NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast - Financial Success Stories: Learn from Listener Wins in 2023
Episode Date: December 7, 2023In this episode of the Smart Money podcast, hosts Sean Pyles and Sara Rathner share the best money moves made by their listeners in 2023. Some of the wins include listeners who moved their Roth IRA ac...count away from a pricey financial advisor, one who paid off their student loans and started a business, and another who successfully managed their money with ADHD. In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: Roth IRAs, credit scores, student loans, estate planning, home buying, credit cards, financial advisors, high-yield savings accounts, paying off cars, money market accounts, 401ks, and HSAs. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend.
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If there's one thing we know here at Smart Money, it's that we have the smartest, coolest,
awesomest listeners in the entire podcasting universe. And for that reason, as we close
out the year 2023, we're giving the microphone over to you.
My name is Melissa, and I am based in Denver. And my 2023 money win is moving my Roth IRA account
out from under the purview of a pricey financial advisor and into an account
where I could manage it on my own. Welcome to NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast. I'm Sean Piles.
And I'm Sarah Raffner.
This episode kicks off our nerdy deep dive into the end of 2023. Sarah, it's been a year.
You can say that again. Actually, I have to say this has been a pretty good year for me. I mean,
I got a new oven, Sean. It doesn't get better than that.
Amazing. Didn't you also have a bun in your oven?
I did. Also that, no, I downplay the importance. I had a baby, which was a way bigger financial
commitment than buying an oven. Hopefully, yeah. It's been a really big financial year. We also
got a new car. It's been a very expensive year.
Lots of big purchases. Yeah. Well, we are always happy to welcome a new little nerd. And I think
I can say that 2023 was a pretty good year for me too. I didn't have a baby or buy an oven or a car,
but I enjoyed some fun travel. My twin sister got married and we answered fantabulous questions from
our listeners all year long. We did. And that's how we usually interact with folks out there in
the audience through their questions. But today, instead of us giving out advice, we're going to
let them do it. That is right. Folks have been hearing us say for months now that we wanted them
to send us the best things they did with their money in 2023,
their best money moves. And today we're going to share the responses that people wrote and
called into us. Smart moves for smart money. Love it. I bet good money that I'm going to
learn something today. I'd say that's an excellent bet. All right. Well, before we do anything else,
we want to bring on a familiar voice who has answered more listener questions than any of us can count. Liz Weston, welcome back to the mic.
Sean, Sarah, it's so good to be here.
So, Liz, we are bereft as we end this year because you are leaving the show,
retiring, and we just can't stand it.
Aw.
That's so sweet.
Liz, what can we offer you to stay? Homemade salted caramel cookies, a new home studio, a car, millions of dollars, my first
born child.
What would you like?
Sarah, you had me at salted caramel cookies.
No child, though.
That's a lot of work.
That's enough.
It's been such a pleasure to work with you and Sean and the whole NerdWallet podcast
crew.
I'm going to miss you guys, but it helps knowing that the podcast is in such great hands and that I'll still be able to hear your voices every week.
Of course.
Well, Liz, it's been the pleasure of a lifetime to host the show with you and to work with you here at NerdWallet all these years.
Tell us a little bit about why you're leaving now and what your plans are.
Or maybe you don't have any plans, and that's fab too.
You know, Sean, I can't even process what it would be like to not have plans.
So maybe that'll be a later stage when I've achieved true retirement enlightenment.
But right now, I'm just booking a lot of travel and getting ready to remodel our house,
which means sorting through a couple decades worth of stuff
as we decide what to pack up and keep.
That should keep me pretty busy for a while.
Yeah, I imagine so.
Well, listeners might not know this about you,
but you're really into miniatures, right?
You do really intricate dioramas and the like.
You rehab dollhouses for charity.
Will you be doing more of that?
Oh, definitely.
Right now I'm fixing up an old dollhouse with a groovy 70s theme. So there's lots of orange and avocado green. Oh, cool.
Oh, what's your favorite miniature project that you've ever done?
And because I'm contractually obligated to ask, what did it cost?
Well, definitely my favorite is my haunted dollhouse. It has crumbling plaster, an alligator in the bathtub and skeletons in the attic who are watching television. And I have absolutely no idea what it costs, but the pleasure it's brought me is absolutely priceless.
