Murder, Mystery & Makeup - Missing Children Uncovers a STRANGE timeline of events - JJ & Tylee Vallow Part 2
Episode Date: February 28, 2023Hi Friends! Today I wanted to talk more about last week's story on Lori Vallow and her missing children Tylee and JJ Vallow. This story is so intense that it definitely deserves a part two. Love you... so much and please be safe out there! Hope to be seeing you very soon x o Bailey Sarian Check out part 1 of the Lori Vallow story here, and the original Lori Vallow Youtube video(with the great white board action) here. And don't forget to subscribe to my YouTube @BaileySarian! Tik Tok : https://bit.ly/3e3jL9v Instagram : http://bit.ly/2nbO4PR Facebook : http://bit.ly/2mdZtK6 Twitter : http://bit.ly/2yT4BLV Pinterest : http://bit.ly/2mVpXnY Youtube : http://bit.ly/1HGw3Og Snapchat : https://bit.ly/3cC0V9d Discord: https://discord.gg/BaileySarian
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Hi friends, how are you today? Happy Tuesday and welcome to the Murder, Mystery, and Makeup
podcast. Now usually our podcasts are episodes of my show Murder, Mystery, and Makeup where I do my
makeup and talk about a true crime story at the same time, you know, but today is just a little
different. I did a video on Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell like a few years back and her case is
getting ready to go to trial
or depending on when you're listening to this it already went to trial and we were in need of an
update badly. I got a lot of comments asking for an update about the Lori Vallow story but I was
waiting because I knew things were going to change and boy did they change. Whoa like what the hell
is going on with these people? So I decided to give
you an update, but make it special for my podcast listeners. So welcome to the podcast-exclusive
Lori Vallow update. Okay, so first of all, let me just start out by saying that just like two
weeks after I did the part one of the Lori Vallow story, which was in
late February of 2020. Yeah, that's right. Pandemic happened, you know, everything turned into a blur.
And if you remember, Lori and Chad were LDS doomsday cultists who were positive the world
was going to end within months. At first I was like, damn, they were totally right because the
pandemic happened. And I was like, dang, the world is ending. Maybe they were onto something. Well, it turns out
they were not right. I mean, the world hasn't come to an end. So there, yeah, I think it's
safe to say that was not correct. And life has gone on. And Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell were
not raptured into the celestial kingdom. I may be mixing up religions, but I'm not trying to be rude.
I'm just, it was very confusing, their outlook.
So yes, a lot has gone on, not only in the post-pandemic world,
but also in the story of these two killer Mormons.
So let's bring us up to speed, shall we?
We shall.
Okay, so where did we leave off?
Lori Vallow Daybell had just been arrested in Hawaii,
where she had run off to, it seems like, get away from law enforcement,
who started getting a little too close for comfort.
She had been holed up over there in Hawaii with her fifth husband, Chad,
and was finally sent back to Idaho by police.
And, of course, the kids were still at this point
missing so it was a lot of loose ends in February 2020 when I originally did this video and I was
like why did I do this video so much is going to change and it sure freaking did didn't it so March
2020 on March 5th Lori is sent back to Idaho. She's flown back.
Her bail was originally set at $5 million and then for some reason was reduced to just $1 million.
Still a lot, but like, okay.
And I guess because at this point, there wasn't really a major crime she was being charged with.
Because at this point in March 2020, the kids were still missing.
There wasn't anything that would really stand up against a $5 million bail. I mean, it was kind of clear to everybody who was paying attention to this case
what was going on, but they didn't have any physical evidence to prove what was going on.
You get it. But her bail was reduced to $1 million and then again eventually reduced to $150,000. But either way, it doesn't matter because she was unable to post bond regardless.
So that's good.
She obviously seemed like the type who was like gonna run off, fly somewhere.
Like she was gonna run.
On March 17th, 2020, Lori claims her total innocence to the court.
She's like, I haven't done anything.
The kids
are totally fine. They're just shy. Yeah, they're just shy. Like, leave it alone. But weirdly enough,
for an innocent person, two members of her defense team quit. And then the judge ended up stepping
away himself. Like, it was bizarre. We never really got clarity as to why that happened, but it did.
