Mysterious Universe - 35.11 - MU Podcast - Human Static

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

This week we dive into another work by Marcus Lowth, The Electric People. He documents the stories of "SLIders", or Street Light Interference experiencers. From simple accounts of lights flickering when passed by, to more profound electrical abnormalities, he ties them all in to possible UFO/UAP connections, and the broader paranormal field as a whole. Are these just psychosomatic hallucinations, real EMF interference by humans, or perhaps the other way around?  Thank you for joining us for your Plus+ Extension where we discuss some truly bizarre invisible creature sightings, which we are fully aware sounds silly in and of itself. Rather, humanoid outlines of creatures seemingly there but not entirely visible. Found in the great work of Dirk Gillabel in his "Translucent Humanoid Beings". What are people kind of seeing out there? Check out the link below and get the new Inescapable Podcast out now. Get both amazing shows for the investment of one through April 14th. Plus+ Members can now find the new feed on your Dashboard and add it to your preferred podcast player. From Deep Within The Archives Of UFO Insight: History’s Most Bizarre, Outlandish, And Controversial UFO And Alien Encounters! Video - This Frog Hides In Plain Sight 10 Invisible Animals in the World That Will Blow Your Mind ! Transparent & Invisible Animals List Behold the Glimmer Man - Expanded Perspectives “Has Anyone Else Seen This Being?”: Pennsylvania Family Claims Predator -Like Humanoid Sighting Video - Unknown creature in the trees Creature Encountered - Fantoms and Monsters A Cloaked Bigfoot - Hernando's Hideaway Like Looking Through WaterYosemite Park, USA - Phantoms and Monsters LinkPlus+ ExtensionThe extension of the show is EXCLUSIVE to Plus+ Members. To join. click HERE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I found another one in the archive. Again, this is a PDF that Benin Aaron sent us, so I couldn't find the actual book. But I will link to his other works that you can find. And again, if you want the PDF, I will send it to you. I am your host, Joe Hodgden today. And joining me, as always, is Brandon Thomas. Hey, fella. How are you?

Doing great. Hope everybody's week went well. If you were on Plus, you heard our show that came out Tuesday on the Mysterious Lighthouse Disappearance. And I had never heard that story before. So if you're interested in kind of a classic old school, whodunit type of thing, mysteriousuniverse.org slash plus, forward slash plus, actually. Do you even use backslashes anymore? I don't know.

What is the backslash for? Is that for the real internet, not the fake internet that we use? I don't know. That's how you know. When you're typing in an earl, isn't it always forward slash? I don't know. I think so. That's what I've generally seen, but I've taken it for granted.

I don't know, man. I can't verify that for sure. But yes, generally, I want to say yes. Yeah, we can't absolutely. And it's got some brilliant sound effects as well. So very authentic. We really take you there. You're transported to the 1900s mystery of this lighthouseman.

So the soundboard of Brandon's mouth. It was in full force. That's what you're missing on plus. So, yeah. Yeah, to get into this, first of all, everybody, have a great week. Yes. Brandon, do you do anything exciting? Yes, actually. Besides your sink?

Oh, man. This is one of those things, right? So we go to do this simple job. Oh, cool. We'll replace the kitchen sink. It's in a laminate countertop. It's in an older home, man, built 40-something years ago. So we're like, okay, got this.

Now, we just, all the pipes will match up, got it. Ordered the sink. Got it in. It was a sink tub combo. So it had the basin. It had the thing that came with it. We put it all together. brilliantly in my head. My wife did I go through these amazing projects just seamlessly. She just

really works with me. She was going behind me like a sous chef and would just like clean up and I would be cutting something, you know, and she would go back with a vacuum like right behind the cut line and it would all go. It's just really cool. But yes, tackling this thing that should have taken, I was like, oh, two hours I'll get back to work. Now, it was two trips to Home Depot. We had, I bought a new tool, which is great. It's an awesome little oscillating thing I wanted anyway. but it ended up requiring cutting countertops, rerunning the pea traps and all the plumbing underneath. Just interesting opportunities in disguise for the entire project of which we persevered. We have a beautiful new sink in the kitchen there, and so we can say that we have changed most things on this house and the kitchen sink, including the kitchen sink.

Perfect. Yep. But it was a bitch. That's been my life since I started this whole gig is doing stuff around the house. And hopefully nobody can hear the little baby chicks I have in the other room. Got to move on when we record, but they're cheap and away getting bigger. And I just, we was talking to Brandon before the show and I'd never come across this before. I've been a chicken tender for about five, six years now and never seen a baby chick that had a permaturd.

Oh, yeah. And the unholy cloaca of the chicken, it apparently gets cloggered up every once in a while. So I had to go deal with that before the show. Yes, yes. We would raise these fancy chickens, the bantams, just like what you got. The six-toe, they have the extra toe. and that's how you know they're bantam chickens, this style of chicken. We're getting to this stuff, guys.

I promise we're going to get to weird shit. And I've got cool stuff for the extension, too. That's weird also and not chicken-related. But this is important. So if your chicken owner's out there, you're thinking about getting them, they will gum up on the backside there. So you do need to take little scissors very gently and trim away that down from their beehole there

so that it can pass unimpeded so nothing's hanging on to it. Like those hands, whenever the labyrinth, right, when she's falling down the well and all those hands grab her, you got to remove that. it doesn't do that to the turds and gum up your little baby chick's butt because they will die from that, actually. Yeah, she wasn't very happy about it, but we got it right out of there. The soundboard. Did you, so you got it all tightened up?

She's good to go? I think so. If not, I got to soak her butt in warm water or whatever and try to fix it because I don't want to be losing one. And actually, the dark ones I got are called Dark Brahmas. Is that part of a Bantam? Yeah. I think Brahmas are bantoms. Yeah, they have an extra toe.

This is how you can tell. They have like a second thumb, basically. Like that dude from Marvel that hung out with Thanos. He had that extra thumb, and they have this extra little toe. That's how you can tell. But yes, cut your chickens, beeholes, for around your beeholes, guys. So that's your farm tip of the week. They're adorable, though.

They've got fuzzy little feats, and I can't wait to get their delicious eggs, their butt nuggets. Yeah, yeah. They're disgusting creatures, but a lot of fun to have. They really are, and they poop so much. So much. Anyway, we'll get to the topic now. Sorry about that. We didn't even do a MU weather update, but hey.

It's been, we got a freaking freeze, man. The last one I think is our precontries are blooming now in full bloom. So it was like this last little bit that came through, plant away, Texas is what I will go ahead and say if you're in this seven hardness zone right there. We're looking good. We're getting warm up here in northern California. Let me tell you, it's about almost 90 today. And I can feel I even have my fan on today.

It's March. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're getting 90s this week. Yes, sir. Why not? One last little cold snap, you know, Chris and them came in and it was just freezing, literally freezing. We woke up, it's 30-something. I'm like, dude, what the hell?

He was like, I did not dress for freaking freezing in Texas right now. I was like, I know, neither do we. So, yes, it's been wild. The weather does what it wants, unless people are involved. And especially the stuff with patents on it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Before we get into the electric people by Marcus Loth, what do you have coming up in plus? Do you know yet?

