NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 173. 2023 Draft Grades For All 32 Teams

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers bring you their longest podcast yet, giving you their grades for all 32 teams following the 2023 NFL Draft. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:37 It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. In this episode, we're giving instant draft grades for all 32 NFL teams. Connor and I are going up and down the entire draft list for all 32 teams, talking about the players that we like, the selections that we like, that they're spots,
Starting point is 00:01:04 did they trade up, did they trade down, how they navigated the draft, everything that goes into a draft strategy. And then, of course, the Hall of Players, rounds one through seven. How did we like it? We're going to let you know with grading format. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm
Starting point is 00:01:34 Trevor Sycamore. That is Connor Rogers joining you guys after the 2023 NFL draft has concluded. All three days of the draft are done, but you knew that the draft takes wouldn't stop here on this podcast. As we promised, Connor and I are back to give you our instant draft grades for all 32 NFL teams. We're going to be going division by division through this little bit of a lengthy podcast and talk about some of the guys at the top that we think are high impact players,
Starting point is 00:02:02 some draft steals that these guys or these teams got later in the, in the weekend. And Connor, I'm just excited for it, man. This is a lot of fun. Now that we know exactly where these teams have landed, we get the full picture, right? We get to see the draft strategies that unfolded, what they prioritized, what they never did, and some gems that might've fallen into their lap. So this is going to be a lot of fun grading these teams. It really is. It's always a fun process. You try to go about a lot of different things, value what the team was working with, some of the trade outs and compensation they got back, of course, value and need and of the players and overall talent. So a lot goes into this and you try to be fair. You try not to be overreactionary to each side. So, of course, there's a lot of B minuses and things like that,
Starting point is 00:02:44 because ultimately some teams only have so much to work with. And Trevor course, there's a lot of B minuses and things like that, because ultimately some teams only have so much to work with. And Trevor, it was funny that, you know, you said like we, you think it always leads up to the draft and then it's over. I saw some of our comments, which we appreciate. They were like, we're really going to miss this channel after the draft. Folks, we're not going anywhere, right? Like we might, we're going to scale back a little bit. Like you've been sometimes getting three to four episodes at a time during the week, or we went live and things like that. we are still going to be consistently on the channel throughout the off season at least once a week so i just want to make that loud and clear don't
Starting point is 00:03:12 leave us don't forget about us we're still here yes don't please don't hit unsubscribe we're begging you to please i need to feed my family my 12 kids need the food on the table 12 kids you and antonio cromarty can have a 11 tournament against each other so and if uh rogers cromarty shows up it would be even more fitting as my last name is rogers and his would be cromarty and then you'd have dominique rogers cromarty this is turning into like a francesa bit i have to stop myself right now this is my brain's absolutely mush and that can't be because we've got like an hour and 45 minutes this podcast yeah let's get it going so all right so let's start with the nfc east and we'll start with the dallas cowboys i'm gonna read most of these draft selections sometimes i won't read all of them because some teams like drafted 12 times so
Starting point is 00:03:58 i think you're going to be able to see them on the screen as we go through this podcast if you're watching this bad boy on youtube dallas cowboy started started off with Mozzie Smith in the first round, Luke Schoonmaker in the second round, the tight end from Michigan. So back-to-back Michigan picks there for him. DeMarvian Overshow and the linebacker from Texas goes in the third round. The Amy Fajoko, the edge rusher from San Jose state going into the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I seen Richards in the fifth round, the offensive tackle from UNC. A little bit further down the list, we have everybody's favorite feel-good story of the weekend. It felt like Deuce Vaughn, the running back out of Kansas State, getting picked by his dad. His dad got to make the call because his dad works for the Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And his dad actually got to call him and tell his son that he was getting drafted to that very same team. So Connor, what'd you give the Cowboys grade after the weekend man I kind of hate that you started with this one because this was not one of my favorite draft classes and I feel bad I classic classic us literally not talking about where we're going to go but no it had to be said eventually so it doesn't really matter I I like a lot of the things the Cowboys have done over the years. I think Will McClay does a really good job with this roster through the draft. And, you know, we're big Dak fans on this podcast and big CD fans on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:13 And to be fair, the Cowboys were picking pretty late in a not so loaded draft. But I gave this a C minus. Honestly, I just I think Mazzy Smith is a fine player. I think it makes them a little beefier and tougher in the middle, which is something that they were out to do. When you look at Shoemaker, he's someone that, sure, an older prospect. I thought his best work was done as a move blocker. Did you need to take that 58th overall?
Starting point is 00:05:38 It was a little early for me here. And then Trevor, I thought they just kind of struggled to get value, if I'm being honest with you. I just was looking through this draft for them and saying you know one of the Cowboys going to get that classic value pick that this guy shouldn't be here and I was a little frustrated with it as a whole like I I can't sit here and tell you I love the shoemaker pick when I like to Tucker Kraft and Darnell Washington so much better so yeah and I understand there's some medical stuff with Washington but we'll see how that plays out so a a C minus it's one of my, my tougher graded drafts. I'll say this. I try to do
Starting point is 00:06:10 a little value for everybody. I love that. They got Hunter Lukey, the fullback tight end running back in UDFA process. I think that's a nice little addition for them throughout all of this, but overall, I just didn't see the Cowboys get, listen, it's hard to get a difference maker considering where they were picking. But I really, really struggled with the value for them. And I thought Mozzie was a little bit of a reach, but I understand the need of that kind of player. I just didn't think they really did a good job in rounds two and three. And those were so pivotal points in this draft. Yeah, I give it a B minus.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I'm going to give the Cowboys a B- here. Okay. I think that Mozzie Smith made sense for what they were going for. We heard that they were going to add a little bit of beef on the interior defensive line. We talked about defensive line being one of their top priorities, top needs, if you will. So Mozzie going there makes sense because he is a more athletic defensive lineman if you're
Starting point is 00:07:05 going to take one in the first round that's kind of where your mind is going to go not so sure they would have even been on a guy like elijah can't see if elijah can't see made it there so i can understand the pick making sense i wasn't as high on mozzie smith as as a lot of other people were i thought his tape was a little bit hot and cold you know me we went over some of our tight end rankings i like luke schumacher i really do but again going back to your point tucker crafts on the board uh darn out washington especially is on the board and it's hard for me to say like okay you you knocked it out of the park because we knew that they were going to add a tight end and schumacher is somebody who i like versus the players that
Starting point is 00:07:40 were still on the board though kind of tough for me it was clearly a preference thing this is just a guy that they really like somebody who i think is going to be a better pro than he even was in college so it's hard for me to hate too much on the pick so i'm giving it a b minus probably could have given it a b but maybe it'll be a little bit harsh here because nobody really blew me away as the draft went on either overshown unique player am i sure he's going to thrive in the NFL? No. But I am curious to see how Dan Quinn prioritizes that length and where he puts him. Is he going to put him more on the edge? Is he going to leave him more as an off-ball linebacker?
Starting point is 00:08:15 What are you going to do with Overshawn, that former safety who's put on some weight, now playing at the second level? Are you going to get him even closer to the line scrimmage? To be seen, but it is a little bit of a tough draft class to evaluate. So I gave the Cowboys a B minus, but they did have the best feel good story of the draft with. That was awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Great moment. With Deuce Vaughn going where he did. Okay. How about I throw you a softball here? How about we go with the Philadelphia Eagles for the next election? Okay. Philadelphia Eagles. This one's going to be pretty easy.
Starting point is 00:08:44 They get Jalen Carter at number nine, overall trade up one spot with the Chicago bears to make that one happen. Get Nolan Smith, stop his slide at 30 in the first round, no second round selections, but Tyler Steen in round three, Sydney Brown in round three, Keely Ringo round four,
Starting point is 00:08:59 Tanner McKee round six. I mean, round six for Tanner McKee. All right. That's cool with me. More all Jomo all the way to the seventh round, dude. This is one of the best drafts out there. So what do you get? What's your final grade here for the Philadelphia Eagles? So I made a little pact with myself that
Starting point is 00:09:15 when we did this exercise, I'll only give out one a plus in the entire league. So I keep that in mind. I only want to do one a plus on this show. The Eagles got an a, this was a great draft, a really, really great draft. And they were getting all the praise they're getting. They deserved. I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:33 listen, we, we know Jalen Carter could be the best player in this draft. We love the infrastructure they have for him to succeed there. What Nolan Smith could do it as an undersized edge, a guy that got a lot of Hassan Reddit comps, Trevor, we had that conversation about him here so many different times. I really liked Tyler Steen.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I feel like this is the most underrated pick of the Eagles draft because everybody's like Georgia, Georgia, Georgia, and it's awesome. But Steen, I had him as the 66th overall player in the draft. They took him 65th. I think he can kick into guard and be a kick-ass guard. I know you were really high on Sidney Brown in a week safety class. He's a guy that's a big time tester. I thought the best value pick was Keely Ringo,
Starting point is 00:10:08 whether he plays corner or safety there. I don't really care. I just look at Ringo and go, man, he was somebody that I valued as a top 50 player at him 44th overall. I mean, I liked that they were aggressive to get him. And when you just consider the fact that they got him at 105, and then you go to Tanner McKee, who snuck into the end of my top 100 i think he was 99th they got him at 188 what is there to say about the eagles draft they just load up on talent the eagles are finding the fine balance of getting
Starting point is 00:10:37 picks that are oh we're a super bowl contender we got impact but also oh we are going to fill out starter holes when we can't pay certain free agents in two to three years as well. So great job by Howie Roseman. The Eagles deserve all the praise they've gotten. This is an A. I'm going to give it an A plus, man. I don't have the same rules that you do. I'm giving myself a little bit more freedom.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm probably going to hand out a couple of A pluses throughout this draft. There are three that come to my mind that I think that I'm going to get to A pluses. I'm still debating. I haven't said them yet on the podcast yet. And so it's like, okay, it's a fringe, but I think there are, the Eagles are one of those teams that absolutely deserve an A plus for the way that they drafted getting Jalen Carter all the way in the back end of the top 10 trading up to make sure that nobody else got them. It's hard to, it's, it's honestly hard to give them credit for picking nolan smith at 30 because nolan smith should have gone so much earlier it's almost like an obvious dub but they made it happen at the end of the day they're prioritizing a lot of the players on this georgia
Starting point is 00:11:34 defense keely ringo for as much like you said for as much as we criticize maybe some of the deficiencies that he has in his game when it comes to the flexibility and change directions flipping the hit fourth round come on i mean it's an easy it's an easy choice for a great value pick there with keely ringo you and i saw tyler steen very similarly and what he could be as a interior player or a spot starter at tackle and then sydney brown one of my favorite football players in this entire class him getting to play on that eagles defense i think it's a perfect identity fit. Absolutely love it. Eagles get an A plus for me. Washington Commanders, another team that might have a very interesting grade. I'm curious to get your take on. They had some needs along the offensive line and they had
Starting point is 00:12:15 some needs at corner and the defensive back. I was wondering where they were going to prioritize them. And clearly the way the board fell, they liked a lot of guys in the secondary because their first two selections, Emmanuel Forbes in the first round and then jartavius martin the safety slash nickel corner from illinois in the second round then in third and fourth round they go to the trenches ricky stromberg the center from arkansas in the third round braden daniels the offensive tackle from utah in the in the fourth kj henry um a sound veteran good presence edge player from clemson yeah chris rodriguez a powerhouse kind of a running back in the fourth kj henry um a sound veteran good presence edge player from clemson yeah chris rodriguez a powerhouse kind of a running back in the sixth round and then andre jones in the seven
Starting point is 00:12:51 what'd you think of the commander's choice selection we figured offensive line and corner were going to be the spots they go after but prioritizing them the way that they did with the players that they ended up selecting what grade he had i thought they put their hard hat on for rounds two through five like it was really impressive what they were able to do in terms of attacking their needs and i don't hate emmanuel forbes i didn't value him as a first round player i valued him as a late second round player so it's not like forbes is this disaster class kind of pick there it's just it was a reach to me it was earlier i would have taken gonzalez but we'll see how that out. But your Tavius Martin, the athleticism and the ability to play in the slot or play free safety. Phenomenal. I graded Ricky Stromberg
Starting point is 00:13:32 as a future starting center in this league. I really liked Braden Daniels in this draft. I was actually surprised at how little buzz he got to play insider outs. I really probably play all five positions. Is it a little early for him? Maybe item at 140. Like I've said before, picks one slots, 105 to 185. Positional value and need kind of, you know, matters a lot here where you don't get too hung up on that. KJ Henry was the value pick.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I had him at 111. They got him at 137. I think he's a guy that gives a lot of effort as a rusher and is really figuring it out. So I'm sneaking a spin move there this season. I like what he could do. The commanders for me were a B minus. I mean, if they took, if they took Gonzalez in the first round, I would have given them an A that's or an A minus I would say, but I thought they got starters in rounds two through five or guys with starting potential. And that is very, very hard to do. So this was a solid draft for Washington
Starting point is 00:14:25 yeah I I I liked it as well I would give them a B this would be a B draft for me and it really all hinges upon Emmanuel Forbes right because I agree with what you said you got good athleticism for Braden Daniels he'll give you that swing tackle versatility I like Ricky Stromberg as well D'Artavius Martin was a top 50 player for me. I believe he was 48 on my big board. He ends up getting picked at number 47. So right around that same kind of value. So you know I like that. KJ Henry, really high floor edge player
Starting point is 00:14:54 that I think is going to maximize some of the depth that they need now, right? That they're going to need, not just this year, because they got Montez Sweat and Chase Young for this year, but next year, they're moving on from one of those guys. They're going to have to have somebody who's at least in the system they can feel good about to fortify that depth of the defensive line and the address room, especially because there's a lot of money
Starting point is 00:15:12 already invested in it with Deron Payne and John Allen. So it really all just hinges upon Emmanuel Forbes. Is he this ball hawking playmaker who's going to just be a shutdown type of corner and a major turnover machine at the NFL level, a guy who's going to get you a lot of forcing completions, a lot of plays on the ball? Or is that weight at 166, that zeroth percentile weight going to overpower even some of the great stuff that we saw at Mississippi State on his tape? I had him 30th, I believe, on my big board.