And then we zoomed through April and May because this is prime lockdown and Lori's hearings kept getting pushed.
But the hunt for Tylee and JJ, it doesn't stop.
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Meanwhile, back in Arizona, do you remember how Lori's brother and the guy who literally killed for her, Alex Cox, do you remember how he died suddenly?
Well, he did, if he didn't.
Well, they ended up doing an autopsy which was honestly a
great call definitely the right thing to do and on may 5th 2020 the medical examiner said that
results indicated that alex actually died of natural causes specifically he had blood clots
in the lungs essentially like blood clots got wedged into the arteries of his lungs and that's
what ended up killing him and that's so weird because like I was just watching my 600 pound
life and the girl on that episode had that wow Bailey wow sorry but they literally just watched
that episode okay the examiner said that he had a cardiovascular disease where plaque had built up in his arteries which then led to
high blood pressure which then contributed to his very natural death. I mean maybe that is true but
it was so weird wasn't it? Okay whatever. The medical examiner also performed extensive tests
including a toxicology report which had showed caffeine and a drug called Narcan in his system, which was not surprising because when first responders came in and saw him unresponsive,
they automatically gave him Narcan just in case he was having a drug overdose.
They didn't want to like wait around to find out what it was.
So that's why he was in his system.
So Alex just died, I guess, on the floor at a woman named zulema's place who had he
had just married two weeks ago so it was like those clots those blood clots are looking a little
suspish okay but who am i to argue right the medical examiner natural causes so that's it
case closed with that alex guy i guess but talk
about weird timing huh so then that brings us to june of 2020 when investigators finally narrow in
on the still not arrested chad daybell quick little recap on chad just like laurie he's a
member of the lds church uh latter-day saint and like laurori he is heavy on the end of the world shit okay he would
be considered like a doomsday prepper of sorts he also was an author who wrote a series of books
about the end of the world and like most cultists spoke about it a lot on podcasts jad was not only
under suspicion for helping to quote unquote hide lori children, but also the recent and untimely death of his young, healthy wife, Tammy, of yet again, natural effing causes.
Now, there was a whole new light being shed on this death. Tammy had died in October of 2019, but she was exhumed sometime in either December of 2019 or January of 2020, and an autopsy was performed.
But the results have never been released.
Yeah.
Maybe they're saving it for his court date because it's probably like heavy evidence, but the people want to know.
We know something is up with that death.
If you've been following this, you know Tammy was, in my personal opinion, murdered by Chad. Come on. Or Lori. I don't know. In my opinion.
I don't know. Allegedly. I don't know. Okay, so then that was happening. Then we're gonna jump
forward really quick to 2021. Tammy's kids say that the medical examiner told them how she died, which was simply asphyxiation. She was suffocated, or as her
son Garth said, she just stopped breathing. Which, sure, yeah, asphyxiation, which I guess technically,
yes, when you die you stop breathing. And a side note, but Tammy and Chad's kids actually don't think Chad is involved in any wrongdoing at all when it comes to Tammy's death.
They believe that he is as much of a victim of Lori and her right-hand brother, Alex, as anyone.
I totally can understand where they're coming from.
I mean, he, Chad, is their only remaining parent.
And you don't want to think about your dad potentially
murdering your mom especially like a man of God you know like your brain can't even compute that
so I don't blame them I don't blame them no yeah yeah yeah but sadly the police disagree I mean
they think he's guilty as hell and so does everybody else. Because on June 9th, 2020, authorities finally get the probable cause and the warrant to search Chad Daybell's home and his property.
So they get up bright and early.
They start at 7 a.m.
They head over to Chad's place and it's swarmed by the local police department, the FBI, and the county sheriff's office. And I'm unsure what,
if any, investigating they did in the house. I mean, I'm sure there was. There just isn't a lot
of news about it because everyone was focused on the pretty large amount of property out in his
backyard. He had four full acres. And the police kind of knew where to go because back in September of 2019, Alex Cox, his cell phone pinged by two specific locations.
One near a tree and one by a pet cemetery in Chad's backyard.
And just like magic, poof, within a few hours, the police, they find human remains in Chad's backyard.
Bitch.
