NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 139. Updating The 2023 Draft Order + New Team Needs (Post-Divisional Round)

Episode Date: January 24, 2023

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers update the draft order following the Divisional Round with new picks and team needs for Bucs, Seahawks, Chargers, Ravens, Vikings, Jaguars, Giants, Cowboys, and Bills

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast in this episode we're taking a look at some of the recently relegated playoff teams who are now joining us in the draft conversation picks 19 through 28 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers all the way down to the Buffalo Bills we're talking about those teams that were recently eliminated what

their draft needs could be because honestly we haven't talked about these teams a lot we've been focusing a ton on the teams that are at the top of the draft but we decided we needed to give these teams some love so we're talking about how they got here in the draft order some draft needs they have a little bit of a free agency angle and then some potential prospects that could go along with where they're picking. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast.

I'm Trevor Sycamore. That is Connor Rogers. Joining you guys a little bit later than usual. Sorry for the tardiness. Had some things going on this weekend. Couldn't release the pod as early as we normally do. But we're here. We're here, baby. We're here to talk NFL football. Here to talk about the divisional round that we just saw this past weekend.

Plus give you guys some updated draft needs and maybe some projected players for some of the playoff teams that have already been eliminated to this point. Connor, how are we feeling today, my man? How was your weekend? I'm good. It was great. Got to just watch the games in any way I pleased. I didn't have to work this weekend. It felt great. Can't complain at all. The games were solid. We'll get into everything. I know you and I individually are more interested in the ripple effects, maybe for the teams that lost, especially some of the minor surprises.

But it was awesome, man. I'm doing good. And we are quickly approaching everybody being on the draft season bandwagon here. It's week by week, baby. We're building up the audience a little by little. Shout out to all you guys who have been watching the shows over the last i'll just say two to three weeks obviously like we love y'all that watch the show in the season as well trust me we're sending you guys

love as well but it just feels like we have gotten a ton of responses from the shows over the last two or three weeks and it's been so much fun for us to watch this little draft community grow and hear all the opinions of what you guys are saying as connor said as teams have kind of turned the page a little bit gone from regular season into draft season mode so that's been a lot of fun um what's up to everybody who might be tuning into us for the first time we're gonna have a fun show here for you you mentioned that we'll talk a little bit about the games i feel like this is probably the way to do it. Chiefs, Bengals, Niners, Eagles. That is the AFC and the NFC championship matchups. Connor, did the playoffs get it right? Did the tournament format get it right

with these four teams playing against each other in this manner to end up going to the Super Bowl? What do you think about these ones left? No doubt, no doubt. This is it right here. I mean, the NFC side couldn't be easier right i think everybody for a long time has known the eagles would be here and honestly it wasn't that much longer than us knowing the niners would be here as well the niners hit this stride at the end of

october where and i mean we preach it on the spot all the time. They're slow starters. It's what they are. It's bizarre. And then they hit the ground running because they have a coaching staff that can make adjustments better than really anybody in football for the most part during the season, no matter what's thrown at them, whether it's quarterback injuries, whether it's injuries on defense. And we ultimately felt pretty confident that these are the two teams that would be standing here. It's, I can't tell you that I thought it would be Brock Purdy under center for

the Niners, but they have found, they have found a way because people poked holes in a lot of the other teams on the NFC side, the Vikings, as many wins as they had had a lot of holes, the giants, great job by Brian Dable,

but you just knew that eventually they'd run out of gas because of talent. And then on the AFC side, I know some people listening will probably be maybe a little taken aback, but I think what you saw Sunday just showed you how much more of a complete team Cincinnati is than the Buffalo Bills. And it was all right there in front of you. The Bills were home. Buffalo has a lot of pride in the weather and the conditions and all those things.

But at the end of the day, Brian Callahan and Zach Taylor coached absolute circles around Leslie Frazier's defense. Absolutely. Coach circles around that entire Bills defense. Josh Allen's mistakes that have been a bit of an issue this year continued on in a way they are very reliant on Stefan Diggs. And when Diggs has a down game, they have a down offense for the most part. Their offensive line is very, very thin and not on par with a lot of the other top teams in football. Those are a really

good team. And Buffalo fans have a lot of pride in that team, and there's a lot to be very optimistic about with the Bills for a long time going forward. But I was always surprised how carried away things got with them being the undisputed Super Bowl favorites when you looked around the league in November and December, Cincinnati's front seven coming together, Burrow always being up for the big moment. We'll get into the Chiefs' Jacksonville,

but we kind of knew what would happen there. Jacksonville, very, very fun run. And they were playing with house money, so they have nothing to be ashamed of. But we know the powerhouse the Chiefs are. So, yeah, to be honest with you, Trevor, I don't even think it was close. I think these are the four teams.

And full transparency, remember the What Matters Most pod? I mean, I said I thought the Chiefs and the Bengals were in a totally Remember the what matters most pod. I mean, I said, I thought the chiefs and the Bengals were in a totally different atmosphere in the AFC. And it probably seemed jarring at the time, but the bills just had some holes, unfortunately that they couldn't come overcome this year.

Injuries included. I was somebody who I, in my final playoff prediction, I said that it would be bills chiefsChiefs in the AFC Championship. I said the Chiefs would win it. And the way that I've looked at the Bills is I feel as though the ceiling of the Bills and really just the overall makeup of the team made it this squad that you didn't want to bet against. You saw so many different flashes, certainly on the offensive side of the ball and the defensive line,

when everything was working there, you know, when the secondary was getting healthier, when they were coming together, like this just was a team that you didn't want to bet against. But as I sit here and I thought about that question as well, before the pod started, did the playoffs get it right? Yeah, they got it right. The Bengals are the better team. They are.

And I think that I kind of just let myself, when I was doing my playoff prediction, look got it right. The Bengals are the better team. They are. And I think that I kind of just let myself, when I was doing my playoff prediction, look at the Bills. And I agree with you. That doesn't mean that the Bills are not a good football team. They're a very good football team. And they're one of those a little bit too hot and cold of the teams in tier one, if you will. And you didn't really want to bet against them because of the highs that they had.

But Cincinnati is just consistently better i wish the game would have been cleaner from a weather perspective uh i know that we talk about some i don't i love it look i know and people people love the lore of the snow games and the rain games and the mud games sometimes, especially when the post season is on the line. Like it's these crazy conditions who can, you know, grab victory in these on less than ideal circumstances. Right. And a lot of people love to look back on those games and reminisce about those games. I'm, I'm kind of a wet blanket about it because when we get to the post season,

I want both teams to be, to be able to have a shot at showing what they do best outside of whether playing a role in it and it was in buffalo i agree with you they take pride in it uh they boast about it that it's their home turf that they're that they can deal with it better than other teams but cincinnati uh handled everything better in that game. And I do think that we got it right here. The NFC is the obvious one, but the AFC, I agree.