Starting point is 00:15:46 You had Forbes much lower, right? Yeah, I think 59th. So you had him much lower. So that explains that just my overall grade's a little bit higher than yours. I got a little bit more faith in Forbes. I agree if this would have been Christian Gonzalez, it would have been a fantastic draft.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It would have been two of my favorite defensive backs and then some nice beef that you're adding in the mid-tier round so this one gets a b for me but if forbes works out man then it's a class that yeah it is it is a class that's going to uh look a lot different there so all right we got the eagles we got the cowboys we got the commanders now it's time to get to the new york giants see what their grade Deontay Banks, their first selection at number 24. A little bit of a trade from 25 to 24 to make that happen. The cornerback from Maryland, John Michael Smith, your boy. The center from Minnesota going in the second round.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Then Jalen Hyatt in the third. Didn't have a fourth-round pick. Got Eric Gray in the fifth round. Trey Hawkins, Jordan Riley, Javariusens is is how we rounded this one out so what did you think about this class what grade are you giving the giants i think joe shane and working with his staff did a really really good job i gave the giants a b plus i was impressed with their ability to hit on positional value while still really addressing their true needs that's what stood out to me with the giants they needed that number one corner of the future.
Starting point is 00:17:06 They got banks and they were aggressive to move up to get banks or swap to get banks. They've been doing so much work on corner leading up to this draft. And I think they were even pleasantly surprised that one of their guys fell to them. John Michael Schmitz, maybe the highest floor of any interior offensive lineman in this draft and the Giants don't have a center. So the fact they got him at 57 is tremendous. I like Jalen Hyatt. I really do. I understand why he slid, but I looked at Hyatt as a guy that was a surefire round two player. I had him 40th overall. Now you have a vertical threat that takes some defenders out of the box and stresses the back
Starting point is 00:17:41 end of the defense that Saquon Barkley could do damage. Hopefully they figure out what's going on there and he'll be back. And if they don't, my value pick was Eric Gray. I liked Eric Gray in this draft. He went 172nd overall. I had him 119th. I think he's a good pass catcher. I love his ability to cut in the open field
Starting point is 00:17:58 and make defenders miss. The Giants didn't have the pick in this draft where it's like superstar, but they got starters at needs that are really good players. And that's a B plus, which on my scale, like where they were picking, that's hard to do. So shout out to Joe Shane and the Giants. Nice job.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah, so much so I'm giving them a little bit higher of a grade. I'm going to give them an A minus. I like this draft a ton, man. When you look at things rounds one through seven, of course there's going to be some less notable names anywhere past round four it's to me that's not really what that's about if you get some extra steals in there yes that could bump up your grade a little bit but it's really to me about what you did especially in those rounds one through three the rounds that you know you need impact either at the starter level or good depth rotational players for the giants they selected three players which at one point in time were all being mocked to them
Starting point is 00:18:49 in the first round right jalen hyatt is a potential deep threat receiver that they could have gotten in the first round now of course we are calibrated now to where jalen hyatt stock should have been but third round jalen hyatt it's good value that's where that's where they should have picked him and he's a receiver that is great for him to really stretch the field. It's something that they weren't able to do or did not do last year. Maybe it was because they didn't have this type of player. John Michael Schmitz, plug and play interior offensive
Starting point is 00:19:13 lineman, and then Deontay Banks going to the New York Giants might be my favorite fit of the entire draft. Player team fit. Because the New York Gi giants played more cover zero and more cover one than any team in the nfl last year that is don wink martindale their defensive coordinator it is we're going to play man coverage we're going to man you up we're going to go after
Starting point is 00:19:37 receiver to cornerback matchups and we're going to blanket you while we do a lot of creative things up front but you can only do that up front if you have the corners in the back that you have faith in that's exactly what Deontay Banks is Deontay Banks is a hey you see that wide receiver don't let him catch the pass and he goes okay coach that is he is a man coverage machine he could play up and press he can get physical with you he could turn and run we know he's got great athleticism love the fit there's an a minus for me just because they didn't make as much of a splash in the later rounds to get a full A, but A-minus, I thought the Giants did a fantastic job. Let's go to the NFC North now. Green Bay Packers is where I'm going to start things off. Lucas Van Ness at number 13, so no JSN, no tight end there.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Lucas Van Ness at the end of the day. Luke musgrave jayden reed in the second tucker craft in the third kobe wooden the edge rusher from auburn in the fourth sean qb1 sean clifford in the fifth from penn state montavious wicks from virginia who i know had a lot of fans in the fifth round as well carl brooks as their sixth round steal then you get a kicker and a handful of picks that happened after that oh i got i got a shout out anthony johnson jr as well the safety from state who they got in the seventh round i think that was a really nice pick by them but connor what's your grade overall for the packers here really torn on this draft i've gone back and forth a lot and i landed on a b minus because i think they got a ton of value in anthony johnson jr he went at 242 i had him at 138. i
Starting point is 00:21:04 think there's a chance that better player than that. Yeah, very odd. Maybe there's something we don't know there medical wise or who knows, but I just thought he's somebody that at a minimum is your third safety, like third safeties in the NFL. Don't go at 242. That's wild to me. So that was a great pick. I like Lucas Van Ness power profile. This was just a roller coaster of a draft. And this is what almost made it more in the C's range. I like Jaden Reed. I did not value Jaden Reed over Marvin Mims, Tank Dell, Jalen Hyatt, Cedric Tillman, Josh
Starting point is 00:21:37 Downs, Michael Wilson. I just didn't. I got to be honest here. Like, I think Jaden Reed could be a nice fourth wide receiver and a great return man. And when somebody gets hurt, he steps in as your number three. But you got to be honest of where the board was. This one surprised me. I'm not a huge Luke Musgrave fan, but they took Tucker Kraft later on, who I liked better
Starting point is 00:21:57 than Musgrave. So they kind of canceled out. Colby. Colby Wooden is a really interesting player in terms of his versatility as a rusher. The Sean Clifford pick is one of the laughers of the draft, honestly, in my eyes. Like the fact you thought you had to do this at 149 tells me you did not understand how the quarterbacks would go. I just like, right. Where did I didn't think he I didn't know Sean Clifford would be a priority UDFA.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I honestly thought he would be like the Tim DeMora at like camp arm rookie camp signing. Just I have to be honest. Like, and it's not just me look across the, I did 300 players. Some people did more. I don't see Sean Clifford. I think I saw our friend,
Starting point is 00:22:32 John led your tweet that Zerline had him for 99 out of the 500. He did. This is, it was just, you can get value at one 49. So it's a B minus for me because they had so many picks and they got like Anthony Johnson jr. And granted bows are good value picks in the seventh round.
Starting point is 00:22:48 I really liked that. I had Carrington Ballantyne, the cornerback out of Kentucky is a draftable player. Carl Brooks didn't test well, but at one 79, like you take a chance on the film. Sure. I like Van Ness.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I really like craft reads a fine player. I just would have taken a different wide receiver. It's a B minus. They, they are an odd team, but I'm not sitting here surprised at all. Besides the Clifford pick. This is exactly what I thought the Packers would do.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I actually had Van Ness at 13 to them in my final mock draft for NBC. And I like that. Wow. What did you do? Little, little, little puff of the chest there that you got. I was,
Starting point is 00:23:21 I was, it was one of those, like, I think I'm finally getting the Packers. I was like, it was such a proud moment. I'm i think i finally understand them although reed reed shocked me i thought they'd go bigger wide receiver yeah um this one's a c for me packers great as a c i get it i get it vaness overdrafted compared to my board musgrave
Starting point is 00:23:40 overdrafted compared to my board re same thing Tucker craft same thing like they just overdrafted all of these players in my opinion now sometimes you need to do that in the draft like you're trying to go get your guy or trying to get a little bit aggressive but they did that all across the board I don't mind the way that they attack things and that's why this is a C at worst to me because I like going edge rusher in the first round doubling up on tight end I do like the strategy get another wide receiver in there that's fine but like the guys that they picked and when they picked them i just did not enjoy this draft strategy from the packers it's kind of my personal preference of how i saw these guys i didn't mind how they attacked the draft but again the players that they drafted where they
Starting point is 00:24:18 drafted them um for the most part were reaches versus my board. Versus consensus, by the way. Not just you, not just me, like versus the world. Right. So it's just against the grain kind of a draft. And I don't see the players as similarly as the Packers do. I had Lucas Van Ness in the 30s on my big board. Although I do like the spot for Lucas Van Ness.