Yes, so I have a PDF by Dirk Gillibel that we're going to go for. Yes, called translucent humanoid beings. I thought of you going through this because the whole thing about this is, is that they're humanoid beings, but they are translucent, and they look cloaked like the movie, The Predator, like the thing that you encountered. And there is just a rash of these sightings on here, and the guy's talking about if you even saw an invisible being, would you even mention it? I mean, you did, thank God, we appreciate you for your service.

Are there beings who are invisible and you can't see them? And is this just a disposition of some creatures? Is this a feature? Sort of like the cuttlefish or literal chameleons. Can they mimic the background, but in such a way to where it makes them very translucent removes all the pigments out of their skin? There's another frog that sucks to the bottom of a leaf in the Amazon, and it'll move blood cells around its body to be as translucent as the leaf when sun is shining of it on it from above

so they don't give their silhouette away. there are creatures documented in a human world, I suppose we could say, the 3D here, that demonstrate these properties in very peculiar ways, but you could see it scaled. The other thing to this is, of course, if there was a race of translucent beings out there, there would be very little evidence of it. Who's to say they go lucent? Maybe they're never lucent. Maybe they're just outside of our visible spectrum. But there's a rash of stories in here, and we're going to go over it. It's a lot of fun.

Nice. Dirk Billabellible is just coming out. bangor after banger. Bangor, the guy's awesome. This is written in 2024, so we'll go over it pretty recent here with some just really cool accounts. Definitely sign up in the links down below guys for Plus, and you can still get access to both shows Inescapable and this banger up through April 14th. So sign up now and the links are down below. Very nice. Well, with no more ado, I don't think there's any more ado. So we'll move right into the electric people by Marcus Loth. And he starts out, I mean, when electricity behaves strangely, and we already know that we don't know everything about everything.

We know very little about almost everything. So, but one of the curious patterns that shows up again and again in accounts of these paranormal experiences, experiences, involves electricity. It's something investigators have noted for decades. Witnesses report these lights, you know, flickering or failing electronic devices behaving erratically, especially in UFO encounters, the batteries draining unexpectedly, or maybe appliances switching themselves on and off for no reason. And the explanations that usually come about for these incidents vary pretty widely, you know, from faulty wiring, you know, it's a coincidence,

it's a psychological expectation, maybe it's environmental interference. But this pattern itself has been observed often enough that it continues to attract attention. And within that larger category is a particularly strange claim that some individuals appear to influence electrical systems simply by being nearby them. Yes. And this phenomenon is usually referred to as street light interference often shortened to fly or sliders. Oh, yes, sliders, that's right.

Not the little burgers. These are folks who turn lights off street lights as they drive by them. Yes. And I know Ben and Aaron have covered these stories a bunch, but I thought it would be fun to We haven't yet. So to revisit the slider phenomenon. Let's slide into it. The basic claim is pretty straightforward as these individuals walk beneath street lights,

and it's usually older sodium lamps, at least in the stories, the lights suddenly switch off or flicker briefly before returning to normal. And sometimes the effect lasts only a few seconds, and sometimes the light remains out until the person's already walked far down the street. And at first glance, this sounds kind of like the thing most of us would just dismiss immediately. these stupid street lights fail all the time. Anyone who's walked through a city at night has probably seen lamps coming off and on as they reach the end of their, you know, bulb lifespan. When that happens to coincide with someone passing underneath, it's easy to assume the two events are connected.

Skeptics often point out exactly that. And a physicist named David Barlow has argued that people are very likely just seeing patterns in random noise or almost a, you know, a peridolia type of thing. Right. In other words, when something unusual happens at the precise moment we are present, we instinctively interpret it as being caused by us even when it isn't. Synchronicity. Syncreticity, man. It only happens when I'm there. That's crazy.

It's repeatable, though. That's science. Exactly. It's the patterning that's important. Right. But this phenomenon just refuses to disappear entirely, at least under that explanation, but not because there's strong scientific evidence supporting it because there isn't, but because the stories themselves just. keep coming up. People from different countries and backgrounds and all ages describe experiences that sound strangely similar, and most insists they have no control over when it happens. Many of them

say they didn't even notice the pattern until it occurred dozens of times. And what makes the accounts more interesting is another detail that appears repeatedly as well, and that's emotional state, something we've gone over time and time again, whether it's in the time slips or the NDEs or any of that stuff. Many people who believe they experience this sly say the events happen most often when they are under stress or deep in thought. So things like anxiety or frustration or just even strong concentration seems, at least in their perception, to coincide with the moments when these lights flicker or go out

completely. This reminds you of the Montauk projects and the stuff that they were doing in MK Ultra where they would get folks so tortured out or in a stressed out state that they would get to these psychic abilities and that's the way that the shit would work. And so it's interesting that this would start fatiguing technology or start cracking the matrix open if they're stressed or fatigued in any way. It seems to be a big part of a lot of these weird phenomena that happen. And then you wonder if this happens with the LED lights now that are installed everywhere

and if it does need to be this sodium lamp that they talk about. Yeah, LEDs are pretty ubiquitous everywhere now. And you wonder if they're running on something different. You know, I don't know how to explain what I mean when I say that. But to say that energetically. Yeah, to see energetically that someone can affect one type of bulb, but also that could do with the chemical properties of how the bulb is created, manufacturers and functions because there's a gas in there that's being ignited.

So that would sort of make sense biologically that you'd interact with something. From a physics perspective, yeah. Perhaps, yeah. But this observation has led to one of the more speculative ideas surrounding this whole thing. The human nervous system operates through, electrical signals. So every thought and sensation and even movement is carried by a little tiny electrical impulses traveling along these neurons throughout the whole body. Under normal circumstances, these impulses remain entirely internal, kind of confined to the biological circuitry of the

nervous system. But some researchers have wondered whether in rare cases these electrical processes might interact with the surrounding environment in subtle ways. And I think that it's because of the whole morphic resonance field. I think that was that Sheldrache that did the morphic resonance thing. Yeah. How we have kind of an aura, for lack of a better word, about six feet around us, which is interesting in 2020, isn't it? Yes, that is the exact distance. They wanted you to stay away from one another so that you wouldn't interact with each other's biofield, which will tell you a lot of information, allegedly, about those, that individual and you will exchange information with them, if perceptive in tune to it and listening to it, how somebody is feeling.

Exactly. Emotions, how someone is feeling. I think your sixth sense perhaps is what's tied to that if you look into it. But the electromagnetic properties of the human body cannot be understated. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. We're one big electromagnetic machine. Yes, yes.

And, of course, this whole idea is a bit, I guess you could say controversial, but only in, you know, some circles, obviously not to any listeners. and the evidence is still pretty thin, but the question was taken seriously enough that there are these experiments that were conducted at the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Laboratory or known as the Peralab. For years, researchers there

explored whether human intention could influence electronic systems, especially things like random number generators used in computers. And there's plenty of stories out there about the effect of the human psyche or thought patterns on random number generators, and it is far beyond chance. It's pretty crazy stuff. Yeah, 9-11.

