Mysterious Universe - 35.21 - MU Podcast - The Golden Wave

Episode Date: May 29, 2026

Welcome back to MU! This week we look into Children of the New Earth by Jill M. Jackson, a wild blend of Starseed mythology, psychic children, spiritual evolution, and humanity’s technological cross...roads. From Indigo children to the "Solar Rays", we go through the variety of children appearing with the apparent mission of healing the earth and ushering us into the next age of human ascension! Buckle up for this one, it's a wild ride! Did you know that there are shapeshifters and mighty morphers are all around you? Offering oodles of fun questions like, what defines the definition of something? Is it the way it appears? What if looks are not what they seem and the thing you are looking at, so certain of its form, is not that at all, but an imposter out to bewilder the bewilderable? From mimic jellyfish to giant flying jellyfish, who’s to say what anyone is really seeing?    Children of the New Earth: How Starseeds Are Shaping Humanity’s Future Dr. Edith Ubuntu Chan | Human Possibilities Article - Some shape‑shifting animals that can morph to fool others Video - The Amazing Paradise Flying Snake | Wildest Islands Of Indonesia Article - The Pentagon Just Released Even More Weird Videos And Reports From The UFO Files. See Them Here Video - Ancient Aliens: Shape Shifting Object Spotted by Alaskan Pilot Article - The Vikings Used Sunstone For Navigation LinksPlus+ ExtensionThe extension of the show is EXCLUSIVE to Plus+ Members. To join. click HERE.Links Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 Today on the show, we have a new age absurdity, a whole new age cosmology with psychic ray children from other dimensions. I'm Joe Hodgden and joining me as always is Brandon. Thomas, how's it going on, buddy? It's going well, bud. How about yourself? Good. Got back from our semi-annual coast trip for the old anniversary. It was a big one this year, the number 10.
Starting point is 00:01:15 That's right. Congratulations, man. So spent some time frolicing about in the redwoods and on the beach and, you know, eating some crazy, food from local places. It was fun. It was great to get away. But as I always say, we got back and that was the real relaxing is when you get back home. It's like, oh, finally, I can put my kitties. Right. You can hang out with the animals. They're pumped to see it. You had some time to miss your place, you know? Well, the inside cats don't give two shits about us, but the outside cat was super happy to see us. And the dog, of course, was losing her shit. Yes, yes, for them. And what is
Starting point is 00:01:48 that? Time doesn't go by the same for them. I always feel bad about that. So, like, you walk out of a room you turn around they don't know that you haven't been gone for a thousand years right yeah so when you're gone for four days it could be a millennia for them yeah right yeah psychologically that's odd the poor things but they uh she gets uh our dog especially gets real separation anxiety so we get back and her little uh couch bed that we bought for her was uh half eaten because she gets nervous yeah right all stress chewing like well that's the last bed i'm buying for you so here we go Yeah, this book we're covering today is pretty new. It's from 2025 by Jill Jackson.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's called Children of the New Earth. And it's, as soon as I started flipping through it, I'm like, oh, man, this is classic MU, like early MU type stuff. And people who have been, you know, plus subscribers or listeners for a long time are going to, they're going to hear what I mean by that. She's a psychic medium, okay. Check. And she starts out with, it started in 24. actually and she calls it a prophecy and uh so obviously if you're listening to this show you know where we're kind of go with this uh you know downloads and whatnot yes and also thank you to your
Starting point is 00:03:05 pr jill your PR lady for sending me this book it really it was a shelf elf moment again i uh had segment ready and then realized we had probably already covered those stories so worked out really well that you got this book over to me so quick because i was able to create the segment i have for you today. Divine timing. Well done, everyone. Yes. And she, so this, this prophecy or this download that she received. She's not, you know, presenting it like this, uh, a dry social theory or some parenting trend with charts and academic footnotes and all that. That would be ridiculous and boring, obviously. She's coming at it, you know, as a psychic medium, a channel and somebody who believes she was given a spiritual assignment to explain a new kind of child, supposedly incarnating
Starting point is 00:03:50 on earth right now. And like I said, it starts in 2014. She was in Naples, Florida at this metaphysical shop called Altered Elements, which I would love to visit. I can smell it just by the title. Yeah. Yeah. It's Nagchamba and Petuli, Horde. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And you can smell the beads. You can smell the beads. You can't. We have a shop like that out here. It's great. Sure. And the owner, Lucy, here, is leading this group meditation type of thing. It's a sound bath with crystal bowls, you know, the Tibetan singing bowls and all that meditation.
Starting point is 00:04:22 and Jill's just there as a participant, not as a teacher, not as the, you know, the psychic medium on duty or trying to receive messages or anything. She said she was basically off the clock. This is supposed to be her little self-care night, her chance to relax and soak in the vibes and breathe in the incense and just recharge all the crystals and everything. And, you know, just basically not have some entity ringing her doorbell for once. But, you know, naturally, according to her, that's exactly when spirit rings the damn doorbell. So during the sound bath, while she's deep in this meditation, she says a collective consciousness calling itself the Emerald Group introduces itself and starts transmitting instructions. And she's pretty funny about it because her first reaction isn't like, oh, yes, beloved beings of light I accept. It was more like she was like, are you shitting me tonight?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Like of all nights, really? Come on. I'm charging crystals. I got the new Lego Batman Batmobile in. I'm going to pick that thing together by myself. I've made time for it. I wrote in my journal that I was going to do that today and then you did get show up. She's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:22 The Emerald. What is this? Another one, not the council or the federation or galactic or anything. It sounds a lot like that, but specifically the Emerald Group. So we'll take it at face value, right? Yeah, sure. Bring it. She says if she hadn't been so deep in meditation, she probably would have just thrown a tantrum because she, you know, she's like, I'm already doing my spiritual work.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I'm teaching workshops, doing mediumship readings, doing all these, you know, psychic medium things that they get around doing. And, you know, she was basically fulfilling what she believed were her. soul contracts. And now this group comes in and basically says, awesome, but we've got another assignment for you. So the message she receives is that a brand new breed of children is coming in to help Earth, specifically the Golden Ray children who begin incarnating around 2015. And these kids, according to the transmission, have never had Earth lifetimes before. They don't have any karma from this planet, but they're also not new souls in like the childish sense. They're described as extremely old souls whose wisdom comes from lifetimes on other planets or other realms, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Their big job is to help anchor unity consciousness on Earth. And her immediate response is pretty understandable. She starts kind of arguing with it because she never had any biological children of her own. She actually had five miscarriages. And so she was still pretty, you know, tangled up in that wound. This is so interesting. I'm going to be linking Dr. Edith and Butu Chan's work as well. She has the eliminated
Starting point is 00:06:55 Eliminated Education Revolution. And same thing. She's the one, you've probably seen her in Gramerica. She's the one having kids read blind, like with blindfolds on and they're showing colored cards and things like this. She's awesome. Does this kind of work? Same thing. She had a child of hers that was, visit her in dreams
Starting point is 00:07:12 and tell her this exact message. And now she's part of this huge collective. And then her kids actually are psychics that came through. And she was told that this was going to happen. Interesting. It's wild, dude. Yeah, so she's, you know, still kind of, I mean, one miscarriage is enough to kind of mess you up,
Starting point is 00:07:29 but five, like, geez, poor lady. So, yeah, when this group tells her she's supposed to write a book about gifted children and help parents understand them, she's like, yeah, you got the wrong lady. And she gets this answer that she says she receives is that she chose not to have biological children because she was meant to be a mother to many, kind of like a surrogate, spiritual. mother, you know, helping parents awaken while teaching them how to support these unusual kids. Yeah. It is interesting timing with the telepathy tapes and the autism rates and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:00 That's what I'm saying is it's all sort of happening like this, which is odd. Yeah. That's why it's an interesting read for sure, whether you, you know, want to totally absorb all the indigo children things because we're going there. Oh, yes. I knew we were. I didn't even need to ask, buddy. And we're doing morphing UFOs in the extension.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Oh, yes. Check the links in the blow. forgot about that, yes. No worries. Go ahead. No, but before we get to the indigo children, crystal children, rainbow children, diamond and golden children, and the last one, solar children, she's kind of, she roots this whole project in this moment of being called in 2014. And, you know, whether you take that literally or symbolically or with huge grains of
Starting point is 00:08:43 salt like we usually do, this is kind of the core of the book, is this initial transmission she received. So they're coming in with a core message of unity, yet there are how many different types of children that are categorized separated out by color have distinguishable? 13. Okay. So unity, but in these 13 parts. Yeah, because I'll get into each of the rays, as she calls them, but they're over the last several hundred years, at least the one she focuses on. Got you.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But she kind of brings it to this idea that humanity is at a turner. point and I don't disagree with her. There's some weird things happening. There's too many weird things happening that we're not in some kind of, you know, pivotal point of radical change and even spiritual upheaval and obviously technology, AI. She even gets into that and just social breakdown in general. It's a, you know, this little cocktail we're living through. It's really fun. Sure. Yeah. It's a little instigator of change concoction we got going here. Yeah. And according to Jill, the souls incarnating during these different eras aren't random. They come in waves. So each wave carries a certain kind of frequency or ray. And each ray brings in a different type of medicine
Starting point is 00:09:59 for humanity. And she even goes into, you know, some of the older esoteric ideas about the seven rays, which pop up in Theosophy, you know, Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Ernest Wood, those type of people. And from the mundane, that was all the different major planets had that. They were representative of color spectrums and the seven, yeah, seven heavens is very important. Again, the synchronistic timing of getting sent this book. It's great. Amazing. Yeah, it's kind of the older teaching is that creation expresses itself through different rays or divine impulses each with its own qualities.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And she accepts that, but says her own channeling expands it beyond seven. In her version, the children of the new earth are connected to five rays or to raise five through 13, each wave showing up during a certain historical period with a certain mission. And she's careful to say the dates aren't exact. And I thank her for that. This isn't some, you know, rigid spreadsheet where if you were born in 1984, you're automatically one thing. But if you were born in 86 or something else. She says it's more like astrological cusps.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So there's some overlap and people can carry traits from more than one category. And so the categories are just supposed to help people look at the patterns and, you know, not like a shove every weird kid into a copy. cosmic filing cabinet because they're, we're all different. We're all unique and special. Very classified. You're unique and special, but go sit over here with all the other kids like you that we're sorting you into the group of. It's very interesting, man. And then you think of the generation that you and I are a part of, that little window of time in between when technology wasn't around and everything was very analog and then we started getting digitized in technology.