Starting point is 00:24:45 He was much lower on my board. So I had to give this one a G. Would you have taken JSN though? So it's. I would have taken JSN. It's different because would I have taken JSN? Yes. Would the Packers have taken JSN?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Never. So it's hard. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to have those talks. It's hard to even answer that question when I don't think it was ever in the realm of actually happening with the green bay packers i mean shoot i probably would have taken broderick jones over lucas van ness he's higher on my board depending on what they depending on what they think about david bakhtiari and their long-term need to tackle i might have even taken broderick jones in that spot so just not a draft that i love didn't love it uh i'm very curious to watch jordan love this year because
Starting point is 00:25:31 i don't i think it's it's not the easiest situation personally yeah let's go be sort of vikings next jordan addison in round one pick 23 didn't have a second round pick this is a team that entered the weekend with only five picks mckai Blackman, the cornerback from USC, getting him at 102. I think that's pretty nice value. They got Jay Ward, the corner from LSU in the fourth round. Ja'Kalen Roy, the defensive lineman from LSU in the fifth round. Jaron Hall in the fifth round as well. No sixth round pick.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And then my boy all the way in the seventh round. Kind of shocked about this one. Dwayne McBride for the running back out of UAB. What grade are you giving the Vikings here? I give them a B. I think the Vikings did really well. While not spectacular, I like Jordan Addison a lot. I actually think he will be the most impactful
Starting point is 00:26:13 rookie wide receiver because of this landing spot. I think Jay Ward and Jaqueline Roy, the back-to-back LSU picks, were underrated players in a not-so-great situation this year. I've said before, I thought Roy got held a lot this year and didn't get the calls and he plays really hard. Ward is a team leader over there. That's kind of this versatile defensive back. The value pick for me here, Trevor, that
Starting point is 00:26:34 I know I kind of want to toss to you right away because I know you love him. Dwayne McBride, I had him at 125. He went 222. So yeah, the Vikings hit on needs, got some some value not a splashy draft but i think a much needed one i have this as a b plus i'm good i'm giving i'm giving the vikings as a b plus here i was a little bit hesitant to give them a higher than a b grade just because i felt like they could have gotten out of 23 and still got a handful of picks, maybe around the second, third, fourth round, to get some more throws of the dartboard a little bit earlier on in this draft. But Kweisi Adafo-Mensa is not a general manager who I believe was stubborn to trying to trade back. This is somebody who we've seen has even traded within his own division.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like when there is a deal to be made, he is open to it. So I have to believe that from everything that we've seen about Adolfo Meza, the phone lines were open. He tried to move back and there probably just was not a good price. There probably were not a lot of players still there that were enticing enough to warrant where they were going to trade back to if it would have been the high 30s, low 40s, low 40s, whatever it is. And so instead they stick and they take Jordan Addison, who I agree with
Starting point is 00:27:49 you completely. I'm much lower on Jordan Addison than I think the consensus is. I had him somewhere on the 40s on my big board, but this spot specifically loved the potential for production here. I mean, he's immediately wide receiver two in that group, loved the combination of him with Justin Jefferson. So the fact that they could not move out, still select Jordan Addison, got Makai Blackman, who I think could be an impact player for their secondary very quickly. And then you got veterans like Ward and Roy.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Hall, you're taking a chance on. I don't know if Hall is ever going to really be able to stick around at the NFL level, but then you're getting a running back that I had in the top five of my running back rankings. Somebody who I love the vision. I love the footwork. I love the contact balance.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Wasn't really used a ton as a receiver. Absolutely needs to stop fumbling the football. Yeah, that's a big one. And then, okay, he doesn't have the long speed. I get it. But on a down to down basis, man, I think that this guy is going to give you a positive roi on a lot of his carries at the nfl level so honestly this i did not think that the vikings were going to be one of my
Starting point is 00:28:51 more favorable drafts but a b plus is what i came to for them i get it i really do um you want to move to chicago yes let's do the bears Bears had a lot of picks in this draft. They obviously flipped out of nine to 10 with the Eagles. They had two twos. They had two fours. They walk away with Darnell Wright in the first round, Gervin Dexter and Tyreek Stevenson in the second round to help out their defense. Zach Pickens in the third, Roshan Johnson and Tyler Scott to help out their offense in the fourth. They had two fits, Noah Sewell and Terrell Smith, two defensive players, Sewell linebacker from Oregon, Terrell Smith cornerback from Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Then in the seventh round, Travis Bell, DT from Kennesaw State, and then Kendall Williamson, a DB from Stanford at pick 258. Trevor, what did you think of this one? This was a long draft. I debated between B plus and A minus, and I'm, I'm really just on the, on,
Starting point is 00:29:46 on the fence between where I am here. Ultimately I landed on giving them a B plus, but love Darnell, right? You train back a little bit, still getting Darnell, right? I think he's just obviously a starting right tackle for him.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Dude, if you get Darnell right next to Tevin Jenkins, that is status. That is the bash brothers on the right side of the offensive line for the Chicago bears. I absolutely love that tandem and that mentality that they get there. So love Darnell Wright, Gervin Dexter. Okay, this is kind of where, I don't want to say you lose me a little bit,
Starting point is 00:30:14 but they had to, it depends how they view Gervin Dexter. If they think that Dexter can evolve into this pass rusher for them, they're going to be disappointed. And all of a sudden, maybe the plan of how this draft came together changes a little bit for me. But if they looked at Gervin Dexter and just said, we want to get stout up front, this guy can help you do it. He's not quick out of his stance.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Doesn't have a ton of bursts in that regard, but he's long. He's strong. He can hold up against the point of attack. And if you're not double teaming him, man, he can stack and shed you and get off and make tackles at the line scrimmage so i think he's a good football player in that regard tyreek stevenson um i seem to be higher on than most i liked him a lot in this class he was a top 40 player for me somewhere around 40 um they end up getting him at 56 so that's good value for me i think he's a future starter for them on the outside
Starting point is 00:31:04 opposite jalen johnson zach pickens nice athleticism on the interior roshan johnson i like as a rotational back there now for them tyler scott the number six overall receiver that i had in this class and they got him at 133 huge value for me i love the field stretching ability i love the speed okay he's not the most polished route runner he's not going to be the most nuanced with routes, but I like this draft a lot. If Noah Sewell ends up becoming something for him, even if he's just a runaway train going straight at the line of scrimmage in the
Starting point is 00:31:33 A-gap, I mean, this one's a B-plus for me. I did like this draft quite a bit. So we saw this one a little differently. I gave him a C-plus, which I know is harsh. That's harsh, man. I did not like day two at all at all. Like, I got to be honest. I hated, I think, all three day two picks.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Stevenson might be my favorite of them because I think he'll be OK. I had him 87th. I knew he was going to go earlier. It took him 56. That's fine. You get another corner. That's long. But early for Dexter. I didn't see
Starting point is 00:32:06 any pass rush in his game. I agree with everything you said about his strength pickings at 64. Now where they made up a lot of grant and Darnell, right? A tennis like that's earlier than I would have taken Darnell, right? But this was the team that I thought made the most sense for Darnell, right? Especially when you look at their spot at right tackle and trying to be a physical run team. Love the Roshan pick. Love the Tyler Scott pick. Love the Terrell Smith pick. They took him at 165. I mean, I had him 67th overall. I thought he was better than Tyreek Stevenson. If you flip those two picks, everything makes sense. He has length. He has turn and run speed. He found the football this year. So for the Bears, I mean, it's just a little tough for me, right? Like it's really, it's tough. If they took Jalen Carter at nine, instead of letting the Eagles do that,
Starting point is 00:32:55 I just thought that was, I'd rather take the risk on Jalen Carter than darn. Okay. I think that's what it comes down to me. That that's where this draft differed for me. And I know people valued right here. I just, I didn't, I didn't value to me. That's where this draft differed for me. And I know people valued right here. I just, I didn't. I didn't value right here. I would not have done that move. It's not a colossal failure, this draft. They got a ton of value on day three.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I just thought they just reached on day two three times in a row, and I just can't wrap my head around that. So I want to see Chicago get some difference makers. I don't know if they did that. You and I just see Darnell Wright and Tyreek Stevenson very differently. I think that's what it comes down to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't factor in the Jalen Carter thing, although maybe I should have. It's hard for me to factor that into teams because it's a conversation that we've had all weekend long. If you have Jalen Carter on your board at all, he's probably your number one overall player, right? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And there's probably a lot of teams in the NFL that didn't even have him on their board. They're like, we're not messing with him. We don't want it. So it's hard for us to kind of quantify that for different teams. But we just saw this class a little bit differently with Darnell Wright and Tyreek Stevenson. I think that that's the big difference maker there.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Detroit Lions, last team in this division. Oh, buddy. Yeah, this is going to be a big one. I'm curious as to what your grade is here. Jameer Gibbs at number 12 overall. They started at number 6, end up getting to number 12. Take Jameer Gibbs there to kick things off. Jack Campbell at 18. Sam Laporta and Brian Branch in the second round.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Hendon Hooker in the third round. Broderick Martin in the third round. Nothing in the fourth round. Colby Swordstall, the offensive tackle from William and Mary in the fifth. Nothing in the sixth. Antoine Green in the seventh. Connor, what grade are we giving the Detroit Lions here? B-plus for the Detroit Lions. I think they got a shitload of good players in this draft.
Starting point is 00:34:42 I don't care that everybody hates Jameer Gibbs at 12. I don't care that everybody hates Jack Campbell at 18. I get it. Positional value was not there. When I walk away from this draft, let me put it like this, Trevor. Put Brian Branch at 18. Jack Campbell at 45. Done.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Jameer Gibbs at 19 or 20. Listen. And the Lions got more picks. Let's not forget, they did move out and get more draft capital, which does factor into this grade. I think their first four picks are going to be really good players. I really do. I think Gibbs is going to fit in really nicely there.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Campbell's going to start in the middle of the field for a long time. Laporte is a jack-of-all of all trades tight end with some explosiveness. I love the fit for Brian Branch to this team that I put him at 18 multiple times throughout the year. They got him at 45. Why not take Hendon Hooker at 68 and see what you have? I mean, who the hell cares? And then I mean, the weird one for me was Broderick Martin. I thought I liked Broderick Martin. When I watched Broderick Martin, I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:46 damn, Broderick Martin is a draftable player. Good for him. I put him at 2. How about at 96? I put him at 233 in the seventh round. I was like, this is going to be a nice little D-line, like sneaks onto the roster for somebody in the sixth or seventh round. They took him at 96.
Starting point is 00:36:01 What? What? So that one, I can't even wrap my head around in the top 100 but the first four picks are what matters in this draft and I think the Lions did really well and I know I feel like I just made myself like public enemy number one of Bears fans for not liking their draft and loving the Lions I just go with my board guys that's that's what it is. I don't know. I think the Lions did well. I do. It's a hot take, I guess. Everybody hates their draft. Well,
Starting point is 00:36:30 I had Jack Campbell at 25. I don't know why nobody cared about him in this draft. I'm still waiting for someone to explain that to me. Hold on. Okay. I gotta ask you this. Because you brought it up. I give them a B minus by the way. I'm giving, I'm giving,
Starting point is 00:36:50 I give them a B minus because they had good football players. I'm not going to kill them. They got good football players, but I can't give them higher than a B minus because of the way they went about it. Does them picking Sam Laporta over Michael Mayer. I didn't hear you talk about that at all. That is very, very fair.
Starting point is 00:37:04 That, you know what I'm saying. That is very, very fair. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, that is fair. The Lions just didn't give a shit about anybody else's outside opinion. I know fans are going to love that, obviously, and maybe sometimes that's necessary, but their value of players
Starting point is 00:37:21 is kind of all over the place versus consensus. It's a complicated draft to evaluate. Very complicated. Very. I could have given this a C. I could have given this an A. And I landed a B plus.
Starting point is 00:37:35 The reason why I landed on a B minus is because I like the football players that they drafted. And at the end of the day, the Detroit Lions got better after this weekend. I really do believe that. So it's hard for me to be too much harsher on them for that. You also, when we talk about positional value in the NFL draft, I still don't think there's enough context that is within the conversation about that. You can operate a little bit differently when you're in a winning window. You can.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You don't want to get carried away with consistently drafting against what is recommended positional value because your roster is just not going to be healthy. Your return on investment is not going to be what it needs to be. You're going to be betting on a lot of positions that don't necessarily move the needle a ton for your team in the direction of becoming a healthy, long-standing, winning window type of a team. You just don't really build a healthy roster if you don't take positional value into account when you're drafting. However, the Lions clearly went after their roster needs
Starting point is 00:38:34 pretty hard in this draft because they believe they are about to really enter a winning window and take control of their division. And make a lot of noise. In a weak NFC conference. They clearly did not like DeAndre Swift. They were clearly ready to move on from him. So instead. With Bijan Robinson off the board.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You go get the only other back. That you think is dynamic enough. To make a difference in your team. For a potential playoff run. Okay I understand that. They also want to make sure they are reliable and healthy at the linebacker level. They've got Malcolm Rodriguez, who was a great steal for them. And they have Alex Anzalone, who has been hurt quite a bit throughout his NFL career. You get Jack Campbell in there. You're okay with that. Brian Branch. Now he's, he could
Starting point is 00:39:18 potentially be an immediate starter for you in the nickel in a revamped secondary room. Sam Laporta replaces some of the targets that you lost from not having TJ Hockinson anymore and with the receivers down to start the season. The positional value part of the Lions draft will not line up to what is like standard practice, what you should do. But the context of where the Detroit Lions are right now as a team makes this more understandable. You don't want to do this every year, but some years you can, because some years you need talent at these positions, even if they're lower on the positional value board. So B minus for the Lions. I didn't hate it nearly as much as other people did. And in fact i tried
Starting point is 00:40:05 to understand it for where they are at the winning window that's what i thought about the lines i like it all right let's move to the nfc south and start with your tampa bay buccaneers here um pretty big draft class i feel like for the bucks they had a first and second round pick both obviously in the top 50 they had then around three pick they had two fives two and three sixes so for me i'll start with you actually here trevor they kind of a shocker them taking cancey and not that i'm against that at all i just didn't right we didn't think this is something that they would do uh a really interesting draft for the bucks we can't see the first round pick cody mauck their second round pick yaya diaby their third round pick is Cody Malk. Their second round pick, Yaya Diaby. Their third round pick, is it Servaccia? Servaccia, Dennis?
