NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast - How should I spring-clean my finances?

Episode Date: April 20, 2020

Don’t stop with your closets. Spring cleaning your finances can be just as satisfying, not to mention more lucrative. Whip your budget into shape, check your credit and make sure your investments ar...e on track. As always, send us your money questions! Email podcast@nerdwallet.com or call or text the NerdHotline at 901-730-6373.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast, where we answer your money questions in 15 minutes or less. I'm your host, Sean Piles. And I'm Liz Weston. As always, be sure to send us your money questions. Call or text us at 901-730-6373. That's 901-730-NERD. Or email us at podcast at nerdwallet.com. You can also send your voice memos to that email address if that's easier for you. Let's get to this episode's question from Adriana. She says, I've been getting really into cleaning and simplifying my life doing the whole Marie Kondo thing. And now I'm wondering how I can do that with my finances. What do you think is the best way that I can spring clean and simplify my finances? Well, we all know that with my finances. What do you think is the best way that I can spring clean
Starting point is 00:00:45 and simplify my finances? Well, we all know that money sparks joy. And I think, Sean, you did an article about this a while ago, didn't you? I did. Yeah. And the whole Marie Kondo thing specifically, actually, is pretty popular, especially last spring. It was almost the height of that trend. And now she's selling random things. So she may not be the best guide for you to simplify your life and your money because she's trying to take it away from you. But I will say there is a benefit to just cleaning things out,
Starting point is 00:01:13 getting rid of the things that you don't need and just making sure that your finances are, as we talk about a lot here, reflecting your values and are also just easy to manage. So on this episode of the NerdWallet Smart Money Podcast, we're going to give you our favorite tips for spring cleaning and simplifying your finances. And we'll also talk about which parts of your financial life you might want to let collect a little bit of dust. Let's get to it. To start, there are a lot of different approaches
Starting point is 00:01:40 to spring cleaning or simplifying your finances, but I think it really makes sense to start with a clear understanding of your money. And to me, that means assessing your budget. That's something that a lot of folks say they roughly know, but if you're going to take the approach of looking at your finances, seeing what you do and don't want, your budget is really where it all happens. Well, I think everybody needs to be tracking their budget. They don't have to decide what to do with every penny or follow every penny, but you should have a general idea of where your money's going. So I think it's a really good idea to have some kind of app or system for seeing where
Starting point is 00:02:18 the money's going. Even if you're not doing that penny by penny thing, I really like at least once a year to sit down and do what a friend of mine calls a spending autopsy. So you're looking at where your money has been going and seeing if you want to make adjustments. Because where your money goes shows where your values are. And you want your money to be going towards what you really value, not mindless spending. That's where the spending autopsy can really help. And fortunately, now that everything is online, you can just log into all of your accounts,
Starting point is 00:02:46 pull up your bank statements, credit card statements over the past year, and just look through it. And you'll really probably have an eye-opening moment of how much you're spending online shopping, all these things that you might just be doing in the moment and not realizing that they're adding up to hundreds of dollars. And then you can assess, okay, do I want to keep spending my money in that way? Do I not want to? But one thing I think would help for folks who don't really have a good gauge on their
Starting point is 00:03:09 budget is using something we've recommended here before. The 50-30-20 budget, half your income goes towards needs like housing, medicine, things like that. 30% goes towards wants. And the final 20% is debt and savings. And that's just a really simple way to block out where your money's going. And then if you find that maybe your wants are closer to 40%, you can readjust that a little bit. But I think it's nice just to have some parameters here.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I think that really helps. And the nice thing about the 50-30-20 budget is it makes sense basically regardless of your income. One of the things that always frustrated me was before this system came about, people would say, well, how much should I spend on this? How much should I spend on that? And the reality was it really varies. It depends on your situation. When you start doing the 50-30-20 budget, though, you might notice that your must-haves, your needs, are way out of proportion. When we first started doing this, I think ours were like 75% or 80% of our after-tax income, which explained why it was hard to save money is because, you know, that was getting
