Murder, Mystery & Makeup - Satanic Panic!? Who was behind the Fall River Cult murders?

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Hi friends, happy Tuesday! Today's story starts at the onset of the 80s "Satanic Panic" craze in a town called Fall River, Massachusetts. Three young women were murdered in cold blood, all because of... a pimp and his satanic cult? And how did they end up being chosen as "human sacrifices?" This story is seriously cruel, and sparked mass hysteria for years to come... Also, let me know who you want me to talk about next time. Hope you have a great rest of your week, make good choices and I'll be seeing you very soon xo Bailey Sarian   ________ :  :    F O L L O W    M E     :  : Discord: http://discord.gg/baileysarian Tik Tok: https://bit.ly/3e3jL9v Instagram: http://bit.ly/2nbO4PR Facebook: http://bit.ly/2mdZtK6 Twitter: http://bit.ly/2yT4BLV Pinterest: http://bit.ly/2mVpXnY Youtube: http://bit.ly/1HGw3Og Snapchat: https://bit.ly/3cC0V9d RECOMMEND A STORY HERE : cases4bailey@gmail.com  Business Related Emails : Baileysarianteam@wmeagency.com Wanna Send Me Something? Bailey Sarian 4400 W Riverside Dr Ste 110-300, Burbank, CA 91505 ________ Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/MAKEUP to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today.  New episodes release every Monday, wherever you get your podcasts. Just search for “Horoscope Weekly with Aliza Kelly”. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to https://www.RocketMoney.com/MAKEUP.

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Starting point is 00:00:31 My name is Bailey Sarian and today was Monday, which means it's Murder, Mystery, and Makeup Monday. If you are new here, hi, my name is Bailey Sarian. And on Mondays, I like to sit down and talk about a true crime story that's been heavy on my noggin and I do my makeup at the same time except you're listening to the podcast so I am not doing my makeup. You are listening. You should feel special because this is a podcast exclusive. I've actually been sitting on this story for a while and I don't know why. I think because, I'm not sure, but it's called the Fall River Cult and it's pretty graphic. Just a little disclaimer. They're all pretty graphic but I think in this one it's really intense. Let's get into today's story. The Fall River Cult. Yeesh. Our story starts off with Robin Murphy. It was said that Robin Murphy, at only 17 years old, had a hold on people other than her.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Like, she knew how to manipulate everyone around her, even the police. Even though she was involved in three murders, she was able to negotiate her sentencing. Robin had met Andre, or Andy, who was a pimp in Fall River when she was only 11 years old and this man Andy he was in his 30s so she was completely taken advantage of and became a sex worker for him. I guess Robin was hitchhiking and Andy pulled over to pick her up and from there everything just went downhill. He gave her pills and began performing sexual acts on her. In his trunk I guess he carried a dildo and like all of his pills for whenever the mood striked or he picked up like another girl. I'm like this is what we know
Starting point is 00:02:19 of the beginning of Robin Murphy and the pimp slash satanic cult leaders of Fall River. So Robin and Andy were close because he controlled everything that, you know, she did. And when Robin turned 13, she began dating older guys. And Andy would track her down with these other men and like pull up to her car and beat on the car like intimidating her and he told her that he would call the cops on the men because she was a minor so she would reluctantly go with Andy. Once she would get out of the car he would then quote like beat the shit out of her. The next four years of Robin's life are murky and she was known as like a notorious liar in court so robin worked as a sex worker in the territory called bedford street but this territory i'm quote unquote territory was like run by the pimps carl drew and and then that Andy guy that found Robin. So the pimps and prostitutes, as well
Starting point is 00:03:28 as other drug addicts on and around Bedford Street, participated in the satanic cult led primarily by Carl Drew and Andy Maltais. February 1979, Karen Marsden entered the picture working as a sex worker for Carl Drew. That summer, Karen and Robin had met through Drew and both of them began a relationship at that point along with other pimps and prostitutes. And they also attended Drew's satanic ritual meetings. The police seemed to be very aware of this quote unquote satanic cult, but like, you know, they just thought like, whatever, they're just doing their little thing. Like there was nothing coming of it.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Do you know what I'm saying? Plus it was said that there were undercover cops who attended the seances under the high school bleachers and in apartments. So I don't know what the fuck is going on in this town but there's something going on in this fucking town. There was a young girl named Doreen Levesque who was only 17 when she ran away from a foster home and became a sex worker for Carl Drew. Remember the pimp slash satanic cult leader, and Doreen had attended the satanic ritual meetings which were hosted by Drew like the rest of the sex workers did. Robin, who was 16 at
Starting point is 00:04:53 the time, claimed that in the particularly debolic ritual, Karen, Doreen, some other guy named Willie, and Drew were the only ones in attendance. Fall Rivers in Massachusetts and on October 12, 1979, Carl Drew had a very big role in the satanic cult rituals. He was very dedicated to satanism and he had a tattoo of a devil's head with the inscription, Satan's Avengers. He would always get really into the rituals and chant in a low, scratchy voice in order to conjure Satan's presence. At the meeting under like the high school bleachers on October 12th, Drew had performed a satanic ritual sacrifice. When I say Drew, I mean Carl Drew. This is like the big leader guy, okay? I'm flip-flopping between his first name and his last name, and I apologize.