Starting point is 00:40:48 Servosia, I believe. Servosia, that makes a lot more sense. I believe, I believe. The linebacker from Pitt, Payne Durham, tight end from Purdue, Josh Hayes from Kansas State, Trey Palmer, speedy wide receiver from Nebraska, and Jose Ramirez, one of my favorite day three picks, the pass rusher from Eastern Michigan.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Trevor, what did you think of the Bucs here? Extremely Bucs draft. This has Jason Light's fingerprints all over it. Ultimately, I'd give it a B minus because the fallout from this draft is that Luke Gedeke is going to play right tackle for them and Tristan Wirth is going to move over to left tackle. And if Luke Gedeke works out at right tackle, then this could be great because they to move over to left tackle. And if Luke Getty works out at right tackle,
Starting point is 00:41:26 then this could be great because they move him over to right tackle. You're plugging Cody mock in. Cause he's going to play on the interior for you. Maybe it totally works out. I'm I'm a little more cautious. And I liked the Anton Harrison from Oklahoma a lot. He was still on the board at 19. He would have been my selection for them at 19. I would have taken care of the offensive tackle part before I went to the
Starting point is 00:41:48 defensive line. I like Kaleid Jekansi. I was a little bit lower on him than you were. I wonder what he is in this Todd Bowles defense. Is he an edge rusher for them? And if that's the case, the arm length may really become an issue for them with that lack of reach. If he's going to be more of an edge rusher, if he's more of an interior player do they have the guys around him to make sure that he's masked enough to not uh get exposed by double teams in the run game or is he just a situational rotational interior defensive lineman because you don't want to be drafting that at 19 i'm skeptical of kind of how they went about it but it's like yeah yeah diaby i think is great he's a he's a fantastic versatile rotational player for a multiple front todd bulls defense. Payne Durham is really nice depth of the tight end room, which they're still
Starting point is 00:42:29 trying to build out. Really liked the Trey Palmer selection. I think he could be a back end of the roster guy. Jose Ramirez is a nice, nice choice to round it out, but it's not how I would have been about it, how I would have gone about it. I'm giving them a B minus. I still like the players that they drafted, but you're really betting on Luke Gedeke to be a good right tackle for you in this situation. I'm just not so sure I would have made that same bet. I gave him a B minus for almost the same exact reasons. The players value-wise, like Hansi, Mok, and Diaby,
Starting point is 00:42:59 if you kind of combine them together, the value pretty much evens out with my board. So I had no problem with the first three picks that they made. Didn't really love their day three, but they also, you know, were picking starting in the fifth round. And I did the value pick for me was Jose Ramirez. I'm at 196 item 161. They got him at 196.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Now you get some project rushers and him and Diaby in there. I think they'll hit on one of those two guys. I like that box making the movie in the interior. I think they'll hit on one of those two guys. I like that Mock's making the move in the interior. I think Cancy's going to be a stud. But yeah, I have some concerns about now the offensive line shifting. And I really didn't see much value in either of their fifth round picks. So it was a solid draft. It's not going to be a dud.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I really love Cancy, but I also just saw a roster strategy that concerns you a little bit. Yeah, it's not going to be a dud, but there are still question marks on both trenches for the Buccaneers that didn't necessarily get answered this weekend. Maybe they will get answered in the future. Maybe they did make the right choices. I'm just a little bit cautious of that.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So it'll be a minus for me as well. Atlanta Falcons, Bijan Robinson at number eight overall. Matthew Bergeron in the second round, the offensive lineman from Syracuse. Zach Harrison in the third round, the edge rusher from Ohio State. Clark Phillips, the corner from Utah, ends up going in the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Nothing in the fifth or sixth rounds. Alabama safety, DeMarco Hellams in the seventh. Javon Wynn, the South Carolina guard in the seventh as well. What do we think of the Atlanta Falcons draft and a running back going in the top 10, Connor? A B for me. The Falcons know what they are, and I respect that. They loaded up on defense in free agency.
Starting point is 00:44:39 They are going to run the hell out of the football. And to do that, they took one of the best players in the draft and Bijan Robinson at eight and then they took one of the best run blockers in the draft in Matthew Bergeron at 38 he's gonna play guard I absolutely love that little early for Zach Harrison but they did need a beefy edge they have all these speedy thin edge rushers love the Clark Phillips pick Clark Phillips for me was player 49 they got him at 113 i think he could play inside maybe even a little bit outside for them honestly even though he's uh out of his weight class there so falcons did a nice job to be honest with you um i have
Starting point is 00:45:16 no problem with taking bijan i think we'll laugh when we look back and go bijan was a top four player from the draft cool i'm interested in what the return on investment is going to be for almost everybody in this entire class, but I'm going to give it a B because I do like the players, right? I like B. John Robinson, but you already had the number three overall rushing attack in the NFL. Did you need to draft B. John at number eight? Good question. And it's one of those things, right? I like to, right. And I guess that they're trying to take the crown. And I love B.an Robinson in this offense. I love this fit. Arthur Smith's going to make an incredible player out of them,
Starting point is 00:45:49 not just as a ball carrier, but as a pass catcher too. It's going to be great to watch. But again, you were already great at that level. How much does it increase what you do on offense overall? I guess we'll see. Cause he has a great talent to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Love Matthew Bergeron. You know how great, how much I like him. He's super in control and him getting on that nastiness kind of offensive line with the falcons might be the best for him because sometimes he looks like he needs to play with a little bit more fire and i think maybe this offensive line is going to be perfect for him zach harrison unique size in the defensive line clark phillips i like is that um depth kind of corner but again what's the return on investment
Starting point is 00:46:22 can you play him at nickel can he survive at nickel do you play him outside what what's the arm length when he gets to the outside you're drafting a damn good football player though so gave him a b as well let's move on to the new orleans saints they took brian berzee at 29 at the back end of the first round isaiah foskey in the second kendre miller in the third nick salda very at the top of the fourth round i will add had to trade up to go get him to start day three of the draft jay kaner in the fourth round, I will add, had to trade up to go get him to start day three of the draft. Jake Hayner in the fourth round, too. Jordan Howden in the fifth round. A.T. Perry in the sixth. What we think of the Saints here, Connor? This one didn't do it for me, if I'm going to be honest with you. This was a C. The value pick was A.T. Perry. They got him at 195. I had him at 131. I mean, Kendrick Miller's a fine player. I don't think the Saints needed to go running back in the
Starting point is 00:47:04 third round here. And I thought I valued a lot of backs higher than him as much as they wanted a tough runner in that spot. 40 for Foskey. We are full circle on that. Back to summer. I didn't see him that way. I really didn't. I want to pull up the order of how the defensive ends or the edge players went in this draft.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So Foskey went before Keon White, went before Tully to pull out to, I, I just can't get behind that. It's, it's hard for me for Z. I think I'm really rooting for Brian Brzee. He had a tough year.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I have no problem taking the 29 because you're betting on the talent and, and the health to go on the right direction. I like South of Barry might be my favorite pick of this group. Sal Daveri and Hayner are my two favorite picks. I think Hayner will be a great backup for them. I think Sal Daveri will play all over the offensive line. I just, to be honest with you, disliked the value of all three of their first picks.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And I just can't give it anything higher than a C when that's the case. Yeah, C plus for me. I knew that any team that selected Brian Brzee early, it was just going to be a confusing and maybe lower grade for me because I'm just not nearly as high on him. I don't know what you're getting out of Brian Brzee. He's the exact player that the Saints draft every year along the defensive line. So it makes total sense and perhaps is the best spot for him.
Starting point is 00:48:27 You know how much I like Foskey, but did not expect him to go in the second round where he did again, Kendra Miller, good football player. I think he was overdrafted a little bit there. Sal the variant Hainer are my favorite two picks of this draft. Perry, a nice little, nice little player to bet on. I didn't mind him as a sixth round pick. In fact, I thought that that was some nice value there to just take a chance on him. But
Starting point is 00:48:45 C-plus there for me with the New Orleans Saints. Carolina Panthers, last team in this division. Obviously starting things off at the very top with Bryce Young going number one. Jonathan Mingo in the second round. How about that? Ole Miss wide receiver. DJ Johnson, the athletic edge rusher from Oregon in the third.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Chandler Zavala, the offensive guard for NC State in the fourth. And then Jamie Robinson, the safety from Florida State in the fifth. What do Zavala, the offensive guard for NC State in the fourth. And then Jamie Robinson, the safety from Florida State in the fifth. What do we think, Connor? I give this one a B+. That is heavily skewed by the fact that I love Bryce Young. They got a franchise quarterback in the draft. So how do you sit here and kill a draft that has that?
Starting point is 00:49:18 Only a five-player class. I like Mingo's fit with them. It goes back to the Jaden Reed conversation of, I liked other wide receivers better than him. This was one of my favorite potential landing spots for Cedric Tillman. But I mean, they like the type of player Mingo is a unique body type, um,
Starting point is 00:49:37 can be used in a lot of different ways, get size and explosiveness at the position. DJ Johnson at 80 was way, way, way too early. way too early. Way too early. Way too early. That one, I don't know what they saw to do that.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Just speed. Just speed. Zavala, if his back is okay, he'll be a starter for them, which is massive. He's great in pass pro. Jamie Robinson in the fifth round, like just a rock solid, good tackling, fundamentally sound safety. So a draft that's heavily skewed by how good Bryce Young is,
Starting point is 00:50:07 and they get credit for making that move. I think it was brilliant. But they did get some guys that'll be significant role players for them considering they didn't have a lot of draft capital to do it. B plus. I gave it a B minus. Bryce, you didn't overthink that you went with the right selection, number one overall, but I don't know how much credit to give you that.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I guess the move up, the trade up to go get aggressive and go get the franchise quarterback. That was it for me. Yeah, I mean, I guess they went up and got their guy, and they needed to. So I'm still going to go with a B-, but I'm at least talking it out loud here. Jonathan Mingo, I like as a wide receiver, but as you guys remember from my wide receiver rankings, there were plenty of guys that I felt like could have
Starting point is 00:50:47 been picked above him. He ends up going in the second round. DJ Johnson, way overdrafted to me in the third round. Actually, I like Chandler Zavala and Jamie Robinson a lot, so I think that they rounded out very well. Zavala gets reunited with Iki Ikuonu, so those guys can be
Starting point is 00:51:04 absolute rogue graders if they end up starting on the same side of the offensive line and jamie robinson somebody that i was singing the praises of of a rotational safety type player who can be very versatile for you because of how he approaches the position so you nailed it with bryce young i think that's what matters most jonathan mingo a nice um size speed strength combination of wide receiver who's going to have every chance in the world to crack that starting lineup, make a difference even in year one as a rookie. So if he pans out, obviously this draft class looks a lot better. I know a lot of people are big fans of Mingo Sam Monson here at PFF. I think Adam, I think Adam top seven on the draft show when he
Starting point is 00:51:40 got drafted, he was like, I knew it. He said, I knew I should have had him higher. I knew I should have had him higher. I think Schrager had, I i could be wrong i thought schrager had him in round one of a mock at some point like leading up to the draft i think he did so we knew the nfl i saw that i was like john domingo's going to the top 50 like this is a lock and it ended up happening so i b minus here for the uh for the carolina panthers all right which division we want to do next uh oh last last NFC division, of course. Let's go to the Los Angeles Rams. Okay, I'm not going to read off all the Rams picks because it's a lot, but the ones at the top,
Starting point is 00:52:14 they didn't pick in the first round. Steve Avila, the guard from TCU in the second round. Byron Young from Tennessee in the third round, along with Kobe Turner, your boy from Wake Forest in the third. Stetson Bennett in the fourth round. Nick Hampton in the fifth. Warren McClendon in the fifth from Wake Forest in the third. Stetson Bennett in the fourth round. Nick Hampton in the fifth. Warren McLennan in the fifth. Davis Allen in the fifth.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Puka Nakua in the fifth. And then I did want to mention Travius Hodges Tomlinson, one of their sixth round selections. Oh, Zach Evans, too. I'm going to shout him out. How can I not shout out former number one overall recruit in the country, Zach Evans? But, Connor, what did you think of this one?
Starting point is 00:52:43 No first round pick to judge it by, but what'd you think? The Rams probably slept till like two in the afternoon on Sunday. They haven't had to do this much work in the draft in decades. So they're probably exhausted. I gave this one a rock solid B. Steve Avila, really like him. You got a starter for the long term on the interior offensive line. I love Kobe Turner Turner I think he's
Starting point is 00:53:05 a starter at D tackle I don't know why he wasn't invited to the combine I really like Nick Hampton that was my value pick they got him 161 I had him at 102 so I thought they hit on a couple players there um and I like Jason Taylor the seventh round pick at safety I thought he was one of the better free roaming free safety kind of players on day three in this entire draft and he went at 234 i don't i don't get that i'm glad like zach like zach evans the conversation for us was you can't take zach evans in the top 125 or whatever it was and he goes 215 so it's like that's where you throw darts at running backs with athleticism man there's so many players in this draft trevor holy shit so
Starting point is 00:53:46 like that's why i didn't name them all 12 pigs it's a b they got starters i am not a stetson bennett guy they took him in the fourth round we'll see how that goes um we'll see how that goes old uh the zeroth percentile weight back-to-back national champion back-to-back national champion that decided to get arrested instead of going to the senior bowl uh interesting choice but once again for Stetson Bennett like you couldn't hand pick a better place to be a good pro this is for sure this is great news for Stetson Bennett so his haters like me uh could be raising their fist at the sky in three years yelling so but we'll see we'll see. This is, this is a B plus for me.
