NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 148. 3-Round Mock Draft For Teams That Don't Have 1st Rd Picks in 2023

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers show some love to the teams that don't have a first round pick with a 3-round mock draft highlighting picks for the San Francisco 49ers, Miami Dolphins, Los Ange...les Rams, Cleveland Browns and Denver Broncos.

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by our good friends at NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV. I'm sure by now you've all got back into your Sunday routines, but they could be even better. With NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV, you get the most live NFL games all in one place, every game, every Sunday. And you can even watch up to four different games at once with MultiView, one of my favorite inventions of this decade. It's exactly what you need to catch all the action. Make your Sundays more magical. And also, YouTube TV is great. I got it this year.
Starting point is 00:00:37 It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. In this episode, we're doing a three-round mock draft
Starting point is 00:00:54 for each of the teams that don't have a first-round pick this year. It's the Denver Broncos, the San Francisco 49ers, the Los Angeles Rams, the Cleveland Browns, and the Miami Dolphins. But if you're not a fan of any of those teams, don't worry. We still have a lot of great conversations about players that are left on the board around those picks.
Starting point is 00:01:12 So we're getting into rounds two, round three, and we find out which players really might be available at certain spots. So even though you're not a fan of those exact teams, it could really help out your draft intel as you are building out mock drafts for your team that are longer than just round one. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me as always is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That's Connor Rogers joining you guys on a midweek edition. And it is a special one.
Starting point is 00:01:50 It is a midweek mock draft edition. Now, it's not a full first round mock draft, but Connor and I came to the conclusion that, you know what? It's about time we give some love to those teams and the fan bases that don't get talked about nearly enough. The draft isn't just one round long. So how come we never talk about the teams that don't have first round picks? Well, now, don't say we never did anything for you. We're doing that here.
Starting point is 00:02:17 There are five teams right now in the 2023 NFL draft that do not have first round picks. And we are going to do three round mock drafts for all of them. Connor, how are you feeling today, my friend? I love this idea from you. I'm feeling good because you often forget from doing so many round one mocks that fan bases like the Rams, the Broncos, Browns, three of the five we're going to cover today. They did not have great seasons, those teams.
Starting point is 00:02:41 So just because they don't have a first round pick, the draft matters so much to them. rams still have a top 40 pick the browns still have a top 50 pick the broncos could be picking back to back uh with 68 and 69 those three teams have tons of needs so and we'll do the dolphins and the niners as well as they look to build on their playoff seasons as well so this is a great idea. It's giving attention to areas that don't get enough attention throughout the draft coverage. Yeah. So we'll kind of branch off into two round,
Starting point is 00:03:15 like full two round mocks. Maybe we can, maybe we can hype up the draft with a three round mock kind of, as we get closer to April, we know we'll definitely do that. You guys have already been in the comments kind of asking if we can go a little bit longer and do some two round three round mocks and we will definitely get there but before we did we wanted to kind of just give these teams and these fan bases that may love the draft all the same they just don't get talked about a ton this year because they don't have a first round pick we want to show you guys some love too so um again don't say that we never did and didn't do anything
Starting point is 00:03:44 for you because we are here devoting an entire episode to it uh you mentioned the teams the los angeles rams the denver broncos the cleveland browns the san francisco 49ers and the miami dolphins those are the five teams that do not have first round picks as of right now these are the numbers from tankathon that we have rams have the number 37 overall pick and the 70th pick so they'll bet they'll have two picks in this mock draft exercise broncos you mentioned 68 and 69 browns 43 and 99 dolphins three of them 52 78 85 and then right now uh i think it's listed the comp picks for the niners 100 and 102 they only have two or do they have three? I thought they had three.
Starting point is 00:04:28 They could ultimately have three. I think they've had a lot of people hired from their franchise, and they obviously get the multiple third-round compensatory selections from those hires being minority hires. And the list is long. I mean, this isn't just the most recent ones with guys like D'Amico and Carthen. It's Robert Salas included in that. Mike McDaniel, right?