I love that. We need some pictures, Liz.
Definitely. Well, we are going to miss you like nobody's business. And we all send you a giant virtual hug and hope to maybe have you on as a guest every
once in a while.
Well, Liz, before you go, any parting words of advice for our listeners?
Keep listening to Smart Money so you can come join me in retirement someday.
Well, maybe one day one of us could afford a mortgage on one of the tiny houses that
you put together.
Downsizing.
Sounds like a good plan. Well, thank you for everything again.
Oh, my pleasure, sweetie.
Thank you, Liz. Most of you listening don't know Liz in person, which is your loss,
trust me. But in addition to being an excellent giver of money tips,
Liz has also been a tremendous career mentor to so many of us at NerdWallet. And I know that there are more than 100 members of the NerdWallet content team who will keep her advice in our
hearts as we progress through our own careers and hopefully also get to retire one day.
Yeah, words can't adequately express how much I'm going to miss having Liz join us in the
co-hosting seat. But Sarah, I have no doubt that we will carry on her legacy of bringing
whip smart personal finance advice, thoughtful conversation and a sense of humor to every seat. But Sarah, I have no doubt that we will carry on her legacy of bringing Whipsmart personal
finance advice, thoughtful conversation, and a sense of humor to every episode. All right. Well,
as we and Liz have said many a time, we always want to hear your thoughts about money and your
questions. Maybe now that we're winding down 2023, you can share your money plans for 2024 with us
or anything else that's on your mind. Leave us a voicemail or text the Nerd Hotline
at 901-730-6373.
That's 901-730-NERD
or email a voice memo to podcast at nerdwallet.com.
Stay with us.
We're back in a moment
with your best money moves from 2023. OK, we're back.
And Sarah, are you ready to hear advice from our listeners instead of giving it?
Born ready, Sean.
Let's do it.
All right.
Our first voicemail is from Denise in Brooklyn, New York. Three years ago, I leased a car.
And at that time, my credit score was below a tier three.
And when we got to that part of the transaction,
the finance person I was working with was pretty demeaning about it.
And I felt that the whole experience just wasn't a good experience and I felt a bit humiliated.
Fast forward three years later to this month, that lease has ended.
I turned in that car and I got a new car from a new dealership.
And when they got to the finance portion, my credit was an 802.
I was very proud of that because I really worked hard to make changes and they paid off.
So that is the best thing that happened to me financially in 2023.
Woohoo! Somebody ring a bell for Denise.
You know, I love two things here. First, she's got a great credit score. And second,
she didn't have to take any crap from Mr. Nasty Finance Person this time around when getting a new car.
So yay for her on all accounts.
Denise, I am very proud of the work you did.
This is a major money accomplishment.
Absolutely agree.
I mean, I'm so sorry she felt humiliated in any way.
But thankfully, that is in the past.
And she's gotten new confidence and a new improved outlook on money.
And maybe that finance person has been since put on a performance improvement plan.
That would be great.
They learned how to be a little bit nicer to their customers.
Yeah.
You know, credit scores are not forever.
You got to be nice to people on the way up.
Yeah.
It is not a reflection of who you are as a person.
It's just a reflection of your history with credit.
Okay.
All right.
Well, let's hear next from Charlie.
They write,
hey, y'all, I'm delighted to share some personal finance milestones I've achieved in 2023.
This year marked a significant achievement for me as I successfully paid off my student loan
balance. I completed my master's degree in clinical mental health counseling back in 2018,
shouldering $50,000 in student loans on a starting salary of $32,000. At that time,
I was unlicensed and eagerly accepted the first job offer that came my way. Driven by the goal
to eliminate my student debt as quickly as possible and to gain valuable clinical experience,
I dedicated myself to work, often including weekends, for the first two years post-graduation.
This relentless pursuit has borne fruit.
I now earn $72,000 annually as a primary therapist
in an intensive outpatient program
slash partial hospitalization program setting,
in addition to managing a private practice
with a select caseload.
Clearing my student loans, which were paused at $37,000,
has been incredibly liberating.