Starting point is 00:54:26 No, I give it a B. It's a good draft. You've got, you've got multiple spots where you could have potential starters or at least impact players. Now the Rams roster stinks. So kind of easy to say that,
Starting point is 00:54:36 but Steven Vila, good football player, Byron young, you know, I'm really, you know, I'm pretty high on him. You know,
Starting point is 00:54:41 I'm one of the more bullish people on him. I think he can be a really nice speed rusher for you on the outside I think that he is just kind of hitting the tip of the iceberg of what he could be as an edge rusher he's older but there's a reason why he's older he started football a little bit older at the collegiate level so that's okay Kobe Turner I agree with you he's great he's almost like discount level uh Elijah Cansey in terms of where you can draft these guys and where they ended up going with him going in the third round as opposed to 19 where Cansey wentetson Bennett, it's a fine spot for him. I like Nick Hampton as well. Like Warren McClendon. I think Davis Allen's got great tight end depth for him.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Like Travius Hodges-Thomlinson in the sixth. Like, come on, man. The film on Travius Hodges-Thomlinson is too good for him to be a sixth round pick. Yeah. Okay. He's small. He's just a nickel. He's better than a six round pick. I think you're wrong. Yeah, right. Come on. So B plus for me, really like what I saw from the Rams. San Francisco 49ers.
Starting point is 00:55:33 We got to do it. We got to talk about it. I mean, no first, no first round pick. No second round pick. Jair Brown, the safety from Penn State in the third round. Jake Moody, the kicker from Michigan in the third round. Cam Latu, the tight end from Alabama in the third round. They also got Darrell Luter Jr., the corner from South Alabama in the third round. Jake Moody, the kicker from Michigan in the third round. Cam Latu, the tight end from Alabama in the third round. They also got Darrell Luter Jr., the corner from South Alabama in the fifth.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Robert Beal Jr. in the fifth. Dee Winters in the sixth. Ronnie Bell in the seventh. Jalen Graham in the seventh. Braden Williams in the seventh. What'd you think about the 49ers? I gave this draft a D. This is the lowest grade I have for a draft.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Now to the Niners. Didn't have a first or second round pick. Hard to get a good grade when you're already batting from behind like that. Kyle Shanahan is such a great coach that he coaches through making bad picks all the time. I like that they went up for Jair Brown, even though I thought he was, he's okay.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I think he has some serious angles problems when tackling, and that scares me on the back end, but he makes some big plays, a lot of scrimmage plays with a lot of fire. Never take a kicker in the third round. Do not care who it is. Never take a kicker in the third round. And this was your second pick of the draft.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Hated this pick pick i don't care if jake moody makes it to a pro bowl next year i cannot kick her in the third round you're already starting in the c's when you do that cameron lot to like former d lineman when he got to alabama four-star d line um i thought he had a really good awareness zone he could block on the move i didn't value him at one Oh one. I was a little surprised how early that this was. The Niners just kind of do then their credit. Like they took Brock Purdy last year,
Starting point is 00:57:12 man. Like I valued a lot of different tight ends over him there. Robert Beal. I just didn't think they got any players out of the strap for the most part, like back in roster guys. Sure. But I mean like, and it's hard when you're draft for the most part. Like, back-end roster guys, sure, but I mean, like, and it's hard when you're starting in the third round.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I think Trevor, for me, kicker in the third round has just warped my brain. No, this is a D. There's no question about it. Yeah, yeah. There was good offensive linemen on the board at the kicker spot that I thought could help them. I'm curious if this is the one where Niners fans are like, yeah, we agree.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Like, most fans hate when you give their team a bad draft grade and i get it this draft stunk this draft sucked and doesn't it doesn't apply logic it doesn't apply any logic jair brown got picked in front of jordan battle in front of jamie robinson bad move uh in front of christopher smith i'm gonna see where i had him i think i had him in that junior guys i had him at 106 but i thought jordan battle was a much better player let's see where did i have brown on my rankings that pick is like the only thing that i had him one item 123 okay like item 123 and they picked him 87 that's 50 spots above where I had him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:25 It's, this is my least favorite draft. No question about it. Like I'll raise my hand. I don't think they got a player from this draft besides Brown and a kicker. And like, maybe lots, who's a tight end three.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Yeah. But like tight end, I don't know. Tight end three in the third round. What do you. Good thing. The rest of the roster is great um all right the seattle seahawks um from uh bad to better devon witherspoon jackson in the jig in the first
Starting point is 00:58:54 round derrick hall zach charbonnet in the second round no third round pick but anthony bradford cameron young in the fourth mike morris in the fifth um oliva teamy the center from michigan in the fifth jared greed in the sixth kenny mack and josh in the seventh will Oluwatimi, the center from Michigan, in the fifth. Jarek Reid in the sixth. Kenny McIntosh in the seventh. Will we give it, Connor? Drumroll. This is my A-plus draft. The Seattle Seahawks
Starting point is 00:59:16 fucking crushed this NFL draft. Devin Witherspoon could be the best defensive player to come out of this draft. Jackson Smith and Jigba, I thought thought was far and away the best wide receiver. They got speed to power and Derek Hall. They got my RB three and Zach Charbonnet. Him and Kenneth Walker are a dynamite tandem.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I thought Anthony Bradford is one of the best run blockers in this draft. And if you're looking for a place where a guy with that high end run blocking, but needs a lot of work and pass pro can survive, what they were able to do with the two tackles they took last year from the coaching they have in seattle um and their offensive line coach is andy dickerson like this is a place where i believe in the development of an offensive lineman that has some pass pro question marks but kills it in the run game cameron young phenomenal run defense pick in round four.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Mike Morris, gigantic stand-up edge that can convert speed to power. I think Oluwolewatimi is a starting center in the future. Like, what more do you want from the Seahawks? This is an A-plus. This is an A for me. I didn't give it an A-plus, but I don't know. Could have. I mean, it's a home run.
Starting point is 01:00:24 It's an absolute home run of a draft a a plus whatever you want to call it this draft is amazing witherspoon and jackson's been the jay but two incredible playmakers on both sides of the ball that what this what the seahawks have done over the last two off seasons to truly slingshot a rebuild it at the speed of something that i can't remember have you you were trading and moving on from your franchise quarterback that it felt like your entire team was built around. And they needed to get a king's ransom for it to be worth it for them to move on from Russell Wilson,
Starting point is 01:00:55 given the success that he has been and the identity that he has been for them over all the years. They took that ransom and have absolutely just, I use the word slingshot because it is, slingshotted their way back into relevancy. Hitting on Geno Smith obviously was a huge part of the puzzle, but what they have done around Geno Smith with the draft they had last year and the draft that they had this year, well done.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Well done, Seahawks. Cardinals last team in this division. Round one, Parrish Johnson Jr. at number six B.J. Ozilary in the second round Garrett Williams the corner from Syracuse and Michael Wilson the wide receiver from Stanford in the third John Gaines the interior offensive line for UCLA in the fourth Clayton Toon in the fifth Owen Papo noted linebacker fullback in the fifth Keetrell Clark the slot corner in the sixth Dante Stills in the sixth. Connor, can I start with this one?
Starting point is 01:01:48 Please, my friend. This is an A+. I get it. I freaking get it. This is one of my A-pluses that I have. Not only did I absolutely love almost every single player that they chose. Paris Johnson Jr. is a starter. B.J. Ojalary is a starter.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Garrett Williams, if he's healthy, he's going to be a starter. Michael Wilson is a starter. John Gaines can be a really nice swing interior offensive lineman for you. He can play multiple different spots. Clayton Toon, okay, he's probably just a backup in the NFL. Whatever. It's a quarterback. You're taking it in the fifth. Owen Papo, very least fantastic special teams player
Starting point is 01:02:20 and a great depth linebacker for you. Keetrell Clark could be a starting nickel in this league. Dante Stills is a really great interior defensive lineman. And to top it all off, they moved from three to 12 to six, picked the player at number six that they would have taken at number three. And instead they got him three spots later and added a first rounder next year. That's going to be a top five pick and a third rounder next year Monty Osenfort master freaking class man this is an A plus for me I feel like Monty Osenfort is how
Starting point is 01:02:54 if somebody let you and I be co-gims of a team like we would nap like we would just pick up the phone all the time and be like yeah I'll move back I'll move back multiple times and jump around the board then come back up and just like have a ball with the draft and i thought that was really cool to see arizona now has two first rounders next year a second round pick three third rounders a fourth rounder two fifth rounders and a seventh round pick they are armed and ready to go and in this draft i mean this was the connor and trevor my guys draft they took ojalary and michael wilson they were like oh stock exchange the official draft of the nfl stock exchange
Starting point is 01:03:31 done it was awesome i garrett williams is severely underrated because he got hurt and then he wasn't because he went in the third round so good for him yep um i like john gains i really like john gains i do too. Clayton Toon, if you're going to take a fifth round backup swing, him, the value pick for me was Owen Papo. I had him 103. They got him 168. The freak.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I mean, Dante Stills in the sixth round. Keetrell Clark. Is that a player we didn't like in this entire draft? While loading up the farm on draft capital. Arizona did a great job. This was an A for me. No doubt. Yep. Yep. Let's switch over to the AFC. loading up the farm on draft capital arizona did a great job this was an a for me no doubt yep yep let's switch over to the afc we'll start with the afcs and the buffalo bills first round they got dalton kincaid second round osiris torrence third round dorian williams nothing
Starting point is 01:04:15 in the fourth round fifth round justin shorter the wide receiver from florida the seventh round they got nick broker the offensive lineman from mississippi and then alex awesome the corner from oregon state what grade we give giving the Buffalo Bills, Connor? A B. The AFC East just decided to be like the steady Eddie of the draft. Nobody really got over their skis or did anything too crazy, and I think that's fine when you look at the state of the rosters in this division. So I give the Bills a B.
Starting point is 01:04:39 If Torrance is locked in, that's a great pick at 59. I'd put him to them in the first round before. Kincaid, if he's healthy, is just going to be such a mismatched big slot for them. I love Dorian Williams' ability and coverage that I had no problem with that pick in the third round. I don't know if they got anything after that, but that's kind of how the NFL draft typically goes. I thought Alex Austin was an interesting outside corner when I watched him, but the Bills, their state of their roster, they just needed to plug some holes. And I do have significant questions about Spencer Brown at right tackle for the long-term future,
Starting point is 01:05:10 which probably hurt this grade a little bit, but a rock solid B for Buffalo. I gave it a B plus really like Kincaid. I like the potential of him and Dawson Knox. Now it's a little bit redundant. Are they going to be able to get those guys on the field at the same time to be able to play in those multi-tight end stats, right? I think the thought process is you want to get into 12 personnel more.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Buffalo Bills played in 12 personnel the least in the NFL last season. Only 8% of their offensive snaps had multiple tight ends. And I think that's probably because of their depth chart. So clearly they're wanting to prioritize getting that a little bit more. But Seth Galena had a really great point. His Buffalo is building this offense with a lot of one-on-one players stephon diggs can win one-on-one darlin kincaid can now win one-on-one um gabe davis deep down the field they're hoping to win one out of the back right james can be it can be a it can be a uh win one-on-one guy when he's a
Starting point is 01:05:58 pass catcher josh allen himself is a one-on-one guy so building a lot of one-on-one stuff osiris torrence i like the fact that he's more of a power player for them can give them that profile. Look, we heard that the bills were in on Jack Campbell at linebacker. You don't get Jack Campbell because he goes a lot higher in the first round than they probably thought he was going to. But then in round three, you get one of the only other true off ball linebackers that we have in this class and Dorian Williams. And so I think that that's really good navigation of how the draft went. They hit some good needs. They improve their team. I think they're a little bit more well-rounded.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And of course, this is a roster that's already in a winning window. They just need a little bit more to try to get them over the top to get that Superbowl that they're searching for. So I gave this one a B plus for the Buffalo Bills. Miami Dolphins forfeited their first round pick. Second round, they went with cornerback Cam Smith. Third round, they went with cornerback, Cam Smith, a third round. They went Devon,
Starting point is 01:06:46 a chain. It felt like just one of the easiest, I mean, prospect team combinations that was out there. No for their fifth round pick, but Elijah Higgins, the widest year from Stanford in the sixth. And then Ryan Hayes,
Starting point is 01:06:58 the offensive tackle for Michigan in the seven. So only four picks here. What'd you think of it, Connor? Another B I like with the Dolphins. And that's impressive considering they didn't have a first rounder and they only had four picks here. What'd you think of it, Connor? Another B. I like where the Dolphins were. And that's impressive considering they didn't have a first rounder and they only had four picks total.