Starting point is 00:04:53 Yeah. They have so many selections from that. So that might be something that will need to be updated quite shortly. Yeah, so right now we'll just have the two picks for the 49ers because the way that we'll do this exercise is we will use the PFS mock draft simulator and we're simply going to select those to teams being on the board i'm sure that we'll say oh this guy's not on the board but if he was we would love for him to be a fit for this team but i don't like pulling those names out of thin air because i feel like often when we do that we're just we're always shooting too high like we're like if they're picking number 50 we're picking guys who
Starting point is 00:05:42 are going to be ranked like 30th, 32nd, whatever, because we just want to address the need with a really good football player. So using the PFF mock draft simulator kind of saves us from ourselves, if you will. And maybe we'll give us a more realistic, realistic view of it. So I don't know. You got any other stipulations, anything you want to get out there? We're not doing trades for this. No trades. We're going to keep it as it is. But no, we're going to keep it as is because that would just be absolutely insane but we will do uh all the picks we have listed for all these teams and that would bring us to the rams first off i guess for when we
Starting point is 00:06:15 get to a new team each time trevor we just kind of discuss big picture of the team so i'll start with the rams who are picking i have 37th here and we'll eventually make the 70th overall selection for them they have a lot of needs this team which is not surprising coming off a down year you could admit you could go through their offensive line and find a couple interior needs I still think they need another corner interior defensive line is a need they need another safety they could use an edge pass rusher so the rams have plenty of different needs both in the trenches and just on defense as a whole yeah the offensive line was not what it needed to be this year no joe joe no no boom specifically was giving up a ton of pressures before he got hurt um david edwards is a free agent they got a lot of free agency here
Starting point is 00:07:02 a lot that's what went into writing down these needs was how many guys could just walk in free agency. I counted those spots. Yeah. Yeah. A'shaun Robinson's a free agent. Greg Gann's a free agent. I feel like they're going to bring him back.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I feel like they kind of have to. Troy Hill, Taylor Rapp, Nick Scott, all those guys are free agents. David Long Jr., the other corner. Yeah, they're going gonna need secondary help wait their entire special teams according to our lads is for our free agents from kicker to long snapper yes wow that's a that's a rarity from kicker long snapper kick kick off player returner kick returner they're all special teams, number one need. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You know when the holder is hitting free agency, they hit every single bar right there. So offensive lineman, we're sitting here at 37. Who's left on the board? Who recently just went? The best one I – so this is the kicker here. The best one I have available right now is darnell right but rob havenstein their right tackle signed a three-year extension not that long ago so
Starting point is 00:08:13 i i don't think they're drafting a guy that is just a right tackle personally yeah it kind of comes down to like whether or not you think either of those guys can flip. Yeah, and they tried that with Darnell Wright at Tennessee. I mean, he's a right tackle. So, Habenstein's under contract. You're not taking a right tackle. Osiris Torrance is off the board. He went first round. I mean, they would absolutely love him.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Who's still on the board for me? John Michael Schmitz was there for me. Cody Mauck is there, who i don't mind but brian allen their center's on a three-year deal so not center it's probably you're right you're on it with guard mock is gonna play guard at the next level right no i don't like him at 37 i'm just low on him no i don't i don't that's that's that's pretty rich you know jamie jamie robinson is here from florida state and i do think that he's I think he should be in consideration here. I like him potentially there.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You're right, John Michael Schmitz. I don't know if they would need him. Maybe Felix Anudike Uzuma. Sure. It stinks that I just had the two picks in front of me were B.J. Ogilari at 34 and Will McDonald at 35. I would have considered either of those guys here. I have Ogilari on my board.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's one I really like, but I get why they're just so desperate on the inside of the offensive line and defensive line. Man, I like Darnell Wright for them, though. I do, but look at Havenstein's contract. He's their right tackle. Can he play guard? Can you, like, put him at right guard and then, like, figure it out, push him to tackle later?
Starting point is 00:09:57 You're just getting a good offensive lineman at 37? Oh, Wright, you're saying? Yes. Yeah, because Havenstein's 6'8", either. Guards don't play at 6'8". So it would be right kicking inside. That's a good question. That's a really good question.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Because the other one that you're probably discussing here is maybe DeJuan Jones from Ohio State. Another right tackle only. But he's another right tackle. Matthew Bergeron. Not ideal. It's early for him this is actually this did not go our way at all just being completely honest exercise sucks uh we're done actually
Starting point is 00:10:33 this is a really bad start matthew bergeron it's just it's early it's early it's early you know who's on the board in mind that i would take here if i was them and i know you'll agree dionte banks oh sure that's who i would take and i think 36 isn't we're not in full unrealistic territory yet yeah because what's their cap space i'm sure it's bad i mean they won a super bowl who cares i'm just saying they they have not right right um they're in the red they're in the red 15 mil so they're not you could work around that sure they'll make their moves everybody does it i probably like deontay Banks the most on your board. I have BJ Ogilari on mine. That's where the debate's at.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Oh, wow. Oddly enough, I might like Ogilari better as a player, but I think corner is... I don't know what's a bigger need. It depends on who they bring back and who they don't because their whole secondary besides Jalen Ramsey is a free agent. I think it would be dionte banks all right i don't have i don't have banks where did banks go on mine he's probably still available on yours he's very low he's 68th on the pff board oh mike what are we doing brother it's probably not updated not updated. No, I do have Deontay Banks here.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Is that where we go? You can find me for Ocelari, and I will understand, because I really like Ocelari. Let's keep the mock somewhat similar. We'll go Deontay Banks here for the Rams. So Banks goes to the Rams. We will recap all the picks at the end of it, because we're doing it all in one mock draft. So we'll be able to get you picks at the end of it um because we're doing it all in all in one mock draft so we'll be able to get you that at the end cleveland browns on the clock here next was his
Starting point is 00:12:31 pick 43 40 uh let's see yes 43 okay interior defensive line i think is huge for them and wide receiver i think is huge for them those are the two areas that i'm that i'm looking at absolutely yeah interior d-line you're that's that has to be it okay so this would actually just to let everybody know i'm just realizing why it's different between tankathon and the simulator tankathon counted the dolphins forfeited pick as a slot oh okay so everybody wondering, oh, it's not 43, it's 42, you're technically right, and the Rams pick was technically 36. So pick 42 for the Browns.
Starting point is 00:13:15 There are two players that I have on the board that I think would be ideal Cleveland Browns. Okay. They're at different positions. One is a wide receiver, one is an interior defensive tackle. Do you have Elijah Canty on the board? No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:13:28 He's the one. Oh, I do. Okay. You still have Canty on the board at 42? Yeah. This is a weird one for me. Yeah, but also. We won't count that.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, but hold on. Hold on a sec. Because their defensive line, like, they need beef. They do. Exactly. Yes. They don't need. That's been their issue.
