NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 155. Two Round Post Combine 2023 NFL Mock Draft

Episode Date: March 6, 2023

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers recap the Combine in the best way possible: a new two round mock draft! ...

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Starting point is 00:00:37 It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast in this episode we have a brand new two-round post combine mock draft for you guys it's going to include a little bit of trades at the top we've got new destinations for a lot of these quarterbacks from what we heard over combineine as well. But, man, so many other great conversations.
Starting point is 00:01:06 A lot of nuggets, rumors, leanings that we have heard from other teams, what they're going to do. The Combine is fantastic not just for evaluating athletic ability and interviews, but also a lot of those rumors on learning what we think the NFL team is going to do. We are bringing all of that together here in a two-round mock draft. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me, as as always is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sycamore. That is Connor Rogers joining you for what is one of our favorite episodes of the entire year, folks. The NFL Combine is in the books.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Well, not quite. I mean, peer back the curtain. They're still running the running backs right now. But as you are listening to this, the Combine is in the books. So it is time for a brand new mock draft. And because we love you guys so much and because we have heard the cries of the people, we're extending it beyond round one. We are giving you a two round post combine mock draft here on this episode. Connor, are you ready for the journey?
Starting point is 00:02:11 My friend? I am. We've been excited about this one for a long time. Obviously we're back from Indy most like what? 90% of the testing is done. Yep. As we're sitting here, like you said, we're going to get numbers as well to wrap this thing up. And we get to go to the second round today. And just, it's such a better exercise that
Starting point is 00:02:31 way because it allows you to paint a much bigger picture rather than, you know, you make a pick for a team and someone's like, well, how could they do that? They have no tackle or they have no receiver. And it's like, well, we could do that in round two, or we could show where the value lies. So this is, it's time to get deeper into the draft. Let everyone else have the surface level. Let everyone else argue about the four quarterbacks going in the top 10. This is the way we like to do our content. I mean, we are still going to argue about the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:02:53 We'll still do it. But today is where we put our draft expertise to the test where we can't just have the cop out and be like, ah, they can fix that later in the draft. Now we actually have to be the ones to fix it. Maybe we'll even give you guys a three rounder before the end of April rolls around, but we'll extend it to two rounds today. Connor, do you want to do odds or evens? I didn't ask you before the podcast and this one's going to be all jets pick
Starting point is 00:03:16 13 bucks, pick 19. So, Oh no. So whoever gets the odds that reminds me. Yes. And when we do it, I'll shout out the person because i i don't want to open up my messenger right now who came up with the idea because i have to combine on my phone but somebody messaged me and you will get the proper shout out and their idea was in the future can you do an episode that you mock draft for the jets and trevor mock drafts to the bucks and i was like how about we flip it so there will be a show i think where you mock draft for the jets and i mock draft for the bucks and then we get each other's reactions i just had to get that in there i would like to do if it's cool with you i'd actually like to do
Starting point is 00:03:56 the odds okay not to pick for the jets and bucks that's a nice bonus i guess although i don't i actually don't usually like having that scenario personally there's something i really want to discuss uh a couple things i really want to discuss in the top 10 and i think you and i are going to figure out a trade here at number one yeah we're we're going to and you also i wanted to give you the honors of picking either odds or evens because you've been telling me that you got some nuggets, obviously. I do as well. Just listen to people in Indianapolis, hearing which guys could be really on the rise this week.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Some stocks that were up even before some of the podiums and the, the testing. And obviously, you know, we've got the head coaches and the general managers who were hanging out around Indianapolis in the early parts of the week. So I wanted to give you this because I wanted to see if there was a batch of teams that you could bring up. Maybe some of the things that you have heard. This podcast is all about too.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I couldn't really make out, you know, perfectly with this. There's a couple of evens I'll chime in on, but yeah, the odds, the odds will work out. The odds will work out. I was distracted. I was listening to you, but I was distracted as Devon. A chain was running his 40. It was an unofficial34 which is amazing obviously come on trash but i was like i was kind of disappointed i was like oh man i was hoping for like a 425 but so i had to catch that now i don't care for the rest of them the uh the official well that we're gonna we're just gonna we're just gonna pencil in that's a three points for for trev because i had uh devon a chain in in the uh the combine draft which we will recap later this week
Starting point is 00:05:29 but that is for another episode buddy you're picking for number one overall it's the chicago bear sitting there at number one overall and i gotta say this i felt like the quarterbacks all handled this combine week very very well yeah anthony richardson we knew he was athletic but historically athletic is something totally different Will Levis loved his interview session I'm sure he interviewed great with a lot of teams he's very personal the ball was just firing off his wrist when he was throwing at the combine Bryce Young not being historically small even though we know he probably won't play above 200 for weight not being historically small was definitely to his
Starting point is 00:06:04 advantage and then CJ Stroud man I mean did he miss a throw I mean did he miss a single throw he probably won't play above 200 for weight. Not being historically small was definitely to his advantage. And then CJ Stroud, man. I mean, did he miss a throw? I mean, did he miss a single throw out there on the field? Unbelievable. So love these guys at the podium. Love what they were able to do on the field. And I say all that to say the price of number one just went up, man.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I know what you could say. Oh, well, if all the QBs did well, then maybe these guys are going to settle. Ain't going to settle. I don't think they're going to settle. I think these teams, whether it's the Panthers, the Raiders, the Titans, the Falcons, whoever it's going to be,
Starting point is 00:06:35 they're going to have their eyes on a quarterback out of this group that they really want, and they're not going to want to get beat out for them. So what are your thoughts right now with number one overall? Are you still targeting the Colts? I didn't even mention with number one overall? Are you still targeting the Colts? I didn't even mention the Colts, but are you still targeting the Colts?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Maybe the Texans? Where are you going with this one? Honestly, I'm a little bit more open-minded even going all the way down to nine. If I can just get a massive, massive haul. I think the Panthers are in on coming up. I would think the Colts are in on coming up. Houston's in such a fascinating spot at what they do at two.
Starting point is 00:07:09 So the door is wide open. If I'm the Bears, if I can get just an insane amount of quantity with a team like Carolina, I'm okay. But if I can go to four, I feel really, really good about the type of player I can get there as well. So I would say the door is pretty wide open. It would just depend on what is the gap in price. If Carolina is willing to give what?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Nine, next year's one. At least. And a two. Yeah. That's the trade I want. You would think with Indy, four to one. I mean, you're flipping. Indy's probably going to want to get out of it with number four and then not another first round pick that's what I think I think
Starting point is 00:07:51 did they go two twos they would probably have to go to do ultimately ultimately I do feel like because of the bidding war that's going to happen for number one overall I feel as though Indy's going to have to give up this year's one and next year's one to get it done. I really do think that they're probably, that was my original thought, but that was my original. Can I throw something out there at you, please?
Starting point is 00:08:15 This is the time to do it. Do you think Houston will be interested in moving from two to one? Yes. Okay. So if, if you believe that they are interested in doing that, if you are the Bears, what about trading down twice? What about going from one to two, getting what you can out of Houston,
Starting point is 00:08:43 maybe recouping just that early second round pick that you lost from chase the chase claypool trade maybe you recoup that early second round pick just with the texans to move from one to two and then you can still move down from two to four or nine and get even more hauls that way with more picks and perhaps you could even move more picks to next year's class so i don't know man what i love it i thought about that. A couple of people have actually messaged us that over the last 24 hours or so, a couple of people, at least on Instagram have done that with me, but I was thinking about the idea a little bit earlier this week as well, and bringing it all into, I guess, a practical proposal.
Starting point is 00:09:22 What do you think about that? I'm in on and i think i know my route i want to go okay i would do you want you have control of two would you would you flip for the texans second round pick this year i think you have to right i i think there are texans there's texans fans out there who might say no no no no that's too rich you're moving up one spot you're giving up an early second round pick it's essentially a late first rounder that might be too much but you gotta you gotta remember this for everybody out there who might be arguing that they're not just bidding for the distance between two to one that's yeah bidding against the Colts they're bidding against the Raiders they're bidding against the Panthers they're bidding against the Titans they're bidding against the Falcons. They're bidding against the Raiders. They're bidding against the Panthers. They're bidding against the Titans.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They're bidding against the Falcons, maybe. So I think you do have to give up that early second rounder. And you know, you already have 12. You know, you already have 12. So that's what helps. So let's just say, let's go 33 and two for number one. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And for those arguing this, like there will be a format for that. I don't think this is necessarily it. We're trying to get close in this spot. And I really think that's close. I really think that's close because the alternative could be the quarterback you love could go to your division rival in Indy when they jump you. Keep that in mind. Very good point. A very astute observation. My good word. Astute's a good word. All right.ute observation, my good man. Astute's a good word. All right, so we're going to go.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So are you picking at one now or am I picking? We'll keep the teams. So you will get the number one overall pick with Houston. I will operate as Chicago and see what I can come up with out of that two spot. I'm still going Bryce Young. Bryce Young's still my guy. Good lad. Good lad.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Look, he's he's gonna even if you told me bryce young is gonna play at one night whatever fine i don't like i don't care again we talked about this plenty the middle part of the week we've talked about it since bryce young's combine weight measurement wouldn't did not really matter unless he was going to be like terribly historic on the bad side of things he's not even though his play weight's going to be lower is the best player in college football over the last two years i'm still taking bryce young number one overall so i'm going bryce to start this out to the houston texans no argument from me um i've done
Starting point is 00:11:39 some radio this weekend and i you always get the question and i i say wow brag uh yeah sick um you never never get to sleep that's all i wanted to do but i i you know everybody i appreciate everybody uh that has me on we have fun and i say the same thing i i still think it's bryce young i still think it's number one overall the question to me and this could change by the way uh keaton mitchell with a 438 oh that was my uh my swapperoo so i gave you a sweat there you were gonna win it because because keaton mitchell i think finished second in the broad and second in the vert so i was like all right young man's explosive yeah for those that don't know we've said it before trevor did let me swap my guys that don't do anything uh and and more of my guys didn't do anything. And more of my guys didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Even some of my substitutes didn't do anything. But Keaton Mitchell was my running back swap for the 40 and did decide to run. So thank you for at least trying, Keaton Mitchell. And he gave us an injection of energy. So yeah, Bryce Young goes one to the Texans. Bears are back on the clock. That's my team here, even though I'm picking odds.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yep. And Trevor, I am trying to trade yet again. Okay. And boy, do I have the perfect partner. I got to answer that call with Carolina. And I think, man, I've been on this one for a little bit, but the price of the brick changed i want if i'm carolina i want cj stroud on my football team okay that's that's what i want i'm comfortable
Starting point is 00:13:12 going up okay um even though i'm picking for carolina trevor i would like you to operate as scott fitterer for the trade capital conversation here so i'm not i'm not maddening this thing and trading my with myself uh-huh so let's say I'm at two if I'm Chicago I will give Carolina two I will go back to nine but I also need their 2024 first round pick yeah I mean that's look if if Carolina is Carolina might be screwing themselves a little bit here if this scenario actually comes out this way or anybody really because at first you're going to be calling chicago for number one overall and i think the price is going to be higher right carolina might be in a situation where they're opting to give a first round pick this year a first round pick next year and then
Starting point is 00:13:58 like two one or two date two picks to move up from nine up to number one so maybe they're screwing themselves over because the price is high. And maybe Chicago is like, all right, same trade. And they're like, whoa, whoa,
Starting point is 00:14:09 whoa. Not the same trade because one quarterbacks off the board, but it's going to be an interesting back and forth. I think if you knock you the one or the two additional picks outside of the first rounders off, that is probably where you come to an agreement. So I, how about a sweetener? how about a sweetener so since
Starting point is 00:14:28 it's the flip of two to nine if i'm chicago but i'm getting the 2024 first rounder i think carolina is in position to win that division uh chicago is not even close in my eyes. I will send back pick 134 that once belonged to the chiefs. So Carolina gets two and one 34. Chicago gets nine and next year's first. I know it's not crazy, but it's still a pig in the top one 50. That could be a contributor this year. You know,
Starting point is 00:15:03 my only counter to that would be this the rams valued brian burns the two first round picks so why don't we just send brian burns over to the chicago bears and we'll just call it even done done oh my god it'll never get old no okay so i think that that's good nine and next year's first for for number two and 134 this year. Yep. Yep. I like it. Okay. Okay. We are going to force that trade. Force the trade. Although the simulator told me very likely to be accepted with a full green bar. Yeah. Obviously, look, we're using PFS mock draft simulator and i love this tool i really do trade values are so difficult to um quantify especially like year to year i would say it's just so different every year the situation the context means so much so i think that we are
Starting point is 00:15:55 ballparking this in the right area you've got the carolina panthers then at number two and you're taking cj shroud i'm taking cj shroud uh greatoud. Great week for C.J. Stroud. Great year for C.J. Stroud. Boy, Stroud developing under Reich, McCown, that staff. The offensive line is on the come up. D.J. Moore is going to be a thousand yard guy again. I love everything about this fit. It's remarkable. I hope it happens for both parties involved. And good for Chicago. You have a war chest of draft assets to use to rebuild your defense and help Justin Fields. Ryan Poles, depending on who they get to pick at number nine, could be just the most liked man in the Chicago area.
