Murder, Mystery & Makeup - The World’s WORST KIllers: 4+ Bingeworthy Hours of True Crime

Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Some of you guys say you like falling asleep to my videos, so I decided to do something special for you and put together a compilation of episodes over three hours long that has a very murder mystery theme. Today's compilation is all about the most notorious serial killers. This one kind of speaks for itself, huh? There are killers out there, and then there are some so infamous and horrible
Starting point is 00:00:57 that they just become household names. In today's episode, we'll be talking about the OG clown killer, or killer clown, I should say, remember, John Wayne Gasey. Then we have Jeffrey Dahmer. Yep, we know, we know. Then we have Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, the BTK killer. I'm telling you, today's episode is all about the most notorious serial killers. And maybe some of the details might be new to you. Well, I will shut up and let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Thank you for listening. Okay, Jeff, Jeffrey, Mr. Dahmer. Let's go back. Back to the beginning. So Jeffrey was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I would definitely say, and maybe you can agree, at least if you're from the United States, when you hear Milwaukee, I'm sorry, but we think of Jeffrey Dahmer. A lot of us do, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:02 That's where he was born, May 21st, 1960. It has been claimed that Jeff was deprived of attention as an infant, but other sources suggest that the family was super close and gave lots of love and attention to Jeff, and that they were like this perfect little family. But when you kind of look up just how the family was growing up for Jeffrey, It seems like each family member had something else to say. Like the mom and the dad both apparently had different experiences.
Starting point is 00:02:32 They thought it was, everything was great, fine and dandy. The kids were like, this was a very toxic household. They were fighting all the time. Now Jeff would say that his mother was very tense. She was greedy. She constantly wanted attention and was always in arguments with her husband. When he entered first grade, his mother, her name is Joyce,
Starting point is 00:02:53 she wasn't doing well. well. She spent a lot of her time in bed and she was struggling with depression. She also was feeling very weak and tired all the time. She didn't seem to want to give any type of attention towards her kids, which is sad. And then Jeff's father, he spent a lot of time away from home. He was attending university so he could get a degree in chemistry. He was a really smart cookie. So he wasn't around a lot because he was trying to get a degree so he could get a good job and take care of the family and honestly, just you know how it goes. If you're going to school and a parent, it's just a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Now it said when Jeff's dad was home, his wife demanded constant attention from him. He really didn't get to spend a lot of time with his children. Jeff recalled his early years of family life as being extremely tense because he would see his mother and father constantly arguing with one another. And then sadly, on one occasion, Joyce, the mom, She attempted suicide.
Starting point is 00:03:54 She survived, but neither parent really devoted much time to their son. Now, Jeff was described as being a happy, energetic child up until the age of four. And I guess at the age of four, he had to go in and have surgery to correct a double hernia. It said after that surgery is when he seemed to change.
Starting point is 00:04:17 He just wasn't the same. He wasn't as happy. He seemed to kind of just be meh. At elementary school, he was both quiet and pretty timid on his first grade report card. One teacher described Jeffrey as a reserved child. This teacher did note that she felt like he was being neglected at home, but like nothing really came from it. It was just kind of noted in the paperwork. So from an early age, Mr. Dahmer, he had an interest in dead animals.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm sorry, dead animals. I don't know why he said it like that. Now friends would say that initially he would collect large insects like dragonflies and butterflies and he would place these inside of jars and then he upgraded to collecting roadkill off the streets. So a big jump, we went from butterflies, dragonflies to roadkill. But Jeffrey would say, you know, he was a very curious cat, okay? Roadkill was an easy way to kind of, they're already dead, you know, so he's like, I'm just going to take these dead animals, take them back to the house. There was a little, a woodshed in the backyard.
Starting point is 00:05:23 He would dismember the animals. His reason was that he was curious as to like what was inside of these animals. What did it look like? He wanted to know. So he would dissect animals. He would put them in mason jars. And he would either leave them in the tool shed or he would just leave them in the wooded area in their backyard. So he'd go back there.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Sometimes he would dismember animals back. there so nobody would see him obviously and sometimes he would just go there to kind of leave the stuff he knew he couldn't leave in the tool shed but god that had probably had a stink right all i can think about like how bad he probably smelled which is mean is it no because it's probably true he probably stunk sir you stink you smell like roadkill you know like now jeff would tell his friends that he was just curious how all of these animals fit together oh i am so sorry I forgot to add a disclaimer. Disclaimer, this includes just a lot of awful things
Starting point is 00:06:26 and right now I'm about to talk about a dog. So if any of this bothers you or makes you uncomfortable, please exit out of the video. There will always be next week. Today's episode includes just everything, rape, murder, sexual assault, just all bad and animals as well. So I so greatly apologize.
Starting point is 00:06:46 So there was one occasion that at least we know of. there was a dog that got hit by a car and it was left on the side of the street. So Jeff was like, hey, cool, like a dog. I'm gonna go get it. So he goes and he gets the dog. He brings it back with him to the house. Now he goes back into the like the tool shed area
Starting point is 00:07:03 or his backyard. He doesn't bring it into his actual like family house. And at this time like his parents weren't home so he could get away with these things I guess without getting caught. Anyway, so he takes this dog. He cuts the head off of the dog And then he decides to nail the dog's body to a tree.
Starting point is 00:07:24 He then took the dog's skull. He cleaned it up, okay? So he got all of the dog hair off and stuff. He took it out to the wooded area behind his home. He put the skull on a wooden cross, kind of through the skull. Do you know what I'm saying? I don't know what he was doing, you guys.
Starting point is 00:07:41 He was just doing it. Jeez. So in 1966, the family ended up moving to Doylestown, Ohio, And during this time Joyce, Jeff's mom, she was pregnant with their second child and she gave birth to a baby boy and she allowed Jeffrey to pick out the name
Starting point is 00:08:01 of his new brother. So he picked the name David. And then in 1968, the family moved to Bath, Ohio. Two years later, over a family dinner, they were eating chicken. Jeff asked his father what would happen if the bones of the chicken were to be placed in bleach solution.
Starting point is 00:08:21 And at this time his father was, he was kind of worried for his son because he wasn't very social, he didn't seem to have many friends, he could tell his son was just awkward and weird. But when Jeff asked this question, his father said that he was delighted at the initiative displayed by his son
Starting point is 00:08:38 towards what he believed to be scientific curiosity. He willingly showed his son how to safely bleach and later preserve animal His dad, Jeff's dad, was thinking, you know, father's son bonding time. I'm showing my son how to do what I do essentially, like, or what I know best because he was a chemist. And he thought Jeff was just showing interest in his profession, which he was, essentially. So during high school, many of his classmates said that he would bring beer or hard liquor to school. He would smuggle it inside the lining of his jacket, and then he would hide it in his locker.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Jeff would drink before, during, and then sometimes even after school. And this all started when he was 14 years old. Now when Jeff reached puberty, that's when it said that he discovered that he was gay. He didn't tell his parents about this because, I mean, they didn't even have the best relationship. Why would he tell his parents? But it said that he did engage in a brief relationship with another boy. Jeff said that's when he began to sexually fantasize about dominating and control. a submissive male partner.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And he just started, you know, teenage boys. I hear that they just are like really horny, which is gross. I shouldn't say that. But like, that's what I hear. And that's where he was at in life. Hey, being an adult, wild, huh? You're just sitting, waiting for the next curveball. You know, you're like, everything's good.
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Starting point is 00:12:21 He wasn't doing well. And he said it was because of the alcohol. Well, no shit. So sorry, I needed to get my hair out of my way. It was just annoying me. So during this time, also, his parents, their relationship was just getting worse. And they were going to try counseling, marriage counseling, to try and save their marriage because, you know, they wasn't looking too good for them. Marriage counseling
Starting point is 00:12:44 didn't work for them and they decided to just get a divorce. Jeff's dad thought it would be best if he moved out of the home. And then in May of 1978, Jeff graduated from high school and shortly after Joyce, she was awarded custody of her younger son. She ended up vacating the family residence or the family home and she moved in with family members. of hers, she left Jeff by himself at the family home. So he was living there by himself for a minute, which not good. I mean, he's 18.
Starting point is 00:13:21 What do you think if you leave an 18 year old at the home by himself, what do you think he's gonna do? Do you think he's gonna be productive? Yeah? No. Jeff had just turned 18 in that time, like he was considered legally an adult, so he's living on his own in the family home.
Starting point is 00:13:36 On June 18th, 1978, Jeff was driving home, and he noticed a hitchhiker. It was just four days shy of his 19th birthday. He sees his hitchhiker. His hitchhiker is a young man, and he's kind of cute. So Jeff pulls over and asks, hey, do you want to come over to my place? I have a few beers.
Starting point is 00:13:56 We could just hang out, like, no big deal. Like, I got the house to myself. So Jeff and the hitchhiker, they go back to his house. They were drinking. They were listening to music. And he felt like he, like, had a new friend, right? I guess this hitchhiker finally got to a point where he's like, okay, I'm ready to go home now.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Like I'm just ready to leave, I wanna leave. This upset Jeffrey, and I know it upset him because instead of just like letting him go home, instead Jeffrey was like, you know what, I'm gonna grab this 10 pound dumbbell and I'm just gonna hit him in the head with it so he can't leave. Solid plan.
Starting point is 00:14:29 He grabs a 10 pound dumbbell and he hits this poor man twice from behind in the head while he was, this victim was sitting in a a chair. After he hit him, he then strangled the poor man until he died. Once Jeffrey knew that this victim was dead, he then removed all of his clothing and then he said that he stood over the victim's body and masturbated over his body. According to Jeff, this was like his first time killing somebody. He was feeling all sorts of ways, excited, aroused. The next day, Jeff had this dead body in his house
Starting point is 00:15:12 and he's like, I gotta do something with this. He takes the body down to his basement and that's where he takes apart the whole body, like, like just takes it up, like what are you doing? He just takes it all apart. And then Jeff grabs a shovel, dig a grave in his backyard because he needs somewhere to put the remains. So he puts the remains in his own backyard.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Several weeks went by, Jeff decided to dig up the body, cut it up somewhere. I don't know what's going through his mind. really don't. It's not funny, but it's uncomfortable. And that's why I'm laughing. So he digs up the remains. He takes a knife, okay? He cuts the flesh from the bones and then remember his dad showed him how to dissolve flesh from bones so he can preserve the bones. Well, he used that technique. He got some acid. He soaks the body in this acid to try and get all of the flesh and the meat and everything off of the bones. He wants to like keep them or something. Takes the
Starting point is 00:16:08 acid solution. He flushes it down the toilet. Then Jeff crushes up the bones. He then scatters them in the wooded area behind the family home. Also, this is a side note just really quickly. I'm not going to be naming any of the victims. I'm just going to be referring to them as a victim. Um, reason being is because family members of the victims have sued different people who have written books or made movies and stuff and like named the victims, they sued because they didn't give permission their family members named to be used to protect myself and then also the victim. I feel like, never mind, I won't get into it. It's not me trying to be disrespectful by any means. I just don't want to upset anybody. So that is, um, was Jeffrey's first kill? And he was excited about it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 It really got him going. He was like, oh, hell yeah. Killing? I think I like this. You know, I want to try it again. Six weeks ago by Jeff's father has found a new love. You know, he's got a new girl and actually a new fiancé, I'm sorry. And they end up going by the old house to see like how Jeff is doing to go check in with him. And that's where they discovered that Jeff was living alone. The whole time he thought like he was living with his mom, he had no idea that he was just living on his own. His father thought it would be best if Jeffrey went to college, did something productive with himself in his life, and he actually offered to pay for his schooling. He ended up attending Ohio State University. While attending the university, he received a whopping GPA score of
Starting point is 00:17:48 0.45. How do you achieve that? I'm not sure. Jeffrey's father had paid for his schooling in advanced, okay? Jeffrey thought it'd be best if he dropped out of university, and he only attended for three months. Waste of money. Jeffrey's father, again, is trying to help his son, trying to find him some kind of purpose in life, right? So he's telling Jeffrey, you should definitely enlist in the U.S. Army. Jeffrey agrees, and he ends up enlisting in the U.S. Army. And he actually trained as a medical specialist in San Antonio, Texas. And then in July, 1979, he was stationed in West Germany, where he served as a combat medic.
Starting point is 00:18:32 How did he get that job, you know? According to published reports in his first year of service, he was a, quote, average or slightly above average soldier, end quote. Two soldiers would later attest to having been raped by Jeffrey while in the army. One stated in 2010, so years and years later, that Jeff had repeatedly raped him over a 17-month period while they were both stationed in Germany, while another soldier believed that Jeff had drugged and raped him in 1979. In March of 1981, Jeff was deemed unsuitable for military service
Starting point is 00:19:12 and was discharged from the Army because of his alcohol abuse. He was sent to South Carolina for debriefing, and he also was provided with the plane ticket to travel anywhere in the country. So, you know, if you could go anywhere in the country, like, where would you go? Oh, my gosh, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Jeffrey was like, well, I know I can't go home because if I have to tell my dad that I failed at everything, like, I don't want to do that. He was like, I'm going to Florida. Miami Beach, you know, he's like, yeah, I'm going to do it. So he goes down to Florida. He doesn't tell his dad. He moves to Florida and he actually found work at a local restaurant and he rented a room in a nearby motel. Now, Jeffrey would spend most of his income on alcohol and sadly he got evicted from the motel that he was. living at for not paying. Once he got kicked out, he just kind of really was left with nowhere to go
Starting point is 00:20:07 and he was feeling very defeated and he ends up calling up his dad and asking if he could come back to Ohio. He moves in with his father and his new stepmother. So of course like any parent does, they give you chores. Okay. So they're like, we have to make sure that Jeffrey is like staying busy or whatever. He can't be just a freeloader in my home. So they gave him long. lots of different chores to do around the home. They heavily pushed him to go find a job. So he would spend a lot of his days out and about just looking for work.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And then when he was home, he would just follow the rules. He was doing the chores, trying his best, I guess. Now at this time, he was still drinking a ton. He would be arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct and he was fined 60 bucks and given a suspended 10 day jail sentence. His father couldn't help him when it came to his drinking. Jeffrey's father had enough. He was like, I am done with you. You're drinking a lot. His bedroom floor was just covered with empty bottles. And he tells Jeffrey, you know what,
Starting point is 00:21:13 you're going to go live with your grandmother in a West Alice, Wisconsin. I'm sorry, my hair keeps changing. I'm just like having a bad hair day. So yeah, his dad's like, go live with your grandmother, okay, because I just can't take you anymore. Do you blame him? No. Well, now his grandmother, was the only family member who showed any love and affection towards Jeffrey, he loved his grandma. And when he went to go live with her, because he did, it did help him change things up a bit and he seemed a little bit more happier.
Starting point is 00:21:43 He would attend church with his grandma, he would help around the house on things like she couldn't really do, and he even found a job at the Milwaukee Blood Plasma Center, fitting. But it seemed like he was doing better and he was able to keep that job for 10 months. but then he got laid off. Then he remained unemployed for two years. By late 1985, he had begun to visit local gay bathhouses.
Starting point is 00:22:11 When going to these bathhouses, he would have sex with different men working there, and he would later say that he would become really frustrated at his partners when he was having sex with them because they would be moving around, they would be talking too much, and he didn't like it. He just wanted them to shut up. So instead of just maybe telling them,
Starting point is 00:22:35 like, hey, can you stop talking, he laced their drinks with crushed sleeping pills that he would sneak in there. And this would knock his victims out, they would pass out, and then while they were passed out, Jeffrey would rape them while they were asleep. He did this about 12 different times, and then eventually the owners found out
Starting point is 00:22:58 that he was drugging the workers, and they revoked his membership, banned him from coming. I don't know why they didn't call the police. Oh, because it's a gay bathhouse. Oh, I answered my own question. But they still should have called the police or something, right? Instead of being upset about this, Jeffrey was like, you know what, this is my opportunity to just do it on my own.
Starting point is 00:23:20 I don't need that bathhouse. I could just rent a hotel room, do it on my own terms. So he did. On November 20th, 1987, Jeff met a 25-year-old man at a bar, and he asked if he wanted to return with him to his hotel and stay with him, hang out, have some drinks. According to Jeffrey, he had absolutely 100% no intention of murdering this man, okay?
Starting point is 00:23:47 But he did intend to just drug and rape him as he lay unconscious, but not murder him. I was just going to drug and rape him. Like, come on. following morning though, Jeffrey wakes up and when he wakes up, he sees at the victim or the man that he brought home the night before. He was laying beneath him on the bed. His chest was crushed in and it was black and blue with bruises. Blood was coming out of the corner of his mouth and Jeffrey's fists and one forearm were covered in bruises. Jeff would say that he had absolutely no memory of killing this person and later told him. told investigators way later that he just, quote, could not believe that this had happened, end quote. I just don't know what happened, man.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I was just like hanging out. I was just gonna drug and rape him and I woke up and he was dead, so weird. Someone must have came in, you know? Just own up to it, you dick, okay? Tell truth, I know you're lying, you remember. You remember. Pepper Gapar remembers.
Starting point is 00:24:52 When Jeff wakes up and he sees this victim, he's like, oh shit, I do. definitely have to get rid of the body. He decides to purchase a large suitcase and he stuffs the body into this suitcase. He ends up taking the body or the suitcase back to his grandmother's house, just leaves the suitcase unopened,
Starting point is 00:25:13 he just leaves it there for about a week. So once the week goes by, that's when he decides to open up the suitcase and dismember the body. So he severed the head, the arms, the legs, the toilet, the toilet, well the legs from the torso and then he cuts the flesh from the bones of the body and he cuts the flesh into a bunch of different pieces he places he places the flesh into garbage bags and then wrap the bones and paper where he then used a sledgehammer to crush down the bones so he wraps it in paper and you know so it doesn't like go everywhere the bones he's doing this in his grandma's basement by the way poor grandma she has no idea. Okay, so then he disposed all of the remains except for the head and he put all of the
Starting point is 00:26:04 remains in the trash. Two weeks later, yeah, two weeks baby, he was letting everything marinate, I guess, I don't know. Jeff takes the head of the victim, wants to preserve the skull. He really wants the school. So he's like, I'm gonna do what my dad taught me, right? To clean off the meat and stuff from the bones so he could preserve the bones. He takes the head he boils some water and he puts in a mixture of soil X and bleach and soil X is like a cleaning solution. It's pretty powerful and he's doing this in an effort to retain the skull. Now unfortunately for Jeff, the bleach made the skull way too brittle and it just completely fell apart. He was super bombed all that hard work and he lost the one thing he really wanted, right? So he threw it away. He's determined though to get a Another one. I had a little rude awakening the other day. You know, you're minding your own business.
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Starting point is 00:29:13 rape them. Let me call it what it is. He would rape them. Also he would kill them by strangulation. Two months later, this one is really, it's all disturbing, but this one is just whatever. Okay, look, two months later, Jeff comes across or meets a 14-year-old Native American sex worker. First of all, there's all sorts of wrong with that sentence, but like, what is a 14-year-old doing working as a sex worker? And I'm sure he was being trafficked, which is just awful. And the fact that he ran into this, this disturbing man, Mr. Dahmer, lost his life over it. Like, that's just horseshit and I feel so bad for this poor 14-year-old child. Like I said in my last video, the Lord says we should forgive, but boy, do they make it difficult?
Starting point is 00:30:02 Anyways, 14-year-old sex worker, Jeff went up to him and was like, hey, would you pose for nude pictures? I'll give you 50 bucks. Just come over to my place. You don't have to have sex with me. I just want some nude photos and I need a model and you would be perfect. And this young boy, he's like 50 bucks, hell yeah, I'm there. So he agrees. So they go back to his grandma's place.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Once they get there, they actually engage in sexual intercourse. Jeffrey ends up drugging him. He crushed up a bunch of sleeping pills, put it in his drink, offered it to him and just waited. Once he passed out, that's when he strangled him and he killed him. Jeffrey left this young victim in the basement of his grandmother's house for a week. And then when he got the chance, he dismembered and discarded his body in the trash except for, again, his skull. Jeffrey just really wanted a skull, a trophy.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Jeff does the same thing. but again he made the bones too brittle and it didn't work and he had to just throw away the skull. Jeffrey was bummed because like he's like, damn it, I really wanted to keep the skull. Jeffrey was kind of experimenting, trying to find this right formula that way he could again keep the skull.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Now on March 24th, 1994, this is a side note just really quickly. Have you noticed that March kind of seems like to be the month when a lot of these things take place? Is it just me who's noticing that? Something's going on. Obviously something's going on, Bailey. March always comes up. Back to the story.
Starting point is 00:31:47 March 24th, 1988. Jeffrey now meets a 22-year-old man outside of a gay bar. Jeff asks, hey, I'll give you $50 if you just come and hang out with me and spend the remainder of the night with me. This 22-year-old was like, okay, they go back to Jeffrey's grandmother's house again. Same thing. Drugs him with a bunch of sleeping pills,
Starting point is 00:32:10 and then once he's passed out, he strangles him with a leather strap. This time though, Jeffrey decided that he wanted to perform oral sex on this victim and once he was done, bitch, what is he doing? This guy's so fucking weird. This victim though was dismembered within 24 hours of his murder. This time Jeff was quick about it, okay?
Starting point is 00:32:32 And once again with the remains, he disposed the bones, he crushed him up, puts him in the trash, keeps the skull. This time though, it said that Jeffrey didn't really want this guy's skull, so instead of trying to boil it and keep it, he ended up just crushing it up and throwing it away. Jeffrey later said that he didn't find this victim very attractive and that's why he didn't really want to keep the skull.
Starting point is 00:32:57 So why did he kill him then? Practice, I'm not sure. So many questions. April 23rd, Jeffrey lured another young man to his house. However, this time after giving this victim drugged coffee, both he and the victim heard Jeffrey's grandmother calling down towards him because they're in the basement. His grandma is yelling like, Jeffrey, is that you?
Starting point is 00:33:22 This obviously freaked him out. And he tried to play it off as if he was there by himself, as if he didn't have a guest with him. But his grandma knew that someone was with him because she heard, she heard it. So she knew that someone was with him. So he's like, okay, I can't kill this guy because my grandma knows that I've got someone down here.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Jeffrey had already drugged this victim and the victim was unconscious. So he ends up carrying him out to the car and then he drives the victim to the county general hospital just drops him off and then leaves. That victim is so lucky, you know? In September of 1988, Jeffrey's grandmother asked him to move out of her house,
Starting point is 00:34:06 because of his habit of bringing young men to her home late at night. And she also said, like, there's just some really foul smells coming from both the basement and the garage, and it must be your stuff. I don't like it. It's bothering me. It's like she was so close to stopping this. If she just would have went down to the basement,
Starting point is 00:34:29 we could have ended this, grandma. We could have stopped this, but she didn't. And, I mean, I don't blame her by any means, but you know, like, bummer. So she asked him to move out. He ends up finding a one bedroom apartment on September 25th. He ends up moving out,
Starting point is 00:34:45 and I'm not even kidding you, the next day. Jeff was arrested. What was he arrested for? Well, he actually got caught. He lured a 13-year-old boy into his apartment. He drugged the young boy, and then he was, what's the word, sexually fondling him?
Starting point is 00:35:04 He got caught and he was arrested, And then in January of 1989, he was convicted of second degree sexual assault and of enticing a child for immoral purposes. Sentencing for the assault was suspended until May of 1989, so a few months later. Well, I mean, I guess you could say that Jeff over here didn't last too long on his own. Literally hours after moving out on his own, he ended up getting caught and arrested. Then he ended up moving back in with his grandmother. That's when he would murder his fifth victim, a 24-year-old aspiring model who he met at a gay bar on March 25, 1989.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Once again, according to Jeffrey, he was not looking to commit a crime. It's just shortly before closing time, this victim just came up and started talking to him. So Jeffrey just, you know, asked him if he wanted to go back to his grandma's home. The two of them ended up engaging in oral sex, and then Jeffrey drugged and strangled him. It just happened. He didn't mean to. The following morning, he ended up placing the corpse in his grandmother's bathtub, where he proceeded to cut up the body.
Starting point is 00:36:21 He decapitated the body before attempting to take the meat off the bones. He stripped the flesh from the body. He crushed up the bones. He disposed it again in the trash. He kept the skull. And according to Jeff, he found this victim, quote, exceptionally attractive, end quote. And was the first victim he permanently kept any body parts of. He preserved the victim's head and lower region, the penis.
Starting point is 00:36:54 And he put it in acetone and stored them in his work locker. The following year, when he ends up moving, he took these items with him. Like, he really liked this guy. He was something special to Jeff. At this time, I'm so sorry. I failed to mention, but Jeffrey got a job prior to his arrest at a chocolate factory. I know. Who is he?
