NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 147. 2023 Combine Invite List Reveal (And Analysis)

Episode Date: February 13, 2023

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers go position-by-position revealing the official 2023 Combine invite list, and give you their prolific analysis for players they are looking forward to seeing most for different reasons

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast in this episode we're going through the entire official 2023 combine invite list and giving our thoughts on every single play okay you know we're not going to go through every single player but we are going to go through every single position and we're going to talk about what we think matters most from the

guys that were in for the guys that were invited and who we think needs to stand out in certain ways. What are the big storylines for every single position for the guys that were invited? Sometimes it's measurable. Sometimes it's athletic testing. Sometimes it's interviews and just Intel where the NFL is on these guys. Are they higher, lower than the consensus? We find a lot of things out at the combine. So it's a good conversation about every single position and a lot of guys

that we want to discuss I'm Trevor Sycamore with me as always is Connor Rogers let's ring the bell welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers joining you guys on the brand new YouTube channel. If you guys are watching on the new YouTube channel, we appreciate you guys already subscribing. We had over 500 people subscribe to the channel. Before we even put an episode up, Connor, these are diehard sex addicts out here. You guys are the best.

You guys are wonderful. So many different comments and people reaching out to us saying that they would absolutely follow us onto the new channel. I know it's confusing and I know it's some effort to go from one channel to the other. So for everybody who has subscribed already and hopefully to the people who are going to subscribe in the future, we appreciate you guys a lot. It means a ton to us. Connor, how are you feeling this morning? Great, man. Great, man. It's awesome to see that kind of support. And nothing surprises me anymore with the addicts. They are just an unbelievably loyal, loyal, loyal bunch. And for everybody that was a little

confused on finding the channel, sorry about that as well. It was, you know, it was there. It was missing for a little bit, then it was back. But it's here. We're here. And if you're listening on Spotify or Apple Podcasts and you are still a YouTube user, please do subscribe. It really helps us out, helps us out with the show so we can do more stuff like this. And, man, I'm excited for today because it's that time of year where the combine list comes out. And, listen, the combine doesn't necessarily tell you here's who's definitely going to be drafted. There are guys on this list that won't be drafted. There are snubs. Carl Brooks comes to mind.

Or if you want an example from last year, I think James Houston wasn't invited to the combine coming off a 16 and a half sack season in college and then was great for the lions. So it's not a perfect science. And that's not being Trevor's fault. That's the NFL and NFL scouting department's fault. So we won't take any of the blame there. Nothing's ever our fault. Nothing's ever our fault. We're not responsible for any misses on this podcast. But still really important to make sure, number one, you have all these guys on your draft tracker.

And for us to go through this list to kind of break down what we're interested in when the combine does arrive. Yeah. So what we're going to do today is we're going to, the official combine list is out. So we're going to go position by position and just kind of have an open conversation of, okay, I'm looking forward to seeing this guy at the combine for this reason. Could be measurables, could be a certain drill, could be the interview process or just the week in general, because the combine for as much as we love the testing parts of it, the measurable parts of it, it's those intangible or immeasurable parts of what we hear while we are in Indianapolis. Like we get a really good finger on the pulse

of what the NFL is believing about a certain player. We could go into a thing and, oh yeah, I mean, this guy's, you know, fourth, fifth round pick and he's going to be a nice mid-round guy. And all of a sudden you hear multiple scouts say, oh this is top 50 player you go okay now we've got to adjust things a little bit so we're going to be doing that for every single position um instead of us reading off every single name that there is uh our incredible producer ryan is going to put together a list of of all of the players from every position as we begin to talk about them.

So if you're watching on YouTube, you can see the full list there. And of course, this isn't just our podcast. We say it all the time. This is a community. This is you guys NFL draft talk as well. So as you see the players on the list, let us know in the comments who you are looking forward to seeing for whatever reason as we kind of go through this conversation. But if you're ready to get it going, we might as well just with quarterbacks now yeah i think i think we get right into it right this is always the group where you know everybody knows the household names and this conversation

trevor will start with bryce young's height and weight i mean let's just be real that's what everybody's going to be looking at with this career but it goes deeper than that when you have um you know smaller school guys or even like Tyson Begent who was at the senior bowl coming out of uh you know not a d1 program in Shepard and then you have guys like Tanner McKee who have kind of been forgotten about because he wasn't all-star game eligible so this is a good chance for him to get back on the scene and then of course all the buzz of how high can Anthony Richardson go it feels like the combine is an event built for Anthony Richardson.

So this is a very interesting group that has first round talent projected first round players. And of course those small school day, three dart throws as well. I got some good questions about the quarterback position. Can we just, can we have the over under discussion right now? Can we set it for Bryce Young, the over under? All right. So Alabama, we we're gonna do this right here on the show and i want i want people to comment on it as well and hit us up on what

they think whether it's over under alabama has bryce young listed at six feet tall no way 194 pounds i'm gonna set the over under at five, 10 and a half. Do you think he's over or under five, 10 and a half? Man, I think, I think that's the push.

I do. I do too. So you got it, but you got to go, you got to go. I'll go under. I'll say, I'll say he's five,

10 and a quarter. I'm going to say under two. I think that, I think five, 10 and a half is probably where he's going to, to, to measure in at, but stretch them out. If anything, gonna say under two i think that uh i think five ten and a half is probably where he's going to to measure in at but stretch him out if anything i think it's gonna be lower i think it's gonna be under five ten and a half so i'm gonna go i'm gonna go with under on that one for the weight

i was just gonna say over under 188 he'll he'll get over that for the combine because it's amazing what you can do with your body when you eat pizza. When you're training for an event like this and we know how dedicated of a guy he is, he'll get over that. What's more important to me, I know what he played at, so I don't really know if it means anything to me.

Personally, if he comes, like, yeah, great, you got your weight up for the combine. It's not, I just, this is not a guy to me that's going to be consistently playing at 215, okay? You know what he played at. Is it under 188? Yes. Yes.

I think 188. Allegedly. I'll say, I'm going to say under. I think 1-8. Allegedly. I'll say... I'm going to say under. At the combine. I think he comes in at like 1-86. He will not go number one overall, if that happens. Have we ever seen that?

