Murder, Mystery & Makeup - The Shocking Case of Robert Pickton | 49 Women, A Pig Farm, and A Horrifying Secret

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

Hi friends! Happy Tuesday!! On the outskirts of Vancouver, hidden behind barns, pig pens, and the chaos of a wild biker gang, Robert Pickton built a kingdom of horror. Known as the Pig Farmer Killer, Pickton lured vulnerable women to his farm—where they vanished forever. But was he really acting alone? Or was there a darker network protecting him all along? In this episode, I dive deep into one of Canada’s most disturbing cases. From the infamous Piggy Palace parties (where even off-duty cops and Hells Angels showed up) to the shocking police failures that let a predator keep hunting for years, this story is packed with corruption, cover-ups, and unanswered questions. With DNA evidence, survivor testimony, and chilling confessions, the truth about what happened on the Pickton farm is more twisted than you can imagine. And maybe... Robert Pickton was just the face of something much bigger. Let’s get into the Dark History of the Pig Farmer Killer. Also, let me know who you want me to talk about next time. Hope you have a great rest of your week, make good choices and I'll be seeing you very soon. xo Bailey Sarian ________ FOLLOW ME AROUND Tik Tok: https://bit.ly/3e3jL9v Instagram: http://bit.ly/2nbO4PR Goodreads: https://bit.ly/44P51lp Facebook: http://bit.ly/2mdZtK6 Twitter: http://bit.ly/2yT4BLV Pinterest: http://bit.ly/2mVpXnY Youtube: http://bit.ly/1HGw3Og Snapchat: https://bit.ly/3cC0V9d Discord: https://discord.gg/BaileySarian RECOMMEND A STORY HERE: [e-mail] Business Related Emails: [e-mail] Business Related Mail: Bailey Sarian 4400 W. Riverside Dr., Ste 110-300 Burbank, CA 91505 _________ For a limited time, save on the perfect gift by visiting AuraFrames.com to get $35 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Mat frames - named #1 by Wirecutter - by using promo code MAKEUP at checkout. That’s AuraFrames.com promo code MAKEUP. This deal is exclusive to listeners and frames sell out fast, so order yours now to get it in time for the holidays! Support the show by mentioning us at checkout! Terms and conditions apply. Give a gift they’ll actually use and love with Quince. Go to Quince.com/MURDERMYSTERY for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. That’s Quince.com/MURDERMYSTERY. Free shipping and 365-day returns. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. Go to RocketMoney.com/MAKEUP today. That’s RocketMoney.com/MAKEUP. 

Hi friends, how are you today? My name is Bailey Sarian and today is Monday, which means it's murder, mystery, and makeup Monday. Hi, if you're new here, that's my new theme song. If you're new here, hi, my name is Bailey Sarian and on Mondays I sit down and I talk about a true crime story. That's been heavy on my noggin and I do my makeup at the same time. But let's talk about today, okay? Listen, In the quiet outskirts of Vancouver, surrounded by mud, pigs, and the stench of something far worse, a man built himself a kingdom. A pig farmer who threw wild parties, rubbed elbows with the hell's angels, and ran shady charities. All while hiding one of the most horrifying secrets Canada has ever seen.

His name, maybe you know, was Robert Picton, also known as the Pickton. farmer killer or the butcher. Oh, this man lured women to his farm and never let them leave. But here's the question. Was this really the work of one man? Or was something bigger, darker, and more organized going on? Yep. Disclaimer. Disclaimer. Today's episode contains discussions of violence, murder, and sensitive topics that may be disturbing to some viewers. viewer discretion is advised. So let's get into Mr. Robert Picton. So Robert Picton was born on October 24th, 1949.

But he grew up in a small town. Well, it was like a small growing industrial suburb called Port Coquitlam. How'd I do? Coquitlam? Well, it's just outside of Vancouver and Canada. Okay? Now, at this time, there were like a lot of farmers, railroad workers, and like manufacturing industries in this area.

It was said that when Robert was born, his umbilical cord was like wrapped around his neck, which had cut off oxygen to his brain for a good amount of time. At least that's what like the family said. And like the family would point to this as to why Robert grew up as a little, he was a little off, odd, you could say. The Picton family bought and operated like a really big farm. where they raised pigs and cattle and then, you know, slaughter them.

And again, like, this farm was pretty damn big. It was at least, like, 30 acres. Robert's father, he was around, but it was said that his mom was mainly the one who ran the business. Like, she was very strict. She was a workaholic. I think she was just freaking maintaining this farm. It's huge.

Okay? So she's really, like, we're on the show. Now, Robert also had two siblings. an older sister named Linda and a younger brother named Dave. Now, I guess when Linda was younger, the mom decided, like, to send her away to go live with family or something. Because according to her, she's like, the farm is no place for a girl to be growing up. So Linda gets sent away. Honestly, if I were Linda, I'd be like, thank God.