Starting point is 00:37:19 Willy Wonka. What a creep. Not that if you work at a chocolate factory, you're a creep. But, like, this guy is just such a creep, right? Like, he's just fucking creep. So, yeah, he was working. he was making his own money, and that's how he was able to afford the apartment on his own in the first place. I apologize. So remember that time I mentioned that Jeff got caught doing
Starting point is 00:37:39 things with a 13-year-old boy? His sentencing was postponed until May. Well, May 23rd, 1989. That's when his sentencing takes place. So in my mind, I'm thinking, yeah, he's going to be in jail for a long time for that, right? Of course not. Jeffrey got five years probation, and he had a work release permit. That way he could keep his job. He also had to register as a sex offender. But like, what the hell does that do? Yeah, whatever. I guess I can't obsess over it. I let these things sometimes like make me very angry because how could you not get angry? And it's just so frustrating, but it is what it is, Bailey. It is what a damn is. So in May 1990, that's when Jeff moved to his own apartment again. And this time it was located on a normal
Starting point is 00:38:28 25th Street in Milwaukee. It's pretty famous because all of Jeffrey Dahmer's cult following followers know this location well, okay? Now this apartment was located in a very high crime area. The apartment was close to his workplace at the chocolate factory. Come on, that's funny, the chocolate factory. And it was furnished, so awesome. It was $300 per month for his own apartment, which was a steal. He didn't care if there was like high crime or anything.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He knew he'd be just fine. Within a week of moving into his new apartment, Jeff was ready to get his sixth victim, who was a 32 year old male sex worker. Jeff had lured to his apartment with the promise of $50 for sex. He gave the victim a drink laced with seven sleeping pills and then strangled him.
Starting point is 00:39:21 The following day, Jeffrey had purchased a Polaroid camera, which he took several pictures this victim's body in suggestive positions before dismembering him in the bathroom. He boiled the legs, he boiled the arms, he boiled the pelvis in a steel kettle and then rinse the bones in his sink.
Starting point is 00:39:44 He dissolved the remainder of the victim's skeleton in a container filled with acid. Jeffrey later spray painted the skull, which he placed alongside the skull of the previous victim inside a metal filing cabinet. Oh, it keeps going, baby. So June 1990, Jeffrey lured a 27-year-old acquaintance to his apartment. Same shit different day.
Starting point is 00:40:05 He drugged. He strangled. He placed the victim's skeleton in his freezer for several months and the hope it would not retain moisture. Freezing the skeleton, it didn't remove any moisture. And the skeleton of this victim would be put in acid, but several months later, Jeffrey accidentally destroyed the skull when he placed it into the oven to dry, caused the skull to explode. Jeff then met a 22-year-old Chicago native and he agreed to come back to Jeffrey's apartment. Jeffrey was like, hey, if you just come back to my apartment, hang out with me, I'll give you $50.
Starting point is 00:40:42 So this victim agreed when they got back to his place. Jeffrey had attempted to perform oral sex on this victim, but Jeff was informed, quote, that'll cost you extra," end quote. This obviously pissed Jeffrey off. At this time, he only had two sleeping pills left, and he knew that wasn't enough to knock him out completely. So instead of knocking this victim out, he just cut his throat,
Starting point is 00:41:10 he just went right for it, he did it, and sadly this man bled to death. Jeffrey had just gotten this Polaroid camera, remember? And he's all excited about it. He's like, yay, I'm a photographer now. So he poses the victim's body. Again, he poses the body in a very suggestive way and he takes Polaroid photographs
Starting point is 00:41:29 before placing the body in his bathtub for dismemberment. Jeffrey said that while the body was in the bathtub, he repeatedly kissed and talked to the severed head. That's 100% not funny. I'm laughing at the fact that I'm just saying this so nonchalantly. You know what? We're gonna just continue. So yes, he's repeatedly kissing and talking to the severed head
Starting point is 00:41:54 while he dismembered the remainder of the body. So it was like his friend. Wrap the heart, the biceps, and portions of this victim's flesh from his legs in plastic bags and then place them in the fridge for later consumption. Jeff boiled the remaining flesh and organs
Starting point is 00:42:13 into a, quote, jelly-like substance using again soylex, which was that chemical cleaner and that was able to help him get the flesh off of the bones and then he painted and coated the skull with enamel he's creating like his own little museum on september 24th Jeff lured another victim to his place but Jeff said that this time he wasn't attracted to this victim so instead of keeping any of the body parts aka the skull he instead just photographed the dismemberment process and then discarded the remains completely. April 7th, Jeffrey encountered a 19 year old guy walking to get his key cut.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Jeffrey saw this person, right? And he asked like, hey, you want to come over to my apartment and just hang out? They go back to the apartment, drugged him again. But this time, as if it couldn't get worse enough, it gets worse. This time he drills a hole into this victim's skull and he pours acid into it. it. Now mind you, this victim isn't dead. This victim was simply knocked out from the medication, from the drugs. He's still alive and he drills a hole into his skull. I'm not kidding you. Is that not disturbing? Because it really is. According to Jeffrey, this victim woke up. After he drilled
Starting point is 00:43:41 a hole into his head, he wakes up. He fucking wakes up. He wakes. Do you know that? He wakes up. What the fuck? Jeffrey was kind of excited about this because that's what he wanted. He was hoping to induce a permanent, unresistant, submissive state, somebody who's still alive, someone that he could control and keep around.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And if he could do this and achieve this, that would be his ultimate goal. So this victim wakes up and it makes him excited because he's like, oh my God, it worked. Oh my God, it worked. Jeffrey says that the victim said, quote, I have a headache, what time is it?" End quote.
Starting point is 00:44:20 So he didn't even know that he had a hole in his head, which honestly, good. You don't wanna know. In response to this, Jeffrey again was like, okay, I need to drug him. Again, he needs to go back to bed, go me-mese. This time he strangles him. And then he decapitated and retained his skull.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I'm not quite sure why he ended up killing him because he wanted to have a victim who was still alive, easy to control and keep and whatever. Now this time he really wanted to keep the skull because it had a hole through it. So he's, you know, using cold water and he's using a little bit of salt in the water for several weeks and like letting it soak
Starting point is 00:45:00 and hopes to permanently keep it. It didn't work though, so he had to discard it again. In 1991, there were fellow residents in the apartment complex. They were repeatedly complaining to the manager that there was foul smells coming from Jeff Jeffrey's apartment. And on top of that, they also complained that there was like sounds of falling objects and occasionally a chainsaw.
Starting point is 00:45:27 So of course people are complaining there's a smell, chainsaw, so they're calling the manager, laying them note. So the manager contacts Jeffrey. Doesn't go see him in person, of course, just calls them up on the phone and he says, hey, you know, other people are complaining that there's a smell coming from your place. And Jeffrey was like, yeah, well, my freezer broke. All the food inside of it, it just became spoiled, and that's why they're smelling this.
Starting point is 00:45:52 The manager was like, oh, okay, yeah, so just get that cleared up. You know, people are complaining, blah, blah, blah. Hang up the phone, click, like a week or two goes by, and the manager calls him again, and he said, bring, bing, hey, so your neighbors are still complaining that there's a smell coming from your apartment. Like I thought you had cleared this up.
Starting point is 00:46:11 And Jeffrey said that, oh my God, you don't understand several of my tropical fish had died and it's causing this horrendous smell and that's what it is and the manager's like okay just get it fixed up what about that chainsaw and then Jeffrey's like what chainsaw if the manager would just have simply gone there actually it's probably better for his safety if he didn't but definitely should have had someone go by anyhow so on the afternoon of may 26 1991 Jeffrey found another 14 year old boy and offered him money to hang out with him at his his apartment. Jeffrey said that the boy was initially pretty reluctant to go with Jeffrey.
Starting point is 00:46:52 So finally this boy's feeling, I guess, I don't want to say comfortable enough because I can't speak on his behalf, but he ends up going back with Jeffrey to his home and the boy ended up posing for some pictures and then Jeff drugged him. The poor boy passed out. Jeffrey now getting creative with his whatever the fuck he's doing. Again, he takes a drill and he drills a single a hole into the victim's skull. And again, he injected hydrochloric acid into the frontal lobe. This victim is technically still alive.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Jeffrey had led this boy into his bedroom. In his bedroom, the body of a victim he had killed three days earlier was laying naked on the floor. The boy sees this. Before he passes out, he sees this, he kind of panics, but then he gets dizzy and then he falls unconscious. While this boy was just kind of laying there, Jeffrey drank several beers while laying next to him.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And then for some odd reason, Jeffrey takes off, he leaves his apartment and he goes to a local bar to have a drink. And then after that, he purchases more alcohol at a liquor store and then comes back to his apartment. When he comes back to his apartment, it's pretty like still early in the morning. He's walking back and sees outside of his apartment is that young boy and he's sitting out there.
Starting point is 00:48:13 side naked on the corner of the street. Now there were three young women surrounding him and they were asking him like, are you okay? What's the matter? Hello? Like to this young boy, but you can't think, can't answer. And they're trying to like get some answers from this boy that they found on the street. So Jeffrey sees this and he's like, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:48:33 So Jeffrey goes up to the trio, the three of them and he's like, oh my gosh, this is my friend. He's drunk, don't worry. I know him, we're just gonna go back to my apartment. He tries to grab the young boy and takes him back to the apartment, but these women just have, you know, that gut feeling that something's not right. They had already called 911. They were trying to get Jeffrey to stop, delaying him from going back to the apartment with the young boy.
Starting point is 00:48:58 So police pull up. Oh, yeah, baby, police pull up. And Jeffrey told them that the young boy was his 19-year-old boyfriend and that he drank too much alcohol. And the police seemed to not question any further. For good reason, this upset one of the women who called 911. She was like, no, no, no, something's not right here. One of the women actually pulled an officer aside. And she tried to tell them that this young man was bleeding from like his back here, like his butt.
Starting point is 00:49:25 He had struggled when Jeff was trying to get him back to the apartment. And she was just expressing how she felt like something is going on. And the officer told a woman to, quote, butt out, shut the hell up, and to not interfere." End quote, great. The police officers said, this is between them, it's not your problem, don't worry about it. Run along.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Poor women are just trying to do the right thing. And so the officers ended up covering the young man with a towel. They walked him back to Jeff, Jeffrey's apartment. Jeffrey's still trying to prove to the officers that this young man is like his lover. He showed them the Polaroids that he had taken of him, trying to prove like, see this is my boyfriend. let's we take like sexy pictures of him.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And then the officers, you know, they leave the home and they tell Jeff to just take good care of his lover. Oh, they. So once the police officers had left his apartment, Jeff once again had injected hydrochloric acid into this young victim's brain. This time though it killed him. Okay, hold on, this is definitely too much.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So the following day, Jeffrey had called out of work, because he really wanted to devote his day to dismembering two bodies that he had in his home at that time. So he was like, I can't come in today, like, I'm sick. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Jeffrey would lure three more men, kill and dismember them in the same way he did with his previous victims.
Starting point is 00:50:54 He would call out from work to dedicate his time to dismembering his victims, which eventually led to Jeffrey getting fired. Because of that, he said that it made him kill and dismember another, On July 22nd, 1991, Jeffrey approached three men with an offer of $100 to accompany him to his apartment to pose for some nude photographs, drink beer, and simply keep him company. One of the trio was a 32-year-old's man, and he agreed. He was like, okay, sure, I could use
Starting point is 00:51:28 100 bucks, so he goes back to Jeffrey's home. And this victim said that instantly, when he walked in the door, he got a whiff of just like a foul smell. And then he noticed several boxes of hydrochloric acid on the floor. And he's like, hey, so yeah, what's that all about? You know, because I mean, who just has that shit laying around? Maybe you do. A little suspicion, you know? So he's asking, what's that all about? And Jeff told him, oh, I use it to clean bricks. Okay? Uh-huh. So the two of them go into Jeff's bedroom. And there in the bedroom was a 57-gallon drum in the corner, which the victim said there was this smell definitely coming from this drum. Jeff then placed his head on the victim's chest, kind of like in a romantic way, but instead
Starting point is 00:52:17 he was holding out a knife. So not very romantic. Jeff said, I'm going to rip your heart out. Of course, the victim's like, what the fuck, man, and he freaks out. Now, at this point, the victim, he just knew, like, some shit's about to go down. There's weird smells. There's suspish boxes. This dude is just fucking weird. He's going to rip my heart out. I got to get, you know. And this victim was kind of like looking around and trying to plan his escape. And he's like, okay, there's windows around. I could try and like jump out of a window. I could just run right out the front door or I could just wait. And this victim knew if I wait, I'm going to die. Like, there's no waiting. So he's trying to think, fuck, what do I do? Maybe if I go to the bathroom, I could like jump out the window in the bathroom. This victim asked Jeffrey, like, can, may I use your restroom please? And he goes in. And he goes, in there, no window. So he's like, fuck. So he comes back out, they're hanging out in the living room at this point.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Now, when they're hanging out in the living room, the victim again is like, hey, can I use your bathroom one more time? Not sure what his thought process was at this point, but whatever, at least he's trying to do something, right? So he goes back to the bathroom. Now at this point, when he comes back out, he sees like Jeff isn't really fully paying attention. He just punches him in the face as hard as he can,
Starting point is 00:53:33 and then he runs out. the front door. At 11.30 p.m., the victim, he flagged down to Milwaukee police officers. He's like, hey, this dude just like fucking tried to attack me. There's some fucking weird shit going on over there. And this victim had a handcuff on his wrist. Now, I failed to mention that at some point when the victim went to Jeffrey's home, the victim wasn't paying attention. He was kind of looking the other way. And Jeffrey had placed a handcuff on his wrist and he was going to handcuff him. But the victim was like, what the fuck are you doing? Jeffrey was like, well, you know, I thought we could hang out. He couldn't get the handcuff off.
Starting point is 00:54:11 So he was still wearing it when he ran out of Jeffrey's home. So when he finds these police officers, he's like, you got to come over with me and he shows him he has a handcuff. And he's like, can you get these handcuffs off of me? So they tried to use their own key to try to get the handcuff off, but because it's like an off brand, the keys didn't fit. Police officers were like, well, let's just go down to Jeff's apartment and get the key so we can get these off. When the officers and the victim arrived to Jeff's house, you see, the victim felt safe enough to go back to Jeffrey's home because the two police officers were with him. So they all go to Jeffrey's house. Jeff invited the trio inside and acknowledged he had indeed placed the handcuffs on him, although he offered
Starting point is 00:54:54 no explanation as to why he had done so. Jeff told one of the officers that the key to the handcuffs was in his bedroom dresser, so they all walked to the bedroom. Jeffrey's kind of like trying to box him out, like, I'll get the key, I'll get the key, trying to get to the key before them, but instead police officers are like, get out of our way, we'll get them.
Starting point is 00:55:13 And this is when one of the police officers saw the dresser drawer, it was open, and guess what? It contained many Polaroid pictures, many of which were just human bodies in various stages of dismemberment. Upon further inspection, they see that the decor in the background of these Polaroid pictures indicated to them that they had been taken in the very apartment in which they were standing. The police officer had taken some of the Polaroids, walked into the living room to show his partner. These are real.
Starting point is 00:55:46 When Jeffrey saw that the police officer was holding several of his Polaroids, he fought with the officers in effort to resist arrest because they were trying to put him in handcuffs while they searched the rest of his home and called a second squad car for backup. At this point, one of the officers, they open up the refrigerator and they see like a freshly severed head
Starting point is 00:56:08 of a male on the bottom shelf. It's one thing to like see the Polaroid pictures and then to open up the refrigerator and just see a head staring at you. I feel so bad because you know these officers have gotta be really fucked up. Then they do a more detailed search of the apartment. When they're searching the apartment, they reveal a total of four severed heads
Starting point is 00:56:26 in Jeffrey's kitchen. A total of seven skulls. Some were painted, some were found in Jeffrey's bedroom, inside a closet. There were just like skulls and body parts kind of just scattered in random places. Surprise at every corner. They also found two human hearts and a portion of an arm muscle, each wrapped inside a plastic bag in the bottom shelf of the fridge. Jeffery's freezer, investigators discovered an entire torso, plus a bag of human organs and flesh stuck to the ice at the bottom of the freezer. Throughout the apartment, investigators discovered two entire skeletons, a pair of severed hands, two severed and preserved penises, a mummified scalp, and in the 57-gallon drum, remember it was in the bedroom, three further dismembered torsos
Starting point is 00:57:16 were dissolving in acid solution. A total of 74. Polaroid pictures detailing the dismemberment of Jeffrey's victims were found. Obviously, Jeffrey was arrested. On July 23rd, 1991, Jeffrey was brought in for questioning. He's already been arrested, he's been sitting in prison. They bring him in, they got to question him, you know, what the fuck's going on with you, bro? Jeffrey had admitted to investigators to having murdered 16 young men in Wisconsin since 1987. And on January 30th, 1992, his trial began for the 15 counts of first degree murder. The trial had lasted two weeks and Jeff was sentenced to life imprisonment plus 70 years. The death penalty was not an option because the state of Wisconsin
Starting point is 00:58:03 had abolished capital punishment in 1853, so he was just going to spend the rest of his life in prison. Personal opinion here, 100% personal opinion. I don't like the death penalty. I like the thought of people who've done awful things. I like, I don't like it. I don't like it. I like the idea of them being miserable in prison for the rest of their lives versus getting an easy way out, you know? Like when you get the death penalty, you get like injected with something and then you die. No, not on my watch. You go there, you sit, and you suffer. I think that's the best punishment. Sorry, not sorry, but it's a personal opinion.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Thank you so much. Jeffrey had spent the first year of his incarceration in solitary confinement due to concerns for his physical safety amongst his fellow inmates. People were threatening him. People wanted him dead. He then was transferred to a less secure unit after a year. On the morning of November 28, 1994, Jeff was found on the floor of the bathrooms of the gym
Starting point is 00:59:06 suffering from extreme head and facial wounds. He had been beaten the face and head with a 20-inch metal bar, and it seemed his face had also been slammed against the wall during his assault. When he was found, Jeff was technically, he was still alive, okay? And he was rushed to a nearby hospital, but was pronounced dead one hour later. There was a fellow inmate who was serving a life sentence. He is the one who actually attacked Jeff.
Starting point is 00:59:36 And authorities had asked him, hey man, like, why did you attack Jeff? He said that him, the killer, Jeffrey, and then another inmate, the trio, they were sent to go clean the staff locker room together. And normally an officer watches you to make sure something like this doesn't happen. But for a split second, an officer left. From my understanding, I think the officer was in on it. According to this inmate who killed Jeffrey, when he was beating Jeffrey with a metal pole, Jeffrey didn't make any noise, he didn't say anything, he didn't cry, he didn't even flinch.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He just beat him and yeah, he said it was weird when they asked him like, Why did you do it? This inmate said, quote, God told me to do it, end quote. Not only did this inmate kill Jeffrey, but he also killed another inmate who was cleaning with them. Again, he said God told him that he needed to do it. A lot of people were very happy about it
Starting point is 01:00:37 when they heard that he was murdered. But inside the prison, a lot of the guards were very upset because at the end of the day, like murder is murder. You know, it was like a big deal. It was a very big deal. And plus, a lot of people, people wanted him dead though so to think that he was gonna like actually be fine so he died this guy was just really fucked up you know Jeffrey's mother had passed away in the year 2000
Starting point is 01:01:04 and his father retired father ended up writing a book about his experience and his life with Jeffrey's younger brother remember his name was David he ended up changing his last name and he wants nothing to do with it so don't even look him up and I don't blame him he want don't, he's like, don't involve me, I want nothing to do with this shit. Good for him. And that, my friends, is a story about Jeffrey Dahmer. It's a long one, right? I lost my voice. So sad. There were so many victims who had died a horrible, horrible death at the hands of this gross ass dweeb. Sorry, but he's a dweeb. Don't even get me started on the fans. Okay, Jeffrey Dahmer is one of those people who has so many fans. It's disturbing. If any of you guys
Starting point is 01:01:48 have Netflix and you haven't watched a show on Netflix called The Dark Tourist. Go watch it if you haven't seen it yet. There's this episode about Jeffrey Dahmer and how they have like a tour you can take. This tour takes you around the city to where Jeffrey Dahmer hung out and like shows you the different gay bars he hung out at and then shows you like the apartment complex and where like he left his victims, where he killed his victim. And the main people who like to take these tours are like,
Starting point is 01:02:17 Bachelor rep parties. Yeah, I'm not even kidding you. Look, I get it, like being curious and wanting to go on one of these tours. Like, I get it. Like, you know, I would want to do it. But a bachelorette party, like, what the fuck? That should not be allowed. But whatever. On this show, they, like, ask a couple of women who are taking the tour. Like, why are you interested in Jeffrey Dahmer? And the girls are like, oh my God. He's, like, really good looking. He's handsome. And, like, he just loved love. And, like, trying to romantic. The whole story is weird. Because first of all, ma'am, he wasn't even interested in you. He liked dick. And second of all, he didn't love love. He loved bones and skulls, but I just, I don't get it. I don't get it. There are so many books, there are so many movies,
Starting point is 01:03:07 there are so many TV shows that are based off this man's story. Why? They claim he's like one of the worst, but I could think of worse ones. Worst ones. I think truly what captured a lot of people's attention was the fact that he was good looking. We're shallow like that. Let's be real here. Same with Chris Watts. Remember the Chris Watts case? I was obsessed with it. I did my very first murder mystery and makeup on the Chris Watts case. People were obsessed with it because he was good looking. Like let's be honest here. Same with Jeffrey Dahmer. I think he looks like a nerd. Let me know your thoughts down below. What can you say? I will do Ted Bundy. sometime in the future. I see you guys, trust me. I read your comments all the time.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I may not get to respond to every single one of you, but I read your comments and I have a list, which is stories in general. You guys are constantly sending my way, which I so greatly appreciate and I don't want you to ever feel like you're going unnoticed. I just simply cannot respond to every single person. I appreciate you guys for always recommending stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I just appreciate you guys. So thank you so much for hanging out with me today. You make good choices. All righty, have a good day. I'll see you guys. later. I have gotten requested a lot to do this story. I kind of was avoiding it because I try to avoid stories that are super well known
Starting point is 01:04:35 just because I feel like it's been told so many times. What else can I add to the story, you know? But I'm doing it anyways. I like to give in to you guys. His name is Richard Ramirez. a.k.a. the night stalker. So Richard was one of five children and his father was a former police officer
Starting point is 01:04:55 who was working in Juarez, Mexico. Here it comes. But he ended up leaving Mexico and he went to work on the Santa Fe Railroad. The whole family relocated to Texas. So his father was a very hardworking man and was determined just to provide for his family as, you know, a parent should.
Starting point is 01:05:16 But he was prone to bursts of anger and he would often physically abuse his wife and his children. It was like a very toxic environment, a very angry, angry father. At the age of two, Richard was struck in the head with like a falling piece of furniture, which doesn't sound that bad, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:40 furniture is so dangerous. But this falling piece of furniture ended up cutting a big gash in his head on his floor, and then when he was five years old, he was struck again in the head with a swing at school and he was knocked unconscious. And Richard would say from that point on, he suffered from seizures.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Side note, if any of you have been paying attention to these back stories, now mind you, these backstories have a lot of consistencies, a lot of things in common, right? Usually the killer or the murderer, the bad guy or girl, suffered from some kind of, or was, a victim of some kind of abuse at a young age, but also there is another theme
Starting point is 01:06:21 tends to happen in these stories. Do you know what it is? Well, you should, because I just talked about it. A head injury. Last week we talked about Randy Kraft, head injury. Edmund Kemper, head injury, Ed Gein, head injury. Gary Hydenick, remember him? I talked about him a while ago.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Head injury. John Wayne Gacy, we haven't talked about him here yet, but he was the clown dude, boo. Head injury. And the list goes on. There's something happened, right? Is that not interesting to you? Because that was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute,
Starting point is 01:06:53 wait a minute. Anyways, now, because Richard's home life was pretty toxic, he would spend a lot of his time nearby at his cousin's house. His cousin, his name was Miguel. Boy, this is really hard to do and talk. So Miguel, this cousin, he was much older than Richard and he had been an Army Green Beret Combat Veteran
Starting point is 01:07:15 who served in the Vietnam War. So pretty hardcore dude. Now, this cousin was all sorts of effed up. You know, they don't really give much to veterans in the first place as far as, like, for their mental well-being. This guy, obviously, Miguel, had just, he's fucked up, is really all I can say. Richard would go over to his house and just hang out with him.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Now he was, like, the cool cousin. Miguel would tell Richard just the awful things that he experienced while away at war. And he would also tell Richard the awful and violent rapes that he committed while stationed in Vietnam. He even had photos of, this is the cousin, he even had photos of him posing with a severed head belonging to a woman that he had raped and killed.