I think that's certainly the way that things played out. Cincinnati is absolutely one of the final two teams that should have been represented in the AFC. I don't know what's going to happen with this next game, man. I mean, I know it's in Kansas City, but like how healthy is my home's gonna be that's the variable that makes this game you can sit there with the adrenaline flowing and you you know you can get the painkillers in him and you can get him through a game but when you've

got to go to sleep the next night and when you've got to sit there look he's going to be doing treatment as much as humanly possible over the next six days but and Andrew Wiley and Orlando Brown Jr., man, they're two of the offensive tackles that have given up the most pressures so far this season. Andrew Wiley's given up 49, gave up 49 during the regular season, and Orlando Brown Jr. gave up 46. Both those numbers were top 10 in the NFL,

or bottom 10, however you want to look at it. Just saying, man. This game's going to get wild. The Beng level a jit shot to win this game and and repeat as afc as afc champion certainly uh since they've had the chief's number the last couple of times too so i agree with you i think the playoffs got it right they did and it's it kind of leads us in the conversation right as much as you know we're really excited for the AFC championship games. And there's a lot to talk about with those teams. I know a lot of you, probably at least 90% of you sitting here listening are here for the opposite

reason for what do the teams do that could knock it over the hump. And I look at the Cowboys and the bills as being in that bucket, right? I there's teams that overachieved this year, and they are in this conversation because this show is about team building. It will always be primarily about team building, and they have a lot of work to do as well. But Jacksonville and the Giants, it always felt like they were playing with house money,

where if they won, they're a Cinderella. If they lost in this round, are you upset as a fan? Of course you are. That's natural. But they still overachieved and punched so far above their weight class where the Cowboys, Trevor, seven divisional round losses in a row. It's an NFL record. I mean, if that's not unable to get over a hump, I don't know what is.

And the Bills, Bills fans, understandably, because they were fed this, it was Super Bowl this year. It wasn't make it back to the AFC title game. It wasn't win the AFC East again. It wasn't even make it to the Super Bowl. It was win your first Super Bowl title as a franchise. And

there's just no way around it. They are going to be going into next season with everybody wondering, are they better than the Bengals or the Chiefs? And what do they have to do to get better than the Bengals and the Chiefs? Because I'll say it right now, and I love Josh Allen. I love watching Josh Allen. Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes are better quarterbacks than Josh Allen

right now. They are. They are certainly better. I think better is a loaded word, but they certainly play to their potential more consistently i yeah that's a that's a very good way of putting it they do what they need to do whether it's throw for 400 yards one game or throw for 200 yards one game that's a really good point whatever the script is they play to the script

more consistently than Josh Allen does. And to be fair to Josh Allen, he doesn't have a T. Higgins as his number two. Gabe Davis. We'll talk about that. I know we're going to talk about that. That's where we have to go.

He doesn't have... Dorsey's been a nice story. Andy Reid's on another playing field. And obviously there'd be enemy on staff as well. I mean, like, like Dorsey seems to be fine and up and comer. I know they've been waiting for him to be that,

take that job over for a while. They have Joe Brady as the quarterback's coach, but I watched the structure of the bills offense. And I don't see the same structure that Cincinnati and Kansas City have as well. So I do want to take some of that off Josh Allen's shoulders, to be fair. Yeah, yeah. And I think that we'll get into that a little bit, too. We didn't do this as much last week. I think we mentioned where the teams were in the draft order after the Super Bowl wildcard round.

But we didn't really dive into what some of the draft needs were going to be and some potential draft targets for them so that's what the meat and cheese of this show is going to be about here and we'll start with 19 and we'll just work our way down with the teams that all the way got eliminated all the way to buffalo which is picking uh 27th right 27 28 28 uh so we'll go from 19 to 28 and we'll do some discussions about some team needs for uh for these teams because we also for a lot of these teams we haven't really touched on it throughout the season you know we've been focusing a lot a lot on the teams that are going to dominate the top of the draft so i think this will be good this will be new conversation for us we'll start with the tampa bay buccaneers um do you want to start with their team needs or do you want me to you i would like you to start with the

team needs especially your knowledge of the bucks is better than anybody's but i they are just such a variable because they're off season you can go like this if comes back and if he doesn't it could go like this and then right down the middle of the highway is their car or someone like that where you're like yeah we're trying to still no i'm just being honest go ahead though no i i completely agree with you did the what you have to say before you even have a conversation about the buccaneers is that they're in the offseason looks completely different whether or not tom brady doesn't comes back or not i don't think he comes back to tampa now i will say that i think the most likely destination for him is still San Francisco. I really do. And I think that Tampa might be second after San Francisco, but I think he's going to try to get out.

I really do. Like, I think he's, I think he's going to try to leave Byron left. Which is not the offensive coordinator there anymore. Clyde Christensen is not the quarterback coach anymore. A lot of other assistants got fired as well. Todd Bowles is still there as head coach. So there's a major, which is probably not a good thing i mean honestly like if you're tom brady you're like i'm gonna go back to todd bowles led team and obviously shown ever as a head coach i don't know the thing the

the part about tom brady and where you're predicting where he might go is i don't know what means the most to Tom Brady right now. Great question. Yeah. Is it where his kids are? Right? Like, seriously. Yeah, because I think his kids are on the East Coast, right?

Does he want to go all the way to the West Coast and live on the West Coast for most of the year? And I don't know how often he's going to be able to see his kids. Now, certainly, he's extremely rich, so, you know, fly in private or whatever, like get into the West Coast. I am not going to Google where do Tom Brady's kids live for this show. We're not doing that.

I believe they're all on the East Coast, right? Like that was the whole thing. I thought they were down in Florida. Yeah, down in Florida. But I don't know. Are his parents back home? I mean, they're older. That I don't know.

I don't know all those details there, but I think that that goes, like his proximity to family closes. Obviously, we know football-wise what is the most important to tom brady it's winning a super bowl he like you he has to go to a team that wants to win a super bowl that's why the raiders talk doesn't make any sense to me a lot of people going like oh yeah the raiders make a lot of sense for tom brady why because they have a quarterback situation that's open that's i mean that's not a prerequisite for tom brady the offensive line's terrible the defensive lines all over the place sure they have a good supporting cast when it comes to like pass catchers and a running back but like is that enough to win you're telling me that's enough to

win the super bowl he's he's gonna go to a team in the afc that doesn't have a good offensive line in front of him that doesn't have a good defense that has to play patrick holmes twice a year that has to play justin herbert twice a year that has to play Justin Herbert twice a year, that has to play, I don't know, maybe a Denver Broncos team that gets Sean Payton twice a year, and you're in the same conference with Josh Allen and Joe Burrow? How about this? No. He's not going to do that.

I would be floored if he went to the Raiders. Go ahead. How about the things that we know he doesn't care about right Tom Brady does not care about how much money he makes well sure yes Tom Brady yeah does it so that eliminates it's more than that it's not just a team that can pay him a lot it's also the fact that if you go play for the Raiders there's no state income tax so which yes he's playing for a team in Florida where there's no state income tax but but that's not a driving factor. Here's an example.

For Tyree Kill, that was basically the driving factor. It was, oh, I'll go to the Dolphins. I'll get all my money there. And I think he has a house in Miami, too. Exactly. It was just no-brainer for him. So, yeah, when you look at it, you're right, Trevor. The variables are what we don't know with Tom.

Is it just Super Bowl over everything? Is it I want to – is it – here's the thing we talk about sometimes. Is it the inner childhood dream of being the 49ers quarterback? Sure, right. Like there are weird things. It's not weird. It's not weird at all. I actually think it's very admirable for some guys to want to fulfill things

that meant something to them before they were ever established and that that could still be within him you never know 100 no it's 100 i didn't mean for this to devolve into a big tom brady conversation but it has to be one like you said you do have to mention it i think certainly if he doesn't come back you are contemplating maybe getting aggressive for a quarterback in this draft let's say that they won't though like let's say no matter what either they're playing kyle trask they're getting a veteran like a jimmy g or somebody and tom brady's there or not let's say the quarterback's not really in the conversation i think it has to be trenches no matter what this team's pass rush when shack barrett went out for the season was non-existent.