Starting point is 01:07:08 To get a B is wildly impressive. I thought Cam Smith could have been a first rounder in this draft. That's probably why I gave them a B. A chain tailor-made for the offense. The value here, Trevor, is Elijah Higgins. I had Elijah Higgins at 146.
Starting point is 01:07:20 They had him at 197. I do not think he's a wide receiver. I think he's a converted wide receiver to tight end at the next level that Miami can get very creative with. So Miami got to be limited picks, but they got players and they got players that really, really fit what they want to do. And I'm very high on Cam Smith. I know the rest of the world really isn't, but I like him a lot. I'm also giving this one a B. The Cam Smith pick is very interesting, right? Because you trade for Jalen Ramsey. You already have Zayven Howard, Byron Jones, not on this team anymore, but you
Starting point is 01:07:53 got Cater Coe who played fantastic in the nickel as an undrafted free agent last year. So in theory, you had your three corners already, but Seth Galena again, made this point when we were talking on the PFF draft show, and I loved it. If you draft Cam Smith, you give yourself the ability to have five starters at defensive back with the safeties included, with Jones and Javon Holland. If you plug Cam Smith in opposite Zayvon Howard and then Kader Kohu in the middle, you allow yourself to play Jalen Ramsey however you want every week. If Jalen Ramsey is better used as an outside receiver one week, as a slot corner the next week, as a safety even the week after.
Starting point is 01:08:40 You give yourself the ultimate ability to use one of the best defensive backs in the NFL, however it is most advantageous to you every single week. So I really love that thought process. And I hadn't even thought about it, even though I like Cam Smith. But Cam Smith, Devon A. Chain, I think those are two perfect players right there. They clearly think their offensive line is okay. They don't really take an offensive line that they think is going to have a heavy impact. So I wonder if that's going to come back to bite them.
Starting point is 01:09:05 But I like the thought process, especially if that's to free up Jalen Ramsey. So I also gave them a B there. Let's talk about the New York Jets. Jets got Will McDonald, the pick number 15, the edge rusher out of Iowa State. In the second round, they went Joe Titman, the center out of Wisconsin. No third round pick. Carter Warren, the offensive tackle from Pittsburgh in the fourth. Your boy, Israel Mekonda, the halfback from Pittsburgh in the fifth round, uh, Zaire Barnes, the linebacker from
Starting point is 01:09:29 Western Michigan in the sixth, um, Bernard Converse, Jared Bernard Converse, the cornerback from LSU in the sixth round as well. And then Zach Coons, they won the Zach Coons sweepstakes of probably the greatest combine performance of all time. If none of you have seen it, go over to mock draftable.com type, type in Zach Kuntz's name, and see one of the most well-filled out spider graphs you're ever going to see in your scouting career. So, Connor, what did you think of the Jets pick? What are you giving the grade here?
Starting point is 01:09:53 Another steady Eddie from this division. I gave them a B-. I think there's a lot of disappointment. They weren't able to get Broderick Jones when the Steelers jumped in front of them. But overall, I really liked Will McDonald. I had him as a top 30 player in this draft, and I think he fits perfectly for Robert Sala.
Starting point is 01:10:08 You hear Robert Sala call him and say, we're getting you out of the 4-I and into the wide nine. And when you watch what Will McDonald does well, you're like, oh, that's going to help him a lot. Joe Tippman, starting center. Carter Warren, probably long-term swing tackle. If he didn't get hurt this year, you have to wonder where his draft stock would be. Where they made up a lot of ground for me was getting a Bannacanda in round five. Pick
Starting point is 01:10:29 143. I had a Bannacanda at number 70 overall in this draft. That outside zone run scheme that Brees Hall, and I know it's a different offensive coordinator, but the offensive philosophies will not be that different. Brees Hall, you're going to kind of limit his workload out of the gate. Now you get the home run hitting threat with the Bannac Canada. So for the Jets here, it was just a solid draft where they're looking at their roster and going, we just need to be able to survive injuries because we couldn't last year. What'd we do? We went out and got Aaron Rogers. We have the reigning offensive rookie of the year, the reigning defensive rookie of the year. We like our defense. We have a lot of different bodies on the offensive line, but they've been injured. So we need to make sure that we have now depth behind all of them joe tipman and carter warren aren't necessarily
Starting point is 01:11:09 even projected to play right away i think joe tipman will win out the center job but abana candle was the value selection and then the jets just play ras dartboard in the on day three like they just take guys that are all above a nine with relative athletic scores and they took coons who was a 10 uh and you just kind of hope you hit on those. But once again, day three darts. So B minus for the jets.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Okay. I've, I've got to give this one a C man. Okay. And I, I, the reason why I'm giving it a C is because you and I talked about this after round one,
Starting point is 01:11:39 I'm worried about offensive tackle. Yeah. I think that's fair. You make the trade for Aaron Rodgers. It's not even that I don't necessarily like the players. I think they picked Will McDonald higher than I have him on my board. Same thing with Joe Tippman. I think the guys that were a little bit later in the draft,
Starting point is 01:11:55 I think they were appropriate to where I had them ranked. Those are totally fine. But you're overdrafting the top two guys a little bit higher than where I had them. Not that that makes them bad football players. Just a little bit of a reach compared to my board. I wasn't the biggest Joe Tippman fan. Can understand other people who really like him in his size profile to be a versatile interior offensive lineman for him.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I like JMS better. I was a little surprised by that. Yeah. They wanted the athleticism. And like you said, he could be their starting center, so it could all work out for him. Will McDonald, he's kind of playing maybe that same situation that Bryce Huff played in, who was awesome. But I don't think the redundancy really matters there because you just need good
Starting point is 01:12:29 pass rushers and i think will mcdonald's going to be a good one but when i look at their offensive tackles you and i have talked about it right it's it's duane brown it's mckay beckton if either of those guys get hurt at any point through a 17 game regular season scary it's better be ready to go and i like max mitchell but i'm still even it's the the part that really the part that really bugs me about it is they had pick 13 and they needed swapping was done they they needed to do what they needed to do to get Aaron Rogers done before the draft. But I think Brian Goodenkoos also knew that because I don't think Goody was really worried about Van Ness being off the board by 15 versus 13 straight. Well, unless New England really
Starting point is 01:13:17 liked him, but yeah, which may be, but cause they did pick Keon White. So maybe that could have been the case, but ultimately I look at the jets giving up that pick of 13 to 15 and then not staying aggressive to get jumped by Pittsburgh. Maybe they didn't have a chance because new England's in the same division. Maybe they weren't going to trade with them. It just sucks. It re like, it was hard for me to watch them watch Broderick Jones get picked one ahead of them,
Starting point is 01:13:45 knowing now what their offensive tackle room is. So I gave him a C. Not that the players are necessarily bad, but the way that they went about the draft, it was tough. It makes you wonder if ABT will have to play tackle again at some point this year because now you have Tippman at center and you can kick McGovern to guard. But we'll see with the Jets. The Patriots.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Yeah, go ahead. Okay, so for the Patriots, i also gave them a b minus um and i think it's it's funny to me with new england because if you just asked me after the first two days i was like man new england's really on it like gonzalez was an a-plus pick i like keon white in round two a little early for marty mapu as much as we loved his rise but I love their first three picks in this draft. Man. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I didn't mean to cut you off. Kicker in round four. I can't. It just drives me insane. What was up with Kicker this year, man? Drives me insane. Kickers and punters. What are we doing?
Starting point is 01:14:41 The Jake Andrews pick, man. Like, I had Jake Andrews at player 292. I thought he was one of the rougher interior offensive linemen I watched in this draft. So I gave him a B minus because I think they got impact with the first two picks. And then they kind of went full New England and just were all over the place after that. Yeah, New England's often a team that I think drafts very
Starting point is 01:15:01 opposite to my board, really. I gave him a C+. You know, you're hitting Christian Gonzalez at 17. It's fantastic value. What a gift that was. Keyon White feels like a Patriots type of versatile defensive lineman. So I think that that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Like you said, Mapu's a little bit early. Andrew's a little bit early. They take a kicker, which is way too early. Sidiso was fine where they picked him. I actually like Antonio Mafi. so that one's a good one. Keishon Butte, they take a chance on him, but he's a sixth rounder, so it's fine. They then draft a punter. It's like, okay, I guess, man.
Starting point is 01:15:32 But I gave it a C-plus. Wasn't one of my favorite drafts. All right, moving to the AFC North, the Cincinnati Bengals, who stuck to the board, made some key picks to help out their defense early on. They got Miles Murphy from Clemson, DJ Turner from Michigan, Jordan Battle from Alabama, Charlie Jones from Purdue, Chase Brown from Illinois, Andre Yosefos, the wide receiver from Princeton, Brad Robbins,
Starting point is 01:15:55 punter alert from Michigan, DJ Ivy from Miami. Trevor, how did you view this one? I think this is an A-minus, man. I like this Bengals draft a good deal. Miles Murphy, I think, is a perfect player for them on an already established defensive line. one i think he's an a minus man i like this bengals draft a good deal miles murphy i think is a perfect player for them on an already established defensive line got bigger guys on the edges that he can work with and doesn't need to be this player that needs to come in as a polished pass rusher right away instead he could be a really good athletic big body to help out
Starting point is 01:16:18 their depth as they're making playoff runs dj turner somebody who i think could step in right away as they've had changes along their secondary. I know they've got some guys that could certainly play all those spots now with Cam Taylor Britt, Mike Hilton, and Chidovia Woosier manning those spots. But DJ Turner is just another guy that you could put into it. I also love their third and fourth round picks. Jordan Battle, very solid, smart player. If you need reps from him early, you can get them because he's not going to get overwhelmed. Charlie Jones, what you see is what you get. Good route runner, technician, somebody who can win off the line scrimmage at
Starting point is 01:16:47 the nfl level chase brown another top five back that i had in this class who i think could really take over if they end up moving on from joe mix and this is somebody who i think take a lot of that carry load for them andre joseph is a stud uh special teams player at the very worst for you so loved this draft for where the Bengals are right now and their winning window gave them an A-. I did too. I agree with everything you said. I gave them an A-.
Starting point is 01:17:10 The value pick for me was Andre Yosefis, developmental vertical threat. They got at 206. I had him at 143. They did a really good job getting starters, impact starters for the defense with those other picks early on. I think Miles Murphy will help out with the run right away there and
Starting point is 01:17:26 develop his pass rush. Jordan battle was an underrated player in this draft bangles that a really, really nice job here at a minus. And that takes me to another team in this division that just went to war in the draft. And that's the Pittsburgh Steelers here. I know we've already have had big thoughts on them,
Starting point is 01:17:41 but where'd you end up when all was said and done a plus dude, how could it not be an a plus you make the mini jump to go up and get broderick jones that's the position that you should have prioritized there in the first round when you saw that the corners were falling a little bit you knew that you could get one at the beginning of the second round so broderick jones that little jump up perfect for him you get joey porter jr keanu benton darnell washington Herbig. This draft was so good, man. You don't even pick in the fifth and sixth rounds. And then your seventh round pick, you get Corey Trice,
Starting point is 01:18:10 who had the talent to be a third or fourth round pick, and you get him in the seventh round, I assume because of medicals. We are looking at starters or major contributors left and right for this team. Them getting Darnell Washington at 93, stupid. Stupid. Even if you think that like, okay, well, maybe he's just the kind of role player he was at Georgia.
Starting point is 01:18:30 That's worth way more than 93 if it's at the NFL level. So, I don't know. I love this draft. You got playmakers everywhere. Keanu Benton on this defensive line is absolutely perfect. I think Joey Porter Jr. can be an instant starter on the outside,
Starting point is 01:18:45 even though he's going to take his lumps a little bit at the NFL level. He gives you that ability. Nick Herbig is such a good football player. He could be a little bit of an edge rusher for you, probably an off-ball guy, but that's totally fine. And then Trice, like I said, I think he's got mid-round talent, man. I think this guy could have been a third rounder. He's got that size, speed combination that not a lot of cornerbacks have.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Brilliant bet to take, even if the medicals aren't what you love in the seventh round. You got starters and contributors all over the place. A plus for the Steelers for me. Love their draft. If I had a second A plus or did one for each conference, this would be an A plus. I gave it an A. It's really an A plus. It was my second favorite draft. Darnell Washington, I had at number 17 overall.