Starting point is 00:11:38 We're in that sweet spot of being able to appreciate tangibility and books and such, but also being able to navigate PDFs and whatnot. Right. I'm actually the definition. of a cusp because I'm technically not Gen X, but I'm also kind of, I guess, depending on who you ask, a little bit off from being millennial too, kind of in between us. So you're the cusp of the cusp. Yeah, exactly. Because that's an inevitability, right? There's an edge to the edge.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And you find yourself there. Yeah. Awesome. So the first ray she talks about here is the fifth ray or the Emerald Ray, and that's connected with the 1800s. So these are the early pioneers, you know, people who challenge systems and, uh, expand science and push humanity to this new level of awareness. And she gives examples of people who she sees as these different rays.
Starting point is 00:12:25 So the Emerald Ray examples would be Frederick Douglass, Susan B. Anthony, Harriet Tubman, Nicola Tesla even. Okay. She says these people carried emerald ray qualities of independence, intellect, justice, in a willingness to stand against the machinery of their time. Then the sixth ray, the Ruby Ray, roughly 1900 to 1950. So she skips through the first four and just goes right to the fifth on to the 13th. And it's interesting too because the Emerald Palace and Wizard of Oz, but she had ruby slippers.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Oh, yes. Interesting. I wonder if there's, and then the Yellow Brook Road, which would represent gold. Maybe that's where she got the ideas. Oh, I mean, no, they came from these beings, of course. Right. So, yeah, these Ruby Ray people, this is about devotion, sacrifice, ministry. So people like Mother Teresa Rosa Parks, she even had some musicians like B.B. King and Martin Luther King Jr. is not a musician. But yeah. And the common thing with Ruby rays in her view is that these are souls who endured hardship or used their gifts in a way that opened the human heart. And some of them did it through civil rights, some through music, some through, you know, environmental preservation and even spiritual devotion, all those kind of things. The seventh ray is the Indigo children, which M.U listeners should be especially familiar with.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Definitely. And then she puts that at roughly 1950 to 1990, and these are system breakers, the ones who don't do well with fake authority or corrupt institutions or, you know, because I said so type of logic. Jill sees Indigo's as warrior spirits of change. They're intense and justice-oriented, often even psychic or clairvoyant, and not exactly built to just sit quietly in the, corner while the adults in charge screw everything up. Man, sing my song. How about it, huh? So we're Indigo kids?
Starting point is 00:14:20 So describing us to a T based on this definition, honestly. But I like her overlap because the next one, the eighth ray is Blu-ray Starsees, roughly 1950 to 2005. So you see this overlap. How wild. Then you think of Blu-ray discs and how that was then the new super medium that was to bring you new visual quality standard in video. Yeah, it's funny how pop culture kind of blends into this.
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's so weird, yeah. But she says these people, the Blu-rays, are more connected with what she calls the high heart, speaking truth through love rather than fury. So they still have a mission, but the energy is different from the indigoes. They're less of a, you know, a battering, battering ram and kind of more about transmutation. Yeah, less of a hammer, more of a pin to be yielded mightier than the sword, eh? Yeah, and in her idea, they're here to teach. people how to express truth without turning everything into a war.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Oh. So I can resonate with that, too. Yeah. Yeah, we need the infrastructure. We like the bridges and stuff. And they've built some cool things. Yeah. Yeah, we'll keep that around.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So the ninth ray also overlaps with Blu-ray and the indigoes. This is the crystal children, roughly from 85 to 2005. Okay. And these are gentler, more sensitive, more heart-centered. So indigos might kick the door open. crystals are more about softening the room, you know, after the door's been kicked off his hinges. They're still part of the change, but they're, I get it more of like a peacemaker type of thing. Yeah, but like she said, there's an overlap in there.
Starting point is 00:15:53 So you could be what an indigo, a blue ray and a crystal child all in one? Could you come in with those three qualities because you were born in that window or do you pick one? That's why I, so that's kind of where she gets to later is that a lot of these, especially what the rainbow children, and you can guess what that means. A lot of them are carrying several frequencies at once. I see. Okay. I didn't mean to get ahead of you there, but okay, I get it. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:16:20 No, I mean, it's easy to see where we're going with this. Okay, fair enough. And that is actually the next one, the 10th ray, and this is roughly 2005 to 2015, a little bit shorter of a window. These children, she says, can hold multiple ray energies at once. Their aura may appear rainbow-like, and their mission involves balancing divine masculine and divine feminine. Okay. You get your androgynous type
Starting point is 00:16:43 folks. Androgeny. We can't tell if it's so masculine or so feminine, so we're just going to blend the two into one. Beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, but she also connects us to kind of a larger cultural shift, you know, around gender and identity and the breakdown of rigid binaries. Right. Because binaries are evil. How dare you not see you could fold that penis into a vagina. Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:17:06 flexible. How dare you? The 11th ray is the Diamond Children, and this is from about 2010 to 2020, and these are pure, innocent, multidimensionally wise, which every kid I've seen born from that era is not, at least yet.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But they're part of the final wave focused mainly on healing humanity itself. After them, according to Jill, the mission begins to shift more strongly towards healing Earth and building the new Earth. We'll blow through these last two, the 12th rays, Golden Ray, This is 2015 to 2025.
Starting point is 00:17:38 These are the ones from her original prophecy. They're here to anchor unity consciousness and assist Earth's ascension. They also supposedly have a role in helping humanity understand AI, transhumanism, and the huge technological change is already, you know, that we're already kind of living through. The last one, at least, you know, in her idea here, is the 13th ray. This is the solar ray. And this is roughly 2020 to 2030.
Starting point is 00:18:04 These children are connected not to the physical. sun exactly, but to what she calls the central sun, which is the spiritual sun at the heart of life, or, you know, what we call source or God. Okay. And their mission is tied to sustainability, innovation, planetary balance, and activating certain dormant codes in people incarnated during the same era. These are the people that are going to come in to stop eating meat and that we're heading to Raphael's vision, where we're going to have the wolves raised with lambs and alter species
Starting point is 00:18:34 across the world. Kind of what it sounds like. Dance around in salad beds. Salad beds. Fly around in airships. Okay. Yeah. Just braid stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:45 So, yeah, that's the basic setup for it. History in her view is not just random parades of generations. It's actually a sequence of soul waves. So humanity hits a certain point. And then a certain type of child arrives carrying the frequency that is needed for that next stage. It's like the Pat Green song, Wave on Wave. This is what Mother Guy is going to here. He came upon me.