So they come across some human remains, and they actually end up bringing in a backhoe in order to dig deeper in the backyard and find every scrap of evidence they can.
And, of course, they drag Chad's ass straight on over to jail. He's arrested on two
felony charges, and the only things they can prove right then in the moment is one being concealment
and the other being distribution or alteration of evidence. A couple of days go by, and that's
when authorities can confirm that the remains of those found in the backyard were of Tylee and JJ. JJ sadly was buried
under the location by the tree and Tylee was found buried in the pet cemetery. Fucking sickos.
Another quick side note, back in 2019, Chad had sent his still living wife Tammy the weirdest
text message. Here's what it said, quote, well, I've had an interesting morning. I felt I
should burn all of the limb debris by the fire pit before it got too soaked by the coming storms.
Well, I did so. I spotted a big raccoon along the fence. I hurried and got my gun and he was still
walking along. I got close enough that one shot did the trick. He is now in our pet cemetery.
Fun times, end quote. So I think, you know, based off my observation, and I'm no professional,
but I think he's trying to cover up something like a newly dug hole. He's trying to play it
off like he shot a raccoon. That text message kind of lined up with the timeline and sadly Tylee's remains were far too gone to identify just based on a visual.
She had been both dismembered and burned so her body had no recognizable features.
An orthodontist was able to identify the remains by matching the body's irregular jawline and comparing it to an x-ray of Tylee's jawline from when she was still alive.
They were able to also somehow obtain enough soft tissue from underneath the burnt flesh in order
to perform a DNA test. Apparently those tests as of right now are still being processed. JJ on the
other hand was able to be identified. He was wrapped in plastic and wasn't burnt like
Tylee. He was identified by investigators as well as by Melanie Polowski. She's the ex-husband of
Brandon. It's just like they're kind of related to the family, if you don't remember. They're part
of this sick group. Do you remember I had to bring out my whiteboard for this because there were so
many players in this game? So I know this is a podcast and I don't have my whiteboard but these
people are just like the add-ons okay great I know because you're like Melanie who the hell is
Melanie it's Lori and Alex's niece she ended up leaving her husband to join both Lori and Alex in their doomsday prep.
Back in February of 2020, it was believed that Melanie and Alex were actually working together
to try and kill her then-husband, Brandon.
Yeah, if you remember, Brandon was shot at and luckily not killed,
but the getaway car was a Jeep that belonged to Lori Vallow's deceased husband Charles who was shot by Alex.
Oh my god messy messy messy messy. I know Melanie has played a strange role in this whole thing.
It's like is she good? Is she bad? I don't know. So then August of 2020 Chad Daybell pleads not
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So in May of 2021, both Lori and Chad are charged with the first degree murders of Tylee and JJ.
Chad also gets a little bonus charge of first degree murder in the death of his first wife
and the mother of his children, Tammy Daybell. So whatever the autopsy revealed about asphyxiation,
I'm guessing it was ruled a homicide, even though, again, the findings were never publicly released.
But I'm sure we'll find out in court, or maybe when court's over, we'll get like,
you know, the documents and all that. I can't wait. So after Lori is officially charged with murder, she undergoes a psychiatric evaluation
and she was deemed incompetent to stand trial. So what does that mean? Well, Lori's case in trial
gets put on hold while she undergoes restorative mental health treatment. Basically the law won't
let someone who is, you you know not in the best mental
space to stand trial and if you are familiar with my murder mystery and makeups then you know that
a lot of um you know murderers they try to go for this they want to be incompetent to stand trial
because then you can at least get a quote unquote lighter sentence but in order to actually get this to be labeled incompetent you
really really have to be you know not mentally well so yeah i wonder what was going on with
laurie huh some believe that laurie was just stalling um but i who fucking knows i mean
obviously she's not well she killed her kids so i think that's safe to say. And then Lori gets another charge of first degree murder for the death of her first husband,
the poor Charles Vallow. But since she was ruled incompetent, she doesn't enter a plea.
