Morning Brew Daily - TikTok Gets Banned Again & What Are the Best Airports in America?
Episode Date: November 16, 2023Episode 193: Neal and Toby discuss Starbucks workers striking on Red Cup Day and why the UAW deal with GM may be in peril. Plus, Nepal bans TikTok and Warner Bros. may be in trouble with the FTC thank...s to Wile E. Coyote. Neal shares his favorite numbers and what are the best airports in America? Finally, how John Oliver influenced the best bird in New Zealand. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow Checkout Morning Brew Learning Here: https://learning.morningbrew.com/allaccess Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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I'm Neil Fryman.
And I'm Toby Howell.
On today's pod, Warner Brothers decision to scrap its wily coyote movie blew up in its face.
How ironic.
Then the Wall Street General released a list of the best and worst airports in the U.S.
And oh boy, Neil and I have some thoughts on it.
It's Thursday, November 16th.
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Neil, some quick housekeeping to start the show today.
I'm going to be out tomorrow, which means the return of our wonderful substitute host, Kyle.
The show will still be incredible, though. You got Neil here. You'll have Kyle, but there will probably be a few less dad jokes.
Also, you all have certainly come through with sending us questions for our special Black Friday episode that we have planned.
So keep that up. Neil, any favorite stand out to you so far?
Well, there was this one guy who asked us for relationship advice. And I just, you know, Toby and I like to talk about business news.
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about relationships and give advice in that domain,
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Yeah, our email address is Morningbrewdaily
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Also today is Red Cup Day at Starbucks, the company's biggest sales day of the year.
But when you go to get your holiday reusable cup, you might find that your local Starbucks is closed.
And that's because the Starbucks union is staging its biggest walkout yet.
Thousands of employees across hundreds of Starbucks locations in the U.S.
will go on strike today to protest pay, scheduling, and other issues they've had gripes with for a while.
Remember, Starbucks employees kicked off this recent wave of labor organizing when they began to unionize at some stores in 2021.
The union and the company have been in a nasty fight since, and it appears that a resolution appears far off.
But to take an even broader look at things, this Starbucks walkout shows that hot strike summer is still going strong, even as the weather turns colder.
It seems that much of the historic labor unrest of 2023 had settled down after Hollywood employees, automotive workers, and others agreed to new contracts with their bosses recently.
But no, it's clear that labor organizing will still be a major theme of the business world going into 2024.
Yeah, we're entering cozy strike fall, I guess, sweater strike fall, whatever you want to call.
But this decision to strike on Red Cup Day is interesting on a lot of levels because it is a massive sales day for Starbucks.
Last year, Starbucks actually had its best single sales day ever, even though employees did stage a walkout.
So I do think both of them are almost okay with it because the employees walking out get a lot of publicity because it's such a big day.
But then Starbucks is saying we'll still probably do okay on this massive massive sales day for us.
So you're getting kind of PR on both sides of the equation here.
And, I mean, we're talking about it.
They're calling it the Red Cup Rebellion kind of rhymes well.
A lot of good alliteration going on.
But yes, just to go back to this Starbucks strike, I mean, there's been this wave of unionization that happened 2021, started at Buffalo stores.
And now 350 of Starbucks's about 9,000 corporate-owned U.S. stores are unionized.
That wave had a lot of momentum.
It sparked a lot of unionization.
efforts at a bunch of other retailers. But the wave has kind of trickled down at Starbucks. There's
been a change in leadership there. Howard Schultz gave way to another CEO. But this has been very
contentious, and labor authorities have found Starbucks in violation of a lot of union-busting efforts.
So this seems like it's going to continue into next year. Starbucks baristas are not happy with the
way things have been going, and they're in a very contentious rhetorical fight with management.
Yeah, and then so you mentioned in your intro that also there's some rocky times over at the automotive industry because things are looking, especially rocky over at GM.
The vote by union members on whether to accept the tentative labor contract that led the UAW to declare an end to its strike was actually too close to call yesterday.