They had no one who could get after the passer. Now, Joe Tryon, Sho Yinka could give you some pressures, but he's not a sack guy yet. He doesn't know how to get around the edge or beat his offensive tackle quick enough in order to get quarterbacks down and get sacks. Shaq Barrett's the only one who was a sack master who actually knew how to get the quarterback down with the football. Vita Vea, obviously, a lot of pressures. Akeem Hicks, when he was out there, great interior presence. They did not have an edge rusher that could get to the quarterback. Zero pass rush whatsoever. So I think edge rusher has to be very high on

their list of guys that they would draft at 19. And then on the flip flip side with no Ali Marpet at left guard this year Donovan Smith once again got exposed a lot like he had in previous seasons you know when they had that Super Bowl season in 2020 and even last year in 2021 just while Marpet was there while that offensive line was good Donovan Smith all of a sudden became the quote-unquote weakest link on the offensive line if Donovan Smith's the weakest link that you have on the offensive line, you're doing okay. But if Donovan Smith's like the second best offensive lineman you have, that's not good.

That's not good at all. Without Allie Marpet next to him, I thought he got exposed. Obviously, they didn't really have an answer at left guard. So I think the left side of that offensive line also has, they got to have a conversation about upgrading, getting a starter in at left guard, getting a starter left tackle. So I just think trenches, no matter what for Tampa Bay, no matter who's a quarterback, they've got to fix that.

Without a doubt. Here's my question to you, Trevor. They've sunk two top 35 picks in the last two years on guys that are supposed to affect the quarterback try on shanka um and of course logan hall do you is there any scenario where they look at that and go well we're waiting for these guys to develop at this point i mean because those are those are significant investments yeah i haven't paid off yet yeah but like it could the the light could come on for try and show you because he has been getting absolutely and he has been getting better and and i do think that he could take a

leap next year which would be huge for them now hopefully get shackbarrett again back next year and so like maybe it just looks totally different if try and show you can take that next step but like logan hall logan hall was kind of like a tweener anyways. I always felt like Logan Hall was a really good draft pick for them as a rotational, versatile defensive lineman to be able to give them relief on the interior and on the edge. But I don't know if Logan Hall's this full-time starting difference maker for them. So the draft pick made sense if you thought you had a super bowl team and you were simply trying to extend that super bowl window with guys that you could

play in a variety of spots guys that could come in as a rotational player in a variety of different spots like whatever it is um but i just i don't know how much logan hall is actually going to be an impact player for them. Maybe he will find a home. Shoot. Maybe they are going to start putting him at edge rusher or something. And he looks absolutely fantastic. But his build and his just, I think the overall plan of like how you would use him,

how he would be clearly very effective in the NFL. I don't know if that's like major difference maker as a starter. So that's kind of how I look at that situation there there i think that you still have to go after defensive line if defensive line isn't what it's needed to be how about uh osiris torrence as an option for them in the first round if they decide to go offensive line so if they get ryan jensen fully healthy bag to start next season and you have osiris torrence ryan jensen and shack mason on the interior of your offensive line you're doing all right like you're doing you can run you can run some power you can yes you can you can run some power behind that offensive line so i uh i mean i think that that could be an option for

them i'm not so sure they're gonna pick a guard in the first round so yeah that's a big no for for some gms i just don't i just don't think it's gonna happen i think they'd probably go edge rusher if all things are equal all right want to go to seattle at 20 sure yeah you start you start this one tell me what you think fascinating because they are not really a new conversation because they hold the fifth pick in the draft which is the broncos trip uh pick that's true part of the rush trade but we still want to go over them because we don't talk about this scenario a lot seattle is a team that at number five you are going to consistently see front seven players uh mock to them they invested heavily on their offensive line last year.

They did a really, really good job developing those guys. Those tackles played at a high level right away. Kenneth Walker obviously running behind them. Seattle has a lot of promising aspects on offense right now, and we're assuming Gino Smith's going to be back in the fold. And then you get to 20, and it feels a little bit more of a wild card than number five because number five could be one of the top pass rushers we don't think Jalen Carter will be there but you never know if a bro Z gets in the combo we've talked about Tyree Wilson hell you could see Christian Gonzalez or Devon Witherspoon in that conversation but it feels very cut and dried is what I would say. At 20, it feels like the door is a little bit more open

for Seattle to move out of this pick, take the best player available. They are a team that actually got a lot of production out of the tight end position last year, and the tight end was such an integral part know integral part of the offense it was a very important part of the offense even though the noah fan acquisition might not have paid off in the way that you hoped for before will disley got hurt he's a guy that can make an impact as well they they value the tight end position is this where michael mayer's name starts in the

draft i would never rule something out like that, but I ultimately could see Seattle doubling up on defense in this draft. They have some questions on the back end, even with Jamal Adams returning. Sure, you like the promise of Tariq Woolen. Still think they need another corner. Still think they need more help with the front seven. Hell, Trevor, and I'm curious your thoughts on this. I know they took Boye Mafe in the top 45 last year, but they could even double up on defensive linemen, edge and interior in this first round. Yeah, that's what I have. When I look at their needs,

and five obviously is where you could dip into this as well, and I think that they will. It feels like defensive line makes the most sense at five, just because you're going to be able to get a major difference maker there whether it's you know a jaylen carter a will anderson or um a brian brazee maybe a miles murphy some somebody like that 20 i think you start to talk about corner getting a cb2 um a deontay banks a keely ringo like somebody like that somebody who could play somebody who you could play in press man on the outside i don't know what keely stock's gonna be at this point i know we talked about him as like we like him but at the same time you know the the drawbacks

for keely ringo were he feels out of control and it's a dangerous it's a that's a dangerous note in a scouting report for a corner you you know, especially when you're, especially when you're a press man guy. It's funny because Woolen was a little bit like that. They took Woolen in the fifth round. So it's not the same conversation. Sure. Sure. Woolen was a very technically messy corner.

Yes. But an all world athlete that had splash plays and they kind of were able to dial him in a little, not a little bit, a lot of bit. A lot, yeah. Maybe they're willing to take, maybe they're willing to take Kili Ringo, who's 6'2", 210, and can run in the 4'4 area. You never know. I think that he could be a guy that Seattle

would definitely have their eyes on. I look at, you know, pass rusher, that's why I know they took Boye Moffay, but, you know, maybe they want more of a heavy-handed pass rusher. but you know maybe they want more of a heavy-handed pass rusher you know they maybe maybe they want more of a five tech on the other side of things because they've got you chenna nwosu as well who's a little bit lighter of a pass rusher yeah great year for him mafe will kind of be able to play that same role or they could flip mafe to the other side but do they want two lighter faster pass rushers maybe they want a heavier

handed guy so i think that that goes into it there. We touched on corner. Wide receiver, I think, is also a decent need for them, right? Tyler Lockett ain't getting any younger. I don't think he's totally over the hill yet. I'm not saying that. He was great this year, but he is older. You're right. Lockett ain't getting any older.