Starting point is 00:13:44 They don't need a small pass rusher. No, they need beef they do exactly yes they don't need that's been their issue they don't need a small pass rusher no they need they need beef my two players that i would like to propose to you nathaniel tankdale too small come on they need dynamic speed come on in 165 pounder i picked 42 it's the beginning of the second round okay keep going the other one you better not you you better not poo-poo me on it this one's keanu benton from wisconsin that's my favorite one i've been staring it in the face i love keanu benton man love keanu bent. I would argue Jalen Hyatt over Tank Dell, by the way. That's why I said that. No.
Starting point is 00:14:29 No. No. No. No. Okay. They already have. Okay, so they have. You learn a lot about people.
Starting point is 00:14:35 He could be Deshaun's new Will Fuller. They have Donovan Peoples Jones. He can't run like Jalen Hyatt. Schwartz is not a wide receiver in a what is he he's a gadget guy okay you're not not taking somebody because of anthony would have tank dell would have been what you actually wanted out of anthony schwartz probably can you at least give me that yes okay i really think i can get tank dell honestly when they pick it pick 98 oh you are you are high you are out of your mind somebody remember this point of the podcast i over under on tank dell is set at 97 where it is i'm serious
Starting point is 00:15:26 where does tank dell get picked closer to 42 or 98 it's not easy watch he's gonna go right in the middle like exactly right at the middle point middle right in the middle point somebody please remember this hey you know what trevor you might be on it because they drafted the lightest wide receiver in the history of football in tutu atwell in the second or third round second round so maybe the rams did oh we're on the browns we're on the browns i was just thinking of the rams but that did have yeah i mean tank dell is also exactly what the rams wanted in tutu Atwell. Yeah. Who made a couple plays this year? I want to give him his credit. I mean, not second round. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Priority UDFA. All right, so are we picking Keanu Benton at 42? I would love that, yeah. Okay, all right. We're picking Keanu Benton at 42. All right. We have the Dolphins on the clock for the first time at 52. This is still mid-side.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Very easy one here um in my in my humble opinion the way my wonky draft fell i i am taking john michael schmitz here every time oh yeah every single time athletic center tough guy well didn't uh connor Conor Williams play center for them this past year? That's not the solution. Did he stink? He's not good. Nobody stinks under Mike McDaniel in that run scheme. But things could be better.
Starting point is 00:16:55 He was good, though. It's a career year, I think. Everybody has a career year in Mike McDaniel's run scheme. Everyone. You're just an absolute hater i i'm drinking the haterade for today's show i gotta relax it's so bad he was okay last year too yeah okay it's fine why not get a guy that could be a pro bowler all right all right you might be able to kick connor williams out to uh to maybe one of the guard spots if you don't like leah
Starting point is 00:17:22 mikeyberg playing there yeah now to be fair to the dolphins because if you don't like Liam Eikenberg playing there. Yeah. Now, to be fair to the Dolphins, because I'm not an Austin Jackson guy, they have a massive problem at right tackle. Oh, I have Darnell Wright available. Oh, then you do that. I'm not even close. The thing is, I don't think he's going to be here. No, Darnell Wright, he went 38th in mine.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Where I picked 50, 52. Yeah, he's obviously still on the board for me. Wow, the Titans picked Cody Mock at 41 instead of Darnell Wright. That's malpractice. Yeah, can't be doing that. No, he cannot be doing that. So where are we going? Wow, wow, look at this.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Tank Dell went 49th in my mock. He went 45th in mine. Mine's laughing at me. I don't mind John michael schmitz i don't mind that is there a corner would be my only other because byron jones what's his contract because he's not been the guy that they signed him to be it's he was hurt last year he does he's been hurt for like almost two years the contract's an absolute disaster oh it's disgusting yo what is this yeah he you can't cut him this year you unless you think he just won't play then you can't you can cut him but you only save 3.5 million with 15 million in dead money yeah at that point you'd obviously
Starting point is 00:18:46 much rather just what's his poet is it oh trevor he'll be a post june cut like guaranteed oh because they save 13.6 you're right i didn't ask correctly how does his injury affect the post june cut does he have to come in pass a physical and then you cut him yeah probably yeah okay so it'll be a post june cut so you he have to come in, pass a physical, and then you cut him? Yeah. Okay. So it'll be a post-June cut. So you're on it with Corner. I'm not a doctor.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Their secondary wasn't very good last year overall. Xavier Howard was just okay when he's usually amazing. Tyreek Stevenson's still here for me. Okay. I think that I would. The Corners went in my draft. All of them. You don't have Stevenson? I have Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Okay. But I don't have anyone else. I'm in the Hodges Tomlinson part of the draft. I mean, obviously, I have him too. Jalen Jones. Clark Phillips. Oh, DeJuan Jones is here, though. Steve Avila.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Steve Avila is a good one. So you like the idea of the guard instead of John Michael Schmitz? No, I mean, Michael Schmitz is the better prospect. So if we're going to pick an interior offensive lineman, we're going to pick John Michael Schmitz. Okay. It's basically him or Stevenson. I would take John Michael Schmitz.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I think he's the better player. Okay. All right. We'll take John Michael Schmitz. I think he's the better player. Okay. All right. We'll take John Michael Schmitz. Draft it. Draft it. Now we're kind of moving pretty far here. The Broncos get back-to-back picks, 67 and 68.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Okay. I had written down O-line, a big D-end or a big edge. Yeah. And linebacker for them. Oh, and there is a there are two staring me right in the face for that big D end. Is one of them out of to me? Well, at a bar. No, because he's there, too.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I actually had to scroll down. You're right. That's one of three. Wow. You got got three who do you have on the board zach harrison uh he just went five picks in front of me and tully uh tui pelotu from usc who that that's kind of a hot pick for them six four two ninety him 290. Him or Harrison. They need a big end. I feel like Harrison's kind of perfect.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. I agree. You can pick him. I'm going to pick I'm going to pick Adebuare because I just don't have him on the board. So we'll remember
Starting point is 00:21:20 that subtle difference there. Well, either way, we got them a big end. Yeah, because Denver's Denver's got a bunch of speed guys, right? They've got Randy Gregory. Randy Gregory's there. They've got Nick. They moved the Ohio State linebacker to edge.