Starting point is 00:19:05 on wave and it's just all these little batches of children that have specialized skills that come in to kind of a shit set up if you will you know juxtapose to their mission which is to fix that which is not correct here that implies that you send a bunch of kids
Starting point is 00:19:21 into a war zone like a shitty situation for them to heal because your galactic federation with all the ray guns and stuff wouldn't come out and take the lizard turns out it's kind of what it's sounding like do you see how like you're it's a sweatshop essentially yeah Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Just so we're clear. Yeah. So the interesting pattern, though, is that, like you said, kind of every generation kind of arrives with a different kind of nervous system, different gifts, different problems, different ways to solve those problems. Definitely different tolerance levels for old bullshit. She also mentions something she calls way showers. And a way shower is basically someone who doesn't just recognize that change is needed, but actually starts walking into the change before everyone else is comfortable with it. it. Oh, God. So, you know, like pioneers, trailblazers, the weird aunt, the rebellious kid, the maybe whistleblower. She actually mentions Snowden and, what's the other guy? Edward Snowden and
Starting point is 00:20:18 fuck, what was his name? McKinnon? Gary McKinnon? No. Snowden and, oh, shit. Somebody's yelling at me right now. Right now. Mike Wilkerson, Stelium 7 was the first hacker arrested in the U.S. I wish I was Which we'll have him on for sure He's a badass Still am 7 on YouTube Guys check him out Yeah anyway
Starting point is 00:20:42 That type of person The people who just say The uncomfortable thing out loud Oh yeah Yeah But man your your nervous system Does need to be pretty Tapped for that
Starting point is 00:20:53 Because being ahead of shit Kind of sucks You know this is where you look around You see everything's broken And everyone continues to do the damaging things And you're You sit And this is where
Starting point is 00:21:03 Also, your, I guess, patience comes in because you're like, oh, well, Paul revering doesn't work. Yelling at everyone running around saying the sky is falling just doesn't get the results. It makes people lock up. So it is interesting, the nervous system development on just that, being aware of something like seeing the missile come to hit you before anyone else does. Yeah. Yeah. So she says that they often have hard lives. That's part of the deal.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You know, if you're a pioneer, you're usually not incarnating into the nice smooth. though everything goes great and everybody claps, you're here to learn through the friction, the pain, rejection, you know, in modern, I mean, family weirdness, social alienation, things like that. But she says all that becomes part of the training. And one of the actually more grounded things she says, even, you know, within this crazy thing that she's describing is that growth doesn't just come from having challenges. It comes from how you respond to them.
Starting point is 00:21:59 It's a big thing for people to wrap their heads around. We've talked about this numerous times. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's not about you. It's about how you respond and feel and either observe, absorb all the things, man. Yeah. It's all ninja training, dude. All of it. This is your mental temple. She says the challenge itself, you know, doesn't automatically equal wisdom. You have to, the way you respond to these challenges is what shows the wisdom in action. It's the thing my grandma used to say, never pray for patience, honey, because God's not going to give you patience. He's going to give you the exam. samples to be patient through and then you discover it for yourself. And I was like, oh, yeah, no, I don't want that. So, yeah, it's this ideal is if you don't feel like you have it already, this want, want doesn't get, right?
Starting point is 00:22:43 So if you're wanting something, what you do get is the opposite of it so you can feel that you've either already had it or that you can't achieve it within yourself. No one's going to come save you. Right. So that idea of a lottery win coming in, that's why it goes so quick away from folks. It's a energy-based system. Yep. She also says that the child parent relationship is part of this soul level arrangement. And when it comes to these new earth children, the parents aren't random.
Starting point is 00:23:11 We've heard that a lot in different stories, too. The child chooses people who can either, you know, provide the lessons or support of the awakening required for the child's mission. And that kind of becomes important later because she says the older waves, the indigoes, the blue rays, and the crystals. Ouch. Those are the older waves. That's all me. Shots fired. We were born in the 1900s, bud. She says they often chose difficult family systems because they needed the friction.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Rainbow children are a little bit more mixed. Some, you know, choose parents who need lessons. Others choose more awake into parents. But the Diamond, Golden, and Solar Children supposedly only choose parents or grandparents who are already awake enough to support them. So I have a kid who would fit into the, I guess, golden or between Diamond and Golden. So thanks, buddy, for picking me because that means I'm already awake enough to support you. Good. Well, and if you think, like, scale out with me, buddy. So your job is to make sure that you pick parents where the home is so filled with friction that you become this shining star of who you are out of the lotus growing out of the mud, right? But what that means then is the realm needs to continue to layer mud on top of mud on top of mud to keep producing more and more extreme situations for children to then be placed in for friction to occur. So where is the gift here? Where's the relief?
Starting point is 00:24:29 from it. It seems like all you're doing is putting, like you, right? You had kind of a rough fucking ride, okay? Well, I already know it because I just love you. But your kid is not going to have as, let's say, rough of a ride from their parents specifically. But if that's their job, is to be screwed up by their parent, which then creates the friction, which then allows them to unlock all of their gifts, you've got to keep having kind of parents that screw over their kids. And then is this why the kids usually do the opposite of what the parents were? Like, if they were super Christian parents or not, they were hippies, uh, they're, uh, they're The kids usually go super the other way and go hell, establishment and hardcore matrix.
Starting point is 00:25:04 So if you're always going to be pushed to the opposite, you have these super enlightened parents, doesn't that mean then that the kid has a tendency to create the friction again so that then we just perpetuate this? Well, it's the old, you know, strong men create easy times, easy times, create soft men, soft men create hard times, hard times create strong men. So it does seem to be cyclic in that way too, but she does describe the later waves, these Gen Z and beyond that they they're too sensitive, too high frequency and too mission specific to incarnate into total chaos without some kind of support structure. So it's like you're literally saying there's snowflakes. Okay. Yes. So but then how do you manage that? Which then these parents
Starting point is 00:25:47 are like protecting them and their psychic gifts. Do you see how it's another just bifurcation? Oh no, my kid's psychic and yours is the dirty one that goes to public school. It's like this odd, how bizarre do you. Yeah. Visit BetMGM casino and check out the newest exclusive. The Price is Right Fortune Pick. BetMGM and GameSense remind you to play responsibly. 19 plus to wager. Ontario only.
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Starting point is 00:26:52 So everyone starts panicking and ducking and fucking running around screaming and all that, trying not to get stung. And without thinking, she's just standing there. up and starts sweet-talking the wasps. She's not, you know, swatting at them or anything, just talking to them. She says she enters an altered state and starts merging her energy with the wasps. Then she tells the people in the stands to flatter and praise the wasps because apparently that, you know, Southern bless your heart treatment should be transferable to winged insects too.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And then according to her, the wasp fly away. She comes back to normal awareness, opens her eyes, and everybody is staring at her like she just auditioned for the lead. psycho role in silence of the lambs. Yeah. But then they start laughing and she starts laughing too and sits back down. But it's just funny because this star seed thing, it doesn't always work that way either. I wouldn't recommend that if you got a bear about to swipe your face off.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Maybe just run and don't try to talk to it telepathically. Just my thought. Yeah, this is almost like the spiritual equivalent of eating tideponds. It's like probably not a good idea. You know, maybe some common sense can step in at some point. And I get that you're sitting here going, oh, no, wasps don't sting me. Awesome. That sounds cool.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Goal and gap. Again, you know, if you've been stung by enough wasps, it's not usually your tendency. So it's, this is just fascinating, man. I mean, it really is. The wasp thing, I will kill a motherfucker. I mean, those winged assholes. The bees, I leave them alone. If you don't freak out, they just leave you alone.
Starting point is 00:28:26 A wasp can fuck off all day. We do our best to live in harmony with nature. And I'm not over there knocking nest down intentionally and all that kind of stuff. But I'm with you that, dude, sometimes. And man, there was one that just, I guess, had it out for me. He popped out of a raft or under our carport thing and got me right in the under eyelid. You know the under eye? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Just pink right there. And then just fucked off. And I don't get it. I wasn't being mean to him. It's not like, you see what I mean? So where's the golden gap here? Where did the wasps get the memo that we're supposed to be doing that now? Well, as far as I know, or certain types of hornets and all that kind of thing, they don't, I mean, they might, I don't know, help with the plants and all that stuff, but they don't make honey.