Farm life? Not for me, baby. So Linda, gone. Bye. Meanwhile, Robert and Dave, they were the ones. who were working alongside their mom, really maintaining the farm, and they would do so, like, before school and after school. It was their whole life and their livelihood, really. So I guess there, uh, the kids, like their dad was around, but I don't know, he just didn't seem to really

be, um, as involved. I don't know, he was giving me kind of like the more passive one in the marriage. Like, there really wasn't much sad about him. Well, Robert growing up, you know, he goes to school and whatnot, and he's really not doing very well. He was a little slow, lower than, you know, the others and was placed in special education classes. And then on top of that, he really struggled to have friends. Also, it didn't help that he was known for not having the best hygiene. Yeah. You know, while working out on the farm, he would get dirty and stuff, as you do. And he would have a certain smell. And people noticed. I guess he didn't bathe often. And, you know, he's people making he's he's he's weird he i don't want to say he's weird he's weird he has a stench so

he was kind he was pretty antisocial and honestly i was reading all that and it was like it sounds like he was just straight up neglected but okay when robert was 12 he got a pet calf at the farm okay now he loved this calf he would rush home every single day after school to go see him i mean this was like his best friend. Well, one day Robert came home, you know, excited to see his calf, but he couldn't find him anywhere. So he's going around asking the family, like, where's my calf? So he was told to go check the barn. Now this made Robert panic because he knew that the barn was a place where animals went to die. Robert told his calf to never go down to that barn. He looked that calf in the face and was like, don't ever go down to that part. But sure enough, you know,

as soon as he walked in, he saw his best friend hanging from the ceiling, gutted, butchered. Tragic. Robert later said like this was the moment where he kind of like, he really kind of understood death. And it was just also devastating. Well, you know, life goes on. And when Robert is 18 years old, some shit goes down. Okay, so, you know, he has a younger brother, Dave. So Dave finally gets his driver's license. So, you know, he's all excited. He's like, yeah, got my driver's license. And one day he goes out for a drive. So Dave is out driving and he ends up like hitting a kid with his car. Now, instead of getting out of the car and being like, hey, you good? He instead flees the same.

he races back home like in a panic he goes straight to his mom he tells his mom everything that happened and he's asking her like what do i do i'm like i don't know maybe call the police and say you accidentally hit someone just a thought i don't know but what do i know so their mom has dave drive she and him back to the scene where they see the kid like lying on the road the mom Dave's in the car still the mom gets out of the car and she ends up rolling the kid to the side of the road and into a water-filled ditch, which I guess was like hard to see from the main road. Then she kind of like dust her hands off and she's like, okay, yeah.

She gets back into the car. She tells Dave to just drive them back home. Yeah. She literally just rolled this poor boy into a ditch and then headed home like nothing. Now, see, I guess Robert technically, like he didn't witness this firsthand, but, he heard about it when the family was talking about it that day. Well, you know, the poor kid, his parents are all worried, looking for him. His body ends up being found and an investigation begins like immediately. It didn't take long for the police to like lead right back to Dave. He

was immediately a suspect. Now everything about this case, like this situation is sealed. I'm assuming because he was underage, so it's not really clear what happened to Dave. But what we do know was that he ended up going to juvenile court, so that's something. But Robert and Dave's mom, she was never charged or arrested for her involvement. So Dave must have, I don't know, I don't know. I was going to say maybe Dave kept his mouth shut about his mom. I would be like, it was my mom. She did that shit, but that's just me, I guess. Now this feels like the first time Robert realized just how far his mom would go for them and that sometimes crime doesn't come with a punishment. And maybe Dave is thinking the same thing too. Looking at you, Dave. So when

Robert was around 28 or like 29, he had a major loss. First, his father passes away. And then just like a year later, his mom passes away. So his mom, she had a will. And in it, said that the three kids, remember, there was Linda, Dave, and Robert, they would split the family money and the land evenly. Now, Robert was named as the one to inherit like the family business, like run the farm essentially, but he wouldn't receive any money from the trust until he turned 40. So it's kind of like, okay, thanks, I guess. I don't know how he's feeling. But the family seemed to be having a bit of a bad run because soon after the parents passed away, the farm somehow caught on fire, again, leading to just like another major loss.

Now, the family farm was completely destroyed. It killed around 600 pigs. Now, luckily, around 100 pigs and like 120 cattle would survive the fire, but like a lot was gone. It's unclear how the fire started, but Robert was the one left to rebuild. This is a side note, in my own personal opinion, but I kind of low-key think that this was done on purpose. for insurance money or something. But we'll talk about that later. Mm-hmm.

Robert rebuilt the farm, and when he was doing that, he decided to make, like, a few changes to the business. So he added more animals, like chickens, rabbits, geese, goats, emu, emu, I'm struggling with emu, emu, animals. And he still had the cattle and the pigs.

I mean, he was a full-on, Old McDonald had a farm kind of guy, okay? Also a new addition to the business, Robert started working with another butcher in town named Pat. So Robert, he would raise, you know, the pigs, and then Pat would come in, buy the pigs, and then they would slaughter and sell the meat. It was a good partnership for them.

It seemed to work. So Robert, he's kind of thriving at this point. Now, his brother, Dave, he was around. He was around. He was working as a demolition contractor for the Greater Van Gogh. Vancouver area. And for bigger jobs, he would call up his brother Robert to like come out and help him. But those were like just their day jobs. Because it was said that Robert and Dave would also indulge in some local insurance fraud. I guess local bikers in the area, they would steal cars and

bikes and then they would give them to Robert or Dave. And since Dave had access to demolition equipment they were able to bury the stolen items once the job was done they would report the cars or whatever you know as missing or stolen and then they would collect the insurance money see this is why i kind of low key think that that farm fire was an insurance thing but that's just my opinion anyways they were shady now they were doing this for like a hot minute but like the police they ended up catching on and they opened an investigation into these thefts which ended up leading them right to Dave. Now Dave, I guess he was brought in and he was questioned, but they didn't have like any, they didn't have like sufficient evidence to make an actual

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Terms and conditions apply. So in 1994, Dave had a big job up in North Vancouver. It was like a 40-minute drive from the farm. So he called up his brother, Robert. He's like, hey, can come out and stay with me and, like, help me out. So Robert agrees. And he goes out there. He sets up his motorhome on the construction site,

so he didn't have to commute. you know so robert would stay on this project with dave for like about a year during this time their sister linda she was like a hot shot realtor now she made the decision to sell off three separate parts of the farm to real estate investors who are looking to build homes now i'm sure it was all communicated to dave and and robert about selling you know uh parts of the the farm but overall, like, it was a good deal because they made over $5 million on that sale and they ended up splitting it evenly, evenly. I mean, it was fine though.