So I guess that is now having to wait as well. So then it's now June of 2021 and Chad Daybell pleads not guilty to all charges. Okay
then we wait again. August of 2021 prosecutors announce that they will be seeking the death
penalty for Chad. Whoopsie. And then in that same month Chad also waives his constitutional right to
a speedy trial. Which means he wants to go through with the whole
trial and i hope they air it put him on blast now september rolls around and like i've said before
chad's four adult kids are all 100 convinced of his innocence not only of killing their mother
but also of the murder and cover-up of the children they even go as far to say on the show
48 hours that chad's daughter, Emma,
she said that even if he had committed a crime like that, there's no way he would be dumb enough
to bury the evidence in his backyard. Poor Emma. Honey, I think he would do that. I really do.
It's not funny. It's just, you know, I get, I get get it I'm sure you don't want to believe your own
father would do that but I think he did Emma Emma I think he did but many people were like okay well
let's hear Chad's kids out because they actually have a point so apparently Chad used to be an
actual grave digger like this was his actual job even, as he does with all of his hobbies,
wrote a book about it. Yes, he published a book in 2001 called One Foot in the Grave,
Strange but True Adventures of a Cemetery Sexton, end quote. Now there were all kinds of really
interesting quotes from this book, but one really ominous one was when he wrote that quote
sad times are always when you have to bury babies no I'm not laughing at that I'm not laughing at
that it's just I maybe okay but that's one that really stuck out to people okay so two things
about this one apparently gravediggers are called sextons. Great. And of course, Chad is
going to call himself a sexton and not a gravedigger and never has a word described to man
more actually. Sexton? Yeah. And two, his kids argue that there's no way a former professional
sexton dug too shallow and easily found graves. would have been smarter than that there's no way
he would have done that that's their defense and like i could see that you know but again like come
on babe he was in the backyard like who else would do it laurie just laurie by herself okay i'm sorry
that's not nice but it kind of is because like that's the truth. So it's now the
year 2022 and things are starting to kind of chug along. The outside world is kind of getting over
the pandemic. We're like riddled with variants and nobody really gives a shit anymore. And we're no
longer locking down and Lori and Chad can't stall their, their shit anymore. on april 11th some big things in laurie's case come forward
the judge declares that she is now competent to stand trial she is then released from the mental
health facility where she was for nearly a full year and into the loving embrace of the fremont
county sheriff's office to await trial then May, prosecutors announced that they will also
be seeking the death penalty for Lori. They say that she qualifies for capital punishment
because the killings were, quote, exceptionally depraved and financially motivated, end quote.
Yeah, they claim it was financially motivated, and that's what the two conspiracy charges against Lori are. That because
her husband Charles died, her kid's father, the kids were getting checks from the state. So
authorities claim that Lori and Chad wanted that cash and the kids were just too darn expensive.
So now in May of 2022 Lori's team once again files a motion to pause proceedings and push her trial.
They're saying that she's actually not well and she needs to have her competency rechecked.
And the judge ends up granting this.
I mean, yes, she's probably going through a lot right now.
Does this mean we have to delay a trial every time she gets overwhelmed?
Question mark, you know?
Well, we got to be fair or whatever there
might be some method to the madness here because prosecutors want Lori and Chad's cases linked
so they settled on at this point a trial date of January 9th 2023 for both of them so remember how
Lori and her former husband Charles Vallow adopted JJ?
Well, if you don't, just a little quick recap.
The story is that JJ's biological father was Charles Vallow's nephew.
Oh yeah.
And then JJ ended up in the care of his grandparents, Charles's sister, and brother-in-law. So Charles and Lori at this time in the beginning they were newly married right
and they asked if they could adopt JJ. So JJ's grandparents said yes you know they had already
raised their family they might be getting a bit older and not be as equipped to raise a newborn.
So Charles makes good money and was very dedicated to the family and the church so they thought this
would be a great fit.
Even though JJ was adopted by Lori and Charles his grandparents were still very involved in his life.
