Murder, Mystery & Makeup - Fan Favorite & **UPDATE** Love, Lies, & Lust: What Really Happened With Jodi Arias?

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:27 With over 30,000 five-star reviews on Apple Podcasts, if you've never checked out True Crime Obsessed, now's the time to give us a try. Find True Crime Obsessed wherever you get your podcasts. Hi friends, how are you today? I hope you're having a wonderful day so far. My name is Bailey Sarian and welcome to the Murder, Mystery and Makeup Podcast. Listen, today I want to re-share a story that's one of my most popular videos on YouTube. You can call it a fan favorite. And give you a little update. Because I recently looked
Starting point is 00:01:02 into what this killer has been up to lately and wow. Wow. I just feel like we we have a lot to talk about, okay? I also noticed her 45th birthday is coming up on July 9th so happy birthday I guess. Well have you figured out who I'm going to talk about today? Probably from the title, if not. Today we're talking about Miss Jodie Arias. Yeah, I came across some updates on what she's been up to in prison and I had some thoughts. So stick around for the end of the episode to hear what Jodie has been up to. But for now, let's revisit the story of this truly unhinged woman and what drove her to murder her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander. Now, let's get into today's story. Hi friends, how are you today? My name is Bailey Sarian and today is Monday,
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Starting point is 00:02:16 cause I'm here for you on Mondays. This one's I always requested and that is Jodi Arias. You know her? Well, let me tell you, she's crazy. She's, look, she's different. Great, glad we had this talk. So first we're going to start with Travis Alexander. So Travis was born July 29th, 1977.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And growing up, Travis said that his life was pretty rough. He was one of eight siblings and his parents were both meth addicts. They would leave the kids to pretty much fend for themselves most of the times. Travis remembered his mom sleeping for like four days straight and the kids tried their best to make dinner
Starting point is 00:02:57 with what was left in the kitchen, which was like nothing more than canned soup or spoiled food. So as Travis got older, he knew like his only option to saving himself was to get out of there. So he pretty much moved away to Riverside, California to live with his grandmother.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Now his grandmother, she took him in, she was Mormon and she introduced him to her faith. Now Travis took his new faith very seriously. He went to church consistently and was Travis took his new faith very seriously. He went to church consistently and was dedicated to his new religion. Even as he grew up and gained his own independence, he was still very loyal. So when Travis graduated high school, that's when he went on a mission with his church, which is kind of like a rite of passage. After that, he then moved to Mesa, Arizona because it was known for its Mormon faith-based community to Mesa, Arizona, because it was known for its Mormon faith-based community.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Mesa, Arizona, it's located pretty close to Phoenix, and is a good size, it's a good size city, with like a warm desert climate. Not even warm, it's hot as balls out there, don't even lie. I don't know how you guys do it out there, you guys are wild. Which honestly that was new for me, I didn't know Mesa, Arizona was like Mormon based. So reading that I was like oh good to know. I don't know why but I didn't know that. Fun fact. So then Travis got a job with Prepaid Legal Services which was a multi-level
Starting point is 00:04:16 marketing company now known as Legal Shield. Multi-level marketing or direct selling is massive in the Mormon community. They're often called, you know, pyramid schemes, and not really known for being the most legit way to do business. So, Travis is working there, and he also found a passion as a motivational speaker. So, sharing his story and his struggles with others who have maybe gone through the same thing as him, his rough upbringing. He beat the odds, he broke the cycle, got away from drugs as a kid.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Like that's great. And he just wanted to share that story. I support that. He was also writing a book about everything that he had been through called Raising Me, and also worked on a blog where he was sharing his story, his thoughts, all that stuff. Now at the age of 29, Travis was pretty successful. He was good looking, he had a lot of friends, he loved making people laugh and was known to be quite a flirt.
Starting point is 00:05:13 With his work success, he was able to buy his own home and he also rented out two rooms to his friends and also had a little black pug named Napoleon. Yeah, I mean things just seem to be going really well for Travis. Now we are going to talk a little bit about Jodie, who is the other player in this story, the killer, let's just say it because she is. Now Jodie, Jodie, Jodie, Jodie.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So Jodie was born July 9th, 1980 in Salinas, California. Now she was the oldest of three So Jodi was born July 9th, 1980 in Salinas, California. Now she was the oldest of three, and there's really not much said about her upbringing. It seemed somewhat normal. In middle school, her parents discovered that she was attempting to grow weed in some Tupperware, and she was storing it on their roof. Her parents come across this, they find it, right?
Starting point is 00:06:03 So her parents then are like, okay, we're gonna search your room because we need to see what else you got. You got the devil's lettuce? Not today. They go through her room and Jodie said that they were invading her personal space and she just felt like the trust between them was completely broken.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Jodie would write in her diary a lot saying how her parents completely violated her space. But it's like, babe, you're in middle school, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I her diary how she felt like really out of place, like she didn't belong there. She seemed very upset and very alone. Like she really didn't have anyone to talk to. So her parents described her as being intelligent, but strange.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Her father would say that they thought perhaps maybe Jodie was bipolar because she would be fine one second and then the next second, she would fly into a fit of rage. Her dad said that Jodie was very verbally abusive towards her mother, but was the kind of person that never took responsibility for her actions. There seemed to be like some kind of tension going on between Jodie and her parents. She was hard to understand,
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Starting point is 00:08:56 For 30 free days and 25% off your subscription. dipsystories.com slash make up. So in high school, this is when Jodie was introduced to photography and she found just a new love. She enjoyed taking photos and would take them at any chance she could. Now in 2004, she moved down to Palm Desert, California with a boyfriend that she had been seeing at the time. The couple, they had moved into a home together and Jodi was still doing photography, but she also got a job working as a saleswoman
Starting point is 00:09:32 for a place called Legal Shield, the prepaid legal service that Travis also worked for. So September, 2006, Legal Shield was holding a work conference in Las Vegas where they had a bunch of their employees come out, travel expenses covered. Great. Go to Vegas, all paid? You don't gotta tell me twice.