The other wide receivers they have on the team, Marquise Goodwin, they have Dee Eskridge, but he just hasn't really worked out for them. Derek Young, I know they like his the team. Marquise Goodwin. They have Dee Eskridge, but I mean, he just hasn't really worked out for them. Derek Young. I know they like his athletic potential. They need a number three. They need a number three. I think they do it. I think they need a number three

who can be their number two when Tyler Lockett is done. Like, I don't think they need like just this specialized number three, maybe like a field stretcher or something like that. I think they need like just this specialized number three, maybe like a field stretcher or something like that. I think they need a, what are you saying? Jackson Smith and jig, but Oh, sure. Yeah. I mean, he could, he could,

he could certainly be a guy who you could draft as a three, very savvy wide receiver. You get them on the field, you get them a lot of production. And then it's a very easy transition to get back to get to, to get the tile locket spot and tile locket usage whenever that time comes so yeah i mean i think we see the seahawks needs similarly the only other one that i have on this list is quarterback depending on what you do with gino now i'm not somebody whose team like move on from gino or anything but even if they sign

gino smith what kind of deal are they signing him to they sign him to a two-year deal they sign Gino Smith, what kind of deal are they signing him to? They sign him to a two-year deal? They sign him to a three-year deal that's really technically a two-year deal with where the guarantees are? I mean, you could say the same thing about a four-year deal. Is it a four-year deal that, yeah, I mean, really, most of the money's in the first two years, so how much are you actually committing to the guy? If you only think he's going to be around for two years max,

are you drafting a quarterback at five? Are you drafting a quarterback at 20 are you drafting your quarterback at 20 like what are you doing so i just think just saying that's within the realm of possibility for the seahawks you have to talk about it drew locks a ufa so they don't have a backup going into next year so the roster is open to carry a backup i mean you could even look at 53 pick 53 and think you know is this a scenario where we consider taking a guy? Do we look in the third round, making sure they have their third round? Pick 84. Do you take Hendon Hooker at 84, a guy that you can fit into your system

and you think when he's healthy, he could be your long-term backup ready to take over for Geno? Something along those lines. I wish – this is kind of that scenario. I wish Penix was in the draft, not just because he plays for washington which is down the street in seattle but because i actually think his arm talent great i actually think his play style fits perfectly in the seattle offense um but yeah you're right gino's contract is a massive massive question because i i don't know man i i am just on the side of and i know you've leaned on,

you know, kind of with me on this as well. I think Gino Smith and Daniel Jones are getting a lot of money, dude. I really do. I just think they have the leverage. I don't think Giants ownership, and I'll save the Giants talk until we get there, or Seahawks management would,

you know, those two wouldn't allow those guys to leave and they'll go the extra mile to keep them because what is your alternative where you're picking there's no alternative free agency can get very very ugly and scary with how many teams need a guy i just go back to ryan tannahill's contract with the titans which reminder everybody was a four-year 118 million dollar contract um the cap hits are all over the place but the you know the annual average of that is is manageable in a sense uh 62 was fully guaranteed which isn't really that nuts i i wouldn't be shocked daniel jones and chino smith sniff around the tannahill deal is it a little high maybe i mean i do think they're getting i think they're getting more money than the public is willing to project.

But we shall see. What about the Chargers? Chargers are next because Miami doesn't have their pick. They forfeited their first-round pick. 21 is a forfeited selection, technically. Chargers at 22. What do you think about this group? What do you think their needs would be?

Oh, man. I mean, their defense actually started to get i was going to say get it together and then of course the way the season ended was not great but besides that at the end of the year it felt like for the chargers for so long were a team that needed some beef up front i thought and here's kind of the issue with them right jc jackson had a significant season ending injury he looked horrible before he got hurt. And he's on the books next year for a $17 million cap hit and $32 million in dead money if you cut him so you can't cut him.

You can't even consider cutting him until like two or three years from now. So where is he at? Do you need a corner because of that? I mean, these are the hard conversations that you have to ask. If you're looking at it and going, this guy, I don't know if he mailed it in when he got paid or he just stunk in our system or what the deal was and then got hurt. Well, that scares me. So I don't completely rule off corner here, Trevor. I think then you have the question with the Chargers, which this is probably more of a day two situation for them. Mike Williams and Keenan Allen get banged up and they need a third wide receiver. And I get people might like a Josh Palmer or Deandre Carter kind of players, but

it feels like they need that other target for Justin Herbert, where the offense isn't just Austin Eckler or Gerald Everett. They got a good year out of him, but I'm looking strictly at wide receiver, but I do think that's a thing that, that would ultimately get solved on, on day two. But if the charges are chargers are in this place at 22, where they sit there and go, wow, everybody has the same idea. They're all waiting till day two to get their wide receiver none have been taken as we sit here with the 21st pick of the draft do we take the best guy do we take jordan addison right at 21 because we think he could play the slot for us next year with keenan and mike on the team and then ultimately evolve and do a high-end number two for us down the road when

the money is off the books for one of those guys. The chargers are one of those teams that yes, they are a good team. Yes. They're an ascending team, but you can almost go any direction on the roster in this draft. They need somebody who's going to get them over the top. It sounds like, it sounds like the most obvious thing in the world,

but they are again, like kind of what you said, one of those teams were like, they're right there. They just need somebody to kind of like put them over the edge and I still think that this team desperately needs a deep threat wide receiver I don't know if you're gonna get one in this class Jalen Hyatt is somebody I like but I don't think Jalen Hyatt's like a guy that you would spend a first round pick on and if you are I think you're pigeonholing yourself into just simply telling him

to just run go balls all the time. Is that a first-round wide receiver that you want? I don't know. Probably not. But the Chargers desperately need some speed, especially when Guyton went out last year when he got hurt. They just have nobody. They had nobody that could stretch the field, even with Allen and Williams in there.

They need a field stretcher. They need a speed component in their offense. Certainly with Joe Lombardi gone now, you're hoping that the offense is a field stretcher. They need a speed component in their offense. Certainly with Joe Lombardi gone now, you're hoping that the offense is a little bit different. You're hoping that they get more of Justin Herbert's arm and he's pushing it a little bit further down the field. But I don't know where that speed comes from in this draft. Maybe it's a Jordan Addison.

Maybe it's more of a play like that. Because Jordan Addison can be a deep threat guy. We've seen him have a really high average depth of target throughout the last two years as a Belenikoff winner. And then what we've seen this last year from USC. So we know that Jordan Addison is capable of a really high target load and giving you a good return on investment.

But they still need speed at that wide receiver position. And it's just not a great class to need speed. The high end talent's not there. That's who. That's a good point. That's the thing. Yeah, I mean, you're right. The high end talent's not there yeah that's who it's a good point that's the thing yeah i mean like you're right the high end talent's definitely not there we've seen people say like a lot of teams are comfortable right now waiting for wide receiver on day two but

especially with athletes whether it's first round second round third round wherever it is there's just not a lot of premier athletes that are going to be able to separate for you and and and be that deep threat like it has been in other years past so we're not really seeing that there's not jalen waddle um you know obviously like henry ruggs situation ended tragically in so many ways but like even him was picked very high because of his speed what he was able to bring there and it's just those elements don't exist in this draft class it's not there this year like it has been in years past so i would love her at wide receiver i don't know if they're going to get one they definitely need more pass rushers as well kalil mac looked like the only

guy who could consistently collapse the pocket joey bosa was hurt most of the year and i think he'll be fine when he comes back next year i know a lot of chargers fans are freaking out about joey bosa not really giving them a lot of return on investment lately but he's still a really good edge rusher when he's healthy he just he just wasn't healthy this year so I'm not as worried there the only other position that I really bring up for the Chargers is linebacker Drew Tranquil said to hit free agency might not I don't know if he's going to be brought back or not but it just felt like the linebacker level in general a couple of those guys got banged up throughout the year and and they did not have the depth anyway.

