NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 177. 2023 U-25 Draft (Full Offenses and Defenses)

Episode Date: May 29, 2023

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers drafted against one another full offenses and defenses using only player who will be under the age of 25 when Week1 of the 2023 season begins

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. In this episode, Connor and I are drafting against each other full 22-man starting rosters using only players under the age of 25 in the NFL. So it's snake draft format, kind of like what we've done over the last couple of episodes.

And we're trying to form the best teams that we possibly can. Full offenses, full defenses, and even a little bit of reserve as well. So we talk about strategy. We talk about scarcity at the position, positions that are super deep with talent and ultimately how each of our teams

are going to line up against one another. And you guys got to choose the winner. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me as always is Connor Rogers rogers let's ring the bell welcome to the opening bell of the nfl stock exchange podcast i'm trevor sycamore that is conor rogers joining you all on a beautiful monday morning or sunday night for the true addicts that are getting this bad boy early to draft once again all under 25 teams against one another connor we did this last year and it was one of my favorite

summer exercises that we did we take a look at some of the best young talent in the nfl but of course we bring a drafting style to it so you and i are about to draft starting 11 on 11 offenses and defenses with only players it will be under the age of 25 when week one comes around bingo buddy i'm very excited about this one again this is this is gonna get heated i remember this episode last summer and there were times where we're just sweating who do we pick because like you and i said at the there were times where we're just sweating who do we pick because like you and i said at the beginning of the show we're not going in order it's not like oh both of us pick quarterback now we move on to running back it is a free for all

may the best team win and of course you guys are going to have to choose whose squad is the best when it's all said and done so i'm excited for today my friend i am too this is a this is a very hard exercise to master because there's only so much prep you could do. Like I panic texted you this morning. I'm like, dude, I can't find the age filter on pro football reference. And you were like, relax, use ultimate.

And I always forget like how the capabilities of ultimate are even as I've been using it for what, two years now, I'm always overwhelmed by going to all filters and searching and i can literally filter like anything in the world and then selected ages 18 to 24 you have to be careful nobody's turning 25 during camp which is a couple guys right um so yeah this is but it's fun that's what makes it fun it's competitive it is something that i think people love to have their own takes on which is kind of a goal of our show is like what do you disagree with us or how would you do

things differently so i absolutely love this show and it's it's a really fun exercise to do in a quiet time of the football season this is going to be one of those things that we were talking about on the last couple of episodes that we want you guys to vote on whose team is better uh can we do a poll on youtube comments is that a thing we're new to youtube i think only live i want to say live all right well maybe not maybe there is maybe we'll do it on twitter so if you guys follow if if you guys follow the channel on twitter i think we're going to put up a poll we'll probably make the length of the poll like as long as we can maybe even a week long

and you guys can vote as you have listened to the episode whose team you think is the best that will be the first point in the standings for this cycle and then like we said we're going to come up with i got to do something for connor if he wins he's got to do something for me if i win it's going to be kind of like a celebrate the winner kind of a thing but this is going to be one of those categories um before we dive into this and i think the number one overall pick is going to mean a lot in this draft and so we don't know how we're deciding that right I was going to say me and you might have to throw fisticuffs about who's going to get number one overall but who are some snake right yeah of course yeah it has to

yeah um pot on the pod who are some of the players who you noticed who we could just get out in front of it you know instead of people yelling at us at the end of the episode or midway through the episode how has no one picked jalen hurts yet well jalen hurts is he turns 25 before week one of this season uh the other big one was antoine winfield junior that's that i found the two that yeah that really jumped out when okay i couldn't remember if there was another one that you found i'm'm sure there's going to be throughout this podcast when we get into deeper positions. Oh, did I just find another one or no? Give me one second.

Okay, all right. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. No. Sneaky. Sneaky young. Okay. Don't tell me.

Yeah, don't tell me. You know what's interesting, too, in this is how to value rookies. Yes, right. You really are going on a draft evaluation but it's it's really dangerous yeah um really dangerous so i remember last year specifically i'm pretty sure i took icky at some point and nicky had a really good rookie season but like he could have been really bad and you'd look back on it now and be like oh god that was a bad choice you just right right yeah the the rookie the rookie factor here is it will be important because there are a handful of players that could potentially sneak into these teams uh it was

like we said it wasn't the most talented class at the top but i think that there are um some players who can definitely get in on here. So how are we doing this? Who's getting, I don't even, I don't even know. Like I really, it's so hard. It's so hard to do.

The number one, everybody knows. I think everybody listening knows in their brains why we're going back and forth like this. There is a very clear advantage at the most important position in football. very very clear yeah the tight long snapper yeah i'm 25 slot corner i don't is there is there or do we use a randomizer right now look we can use a randomizer i feel i almost feel bad throwing this out there okay because i'm i'm the winner of it then do it i don't mind that my madden team won last year oh okay no that's good i like that

didn't i think that's good right i did i think i had a justin herbert throw like 35 interceptions i don't know what happened and my receivers were jamar chase and all these studs and it we stunk up the joint. So when we went over this, for the people who are listening to the podcast that weren't listening to this episode last year, a wonderful listener of the pod took our teams, put them together in Madden, and simulated the game against one another. Shootout, by the way. Oh, dude, it was whatever it was.