Starting point is 00:21:34 That worked out really well. Barron Browning, who's good. Barron Browning, yes. They have Nick Bonito as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they need a big end. Speed. Yeah, Draymond Jones is a free agent.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Deshaun Williams is a free agent. They traded Bradley Chubb. Mike Purcell is getting up there in age. They traded Bradley Chubb. I mean, defense wasn't the problem for the Broncos, but... No. Did you see Sean Payton's going to interview Rex Ryan to coach that defense? No way.
Starting point is 00:22:06 That's pretty sweet. Okay. Nice. Nice. Pretty sweet. All right. I like Zach Harrison for him. I'll go add it to me what I'd more though.
Starting point is 00:22:16 The Northwestern defensive tackle slash edge player. He's just a bigger defensive line, which I actually think would, one, be perfect for what the Denver Bron think would, one, be perfect for what the Denver Broncos need. Two, be perfect for a Rex Ryan defense, even if Rex Ryan ends up being the guy. Broncos pick it back-to-back, though. Yeah, there's a layup here.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I think there's a layup here. Well, there's two. There's a debate, but I think where you're going to go is DeJuan Jones. They need a right tackle so badly. He's off the board for me, I think. Man, going to go is DeJuan Jones. They need a right tackle so badly. He's off the board for me, I think. Man, at 88? 88.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Where did he go off the board? Oh, no, no, no, no. I think he's still here. I also have Bergeron. Yeah, I have Bergeron too. I haven't finished where those two guys are going to end up against each other. Full transparency. Billy Turner's a free agent.
Starting point is 00:23:08 They need a right tackle. Cam Fleming's a free agent. Dalton Reisner's a free agent. They definitely need an offensive lineman. Because Avila's there, but I think I would take the tackle. I don't have Avila. Yes, you do. Really? He's way down. He's 93. Oh, yes, I do. Yes take the tackle. I don't have a Vela. Yes, you do. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:26 He's way down. He's 93. Oh, yes, I do. Yes, I do. He should be higher. I think they'd go DeJuan Jones here. Me too. I think that's who they would go with.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Me too. Although... go with me too although dewan jones is tall russell wilson's not oh russell wilson would be lost behind you'd never see russell wilson does that mean that russell now cannot throw to his right russ is trying to hit a tight end on a quick out route. He can't even see him. To be fair, he doesn't try that anyway. He just rolls out of the pocket every play. Okay. Alright, it's fine. So you might as well draft
Starting point is 00:24:13 the guy that gets in the way. Does that go into the scouting report? DeJuan Jones is 6'8". Oh, he's a skyscraper. Russ is small. Short. Short. Russ is small. Short. Short. You're right.
Starting point is 00:24:29 He's pretty stout. I can't call him small. Are we still picking DeJuan Jones or are we believing that that's an actual factor here? I think we're still taking him. Isn't Bergeron still pretty big? Yeah. Not DeJuan Jones big.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Bergeron's 6'5". Hold five hold on hold on he's dense 322 dewan jones is just massive man he's huge he is six four 322 yeah yeah oh trevor this is a tough one it's tough because i just haven't finished Bergeron yet. Let's just pick the prospect we know, then. DeJuan Jones. Let's go DeJuan Jones. Okay. If you guys want to yell at us in the comments and talk to us about how good Patrice Bergeron is, then we can do that.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Patrice Bergeron, the center for the Bruins? Oh, yeah. I watched the double double header this weekend because i'm never calling matthew berger on anything else ever again that's the good stuff right there it was so natural how you said it you know um so i used to play this is very random and we'll get back to the mock draft in a second early 2000s i used to play a lot of like hockey video games um like any whatever the ea sports nhl was yeah that's all i play to this day and i remember starting franchises and doing like
Starting point is 00:25:55 like fantasy drafts franchises and i remember patrice bergeron was always my go-to that i would pick because he was 19 because he was a 19-year-old center. And Patrice Bergeron is still playing hockey. Yeah. And he's like 37 or something. He's 37, so 18 years later. Yeah, but I mean, there's no way Patrice Bergeron
Starting point is 00:26:17 could play right tackle for the Denver Broncos. And that's why we went with DeJuan Jones. So that brings us to the Rams at 69. We actually get to make three picks in a row here. Nice. The Broncos were 67-68, Rams 69. Wait.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Oh, never mind. Matthew Bergeron. Matthew Bergeron here. Yes. Well, yes. You're going to play him at left tackle in this spot. I mean, come on. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Or Steve Avila. Pick an offensive lineman. Bergeron. I think he could swing to guard if you need him to. Bergeron. Are you sure? No, but I'm still going to say Bergeron. They need a left guard. They need a lot on that left side of the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And I think they kind of like Joe Nobu, though. They do? Why? I don't know. I felt like something that I heard during the season was like, yeah, I mean, they're cool with Joe Noboom. Oh, he has a contract that I was not aware of. Yeah, they paid him.