So is this where a guy like a Trenton Simpson could potentially come off the board? A guy like a Drew Sanders could potentially come off the board? How much would they want to go into linebacker? Would they want to invest their first-round pick in a linebacker? Maybe not. Maybe they'll wait on it. That was just another position that when I was looking at their roster and potential needs, that was something that I saw there. So that's what I think with the Chargers. The two wide receivers that I think on day two, if they do go speed,

like you hinted at, you brought up Jalen Hyatt. We'll see where he comes off the board. And Cincinnati wide receiver Tyler Scott, he's been, I believe, laser-timed sub-4-3 and somebody that could absolutely fly. So we'll see. And one last note, I figured you'd appreciate this one. Top 10 quarterbacks in passing yards this year.

Mahomes at the top, then Herbert, Brady, Cousins, Burrow, Goff, Josh Allen, Geno Smith, Trevor Lawrence, Jalen Hurts. Yards per attempt. The only guy with a lower yards per attempt than herbert in that top 10 was tom brady who's almost 50 years old so they need to get a vertical passing threat and gear more towards with their new offensive coordinator a vertical passing attack that justin herbert should not be only just sitting behind tom brady and yards per attempt in the top 10 of passers that's

that can't happen. It's not close by the way. He's at 6.8. Everybody else besides Brady is above seven. So, all right. Keeping it moving from the chargers. We have the Baltimore Ravens who you want to talk about Tampa being

volatile in this. I don't even know where to go with the Ravens. I don't think the Ravens know where to go. No, look, I mean, if Lamar's not there anymore, the only thing that matters is quarterback, right? I mean, sure. You know, if Lamar is gone, they're sitting here at, what is it, 23, 24? The four-fitting pick slot's screwing you up.

They pick 22nd overall they're here's a question sorry can i ask you something they're screwed if they if they move on from lamar or if lamar moves on from that they're screwed let me ask you this okay go ahead the draft is on television this year yeah do they get to pick 21 for Miami and go, this pick is forfeited, and then put the Chargers on the clock at 22? So say the Chargers took Jordan Addison. Is Jordan Addison the 22nd overall pick in the draft, even though he's the 21st player taken?

Why am I getting that vibe? No, I think, yeah, he's the 22nd pick in the draft. Yes. That's draft. Yes. That's stupid. Correct. Because he's not the 22nd pick in the draft. Forfeited is not a player. It's not a selection.

It is now, brother. I don't know what to tell you. What happened when the Patriots had their... She had forfeited. What happened? I don't remember. What year was that? I don't remember. What year was that? I don't remember.

Patriots lose. I'll do the research and you keep talking. Okay, so Ravens. Obviously, quarterback becomes paramount for them if they lose Lamar. But let's just look at the roster kind of as it is. I see two major needs for them. Still needing a major difference maker at wide receiver. This is another team that I think could use a vertical field stretcher.

It's funny that they're picking back-to-back with the Los Angeles Chargers. A guy like Jalen Hyatt I think could be a really great use for them. I'd love to see him in this offense. They've got Mark Andrews as a guy who could win over the middle, short, intermediate. They also have Rashad Bateman, who I think could win at all three levels. But they really need somebody else who's very reliable. Maybe this is a Jordan maybe this is jordan addison spot but even with me saying that out loud are they going to pick a wide receiver

that's built the way that jordan addison is i don't know he's just smaller skinnier i don't i don't know if baltimore's going to invest first round pick in a wide receiver like that maybe they will i'm just not sure i'm just throwing this out there as questions i can't remember if baltimore has thresholds for their wide receivers or not but that's a question that you want answered and then corner corner uh kyle fuller marcus peters both them unrestricted free agents coming up and i think the corner all of a sudden becomes a major need for them so you could potentially see a keely ringo um god who else do we have uh rounding it out cam smith keely ringo dionte banks i'm looking at it looking at it now clark phillips cam smith God, who else do we have rounding it out? Cam Smith. Keith Ringo, Deontay Banks. I'm looking at it now.

Clark Phillips, Cam Smith, Emmanuel Forbes. Yeah, Forbes is their type. Any of these guys that I think could be on the board for the Ravens. All right, what happened? So while the selection was forfeited, they don't count the slot. So the Niners took Joshuaoshua garnett 28th and then the patriots forfeited the pick and then 29th was the cardinals taking robert camdici what a what a great back-to-back pick slot garnett forfeited and robert camdici so then the start of the second round is pick 32

correct yes so my fears are uh my fears are lifted okay um any other thoughts from the ravens before we move on no i mean the question i thought you brought up an interesting point about wide receiver because the whole thought always was with Greg Roman there, you know, they can run with the best of them, but they basically don't, at least we knew their needs a little more clear cut. The Ravens are a very fascinating team right now to try to figure out, and one we will update continuously throughout the offseason. Vikings. What do you think about the Vikings? They're picking next.

So Kirk Cousins is back because they got that Band-Aid extension done last year, which I know everybody's thinking of the last play, but overall they probably feel good about that rather than having to solve this quarterback situation now they have the band-aid on the deal adam the only i don't know how good you have you feel about it because the goal is to win a super bowl right yeah and i mean like i think that kirk cousins can absolutely win you the division i think that kirk cousins can absolutely get you to the nfc championship i don't think the kirk cousins is a super bowl quarterback so i don't care i feel like you i feel like maybe i don't really know how vikings fans feel about it you you guys if we got any vikings fans listen to this podcast let us know because i don't think either connor or i think the kirk cousins is a bad quarterback. And in fact, I echo what Connor said.

This was a good year from Kirk Cousins. But like, he's not going to win a Super Bowl. I just don't think it's going to happen. I don't think he's that caliber of a quarterback. So are you like upset? Like, do you just think that your team's in purgatory? Where are you right now with Kirk Cousins? I'd love to hear that.

I don't mean to devolve this podcast into a Kirk Cousins debate, but I just wanted to say that because it popped into my head. No, it's fair. And while Kirk Cousins isn't always the most inspiring quarterback in the league, here's the reality with the Vikings. Their defense sucked. It was horrific. They got shredded by Daniel Jones in the playoffs.

And quite frankly frankly one of my last reminders is if braxton barrios just catches the ball they also got shredded by mike white at the end of the game so like bad not it's not fair to call daniel jones a bad quarterback quarterbacks that you should be handling your business against took care of this defense this year so i lean defense with them so darius smith uh has already begun the wiping of the Instagram, as we sit here and record. They can get out of a $17 million cap hit from him next year and only take on $3.3 million in dead money.

They still have Daniel Hunter, who's a stud. But man, I look at pass rush again if that's what's going to happen. And this is a good draft class for pass rush. They're picking at 24. Is this kind of that range where you think of Lucas Van Ness? Is this kind of a range where you want a bigger guy? Keon White sneaks into the conversation. I think that they have to be thinking pass rush here, Trevor.

And this is maybe even a slot that I don't know what somebody would be coming up for. But I think the tier of pass rusher wouldn't be that different if you just ultimately moved out of the first round and to the top of the second as well. Yeah, Dalvin Tomlinson is an unrestricted free agent, too. You know, that's a big one. What are you going to do with him? And he's a pretty big presence. They got Jordan Phillips, I believe, still. Let me double check that just so I'm not lying.