Starting point is 00:29:09 They do. And I saw a gardener that will keep a wasp nest specifically by his garden because they do come in and take out some pretty gnarly pests for your vegetables. So there is a symbiotic relationship to be had here, but it's an interesting example. Yeah. So the next, you know, a couple chapters, she goes into the, uh, the indigo children pretty hard. And she does say that, you know, these are probably the most familiar to people, especially if you listen to crazy shows like this. We've heard a lot about the indigo kids, haven't we? Yeah. Yeah. So again, these are, uh, what she says between 1950 and 1990. Uh, their aura is supposedly indigo, believe it or not, violet or deep blue. And their core mission is to disrupt.
Starting point is 00:29:53 stagnant systems and force humanity confront things it has been avoiding. Yeah. And she does say that not all indigoes are the same personality. Some are these loud, you know, rebel types. Some are just artistic visionaries. A little bit of both. And some are compassionate truth tellers.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Some are, oh, Julian Assange. That's the other one. Oh, yeah. Good cool. Way to go. Just popped right in. Yeah, yeah. And some of these indigos are also spiritual seekers. And some are just like allergic to,
Starting point is 00:30:23 fakeness and you know terrible you know political systems and all that kind of thing and that definitely is a lot of me but yeah check check check yeah you know just things like you know school feels wrong politics religion there's always just something off about it and you know I know you feel the same way too it's like why is everybody pretending this makes sense it doesn't what why do you just keep going along with it like this is it's stupid like look at it yes this is the part it's don't you guys see it. Can't you see it? And that is one of the most frustrating things. Because like you said, we can use wass. There's wasp all over you, buddy. Just get up and move. You know, kind of thing. No, no. Oh, but why does my arm hurt? Like it's been stung by a bunch of wass. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Why does it? It's that. It's this odd bifurcation. And it seems like just common sense. This is where the term, right? Common sense is not that common. That's where it comes from. It's because these super obvious things are not obvious at all. And this is kind of that Da Vinci quote, right? Those who see, those who see when shown and those who don't see. Right. It's like, yes, we get a wave of indigo kids in, but can we get more than like five a generation?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah. Can we get like a decent number of these motherfuckers coming in? Can we ramp them up a bit? Mm-hmm. Yeah, she talks about it like, you know, why did I feel, why do I feel like I got into a simulation where everybody else received some instructions that I never got? Because it doesn't make sense. This, it's like a big game.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And it's like you don't get it because you don't. And that's the thing. But you're shocked that everyone else is playing this retarded in. visible game. You're like, you've got to be kidding me with this. It does. It feels, it's a mind fuck. Honestly, it really is. Oh, yeah. She gives a couple examples. This one dude named Michael, he was born in 1954. He talks about sitting around in elementary school and just suddenly having this bizarre thought that everyone around him might actually be robots. Yeah. You know, not like an actual robot way, especially in 1950s, but kind of more like these people are just
Starting point is 00:32:12 moving mechanically through life while he just felt like he was more awake inside of it. He didn't, It didn't even scare him at the time either. He said it felt normal. Like, just this little realization that he didn't really belong to the same operating system as everyone else. So I know a lot of people feel like that these days, too. Absolutely. Like, it's NPCs, right? This is where we get this idea.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Like, how can you all like the same dumb fucking shit that's obviously dumb and awful? How can you all believe the same lie when it's obviously a lie? These are the odd parts where you're like there's a huge conspiracy going on here at some level. Yeah. It's kind of like a, you know, we've seen this game before. I don't know how. I don't remember directly, but you can just see through the bullshit. It's like they live and you put, you have the glasses on. You're like, look at it. It's right there. It's like the Batman, the animated series episode with the Mad Hatter when he wakes up in the dream and his parents are still alive and he's got this perfect life and he just doesn't, like things are just not right. He can't put his finger on why. So he has to determine he's in this dream the whole time. And then he jumps off a bell tower. and kills himself at the end, and that's how he gets out of the fake simulation. This is not advice people, by the way. But that silica packet thing, right? You know, it says, do not eat in quotes.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Maybe this is the ticket out. And really, the simulation is how long are you going to fucking stand here, dude? You know, how long are you going to do this? Again, I'm not an advocacy for suicide. What I'm saying is, is it's just interesting these perspectives when you start seeing these conspiratorial mind fucks around you, you start really feeling like you're maybe in a dream. Maybe this is why I don't dream because I'm in one.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And you people are all telling me that you dream to make me feel better about it. No, and it's not, you know, it's easy for people to be like, oh, it's because you think you're better than, no, it has nothing to do with that. Nothing to do with it. It's like, if anything, it makes, you know, people who feel like that feel more crazy because, like. More alienated.
Starting point is 00:34:04 How am I, this doesn't make sense. Can you not see that? And they're like, no. And you're like, well, shit, I guess I'm the crazy one then. That. And then you go through this, well, what's wrong with me? And really, dude, there's nothing wrong with you, man. That's the big thing I got to tell you.
Starting point is 00:34:15 There's nothing fucking wrong with you. Well done. keep going, take deep breaths, you're doing great. It is. It's such a alienating and bizarre feeling, dude, for real. So again, she does bring up, again, I have his name here. Yay, Julian Assange and Edward Snowden, as specific examples of indigo-type souls, these people willing to blow open hidden systems, regardless of personal consequences. And, you know, whether you see people like that as heroes or dangerous people or possibly
Starting point is 00:34:43 plants or, you know, controlled opposition or something like that, it's still the same archetype that she's trying to get across with these indigo types so it is and then it it's sort of a public example of if you choose to be one of these here's what will happen to you you know you'll be hunted by the u.s. government you'll have to stay in exile you'll have to so it is sort of a forward facing option of that but there are many other shades to that option not just the one the media wants you to focus on and think about right and you can see how the this whole indigo child concept became so popular kind of culturally because if you kind of step back and look at the generations born in that period they they grew up during like vietnam and watergate and mk ultra and
Starting point is 00:35:27 yeah corporate corruption everything you can think of and then you know we go into this era now we have mass surveillance the internet all you know just one thing after another you can see why they would lean more towards that kind of uh thinking yes yes it's like we went too far you know we went to screens and stuff and then we just went too far and now the wave of kids is going to maybe help us back it back just a little bit like we like the technology we're just not into the panopticon version of it yeah oh she also interviewed another lady named sally rice and sally talked about seeing patterns of light and energetic threads around situations and people uh she talked about like uh looking at the emotional architecture underneath reality instead of just the you know the surface mask
Starting point is 00:36:12 facade that most people I guess most people see and uh Jill actually says this is a common thing among Indigo's too that they can pick up on hidden motives and emotional you know intense and maybe even future probabilities without even knowing how they know it's just this kind of intuition yeah but she also talks about how
Starting point is 00:36:34 there's kind of a burden to that because imagine being a kid who senses things that adults can't explain like you know somebody's lying before they admit it or uh maybe you have a pre-cog thing about danger before it even happens or even dreaming about things like that. Yeah. And again, that can make somebody that experiences that feel pretty crazy, especially when the adults around them just immediately shut it down. But then what's the point of something like that?