Starting point is 00:27:18 They paid this entire offensive line, which is bad. They paid Brian Allen, Havenstein, and Noboom. nope boom all right apologies to me that i did not know about nope boom's contract what's the deal with nope boom what's his uh it's not insane but you're not cutting him this year he's on a three or 40 million dollar contract 25 is guaranteed he only saves you 2.5 if you cut him this year. Even if you cut him post-June, you're still on the cap of $7 million in dead money. He's not getting cut. God, torn Achilles in week six.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah. So it's Avila. Man, he tore his ACL and his MCL in 2019 too. That's not good. He had a calf injury. They put him on IR in 2020. This dude's always hurt. Yeah, the calf injury is scary because that often can lead to the tears.
Starting point is 00:28:11 If you think that Bergeron could also play inside. I do. I really do. Then I'd probably pick him no matter what. Okay, let's take him then. And it's not like he's a lighter offensive tackle, right? He's 325, so he could play inside. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:24 All right, Matthew Bergeron. Patrice Bergeron. So that ends our Rams section, where we got the Matthew Bergeron for the offensive line and Deontay Banks at corner. That's a nice day, too, for the Rams. Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, you're welcome. Sean McVay, if you want to invite us to the Malibu Draft House,
Starting point is 00:28:38 where they go and have this draft party, but they don't make any picks, Trevor and I will show up. They just poop on the Patriots first-rounders's right i forgot it's literally what they do they laugh at teams reaching unreal unreal we also made that clip was incredible this is so good the oh i it's like a robot i think i tweeted it out at one point. It's a classic. So the Dolphins are back on the clock for the second of three picks we will make for them. They got John Michael Schmitz,
Starting point is 00:29:13 big time center help at 51. We are on the clock for them at 77. We debated corner at that other pick. I still have Tyreek Stevenson here, Trevor. Is that unfair? Do you? I think that's probably unfair. I think the corners are going higher than what we have them currently ranked.
Starting point is 00:29:32 I think they're going higher. I will say if these are Mike's rankings, which I'm assuming they are, I align with him on Stevenson more than the general draft media consensus where I've seen him as a round one guy. I think Stevenson is much more top around three player. So I just kind of want to shout that out that I don't think this is crazy, but I do agree that the NFL projection is probably different. Is there anyone with insane speed?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Devon a chain is here. A chain is here. Wow. You're a madman. I like it. When is their next pick? We, we make the pick in the 80s i thought uh 84 i think we're taking a change at 85 at 80 at 80 yeah 84 85 whatever 85 84 whatever it is what do you what do you think of clark phillips here by the way oh is that hot sauce
Starting point is 00:30:20 i mean i like yeah igben agony was not a good pick for them it hasn't worked out Is that hot sauce? I mean, I like... Yeah. Igbenogany was not a good pick for them. It hasn't worked out. They had the Villanova corner playing in the slot for them. Who held his own? Oh, no, no, no. Well, Caterco, who's awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I wouldn't say awesome. I think he's... He was awesome. I thought he was good. I'll push back on you a little bit. I thought he was awesome. But they could still use a corner. Yeah, I agree. And Carr Phillips, to me, is somebody who you can play inside now. Exactly where I was going with that.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Because Buckner hasn't worked out for them. We think he's a post-June cut. Xavier Howard, as much as he had an average year by his standards, he's a great player. Javon Holland is awesome on the back end. Hopefully Brandon Jones is back healthy. I think you got to get a versatile corner here. I'm with you on Clark Phillips.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I got him on the block too. All right, cool. Clark Phillips. Which we already gave away 84. Now it's 84. I mean, good job. Where is he? Devon A. Chain.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Bring him home, baby. Bring him home. I got nervous he went he didn't a chain no so the dog not even not even the mock draft machine could disrespect destiny like that so the dolphins who have jaylen waddle and tyree kill is raheem mostard on a what is raheem mostard's deal oh is he uh what'sem Mostert's deal? Oh, is he a... What's his deal? What's up with this guy? Mostert is a free agent. What's up with Raheem Mostert? He'll be back.
Starting point is 00:31:53 He just goes where Mike McDaniel goes. Smart man. So they get a chain. They're the fastest team the NFL's ever seen. Yeah. Pretty fun. Fastest team in the East. Brown's up at 98.
Starting point is 00:32:05 This is a compensatory selection. We have three compensatory. No, we have, we have three compensatory picks for the, for the Niners. That's after this. Yep.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Right. We're right. But I'm saying, okay, you're right. We, we started the show not knowing in the simulator. They have 99,
Starting point is 00:32:21 one Oh one and one Oh two. Yeah. Pretty, pretty sweet. Four. We'll, we'll get to that, and 102. Yeah. Pretty sweet. We'll get to that in a second. Okay, who did we have the Browns take? Not a wide receiver because you're an absolute hater. You fought for Tank Dell in the top 45.