Starting point is 01:08:02 So he is like showing this all to Richard and Richard is like, whoa, that's cool. Because he's a kid, he doesn't, you know, like he doesn't know that this is really awful. Or he does, but at this time, Richard was 10 years old, so he just thought Miguel was a cool older cousin who, I don't know what he thought. I guess I can't really speak for him. Really quick, I'm just going to do the other eye off camera because it's proving to be very difficult to do my eyes like this and talk.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I'll be right back. Anywho, so Miguel would end up teaching Richard some of the skills he had learned when he was in the military, including how to kill people and how to capture people as well. I guess it's good for 10 year olds to know. On May 4th, 1973, Richard was at Miguel's home and they were just hanging out when Miguel and his wife got into an argument. Their heated argument. Now this argument ended up pushing Miguel over the edge and Miguel ended up shooting his wife in the face. Now Richard was there. He was just sitting like on the couch kind of just staying out of it. So he witnesses Miguel shooting. Now Miguel would end up getting arrested and taken into prison, but he was found not guilty by reasons of insanity and he would just spend four
Starting point is 01:09:18 years incarcerated in the state mental hospital. For a while after the shooting, Richard decided to live with his sister and her husband. He really just didn't want to go home because it was not a good place to be. So he ends up moving in with his sister and her husband. Now her husband, this is just a one big hot mess of a family. His sister's husband was his name, his name was Roberto and Roberto over here was a peep in Tom. So Roberto would take Richard with him at night to peep in windows of neighbors where like really pretty or attractive ladies who are living. So the both of them would go and just kind of creep through the window and watch these women undress or like go to the bathroom or just simply watch. Fucking creep. It just kind of seems like
Starting point is 01:10:06 For Richard, it was just one bad place to another bad place to another bad place, you know? I don't think he knew what like a quote unquote normal, normal life or just normal effing hobbies are. As a teenager, Richard began associating his sexual fantasies with violence. While he was still at school, he also worked part time at a Holiday Inn, which is a hotel. Holiday Inn is everywhere, right? It doesn't matter. It was a hotel. So he's working part-time at a hotel and going to school.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Now, Richard was using this job to his advantage. Richard would use his pass key to enter into hotel rooms and rob the guests while they were out. So one night when he was working at the hotel, Richard broke into, or just used his pass key to get into a guest's hotel room. Now, it was a couple. The husband was somewhere he had left, and it was just the wife in there by herself. So Richard led himself into the room and he attempted to rape this woman. The husband ended up walking into the room and catching Richard attacking his wife. He tackled him and he tried to take a mile holding him down.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Police were called. But the charges ended up being dropped when the couple refused to testify. And I was trying to figure out, well, why did they refuse to testify? But they were from out of state just visiting and they didn't want to travel to testify. against him. Because of this, Richard did end up losing his job at the hotel, as he should. So then Richard ends up dropping out of high school in the ninth grade. And honestly, it's a little unclear what he did from this time, ninth grade, all the way up to the age of 22. There really isn't much, much said as to what he was doing, so I don't, I don't really know. But at the age of 22,
Starting point is 01:11:54 that's when Richard decided that he was going to move from Texas to California permanently. So when he moved to California, he went to San Francisco first, and he was staying in the Tenderloin District. So it's April 10th, 1984. Richard is staying at this hotel in San Francisco. It's where he ends up murdering a nine-year-old girl in the basement of the hotel. Sadly, he just, he raped and he beat the poor girl before stabbing her to death. I'm sorry. And this would be Richard's first known killing, but initially,
Starting point is 01:12:30 it wasn't connected to him at all. It went unsolved for many, many years, and it wasn't until 2009 when they were able to get a DNA match linking him to this horrible murder. He ends up going down south to Los Angeles. So on June 28, 1984, a 79-year-old woman, her name was Jenny,
Starting point is 01:12:51 she was found brutally murdered in her apartment in Glassell Park in Los Angeles. And it was said that she had been stabbed repeatedly while asleep in her bed and her throat was slashed so deeply that she was nearly decapitated. Whoever had done this, because they didn't know it was Richard at the time, but they knew whoever had done this had gone through the window
Starting point is 01:13:12 and they had a fingerprint, but no suspects. On March 17, 1985, Richard had attacked a 22-year-old woman and her name was Maria. All of these crimes took place in the Los Angeles area. So 22-year-old Maria was pulling into her garage. garage. Richard ends up like ambushing her, running up to her, and he pulls out his handgun and he shoots her in the face. She ends up surviving because the bullet had ricocheted off the keys she held in her hands when she like lifted her hands up to protect herself. Richard thought like
Starting point is 01:13:46 she was dead. So he like goes inside of the home and inside of the house was her roommate, 34 year old woman named Dale. She had heard the gunshot from inside the house. and she had a ducked behind a counter in the kitchen and she was just kind of like hiding there. She ends up raising her head over the counter where she's hiding to kind of see where Richard is at, right? So she raises her head and that's when Richard sees her and shoots her in the face, killing her.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Richard then looked around the home and tried to steal any jewelry or any valuables and then left. And it was within the same hour, okay? Within the same hour, Richard had come across, a lady named Veronica, and she was sitting in her car. And Richard wanted to steal her car so he could get away. So Richard ends up pulling her out of her vehicle,
Starting point is 01:14:37 and he ends up shooting her twice, and then he ran. It said that he wanted to steal her car, but he ran on foot after he shot her. So I'm not... So then on March 27, 1985, Richard broke into a home in Whittier. He had broken into this house once before, apparently. So he goes back and he breaks into this home.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Now 2 a.m. in the morning. When he gets in there, he sees 64-year-old Vincent is sleeping in his room. Next to Vincent was his 44-year-old wife. Her name was Mazin. Richard just shoots Vincent in the head. And of course, this wakes up his wife who's sleeping next to him.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Richard like hops on top of her and he beats her. He then bounds her hands and he demands that she tells him where all the valuable are at inside of the home. She tells him that there's some jewelry over there, just take whatever you want, leaves her on the bed, he's ransacking the home. She is actually able to get her hands out of the bonds, right?
Starting point is 01:15:40 And she knows, like, there's a shotgun underneath her bed. So she's able to get out of there. Be quiet about it, so he doesn't know that she's getting out. And she gets up, gets under the bed, she grabs the shotgun. Richard comes into the room, she points it at him, pulls the trigger, click. it wasn't loaded.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Oh, I couldn't imagine her feeling in that moment. So of course, this infuriates Richard and he then proceeds to shoot her three times. So then Richard ends up grabbing a knife from the kitchen, gouges both of her eyes out of her face, and he puts them in a jewelry box, and he takes the jewelry box, just takes it. So when Richard is leaving the scene,
Starting point is 01:16:27 scene, he actually ends up leaving his footprints from his sneakers in the flower beds, which are like outside the home. When police went out to the home and they photographed and made a cast, also police had found bullets at the scene, which had matched to those found at previous attacks. This is the moment when police realized that a serial killer was at large. So then May 14th, 1985, Richard goes down to like Monterey Park and he enters the home the home of 66-year-old Bill and his 56-year-old disabled wife, Lillian,
Starting point is 01:17:03 who Bill was like the main caretaker for. I know, it's awful. Bill was in his bedroom and Richard enters the room. They kind of have like a little confrontation. Confrontation. Bill went to go reach for his own handgun that he had nearby. When he was reaching for the gun,
Starting point is 01:17:21 that's when Richard shot him in the face. Then Richard goes around and starts trying to steal stuff for fine valuables, but then he enters Lillian's room and he finds her there. He bound her up, he raped her, then he ransacked the home. Sadly, Bill passed away while he was in the hospital. So then May 29th, all of these took place in 1985, so I'm just gonna stop saying 1985.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Richard steals a Mercedes, a car. He drives out to the home of 83-year-old Maybelle and her 81-year-old sister Florence. Both of them live together. So Richard breaks into their home. and he goes straight to the kitchen and in the kitchen is where he finds a hammer. He runs into Florence first,
Starting point is 01:18:04 so he beat her with the hammer. And then he runs into Mabel, bounce her wrist together. He ends up beating her and he gets electrical cords and he gives both women electric shocks using this cord. He then proceeds to rape Florence and yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:25 So, great. So great. Then he grabs a lipstick he sees and he draws like a pentagram on poor Mabel's thigh as well as one of the walls in the bedroom. The women were actually discovered two days later and they were both still alive at the time and transferred to the hospital. On July 2nd, Richard stole a Toyota and he randomly selected the house of 75-year-old Mary. He quietly entered the home and found her asleep in her bed.
Starting point is 01:18:56 bedroom. He then beat her until she was unconscious with a lamp. He then tried to find any valuables in the home and left. She was later discovered dead at the crime scene. Oh, it keeps going. Then July 7th, Richard broke into the home of 61-year-old Joyce. She was asleep on her living room couch. Richard beat her to death and kicked her in the head, which ended up leaving a clear shoe print from his sneaker. on her face. And then after this attack, Richard decided that he needed a better tool to commit these crimes he was doing. So he goes and he buys a machete. I don't know. If I'm like a store owner or something and some guy comes in and randomly buys just a machete, I feel like that would be a red flag. Oh, you're buying a machete? Okay, yeah, let me just take your information really quick. I haven't heard any good stories with a machete. Anyways, so he buys a machete. Richard keeps stealing cars and then he wipes them down, he ditches it somewhere, and he moves on to the next. So he drives out to a home of 66-year-old Lila and her 68-year-old husband, Max, bursts into the
Starting point is 01:20:08 couple's bedroom where they were asleep, kills both of them with the machete. And then after he knew that they were dead or he thought that they were dead, he then shoots him in the head and then robs their house and takes all of their valuables. So that same night, July 20th at 4 a.m. Richard breaks into another home. It was a husband and a wife and they were asleep in their bed. Richard shot the husband, which killed him instantly, and then he bound and raped the wife. Then the couple had an eight-year-old son. The eight-year-old son came walking in because he hears like noise going on in his parents' bedroom. So he goes into the room to see what's going on. Richard sees the eight-year-old. He bounds him up and he drags the eight-year-old around the
Starting point is 01:20:54 telling him to show him where the valuables were. And it was said that during this time, when he's dragging the little boy around, he demanded that he, quote, swear to Satan that he was not hiding any money from him. He left the child bound in the home. The child was able to get out and run to the neighbor's house for help.
Starting point is 01:21:15 How are we doing? Are we okay if you need to leave? Completely understand. When you read about these, it's easy to just think of them as like a character in a way, or just like not real. And then when you remember that it's a real person who really did these things, you're like, what the?
Starting point is 01:21:30 What? You know, it's just what? Moving on to August 8th, Richard steals another car. And he chose the home of 27-year-old Sakina and her 31-year-old husband, Elias. At this point, sometime after 2.30 a.m., so he enters the home and he just walks into the master bedroom where if they are asleep, He shoots and kills Elias, then he handcuffs Sakina
Starting point is 01:21:55 while forcing her to reveal the locations of like the family jewelry and it was said that Richard repeatedly demanded that she quote, swear on Satan that she would not scream during his assaults. Sure, Richard, sure. He ends up just taking any valuables he saw and then he leaves the home. Now during all this time, I mean, police keep finding these victims
Starting point is 01:22:18 and they are linking them all together, thinking that there is indeed like a serial killer out there. But they hadn't made any like public announcement about it. They didn't want to draw attention too much and like scare Richard away. Then a televised press conference had taken place and it was during this conference which they ended up giving Richard the name the Night Stalker.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Now during this press conference is when they tell viewers to lock their doors, lock their windows because someone is coming and it could be any of you. Like they were putting some serious fear into anyone who was watching, which I mean they weren't really wrong because Richard was out here like killing people just at random. This press conference ended up pissing a lot of people off, especially the LA detectives because they knew Richard was going to be watching and they knew that Richard was going to like make a run for it
Starting point is 01:23:13 or destroy any type of evidence that he may have in his possession. So LA detectives were like pissed off that they had this media conference about it. I mean, they were right. Richard was indeed watching. Richard saw this and knew that everyone was onto him. He then took his sneakers because they had mentioned in this media conference that they had.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Do you remember when they found like his footprints in the garden area when he broke out of a house? Well, they found out like what kind of sneaker it was. So they made an announcement about what kind of sneaker it was, any little bit of information they had. Richard then takes his sneakers that were linked to the crimes, drives up to San Francisco, he then goes to the Golden Gate Bridge,
Starting point is 01:23:57 and he drops his sneaker off of the Golden Gate Bridge into the water. He at that time remained in the San Francisco area for a few more days, and then for some reason he goes back to the Los Angeles area. I don't know why. I mean, it's a good thing he did, because he gets caught, but like, you know, mm-hmm, he drives back to the Los Angeles area. to the Los Angeles area and then on August 24th, Richard gets that itch or that urge
Starting point is 01:24:22 to break into someone else's house again. So he drives a little bit outside the Los Angeles area and he is kind of lurking outside of a home. Inside was a 13 year old boy named James and he was awake and he hears footsteps outside the window. At this point, everybody had heard about this night stalker so everybody was like just freaked out. This James boy, he hears him,
Starting point is 01:24:46 hears like footsteps and naturally he's like, it's the night stalker. So he runs and he wakes up his parents and they're being just really loud and making sure that whoever's outside is like hearing them, right? This freaks Richard out and he gets into a stolen car. So James, this 13 year old boy, he runs outside, brave, had a little notepad and he noted the color, the make and model of the car that Richard was speeding off in. And James was also able to get just a few numbers and letters from the license plate. James contacted the police and handed over what he knew or what he saw.
Starting point is 01:25:22 The stolen vehicle that Richard was driving in, they found it on August 28th. They were able to get like a fingerprint from the rear view mirror. Even though Richard was really good at like wiping down the vehicle, he just missed like one little fingerprint. Police are excited about this,
Starting point is 01:25:40 like they got a fingerprint, okay? So they go back and they're able to get a positive ID the fingerprint and now they had a name for this serial killer who's been just causing chaos. This fingerprint belongs to someone named Richard Ramirez. They see that he's like a 25-year-old drifter from Texas and he had a long rap sheet that included many arrests for traffic and drug violations. So law enforcement decided to release to the media a mugshot of Richard that they had on file. So they do another media conference and they publicly address Richard because they know he's watching and they say, we know who you are, everyone else will too, and there will be
Starting point is 01:26:20 no place for you to hide. Which I feel like is such a ballsy move when you address the killer on camera. I feel like that to them, they take it as like a challenge, like, oh yeah, watch me, you know, and I just, I don't know, I don't know if that's a good thing or not. It doesn't matter. Okay, cool. So then, August 30th, Richard decided to take a bus to Tucson, Arizona. That's where his brother was living. So his brother at this time, I guess, was completely unaware what was going on. Now, every newspaper and TV program in California was running this story. Okay, it was everywhere and you couldn't avoid it. But I don't know so much if in Tucson it was. Anyways, Richard ends up not meeting with his brother, so he takes the bus out to Tucson and then gets back on the bus
Starting point is 01:27:06 and goes back to Los Angeles. What I've gathered, perhaps, maybe, I'm not really sure, But I think it's because he was worried to put his brother in jeopardy and then now involve him on his crimes. But that is still kind of like unclear, so I don't really know. But he gets back on the bus and he goes back to Los Angeles. So then on August 31st, Richard gets off of the bus and he's walking and he looks over and he sees like a newspaper rack, right? Has magazines, newspapers, everything.
Starting point is 01:27:38 And on the newspaper rack, it was just every single newspaper had his picture on the front. So he sees this and it sends him into a full-blown panic, a meltdown. He takes off running on foot and he tries to run across the freeway, stops a car, it's a woman, he tries to carjack her. Other people nearby who have slowed down and they see this happening so then they prevent him
Starting point is 01:28:03 from carjacking this woman. Richard gets like exhausted by all this so he takes off and he hops over like several fences attempting two more carjacks Now, this is the good part, because he ends up in East LA, rough. So he ends up in the wrong part of the neighborhood. Perfect, right? Love that. His dumbass tries to stop one of the cars driving down the street.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Luckily, there were people outside, like a group of guys hanging outside. So they see this happening and they're like, no, and they attack Richard. One of them had struck Richard over the head with a metal bar and it prevented him from getting away, it like knocked him out, you know? The group ends up just taking turns,
Starting point is 01:28:46 beating the shit out of him and holding him down until police came. So Richard gets arrested and put in prison and is waiting for his court date. So at his first court appearance, you know, there's press there and stuff. And Richard had carved a pentagram on his hand, so he's showing it to like the cameras and stuff.
Starting point is 01:29:06 And he just yells, Hail Satan. Lots of Satan stuff on his body. Then on August 3rd, 1988, the Los Angeles Times reported that jail employees had overheard Richard planning to shoot the prosecutor with a gun. And then Richard was really bragging that he was going to smuggle like a gun into the courtroom and how he was going to do it and all that. And they install a metal detector outside the courtroom.
Starting point is 01:29:32 So then August 14th, the trial was interrupted because one of the jurors did not arrive to the courtroom. and later that day she was found shot to death in her apartment. So naturally, the jury was terrified. They were all thinking it was Richard that he somehow directed this to happen from inside his prison cell. And now everyone, especially the jury, was really afraid for their own lives
Starting point is 01:29:59 because, you know, one of them, I don't, I'm just trying to do my duty, you know, and I don't want to put my life at risk. I don't blame them. I want to go. Heck no. Later on, it was determined that Richard was actually not responsible for this lady's death, and it was, it was like her boyfriend shot and killed her. Ugh, just what is going on? Just what is going on, you know? Like, how awful. Now, this is the part that extra pisses me off. I mean, this whole story pisses me off. Don't get me wrong. Mm-hmm. Media was covering this story. They were showing Richard's photo everywhere. A lot of people thought he was a good-looking guy that he was very hot.
Starting point is 01:30:38 had fans. He was getting hundreds of letters. They loved him. They were a fan of his work. There were also a lot of people paying him a visit while he was in prison. One of the ladies who was a big fan, her name was Doreen,
Starting point is 01:30:53 and she wrote him nearly like 75 letters during his incarceration, and they were in love. And then during his trial, women were just flocking to the courtroom to get a glimpse of him. They were screaming like it was Justin Bieber. Well, people don't really scream for Justin Bieber anymore.
Starting point is 01:31:10 They were screaming like it was, you know, fan girls. Now, many of these fans believed that he was innocent. He's innocent, he didn't do this. Even though everything points to him, that one juror, she got shot and she died. So she ends up being replaced by another woman. Her name is Cindy, and Cindy was infatuated, in love with, obsessed with Richard.
Starting point is 01:31:35 How she got on the jury, I don't know. she is just making googly eyes with Richard, like, oh my God, and she would write him little notes and stuff and write him letters in prison. Richard love this, okay? Because he thought with her on his side, he could have a chance of getting a hung jury. So he is making sure to give her eye contact
Starting point is 01:31:56 when he's like in court, you know, that kind of stuff. September 30th, 1989, Richard was convicted of all charges, 13 counts of murder, five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults, and 14 burglaries. Burglari, sorry. During the penalty phase of the trial on November 7th, he was sentenced to die in California's gas chamber, which they don't even do anymore,
Starting point is 01:32:23 so he just sat there. Now, Richard ended up being upset with Cindy the juror because she didn't have his back, disappointed that he got the death sentence. She would later go on to do a few TV appearances, insisting that he had been poorly represented and he wasn't deserving of the death sentence. How do you do that?
Starting point is 01:32:43 Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, just set better standards for yourself. You deserve better. All right, I'm glad we had this talk. In 1988, do you remember Doreen? They were in love too. He had a lot of like girlfriends and stuff. Anyways, Doreen, Richard ended up like proposing to her
Starting point is 01:33:00 and they get married on October 3rd, 1996. They were married in the California, San Quentin State Prison. We should just do a video dedicated to like San Quentin State Prison because that's where they're all at, field trip. But Doreen would eventually leave Richard. She found out that he had killed a nine-year-old and this upset her, so she broke it off with him.
Starting point is 01:33:21 But I guess none of the other murders really matter to her. Be better. And get better idols, get better idols, okay? Doreen, darling, hey, do better, okay? Richard was waiting for his execution date, and this is when he became very unwell, very sick. His health just fell apart and he ended up passing away at the age of 53.
Starting point is 01:33:44 He had been sitting on death row for more than 23 years. There's this museum out here, it's called the Museum of Death. There's one here in Los Angeles and there's one in New Orleans as well. I've been to the one out here in Los Angeles, been a couple of times. You are not allowed to film in there, take photos, anything, or I would show you guys what it looks like inside. it's intense, it's intense. Collection of serial killer stuff,
Starting point is 01:34:11 lots of graphic images, wall to wall, to wall, every corner is stuffed with something. When you walk in, it's like, it's heavy. Anyways, what I'm getting at is in the Museum of Death here in Los Angeles, they actually have a lot of letters from Richard, they're on display, and you could see a picture book, all the different pictures that he got from fan girls,
Starting point is 01:34:35 while he was in prison. These girls just trying to be all cute and sexy. Yay, Satan. And then they would send it to him and they would write letters expressing their love. Oh, it's mind-blowing. Some of the things that these girls would do for him was very scary.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Over the years, Richard did keep in touch with his fans and whatnot. I was reading some trivia questions. Fun facts about Richard Ramirez. Hey, Richard, what's your favorite food. Tell us. Your fans want to know. Richard's response was, quote, women's feet. All right, Richard, tell us, tell us. What's your biggest like? What's something you absolutely love?
Starting point is 01:35:18 His response, quote, cocaine. Hey, Richard, tell us what's your favorite vacation spot? Vacations. Richard said, quote, Uranus, end quote. Hey, Richard, one last question for your fans. If you like a girl, how do you get her to notice you? Richard said, quote, I pull my gun out, end quote. So that was the Richard Ramirez, fun facts I learned. Very heavy story, I think we can all agree.
Starting point is 01:35:46 It's very sad. He was the legit boogeyman. People that a lot of us fear, you know, someone breaking into your home and just, oh, that is a lot of our nightmares. That is the story about Richard Ramirez, the Nightstalker. I would love to hear your thoughts down below.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I appreciate you guys so much for tuning in and hanging out with me. I hope you have a wonderful day today. You make good choices. Be better and get better idols. You deserve it. And I'll be seeing you guys later. Bye.
Starting point is 01:36:27 Ted, Ted, Ted, Ted's early years. Ted's early years, okay? Eleanor Louise Cowell, who was went by Louise, was 22 years old and unmarried when she gave birth to her son Theodore Bundy. And Ted was born on November 24th, 1946. So he's a sad. So Louise delivered Ted at a home for unwed mothers
Starting point is 01:36:53 in Vermont and later brought her new son to her parents' home in Philadelphia. Now Ted's father may have been a man named Lloyd Marshall who was an Air Force veteran and a Penn State graduate, according to Anne Rule, a coworker of Ted's. She was also an author of the book, The Stranger Beside Me.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Other forces had Ted's father named Jack Worthington, while some rumors had it that his father was also his grandfather. On Ted's birth certificate, there's a little section where you put who the father is. Father was listed as unknown. His biological father's identity honestly may never be confirmed, but there are just a ton of different
Starting point is 01:37:35 rumors as far as who it could be and a lot of speculation as well. Honestly, my thought process on that whole thing is like, I'm sure the father, Ted's biological father, doesn't like want to claim him at this point, you know? So we'll probably never know. And that's fine. It's really none of our business. Now Ted's mother, her name's Eleanor, like I had mentioned, she was brought up by parents who were very religious and having a baby at 22 years old without a husband, scandalous. You know, like, I feel like this is very common in a lot of our stories. It was very frowned upon. You just didn't do that, right?
Starting point is 01:38:09 And still, in some places, it is considered still to be scandalous. You just don't do that. Anyways, so to hide the fact that the father was unknown, Ted was raised by his grandparents as an adopted baby. And in his early years, he was led to believe that his mother was instead his sister, which I'm sure was confusing because then as a toddler, Ted and now his mother moved to Tacoma, Washington. It's like one minute that's your sister, the next minute, it's like, oh, that's my mom now.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Talk about confusing for the poor child. In 1951, Ted's mother, Luis, she would marry a man named Johnny Bundy, and that's how Ted got the last name, Bundy. So Ted took his stepfather's last name, but it said that their relationship was not very good. Ted resented his stepfather for being uneducated and working class, lower to working class. like he wasn't making money. He just didn't like that. But Louise and Johnny would go on to have several children together
Starting point is 01:39:09 and just be a little happy family. Now it was said at a young age, Ted was displaying odd fascinations with death, murder, morbid, and gory topics. And it was said at the age of three, Ted, was obsessed with knives, like very interested in knives, shiny, sharp. He would be playing with them
Starting point is 01:39:31 or he would like to collect them. And this was odd because, well, he was three. Now as a student, Ted was intelligent and did very well in school. But socially, he had a hard time making friends. He struggled being social, but he was overall like a great student. And then when he became a teenager, puberty hit and his behavior started to go off track a little bit there. Ted on his free time would enjoy peeping in people's windows
Starting point is 01:40:01 and would often steal things that he wanted without showing any type of remorse or guilt. He would sneak off at night time, go look inside somebody's window, watch somebody on dress, you know, just being a little perv. And that's illegal too, so don't do that. Kind of similar to the night stalker.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Remember, if you watched that video, he did the same thing, he was a peeping tom and pretty, when he was a teenager. Huh. Now Ted would enroll into the University of Washington and while there, he met and fell in love with a young lady from California. Ted would say that he was attracted to her because she had everything that he always wanted and desired.