There was a big one that spiked then. In some tests, the participants appeared to produce small statistical deviations from pure randomness while focusing on the machines. The results were never really accepted as proof of anything paranormal, and the lab itself actually closed. But the research there did help keep alive this broader question about the relationship between consciousness and physical systems, especially electronic ones. And that's when you get into the ghost hunters that use the EVPs, I think it's called electronic voice phenomenon. And they can hear ghosts through the radio or whatever. Yeah. What do you think of that?

Have you ever done that? No. I have no interest in talking to ghosts. I don't even know what ghosts are. I mean, we've gone over plenty of the NDE stories and it's like, is it really a dead person or is it something else? I don't know. That's a great point. They're like, okay, well, you got to talk to them on the special phone and it's going to be through glass.

like you won't be able to see them. So what is this? Oh, we're going to prison. Oh, and I don't want to talk to that guy. I'm not interested in that. Oh, okay. Well, then never mind. Yeah.

So if the human body truly does generate these measurable electromagnetic effects, which they do, even on a very small scale, it isn't really that unreasonable to ask whether certain individuals might produce unusual fluctuations under particular circumstances. Whether those fluctuations could ever influence something as large as a street light is pretty uncertain, but the idea has been proposed often enough to remain part of this whole conversation. Perhaps the most intriguing aspect of the sly phenomenon, however, is not the theory, but the people who claim to experience it. Over the years, these investigators have collected reports from individuals who insist they affect far more than streetlights.

Some say digital clocks stop working when they're nearby. Others talk about how their watches mysteriously fail after only a few days of wear. And others describe computers freezing, televisions, household electronics behaving unpredictably. And one of the first researchers to take these claims seriously is the late paranormal investigator Hillary Evans. And instead of just tossing the stories out, you know, just ads, nonsense, she created something called the street lamp interference data exchange or slide.

A project that was intended to simply gather reports and compare them, kind of similar to forget his name now, but the guy that compile all the NDE report. It was more of just a data gathering attempt. Oh, I'm sorry. Hillary is a man? Wait a minute. I should have Googled that first. They them.

There, we'll call them they them. Dudes can be named Hillary, huh? I've never met one. Have you met a Hillary dude? No. A Hillary with a penis? Well, I mean, it's 2026. Oh, that's fair.

Yeah. Fair enough. But whether this phenomenon is real or misunderstood or just entirely coincidental is, you know, an unsolved mystery to this day, but the number of people describing these similar experiences have, or has ensured that the topic continues to surface in both paranormal and skeptical research discussion. The first account is from a woman named Jennifer Brown, whose experiences began with something simple enough, a single streetlight going out as she walked underneath it. And at the time, she thought very little of it, as you would. But when the same thing happened

over and over again, then it just, it kind of came, you know, difficult for her to just dismiss something, you know, the possibility of something unusual is going on. And her story isn't interesting because it proves anything. I mean, she admits it doesn't herself, but it's more because it just kind of captures a gradual way in which a lot of these people come to suspect something unusual might be happening. And her first reported account happened in 1988 when she was, she was still in her late teens and she's just one evening she's walking home along this path when the streetlight directly above her suddenly went out and at the time she barely gave it any thought streetlights do fail and her attention was quickly drawn to something else nearby a paving slab that felt loose

under her feet and her reasoning i mean seemed pretty you know sound maybe stepping on the slab it disturbed some wiring under the ground or you know just momentarily interrupting the connection but So with that explanation in mind, she just continued on her way, but the whole thing just lingered long enough for her to notice something odd. When other people walked beneath the same lamp, nothing happened. The light stayed on. And still, even that alone didn't mean that much. She eventually dismissed the incident and forgot about it entirely. A few days later, though, she happened to pass into the same street light again.

Once more, the light went out. And this time, the loose paving slab had already been repaired. So her earlier explanation no longer seemed quite so convincing. Damn, very specific. Yeah, it's funny that she was noticing all of these things too, but very observant, Mrs. Brown. Yeah, yeah. Well, you remember, right? You're like, wow, the street light went out and then the paver.

And so my mind needed something to connect to something practical. So I figured, oh, there's probably wiring running underneath the ground that I triggered by this loose paper just under there. Maybe that's why the paver's loose. And then it triggered that. So, okay. But then you go by, things fixed, and then it, they're like. light still does it. Right.

That's like a creepy, immediate return of questioning. Yeah. And obviously, like humans do, she started looking around for other possibilities for this weird thing. And she noticed a security camera that was kind of close to that whole, that streetlight. And she thought, maybe the guards monitoring the camera were able to switch the light off remotely, you know, in order to improve visibility on their screens or something. And it seemed like a sensible answer.

So again, she just kind of moved on from it. And the whole thing might have ended there if something similar hadn't happened again in the following year. By that point, Ms. Brown had moved to Germany as part of her college studies. And living abroad was pretty exciting, but it also came with certain loneliness. Like many students in unfamiliar surroundings, she often took long walks at night, partly to clear her mind and partly to escape the isolation of her small lodgings. One evening during one of these walks, she passed under her. past a section of the historic city wall that included a small tower. And as she walked beneath this nearby street lamp, the lamp suddenly switched off above her.

And the light came back on a few steps later. So the same things happened on the other side of the world. And once again, she noticed a security camera nearby. And once again, she assumed the explanation must be there. Maybe someone monitoring that area had simply flipped a switch or, you know, turn it off for a minute. But something interesting happened after that night. Over the months that followed, she walked beneath the same streetlight many times, and according to her account, it went out every single time she passed underneath it. And this reputation began to make her a little bit uneasy.

She started to wonder whether security personnel might actually be watching her specifically. Oh, who's this American? And switching the light off whenever she appeared. The idea sounds a little paranoid in hindsight, she admitted later. But at the time, it seemed more plausible than believing she herself had somehow caused the lights to fail. She definitely gets a gold medal for the mental gymnastics done to try and explain this thing away as natural or something boring. Right. Oh, my bad. She's not an American. She's from Scotland. So eventually she returns home to Scotland and it was there that the pattern just seemed to expand a bit. She began noticing other streetlights flickering or going dark as she walked underneath them. And at first, the events were sporadic enough that she could still ignore them. But over time, the number of incidents increased to the point where she felt she could no longer just dismiss them outright. What made the situation particularly frustrating for her was that there was no easy way to invest. investigate it. This is still the late 80s, early 90s-ish, and before search engines and online

forums made it easy to compare these unusual experiences with thousands of other people. And for a while, she just simply had to live with uncertainty. And then the internet arrived on the scene. And like many people encountering something strange, she eventually turned to the growing web of online information to see if anyone else had experienced similar events. And what she discovered surprised her that she was not alone. There were entire communities discussing the exact same phenomenon and the people involved had given them a name, the sliders. And as she's reading their accounts, she found that several of the patterns they were describing matched her own experiences almost perfectly. It's peak pollination season and my business is scaling fast.