I'm trying to think. Go to Mach... What did Kyler come in at? I know he was heavier than that. Yeah, Kyler was definitely heavier then. Once once again i hate the throwing to kyler and i just did what i hate because nobody nobody moves like kyler murray in terms of and now he's hurt so this is even dumber but to protect himself like kyler legitimately okay the smallest quarterback i didn't mean to cut you off sorry it's okay uh pat white is the

sixth lightest quarterback and he was 197 at the combine oh wow that surprised me diera king was 196 not a quarterback denica wallace was 196 okay i think i had a long career and the lightest quarterback that mock draftable has in their database is 192 pounds. Joe Hamilton at a Georgia tech in 2000, Joe Hamilton was five foot 10, one 92. That was the zeroth and zeroth percentile. I mean, Stetson Bennett's going to,

that's what, but that's what Bryce Young's going to be, right? I think he gets to the 190s for the combine. But that's what Joe Hamilton is here. Joe Hamilton's at 192, and he's still in the zeroth percentile. Yeah, Kyler was 207, by the way. Yeah, Kyler was 10. That's fine.

Kyler had some muscle. Like when you're 5'10 and an eighth, which is, this is where I think Bryce is. I think Bryce is 5'10 and an eighth, 5'10 and a quarter, and he'll be in the 190s. You're right, Trevor. We've never seen this.

And you and I both have him as QB1, so we're not. No question, QB1. That's thin to me. It's a different league right now. It really is. Where I think guys that scouted in the 90s the 2000s decade even 2010 like there's no way you could take someone like that oh no but this is a different game for quarterbacks i don't think

and i don't i don't mean this is a shot shot to Bryce at all. I think he is so talented. He is one of the best football players I've watched over the last couple of years. He gets this, this, this kid's game better than so many other people do. And I think that absolutely matters, especially for the quarterback position.

But if you fast, if you take, take us back 20 years, Bryce doesn't even get the chance to play. No, no, he doesn't get the chance. I mean, he'd be playing playing he'd be playing corner or he'd be playing wide receiver or something like he wouldn't even honestly probably like slot receiver he wouldn't grow up playing

quarterback he just wouldn't return man which is weird to think of Bryce is that because he's not even that electric dude look I'm gonna I'm gonna put it on his scouting report could play special teams could play kick return it just goes to show you. You know what? It's good that we're having this combo instead of us having to yell, why is Bryce Young not a top 10 pick? Yeah, I like this better. Yeah, I like this better.

But anyways, so that's what our over – I'm setting the over under at 188.5 for Bryce Young to measure in at, weight-wise, and then 510 and a half height wise under height overweight you guys tell me in the comments wow connor definitely not that out here but out here out here shaming this guy weight shaming um let us know where you are in the over under bryce young um measurement sweep. I'm going to go under on both. I really, I think he's going to be like 5'10", maybe 5'10 1⁄2". That's why I think it's a good number.

But then I think he's going to be like 186 sort of thing. I've looked at every like thing on Twitter, people posting pictures of him next to other people. Yeah. I've stood next to him. Oh, okay. So you should know this then. Why do you think I set the over-under at 5'10.5"?

Guess how tall I am. Yep. I'm 6'4", 240. That's what I, that's, no. Yeah, no, you are. You are, and you know, you were looking down on him. I mean, you know, if I wasn't 6'2", 240, hypothetically, let's say that I was 5'10.5", and I stood next to him, and we're about eye level.

That's kind of where I get the number. Okay. But I'm 6'4 to 40, so I mean, that's of course. Yeah, different scenario. Here's another question. Do we think Anthony Richardson does anything in Indianapolis? He should throw. He should throw.

Should he? Yes. He has everything to gain from throwing. Yeah, but... So I agree with you. Everybody kicks it to pro day. That's true. It's more comfortable. It's more scripted.

You're right. You're right. I like the confidence when guys go to the combine and throw, but I understand why they don't. It's not a good environment. For people that are that are like why wouldn't you throw it's a the way the combine's structured and it changes year to year you don't get a lot of sleep if you're a player you're not well rested you're tired you're in unfamiliar territory you're not always through like pro day everything's laid out. You could be like, I can get nine hours of sleep. I can wake up in my apartment, have my breakfast routine,

throw to guys I've been training with for a month. So I understand why you wouldn't throw at the combine. But the spectacle of it, that's why I bring it up. I agree with you. Right off the bat, I agree with you completely. If he could go out there and just absolutely rope it straight to these wide receivers and almost look like the best quarterback who's out there throwing that would do wonders for his style yeah but do you want a guy who is still

working on his accuracy accuracy issues throwing in a non-familiar environment with wide receivers he's never thrown to and drills that he's probably only really been doing over the last couple of months whatever that's why because i and i ask you the question because i had the exact same reaction that you did of course anthony richardson's got to throw and then i thought about it more i'm like are we not going to see him do anything because Because, you know, why would you run if everybody already thinks you're the fastest? I'm going to be this disappointed if he doesn't do anything. But I do think there's a chance he doesn't do anything. So say he comes in at 6'3.5", 227 pounds.

Okay. Which is almost can co-host. Almost can co-host. Those are actually down from his listed. He's listed 6'4", 232. So I'm just, I'm lowering it just a smidge here. And that would still be great size. And runs a 4'5 at that weight and just throws the ball out of the arena.

Mm-hmm. Dude, I don't know. I just think it's an event that anthony richardson should go on there's there's no doubt that it would help him i would run i would jump i would throw i would bench if i was anthony richardson i would bench you imagine just he i mean he would absolutely crush he would demolish everyone and then then, Trevor, for a full month, every talk show, every single talk show would be, should Anthony Richardson go number one overall?

All right. What do you think the bench press record is at the Combine since 1999 for quarterbacks? 24? Close. It's 26. Who did it jason boltus from hartwick in 2009 who are you who the hell is that here's my question how many quarterbacks have benched in combine history i don't have that number off the top of my head there's only two pages on mock draftable oh shoot no no there's

not no there's not there's more oh no there's only one one yep there's only one page uh one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Of course Brady Quinn benched. Of course he did. And he did 24 reps. He killed it. He's out here like an actual tank. I need it.

Jason Boltus. I need to see this. Yeah, I need to see him from Harwick College. Oh, he's got the frosted tips in one of his pictures. No way. Oh, it looks like he's a coach now. Oh, hell yeah. I mean, you gotta be.