Remember, this was hailed as this big win, especially by Sean Fane, that these historic gains in wage growth and prompted other non-unionized carmen.
to hike wages as well.
But then some veterans, actually, when it came down to it,
felt like they weren't getting big enough raises
in that most of the new gains were going to newer automotive workers.
So all of a sudden, this is looking a little dicey.
It still is probably expected to pass.
But, again, we declared an end to the strike,
but it's getting a little dicier than they would expect.
Yeah, and then you go to pharmacy chains,
and pharmacy workers at CVS, Walgreens,
and, well, RiteA is now bankrupt,
But things are not going well over there.
In the past few weeks, staff there have done this thing they called Pharmageddon.
I guess you need cuts.
Organizers are really good at this branding stuff.
But they've also worked out to protest scheduling issues and being overworked.
So in that industry, there's been a lot of tumultuous times going on because they're all closing stores.
And there's a lot of areas in the U.S. that don't have local CVS. or Walgreens anymore because these chains have closed down.
workers feel like they're overworked, and they've also started to protest and walk out.
That's been going on this entire summer.
There also does not appear to be a resolution in that industry.
My favorite union battle going on right now is happening at REI, actually, who has eight unionized
stores, but the unionized workers have been claiming the company has been dragging its feet in
negotiation.
And then basically they said that REI came back to him and say it's throwing off the co-op's
vibe by unionizing, essentially.
So everyone knows the most important thing when it comes.
unionization is the vibes, which is just a hilarious thing.
And what's interesting about REI is it gives off this very progressive vibe.
They're a co-op.
They give a lot of money to nonprofits.
And employees are saying, wait, you're this progressive company, but you're not recognizing
our union.
Something is not squaring with that.
So these labor battles are going to continue into next year for sure.
We can't say they're heating up because it's going into fall now.
They're cooling down, I guess.
All right, Neil, TikTok has finally been banned in Nepal.
The decision was made to put the...
kibosh on everyone's favorite pre-bedtime time wasteser because according to the government,
it was disrupting social structures in the country. What does that mean exactly? Well, Nepal has
instituted strict rules outlining what is considered forbidding content, which includes hate speech,
the promotion of sexual exploitation and drugs, fake news and terrorism-related messages,
all of which they saw proliferating on TikTok. Now, Nepal is not the first nation to take aim at
TikTok. India and Afghanistan both outright banned it years ago.
while the U.S., Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand have all placed restrictions on its use on government devices.
But, Neil, another ban, albeit in a small market with only 2 million or so total users, opens up this can of worms again.
Is TikTok a danger to society, or is Nepal musling its citizens by stripping away a platform for free expression?
Right. You have a lot of free speech groups saying this is an attack on democratic norms because there were a lot of journalists and anti-government people who,
use TikTok to express their speech and they're saying that this is the government cracking down on their
You know they don't have the first amendment there but their right to to free speech one of one of the critics of this band said if you have a boil on your neck you don't chop off your neck your neck
You go after the root cause which is these particular bad actors on the platform you don't completely wipe out the entire platform
That said TikTok is not gonna take any real hit from this it's 2.2 million users in the country and they have over a billion monthly users are
around the world. So this is just kind of a sign that there is growing hostility to TikTok,
not just in the U.S., but around the world, especially in Asian countries. I mean,
India is the most populous country on earth, and it doesn't have TikTok. Yeah, they,
they axed that a while ago back in 2021. Calls for banning TikTok in the U.S. have kind of slowed
a little bit into, in the post-Summer months, but they're kind of ramping back up as the
Israel Hamas War, it starts to proliferate in content around that, starts to proliferate on
the platform.
It's also especially timely because more Americans are getting their news on TikTok, which is basically
the opposite of the trend we've seen on most other social media sites.
Currently, 43% of TikTok users say that they sometimes get their news from the site.
Still, there's less likely than people getting news from Twitter or X, so it's not up there
with the top top news sites, but it is interesting to see that it's the only news site trend.
upwards in terms of what people are getting their news from.