In fact if you remember it was his grandmother Kay who sounded the alarm after not hearing from JJ
or seeing him on FaceTime in quite some time. They also had a $20,000 reward out for information into his and Tylee's
disappearance. They were very hands-on. Anyway, all of this to say that the grandmother, Kay,
she's not happy about this delay in trial. She tells reporters that Lori is, quote,
doing what she does best, playing games and manipulating the situation to suit her her
wants her needs it's all a stall tactic I'm angry and disappointed beyond belief end quote so it
turns out Lori really was I mean playing games because on March 26 2022 Fremont County Judge, his name's Stephen Boyce, he issued a written decision
to approve Lori Daybell's trial delay. Now a little bit about the old constitution of the
United States of America is that it is everyone's constitutional right to have a speedy trial. So
her attorneys, the same ones who requested the trial to be pushed,
opted to not waive her right to a speedy trial. Now what this does is it forces the prosecution
to try Lori's case within six months of her arrangement. A little trick that they actually
end up using later, which I will get into like very soon soon just keep that little deet in your noggin for a bit
okay but just follow the timeline because back on July 19th of 2022 prosecutors in Chad's case
requested DNA testing on hair a shovel a pickaxe and other evidence that they ended up finding
clearly they wanted to establish some
kind of pattern or like a chain of custody or something they just want to have the ironclad
dna evidence either on chad's tools in his possession that would have dna from tylee and
jj on it okay then on on august 24th 2022 netflix announced that they were releasing a docu-series about you know laurie
and chad and it was called sins of our mother did you watch it i did i know uh what did you think
so if you've been following this case you know that the netflix doc is definitely the most
comprehensive piece about it so far and not to throw it under the bus but two things about it one it neglected to mention that
Lori had another sister who had died her name was Stacy and she's the mother of Melanie
I need my board my whiteboard don't I and also the narrative relied very heavily on Lori's
oldest son his name is Colby Ryan remember he was the guy who was on youtube trying to get his mom
to answer his questions he was like making cries out to his mom why are you doing this mom where
are tylee and jj it was really sad i felt bad for him but then in september 2022 it came out that
colby ryan was arrested for rape what the fuck is up with this family like i'm not trying to be rude but i
don't think this family is okay my god these people are psycho to be fair the charges against
colby ended up being dropped and the victim who came out and you know had him arrested was his
estranged wife who was visible in the netflix as well. So but she ends up dropping the charges
and you know I guess we can't really go there but not a great look right? Geez. Next stop is
October 6, 2022. Lori Vallow's trial was postponed again until competency can be determined. So no go on January 2023 trial. Meanwhile, Chad Daybell's
attorney filed a motion to postpone his trial and also to sever it from Lori's trial because Chad
wants his own trial and not to be tried together. Now everybody wants Chad and Lori to be tried
together. That's what they're going for, but they're fighting against this.
I think because Chad is going to try and turn and blame everything on Lori and vice versa. Yep,
it's going to go down. Well, then in November of 2022, Lori was declared competent. Again,
congratulations, you made it. January of 2023,ie vallow announces that her attorneys will not use her mental health
as a defense in her murder trial so all of the mental competency stuff they're basically saying
the stress of her arrest and her children dying and all that were what caused her to be incompetent
they are not saying she was incompetent at the time of the alleged crime.
Basically, you can't blame mental health if you plan on pleading not guilty and being acquitted
with, I guess, a clean slate. Admitting you had nothing to do with it. Bold. And according to
documents filed that week, Lori had actually let out some juicy tidbits. Lori then claims that her children actually died in her brother, Alex Cox.
They died in his apartment.
Whoa, what?
Yeah, not saying that that's true, but that's a new detail that we haven't heard before.
Lori does like to keep changing her story.
She likes to keep it interesting and new
all of the time and it's exhausting but I think that's what she's trying to do really is confuse
and exhaust everybody and then in those same documents she says that she wants to meet with
her husband for strategy sessions and she believes she does not qualify for the death penalty.
So she wants to meet with Chad and have
these strategy sessions, which what does that mean? But I don't know, but that's what she's asking for.