Starting point is 00:04:09 crowded out. But when you do finally get your spending in those categories, get that in line with the 50-30-20, what you figure out is your life is more balanced. And if anything goes wrong, because you've shrunk your needs to 50% of your after-tax income, you can actually survive financial setbacks a lot easier. Right. And I think it's also good to keep in mind that these are guidelines. If you live in a really expensive city, you might realize that your rent alone is 50% of your income.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And you might not have a lot of say in that because that's where the jobs are. You know, it's hard to cut that cost and that's okay, but just readjust the other areas as well. So you get some sort of harmony and you get a balance here, but whatever balance works for you. Yeah. And I'd say if you were spending 50% of your after tax pay on rent, that is not sustainable in the longterm. So you might have to do that for a short period of time. But if that's going to continue, you might look at other places to live, other jobs, because if you continue with that, you are not going to have enough money left over to pay off your debt, to save for retirement,
Starting point is 00:05:15 to do all the things you need to do. Yeah. And that is exactly why my boyfriend and I moved to Portland, Oregon out of San Francisco, because we realized we could keep treading water forever, or we could move somewhere that was more in line with our budgets and our financial goals. So that's something to consider as well. Absolutely. I also wanted to put a pitch in here because one of the spring cleaning tasks I'm going to do is to look through our subscriptions. This is an area that's really, really grown in the last few years. And the last time I did this, I realized we had like, I think three or four music subscriptions. All this stuff needs to be looked years. And the last time I did this, I realized we had like, I think three or
Starting point is 00:05:45 four music subscriptions. All this stuff needs to be looked through. And am I getting my full value? Are we getting the full value out of this? Or could we drop it? Similar to that, I think it's worth noting or looking at your budget and finding the things that were maybe a trial period where it was a dollar for three months of one service. And then after that, now it's $8. And maybe you just didn't notice. Those things can kind of creep into your budget. And just snipping those out can free up some extra cash for things that you want to actually spend money on that you value. So once you have your budget sorted out, I think it's just a no brainer to look through your credit report. Because that's that, yes, we say you
Starting point is 00:06:25 should just do it every year, but it probably doesn't realistically happen. You can get it online for free and just look through it and make sure that everything on there is something that you recognize. If there are any accounts that are not yours, that can be a big red flag and you can dispute that and get it taken off and investigated. And if it's something that isn't yours, it's probably some sort of fraud and it might be bringing down your credit score. And so that is a really quick and easy way to get everything on your report to be accurate and then also bring your score up at the same time. Speaking of credit scores, it's a really good idea to be monitoring at least one credit score from a credit bureau. And you want to watch the same score from
Starting point is 00:07:02 the same bureau so that you can see changes over time. If your score should suddenly plunge, that lets you know that you need to pull your credit report, see what's going on, see what the problem is. You can also see it increasing over time, hopefully, and that can let you know that you're in a good position if you want to refinance a mortgage or get a car loan, something like that. So we highly recommend that you track at least one credit score from one credit bureau. One thing I want to get your thoughts on, Liz, is kind of at the intersection of examining your credit profile and maybe some of the old financial cobwebs that we mentioned earlier. And one thing that I've been trying to address and mull over is what to do with my old credit cards. I have this account I opened in college and I haven't touched it. I don't even
Starting point is 00:07:45 have a physical card for it, but I leave it open just because I want to have that history. I want to have the credit history that goes back a number of years. Do you think that it's worth leaving cards like that open or is it okay to close them? I've heard a lot of back and forth on this. Yeah. And actually we've done a really good job of terrifying people. It used to be that people thought erroneously that closing accounts could help their credit. You know, we know that's not true, but that myth persisted. Now, a lot more people know that generally speaking, you should keep accounts open, but they've gotten the idea that they can never close an account. In reality, you don't want to close accounts if you're going to be in the market for a major loan or, you know, you're going to be in the market for a major loan or you know