Starting point is 00:05:50 October 12th, he's performing a ritual, okay? Some kind of ritual sacrifice. So he takes Doreen, who's 17, remember? He bound her wrist with fishing wire, and then he stabbed her multiple times and then stoned her oh yeah stoned her like what the fuck she was in sexually tortured at some point uh during that night as well according to the medical examiner the binds on her wrist had a ritual element to them and I guess this ritual's purpose was supposed to offer Karen Marsden's soul to Satan. Great. Immediately after Doreen was murdered Drew and Robin knelt by her body and began chanting. Drew cut an X in her chest and smeared the blood on Robin's forehead and said
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Starting point is 00:07:26 And I guess when she was doing so, I guess it freaked her out, but they would argue pretty often. And then Drew began to like threaten her life. Like you can't effing leave. It's unclear why Doreen was chosen for the sacrifice, but the court had believed it was because Doreen wanted to leave the cult. Like she had already been a part of it and I guess she had wanted out and then that's why they decided to sacrifice her but that's just what they believed. No one really knows. Not even a month later on November 7th 1979 Robin Andy, they were at a bar until midnight.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Andy had been seeing 22 year old Barbara Raposa and they had been seeing each other for quite some time. He believed that he was the father to her infant son, even though that was never confirmed, but he played daddy, I guess. Barbara had decided to leave the life of sex work and end her relationship with Andy. On this night Barbara was getting ready to go on a date with a man named David Cowan. They
Starting point is 00:08:32 planned to go to a diner and a movie after dropping her son off with the babysitter and at some point that night Barbara was in desperate need of money and she told David that she didn't want to go work the street but Barbara had David drop her off on Bedford Street and told him that she would meet up with him at a saloon later that night. Yeah I guess she was going to do some sex work on their date but I think I'm not laughing at that it's just like so it's so yeah, okay. All right, that's what happened. So at this time, Andy and Robin left the bar and like headed out to find Barbara. And I guess on the way over,
Starting point is 00:09:13 Andy said that he planned on killing Barbara for dating another man, especially this guy, David. So they're looking for Barbara, they find her and they pick her up. They're like getting to the car and I guess they offer Barbara a joint. For reasons unknown, Robin and Barbara start arguing and start fighting in the car. Maybe Barbara knew what was about to happen because it was said that they had gone to an altar, quote unquote altar, in the woods where they had previously like sacrificed animals
Starting point is 00:09:47 andy stopped the car in the woods and pulled barbara out to get her away from robin andy got two paper bags out of the trunk and then took barbara into the woods robin i guess stayed in the car and listened to the radio and then watched them have sex in the woods. Yeah what the fuck is going on? I don't know. I don't fucking know. Suddenly Robin heard Barbara screaming and she said Andy was like sitting on top of her Barbara holding a rock with both hands above his head. Robin said that she just like turned away and decided to just keep on listening to the radio. Andy finally returned. He put his two paper bags in the trunk and told Robin he wanted Barbara to quote crawl away end quote. Andy then took Robin home. He's like bye have a good
Starting point is 00:10:38 night. David waited in the saloon until 1 a.m. Barbara never showed. He then went searching for her and checked all of her like street spots. She was nowhere to be found and the next morning Barbara's father ended up reporting her missing. I guess when Barbara was reported missing Andy was like oh I can help like telling police like I help you guys, I'll go searching for her. Like what the fuck? I believe this was all part of his strategy and like filling his ego, making him think he was smarter than police.