Okay, so we're kind of caught up now. And so the fun question is, okay, well, what is the state of
Lori and Chad right now? Where are we in the love story of the daybells i mean we haven't heard from them in quite some
time i mean obviously they're a little busy right now but laurie sent us a little hint in 2022
in an image of her in prison it looks like she's wearing a black ring on her left ring finger now
if you be petty and you zoom in you can actually see like it's a hair tie just a black hair tie wrapped around her
finger since jewelry is not allowed when you're in prison it's believed by many that she's wearing
that as a symbol of her undying devotion to Chad this is what a lot of people are saying I don't
know maybe she's got a girlfriend in jail, in prison I mean. It could
mean that too. She seems to get around, not in a bad, well yeah, she seems to get around. It could
be a girlfriend, but many believe that it's for Chad. Their reunion is not going to happen anytime
soon because the judge denied her request for some one-on-one time with Chad. Chad's attorneys asked the judge to postpone
his trial until April 2024 and they got a hard no on that one thank god. And then also in January
2023 this happened just a couple of weeks ago the prosecutors have announced that they plan to
present quote-unquote sufficient evidence that will show
Lori completely intended for her two children to die not only that as well as Tammy Daybell
now that's kind of a bombshell Lori wasn't even charged in Tammy's death it was only Chad
prosecutors have also entered an argument that says the jury
when this case finally goes to trial should be sequestered. I'm having a hard time with this
word you guys sequestered when it begins on April 3rd. Sequestering means nothing from the outside
world that could taint your point of view about the case if you're on the jury. So that means if you are selected to
be on this jury, that means you can't have any internet, no TV, no contact with loved ones.
You can't pretty much talk to anybody during the whole trial because it could affect, I don't know,
the outcome. It's not a fair trial if you know or
doing some petty research on the side I know for me if I got picked as a jury it would be hard to
be unbiased I mean everyone knows so much about this case as well so it's like finding jury members
is going to be really difficult but that's what they're asking for is for people to come in and just hopefully follow the rules
which I'm sure like yeah tell people on a jury that they can't have internet or tv for like 10
weeks see how that's gonna go I'm sure it's gonna go great now many people think Chad is like a
useful idiot who was manipulated by Lori now it is revealed that when Chad's lawyers requested the year-long push it was
because Chad is apparently awaiting the results of that DNA evidence to be done. Remember the DNA
that the prosecutors had requested? Now it's like well why would the defense want that? One theory
is that Chad thinks it might exonerate him like maybe his dna won't be on any
of the tools maybe it would only be laurie huh and then he could be like see i didn't do it it was
all laurie i'm just the pushover i'm just the guy who didn't know no no no yeah right chad yeah right
chad suck on my titty.
All right, so remember when I said Lori's attorneys didn't waive her right to a speedy trial? And it was a little trick up their cheeky little sleeves.
Well, okay, look.
They claim in late January 2023 that Lori Vallow's constitutional rights have been tread upon.
And that this delay, remember remember one they kind of called
for claiming she was incompetent had impinged on her right to a speedy trial yeah the judge
ended up shutting that shit down real quick uh but you know she's playing bitch games okay so look this is where we're at with the laurie valo chad daybell
situation we are all caught up this case has been wild i feel like this is just the surface stuff
there are still a lot of conspiracies and a lot of unanswered questions the next court hearing
is scheduled for february 9th which is literally like as I'm filming this I think it's
what a couple days away so once that happens girl I'm on it I am keeping my notes okay so by the
time this podcast airs um we're probably going to get more information but I will keep you updated
baby I just didn't want to do an update um because I was waiting for this to
go to court and things have been changing so much throughout the years isn't it crazy I feel like I
just did this video um or this I'm sorry this story just happened but it's been a couple of
years now isn't that nuts so we will keep an eye out see what happens next i think we all know because we're not dumb that chad chad
daybell and laurie vallow in my personal opinion i have to say that allegedly i think they're guilty
as fuck come on i hope they get locked away forever and i also hope that they air the trial
on court tv um i hope they at least show stuff or the release of documents okay anyways I would love to
hear what you guys think down in the comment section or over on social media share with me
any of the um the nitty-gritty details that you know I'm missing I need to know I have a file
dedicated to this whole story all right I hope you have a good rest of your day if you have no
idea what I'm talking about I do have the Lori Vallow Chad Daybell murder mystery makeup over on my YouTube channel as well
where I go over just like when it first happened and I have a whiteboard with pictures if you're
like having a hard time follow along following along but other than that I will keep you updated
I hope you have a great rest of your day. Please make good choices out there.
And I will be talking to you guys very soon.
Goodbye.