Starting point is 01:40:40 She had class, influence, and money, where he came from a family of lower class, no influence, and no money. But the two did start dating. When she decided to end the relationship, he was devastated. And later it became apparent that many of his victims resembled her, long, dark hair and attractive. Ted would go on to graduate from the University of Washington with a degree in psychology in 1972. He had also been accepted through law school in Utah, but he would never earn his degree.
Starting point is 01:41:14 You know, Ted was a pretty smart cookie. In 1969, Ted began a six-year relationship with a woman named Elizabeth, who he met at a bar in Seattle. Elizabeth was a single mother of a young daughter, and she struggled with alcoholism, but Ted said that he took care of her and she referred to Ted as quote,
Starting point is 01:41:35 warm and loving. By the mid-1970s, Ted had become more outwardly confident and active in social and political matters. Ted even got a letter of recommendation from the Republican governor of Washington after working on his campaign. Many would describe Ted as charismatic,
Starting point is 01:41:55 kind, empathetic, and quite handsome. Now having all of these personality traits, Well, handsome isn't a personality trait. But having all this, like, mixed together, a bundled pack, would actually end up helping him gain people's trust. People loved him. It helped him get victims in his, in what the fuck he was doing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:42:16 It helped him out a lot. I think, honestly, that's why. And yeah, I don't even think. I know. I know that's why people are obsessed with him because he was charismatic. He was handsome. That's pretty much why. And I think that's why people got so obsessed with him.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Like, how could this handsome guy be really? responsible for all of these murders. I just can't believe it. Well, I'm here to tell you, Kid Cats, you know, a murderer does not look like a specific thing like we think. There are some murderers who definitely fit that idea of murderer in our minds,
Starting point is 01:42:45 but there are a lot who don't. Ted is a great example. You know how normally I do these videos? I kind of go into like the whole story leading up to what happened and whatnot. Well, there's like, look, there's a lot. So I'm just gonna like jump into the murders part. So Ted would later on confess
Starting point is 01:43:00 to 36 killings of young women across several states in the 1970s. And experts believe that the final tally of victims may be closer to 100 or more. The exact number of women Ted killed honestly will never be known, unfortunately. His killings usually followed a gruesome pattern. He often raped his victims before beating them to death.
Starting point is 01:43:24 And there is some debate as to when Ted started killing. Most sources say that it, where he began his murderous rampage around 1974. Around this time, many women in the Seattle area and in nearby Oregon went missing. I mean, a ton of women. Stories circulated about some of the victims last being seen in the company of a young,
Starting point is 01:43:48 dark-haired man known as Ted. You know, I don't know why he didn't think to use a fake name. This Ted guy would often lure his victims into his car by pretending to be injured and asking for their help, And it's sad because their kindness and willingness to help this guy, like it killed them, which is awful. Okay, I had to put my hair back
Starting point is 01:44:08 and I know I look crazy, it doesn't matter. Okay, so Ted would often go back to the bodies after he killed them and disposed of them. And being the sicko that he is, he would perform sexual acts, sadly with the corpses. And it said that he would continue to do this until the bodies were so decomposed or damaged by wild animals
Starting point is 01:44:29 that it was no longer to have physical contact with them. So at least 12 of Ted's victims were decapitated and some of their heads were believed to be kept in his apartment for a small amount of time. And like many serial killers, you know, they keep their trophies, as they call it, something to remember the killing from.
Starting point is 01:44:50 But Ted kept the heads as his trophies. It said that Ted got a great deal of enjoyment reliving his crimes simply by looking at or touching the severed heads of his victims. So I'm gonna read some of his victims that were linked to Ted for sure. I'm not gonna mention their names just because I don't have permission to do so
Starting point is 01:45:09 to use their names, so I just don't feel like it's, I should. Plus, I feel like I can't give the victims a proper backstory because there's a lot, there's a lot. So I just think it's best if I leave their names out of it. Do you get what I'm saying? I hope so. These victims were for sure linked to Ted. Let me grab my book, my handy dandy book, I guess I could just read some, right?
Starting point is 01:45:32 This is just like a timeline, okay? Timeline of known murders. February 1st, 1974, a 21 year old woman, she was bludgeoned while she was sleeping and abducted. And abducted, sorry, I don't mean to sound so happy. Her skull and her jawbone were discovered at Taylor Mountain in Sonoma County, California. March 12, 1974, a 19 year old woman was also abducted,
Starting point is 01:45:57 but she was walking to a concert. That's when Ted got her, snatched her up, sadly murdered her, and then left her body at Taylor Mountain. She was never found, but Ted claims that he killed her for sure. They never found her, though, so it's like, what? Jeez. April 17th, 1974, an 18-year-old disappeared while attending a meeting at Central Washington State College. Her school and her jawbone were found at Taylor Mountain. May 6, 1974, 22-year-old, she goes missing from Oregon State University,
Starting point is 01:46:30 and also her skull was found at Taylor Mountain. June 1st, 1974, we have another 22-year-old. Now, she disappeared after leaving, it seems to be like a bar. Her school also found at Taylor Mountain. June 11th, 1974, an 18-year-old abducted from an alley behind her sorority house at the University of Washington. Her skeletal remains were found at Isoquois. Is it really truly a Bailey video, if I don't pronounce something incorrectly?
Starting point is 01:46:57 Her skeletal remains were found, and Ted has... gave a name a description of her. Oh, July 14th, 1974, 23 year old. She was abducted from Lake Sammamish. Samamish. Oh, Jesus, baby, get it together. Some days it goes really smoothly, and some days like today, I'm struggling.
Starting point is 01:47:17 We have a 23 year old and she was abducted from Lake Sammamish, hey? No, okay, it's a state park. But she was abducted in broad daylight and her skeletal remains were recovered at Isoquois, Washington. July 14th, 19th, We have a 19-year-old, and she was abducted four hours after the last or the previous victim.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Her skeletal remains were recovered at Izeka as well. So that's eight that were kind of located in the same area, Taylor Mountain and Iziqua. Correct? Yes. In the fall of 1974, Ted moved to Utah to attend law school. While there, coincidentally, women just began disappearing. I mean, he was doing work. And I don't mean to be funny at all, but it's just kind of crazy how many victims he had.
Starting point is 01:48:03 Like, how did he find the time? So Utah, Colorado, and Idaho. There were nine victims that were linked to Ted. And then in Florida, there were three. And as far as possible victims go, there were a ton. I will just read a few. We have October 2nd, 1974. There was a 16-year-old who was ambushed, assaulted, and strangled
Starting point is 01:48:25 in Holiday, Utah. And according to Ted, her body, was buried near Capitol Reef National Park, which was 200 miles south of Salt Lake City. She sadly had never been found. We have another 17-year-old and she vanished after leaving school in Bountiful, Utah. Only her kneecap was found, but it was never formally identified as belonging to this victim. It was in the location that Ted said it was, but they couldn't connect it to the victim's Ted said it was. June 28th, 1975, there was a 15-year-old and she disappeared during a youth conference. Oh geez. And according to Ted, her body was buried near Prince
Starting point is 01:49:05 Utah, which was 75 miles southeast of Provo. But she has never been found. And the list goes on, man. There's just so many. A lot of the women that were linked to Ted was because Ted came forward, well, talk to detectives when he was in prison and told them, you know, who they were and where they were at. A lot of them just weren't found, and if they think they found them, it would just be bits and pieces of their remains, but not enough to actually link them or identify them. So it's like they were just trusting his word, which is like, why would they, why? I don't know. I guess they have to trust the killer. I mean, they have no one else to trust in that situation. So in 1974, Elizabeth, remember the lady that Ted was dating at the time? Now, she started to suspect that Ted was just up to no good. She's got that feeling. We all get it, that intuition. Something is not right. Elizabeth kind of, you know, would snoop around
Starting point is 01:50:06 and question things, like where did this come from? I don't remember him having this. She even went through his desk and he had a meat cleaver in his desk. And she would ask him like, why do you have a meat cleaver in your desk? Ted, he used his charm to deflect. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
Starting point is 01:50:24 He just reassured her, everything's fine. everything's good. Meat Cleaver. Never heard of her. But she just knew deep down that something wasn't right. That sucks. When you think about it, because a lot of the times, like, oh, I couldn't imagine, if you were, let's just say, side note, let's just say, you're married to a killer. Oh, that would fucking suck. Like, when you really think about it, like, you know how sometimes when you read about a killer or watching a whatever about a killer and they're married and you're like, how did you not know that he was doing something like that? Like naturally we want to question them.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Like, how did you really not know? But what if you really didn't know? And then all this comes out in the news and everyone's judging you? Like, yeah, bitch, sure, you didn't know. Like, that sucks. Someone you love, someone you cared about, you spent all these years with is a killer.
Starting point is 01:51:14 I believe that she really, she didn't know what was going on. She had that deep down feeling. She thought some things he was doing was really suspicion. But for the most part, I don't think she knew that he was, I don't think she actually knew what he was doing, married to a killer. That sucks. Something deep down was telling Elizabeth that, you know,
Starting point is 01:51:31 Ted was responsible for all these women who are just going missing. She would end up going to police with her suspicion of Ted's involvement in the local murders, but they didn't believe her that he was indeed the killer. And the two of them would end up remaining together, but they did grow pretty distant when Ted moved to a limit the following year.
Starting point is 01:51:53 And then in 1975, Elizabeth went to police again, this time with evidence that helped them to arrest Ted. Now, I guess Ted had called Elizabeth up and he had confessed to her over the phone from his prison cell that he had tried to kill her and couldn't resist his impulses when he felt, quote, his sickness building in him, end quote. She broke ties with Ted for good
Starting point is 01:52:18 and she ended up writing a book about it about it, about her experience with Ted, and it was titled The Phantom Prince, My Life with Ted Bundy. There's also a series on it, I believe, on Amazon, or was it a movie? So I mentioned that he got, he was calling from a prison cell. I know I'm kind of jumping around, but caught. Okay, so let's talk about how he got caught. So on August 16th, 1975, Ted failed to stop at a routine traffic stop and was caught and arrested by the Utah Highway Patrol officer in Salt Lake City. So this police officer pulls Ted over, not knowing who is in the car. And he comes up to the car and he's looking at the passenger seat.
Starting point is 01:52:58 And he notices that the passenger seat is missing, okay? Like, why is your passenger seat missing? Who has a missing seat? So he's looking, he's asking Ted, like, why is your seat missing? I know you didn't buy it like that, sir. The officer asked Ted to step out of the vehicle. And while the officer is searching Ted's car, that's when he comes across what he called a, quote,
Starting point is 01:53:17 murder kit, end quote, a murder. A murder kid. The items found included a mask made from pantyhose, a ski mask, handcuffs, rope, an ice pick, a crowbar, and a trash bag, as well as, well, trash bags, let me correct myself there, trash bags, as well as a number of tools. Well, like, you know, the ice pick, a hammer, tools.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Mm-hmm. So the police officer's like, if this doesn't scream, I'm doing something bad, then I don't know what does, you know? like this is the biggest red flag I've ever seen my life. Thank God, this officer didn't let him go like most officers in previous stories may have done. So the officer was like, hey buddy, I know you're not playing a game of clue, okay?
Starting point is 01:54:02 This is real life. What is all this? And Ted's trying to explain why he has all these items. He's like, these are just normal items that I had in my house. I'm bringing them back to my apartment. It's not a big deal. It just happens to look that way. Ted was known to be very charming.
Starting point is 01:54:18 He could talk his way out of just about anything. I was about to say I'm sure we've all met somebody like that, but maybe you haven't. I know I have for sure. I used to work with people like that who could just talk their way out of anything, probably because I worked retail and sales all my life, so I met a lot of people like that, you know?
Starting point is 01:54:34 Sellers, clothesers. Ted was like that. Anyway, so he's telling the officer like, yeah, I'm just taking this stuff back to my apartment. Like, it's not a big deal. I mean, don't you have a homemade mask at a panty hose officer? Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:54:47 But luckily, this, Police officer remembered the description of the car and suspect from a kidnapping in November of the previous year. And this description and the car, it matched Ted exactly. Good thinking officer, you know? So the officer tells Ted, you're under arrest and arrests him. And after Ted was arrested, his apartment was then searched. But oddly enough, when they searched his apartment, they didn't find anything at that time. I don't know where a lot of it was, but it wasn't there at his apartment.
Starting point is 01:55:18 because they didn't find anything, Ted was released and put on a 24-hour surveillance. I mean, if we exclude what we know now at the time it was like, we don't have anything on this guy, they can't hold him without any evidence, you know? They were doing what they had to. So during this period, detectives would then interview his previous girlfriend, Elizabeth, remember? And she was up in Seattle. She said that before Ted had moved to Utah, she came across some very odd items in her apartment, but also at Ted's home.
Starting point is 01:55:49 And they were like, go on because we couldn't find shit. She said that she found a bag of white, dry, mixed plaster of Paris, crutches, surgical gloves, a sack of women's clothing, and a meat cleaver. So she's telling detectives all this. Now she would go on to say that Ted, he was in debt. Like throughout his whole adult life, he was constantly in debt. He never really had much money to his name,
Starting point is 01:56:13 and he seemed to steal everything that he possessed. When she, Elizabeth, confronted him about a new TV and a stereo that he had gotten, she's like, where the hell did you get that? Well, I'm sure she didn't say that. She's asked him, though, like, where did you get this? He warned her and said, quote, if you tell anyone, I'll break your fucking neck, end quote. So she's like, all right, you know? Like, shit, she's just asking.
Starting point is 01:56:37 She also said that Ted would become very upset whenever she considered cutting her hair. And her hair, it was very long, brown, and it was parted to. down the middle, just how Ted liked it. And a lot of his victims had longer hair. So she told detectives this. Like he just got mad whenever I wanted to cut my hair and then obviously he was stealing shit, but I don't know where he was getting the shit.
Starting point is 01:57:01 So at that time, Ted was driving a Volkswagen Beetle. When he got arrested, they had to, you know, they went through his apartment and stuff and they also needed to retrieve his Volkswagen Beetle, which Ted had sold to just a young teenager, which was like an easy way to get rid of it, know. So they went and they got the Volkswagen Beetle. And they were quite lucky actually because the new owner hadn't done any like deep cleaning and they put it under forensic testing.
Starting point is 01:57:28 They found hairs in the vehicle that matched to three different women who I think two of them were missing. One of them was still alive. And they were able to get the victim that was still alive. She had escaped Ted's attempt to kidnap and murder her and she was going to press charges, right? Ted was then put in a lineup and he was with some other men and they brought in this victim who had escaped and they asked her to point out, is any of these men the one who attempted to kidnap you? And she was able to point Ted out right away
Starting point is 01:58:00 and she said that Ted pretended to be quote, Officer Roseland, end quote. And she was certain that Ted was the man that took her. For some gross reason, despite being charged with aggravated kidnapping and attempted criminal assaults from the victim who got away, Ted was led out of jail once again on bail. Awesome. Usually that goes so great, you know?
Starting point is 01:58:24 I mean, how many chances does this guy get? So Ted, while he was out, he was just kind of doing his own thing, but then he was brought back in in February of 1976 for the case of the woman who had escaped and was found guilty. He was sentenced to up to 15 years in prison on June 30th, 1976.
Starting point is 01:58:42 Now this is just for the one woman who had escaped. This was not for any of the other murders or anything he had done. This is just for the one lady, which is great. Like they caught him 15 years, prison. While he's in prison, at least he's there and we could get him for all the other stuff that he did. But Ted had remained in prison only up until October of 1976 because that's when he was able to escape prison and make a run for it. Very rare that you hear about people escaping prison, you know? Ted was then found not long after how hiding in some bushes out on the prison grounds. And once he was caught, he was sent to solitary confinement
Starting point is 01:59:22 and he would be in there for several weeks, which that will make you definitely lose it. That same month that Ted was able to escape from prison, he was charged with the murder of a woman in Aspen and he was transferred for the trial and chose to represent himself in court, meaning he was excused from being handcuffed or shackled. Pretty smart, huh?
Starting point is 01:59:43 So at one point, Ted had asked to visit the law library, which was located in the courthouse so he can conduct research for his case, and he was given permission. Q-I-roll, I mean, I think legally they have to, right? I don't know. Okay, anyways, Ted noticed, once he entered the library,
Starting point is 02:00:02 that somebody had left open a window, okay? So in this room he's in, he notices, oh, the fucking window's open. When everyone left the room, it was just him for a split second, he jumped out of the second story window and escaped. He would end up being recaptured, but it wasn't until eight days later.
Starting point is 02:00:21 This wasn't the last time he would attempt to escape either. He kept escaping, okay? And then there was another time in December, Ted would escape from custody again. He climbed out of a hole he made in the ceiling of his cell. Now, he was dedicated. I guess he really had nothing else to do, but he dropped more than 30 pounds
Starting point is 02:00:40 so he could fit through the small opening he had made in the ceiling of his cell. At night, Ted would practice climbing through it and navigating the crawl space. He was able to break free on December 30th, 1977. Ted piled books on his bed and covered it with a blanket so it just looked like he was sleeping on his bed
Starting point is 02:01:00 if somebody walked by. Then he climbed through the ceiling hole. He then dropped down into the chief jailer's apartment who luckily, he just seems to be full of luck, this guy, but this man just has, just happened to be out for the night. So Ted drops into the apartment and stole his clothes and then just walks out the front door.
Starting point is 02:01:21 I'm laughing because it's just so stupid. I guess he's smart, he's smart. Or everybody's just dumb. Ted was missing for 15 hours, which gave him a big head start. Holy shit, that's a long time, 15 hours. It just now clicked. When you really think about it, that's a full day
Starting point is 02:01:36 they thought he was sleeping in his bed. Books are kind of like have hard edges. How did that look like a person? Whatever. One of Ted's most brutal attacks occurred on January 15th, 1978, while he was on the run after escaping jail. In the early hours of the morning, he made his way into Florida State University Sorority House.
Starting point is 02:01:57 And at around 2.45 a.m., he attacked a 21-year-old woman with a piece of firewood as she was sleeping in her bed. He then used a nylon stocking to strangle her. And then when she passed, he moved on and he went to another sleeping, 20-year-old woman's room, and Ted beat her until she was unconscious, then strangled her. With this victim, he tore off one of her nipples and then bit her butt, her buttocks and assaulted her sexually with a bottle. The bite mark left on this victim would actually, I don't want to say
Starting point is 02:02:34 it was a good thing, but in a way, good thing, because it would later prove Ted's connection to these murders in the first place because he left a mark and they were able to prove that these were Ted's teeth later on in court, which is like so random. No, fucking life is just crazy, right? Like this is some crazy shit. Once he was done with this victim, he went into the bedroom next door and Ted attacked the two women who were asleep in there. One of the women had her jaw broken and her shoulder was like almost cut off. And the other woman received a concussion, a broken jaw, broken finger, and some of her teeth were knocked out. All four women were attacked within 15 minutes, so it was really quick. I mean really quick. After fleeing from the sorority house,
Starting point is 02:03:22 Ted broke into an apartment and attacked another woman student from the university. She suffered a dislocated shoulder, a broken jaw. Her skull was fractured in five places and she was left permanently death. She luckily survived. On February 9th, Ted kidnapped and murdered. a 12-year-old girl and then fled. These crimes marked the end of his murderous rampage because once again, Ted was pulled over by a police officer on February 15th. He stole a vehicle and he's driving
Starting point is 02:03:54 and he's trying to get anywhere, right? He's making a run for it. Police pulled him over and when they ran the plates, they saw that this vehicle was marked as stolen. So when the officer came back to Ted and informed him that he was under arrest, Ted flipped, he's like, I don't want to go back to jail, he kicks him and then he runs off.
Starting point is 02:04:13 The police officer fired two warning shots, rare, then chased him. He caught up to Ted and he tackled him, they struggled, they fought, but luckily this officer was able to get Ted under arrest. Thank God, finally, you know? Well, I mean, how many chances did this guy get? He got too many chances.
Starting point is 02:04:34 Once they placed Ted under arrest, they searched the vehicle again, and inside the vehicle, they see, see three sets of IDs belonging to women from the Florida State University. It was the woman that he just attacked. They also found 21 stolen credit cards and a stolen television set.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Like, where's he going with that? Like, where are you going? Why take the TV at that point? You know, like you're not, okay. While in prison, because he was under arrest, taken to prison. While in prison in February of 1980, there was a woman named Carol Ann Boone.
Starting point is 02:05:05 She was a mother of two. Ted and Carol, they both had dated before his initial arrest. And in the courtroom during the penalty phase of his trial, he proposed and she accepted in the presence of the judge, making the marriage legitimate in Florida. So the two of them got married. The couple had met six years earlier
Starting point is 02:05:26 when they both worked at the Department of Emergency Services. And then Carol gave birth to a daughter. Her name was Rose in 1982. And Ted was listed as the father of this baby. Not much is known about Rose today. Honestly, I mean, like, just leave it alone, you know? Unless they wanna speak, has she spoke? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:05:46 I don't know. I just don't look up the kids and whatnot. I don't know, you can always feel free to dig around, but I just don't wanna put out there on my channel, like the kid, you know, you know? Okay, anyways. So Carol, eventually, eventually it took her some time, but she realized that Ted actually was guilty
Starting point is 02:06:03 of all these crimes. She's like, oh my God, really did do it, you sicko. And then she ended up divorcing him three years prior to his execution. According to her book, her book is called A Stranger Beside Me. She stopped visiting Ted during the last two years of his imprisonment. And then in June of 1979, Ted would stand trial for the homicides and assaults that had taken place at the sorority house. The ones that he did when he escaped prison, remember?
Starting point is 02:06:31 We talked about it a couple minutes ago. The trial was covered by 250 reporters from five continents and was the first to be televised nationally in the U.S. I know, because we needed that. On February 10th, 1980, Ted was sentenced to death by electrocution. As the sentence was announced, he reportedly stood up and shouted, quote, tell the jury they were wrong, end quote. Now, he was sentenced to death, but it wouldn't be carried out
Starting point is 02:06:59 until nine years later. So for nine years, he sat in prison. Ted confessed to two detectives from Idaho, Utah, and Colorado that he had committed numerous additional homicides, including several that were unknown to the police. So Ted would admit that there were other remains and other victims buried in Colorado when he was telling this to detectives and investigators while he's in prison. And when they would ask, well, can you tell us where, can you tell us who? Can you tell you, you know, can you elaborate? Ted refused to. And in cases where he did give details, nothing was.
Starting point is 02:07:33 found. And it was believed that Ted would come forward with new information about other victims as a way to push back his execution date further and further. He was just buying himself more time. They can't kill this guy when he has all this information. Ted would eventually be put in the electric chair on January 24th, 1989. He was 42 years old. Now many people celebrated when it was announced Ted was dead. People sang, danced, and set off fireworks across the street from the prison as the execution was carried out. Then they cheered loudly as the hearse like drove off from the prison to carry Ted to wherever he was going.
Starting point is 02:08:11 People are you cheering, holding up their little whews, you know? His body was cremated in Gainesville and his ashes were said to be scattered at an undisclosed location in Washington State. Ted remains or remained a suspect in several unsolved homicides and is likely responsible for others that may never be. identified, which is fucking awful. That's where I get really torn about the death penalty, especially in a case like this. Like, yeah, he deserves to die and to suffer for what he did,
Starting point is 02:08:44 but if there's still a lot of information they can share, it's like, shouldn't you try and get that out? I mean, they try, whatever. He's dead. Not much we can do about it. During a conversation in 1987, he confided in the county detective that there were some murders he would never, ever talk about because they were, quote, too close to home, too close to family, or involved, quote, victims who were very young. In 2011, Ted's DNA profile was added to the FBI's database for future reference in hopes to close other unsolved murder cases. Also, Ted's 1968 Volkswagen Beetle was displayed in the National Museum of Crime and Punishment in Washington, D.C. Now it's currently at the Alcatraz East Crime Museum in Tennessee.
Starting point is 02:09:32 So you can go there and see his Volkswagen. There are many, many, many, many, many, many, books, movies, TV series, docu-series, documentaries, interviews. There's a shit ton. About Ted, his story, there are some from his surviving victims as well. And that, my friends, is just a little snippet about Ted Bundy. He was very awful. He was really gross. Unfortunately, we'll just probably never get closure as far as how many of the
Starting point is 02:09:57 he had, how many there were, where they are, like that sucks. That fucking sucks. Let me know your thoughts down below. Ted also has become not an icon, maybe an icon. He has a lot of fans. He has a lot of fans. Just like with the Nightstalker and Jeffrey Dahmer, lots of fans.