Starting point is 00:11:13 But he was like, I'm gonna help. Where is she? On November 12th, 1979, Andy went to the Fall River Police Station and asked an officer if she had any information on Barbara. He then asked two more times on November 26th and the first week of December. He's like, are there any updates? What's going on? I just want to help. He then told the officer the quote unquote rumors he had been hearing on the street about Barbara's whereabouts.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Around the same time, Andy showed up at the home of a former classmate who was a current state trooper and told them that he knew two women who had information on the murder of Doreen, the first murder. Andy then drove to the state police barracks to speak with someone investigating the murder. Andy then drove to the state police barracks to speak with someone investigating the murder and I guess he like set up a meeting with the corporal, Robin, Karen, and himself.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's believed like he wanted to establish trust with the officers so that they didn't suspect him for the murder or the second murder. After the meeting Andy pretty often called the corporal trying to get more information about Doreen and like where the case was at. In December 1979 Karen Marsden went into hiding to get away from Drew. She moved in with Robin and a woman named Carol Fletcher, who's 24. While in hiding, Karen began meeting with an officer investigating the death of Doreen. At the same time, Drew was searching for Karen and asking questions as to where she was. And like everyone was on edge because it wasn't much of a secret that Karen was communicating with officers. On January 26, 1980, almost three months after Barbara was murdered, her body was found in the woods near a plant in Fall River.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Her hands were bound and her skull was crushed. The next day, January 27th at 5.15 a.m., officers showed up at Andy's apartment and informed him that a body had been discovered and asked him to head to the police station. Andy had asked directly, is it regarding Barbara? And police told him yes. And Andy followed them in his own car to the station. When he was in interrogation, he informed the detective that he had called the state police, higher ups, and that they would be there soon to take over the investigation.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Like he thought he was a big shot and had like control or something. I don't know. He was like, oh, the state police will be like handling this. Like you don't need to be questioning me. He underwent another interview on January 29th where he told police quote I go to bed at night and sat down all the time and tried to put myself in the picture with her and in her place end quote so that he could try and come up with
Starting point is 00:14:17 information about Barbara's disappearance and at the end of the interview he requested saying quote if I could go there to the site of the murder sometimes with one of you guys sometime you know just to look around to get an idea maybe it would help out end quote I guess he was trying to state that he had some kind of like psychic that's so raven ability where like if he went to the area, maybe he could figure out what happened to Barbara and like help them out because he's special. On February 4th, 1980, Drew told Karen's roommate, Carol, that in the right time and the right place, he was going to kill Karen. I don't know, I guess she was like talking to police
Starting point is 00:15:02 or something. So, February 5th, 1980, Andy met with the corporal again to inform him about a dream that he had. He said that two angels showed him the murder of Barbara. And as he floated in the air at the treetop level, he saw a man carry a woman and drop her on the ground he said that the woman was barbara oh god barbara yeah he said the man walked away got an object returned and stood behind barbara's head and lifted a rock up and struck her repeatedly in the face. The man was screaming at her and cursing in bad English. Barbara was screaming, Andy, help me. Andy, forgive me.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And the man said, Andy isn't going to help you anymore. This is according to his dream. Andy said the motive for murder was a love affair. He said the killer liked Barbara, but she had double-crossed him. He said that Barbara overdosed on drugs or else she wouldn't have gone to the woods with the man. Wow, some wild dream he had, huh?