Starting point is 00:36:58 It's psychological torture at that point, right? Yeah. If you know you're sending a kid into a situation that he's got a, they've got to negotiate mentally and emotionally. And their job is to anchor this beautiful light frequency among a bunch of turds. Where, again, where's the proportion? Is it like, okay, we'll send in one at a time? Again, the vast number is what is so interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:16 If this was to an effect, why would you just send a shitload of it? Well, I think that's part of the thing about that aura type needing friction or needing the hardship of it because that's how the mission is accomplished. But they're killing us off. Do you see what I mean? The people who are creating hydrogen cars and they're like the ones with all the friction. They did all the stuff they got so far in life. They created this amazing thing. and then they get killed off their stuff gets closeted, nobody ever.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It's this. Like, what is with the opposition to it? I don't know, but she does talk about, like, the cost of being one of these way showers, as she calls them. She's basically saying, you know, people romanticize pioneers until they actually meet one. Everybody loves this idea of, you know, a revolutionary truth teller, but it's mostly in hindsight because in real time, these people are usually annoying as shit, especially to the systems around them. frogs are gay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Chain smoking. Yeah. Yeah, she compares it to candy of all things. Some days people experience you as sweet and inspiring. And other days they react to you like you're the sourest thing they ever tasted. Oh. And yeah, I guess that could track historically too. So anyway, as she moves on from indigo, so after she talks about indigoes basically coming in and kicking holes through the walls and screaming about corruption and injustice and poisoned and fake authority, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:39 So she says the next wave, the blue rays and crystal children are one of the more interesting ones, actually, because according to her, humanity couldn't survive indefinitely in a pure indigo mode. If everybody is permanently furious and always exposing things and blah, blah, blah, then eventually you just end up exhausted. So you can identify every problem in civilization and still have no idea how to actually heal people emotionally afterwards. Yeah. So that's where the blue rays and crystal children come in to kind of shift the emotional energetic atmosphere. So, of course, like we said, the blue rays came first. Right. Between 1950 and 2005, overlapping with the indigoes, but on a very different mission, their aura supposedly has more blue-green or aquamarine qualities.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And their role is tied to what she calls the high heart, which we mentioned earlier. and this is obviously one of those concepts that pops up a lot in new age and like chakra heavy type stuff. The high heart is basically an energetic bridge between the traditional heart chakra and the throat chakra. So instead of truth being expressed through rage, force, or combat, it's expressed through compassion and emotional clarity. The Blu-rays, according to Jill here, are here to teach humanity how to speak truth from love instead of from hatred. But even if you speak truth from love, it still comes across as hatred a lot of the times. Yeah, because you're hating on their ability to eat cannibalize fast food and get fat and take pills. And yeah, how dare you, tromp on their freedoms.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Yeah. And they're right. I mean, honestly, in a way, you know, everybody's got the right to live their own lives. But that's the point here is if motivation is key in change. Wanted to just send a bunch more people in, more motivated change, then the system can squash out at a time. Ah, one of the mysteries of life. Why don't we have more of these people? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yeah. She also said that the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:40:36 uh, still, uh, like, have this intuitive and, like, deeply sensitive weirdness to them, but that they're a lot more empathetic.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So, you know, crowds drain them or, you know, any kind of like, a, manipulation or violence or anything like that, dishonesty that it's really draining on these,
Starting point is 00:40:54 uh, blue ray individuals. Hmm. Uh, but they, a lot of them apparently just feel emotions that don't even belong to them, which is part of being, you know, empathetic. You know, you walk into a room and just immediately start feeling somebody's anxiety or, you know, fear or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I've definitely had moments like that, but I have to, like, consciously turn it off because it's too much. It's like psychic vampirism. It's like, no, you're not putting that on me. Sorry. Yeah, I've got that. I've got that, too. A sticky. I feel it, right?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Whenever folks are moody or anxious or anything like that, like you tell lies, all those kind of things. It is interesting, man. And I heard the other day about snapping. Like you literally snap to cut cords with people. See, if you picture, yes, you walk into a room with five people in it. And then you feel all of their shit. Basically, they latch out to you with little grappling hooks. And you could snap them away from you.
Starting point is 00:41:46 So that's one way to practice it is to mentally be aware that, you know, maybe some energies in that's not yours and to just kind of move that on. Oh, yeah. Now, everybody knows somebody like that where as soon as you get around them, you just like, ugh, I'm so tired. Like, you might even yawn because it's just instantly draining on you. It's like, have you ever watched what we do in the shadows? I don't know if I've asked you that before.
Starting point is 00:42:08 You have asked me and I have not. I'm familiar with the concept. It's like the office for vampires. It's a ridiculous show. I think it's super funny, but I also like stupid shit. So, but they have one of the vampires in there is a psychic vampire and he's the most annoying guy ever. And he gets online and it's the perfect example. He's an internet troll to get.
Starting point is 00:42:29 He's like, you know, it's cheap. food but it works in a pinch and he just goes and post stupid shit on people's like, uh, like, post stupid comments and stuff like that just to get the reaction, because the reaction is what feeds him. Right. So when people lash out, he's like, oh, it's so tasty. And you feel that, have you ever felt this?
Starting point is 00:42:46 Have you ever been around someone you were engaging with that? You were like, hang on, you're enjoying this. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is why the disoblaging of reality is the way to go here. Basically, you're not engaging in it meaning you're not even recognizing the tentacle. If you do anything, snap it off of you.
Starting point is 00:42:59 You know, like removing a cutting the cable, right? Very interesting within that, man. I think a lot of them don't even realize it either. A lot of, you know, what you would call a psychic vampire. And this is actually something. I read this in a book like 20 years ago. So, and I always thought it was like, oh, yeah, whatever. And then as I grew, I was like, you know, there's, there's a lot of people like that.
Starting point is 00:43:20 And I don't think a lot of them realize it. They just, they offload the, you know, it's the people that come and tell immediately, hey, how's it going, bud? Oh, good to see you. immediately start in with the worst thing happened at work today. Yes. And it's always like that. You can tell stories without it draining someone.
Starting point is 00:43:36 You know what I mean? Like, without transferring that to them. But that's not their point. And that's the thing is whether they're conscious of it or not, they are draining someone else's energy by just engaging in it and biching about something. And that's a great line in a movie, no misery is worth complaining,
Starting point is 00:43:51 meaning that if you're doing that constantly, you are going to probably keep seeing that stuff. You're speaking it out loud. in that I saw the definition of the future is anything that occurs in writing and after writing and speaking. So writing and speaking is the way that you design your future. So if you're yelling about how shitty everything is all the time, then perhaps that's what you get. Yeah. No, that's why I was like, I might be worried about something. Like it's the old story of like the, I can't remember where it was from, but somebody's grandma or something was talking about their roof and how it was going to, it was going to leak because she just knew it was going to leak.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Do you remember that story? No, but I know what you're talking about. It's that praying for patience. You're going to get the situation to where what you feel is going on is going on. You're going to see that. She kept talking about and just being constantly focusing her attention, knowing her roof was going to leak at some point. Eventually it did and she's like, huh, fucking knew it. It's like, okay, maybe you called it. Was it was a precognitive thing and you were psychic? Or did you manifest that by continuously focusing on it? this is the same reason we say thank you for being safe when Mary and I depart on whenever we're doing whatever away from one another or if I just go outside to work on stuff it's the parents who go don't fall out of that tree and then the kid comes walking in 20 minutes later with his arm crying because he broke it because he fell out of the tree it's like if you'd stop casting these spells everywhere because you're designing your life with your words maybe and so if you just say thank you for being safe it presupposes all the measures that you were previously programmed to be concerned about is the way I'll put it are nullified. Right. It's almost a little bit of NLP too because the person hearing that is like, thank you for being safe. Oh yeah, I should be safe. I'm climbing a tree or, you know, whatever they're doing. So, yeah. Presupposes. Oh, yes, I was safe. It's retrocausality. You're predicting it by your speech. Very interesting, dude. But yeah, she does get into a lot of this, what I call psychic vampism, but, you know, kind of the middle section here talking about energetic protection. She talks about oras and
Starting point is 00:45:48 boundaries and grounding, shielding techniques, all these kind of like psychic practices you can pick up on if you think this stuff is real. Even if you don't, it might be something to check into anyway. Well, what a great way to put it. If you think this stuff is real, because isn't it just what you've heard about, what you picked up that you're aware of that affects you, or is it any of this shit affects you whether you know it or not? Right. Because quantum physics, it only collapses to a certainty whenever, because other than that, it's just endless possibilities. It can be anything. Vampires could be anything. They could be here to help you out with cool shit. They could sexually transmit you humor and you could be funnier, you know, by making love to a sweet vampire.