Starting point is 00:08:26 you're trying to improve your credit score because closing cards does not help but that doesn't mean you can never close a card so i do this whole thing every year this is so geeky but i actually go through each of my credit cards and i look at are they pulling their weight are they more than offsetting their annual fee? And is there a better card out there now? Because the terms and conditions and benefits of these cards change all the time. So if you have hung on to a card since college, which a lot of us do, that's probably not the best card for you anymore. I would say that there's probably going to be a better deal out there for you.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Now, in your case, you haven't had credit all that long. So I might be, especially if it doesn't charge an annual fee, I might be inclined to just keep that open, maybe use it, maybe put some sort of automatic payment on that and automatically have it paid off so that it's in constant use because that helps your score, but you're not carrying debt. You don't need to carry debt to have good credit scores. Yeah, that's also a pretty common myth. Yes, exactly. So is this card one that you pay an annual fee on? No, no. I mean, it was the only card I could qualify for as a lowly college student. And fortunately, there's no fee. It's just sitting there online, basically. Well, the age of your accounts is a minor part of your credit scores.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So I would think at this point, if you did close it, it wouldn't have a huge impact. But I kept my first card open for quite a while, just thinking it's benefiting me and it's not hurting me. So it's really up to you. But on the other hand, I have another card that I got a few years after college, a travel card that does have an annual fee of, I want to say around $100. And I pretty much completely stopped using that in favor of a cashback card. I've mentioned I'm a big fan of those. And I'm thinking that this might finally be the year where I just close that account because I've paid $200 at this point, just keeping this account open. And that's kind of sad to think about. What could I do with that $200? Not give it to a bank for a card I'm not even using.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I would recommend taking a look at all the benefits that the card offers, because you might be able to take advantage of those before the next annual fee comes due. If that makes sense. I've looked at a couple of my cards and realized we're going to cancel them. We know that we don't want them anymore. But they have benefits that I can take advantage of before I have to pay that annual fee again. So what I did was I went on my calendar and I put a note a month before the annual fee would be charged again, made a note to close that card. But in the meantime, I'm using those benefits. So I'm getting at least something back for the annual fees I put in. I'll have to look at that myself. Well, I'm wondering if there are any other key elements of spring cleaning or simplifying your finances
Starting point is 00:11:09 that you think we should convey. One has to do with investments. It used to be that part of my spring cleaning every year was rebalancing my investments. We don't have to do that anymore. Thank goodness. Now with your 401k, you probably have a life cycle fund, a target date retirement fund, something that will do all the heavy lifting for you. So if you don't know about rebalancing an asset allocation, basically asset allocation is how you've got your money divided up between stocks of different types and bonds of different types and cash. And you need to have an asset allocation that supports where you're going. So given how long you have until your goal, like retirement, and what your risk tolerance is, your asset allocation will reflect that.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Because the market changes all the time, those can get way out of whack. So the rebalancing idea was you're going to be looking at your asset allocation and getting it back to where it should be. Now all of that can be automated. And I'm a big fan of doing that. If you're really hands-on and want to do the, you know, rebalancing and you actually do it. Yeah. It takes a bit of work. It does. And a lot of people just ignore it, you know, and I did, that's sort of the cobbler's children with no shoes situation. I constantly ignored it. So I'm so glad now that it can be automated either through, like I said, a target date fund. If you use a robo advisor, those computer algorithms are constantly helping you rebalance
Starting point is 00:12:31 or using a financial planner is another way to do it. But you need to be taking a look at your investments and at least once a year, making sure that the asset allocation still makes sense. Investments are so easy to set and then completely forget about, but it's really worth checking in and making sure they're balanced properly. So Adriana, I hope this helps you simplify and organize your finances. And now let's get to our takeaway tips. First off, do a spending autopsy. Look at your budget, see where your money is going, and see if there's any adjustments that need to be made. Next up, take stock of your credit cards. If you find there are some accounts that you haven't used in a couple of years,
Starting point is 00:13:05 you might want to cancel those accounts just to simplify your finances. Finally, take a look at your investments. Make sure your asset allocation still makes sense and do some rebalancing if necessary or choose an automated solution that will do it for you. And that is all we have for this episode. Do you have a money question of your own? Turn to the nerds and call us or text us your questions at 901-730-6373. That's 901-730-NERD. You can also email us at podcast
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