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might unconsciously emit electrical impulses capable of interfering with nearby devices. Another observation was that these events often seem to occur when a person was under emotional strain, like we mentioned earlier, the stressed, anxious, or just deeply preoccupied state of mind. And looking back, she realized that this description fit many of her own encounters. She also began remembering smaller incidents she had previously dismissed. For instance, she recalled that her boyfriend had once been puzzled, by the way, his computer programs occasionally malfunction when she used them. Even something as simple as pressing the return key seemed to cause unexpected glitches in his code.

but still she never claimed certainty about what was happening. And years later she would write that the most honest explanation might still be the simplest one. It's coincidence combined with selective memory. And no one tends to remember the hundreds of streetlights that remain on as they walk beneath them. The mind naturally focuses on the unusual moments and builds this narrative around them. Right. So even with that, the experience has left an impression on her. And for a while, the incident seemed to fade.

the light stopped flickering as often and her life just moved on. But several years later, she had relocated to a new town and begun forming new friendships and the subject came up again during this night out. She mentioned her old streetlight experiences to one of her friends. And the friend just laughed and pointed towards the nearby lamp and she said, well, then switch that one off. So moments later, as they walked beneath it, the light went dark. Damn.

And Miss Brown herself admitted that moment was unsettling, not because it proved anything, but because it revived this question she had never quite resolved. Was it just coincidence or had she been noticing noticing something real all along? Yeah. Is it me? Is it me or is it just coinkie-dinks? Have you ever had that happen? Have you ever walked? The lights turning off? Not that I can remember because like you said, now I've walked under dozens. I'm sure that stayed trustfully lit as I needed them to. I would have noticed I feel if one wouldn't have like this young lady did and like most of us would. So yeah, write us in if you guys have any of these

stories about this if any electronics actually affecting affected when you're in proximity and you've noticed it because i have so many questions like what's the radius on this thing how close can she get and is it the same distance in front as it is as she's walking away like is there sort of comb to it or is it spherical or toroidal right does it go out further on the sides and it would from the top all these sort of things like i'm just very curious now about the stuff what all does it affect and yes is it a state of mind. And like you said in there, they already covered it pretty much, is that she can track emotional states back to the occurrences, which makes sense, a breakup, a family death, something like this, than your emotional state. But also her age is really interesting, this late teens

when it first occurred, that she noticed. Now, it may have even been occurring a little bit before that. I say this because it's interesting in, like the comics, let's say, for instance, superheroes usually don't get their superpowers until when? Nerd Joe? puberty? Yes. So you have this element of at least they're not infants running around with laser vision and shit like that

and the ability to turn off breast pumps and things like that just because they're young in the electromagnetic interference. So maybe it is sort of a superpower that they haven't figured out how to alchemizer tap into yet. This is the uncomfortable beginning bit of them

learning that it is you affecting this. Now perhaps learn how to alchemize it if there is such a way. Yeah. I mean that comes up with a lot of things not just paranormal abilities, but things like poltergeist or just psychic phenomenon in general seems to happen in a certain age period and then it fades.

Or even the ability to remember past lives is usually up to about what, age six or seven? Something like that. And so the inverse is true as well. You have sort of an ability until and then something else unlocks after puberty. And it's when you look at a movie like The Incredibles or something with the little kid, is that the one with the infant that's got the fire breath and laser vision and shit? he's a superhero, but he's an infant and he's a baby. It's an animated like a Pixar thing, came out a while ago.

Anyway, that concept, though, that's why it's funny in that movie. It's because in no other really, I don't think, comic environment, they usually point out that it's puberty. And thank God, man, you would want it to be a little bit later. Even Superman, I think, something like that, as Power started to come in a little bit earlier, but again, it's this idea of that transition from boy to man or girl to woman that has an effect on these types of things.

And like you said, there's a discard of this innate psychic ability that you take for granted, it seems, because it's just there. And then when it's gone, maybe it translates into something else, like freaking being able to turn streetlights off. Yeah, and as unstable as people going through puberty can be, it's better than having a baby with these abilities for sure. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you wouldn't want a superhero, like a little infant baby with super strength as you're trying to change its diaper or put it in a car seat or something like that. Well, we'll try to stay on topic here as one listener, Sam, who wrote in and said, we squirrel too much, but in a friendly way. Sam, I love you. So the next thing he points to Mr. Loth here is when electronics begin failing.

So once you get beyond the isolated kind of anecdotal stories like Jennifer Browns, this whole discussion around the streetlight interference starts to kind of zoom out a bit. researchers who collected accounts from people identifying as sliders begin noticing that many of them reported effects on far more than just streetlights. For some individuals, the lights were only the most visible example of a much larger pattern involving electronic devices of all kinds. One of the more widely reported cases involved a woman named Debbie Wolfe who lived in Telsocombe cliffs near Brighton, England.

A lot of weird shit goes on in England. Yeah, yeah. In 2012, her story appeared in a local newspaper. where she talked about a lifetime of unusual experiences with electrical equipment. And according to Wolf, the incidents began many years earlier and had gradually become a persistent part of her daily life. Streetlights were certainly one part of it. She claimed that lamps occasionally flickered or failed when she passed underneath them, but the effects seemed to extend well beyond that.

From digital clocks, for example, rarely lasted long in her home. She said she had repeatedly found them behaving erratically displaying incorrect times or resetting themselves without explanation. And obviously, those type of things can be easily tossed out unless you're looking at the broader pattern of all this stuff. Eventually, she just stopped using them entirely and switched to a wind-up alarm clock simply because it was more reliable. Other electrical items appeared to malfunction in similarly inconvenient ways.

Remote controls frequently drain their batteries at unusual speed, and on one occasion she returned her return home to find water pooling in her kitchen floor because her refrigerator, the freezer actually in her fridge, had just defrosted. She also recalled an incident which several street lamps failed as she rode past them on a motorbike. That's not safe. One of the crazier parts of her whole account was that she insisted she had no control over any of it. She said the events tended to occur most often when she was mentally preoccupied or under stress. Or when she was, you know, like chewing something over in her mind as she described it.

Not paying attention. It almost brings you back to the present moment. How interesting. The flow state. It's almost like everyone's in this kind of flow state where you're not really, you're kind of half subconscious and just kind of in your head, I guess. Which means out of the present moment, unless you're really focused on what you're doing. But it sounds like there it's more of a distracted while driving type of thing that brings you back.

And I don't know how you could do that on a bike, man. That's terrifying. Yeah. That would be inconvenient. Well, right. This sounds like a, this sounds honestly like a pain in the ass. Because yeah, you come home, your freezers. fucked off that pass on this, honestly.

Yeah. So, journalists obviously asked whether she could just demonstrate this whole thing under controlled conditions, and she tried. Different electronic devices were set up in a hospital where she worked, but nothing happened. The equipment just behaved perfectly normal. Her explanation was simple enough, the effect only seemed to appear when she wasn't consciously trying to produce it. And her story might sound unusual, but it's far from the only one of its kind. When investigators begin gathering reports, more systematically, they found that many people describing sly experiences also reported similar electrical disturbances in their everyday lives.