You gotta be. Jason Boltis, our bench-pressing king. I could see this guy throwing up some weight. So Anthony Richardson, I legitimately think he could challenge that record. I mean, if he trained for it, for sure. But I don't think you want to do that to your rotator cuffs as a quarterback prospect there's just no reason to do that uh we spent way more time on quarterback than i thought we were going to have to yeah i'm i'm

obviously i'm looking forward to hearing the talk on will levis where the nfl really believes that he is hennon hooker's kind of the same way man we heard that he was great in interviews over the senior bowl i'd love to continue to hear what the update is on Hendon, how high he could possibly go. I mean, I'm thinking maybe back into day two right now for Hendon, which is, I would not have thought before. Stetson Bennett, obviously somebody that I'd like to get some opinions on there. C.J. Stroud's official measurables, all that.

But yeah, so that's the quarterback position. You guys can let us know what guys you want we're going to running back next as i'm kind of looking at this running back list obviously tank big tank bigsby from auburn is a big one for me because i had him as rb2 in the class uh when we did it in our early running back rankings i feel like he is just a really good combination of size speed and strength i mean especially this past year he looked a lot more balanced and when he was running that was an issue that i had with him the year the year prior the talent was certainly there the ability was there but it felt like he was tripping and on the ground and just not getting yards after contact the way

that i felt like he could have now we've got a really good uh a really good measurable combination and i wanted to see how agile he is how explosive he is all that stuff but um another name that's really standing out to me is zach charbonnet from ucla oh right how fast are you let's let's let us let's quantify some athleticism here because yeah when you watch you know six foot two 225 pounds zach charbonnet and then you watch you know jameel smaller jameer gib, Zach Charbonnet. And then you watch, you know, smaller Jameer Gibbs. They're not going to be the same kind of player. They're going to move at different speeds. But for the weight adjusted athleticism,

I feel like Charbonnet is pretty dang good. So I'd love to put some numbers to it, see how we test. But those are two guys that I think could make some money, if you will, in Indianapolis by testing pretty well. My eyes are on Devon A-Chain, of course. I think he can run in the 4-2s. I really do. I just think this is a Dallas track star.

If you go in the 4-2s, and he's had a good college career. It's not like he's this guy that's like, hey, by running the 4-2s, could go from a UDFA to a fourth rounder. I mean, he's somebody that I've said before, I think on this show, that I've seen some job at best in his game when I watch a chain who unfortunately had his NFL career cut short and then I think went to the Olympics after that, which is

just am I mixing it? No. No, am I thinking of the Giants running back? I forget job at best. I might be mixing him up with the Giants running back who got her and then went to the Olympics. Oh, David Wilson? David Wilson definitely went to the Olympics.

What did Best do? Javid Best went to the 2016 Olympics. Thank you. I overthought that. Best ran a 10.39 in the 100 meter and did not advance to the semifinals. Still unbelievable. Only had a two-year career in the NFL, unfortunately, because of injury, but he would have been a really good player without that.

Did David Wilson also go to the Olympics? I don't know why I thought he did something else after football. That would be wild. After ending his NFL career due to a neck injury, Wilson announced that he's planning to return to track and field as a triple jumper. Okay, I was kind of right. Not the Olympics, but definitely went back to track and field.

Yeah, he didn't go to the Olympics. Failed to reach the final of the 2015 Adidas Grand Prix. Finished ninth after posting a jump of 14.66 meters, which means nothing to me, but respect to David Wilson. So A-chain might go in the four twos. If he does, that would be the story of the running back group. You want to go to wide receivers here? Or do you have something else?

Well, I'd love for Tajay Spears from Tulane to continue the momentum. You know, I'd love for him to have a good combine week. Great senior bowl week. Love to see what he tests at. You know, I'm curious to see what he tests uh at you know i'm curious to see what sean tucker is agility drills are specifically right because i think you and i were on the same page with him as outside of our top five running back rankings and love the straight line speed but it just felt like that lateral movement was not there for him nearly as

as much as the explosive straight line speed was so a lot of those highlights are going to blow you away and you're gonna be like, Holy cow, look at this back. He's big. He's powerful. And I, I love Sean Tucker.

He was my RB two coming into the year, but the more I watched him this year, it was just like, man, when they took away that lane to really just go get vertical up the field, when they, they made him try to use agility. He just wasn't the same.

And I'm interested to see what he his agility drills are going to be you know the short shuttle the three cone um all that stuff so those two and then the last one i'll give a shout out to keaton mitchell the running back from ecu i like keaton mitchell man i want to see a player in this class i want to see how he tests i like the tape man i have not watched a ton of him but i i watched a bunch of him live this year okay and every time i watched him live i was like this is the best dude for ecu no question about it and it felt like he was a takeover kind of running back for him so i gotta get to some all 22 of them i knew i was gonna get to it after the combine but um those are some players as well. Last one I'll shout out.

Mo Ibrahim. Mo Ibrahim, just an incredibly productive running back during his career at Minnesota. What's he test like? And more importantly, I want to hear what people think about Mo Ibrahim because I don't think anyone has a bad word to say about him other than, okay, maybe he's not the most athletic back in the class, but where do you draft an uber productive back like him? I don't think anyone has like a bad word to say about him other than, okay, maybe he's not the most athletic back in the class, but like,

where do you draft an Uber productive back like him? Yeah. And I, I don't know. I don't know what, what the majority of thoughts are for him, but incredibly productive career at Minnesota. So that's somebody who I'm looking forward to just getting some Intel on

for sure. But yeah, let's move on to wider. Yeah. Our post combine running back preview will be very long like we did the top five and i know the comments were filled with how do you not mention this guy this guy this guy those shows are very structured to be about the top five the post combine ranking shows could be top 15s or you know top 12s that have a ton of guys outside of it that

we talk about and the running back one will probably be our longest one but then you go to wide receivers which is traditionally always long a lot of invites here trevor time like a overwhelming amount and this is a group that over the years uh it's grown how many wide receivers are drafted every single year so last year it was 28 2021 it was 34 2020 it was 37 i would i would say that it's mid high 30s every year it just has kind of hit this mark where you get to 30 almost every year pretty much every year almost of this last decade wide receivers just go um and that's that's a trend that i mean it's it's kind of changed we were kind of hovering around like 27, 28. So this is a group that you always have to do all your homework on. And this one especially because, man, dividing this up is really, really difficult.