63 to like 35 or something crazy. No defense was played. Yeah, no defense. No, don't draft defense. You will lose. But my team did win. So I don't know. No, I'm cool.

I'm cool with that. Okay. All right. I don't, I feel kind of bad about it, but I also don't feel kind of bad about it. No, I think it's going to be hell for me, but no, actually, no, no, it's not. It's fine. I'm talking myself into but no, actually, no, no, it's not. It's fine.

I'm talking myself into it. I'm coping. This is Copium live on air. Listening, coping is going to be half of this exercise. So with that being said, I'm sitting here like Tony Montana with Copium on the desk. I'm taking Trevor Lawrence. Yeahrence yeah well there it is i'm taking i'm taking trevor lawrence number one overall in this draft i know people who are uh people who have been reading my articles the past week watching the jags twitter account light me up for having trevor lawrence like 18th on my under 25 list are probably freaking out right now and

yelling at me but there's no other choice that could be made here you know i was kind of going back to that article in in a way to explain trevor lawrence a little bit here i had him in 18 but man having him at 18 of the top 25 players under 25 that was much more about the players that are have are already arrived in the league at a young age so many of the players that i had ranked above trevor lawrence have already earned elite pff grades either this year or last year for their position like they're already mastering their skill set and that's crazy so i've had a lot of those guys a lot higher lawrence had a fantastic stretch

really in the second half of the season there was about a six game stretch where he was playing very, very well. I was a little, the reason why I had him lower on the list is because I was, I was a little hesitant to give him too much praise because the last couple of games that he played the playoff games, I didn't love him in. I didn't love him during points that Tennessee game is the last game of the season as well. So I'm like, okay, I still think he's a little up and down right now but in this exercise we're building a team we're picking guys

under 25 and there's nobody that you could start this draft with other than trevor lawrence he has the highest ceiling of any of these passers that you could pick from um and he's the obvious choice so duval came for your ass yeah so the jags twitter wild twitter specifically oh well and i look i love jags fans like all the responses like i'm kind of like laughing as well with them like i don't take these things personally it's just it's it's a ranking but the jags official twitter account tweeted out that i had him 18th and then the blurb that i wrote for it and yeah jags fans really oh okay i thought they were like get him i mean they the wolves that kind of is a polite way of sticking the wolves on you i was gonna say they knew what they were doing when they did it yeah they did i respect social media

game you got to be able to do it man they did you could you could retaliate but you're you're humble you're you're a humble person yeah i'm also not gonna win that argument no probably not there's just there's just okay so i get to pick back to back yeah uh this is pretty easy for me this is this was how i coped with this and it was funny because i did decide this and then i opened your article and i was like oh wow trevor sees it the exact same way yeah i'm taking micah parsons okay who i agree with you is the best football player entering the season under 25 years old i mean he's unbelievable yeah he's just he's unbelievable yes and he's only getting better um he understandablyably is right in the thick of it

to win defensive player of the year this year, the opening odds. So I am very happy, of course, about getting an edge talent in Micah Parsons, who, looking at our sheet, do I technically put him on the DL section? You can put him anywhere. So for people out there, we did an awful job, as we often do, setting this up for the listeners. Actually, you know what? Ryan's probably going to save our ass once again as the producer and have it set up correctly when you guys are watching this on the screen.

But we're giving ourselves flexibility here. So the way that the roster is set up is we got one quarterback, one back two wide receivers one tight end and then a flex player so another running back another wide receiver another tight end then we have two offensive tackles three interior offensive linemen defense it's set up to where you can you can play these guys however you want right if you want to play a 4-3 we have the flexibility to have a 4-3 if you want to play a 3-4 we give you you the flexibility to do that. So it's three defensive linemen, another hybrid defensive lineman or a linebacker, two more linebackers,

a slot corner, two outside corners, and two safeties. We're also going to draft reserve players quickly at the end of the draft. A reserve skill player, a reserve offensive lineman, a reserve box player, and then a reserve coverage player too. So that's how the rosters are going to break down.

So you can put Parsons wherever you want, all that to say. He's my front seven flex guy. Yeah, you could, right. And you could have flexibility with him from then on out. So Parsons, I figured was going to have to come up next. My other pick, not really much of a surprise. I'm going to go with Justin Jefferson. I just want that talent here.

I really want the talent. All right. It's fascinating because, you know, obviously wide receiver is a good group at this age, but he's different. Like he's really, really different. And I'm just, yeah, I didn't get Trevor Lawrence. So I'm just going to try to make up as much miles as I can

by taking the absolute elite talents that are available in this draft. Oh man. I don't think you're shocked, though, by those. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not shocked. The reason why I'm I'm sighing is there are a couple of ways that I can go about this draft from here on out. But if I don't go a certain direction.