Starting point is 00:32:36 And then he went 49th. And then the Packers laughed in my face and took him 45th in mine. Wow, get absolutely smoked. Get destroyed. We took Keanu Benton, which was just a phenomenal selection for the Cleveland Browns. I think that was a good pick. I think it was a good pick. And now you could probably still find a 145 pound wide receiver somewhere. Pick 98
Starting point is 00:32:54 if you want one for them. Alright, so Charlie Jones, come on down. Definitely not. Definitely not a 145 pound receiver in Charlie Jones. Alright, so do we want a wide receiver though? Yeah, I know who I want a wide receiver though yeah i know who i want oh man i i know who i would prefer but the other guy makes more sense compared to what they need you ready for this is michael willison still there oh i didn't even think of him well yeah
Starting point is 00:33:21 he is because he's so low on the rankings because we haven't updated him yet. You could probably get him in like the seventh round in this thing. People are going to send us so many mocks with Michael Wilson in the seventh round. Got him. Oh, man. It's going to be like when people hit on the sneakers app and it says got him with the shoes. It's going to be a cutout of Michael Wilson.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It says got him. Seventh round. Parentheses. Pick 53. Sick stuff. out of michael wilson it says got him seventh round parentheses pick 53 sick stuff it's an underrated meme when people use the sneakers got him and then just like pay something else there i'm actually gonna tweet this out so the player i like that's on the board is A.T. Perry, your boy. I think they need speed, and that's not his game. Yeah, you know what I'm worried about is he would basically play the same exact role that Donovan Peoples-Jones plays, but Donovan Peoples-Jones is actually athletic.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Exactly, which is why I like Tyler Scott or Andre Yosefus here better. Just two uber athletes. You know, I kind of like Xavier Hutchinson. You don't think that once again, though? Like, he's not a guy that runs well. No, but... Okay, I'm trying to picture Deshaun Watson play action vertical offense. And they just don't have that guy to me.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Sure, DPJ can do it. Sure, but I think DPJ should be your full-time vertical guy. Amari Cooper should just be your go-to wide receiver that you're moving all over the place. And then honestly, Xavier Hutchinson's just good at the game. He's a good route runner. He just understands how to win at theinson, just good at the game. Like he's a good route runner. You know, he just understands. He understands how to win at the position, especially at the senior bowl.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I was really impressed by how well he was able to play at the senior bowl. And I'll tell you what, they've got David Bell on the depth chart starting. If you want to talk about guys who are not athletic enough to win, David Bell's not athletic enough to win. He never was. I didn't really understand the pick when they made it and given him that opportunity there he was a super productive player purdue he's just not a great athlete and i know xavier hutchinson's kind of got those same concerns but i had big time athleticism concerns with david bell yeah boy for hutchinson it's more just like yeah okay he's not
Starting point is 00:35:41 a burner but he's still a good receiver i would go with i would honestly so this is pick number 98 i mean if we're being if we're if we're if we're being completely honest do we think that michael wilson will be on the board at 98 yes then we should probably pick michael wilson right probably one last thing on dpj he's a free agent after this year so though we'll cross that bridge when we get there but just keep that in mind what is michael wilson just going to be all medical based yeah probably right like that has to be it because he's just he was he was just such a good player down in mobile i don't know i mean i i know we're kind of what we
Starting point is 00:36:25 literally just made the meme about ourselves and if we pick michael wilson he ends up going you know like 54th overall in the actual draft people are gonna look at us and be like you picked him in 98 in february no i think you're on i think that's who we take i think it's completely justified to take michael wilson at 98 you know it's our show we're doing it it's it is our show it's completely justified to take Michael Wilson at 98. You know, it's our show. We're doing it. It is our show. It's our new YouTube channel. Yep. Fancy and brand new, not dusty.
Starting point is 00:36:52 We're taking Michael Wilson. Become ungovernable. That's what our new YouTube channel is. Yeah. That's the motto. We were the bad boys of PFF with running backs, and we literally got booted and had to make our own channel because we were just so bad because we said too many nice things about running backs
Starting point is 00:37:10 we put bijan robinson in the first round every mock and they're like all right you guys are not for us so all right so the next four picks of the mock draft machine to round out the third round niners chiefs niners niners yep hope you're ready baby let's do it dude they have so many free agents that this will be a fun one to revisit after free agency because they'll bring people back it's a great place to play but man you can find needs at every point of the defense. Samson Ebicom, Charles Amenahue, Kerry Heider, Aziz Elshir, Emmanuel Mosley, Deshaun Gibson, Jimmy Ward, Jason Barrett are all free agents from the defense. So, I think they're, man, unless the injury is bad, like I've got to think they're going to bring back emmanuel mosley so i would think so too even though they need a corner i think they're
Starting point is 00:38:11 bringing back mosley and they're going to be they can they can be confident with him starting on the outside because he was great before he got hurt yep um and ward was a really great signing for them so if they have that duo back they're fine i think i think free safety is huge hufanga took a massive step forward this year and he was an incredible difference maker for them but they still need that like single high kind of safety player unfortunately not a ton of those guys in this draft but hey that's an option for them um you know maybe another pass rusher you mentioned he becomes a free agent if they don't bring him back man he's a free agent i also man like how much you count on jovan kinlaw at this point i hate bringing that up but he's hurting not bring it up he's hurt and unproductive he did not look good the last
Starting point is 00:38:54 time i saw him play so i think defensive line's tough unless they really believe in him and shoot out man i hope that they do they also have mike mclinchy as a free agent so big free agent i feel like a lot of money's got to go to McGlinchey. They're going to lose people. They don't have anybody. But you know what I'm saying? If the money is going to go anywhere, it's got to go to McGlinchey because they don't really have anybody in a tank to take over for him.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Who's playing center for this team next year? They would need a center too. Because I would take either Joe Tippman or Luke Whipler here, the Ohio State center. I mean, we can make him one of the picks. I think center has to be one of these three picks. All right. And then we could at least write in that we think McGuinn should be back.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Watch us pick somebody else and the Chiefs are just going to pick. They have Creed Humphreys, so thank God no. But that would be funny. All right. All right. I'm scrolling the list here. I'm looking for anybody who might be. Ooh, Byron Young.