Yes, the farm was smaller now, but they still had about 25 acres to work with, which a lot, you know? Oh, just a little side note, I forgot to mention. When, like, Roberts away, he had people working for him on the farm. So, like, things are still being taken. taken care of while Robert's away and stuff. So it wasn't like he just left it and that was it. So while Robert was staying in North Vancouver, he started to hang out in this area called

the Lod Track and it was in like the downtown east side area of Vancouver. Now the Lod Track was a place where, you know, drugs, poverty, and sex work was very prominent. So Robert, you know, on his free time, he would go hang out at this bar called the Abbey Hotel where he would meet up with some friends. I'm like giving a side-eye because I'm like friends, okay. But he would meet up with some people for drinks, and then he would really go there to engage with the sex workers and see if they'd be willing to go home with him.

He would offer them money for drugs or just drugs in hopes that they would leave with them. So Robert would invite them either back to his motor home, which was like 15 minutes away, or to go back to his farm, which was about 40 men's away, where they could quote, unquote, party more. He did this for years. Then in 1996, Robert and Dave decided to start another business. They thought, hey, idea, why don't we do a non-profit charity?

Yeah. I mean, they had this huge farm with lots of land. They're like, we could open it there. It could be a nonprofit. It could have a mission. Well, according to them, the nonprofit's mission was to, quote, to organize, coordinate, manage and operate special events, functions, dances, shows, and exhibitions on behalf of service organizations, sports organizations, and other worthy groups, end quote.

And they're like, great, like, what do we call it? They decided to call it the Piggy Pallet. Good Time Society. It just really rolls off the tongue. Piggy Palace Good Time Society. It honestly sounds like a good pizza place, right? I'm going down to the Piggy Palace to get some good pizza. Actually, after today's story, that's bad, that's bad because he...

Never mind. But it sounds like pizza. Great, Bailey. Well, unfortunately, this was no charity. This was no nonprofit. Instead, it was actually, well, it was really a front to cover up the illegal bar they set up in one of the slaughterhouses. Yeah, beer and slaughter. So, yay.

The Piggy Palace, though, very popular. They had wild raves. There was extreme debauchery going on. Dave, remember the brother? Yeah, he was like great friends with the Hells Angels. a notorious biker gang with a reputation for violence, loyalty, and running illegal enterprises worldwide. Yeah, he's friends with them. So he decided to hire some of the members as security at the Piggy Palace. Now, some people believe that Dave was actually a member himself, but that's never been

confirmed. But they would throw these wild parties, Robert and Pat, the butcher guy. They were there at these parties, they'd be cutting up meat, barbecuing. It sounds like a good time, kind of, not really. Kind of. Anyways, people loved it there. It was said that on any given night, there would be up to like 2,000 people who would show up. Yeah, huge, right? It was a well-known party spot. So the Piggy Palace really seemed to be the place to go to do, like, illegal and questionable activities. but regardless or because of this you know it was very popular so popular that off-duty cops and city officials were regular attendees at the piggy palace oh yes oh yes i wish i could give you names but it was like it's so hard to actually find names it's just people were like yeah i saw that guy's a cop there or whatever you know

Even though Robert didn't have any issues with the cops at the Piggy Palace, he did make several decisions that eventually made him a person worth looking into. You see, in March of 1997, Robert, he went over to the low track area and he offered a sex worker named Wendy drugs and $100 to go out to the farm with him, you know, and she accepted. So they drive out there and when they get to the property, they head to his trailer. When Wendy gets inside of the trailer, she, like, is looking around and she notices that there is a sleeping bag on the floor and a large roll of, like, clear plastic next to it. She's like, love your decor. That's cool. Okay.

They do the deed. Wendy gets her money. Then she heads to the bathroom. When she comes out, she asks Robert if she could use his phone. And he's like, sure, here. So Wendy, she's on the phone, and she notices that Robert is like coming towards her. She's like, um, what? Robert then tries to slip a handcuff on her wrist.

So she's like, what the fuck? No. And she immediately starts to fight back. So there was a struggle. They were like wrestling and fighting and like going back and forth, kind of making their way into the kitchen area. So when they're in the kitchen area, she notices a knife. She grabs a knife. She starts slashing at Robert. She stabs him in the arm and then she slashes his face from ear to ear. Then go for her. Then she gets them good because the knife, she stabs him. The knife

ends up like chipping a bunch of his teeth as it went through his face. She's just going. So then she tries to make a run for it. But Robert somehow grabs her. And then according to Wendy, like things really just kind of got fuzzy here. But she does remember that they somehow ended up outside the trailer, now fighting by Robert's truck. So at this point, Wendy is, she still has the knife. It's in her hand. And according to her, she just stabbed him, stabbed him right in the back.