Starting point is 02:10:16 You know what's kind of interesting to me? Ted Bundy and the Nightstalker, they had very similar stories. They like the attention, they like the media, and I think they just overall enjoyed the spot light, right? But they kind of have a lot of similarities. Anyways, I want to say a big thank you to you guys for hanging out with me today. I hope you have a wonderful day today. You make good choices. Please, please, please, please be safe out there. I would say be careful, like don't talk to strangers. But I feel like a lot of his victims were just trying to like be nice and
Starting point is 02:10:45 and just help him. You know, which is so sad because it's like I don't want to say don't be nice to people. Listen to your intuition. I don't know. Oh shit. Anyways, let me know your thoughts down below. I hope you have a wonderful day today. I already said all this, didn't I? Please be safe out there. And I'll be seeing you guys later. Bye. And you know, like, oh my God, I love them, great. And then you have no idea what's really going on in their house, hiding in their closets, or maybe even below their floorboards, for that matter. Today's story is about a family man who was, like, involved with his local community.
Starting point is 02:11:40 He seemed to be very well respected in his neighborhood and his friends loved him. And he would even spend his free time volunteering at hospitals and, like, charity events. And sometimes he would do so. dressing like a clown to entertain kids. You may be familiar with this story. That's right, we're talking about John Wayne Gacy. So John Wayne Gacy was born on St. Patrick's Day, so March 17th, 1942, to a man by the name of John Stanley Gacy
Starting point is 02:12:15 and his mom, Marion, Elaine Robinson. Sorry, I mean, what did you expect me to pronounce everything correctly? I don't think that's how you say your name. It doesn't matter. But John Wayne Gacy, he was named after John Wayne, the Hollywood actor, super famous for all the Westerns, which side note, not long ago, I went to an estate sale and it was like not far from where I live.
Starting point is 02:12:43 And it was the home of a John Wayne impersonator. I guess he was like the body double for the actual John Wayne, super old guy, but it was an estate cell, so RIP. Anyways, so he had the coolest stuff and I got to, I bought one of his hats. Yeah. Anyways, back to story. Okay, so John Wayne Gacy, he was the middle child.
Starting point is 02:13:02 He was sandwiched between two sisters and they grew up on the north side of Chicago. Like many of the people we talk about here, John did not have the best childhood, okay? He had, I guess he was born with a heart condition that would prevent him from playing sports or engaging in outdoor activities, which led to him not being very athletic
Starting point is 02:13:23 or participating in, in sports with the other boys, you know, and it led to him just being a little bit overweight when he was growing up. It was said that he was super close with his mom and his sisters, but life with his dad was super rough. His dad was said to be an abusive alcoholic who was physically abusive to his wife
Starting point is 02:13:43 and all three of the kids, and John seemed to suffer the most abuse from his father, maybe because he was the only boy, but not good, you know, just not good. Sometimes John's dad would, verbally abuse him. But more often than not, it was physical abuse. One of John's earliest memories was being beaten with his father's leather belt after he accidentally messed up some car engine parts his dad had laying out. Like he touched them and he wasn't supposed to and he messed him up and
Starting point is 02:14:13 his dad just got pissed. And if his mom stepped in and tried to protect him from his father, John Sr. would call his son a cissy or a mama's boy, and he told his son, you're probably going to grow up queer. That's what he would say. Super supportive father, as you can tell. Now, John was exposed to, like, sexual stuff at a really early age. At the age of five, he said that he was fondled, or, like, touched by an older girl.
Starting point is 02:14:41 And then in 1949, when John was, like, six or seven years old, he and another boy were caught fondling a young girl. Now when his dad found out, because I guess his dad found out, he beat the crap out of John pretty badly, which is kind of, you know, whatever. I guess this beating had like a lasting impression on him, and he became super terrified of his father after that.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Because John was so afraid of his father, it obviously didn't allow open communication to go on between the two of them. And at one point, John was being molested, by one of the family friends and he was like just eight years old. And this guy, he was a family friend, would take John out for ice cream and then would show him different wrestling holds. I'm using quotes here.
Starting point is 02:15:29 So John never said anything because he thought his dad was going to blame him for being molested. And his dad was a kind of person that could always find a reason to beat him up or just a beat on him because that's just how he was. Like he really didn't even need a reason to beat up the kids. It does get to one point where John tells his dad that he doesn't want to hang out with the family friend anymore, but he doesn't tell him like what's going on exactly, but he just like tells him, I don't want to be alone with him anymore.
Starting point is 02:16:02 And then that's it. He doesn't hang out with him. So that's good, I guess, but, you know, I don't know. You get it. So even though John's upbringing was super rough, he decided to channel his need for acceptance by becoming involved within the community. And at the age of 18, John became an assistant precinct captain
Starting point is 02:16:23 for a Democratic Party candidate. That was a mouthful for me. And then later on, he would become a precinct captain. For those of you who don't know what the captain does, because I didn't, you know. They're essentially elected, they are an elected official who act as a direct link between the voters and the political party during local elections.
Starting point is 02:16:43 So basically John was responsible for helping the voter registration and also getting absentee ballots, distributing campaign and party information, and then just overall being an active member of outreach. Basically, someone that the community trusted. His dad was not impressed with John's desire to help the community and would refer to him as a pansy. During John's senior year of high school, he ended up dropping out and decided to move to Las Vegas,
Starting point is 02:17:12 which, this is a side note, why do people drop out senior year? Like, you only have one more year to go and then you're done, and then you're done. You are done. But then when people drop out, I don't, why? Just finish. And then you're done.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Anytime you need life advice, you're welcome. Anyway, so he drops out of school and he goes to Las Vegas. When he gets to Las Vegas, he ends up working for a funeral parlor. Now, this is like already in itself very strange because he gets hired at this funeral parlor and they find out that like john doesn't have anywhere to stay um he like moved out there and
Starting point is 02:17:48 he's not settled right so the owner of this parlor was like you can live here in the funeral parlor and they set up a cop for him behind the embalming room which is like okay i don't know that that okay it's a choice creepy place to live full time but john i think he was happy just to have a place who knows, but John just seemed to like it because when he would sleep there in the cot, he'd be in the room, the place alone, right? So at night he would climb into one of the coffins or some of the coffins and cuddle up with the body of someone that was in the coffin. So there was one time that it was a teenage boy who had passed and was like in the coffin.
Starting point is 02:18:34 So he gets up and he gets in there with him and cuddles. Yeah, so that happened. John was quote, unquote, pretty normal. He was an active member in the community. He was outgoing. People seemed to really like him. Like, you would never know that something was off, you know? But I think at this point it was the first sign that something was different with him.
Starting point is 02:19:01 Yeah. And even John in later interviews said, like, it was at this moment that he kind of, it like a light bulb went out off on his head and he was like okay what i'm doing is is wrong like i'm in here petting a dead body and he kind of went into like a state of shock is what he said um it was like a wake-up call in a way um an awakening but not like an awakening to where he's like i'm going to be better it seemed like it was a dark awakening he wakes up he decides you know what this las Vegas thing isn't for me. And he calls up his mom and he's like, mom, can I come back home? You know, well, dad let me come back home. And she's like, yeah, you know, you can come back home.
Starting point is 02:19:44 He forgives you for dropping out of school, moving to Las Vegas. But it's fine. Just come home. After being in Vegas for only three months, John moves back home to Chicago with his parents. So when John moves back home, he then attends business college. And then he ends up graduating in 1963, and then John gets a job working at a shoe company that asked him to relocate to Springfield, Illinois, where he then is working as a salesman. So once again, when John moved, this is when he decided to get active in the community again, but this time in Springfield. So he joined a local nonprofit leadership training organization that focuses on business development, management skills, and also community service.
Starting point is 02:20:31 And it's called the JC organization. And John must have really loved working with them because he busted his a ass and he spent a lot of time with them. After spending so much time with them, he ends up becoming the vice president of the organization in 1965. And he was named the third most outstanding J.C. in the state of Illinois.
Starting point is 02:20:56 He's number three, he's number three, you know. Wow. During this time is when he meets a co-worker named Marilyn Myers and they start dating. And then after dating for a little bit of time, they get engaged. Ooh, so six months after they were engaged, they got married.
Starting point is 02:21:18 But during that time, Johnny Boy was not exactly faithful to Miss Marilyn. He tells Marilyn that one night, or she finds out, somehow she finds out, but one night he gets really drunk and then he gets a blowy from one of the fellow JC members. Babe, babe, I didn't even touch her. She touched me with her mouth. I didn't cheat, she did.
Starting point is 02:21:42 But I mean, she ends up working through it with him and John and Marilyn proceed to still get married. So we're not judging because, you know, we're judging kind of, but not really, but we're. So the two of them get married and John's new father-in-law, he happened to purchase three different KFC restaurants in Waterloo, Iowa. KFC, Kentucky Fried Chicken, you know, hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:09 So he purchases three of those and he goes to John and he's like, hey, like, would you like to be a manager of my three restaurants? I need a manager. And John is like, hell yeah, like this is a very great opportunity, very secure job, great money. So Marilyn and John, they pick up and they move to Waterloo. John would later describe his time in Waterloo as being perfect because it was just a great job, a perfect marriage, according to him. Marilyn gave birth to their son in February of 1966 and then their daughter in March of the following year.
Starting point is 02:22:45 And John was just working his butt off at these KFC restaurants and he was also active at the local J.C. chapter. And again, it wasn't long before he became vice president of the Waterloo J.C.'s. The people at the J.C. meetings, they, like, loved John because he would bring in Kentucky Fried Chicken to all the meetings, and he insisted everybody call him the colonel. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:23:10 I guess he just liked when people liked him. Anyway, so top it all off, when his parents came to visit him in 1966, his father was actually proud of him. And he pulls John aside and, like, apologizes to him for all the physical and emotional and emotional, emotional abuse he inflicted on him when John was younger. And John Sr. even went so far as to telling John, like, I was wrong about you.
Starting point is 02:23:36 And then he shook his hand. And like that to John was a groundbreaking moment. His dad was proud of him. I mean, he finally got his father's approval, something he could never get. And yeah, it just had a very big effect on him. But not everything during these perfect years were indeed perfect. Of course not.
Starting point is 02:24:01 John and the other members of the Waterloo J.C. were heavily involved with drugs, porn, picking up sex workers, and wife swapping. Mm-hmm. It seemed like a bit of a party organization, which that's fine, I guess. But wife swapping, not the show. Like, it's like a swingers party, it seems like.
Starting point is 02:24:26 And that's not all, like John had opened up a quote unquote club in the basement of his house where all the employees, or a lot of the employees from his KFC restaurants would come over, kick it, drink, play pool. And they would do this until like the late of the night. A lot of the employees loved him because he's this cool manager who lets him come over and just party all night and hang out and drink.
Starting point is 02:24:54 And they're like, hey, this is cool. So from the looks of it, this whole like downstairs party club thing, it just, it seemed all fun like a manager who's taking care of his employees. But really it was just a way for John to indulge himself. Because both boys and girls would come over and hang at this little club, but John would spend most of his time hanging out with the younger boys, the teenage boys that were working at the KFCs. And then he would give these teenage teenagers like a bunch of hours. alcohol. And of course, like, not of course, but you know, when you're a teenager and like an adult gives you alcohol and you're hanging out and with friends, like, you're probably going to drink it and you're probably going to be like, well, this is so cool. Then after kind of gaining their trust and giving them alcohol and being the cool manager, then John would make sexual advances once he got the kids sauced up a little bit. If the guy or the teenager or the boy was like, Like, hold on, like, I'm not into that. John would laugh it off, ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 02:26:01 And just say, like, I'm just joking, L-O-L, just testing your morals. You know, just L-O-L-L, that's all. Starting in August of 1967, John starts getting into a bit more trouble. John invited the 15-year-old son of one of his fellow JC members over. He's like, come on over to the house.
Starting point is 02:26:26 We'll hang out. I have a pool table. So John invites Donald over, gives him some alcohol, lets him watch porn, and then casually John's like, you know, you have to have sex with a man before you can start having sex with women. Did you know that? And this 15-year-olds didn't know any better,
Starting point is 02:26:46 so he thinks that that is indeed a thing. I mean, he's trusting this older man, poor thing. But he ends up going along with it. Sadly, Donald was not John's only victim at this time. John had assaulted a number of other teens. He tricked a couple of them into believing he needed them to participate in what he called homosexual experiments for scientific research. And in exchange, he was going to give them a payment of $50.
Starting point is 02:27:18 Which wasn't bad, well, I mean it is bad. It is bad. But like in today's money, that would be equivalent to $400. $400. So that's like a lot of money for the scientific research. And when you're a teenager, you know, it's just scummy, scum-me. Scientific research. He works at KFC. What kind of science are they doing there? So while Donald was not the only one, he was the only one who spoke up. So after this, after this happens, Donald goes to his dad, tells his dad what happened. And for obvious reasons, was livid. Livid.
Starting point is 02:27:57 Livid. So immediately he told the cops what had happened and John was arrested and charged with oral sodomy. Mm-hmm. Now John denied, denied, denied, because it came out like publicly, so he was like, I didn't, he's just denying, right? Because he needs to maintain this good image.
Starting point is 02:28:16 Denied, deny, deny. He was claiming publicly that Donald's father was doing this for like political reasons, and to prove his innocence, John was like, I demand I be given a polygraph test. Like, I'll prove to you guys that I'm not lying. So they take him up on his offer. They're like, okay, let's do the polygraph test.
Starting point is 02:28:37 And John's like, shit, you know? Like, oh, fuck. Okay. So they go along with it. They hook John up to give him the polygraph test, right? And they ask him, like, hey, did you have sex with this boy? And John says, no, I did not. But the lie detector test determined that was a lie.
Starting point is 02:28:56 He failed. And because of this, not because of his actions, John was indicted on the sodomy charges on May 10th, 1968, as he should be. So obviously, John is not very happy. He's not very pleased with Donald going around saying, making these wild accusations that he did something, that he definitely did, but he didn't want him to say it. So John is like, I need to stop Donald from testifying
Starting point is 02:29:25 and then everything will get dropped. So on August 30th, John decides to hire one of his employees to approach Donald and rough him up a little bit in order to convince him not to testify. In other words, scare him or beat him up so he wouldn't testify. Now Donald was approached by these aggressors and luckily he was able to escape. So at first the employee denied, denied, denied, denied, he's like, I ain't doing anything with me.
Starting point is 02:29:56 But then eventually, like, it didn't even take that long before this employee just threw John under the bus. And he's like, well, actually, John hired me to beat him up. So because of this, John was once again arrested and he was given an additional charge for trying to intimidate a witness. Not long after that, John was ordered to submit a psychological evaluation. And doctors end up diagnosing John with antisocial. personality disorder, but they also determined that he is fit to stand trial. They do warn the judge that John most likely wouldn't benefit from therapy or treatment, and he would probably commit assault again.
Starting point is 02:30:34 This is what they tell the judge. He's probably going to do something again, and nothing's going to save him, essentially. And honestly, somebody should have listened. Somebody should have maybe listened to him, but they didn't. Of course they didn't. Why would they do their job? We don't know. During his trial, which was on November 7th, 1968,
Starting point is 02:30:53 John pleaded guilty to the charge of sodomy against Donald but claimed that Donald had actually propositioned him, not the other way around. No one believed his story, and he ended up being convicted on December 3rd, and he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. I wish I could tell you that was the end. The end, you know?
Starting point is 02:31:13 Of course not. So, I guess you could say things are pretty bad for John, and then they go from bad to war, bad to worse because that same day, Maryland petitioned for a divorce with sole custody of their two children. And the judge had granted her the divorce and John never saw her or his two kids again, ever, ever again.
Starting point is 02:31:36 So I think most of us would consider going to prison, getting divorced and losing custody of your kids would probably be rock bottom, right? You'd think, oh, it's over, baby. But not for Johnny Boy, over here, he was making the most of his life in prison. As much as we hate him, everybody said this man had drive, ambition, charm, okay? And because of this little trifecta of a personality or whatever, it really didn't
Starting point is 02:32:04 take John Long before he was given the position of head cook in the prison and he found a way to increase the daily pay for the inmates who worked in the mess hall, he like represented the people. He also joined the JC chapter of inmates and he actually increased their membership by adding or bringing in 600 people in little over a year. Yeah, so this guy, I mean, he just makes moves. He makes moves. And then on top of all of that, he found ways to improve the conditions at the prison. So he, one thing that he did was he got them to install a mini golf course in the in the rec yard right he was good with his words or something it's a shame john was such a shithead like he seemed like he could really make things happen for whatever community
Starting point is 02:32:59 he was living in that's a damn shame you know after serving 18 months of his tenure sentence john was granted parole and he was only given a one-year probation period 18 months All because of his great behavior, model prison inmate. Isn't that just terrifying? I just feel like they probably shouldn't have done that. But they did. Choices were once again made. John swore up and down that he was a new man.
Starting point is 02:33:37 He changed. He was never going back to that old John. Changed man. Great, right? great, we're rooting for you, you're changed, do good things. He moved back to Chicago and he got a job as a cook in a restaurant, but as we all know, tigers can't change their stripes. It didn't take them that long.
Starting point is 02:33:57 It was less than a year. John was like, I'm bored. And he was up to his old tricks. Stupid, stupid, man. So again, under a year later, once again, John was charged with sexually assaulting a teenage boy on at least two more occasions. In both cases, the charges ended up being dropped
Starting point is 02:34:20 and John was free to go. I don't know. It's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Now, this is where it gets confusing because the Iowa Parole Board, they didn't learn about any of this,
Starting point is 02:34:36 his arrests and stuff, until eight months later, after John's parole had already ended. So a month later, John's previous criminal convictions were sealed, allowing him a fresh start once again. You're probably wondering, why? Why, Bailey? Why? I don't get it. I don't freaking know. I don't make these stupid-ass laws. Don't you think they should be held accountable for what happens next because they let his ass go? they had numerous chances to arrest him and hold him. And okay, so great.
Starting point is 02:35:12 John's like, yay, it works out for me every time. That's what I imagine he's saying. He's out of prison and he's like, okay, now I need help moving into a home, right? So he asked his mom for some help buying a house in Cook County, Chicago. And they move in together. So they're, you know, roommates. And he starts a part-time construction business and he's working on construction contracts in the evening. while working as a cook during the day
Starting point is 02:35:38 and eventually his construction business expands into interior design and remodeling. I know, because of this, it allows him to quit being a cook and run his business full time. And let me tell you, his business was driving. He was quite the interior designer. Kind of surprised that Ed Gein was an interior designer.
Starting point is 02:36:00 Okay, so just like in Iowa and just like in prison, John becomes once again super active in his local community. He assists his new neighbors by loaning them tools for any of like their home DIY projects. That's my DIY move. He also even offers to plow the snow for his neighbors for free. They're like, wow John, we love this guy.
Starting point is 02:36:25 And then during the summer, it was said that John held like the most epic backyard barbecues, okay? Sometimes the guest list to his party were as long as like 400 people. So it wasn't even a backyard barbecue, it was like a block party. And it was said that John just knew how to throw a really good party.
Starting point is 02:36:44 At this point, John was also introduced to another club that really piqued his interest. It's called the Jolly Joker Clown Club. And they would volunteer at parades, fundraising events, children's hospitals, and people would dress up as clowns and go and, make people happy by being a clown, you know? So John gets into this
Starting point is 02:37:07 and he creates two different clown characters for his events that he attends. One of the clown characters was named Pogo the clown and the other was Patches the clown. Now John would say that Pogo the clown, he was more fun. He was more fun, he was like, yay, and then Patches was a little bit more serious.
Starting point is 02:37:26 He was like a serious clown. It just depended on his mood, who he wanted to be that day. Years later, during a conversation, with detectives when John was under surveillance. He actually talked about his volunteer work as a clown, and then like casually says, clowns can get away with murder.
Starting point is 02:37:43 I mean, if that's not foreshadowing, I don't know what is. I just feel like most people are scared of clowns. But maybe not at this time, people weren't scared yet. I don't know. Clowns are so scary. So John's life is really looking up, right? He's got this fresh start. He's got this house with his mom.
Starting point is 02:38:02 He's partying, he's back in the organizations, he's volunteering, and he also got a fresh start on his love life as well. He ended up reconnecting with an ex-girl from his high school and her name was Carol. And at this point, she already had two daughters, but John was like, you know, why don't you move in with me and you could bring your two daughters?
Starting point is 02:38:22 Great, so she did. So she and her two daughters move in with John and then they get engaged pretty quickly and then they get married on July 1, 1977. So the marriage just wouldn't last that long, okay? So about three years after they got married, John just out of the blue tells Carol one day, I just want to let you know that I'm bisexual.
Starting point is 02:38:45 Not really sure how she reacted to that, but she stayed, maybe she's supportive. But on Mother's Day of that year, John gave her a pretty shitty gift, to say the least. So the two of them engage in sexual relations. And then after having sex with Carol, John tells Carol like, oh, by the way, this is the last time we're having sex, ever.
Starting point is 02:39:12 And Carol's like, um, what? Like, what does that mean? What do you mean, huh? Like, I've got follow-up questions. And he really didn't explain at all as to why this is the case. She was confused, but she also thought maybe it's just a phase, right? Right? Maybe he doesn't mean it. What does he even mean? Okay, I guess. I don't know. But after that moment, that's when Carol notices, like, just the relationship started really going downhill.
Starting point is 02:39:41 John was working really late nights. He wouldn't come home until, like, crazy hours in the morning. And then one day while he was gone, Carol was like, let me snoop around John's stuff and, like, see if there's anything going on, you know? So she starts snooping around in his little man cave area and she comes across a bunch of gay porn and she also finds a few different men's wallets in the house. She didn't really know what to make of that, but it's like, weird. When John did come home, it was super odd
Starting point is 02:40:18 because he wouldn't even really acknowledge Carol, the relationship was shit and he would just head straight to the garage with a bunch of like teen boys that he worked with at KFC, you know? And he always had like a posse of younger boys with him hanging by his side, and they would hang in his little man cave until late into the night. Now, eventually, Carol asked John, like,
Starting point is 02:40:43 what is this all about? Like, what is going on? What is going on? What is happening? What is this? And I guess this really made John upset. And he just tells Carol, like, you better shut the F up.
Starting point is 02:40:56 it's really none of your business what I'm doing. Which is like, yeah, it kind of is because that's your wifie. Okay, so him and his wife are just kind of bickering, not getting along, obviously. And this went on for about five months. And then finally, like the last straw for the relationship was a pretty intense fight they had over balancing the checkbook. I'm not sure. I mean, at least she got out. Okay.
Starting point is 02:41:19 So Carol asked for a divorce, John agrees, right? And Carol and her daughters, they end up staying in the house. for like another four months, just until the divorce is finalized. So John's construction business, they employed a lot of high school students. A lot of young men is what I'm getting at. And the reason was because, for one,
Starting point is 02:41:42 John liked it obviously, but for the construction crew, they wanted someone who was fit and could handle harder labor. That's why they hired the younger boys. But during this time, John was using his own work rolodex as means to like hook up with men.
Starting point is 02:42:00 He would even like test the waters to see if certain employees were down for sex or at least sexual favors in exchange for extra money. Sometimes he would offer young men to borrow his car. And sometimes he would be like, hey, if you have sex with me, I'll give you a promotion. And if they were not willing participants, right off the bat, John was known for
Starting point is 02:42:25 telling them that he had a gun and he would threaten to kill them if they didn't comply. So there were a couple of other employees that gave John a more challenging time when it came to like trying to have a good time. But the biggest one was in 1976 when John had an incident with an 18 year old named David. So John met David while David was hitchhiking. So he picks David up and they were driving to wherever it was they were going. and the two of them get to talking, right? And John learns that David, he has nowhere to go, he has no job, and John's like, great,
Starting point is 02:43:03 you know, I have spare rooms at my house, and I own a construction company. So John offers David a job at his construction company, and he also offers David to move in with him as well. I mean, he's got the space now because Carol and the girls, they all moved out. He's like, the house is kind of quiet, there's plenty of space,
Starting point is 02:43:25 you know, I'm just being nice. David's like, cool, thanks. I mean, he takes him up on this. Unfortunately, John can't seem to keep it in his pants for too long because that very night, he learns that it's David's birthday and he's turning 19 years old. So John learns it's his birthday and he's like,
Starting point is 02:43:43 hey, we should celebrate, you're 19. We're alone in my house, you know? So they're drinking, they're celebrating, and then John's like, everybody loves a birthday class, Oh God. So John decides to dress up in his pogo clown outfit. He's like, I just want to make it more like a birthday celebration. So he does that and he's like everyone knows a clown at a party, right? So I guess it was all fun in games, whatever. And then John dressed as the clown. He somehow cons David into putting on a pair of handcuffs. He's like, let me show you this trick and he gets David to put his hands in front of him and then handcuffs. him. And then I guess at that very instant, that's when like the mood changes. John grabs the chain of the handcuffs and like swings David around and just straight up tells
Starting point is 02:44:35 them, I am going to rape you. And David was like, fuck, no you are not. So he fights back. He ends up kicking John in the face and manages to get himself free. From what I've read, John was a pretty convincing guy. He was a good talker, wasn't he? I don't know, but he ends up somehow convincing David that like, oh, this was just a joke gone wrong. No, I was just, I was just joking. And I don't know, he's just able to talk his way out of it, convinces David that it's all okay. And he's like, you don't have to move out. You could stay here. It's like, it won't happen again. So David continues to stay with John. So whatever he said, it just, yeah, You get it. It worked, I guess.