Starting point is 01:19:23 They got him at 93. The Steelers got back to the roots and said, we want to be a team that lines up and punches everybody in the face. And that was replicated on pick after pick after pick from rounds one through four. And I'm with you on Corey Trice. What a steal he could be staying in the division and looking at the Baltimore Ravens odd draft for the Ravens that they only made ultimately six picks, not the traditional Baltimore way. Trevor, I give this a C plus. I like Trenton Simpson. They got him at 86. I had him at 34. I didn't value Zay Flowers the way they did. I think he's
Starting point is 01:19:58 a nice number two or number three. He was wide receiver five for me. me the picks fine I didn't really like anything after that to be honest with you maybe Andrew Voorhees comes back healthy but I I valued him as a day three guy even before the injury I usually love how the Ravens draft this one didn't really do it for me besides Trenton Simpson with the speed in the middle of the field and kind of like their linebacker play as is right now so I'm curious what kind of role they have for him but definitely the weakest one in the division for me. I gave the Ravens a C plus. Oh man. Okay. I'm a B for the Ravens.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I like the Ravens, all things considered. They stuck at 22 and I thought they were going to move back, but loves a flowers in this offense. I really do. I think it's a great offense for him to, well, I mean, Greg Roman's gone. So we don't know exactly what it's going to look like, but with the receivers they already have, I think he fits in very well. So I think he's going to be a major playmaker for him. Trenton Simpson, didn't love him in the first or second round,
Starting point is 01:20:48 but them getting him in the third, I do like the athleticism there, the versatility there for him. Even if he's just a see ball, get ball kind of a linebacker, he's got that speed to be that kind of player for you. I think they're moving on from Patrick Queen at some point. Trenton Simpson is going to take over there. So I like the depth with Kai Blue Kelly at corner.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And then I think Andrew Voorhees can be a future starter for them. I really do. I was higher on Voorhees than a lot of people. He's a powerful interior offensive lineman who, when he comes back healthy, I think he's that kind of Raven's mold of an interior offensive lineman who could step in and start for him if he needs to or if the contracts get to that point in time.
Starting point is 01:21:21 So I gave this one a B, man. Outside of them not being able to move back from 22, I liked what I saw from Baltimore. Cleveland Browns, I give this one a B+. Yeah, you better because it's all your guys. It is a lot of my guys. If you showed me the collection of players they got and then told me they didn't pick until the third round,
Starting point is 01:21:43 my jaw would hit the floor. Cedric Tillman at 74 siaki ika at 98 dewan jones at 111 isaiah mcguire the edge from missouri at 126 dorian thompson robinson five-year starter quarterback for ucla at 140 cameron mitchell cornerback from northwestern luke whipler falling to 190 i don't have a single reason for that. I had him six. It's got to be medical. Overall has to be medical related. I know the Browns did a great job.
Starting point is 01:22:10 I think Tillman is their future. Number two, wide receiver. They'll see if they can get ECA dialed back in to help out with the run defense. He had a down year after a really good 2021. DeJuan Jones has his concerns, but in round four,
Starting point is 01:22:21 who the hell cares? Just take them anyway. I liked Isaiah McGuire and I think DTR is the perfect backup for Deshaun Watson. So the Browns got a B plus. Considering what they're working with, I am wildly impressed with their board. Yeah, it's hard to criticize this draft too much. I also have a B plus for the Cleveland Browns. Them not picking in the first or second round,
Starting point is 01:22:40 they get a really nice wide receiver, and the type of wide receiver I think they need in Cedric Tillman i felt like we were giving cedric tillman or michael wilson uh when we were doing these longer three-round mocks so i like that siaki ika look i'm worried about i'm just like i worry i'm worried about dewan jones those are two picks that are totally up in the air that you're taking a chance on in the trenches but they're trying to they're trying to kind of hit home runs in that area right it's already a really good roster in Cleveland. And if you, if you get, if you get the 2021 version of Siaki Ika in the third round at pick 98, you're going to be pumped about that. He's going to be a difference maker, at least in a defensive tackle rotation for you. McGuire's going to help him out
Starting point is 01:23:21 too. DTR is a great backup quarterback in that spot. Cam Mitchell was one of my favorite corners in this draft. I think it had him right around the top 10 in these corners. He was deep corner class, so people might be like, okay, he didn't love that much. No, no, no. I mean, he's a deep corner class. Love the movement skills, love the fluidity, the change of direction, and he's reunited
Starting point is 01:23:40 with one of his best friends from college. Him and Greg Newsome were boys, not just because they played on the same team, but I that they were really good friends so i think that's a cool uh story as well keep them in off coverage and i think that that he'll definitely reward you and man luke whipler very very smart interior offensive lineman guy who's making the call outs at the line scrimmage knows how to adjust the protections knows where rushes are coming from can anticipate really well didn't love him as an athlete but no way he should have gone in the seventh round. It must've been something medical with him.
Starting point is 01:24:07 So honestly, it's kind of a lot of big swings at the fence. Yeah, it is. But if it pays out, man, if it pays off, it's going to be a hell of a draft for him. AFC South, start with the Indianapolis Colts. What'd you think of this group? All right, hold on. Switching the tab over.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I can read them off real quick. You got it? Okay, run away. I of this group? All right. Hold on. Switching the tab over. I can read them off real quick. You got it? Okay. Run away. I got it. I got it. Anthony Richardson at number four overall.
Starting point is 01:24:33 We got Julius Brents in the second round. Josh Downs in the third. Blake Freeland in the fourth. The offense attack from BYU. Added to Miwa Adebuare, the versatile defensive line for Northwestern in the fourth as well. Darius Rush in the fifth. Daniel Scott in the fifth. Will Mallory in the fifth. Evan Hall in the fifth. Will Mallory in the fifth.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Evan Hall in the fifth. You go a little bit further down, we got Jalen Jones, the corner from Texas A&M. Then Jake Witt, the offensive tackle as well. This is one of my favorite drafts. I'm giving this one an A-. I had the long sigh there because I was like, should I just give it an A?
Starting point is 01:25:04 But I'm going to give it an A-. And the only reason I'm giving it an A- is because it's a Blake Freeland at 106. And I don't know if Blake Freeland's even going to make it in the NFL. And that's rich for me of a player who I'm not so sure is going to make it. They're taking a chance on an athlete, but it's so hard to find a flaw throughout the rest of this draft. You and I have talked about it. If you're going to take a swing at the bat on the traits of the quarterback position, do so with Anthony Richardson. He's the highest ceiling that you could possibly get. He's the swing of the bat that you want. Love him with Shane Steichen after what Steichen was able
Starting point is 01:25:36 to do with Jalen Hurts and how he's able to watch Jalen Hurts improve so much as a passer as well. Julius Brents could be a future starter on the outside corner for them. So could Darius Rush. Daniel Scott could be a rotational safety. Josh Downs, I think, is going to contribute right away. I think he could win that starting slot job this year in camp. I think it's a great spot for him. Adetemi Wadabwari is going to play all over the defensive line.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Evan Hall is a great special teamer. Will Mallory is a nice vertical stretching stretching wide receiver a move tight end so this one gets an a minus for me almost gave it an a i just like player and put it in love that one this draft was an a for me i'm impressed with what the colts were able to do in terms of the depth they got all they got all of the players you mentioned, and then they got Emile Ekior as a UDFA. Oh, did they? I thought was a third or fourth round offensive lineman.
Starting point is 01:26:31 So they just really knocked it out of the park. I'm excited about the Richardson pick. I'm with you that they might have got two starting outside corners. Adebuare in the fourth round is insane. I like Jalen Jones in the seventh round. He's long.
Starting point is 01:26:47 He's a former big-time recruit that he was solid for A&M. He wasn't a bad player. He just never emerged into a great ball-hawking player. So for the Colts here, this was an A draft, a massive roster turnover with a potential franchise quarterback at the top. They absolutely crushed this, and they kept that momentum going throughout the UDFA process moving over to the Houston Texans who also hope they drafted their franchise quarterback as well
Starting point is 01:27:12 the Texans had the biggest headlines of night one there's no denying that they get CJ Stroud and then take Will Anderson after moving up so back to Juice Scruggs, center from Penn State. Tank Dell stays in Houston. Dylan Horton, pass rusher from TCU. Henry Tua Tua was my value pick for them. I had him 86. They got him at 167. Jarrett Patterson, center from Notre Dame. Xavier Hutchinson, wide receiver from Iowa State. Brandon Hill, safety from Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Trevor, what'd you think of Houston? I gave him a B minus. I'm very curious to where you landed with the houston texans because if you just look at the names and the players especially at the very top cj shroud will anderson tank dell henry toto jared patterson xavier hutchinson some nice players man i think there's some players that can really round out this roster well where you lose me is how they acquired will henderson it's they they paid a quarterback's price for teams that were maybe trying to go up and get anthony richardson above the colts and they took an edge rusher who i like but probably cost you not only the first round
Starting point is 01:28:19 pick that that he was selected with in this year's, but what is going to likely be a top five pick in next year's draft and a third round pick in next year's draft. That's tough. Like you, to me, that is, that is, that is basically quarterback price for a guy who does not play the
Starting point is 01:28:38 quarterback position. And not only that, for as much as I like Will Anderson, he's not Nick Bosa. He's not Miles Garrett. He's not Von Miller. He's not that kind of an edge rush player. And the price was too high for me.
Starting point is 01:28:55 They're going all in right now on this draft. They are trying to really jumpstart that rebuild. I like the players that they have, but I cannot give this anything higher than a B-. I almost gave it something in the Cs, but then I felt bad because they did acquire talent. They got guys in the building that are going to be starters for them, but how they went about it, can't give it anything higher than a B-.
Starting point is 01:29:20 So I give this a B. I agree with you about the price point for Will Anderson. That was a lot to pay. It really, really was. I thought Juice Scruggs went way earlier than I thought. Way too early, yeah. Way too early. I wasn't very high on Dylan Horton. Henry Tua Tua I think will be a starter.
Starting point is 01:29:38 That was a sneaky good pick. What this pick will come down to is if Stroud and Anderson are stars. If Stroud could be a top 12. They have to be. And they have to be with the urgency that the Texans operated with. When you look at the group of players, most times you think this is at least a B-plus or an A-minus, but the price points they paid knocks it down to a B.
Starting point is 01:30:00 The Texans took their swing and made their bet, and it's going to be really fascinating to see how it ultimately plays out. Not just this year, but when they, all the assets they gave up, you know, I know they have assets from the Watson trade, but still,
Starting point is 01:30:15 it was a big price to pay. This is just a B when you look at the players and you'd expect more Jacksonville Jaguars, Anton Harrison, back end of the first round traded back a little bit, still got their starting offense tackle. At least we um as cam robinson's gonna have a little bit of a suspension there brenton strange the tight end for penn state going in the second round tank bigsby in the third ventura miller the fourth ty lacy uh in the fourth as well you
Starting point is 01:30:36 see abdullah in the fifth antonio johnson from texas a&m in the fifth anything that was happening parker washington the wide receiver penn state in the six a handful of other players as we rounded out a lengthy jaguars draft there at the back end of day three what'd you think what grade you give him connor c plus jacksonville a little all over the place sure they took harrison earlier than i would have but i still like harrison as a player at a premium position that wasn't really the pick that got me hung up brenton Strange at 61. I thought I liked him a lot at the end of round three. And he goes in round two. Tank Bigsby. They wanted a leg drive contact balance running back.
Starting point is 01:31:11 They take him in the third round. I don't understand Ventro Miller in the fourth. I like Yasir Abdullah a lot. And Antonio Johnson back to back. I thought those were really good defensive picks. Abdullah kind of this unique piece at linebacker that can rush the passer a little bit for an undersized guy antonio johnson one of the bigger falls i just look at the jaguars draft and for all the picks they had i don't really know how much impact they actually got where i yeah i would have rather packaged some of these day three picks and try to get more impact players so
Starting point is 01:31:38 it feels like they just want to become a tougher team with all of these picks and i don't know if you had to do that like 14 times in a row. I didn't, I honestly, Trevor, I did not love this draft, but I can't say I hated it. Cause I get the Harrison pick at the top.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Yeah. I gave it a B minus, but I really, I didn't love this draft Harrison. I think it's going to be a starting offensive tackle for them. So I, I, I have to wait that pretty heavily.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Cause you're hitting on a guy who I think is going to be a long-term starter for you in offensive tackle. Didn't like the strange pick. Thought that one was overdraft and they didn't really need him, although it felt like a bulky pick, honestly. Tank Bigsby becomes our RB2 right away for them, which I like. Ventro Miller, love him. Special teamer, though. Tyra Lacy, again, like high motor player.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Not sure how much of a high impact he's going to have. Abdullah, I like. Antonio Johnson, certainly. No ideaio johnson lasted until the fifth like to me at very worst there's got to be something there yeah i i don't know how he lasted there but talent was great you know i love parker washington just didn't have a lot of i agree outside of harrison not a kind of heavy impact here from the jags after this entire weekend so i give it a b minus because you are hitting on a really important position with Harrison, a player that I like, but that was my grade there.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Tennessee Titans, Peter Skowronski at 11. Will Levis at 33 in the second round. Tajay Spears in the third round. Nothing in the fourth round. Josh Wiley, the tight end from Cincinnati in the fifth round. Jalen Duncan in the sixth. Colton Dowell in the seventh. What do we think, Connor?