Starting point is 00:09:54 So at this like convention, they would meet different team members, they would attend different speaking events, get motivated to sell, sell, sell, you know. So on one of the nights, there were a group of people meeting up to have dinner at the Rainforest Cafe, bougie. A group of people, including Jodi were there. They were like standing outside,
Starting point is 00:10:15 kind of waiting to be called in to be seated. So then Travis walks up to the group and introduces himself and he goes up to Jodi and he's like, hi, I'm Travis. And everyone who was around them said that there was an instant connection between Jodi and Travis. They just really hit it off. So the whole dinner, the two, they talked
Starting point is 00:10:34 and they got to know one another. Travis seemed smitten. Friends and coworkers were excited because Travis had been single for a long time and everybody was just really rooting for him to find the one, the one that he was going to marry. So when they saw Jodie and Travis chatting it up, everyone was like, oh yeah, like she's the one,
Starting point is 00:10:55 this is so great, I'm so happy for him. Anyway, so that night, Jodie and Travis, they stayed up until four in the morning, just talking about life, religion and everything. So the next day, Travis was telling coworkers and friends that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her and that Jodie was just perfect. The only downside was that she wasn't Mormon.
Starting point is 00:11:16 He couldn't be with her unless she became Mormon. So once the work convention was over, Jodie and Travis, they exchanged phone numbers, but they both had to go their separate ways. Travis went back to Mesa, Arizona, and Jodie went back to Palm Desert. They did keep in contact, pretty much forming a long distance relationship.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So remember how I said that Jodie was in a relationship? Yeah, she was. So she goes back home and her boyfriend, she ends up breaking it off with the guy. She knew it wasn't going anywhere. She wanted to get married. She wanted to have a family one day. And her current boyfriend was already married once before. And he did not want to do that again.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So they broke up. Jodie and Travis still kept in touch. And Travis thought that maybe he can introduce the Mormon religion to Jodie. So he gave her the Book of Mormon and he invited her to church a couple of times. He had Mormon missionaries go out to her home, knock on the door. They're like, hey, do you know where you're going
Starting point is 00:12:16 when you die or whatever they say nowadays. Travis said that anytime he spoke to Jodi, he would always try and sneak in some Bible quotes, just trying to give her a good impression of the Mormon religion. He later gave her a CTR ring, which is like a purity ring. He gave her some Jesus paintings and their church president's biography. Some sources had said that Jodi, she already had been taking an interest in Mormonism before meeting Travis, probably because of her job, it was like all Mormons working there,
Starting point is 00:12:49 but it seems like their relationship is what really got her more involved with the church. So only two months later, on November 26th, 2006, Jodi was baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Travis was the one who baptized her, so she was in. In February of 2007, Jodi and Travis made it official. Still, they were living in different states, but they would call and email often.
Starting point is 00:13:16 The two of them, they would take a lot of vacations together because they didn't live in the same place, so it just became easier to like meet at a location, spend some time together. Jodi would bring her camera and they would take a bunch of pictures. They bought this book that was like a thousand places you have to see before you die.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And they were going through that list and just traveling together. So over the course of their relationship, they exchanged 82,000 emails and they sexted often. The couple had some hot steamy sex and Travis would refer to Jodie as his kryptonite. Now in the Mormon faith, having sexual relations is a big nay-nay.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I mean a big one though. But Travis and Jodie were giving into temptation and getting all sorts of freaky. Occasionally, Jodie would bring her camera into the bedroom with the two of them, you know, for some memories. Travis said at the time, it felt like he had a big weight on his shoulders, because he knew like what he was doing, and he knew he shouldn't have been having sex,
Starting point is 00:14:20 but he would tell people like he was almost addicted to her. So Jodie, again, she was still technically living in Palm Desert, but she would go out to Travis' house in Mesa, Arizona, and she would stay like the night at his house every so often. And friends and roommates, they were there, and they said that they just got a really weird feeling about Jodie. Not even a weird feeling, they just like didn't like her, because they noticed how possessive she was over him.