It has also enabled me to maximize contributions
to my Roth IRA and to save for a down payment on a home. Your show has been a phenomenal resource
throughout this journey, and it's exciting to share that I'm now pursuing a certification in
financial therapy through the Financial Therapy Association. Sarah, I think our job here is done.
Yeah, I think we could just call it vacation until after New Year's.
Yeah, right. Let's do it. Okay. Well, the truth is we here is done. Yeah, I think we could just call on vacation until after New Year's. Yeah, right.
Let's do it.
Okay.
Well, the truth is we do have more to come,
but this is just the best, isn't it?
I mean, you have all of the basic advice
we give week in and week out right there in that email.
And better yet,
this person is about to become a financial therapist.
So if you need additional help,
we might know someone.
Love to hear it.
You know, what stands out to me in
Charlie's message is the power of goal setting. Charlie knew what they wanted to accomplish. They
wanted to help people. They wanted to get out from their mountain of student loan debt and to earn
more money. And over a few years, Charlie has found more ways to help more people, paid off
their debt, and more than doubled their salary. This is so, so cool. Okay. Well, here's a voicemail we received from someone who didn't leave their name,
but let's hear from them anyway.
Hi, Sean. I just wanted to say I'm super excited that my great money thing for 2023 was
closing out my grandma's estate and buying a house. So super excited.
Sarah, I haven't done it myself, but I know that clearing out a loved one's estate is no
easy task. So bravo to this listener for getting it done and then buying a house for their own
estate. Home purchases are one of the most terrifying and awesome things you can do in
any given year. Yeah, right up there with having a baby.
Or buying an oven.
Yeah, or a car.
There's so many options.
Well, here's another voicemail.
And this is a listener we helped earlier this year with a money question about whether they
should dump their family's financial advisor and take control of their investments.
My name is Melissa, and I am based in Denver and my 2023 money win
is moving my Roth IRA account out from under the purview of a pricey financial advisor
and into an account where I could manage it on my own, select the mutual funds and exchange
traded funds I would like for little to no fees, no transaction fees, and overall have more control
over the future of this account. I don't know about you, Sean, but I like to be in control.
Yeah, I would have to agree, especially control over something as important as your retirement
investments. So good for you, Melissa. You will not miss those fees, I'll tell you that.
And here's hoping that your portfolio performs better under your management than your previous advisors. All right, on to the next voicemail.
Hi, my name is Natalie Bernier. And I was just listening to this recent podcast episode. And I
would like to share some of my financial wins of this year. So since turning 18 this year, I was able to get a credit card.
And then later on about like during this time, I was able to get a second credit card. And not only
that, but I started focusing on my future goals, which one of them is to retire in another country. So I decided to open a Roth IRA with Fidelity.
It's a robo-advisor because I would like to do my own research, but I also want the
robo-advisor to do it for me.
So I'm just setting up money biweekly when I get paid so that they can do it for me.
But at the same time i'm also
interested in learning more about the start market stock market so yeah those are my financial wins
of this year and i just want to say i love your podcast so much and i can't wait to listen for
more next year have a great 2024 guys i love Bye. And we love you too, Natalie.
And you are off to such an amazing start in your financial life.
Keep going and let us know how you're doing.
Up next is a voice memo from Max, another listener we talked with on the podcast this year.
When we spoke, he was deciding what to do with a roughly $100,000 windfall he was coming into after a divorce.
I ended up taking your guys' advice and using the money for a lot of different things. $100,000 wind a car. I know I
shouldn't have, but with car prices what they were at the beginning of the year, I didn't want a
large payment. I paid off all of my debts besides student loans and put six months worth of bills
in a savings account to have as a buffer in an emergency savings. Even after all that, I've got
about $8,000 that I still haven't decided on what to do with, I might take that big trip we talked about on your show because, you know, YOLO. YOLO. YOLO. Especially when you're doing such good, smart stuff with your money.
You deserve a little YOLO. Max, take that trip. Really very impressive what you've been able to do.
So enjoy yourself. It's okay. That's our advice. So Sean, who's up next? Well, I got a bunch of fun responses when I put out a call on Instagram.
Want to go through those with me?
Absolutely.
Okay, here we go.
From Kyle T.