And you do, that's part of it. Then that's going to be rough for me. Connor, this all hinges on upon whether I think you're going to screw me over. As I often attempt to do on most episodes of this show you do indeed i'm a specialist at that oh i'm gonna regret this if i have to

all right i'm gonna pick All right, I'm going to pick Jamar Chase. Okay. I wasn't sure if I was going to go that direction, but I've got to pick Jamar Chase because I can't let you get the greatest wide receiver group ever assembled. Which I tried to do last year, if I remember correctly, and it didn't really pay off for me. So I'll go Chase.

And then I'm going to go with Jalen Carter as my next pick here. Wow. Yeah. There's the stunner of the draft. So there are obviously more established players that are on here that you could go with. But defensive line, specifically interior defensive line, when it comes to getting after the passer, is not super strong under 25 right now.

Unless I am missing somebody, which I already took Carter. So if you're about to absolutely steal somebody then maybe maybe I'm totally wrong but I'm going with Jamar Chase for the first selection I've got to get a wide receiver one I can't let you get Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and any of the other incredible wide receivers that we have here but then I will go with I don't know if there's there's a more talented three technique pass rusher than Jalen Carter even right now without him playing it down in the NFL versus the guys that we have under 25 so I wanted to get the pass rushing three technique guy so I'll go um yeah we'll go Jamar Chase and

then I'll go I'll go Jalen Carter so I had Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase as my wide receiver duo last year. Okay. Yeah, then maybe I just have nightmares about it. Right. Well, yeah, I mean, they're sick, and it could have been replicated this year. So I think that was a wise move by you. I'm sweating already. I'm just absolutely sweating.

Isn't it insane how quickly it just gets, like, utterly ridiculous? Yeah, yeah. It's like my life is on the line dude it's like my family's in danger and i gotta if i don't pick the team that wins in madden sim then i never see my family again granny's not getting out of the case oh gets me every time sick world sick world we live in gets me every time. Sick world. Sick world we live in. Gets me every time. All right, where are you going? You're up.

You got back to that. Man, I am absolutely a mess right now. I'm a puddle. I don't even... I'm just completely swimming upstream at the moment. Okay. Homer alert. I'm going to take Sauce Gardener. Okay. All right. Don't care. He's sick. Yeah okay all right don't care he's sick yeah yeah don't

care he's awesome uh so now i have micah parsons rushing with sauce leading the secondary yeah it's pretty sick yeah i can't buy about it this is where it gets kind of man yeah sauce sauce was you have understandably so picked position group player number one yeah on my on my board because i got i got these guys broken up into a different big board and obviously jefferson's number one parsons number one sauce is number one so uh i can't hate i can't hate on the draft at all right now for you no is you're right. The strategy is kind of playing in of. Like, I love these certain players, but I love the pool they're in. Correct.

I kind of shrug and I'm like, if Trevor takes two guys in front of me, I won't. I'll be OK. Yeah, I'll be OK. So I think that really plays into it. Where, where and why it gets so tricky this is this is gonna seem this is gonna seem pretty wild i'm here for it i don't even i don't even i don't need to hear anything else i'm here i'm gonna take patrick sirtan yeah i there's really good corners under 25 i think i think gardener i think sauce and sirtan are the best corners in football maybe right now there's there is certain there's really good corners under 25 i think i think gardener i think sauce and certain are

the best corners in football maybe right now there's there is certain there's an argument to be made yes i mean there's other players in the conversation but like if i can get maybe the two best corners in football on the same under 25 team yeah that is so like that was part of sick that was and i promise i'm not going to continue to reference trevor lawrence and where i had him in the rankings the entire show but i had sauce at five in my under 25 list and i had patrick sirtan at seven yep first of all the people who were passionately complaining that sauce was over Sertan, like they're five and seven and five and seven flip a damn coin.

It doesn't matter. These are both just two of the best in the game. And that's that, that is where it is. Also, you just mentioned those two guys might be the best at their position at an incredibly difficult position to play. And so when I, when I was going back and forth a little bit with people about Lawrence, some people wanted Lawrence high. Some people wanted Lawrence like in the top five. And it's like, Lawrence isn't close to one of the best quarterbacks in the game yet.

I mean, maybe he will be this year, but it's not like, again, this just goes back to how talented I think this, this young group of players is this year but it's not like again this just goes back to how talented i think this this um young group of players is this year and sirtan and sauce were two of those guys who all right you're going back to back um had i had to find a strength somewhere i better i mean once i didn't get trevor lawrence it was like i'm gonna be swimming upstream so let's try to let's try to make up some miles so i'm just trying to find unique strengths okay that's it i think that's my first unique strength i mean yeah wide receiver and edge they're good groups you're gonna make up ground So I'm just trying to find unique strengths. Okay. I think that's my first unique strength.