Starting point is 00:40:03 The Alabama D-lineman. Yep, that would fit. Could potentially. Get a little tougher on the inside. All right, okay. A couple corners that do fit what they need. Kyle Blue Kelly is here. Julius Brents is, too.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Oh, nice. Brents is exactly what they like, that long, smooth kind of corner. Oh, man, I think they'd like Brents a lot. Yeah, that's one, smooth kind of corner. Oh, man. I think they like Brents a lot. Yeah, that's one that's kind of a no-brainer Niners guy. Jake Hayner's here, so if they draft Jake Hayner, he'll just be a Super Bowl quarterback, clearly. One game away, but yes.
Starting point is 00:40:42 No, no, no. He'll take it. Oh, he's Jake Hayer gets over the hump yeah man i just don't like any of the safeties that are left no this got ugly quick by the way you know chris chris smith is still here from georgia and i think he's a good player but he's a strong safety yep i don't really think he's like a full-time free safety same with demarco hellams i still have gervin dexter on the board i mean you're not you're not drafting gervin dexter after you just drafted javon kinlaw and it didn't work out are you at 99 it's a little different than a top 15 pick okay that's fair okay that's fair you know because at least at
Starting point is 00:41:16 least dexter is is a tough guy it's fine yeah it's fine yeah screw you is right absolutely yeah okay so let's pick... Wait, we don't want to pick Whittler here. Who's the other one that we wanted to pick? Tipman is a good player, too. No, no, no, no, no. I mean, we don't want to pick center because the Chiefs can't snipe us at 100.
Starting point is 00:41:35 No, no, no. We have Byron Young and Zach Pickens if we want to go D-line. I'd probably go Byron Young. I would, too. So we'll go Byron Young. Okay, Byron Young. So Byron Young... Luke Whittler! No, I'm just kidding. The Chiefs took Dexter, by the way. go byron young i would too so we'll go byron young okay byron young so byron young and the
Starting point is 00:41:46 chiefs whittler no i'm kidding the chiefs the chiefs took dexter by the way oh wow so there it went smart we probably should have picked what i should have done where is he for me i was i was he's gone he only went he only went 92 yeah he's low in this all right so then let's pick um whittler okay from ohio state so they get a center so you got you got interior defensive Yeah, he's low in this. All right. So then let's pick Whipler. Okay. From Ohio State, so they get a center. So you got interior defensive line with Byron Young. You got a center.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I would take a corner here. I got Jalen Jones. That makes the most sense. I don't have Jalen Jones. He's already gone. Caio Blue Kelly. Yeah, I think Jones goes before this, so we'll wipe him off. Blue Kelly is here for me. Julius Brents.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Riley Moss. Riley Moss? And one more that I really like. This is actually where the sweet spot is for the corner depth of this class. Where is he? Keetro Clark is here, and I love Keetro Clark, but I don't think you've got to pick up a 102. DJ Turner was the last guy
Starting point is 00:42:50 out of the corners. The Niners don't pick until 158. They might be able to get Clark at 158. It's the fifth round, though. I think Brents is the guy. I think Brents is probably the guy. Brents or... guy. Yeah. Brent's or yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Bigger, longer outside corner. You just take it a chance on him. Played really well. The first couple of days of the senior bowl practices, since he's on the same page as Brent's Derek parish, the Houston edge and fullback did not get a combine invite. Kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Julius Brent's Carl Brooks. Julius Brents, Carl Brooks, Julius Brents measured in at six foot three, 202 pounds and an 82 and seven eighths inch wingspan. Yeah. He's a freak. So we call nutty folks. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Niner's did really well there. I'm going to go Julius Brents. You go with that. Yeah. That's what I, that's, I already did it. So how about that?