Tomlinson was on a two-year $21 million deal. And admittedly, I saw a lot of him last year. I didn't see enough of him this year. Oh, they do have Kairi Stonga. They do, yes. I like Kairi Stonga.'s but still beefing up the d line yeah here's where my thought goes right and depending on what they do with tomlinson they might switch up whether they're running an odd front or an even front it's a good point um they

also could take another corner because yeah they can certainly take another corner not great there dude i look at linebacker too like you can move on from eric kendricks and save a lot of money i think kendricks could be gone as they move on for stuff like you mentioned darius smith could be gone as well jordan hicks their other linebacker could be gone too like linebacker defense could look entirely different yeah linebacker i think this pick has to be on defense for as much as i also look at wide receiver and say like, all right, you could probably use a better wide receiver too. You're probably moving on from Adam Thielen or phasing them out more. I don't know. Why not elevate Osborne's role a little bit?

I think you'll get more work, but who's, then who's, I guess, Hawkinson. I guess you have Hawkinson for that reason. I was about to say like if you're in 11 personnel what are you gonna do but i feel like they can live in a world where they're utilizing tight end is wide receiver three as well for especially as much as they leaned on hawkinson in the postseason so maybe maybe wide receiver isn't something they're gonna even think about touching in the first round maybe it's got to be all defense so i agree with you i

think defensive line pass rusher it's got to be there and then linebacker too like if they lose hicks and kendrick's it's brian asamoah troy die i don't even like i don't even i don't even i don't even know who lb2 on this team is so i think linebacker all of a sudden becomes a major need for them if they end up moving on from their two veterans so yeah that's kind of how i see minnesota makes you think as we talked about both needs trenton simpson a guy that can maybe rush a little bit for you sure but play off the ball with a lot of athleticism in space. So the Vikings, we're definitely leaning towards defense. The next team, and this is the divisional round losers. What we just recapped were the losers from the wildcard round. The divisional round losers starts with Jacksonville at 25.

What a turnaround for Jacksonville this season after a disastrous year with Urban Meyer. Doug Peterson comes in. They get off to the slow start. They turn around trevor lawrence finishes the year strong and this is a team that a lot of things are going in the right direction for jacksonville but ultimately uh they still have some key needs here they do have calvin ridley returning to the team or joining the team next year? Joining the team. Joining the team. He's never been a part of the team. I thought Walker Little flashed when he had to come in.

When can he actually be in Jacksonville? Probably the new league year. Like March? Yeah, when they turn it over. Yeah, officially when the league year's over. Evan Ingram was on a one-year deal. He was a big part of their offense, so they'll have to figure that out. Zay Jones and Christian Kirk looked like really good additions.

Trevor, where do you kind of look at this team and go, man, this is the area where they want to start running with the big dogs, the Bengals, the Chiefs, the Bills. They have to be better here. And I didn't realize... I didn't realize the Jags have, like, no cap space. You know what's funny?

Not a lot of teams do. It's an ugly cap year. They're at negative 23 million in effective cap space for 2023. How did they even get? Oh, well, they did have some crazy deals. They signed a lot of people last year. Yep. Yeah.

I'll pull up their easy cuts. Okay, like, certainly CB2. yeah i'll pull up their easy cuts i certainly okay like certainly c cb2 cb2 is is massive on the opposite side of of tyson campbell i think that that's an area that they could that they could upgrade and they could improve their defense in that regard if they want to i don't know what's going to happen at tight end because evan inger signed a one-year nine million dollar deal and i think evan inger would like to come back i at least that's the vibe that i get evan inger would like to come back i think the jags would certainly like him to come back. At least that's the vibe that I get. Evan Ingram would like to come back. I think the Jags would certainly like him to come back. He was a much bigger part of their passing attack

than I feel like most people were projecting. But, like, can they bring him back? Because he had a really good year. Did he have a career year? I would think he came close. Yeah, let me look at some of his stats here. He had 766 yards, four touchdowns, 73 catches. So he had career high in. He had 766 yards, four touchdowns, 73 catches.

So he had career-high in catches, career-high in yards, and second-most touchdowns that he's had in a single season. So this guy's going to be able to cash out a little bit more. Say what, Doug? He was 28 years old, about 29 next year. He'd love to be in Jacksonville. What if they can't bring him back? If they can't bring him back, then all of a sudden, tight end starts to become a major priority and this might be you know back into the

first round maybe this is a potential target for a darnell washington or a michael mayer right depending on who comes off the board because i think offensive tackle also something you got to think about is juwan taylor going to be able to be brought back because he played better i thought this year so i know that they want to bring him back they want to prioritize the offensive line they want to make things good for uh good for trevor standing back there make sure that uh chemistry along the offensive line or deficiencies along the offensive line aren't a big worry so tight end especially a guy like darnell washington we talked about him as like a sixth offensive tackle that could come into play like yeah that means that you don't have

to resign evan ingram it means you could help out the offensive line as well so that's where that's where i'm kind of looking with jacksville cb2 um tight end and offensive tackle are the areas specifically right tackle which one taylor are the areas where i would look for jacksville to improve yeah i mean looking at their cap it looks like the crypto guy did this this these books i, they don't really have a lot of space. You said the crypto guy. The crypto man. Tom Brady's crypto man. So Shaq Griffin will be let go.

Hey, hey, hey, don't, don't put that. Don't put that on top. It's not his fault, but. I'm just kidding. Put it all on top. It's all on Tom. So Shaq Griffin will be let go. Wait, hold on. You can't talk crap about crypto because we have a bunch of people

talk about crypto in the comments. They are our most consistent commenters. Sometimes they'll even get 33 replies on one comment. It's like its own forum. It's like Reddit under the YouTube comments for stock exchange. Great out. You're right. I apologize. One of these times I am going to be the first comment that we have on our YouTube video. And I'm just going to be the one who writes out like, you know, I never really believed in crypto. You know, and then I found this. And it's just, you know, I'll start the bot thread. Twitter's gotten hit bad too lately.

Every time I tweet something, it's like, did anybody know where the link is for this? And then like an auto, a bot auto replies. It's really fun. Good times. So Jacksonville real quick. They'll probably move on from Shaq Griffin who was on IR. They'll save 13.1 million there.

There's not a lot of room here. I mean, there's really not. Roy Roberts and Harris, they'll save $13.1 million there. There's not a lot of room here. I mean, there's really not. Roy Roberts and Harris, they could save almost $8 million. And they'll be dead money. But he's good. Right? Yeah, no. I know, but they don't really have a choice.

I guess restructure is where this comes into play. Just extend Trevor Lawrence now. Yeah. The Cba wouldn't even let him oh can they not do that can you not like do it that quick no you have to have three accrued years yeah i know i know it's you're actually like yeah so tough so yeah they'll have to make some moves to get under and bring some guys back but jacks were excited about where they can go and what they can do with this offseason the new york giants at 26 i think if you showed somebody i think if you showed somebody tankathon today but back in august they would point at the giants at 26 the 25th overall pick as the biggest surprise on this list.

And you were shouting from the rooftops one position. It's wide receiver. That's it. That's it. You're right. That's it. There's really just no way around it. Just draft a wide receiver.

I mean, draft multiple wide receivers. Yeah, this is where you take the best one available here. Now, look, shout out to Isaiah Hodgins, man. No doubt. Richie James. Shout out to Rich James. Shout out to Darius Slayton. But Darius Slayton's a free agent,

so he might not even be back, right? Yeah. I don't think he would stay. He might. What's the Giants' cap space? What's their effective cap space? If I was Darius Slayton, I would go somewhere that's going to use me as a vertical threat.