A lot of this, there's two guys from me here that are, sure, they're obvious, but you have to talk about the obvious. Jackson Smith and Jigba, how he tests is going to be the big story, no matter what. But I think almost just as importantly, because there are significant questions about this guy across the board, Keishon Butte. I mean, we watched him over summer. I don't remember where either of us had him,

but he mattered a lot over summer. Massive expectations. Was in almost every single preseason round one mock draft it felt like. Yep. And honestly, and I'm not saying this is all his fault, but just kind of fell on his face this year at LSU. He really didn't do anything to establish himself as a top 50 pick. At first, it felt like he wasn't going to the draft.

I'd actually deleted him from my doc from early reports that he was going to transfer, and then he ends up in the draft. So now he's back on the scouting scene i mean this is a huge opportunity for him to get back on track though i mean those are the first two that come to my mind jackson smith and jigman how he tests is obviously going to be the biggest story because if he can test more athletic than people think that he is then he'll probably be wide receiver one in this class like he he'll probably he can he can probably lock up wide receiver one with a really good weekend indie and i just don't know what he's going to test out at this point so that's huge

kate sean butte is absolutely one of the primary examples of where's the intel like because where's the intel at with the rest of the nfl how do they view this guy because he wasn't going to declare for the draft and it's it was not a good year i mean you go back to summer scouting i don't remember where you had him i can't remember if we didn't watch a ton of i don't think i had him in my top five but maybe i had him a lot lower in the top five i just remember i didn't like it like i was like okay this this guy is way more he wins off athleticism way more than you would want to like he's not that polished of a receiver he's not making contested catches he's just that crazy stretch of five six games whatever it was between

his freshman and sophomore year like that was all him just winning out on athleticism and getting an insane amount of yards after the catch. So I felt like he was an incomplete receiver already going into this year. Doesn't really gel with Brian Kelly's new coaching staff coming in at LSU. It was really up and down from the very beginning, that first game against Florida state when he wasn't getting targets. And then they were showing him on the sideline and he was pissed. And then it's like, all right, and he's in the lineup. He's out of the lineup.

There was a story about LSU that happened during bowl season, which I will just tell you guys to look up. If you would like to look up of maybe a reason why he's in the draft class now, instead of cause he, he initially said that he was going to come back. He initially said, no, I'm going to come back to LSU. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it was like, nope,

I'm going to the draft. And people were like, okay. It was weird. This is a guy who, like you said, has been in the first round of mocks that I just want to figure out what people think about him. So Adam is wide receiver three in our summer scouting. I'm going back to see. Okay. I can't't i'm trying to find if you had him anywhere i don't i don't think you did i i didn't like him i thought he was i thought his profile was very

incomplete he's just a traits guy and then here's the thing when the traits don't do anything during the college season you fall off a cliff so and maybe people will you go well jackson smith and jigba didn't do anything this season i saw jackson smith and jigba absolutely destroy college football the year before oh right he had 1600 yards like that's not the same different stratosphere than kashan butte and i don't i don't share the same commitment concerns i always try to be super polite or, you know, very surface level when we get into character and everything like that. I'm not saying Boutte is a bad person.

I'm just saying it's going to be a part of his process. Like, what went on at LSU? Why were you not the star that everybody made you out to be? So he's a fascinating guy to watch. And I know a lot of people in the draft community will really gravitate to him because he's an explosive player and you always fall, you always fall into the, like what they can be at the next level.

So, and then you get Trevor one more for me on this for sure is Tyler Scott from Cincinnati, because he's just going to run well, he's going to run sub four, four. I think he goes four threes. Everybody's looking for explosive threats in a wide receiver

class that's been lacking them we know jaylen hyatt should run well tyler scott's the other guy that should be a vertical threat that should run pretty well in this uh on this track a couple other ones that i've got my eye on jordan addison i want to see what he weighs at right usc has got him listed at six feet tall 175 pounds i mean I mean, like that's, we, we, we talk about Tank Dell being super small and like Tank Dell measured into the senior bowl at 163. So like that's, that's way small, but body frame, basically the only difference between Tank Dell and Jordan Addison, at least for the numbers that are out there is the fact that Tank Dell is listed at five foot eight, Jordan Addison's listed at six foot.

So if you give me those four inches, that basically makes up for the 10 pound difference that you got there on him. So people are talking about Jordan Addison, potentially being a wide receiver one from this class. Can you draft a wide receiver one of a guy who is sub 80? Are you comfortable with that? Is he six feet tall? That's I, I think measurables are pretty big for Jordan Addison and his uh and his stock evaluation obviously like how fast did you and hyatt run that's other than it's huge right because if he can get if he can get low four threes then yeah

you're talking about a really great vertical weapon who's obviously been able to put that vertical ability out on tape as the bulletin cough winner winner this past year. I'm interested to see in A.T. Perry's straight line speed. Yeah, it matters a lot. How fast is A.T. Perry? I had A.T. Perry as my wide receiver one going into the season because I felt as though the size and speed combination for him was really good. How complete he looked as a vertical wide receiver. And then, you know, you watch him a little bit closer and you go,

all right, not really separating from these defenders with speed. He more so does it with like subtle physicality. You know, he's really great at extending the arm in a way that's not going to draw OPI, but still gives him the ability to make a deep contested catch. What's he going to run? Cause if you run,

if he's got a really good time, then I'm going to be, I'm then I look at your back. There's, there's a lot there to like, you know? i'm hoping that that happens but rishi rice another player who i think it's it's paramount how athletic he looks yes his bread and butter anyway is contested catch x receiver at the sideline ability kind of a guy but if you could show a little bit more athleticism maybe you can go even higher because i know that he's got some big fans in this draft community and then the final two that i'll

just shout out parker washington my guy from penn state would love for parker washington to have a great weekend because i really do like the tape smaller about 5 foot 11 but 215 pounds as a bigger stronger slot receiver who can get you good yards after the catch 90 contested catch percentage this past year according to our database so a guy that i really consistent hands catcher somebody that i just i love how he approaches attacking the football when it's in the air and then the last guy senior bowl shout out michael wilson from stanford how athletic are you let's play let's put it out there Let's see it against the rest of this class, because I don't want to, I don't want to put words in,

in Mike Renner's mouth or anything. But I think when we were watching Wilson, he's like, dude, his tape of the senior bowl is, is almost like top 50 worthy in this class right now. He's like, because there's not a lot of solidified outside receivers who can do what he