And then he went down. So she's like, oh shit, you know, she needs to like get help. So she runs to the nearest house, knocking on the door, no one answers. Then she sees a car coming down the road. So she runs out and she like flags them down. It was like an older couple that was driving the car. And they agreed to take her to the hospital. But before they drive off, Wendy points to the trailer and she tells them that, like, look, if I die,

the man that killed me lives in that trailer. And then they drive off. So at some point during this whole fight, Robert, was able to stab Wendy. Like she had noticed she was bleeding from like her stomach area. She doesn't know like when it happened, but she knew she was bleeding. So the couple that picked her up, they take her to the hospital. When she gets here, she's, you know, taken back to go into like surgery.

And the couple that took her to the hospital, they tell the staff that there was a man back at the location who was also hurt. So this part honestly was like a little confusing because somebody goes. back to Robert's place and picks him up and brings him to the hospital. I'm thinking maybe, is that like free health care? Because in America, people would be like, so? Anyways, but Robert, I guess, is picked up by an ambulance or something and is brought to the hospital.

He's given like 150 stitches, and then he was released. Yeah. I was like, that's nice. He was released, and I know what you're thinking, you're like, why the hell wasn't he arrested? And honestly, couldn't quite find. a clear answer. I think my assumption is that the police had to wait for a statement from Wendy and at this point she was like undergoing surgery, she was not fully there. But it's unclear

why Robert was just sent home. So all this happens, Robert is released and word gets back to Robert's brother, Dave, about the, you know, what happened. So Dave calls up and old, like, family friend. Her name is Lisa. Dave asked Lisa to stay at the farm and take care of Robert while he was healing. And in return, Dave said that he would pay for her car insurance and like help her out or whatever, you know? So Lisa agrees and she moves in, she goes to the farm, she moves in for a bit and she's staying like in Robert's trailer. So Robert is back at the farm, you know, he's down and Lisa's there. And Lisa, she starts looking around. maybe like snooping a little bit i don't know she's just like looking around as you do when you're in

someone else's house maybe i don't know but she's looking around and she starts like noticing some odd things first she like came across a bunch of IDs okay like ID cards and they belong to like a bunch of different women and she's like okay like that's weird then she found a bunch of different women's clothing. She's like, okay, also weird. Then she, like, looked a little closer. On some of the clothing, she noticed some of them had blood all over them. I don't know about you, but I would be out the door. I'd be like, okay, thank you so much for your time. Bye. She takes note, okay? She's like, she takes note. Well, Robert, I guess he's like high on pain pills. He starts talking to Lisa. He's like saying some weird off-the-wall things. He's like, he was going on

about how he wanted to finish off Wendy. Then Robert asked Lisa to get him some syringes. He specifically asked her to get half clean ones and half already used ones. Now, Lisa saw this as like a big red flag for many reasons, but one that stood out the most, I guess, was that he was asking for syringes and she knew he wasn't a drug user. So she's like, why do you need those? Yeah, I know. You think it would be the blood on the clothes?

But no, it was the syringes. Now, Lisa, she didn't go to police or anything, you know. Instead, she ends up telling a mutual friend, this guy, he worked on the Picton farm. His name was Bill. So she goes to Bill, and she tells them, like, she's like, lokey, I think Robert could be a serial killer. Okay, she's like the IDs, the bloodstained clothing, the syringes. What is he like poisoning people or something? She's telling this to Bill.

Well, 17 days after the attack, Wendy, she luckily survived and she told the police everything. So finally, Robert was arrested and charged for attempted murder, unlawful confinement, and aggravated assault. Now remember, the Picton family, they had money. So he was able to hire the best criminal defense attorney in. Vancouver. But when it came time for the trial to start in January of 1998, Wendy didn't show up. So without an accuser, the judge was forced to drop all of the charges. The police did keep like the clothes and the rubber boots that he was wearing when he attacked Wendy and they kept that in evidence, which good thing they did because it comes in handy later.

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like pickup location for sex workers, but also I guess they had really great drugs, but he goes there. So on that night in April of 1998, Sarah and her friend, they were strolling the area looking for dates. So the friend, Sarah's friend, was picked up by a John and like they took off. So she's like telling Sarah like, I'll see you later, whatever, you know. The friend comes back and when she gets back to the crack shack area, she notices that Sarah was like nowhere to be found. Now that's fine normally because it's like maybe she got picked up, whatever, but it was odd because she noticed that Sarah's purse was still there. Now, you know, you never leave your purse behind. So she just kind of waited around and Sarah just never showed up. So after like some time goes by and Sarah is a

no show, her ex-boyfriend and some friends and family, they went to the police and reported her missing. So the police just like straight up told them that they wouldn't open an investigation because she was just like the latest in a string of missing sex workers and that like, you know, they usually show back up and it's really not a big deal. The police. like completely brushed it off. Well, time is still going by and Sarah, you know, she's still missing. So her ex-boyfriend ends up reaching out to a journalist named Lindsay Kines, who was writing articles about missing sex workers in the area. This guy was the only one reporting it, it seemed like. So Sarah's ex-boyfriend reaches out to the journalist and Lindsay Kines, a

journalist decided to write an article about the situation and called out the police for not taking these disappearances seriously. The journalist was like passionate about getting this news out to the public and really demanding for the police to step up and do their job. In July of like 1998, like the first article about the situation was published and then it ended up turning into an 11-part series. And in the articles, they also put a hospital. line number where people could reach out, give tips, or just report more missing women. So this journalist was like really trying to actually do something because obviously the police were not. Okay, so do you remember Lisa? Huh? Do you? Okay. Well, she was the lady friend who was

staying with Robert and found all those questionable items. And then she went to Bill and told him all about it. Her? Yeah. Yeah. Bill reads one of those articles and he decides to get in contact with Sarah's ex-boyfriend to share what he knew. I know what you're thinking, why didn't Bill just call the hotline or go to the police or something like that, you know, or why didn't Lisa go to the police? You have to understand. A lot of them were involved with drugs or sex work and they didn't want to go to police and fear that they would get in trouble themselves.