Starting point is 01:33:03 Rock solid B for the Titans. I think they got one of the most high floor players in the draft in Skowronski and their offensive line needed a lot of help. So I liked that pick at 11. Will Levis at 33. That's closer to where I valued him. Take the swing. See what you get out of Levis. I like Tajay Spears as a compliment to Derrick Henry. He's really good in space. He can make people miss. He's a good pass catcher, good vision, patience. After that, Josh Wiley, okay. Jalen Duncan was good value. I saw Duncan as maybe a long-term swing tackle. I had him at 152. They got him at 186. Rand Carthen didn't need to operate with a wild amount of urgency in this draft. Even if they miss on Levis, he'll still get another shot at a different quarterback in the future,
Starting point is 01:33:46 I think. So I thought the Titans, this was a rock-solid draft where they just try to get back to being that contender. I know they're doing a lot of rebuilding, but it felt like plenty of picks here that will help them right away. Would you give it? What was it, Gray? A B. Man, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:34:01 give it an A-. Oh, wow. Okay. Where did you have Levis? To like 12 minus. Oh, wow. Okay. I mean, where did you have Levis? To like 12 overall. Oh, there you go. Yeah. So I mean like Levis, I think is a future starter at the NFL level. I like Will Levis. Peter Skowronski is a top five player in this class. They got him at 11. Love that. Tajay Spears is somebody who I really liked in this, in this running back class as well. So like player wise, they hit it it on those first three guys and then you don't even pick in the fourth round
Starting point is 01:34:28 fifth round and beyond i like that they're taking a chance on jalen duncan his athleticism in the sixth um josh wiley fine he's just a depth tight end but for what the titans had to do get your potential starting quarterback your your potential starting full-time offensive tackle, leads to damn good offensive lineman, however you slice it. I gave him an A minus. I liked this draft a lot. I really did.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I think Skowronski will be a great player for them. I'm fat. And I love the plan for Levis behind Tannehill on the expiring deal. Right, right. Okay, last division here. The AFC West. I'll start with the Denver Broncos,
Starting point is 01:35:06 who did not have a first-round pick. I gave the Broncos a B-. I thought, considering they didn't have a first-round pick, I like Marvin Mims, although they have a crowded wide receiver room. I think Riley Moss went closely to where I valued him. Same with Drew Sanders as well. They really didn't do anything too wildly off the board.
Starting point is 01:35:27 JL Skinner at 183 had good value for me. I had him at 113. This was one of those drafts that just felt like a depth-related draft. Maybe a wide receiver three. A linebacker that can rush the passer. A depth corner that can maybe develop as a starter for you on the outside. And Riley Moss. They didn't have a lot of picks. So it was just hard for them to exceed that B minus grade,
Starting point is 01:35:48 but I had no problem with the selections they took. Yeah. It was a B minus for me too. I was deciding, do I give them a C? Do I give them a B, but it was hard for me to get into the C realm knowing that it doesn't have a first round pick. And I still, I like Marvin Mims. I like Drew Sanders. I like Riley Moss. And if that's the case, the case like okay then you pretty much like their draft because then they're not picking obviously in the fourth round of the fifth round either jail skinner i didn't love but he's a sixth round pick if you were picked if if jail skinner was going in the third
Starting point is 01:36:16 round where sometimes you don't like it projected right i wouldn't like it at all but just because i i don't want to you can't keep that attitude of oh i've watched him be overdrafted in mock drafts when he's actually picked in the sixth round that's totally fine so i gave this one a b minus uh not sure how that wide receiver room is going to shake out now maybe it's a little confused with that i also don't know how they're going to use drew sanders is he going to be a rotational guy behind baron browning behind randy gregory behind nick benito like he's going to be within that group or is he going to be more of an off-ball guy with Alex Singleton and Josie Jewell?
Starting point is 01:36:48 Not sure. We'll see. Riley Moss, I just think he's a good football player, even though your arm, like, kind of scares me. You got to play him in off-coverage. Can't play him at the line scrimmage, but B-minus for me. Kansas City Chiefs. Let's hit them next.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Felix Andrique-Ozama at the back end of the first round. Rasheed Rice in the second one. Yamoris in the third. Chamari Conner in the fourth. B.J. Thompson in the fifth. Keiondre Coburn, defensive line from Texas, in the sixth. Nick Jones, the feisty corner from Ball State, in the seventh. What do we think about this one, Conner? I give this a C+. And I feel like I've given the Chiefs A after A over the years. And eventually, they're not dealing with an overwhelming amount of capital. This was a little early for Felix, but fine.
Starting point is 01:37:28 They need a pass rusher. And Will McDonald was gone. I would have taken Ojolari, but it is what it is. I like where She-Rice is fit with them. Like hang time, jump ball, work back to the quarterback when the play breaks down. There was a lot of good wide receivers on the board here, Trevor, that this one surprised me a little bit uh wanya morris some depth at tackle bj thompson was one of my favorite project edge rushers with his athleticism and length but for the chiefs overall those first two picks are what
Starting point is 01:37:58 defined it and those guys were not rated as my top player in those position groups at all in those spots what did you give him a c plus is that what i hear plus that's what i i have the same grade for him i like felix um might not matter because they're patrick holmes i think he's well of course i think felix is going to be good for him rishi rice you and i have talked about this before i think he's got to totally retool who he is as a wide receiver he's going to succeed at the next level so um that's got to happen before he even becomes anywhere near the conversation at that second round value morris is okay but his discipline his hand usage i think that that's that it's all he's got a ways to go he does he does he does and then some of the guys i like keonji coburn actually in
Starting point is 01:38:39 the sixth and nick jones in the seventh but how high of an impact are those guys going to have couldn't really outweigh what the rest of their draft was for me. I agree. Thompson's a nice like kind of edge rusher that you develop. You don't have to start right away and that's fine for them and their defensive line, I suppose, especially after drafting Felix. But C plus, I just didn't. I just didn't love it.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Raiders. That's the next team I want to hit. Tyree Wilson at number seven. The edge rusher from Texas Tech. Michael Mayer in the second round. Tied in from Notre Dame. Byron Young, defensive lineman from Alabama in the third. Trey Tucker, the wide receiver from Cincinnati over Tyler Scott.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Didn't see that one coming. Ja'Cory Bennett, the corner from Maryland in the fourth. Aiden O'Connell, Purdue quarterback in the fourth as well. Chris Smith, the safety from Georgia in the fifth. Marty Burney, the linebacker from Florida in the fourth, Aiden O'Connell, Purdue quarterback in the fourth as well. Chris Smith, the safety from Georgia in the fifth, and Marty Burney, the linebacker from Florida in the sixth. And Jade Silvera, Nessa Jade Silvera, the defensive line from Arizona State in the seventh. What's the grade here? B plus. And a lot of that hinges on the value, I think, of two picks. Michael Mayer, top 10 player for me, they got him 35. And Christopher Smith, they got him 170. I had him at 108 as a potential starting safety one day in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:39:51 So they crushed the value on those picks. Tyree Wilson, kind of right around where I had him. I think I had him at like 10 in this draft. No problem there. But the value of Michael Mayer as a future top 10 tight end in the nfl christopher smith is a starter in round five i wish they took tyler scott instead of trey tucker in round three try to develop aiden o'connell i knew he was going to go a little earlier than where everybody valued him but this is a draft that will be defined by mayer and wilson and i'm betting
Starting point is 01:40:22 on both of them to be hits and that's why this is a b plus i it is a c plus for me um i don't love tyree wilson everybody everybody knows i'm not nearly as high on tyree wilson it's hard it's hard to be too much of a judge because we knew this was coming right but i feel like i have to stay true to my board stick to your board and and and i gotta give this one a c plus obviously getting michael mayer where they did is some nice plus value especially as tight end three behind uh san laporta um byron young i think it's a good depth player but how much of an impact player he is i'm not really sure i think he's more of a rotational defensive line guy than um the more impact player that they needed trey tucker i thought was definitely overdrafted at number 100 jacorian bennett in the fourth round is fine Aiden O'Connell in the fourth
Starting point is 01:41:06 round also fine like Chris Smith and Amari Bernie but those guys might be more just special team players low impact guys so at the very top sure Michael Mayer good value there but Tyree Wilson I just didn't love the value of it and then I didn't really see high impact elsewhere throughout the draft so I had to give it a C plus last one, the Los Angeles chargers, or should I say the TCU chargers, Gwynn Johnston,
Starting point is 01:41:29 the pick for them, the widest year of TCU at number 21, two, two below to the edge rusher from USC in the second round, Diane Henley, the linebacker from Washington state in the third Darius Davis, widest year from TCU in the fourth Jordan McFadden tackle from Clemson in the fifth Scott Matlock,
Starting point is 01:41:44 the defensive line from Boise state in a six. And then Max Duggan, the quarterback for TCU at the fourth Jordan McFadden tackle from Clemson in the fifth Scott Matlock the defensive line from Boise State in a six and then Max Duggan the quarterback from TCU to round things out in the seventh round Connor how we feel about this one B minus for me I thought totally was the best value pick I had him at 45 they got him at 54 I like his power he plays with on the edge Quentin Johnson pretty close to where I had him He's going to be this kind of high variance wide receiver, and they could deal with that considering the skill group they have. And Diane Henley, right around where I had him, run and chase linebacker.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Thought they reached on Davis. Thought they reached on Matlock. It's just a rock solid draft. It's a B- for me. You got help at skill talent and wide receiver with Quentin Johnson. You got more pass rush help. You got more speed in the middle of the field at linebacker. Jordan McFadden gives you significant
Starting point is 01:42:29 offensive line depth that you needed, but this is just a rock-solid draft. They wanted size at wide receiver, so that's why they took Quentin Johnston instead. I'll go a little bit higher. I'll just go B on this one. Could have even gone to B+. I think they nailed those first three picks and those are the really the only ones that matter
Starting point is 01:42:48 to me. They got more, they got more dynamic at wide receiver. They got edge at depth and they got more speed at linebacker. You're, you're kind of nailing it there. So you know what? I'm changing my answer, Ryan. I'm changing my answer. I'm going to a B plus the TCU loves strange, but those were really cool though for those three guys yeah i know it is they got some friends now coming over with them which makes life a little bit easier but i'll go b plus because those three picks were really the only ones that mattered and i think they hit all three the right position the right priority with the right players that were available at the time so yeah for the los angeles chargers hard to hate on them i'm i'm
Starting point is 01:43:22 going with a b plus on this one didn't wow, but they did what they were supposed to do, and I think that is what is most important. There we go. That is all 32 team grades for the 2023 NFL draft. Let us know what you guys think. We want to hear your draft grades as well for your favorite team. We want to hear your takes on our takes. Of course, you can do so on our YouTube channel.
Starting point is 01:43:41 We are so close to 10,000 subscribers, and I am just blown away that we have gotten to this point here to tap off the 2023 NFL draft cycle. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for all the listens, the subscriptions, all that. We love you guys so much. So let us know what you think. This is always an NFL draft community, not just a podcast of us talking to you guys. Hit us up on, on, on, if you're an audio only listener, hit us up on Twitter at Tampa Bay Trey at Connor J Rogers. You can do the same thing on instagram we're gonna be clipping this one up and uh and using this as kind of one-offs for a couple of the team draft great so we're gonna be posting that throughout
Starting point is 01:44:12 the week but we will be back with you at some point i don't know if it's gonna be thursday i don't know if it's gonna be friday i don't know if it's gonna be next monday we might need to take a little bit right here but like connor said the nfl draft madness does not stop here we're gonna be here for you doing recaps, I think, throughout the next month and then diving into 2020 as well. Connor, anything else before we get out of here? No, you summed it up. Thank you, everybody, for rocking with us.
Starting point is 01:44:36 We know this was a long, long, long show. We're not done talking about the rest of this draft yet, but we wanted to get at least 90 seconds on every team so we give each and every one of you a little attention. We'll get into the details over the next couple of weeks here in the month of May. I'm Trevor Sycamore. That's Connor Rogers. Thank you guys so much for watching the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. We'll see you next time. Thank you.

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