Starting point is 00:16:38 That puts the Arizona Cardinals up at number three. This one's pretty easy for me. I think I talked about this. That would be me, partner. Oh, it is. Because three, you know you know trev when you really think about it when you put it to paper when you actually you know devote some brain power to it three is an odd number you check the math you do the. It's an odd number. It comes after an even number. It comes before an even number.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's odd. Yes. You know, I forgot about that, that an even number was on either side of it. That's the part that I totally forgot. So, all right, let me set a reminder here before I get destroyed. Yes. This mock draft is an effort a lot of the time to think what teams are trying to do. Correct.
Starting point is 00:17:31 I left Indy thinking Arizona in this scenario, quarterback, quarterback, them on the clock. I left Indy thinking there's a real chance they take Tyree Wilson at three. I really did. Obviously, I don't rank it that way. There's a lot to be figured out with Jalen Carter over these next two months, and I'm sure they'll be figured out.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I think Will Anderson is the better prospect than Tyree Wilson, and I think Tyree Wilson's a really, really good player with an unbelievable ceiling. And I left Indy thinking that Arizona is, there's a lot more debate to this pick than people would think. A lot of people would go, well, if Jalen Carter's, you know, having issues, it's Will Anderson. And I think it could be Tyree Wilson. So I will go Tyree Wilson at three, the first defensive player off the board. Wow, man. I, I obviously, you know, my thoughts. I'm not nearly as bullish on Tyree Wilson personally as like my own personal scouting as I am with, with you, me, the NFL. Correct. Yes. Correct. No, it clearly the league likes to do.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I liken this. They're not the same same player i'm not saying that they are this is this isn't this isn't a comp but i think you and i have talked about this before on this show tyree wilson is getting the trayvon walker type of treatment where you look at the tape you look at how much potential he has you look at what's actually been the production that we've seen over the last couple of years and the nfl takes trayvon walker number one overall and it just feels as though, you know, we got to the point doing mock drafts last year where even though you and I liked Trayvon Walker,
Starting point is 00:19:13 but even I, I think I had him outside of my top five edges or he ended up being number five for the edges for me. Like there just came a point to where when you're doing a predictive mock, if you didn't have Trayvon at number one, it was wrong. Like there's just, there's no point in being um stubborn about it so man i also heard this week that tyree willison could potentially be the first defender off the board now i don't know how much smoke that is but hey we're doing an exercise and we're researching
Starting point is 00:19:38 what it might look like if that is the case so number four connor you are you're on the clock i promise okay thank you thank you i just wanted to i wanted to double check with you there you know our guy is still here this i think i know where you're going but there's a funny aspect to this our guy is still here for months now we have a year we have a year we have been declaring that Will Levis is a Cole. He's on the board. And I'm not picking him. I had a feeling. I'm picking Anthony Richardson.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I'm picking Anthony Richardson. Can't argue. I understand people out there might be screaming at the car, at their AirPods, at their computer speakers, wherever you guys are listening to this show. And they might say, what are you doing? We didn't learn anything from the combine. We already knew that Anthony Richardson was going to be athletic. I do think it's different. I think it's different when all 32 NFL GMs and head coaches watch this guy in person,
Starting point is 00:20:45 stand next to this guy in person, interview this guy in person. And I think that makes it a lot harder to not try to take a chance on him. So for the Colts, they are, you have mentioned so many times, time and time again, Bauer's a traits guy. A lot of the quarterbacks that he has tried to go after have been these big time traits guy. I think that's where he's going to look again in this draft. And if you are comparing willing,
Starting point is 00:21:13 will Levis's traits for Santhony Richardson's traits, Richardson hasn't beat out for as great of an arm as Levis has. Sure. If you look at both of these quarterbacks, accuracy and decision-making concerns are both. Therefore you are going to have to improve both of these guys and their and decision making concerns are both there for you are going to have to improve both of these guys and their consistency so if you're going to do that do that with the one that might have the higher overall ceiling one of the highest ceilings we
Starting point is 00:21:34 have ever seen at the quarterback position uh so i'm going to go with richardson here number four hard to disagree for me you know there's no comp perfect comp playing right now in the league for anthony richardson i know guys that have played people look at cam i saw some dante cold pepper it's a tough player to come up with but if you're looking for somebody in the league that you you think okay that could be the best of anthony richardson i think it's josh allen yeah And they're not the same, but right? Like that's the, like even the weaknesses, like Josh Allen's a great player. He still makes mistakes. He's still reckless.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Led the league in turnover where he plays this year. Led the league. He's reckless where a lot of times that works out amazing for him. And sometimes it doesn't. And I think Richardson could be that kind of player. Ballard loved Joshosh allen that year like but when everybody didn't didn't love josh allen ballard like like it goes back to the process of traits and development and ceiling out of that position so five is the seahawks in a situation that I really think this can happen. The Seahawks
Starting point is 00:22:46 are sitting here at five. They haven't moved. They're picking because of the Russell Wilson trade in this spot. And Jalen Carter and Will Anderson are staring them in the face. How many mocks have we done where neither of them were on the board? I would say every single one. Yeah, like at least 95% of the mock drafts that we've done, neither of them have been on the board. And here we are. The Jalen Carter news comes out last week. Who knows how that's going to affect his stock?
Starting point is 00:23:10 You know, you end up taking Tyree Wilson over Will Anderson. But man, you saying it out loud like that has me shook. So what are you doing? It's Jalen Carter. And they are a franchise that has no fear of taking guys with question marks because they are talented. This is how Pete Carroll and John Schneider have operated. They've done it for a long time, and they have a need, an interior defensive line. They do.
Starting point is 00:23:40 If you look at their pass rush table, it's been overblown. Yeah, they need help there, but what is Boye Amate going to look like in year two, right? They had guys take steps this year. So I go with Jalen Carter and go, your defensive line just changed entirely. The whole thing just changed entirely. So Seattle, they're willing to take that risk and it could pay pay off with a unique player that's an all-pro. Man. There's a way that I could make this next selection that makes the next two selections very easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I could pick Christian Gonzalez here at number six who i think i think christian gonzalez is going to be cb1 off the board this year and just a lot the lions are in on that the top of the corner market all i heard all week was the top of the corner market for teams right now is gonzalez depending who you ask witherspoon porter and then like banks cam smith they're really good man like all those guys but gonzalez then there seems to just love the flavor of witherspoon that brash sticky guy right and porter jr is in there somewhere so i just wanted to get that in there for the lions lions have a major corner need and again i could if i if i go christian gonzalez here not to make the pick for you but i would assume the next two picks after this would
Starting point is 00:25:12 be will levis to the raiders it's easy and then will anderson to the falcons at eight will anderson lasting until number eight to the falcons seems insane yeah i don't i don't love that but things happen but ultimately i just can't i can't the lions need corner but this cornerback class is so good all all due respect to james houston the lions would be taking will anderson here trevor they pick at 18. Right. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And they're going to have another opportunity to get a corner. A good one. So as much as Christian Gonzalez would make for an easy mock draft over the next couple of picks, if Will Anderson's there at six, the Lions are picking Will Anderson. They're picking Will Anderson. It'd be hard not to. So Anderson at six of the Lions. People are going to look at this mock.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Say we just took the screenshot right now. Bryce Young, Stroud, Tyree Wilson, Anthony Richardson, Jalen Carter, Will Anderson. They're going to be like, what? I think things have changed a lot because of the quarterbacks. Yes, indeed. This is fun. We haven't had this path yet. I know.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Now, seven is actually a lot harder than you would think. I am going to go Levis. I will be honest. Okay. The Raiders are a team that have done a ton of work into Devin Witherspoon. A ton. The Raiders understand that they are a borderline piss poor defense on the back end and they need that attitude they need a difference maker Max Crosby amazing player they have some talent up
Starting point is 00:26:55 there but they need a leader in the secondary and I know that that they are, I think they view Witherspoon that way, but they need a franchise quarterback. And if Levis fell to seven, they didn't have to move to get him. I do think that's the route they can go. We've heard everything out there with the Raiders from Jimmy G to Mac Jones to all these different things. Until the pro market passes us by,
Starting point is 00:27:20 this is going to be a popular destination for Will Levis and rightly so. No, I agree. I agree. The Jimmy G stuff, obviously, is what we've heard a lot of lately Will Levis and rightly so. No, I agree. I agree. The Jimmy G stuff obviously is what we've heard a lot of lately. But even if you sign Jimmy G, what are they signing Jimmy G to? A two-year deal? And he plays seven games this year?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Well, all right. Honestly. Well, I hear you. I do. I hear you, though. We certainly, we're not wishing this guy gets hurt. But like, guy's been hurt. Guy's been banged up.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Just kind of is what it is. So like, even if they, even if they signed Jimmy G, drafting Will Levis would actually make that an advantageous situation because then he could sit. That's a, that's good building of a quarterback room is what that is. So you're taking Levis at seven, Falcons at eight. Again, if Will Anderson would have been left on the board, he'd be a target for him.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I think it's just insane. at eight again if will anderson would have been left on the board he'd be a target for him i i think it's just insane even with the quarterback frenzy at the top to think that anderson would last until eight crazy things happen in the nfl draft all the time but that just that just shouldn't be so had to have him go at number six eight you know our early on in the week of course we put out a youtube short that you guys can see i was trying to maybe read between the lines a little bit with terry fontenot saying how much he loved nickel corners um how much he loved guys from georgia and brian branch a guy from georgia who plays nickel very very well he i don't think brian branch tested enough to where it really tempts you to take him at number eight still a phenomenal football player i don't want to i don't want to take that away from him but i feel like this is christian gonzalez
Starting point is 00:28:50 right i i feel like this is the area in which christian gonzalez would be on one side aj terrell's on the other you've got an incredible incredible cornerback duo and there's just not maybe lucas van ness but there's not really a pass rusher that tempts me here more than them getting christian gonzalez so yeah i think that's where i would go maybe you spend a little bit of extra money in a free agency try to attack some some veteran pass rushers that might be hitting the the market in free agency uh and then you spend that number eight pick on something in the secondary so i'm gonna gonna go Christian Gonzalez at eight. That's where I would have gone as well. And that brings,
Starting point is 00:29:26 uh, brings me back to Chicago at nine. Hmm. And you know, I don't think this is a bad scenario for them. I really don't. All the old on the board, all the old linemen are on the board.