So they were all talking with each other in hopes someone else would maybe go forward, you know? So Bill contacts Sarah's ex and tells him everything that Lisa saw, the bloody clothes, the IDs, the syringes, everything. Then went on to say that Robert often visited the low track to pick up women. But most of all, Robert had like this really big farm and Bill's like it would be very easy to hide things there like people. You know what I'm saying? Bill actually tells Sarah's ex that he did try to contact police at some point, but he was told that there was nothing they, the police, could do.

So Bill gave Sarah's ex Robert Pickton's name and the name of his businesses, the farm, everything, in hopes that maybe, you know, he could help or do something. So Sarah's ex ends up contacting Vancouver Police, tells them everything that Bill said, well technically he was recording the whole conversation so he actually gives on the recording and the police they tried to follow up with bill for months like they they tried but he bill had addiction issues of his own and he was really hard to track down so it definitely slowed things down but there weren't two vancouver police department investigators who were actually like paying attention to all these disappearances. At this point in 1998, in the Vancouver area,

there were about 35 missing women on their list. So they were really thinking like a serial killer was in the area. So they brought on deputy inspector Kim Rosmo to help, who was like very well known for his work in criminal profiling. So Kim Rosmo helped put together a computer program called Riegel. Now Riegel, like analyzed crime details. It calculated the chances the crimes were linked and even identified potential suspects or serial offenders. And it turned out to be a very powerful tool. But at this time, it was 1998, okay? And technology like this was new. And a lot of the higher ups at the like Vancouver Police Department, they did not like or trust this new guy. Inspector Rosimo coming in with his little computer program and like telling them what to do.

I know. It sounds like such a freaking joke, but it's true. So the police just didn't use this tool. Later on, one of the investigators that asked for Inspector Rosmo's help said, quote, Picton would have been in jail and all those women would have been saved, end quote. Had the higher ups like taken him, Rosmo, or the case seriously. In September of 1998, another article by Lindsay Kines came out about the missing women. And again, once again, was going in hard, calling out the police for not doing anything.

Now, people in the area who are reading the article, they're becoming outrage, they're demanding that the police step up, that they do something. And honestly, like those articles, they really generated a lot of buzz and actually caught the attention of the, television program America's Most Wanted, and they did a full-on episode about the missing women. They also offered like a $100,000 reward for information about the case. So this was good for the victims' families and whatnot. Like at least someone is helping or trying to help talking about it, right? Well, the Vancouver police, they're a little like annoyed and upset and they couldn't handle the negative PR anymore, so they were like, fine, we'll do something. It was said that before these articles came out, there was this unspoken rule amongst the police departments, you know,

that sex workers and lower class people were disposable and it was suggested to not waste resources on them, allegedly. But I'm sure we believe that because they did. nothing. Well, now Inspector Rosmo was confident that, like, his technology could actually help catch this person, right? So he shared his findings with the police department, but they completely dismissed him. On top of that, he was pretty much fired. He was let go. Well, technically, his contract didn't get renewed, but he knew why. So Inspector Rosmo was, he was just trying to help. I don't know, maybe even like do his job, right? Luckily, there were some in the police department that were like still taking this seriously.

And in May of 1999, the Vancouver Police Department organized a group who were dedicated to review the growing number of disappearances of women in the area. And this like dedicated team to the case, they were called or it was called Project Amelia. So Project Amelia was able to get. gather a lot of DNA, information about the missing women, and even received tips mentioning Robert Pickedon by name. So the police, I mean, they did take this seriously, and they followed Robert. They followed him around for about like two weeks,

but they saw no unusual activity or much of anything. Plus, at this time, they had no witness statements or anyone coming forward. words, so it was just kind of like they didn't really, they couldn't do anything. Over in Port Coquitlam, officers also had like Robert on their radar, but without, again, anyone coming forward, anyone accusing him of anything, there was nothing they could do. So things just went cold and everything was at a standstill. But in the year 2000, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police,

aka the Mounties they got a hot tip so Robert he had a lot of like on again off again girlfriends I didn't mention them um because all the names get confusing I mean for for me at least but one of his like on again off again girlfriends was a woman named Lynn so Lynn she went to the Mounties and she told them everything she knew Lynn told them that she actually lived with Robert for a few months in 1999, that they slept together, she cleaned his trailer, he'd supply her with drugs, and occasionally the two of them would go out and pick up sex workers

to bring back to the farm. She said that there was this one night where she and Robert, they went to New Westminster, and they picked up a sex worker. When they got back to the farm, the woman and Robert went to the train. to have um sexual relations so lynn i guess she was out in the living room she's just kind of waiting and she starts to doze off she said all of a sudden she was woken up by like a super loud noise

and there was like this very bright light coming from the barn outside on the property so she's you know like what is going on so she gets up and she goes to check it out she said that that she walked into the barn and that she was immediately hit with like a terrible smell. Okay. So she's like, hmm. Then she kind of like looks directly, you know, directly in front of her. And she realizes that she's staring at someone's toes. So she's trying to like process what am I looking at?

And she looks up and she sees that it's someone, it's. freaking body or something someone's legs are dangling from the ceiling mm-mm-mm what's that one meme no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no so lyn she's like oh my god what the fuck you know so she's she screams obviously she's in total shock robert he's in there he pulls her like further in into the barn and he closes the door Lynn said that she, she like looked around. She's like looking around, right? And she notices that on the table, it was covered in blood and there were like dark clumps of hair on it.