Some said light bulbs burned out unusually often. And again, I would think that would probably be regular. Is that halogen? Halogen molds. Yeah. Yeah. Get them if you can. Get them if you can.

I think they're actually, I don't know if they're banned, but they're not readily available in California, from what I can tell. Oh, yeah. Get those things. There's some interesting stuff going on with LEDs that you just probably don't want to part of, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. Others notice televisions changing volume on their own or electronic toys activating without being touched. Several individuals claim that watches simply stopped functioning when they wore them, a problem that forced them to stop wearing watches altogether.

Yeah. And one an ominous, a manamanama, an anonymous guy or girl or dude. Yeah. Recalled discovering a box containing more than 30 broken wrist watches belonging to a family member who had experienced the same issue for years. Another person explained that the women in his family all seemed unable to wear watches without causing them to fail prematurely. Interestingly, a jeweler who had encountered the problem before suggested an old-fashioned solution, placing a copper coin behind the watch case to absorb whatever electromagnetic effect might be causing the malfunction. That sounds like some 1800s' wives tale thing. Did it work? Whether that actually worked is another question.

Damn it. Some stories. What's that? What a pain in the ass this would be? You can't, like today, let's think of jobs they can't have anything in IT.

You can't do anything around computers because if you stroll into an office and shut everything down, then they're going to send you home. You can't have, like, workplace environment stress. You'd have to really watch it. It almost be like a Bruce banner of electronics.

Like, if you get upset, then you fuck everything up instead of turn into this rage monster, just nobody can get anything done or see. It's weird because then you're sitting here going, like, well, if that's the way they operate, you can't be a pilot because all that's based on electronics, because you can't shut the plane down as you're flying. You can't do, you can't be in a hospital. You can't be a

nurse or a doctor or something like that because a lot of that stuff is also, you need the light to work as you're doing surgery. That's the funny thing is that that lady did work in a hospital. That's the thing. It's like how did it, did it set off other stuff? Like did she kill patients, like turn off one of those heart machines or something, the life machine. What do they call that? Oh, the, uh, it's beeping for you. Yeah. C-paps and shit. You know, what I'm talking about. Did that thing fail when she was around it? So they're like, shit, Debbie, get out of here. You know, you're killing people.

Lights going off around her. I mean, that's in it because you would think workplace stress, especially being in a hospital, there would be some of that. And that may affect things there. Yeah. And why don't you hear about it more often? Why is it always street lights and like watches and everyday things? Like it seems like it would affect so much more if it was, if that's the case. Especially nowadays. But that's what I mean. Is like, do we have modern examples of this to where they really just can't go anywhere. They have to live in like a fair day cage, almost like a bubble boy, but wrap some, like tape them up with copper so they can't screw anything up. Yeah, and it kind of

goes along with the people that say they're allergic or have some kind of reaction to EMF, which I am starting to believe is way truer than the movies make it out. One that comes to mind is Better Call Saul. Great show, by the way. But one of the guys in there, the lawyer, he's terribly allergic to Wi-Fi to the point where he like coats his entire, the entire inside of his house with foil and he, he won't go outside. And then they basically prove that he was full of shit later because he thinks that any cell phone or anything, you know, will cause him to have this reaction. So one time they're in the courtroom and, yeah, the guy's got a cell phone in his jacket the whole time. And he's like, oh, are you feeling good right now? He's like, well, yes, it's because we had all

cell phones removed from the courthouse. And he's like, oh, yeah, and he pulls it out. And then he's like, oh, man, I feel terrible. Yeah. Ta-da, motherfucker. Yeah, so is it some psychosomatic type of thing? And that's the question, too. Yeah. Are they a little too bright in your mind? And you're like, man, I wish that would go out.

And you're super powerful when you could just do that. But it doesn't seem like they're trying to. It's always when they're in some either stress or anxious or just, you know, otherwise preoccupied mentally is when it seems to happen on accident. And that's the question. Is it a present moment attenuator? I call my dog this because if I'm on my phone, she bugs me, drops a ball at my foot constantly. If I'm reading a book, lays down next. to me and relaxes. I'm dead serious about that. She knows when I'm on my phone or being distracted

or something and she'll bring me back to the present moment. I'm very mindful of this. Oh yeah. My cats do that too. They'll try to crawl on my lap and rub on my phone and I'm like, hey, let me alone. Exactly. Yes. And to them, maybe they're like, no, no, no, you got to come back to the present moment. You faded too far. It's a very interesting thing and this may be one of those occurrences. I need my butt scratch. Get off your phone. Yeah. Some of these stories move into even stranger territory, one woman identified only as Sarah described undergoing laser treatment on her neck during a series of medical appointments on six separate occasions, the machine being used for the treatment malfunctioned during her session. She eventually began wondering whether she herself might somehow be interfering with it. Concerned enough to investigate, she arranged to have measurements taken of the electrical output from her body.

And the results, according to her account, suggested she generated somewhat higher electrical readings than average, though still well within the range produced by ordinary human physiology. Man, I wonder if... But maybe it's enough to affect something. Yes. And I wonder if these folks get picked up by UFOs or if they just kind of pass them by. They know there's some sort of heat signature on them, and they're like, mm-mm. Last one we picked up crashed in them. You know, that's what's responsible for the Roswell crashes.

They picked up one of these people, and they got stressed out and shut the craft down and it crashed. They picked up a slider. Oops. Oh, shit. Another guy, using just the name James, reported a long history of electronics behaving unpredictably around him. Television sets would occasionally malfunction when he entered the room. Car engines sometimes stalled unexpectedly. Street lights, again, seemed more likely to flicker or go out when he was nearby.

And like many of these other cases, James noticed that the incidents often coincided with intense emotional states. again, when he felt angry or anxious or just deeply upset, the electrical disturbances seem to become more frequent. So it does make you think it's some kind of sciability where almost like the, is it the umbrella academy or something when, you know, you get this intense emotion and all of a sudden, you know, light bulbs go out or windows shatter, you know. Magneto. He had to find that balance between anger and serenity, right?

And that's where his power was harnessed in that moment. So maybe it is one of these things. because again, it sounds like the extremes of distraction is really what it is. Because if you're thinking about it, anxiety is thinking about the future depression is thinking about the past. So if you're in those emotional states, you're in either one of those two scenarios, you're not in the present moment. And again, if you're distracted in the subconscious autopilot sort of emotion thinking about other things than what you're doing, it'll bring you back into the moment as well, just on the other side of the coin. Very interesting.

It's kind of a cosmic tap on the shoulder. It is. It's a cosmic dog dropping a ball at your feet saying, hey, come. back to us, buddy. And of course, there's others who offered similar observations. A woman known only as blonde, a bit misogynistic there, said that light bulbs sometimes burned out when she walked past them while she was in pain or emotional distress. Another person using the name collada, last name Pena, described learning over time how to ground herself mentally in order to reduce the number of bulbs she burned out in her home.

So by consciously calming her emotion, she believed that she had reduced the, the frequency of the incidents. Wow. So she was aware of it. Yeah, and I wonder if you just switch to candles at a certain point. She's like, fuck this, we're going Amish. Oh, that's the guy in Better Call Saul. He, like, used candles because even the light bulbs, he said, affected him.