Starting point is 00:29:37 If that's the route they want to go, they can take any wide receiver of their choosing at nine. Yeah. Oh, man, you know what? This is... He's struggling, folks. No, I know what I want to do. He's overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I know what I should do. I am overwhelmed. He's fighting between his heart and his head. Yeah, I am. Okay, then I'll lay it out. Okay, please. My head tells me to take Devin Witherspoon because he's the best defensive player on the board
Starting point is 00:30:09 by a pretty wide margin here. My heart tells me to take Jackson Smith and Jake Ba. Ooh! All that matters is the development of your quarterback. You have 9,000 picks now in these next two years. Oh, man. You have 9,000 picks now in these next two years. I will say they did go corner safety in the second round last year. I know. And obviously, they've got Jalen Johnson, too.
Starting point is 00:30:38 My thing for the Bears is in this spot, and this is a good outline of why there's risk trading back to nine. They need help in the front seven. this spot and this is this is a good outline of why there's risk trading back to nine they need help in the front seven i don't love taking any of the front seven players left in the top 10 here i don't i there's things i like about miles murphy and lucas van ness oh okay when you yeah yeah okay i see you know what i mean yeah yeah if you want to have smith and jigba on the board i i was wondering if you were going to decide between wide receiver and O-line because they have their pick of the litter,
Starting point is 00:31:07 like with Broderick Johnson or Paris Johnson Jr. or Peter Skronsky. So I think ultimately, if you're not going to take Witherspoon because you like your secondary, and as much as I would love to take Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, I still would be surprised if they took a wide receiver in the top 10, especially with these extra picks, right? That's the difference. The first tackle off the board for me, then goes to the bears and it's not Peter Skowronski. It's Paris Johnson jr. All right. That's fair. It's fair. I mean, this dude came in to the combine and the measurements are just out of this world out of this world his his arms are 36th and an eighth yeah man dewan jones got like the longest
Starting point is 00:31:53 offensive tackle duo arm length we've ever seen six six and three eights 313 pounds i mean he's built in a lab as a, as an offensive tackle. Yeah. And that's huge for Justin Fields. And Hey, Justin Fields knows I'm pretty well. Like there's no there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:13 There's no even relationship building in that area. So the bears witherspoon was on the table. Jackson Smith and Jigwood was on the table. I ultimately go with the premium position of tackle and get Paris Johnson. I think that's smart, especially because, again, we talked about how deep of a cornerback class is. They want corners. They got extra second round ammo now to be able to hit that. They want wide receiver. They got extra second round ammo to be able to hit that. Exactly. Pick 33. Right. I think you came to the right conclusion there at nine. Eagles at 10. Couldn't
Starting point is 00:32:43 sprint this bad boy in any faster oh man yeah weather spoon sitting here number 10 and he often is in mock draft scenarios right sometimes this is always kind of it go to number six with the lion sometimes he goes to number eight with the falcons but uh if he is there at number 10 he feels like their guy if they let james bradbury walk certainly this is a pre-free agency mock draft. They like James Bradbury walk. You got, you got Darius Slay on one side, Devon Witherspoon on the other. I mean, if Devon Witherspoon is your CB2, you've got a hell of a CB duo, whoever you are, no matter what team. So I'm gonna go with Witherspoon here at number 10. Eagles aren't afraid of drafting those shorter
Starting point is 00:33:19 cornerbacks either. They're letting those feisty, really talented, shorter corners play. And so it just feels like it's the perfect spot for him. So Witherspoon at 10 to the Eagles. That was pretty easy. So the Titans, it's two simple things for me here. It's just a matter of if they think Peter Skowronski could play tackle or if they take Broderick Jones. And Jones tested well.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, he's a freak show. He really is. I this is tough, man. There are going to be teams that I don't, full transparency, I don't know the Titans' thresholds. I mean, Rand Carthen's been there for what, like three weeks? I don't know their thresholds. Talent-wise or pro readiness tells me Skowronski.
Starting point is 00:34:01 A guy that will check every box for every offensive line coach and staff is Broderick Jones because of that arm length, I'll go with Skowronski here. I wouldn't be floored if this, if this changes at some point, it could change. All right. So that was, that was a good debate there because it, and it's funny that you said that I probably would have went with Broderick Jones, even though I love Skowronski. But I think it is up in the air. I think it's, I think it's a coin flip. So you're going with the guy who, I mean, let's face it. I think hasowronski. But I think it is up in the air. I think it's a coin flip.
Starting point is 00:34:25 So you're going with the guy who, I mean, let's face it, I think has the better tape. He just doesn't have the arm length. Doesn't have the overall athleticism. So actually, Skowronski tested decently well, didn't he? Skowronski, there's this weird thing where people think Skowronski is not athletic. And I don't understand. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Skowronski, where are we at here? He had the second highest broad jump. His second highest broad jump, 516 40-yard dash. It's fine. What was the 10-yard split? What did we get out of the box? 175. It's right where you want.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Here's an 8.89 RAS. Oh, great. Shout out at Math Bomb. Ken does such a good job posting those cards. Here's where Skoransky was at, Trevor. Yeah, you had the 518 unofficial, yard 175 vert was 34 and a half that's almost that's a like a phenomenal metric and the broad yeah nine seven so he um he tested really well good football player certified certified stamp houston texans on the clock here at number 12 remember we had them trading up from number
Starting point is 00:35:23 two to number one but they didn't have to give up number 12. We had them taking Bryce Young at number one. I am having them go to the wide receiver well. I'm not really thinking twice about this one. Quentin Johnston is my guy. Look, I had Quentin Johnston as wide receiver two after Jordan Addison going into the week. Addison is smaller than I thought and did not test as well as I thought he was going to.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Still a great route runner. Still a good wide receiver. Quinn Johnson's the guy that you bet on. 100%. He's got the size. He's got the athleticism. And I really do believe that he was held back by quarterback play this past year. All respect. All due respect to Max Duggan.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But I think Quentin Johnson's going to be a better pro. I think he's going to be wide receiver one in Houston. So we're going wide receiver here. We're getting the top guy to choose from in this year's class. So Bryce Young, Quentin Johnson, the new pair for the Houston Texans. The Jets at 13 you know where we're going here Broderick Jones this is really if the Titans took Broderick the Jets takes Karansky the Jets realistically at 13 are looking at whatever of the three top offensive
Starting point is 00:36:37 linemen are left and in that scenario it's Broderick Jones incredible uh athlete funny Trevor he came in bigger than his Georgia listing how often do you see that oh you never see that no you never see that I think he's actually taller so he runs the fastest 40 out of o-line 497 the Jets are obsessed with athleticism on their offensive line ABT was like a 9.99 RAS Bectton was a freak at his size um he he jumped pretty well i want to find his side okay so he came in at 6 5 and 3 8 he was listed at 6 4 and he he had a 9.39 ras as it stands so broderick jones great athlete and jets need help there. So no brainer. Are you locking in on him being the Jets pick?
Starting point is 00:37:30 I feel like you are. I feel like we've gravitated that way. Yeah. That he could be, that he could be a Jet. It's like just playing the game of which one of the three are there. And that's who they take. That's fair. That's fair too.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Patriots at number 14. They love to get them. I should drop in. I am not convinced the Jets are trading that pick for Aaron Rodgers, by the way. What? The first round of this year? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Oh, no. Lord, no. I see it. Like, every time people. No, no, no, no. I think the Jets really want Aaron Rodgers. I'm convinced they will do everything possible to make sure that pick is not in the trade because they want it to take an offensive lineman to protect him. Just want to put that out there.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, no, absolutely. Okay. Also, if a first-round pick's getting dealt, it's not this year's from the Jets. I'd be floored if it was this year's from the Jets. Me too. Because there's way too much money that you still have to pay Rodgers, even if you work something out with Green Bay
Starting point is 00:38:21 where you're splitting some of it. And he picks where he goes. Yeah, and if you're getting the deal done before the draft that means that you can't do if you're getting the deal done before this year's draft in order for it to include this year's first round pick you can't make the trade post j one. Therefore, like the money is like horrible for the green Bay Packers, horrible for the Packers. If they do that on the cap. Yeah. At least if I remember that correctly.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So I think if there's any premium pick for second round pick, that's getting dealt for Rogers. It's next year's anyways. I don't think the Packers are getting this pick, even if Rogers on the chance. So that's a good note to bring up. But yeah, Patriots sitting here at number 14. They also need an offensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I think I'm going to give them one. Oh. I think. Lucas Van Ness is on the board, though. Who are you going to take a tackle? Anton Harrison. Okay. I haven't seen him in the first round yet.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Which would be early. Which would be early for him. I think so. This is a tough board. The Patriots are a team that could really, you could think about them trading up. Or they could do the vintage Bill Belichick
Starting point is 00:39:44 and trade back. Or they could do the vintage Bill Belichick and trade back. Or. Or. I look at Joey Porter here. Let me look at the depth chart. Oh, I mean, okay. Their corner right now locked into contract is Jalen Mills. Stud.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Jonathan Jones is a free agent. Lockdown. They have Jack Jones, of course. Who is Jonathan Jones is a free agent. Lockdown. They have Jack Jones, of course, who is really good as a rookie. McCourty's a free agent. That's secondary. They're going to take, I think they're going to take a corner. Miles Bryant, elite. Sean Wade, high recruit.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Oh, man, what a trajectory that was. Marcus Jones, electric. At returning the football. Yeah, they definitely. Yeah, okay. All right, Joey Porter Jr. I kind of walked you into that one. Joey Porter Jr. it is.
Starting point is 00:40:39 It's a sneaky one. It is sneaky. You're like, oh, wait, this is really bad back here. And they are obsessed with drafting and signing corners. Alright, you're up with the Packers at 15. Packers at 15. I get it.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I get it. They only take big wide receivers. I get it. And this guy's not even small. Do you think there's a chance they take Jackson, Jackson, Smith and Jigba? No, I know. It's so stupid. No, no, I don't either because there's no history telling us that they will know that it feels like green Bay is one of the teams that's most firm on their thresholds. and i feel like they only take big fast receivers i don't know what the exact threshold numbers are no i know
Starting point is 00:41:31 lucas vaness would be there would would absolutely be in their wheelhouse by the way yes if he was on the board for you for them i think so and i think they can get a tight end in round two yeah because i know that's been popular for them they think they're 45 so they're picking the litter here i'll take van ness that's probably smart yeah vanessa 15 to green bay him and rashaun gary kind of freaky all right what are you doing to me here with Washington? Oh, man. What are we doing here? Yeah, this is tricky.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Deontay Banks, maybe? They need interior O-line. They need corner. They need offensive tackle. I'd still think about Anton Harrison. I'd still think about anton harrison i still think about darnell right but i i didn't see in my head those guys were more comfortable like back into the first round guys but at the end of the day it's a premium position if these teams think that they need a premium position they're probably gonna take a chance on one deontay banks is good though
Starting point is 00:42:40 he's real good i think it's probably between banks and probably banks and torrence but at that point i think you pick banks yeah i think so too all right we're going with deontay banks i don't mean to sound not stoked about it because that's dope deontay banks insane athlete one of the best cover corners in this class. Been telling y'all. And I think he tested incredibly. So even if the ball skills aren't exactly what you think or what you want them to be, he's still a phenomenal corner.