She's like, what the fuck? She looks at Robert and she realizes that he is covered in blood as well. No, no, no, no. That's all I can think of. My brain just went there. Poor Lynn. Lynn said she was completely frozen. She's trying to comprehend what the hell am I seeing right now.

you know but she knew that this person that was hanging was the woman that they had just brought back to the farm because she recognized the red toenail polish trauma oh gosh so i guess robert he's like trying to calm her down and he tells her quote she's just like a pig anyways it's all right, it's going to be all right, end quote. Um, okay. Robert then threatened her by saying, like, if you say a word to anybody or do anything, you will be right beside her. So Lynn, freak the F out. She just wants to get, she wants to get out of there, but he, like, won't let her out of his sight.

Eventually, though, he ends up calling her a cab. He gave her $100 so she could buy drugs and liquor, and then told her that he, he would pick her up the next day. When this originally happened, it messed Lynn up. Like she ended up fleeing the area. She went off the radar for a bit and she was, she was gone. But finally, she wanted to come forward and report her experience. And this was like, great. This is exactly what they needed, right? Well, unfortunately, something happened. Personally, I think Lynn was threatened by someone because she ended up going back and recanting her statement saying that she made it up.

Ugh, no. The Mounties, I guess they did question Robert, but like he didn't say a peep. And without Lynn's statement, they had nothing. And once again, like they were back at square one. Managing money can feel like a full-time job. You know, you should be taking control, but every time you check your accounts, it's like, oh, what? Forgotten subscriptions, surprise charges, confusing bills. You're like, wait, what will happen?

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status and they were formally disbanded for failing to file required financial statements so they had to shut down so like with this loss of income from the parties or whatever the if they were doing Robert, Dave, and their sister, Linda, ended up selling more of the farmland, and they invested in rental properties. Well, over in Vancouver, the police department, they were making no progress. They were very high and mighty telling everyone there was no serial killer in the area. Like, shut up, you guys, get over it. But the public, they didn't believe them.

They did not believe them. That internal team called Project Amelia, they completed their case review saying that there were now 45 missing sex workers from the low track area. So like the number was growing. Or someone just wasn't being honest about the number. Either way, 45 women. So naturally, our favorite journalist, Lindsay Kinds, put out another article about the missing women and like actually giving a, a full number based off of that report and the public again put more and more pressure on the Vancouver police to do something so the police decided to actually invest more resources into the

investigations and started to work with other departments and agencies finally so the Vancouver Police Department they ended up interviewing 130 sex workers in the area and they asked the women like, hey, have you ever had a bad date experience? Or like a John, a man who just really scared, scared them. You know, they were looking for a pattern, a name that was repeated over and over again. And throughout the interviews, Robert's name did not really come up. But you know whose name did come up? his brother Dave isn't that weird yeah and it wasn't just like one time it was a handful of times you know what's even more weird they kept getting the name Dave Picton and you know

what's the most weirdest thing of all he was never brought in for questioning that we know of now tell me what that's about now he was said that this is what like got the Picton name on their radar again. But I could sit here forever going like this because why wasn't Dave brought in? Just a little weird, isn't it? Anyway, so the Picton name is on their radar again. So in late 2001, once again,

police finally got the information that they needed, solid information on Robert Picton. a former employee who like I guess yeah who worked on the farm for Robert he shared with the police that he Robert had several unregistered and illegal firearms on his property and with this information police were finally able to get a search warrant for the farm I know because I was like so it wasn't the other allegations and stuff that was mentioned. It's the firearms. But okay, fine. Like, it's movement. It's movement. But at least now they got their in. They finally got a warrant. While filing the warrant request, the investigator from Port Coquitlam, PD, they saw a note on

Robert's file saying to contact Vancouver Police if anything came up. Yeah, so this little note and all that connected all the investigating police departments for the very first time. because this entire time, they were not talking to each other, these departments, because Vancouver had their own police, court court, they had their own police, New Westminster, the Mounties, like none of them were talking to each other. I know. Very frustrating. So on February 5th, 2002, police were finally able to search Robert Pitten's farm. Thank God. So he was arrested. Did I mention that?

Well, he was arrested. Okay, so he was taken away. Now they're able to like search his farm. Mind you, it's huge property. So they look in his trailer and they see, you know, this is where he had been like living majority of the time. They found handcuffs, zip ties, a paper that had like a list of women's names on it. They found women's clothing, purses, illegal guns. sex toys. And based off the images I saw, I was like, it was dirty. Never seen a duster before.

Like, that place has never been dusted. And then they found a very questionable item. It was a Weston 22 revolver, okay, with a curved plastic dildo covering the barrel. I was like, um, what Robert said? He used it as a silencer. Yeah, I was like, uh, points for creativity, I guess. Oh, God. My nasty brain, and maybe your nasty brain went there too. I was thinking, did he insert it and then shoot it? I don't know. I don't.