Starting point is 00:46:28 There's all sorts of ways that you could interpret these moments, but to automatically associate them with these horrible things, which is, I think, again, a program. It's a spellcasting. It's like, oh, watch out for because it exists. And so therefore you've got now this in your mindscape. Same thing. Oh, look, because they're watching all the time, this penopticon idea. You're always being watched and surveilled so be on your best behavior citizen right that that idea it's all mental seeds that are planted this is why that predictive programming is so effective right they put it in movies and tv and stuff and then they start bleeding it out under the news and everybody thinks it's just an inevitability because they've seen it for so long but perhaps you've been creating it because
Starting point is 00:47:04 someone has been whispering in your ear to create it with your powers yeah exactly that's the whole game with media i mean i think it was medeos i think it was a greek god or something but it was literally the god of like media and it's it's an entity and it's meant to steer the narrative but also kind of manifest you know what's happening in real time by harvesting people's attention and energy into creating what the narrative wants and that's a crazy thing to say but the more you look around the more you're like man it could be and they would make it feel crazy to say because it's everywhere and being used constantly so they would you know gaslight it again call you conspiracy theorist if you look into it, but of course because that's what they're using to cast
Starting point is 00:47:49 the spell on you. Just always be careful people that say you can't question anything or make you feel crazy for questioning something. That's someone to watch out for. Estella red flag, yo. Fuck all of that right there. Yeah. That, in fact, are the things you should question.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Yeah, exactly. Start there. You should look into that further. Immediately. Then she moves on again to the Crystal Children arriving heavily, she says, around 1985 through 2005. Shout out. I was born in 86, so came on.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I guess I'm all three. I'm glad I'm not part of the rainbow children for no reason other than just gay. Gay. She says, you know, where Indigo's are these fiery, confrontational, anti-authority, kind of intense people. You know, the crystal children are described more like emotional tuning forks. They're gentle and empathetic and quiet. Maybe even telepathic. That is not me.
Starting point is 00:48:43 but yeah she talks about them as carrying an energy that naturally softens people around them and apparently one of the things many parents noticed with Crystal children was delayed speech
Starting point is 00:48:54 or unusual communication patterns Yeah yeah Some supposedly communicated emotionally or telepathically before actually speaking out loud with their voice And obviously depending on how you think about it Some people are like whoa crazy
Starting point is 00:49:07 Or okay now we're just fully driving off a crazy metaphorical cliff but Jill treats it pretty seriously. She says Crystal children often seem unusually wise or calm or even observant and kind of emotionally aware for how young they are. Some parents in these interviews she conducted described their kids saying bizarrely mature things as toddlers, talking about past lives or invisible friends or, you know, entities, kind of these weird details that most kids don't exactly talk about.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah. one of the things Jill does so well in here is that she doesn't just lecture, you know, abstractly the whole time. She's constantly drops in these personal accounts, you know, moms describing children, predicting things. Grandparents talking about kids, sensing deceased relatives. She drops in all these stories. So, yeah, if you want to pick up the book, there's definitely a lot more details to how she comes to these conclusions. but what makes that interesting, these specific stories is that there's a consistency among all these themes here. You know, different families, people describing remarkably similar behaviors of all these kids.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And again, it kind of reminds me of the telepathy tapes. If you're not familiar with that, it's worth a listen, especially the first season. Really strange shit. And I know there's varying opinions on that. Have you listened to that? I've heard some of it. It is interesting. It's like this ramp up and channeling is what it kind of feels like, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Yeah, kind of. Like these kids are being channeled to directly. It's almost like they're more influenced from an outside source. Yeah. And the other thing is that it makes it seem like all of these children with autism are inherently gifted in some way. and that might not be the case. Some of them, maybe. It could also be our generation's way of writing off
Starting point is 00:51:10 that vaccine injured autism is a huge thing. And if that's the way that you're bringing kids in, then you now have an excuse to continue to vaccine injure your children. I mean, yeah. Get some superpowers, right? Yeah, they don't talk for the first six years, but man, that laser vision comes in handy.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Yeah, it's definitely worth a debate or at least a thought in maybe, you know, gathering up a few different perspectives. Well, because look at how we're hearing it and what we have to go on here. Okay, so the world's fucked, all right? And the world's awakening. But we're trickling in children to bear the burden of what allegedly, because where does your mind go with that? Why the fuck are you sending kids in against these insurmountable odds?
Starting point is 00:51:53 You don't even give them UFOs or anything. Portal tech. Like, you got to help these kids out a little bit. and you send them into a weird, weird world where their parents were specifically chosen to screw them up. So it's validating my sort of hypothesis that you're that that's what your parent's job was to do. It's really screw you up. So it's validating that, great. Now moving on from there, again, you know, we're only given a piece of the plan,
Starting point is 00:52:19 and this is from some people that can interpret these messages. So now we get into interpretation. Is she accurately documented this? Is it actually opposite day and really everything that people are being? channeled to, you have to read it backwards and inverted to apply it here because that's the way the realm works. Yeah. And if we're applying all these channels in linear time, that's been our issue the whole time. So all these weird questions come up, honestly. And again, if you've listened to MU or any of these crazy shows for any amount of time, you know it always brings up more questions
Starting point is 00:52:50 than answers. Yes. But that's okay. We can keep questioning. Maybe we'll find something out one day. Maybe. And maybe this realm has perpetuated on questions. And if we stop asking questions all together, it'll just blip out of existence and we won't need Indigo children to be screwed by their parents over now and then. Yeah. Then she moves on to rainbow children. I'm going to kind of barrel through these I mean, because you can imagine
Starting point is 00:53:11 what rainbow children are. She says they begin arriving heavily around 2005 through 2015, and their defining trait is that they can supposedly embody multiple rays simultaneously. Their energy isn't fixed
Starting point is 00:53:28 in one lane. Their aura, allegedly appears rainbow-like because they're carrying many frequencies at once. But she's not describing these kids as like rebels the way Indigo's are. She calls them more like bridge builders. So they blur divisions. They collapse rigid categories. That sound familiar? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:50 They dissolve binary thinking. Uh-huh. And obviously the biggest area where she thinks this shows up is gender and identity. and she kind of goes into a bunch of the whole, you know, masculine versus feminine and blah, blah, blah, blah. But she kind of puts it in more of like an energetic balance way than actual wang-wing-diggly or vagueness, you know. Her argument is that humanity became deeply imbalanced for a long time, this hyper-masculine systems, you know, domination, that kind of what's normally attributed to masculine, rigidity, that kind of thing. But the rainbow generation supposedly comes in carrying a more fluid consciousness that destabilizes these old divisions. And she over and over again uses divine masculine and divine feminine.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And that's fine. That's not new in, you know, new age circles. But she's kind of saying they don't necessarily mean male and female biologically. It's more like energetic principles. So, again, you can look into more of that, you know, the defining characteristics of divine, masculine and feminine. And that's super new age stuff. So, it is. Go down that path if you want. It's interesting to think in terms of reincarnation, because then you can kind of be a little bit empathetic with that draw. Because if you were,
Starting point is 00:55:10 let's say, a woman for 20,000 lifetimes. And then all of a sudden, this is your first lifetime as a dude. You know, the trunk may be a little cumbersome for you. You may not know how to carry it around. And I get that. It's a little bulky. But the point is, is that this is where you could see the psychology. But then again, if you're sending a bunch of people in after 20,000 lifetimes of being a woman to a male physicality, then you're going to get this sort of, and maybe that's the point. Were they doing this for generations before? And then they just switch the genders, and now you get that blurring of the lines because there's so much bleed over from the past life stuff. Yeah. I was reading through an Edith Fiore book, you have been here before that the guy sent the other
Starting point is 00:55:49 day. And it's just honestly depressing reading past life story. Did you find that? Sometimes, yeah. You're sitting here going, okay, well, this lady's upset and she's got issues with her husband because she was raped horribly in a lifetime and then murdered there, left on the street. And then she just wakes up and goes about her life. Like, oh, my headaches are gone now because I figured out that this place is screwy. And then I was killed in this horrible way in another lifetime and it bled into this. If we're going to have a memory wipe, why not wipe it away completely? That is the interesting thing, because in the same genre of stories you'll find, you know, with these past life.