Starting point is 00:43:16 So yeah, Banks is 16. So the Steelers are on the clock at 17. They have the 32nd pick in this draft because of the chase claypool trade so keep that in mind here man this one this one's really tough trev because because joey porter jr's off the board because he's off the board they could use a tackle yeah they could use a corner just go back to back pittsburgh to pittsburgh first round connections oh you're thinking khalajikansi here i mean maybe it's fun him next to hayward would be fun it would be a lot of fun that would be fun this is a really brutal spot for them like it's it's as much as i like him it's too early for dj turner
Starting point is 00:44:12 oh ranch is a good player but they don't need that kind of player way too right here dj turner in my opinion man i think it might be darnell wright okay what, but he's a true right tackle. Tennessee tried the left tackle experiment. Yeah. But, um, um, Chuck O'Core for played left tackle at Western Michigan. So you flip him. So you could, yeah, you could, you could easily flip him. He's played left before right. Tried to play left. And I don't think that he was very good at it, but you're cool. No, they moved him back, but O'Core for was the better of the tackles anyways for Pittsburgh, and you could flip him back over to left tackle. I'm going to take Wright, and I know it seems early.
Starting point is 00:44:50 It's a little early for me, but the tackles are going to go, and in my opinion, he's the guy that makes the most sense for the Steelers. Gives them size, gives them strength. He's battle-tested. Played really well against Brzee and Will Anderson. I'm going to go with Darnell Wright at 17.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Lions picked Will Anderson at 6. Now they're sitting here at 18. I was hoping to get Deontay Banks. I played myself. You played yourself. You played myself. Fortunately for them, there's another secondary player that's still on the board that Dan Campbell's absolutely going to love.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Hold on. Let me check the depth chart. Let me make sure that there's not some hidden gem that Dan Campbell's absolutely going to love. Hold on. Let me check the depth chart. Let me make sure that there's not some hidden gem that I'm forgetting about. No, it makes sense. Yeah, we're picking Brian Branch. Yeah, we're absolutely. We are slamming home the selection of Brian Branch. Detroit Lions coming away with Will Anderson and Brian Branch.
Starting point is 00:45:44 What a first round you'll have to see it we just we took we took the two best players from alabama's defense again dan campbell brad holmes if you need consulting hit us up in the youtube comments smack subscribe trigger those notifications what is it when uh super chat super chat us yeah yeah hit the super chat hit this super chat for five dollars who should i take it six oh man that'd be great that'd be so good the bucks at 19 this is where i have to phone a friend here buddy i mean come on no phone's dead uh Phone's dead. Don't pick up. I'm leaning Miles Murphy here.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I'll tell you who they'd pick at 19 if he's still here. Nolan Smith. I forgot about Nolan. If Nolan Smith is here, 100%. They'd take Nolan Smith. All right, we'll go with Nolan Smith. Freakish combine, sub 4, 440. He's healthy. He's smaller than your typical edge.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I always say it. I like what he does off the ball better than as a true rusher. Who did you want to pick? Sorry, I was blocking. Miles Murphy. Yeah. Bowles always loves these big ends. Yeah, but they took...
Starting point is 00:47:03 The Houston kid? Yeah, they took um the houston kid yeah they took logan hall last year i don't think that they take miles murphy just keep doing the same thing over and over again no yeah i don't i don't think they would do that i'm trying to we'll go with we'll go with nolan smith and just get true dynamite athleticism yeah and nolan smith i think i think he's locked into the top 20 i know we picked him at number 19 here and you know it's you kind of have habits that you form with mock traps when you do so many of them and of course you forget yeah yeah we're trying to like take the combine into account and all that stuff and and we're switching some things but you do i think look i think nolan smith's in play at 10 right like i i think that he's going to be in play for the eagles at the board doesn't
Starting point is 00:47:44 so rich for me the right way for him but ultimately i personally think he's a top 20 lock i don't think they're gonna i don't think the nfl is gonna let a football player this athletic and this passionate about the game of football get out of the top 20 that's just my thoughts so bucks getting nolan smith there at number 19 puts the seattle seahawks up at number 20 jalen carter pretty good ad all right so we got jalen carter at five man they could osiris Torrance I feel like back-to-back trenches not the worst thing in the world for Seattle trying to look at some other selections here
Starting point is 00:48:34 what about Darnell Washington oh at 20 you think he's going 20 did you watch the combine no what happened I think look did you watch the combine? No. What happened? I think, look,
Starting point is 00:48:51 I've long thought that Darnell Washington was a top 50. You've always said this. You said he was the best tight end at Georgia all along. Tight end. Look, I said it in summer scouting, a reek guilt. I mean, Darnell Washington.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Oh man. Oh, man. Tight end one. All right, so. I know I would do here if I was Seattle, but I am not. Would you pick Jackson Smith and Jigba? Every single time. This is the easiest draft pick in the world. You son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:49:22 DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Jackson Smith and Jigba in the slot. Kenneth Walker in the backfield. son of a dk metcalf tyler lockett jackson smith and jigba in the slot kenneth walker in the backfield gino back on a deal all right defensive line all right we're doing it what we think they will do now what we would do is they can super chat us if they want if they want that advice all right i'll go jsn okay you did the fun route. I don't think, well, I'm trying to. Well, Seattle, okay. Wait, hold on. Did you already click JSN for 20?
Starting point is 00:49:52 No. Okay, good. I knew you. It was the least confident thing ever. All right, I'll go JSN. Did Jackson Smith and Jigba play another sport growing up? That's what I want to know. That's what I want to know. That's what I want to know.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Because Pete Carroll is obsessed with that stuff. Yeah. How about Sauce, by the way? Did you hear that? No, what did he say? He said he was a total weirdo, basically. Pete Carroll. He said he's a close talker.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Oh, yeah. He did say the Seattle thing was weird. He said it was the most uncomfortable interview he had. That's kind of funny. It actually was really funny. Sauce is unbelievable. Oh man. I'm scrolling here.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I'm trying to find answers. I'm searching my soul. I'm seeing which player speaks to me. What about Dalton Kincaid? Oh, God, dude. Oh, you're not into it? If Dalton Kincaid goes in the top 20 before Darnell Washington and Michael Mayer.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Did Dalton Kincaid play other sports? I'm Googling this right now. Did he play other sports? Come on. I'm sure he did. Come on. He's a good athlete. Kincaid hails from the great state ofada and grew up focusing most of his attention on the
Starting point is 00:51:27 game of basketball i'm picking dalton kincaid at 20 and there's nothing you can do to tell me otherwise you're up at number 21 oh my god hey i'll give credit where it's due there you go pete yep that pickup basketball game in the offseason is going to look a lot better now, buddy. Don Kincaid at 20 to Seattle. The Chargers are on the clock at 21. They need wide receiver. They could use a little help on defense. I don't know if it's this cut and dried. I feel like they always need a vertical guy.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Of course. Right? Yeah. That makes it so annoying like i feel like i'm a total madman if i take jalen hyatt here but once again i'm not trying to do what i would do i'm trying to do what these teams think of what other teams would do i'm gonna take jalen hyatt hold on let's see chargers draft history hold on let's see let's do a little digging see if we got anything here zion johnson last year jt woods in the third isaiah spiller in the fourth yikes ray sean slater asante samuel jr josh palmer okay it's good well what if palmer was better we wouldn't be in
Starting point is 00:52:48 this issue we're currently sitting in okay yes okay fair that's fair man they don't they don't pick wide receivers early they know and that's how they got here by the way they picked mike williams in the first round in 2017. Yeah, that's early. Man, Josh Palmer had a sneaky 769 yards last year. If Chargers fans come from my head and say, hey, he's actually really good now, I will apologize. I did not expect that. I saw him make some plays, but almost 800 yards?
Starting point is 00:53:24 I thought he was fine. Fine? I feel like the thing with the charters all the time was like man if they only had another third that third wide receiver to stretch the field well they need they need like a field stretcher i don't know if palmer's that he'd be productive but i don't know if he's that man they'd love it they'd love it they'd love a guy in the interior i just don't i don't know if anybody's there. Even if you want to be spicy with Adetemiwa Adebuare. I'm taking Hyatt, just so you know. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:53:50 He already clicked it, folks. He can't go back. I did now. I'm taking Hyatt. I know he was expected to run even better than he did, and I know he was 176. The tape is the tape. The guy can fly on the field.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I think he's got tracking this is and i once again i like plenty i like quite a few receivers more than him but this is how the draft goes ravens at 22 man this is a team where everything could just be in a totally different place in two months right oh yeah i mean 100 you were right about that but right now i think we operate like lamar jackson is the quarterback and will be the quarterback i might tell you the opposite okay okay that's that's a fun way of looking at it i i don't think lamar is going to be back with the ravens i mean they don't even appear close and like even if they franchise tag him i don't i don't know if he's going to say i'm not playing but it's not like they take a quarterback i don't think you're going to take a quarterback
Starting point is 00:54:52 because there's not one to be had it feels like he's getting the non-exclusive tag and somebody's going to be able to give him an offer so they've got odafe away they have david ojabo that they drafted last year and it's right jobbo right right right right big bonus they have travis jones even though the the the guys up front are getting a little bit older they do have travis jones probably gonna lose marcus peters probably gonna lose kyle fuller marlon humphries on one side definitely in the Oh, what about Cam Smith? I normally have not put Cam Smith in the first round. We talked about how good of a combine he had. But he did have a good combine.
Starting point is 00:55:36 And like, so like Clark Phillips is normally who I'd feel comfortable putting here, but Clark just did not have a good combine. He's not going in the first round. Love this podium. Don't get me wrong. But he didn't test well. Came in smaller than we thought. Super small arms. He's only an outside corner on his tape. round love this podium don't get me wrong but he didn't test well he's not going to first round super small arms he's only an outside corner on his tape i'm basically thinking jackson smith and jigba or
Starting point is 00:55:56 cam smith cam smith okay if i if i can guide your uh your hand a little bit with things I heard with Baltimore. Okay. Cam Smith it is. Cam Smith at 22. Yep. They will look for a fast, long corner in that spot. So Cam Smith comes off the board. Good for Cam, man.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Ran well. Good for Cam Smith. Yep. 23, the Vikings, because the slide has to stop. I will be taking Miles Murphy here. Ooh, okay. The Vikings could have questions on the edge and Murphy can really kick along any D line alignment on the defensive line. So Miles Murphy is just such a,
Starting point is 00:56:37 he's a freak in terms of his athleticism and size and movement and the Vikings need help in that front seven. So they take BPA on defense. I'm looking up something through the Jags because I've already moved on. No, please. We will... I'm looking at Ringo. And I don't think Ringo is a...
Starting point is 00:57:05 Man. I don't know how in I'd be on Ringo as a first-rounder. I'm not, but it's close. I'm not either. I'm not either. Where else would the Jags go? Let's operate like Evan Ingram goes back and then they avoid the tight end market
Starting point is 00:57:25 well they franchise tagging they did franchise him yeah so he is back so he's gonna have a say in the matter right so there's not a there's not anything to like tempt them there he signed brandon sheriff i guess they get upgrade along the offensive line depending on what happens with juwan taylor they might have a tackle need. They'd like to get better. This is kind of a sneaky DJ Turner like conversation starter. You think DJ's going first round? No, but I think we're going to get to the point
Starting point is 00:57:54 where he's going a lot earlier than people think. Maybe, but... I think he's going top 50. I just can't get there. This board's not the prettiest thing right now. Because they're going to release shak riffin like straight up that was the report that we got so you don't like to pigeonhole yourself for needs no you don't i mean hell why don't you just take Kalasha Kansey? If that's the case. I don't think they'd take Kansey.