I mean, yeah. Wide receiver and edge, they're good groups. You're going to make up ground there. Yeah. But yeah. So I, with my next two picks, I'm going to attack scarcity once again. Right. Again, not saying that these are the next two most talented players that are left.

No doubt. But for the pool of players, this is where i'm going the first player i'm drafting is kyle pitts at tight end just got to do it there's there's there's no other tight end who is even close to him i think talent wise uh sure maybe it hasn't exactly been the type of start of his career that we have wanted to see but over a thousand yards as a rookie i mean mean, he's, he's still, he's still good, man. He he's, he's still an alien, man. He's going to figure it out. And they're going to figure it out within that offense.

So I'm going to go with Kyle pits is my next pick here. And then in another massive surprise. Okay. I'm going to go, I'm going to go with Jordan Davis. Damn. That was, that was my next pick. Yeah. I I've got to go Jordan Davis here because interior defensive line, if you're playing with, if you're setting up your team with two interior defensive linemen, which I kind of want to,

Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter are, to me, without question, the guys that have the highest ceiling in this group. They're the highest impact players. They're the most talented players. And there are some other guys on this list. Obviously, you'll draft at least one of them. But those are the two guys that I have to go with so i'm going i'm going pizza tight end and i'm

going jordan davis no doubt i don't blame you at all i was looking to get a d line because it's once again a group that can scare you and now i kind of look back and i'm like screw it at this point it's not really people I'm clamoring necessarily. Those will be your second and third to last picks other than quarterback, I would assume. Yeah. I mean, why bother at this point? So, okay.

Just now you're hitting on your defensive lineman under 25. Yeah, I already told you my D-line might stink. No, it's – and it kind of puts me back in the spot of let's try to make up some ground in you know unique circumstances um which is pretty difficult to do right now there are good players but i think right here then because i i do think he has separated himself from the pack i'm gonna take tristan werf's here okay because i just think he's so good and there there are this is a good tackle group like that's why i wasn't gonna do this but i do think werf's is on a little bit of a different level um than the entire tackle group

which i know you agreed with looking at the article and how you stack them as well. Yep. Yep. Totally did. And, and worse is somebody who just the consistency man has been there for him. I mean, he even took a step up in elite pass protection. Now, of course the question is now Brady's no longer his quarterback. Brady had one of the fastest times to throw times to throw one of the fastest time. I'm an idiot. One of the fastest time to throw of any quarterback in the nfl and that is objectively going to change with them going to baker mayfield so right how much of tristan wirth's not giving up sacks not giving up pressures was brady getting

the ball out quick or was it really him being a pass protecting technician i think it's a little bit of both i think the truth is in between, but it doesn't take away anything from the fact that he has had an unbelievable start to his career already. And he's just straight up one of the best offensive tacklers in the NFL, regardless of age. So my next pick, talking about building strengths on strengths, this player is severely underrated coming into the season

where people might not get as excited about me initially. And I think that'll look a lot better a year from now. I'm going to take Jalen Phillips. Oh, you. Yeah. I had to find it once again, some kind of advantage somewhere. Now I have Micah Parsons and Jalen Phillips. The edge group is, is like, it drops off.

It does. It does. It does drop off, but it drops off a little bit. And Jalen Phillips was really, really good last year. And I think under Vic Fangio, I know in PFF, he had an 88.6 pass rush grade. I mean, he might be one of the bigger plays to make a giant jump this year. He is 23 years old. I'm jacked up about the past like you you got the interior going

but I got the edge the edge guys firing with Parsons and Jalen Phillips man Phillips Phillips would have been next for me he would have been he would have been in that next group because I was going to put together a defensive line that I was thinking I was clearly going to win that group so Phillips is fantastic man I remember I had him as edge one in the draft when when he was coming out a couple of years ago he just can do everything he can win with strength he can win with speed he can win with flexibility even for a player of his size super impressive and i think that his rise is really underrated right now there's a lot of other talking points coming out of miami whether it was mike mcdaniels as a head coach obviously what was going on with tua

you know the Tyree kill, Jalen Waddle, the connection wide receiver. Like there were so many other things that you could have talked about with Miami that I felt as if Jalen Phillips ascension last year was not talked about enough. So love the pick there. I thought that that was a really great pick and you got a good defense. I have to, I have to stop Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, you do. And Jamarar chase imagine that

well it's kind of dumb to say because joe burrow is better than trevor lawrence so it's like no i can't imagine that that's a great quarterback that's that's that's fair actually uh that that that is fair um all right do i go after scarcity again i think i i think i need to that's how the beginning of the draft tends to go unless you just see an elite talent. Right, right, right, right. I'm going to go. I'm going to get Creed Humphrey at center.

Nice. I'm going to take Creed. And then I think I'll go Trey Smith. So I'll go both Kansas City Chiefs here with the interior offensive line selection. Creed will play center for me, obviously, and then Trey's going to play one of the guard spots for me. So I'll go back to back there.