So, again, Nepal is maybe not the biggest market,
but the reason why we're talking about it
because it is emblematic of a larger theme here.
Yeah, I mean, the number 43% is big,
but when you look at the context of two years ago,
that number was just 23% of people getting their news on TikTok.
And TikTok used to be known as this music app,
this dancing app, and now it is being used
as people's definitive news source is a little scary.
And I would say that the criticism of TikTok or the reason to ban it has moved from beyond,
it was, you know, your data, Americans' data would be compromised by the Chinese government
to instead an argument that China is using it as a propaganda tool because of how many people get their news on TikTok.
We have these big geopolitical conflicts going on like the Israel-Hamas war, war in Ukraine,
and what China wants is to destabilize the West.
and that is potentially what it's doing.
No one can prove that it's pushing its own propaganda
or it's tweaking its algorithms to show content
that would be destabilizing towards the West
or anything like that.
But that is the concern.
And I think the conversation around TikTok
will move from, hey, it's hoovering up Americans' personal data
to this is a propaganda tool by the Chinese government
to influence public opinion in the United States
against their own government.
It is interesting to juxtapose it
with the meeting going on in San Francisco right now where Biden and President G are shaking hands
and apparently making nice with each other with this global maybe destabilizing agent
working in the background. So interesting juxtaposition. Toby, why does Warner Brothers
keep shutting down movies after they've been made? Last week, the studio pulled the plug on
its upcoming Wiley Coyote movie, Coyote v. Acme, even though it had finished shooting a year ago
and was ready to hit the big screen. The decision sparked an uproar on social media.
and became the talk of Hollywood.
Because this is not the first time Warner Brothers has shut down a movie once it had already been finished.
It's actually the third time.
It recently scrapped both Batgirl and an animated Scooby-Doo movie,
even though those had been nearly wrapped up.
Following intense backlash, Warner Brothers reversed course this week and said it would shop
around Coyote v. Acme to other studios and streamers, so it may be revived after all.
But the question still stands.
Why dump a movie that people were excited about and had already been made?
Help us understand this.
I'll tell you why, Neil, and it comes down to tax breaks.
Warner Bros. gets a $30 million tax write off by not releasing this movie.
It also gets to save on the marketing distribution costs.
So this is a classic money over art debate.
And I hate this, honestly.
I think why the outrage is so strong specifically with this movie is that it was, by all accounts, very good.
It tested multiple times with the audience in the 90s in terms of audience enjoyments and pre-screening.
And then other films that came in that high were,
Argo, which won best picture. So it's up there with a very, very good movie. And no offense to the
Scoob movie or Batgirl, this is a legitimately good film. So it does feel like you are
literally sacrificing art for the sake of just $30 million of tax breaks. Well, it's $30 million.
And these companies aren't exactly doing so hot right now with the push to streaming. So I can
understand it from an accounting perspective, but obviously I think it was a bad strategy in
the first place. But I'm going to go in a direction that people may not be expecting. Antitransmit
trust. So there was a representative from Texas who's been hammering Warner Brothers
discovery for a long time that wants the FDC to look into its strategy of squashing
these films because this has been a pattern and review it under anti-competitive practices
because it's saying that this is, or this guy Castro from Texas, is saying that what Warner
Brothers is doing is like burning down a building for the insurance money and it's doing this
catch-and-kill method, which is a violation of anti-competitive practices. So we'll see whether
this investigation materializes or anything, but it, you know, just squashing a Wiley
coyote movie has drawn the attention of lawmakers.
That's a heck of a headline right there.
I think it's so short-sighted, though, because all you're doing as Warner Bros is deterring
future filmmakers from working with you, because if there's always that specter of maybe
we'll just cabosh, put the kibosh on this movie, then why would you ever want to work
with this studio?
So he got away with it with Backgirl, because, again, that movie was, by all accounts,
a complete mess.
But when you start axing actually good movies, that's when I think you start to kind of soil your name in the industry.
All right, Neil, before I go all Wiley Coyote on David's Last Love, let's take a quick break.