There you go. But that's kind of the inverse electronics affecting you, not the other way around. Right, right. And maybe the most dramatic account came from this other dude named Josh, who claimed that nearly every electronic device he owned eventually failed, from headphones to printers, laptops, cell phones, all of them seemed to develop problems after relatively short periods of use. One phone, he recalled, begins sending the last 20 text messages he had written all at once whenever it was plugged in to charge. He probably just had a Nokia or something.

Yeah. Well, that sucks because then they think you're a stage four clinger. They're like, dude, what the hell with this guy? Of course, none of these stories provide scientific proof that people can influence electronic devices. obvious examples, you know, or skeptical arguments are faulty hardware, manufacturing, manufacturing defects, environmental interference, or just simply coincidence could easily account for many of them. But the sheer variety of reports raises an interesting question. Why do so many individuals independently describe the same kinds of electrical anomalies? Some people believe the explanation might lie in subtle electromagnetic interactions between the human body and nearby electronics.

Others suggest that the phenomenon might be psychological, a case of maybe selective attention and memory reinforcing the perception of a pattern that isn't actually there. And then there are those who suspect something much stranger, because once you begin looking closely at these accounts, you occasionally encounter another detail that seems to appear in the background of several of them. A number of people who report unusual electrical disturbances also claimed to have experienced a UFO encounters, and alien abductions. I was going to hold that back.

Okay, thank you for doing so. What a nice sandbag. I appreciate that. But man, that's the question is do they, and is that the reason that they cut stuff out? Because now I'd like to know if any of their reports are pre when they started noticing this phenomena within them. I guess if you'd go back through all the encounters, you could find both. Okay. Like noticing it before and after. And maybe it was the reason they got picked up again, because if they're capable of it, perhaps there's a beacon sent out. or there's it's sort of like an o meter that can be ran over the ground or something and they're like oh shit we got a hotspot and that's a human that's emitting just some interesting amount of electromagnetic activity because then you wonder if they affect the moods of other folks around them when they do get into other people's biofields do they then cause somebody's i guess pacemaker to go out or do they cause discomfort or relief in others you know would they be good at rakey or something like this and are they able to move energy around well according to some research these malfunctioning electronics are often one of the earliest signs reported by these individuals who later come to believe they were involved in such experiences. So as these reports around these sliders accumulate, there's a curious overlap between individuals who claim to experience persistent electrical disturbances and also reporting encounters that fall into other categories. This doesn't mean the phenomenon are connected, of course, but the pattern has been noted often enough

that some researchers have begun to consider whether there might be a common thread. One place's overlap occurs is in the accounts of people who believe they have experienced alien abduction. So within UFO research circles, one of the frequently mentioned early indicators of an encounter involves electrical irregularities. Lean in.

Just trying to talk him like a Texan there. Lean in. Witnesses sometimes report watches that suddenly stop working, like usual. The mobile phones that die, electronic devices begin malfunctioning by all this normal stuff. Normal stuff, yeah. Yeah, just normal. High electricity bills, unexplained buzzing sounds, and equipment switching itself on or off are also mentioned. One example described in the article involves a man named Bob Rylance, who later came to believe he had been abducted by extraterrestrials on several occasions.

And long before he reached that conclusion, though, he had already been experiencing a series of unsettling electrical disturbances. So as a child, Mr. Bob here, he recalled, we're waking frequently during the night with a strong sense of fear, sometimes accompanied by the sensation that someone or something was watching him. At other times, he heard footsteps moving through the hallway outside his room, but when he went to go check, no one was there. His mother later claimed she had experienced similar events when she was younger. and here we go with the genetic or family lineage UFO thing.

Was she able to turn off lights and shit? I don't think so. She doesn't mention that. Okay. But these strange things continued into adulthood for Mr. Bob. Members of his family occasionally reported seeing figures

in their bedrooms during the night while electrical devices in the home would sometimes switch themselves on unexpectedly or stop working altogether one particularly puzzling incident occurred when Bob discovered his electric razor sitting downstairs in the kitchen plugged into a wall socket. The night before he had used it in his bedroom and returned it to its usual place afterward. So, and that's like an Oopart type of thing too.

Yes. See how some of, all these things are just connected in weird ways. And no history of sleepwalking or anything like that. We can rule out that he just got up and plugged it in. Yeah. And a lot of these stories are common in UFO literature, but they're also kind of in the poltergeisty field too. And this is what I was talking about. Imagine being your own poltergeist, where whenever you walk over to a radio, it changes frequencies or turns on or turns off. And you're like, oh, and you run away from it and it just stops. And then you get close to it and it's like, but. So obviously, poltergeist cases usually involved, or often involved at least, disturbances in the physical environment.

You know, like objects moving, unexplained sounds, all the normal poltergeisty stuff. Especially lights flickering, malfunctioning appliances, you know, all these same type of thing. only they're calling it poltergeist in some cases. And especially if we're surrounded like we're now with all the electronics, so you think you're going absolutely fucking mad or being absolutely fucking haunted by something crazy. Yeah, and it's just you this whole time. It's you, yeah, you're your own worst enemy haunting yourself. And again, so the poltergeist thing, a lot of people attribute to energy release from a human participant,

particularly during periods of emotional stress. Again, it's all coming back to the human. What's weird, too, that feels like they're drawing the energy to them. they're sucking in power. Because if they drain batteries out of remote controls, if their electricity bills are higher, it seems then from the meters perspective that they're consuming more energy than they really are. So it's almost like there's a draw on it. And I'm sure that you wouldn't have figured this out, I don't know, how they would have,

before electricity became so prevalent. Maybe there's these types of folks who are running around all over the place getting burned as witches. Because they give you a tingle in your belt hole or something like that when they get close. But yeah, it's very interesting. And did this come about due to EMF? Yeah, wouldn't that be cool, though, if you could just recharge yourself with a battery, you just took a 9-volt in a slot in your arm, and you're like, boom, I'm ready to go. Let's go clean the house. Yeah, yeah, I think that's what sleep is supposed to be. I think so, yeah.

Interestingly, the idea echoes one of the theories proposed to explain the slider thing. In both cases, the phenomenon appears to cluster around individuals experiencing strong emotional states. Some researchers have suggested that if the human nervous system produces measurable EMF, extreme emotional states might amplify those effects in ways that interact with nearby electronics. Other investigators kind of approach the question from an entirely different direction. Some paranormal researchers believe entities themselves, the spirits or other non-physical, what is it, NHI, non-human intelligence? Non-human intelligences.

May manipulate electrical systems as a means of interacting with. with the physical world. Sure. So in that perspective, electrical devices kind of become a convenient interface between the two realms. So the lights flickering, radios activating, batteries draining, they might represent attempts by non-physical entities to manifest or communicate. Yeah, because energy is neither created nor destroyed, right?