Starting point is 00:58:30 He's not going to be for everyone. I'll go Ringo. I'm going to take Keely Ringo. Okay. I'll take Keely Ringo here at 24. I don't think that's egregious. This board did not break well for the Jags. Well, this one gets harder.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I thought about Jordan Addison. I thought about Jackson and Jigba. They're good at wide receiver now. Well, Marvin Jones is a free agent. Yeah, but they have Zay Jones and Christian Kirk. And Calvin Ridley. Oh, Calvin Ridley. Every time. Trevor, you idiot!
Starting point is 00:58:59 I do it every time. You moron! This is the first time I remembered and you didn't. You do it for a living! Alright, yeah, they're good. I'm glad. Then I'm confident. Keeley Ringo is your CB, too. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You got Tyson Campbell on one side, Keeley Ringo on the other. I'm good. I'm chilling. Giants, amazing situation. Sprint that Jackson Smith and Jake McCard in. Get yourself some wide receiver talent. Gut feeling he doesn't make it here,
Starting point is 00:59:23 but also there's a chance there's absolutely a chance and i think they would consider jordan addison in this spot as much as he did not have the week he had hoped to but we'll go jackson smith and jig with the giants who desperately need a wide receiver did hear that uh doing a lot of background to get wink some corner help but this did not break that way at all. So you look day two for that. Dallas on the board here, 26. Apparently they're, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:59:54 doing whatever they can to bring Tony Pollard back. I don't know what that means for Ezekiel Elliott. We talked about B. John Robinson being a spot here before. Maybe it happens. But, but, john robinson being a spot here before maybe it happens but but i think i like zay flowers here i do too a lot yeah i really do i think i think jerry's gonna be in on zay i think jerry's gonna be very on zay flowers so i'm gonna go i'll go flowers here at 26 i don't think i don't think running back until free agency sorts itself out.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I don't think running back was tempted a little bit by Kalijah. Can't see dad did the D line, get some juice in there, but ultimately I think they really want a wide receiver. I do. And so we'll have Zay going here. All right. So I know everybody's listening at this point in the pod and they probably think I'm taking B John John Robinson to the Bills every single time.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And I get the thought. I do. And I wouldn't argue against you. But I am actually going to take DeJuan Jones here at this spot. I think they want to upgrade at that right tackle spot. I think they are in on offensive line. Okay. Listen,
Starting point is 01:01:09 maybe he'll get a chance to compete. In all honesty, I do not like what I've seen from Spencer Brown protecting the right side for Josh Allen so far. So I'm going to go with DeJuan Jones and just get a total mammoth of a human, by the way, 6'8", 374, 87 and 7'8 wingspan. I mean, just out of this world.
Starting point is 01:01:31 He moves well at that size, too. It's pretty shocking. So the Bills take a offensive tackle here. And I probably would have made that pick for the Bengals next, by the way. 28 Bengals are up. They have... I feel like my top two guys-ish for the Bengals, realistically, are both still on the board here. Is Anton Harrison one of them?
Starting point is 01:01:55 Anton Harrison is one of them. Let me try to get the other one. Okay. All right. Okay. I can give you hints. I can give you hints if you want. That kind of crapped out on me quick. This is pretty tougher than I thought. I knew you like Harrison there.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Yep. They're apparently going to lose Jesse Bates in free agency, according to reports. I heard that it was not close with them. Not close. But not recently. I heard this a while ago. Okay. It was just not close at all between them. When you lived in Cincinnati. Not close. But not recently. I heard this a while ago. Okay. It was just not close at all between them. When you lived in Cincinnati.
Starting point is 01:02:28 People forget. When I literally could have thrown a baseball at the stadium. That's how close I lived to the stadium. Are you thinking out of Bore? No. Okay. Go ahead. But we will get out of Bore off the board soon here, I think. My hint. Do you want a hint?
Starting point is 01:02:44 Do you want to keep guessing or do you want me to just say it? No, you can say it. Okay. Darnell Washington. Duh. How did I, like, how did I not? I think I'm going Darnell here.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I love it. I think I'm going Darnell. I can't get enough of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This will be my favorite team in the AFC besides the Jets if they make this pick.
Starting point is 01:03:03 And it's not even, it's not even close. Complete alien, folks. Complete alien. Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, Joe Burrow, Darnell Washington. Trent Irwin. Trent Irwin. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:03:19 6'7", 264 pounds. Remember when betting opened up in the state of Ohio and one of your first bets was like an Irwin catch for like six yards? Why would you bring that up? And it was the one game he didn't make a catch. No, I know. It was the one game he didn't make a catch. Good intro to betting.
Starting point is 01:03:41 It's fun. It's really fun. Darnell Washington Bengals, I think, is one of the best picks in this mock draft. Betting is fun. Okay, you're up with the New Orleans Saints. You mentioned a player who I feel like would be very good for the Saints. Adebuare? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:57 He would be. I'm pretty torn right now between Adebuare, a little bit of Canty, because that would be a little off the board for them, something they don't have, in my opinion. Oh, man. I think they'd pick Adebuare before they'd pick Canty. So Davenport is a free agent. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Karl Granderson's good. Cam Jordan is just a total wonder at this age but you know it's not going to be forever they have uh passing y'all passing y'all passing yo passing yo passing yo god payton turner isn't that bizarre to think about It's not good to say that by the way about, well, yeah, I don't think that, I don't think that,
Starting point is 01:04:50 I mean like they need edge, but if, if they're picking anything along D line, I think they're picking interior defensive line, which is why I think that Adam War is in their wheelhouse. He's like a big edge. They also need wide receiver, but they do. They also need wide receiver, but they do.
Starting point is 01:05:07 They also need Derek Carr. I wonder if they move on from Michael Thomas. Yes. And Jarvis Landry. Like that relationship has been right. So then. Oh, man. This is hell.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Nice. Yeah. Played myself. Sweet. This is brutal. Totally brutal. I really want to take can't see i want to take out of bar a i feel like there's a butt coming up the wide receiver points good but i just how much did addison really hurt himself this week you think he's just small man he's small and not overly fast he's just really small yeah i thought he was gonna be way faster now what was his 40 what did it end up being like a
Starting point is 01:05:50 wasn't a four or five um hold on i can tell you in a second the unofficial i thought was four five four oh boy we're scrolling here four four nine he's fine. He's fine. That's that's fine. He's fine. Would've liked to see it faster, but whatever. Yeah. How did Tyler Scott run a four, four,
Starting point is 01:06:12 four? How about me beating you out with the Hyatt? Yeah. And they both ran in the four. We've been duped. They both ran in the four, four. Jalen Hyatt ran a four,
Starting point is 01:06:23 four, four. And I was like, good night connor i win and then tyler scott's like yeah trev watch me walk backwards and do this thing watch me stick the middle finger straight up in the air for all 40 yards trev all right i'll get it back on track i'm going with cancey okay they're uh it's it's times a flat circle they draft sheldon rankins's again. No, I'm just kidding, but kind of not.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Rankin's a good player. He is a good player. He was just on the chance the last two years instead. Well, add it to me. Well, at a bar, he doesn't have to wait very long.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Hmm. Yeah. We know they like athletic D line on in Philadelphia Eagles at number 30. I got them with Devon Witherspoon at number 10 and we're picking an absolute freak show of athleticism with out of war. Right. Well, that one makes a lot of sense. For him to get to 30, I mean, like he is a Philadelphia Eagle all the way,
Starting point is 01:07:10 I think, if he makes it 30. Do you realize we're running into a bit of an issue? Why? Because B. John Robinson's not off the board? Yeah. Well. I'm not doing it here. I was going to say, well. I am taking. One of the champs need just one of the best playmakers out of the backfield we've seen over the last half decade i know but they they don't need that they don't connor
Starting point is 01:07:37 look at me i have to do this they don't need anything they don't need anything. They don't need anything. They don't need anything. Now, offensive tackle maybe. I thought Wiley played better as the year went on. There's that and the whole Orlando Brown trade rumors, but I'm not really buying into that. I think what makes sense here, honestly, is if they don't re-sign Juju, Jordan Addison makes sense here. Yeah, because then you play him in the slot and you can play him in the slot i'm gonna say that juju
Starting point is 01:08:08 or me cole hardman or both get paid somewhere else and they take jordan addison okay all right and now we are in round two and bijan robinson is on the board and maybe people are angry where would we have took him i i don't know people would tell you the eagles at 30 that's what they would tell you okay maybe but the eagles the eagles don't spend their premium picks on running backs they also really like kenny gainwell by the way yeah the eagles the eagles built the incredible roster that they did by not doing that now some players are outliers and so beach on robinson unbelievable football. He could be in the conversation there, but I agree with you. B. John is going to go somewhere in the first round of this draft. But as I am, as we are going through a mock draft,
Starting point is 01:08:53 there's just so many other premium positions that we would pick over him. Like these are places where I could see B. John Robinson going. A to the Falcons. But they have algier 14 to the patriots but probably not they have too many other big needs if the lions really don't believe in swift which i'm skeptical on maybe right no way at 18 but i but i don't think they take him at 18 yeah i don't think so either ravens at 22 but how much do they would you have to not believe in jk dobbins for that it's not on the table for the bucks at 19 it shouldn't be they need to i agree it shouldn't be i think they need too many other things i think the team just needs too many other things so it's like look 25 if
Starting point is 01:09:42 saquon goes elsewhere there's there's a chance they pick Bijon over a wide receiver that's going to be left at 25, right? Yeah, that's an odd... Right? I know they didn't take Saquon, but that is like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because if you have to franchise tag Daniel Jones, let's say a deal doesn't get done,
Starting point is 01:10:04 and you've got to franchise tag Daniel Jones, because you say a deal doesn't get done and you got to franchise tag Daniel Jones because you don't want him hitting free agency. You're going to risk it with Saquon because if you guys have not figured out a deal yet, then he's going to test the open waters. So if he tests the open waters and somebody's giving him more money, he's a running back,
Starting point is 01:10:20 he needs the guaranteed money, he's going to go take it elsewhere. At that point, they could potentially take B. John Robinson. Cow cowboys we talked about being a potential option for them although i feel like that's less likely than i did a couple of weeks ago bills may be at 27 but i agree they have needs in the trenches and needs a slot receiver they just took james cook in round two last year right right that would That would trump that. Eagles may be at 30, but again,
Starting point is 01:10:50 I don't think that that's how they've built their team. And then are the Chiefs going to take another running back in the first round after getting burnt by Clyde Edwards-Hilaire? No, probably not. So do they need to. So here we are with Bijan Stowe on the board at the beginning of round two. 32. 32. Pittsburgh Steelers on the board thanks to the Chase Claypool trade.