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Welcome back to Neal's numbers, our Thursday segment where I share three stats from
the week's news that will take your breath away.
And that is all too relevant to my first number, which is about how long people live in
the U.S.
A new study showed that men's life expectancy is.
nearly six years shorter than women, the widest gap in almost 30 years. In 2021, women were
expected to live 79.3 years compared to just 73.5 years for men. Now, women around the globe
outlive men due to biological factors, so that there's a gap at all isn't surprising. But
the size of this gap in the United States is alarming public health experts because it's driven
not by biological factors, but things that could be prevented with more intervention like
drug overdoses, homicides, and suicides.
COVID also killed a lot more men than women.
Toby, this is a pretty sobering stat that brings me back to what you mentioned earlier
this week about single women buying homes at a much higher rate than single men.
A lot of those single women buying homes are widows because husbands are living significantly
shorter lives than their wives.
Yeah, this is one number you definitely do not want to see it get bigger in any sense because
yeah, having life expectancy go down is just in the age of modern medicine, in
in America of all places.
Like that is something that is truly kind of sobering for a lot of people.
So definitely things have to change.
Obviously, COVID played a huge role in this, but not a number you want to see expand.
No, there's a lot of countries out there that have a life expectancy of over 80 years old,
Japan, Korea, Portugal, the UK.
And also the life expectancy in the United States between men and women is lower than that
of Turkey and China.
It is, like you said, it is very alarming for this number to be going down in the year
23. We need to watch that Blue Zone documentary again that shows you how to live longer,
live a better lifestyle. It all came down to gardening. I did watch it actually. You just got to go
out and garden. That's a secret right there. Toby solved this. Toby solve this. Okay, my second number
is about how AI could revolutionize weather forecasting. A new computer model built by Google and
powered by artificial intelligence, just wipe the floor with the best forecasting tool we have around.
The model named Graphcast took less than a minute to make a 10-day forecast compared to the traditional model
that took an hour and required a much bigger computer to do it.
Then, Graphcast proceeded to outperform that traditional model
across 90% of metrics such as temperature, pressure, wind speed, and humidity.
Why does this matter?
Well, the way we do forecasting now is very expensive, very energy intensive
because you have to crunch data from buoys, satellites, and weather stations
to create a model, but machine learning programs like Googles could drastically improve the
accuracy and efficiency of forecasting just by using historical data to predict the future.
So just imagine looking at a 10-day forecast that you actually have confidence in.
This seems so tailor-made.
Weather forecasting seems so tailor-made for AI because there's so many big data sets,
so many hidden patterns within that data.
And there's a lot on the line if there is any sort of error as well.
So you definitely want these models to perform well.
I mean, we just saw that unprecedented misforecast of the hurricane that hit Acapulco, Mexico.
So this is more relevant than ever.
So this is a great use case for AI.
I love it.
For my final number, let's head to the world of soup because it's soup season after all
and nothing embodies Americans' obsession with mass-produced sludge in the colder months,
like Campbell's Cream of Mushroom Soup.
An article from Salon reported that 50% of cream of mushroom sales come between November and January of each year,
primarily thanks to the Thanksgiving staple, green bean casserole.
This dish has a fascinating history.
Campbell's introduced its condensed cream of mushroom soup in 1934 as its first.
first product that could be used both as a soup and a sauce. In 1955, an employee working in its
home economics department was tasked with creating a recipe that would appear in a feature for
the Associated Press, and she decided on a green bean bake that requires one can of
cream of mushroom soup. That recipe was ultimately printed on the side of cream of mushroom soup
cans. The name was tweaked from green bean bake to what we all know, green bean cassero,
and it took off in popularity. Now, 20,000 American families,
will make green bean casserole this holiday season, according to Campbell's.
I'm one of them, Neil, actually.
I've eaten this pretty much every year of my life on Thanksgiving or ever since my younger
brother could see over the counter because this is what he's tagged with every year.
People are running through the kitchen.
I'm making the turkey and mashed potatoes.