Starting point is 02:45:25 It wasn't long, though, until John tried to rape David again. This time he did it in a way more threatening way. Maybe it was the lack of clown costume or the fact that he said, quote, Dave, you really don't know who I am. Maybe it would be good if you give me what I want. It was a quote, end quote. Once again, David is somehow able to hold John off. John gets extremely frustrated and eventually just gives up.
Starting point is 02:45:55 As he's leaving, John tells David, like, you are not any fun. And then after this incident, David finally decides to move out. He would still continue to do work for John here and there over the next two years, but he really just tried to stay away. So around this time, John actually decides to up his game and go further than just assaulting these boys. He's ready to take it to the next level. There were a number of young men and boys
Starting point is 02:46:24 who were wrapped up in a night of drinking with John at his house and maybe even doing some drugs when John would bust out his handcuffs and tell them like, hey, do you guys want to see a magic trick with my handcuffs? He would handcuff himself to like show everyone got their magic handcuffs, but he would he would handcuff himself behind his back
Starting point is 02:46:48 back and then magically escape. But really, John just had the key hidden in his hand and he was able to get out of the handcuffs. So there was no magic, okay? So once he showed them this trick, he's like, do you guys wanna learn how to do this trick? I could teach you and one of the kids would be like,
Starting point is 02:47:06 yeah, like show me, I wanna learn how to escape from handcuffs. So John puts the handcuffs on a kid who's there and he's like, I'm gonna show you how to get out of this, right? Once the handcuffs are on, John would then reveal his secret to escaping this magic trick
Starting point is 02:47:25 was by having a key. That's the trick. While his victims were handcuffed, John would often take advantage of these men and boys by raping them or often just straight up torturing them. Like sick, torture, abuse, awful. Ugh, just all bad. It was real bad.
Starting point is 02:47:44 So finally, John would show his victims the finale, another trick he had. This one was called the rope trick. And the rope trick was essentially John tying a rope around their neck and then strangling them to death. It was no trick, he was murdering them, yeah. And as John was performing this trick
Starting point is 02:48:05 on different victims, he seemed to get like progressively more and more aggressive. Some of them he would just strangle with the rope, which is still awful, not trying to say it's not. Some of the victims he would shove underwear deep into the victim's throat, which would lead to them dying from asphyxiation before the rope trick came to play.
Starting point is 02:48:27 So yeah, it was a lot, it was a lot. So it went from John just sexually abusing and raping boys to now full-blown murder. He was, he said, yep, he was loving it or something. So when John's victims were finally dead, John would often hide the body under his bed for like a full day. And then he was like, okay, I should probably move them somewhere.
Starting point is 02:48:52 So then he decided it'd be best to move them under the crawl space under his house, crawl space. Some of the bodies he treated with quicklime every once in a while to kind of move the decomposition process along just a little faster. And then on other victims, he would try to embalm them. It's unclear like who got what treatment and why, I think he was just kind of playing around.
Starting point is 02:49:18 I don't know, I don't know. This dude was just hell sick. Honestly, John didn't really seem that picky about who his victims were, as long as they were young and they were boys, young men, young gentlemen. Sometimes he knew them, sometimes they were like just random strangers, he would see at a bus stop
Starting point is 02:49:38 or maybe hitchhiking or just walking along the street. There were also a number of ways John trapped his victim, some of them, it seemed like most of them, he promised them a job working for his construction company. I mean, because he had this company, so it was kind of like, hey, I could give you a job. You get it, yeah. So he was like, I could give you a job,
Starting point is 02:49:56 of course, a lot of them were I say, yeah. And then other times it was like, hey, you should come back to my place, I have alcohol, drugs, I could give you sex in exchange for money, or you can give me sex in exchange for money. And that was just like ways he got the victims to go back to his house.
Starting point is 02:50:15 Now the scariest thing of all was there was one point where John was able to get his hands on a police badge, whether it was fake or not, he was just able to get his hands on a police badge and like a little siren light that he would put on his car and he would trick victims into believing
Starting point is 02:50:32 that he was a police officer that is super fucked out. That's scary. Now, mind you, all of this could have been prevented. because he was in prison and he was sentenced to 10 years and he should have been there for 10 years, but instead he was released.
Starting point is 02:50:50 And even after that, he's got just way too many chances. Stupid, stupid man. John had been pulling these stunts since 1972 and he was getting away with it for a pretty damn long time. So you know how he was married to the second wife, wife number two? Now there was a lot of debate, there's a lot of question, like how much did she know? Did she know anything at all?
Starting point is 02:51:13 How could she not know? And it was believed that in certain cases that she may actually have known what was going on or that John had forced her into staying silent about his crimes. And many believed that she may have been a forced accomplice. But there's great debate on that one. So also, many people have wondered throughout the years,
Starting point is 02:51:39 like, why didn't the local police notice anything going on? I mean, there was like a bunch of people going missing. Like how come no one saw nothing? Nobody questioned anything. No one reported these people missing. Like it's just bizarre. Now cops said that they saw plenty of young men going in and out of John's house over the years. But none of these guys, at least the ones that were able to leave,
Starting point is 02:52:04 came out and like said anything against John. I'm assuming here that they were probably either threatened, maybe embarrassed, scared, or maybe they didn't get, I doubt they didn't get something from John, but you know, there's many reasons as to why people don't speak out, but that may be why nothing was said, but it's just bizarre that like all these people are going missing and it's just weird, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:52:33 One source had said that the police believed these victims were just runaways, and then another said that the police didn't wanna do anything, because it seemed to be like homosexual stuff and they didn't wanna touch it. Once again, the police not doing their goddamn job. John's first known murder victim was a 16 year old kid named Timothy.
Starting point is 02:52:57 And on January 2nd, 1972, John was at a family party. And I guess he's hanging out and he tells the people, his family that he's gonna leave, he's gonna go for a drive because they put up some local ice sculpture, and they're on display, and it only happens every once in a while. So he's like, I'm going to go see the ice sculptures. So he gets in his car, he drives away.
Starting point is 02:53:21 And while he's driving around, that's when he sees young Timothy at the Chicago bus terminal. And it was late at night. So he was like, hey, kid, like, it's super late. I have a home you could stay at. Like, I'll give you a place to sleep tonight. Bring you back in the morning to catch the next bus. You shouldn't be out here.
Starting point is 02:53:39 It's dangerous. Timothy's like, you know, that sounds great. Sure. So he gets in the car with John and they drive around. John, I guess drives him around like the city. Maybe he takes him to the ice sculptures. I don't know. But then eventually they head back to his place. Now the details on this story are really unclear. But here's what John said, who I'm sure is not a very reliable source. I'm sure we can all agree on that. So the boy sleeps over. John says he wakes up the next morning from bed. This is him waking up. And he sees Timothy, the boy, he's standing in John's bedroom doorway and he's holding a knife from his kitchen. Like there's a knife in his hand. Now John says he just reacts, okay, he reacts, he jumps up. Timothy was like, I guess he didn't say anything, but he was looking like he was trying to surrender and he accidentally cut John's arm.
Starting point is 02:54:38 and I guess that really set John off. So he grabs, again, Timothy hasn't said anything, and this is according to John. So John grabs Timothy's wrist and he twists it so the kid would drop the knife and then he slams the kid's head into the wall and then he kicks him like into the closet. So then this young boy, Timothy, he fights back.
Starting point is 02:55:03 He kicks John square in the stomach and the two of them are like wrestling on the floor and eventually John is able to get on top of him and then just starts stabbing him in the chest. Bizarre. Weird, tragic. I don't know. So John just leaves Timothy to die on the floor and he said he gets up, he goes to the kitchen to put the knife back and that's when he notices
Starting point is 02:55:28 like there was an open carton of eggs and some bacon on the counter and the kitchen table was set And John's like, oh, I think Timothy was like just coming to ask how I like my eggs cooked. Whoopsie. Yeah, I don't know. I'm laughing because of just like I don't, I don't. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 02:55:55 This, okay. So this whole thing, John would say in later interviews, that this whole situation, this experience, it gave him a mind-numbing orgasm, and he just was very sexually satisfied from what just happened. Yeah. And that's the moment John said he realized that death was the ultimate thrill for him. So he's like, you know what, I really worked up in appetite. He eats the meal that poor Timothy was making for them. And then once he's all done, he gets Timothy
Starting point is 02:56:37 and puts him in the crawl space under his house. And then later on, he goes back and covers the area with like an additional layer of concrete. So after killing Timothy, I guess this like satisfied John for quite some time because he waited about two years before he killed again. And as time went on, John started to be less cautious
Starting point is 02:57:00 and started to get on the police's radar a bit. You see, in January, in 1976, Chicago police suspected John was responsible for the disappearance of a nine-year-old boy. The problem that they found themselves in was the fact that John lived near the O'Hare Airport, which technically was outside of their jurisdiction. Which means like they're not allowed
Starting point is 02:57:25 to build a case against him. It would have to be the other police department. So you're probably wondering, why didn't they just call up the other police department, be like, hey, there's this real, there's a suspicious guy over here. Let me tell you about him. He's doing some shit. You need to get on it.
Starting point is 02:57:38 There were a couple of victims who were able to get away. Or rather, for some reason, John decided to let them live. In March of 1977, a 27-year-old, his name was Jeff. He was lured into John's car, where then John chloroformed him and then brutally raped and beat him. Unfortunately, cops didn't take his case very seriously. So Jeff made it his life's mission to track down who this person was who attacked him because he had like no memory of it.
Starting point is 02:58:12 So he's going around searching the city for like a month and he recognizes this victim, Jeff. He recognizes John's car. He's like, that's fucking him. He writes on the license plate and then he goes to police and gives them the number. Like this guy chloroformed me, he fucking rape me, beat me, beat me, like you need to go get him.
Starting point is 02:58:36 So Jeff ends up filing a civil lawsuit against John, and Jeff claimed that John offered him weed, but instead he used chloroform to knock him out. And when he woke up, he was handcuffed in John's house, and then John sexually attacked him before he let Jeff go. Once again, the man who's been getting far too many chances, John was charged with battery, yeah, which is a misdemeanor, which means he had to pay $3,000 and that was it. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:59:15 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Sick. Sick. And you know what's worse? They had him.
Starting point is 02:59:27 John, John. They had him in court and stuff. They could have like, they, why didn't they search his house or something? I don't know. Anyways, so Jeff would actually go on later in life. He would write a book about his experience. It's called 29 below. Poor guy.
Starting point is 02:59:42 I hope he's okay. Then there was another victim who was a 19-year-old that John had kidnapped at gunpoint and forced this young man to do sexual stuff, raped him. And when he was taken into custody, John admitted that he engaged with some sexual behavior with this guy. And he admitted to the police that the sexual acts were pretty brutal, they were intense, but he said that the participant was, it was consensual. He consented to everything. That's what John told police. In fact, this kid was actually his consensual sex slave, according to John. Now the police, for some sick reason, believed John and the
Starting point is 03:00:28 assistant state state's attorney, they decided not to prosecute. I know. Shouldn't they that all of them just be fired? Just that whole state of people in charge fired. Well, they're probably not there anymore, but what a crock of shit. Outside of John being absolutely psycho, he was considered, I mean, people looked at him like a pretty normal guy. Like he was very active in the community. Still, he was even appointed the director position for Chicago's annual Polish Constitution Day parade. Yes. So with this position that he got, it gave him the opportunity to take a photo with the first lady, Rosalind Carter. So he gets a picture with the president's wife on May 6, 1978. Now, the funny thing is,
Starting point is 03:01:24 Now this is not funny, but the funny thing is, in order to get a picture with Ms. Carter, the Secret Service, they had to do a background check on anybody who like takes a picture with her, meets her to make sure, you know, they're not killers, whatever. They need to give them special clearance, which if you're like me, you're thinking, oh right, so the Secret Service, beep, boop,
Starting point is 03:01:45 they're gonna pull up John's background and be like, LOL, JK, no picture for you, you know? But, I mean, because that makes sense. Well, if the world made sense, that probably would have happened. But the Secret Service did a background check on John, and they ended up clearing him. He was a okay, cleared background.
Starting point is 03:02:06 So he was approved. Okay, great, they're like, great, you get to meet the first lady snag a photo. Now, it's like, the thing is, that's just a bad look for the freaking president too. I mean, because when all shit hits the fan and all the information comes out, it's like, here she is photographed
Starting point is 03:02:22 with the president's, wife. Does anyone do their jobs around here or are we all just like too busy doing not that? So by 1978, John's crawl space under his house where he was hiding bodies was absolutely maxed out. He couldn't fit any more bodies under the house. So he was like, you know, I could put bodies up in the attic, you know? That's an option. But he realized that it's a terrible option because the bodies would probably leak when they decomposed and then it would come through the ceilings and just be a big old mess.
Starting point is 03:02:57 So instead, John decided it would be best if maybe he stopped using his house as a graveyard. So instead he started to throw them into the local river, Des Plains River, and he would end up doing this five different times. On December 11th, 1978 at 9 p.m., there was a 15-year-old high school student named Robert who was finishing up his shift at the local pharmacy. So he's working there at the local pharmacy.
Starting point is 03:03:24 You get it. His mom comes to pick him up, right? She comes to pick up Robert. She's going to take him home. And they're excited because it's actually his mom's birthday. It's her 46th birthday. And they have plans to just celebrate with the whole family, have some cake, whatever.
Starting point is 03:03:39 So she's waiting for him. And her son, Robert, runs out of the pharmacy and runs the car and is like, hey, mom, can you wait a few minutes? There's this guy who offered me a construction job that pays $5 an hour and it would be awesome to make that kind of money because it was like twice what he was making at his current job. So his mom is like, sure, like, go ahead, honey, I'll wait right here. And she's just waiting outside for Robert to come back.
Starting point is 03:04:07 Well, some time passes by and Robert doesn't come back. So she's like, dude, where is he, you know? So she's getting a little nervous. She looks around for him. She's not seeing him. So his mom drives home and she tells her husband, okay, Robert was there one minute and now he's just missing. So the whole family, it's Robert's mom and dad, his two siblings and their two dogs. They all pile into the family car, head back to the local pharmacy and they look for Robert.
Starting point is 03:04:40 Now, they're searching for quite some time and they can't find any clues, nothing. He just poof vanished. Finally, it got late into the night. It was like 11.30 at night. Robert's mom decides to go to the police and file a missing person's report. Poor thing. It was her birthday.
Starting point is 03:04:58 Now this case, it would hit close to home for a new police lieutenant that was working there that night because his son was attending the same high school as Robert and he was, he just resonated with this woman and her missing son. He's afraid that his own son
Starting point is 03:05:16 so it might be at risk of a similar fate. So the lieutenant insists on taking this case on himself. He's determined to find answers. Okay, he's not just gonna write it down as missing. He's gonna do something about it. And at this point, he was only the chief of detectives for about six months. So many were saying like, oh, he probably had something to prove,
Starting point is 03:05:39 which is so annoying. Maybe he was doing his damn job. You wish every police officer would react like this guy? So, okay, this lieutenant asked, you know, when was the last time you saw him, right? And he discovers that John Wayne Gacy, he was one of the contractors who recently helped remodel the pharmacy
Starting point is 03:05:59 that Robert was working at. So he thought to himself, like maybe John was the contractor, Robert was talking to about that potential job. That kind of makes sense, right? So the lieutenant calls up John and leaves a message asking like, hey, can you come into the state? for questioning. Just want to talk. Then at 11 p.m. on December 12th, John calls up the lieutenant
Starting point is 03:06:22 and asks like, hey, do you still want to talk to me? And the lieutenant's like, yeah, can you get here today? Or how long do you think you'll take you to get here? Like, I'll be here. And John's like, I'll be there in a half an hour. So the lieutenant's like, great, can't wait. Well, time goes by and then it's like 1 a.m. and John is still a no show. So he's like great. But you know what? John was actually super busy at that time because when John had called up the lieutenant, he actually was in the middle of something. He was in the middle of taking Robert's body and trying to get rid of it. So he's on the phone with the lieutenant, click, right? So he ends up loading Robert's body into the trunk of his car and then he drives south so he can dump the body in the
Starting point is 03:07:10 river. So John drops the body off and he's now driving to go talk to the lieutenant. And I guess he must have hit like a patch of ice or something because his truck spun out and it was like 2 a.m. and John's car was getting towed out of a snowbank. So then once everything is all settled, 3 a.m. covered in mud. John walks into the police station. He's like, hey, I'm here to meet with the lieutenant. And whoever I was at the main desk is like, it's three in the morning. Why don't you come back later? And, you know, he didn't have to come back, right? He could have just ran for it. But you know what? John being that outstanding citizen he is, he comes back the next day. So John comes back and gives his brief statement to the lieutenant. And honestly,
Starting point is 03:08:03 the lieutenants get weird vibes from John, and he's thinking John is holding Robert hostage in his house, so he asked for the keys to John's house. Now, John was a little hesitant to give over his keys for obvious reasons, but he eventually hands over his keys. He's like, yeah, you could search my house, and they do. So the cops, they hold John in custody while they search his home. So the The cops end up going to John's home and they do search his house and they don't really find much. And by not finding much, I mean, they aren't really finding any evidence
Starting point is 03:08:40 as to like what may have happened to Robert. But what they do find is plenty of gay porn, some needles, a starter pistol, some rope, and an 18 inch dildo, oh, and the handcuffs. You know, hmm, okay. None of this is illegal to own, But the lieutenant's kind of frustrated because he just has this feeling that John,
Starting point is 03:09:03 it's like John knows something, but he fears that this is a dead end. So they keep looking around, keep looking, and then they come across a receipt. And on the receipt, they find a charge for film that was being developed at the pharmacy where Robert worked. This seems to be enough evidence to convince the cops to seize John's car,
Starting point is 03:09:25 van, and pickup truck to be searched later, hoping that one of the vehicles will at least have some kind of clue in it. So they have the cars searched and they find some fibers that could possibly be hair, but it's not super conclusive. They also have one of those trained dogs come and sniff around the cars to see if, like, they could smell Robert or death. You know how some of the dogs could smell death? Dogs are magical.
Starting point is 03:09:54 So they have the dog come and the dog's searching one of the cars and the dog lays down on the passenger seat of the car, and the dog handler is like, oh, that's his reaction to death. That's his death reaction. And it was believed that Robert's body had probably been in there at some point. But they have all this information,
Starting point is 03:10:15 but it doesn't mean anything. Like there's no hard evidence that turns up to prove that Robert is linked to John. Police take some stuff from John's house, but nothing the police confiscated could connect John to Robert's disappearance. So at 11 p.m. that night, John was released from prison because they had nothing on him, you know?
Starting point is 03:10:37 One day later on December 15th, one of the items police seized during the search of his home, it comes back with a positive ID. But it's not a positive ID to Robert. It's actually, it belongs to a high school kid. It was his class ring, and this kid had been missing for two years. Why does John have it?
Starting point is 03:10:59 And not only that, when one of John's employees were questioned, one of them tells police that some former employees just had disappeared. Like they don't know what happened, they were here one day and then gone the next. Pretty suspicious, I'm sure we can all agree. John's got the class freeing of a kid who disappeared a couple years ago and some of his employees have gone missing. Great, just what we need. Now that same day, John calls up the police and invites
Starting point is 03:11:28 writes them over for breakfast. Not sure why, but it was rumored that one of them was totally John's type and he had a bit of a crush on him. The cops noticed that John, he's not looking too good. He's looking a little tired, anxious. Hmm, maybe something's wearing on him a little bit, huh? But that's not all the police notice.
Starting point is 03:11:52 When they're over at John's house, one of them said instantly when they walked in, they could smell death, which sounds gross, you know? But they say death has a certain smell and the police officer is like, I smell it, like what is that smell? And he brings it up to John and John's like,
Starting point is 03:12:09 oh yeah, I have mold, it's mold. Oh, and I got some rodents over there. So it's just stinky, no big deal. So I guess the smell of John's house really wasn't enough for police to search his home again, right? Like you think it would be, but it's not. Instead, John got a lawyer. He lawyered up and John's lawyer actually filed
Starting point is 03:12:33 a $750,000 lawsuit against the city and the police department. His lawyer was saying that the police were harassing John and doing illegal searches and they were also just taking stuff that they weren't allowed to, plus they were destroying poor John's reputation in the whole process.
Starting point is 03:12:53 So they were not allowed to search his home again. What a freaking mess. Right? But luckily, luckily, finally, police, they really didn't have to wait that much longer because on December 21st, 1978, John was followed to a gas station, okay? The cops were following him, and they saw him pass off like a package
Starting point is 03:13:17 to one of the clerk workers at the gas station. The package was seized, it had a bunch of weed in there, and this was great because it's, like what they needed to finally arrest John for something, right? They just wanted to hold him so they could further search his house. So they're like, yippy, skippy, we got him. Yes, he gets arrested. Meanwhile, the day before John is arrested for the weed situation, he actually goes
Starting point is 03:13:46 to visit his lawyer. And his lawyer wants to discuss that civil lawsuit they're filing, the $750,000. So he's like, come on over, we're going to talk about it, whatever. So when John gets there, instead of talking about the civil lawsuit, John sees like the local newspaper on his lawyer's desk and he reads like the head story. It's about that kid who went missing and his name's Robert. And John, I guess, looks at it and the first thing he says is he's dead, he's in a river. And just like that, it was over, baby.
Starting point is 03:14:18 I guess John sat there for hours confessing everything to his lawyer saying that he had killed 32 men, after having sexual relations with them. 32 men. That's a lot. 32? So while he's confessing, it was said to be strange and unusual because John was talking in the third person.
Starting point is 03:14:41 He also was making it sound like he had an accomplice. I mean, his lawyer noticed that John literally had like no emotions towards any of the victims, and it was like just, he just was going into great detail and just nothing. Just nothing, you know, it was hard to keep up. But during his confession, John goes into great detail about burying bodies under his house
Starting point is 03:15:03 and also that he was using the river to dump bodies there. It was said that John, while he was confessing, he like fell asleep in the middle of his confession. I guess he was bored. But his lawyer said that he was in absolute shock and while John was taking his little nap, he's trying to come up with a plan
Starting point is 03:15:20 because that's his job, right? So John's taking a nap. The lawyer's like, okay, we're going to get him a psychiatric evaluation and maybe kind of lean into that, right? His lawyer wakes John up from his nap. He's like, hey, we're going to do a psychiatric evaluation. But instead, John, he brushes him off. He says he doesn't, he's got things to do.
Starting point is 03:15:40 He's like, no, I got things to do. And then that's when he gets up to leave and he goes to the gas station to deliver the weed where then he gets arrested. So John's arrested once again. And during this time, the police get another warrant to search his home. They also interviewed one of John's employees, and they learned that a while back, John had asked his employee to dig a trench in his crawl space.
Starting point is 03:16:03 They asked another employee who said that he helped dig some trenches and spread lime in them, and then he told police that the trenches were pretty small, kind of like the size of a shallow grave. Now there are many speculations, many rumors, that these two employees were involved with the murders. They were accomplices, you know, to John. That's a big debate.
Starting point is 03:16:27 They say no. They stood by the fact that they had no idea what the trenches were for or what John was up to. Many believe that's untrue, but either way, police got the information they needed from him or them, I should say, and knew like, okay, they must be in these crawl spaces, right? That's where Robert's gonna be at.
Starting point is 03:16:47 They didn't even know what they were getting themselves into. They thought they were just gonna find Robert. So while police and stuff are searching John's house, they have John being questioned back at the station, right? And they're trying to get a confession out of him. And cops are like, we're gonna tear up the floors of your house. We'll have to do whatever it takes to find Robert's body. And John's like, like I'm telling you, like Robert isn't there,
Starting point is 03:17:14 but you might find other people buried in the floor. And then he goes on to say that there's another guy buried in the floor that I was forced to kill in the floor self-defense and the police are like oh god what John ends up going back to the house with police and he uses a spray can to kind of mark on the ground where bodies are buried at. So he marks a couple of spaces for the police but while searching the crawl space under John's house they come across like a trap door and when they open up this little trap door they find numerous body parts. I'm talking lots of different body parts, just all skedaddled about.