Starting point is 00:14:46 So Travis's friends said that Jodie would literally follow him everywhere. Rarely was he seen alone if she was around. Travis would get up and go to the bathroom. Well, guess what? Jodie was going to the bathroom too. She would follow him and then she would wait outside the door, she would wait for him.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Travis would be on his phone and Jodie would be like, who are you talking to? What are you talking about? She would check his phone. She would check his emails. She would hack his MySpace. MySpace was a thing at this point. She would hack his MySpace, read his messages.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It was a little much. Travis's friends, they sat him down and they were like, hey, we're worried about you, bud. Jodie is very possessive of you and we're just worried that she's gonna hurt you. So they're telling him all this. And while speaking, they're in Travis's bedroom. Door was shut and then another friend who was inside
Starting point is 00:15:34 was like, I bet you she's outside of the door right now. And they say this like super low, like, go check. Travis sneaks up to the door and he opens it and ta-da! Jodie was indeed standing right outside the door listening in. And I think this was kind of like this eye-opening moment for Travis. He was like, oh my god, like yeah, this is a problem. So one of Travis's friends pulls Jodie aside and just tells the truth. We think, you know, you're very possessive over him
Starting point is 00:16:00 and we just don't think you two are a good fit. But all Jodie cared about was what Travis thought, and if he still just wanted to be with her. It seemed, this is a personal opinion, but based off like the interviews and stuff I watched, it seemed like Jodie didn't really care what the friends said. It doesn't matter what you guys think, what does Travis think?
Starting point is 00:16:17 So Jodie went back home and Travis told Jodie, look, it's over, okay? It's just better if we're apart, please don't contact me any longer. This did not stop Jodie, okay? It's just better if we're apart, please don't contact me any longer. This did not stop Jodie, okay? Sure did not. At some point, look, real talk, at some point Jodie and Travis do break up over the phone.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Jodie catches Travis kind of flirting with somebody else, and she breaks up with him, and then he goes crawling back to her begging for her to take him back, and he even proposes to her and she turns him down, and then they get back together, and then I think this happened. I couldn't exactly figure out where that took place. Was it after this or was it before this?
Starting point is 00:16:54 So they break up. At least Travis thinks they broke up. That didn't stop Jodie though. She would write emails to Travis, telling him that she had a stalker, and that someone was following her and watching her through the windows. She said that this stalker was telling her
Starting point is 00:17:08 that she should be with him, the stalker, and not with Travis because he was in a different state and he didn't deserve her. So Jodie's telling Travis this in an email that she's scared and whatnot. So Travis is a little worried about Jodie and he tells his friends like, oh my gosh, I'm scared for her, she needs help.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And then the friends kind of kick some common sense into him, they're like, no. Jodie obviously wrote this email herself, because she wants you to invite her to live with you. Now this was never proven, but based off of Jodie and what she does, you know, I believe this is probably true. She just wanted attention from Travis. She was trying to get him to invite her over to his house,
Starting point is 00:17:51 anything she could. So Jodie couldn't afford her house anymore and she had to sell it. Now she said that Travis begged her to move to Mesa to be closer to him, but the reality was, she moved about 10 minutes away from Travis and didn't even tell him. No, she moved 10 minutes away from him, didn't tell him.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Jodi, no. Jodi didn't talk to her family much. She didn't really have much of a relationship with them, but she would talk to them every so often, and she told them that she was moving to Mesa because she was planning on marrying Travis and that's really all they knew. They never met Travis, never saw him, rarely saw her
Starting point is 00:18:35 and they were just kinda like, okay, she's getting married apparently. So after moving to Mesa, she went to go surprise him, let Travis know that she moved in, you know, just down the street. So she goes over there to his house and she discovers that he's with another girl on what seemed to be a date.
Starting point is 00:18:55 She was upset. You're probably wondering how she saw like another girl there and stuff. Well, you best believe Jodie's looking through the windows like just a full blown creep. She would keep showing up to his house unannounced. She knew the lock codes beep-bop boop-boop-boop get right in okay. She would even break into his house through his doggy door. Yeah she was not welcome and this is what she was showing. So Travis, well Travis said that you know he would stand his
Starting point is 00:19:23 ground be very upset with Jodie telling her to leave or to get out. And then other times he would give in and he would have her stay over for some sexual lovin'. She knew that he would give in to her, so she kept doing it. Nobody was holding her accountable for her stupid dumb actions that were also illegal. Jodie told Travis that she didn't have a job yet, and she had no money.
Starting point is 00:19:46 So Travis gave her a job cleaning his house and gave her a sexy maid outfit to wear while she's doing it. Travis was trying to move on. He found this girl through his church named Lisa that he was trying to date, or at least showing a lot of interest in. Jodie was keeping tabs on this new relationship by hacking Travis's social accounts and emails,
Starting point is 00:20:09 seeing the messages that the two were sharing. Jodie didn't like this, somebody coming up trying to take her man. So she decided, I'm gonna start harassing Lisa, and she would do so by knocking on her house windows and doors late at night, scaring her obviously. That was Jodie. So one night, Lisa and Travis,
Starting point is 00:20:27 they're at Travis's house watching a movie together, when Travis's dog starts barking, letting them know somebody's outside. So Travis, he gets up and he's like, I'm gonna go investigate. So he does so he's looking around outside, who pops up? It's Jodie.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Jodie was outside the house, she was peeking through some windows. She tells him that she was there watching them sleep. He tells her to leave and she does. But the next morning, Lisa got an email from someone unknown calling her a shameful whore and chastised her in the name of God. Again, there was no proof that it was Jodie, but if you use common sense and put two and two together, maybe you can connect the dots here. If Travis went to Lisa's house, he would come outside and find that his tires had been slashed.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Jodie would write in her journal how unhappy she was and she just wanted to die. Lisa, poor Lisa who got involved in the middle of this, she had to tap out. She was like, this is too much, I can't handle it. Somehow Travis convinces Jodie to move back to California, to live with her grandparents and figure herself out, you know, maybe down the line, we could be friends, we can connect,
Starting point is 00:21:35 just trying to get her to just go. That's what Jodie did, she moved back to California to live with her grandparents. So once Jodie left, Travis was relieved and just happy that Jodi was gone. Jodi was working as a waitress at a restaurant that her parents had owned, which allowed her time to focus on her true passion, which was photography.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And she also tried to meet potential partners. She would end up meeting a man named Ryan. Now, Ryan also worked for the company Legal Shield as well. She just thought, you know, that he was extremely good looking. He was also Mormon. He seemed very successful, but he lived in Utah. The two of them though, they would chat and keep in touch through MySpace. I'm pretty sure, not 100% sure there, but I'm pretty sure it was MySpace.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But I do know that they were speaking and they were planning on meeting sometime soon. Travis luckily had moved on and in February of 2008, he met a woman at the LSD singles night. Whoa, LDS. I am so sorry. Sometimes I get the two of them mixed. LDS, Mormon singles night.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They have singles night, how fun. But he met this woman named Mimi. Now she was perfect at everything that he was looking for in a future wife, but she saw Travis as more of just a friend and not really someone that she was interested in dating. Travis though, he was interested. He was interested.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Low and behold, Jodie starts reaching out to Travis again, calling him on his phone, leaving voicemails, talking to him whenever she got the chance. Jodie would call Travis and have phone sex with him. Little did he know that she was recording the conversations between the two. Some people believed that she was doing this for blackmail, but who really knows why she was recording it?