There are other players that you'd be okay with, and I know that you're going to be okay with drafting at these spots, but for the reasons that you're going to be okay with drafting at these spots but um for the reasons that you mentioned with these other with these other positions just being so deep kind of want to touch on those two players and creed he was super high on on that article list that i had because dude i mean what more could you want from him he's graded out as an elite center in both of his first two seasons he's awesome he's he's he is clearly the best in a group that you may be okay with the other guys he's clearly the best so uh we'll go

with the two kansas chiefs offensive linemen here at great humbry and trey smith all right so i think it's going to surprise you a little bit but my next picks okay are going to be cd lamb and jaylen waddle and i'm going to play obviously justin jefferson and cd lamb and my wide receiver spots spots waddle in my flex my total flex spot yeah because i'm understanding that i am not going to have a trevor lawrence at quarterback and i need my weapons to be truly elite difference makers to get the ball in their hands and I love that trio I mean Waddle last year is what a 23 year old had over 1300 yards we know Lamb and Jefferson are just unique dominant threats in the NFC there are still good wide receivers but I really need to step it up a notch knowing that i'm a step

behind that quarterback so jefferson cd lamb jaylen wattle are my my it's 11 personnel for me i almost did that i almost instead of the offensive lineman i almost was just like we're going full madden here we're airing it out i'm getting all those guys plus kyle pitts i'm gonna make so so one of us was gonna get an absolutely terrifying wide receiver trio i couldn't let you do it with lawrence like then i'm i'm just it doesn't matter if i have eight sauce gardeners and sirtans out there well i think you had eight sauce gardeners and sirtans i think that you actually might be okay but uh run defense might be a problem, but man, we're going to cover the hell out of everyone. You would, you definitely would. Okay. So got those wide receivers off the board. And I love it, man. I think the Jalen Waddle took a big step forward this year. Oh man, is he good? The previous year, it felt like they were just using him kind of as an underneath player. They were like, Hey, you're super fast. Let's get you those yards out to catch. This year was different. This year, I thought that they really allowed him

to develop a better route tree deeper down the field. They got the most out of that deep speed with him too. And CeeDee Lamb, kind of the same thing, right? Amari Cooper's out of there. He's taken over as that wide receiver one. And he's a player who had a lot of success in the slot, but now he's also shown that he could have success on the outside too.

So Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, Jalen Waddell are three players now that I know that this is in the slot but now he's also shown that he could have success on the outside too so justin jefferson cd lamb g on waddle are three players now that i know that this is kind of it's it's truly a fantasy roster that we're putting together but that would be terrifying to try to guard because all three of those guys can play all three wide receiver spots at any point in time so um right yeah that's that's a really nice trio that you have there um all right where am i going with this next one i'm currently sitting here like in a puddle of sweat because i think i'm gonna get sniped and i might have not screwed up because i i've just loved that trio i've gotten but i've i'm nervous on this round it is what it is but i'm trying to think of where you think you're gonna get sniped although it's i'm being a little dramatic but it's i just i think

it might happen here um can i draft tyler smith as a guard because he played left tackle a lot last year no no no no fill in for tyron smith but he's supposed to be a guard for no that's fine okay i totally think if a guy has position flexibility that we've seen with our eyes like yeah then he he gets it in the under 25 draft remember like you you are developing a like a team here you're not just like playing total like you're of scheme in mind you're player development in mind that's completely fair so i think i'm gonna go he's a killer tyler smith has one of my selections that rounds out my interior offensive line and my interior defensive line is all surrounded out.

So I'm pumped there. He's got his thinking cap on folks. I'm going to go into Kobe Dean at linebacker. Okay. Yeah. So I'll, so Tyler Smith. Oh,

I have Trey Smith and Tyler Smith. Hey, what do you know? Look at that. An offensive line full of Smiths. Just, just this Smiths. It's just agent Smith offensive line.

Creed and Smith firm. Smith, Smith and Creed. Yeah. There you go. Better call Smith, Smith and Creed. Yeah, there you go. Better call Smith, Smith and Creed. So I'm happy that I'm rounding out my interior offensive line and my interior defensive line.

And then linebacker, I think there's a handful of options that obviously we could go with. But N'Kobi, man, you go back to what he was able to do at Georgia and it's just special impact stuff, that national championship season. And I think that a time is certainly coming where he is going to elevate the middle of that Eagles defense. He's going to have a similar type of impact as a communicator, as a guy who could be all over the field. He's got the athleticism. He has that recognition. So of course, yeah, he's a little bit smaller. He's a little bit

limited physically. He's got the injury history, but I just think that this guy is so, so talented. So I wanted to make sure that I got Nicoby Dean. I know you like him a lot. I wanted to get him is at least one of my linebackers here. Cause I'm probably going to play a nickel based defense anyways, because everybody is, but Tyler, Tyler Smith and, and, and Nicvi Dean is my two selection tier. Yeah, I would say you're probably going to play nickel because my 11 personnel is never coming off the field. Right, right. Yeah. OK, so the player I was worried you would snipe was Nick Bolton at linebacker. Oh, OK. All right. I knew you were going to take linebacker.