showed even in those three days of the senior bowl. So if he tests really well, athletically, maybe he is a top 50, top 60 we'll see you never know it's a wide receiver class that's that's so desperately looking for size and wilson is a guy that's you know a well-built wide receiver he'll probably come i'd have to pull up his senior bowl measurement i know stanford listening at 62 209 i think he's play at 2-15 he's he's got a big frame long strides um same for cedric tillman from tennessee who you'd like to see run well is another guy that

missed some time this year but when he plays he's been a good player so that brings us to the tight end situation where wait michael wilson michael wilson was six one and a half to 16 just to yeah that's thick yeah i mean he's gonna he's gonna play probably close to 220 at the nfl level young man tight ends um i mean the number one thing for me is it seems like everybody has massive expectations for luke musgrave in terms of how athletic he is i want to see it out there because here's the reality with luke Musgrave for as high as he's being, you know, projected and all these things. And Jim Nagy, who directs the senior bowl, had a really good tweet on this. He said top size speed combo at senior bowl, Luke Musgrave, who had 16th

fastest max speed, 20.05 miles per hour of any player at 255 pounds. That's, I mean, he's obviously testing really well in the GPS out there. He didn't play a lot of football this year. He got hurt. So when there's no tape to really watch of him for a guy being projected in the top 40 picks, Indy matters so much to you because I think he can be a really talented, wide receiving tight end weapon, right up the seam, good acceleration. But if he doesn't test like everybody's projecting, then all of that goes away in my eyes. He's just another, he's another guy that's solid for late day two kind of situation. And I mean, as much as everybody loves Dalton Kincaid, and I think he's, as you say, Trevor, a good football player,

like you're not around one tight end if you are an average older athlete. He needs to test really, really well to live up to being a top 20-ish pick, in my eyes. You know that's always been rich for my blood.

I think I had him tight end four. I had Merritt one. I had darnell washington two i had dalton kincaid at three comfortably i had those three ahead and then i believe i had very similar yeah then i had had musgrave at four but um i think it's a good tight end i just yes no absolutely i don't but i agree with you completely he'd really have to test off the charts in order to be picked even in my opinion as a first round he'd really have to test off the charts in order to be picked, even in my opinion, as a first rounder. He would have to test pretty off the charts,

which, again, I'm not betting on, but that's just me. Well, here's the thing. Okay, round one tight ends, right? Since 2010. Okay. Jermaine Gresham, Tyler Eifert eric ebron david and joku evan ingram oj howard hayden hurst noah fant tj hawkinson kyle pitts outside of luke should not be the next tight end on that list kincade musgrave like do they fit in that mold number one most of those guys didn't even come close living up to their draft status not even close so slander yeah absolutely is so so jay harris slander damn right

i would stand for it so i stand for it uh now that being said this is a really good class that i think there's gonna be tons of starters drafted on day two from like i think tucker tucker craft's a good player. I thought Davis Allen made some plays down at the senior bowl, the Clemson tight end, big bodied, another seam route runner. And then you get into, you know, the world of the guys that could all challenge for round one, Darnell Washington. It's just interesting.

Like, do you think some of these guys actually don't even run because they can only hurt themselves at this point with how high they're being projected? If anybody's not going to run, it's Mayer. I was saying the same thing. But is Michael Mayer really going to be that guy who shows up to the combine and doesn't do anything? That's not him.

I don't know. I can't really see it. I just can't really see him. So I think Michael Mayer is the most important tight end here i would say darnell washington is next right because like if darnell washington can test really well i looked at i looked it up in on feldman's freak list darnell washington's not on the list but brock bowers is and there's a sentence about darnell washington that says that darnellnell Washington can run in the four sixes. Like if you get a guy who's six foot seven, 280 pound tight end,

and he's running the four sixes, like I'm picking that who blocks like a tackle. I'm picking that guy over Musgraves in the first round, right? How did we get here? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. All right. So I'm looking forward I don't know. All right. So I'm looking forward to see how he tests for sure. You want to go to O-line? Yeah, why not? Who are we talking about with O-line? I mean, I feel like we've done so much of this group from the Senior Bowl. Obviously, this is now a chance for the top dogs,

whether it's Skowronski, Paris johnson broderick i okay so let's start right there number one this is the most important thing from the o-line group peter skaransky's arm length of course right i hate i like we're just touching on low-hanging fruit to start these but we have to because we are always trying to deliver to the audience what is really what you're going to hear about before you hear about it. When you turn on the Combine or you listen to shows that are recapping the Combine or previewing the Combine, this is what the talking points are. Skowronski's arm length is insane, but could dictate him going seventh overall or outside of the top ten.

And I really mean that. It doesn't mean I agree with it. He'll be a top 10 player for me, but that's the reality where we are right now. I agree, obviously. Skowronski's arm length is, unfortunately, by far the most important thing. These are the worst combos.

No, and we obviously won't spend a ton of time on o-line because o-line play is evaluated with pads on at all 22 end zone angle right i mean like that's how you're evaluating o-line play you're not evaluating o-line team at o-line play at the combine but what you are evaluating is that is the measurables part of it so that is you know a lot of people might listen to this part of the podcast and be like oh you guys are like nitpicking little things about all i play just so you you know we don't think that's the most important part of it but the takeaways from o-line is going to be about the measurables i am also interested to see and i noted this when we were down in mobile the senior bowl but what is osiris torrents his weight he was, he was listed at three 47 at Florida.

I think he probably played. Yeah. Right around three 50. I feel like that was his weight. And I did feel like he carried some unnecessary weight while he was at Florida. He measured into the car at the senior bowl at three 37. So at least 10 pounds lighter than what Florida had him listed at this

season, which I thought his body looked better. Does he get even closer to 330? Because I think that finding a healthy weight between 330 and 335, I feel like is the sweet spot for Torrance. Like he's not going to be carrying an unnecessary weight. He's not going to be slower with his feet than he needs to be, but he could still be that powerful earth mover that he has been over the last couple of years, especially this last year in the SEC. So I am very intrigued to see if he can get below 335. Like does, is he really kind of taking that to heart,

taking the weight to heart, the dieting to heart? And can he get between 330 and 335? Cause I think that'll, that will also be big for him. So yeah, he's the rest of the guys on this list, you know, Darnell, right. We saw him at the senior bowl, DeJuan Jones. We saw him at the senior bowl. I suppose how Broderick Jones and Paris Johnson jr. Test athletically could be a big difference maker, right?