Starting point is 00:56:24 experiences that you have this kind of conflict where it's like, so not everybody remembers their past lives because we have this memory wipe when we die or whatever. So how does some and the reasoning for that is great. It's because we wouldn't learn the lessons if we remember everything else. So how is there some bleed through like you said of some of them? It seems like was there a glitch in the machine that wiped their memories? See, and this is the part where I don't think there is a glitch. I think it's done on purpose. I think that you're held with emotional baggage. got a clear in some way but you're not held the memory of you do you see how like there's no knowledge with the feeling you've got urges you've got impulses but you've got to be regressed you've got to
Starting point is 00:57:05 have shitty relationships and burn a bunch of bridges until you figure that out trauma in general yeah right why not just come in clean slate and and not have any of the bleed over energetically or beyond if you don't remember that your mom has been your lover in 40 lifetimes and that your dad hurted you and 30 of them and like that kind of shit we get that but again why then have your physical body and this one be saddled with a bunch of things and it's subconscious that then you need to recover and then clear like that part of it is baffling to me it seems intentional and it seems torturous it's like old code that just you know has fragments floating around and it pops up every once in a while but where's the equivalent relief code where that nullifies that do you see how
Starting point is 00:57:50 there could be an equal and opposite version of energies here. And again, as more ramp-ups and intelligent and energetically awakened children comes, so too the darkness must come in equal increments, right? You'd think. It's not here to surmount. It's here to equate. Everything balances out, right? It harmonizes, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:58:07 That's why I think she's actually definitely onto something, whether you take it as literal, like these are specific type. I think it's just the way that culture and society moves that these things happen. Yes. So you have super rigid structures or, you know, what's perceived as that. So then the next generation, like you said, it goes opposite to that. We're going to be fluid and blend everything together. Then it reaches a critical mass of people that are sick of that. And what do they do? They go exactly opposite that. No, we're back to structure and rigidity and, you know, there's male and female and blah. You know, so you can see how the pendulum goes back and forth. But this is the point is if it's so reactionary and the pendulum gets blasted from one side to the other, where is that middle ground? And if it's a societal swing each time, so you're putting just enough kids in to then make the reaction to be completely like this for a generation or two and then we'll swing it the other way. It does. It feels like a big clock on some dude's desk in some, like, shitty apartment, not even a good one in another dimension. You know, and we're some Cassio that that's the way we function actually.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Of course, yeah, we'll tell you the time. but to do that, there's a mini-universe in there that's constantly in conflict with itself to run and power the whole thing. Like a quartz crystal, like piezo electricity, or a people zeo electricity. No, that was my wife's huge thing is she's like, everything seems like it's polarity and what makes a battery work is having those polar opposites. Exactly. It's almost like this division and, you know, people, this polar opposite thinking is needed for the realm to sustain. stain itself. Like that's what powers it. Thank you. Tell Jen, give her a big hug for me.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I know, big props to Jen, yes. Well, because this is the whole point here is if it's, if that's the mechanism, why do we keep doing this? Why are we reincarnating to be this back and forth? Okay, now you're going to be the positive. Now you're going to be a lizard turd. Now you're going to, do you see what I'm saying? It's like, it does feel mechanistic at that point because you are in a very designed system. Whether you call it God or not, there's a clock above your head that we recognize. And in that way, there is an instigation of energy. here. Like you're saying, there's generation after generation of these huge changes, big pendulum
Starting point is 01:00:19 swings, all of it very turbulent and activity-laden, none really solution-based in long-term. Yeah. Even our instinct goes against Raphael's vision for a utopian society. We're like instinctually not attracted to that. That's bizarre. So are we made to be like this? It's what it sounds like, doesn't it? It seems like it. Fuck. Yeah. So then she gets into, again, I'm going to kind of skate through this, but the diamond children, and this is kind of a different shift, you know, so if the rainbow children are fluid bridges, the diamond children are portrayed almost as like stabilizers of, I don't know, extremely high frequency energy. And she puts them roughly between 2010 and 2020. And she says they carry silver and pink energy frequencies associated with purity, innocence, and multidimensional wisdom. But what's interesting is she says the diamond children are the final wave primarily focused on healing humanity itself. After them, the mission kind of starts shifting again more towards healing the Earth and preparing for broader planetary transformation. So she talks about them like their little energetic purification systems, little chlorine floaters in your pool.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yeah. And then let's see, we'll scroll down to golden rays and solar rays. And so between the last one and these last two of the golden rays and solar rays, she kind of expanded from like, oh, just gifted spiritual children into this full cosmology about where humanity is supposedly headed next. And obviously, even if you don't buy her framework for this, you can still kind of feel like the anxiety underneath all of it. I mean, this book is written last year, you know, it's pure people are staring at AI. there's just collapsing trust in institutions in general. There's, you know, social division and environmental instability and just nonstop digital shit in your face all the time.
Starting point is 01:02:26 And, but she kind of looks at it spiritually. And according to her, the newest waves of children are incarnating specifically because humanity is entering a period where consciousness and technology are about to collide in ways previous generations never dealt with. And that's where the golden ray children come in. And again, she puts them at around 2015 to 2025. And these are the children from her original Emerald Group prophecy during the Soundbath back in 2014. The one she says, she was told, would be arriving in greater numbers the following year.
Starting point is 01:03:01 So that's why she came up with the 2015. So golden rays are described almost like a bridge between species, between spiritual consciousness and future civilization. and that sounds dramatic as shit, but that's literally where she's going with it. So I'm just here to report on that. The 3D 5D, Dolores Canaan stuff. Has she talked about any of that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I decided to kind of leave that out because, again, if you listen to MU long enough, you know exactly where we're going. Yes, 5D. The time machine, right, that's what happens. You go far enough in time, and then you have this culture living on the surface, just sort of naturalist, everyone living,
Starting point is 01:03:39 communal living, but really it's so that they live in herds, for the people who eat them underground. This odd bifurcation. So all the lizarders go get dums, these bunkers, they live underground. We're supposed to be stuck on top for whatever's coming next. And then after that, what? It's probably... Maybe the golden children are delicious.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And that's why they sent them all in. They've finally perfected the human meat. That's right. In that generation, and it's delicious. Yeah, she does talk over and over. about AI and transhumanism, digital systems, you know, this increasing, like, merging we have with technology, and it's slow. It's slow enough that you don't really realize it. I mean, remember the computer used to be in a special room on a special desk and you only went and visited
Starting point is 01:04:27 it sometimes. Now it's fucking everywhere. The little skins for your player, you know, your MP3 players. Screen savers. Oh, yeah. The screensaver with the little guy walking around on the island. It always changed. So you asked earlier, what was the middle part of the pandemic? It was the 80s and 90s in my shit. So we're already past it, huh? And I don't disagree. We'll start swinging the other way now, hopefully.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Do you think that the 50s was another one of these? So it's like a 27 year, 30 year thing? Seems like something like that, huh? But the 50s was kind of a facade, though, too. I don't disagree. This was after the Federal Reserve and it kind of, and after the Great Depression. So it was kind of like this, a bubble, really. It was kind of an artificial, like, golden era.
Starting point is 01:05:11 of the 50s. Yeah, it's when the water was starting to boil, and it really was, but they just couldn't see it. They were insulated. They had just gotten tossed into that stuff. They just started the boiling process. How interesting, man. It was nice and warm.
Starting point is 01:05:24 It was nice and warm. It was just a hot tub at that point. People were loving it. Yeah, she doesn't go into, like, you know, technology. She's not super Luddite. She's not like, oh, the phones are demonic and Wi-Fi is Satan. She's not doing any of that. She's just saying that technology becomes dangerous when consciousness doesn't
Starting point is 01:05:41 evolve alongside of it. Yeah. Can't disagree. Yeah. When you mount source consciousness to the technology, you agree. Yeah. So she's basically saying, how do humans remain human while entering this increasingly artificial world?
Starting point is 01:05:55 And it doesn't really matter where you are spiritually with this. That's a real question right now. You can already, you know, feel it everywhere. There's kids growing up online from birth. We have this AI generated reality and algorithm, the algorithms that kind of shape who what your identity is, even if you don't realize it, it does do that. Yeah. I mean, virtual relationships.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Are you kidding me? Well, we've never met. I mean, we've got a virtual relationship. We have a spiritual relationship, bro. And how interesting is that, though, that, you know, there are methods, right? You and I are proof of this, Ben and Aaron proof of this. Like, we've never met those guys. They're in a whole other damn side of the realm.