Starting point is 00:16:17 So the DA asked Andy to circle on a map where he was, quote, floating in the air and where perhaps the murder had happened in his dream. The officers then escorted Andy to the murder site and on the way there, they heard him say, quote, I think they've got me now. And when they get there, they heard him also say, I know they've got me now. When they had walked to the site, Andy told the officers he was getting vibes and visions. He then took them to the murder site in his dreams. He then reenacted the murder for the officers and told them that
Starting point is 00:16:52 Barbara knew who her murderer was like very well and that they had planned on having sex and was surprised when he murdered her. He's just saying way too fucking much but like good thing he is but hey what the fuck is he doing? Andy then described the rock murder weapon and walked over to a pile of broken concrete and said I sense a murder weapon in that pile. Yeah I don't know what his plan was but okay. Nearly two weeks after Barbara's body was found in two days after Andy's dream and murder reenactment. Andy was arrested and charged with Barbara's murder on February 7th, 1980. Four days after Drew confided in Carol about his plans to kill 20-year-old Karen, and the day after Andy was arrested and charged with Barbara's murder,
Starting point is 00:17:43 on February 8th, Karen, Carol, and Robin were in Carol's car and like I guess they were on Karen's quote working street or her old working street because she no longer was trying to sex work. Drew and Carl Davis. Carl Davis is a new player in the story. Not confirmed but I think he was also kind of like a leader in whatever cult they thought they were running. Drew and Carl Davis then entered the car and Davis told Carol to drive the five of them to Family Beach in Westport. Once they arrived in the woods Drew ordered 17 year old Robin to drag Karen out the car, and she did so by taking her by the hair and throat and dragging her into the woods. Then Robin and Drew began beating her with rocks.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Then Drew handed her a knife and told her to slit Karen's throat, So she did. He snapped her neck. He took her pants off and then he began raping her dead body. The fuck? I know. Oh my god. And then it gets, if you think it couldn't get worse, it gets worse. Drew then tore her head from her body and then kicked it into the woods. I'm not, I'm not lying. He then marked, quote unquote, marked Karen's body. Like he dipped his thumb in her blood and like made a cross on Robin's forehead. Ugh. Then they all went home like nothing happened. Yeah, it was so that Robin went home and she and Carol, quote, ate some chicken, drank a beer, and smoked a joint. Could you imagine? What in the fuck? People like that. What the? Nope. Months go by when then out of nowhere, Drew admits to one of
Starting point is 00:19:34 his prostitutes that he had quote, killed a girl and I guess went on to describe it in detail. He told the woman that he did it because she wanted to leave the cult and that he wanted her to feel pain. Geez. On April 13th, 1980, police recovered a portion of Karen's skull, jewelry, clothing, bloodstained rocks, and a clump of her hair. The Barbara Raposa and Karen Marston murders seemed to be tried sort of together in court and Robin Murphy was like the key witness. She had continually admitted to being involved and then she would backtrack and say she wasn't. Like she had been very inconsistent and had lied a lot in court and again was known as like a notorious liar so it
Starting point is 00:20:28 was hard to take anything she was saying truthfully. Carl Drew was arrested and denied his involvement in the murder murders and said that he would never plead guilty to any of the murders either of them but he was given a life sentence without the possibility of parole. In court Robin said quote I'd never have killed Karen if I hadn't been possessed. I love her end quote and in January of 1981 Robin pled guilty to second degree murder. I guess Robin she she's been locked up and she has applied for parole three times before it was granted in 2004. She then began a relationship with a known felon and when she was pulled over for speeding, the felon was in her passenger seat with heroin. So whoops, you know. Robin never told her parole officer and was then I guess sent back into
Starting point is 00:21:26 custody in 2011 for violating her parole and she she has again been denied parole in 2017 but I guess she can apply every couple of years but it's not looking good for her remember the guy Andy I mentioned earlier yeah he was found guilty and was convicted of first degree murder on January 30th 1981 and he was sentenced to life in prison and he has since died while in custody. The Doreen Levesque case was never solved and Robin recanted her testimony so she no longer has immunity for that crime. Now I think I remember why I never did this story because there are so many missing parts and things that don't have a lot of background or clarification. I think what we do know is that these people were sick right and they believe
Starting point is 00:22:20 they were in this cute little satanic cult and were killing people for no reason when the reality was Carl and who was it Andy were just straight up like pimping out young girls and saying that they were running a cult and pretty much saying that the devil was involved pretty to like keep these girls scared and working for them period like that's what it was and then they killed these women who wanted out because sadly like police don't really go looking for sex workers and it's like they I felt I feel like they kind of knew that and they were so sloppy about it I don't know this story is just so gross luckily they had gotten caught and i hope they have lived miserable awful lives in prison great it's kind of tricky because like
Starting point is 00:23:16 with robin specifically like she was picked up at such such a young age like she too was a victim but she does need to pay the price for participating in murder. You know what I'm saying? Like two things can be right at the same time. She's a victim, but she also participated in murder. So girl, you can't do that. You can't, you can't do that, okay?
Starting point is 00:23:40 Just some life advice, you can't do that. I'm sorry if this was a little, what's the word? Missing some pieces. But what we do know is that it was fucked up. All right. But other than that, I hope you have a good rest of your day. Make good choices, please. And be safe out there, okay?
Starting point is 00:23:59 And don't believe these satanic cults. They're just a trap, a way for these men to be in charge and take advantage of young vulnerable, usually women and men. So yeah, get out of the cult. Okay. Okay. I hope you have a good day. Make good choices. And I'll be talking to you next week. Goodbye. Thank you.

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