So where's all that going? What's happening there with that exchange of energy? If batteries are draining faster, like, are you just shocking everybody you come across, or your hair stand up on end every now and then? Yeah. go zapped every doorbell, door knob that you touch, you know? I know. You can't have cats.

One of the researchers that everyone should be familiar with is Rosemary Ellen Giley, who spent years studying reports involving shadowy humanoid figures, sometimes referred to as shadow people. And according to Rosemary, many individuals who encounter these figures report that switching on lights or activating electrical devices appears to disrupt the entity's ability to remain visible. So she suggested that electricity might, interfere with whatever mechanism allows such beings to appear in our environment.

Whether that holds any truth is difficult to say, still the idea highlights the recurring role electricity seems to play across this wide variety of paranormal claims. The connections become even more intriguing when the discussion turns toward UFO sightings themselves. For decades, witnesses have reported that UFOs or UAPs sometimes interfere with electrical systems in their vicinity, and we've just covered a bunch of things. these, the drivers that they're, you know, the car engine installing as the luminous objects pass overhead. That's right. It behaves the same as what these folks can do.

Right. Pilots reporting temporary failures in their nav equipment when there's a craft at close range. Of course, there's the foo fighters during the World War II, you know, fucking with the instruments on their, on their planes. Yeah, cars just stopping on highways when they fly by, like the cases in Texas that we talked about, that happened to several folks in Denison there. Right. Yep. Wow. And then I'm thinking of the foil too, the fool, that the lady talked about in that account, again, and the same thing with UFOs when she was younger, and she remembered back to an account where the aliens were pissed off because her mom put the fool over the windows for the heat. And so almost like it disrupted something electromagnetically with them. Maybe they're entering and having access or their ability to sort of scan over and see. Right, which makes it sound like a lot of these supposed abductions or even just contacts with. aliens or anything else is some energetic thing. It's not a physical thing. But it is kind of

physical because it's still energy, you know, so it's like half and half. It's plasma almost. Like the Gremlin and Gremlin's too that was electricity. He was like, you just say in two words and putting them together. Electricity Grimman. That's great. And so he was like, he could go through the wires and everything and then pop back out. And I know there's superheroes that have emulated this as well. Then you've got one of the heroes or the villains from Spider-Man did this where he could travel through the lines of electricity and then appear and then go away. And you say that stuff with ball lightning and all these interesting phenomena of visual phenomena, is it one of these?

Is it something that's interacting like that? Yeah. Very interesting, man. One of the most dramatic examples of this weird UFO electrical connection is the famous 1965 blackout on the East Coast. It was the evening of November 9th. My birthday, thank you. Hey.

Large portions of the northeastern United States and. and parts of southern Canada just suddenly lost power. New York City was among the areas plunged into darkness. At first, investigators believed the failure might have originated from a power line near Niagara Falls, but the precise chain of events that triggered this massive outage proved pretty difficult to reconstruct. And what caught the attention of UFO researchers were the witness reports that began to come out after the whole thing. Several individuals claimed that they had seen unusual lights or objects in the sky near power infrastructure shortly before the blackout occurred. and that kind of reminds you of the shutting down the nuclear sites.

Yes, I was just thinking that. I was going to hold up air quotes when I said nukes, but yes. Yeah. One pilot, or it was a private pilot, reported, seeing a strange fireball-like object hovering near transmission lines moments before the power failure. Others described luminous spherical objects moving through the sky immediately before or after the event. And none of these accounts provide definitive proof that the two events were related. and obviously mainstream investigations attributed the blackout to cascading failures within the grid.

But still the coincidence was intriguing enough that it was later discussed during a 1968 symposium on UFOs held for the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Science and Astronautics. Fancy. During that meeting, atmospheric physicist Dr. James E. McDonald noted that multiple UFO sightings had been reported near power facilities, something in conjunction with electrical outages. And while he did stop short of claim, a direct causal connection, he did suggest the possibility, you know, deserve further investigation at least. And events like this 1965 blackout show that the broader question that arises whenever electrical

disturbances appear alongside unidentified aerial phenomenon. So are these just coincidences or witnesses misinterpreting ordinary equipment failure? Or is this kind of, you know, advanced technology or is this kind of, you know, is this capable of interacting with power systems in the way in ways we just don't understand yet. And I would probably lean towards something like that. Something like that. Or did they have one of these folks on that they keep in a stressed out state so that whenever they are flying over in their UFO that's not affected by this because their technology

just isn't, then they can shut the power off for them. Maybe they pick up one of these folks. Again, stress them out. They hang them upside down. They shake them a bunch. And then they fly over one of these nuclear facilities. And that's what shuts it down. It might not be the UFO at all.

They just know that they can grab you, put you in a job. put you in a jar like a, I think all those things that fly around, glowworms fly. Firefly? Firefly, thank you, Jesus. Why was that? What did they call those bright things that fly? The fly and they glow, they look like they're on fire.

Fireflies in a jar to use it as a headlamp. It's like you're using something organic from the place that you're in to have a tool or a function and serve a function. Just harnessing the power like the matrix. It's turning into a D-cell. Exactly. Like the predator, which we're going to talk about, the cloaking technology, perhaps, in the extension here, look on Predator Badlands.

Have you seen that movie yet? I have not. Is that new? I'm not going to spoil it for you, but he ends up using a bunch of stuff around the planet to use it as weapons and to just utilize what he has around him like a predatory McGiver and make shit happen, man. But in the same way, maybe they know that some of these folks, if you, look, if you strapped to that thing right there, scare the shit out of it, you can fly over this stuff and no one could take pictures of us, no one could see us, the camera shut down. It's great.

It's like an organic cloaking device. Exactly. Yeah. So we have one last little case here before we close out here for the free section. So once this whole discussion kind of zooms out from the individual experiences to these larger witness phenomenon that happened like the blackouts, the scale of the mystery changes pretty considerably. Instead of a single streetlight flickering above someone's head, its entire community's suddenly. losing power, sometimes at the same time that these unusual aerial objects are reported. One case that often appears in the UFO lore, occurred in the Romanian village of Nannesti during

the summer of 2001. It was on the evening of June 30th at around 10.30 p.m., a motorist passing through the area noticed a strange glowing light in the sky above the village. And at roughly the same moment, the electricity throughout the whole town abruptly failed, just plunging the homes and streets into complete darkness. Power outages were not entirely uncommon in that region, so at first the villagers simply waited for the electricity to return as it usually did, but this outage was a bit different.

The minutes passed and the lights did not come back on. Curious residents began stepping outside their homes to see what might be happening. As they looked toward the sky, many of them noticed the same unusual object the motorist had described. They later reported seeing this red circular shape hovering silently above the village. Again, silently, these things are always so quiet. They're quiet, yeah. They're just so respectful, you know. Or do you think that they're emitting a sound outside of our hearing range? Now, that very well could be. Maybe that's why animals go out sometimes. Yes, exactly. They hear it. Right.