My brother's just dropping the cream of mushroom soup in there.
It truly is just one of those nostalgic, it makes you think about home.
So it's been a great branding exercise for that.
It really has.
And there's been this, maybe people have looked down.
on this processed soup in this age of organic and, you know, very natural foods that we should all be eating.
But I love this from this one particular food historian Lucy Long, who wrote that while these, like, mass-produced commercial foods may seem like the antithesis of home-cooked folk foods,
they have frequently been incorporated into family and community tradition.
Green Bean Casserol illustrates how such a product can become a meaningful tradition that expresses both regional culture and individual creativity.
So she's arguing that we should really celebrate green bean casserole and cream of mushroom as just a part of, you know, American regional cuisine, even though it may seem to us as very industrialized and part of our mass production capitalist culture.
I'm all in on it.
It feels like it.
No.
That's a big difference.
You like the idea of it more than eating itself.
My brother makes it with love, so I like it.
All right, everyone.
I have in front of me a list of the best and worst airports in the U.S.
as ranked by the Wall Street Journal.
And, well, I'm just going to read it out, read out the top 10 to you.
Number one, Phoenix, two Minneapolis, three Los Angeles, four Atlanta, five Detroit,
and then six through 10 is San Francisco, Houston, Seattle, Las Vegas, Boston.
Now, before you roast that list, which we will, believe me, at least hear the methodology
first.
The journal came up with 30 different factors and divided them into two categories.
The first group measures reliability, and the second group measures, very.
value and convenience. Each accounted for half of the airport's overall score, but how reliable
flights were carried the most weight overall. In Sky Harbor, as the Phoenix airport is known as,
had among the fewest flight cancellations of any large airport, much shorter delays than most,
and far shorter time spent waiting on the tarmac to take off or gate. So that's how it
made it to the top. But Neil, I'm going to need some Phoenix listeners, and in fact, listeners from
any of those cities to write in and give their thoughts on that list. What did you think about it?
I don't remember the last time I've been to Sky Harbor, but I remember having a pleasant experience.
One thing that helps with a lot of the top 10 list that you just chose is weather.
I mean, here in the northeast, so many flights are delayed because in the winter you have snow
and in the summer you have these thunderstorms that can wreak havoc on flight schedules.
The one thing I noticed about Sky Harbor that I think is kind of an underrated part of an airport
is the time it takes from the taxi, from the gate, to,
you actually taking off. At LaGuardia, I've been in lines of 30 to 35 planes. You're at the other end
of the runway and you see all these dozens of planes waiting to take off. And at Sky Harbor,
it takes under 15 minutes on average to leave from the gate to, you know, getting in the air.
While at JFK, that's 26 minutes. I think that is an underrated part of an airport because you don't
want to be waiting on the ground for so long. It's just a tease. Also, another reason Phoenix rakes so high is that
nearly 75% of the airport's passengers are local.
So it contrasts that with an airport like Charlotte, for instance,
where 70% of the passengers are connecting.
It just makes for a much more chaotic, hectic environment
if everyone is trying to rush to get a connecting flight.
It also completed a bunch of upgrades for the Super Bowl.
So it got a facelift right before this list came out.
I thought we were going to mention the golf simulator.
What's the golf simulator?
They're getting a golf simulator.
Oh, thank goodness.
I'm going to Phoenix.
I've actually never been as well.
we're talking about it, but maybe this is a sign to go there. Just real quick, they also rank the top
five mid-sized airports. San Jose is one, San Antonio's two, Sacramento, three, Indianapolis is four and
in Houston five. Any of those stand out to you? I haven't been to any of these airports. It's making
me realize I got to get out more. You got to get out. Go to San Jose. You've got to visit Silicon Valley.
We talk about it all the time. Got to go actually toward the place. It's not that exciting. It's like
suburban paradise. But while we're on the subject of airports and airports,
planes and aviation. I'm sure a lot of people listening to this are thinking about buying trips
to the, you know, for vacation over Christmas break. There are a lot of good deals to be had right
now because aircraft aviation industry increased their capacity. They have 260 million seats to fill
this quarter. So they're dropping fares like crazy Southwest is offering deals of $29 one way. So you're not
too late if you want to go to San Jose or Phoenix or anywhere where else we've talked about for the break.