Starting point is 01:11:10 We have them taking Darnell Wright at number 17. Who's left at corner? Will Tyreek Stephenson action? Could. You seem to think that DJ Turner is going is gonna be a top 50 pick i like him better than stevenson i like garrett williams but i don't think i don't know if he's not necessarily though right i don't think he's going to sign emmanuel ford was too skinny the is gonna be of The Gumby of the draft. Sorry. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Oh, Brian Brzee is also still here. Yeah, which isn't all that shocking, right? No, no, no, no, it's not. But it's intriguing, I think. Mozzie Smith's still here, too. I think I'm going either Mozzie Smith or Brian Brzee. I'm going to go Brzee. I would too.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I don't even think that one's too close. I know people really like Mozzie Smith. I think our show was lower on him than the general consensus. Yeah, I mean, the tape's super hot and cold, right? Super hot and cold. We're trying to do a predictive mock, obviously. Yep. I think the nfl is higher on mozzie smith than than this show was yes yeah i agree so the bears are back on the
Starting point is 01:12:31 clock because of the trade at the start of the show you're welcome bears fans yes you are welcome because you have paris johnson at nine you are now picking at 33 and you got Bijan Robinson, which is really one hell of a scenario for you. I mean, right? I didn't think of that. Like, good Lord. They're letting Montgomery walk, right? Yeah, and I know... Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Khalil Herbert. Khalil, thank you. Jeez, brain fry. No, I got you. He looks really good this year, Khalil Herbert. Really good. It's like hey give him the ball a little more i know he got banged up but um if the giants let saquon or
Starting point is 01:13:12 saquon gets to the market i actually think the bears should be the number one suitor for him ironically good point but in this scenario we don't know that so i will take bijan robinson to chicago and that is just awesome for justin fields running behind paris johnson pretty sweet start for the bears all right so you took tyree willison for the is there any cardinals at 33 got the cardinals back up here at 34 um there is uh og og1 on the board still osiris torrence is still here and i feel like i feel like that's got to be the pick i feel like for too long the cardinals have not done what they have needed to do in the trenches. And they remedy that here with back-to-back trench picks. So I'm going to go Osiris Torrance here at 34.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yeah, they'll need a guarded center. It came out today that Rodney Hudson is expected to retire. Yep. So you're on the thinking of, hey, it could have been John Michael Schmitz, Joe Tippman, Steve Avila, Osiris Torrance's BPA on the spot. There will. OK, hold on here. Holy cow.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I guess I didn't realize it was this bad. Rodney Hudson retired. Justin Pugh. Rashad Coward, Billy Price, Max Garcia, Will Hernandez, Kelvin Beachum, and Cody Ford. All of them are free agents. Which honestly... That is the entire... Offensive line.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Starting offensive line outside of DJ Humphries and Josh Jones. And, and, and, that is the entire second string of their offensive line, either in free agency or retired. Maybe they do trade out of three. That's what I'm saying, man. I think it's on the table. I really do think it's on the table. All right, you're up.
Starting point is 01:14:56 So Cyrus Torrance, the Colts are on the clock at 35. They got Anthony Richardson, not Will Lefis at four. I need to double check that and make sure I am going to go, man, they need old line help really across the board. It's just a matter of how you chop it up. Yeah. You chop it up in this spot,
Starting point is 01:15:17 right? I mean, Raymond's going to get a shot next year. They have Quentin Nelson. Ooh, this one's tricky. This one's really tricky. I'm thinking Anton Harrison's an option in this spot.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Steve Avila at right guard. Ooh, Steve Avila. I think that's where I'm going to go. I'm going to have Steve Avila play guard. He's played center and guard for TCU, so you like the flexibility here i'm gonna go with steve avila okay all right steve avila to the indianapolis colts let me find him real quick steve avila going two spots after bijan robinson is the kind of things that like
Starting point is 01:15:57 you need to go through scenarios to do mocks over and over again well i think i'm gonna go anton harrison here for the rams then tackles a need yeah it's just a major need for him i'm trying to see if there's like really anybody else that i would be thinking of i mean i like felix onudike azuma i like keon white like these guys now that we're kind of into the second round but yeah i don't think keon white makes it this far but we just haven't had the right home for him yet yeah we might need a couple picks actually i'm going anton harrison though at 36 for the for the los angeles rams just getting something along the o-line something need something here anton harrison goes the seahawks are back on the clock
Starting point is 01:16:45 they have gotten jaylen carter and and say with your chest don't be changed not my choosing say with your chest michael mayer's still on the board i'm sickened right now good sickened good disgusted good oh man they they need a third wide receiver pretty badly they do Disgusted. Good. Oh, man. They need a third wide receiver pretty badly. They do. I am actually going... I kind of like how this fell. Okay. I am taking Josh Downs here for the Seahawks.
Starting point is 01:17:19 I think he'd be really, really good there. Anybody else at the receiver position give you any debate at all? No. Oh, I thought you were making a tank Dell joke. No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't. No, nobody. Nobody did for what they need.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I love Cedric Tillman. I like Tyler Scott. But I just I think that if you have DK and lock it on the outside, Josh Downs will eat on the inside. Okay, Carolina's back up on the clock because they did not have to give up their second. The Raiders are on the clock.
Starting point is 01:17:54 The Raiders are on the clock because I can't read today. You have them taking Will Levis at number seven. And I have them here at number 38. Definitely the defense. I think this is probably going to be will mcdonald right for the raiders yeah no there's a chandler jones there forever is he there forever i didn't contract it's pretty wild is it brutal no okay he's there for the next probably at least this year maybe the second year there's a lot of dead money on this thing the next two years and there's two void years just for a little bonus i think they just need chandler jones just in case just in case um they need they need a corner i know they need secondary bad i can see them looking at forbes
Starting point is 01:18:49 honestly i know i know you're i agree too he's light oh i'm not picking on him all due respect the emmanuel forbes sorry i don't mean i don't mean for that to just do they need interior 66 connor he's 166 know. He showed up at the combine at 166. I'm taking Tyreek Stevenson. Tyreek Stevenson it is. Raiders get corner help in the mold of Tyreek Stevenson. Tyreek Stevenson looked really good
Starting point is 01:19:18 at the Senior Bowl. I'm giving him his flowers here. So Panthers are back on the clock. They made the big move to get CJ Stroud. which you love you really love to see that huge move this one's a little tricky here i'm actually gonna take keon white in this spot okay i thought about jameer gibbs full transparency i thought about michael michael you know what they like oh they like um they like deontay foreman a lot
Starting point is 01:19:55 that was a free agent no okay is he yeah that's what our lads tells me who is he and i mean i'm sure they can get back so so they so they like him a lot like that was my main takeaway from scott fitter's presser because he really did not give us much else but when somebody asked him about foreman he's like yeah we love him basically okay so they'll find a way for that so i think that he's i think he's back on the team so keon white they get more depth at edge and they get and he's a totally different player than Burns. Keon White, he'll be really good against the run today, and you're going to develop those pass rush tools with his size and speed.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I was going to say, what about tomorrow? He might be good tomorrow. Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, in that case, then I'm in. Totally in. Saints at 40. You got them taking can see at 29 he could definitely use a wide receiver is there anybody in here worth picking
Starting point is 01:20:50 michael wilson my god i would take centric tillman here i know nobody else probably yeah i bet you would i would yeah i bet corner Yeah, I bet. Corner. Kind of fell off a cliff quick, huh? Besides my guy, DJ Turner. I mean, there's guys, right? Clark Phillips is here. DJ Turner is here.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Julius Brant is here. Darius Rush is here. Darius Rush. Williams is here. Darius Rush going 40, though? Probably not. I don't think he's going 40. It's been a really good process for him, though. I want to say that. He's definitely on the up. There's no
Starting point is 01:21:30 doubt about that. There's no doubt about that. What's a tight end room like in New Orleans? Other than Taysom Hill. Don't talk. Don't say that to me. I didn't. Jawan Johnson. Who was unreal. Adam Troutman. Yeah, was unreal. Adam Troutman.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Yeah, they did just draft Troutman. But he's been hurt, I feel like, right? They don't have a Michael Mayer, okay? Like, they don't have that dude. I like Paulson. They drafted Elante Taylor. They've got Bradley Roby. They still have Demario Davis.
Starting point is 01:22:03 They've got Pete Warner. And it's basically just wide receiver. How do we get this team a good wide receiver? I mean, you're going to want to take Tank Dell, of course. I'll take him, Michael Wilson. I'm doing it. I don't care. I don't care what you think.
Starting point is 01:22:19 You're insane. I don't care what you think. All right. I just type his name into the search bar by the way to find him at this point i thought you're i thought you were going to say the surgeon's bar because he's been hurt a bunch that would have been i was going to tell you that was going to be distasteful michael wilson at 40 to the saints mostly surprising thing that pod listeners have heard so far is me overdrafting mich Wilson. Nobody here. Nobody here is surprised.
Starting point is 01:22:46 41, the Titans. They got offensive line help in Skowronski. Pete. Pete. They could use some pass rush. Could use some pass rush. They could use another wide receiver. I don't like the board here at all.
Starting point is 01:23:02 No. I'm going to go BJ Ojolari. Wow. wide receiver i don't like the board here at all no i'm gonna go bj ojalary wow our guys going back to back yeah we really did the we did the thing right there like we're like we don't really care about these two picks of what the nfl thinks it's time for our opinions to matter brown's other 42 and tank Dell is still on the board. Oh man. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Oh man. I'm picking Keanu Benton. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. It would have been a really good bit to just keep it going. Oh, it would have been really good. That's what... That's around the clock.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I can't get the pod back on the rails. I think we're done my face turns so red when i laugh i know that everybody who watches on youtube can see it i just like i just get crying eyes instantly okay anyways yeah uh your jets 43 it's just like wild to me that michael mayer is still here it's starting to drive me insane. And I'm not doing it, by the way, because I. The Jets are paying two tight ends and they drafted Jeremy Rucker last year. They need they need better play at safety. I really like Antonio Johnson in this spot.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Oh, nice. I think that's I like this a lot. Yeah, I think that's the move for them. They're small in the middle of the field. Jordan Whitehead and LaMarcus Joyner, I have not looked this up. I would guess they are the smallest safety duo in the NFL. So you go the other way and get Antonio Johnson. Jordan Whitehead's like 2% body fat, though.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Oh, yeah. My guy's absolutely shredded. And a solid player. But they just need to get bigger at the safety position. And Johnson's a really nice fit for them. All right. So Antonio Johnson of the Jets, 43, puts the Atlanta Falcons up on the clock at 44.
Starting point is 01:25:17 We had them taking Christian Gonzalez, number eight. I do think that this has to be pass rusher for them. Now, Will McDonald is on the board, and I think that Will McDonald's probably the best pass rusher left. But they did just draft Arnold Ibikedi. And, I mean, is D'Angelo Malone, is he a pass rusher for them? Yeah. They have him listed outside linebacker on the depth chart.
Starting point is 01:25:39 He's a rush backer, yeah. But now that Lorenzo Carter is a free agent, maybe that opens the door for him in that spot. Right. But even if he's going to play off-ball linebacker for them, he's still going to rush a lot. So they have a lighter rusher in D'Angelo Malone. They have a lighter rusher in Arnold Libicati.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Are they going to take another lighter rusher in Will McDonald? Probably not. And so I'm going to pivot to Felix Onodike Uzama. Okay. Get a bigger end, bigger end guy. I could play five tech for you. Guy could play with his hand.
Starting point is 01:26:09 They're always the defensive end presence that you want. Loved his podium session. One of my favorite podium sessions that we had during the week. It was awesome. We got to listen to that one together. Different. And he feels like somebody who is going to know how to, how to produce in his rookie season and then hopefully get even better year two, year so i'll go kansas state's felix on dk uzama uh 44 for
Starting point is 01:26:29 the falcons so the packers are on the clock the guy i consider taking for them at 15 is still here they took van ness at 15 i was torn between van ness and mayor so i will take michael mayor in this spot i feel like he falls somewhere in between, right? Like he's not the guy, and I like Mayer a lot. I agree. I don't think he's the guy that's this consensus, break the wheel. I'm going to be a top 15 pick as a tight end. I also don't think he's going to fall this far into the second round.