Bolton was Bolton was two for me. Like, OK, I had Dean one Bolton two and they were they were right there for me. So yeah, so I had to take Nick Bolton because linebacker is is a very scarce position. Yeah, true this and that becomes quite the problem quite quickly. And that's kind of my thought process. For the next one, and this is a little projecting here it it really really is and i thought he was good last year but i think he can be uh maybe great this year and expectations are to be great and once again this is a position serious scarcity i am going to take kyle hamilton

at safety oh okay. All right. He's the guy who I thought of other than, other than the Kobe Dean, maybe go. It's definitely one of those, like he probably won't be, he'll probably be a bottom five player on this roster based on talent. Cause there's so much damn talent,

but it goes back to your thought with interior D line. There is not much at safety here there really isn't no uh no you're right and hamilton is somebody who i was looking up different position snap counts for these guys at safety because of course like we call guys safeties but okay are you a single high safety or box safety? Are you, are you, are you playing slot? What are you doing? And Hamilton was one of those guys who can play a lot of different ones for you. Like he could play free.

He could play strong. He played in the slot a lot for the Baltimore defense last year. So he's got a ton of versatility there. They gave away Chuck Clark, gave him away. So they were like, right. It's Kyle Hamilton's time. Yeah. They were very, they were like right it's it's kyle hamilton's time yeah they were very they were very very comfortable with that okay um i can't have you snipe this player from me

so i think what positions do we have that are the same now? We have one or that we both have open. We have running back. Yep. We have one offensive tackle spot. We have, don't have an edge spot. We have one linebacker spot, a nickel corner spot and and a safety spot. Okay, I'm going to go with J.C. Horn. Nice.

Because I cannot let you get J.C. Horn as you're somehow like – I thought about it. I really did. So I was going to J.C. Horn patrick chertan would be absolutely sick i didn't have jc horn on my um on my top 25 under 25 and honestly hand up mistake he should he should have been on there i should have had jc horn on there uh he is that talented even with the time that he has missed from injury he's going to be uh one of the best young corners in the game. I should have had him on there. So I'll go with Horn. All right, I'm going to go with Talanova-Hufonga as my other safety here. It's a fun pick.

I felt as if Hamilton and Hufonga were the top two safeties to get. Um, and then there's a handful of guys that I think are good that you'd be okay with, but for what who Fonga was able to do as a true, like middle of the field impact player, that was pretty unmatched versus the guys that he was, um,

compared against last year. So we'll go, we'll go to secondary spots. We'll get, we'll get JC horn to make sure you don't have an just absolutely sick cornerback trio. And then we'll go Funga here as well. Okay.

It puts me back on the clock, man. It is getting really, it's getting pretty tricky here. Well, now we're, we're at the point. We don't have many overlapping.

No, there's not like the strategy at play isn't insane. Still have a corner spot open. Still have a linebacker spot open. Still both do have a safety spot open. Tackle and then running back are the two that we have open right now. Yeah, I'm going to take Jonathan Taylor. I just think that he's just a clear clear one clear clear number one great player the colts had everything go wrong for them last year

he's gonna remind everybody this year healthy better quarterback situation we think rejuvenated new coaching staff jonathan taylor is a great player and it goes back to me not getting Trevor Lawrence trying to one-up you as much as I can at other positions on offense that I can gain any kind of competitive advantage I mean really that's that's what it comes down to and it gets really interesting man it really does now we're once again back in that strategy mold because I'm looking at some players and I'm like, can I play them in that spot?

Man. I don't want to say I'm stuck. I'm just like really, really torn here. I am going to take Rashaun Slater. Okay. And just have like the tackle group is really really good but worse and slater as my my book ends and slater plays on the left in this situation worse stays on the right yep that are bouncing over so i like the compliments there no i wondered when

i wondered who was going to take slater next because Cause I think that Slater, I don't want to say is the obvious choice because I mean, now that all the tackles are off the board, like, you know, Penny Sewell is there. Christian Derrissaw is there. Andrew Thomas is there. Andrew Thomas is great. Right. Like these are all, Ike Ikuon, who obviously is still there as well. So there's a, there's a ton of guys that you could, that you could still believe in, but

I still thought Ray Sean Slater was going to be that next guy, so who's going to take the bait on it? Obviously, you do here. So was that two picks for you? That was two picks, yep. Yeah, you went Taylor. Yeah, you went Taylor and then Slater. Don't have many open spots left.

I'll go... I'll attack two of the open spots that we have i'll draft devin lloyd as my other linebacker okay and then i will take tyreek woolen oh as my as my other as my other outside corner that's a fun pick yeah so i so two young defensive guys obviously dean not dean uh lloyd is still kind of coming along stuff to step in right away as a linebacker and really look that good so that you just have so much on your plate you're trying to be a community especially for that jags defense that didn't really have a leader outside of him uh at the second level so i felt as though his first season was fine there were were flashes, there were struggles,

but I still think that he is going to be a really good football player. And then yeah, woolen because again, I don't want you to just have this freakish secondary that I can not pass the ball against despite getting Trevor Lawrence at number one in the draft. So, okay.