If either of those guys just move crazy well, explosive, smooth, show up with the measurables that we want them to and the height and the weight, if that's the case, maybe they vault themselves up to that offensive tackle one category. But that's what I believe the big storyline is going to be is skaronsky's arm and then paris johnson jr and broderick jones athleticism like who's going to come out of indy as offensive tackle one that's going to be that's going to be pretty huge that's going to be the news it's going to be massive i think that right now it feels like paris is in line for that i think i still think skarronski has the higher floor.

I mean, when you look at Broderick, he's God, he's a big dude that's really athletic, that has insane recruiting background, and was good as a one-year starter to back it up. So, yeah. I think that's the big thing right there.

And then, I'm ready for D-line, but I don't want to jump the gun if you had more on. You know what? I'm excited to see your guy, Anton Harrison, because I think he had a great year. Yeah, yeah. And I think he's the least talked about rookie starting offensive lineman,

right? Like Paris, Skronsky, Broderick, Darnell Wright, probably even DeJuan Jones. All the centers. They're going to start as rookies. I just think people get spooked when you talk about offensive linemen and strength being an issue, especially in year three of them starting. And that was still kind of an issue with Anton Harrison.

In that conference where... Yeah. I don't really... Yeah, there's not a lot of... Okay, I don't want to slight the Big 12 too much, but, you put anton harrison in the sec how's he faring right so that's a question that's that's just the way that i'm going to say it before we move over to defense because that wraps up things on the offensive side of the football what if i told you guys that you could have invested in tom brady's stock individual stock as a player, as a rookie. Now that he is

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nfl we are still living in a world where it's defensive linemen and linebackers so you get will anderson with the linebackers but wait is will anderson it's so dumb this is stupid stupid how are we stupid it's 2023 and we're still doing this why are we doing this i just it's i mean this is also the league that has people run around with a chain gang to measure okay so that's why literally humans carrying around orange sticks with chains to measure hey all due respect hey we. Hey, we know Darnell Washington just ran 27 miles an hour, but here comes two humans carrying around orange sticks

to measure the football spot. You're triggered right now. I just, I am. You're pretty triggered. It's disgusting looking at this list. It is sick. Sickening. The most important to me.

Tyree Wilson. Oh, okay. Not where I was going, but I like it. Who'd you think it was going to be? Who'd you think it was going to say? Collider of Cancy. Oh, sure. Yeah. I mean, he might be 5'10".

Not that I care. He genuinely might be 5'10". What's Pittsburgh got him listed at? Six feet. What is it? Six 280 yeah uh they got him listed at six feet 280 oh no connor they couldn't list them six foot one so he's like we're like all right six feet all right so the over under on khalid you can't see the defensive tackle is the same as bryce young oh my god

man he's so freaking good though and i like both of them love them what a strange class this is no that's obviously big um yeah there's only let me look at my craftable let's go to with khalid i feel like your brain kind of gravitates towards to like grady jarrett but grady jarrett was six one 304 i don't think who do you who do you think the smallest defensive tackle has been at the combine over the last i should know this over the last 24 years can i guess the height you can't guess the height. I think the height's like five, nine and a half. It is O'Brien. Who is this? O'Brien Goodson.

Oh, wait, from last year's class? I don't remember this player. He is from, where's the school? Memphis. Memphis. He was five foot ten and one fourth. And he was 276 pounds.'s not in the nfl the next smallest player is a handful which are tied for six feet even oh so this is like collage cancer is going in like

three percent tile oh if he 10 oh if he goes under six feet, if Clyde, you can't, he's under six feet. He will be in the zeroth percentile for defense tackles in the NFL. Oh, this is a doozy, huh? Yeah.

It's tough. And now hopefully Pittsburgh is just not up to date on the listing. And he actually is like six feet and a half, or once again, I don't personally care that much, but what would six feet and a half be? Six feet and a half would be the second percentile nice nice love love to bet on outliers baby yeah we are becoming the outlier pod which is not no i don't i don't i don't want to be that don't you you dare. I am a stickler of not making a habit of that.

I know, but this class is kind of tough. Hopefully he's six feet tall. Okay, here's the question. Do you think he translates on the edge in situational packages? I think he can do it. Yeah, in situational packages. But the question is, is that worth a first-round i mean yeah it's situational packages but the question is is that worth the first round pick and it's probably not no he's probably a second round guy he's only worth the first round pick if you're if you're playing him at three technique and you think

he could win at three technique yeah and then zach martin gets his hands on you and tony pollard runs for 900 yards through the a gap and you're like wait why in one in one play even in one place just running through all of dallas texas yeah okay yeah that one's tough that's tough um all right well that's now you know what we're watching but go back to tyree i completely invaded where you want to start this thing no no no, no. The two of the names that pop out to me immediately are Lucas Van Ness and Tyree Wilson. I want to know what the NFL really thinks of these guys. Mel Kuyper had them both in his top 12, right?

Daniel Jeremiah had him, had both those guys in, at least in his mock draft. I can't remember what his top 50 was, but both those guys were in the top 12 of his mock draft as well. So what do these guys come in at measurably? We think that they're going to be. We think that they're going to really stand out in that regard. And so you obviously want to just make sure that's that's that's a fact. Tyree Wilson, the entire scouting report around him is how big, how tall, how long he is. So does he have that insane wingspan that everybody talks about?

The mid 80s, upper 80s wingspan that everybody talks about the uh mid 80s upper 80s wingspan lucas van ness i'd like to see how explosive he is man that's what i really want to see because i think that shows up on tape in his best reps can you count on that being something that is a um i guess i'll say a baseline to his game as he really works out his pass rush profile because right now he's just a bull rusher like to me lucas vaness is just a speed to power player and i want to know that i'd actually i mean i'd love to see his agility as well because i'd love to combine that that explosiveness with the agility scores to say okay look at all the different pass rush things i might be able to do how i can really um attack the outside shoulder and then move inside and be able to do that crossing the face

in different ways so clay that's something that i would like to see from him i just i hope that he tests really well especially for where he's being mocked because he's going to need it with um as few reps as i feel like he has um over the last couple of years at Iowa, especially because he was playing on the interior before and now we're projecting him as an edge rusher. But yeah, I mean, those are the two guys that really stand out to me. You know, a lot of the other players, Siaki Ika, I mean, I kind of already know it. He's going to have short arms.