Giants have the third most effective cap space in the NFL. But keep in mind, two guys not under contract. Daniel Jones and Saquon. Oh, sure, and Saquon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's a good point, too. But look, it's wide receiver. Wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. Draft Jordan Addison in the first round Jordan draft Parker Washington

in the second round draft um I don't know Xavier Hutchinson in the third round like just they're gonna put a lot on Wandale next year whoa yeah and like why I think I think Wandale has has some talent I think that he could be he could definitely be effective I also like Sterling Shling shepherd but it's just like injuries now at this point in his career i don't know yeah how much you can rely on them but you need a potential wide receiver one wide receiver two it's not the best draft i understand that it is not a star studded at the top with wide receivers the first round is not going to be littered with all these wide receivers that you're going to see like we saw this year with drake one and chris olave and gary wilson and uh you don't even flash to jameson williams like those guys it's it's it's not going to see like we saw this year with Drake one and a Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson and uh you don't even flash to Jameson Williams like those guys it's it's it's

not going to be that situation but you've got to take a stab at at least a guy who could be a wide receiver two for you somebody who could be a major difference maker maybe you go out and you you get your major wide receiver one in next year's draft or something like that wide receiver is always something that you can get year after year, but it's got to be more talented of a group than it was this year. Plain and simple. And I'll say this. I mean,

you can't be starting Jalen Smith next to Gerard Davis in 2023. It's the worst linebacker duo in football. It really is. And great Madden duo though. Cause they got speed you know don't have to you know i haven't given that anymore yeah i look you just look it's all you got to do just keep the speed up you don't even you get to ignore linebacker when you're doing a fantasy draft until much later in the draft and then you just draft the two fast guys

and you turn injuries off you know it's true you're absolutely right yeah but in real life but in real life this was a bad bad group i think the giants will be taking a linebacker with one of their first three picks in this draft got to help wink in the middle of the field they'll have big expectations for that front next year dexter lawrence one of the best interior defensive linemen in football known for a big leap for cave onon Thibodeau next year. They're an interesting team, the Giants. They need help at corner, but they could use another corner. This offensive line is still growing.

You were right. They've got to get a wide receiver. They have a lot of needs. A lot of needs. Well-coached football team, though, that can, when you're that well-coached, you can get something out of fourth and fifth round picks as serviceable players. So that'll help the Giants with all their needs.

Cowboys. Cowboys are next on this list. Oh, buddy. I don't know if Cowboys fans are consuming content yet, but we're going to do it. They always got to consume content. You got to turn the page. Sure.

Well, whenever they do turn the page, whenever they do decide on taking in content for the draft, guess who's going to be there for them? We are. It's like an alarm clock, too. Arms wide open. It goes off the same time every year. Big old hug.

Divisional round's over. Draft season starts. I think for the Cowboys, CB2 opposite Trayvon Diggs, I definitely think is something that they need an upgrade with in their secondary that's an area of the team that i could see them really prioritizing at the back end of this draft especially if a good one of these corners falls and and there's a lot of corners to choose from so maybe this could be a sweet spot where they get in on that that run tight end i mean daltonultz, a free agent this year. I think he was the second. I think he was behind CD lamb for, he had to be the most receiving yards.

Let me look. Yeah, he had to be, he had 577, but it felt, it definitely felt that way. Where are we here? 577. He was number two on the team behind only CD lamb who had Lamb, who had CeeDee Lamb had 1359. And then it was Dalton Schultz. And then it was Noah Brown. Then it was Michael Gallup. So I know that they have Peyton Hendershot. They have Jake Ferguson.

But if Schultz ends up walking, you know, Michael Mayer, maybe Darnell Washington, we brought them up already. I also think that Dalton Kincaid could be really great for the Cowboys, but don't need I don't think you need to draft him at the back end of the first round I think you could probably get him somewhere in the second round so I think tight end is it is a legitimate upgrade possibility for the Cowboys um and then I also have wide receiver depending on what happens with running back like can they finally get out of Zeke's contract they can here's the question they actually do it for so many years I looked up Ezekiel Like, can they finally get out of Zeke's contract? They can. Here's the question.

Oh, man. Can they actually do it? For so many years, I looked up Ezekiel Elliott's contract, and I was just like, okay, well, I mean, they can't get out of it. I mean, it's not even really great, though, by the way. Holy cow, it's not. It's not great, but they can still do it. They get 11 mil dead money, but they save four. 4.8. Almost five, yeah. Yeah, almost five. But it's almost mil dead money, but they save four. 4.8.

Almost five, yeah. Yeah, almost five. But it's almost 12 dead money. But it's almost 12 in dead money, yeah. He's going to get restructured. I bet on it. Dude, what was this contract, man? Oh.

An all-timer. Dude, his stats stonk down the end, too. I mean, he's just not the same guy no clearly he uh compared to what he's paid okay zeke zeke did not rush for 100 yards all year i'm not surprised his his rushing total his high in rushing yards was 92 against the Giants in Week 12. He had one other game in which he rushed for over 80 yards and lost to Philly. He rushed for 81 yards.

Last four games of the season, including the playoffs, he rushed for 37 yards on 19 carries, 10 yards on 8 carries, 27 yards on 13 carries, 10 yards on 8 carries, 27 yards on 13 carries, 26 yards on 10 carries. That's a 1.9, 1.2, 2.0, 2.6 yards per attempt average. It ain't

getting prettier, folks. Career lows. Yeah. Career lows in rushing yards. Keep in mind in 2017 he played 10 games and he had more rushing yards than this year where he played 15 career lows in rushing yards career lows in first downs yards per attempt 3.8 yards per game, 58.4, and receiving yards as well.

Targets, catches, receiving yards, receiving yards for reception, complete non-factor. And then you have Tony Pollard who, you know, rooting for his recovery from injury, but I think he had the highest explosive play rate per touch. I want to say for guys qualified or at least near the top. So that, that's a big B John B John Robinson is what I'm hearing. I mean, would you be shocked? They just cut Z.

I would actually, you know, I walk, I don't think B John's on the board at this point, but I will also say that I wouldn't be shocked if they, if Jerry Jones is like, yeah, go get your mirror Gibbs. Go get your mirror Gibbs. Go up and round two. No, I'm saying like at the back end of the first round. What do you mean, brother?

What are you making that face for? We cover the draft. it's really the i don't like this tweet because i'm in it oh no it's true cowboys fans drop the corner drop the corner do the right thing. And you're right. Wide receiver just... You felt Amari Cooper's departure this year. You really, really did. It was all CD dependent. Gallup was okay. Not great.

Just okay. T.Y. Hilton's out there playing snaps. What are we doing? They'll drop the crap out of Michael Mayer if he's still on the board. I am very bullish on jake ferguson in the dalton schultz role okay i don't know if they are but i am as somebody who has dynasty shares all right buffalo bills uh last team last team the buffalo bills maybe the uh do i call them are they the biggest disappointment so far? No.

Who do you think was more disappointing? There's no way. I'm not going to agree with that. No, I should rephrase that. Not on the season. I mean in the playoffs. I think Minnesota was a massive disappointment, if I'm going to be honest with you.

I didn't even pick them to win that game. I didn't either, but still. See? I mean, I did. Okay. All right. Well, you go 13-4, man. You go 13-4, you're hosting a playoff game.