So this is where it gets kind of tricky once again i'm looking at like bad some really rough groups for this exercise and just trying to plug the holes obviously that was the thought with the bolton and kyle hamilton pick and you could tell i'm like trying to filter through ultimate right now and it's just like overloaded it's like what the hell are you doing um they're like what exercise are you doing yeah what the hell are you doing okay so man dude it is like it gets it gets rough out here i want to double i need to check an age too i haven't sweat this hard since verdansk was the map in Warzone, honestly. God. Oh, what a sweat that was. That was the last time I played Warzone. Yeah, with good reason.

Yeah, good reason. Okay, this is a Stock Exchange favorite. Oh! Stock Exchange favorite coming off a little bit, maybe, I guess, of a down year, but I still believe in him. And this position group kind of stinks. I'm going to take cam curl here.

Oh, okay, cool. He's a stock exchange favorite. Yeah. Cam's awesome. Cam's great. He's a good player.

The safety group. God, it's, it's pretty bad. Just being honest here. Like the more you get into it, the one guy that I'm a K for who's going to make. Okay.

Okay. I like to hear that. I really do. Now I'm yeah cam is cam it hasn't been a good secondary group for washington and that's why they invested so heavily into it yeah it's super up and down at best you know you know two early draft picks this year in um tritavius martin and and emmanuel for But Curl is one of those players who makes a ton of sense as a reliable dude, as a strong safety type.

So he still gives you the ability to move Kyle Hamilton around a lot on your team. So I like that Cam Curl got drafted here. That's appropriate, I think. So I have a sneaky one for my next one. I thought this guy was really good last year. Okay. And he kind of salvaged me in a spot that i thought i was doomed at how about christian barmore oh well he had he had to

be one of the top four players that we were going to draft that interior defensive line so he's very good he is i know he's been banged up at times, but I really, really like bar more and think he's somebody that I could walk away with and go, okay, my, my D line is we'll be okay. Yeah.

So yeah. I'm curling bar more. Only other spot that we have open now is nickel corner. Right. All right. So there's a player that i have ranked higher and then there's a player that i think is a better nickel corner interesting actually i think i'm gonna i think i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna abandoning ship no no no no i'm opening up ultimate really quick because i've got to see

i've got to see where this where this where this player played because if they did not play in the slot at all whatsoever and i will obviously break this down in a second that's the tricky part then it's like i don't know i down in a second that's the tricky part then it's like i don't know i wonder if we're looking up the same exact player if we are just send it over to me no i'm just kidding um let's see okay because i'm laughing at the snap total i just found oh no oh no folks oh no it's all going to hell where no i don't want to why am i looking at special teams i don't want to look at special teams i want to look at coverage player position this is great podcasting we're at that point of the draft folks sorry okay all right all right

all right we're okay here okay that's better I thought. That's more slot snaps than I thought. We didn't look at the same player then. Oh, we didn't? Alright, I don't think this guy played slot. But he's better. Son of a... No, this guy played absolutely no slot. Oh, maybe we are then.

Son of a god. If you don't do it i'm doing it i'm gonna pick tyson campbell okay wow yeah definitely not a slot right right we're we're gonna i'm gonna pick tyson campbell and he's we're gonna figure it out who's better at playing in the slot versus the outside shoot maybe we could just.C. Horn roam around and play the slot because I have a ton of faith in J.C. Horn to be able to do that. But I was debating between Tyson Campbell and Trent McDuffie. And McDuffie's played a lot more in the slot than Tyson Campbell has. Campbell is basically an exclusively outside corner.

So maybe he ends up playing outside corner for me but those are the two guys that i was looking at hey i had aj terrell on the board as well like i was think i was thinking about uh trayvon diggs too but um ultimately i'm just i'm gonna go with tyson campbell here because he had such a fantastic year last year maybe it's a little bit of recency bias over um Terrell who was an elite corner two years ago not a very good corner this past year so I just go with guy who is I think playing at a higher level right now and Tyson Campbell so you have your three corner spots take you yes I do okay yep yep I mean again, we're kind of at the point where it doesn't fully matter here.

It doesn't anymore. I think with it, we're all, we're all accounted for. Because we can't, we can't pick our reserve players until all the rosters are filled. Yes, of course. So I'm going to take Tyler Linderbaum to play center. Yeah, knew you would. Yeah, no surprise there. Easy one for me.

And then I am going to take Trevon diggs to play as my third corner he's probably the one that's going to go to the slot i was torn between asante samuel jr who played nine snaps in the slot yeah that i didn't even think about jesus he was the guy i thought we were he's the one i thought we were googling together yeah and i liked him but i'm going to take diggs diggs gardener sirtan are my corners linder bomb at center how many how many snaps do digs play in the slot probably barely any let's get let me look i'm not really a guy i would see traveling like that yeah uh where is i'll find it though trevon digs let Let's see. Where are you?