Starting point is 00:23:24 Something happened between Jodie and Travis, and the two got into a very big fight. They were going back and forth via email, in the emails, it was never revealed what the fight was about, but Travis was very upset and very hurt, telling Jodie she was a liar, everything was a lie, and to leave him alone
Starting point is 00:23:43 and never speak to him again, like it was passionate liar. Everything was a lie. And to leave him alone and never speak to him again, like it was passionate hate. He was upset. Again, it does not say what exactly happens in the email and nobody really knows what that fight was about or what caused, you know, the last straw. But Travis was for sure putting his foot down. I had mentioned in the beginning that Travis had a blog.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Now he had posted on there that were pretty targeted at Jodie. It's eerie and it's just sad, but his last entry was on May 18th. It's still up. And it was titled, Why I Want to Marry a Gold Digger. In this blog post, it's just about him adjusting his priorities in life and how he would only be dating to Mary from now on. He described dating like a job interview and said it's like, quote,
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Starting point is 00:27:07 they only took one thing, her grandfather's gun, handgun stolen. So Jodie told her grandparents like, oh my God, someone broke in, stole your gun, but nothing else. Like it just wasn't making sense, but it happened. It's random, but it'll make sense later. On June 2nd, Jodie made plans to drive up to Utah
Starting point is 00:27:26 to visit her new love interest, Ryan. So before going to her trip to see Ryan, she first went to a budget rent-a-car in Reading, California. So Jodie is going there because she wants to rent a car. But mind you, this place was more than an hour away from her home. Premeditated suspesh. So she goes to rent a car and they bring out a red car. And she tells them, no, I don't want a red car.
Starting point is 00:27:50 She felt like it would attract attention. So they gave her a white one instead and off Jodi went. Well, she was supposed to be driving to Utah. Her phone was turned off. She said it died, but then it was turned back on many hours later. Jodie was supposed to get to Utah on June 4th, but she didn't arrive until June 5th. Jodie called and emailed and texted Travis throughout her trip. She even left a voicemail on the night of the murder rambling about making
Starting point is 00:28:22 plans and how she was on her way to Utah and had accidentally driven a hundred miles the wrong way. So when Jodi returned the rental car, the floor mats were missing and she mentioned that there was a Kool-Aid stain in her car. And that got me thinking, I wonder how many times like people who work at rental car places, this is just a side note, how many times they see Kool-Aid stains. During this time, Travis was back in Mesa, Arizona, getting excited because he was going on another work trip,
Starting point is 00:28:52 but this time to Cancun, Mexico. So Travis was working out, trying to get in shape because you know, he's gonna be in a bison and stuff, but he also invited Mimi, the woman that he was interested in. He thought maybe he could take her on this trip to Cancun, just as friends. He could show her around, show her a different side of himself, and hopefully she would fall for him.
Starting point is 00:29:14 That was the goal. But a day before his work trip on June 9th, nobody had heard from Travis. He missed a very important work conference, and many found that very unlike him. He wouldn't miss an important call like that. Mimi was trying to get in touch with Travis because they were supposed to go, they were supposed to be leaving to Cancun the next day, and she hadn't heard a thing.
Starting point is 00:29:35 So a couple of Travis's friends, they're getting worried. Mimi also is like, I haven't heard from him. So they decided to all go over to Travis's house, knock on the door. They don't heard from him. So they decided to all go over to Travis's house, knock on the door. They don't get an answer. Nothing. They know the garage lock code. So they go and they open up the garage
Starting point is 00:29:52 and they get into the house. That's when Travis's roommate comes out. He was listening to like music pretty loud and just didn't hear them at the door. But he asked them, what's going on? Like, why are you guys here? And they're like, have you heard from Travis? And he's thinking, Travis already left for Cancun.