Starting point is 01:26:58 It's somewhere in the middle. But like we said, all scenarios on the table. This is an amazing draft for Green Bay, an amazing fit for Green Bay. He's good at everything, every aspect of the tight end position. He's not the fastest guy, and it feels like you have to just fly to get drafted early as a tight end. But this is a steal at this point in the draft for a really good player. Really good scenario here for the New England Patriots
Starting point is 01:27:21 who took Joey Porter Jrr in the first round really wasn't an offensive tackle that you felt comfortable with taking them that high matthew bergeron from syracuse is still here at 46 and i think that's a really solid one two combo for them because bergeron is somebody who also gives you some inside out versatility i think he has the capabilities to play uh one of those interior offensive line spots if you wanted to but i also think that you know we got him listed at tackle for a reason because we believe that he can play over at tackle so really hitting corner well with joey porter jr and then still being able to get bergeron at 46 is is really good for him okay so washington's on the clock and i'm going john michael schmitz here nice i think he he's confident he could play guard and center washington needs help
Starting point is 01:28:05 on the all along the interior their offensive lineman this is really a great landing spot um to improve that unit as a whole i think this schmitz range is probably somewhere early in the second round the middle of second round centers you just don't know linderbaum ended up going to the first creed humphrey was very highly touted end up going at the end of the second he just you don't know what centers it's a weird position so schmitz comes off the board at 47 to washington and i bet they love that pick detroit you've made every detroit pick you're single-handedly rebuilding the lions and answering brad holmes's super chats well i
Starting point is 01:28:45 got you i i got them five dollars from b homes what should the lions do in the second round i'm looking at the linebackers but you guys might have a different take thanks so much hashtag sex addict oh my god incredible will anderson at six brian branch at 18 i want to pick jameer gibbs yeah how you should what's the situation with swift and and williams williams a free agent williams has got to be a free agent by now Williams? Williams is a free agent. Williams has got to be a free agent by now. Williams is a free agent. I think they're good.
Starting point is 01:29:31 I mean, they're going to bring Jamal Williams back. And with that, since it's not, I can't imagine them drafting Jameer Gibbs, even with it being. Yeah, that's a lot.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Switched last year. I just, I don't think they would do that. What's their tight end room like now? They don't give a shit. They traded Hawkinson and they're like, yeah, we got 8 million wide receivers like a ball.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Okay. Fair. It's true. The, um, no, there's value right now. It though you're right what about linebacker yeah oh dude dude dude yeah you figured it out this is the most this is the most dan campbell player in the draft it's his son they're long lost brothers Jack Campbell 48 I love it I was gonna take him at 49 for the Steelers I'm still gonna go linebacker for the Steelers here and
Starting point is 01:30:36 I'm gonna take Trenton Simpson okay just get a ton of speed he can rush a little bit he can cover this gives the Steelers a hell of a player and a guy that I think will play more outside backer, even though he played inside a lot for Clemson this year. God. Bucks still have Will McDonald on the board. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:59 The best players on the board are pass rushers. Good job, Trev. You really did this well for the Bucks. I ended up taking Nolan Smith in the first round. You did. I phoned a friend, and you answered. Yeah, I mean, that was the right pick. Never answer.
Starting point is 01:31:10 That was the right pick. That was the right pick. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you, people. What do you want from me? What about Whipler? Is Whipler going before Tippman, you think? Dealer's choice.
Starting point is 01:31:23 I'm a little higher on Whipler. I feel like other people like titman good question that's a that's a i would love to get a little confirmation on that i like both these guys is there either one that you think has more guard versatility i haven't looked up the snap count of these guys titman's huge for a center i haven't seen many centers like that. Okay, so Whipler's only played center. He's smaller.
Starting point is 01:31:49 He's played 800 snaps the last two years. Tippman started his career right guard, but he only played 11 snaps. So I assume that was just to get him on the field, and he's played center in the last two seasons. I think I might go tippin okay i think i'm gonna go tippin here let's let's do one last one last peruse of the board and just a lot of edge rushers the only one that's really tempting me is jameer gibbs i could see that i really can man. Man. Rashad White and Jameer Gibbs. Lean on the run while being a little handicapped at quarterback.
Starting point is 01:32:32 That'd be pretty sick, actually. Son of a gun! No, I'm going to go Joe Tippman. Okay. I'm going to go Tippman. i'm gonna go tipman they need they need trench help they need trench help until they can until they got all five spots figured out they they gotta they gotta draft guys that they think are talented so we'll go tip in here at 50 okay so the seahawks are on the clock and they're kind of in the same scenario
Starting point is 01:32:59 it just feels like it's been decided for them right right? I'll go with Whipler here for Seattle. Now, he is a smaller center, but I think they can live with that in this spot. And I think they can get a little bit more athletic in that run game. So Seattle, we get back-to-back centers here in the top three centers. If you count Avila, the top four centers are gone already in the top 51 picks. Dolphins are up at 52. They could have used either of the guys that just went off the board. Yeah, they absolutely could have. They absolutely
Starting point is 01:33:32 could have. I don't think there's anybody else that I'm entertaining here at 52. Cody Mock. Yes. Yes. I feel like that's a solid pick for them at 52 i think that i think you're on it the athleticism i'm not that i'm not as high on mock as everyone else seems to be but he's gonna go he's gonna go in the top 60 i think yeah i'll go and he's a he's a guard he's not a tackle for me but they could use that anyway oh yes yes absolutely yeah we, absolutely. Yeah, we'll go Cody Mock. We'll go offensive lineman Cody Mock here. Give the Dolphins a little versatility and some juice there. I know they need corner, but I just don't love any of the corners that are left.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Yeah. You know, I think if anybody, I'd pick Garrett Williams because I like Garrett Williams. Yeah. I think he's getting slept on a little bit here. But even then, I think you might be able to still get a good corner a little bit later in the third round. So yeah, Cody Mauck here. Chargers on the clock.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I know you don't like the corners. I still think this guy is going to go in the top 60. I'm going to have them take Emmanuel Forbes. I think, man, we don't know after the big money signing and the poor play, but more importantly, the injury, what the situation ultimately is going to be. I'm looking at their depth chart right now. JC Jackson obviously got hurt last year, but did not have a good start. They can use a nickel. Bryce Callahan is technically a
Starting point is 01:35:05 free agent man i actually might flip this to clark phillips but they're small with asante samuel this is tricky this is really tricky i'll go with the length i'll say forbes i think the chargers are looking at corners i'll go with forbes i know he's skinny you want to know he's not bad in coverage and he's got ball skills you want to know how many times or how many corners have weighed in smaller than 166 since 1999 oh god maybe one other guy smaller yeah right yeah one one you know how tall he was five foot nine yeah it had to be small all right manu forbes it's fine yeah it's fine it's fine i think he i still think he's gonna go it's fine it's fine it's fine you took michael wilson in the top 40 let me live barry johnson never even run well barry so what do you mean no no no no hold on whoa
Starting point is 01:36:03 what do you mean do not insult i'm gonna find this you're making me find it you're making me find it you you you you give me a second he ran a four or five eight michael wilson's ras score was a 934 all right the 538 only area that he tested poorly ah yes running who cares tested really well in the 10 yard split love how it gets off the line scrimmage the weight was great the bench was great the height was good the old bench sneaking into the rs vertical the vertical was in the green, 37.5. The broad was in the green, over 10 feet. The shuttle was good, 427. Fair enough. You took them 40th.
Starting point is 01:36:52 I get to take Emmanuel Forbes at 53. It's fine. Texas took Parrish Johnson Jr. at number nine. And then you had them taking Bijan Robinson at 33. I'm up with them again. The Bears, the Bears, yes. What did I say? I think you said the Texans,
Starting point is 01:37:05 which I really lost track of where the draft had gone when you said that. Okay. The Bears. Folks, this is a long record. Let us just put up with us if you can. Just 10 more minutes, I promise. Yeah, we're almost done. Chicago Bears at number 54.
Starting point is 01:37:21 I'm on the board. His name is Nathaniel. There's actually a player, Trevor, there's a player I adore in this spot for the Bears. You adore? Yeah, like I think considering they have, they have not solved anything on defense in this draft right now,
Starting point is 01:37:44 and they waited this long. There's a good player that can really help them. Is it Will McDonald? No, but that's good thinking as well. This guy's a little bit more complete as a player. Complete? Yes, and he will enter... Who is it? You tell me.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Tully. Tully Tuipolo. Oh, yeah. Tui Polo. Tully's good. He is really good. He is really good. And he's heavier because they've got Travis Gibson. They have Dominique Robinson. Exactly. All right. We'll go with Tully.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Nice. We'll make it happen. I think he's definitely getting in the second round, so I like this here. When will the Will McDonald slide end? When will we learn? Well, not here. when will we learn the lion's got will anderson and brian branch and and jack campbell my god goat draft go to my favorite defensive draft of all time go to draft jesus and now we're gonna wrap it all up with Tanner McKee development behind Jared Goff no we're not that would be funny though that would be funny um no actually so despite all those great ads they still need some beef in the middle of the defense, I think.
Starting point is 01:39:05 They do need beef. I'm between Ika and Mozzie Smith here. I can't do Ika anymore, man. Yeah. He tested so poorly at 20, 25 less pounds than we thought he was going to be. What happened to him this year? He didn't even put his tape was a step down. Don't know. I would not consider him.
Starting point is 01:39:26 If you're considering him or Mozzie. Yeah, it's Mozzie. He's the athlete. It's going to go. The athlete is going to go. Right. Mozzie Smith. The lion.
Starting point is 01:39:35 You are. Am I off for like the Lions not doing any offense now? I don't think so. That was their problem. O-line solid. We tried to pick running back for them but we really can't you're gonna bring back jamal williams and then you're not gonna draft another running back that highly because the league loves musgrave but i just don't really
Starting point is 01:39:53 think that the lines care that much about tight end yeah the only the only area that i think i would have done is musgrave all right so mozzie smith uh who am i who's oh jacks uh oh we had keely ringo okay so we had ringo oh would they go muskrie i know they i know they franchise tagged um ingram have evan ingram but like at least the value makes sense here right yeah they just drafted a bunch of linebackers i i'm gonna go musgrave yeah i think it makes sense i'm gonna go musgrave here because then they can have back-to-back or they could have two tight ends that they absolutely love. And you're not always drafting in a one-year window. Yeah, Dan Arnold,
Starting point is 01:40:52 Chris Mannhurst, those guys are both free agents, so they're going to do something at the tight end anyway. So let's go Musgrave. We'll make it happen to the Jags. Musgrave would have been a no-brainer to the Giants here. Hate that. We are operating that Saquon's back. Otherwise, Gibbs would be the pick. I am going to go between Laporta
Starting point is 01:41:12 and Tucker Craft. I really like Tucker Craft. Oh, do you? Yeah. I mean, nobody cares about him and I thought he had a, I think the league
Starting point is 01:41:21 likes Tucker Craft too. But, so they like Laporta too. I think I league likes Tucker craft too, but sort of, they like Laporta too. I think I'll lean craft giants get tight end help. It's something they really need. They walk out of this draft. They have Jackson Smith and Jigba and Tucker craft. That really helps their pass catching group.
Starting point is 01:41:39 All right. You making it in, you locking it in. Yeah. I locked it in Tucker craft at 57. Okay. We didn't pick B. John Robinson for the Dallas Cowboys
Starting point is 01:41:46 at the back end of the first round. We gave them Zay Flowers. They could still use defensive line. They're going to let Dalton Schultz walk, huh? Maybe. That's what it sounded like. I know they took Jake Ferguson last year, but... And they have...
Starting point is 01:42:02 Who I thought was Dalton Schultz, part two. So, I mean, they have what is i thought it was don't show it's right too so i mean they have invested a derrick hall yeah that's very fitting for them derrick hall is very fitting but would they take derrick hall over will mcdonald no i'm gonna go will mcdonald okay yeah this fall this can't stand no no we can't stand for this will mcdonald you are dallas cowboy number 58 the bills got to juan jones they did they could probably even continue to take a corner. They could use another standup. They could use a rusher.
Starting point is 01:42:53 I'm not taking Andre Carter here. No, Andre Carter. Again, we're out. We're out. We've been, we've been out for a while.