Anyo. So also in Roberts' trailer, police found an inhaler. And this inhaler belonged to a woman named Serena, who had just recently disappeared from Vancouver. Now, this discovery was like the missing link that allowed the Vancouver police. to now join the search at the Picton Farms for their own investigation. So again, Robert was arrested and he was being charged with storing a firearm, possession of a firearm without a license, and possession of a loaded, restricted firearm without a license. And I was like, yay, finally. But don't get too excited. Because literally,

like, the next afternoon, Robert, was released on bail. Yeah. Remember, this family, the Picton family, they actually had money. Yeah, they act like trash, but they had, they had the cash,

and they bailed his ass out. Mm, mm. So they bailed him out, and Robert was not allowed back at the farm because now it was considered a crime scene. So he ended up staying with his brother Dave, which was just like right down the road. Now I guess, like, for police,

searching the Picton farm was very difficult and taxing. Now, at this point, it was 17 acres. There were live animals that still needed to be cared for. And I guess there were like a bunch of dead animals all over the property. So the task force, they like used heavy machinery to, I tried to like explain it in a way that made sense, but they pretty much like tear it up the ground. Then they ran the dirt through like a huge conveyor belt. and screening machine, sifting for any trace of evidence that they could find.

But it was a lot. It was a lot of work. Police collected a lot of DNA from Robert's trailer and just all around the property. Now, it wasn't just like female DNA. No, oh, no. They found about like 40 male DNA samples as well. There's a lot of shit going on. Now, there was one specific DNA sample that led to Robert.

re-arrest. So on February 22nd, this was 17 days after his initial arrest, police found DNA in his trailer from a woman who again had recently disappeared. Remember, they found that inhaler from a missing woman, but finding DNA was like the concrete proof that they needed. Because an inhaler, they can be like, well, you know, maybe she left it here or whatever, but DNA, blood, Something like that, you know? They arrest Robert that day and they put him in like a holding cell, okay? But the police, they knew he's a tricky man, a quiet man, slick man. And police needed to get some kind of confession out of him.

So they put Robert in a jail cell and in the same cell they brought in an undercover cop acting as an inmate. now his job the undercover cop was to strike up a conversation with robert and like get him talking bond a little bit you know in hopes to get like a confession meanwhile their whole interaction was being recorded so after some shooting the shit kind of talk you know for several hours robert started to open up like bragging about his crimes oh yes So on the hidden recording, Robert admitted to killing 49 women and said his only regret was that he didn't make it to 50. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The task force continued to search the farm. So when they were searching, they found human bones, flesh, hair, teeth, skin, nails. That's not all.

They found body parts in some of the freezers where the pork was stored and several heads that had been sawed in half. Yeah, I don't know what they were doing. I don't know. Even more disturbing, kind of. Yeah. Yeah. All of it's disturbing. The police found three bags full of ground meat that had human remains mixed into it.

Yeah, I know. Was he selling it? Did he eat it? Was he eating it? Did his partner, butcher, Pat, know about this? Was he involved? I had so many questions. So many questions.

There was also evidence that some pigs on the farm may have consumed human remains, given that the bodies, the bodies they found, were, like, left in the areas where the pigs ate their food. And rumor has it, pigs eat anything. I thought pigs are picky, and they are not. They will eat you right up. Now, unfortunately, some of the DNA samples didn't provide enough evidence to be added to, like, his charge list. But in the end, though, Robert was charged with 27 counts of first-degree murder. And his dumbass pled not guilty to all counts.

He's like, it was the pigs. It wasn't me. So he's sitting in jail waiting and, like, five years go by. Finally, his trial starts. It's in January of 2007. So this time, they were able to bring in some key witnesses. His ex-girlfriend Lynn, remember her, who saw the body in the barn. And also his partner, Butcher, Pat. Now get this, both of them, Lynn and Pat, they were both originally arrested for their involvement with the murders as well. But both of them took police. deals and testified against Robert. I know. I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so were they involved and they were just taking the plea deal? Well, most of all, I was like, what about Dave, though? Where's Dave or Linda, the sister? I don't know if she was involved or anything, but like something's going on, right? So in court it came out that over 80 different

DNA samples were discovered, like, um, at the, at the, at the, at the scene, including some DNA, uh, from the rubber boots collected from Robert's fight with Wendy, his sole survivor. Yeah, remember I told you that would come in handy. Robert's defense lawyers claimed that the farm was like a, a beehive of activity, that other persons unknown and known used Robert's place to kill the women without him being involved. And that would explain why there was so much DNA found at the farm, both male and female. His defense also said that, you know, Robert's intelligence very low. So his confession was just made up and that he was just trying to impress his cellmate. Robert's team, they, you know,

cross-examined Lynn and they questioned like why she took her her statement, her original statement, back when she first shared it with the mountains and they're giving her a hard time about that and lynn told the court like that she feared for her life but now that robert had been arrested she felt safe telling the story or sharing her experience and she was sticking with it so on december 9th 2007, Mr. Robert Picton, he was found guilty of six counts of second-degree murder. Even though he was charged with six counts of first-degree murder. I know. I was like, wait, what?

Huh? Huh? Why second? See, in Canada, the difference between, like, first-degree and second-degree murder comes down to how much planning was involved. First-degree is, like, premeditated, carefully-plicated. planned out, while second degree is more spontaneous, more like a crime of opportunity. Regardless, Robert received a sentence of 25 years to life.