I love when you tell people about the deals.
That's news you can use, Neil.
That's why you listen to this podcast.
All right, let's move on.
I would venture to guess that most of you all listening
haven't heard of the Puteke-Teke-Beard.
But John Oliver certainly has,
and he's responsible for it winning
New Zealand's Bird of the Century Contests.
Now, that might have been the most confusing sentence
I've ever uttered on the show,
but bear with me.
New Zealand hosts a Bird of the Year competition annually
to raise awareness for the country's native birds.
This year was the Centennial Conference
Hence the billing as bird of the century.
And late night host John Oliver caught wind of this.
He discovered a loophole in the rules that allowed anyone from anywhere, not just New Zealand, to cast a vote.
So he decided to hit the campaign trail.
He picked the Puteke-Tecki bird with just this weird puking bird with a colorful bullet, kind of at random,
and started literally erecting billboards around the world asking people to vote for his bird.
Some in New Zealand, other in Paris, Tokyo, London, and Mumbai.
He even flew a banner over a beach in Brazil and appeared in a full-sized bird's costume on Jimmy Fallon,
all in the hopes of securing support for the Puteke Tech A2 win.
Neil, he spent real money on this competition, and he won.
And there was opposition.
The fans of another type of bird bought a billboard and said,
John Oliver, don't disrupt the pecking order, sir.
No, I loved why he picked this particular bird.
One reason was because he said it does this mating.
dance where they both grab a clump of wet grass and chest bump each other before standing
around unsure of what to do next. And Oliver said that he had never related to anything more
in his life. I feel that. So this competition normally attracts just under 60,000 votes, but this
year it attracted 350,000 votes across 195 countries. And with 290,000 of those going to
the Puteke-Tecke-Tecke bird, there actually has been a ton of controversy in this competition, though.
been past cases of voter fraud. During the 2018 contest, 300 fraudulent votes were cast in Australia
for the shag. And then the next year, there was this onslaught of Russian voters that actually
sparked rumors of election meddling. But it turns out that those votes ended up being legitimate.
So who knew that there was such a rich history of maybe election meddling and that John Oliver
jumped in and blew this thing out of the water? And the organizers love this because it raised
attention to their cause. And they say that 80% of the native birds of New Zealand, which they don't
have, you know, bigger mammals. Their birds are the things that they love. They love their
We know that they're called the Kiwis, obviously. I don't know how the Kiwi doesn't win every
year. That's what it was making, it got second this year, so it kind of got run over by John
Allover's. So they love the publicity, but I also just want to call out, this is not the first time
a late night show host has kind of put their name in the ring for something super
random. This is a, this is a trend that people have been doing. I don't remember, I don't know
if you remember back in 2006, Stephen Colbert, there was a competition to name a
bridge in Hungary.
and Chuck Norris was winning
because that was the peak of Chuck Norris jokes.
So Colbert decided to put his name in the ring
and wanted to get the bridge named after himself.
And he did win, but then the ambassador to Hungary
came on his show and said that for them actually
to make the bridge named after Colbert,
he would have to be fluent in the Hungarian
and would have to be deceased.
So they didn't name it after him after all.
But this is a tactic for...
So what should we do?
That's what I'm wondering.
I want to name something,
or at least run a competition
or a campaign.
Yeah, we'll have to think about that.
Yeah, write us in.
All right.
That is our show for this Thursday.
We're going to miss you tomorrow, Toby.
Have a great time wherever you're going.
Everyone else will see you back here tomorrow morning.
Remember to send us your questions for the Black Friday episode to MorningBrewdaily at
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of Eric Church on July 19th.
Tickets on sale now at Yamavatheater.com.
Only at Yamava Resort and Casino,
celebrating its 40th anniversary.
UN must be 21 to enter.