Starting point is 01:43:00 You know what, Trevor? There's part of me, actually, man, I'm torn on this one because Poyer's a free agent. What about Sidney Brown? A little early for me for Sidney. A little early. Come on.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Man. I'm picking him next if you leave him on the board. Okay. Just letting you know. I like Jordan Battle better. I don't know if that's a threat to to you or not but no not in the slightest wow not in the slightest now he's threatening me not in the slightest yeah i'm gonna go with jordan battle here oh get some reliability on the back end they care so much about the uh the brains of those safeties and
Starting point is 01:43:44 battles played at a really good level for albama that's a that's a tough spot to play battle is a good safety um pro ready yeah again i i think not that um you know not that sydney brown isn't to be fair he's battle tested too so bob bell is a free agent jesse bates free agent eli apple's a free agent they drafted dax hill they've got uh cam taylor brit Bob Bell is a free agent. Jesse Bates is a free agent. Eli Apple is a free agent. They drafted Dax Hill. They've got Cam Taylor Britt. Yeah, we're going Sidney Brown. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:15 We're still going Sidney Brown. We're making it happen. They got Darnell Washington in the first, right? They did. They did. Yeah, Darnell Washington and Sidney Brown here for the Cincinnati Bengals. There's no offensive lineman
Starting point is 01:44:24 or offensive tackle specifically that's still left there that I like, so sorry, Bengals fans. Panthers is easy. This is Jameer Gibbs. Even if they bring back Foreman, he's different than Foreman. Yeah, sniping him from the Eagles, having an unreal draft class. Yeah, Panthers still made out really well here. They have Jameer Gibbs, Keon White,
Starting point is 01:44:46 and of course the trade-up for CJ Stroud. That's awesome for them. Okay, so Eagles got Devon Witherspoon at 10, added to me what Adam Warre at 30. Now they're sitting here at 62. They might need to replace a guard yeah they uh isaac samelo is a free agent right and i those guys always kind of get paid elsewhere yeah who else i know take here
Starting point is 01:45:20 you already you already did pass rush for them otherwise you could take your boy foskey hey hear me out on this devon a chain what was his official his official's got to be in there right should be what's his official i mean whatever it is the guy's really fast four three four was the unofficial okay yeah i don't uh oh trev 432 he loved to see it that's gonna be a dub that is absolutely a dub he had the second quickest 10 yard guess who had the quickest 10 yard keaton mitchell yeah what was Mitchell. What was his 40? Keaton's.
Starting point is 01:46:10 4-3-7. Wow. So you were close. I was. I gave you a run. You did. I will throw my hands up. I feel like the like what I sleep on meme versus what you sleep on.
Starting point is 01:46:26 In the you of it, I sleep on meme versus what you sleep on. In the you of it, I sleep on Keaton Mitchell. Everybody else sleeps on a bed. I am doing a full turn and I am carrying that Keaton Mitchell flag. Did you pick A-Chain to the Eagles?
Starting point is 01:46:42 I didn't pick A-Chain yet. I'm debating between Devon A-Chain to the Eagles? I didn't. I didn't pick A-Chain yet. I'm debating between Devon A-Chain, Derek Hall, and Drew Sanders. Man, Drew Sanders fell in this, huh? Right. TJ Edwards, who is coming off a really good year, who I think they're going to bring back. Kaiser White, both those guys free agents.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Of course, they have N'Kobi Dean as well. But Drew Sanders has a lot of experience as an off-ball, also as an edge. Brandon Graham's getting up there in age. Josh Sweat had the injury. Robert Quinn's a free agent. They have us on Redick. I think I'm going to pick Drew Sanders. Yeah, I mean, I could see that one. I think i'm gonna go drew sanders here for the eagles 62 a lot of different guys to pick on the board but i i i
Starting point is 01:47:31 like that versatility he's somebody who really attacks the trenches not a bar is more of the interior defensive line guy and drew sanders can be um the the edge kind of player for them all right so drew sanders comes off the board not a good o-line pick for them to be for their to know so the chiefs in the first round i took jordan addison assuming they're going to lose some wide receivers to free agency this gets kind of tricky here right because you probably lean defensive side of the ball. Man, this might be the spot for this is the spot for me for Derek Hall. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Because, yeah, I like it a lot. We saw flashes from Karloff this last year. Frank Clark's not going to be there forever. He's just not. One would think. Championship teams rotate like I would love to get a D-tackle here. There's no one. You made a great point. thing championship teams rotate like i would love to get a d tackle here i don't there's not there's
Starting point is 01:48:25 no one you made a great point eco has completely nuked this process it's not like i'll throw my hands up i love the guy over the summer i still had him i still had him sneaking right into my top 50 because i still believed in 2021 didn't go to the Senior Bowl. Absolute bombing of the Combine. It's going to be hard to sell that one. I'm with you. So, I will... The other thought here was... But they took Duffy last year, so I'm not going to go
Starting point is 01:48:56 small corner again. Clark Phillips. So, I'll go Derek Hall. I think he's kind of too good to make it into the third round. I'm hella sad we didn't get Clark Phillips in here. But I also think we're right, by the way. I don't think he's going in the first two rounds now. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Doesn't mean he's not a good player. He really is. All right, there it is. Two rounds in the books. I'll recap round one, Connor, if you want to recap round two. I feel like that's probably just the easiest way to do it. We have the Houston Texans moving up to number one overall. have them taking bryce young panthers moving up to number two overall taking cj stroud tyree wilson going to the arizona cardinals at three anthony richardson
Starting point is 01:49:32 to the colts at four jalen carter to the cls the ox at five will anderson to the lions at six will levis to the raiders at seven christian gonzalez falcons at eight paris johnson jr chicago bears at number nine after two tradebacks from them. Hell of a haul. Devon Witherspoon at 10 to the Eagles, Peter Skowronski at No. 11 to the Titans, Quentin Johnston to the Texans at 12, Broderick Jones, 13 to the Jets, Joey Porter Jr., 14 to the Patriots,
Starting point is 01:49:58 Lucas Van Ness, 15 to the Packers, Washington Commanders, Deontay Banks at No. 16, Steelers, Darnell Wright at 17, Brian Branch to the Lions at 18, Nolan Smith to the Bucs at 19. Dalton Kincaid, Seahawks at 20. Forfeited pick from the Miami Dolphins, which means technically at number 21. Chargers took
Starting point is 01:50:16 Jalen Hyatt. Cam Smith, the corner for South Carolina to the Baltimore Ravens at 22. Miles Murphy to the Vikings at 23. Keely Ringo to the Jags at 24. Jackson Smith and Jigba at 25 to the Giants. Zay Flowers, 26 to the Cowboys. DeJuan Jones to the Bills at 27. Darnell Washington, 28 to the Bengals.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Elijah Cansey going 29 to the Saints. Adetemiwa Adebwari to the Eagles at 30. And then to round out the first round, Jordan Addison went to the Canseed Chiefs at number 31. All right, round two kicks off with the Steelers because of the Chase Claypool trade. They took Brian Brzee, the D-line from Clemson. The Bears with all the trades we had, them making this mock pick at 33.
Starting point is 01:50:54 They get Bijan Robinson, the surprise fall of day one. They get him at the top of round two. Pick 34 is the Cardinals. They continue to repair this offensive line. That could be an entirely different unit besides DJ Humphries. They get Osiris Torrance to play guard. The Colts look to improve on the interior with Steve Avila from TCU to play guard and center.
Starting point is 01:51:12 The Rams take Anton Harrison at tackle. The Seahawks at 37 take Josh Downs to play in the slot. At pick 38, the Raiders get corner help with Tyreek Stevenson. At pick 39, the Panthers get a versatile edge defender in Keon White. At pick 40, the Saints, thanks to Trevor, take Michael Wilson. At pick 41, thanks to me, the Titans take BJ Ojolari for their edge pass rush. At pick 42, the Browns did not take Tank Dell. They took Keanu Benton for the interior of their defensive line.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Pick 43, the Jets get size and physicality and safety. Antonio Johnson from Texas A&M. Pick 44, the Falcons continue to tap into the edge market. They get Felix on a DK Uzama from Kansas State. Pick 45, the Packers get Michael Mayer, the do-it-all tight end from Notre Dame. Pick 46, the Patriots get offensive line help and Matthew Bergeron from Syracuse.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Pick 47, the Commanders take center slash maybe guard John Michael Schmitz from Minnesota. Pick 48, the Lions get Dan Campbell's alternate son, Jack Campbell, the linebacker from Iowa. Pick 49, linebacker again. The Steelers get Trenton Simpson from Clemson. Pick 50, the Bucs take center Joe Tippman from Wisconsin. Pick 51, center again. The Seahawks get Luke Whipler from Ohio State. The Dolphins continue the offensive line run
Starting point is 01:52:29 with Cody Mock from North Dakota State. Pick 53, the Chargers get Emmanuel Forbes. Slim corner from Mississippi State. At pick 54, the Bears take Tuli Palotu. The edge kind of line really anywhere. He's a big edge from USC. Pick 55, the Lions get Mazzy Smith, the hulking D tackle from Michigan.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Pick 56, the Jags capitalize on value at tight end. Luke Musgrave falls to them. Pick 57, the Giants continue the tight end run with Tucker Kraft. Pick 58, the Cowboys get edge pass rush help and Will McDonald. Pick 59, the Bills get a new starting safety in Jordan Battle from Alabama.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Pick 60. The Bengals get safety help in Sidney Brown from Illinois. Pick 61. The Panthers get Jameer Gibbs from Alabama. Pick 62. The Eagles take Drew Sanders from Arkansas. Finally, pick 63. The Chiefs take edge defender Derek Hall from Auburn.
Starting point is 01:53:22 There it is, folks. Let us know what you think. If you were watching this bad boy on YouTube, please like and subscribe to the channel and let us know what you thought of your favorite team's picks or any of the picks, just any of the crazy picks,
Starting point is 01:53:34 the ones that you liked, the ones that you didn't like. Let us know in the YouTube comments. It's the best way to start a lot of good conversations. We hope that we hear so many of them from you because there were just so many different picks. There was obviously a lot of back and forth
Starting point is 01:53:44 between Connor and I. Let us know what you thought about where the quarterbacks landed, the trades that we hear so many of them from you because there were just so many different picks there was obviously a lot of back and forth between connor and i let let us know what you thought about where the quarterbacks landed the trades that we did the second round for the first time here on this show we want to hear it all if you're not uh watching this bad boy on youtube and you're an audio only hit us up on twitter at tampa bay trey at conor g rogers you can do the same thing on instagram as well we will be back with you with a new episode a little bit later this week the new episodes are going to come out i I believe, Thursday and Friday this week. Give us a little extra time and give you guys a little bit of extra time to digest this whole mock draft. But we're going to recap what we saw from the combine. The combine is going to be entirely
Starting point is 01:54:14 wrapped up by then. We'll recap what we did for the combine draft, had a little bit of bragging rights, and then, of course, move on to our, man, a little bit of free agency preview, what we think is going to happen, how it's going to affect the draft. Plus we're going to get back into positional rankings. We're going to get into some of the positions that we haven't finished yet, but also start to get into those final rankings as well. So we can put together those final rankings, those final big boards, all that good stuff. Connor, anything else before we get out of here?
Starting point is 01:54:40 No, this was a beast, but I'm glad we did it. It will live in a lot of different formats on the channel. So everybody can catch up on it and we will be back later in the week. If you, I guess it's a little late to say this, but if you, you know, you don't have to burn this whole podcast in one listen, if you want to stretch it through Monday and Tuesday. Yeah. But you probably, you know, it's probably a little late to give that advice advice we will be back probably thursday i would say we'll have a new episode
Starting point is 01:55:08 on the feed i'm trevor sycamore that is connor rogers thank you guys so much for listening the nfl stock exchange podcast we'll see you next time Thank you.

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