Starting point is 00:30:06 He's been gone. And they say, no, he's not. Like, we're leaving tomorrow. We haven't heard from him. So they all go over to Travis's room. The door is closed and locked. The roommate gets a spare key and opens up Travis's door. So they open up the door
Starting point is 00:30:20 and they get a huge whiff of something stinky. They look down on the ground and they get a huge whiff of something stinky. They look down on the ground and they see this huge what seems to be a blood like stain on the carpet. So then they look around and they see that there is blood everywhere in Travis's room. Travis's roommate goes further into the room and that's when he finds Travis naked and in the fetal position in the stand up shower of his ensuite bathroom. So Mimi, she didn't want to go into the room. She saw the blood stain and that was enough for her. So she stepped outside and she calls the police immediately.
Starting point is 00:30:54 So investigators, they go out to the crime scene, right? And they're asking all the friends, like, who do you think could have done something so awful? All of them were just quick to say, Jodi, Jodi Arias, look into her, stalk her ex-girlfriend, she did it. Inside Travis's room, investigators were looking for DNA, fingerprints, hair, anything that could get to the bottom of this horrible crime.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Now based off of the crime scene, detectives knew that this was a personal attack. They saw that Travis, he must've really fought hard and fought back. And it was just an all around gruesome scene with blood smears down the hallway, on the walls, bathroom covered. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So Travis, he was stabbed a total of 27 times. 27 times. His throat was cut going from ear to ear and he was also shot in the head. It was determined that Travis Alexander was murdered on June 4th, 2008. While Travis's friends all knew that it was Jodie, they didn't technically have proof yet.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So they had to carry on and planned a funeral for Travis with all of his friends and family. And somehow Jodie got word where it was when it was taking place. And this ballsy ass woman went to the funeral. She went to the funeral. That's a special kind of fucked up. Jodie, Jodie no. Someone needs to tell her no once in a while.
Starting point is 00:32:22 So around this time Jodie had called the station herself asking to speak with detectives about the case. So around this time, Jodie had called the station herself asking to speak with detectives about the case. Now she calls them, right? She's like, hey, I just wanna like talk about the case. And then they're like, okay, someone will get in touch with you. So she was a little irritated because her call wasn't being returned. So she calls again. She's like, hello, yeah, I have some information that you might want.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Finally, she gets through and she speaks to somebody. She tells this person, the detective, that she no longer lived there in Mesa, Arizona, and she moved to Northern California, but wanted to be of any assistance she could be. She told the detective the last time they spoke was on Tuesday. She ended up having a 41 minute conversation
Starting point is 00:33:00 with the detective about everything and also just nothing. One thing stood out to the detective was the fact that Jodie was telling him that Travis had been getting fit for his trip to Cancun, so there was just no way that someone like her could overpower him. And most likely it was two people who took him down. This is what she told the detective. So the detective's thinking, that's kind of like a weird comment to make, but okay.
Starting point is 00:33:25 So at the crime scene, there was a bloody handprint left on the wall. The blood was taken in it, in hopes for like a DNA or a fingerprint match. Also while searching around the crime scene, investigators came across a small like spot of blood on the washing machine. So they look at the washing machine like, okay,
Starting point is 00:33:44 and they lift it up, lift up the lid. There was bedsheets, but most of all, there was a camera. A black camera was left in the washing machine. It had gone through the wash cycle with bleach, but the camera was taken in, in hopes to like find some kind of information. The camera's memory card had been erased, and the person who deleted them took five steps
Starting point is 00:34:06 to delete these pictures, just proving that no accidents were made. If you have to take five steps, you know what you are doing. Do you get what I'm saying? That's what they're thinking. Anyways, on June 19th, the memory card from the camera was recovered and the first picture that came up was a naked picture of Jodie at Travis's house.
Starting point is 00:34:29 But get this, get this. It had a timestamp on the photos. Yeah, Jodie, hey babe, timestamp, pay attention, timestamp. On the photos it said June 4th, AKA the night of the murder. Case solved, we got it. Hold on, cause get this, cause it gets worse. So they keep looking through the pictures. The next set of pictures were Travis naked in bed.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Then possibly to kind of get him in a vulnerable position, Jodie seemed to have gotten Travis in the shower and began taking more pictures of him. So a photo was taken at 5.30 PM, Travis in the shower, water coming down, and he's looking directly into the camera like, ooh. And it's believed that this is the last photo of him alive because the following pictures were photos
Starting point is 00:35:21 of what seemed to be the murder. Yeah, the camera kept snapping, catching Travis on the ground, blood coming from his head with someone's leg in the picture. You see what looked like happened, she took a picture of him in the shower and then the next couple shots are like the camera falling, like it maybe got knocked out of her hand,
Starting point is 00:35:41 it ends up on the ground and it's just taking pictures. So you can't technically see Jodie like killing Travis, but the time stamps, like it's all lining up. Let's talk about something spooky. No, not ghosts. Not dating apps. Not true crime. Worse. Subscription fees.