About down time. Look, in 2010, Robert's lawyers, they felt that his conviction was the result of an unfair trial, and they filed for an appeal. It went to the Supreme Court of Canada, and they were like, no, dude. They ruled that the conviction still stood. There was a lot more like nitty-gritty detail there, but like at the end of the day, everything stood still. Or still stood. You get it. Now, once the trial was over the Vancouver Police Department, they had problems of their own. Because an investigation was opened regarding their handling of this entire case. I mean, obviously, they freaking blew it. Right? How they handled everything? The lieutenant governor and counsel. ordered an inquiry, and in 2012, when the report was done, and they realized that the police department seriously dropped the freaking ball, it led to 63 recommendations for improvement to

ensure this never happens again. Have they applied these 63 recommendations since then? I hope so, but, you know, let's be real here. I don't know. I want to think yes, but, you know, hopefully so where are they now well robert was kept in a maximum security prison and just last year in may of 2024 yeah i was like what he was attacked by another inmate left him in a coma and then robert picked and he died on may 30th 2024 wow his brother Dave, I was looking at you, Dave. I was looking at you, Googling you, trying to find out everything I could about you, because something ain't right with you, Dave. Dave, in my personal opinion, literally got away with everything, is still living and working in the greater Vancouver

area, running a demolition business. His sister, Linda, remember Linda? Yeah, not much is known about her. Obviously. She really seemed to like stay out of everything. I just get a, don't you get a little like, um, feeling? I don't know. Maybe it's just me. After all of this though, so after Robert was convicted and everything, Linda and Dave, they actually sued the city and the police for not receiving money to repair damages made to the farm during their search. I was like, get the fuck over it. They also, in the end, like sold off most of the farm and now there are homes and commercial properties on the land. I did it a little Google Street View and I was like, ugh, cute little house on an area where there were bodies and stuff. Okay, that's fine though.

So some of the families of the victims, they actually banded together to sue the city, provincial and federal governments, as well as the RCMP and Vancouver Police, plus Robert's siblings. The families believe that the siblings had to know what Robert was doing. They just felt they had to know. But without any like physical proof, the siblings, they were dropped from the lawsuit. But, you know, all the government and the police and all that, they still were being sued. And the case ended up settling in the victims, their families. families did receive compensation.

It doesn't bring the victims back, but, you know, it's a small, like, accountability win, I guess. I don't know. In a wild turn of events, Robert's ex-girlfriend, Lynn, who testified against him in court, well, she ended up getting convicted and, like, sentenced to 12-month suspension for threatening her boss and her boss's family on, like, numerous occasions in a October of 2022. And the only reason I bring that up is because there was rumors that Lynn was involved with the situation that was going down on Robert's farm, but also because during this situation, she left a voicemail to her target saying, quote, you know what, you stupid bitch, we're going to raise pigs and you

you're going to be the first one I feed to the pigs you got it end quote and that to me was like oh shit was she was she was she you know what I'm saying Anywho that my friends is

the story of Robert Picton I'm just now realizing everyone knows him as Willie and I've been calling him Robert this whole time So if you're confused there, sorry about that. But yeah. Anyways, my thoughts here, look, listen, and this is all my personal thoughts. I personally feel like Robert did not work alone. There was lots of male DNA found on the property.

Yes, they held lots of parties and that piggy palace or whatever. So, yeah, there would be a lot of DNA there in general. But like, there was male, like, blood found on some of the, objects. I just think a lot more people were involved. And Robert did not work alone, in my opinion. More people had to know what was going on. I think people were doing bad things, knowing that they could go to the Picton farm and easily get rid of people or have Robert get rid of people. Like there was some kind of deal going on like that. Do you know what I'm saying? Some people say that Dave, the brother, he was like a member of the hell.

Angels. So what if in my imaginative brain, like what if the Hells Angels were like, hey, I need you to get rid of a guy? You know, and Dave's like, oh yeah, I got a farm. Like, don't worry. Robert will take care of it. Willie or whatever. Do you know what I'm saying? Like a deal like that. Again, Dave was named by sex workers as being aggressive and scary, that he would intimidate people if they spoke up about things going on at the farm. He threatened to like rape people, get rid of people. I searched high and low as to why Dave wasn't brought in for questioning by police at all. So this made me think that the off-duty police, you know, the police officers, the city officials that hung out at the farm and the higher-ups, they were all protecting his ass

because if he got arrested, he was going to rat on everyone. I would bet money. That's probably why he wasn't brought in because he was Dave was probably like oh you want to arrest me well I'll name all you bitches and you're all going to come down with me in my in my opinion thank you just have to make that clear plus Dave had that demolition company you don't think he could hide bodies I bet you there are bodies under those houses that they built on the property I bet you there are bodies everywhere who knows plus another thing I was thinking about was remember Robert he was slower, you know? Maybe like, maybe Dave just, I'm not saying Robert was like a good person and didn't do anything bad. He did bad things. Okay. But maybe Dave also was taking advantage of that a little bit. I don't know. Let's say Dave was like he killed someone in, in my fake story. And then he would go to Robert and be like, hey, I need you to handle this. Thanks. Get rid of this. You know? I don't know. Something about this whole story made me feel like Robert was the go-to guy.

to like handle things. Do you know what I'm saying? Like you go to him and you be like, handle it. And then he would. He was still a bad guy doing his own like shitty stuff too, but I don't think it was just him. And then plus having the hell's angels on your side, I bet the pictons felt like they were untouchable

and they kind of were. And then obviously if the police departments actually did their job and cared about the missing women in general, you know, maybe, just maybe a lot of the decisions. disappearances could have been prevented. Not even maybe, probably. I was over here, naive, I guess, thinking that police in Canada are,

they're probably so much better and actually, like, do their job. But in the end, I'm like, shit, they're all the same. The story of Robert Picton is an awful reminder of how many systems failed the victims long before he ever laid a hand on them and how the most vulnerable are often the, easiest to overlook. And at the end of the day, they all deserved better. And something bigger's going on too. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with me today. I hope you have a wonderful

rest of your day. You make good choices. Be safe out there. And I'll be seeing you guys later. Goodbye. Thank you.