Starting point is 00:43:44 How about that? I can't, I just get, I'll go screw myself i guess um all right oh wait it's only got the first round mock where's the uh yeah i didn't i noticed that too where's the actual oh full results. Yeah, we work here. So, for the Los Angeles Rams, at pick number 36, we have them taking cornerback Deontay Banks from Maryland. Is there a quick way to do this? I don't think there is. All right, I'm just going to scroll.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Just going to keep scrolling. Browns took Keanu Benton at 42. Well, I was just going to go full calls. Team by team? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah so the rams got deontay banks then we gave him matthew bergeron which i think is a great one-two punch you know you're welcome i think that was a very good one browns went kianu benton very opposite of tank dell at 42 and then we gave him michael wilson at 98 so you know what all things considered that was probably the right call. I don't like to admit the commenter's right very often, but I think that that was the right call there.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Interesting. For the Miami Dolphins, we have them taking John Michael Schmitz, the center from Minnesota, at number 52. Then we have them taking Clark Phillips, the cornerback from Utah at 77 and Devon a chain, the Uber fast tailback from Texas A&M at number 84. Where were, who's the other? Oh,
Starting point is 00:45:15 Broncos back to back. I had them taking out. It's me. We'll add a bar. I, the defensive lineman from Northwestern, who was just a big end. You had them taking Zach Harrison,
Starting point is 00:45:24 I believe at that selection. And then one pick later, we went with DeJuan Jones, who was just a big end. You had them taking Zach Harrison, I believe, at that selection. And then one pick later, we went with DeJuan Jones, the offensive tackle from Ohio State. So you went back-to-back Ohio State there. Russell Wilson. The biggest humans from the Buckeyes. Russell Wilson no longer able to throw to his right, which is a shame. But yeah, it's just something that Sean Payton's going to have to work with.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And then finally, for the San Francisco 49ers, their haul. We went with Byron Young at 99, Luke Weipler at 101, the center from Ohio State, and then Julius Brent's the corner from Kansas State at 102. Not bad. There it is. Giving some love to the five teams that do not have first round picks. As always, folks.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I needed to because we've both done this what find luke whipler's pronunciation oh it is whipler that's what uh si.com is telling me okay all right i mean but honestly yeah it's pronounced whi Okay. Because that would have driven me nuts for the next three months. Cool Whip. Yeah, Cool Whipler. Cool Whip. Let us know what you guys thought of our pronunciations of Luke Whipler and every other pick that we had in this draft.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Whether you are a fan of the Rams, the Broncos, the Browns, the Dolphins, and the Niners, or if you just want to comment on our picks, let us know in the YouTube comments. Appreciate everybody for subscribing to the channel already. We absolutely love all you guys for doing that. So many subscribers already. We really appreciate it. Love building this little NFL draft community that we have here,
Starting point is 00:46:56 and the best way to communicate with it is on the YouTube comments. Maybe we'll get a Discord or a Slack channel or something like that someday, but as of right now, the best way to do it is in the YouTube comments. So we would love to hear from you and what you thought of this mock draft, the total hauls, the team needs, how we approach things, everything. If you're listening to this on audio only, we still love you. You can hit us up on Twitter, at Tampa Bay Trey, at Connor J. Rogers. You can hit us up on Instagram as well with the same handles.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I think we did good, my friend. I really think so too. I think it's very easy when you are handling that many teams outside of round one to kind of, you know, slip on the banana peel when it comes to team needs. Oh, we could never. And I think we're pretty damn close. And then free agency will change literally all of it,
Starting point is 00:47:40 and the show won't matter. We'll actually delete it from the YouTube immediately. Of course, right. So we can never be proven wrong. Well, the whole channel is just going to be gone. Yeah. We'll wipe the channel after every single week.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Watch as long as you can. Just warning everyone right now. Wait, when did you say we're going to wipe the channel after every draft or every show? No, every week. Oh,
Starting point is 00:48:01 okay. Sure. As soon as Sunday hits the week, the videos from the week before are gone. That's actually pretty brilliant. We would never be wrong. We would also never be right. No, we can recall that.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Just nobody can call us out for being wrong. Exactly. Appreciate you guys. Welcome to the channel, folks. Appreciate you guys listening and getting in on the show. We got one more episode for you this week. It's probably the most anticipated early position ranking that we have. We wanted to do it before the combine because we want to have one before the combine,
Starting point is 00:48:36 and we want to get one after the combine. It is the wide receiver ranking show. We're going to try to watch as many of these guys as we can for some of these positions. You watch about 10 of these guys, and you go, okay, I got a good feeling of the guys that are going to be to watch as many of these guys as we can you know for some of these positions you watch about 10 of these guys and you go okay i got a good feeling of the guys are going to be impact players for the class but wide receiver it's so different we're going to try to get i don't know 15 20 these guys watched i know for final evals we're getting anywhere from 20 25 whatever it is it's going to come close to 30 easily 30 yeah i mean you mentioned in the other podcast how many wide receivers that on average we have you drafted every single year and it's
Starting point is 00:49:04 somewhere low to mid 30s there's just so many different wide receivers so we want to watch as many of these guys as possible but the reason why we love doing this isn't because we just get to watch as many wide receivers as we need to but also because we know y'all have takes on wide receivers everybody every year has takes on wide receivers the ones that they like the ones that they could see breaking out to be superstars, difference makers on different teams and different schemes. That's what makes that discussion so much fun. So we're saving it till the end of the week,
Starting point is 00:49:32 but it's not going to be a Thursday episode for the wide receiver ranking. It's going to be a Friday episode. We're trying to give ourselves an extra day to watch as many of these wide receivers as we possibly can. So don't freak out. If you don't have an episode on Thursday, it's still coming it's coming on friday but you take the extra time to load up on some wide receiver studies load up on some wide wide receiver thoughts and uh and join us in the conversation when we release the episode on friday connor anything else before we get out
Starting point is 00:49:58 of here i'm excited for this one i know people have been asking um we want to do it right we want to make sure we cover not just our top fives the fringe guys we'll get to the combine and then we'll do an episode that's like trevor said probably gonna include 25 wide receivers each what i will say is when we get to those if not a lot change with the top five we'll use those episodes to spend more time on players six to 25 or whatever it is because it's good when you're it's not always good but it's often a good sign when your evals don't change from the combine you just feel comfortable with it so when something really big changes we'll address it when it doesn't we'll move on to the rest of the class so you guys are ready for all three days of the nfl draft yep i am excited for it as well i'm trevor sycamore. That is Connor Rogers. Thank you guys so much for listening to the NFL stock exchange podcast. We'll see you next time.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.