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Starting point is 00:38:14 Download the Rocket Money app today and tell them you heard about them from my show. Okay, bye. It seemed that while Travis was in the shower, Jodie began her attack. He tried to get away when she cut his neck, dragged him back into the bathroom where she shot him in the head
Starting point is 00:38:33 and then put him in the shower and rinsed off his body. She then deleted the pictures, so she thought, you know, and then took all the bedding and the camera and then put them in the washer. Now it's believed that Jodie just simply forgot to grab the camera and she didn't mean to wash it. Something that wasn't recovered from the camera was a sex tape that they had also made.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I don't even know if it really exists or not, but Jodie had asked the investigators later on trying to gauge how much they knew when forming her story. She's like, did you guys find the sex tape? And then when they said no, she was like, okay, they didn't find the camera. Police go out to Jodie's grandparents house where she's living. So when they go out there, it's July 15th and they're there to make an arrest. The police connected the dots that the gun used to shoot Travis
Starting point is 00:39:23 was the same caliber of Jodie's grandfather's gun that was stolen in that random burglary, remember? So while at home, they discover a rental car that Jodie had packed with clothes, two knives, a nine millimeter semi-automatic handgun, she had a bunch of condoms, and she was also sporting her newly dyed brown hair. No one knows where she planned on going exactly with all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I would put money on the new boyfriend's place. So they bring her in for interrogation and when bringing her in, she's handcuffed and Jodie was all smiles and they asked if she had anything to do with it and she kept denying, denying, denying. Eventually though, the detective busts out those photos that were retrieved from the camera, and they ask, or he asks, is this you? And Jodie looks at this photo of herself and says,
Starting point is 00:40:12 well, it looks like me. It's clearly a photo of her. She's butt ass naked. He's showing her this picture. It looks like me. Jodie said that she did indeed go to Utah, and when they checked with Ryan, the guy that she was supposed to meet,odie said that she did indeed go to Utah, and when they checked with Ryan, the guy that she was supposed to meet,
Starting point is 00:40:27 he said that she did come, but she didn't arrive until June 5th, a day later than they had originally planned. He mentioned nothing was out of the ordinary, Jodie was all happy and seemed like she just, she didn't just murder someone, you know? She's just excited to be there. Could you imagine a date comes over,
Starting point is 00:40:46 and you find out that they just literally murdered some... Mm-mm. So when Jodie was being interrogated, she maintained her innocence saying, quote, if I killed Travis, I would beg for the death penalty. I don't know like why she felt that was helping her cause, but she said that, okay? The detective tells Jodie that they found a bloody handprint on the wall. The handprint wasn't Jodie's,
Starting point is 00:41:07 but after testing the DNA, it came back as Travis and Jodie's blood. So her blood was mixed in with Travis' blood. And then there was a handprint on the wall, which was Travis' handprint. So the detective is asking her like, you know, how would this happen then? And Jodie's excuse was that her DNA was already there in the room. That's why. So finally he tells Jodie, look, it's game over.
Starting point is 00:41:31 You are the one in the photos and your DNA is in the bedroom. All signs point to you. Jodie's first question or response to that was to ask if she could clean up before she was booked. She wanted to put on some makeup before taking her booking photo. While waiting in the interrogation room, some of you may remember this, that's when Jodie was doing handstands, she's alone. She's doing handstands in the room, she's singing songs and talking to herself. It's very unusual for someone being booked for murder,
Starting point is 00:42:02 but Jodie said that, you know, she was in the room for hours upon hours. She was bored, she's innocent, she didn't kill anyone. So why can't she do handstands and sing songs? She's like, you guys are being so mean to me. I don't know about you guys, but I've never been in a meeting somewhere serious and thinking to myself, God, I wish I could do a handstand right now.
Starting point is 00:42:23 She's just strange, this one. Jodie ends up getting booked. They don't allow her to put on makeup, I wish I could do a handstand right now. She's just strange, this one. Jodie ends up getting booked. They don't allow her to put on makeup, thank God, because that would just be another thing that she gets, right? No makeup, takes her booking photo, sits in jail. The next day she comes back and she has a brand new story. This time Jodie wanted to tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:42:40 She said that she was at Travis's house when two people, this is according to her, she said two people dressed as ninjas, in all black and ski masks came busting into the door at night. She said that these people were trying to assassinate Travis. She wasn't sure why, but she knew that they were after Travis. Mm-hmm, ninjas. Jodie said she was hit in the head and then passed out. When she woke up, she saw them in ski masks
Starting point is 00:43:06 and heard Travis yelling for her to go get help. The attackers had gone through Jodie's purse, so they knew who she was, her address, her parents' address, etc. She said she fought off one of the ninjas, who was a woman and was able to get away because they were really there to kill Travis and not her. Okay. So she gets away, she said.