And you lose to the Giants, who are supposed to be rebuilding. It's pretty bad. And you lose to the Giants, who are supposed to be rebuilding by throwing it six yards short of the sticks on fourth and eight. How about the Chargers blowing a 27-0 lead? Obviously, the Chargers are... All right, so the Bills, sorry, it was a little harsh. You're not the biggest disappointment,

but we all know that you are... You know, they won seven, and they don't make it back because they lose in the divisional round. And they have needs. The Bills, for as good as they are, Trevor, have significant needs. I think it's safe to say Gabe Davis did not live up to being their second wide receiver, and they cannot go into next year.

Hell, would you be shocked if this is the team that trades for DeAndre Hopkins if they can make the money part work? Because I wouldn't. Oh, that would be great. That's absolutely what Buffalo should do. I agree. I mean, I have wide receiver as my, well, I have wide receiver as one of the top needs for them.

I also have offensive line. Here's a stat. Oh man, who did I get this from? I want to credit who I got this from. Well, you could do that. I have two things to read off while you look. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. Important to note with the Bills here is that, you know,

they've kind of been playing with very low cap hits for the last two years with Josh Allen and Stephon Diggs. Those cap hits finally go up. Josh Allen will be hovering close to a $40 million cap hit next year. Stephon Diggs will be hovering at a cap hit over $20 million next year. So the Bills are going to have to be a little bit more tight with how they allocate their money because they've been able to keep the cap hits for those two superstars very low and that will significantly go up and it's going to create

interesting decisions for them as they deal with key free agents like jordan poyer who's been excellent for that team for a long time of course tremaine Edmonds in the middle of the field for them. So the Bills have massive decisions that are internal before they even get to their external options. Okay, so this is from Zebra Sports. Josh Allen was blitzed on 52.2% of his dropbacks. His highest rate faced since week 14 of 2020. And he faced a career high 47.8% pressure rate against Miami.

That wasn't this past weekend. That was against the Miami Dolphins. It's got to be better up front. And I think that, I guess I should say, that to me says two different things. One, you got to get a quick game wide receiver. You got to get a Josh Downs. You got to get a Jaskin Smith and Jigba.

You got to get a Zay Flowers. Can Shaq Kirby that or no? In year two? Yeah, I mean, so I like Kalusha Keir, and I suppose he can be. I just didn't, I mean, I don't think he's like this all-world, yards-after-catch kind of an athlete, like maybe some of those other wide, well, I just called him all-world. To answer your question, yes.

I guess I didn't really think of Kalusha Keir as potentially filling that role. Maybe he can, but whoever it is, whether they're getting somebody in the draft, whether it's Kholoshekir, you need a quick game guy. You've got to get somebody to where when the defense is clearly allocating extra blitzes towards the pocket, you go, all right, this guy's coming across the middle of the field. Like we're running more mesh stuff. We're running more quick game. I'm getting the ball in this guy's hand. And Allen's able to diagnose that. Help out your offensive line a little bit by getting an offensive weapon who can really put a hurtin' on the defense

when they take guys from coverage and bring them at the line of scrimmage. Also, improve the offensive line. I think interior offensive line's an area that they definitely need to improve on. And I just think offensive line in general, it's gotta be better in Buffalo. So the guys up front, I think I read a stat that said,

I think Dan Orlovsky might've tweeted this. The Bills had 14 snaps out of the shotgun in which they ran the ball against the Bengals and got one yard. Like, it's just gotta be better. Like, you gotta be better. Don't do that anymore. Well, sure.

But like, and if you're going to, it's just got to be a lot better up front. So if that's the way you want to run things, you just got to be better up front. And I think that that's where a decent amount of, because the margin for error, like we started the show saying, the margin for error for the Bills is small, unfortunately. When you talk about going up against the Chiefs or the Bengals in the divisional round,

which they could very well be doing again next year, those teams are so good that if you are not up to par in the offensive line, if you are not able to run the football the way you need to, if you do not have the quick game weapons that can alleviate pressure on the pocket, sometimes it's the only difference that you need. And these other really good football teams are going to make you pay for it.

And I just think those are the areas in which Buffalo is deficient right now and where they need upgrades is wide receiver, offensive line, and then potentially running back as well, depending on what kind of running backs might be on the board. I'll go specific too. Spencer Brown is a weak link on that offensive line for me i would look at darnell right from tennessee i would look at dewan jones from ohio state i would look to upgrade right tackle um obviously roger saffold's a weakness at left

guard but i think they'll find a vet to step in there but you're right trevor o-line huge problem for them it's got to be better got to keep josh allen a little bit more upright and and kind of answer their laundry list of you know because i i sound so pessimistic when i talk about the bills but i don't evaluate them the same way as a lot of these teams when i talk about their needs i talk about the bills being super bowl ready or not with other teams it's taking steps forward with the bills i go this is what you got to do to win a Super Bowl. And if you're a Bills fan, and I know plenty of you think this way, it's probably the fan base outside of the Jets that I find myself closest with,

being here in New York and having a lot of mutual friends that cover that team. That's how they evaluate it. Like, this is what we need to do to win the Super Bowl, and anything less than that right now is a failure. And I applaud that and think that's how things should be viewed up there in Buffalo by this point. That's standard, man. It's such a difficult standard, but when you get there as a team,

it's tough. It's tough to operate that way. You're 100% right. It is. It's really tough. And, you know, Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott have their work cut out for them because every year that you have Super Bowl aspirations and you don't even make it there,

it makes it that much more difficult to keep the window open. And so this offseason is going to be massive for this team because if they have another year where they don't make the Super Bowl, I mean, the window might be closing, like if nothing else but for morale. Like you might, might i shoot we we not that i think that they're gonna like get rid of stephan diggs or anything but we saw the reports after the game where like stephan diggs basically just like try to get out of the stadium as fast

as possible like yeah he's just like he's done and stephan diggs two years ago had that image where he sat there and he stood and he watched the kansas city chiefs celebrate their victory over him it was almost like i'm gonna watch to watch this and I'm going to remember this and I'm going to come back next year. Well, now it's been two years since then. And Stephon Diggs is just like, he's fed up at this point. And I do think that Buffalo is now in kind of this danger zone where even if the contracts and the players don't necessarily say

that you're no longer in a winning window, if you lose this, if you cannot at least get there next year, you start to lose people. If nothing else, but because they're impatient. And is that fair? No. Having a team standard be win the Super Bowl or bust is never fair i just don't think not even for the chiefs like it's just it one franchise wins that every year to say that the window is open

is reasonable to say that you have a chance is reasonable to say winning super bowl or bust i always have such a hard time accepting that. But with Buffalo... We can lead to bad decisions. But with Buffalo not even making it over the last couple of years, if they go another year next year and don't make the Super Bowl, might be tough times at Buffalo ahead. It's just tough when those years come by.

Yeah, I mean, they're going to look around and go, what do we need to do to get over the hump? Because then you potentially start firing really good head coaches, really good office coordinators. Exactly, yes. Yeah, and it could just get ugly. Yeah, sometimes you just need to shake it up and get a – the message gets stale in places.

I'm not saying the message got stale in Buffalo. We're not even close, but you're right. If this happens again in a year then yes people will ask that question and it's justified yeah um we obviously talked about a lot of uh players today who could be joined in these teams if you want to get in on making some money investing in the stocks of these players once they get drafted you could do so thanks to our friends over at mojo mojo is the all-new sports stock market that lets you invest in your favorite athletes and cash in on your passions you can sign up right now in the apple app store and get your first player stock

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