Starting point is 03:18:00 So they've got three in the crawl space and they've got another person under the garage floor. Where are the rest? They don't even know about the rest yet. The next day, December 22nd, John begins talking to police and then he admits to bearing 27 bodies around his property. He also confesses to throwing bodies into the river and four bodies are eventually found, but Robert's body is never recovered. To help with the search of his house and hoping that they would spare his carpets from destruction, John, he ends up drawing a diagram showing the police, like where all the bodies are buried in the crawl space as well as a few other places around his property that they were all buried. His place must have reeked, reeked, reeked, reeked, reeked, reeked, reeked. After all this,
Starting point is 03:18:54 John is moved to the hospital because they think like there might be more going on with him. And John tried really hard to convince him that he had multiple personality disorder. He claimed that he had four personalities and they had three psychiatric experts, not work on him, diagnose him, as a paranoid schizophrenic with multiple personalities. But the prosecution, they believe that he was saying and in full control of his actions that, you know, he be tried as himself. So after searching John's house even more,
Starting point is 03:19:31 they don't come across just 27 bodies like John had it originally confessed. They end up finding 29 bodies in total and 26 of them were found in the crawl space alone. The hell? So when they get into the cross space, that's when they just realized like it's a freaking hot ass mess. The bodies are dismembered and like just heavily dismembered like in a really bad shape.
Starting point is 03:19:56 And investigators said that they went to the local McDonald's. I'm not kidding, they went to the local McDonald's and they asked to borrow a fry basket to help them like sift the soil in hopes to kind of get everybody together. So by the time they had finished, John was now being charged with 33 counts of murder. Dude, that's insane. And they were all like varied in his house. Oh, what a weirdo. So, okay, arrested. Trial is coming up. Great. February 6th, 1980. John was being charged with 33 counts of murder and he had technically been convicted of more murders than anyone in American history. So that's cool, I guess. I guess he's happy about that one.
Starting point is 03:20:42 Now, because John had confessed, it was mainly, like, the whole purpose of the trial was more about deciding if he was insane or not, versus him being guilty or innocent. I know that would determine his sentencing. But after undergoing over 300 hours of different psychological tests, John was deemed fit to stand trial despite trying to plead not guilty by reason of insanity. The trial itself, it lasted about five weeks. People were very interested. and it took the jury less than like two hours to find him guilty of 33 murders. John was sentenced to serve 12 death sentences and 21 natural life sentences. The parents and the relatives of John's victims
Starting point is 03:21:25 actually start to applaud when they learn that John is going to be executed. I mean, I don't blame him. So John was sentenced to death on March 13th, 1980. Oh my God, isn't it his birthday the 14th or something? Isn't that weird? I feel like that happens a lot in these stories.
Starting point is 03:21:43 It's like right around their birthday. What's that about? But of course, like death row doesn't happen overnight, you know? So he sat on death row for 14 years. John tried to appeal his sentence, and during his death row sitting time, he gave a bunch of interviews, giving out just stupid information,
Starting point is 03:22:00 trying to prove that he was actually innocent and that he didn't do any of it. He also had a telephone number set up. up where people could pay to hear his 12 minute recorded statement declaring his innocence and saying that he had an alibi for everything and that he was being wrongly convicted. So annoying, he just, whatever, boo. While he sat his ass in jail, he painted, he wrote letters,
Starting point is 03:22:29 he tried to prove to everybody that he was innocent. None of it worked. A lot of fans though, he had a lot of fans. Then his execution day came. And guess what he had for his final meal? I don't know why I'm so excited, but I was like, oh, full circle. He had KFC.
Starting point is 03:22:46 Isn't that a little full circle, mommy? Shortly after midnight on May 11th, 1994, John, who was 52 years old at this time, he was given a three drug lethal injection and at 1258 a.m., John Wayne Gasey was finally dead. Dunzo. Now, there are actually rumors that John's final words were, quote, kiss my ass. Everyone believes that that's what his final words were.
Starting point is 03:23:16 The state attorney who tried the case and who was there said that that wasn't true. But maybe he's just saying that. I don't know. Who knows? But everybody thinks he did say that and they kind of just run with it. Kiss my ass. They're like, yeah, he's fucking rock star. So annoying. After going through all the victims found under and around John's freaking house, investigators, they still had eight bodies that they could not identify. Regardless, it was really important to everyone involved with the case that they were still given proper funerals, even if no one knew who they were.
Starting point is 03:23:47 So they made them different gravestones saying, like, we remembered and the date that the body was buried. It's really sad. Over time, DNA became a thing, and they're able to ID people based off DNA evidence. So two of the victims, actually, they were able to link with their DNA, so they were able to ID two of them.
Starting point is 03:24:11 However, to this day, like six of the eight victims still remain unidentified. So that, my friends, is the very long story of John Wayne Gacy. He was a man with too many chances. Oh, hold on, I have a headband. Look, this is my costume. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:24:30 I'm Medusa, but I'm gonna take it off because his headband is killing me. Ouch, would not recommend. So, John Wayne Gacy. Dude, wild, gross, ugh, 33 victims, he got way too many chances. All of those police, all of those people who let him go throughout the years, I hope they got fired. They probably didn't because come the fuck on Bailey, but they should have, okay?
Starting point is 03:24:58 How, 33 victims and they never, like, let me think, like, where are all these people going? It's just bizarre the whole thing, and then his wife was living under the same root. and it's like, didn't she smell anything? Didn't she smell anything? Or, like, wonder why they were freshly, like, moved dirt and stuff? And she's like, what's that about you gardening? I don't see any flowers. It's just weird.
Starting point is 03:25:22 And, like, I don't want to believe that she was in on it. I don't know. I don't know. But golly G. Willickers. John was fucked up. Okay? Super fucked up, and he's a super scary type because to your face and whatnot,
Starting point is 03:25:35 he seemed like a super charming guy. Everybody loved him. Everyone thought he was normal and he was very involved with charity. Just creepy. Creepy. Anyways, I would love to know what you guys think down below. What do you think of the look? Cute.
Starting point is 03:25:52 I'm all like, ugh. That was gross. That's a lot. 33 and nobody, nobody thought anything? Nobody, his neighbors didn't smell anything. How did he not stink? Anyways, thank you so. Thank you so much for hanging out with me today.
Starting point is 03:26:10 Sorry my costume isn't really a costume. But I like this makeup look. Let me know who you want me to talk about next week. I hope you have a good rest of your day. You make good choices. Please be safe out there. I'll be seeing you guys next week. Bye.
Starting point is 03:26:37 I learned too much about this guy, and the reason, like, he grosses me out the most is because he's one of those killers that, like, just would find someone and be like, that's who I'm going to kill next. And, like, that was it. You know, where a lot of the times when we talk here, it's kind of like people that the killer, like, knows or they're close with, where this guy was like, that person, I'm going to do that person. And, like, that's scary, you know. Okay, so the BTK killer between 1974 and 1991, Dennis Raider brutally murdered 10 people, including two children, mostly by binding, torturing, and killing them, which gave him the name BTK, bind, torture, kill. Yeah, Dennis Raider, he lived quite the, he lived a double life. Like on one hand, he was president of his local Lutheran.
Starting point is 03:27:34 church council. He was like president of that. He was a Cub Scout leader. He had a wife and two kids. Yep. What else, Bailey? Well, he earned multiple degrees and like held a variety of different jobs. One of his jobs was actually installing ADT security systems. Yeah, he was installing security systems at the homes of people who were afraid of this BTK killer on the loose. Literally, the killer is inside the house. I told myself I was going to grow my eyebrows out like I always do, and then I, you know, I was like, mer, and I butchered, butchered my brows.
Starting point is 03:28:18 I don't know how to do them anymore. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm going through a brow crisis. A brown crisis. So this guy, he had a very deep and complex dark side, which involved, you know, pretty, like, vivid fantasies of domination, bondage, torture, murdering women. And these fantasies turned to reality when in 1973, Dennis was let go from his job at, I think it's Cessna.
Starting point is 03:28:48 It's an aviation company. And I guess he had time on his hands and he was like, let's get down to business. I'm giving you a little, like, rundown before he jump into it. I hope that's okay. I normally just get into it, but maybe you like a rundown. Let me know down below. With too much time on his hands, he fell deeper into his fantasies. In the following year, his killings began, which would continue all the way up to 1991.
Starting point is 03:29:11 During his murder spree, he would sometimes leave clues in the form of letters that he would, like, leave in library books. He once even sent a poem to the local paper mocking one of his victims. So, like, over 13 years, in 2004, Dennis hadn't been caught, and the case had run cold. The local news had suggested that the killer must have been dead or was probably in prison. But Dennis didn't like this. You know, he didn't want to go unnoticed or forgotten. So he started communicating with media and police to let them know that like, hey, I'm still here. He wrote letters, sent photos and evidence from crime scenes.
Starting point is 03:29:51 And, you know, he would send, like some would include driver's licenses of his victims. He even left random cereal boxes containing dolls. bound with rope inside the cereal boxes, you know what I'm saying? And then finally, though, his need for attention led cops to track him down, all thanks to a floppy disc and his daughter's pap smear. Oh, yes. So now let's like get into the nitty-gritty of it all, shall we? So Dennis Lynn Raider was born on March 9, 1945 in Pittsburgh, Kansas.
Starting point is 03:30:30 But I guess he grew up in Wichita, Kansas. His middle name is Lynn. He was like, oh, Dennis Lynn. He was the oldest of four boys, and his mom worked at the local grocery store as a bookkeeper. His dad, his name is William. He was in the Marine Corps, and then later he worked at the Kansas Gas Service Gas Distribution Center. But both of Dennis' parents worked long hours, and I guess, you know, because they're working all the time, they didn't pay much attention to their kids. They're working. Later in life,
Starting point is 03:31:04 Dennis would say that growing up he felt ignored by his mother specifically and I guess he like really resented her for this. He attended Riverview Elementary School and Wichita Heights High School. I guess he wasn't like a really good student, you know, and it was said that he was more introverted and withdrawn like his personality. And while still in grade school, Dennis developed sadistic sexual fantasies that involved torturing, quote, trapped, and helpless women. Yeah, in grade school. What the fuck? Forensic psychologist, Dr. Tony Rourke, who evaluated Dennis after he was caught, believed that Dennis must have, like, had an early childhood experience that tied his sexuality to watching like a living creature suffer and die.
Starting point is 03:31:58 You think, maybe? Yeah, that's what they think. In this doctor's opinion, after whatever that first event was, he must have nurtured and encouraged those feelings in himself. I couldn't find anything like Dennis himself saying like what happened, but obviously I think it's safe to say he was introduced to something very young, right? By the time Dennis hit puberty, his fantasies became like more elaborate and explicit. He was quoted as saying they were, quote,
Starting point is 03:32:28 almost like a picture show that he wanted to direct and produce. There was this actress on the Mousketeers. Well, do you remember the Mickey Mouse Club on TV? If you don't, that's okay. It was an old show. And there was this actress name was like Annette, but Dennis, like, would watch the show and he would see this Mousketeer and would visualize,
Starting point is 03:32:49 like she was the main person starring in his dark fantasies. Well, when Dennis was young, he participated in, you know, Boy Scouts and various activities through the Lutheran Church. And as a Boy Scout, unfortunately, he learned how, like, how to tie different knots, you know, with rope, which would, like, go on to be part of this process of torturing and murdering his victim. So that backfired. Dennis went to college for about a year, but then he dropped out. I don't know. He was over it.
Starting point is 03:33:24 And then he ended up serving in the U.S. Air Force from 1966 to 1970. And I guess like during that time, he was a perv. He would peek through like window blinds to watch women undress and would even sometimes break into like their homes when they weren't there and steal their underwear. Yeah. After the Air Force, Dennis moved to Park City, which was like just outside of Wichita. And when he was there, he worked in the meat department of the IGAC.
Starting point is 03:33:57 supermarket, and this is like where his mom had been working as the bookkeeper. Then in 1971, he married a woman named Paula and they went on to have two children together, a daughter named Carrie and a son named Brian. So like, as all of these stories usually go, it's like from the outside, it's like, oh, this, you know, all American family, working at the local supermarket, get raising their kids. Nobody thinks the damn thing. At some point, Dennis, he would enroll in the local community college. I mean, he's smart because he went to like Butler County Community College in El Dorado.
Starting point is 03:34:40 And he earned an associate's degree in electrical engineering technology. So it seems like he wasn't dumb, you know what I'm saying? During this time, he was also continuing to act on his sexual fetishes of voyeurism, voyeurism, auto-erotic asphyxiation and cross-dressing, but like loki, you know, no one knew. He was said that he would also spy on female neighbors while dressed in women's clothing and then would masturbate with ropes or other bindings around his arms and his neck. Yeah, he was a little extreme, huh? He also engaged in what's known as zoosatism.
Starting point is 03:35:18 It's bad. It's a torture and killing of small animals, like dogs and cats. Yeah. So he would like do that. He would strangle and hang animal victims. This is like the worst of the worst. Dennis would later say that he was obsessed with pornography. Like in his free time, if he wasn't killing animals or peeking on the neighbors,
Starting point is 03:35:42 he was looking at porn. And he even had like a special nickname for his penis. Yeah. He named him his penis Sparky. sparky and whenever he would get aroused he would call it big sparky time so there's that there's that sparky all right you know all right there was debate over like how others saw him some described him as well-mannered polite and normal and others said that he was obsessive and like extremely strict. So it was like, you know, how, you know, but I don't know. He was apparently known to
Starting point is 03:36:28 like bully single women and he killed a neighbor's dog for no reason during his time as a dog catcher because he was like a dog catcher for a little bit. I think it's safe to assume he just really liked control and power. In 1973, Dennis was working for that aviation company and then he got let go and this event seemed to like give Dennis a lot. of free time. It was said that this thrust him deeper into his violent fantasy life with too much free time. You know what they say. The devil's got work for idle hands. And boy, he had some idle hands. Like, I guess he started to crave knowing what it would be like to act on his sadistic impulses. Like, I don't know, you guys. He must have hid this so well from his
Starting point is 03:37:17 family. I mean, I watched interviews and stuff and like the kids were like, yeah, he did hide it really well. But it's like, I don't know why. I don't know why I'm not trying to like say I don't believe them or anything, you know, but like if you're married to someone, how do you not see little glimpses of like he's fucked up? Something's something ain't right, you know? I don't know. It's just scary to think you can marry someone and they could be this fucking bimbo. So Dennis began to quote unquote troll women, which meant he was like casing neighborhoods and school campuses where he would find a prospect, stalk them, and then develop like an elaborate fantasy
Starting point is 03:37:57 of bondage, sex, and murder around them. So Dennis had his thing. I mean, you'll see as we get into all the different murders that he did. He had his thing. He would routinely bind torture and strangle his victims. And most of them, majority of them were women. he had, I guess, like, a crime kit.
Starting point is 03:38:19 And in this kit, it was a gun. There were knives, hoods, cords, tape, plastic bags, gloves, and, like, various tools that he would use to break into people's houses. And again, I mean, I think it's obvious, but he really put a lot of thought into this. When he would arrive at victims' houses, he would cut the phone lines and either just knock on their door or, break into their homes. He would often like hold his victims up at gunpoint and just kind of, well, yeah, he would force them to obey. He would often lie to the victims telling them that he was a
Starting point is 03:38:59 quote, unquote, wanted man who was on the run. Sometimes he would leave evidence at the scene, like semen. But at the time, it was unclear like what kind of sexual acts were involved in his killings. And you know, there was no like DNA testing or anything at that yet. So the seaman like, They're like, they're semen. Too bad we can't do anything with it. And then in some of his later murders, he would transport the body from the scene of the crimes. The Oteros were a Latin family who had just moved into Dennis's neighborhood. And the family compromised of Jose Otero, who was 38. His wife, Julie, she was 33. And then they had five children, including Josephine, who was 11, and Joey, who was not. Now Dennis, he was watching them for a little bit before deciding, like, to, you know, murder them. Okay, great. Before the murders even took place, Dennis stalked Julie and Josephine for weeks to, like, learn their daily routines, what they were doing each day, where they were going, when they would come home, when no one was home, you know, all of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:40:10 So once he, like, followed them for a while, figuring out what their routine was, he devised a plan to, like, start. surprised Julie and Josephine at their home. On the morning of January 15, 1973, at 8.20 in the morning, Dennis, he broke into the Otero, their home, but he was surprised because he saw that Mr. Otero and Joey were at the home, but the other three kids, they were at school. And, like, normally they weren't going to be there. You know, he had been following them.
Starting point is 03:40:41 This was not their routine. So he was like, what the fun are these people doing here? But it didn't matter. He went ahead with the crime anyway. Dennis started off by telling the four Oteros that he was a, quote, wanted man, and then led them into the bedroom at gunpoint, where he tied them all up with rope that he had prepared. Joseph and Joey were put on the floor while Julie and Josie were on the bed. Dennis restrained the wrists and the feet of the parents. Joseph's head was covered with a plastic bag, which he bound with ropes.
Starting point is 03:41:12 but Joseph, I guess, ended up chewing a hole through the bag. So he was kind of able to, like, you know, get out of the fucking back. So he's able to, like, chew a hole through it. And he's, like, gasping for air. And unfortunately, like, Dennis realizes this. So he gets another bag. And he puts it over his head, which caused Joseph to, like, slowly suffocate to death. Ugh, I know.
Starting point is 03:41:39 Dennis tried strangling Julie. Okay, so he strangles her and then he thinks like she's dead, but she's not dead. She wakes up and she's like screaming, she's yelling, she's, you know, she's trying to get away. And then she starts begging with Dennis to like, please like let her son, Joey, go, let him go, let him go. Dennis, not there. Just like, he's not there, okay? Because he just proceeds to strangle her to death with the rope in front of the fucking kids. Once both parents were dead, he used a plastic bag stuffed with two t-shirts to suffocate Joey.
Starting point is 03:42:19 And he just, it was said like he just watched him die slowly. Like, ugh. Next, Dennis led Josie into the basement where he, I'm sorry, he hanged her with a noose from a pipe. I'm so sorry. I know. The police, they found evidence of semen near Josie's harsh. clothed body. The bodies were ultimately discovered by the three older kids who had been at school during the time of the murders. So sad. No. I was going to say, could you imagine? No. Couldn't
Starting point is 03:42:54 imagine. Coming home. Mm-mm. Well, only a few months after the Deutero murders, on April 4th, 1974, Dennis broke into the home of 21-year-old Catherine Doreen Bright. So he, Dennis, had like entered through the porch screen door. And then he was like hiding in her bedroom, just waiting for her. So at 2 p.m., she had come home with her 19-year-old brother. His name was Kevin. They came home. Dennis was surprised, you know, he was like not expecting this brother to come, right?
Starting point is 03:43:31 but he ends up surprising the two. Dennis, like, walks out. He has a gun in his hand, and he's holding them at gunpoint. And then again, he's telling them that he's a wanted criminal and that he needed a car, food, and money because he was on his way to New York. Dennis then forced the guy Kevin to restrain his sister, Catherine, with a rope.
Starting point is 03:43:57 And then he moved Catherine into the bedroom where he, like, proceeded to, to tie her down. So while in the bedroom, Catherine was like fighting back, obviously. She's fighting and fighting. And like Dennis was trying to strangle her, but then he gets really frustrated because Catherine was fighting back too much.
Starting point is 03:44:15 She was pretty good. She was like really fighting him. And I guess it made Dennis really upset because he could not seem to get her to stop. Dennis ended up, you know, stabbing her three times like in her back and her lower stomach because she was putting up too much of a fight. I guess then Dennis and Kevin gone to a fight
Starting point is 03:44:34 because Kevin was trying to fight back, trying to fight this guy off. And then unfortunately Dennis shot him in the head twice and then strangled him. And then miraculously, Kevin got away by pretending to be dead. So he wasn't dead, he was just laying there, pretending to be dead.
Starting point is 03:44:53 And then when the coast was clear, Kevin got up and like fled the scene. I guess a few months later between the Catherine, Catherine Bright murder and his next murder, Dennis had wrote a letter detailing the Otero killing that he ended up stashing in an engineering book that he left at the Wichita Public Library. So Dennis wouldn't murder again, I mean, as far as we know, until three years later, on March 17th, in 1977. This is when he would kill 25-year-old Shirley Relford. So Dennis was actually pursuing a different potential victim at this time. And I guess that victim, luckily, she wasn't home that
Starting point is 03:45:39 day. So then Dennis was like, I'll pivot. Could you imagine? Holy shit. Well, Dennis saw Shirley's five-year-old son, Steve. He's walking home. And Dennis was like, I'll just follow this kid home. So will follow as a kid home. Dennis knocks on the front door and little Steve answered. Dennis pretended to be a detective and little Steve let him in. And when Dennis got inside,
Starting point is 03:46:04 that's when he discovered that there were two other children who were also inside. Well, once Dennis was inside, he turns off the TV and then he turns down the blinds. Shirley, she was in her bedroom, she comes out and she sees Dennis, you know, freaks her out. Denison pulls out his gun,
Starting point is 03:46:20 holds her up at gunpoint, and then orders the children into the bathroom. He ties up all the kids in the bathroom and then locks them inside. He then gets Shirley, takes her into the back bedroom. It's unclear what Dennis did next and like whether he sexually assaulted Shirley or not. Detectives later, they would find semen next to Shirley's body.
Starting point is 03:46:49 So, you know, it's safe to assume he probably doesn't. did. But what we do know is that he tied her up or something. And then they smoked a cigarette together or he smoked a cigarette and must have like gave it to her at some point. But there was like a cigarette put out at the scene. And he had restrained her to the bed with rope, you know. And then at some point she had thrown up because there was vomit at the scene, which understandable. Then he ended up strangling her with a rope and then putting a plastic. bag over her head. Meanwhile, all of like the kids were like screaming in the bathroom. I guess Dennis, he had planned to kill the kids, but they had managed to escape before he could get to
Starting point is 03:47:34 them. So like, police come to the scene and stuff, but like there isn't much they can do. This is a time when there wasn't DNA and like, you know, all that jazz. Like how they solved crimes, I don't freaking know. So wild. So months later on December 18th, 1977, Dennis murdered. 25-year-old Nancy Joe Fox. He entered her home when she wasn't home. Well, first, you know, like, with all of his victims, he would, like, usually follow them and, like, learn their routines and stuff. So, like, he would know when they weren't home. And then when they weren't home, he would go inside and, like, cut the phone lines, which he did with Nancy. Like, I guess he had been stalking Nancy for quite some time. And when she returned home from her job, she was working
Starting point is 03:48:16 at the jewelry store. Dennis jumped out and surprised her at gunpoint in her kitchen. He told her her that he had a sexual issue and he needed to tie her up and rape her. Hey, I have a sexual issue. I'm sure those weren't the exact words, but it was something along those lines. So Dennis had allowed Nancy to like take off some of her clothes in the bathroom and then ordered her to get into the bedroom. And like it was just different. He didn't really let anyone else do that. So, you know, something happened inside. Once they were in the bedroom, that's where he tied her up and then he got undressed. Now while they're like in the bedroom together, he like starts to strangle her with his belt, but then he starts confessing to her. He's like, I killed the Otero
Starting point is 03:49:03 family. He's confessing things to her. He just obviously he's sick, but I guess he was so excited he just needed to tell somebody. I don't know. Well, Nancy would end up dying and, you know, when police came out to the scene and whatnot, Dennis's seaman was found on Nancy. Joe's nightgown, which was taken off at this point and was like found next to her. The next day on his way to work for ADT, the home security company, he was working for them. He ended up calling the police from a payphone and told them that they would find Nancy Fox's body at her home. A few months later in 1978, Dennis, I guess he wrote a sarcastic poem called Shirley Locks
Starting point is 03:49:49 and he sent it to the Wichita Eagle newspaper. And it was like describing Shirley's murder. Yeah, I guess he was a poet. So he sends that and then he sends another letter and it's titled O Death to Nancy. I think it's mimicking the song O Death by Ralph Stanley, I think. But he was mocking once again Nancy's murder. So killer is on the loose and he's mocking everybody. So it's just like not great.
Starting point is 03:50:19 It's not great. It's not ideal. This is not great. And then also, like, during this time, he's murdering, but he's also really busy. Like, and I, he's just, like, really busy. Because he's, like, working different jobs, Dennis's. And he also was receiving different degrees. For instance, in, like, 1979, he graduated from Wichita State University with a Bachelor of Science degree in administration of justice. I mean, he's doing a lot. Dennis worked at Coleman. company as an assembler, and he worked at ADT installing security systems for many of the people who feared getting murdered by a serial killer who was on the loose. The media had called this serial killer the BTK killer. A lot of people were scared, so they're calling up ADT to get the
Starting point is 03:51:07 security systems installed. Gosh, and it's Dennis. It's literally Dennis. Dennis also served as a census field operations supervisor. Yeah, the census people. Oh, God. Also, he was a dog catcher, a compliance officer, a Cub Scout leader, and the eventual president of the local chapter of the Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita. Yeah. So he was just, like, very involved with the community, which gave him, like, all the leverage, too. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
Starting point is 03:51:43 So then seven years go by, most likely because, like, Dennis was, like, raising his family. it's believed, but seven years go by. And on April 27th, 1985, Dennis murdered his 53-year-old neighbor, Marin Hedge. Yeah, his neighbor. I guess the two of them, they had lived on the same block for over 30 years in Park City. And he was like, I'm a killer. So Dennis was at a Boy Scout meeting the night that, like, this took place. And he told the Scout people, the Boy Scout's like, I got to leave her.