Starting point is 00:43:27 So the detective's asking, okay, well, why did you call 911 then? And she said, because my phone was dead. She didn't want to call 911 in general because these ninjas or these, whoever these people were, they knew where she lived and where her family were, and she was afraid that they would kill her. So that was her new story.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Okay? Ninjas. The public became obsessed. I mean, this was a story with lots of sex, a good looking couple, people, oh, murder, sorry. People were heavily, heavily interested in this. When her trial began, there were many people trying to get into the courtroom
Starting point is 00:43:59 and many people just waiting outside until it was over. So when Jodie showed up for trial, she now had her natural hair. She was dressed in all frumpy clothes and she had glasses on. Many thought that this was a plan to come off as innocent. Like she couldn't hurt a fly. And honestly, she looked like that.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Like she looked like a little librarian. No offense librarians. But you know, like the old school librarian with the glasses and like she had like the crunchy bangs. Remember? New librarians are cool. I don't want librarians upset with me. I love the library. old school librarian with the glasses and like she had like the crunchy bangs, remember? New librarians are cool. I don't want librarians upset with me. I love the library.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Many believe that that was all fake. Jodie said, it's not fake. She didn't have access to hair dye anymore. Her eyes went to shit once she got locked up and she couldn't help it that she looked like that. It's so frustrating. Cause if you watch interviews with her, you want to believe her.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And I don't know what that is. It's creepy, because you're like, oh, she has a point. I think it's the fact that she talks so like calm voice and very innocent like, and you just, I don't know what, I don't know. During the court trial, they put together the whole story, what they think happened based off of the evidence
Starting point is 00:45:01 they found. This is what they think happened. When Jodi went to take her trip to Utah, she filled up two gas cans for her trip from California to Utah. Now this was weird because there's plenty of gas stations everywhere. They were just trying to prove that this was premeditated. She didn't want to stop for gas. She didn't want to get caught on camera somewhere.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Jodie then turned off her cell phone so she couldn't have been tracked. Once she got to Travis's house, not sure what happened once she got there, but at some point he let her in. They took sexy naked photos and then Travis gets in the shower where Jodie's taking more photos, perhaps convincing him that these are like
Starting point is 00:45:39 sexy shower photos, art. Jodie asks for the final shot of him staring right into camera. Then they believe that she stabs him in the chest. He steps out of the shower, falling forwards towards the sink. They believe he was coughing based off of the blood splatter. It's believed that Jodie comes behind him, stabs him a bunch of times in the back.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Travis, still alive and fighting for his life, tries to break away and heads down the hallway. And then towards the end of the hallway, he falls to the ground. And it's believed this is where Jodie cuts his neck, drags him back into the bathroom, and then she shoots him, places him back into the shower to rinse him off.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Jodie cleans up, she puts the bedding and the camera in the washer, and then leaves to go to Utah, turning her phone back on once she gets to the main highway and pretty far from Travis' house. She then calls Travis' phone, texts, and emails him to make it seem like they had plans to meet in the future and that she's out driving.
Starting point is 00:46:41 So during trial, Jodie then takes the stand and once again changes her story. This time though, she does the worst of the worst. She puts the blame on Travis. On the stand, Jodie's crying, saying that Travis was controlling and abusive towards her. They asked, did you kill Travis? And she says, yes, but that she did it
Starting point is 00:47:04 because she was protecting herself. Because Travis was Mormon and they were, yes, but that she did it because she was protecting herself. Because Travis was Mormon and they were having sex, Jodi used this to prove that he wasn't a good person. Side note, I'm not saying that this is true, this is what was presented in court, you get it. Okay, so she's saying like, you see, he was a good Mormon man, but I have all these emails, MySpace messages and voicemails that prove he wasn't this religious man like everyone thought he was a good Mormon man, but I have all these emails, MySpace messages,
Starting point is 00:47:25 and voicemails that prove he wasn't this religious man like everyone thought he was. Everyone thought he was this good Mormon guy, but behind the scenes we were having sex. I have all of the voicemails because she recorded a lot of them. Just trying to show like, see nobody knew who he really was,
Starting point is 00:47:42 therefore nobody knew that he was abusing me. There was one phone conversation she had saved, where Travis told Jodie that he wanted to tie her up to a tree, and then they used this in court in hopes to prove that he was indeed like the crazy aggressive one. Mind you, on this phone conversation, they were having like phone sex, and he's like, I want to tie you to a tree, which is like, okay, you know, I'm not here to judge. Have your tree fun. Yeah, they tried to flip it, which is just, it's sickening. She said that the day of the murder, she walked into the room.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Wait, let me just tell you, this is upsetting. She walked into the room the day of the murder, and caught Travis pleasuring himself. And while he was pleasuring himself, he was looking at a photo. Then she said she went, she looked closer at the photo, and she realized that it was a photo of a little boy. She said that Travis had gotten to the shower, and she was taking photos of him.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Then Travis got super mad at her, dropped the camera, which led to those accidental photos of the murder. He then tried to attack her, but was able to grab a knife, stab him in the back, and then while he was down, she ran to the closet because that's where he kept his spare gun. Not spare gun, his gun. So she knew it was there, she goes and she grabs it. Jodie said that she blacked out, okay?
Starting point is 00:48:59 She blacked out, she blacked out. She doesn't remember shooting him, dragging him, cutting his neck. Nah, she doesn't remember shooting him, dragging him, cutting his neck. She doesn't remember any of that. The next thing that she remembered was driving through the desert. So Jodie's new defense was that Travis was beating her and that he was a pedophile.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Like the lowest of low. It's so upsetting, it's so, ooh. It's stories like this that discredit a lot of women who are being abused. I just wanna punch her in the face. That was her defense. He's a pedophile now. So during sentencing, Jodie was found guilty,
Starting point is 00:49:29 and the crowd inside and outside the court cheered. Well, inside the court, it was like little mumbles, but outside the court, people were just thrilled. So following is the day of sentencing. So Jodie shows up. This is another like, oh my, I can't believe she did this. During her sentencing, Jodie shows up with a T-shirt, white T-shirt, purple writing, it says,
Starting point is 00:49:51 survivor on it, survivor on it, okay? A total slap in the face to Travis's family, whose mind you, like right behind her in the pews, are those called pews? In the seats. She goes on, tells the judge that she had this shirt made to show everyone that she was a survivor of domestic abuse. She's holding it up.
Starting point is 00:50:14 This is to prove that I am a survivor of domestic abuse and I will always remember to just stay strong. It's just so fucked up. I could not believe that. I was like, what? I don't remember, what? Oh my, I told you, she's a special kind of fucked up. Anyway, so she's like, I'm a survivor.