I'd like for him to show some good explosiveness of the 10-yard split from the 40-yard dash, but I feel like he's going to show that so i'm not really worried about it um i guess miles murphy you know how he tests yeah it's a big one it's going to be huge zach harrison yeah who didn't get you know who wasn't at the senior bowl um need to see the measurables there one more, Trevor, to complain about how this is formatted. How about 235-pound Nolan Smith being with the D-line? Drew Sanders and Nick Herbig are with the linebackers. Nolan Smith is with the D-line.

It doesn't make sense. Just wild. Brian Brzee, that's the intel guy from this group right yeah what's the nfl thing about brian brazee definitely the intel guy what's the scuttlebutt is there a team that still sees the talent he has everything he went through this year medically and mentally and emotionally and goes, we'll get that guy in our D-line room with a top 30 pick and he's going to be really good for us. Wait a second. Is B.J. Ogilari with the linebackers?

Yes, he is. See, now you're sharing my frustration. Roger. This is a mess. It's a mess. This is ridiculous. Open your eyes so is uh Derek Hall by the way I know but Nolan Smith is with the D-line I don't know who does this I don't I would actually I would love to know who does this that's That's the, that's the Intel that we need. Okay.

Forget everything that we can learn about players. Brian Brzee, Kayshawn bootay, Hendon hooker. Don't care. I don't care what the NFL thinks. I want to learn who's making these lists. Who's email do I have to get?

Telegram. Oh, here's one for you. Will McDonald with the defense. Oh, here's one for you. Will McDonald with the defensive line. Kill me. He looks like a wide receiver on the senior bowl field. So a lot of linebackers, they were transitioning over to linebackers now. Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing we just went through.

Obviously, I'm very excited to see BJ Ojolari. Oh, yes. All sarcasm aside. a very good player i think that he's getting slept on this class man i think we're we are wanting a lot of other edge rushers to kind of like be in that top tier conversation ojalary is just damn good at what he does yeah he was a top five edge for me on that preview i think he's gonna yeah i think he's gonna be a really good player um jack sambo's 40 yeah big i mean we don't think it's going to be fast you know you know who's 40 i think is probably more important and just overall athleticism score is to marvion

overshown for sure from texas i think that his his athletic performance is going to be a big deal because that's that's his entire strength right like that's what he's going to be boasting is yeah i'm a former safety i've got a unique body type and i'm giving you a lot of speed in the middle so he's got to be able to showcase that one for sure absolutely and then you know one more here uh when you go back to feldman's freaks noah sewell whose film we diagnosed on the linebacker preview did not have a great you know season feldman wrote former high school quarterback um the gps had him top out at 20.85 miles per hour that's a good mark he's benched 425 he's he's weight room warrior so he's the guy that has to bench and has to run in a straight line pretty well i don't think that

fixes his issues but if he doesn't do those things as one of the highest metrics then you're probably looking at a pretty safe day three slide for noah sewell uh diane henley from washington state and a lot of people were upset we didn't talk about him on the show and it's not that we don't know it it's just that's going to be the full linebacker preview yeah i didn't i didn't get to i didn't get to watch enough of him yet obviously like i saw a little bit of him at the senior bowl i know mike renner loved him so i gotta watch him for sure but him and then dorian williams from tulane those are two guys who uh would love to see how they test because again if you could stand out as an athlete in this linebacker class i think you're i think you're uh that you're gonna

make it especially if you have like that true linebacker role you know like we talked about in the episode like being able to be a true off ball not this like hybrid okay what are we doing with you how are we masking some of your weaknesses all that kinds of stuff i think those guys could definitely earn some money for themselves um last group defensive backs who you got i just think i think i think christian gonzalez is going to test just bonkers honestly i think he's going to be six two uh over 200 pounds i think his vert is going to be over 40 inches i think he's going to run in the four threes i think he's going to look so good in the drills with that back pedal and how his change of direction is i think christian gonzalez is going to absolutely put on a show from this group would Would love to see it. I really do.

We'd truly love to see it. I think people are going to lose their minds after seeing him at the Combine. I think that's a bad process because I think it's all there on film. I don't really think you'd need the Combine to diagnose that this dude is one of the best athletes in the draft, but I think the Combine will absolutely confirm that. Two big weigh-ins for me oh the first one is devon witherspoon what is witherspoon way it'll be 185 if he can get up to 185 cool yeah maybe 183 it'll be it'll

be gyra alexander all over again what was no gyra was bearing that one gyra was i think 183. It'll be Jair Alexander all over again. What was... No, Jair was better than that, wasn't he? No, Jair was, I think, 183 at the combine. Let me look right now. No, I'm going to look right now. Oh, 196. I was wrong. Oh, yeah. I was like, there's no way he was 183.

That's crazy because he didn't play close to that at Louisville. No way. No, yeah, but he's more filled out. I'm telling you, look at Devon Witherspoon. Now, we love Devon Witherspoon. Love the tape. Incredible player. He's playing.

He looks like he's playing at 180. No doubt. If you look at him, again, the wrists, the calves, the ankles, he's just smaller. He just doesn't carry a lot of weight in those areas of his body. You look at his shoulders, and the shoulders are pretty big. His shoulders are broad. I think his chest is pretty broad like

i so i think the build there is where he carries a lot of his weight which is fine but he's just not going to be somebody who's going to get regularly above 190 195 and okay does he need to well no not with tackle tackles like an animal stickiest guy in coverage in the draft all right let's look at weight i just don't think it matters he's not short lowest weight for lowest weight for a corner was 164 i mean dude there's been some featherweights oh jack jones was 171 he's small he had a really nice season for new england he had a really nice season. Marcus Jones is 174. Yeah. Slot only. Which isn't Witherspoon. Antoine Winfield Sr. was

176. Didn't know that. Did not know that. I remember him being a lanky guy, but that's light. That is really light. I'm looking at what Travius Hodges Tomlinson came in at Shrine. His height is small small but he's five seven he's pretty thick yeah okay he was i mean he's a

slot or a safety then like a third safety not like a base package safety and he's got good tape he can't play on the you can't play him on the outside no he wasn't a oh i don't have the shrine measurement in front of me i'm an idiot i'll get it in a second he was five seven and five eights 175 trevor he was only 175 i'm a little surprised by that too uh the other one's Emmanuel Forbes, right? How much does Emmanuel Forbes weigh? Because I've seen Emmanuel Forbes mock the back end of the first round, and he is very slender.