Starting point is 01:06:33 It's the future for them right now. And this all works. How interesting. Yeah, that's, I mean, and that's why it's important. to not be like, oh, it's all bad. Right. It's a tool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yeah. But like what she says, like if you're, if you're not, you know, working on yourself spiritually or however you want to think about it alongside it, then you get this, like, digital isolation type of thing. Yeah. And you're, it doesn't end well in a lot of movies. So. No, a slippery slope to Mad Bax for sure.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Well, and then we get into the whole data center thing and what those are actually meant for. it and it's like something's like she said at the beginning of the show something's we're on the cusp of something here i don't know what it is and i refuse to be blackpilled by it and just be like oh everything's fucked it could be but i'm still gonna have a good time while we're doing it so yeah it's it's just again a slippery slope because you start slipping in things like guys you know children are being born now that are going to kind of take care of it they've they're more suited for it the realm you know it's just the way to go but is it another bolshevik revolution type thing is it another just sit back don't do the action needed now don't start building
Starting point is 01:07:46 guillotine's now let the the golden kids talk to them instead it's like but we have functional hands that can build guillotine now so why don't we just do that and then the kids won't have to battle anyone they can come in here and just hang out yeah i mean from what i've seen the last thing i want when i'm in a nursing home is one of these kids i see out there right now taking care of me that is yeah i'll take the the 12 gauge or something like that it was almost That's the thing. What are we marching towards here? And that makes me sound like an old man.
Starting point is 01:08:16 No, it does a little bit. But think of the music. Think of the, they're going to be on your lawn. And you're not going to want that. Constantly. They already are. She does get into like DNA activation and more of this kind of like 5D, you know, quantum physics buzzwords combined with astrology and just blend it all up.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Why can't we just like this about it, Joe? Why can't we just like hear something like this and enjoy it and go, man, you know, are we the chain smoking Jada? indigo kids here that are just the rebels like man fuck this you kids don't know and it's just going to swing a pendulum and unless you'll start lopping heads off that shit's going to continue like can't you see it I don't know but yeah the the last one she gets into are the solar rays and again like we mentioned at the beginning the this whole thing she calls the central sun this multidimensional spiritual source consciousness
Starting point is 01:09:06 underlying you know existence itself but these solar rays children are apparently here for planetary innovation and sustainability and balance and the next stage of Earth's evolution. So the more interesting thing to me is that the solar rays being the 13th and final that she talks about is that literally like around 2030 we're heading into some kind of evolution. So you read into that however you want, agenda 2030, you can look at better. Bibu Dev Mizra's stuff on the Yuga cycles. There's a lot of different schools of thought that kind of point towards this general time right now.
Starting point is 01:09:51 And I'm not fear mongering. I don't care really. But it's like 2030 to 2040 might be interesting. That's all I'll say. The astrology says this. Everything says this. So, yeah, I think we're just here to, I guess what, commentate during the collapse here and the change and the regime swap over. and to keep people as level-minded and asking good questions and not just roll away with Archangel Michael and if he comes knocking at your door.
Starting point is 01:10:16 That was always my goal with the last show I did is like I'm not putting any up. I mean, sure, I'll put some opinions out there. But really, I'm just commentating on the absurdity that is this timeline we're living in. And there's plenty of it to go around. Yes. And as you maybe could tell here, I'm a bit triggered by the spiritual shit. And maybe that's just my revelness. Like not wanting to just go, oh, well, let's just outsource those of these kids and not help them in the best way that we can.
Starting point is 01:10:40 because it does, like you said, feel like a responsibility in a lot of ways to just at least keep shining your light, just at least keep letting know, letting folks know what you're seeing in a kind way. And again, there's a lot of ways to navigate this. I'm looking forward to spirituality and all that kind of stuff not being triggered. How about that, Joe? There you go. Is that good enough for now? Well, a lot of the triggering just comes from the terminology and this I don't know glossary of terms that just get pulled out all the time
Starting point is 01:11:11 that's what's cringy to me in like exhausting is that I get the ideas but having to use these terms all the time like frequency and ascension what do you fucking mean by that though like what does that mean what does that look like I get the idea but I haven't had anybody explain it well enough that I'm like
Starting point is 01:11:31 oh good descriptions It's always just, it's ascension, bro. And it is a sort of tower of babble, right? It just feels like we're each generation building a little bit closer to a destination. But it takes hard slave labor and it's built in blood. But what is that, like to what end? And we're all going to be pissed on the, maybe this is why you forget is because you are just some little energy molecule
Starting point is 01:11:54 and powering some little shitty Cassio version of a clock on the other side for a kid that keeps hitting snoo. Like he can't even, he's not even on time and he blames the clock. It's not your fault. And that's what the wars are all about and things like this. But again, it's interesting when we start introducing because, yes, the terminology, my eyes glaze over. And I'm sitting here going, where's the action in this? Because I think of Mark Passio's comment about how manifestation and this idea of just willing it into existence came about to snuff out the power in the spiritual movement, meaning that the inaction was placed as a seed within the movement so that it didn't go anywhere.
Starting point is 01:12:31 And it made us feel like we do today, I feel. And so this ideal of passivism in it, this give to Caesar what Caesar's turn the other cheek, do you see how the narrative is just shifted into this religion as well? Yeah. And you can't discount that either. Like that is a possibility. It's just, I guess it just comes back again to how you react about it and, you know, how you want to think about it because you're going to die anyway. So it's like, do you take the high road and just look at everything through rose colored glasses or not, I guess?
Starting point is 01:13:03 And then we get to, if it is so triggering for us, where is it's hope? Because if we don't even believe in it, but we're out here casting spells and writing about it and talking about it as if it's gay and not going to happen in new agey, is it ever going to happen based on just our knowledge of how we script our reality. Yep. And that's why we're here, right, is to debate this shit. I did want to mention before we close out, though, I got an email from Sam, and he gave me one of his little story here, because I had asked people if they'd ever seen a cloaked UFO. Yes. And Sam has.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Hey. So he says he was in downtown Annapolis, Maryland. His friend and him were walking close to her house, which was fairly close to where we worked. We both looked up into the sky and saw an outline in the sky. As we followed the outline, it seemed to be a giant boomerang shape but cloaked. He says this thing must have been like three football fields in size. It took up our entire sky view. It moved slowly across the sky and then disoaked.
Starting point is 01:14:03 appeared. We both talked about it for a few years after, but I haven't spoken to her since. We thought it could be something military, being so close to the Naval Academy, but it was extremely memorable. And he just said it sounded a lot like the story of me and my wife seeing that one. But yeah, I wanted to mention that. Thanks, Sam, for that story. If anybody else out there has any cool stories, send them in because I will mention them on the show. Yeah, send them in. Well done. And thank you guys for writing out. We've gotten a bunch of sweet messages and stuff. Thank you. Yeah. And again, thank you to Jill. for writing that book and her publicist or whoever that it was sending us a copy appreciate it
Starting point is 01:14:37 if you want to get it of course it'll be linked down on the show notes again there's a lot more stories and you know uh i don't know nuances to everything this is just through my lens of jaded cynicism but maybe you'll get something better at it so and it was amplified by me so yeah of course and you know again take it take it what you will guys this is um the chain smoking version of somebody who's been through spirituality and and honestly bought in to a ton of it and this is just what that looks like. So maybe your experience will be different and that's wonderful. Some people, you know, like the Kardashians and that's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Like, go for it. You get a lot of value out of that. And so good on you guys. Go for it. Now, in the extension here, we're going to talk about morphing UFOs, things flying around in the sky that don't stay the same shape as they're traversing the sky, Joe. Very nice. They look like one thing.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Look again. It's not that thing. Still heading the same direction. Still that thing. that thing that was flying, it's just now completely different. What is with these things? Are they going to be like hit it and quit it stories? A couple of hit and quitts.
Starting point is 01:15:39 We're going to go off on some jellyfish type things as well and stuff that morph right in front of people's eyes. From something solid to a jellyfish-like thing. And then it makes you think of cuddlfish and things like this that can mimic other animals. Again, sky skinwalkers, I'm telling you. Yeah, sort of like something flying around in the sky that can alter its shape. And then is this happen with occupants? Is there something inside that thing while it's flying around and do? the seats change around? Are you guys like, oh, we got to stand up because we're morphing
Starting point is 01:16:05 into an octopus now and the seats are going to change? Or does everything on the inside stay the same and the outside changes? Or is it a frigging hologram technology that's really projecting something that looks like one thing and then can shift as it goes? Who knows, man? It's just some bizarre stories we're going to go over. So check the links for that, guys. We've got a bunch of fun stuff we've been doing on. Plus, check that out. Yes. And again, that was Children of the New Earth by Jill Jackson put out last year. Again, it will be linked down in these show notes. If you are a Plus member, stay tuned for what's coming up after the break.
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