Starting point is 00:50:35 So the jurors, they couldn't come up with a sentencing for Jodie. It ends up leading to a mistrial. Yeah, so a whole second sentencing trial went through and it ended in 2015 with another jury deadlock. In the end though, Jodie was convicted of first degree murder on May 8th, 2013 and was sentenced by the judge to life in prison
Starting point is 00:50:57 without the possibility of parole. Now Jodie tried to appeal March 24th, 2020. Yeah, she's trying to appeal. I'm a survivor. But the court upheld Jodie's to appeal, March 24th, 2020. Yeah, she's trying to appeal. I'm a survivor. But the court upheld Jodie's first degree murder conviction and life prison sentence. And that my friends is the awful story about Jodie Arias. Now it's so interesting,
Starting point is 00:51:17 I've watched so many interviews with her and stuff. She's still deny, deny, deny. Girl, get a grip. Get a grip. Jodie had moved around to a couple different prisons. I believe now they don't even wanna say where she's at. I didn't really care to look, but I did see that she moved around a couple times. She had a bunch of fans.
Starting point is 00:51:35 A lot of men were like, let me get in on this. Come on, you guys. What are you going after her for? There's lots of other women. You don't need her. Leave her alone. She needs to think about what she did. Leave her alone. She needs to think about what she did. Leave her alone. She needs to think about it. I think that she, just like Casey Anthony, I think she had been lying for so long that she actually believes her own
Starting point is 00:51:55 lies. Rest in peace to Travis. He seemed to live such a rough, not a rough life, but he turned it around and was like doing, he was a motivational speaker and trying to spread positivity. He just seemed like a good person. Fucking Jodie. I mean, what else can we say? Poor Travis. Hi friends, it's Bailey here. Thank you for listening to today's, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:15 fan favorite episode on Jodie Arias. What a diabolical lady, right? She is psychotic. That's my thoughts. Now let's talk about what Jodi has been up to since being behind bars, huh? Shall we? Well, Jodi has spent the last 12 years living out her life sentence at Arizona State Prison Complex, Perryville, in Goodyear, Arizona. She's held a few different jobs during her time there, including, I guess, storehouse worker, janitor.
Starting point is 00:52:46 She was a library aide. That's good. Keep her busy. Keep her busy. Throughout the years, Jodie has gained quite a lot of male admirers since being locked up, and allegedly she receives marriage proposals, quote, on a weekly basis, end quote.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Honestly, I believe it, because I've seen people quote. Honestly, I believe it because I've seen people online, like I believe that. I just feel like there are better options, but okay, sure. A couple of her former cellmates have reported that Jodie has the male prison guards eating out of the palm of her hand, that she knows how to flirt and use her good looks to get away with things
Starting point is 00:53:24 that other inmates normally wouldn't. Sounds about right for her, I guess. Maybe the most interesting thing Miss Jodie has been up to while being in prison is that she's become quite the artist. And not only that, she's actually been selling her artwork online with some originals going for thousands of dollars. Yes, thousands of dollars. Now I looked at some of her art, cause I was curious and, not to be a dick, but it kind of looks like typical prison art.
Starting point is 00:53:57 You know what I'm saying? Like there's a specific style and like that's good. It's fine. Or like maybe like, you know when you go to a high school art fair and the students are showing off their work and it's cute, it's you're like, fine. Okay. Yeah. It's that.
Starting point is 00:54:16 It's that. But again, keep her busy. She has a whole website and everything, you know, showcasing her art on the home page, it says, quote, original and authentic hand-drawn artwork and exclusive limited edition prints shipped direct to your door worldwide, end quote. Listen, she has a social media, she has an Instagram,
Starting point is 00:54:36 which I was like, you can have an Instagram if you murdered someone, like what? But she has an Instagram, she posts her art, and she has a fair amount of supporters out there. A lot of people say that she didn't get a fair trial. Everyone has the right to their own opinions. But I do feel a little confused on that because in my mind I'm thinking she brutally murdered, you know, her boyfriend
Starting point is 00:55:09 who didn't want anything to do with her. Like she didn't even like kind of murder him. She brutally murdered this man. So the whole movement, because it's kind of like a little one of like justice for Jodie, is very confusing to me. And I just feel like it's a little misguided in my opinion, but who am I? I'm just a girl on the internet, you know? Anyways, I guess a lot of the profits from her art sales
Starting point is 00:55:37 are meant to go toward her appeals. And Jodie did file an appeal in 2020 on the grounds that during her first trial, quote, publicity, including live media coverage of the proceedings, and a prosecutor's alleged misconduct deprived her of a fair trial and impartial jury, end quote. Girl, the evidence though, you know, I feel like that's, okay, whatever. And even though the court found that the prosecutor did engage in misconduct, the evidence overwhelmingly pointed to Jodie planning and carrying out the murder of Travis, and that this evidence, quote, would not have
Starting point is 00:56:16 permitted any reasonable juror to acquit her of the charged offense, end quote. So yeah, girl, I don't, I, nope. Nope. You're not getting out, sorry. Jodie is the type who's got, she's got a little tick in her, in her mind. She's, she's got that little crazy tick, okay? She went out of her, her way to harass, stalk and then murder this man. And I'm sorry, girl, but you need to stay in prison.
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