Paid off my student loans and was able to pay cash for a car after an accident with
the payoff amount after it was totaled.
I was lucky enough to be able to put away what would have been my monthly payments during
the pause into a high yield savings account. When the pause ended, I had enough to be able to put away what would have been my monthly payments during the pause into a high-yield savings account.
When the pause ended, I had enough to pay off my loan balance.
Love the podcast. Thanks for all you do.
Appreciate having someone like me sharing advice on these topics.
From Taryn.
Got around to setting up and maximizing a Roth IRA for my spouse and myself.
Started maximizing my 401k.
Started investing into Vanguard index funds,
and got into churning using bank joining bonuses. Liza Y. says, I changed companies and finally
qualified for an HSA. So nerdy, but I'm so excited to max it out. Josh J. writes, we started to cash
flow positively every month instead of sliding a little further into credit card debt every month like we'd been for years. It has been hard fought to get there with chronic
illness, job loss, a new baby and other factors, but we are so relieved to see our balances go down
instead of up every month. And here are a couple of short and sweet responses from Miriam started
a business and from Sarah are hired an advisor, still mildly skeptical,
but I can't do it all. Hey, wait, Sarah is Sarah. Are you? No, Sean, I didn't feel the need to write
to you on Instagram because I could just send you a Slack message like a normal person. But
I do agree that we can't do it all by ourselves. So bravo to the other Sarah R. Sarah R's unite.
And I kind of love how these messages hit on a lot of the big financial areas we talk about all the time on the show.
Student loans, IRAs, HSAs, starting a business.
These are all huge things.
And I'm so proud of all of our listeners for just getting it all done.
Yes, all of these acronyms.
They're so exciting.
Okay, next we have a voicemail from Kim.
And she wrote to us first with a question
about managing money with ADHD.
And then her money win was connected to that.
With a recent diagnosis,
I have officially made a budget
and actually stuck to it for an entire month
and have lived well within my means for a whole 45 days now.
And in my world, that counts as a win.
So thanks again for all you guys do, and looking forward to hearing more soon. Thanks.
That is 100% a money win.
It would be a money win even if you did it for just a week, but 45 days is fantastic.
Yes, keep it up. Pretty soon it'll be 75 days and then 100 days,
and then it'll just become a part of who you are. And even if you mess up one day, it's okay,
because there are all the other days to do what you want. So good on you for working on something
that could conceivably benefit you for the rest of your life and take it step by step.
Okay, Sarah, we've gotten to the final listener money win for 2023. I would love
to do this every month because it's so cool to hear what people are doing. But for today,
Amy is here to finish out the episode. I'm grateful to your team for everything you've
taught me. Three things. I paid off my car this fall, all thanks to your information about a money market account.
So now that I have a high-yield savings money market account for my savings, my husband
and I put all of our savings into one basket.
We found out we have not only a nest egg but a little bit extra.
So that is fascinating for both of us.
We both grew up fairly, fairly poor.
So this feels really good.
But I was able to pay off my car literally two weeks ago.
And then the other exciting piece of news was that I got that money market account.
But now I actually understand exactly how my insurance works from like out-of-pocket versus co-pays and all of that.
So I believe I am ready to have my hips get replaced over the next year.
So I just wanted to say thank you, thank you, thank you.
Because of all of the hard work you do and all the information you give us,
I was able to not only pay off my car and start collecting more than enough egg,
but I feel pretty good going into the unknown of health with getting my hips replaced
so that I can start investing even more
in myself by walking again and hiking again and that kind of stuff. So really grateful to you guys.
Thanks again. Bye. Amy, that is amazing. Three cheers for you. Three cheers, 10 gold stars,
50 huzzahs. We are so proud of you. And we are grateful for you for sharing your successes with us.
And same with all of you who wrote in or left us voicemails. We truly do love each and every
one of you and your advice and comments are priceless. So thank you. Yes. Thank you all.
You make this job even more fun than it already is. All right, Sean, what's up for next week?
Episode two of our 2023 countdown?
Well, next week we are reaching back into the mailbag
for more from our listeners.
And this time it will be the comments they've left us
over the year about what they heard on the show.
Can't wait.
And that's it for this episode.
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