He's just a small dude. He's a string bean. No, he's tall, though. He is tall, and part of it goes in the build. I get that, but still. I mean, if you're that slender, you just don't have a lot of weight on you you know i don't want you what what am i supposed to do hey go go guard dk metcalf no like you can't like there's just there's all of a sudden matchups that you become a major mismatch for if you don't have that strength profile i remember what i said to you too when you watch

this tape they try to screen him to death they're like hey buddy get off this blocker and come down and make a tackle they just keep doing it to him yeah uh he's a feisty dude but yeah it's he's gonna be tested that way clark phillips you know how what is he gonna come in at height wise because he's one of the best corners in this draft but he's just he's just a shorter kind of guy you know who you know who a guy who was just not really talked about it anymore who was you know i ricks well i mean totally fell off the face of the earth thank you for bringing up my cb1 during uh summer scouting i did not remember that i have i had him as a top 25 player so listen egg on the face here no so uh he is obviously here. No, so he is obviously a big one.

Eli Rex is obviously a big one. Brandon Joseph from Notre Dame. Remember like a year, year and a half ago, we were all talking about Brandon Jones or Brandon Joseph's apparently like a top 50 pick. I just want to see what he tests as. Cause that's the thing. You watch his tape.

I mean, you watch his tape and you go, okay, I like some of the instincts from him. I like how he sees the field. Sometimes he anticipates things really well, but then it's like he puts his foot in the ground and he goes to make a play on the ball as it's coming in he just can't get there like you can't get to the sideline or he can't get to the throwing window so i have summer notes on him and i need to watch him this year to be fair to him after he transferred uh i i just remember he just could not tackle angles strength but i liked his ball skills, looking back at this.

So in 2021, he had missed 17 tackles just in the run game. That's a liability. All right, so at the Combine, we have Anthony Johnson. We have Anthony Johnson Jr., and we have Antonio Johnson. Great. Just wonderful. And there's two Byron Youngs in the same draft. Of course.

Who are both in the defensive line category, by the way. Oh yes oh yeah they didn't just throw on the linebacker stick uh the last last guy that i want last guy well actually two guys i want to shout out one key trail clark the corner from louisville i'm not gonna lie man i didn't i did not really know a ton about him i went back and i watched all the practice film from the Shrine Bowl. He's awesome. Okay. He is small. He is a smaller corner, but he moves with that kind of confidence and aggressive play that you want to see.

Like every movement is explosive from him. He is eyes on the quarterback at all times, trying to make the best play on the ball, trying to make the best play on the receiver. There were a couple of times where he was like calling out what was about to be a screen or a quick, quick pass. And he'd be able to beat it and make a play in the backfield, even in practice.

And like, I don't know. It's just awesome to see. So love the instincts, love the athletic ability from love, how aggressive he was. He's somebody that I'm looking forward to probably getting to chat with hopefully at the,

at the podium sessions and then seeing how he tests. And then last one for me brian branch how athletic are you brian branch because on tape you were one of the best football players in this class if you can test like a good defensive back athlete all around i mean i'm i i'm picking the dude in the top 20 lock lock top 20 pick he should not be one of those players who you get to the end of a first round mock and you just go like oh you know like i'm gonna pick a real good football player at the back end of the first round like like the class does not have enough players that are good at football above him if he tests really well i think he can make a a lot of money for himself when it comes to andy one for me is jalen jones from texas a&m 6-2-2-0-5 this is a former top 10 recruit out of the state of texas

there were massive expectations he was solid for a&m he dealt with both lower and upper body injuries so i wonder if in that kind of environment you just look at him trevor he's got that you know he has the look of guys like gonzalez and porter and ringo right that tall filled out physical kind of corner he had an okay college career when there's a chance he could have had a great college career so how does that project moving forward to the nfl level and when he tests and he gets out of that environment and talks to teams and they tap into what kind of ceiling he has so he could be a day two corner that could be a long time starter. Cause I know that people are going to yell at us if we don't talk about specialists.

You think so? The only, the only specialist that I really know here is Michael Turk because he's related to Matt Turk. Yeah. It's his uncle, right? Yeah.

That's it. That's all I got. I always liked when BT Potter came out to kick for clemson i don't know why i felt like he was there for nine years he was there for five i just it's such a funny name it wasn't shaky bt potter bt potter bt potter sounds like a uh uh a character from the greatest showman movie that actually is spot on come on right that's exact yeah yeah bt potter uh one of the most prolific kickers in clemson acc and ncaa history is what his bio says 75.3 though that's not very good prolific though college bios you got to remember he's prolific whoever writes these college bios i want them to do our descriptions for the show

please do the most unbelievable podcast ever recorded when discussing the nfl combine as prolific hosts trevor sycamore and conor rogers i'm gonna i'm gonna throw the word prolific into the bio and if people don't make it to the very end of the podcast they're gonna think we are absolutely self-centered a-assholes yes absolutely i mean which we are but you know yeah i don't know enough about the specialist class yet i know turk had a really good college career that's pretty much it oh alex ward is he he's a long snapper that will be drafted like in the fifth or sixth round, that kind of long snapper could have came out last year.

Uh, you know, decided to stay. It was at the senior bowl. Uh, here's your long snapper take from me is that he's, he's one of the better ones to come out of the draft in a while. All right,

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you guys didn't listen to it yes last year we were new at the time we basically we draft against each other live on the show who's going to be the fastest d lineman who's going to bench the most who's going to who's going to you know have the best three cone like all this for every single position group and it's a really fun way to preview uh to preview the combine so we're definitely doing that now when you get to that episode you already had your what are the questions of the nfl combine like why are d-line and linebackers the way they are for the last time on this show i will we don't know they can't keep getting away with this someone please i'm begging you i might write a handwritten letter to the nfl office and just keep sending it until I get an answer.

Like Andy Dufresne in Shawshank when he keeps asking for books for the library. And then like nine months later, they're like, sir, please stop writing us. We don't know what you're talking about. All right, that's enough. I'm going to title the letter Big Raj. So it's going to be big Raj comma. I hope this email finds you horribly as the combine list did me when I saw that Will Anderson was listed with the linebackers. But Nolan Smith is with the D line.

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