Some described it as a glowing sphere. Others said it appeared more like a ring that expanded and contracted as it moved. The object reportedly descended toward the ground before rising again, repeating the motion several times while slowly rotating. estimates suggest that dozens of people in the village observed the object that night. Meanwhile, the power remained out. Investigators later spoke with staff at nearby power plants to determine whether a technical malfunction had occurred. And according to the available information, both facilities appeared to be operating normally during the outage. One damage transformer was eventually discovered, but technicians noted that a single component failure should not have caused a blackout affecting the entire area for several hours. And then just as suddenly as the outage had been.

begun, the electricity returned. By that time, the strange object had also disappeared from the sky. So events like this raise pretty obvious questions, but they rarely produce clear answers, because it's still, even though there's plenty of witnesses, it's still kind of anecdotal, you know? It is, and now I'm wondering if that's what the sort of screen memories or missing time or anything like that is. It's just their ability to affect electromagnetics, whatever that is. It's a being, if it's a craft, technology, whatever.

that really it dicks with your ability to store and record information, that part of you electromechanically that can do that electromagnically that does that, and your motor function in the case of paralysis. You have all of these things that are explained now that we look at the body through the lens of it being an electromagnetic biochemical machine here. Yeah. Very wild, man. And the Nenesti case was far from the only one.

There is one in Rome in 1958, the same type of thing, mysterious luminous object shortly before the city experienced a sudden power outage. Another event in Salta, Argentina, yes, less than a year later, so 1959-ish. Both cases, observers saw glowing objects and then the whole power went out. Another one in 1959 in Uberlandia, Brazil. The exact same thing. Witnesses reporting a round object flying over the transmission lines, and according to their accounts, the facility's automatic switches suddenly shut down, while the object hovered overhead.

And once it departed, the switch has returned to their normal positions and the power resumed. So weird. So they physically moved. So like it physically turned the switch off. Yeah. Almost like a poltergeist. Yeah. It seems like there is some connection.

But trying to find that is where the debate lies, I guess. It's in the electromagnetic connection. I feel it now. That's got to be what gravity is. You know, again, the more we shed the ideas of the old that keep. you bound to a system that locks you into those rules that therefore it can't be or you can't consider other things because they don't jive it's not inert in that then now it's expansive now you can look at it completely differently now it's more of an attractive like a again magnetic or electric

or a repulsion or a charging or a manipulation of aetheric body that really runs you your whole nervous system is electric and so that what could be this etheric body you're talking about but a physical representation of it almost like a interface right for our audio to go out it takes from a digital from an analog medium are physical voices into a digital medium but there's a conversion that needs to occur for that to occur in the same way perhaps your a theoretic body needs to interface with a physical reality and it does so through that thing called your nervous system which perhaps we know very little about oh yeah we definitely know way less about it than scientists will you know claim to know about it i guess right sure everything mapped out the

science is settled you know this can't happen right yeah obviously for now at least the the whole slider thing is somewhere between anecdote and just explanations from witnesses, but it might ultimately prove to be a combination of coincidence, aging infrastructure, and the human tendency to notice unusual events more than ordinary ones. And I, like most of these topics, I think it usually is a combination of things. I really try to stay away from going, it's this one thing. and because then you're missing out like we say so many times with the UFO thing especially is if you're only looking at nuts and bullets you're missing this whole other aspect of it and you have to kind of bring both in and that's where alchemy in the olden days differed from hard science versus spirituality now they kind of combined the two back in the day and they were looking at both ends the weird paranormal spiritual aspects and the physical 3D thing and kind of alchemizing them for lack of a better word because they're so interwoven you can't have one physical experience without the spiritual

component powering it the spirit you know the animating force that's powering all of this shit it's when you look at it from certain perspectives if the models are correct that we're talking about here but again it's just really interesting to consider now all these new elements to it because i haven't really because it's again one of those things we looked at the street lamp phenomena while back and you're just like oh that's weird but now to consider it and again to talk with you about it now it just makes me think completely differently about it. I'm now connecting it to the electromagnetic body. And then now, again, it's sort of explaining a few other could add a new element of

explanation to connect some of the other phenomena that we've heard about. Yeah. And I just love the whole... The slider thing is interesting because that was one angle of what could just be, like you said, this whole interconnected tapestry of all these other things. Right. It's one maybe symptom of this whole experience. and that's just the thing people noticed. But then again, you have the people who were the sliders that then realized that they were UFO participants

or vice versa. They have weird electrical stuff after a UFO abduction or after a head injury. You can speak Spanish. You know, just like we don't know what the hell's going on. Yeah, it changed the channel on you almost. It's like it kicks you in the head. Now that internal switch, whatever that means.

You know, that wire just goes blip and switches to the other side. Now your whole thing is functioning on a completely different program. I'm kicked in the head by a donkey and now I have a Chinese accent, right? And you think that's a real story. I'm not being racist. That's true. It's so good. I've said to that to you, I think, every now and then.

But yes. And then if you think about this, then from that perspective, the implants perhaps that folks are, now I would be curious about so many things about these people. My study would include what their signs are, absolutely the astrology of them, as well as implants, if they feel that they've gotten anything like that. because, again, could that be causing it? Could it be charging it? Could they be wireless power stations? Think about that. If they're drawing power, if your power company says,

look, you owe it this much money, but you didn't use that much power. Where is it going? Are you some sort of black hole or is there a device in you that can wirelessly transmit power to something else after they implant it in you? Because you are an exceptional battery, right? And we have wireless shit. You can drop your phone on. You've got one.

You drop your phone on it. It charges without needing to be physically plugged into it. So who's to say that you're any different or could not be, I guess, wired to be different? I can't remember. I just saw an article the other day and it's so hard to tell these days, whether it's AI slop or whether it's embellished or whatever. But there's some country. It could have been China. Could have been Japan. I don't know why I'm going with Asian countries, but they seem more on top of this type of tech. But that was testing out using basically Tesla technology, sending power wirelessly. maybe it was Sweden? I don't know.

I'd have to look it up and see if it was actually true or not, but I wouldn't be surprised. Sweden's same folks that tossed chips in their employees' hands at that company, right? Is that where they did it? The Netherlands somewhere somewhere. Yeah, it was either there, Denmark or somewhere around there. Maybe they go hand in hand, pun intended. Maybe you put this thing in your hand,

and then the wireless technology can facilitate all kinds of stuff. Maybe it's good at first, but maybe, you know, people beaming you information and thoughts and feelings in emotional states and regulated emotional states, all that kind of stuff. Do you want that, you know? Yeah. Can it be hacked at that point? All we do know is that it's a mysterious universe out there.

Oh, he said the name of the movie and the movie. Oh, he did it, did. Well, thanks everybody for joining us this week. And if you're on Plus, stick around for the cool stuff Brandon has coming up after the break. Yep. We're doing translucent humanoid beings by Dirk Gillibrell, all 2024 joint here, and it's going to bang, because we're going to talk about these weird invisible stuff.

I'm going to connect it to a couple of other creatures in nature who possess some remarkable camouflageability. And then we're going to scale this to say, maybe, you know, maybe there's some stuff out here that can do this. And maybe not necessarily a technology. I'm not just thinking about it. And perhaps then if it is nature, just like anything else, it could be adapted in a technology adapted because of it.

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