Starting point is 03:52:18 I got a headache, you know, and I got to go home and I got to get some medicine. He goes out, right, and he goes to a local bowling alley, and he gets a beer. And while he's there, he's drinking beer and he, like, spills some of the beer on himself because he wants to appear drunk. Then he calls a cab pretending to be drunk, and he takes it back to Park City. So Dennis sees, like, Marin's car in her driveway, so he's assuming that she's home. Look, this is, hold on, I got to go back to the drunk thing because I kind of got hung up on that for a minute. I was like, why is he trying to pretend that he's drunk? My assumption is like it's an
Starting point is 03:52:51 alibi, right? Like, oh, he was at the bowling alley and he was drunk. That's why he took a cab. I don't know. I'm kind of, like, I kind of don't get it. I'm missing something, obviously. I'm sure one of you will let me know. That's why I'm asking. Okay, so he does all that. Anyways, he sees Marron's cars in the driveway, so he's like, she's home. So he goes and he cuts the phone lines and like, you know, outside of her house, and then he walks through the back door and realizes that she wasn't there. So he decides to just wait for her. And he waits for her in her bedroom until early in the morning. Like she ends up returning back to her home close to like 1 a.m., but she returns with a man. So Dennis is hiding in the bedroom closet all the way until 1 a.m. And he's waiting until this man
Starting point is 03:53:41 leaves and then she like goes to sleep. Once he thinks she's asleep, Dennis jumps on Marin and like chokes her to death. Once Marin is dead, Dennis then drags her body outside and then puts it in the trunk of her own car. He then drove her to the Christ Lutheran church where he was the council president. He then covered the windows in black plastic so no one could see like what he was doing and then he takes her body and puts it in the church basement. So when he's in there, in the basement, all alone, he's now like taking photographs. Now he's a photographer.
Starting point is 03:54:21 He's taking photographs of her body and like putting her body in different poses, taking pictures. And then when he was done, he puts her back into the trunk of the car and then dumps her body in a ditch along a dirt road, near her home. This guy is beyond sick. Merrin's body was found like a week later on May 5th. So Dennis's next victim was 28-year-old. Vicki Lynn Wiglerly, she was 28, right? She was a mother of two and Dennis had been stalking her. He would walk by her house and like I guess she would be playing the piano and he would just like listen to her playing the piano. He was just following.
Starting point is 03:55:07 her everywhere she went. Again, I was like, how did he have the time? He has his own family, he had a job, he was getting degrees. He was like doing all this shit and he freaking found the time, okay? He did because he put a lot of thought into this murder. He referred to this murder as the PJ Project. I don't know, I don't know. But this one was like a passion project of his, I guess.
Starting point is 03:55:30 Dennis would show up at Vicki's door at 10 a.m. on September 16th, 1986 and when he shows up he tells her that he's the telephone repair man uh i hate it i hate it because it's like fuck i would let them in i mean i'm not gonna now i'm not gonna now nope don't try it because i'm not gonna but like oh you're the telephone repair man oh great you know oh anyways so he tells he's a telephone repair man she lets him in once he's inside i guess that's when he like cuts her uh her phone line. So once he cuts her phone line, he then holds her up at gunpoint. And then, you know, he's able to get her, tie her up. She was able to, like, fight him off. But he's a big boy, big gross guy. So he takes a rope and he chokes her with it and he ends up choking
Starting point is 03:56:26 her to death. So once she was dead, he took photographs and then he like rearranged her clothes, rearranged your body, took photos, then took photos of like her nude body, just all in different positions. And then he ends up leaving in Vicky's car. So he leaves in Vicki's car, and while he's driving, Vicki's husband is like driving back to the house. So he spots Vicky's car,
Starting point is 03:56:55 and he's like, oh my God, is that my wife's car? And he couldn't make out who the driver was, but he's like, that's my wife's car. So Vicky's husband gets home, And that's where he finds his two-year-old son was alone in the living room. And he's like, what the fuck? And he's like, searching the house. And he ends up finding Vicky on the floor behind the bed in their bedroom.
Starting point is 03:57:15 So he rushes his wife to the hospital. But sadly, a few hours later, she was pronounced dead. So while this was happening, Dennis was like getting rid of, you know, any evidence. And he parked the car a few blocks away from Vicky's home. Then he went to his house and he like changed his clothes, you know, got rid of any evidence on himself. So by 1991, Dennis decided that older woman would be like better victims because to him they were more vulnerable than the younger women. So he's like, I'm going to pivot now to more mature women. So on January 19th, Dennis kills 62-year-old D. Davies.
Starting point is 03:57:59 So this time Dennis, like, devised an intricate plan. He was on a weekend Boy Scout camping trip and came up with like an excuse to slip away. He then drove his car to his parents' house to change into his hit clothes. Then he left his car at the Baptist Church in Park City and would then like carry out like the rest of his plan on foot. So he went to Dolores' house and waited outside
Starting point is 03:58:29 until he could tell that she had fallen asleep. Then he used a cement block that he found. He's like, oh, there's a cement block. And he ends up breaking the glass on her back door. Because of this loud commotion, Dolores wakes up. She comes out of her bedroom, and that's where she sees Dennis. He said that same old lie that he had been, like, saying for a while that he, you know, he was like a wanted man. I don't know why he liked that so much.
Starting point is 03:58:56 Well, I think because, like, then when police are searching for him, they'd be like, oh, he's a wanted. man on the run, so he must not be from around here. You know, I think that's what it was all about. But anyways, he said he was a wanted man. He needed money. He needed food and he needed a car. That's what he tells Dolores. And then he ties her up in her bedroom where he just like fucking fucked with her until like
Starting point is 03:59:20 he strangled her to death. Dennis then took Dolores's body and put her into the trunk of her own car. And he hit her body along with some evidence. at a lake near some trees. But he drove, like, Dolores' car back to her house and then wiped it down, trying to get rid of any fingerprints, you know? And then he went back to the church and got his own car. Then he returned to the body to put in his own car
Starting point is 03:59:49 and then dispose of it again under a bridge in Sedgwick County. Well, then it's not over because Dennis then, like, changes back into his scout uniform, and then joins back up with the Boy Scouts group. Like nothing happened. He's like, hey guys, yeah, I just popped out for like two seconds. Isn't that wilds? I'm back now. Hi.
Starting point is 04:00:09 And then the next night, he once again went back to the body and like photographed it. Just took pictures of it in different situations. Police then found Dolores's body like a few weeks later on February 1st. So there were like other potential victims that many believe Dennis were responsible for killing. The first was 16-year-old Cynthia Kinney. Cynthia was last seen on June 23rd, 1976. She was at the Osage. Sorry, I forgot to look up how to pronounce it. Osage, O'Sage, Oklahoma, and she was at the laundry mat in this town. Three things that connected Dennis to Cynthia's disappearance were one. Dennis was in the area for a Boy Scout trip at the time of her
Starting point is 04:00:57 disappearance. Two, ADT alarms were also being installed across the street from the laundromat where Cynthia went missing. And again, Dennis was like a regional installer for the security company. And then three, Dennis had, I guess, a particular fantasy about kidnapping a girl from a laundromat. So, yeah. Dennis would deny any involvement, but many people suspect it's because a murder in Oklahoma could result in the death penalty, whereas, like, there was no death penalty in Kansas, and, like, where his other murders had taken place. So many think, like, he didn't want to confess because he didn't want the death penalty because he's a little chicken shit and didn't want to get the death penalty.
Starting point is 04:01:45 Meanwhile, all of his other victims got the death penalty, like, because of his dumb fuck. I hate this guy. He's a little chicken. He acts like he's so big and bad, but he's a little boy. baby. He's a big old fucking baby. The second potential victim of Dennis was 22-year-old Shauna Beth Garber. Shana was found murdered in McDonnell County, Missouri on December 2nd, 1990. Her remains are actually not identified until 2021. She had been raped, strangled, and hogtied using six different types of cords.
Starting point is 04:02:26 Shawna had gone missing on November 3rd of 1990 and like it was unsolved for a really long time. It wasn't until 2023 that authorities actually named Dennis as the prime suspect because there was photographic evidence of the crime found in one of his journals. So I think it's pretty safe to assume that he did it. Yeah. Yeah. So what now? well. We jump 13 years later. It's 2004. So by 2004, like the investigation into this BTK killer had run cold. The local news was saying that the killer was most likely either dead
Starting point is 04:03:09 or in prison because like nothing has happened in a long time. So when Dennis hears this, he wants attention. He initiates a series of 11 communications with the media and the police. So the first of these communications came in March of 2004 when the Wichita Eagle received a letter from a quote, Bill Thomas Kilman, BTK. This Bill Thomas Kilman was claiming to have murdered Vicky on September 16th, 1986. So at the time authorities weren't necessarily sure
Starting point is 04:03:44 Vicky had been a victim of this BTK guy, but the letter included photographs of the crime scene and even a photocopy of VTK guy. of Vicki's driver's license. So from there, there was actually DNA taken from Vicki's fingernails, like underneath her fingernails, and that gave police new evidence, which led them to DNA testing hundreds of men.
Starting point is 04:04:08 But unfortunately, like, there was no match at the time. There was no one in their system with, like, any connection to this DNA they found. So then in May of 2004, Dennis sent another letter, this time to the television station, Cake, or K-A-K-E, but it's in Wichita. And the letter included chapter headings of the BTK story with also fake IDs in a word puzzle. I know, what the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 04:04:40 How did he have the time? Well, then on June 9th, there was a package that was found taped to like a stop sign at the corner of first. and Kansas Road in Wichita. And the package, it had graphic descriptions of the Otero murders, as well as a sketch labeled, The Sexual Thrill Is My Bill. Dennis included a chapter list for a proposed book
Starting point is 04:05:07 named the BTK story, which, like, mimicked a story written in 1999 by court TV crime writer David Lour. The first chapter was titled, A Serial Killer is Born. He was just trying to make fun of like everyone pretty much. There you go. And then in July of that same year,
Starting point is 04:05:30 there was a package that was dropped into a return slot at like the local public library. It contained like all kinds of bizarre material, including a claim that BTK had killed 19 year old Jake Allen in Argonia, Kansas. When in fact, this 19 year old is named Jake Allen, died by suicide, but in this thing, they were claiming that BTK did it, maybe as a distraction or something, I don't know. And then October of 2004, Dennis left a Manila envelope in a UPS box in
Starting point is 04:06:06 Wichita, and the envelope contained images of children being like tortured and bound. And then there was a poem that was threatening the lead investigator at the time. His name was Lieutenant Ken. And there was an autobiography of Dennis with like multiple fake and made-up details. It was an autobiography of the BTK killer, but like none of it applied to Dennis. He was a storyteller, I guess. Then in December of 2004, Wichita Police got another package from BTK. This one was found in Murdoch Park, and it contained the driver's license of Nancy Fox, as well as a doll that was bound at the hands and feet with a plastic bag that was like tied over its head. In January of 2005, Dennis tried leaving a cereal box in the bed of like a pickup truck that was parked at Home Depot in Wichita.
Starting point is 04:07:04 But I guess like when the the owner of the truck came out of Home Depot, he sees like the cereal box and he like grabs it and just like, the fuck is that doing it in here and like tosses it. So that didn't work out. But it was later retrieved from the track. after like Dennis had asked, he'd asked about the cereal box in a follow-up message to police. He was like, did you get my cereal box? Question mark, question mark.
Starting point is 04:07:29 They're like, no, we didn't get your cereal box. What serial box? But there were surveillance footage that showed a figure. They couldn't make out who, but it was a person driving a black Jeep Cherokee who was leaving the cereal box in the pickup truck. So this was great because now they had like a car,
Starting point is 04:07:47 a make and model, black Jeep Cherokee. Okay, they're like, fuck you. Like that's something, okay? And then in February of that year, there were more postcards that were sent to that television station, cake, and another cereal box with a bound doll inside was found in like a rural location. So at one point during Dennis's communications with police, he asked if he could put his writings on a floppy disc, and if they could trace the floppy disk back to him. Now, mind you, when he's communicating with police, they don't know it's actually Dennis, you know?
Starting point is 04:08:23 It's just like anonymous. But this anonymous writer was like, hey, if I put stuff on a floppy desk, will you be able to track it back to me? Like, genuinely asking this. And the police replied in a newspaper ad. It was like in the Wichita Eagle. And they're like, no, we can't. We can't trace it back to you. So Dennis got the bright idea to send a purple 1.44 megabyte Memorex.
Starting point is 04:08:48 How you say it? Memorex? Whatever. He sends a floppy disk to KS-A-S-T-V in Wichita. And along with it, he sends a letter, a necklace. I had like a large medallion and a photocopy of the cover of Rules of Prey, which is a novel by John Sanford, and it's about a serial killer. So police, they get their hands on this floppy disk, and they're able to get the metadata on the floppy disk. And it's from, they realize it's from like a deleted Microsoft Word document, and on this document, it included the words Christ Lutheran Church. Also, the document was marked as last modified by Dennis. Ooh, you. So he must have been using the church computer, huh? Oh, you stupid fuck. So great for investigators, because now they got something to work with, right? So they do some dig-in, and they discover that the president of the church council was a man named Dennis Rader.
Starting point is 04:09:56 Ugh, this must have been such a win. They're like, finally. They get, like, Dennis's address, and they send out a guy to go do, like, a drive-by. And they see that, like, parked right outside of Dennis's house was a black Jeep Cherokee, just like the one they saw in their surveillance footage. Oh, yeah, they got their guy. You know, these clues. you'd think they would just pull up and be like, we got our guy, case closed.
Starting point is 04:10:21 They provided like strong circumstantial evidence, but they needed concrete or they wanted more concrete evidence to arrest Dennis. What they do, Bailey? Well, hold on, let me tell you. So police obtained a warrant to DNA test a pap smear that Dennis's daughter, her name's Carrie, she had done a pap smear at like Kansas State Medical Clinic. So they get her DNA and they test it and it reveals that there's, is a familial match to the DNA that was found under Vicki's fingernails, one of the victims.
Starting point is 04:10:53 And this DNA match was enough to arrest Dennis Rader. Thank God she'd got a pap smear. I think I said this in one of my old videos, but it's so true. Like if you ever get attacked and like, which I hope never happens to any of us, but if it does happen, scratch the shit out of these people. Get as much DNA under your freaking fingernails as you possibly can. Okay? I'm paranoid as hell, but I'm always thinking about that, like, just scratch.
Starting point is 04:11:19 Just fucking scratch. I hope it never happens, but, you know. So on February 25th, 2005, Dennis Rader was arrested while driving near his home in Park City. A police officer asked Dennis, like, if he knew why he was being arrested. And Dennis responded with like, oh, I have a suspicion why. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I hate him.
Starting point is 04:11:41 He's gross. Various law enforcement agents. including Wichita Police, the Kansas Bureau of Investigation, the FBI, and ATF agents. They all searched his home, his vehicle, his church, his office at City Hall, and the main branch of the Park City Library. And there was a lot of evidence seized, but there were, like, some of it was, like, black pantyhose, computer equipment, the trophies they found. And, like, the next morning, police chief Norman Williams declared, like to the public at the bottom line
Starting point is 04:12:18 was that BTK was arrested little did they all know it was a guy that like everyone knew could you imagine? No, no couldn't imagine
Starting point is 04:12:29 it's like that guy fuck on February 28th 2005 Dennis Raider was charged with 10 counts of first degree murder and then a week later
Starting point is 04:12:38 news sources reported that Dennis had confessed to all 10 murders Did you know these people Well, that was part of my, I guess my, what you call fantasy. These people were selected. Now, when you use the term fantasy, is this something you were doing for your personal pleasure? Sexual fantasy, sir.
Starting point is 04:12:58 His bail was set to $10 million, and there was, like, a public defender who was appointed to represent him. On May 3rd, Dennis was pleading not guilty, but then on June 27th, like the scheduled trial date, Dennis would end up changing his plate to guilty. And he would go on to, like, detail the murders, but he didn't apologize. Why would he, huh? Dennis's public defender had him evaluated by forensic psychologist Robert Mendoza to see if, like, an insanity defense was an option. Mendoza diagnosed Dennis with narcissistic, obsessive, compulsive, and antisocial personality disorders.
Starting point is 04:13:39 He said that Dennis had a grandiose sense of self-phased. believing that he was special and entitled to special treatment. Dennis had a pathological need for attention and admiration, a complete lack of empathy, and a preoccupation with maintaining rigid order. Dennis's evaluation by this Dr. Mendoza was filmed, and that footage was used actually in an episode of Dateline about Dennis. You can watch it on YouTube.
Starting point is 04:14:09 During his trial, he made various comments and revelations about his victims. He said that the Otero family and Shirley Relford would serve him as sex slaves in the afterlife. Yeah. Like really, dude? Yeah, really. He also said that he would have killed Shirley's daughter, but the phone ring and scared him off. He was quoted as saying, I probably would have hung the little girl. Okay, cool, thanks, you know. Oh, he also went on to say, I'm pretty mean or could be, but on the other hand, I'm very, you know, I'm a nice guy. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 04:14:52 That's what he said, I'm a nice guy. Okay. Sure. Dennis went on to describe Nancy Joe Fox's murder as, quote, perfect because she mostly cooperated, and he had complete control over her. Mm-hmm. He also then revealed that he threw D. Davies, was it D. Davies? He threw her body under a bridge,
Starting point is 04:15:15 but returned to it later. And when he did, the body was like badly decomposed. So because of this, he placed a feminine mask over her face and then like photographed her body to use in like his scrapbook, essentially. He was like, the face was ugly, so I put a mask over it. It's like, oh my God. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 04:15:39 Dennis Raider was sentenced on August. 18th. And at the sentencing, you know, the victim's families come up and they made statements. Pretty much saying like, F you, dude. F you. How could you? And like Dennis just like wasn't even bothered. And you know, then it was his turn. Dennis's time to like say something to address the court. And Dennis apologized kind of in like a rambling 30 minute speech, which like it's actually been described as an example of a phenomenon. seen in psychopaths where they have an inability to understand the emotional content of language. Dennis Rader was sentenced to 10 life sentences with a minimum of 175 years. Now at this time,
Starting point is 04:16:27 there was no death penalty in Kansas, but since they've actually reinstated it, put him down, I say put him down. They reinstated it after like they caught the worst guy ever. So that's cool. is still alive, you know? Yeah. To this day, he's like in solitary confinement for his own protection. He gets one hour of exercise a day and he gets to shower at least three times a week. His cell is pretty small and he refers to his cell as his cave and he has like no contact with other inmates because like they most likely would kill him if they had access to him. Would we be mad? Is that fucked up? No, come on. No, he's fucked up. We wouldn't be mad. We wouldn't be mad. We wouldn't mind.
Starting point is 04:17:18 I'm sorry, that's mean. But is that not really? So forensic psychologist, Dr. Catherine Ramsland, she actually was talking with Dennis for over six years while he was in prison. And together they created what she called a, quote, guided autobiography. It's titled Confession of a Serial Killer, the Untold Story of Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer. And in their communication, they developed, like, a code, a codex is what he liked to call it, which allowed him to, like, write freely about his victims. And sure, okay, you know, and, like, it was said, like, when this doctor was, like, corresponding with Dennis, she said it was, like, really challenging because, like, at one point, Dr. Ramsland had asked Dennis to describe one of his torture fantasies, and in return, like, he didn't. and said he sent her a 14-page letter along with, like, newspaper clippings, photographs, and recipes,
Starting point is 04:18:16 as well as, like, a key to help decipher clues. So he was, like, playing games with her. He was like, girl, what did you expect? That he was just going to be, like, open and, like, tell you everything, you know? Like, of course he's going to play games. He's bored as fuck. He's locked up all day and someone's interested in him. Someone's stroking his ego a little bit.
Starting point is 04:18:34 Of course he's going to be a dick. But anyways, Dr. Ramsland, she concluded that this, was his way of like retaining control. She said she managed to like learn a great deal about his inner life. Like he apparently fixated on anything bound or knotted and he loved abandoned silos referring to them as castles and he loved the number three. And his favorite colors purple. I'm kidding. I don't know that. But like his favorite number is three. Wow, you've learned so much. She also said that he created an image of himself as a hunter or like a predator. He even referred to the killer inside of himself as the minotaur. So he said at times the
Starting point is 04:19:17 minotar would go quote dark. He would say that all of his violent crimes and his sexual tendencies were all because of this minotar. And he claimed that he started out as like, like he referred to himself as like white hat, but then periodically would be dragged to the dark side. Such a fucking eye roll. Okay. Sure. Apparently like as a child. the sight of chickens about to be slaughtered, aroused him, he went on to say. He told the doctor that, like, he fantasized about tying women down onto train tracks and, like, would masturbate to his father's book about the lonely hearts killer. And Dr. Ramsland explained, like, a lot of readers' writing was often boring and, like,
Starting point is 04:20:00 run of the mill, but then all of a sudden it would, like, slip into some really dark shit. Which is like, sure, I could see that, right? Sure. As Dr. Ramsland put it, quote, and all of a sudden you feel like you're suddenly in Minotar territory. It's almost like you're paddling at the surface of the water, and suddenly something pulls you down, end quote. Yeah, I could see that, sure. Okay, she also learned that he kept keepsakes from all of his victims, and he would hide them all around like Wichita in what he called Heidi Holes. Apparently, at every victim's home, he would like go through all their stuff,
Starting point is 04:20:37 take jewelry, lingerie, IDs, and other items that he would keep for memories. Or like, you know, people refer to them as trophies. It was said that Dennis was motivated to work with Dr. Ramsland because he wanted to uncover what made him go dark. But Dr. Ramsland concluded it really wasn't anything that unique. Like, he came off very desperate. Like, he desperately wanted to be seen as someone who was very complex, special, and mysterious. But, but, But, you know, like, he wasn't. He wasn't. She attributes his psychology to what she calls the trajectory toward violence, which is a combination
Starting point is 04:21:20 of sexual impulses, desire for fame, delusions of a double life, intersecting with the opportunity to commit murders. Damn. And that, my friends, is today's case about Dennis Raider, the BTK killer. There's so much to this guy and honestly he terrifies me, which I hate giving him or any murderer, any type of credit or power over my psyche. But this type of guy like freaks the shit out of me because like no rhyme or reason he would just spot you and be like you, you're next and that is
Starting point is 04:22:04 scary. I don't like that. I don't like this guy. He was sick and he was living this full on double life. Like he had a family and everything and they swear they didn't know anything. And if you watch interviews and stuff, I believe it. I believe it like he seemed like this great loving dad who like liked his kids and shit. And he was doing some horrible stuff. I just like could not fucking imagine. Could you imagine? No. No. Just one day you wake up and like everyone's telling you that your husband is like this absolute psychopath. What? Oh, I feel so bad for the family.
Starting point is 04:22:45 What a mind fuck that would be, right? And then this dentist guy is just a loser. He's just a loser who wanted detention and was sick and is just a fucking loser. Scum on the bottom of our shoes. It sucks. I wish they killed him, which is like, oops, sorry, I shouldn't say that. but like, you know, they should have. So how do we end it, friends?
Starting point is 04:23:08 I don't know. This is one of those stories that reminds me to be, like, aware. Aware of your surroundings. Lock your doors. Be careful. Snooping your husband's shit if you have to. He's alone in the basement or something. What are you doing?
Starting point is 04:23:24 What are you doing? Go down there. Go through all this shit. Just make sure. Okay? Just make sure. She's like, damn, you can't trust anyone, huh? lame so yeah that's that huh sheesh yeah uh let me know your thoughts down below do you have any
Starting point is 04:23:44 i know i kind of left out i'm sorry i did leave out a lot about like the family the personal life and stuff sometimes i just don't know if i included or not i don't know it's about the guy i don't know anyways let me know what you think down below your comments and whatnot and who you want me to talk about next time because i am always reading the comments i see you I appreciate you for watching and hanging out with me. To end it positively, I like this makeup look. It came out cute, huh? I know.
Starting point is 04:24:10 I feel so cute. Look it. Yeah? Great. Well, I hope we have a good day today. You make good choices. Please be safe out there. Yeah, I appreciate you guys so much.
Starting point is 04:24:21 And I hope to see you next time. Okay? Okay. Bye. Thank you.

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