I would think not a lot unless he's going with somebody. Oh, I put 100 targets. That wasn't very smart. He played 58 snaps in the slot versus 1,147. I'll take it. Better than nine. We just did the same thing with Tyson Campbell. Oh, okay. You know where to go.

If I say slot, you know where to go. Cool. That's more than nine. That's my favorite quote from this episode. Okay. I said 58 and you were like, oh, that so excited man like a pig and shit i was like thank god more than nine 58 i bet all those came in like one game too oh he probably had to trail somebody they're like all right well the next position i'm looking for is complete hell you're

up by the way so it's which is because, boy, do I need the time. I want to see the slot snaps that he played by game. Okay, that's good. Just grinding Ultimate Film. To look up. All right, back on the rails. Serious podcasting. Get two edge spots.

I guess I could take my two edge rushers now. I'll go Aiden Hutchinson and Chase Young. Those are the two edge rushers that I am going to go with. Good group. I certainly have faith in Hutchinson, who, as the year went on, it just felt like he was getting better and better, creating more pressures, getting more backfield production. I think that he's just going

to be a really good pro in this league young one of the most productive pass rushers we've seen in college when he was coming out former number two overall pick played somewhat well in spurts before the injury but it just never felt like he really turned it on and was like crazy dominant. I certainly that has to happen this year since Washington did not pick up the fifth year option for him. And this is his last year before hitting unrestricted free agency. So either way, whether he's still in Washington next year or whether it's somewhere else, if he wants to cash in big time, this is the time to do it.

He was still coming back from the injury last year. So it's a little bit understood why he wasn't able to dominate, but this is the year. It's almost like his career is not over, but it's put up or shut up time right now for chase young. Like, are you going to really elevate into that, that dominant pass rusher that teams are going to want to pay a lot of money for to get on their team? Or is he going to be, I'm not saying that this is the exact same kind of player, but are we going to talk about chase young the way that we talk about jadavian clowny where you go man a super athletic dude really great build high floor of a player but like he just won't he just cannot take that next step into being that dominant again it's not apples to apples with

jadavian clowny but it's kind of like clowny was drafted number one overall chase had all of this hype going into his draft going number two overall we're going to talk about him in that light or is it going to be a much better one so aiden hutchinson and chase young as my two edge rushers and i have faith that it will be the latter i have faith that we will be talking about chase young as one of the best young pass rushers in the league soon i love it um i absolutely love it i think that's where exactly where i would have went to and there's good value there i mean yeah it's not like you're like oh god i just need a body out there you actually feel pretty good about it okay right so my next pick i'm actually like very content with this i thought it would be worse I'm gonna take Pat fryer Muth.

Yeah, he's he's, he's the only other one that made sure we don't have a birthday issue to me. We don't know he turns 25 in October. We're good. Yeah. So Pat fryer Muth a tight end. I like fryer Muth. And then start to look at the offensive line here. I'm going to go with Quinn Miners. Oh, nice. Okay. Yep. I had him on the big board.

Very good. Yeah. I feel like very good. Yep. So Quinn Miners at guard next to Tyler Linderbaum with Warfson Slater at tackle. One more interior offensive lineman is left for me to pick. Yeah. I'll stick with offensive line as well.

I'll just go my two offensive tackles andrew thomas gonna play left and penny sewell is gonna play right nice thomas was elite this past year he's fantastic he was my ot1 back in that super talented draft with him and tristan wirfs and mckay beckton and jedrick wills like i had andrew thomas's as ot1 in that draft and he really struggled this first year, but this past year, it just, the light completely came on for him. He's, he knows how to win with power finesse. He's got great balance. He's understanding pass rush moves now at NFL speed. So really great year this past year. And I think it's only going to continue for him. And then Penny Sewell,

he's been Sewell has been solid these last two years, but he's, he still struggles with penalties a little bit. However, I do think that that like year three jump for offensive tackles is very real, especially for a player who remember is as young as Penny Sewell is. I'm pretty sure Penny Sewell is still 22 years old. He's two years in the league. So I think that it could be an absolutely dominant season for him coming up as he continues to, to take that next step forward.

And even what we've already seen from is, is fantastic right tackle work. So I'll go with Andrew Thomas and Pennington. Okay. So I have one more D line spot to fill. We are going to back to the Eagles. Well, for the third time, Trevor took Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. I'm going to take Milton Williams. It is wild. It is wild. The talent they have. I mean, they just lost Hargrave, who got a monster deal. And they're still trotting out Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, and Milton Williams. Milton Williams' tape is really, really good.

He's a guy that could explode this year. And then to round out my interior of the offensive line, I'm going to take Elijah Vera Tucker. So when you picked minors, I was like like is he not gonna take abt of course of course i'm like abt's biggest fan boy because i had abt ranked ahead of minors and i like minors i was comfortable getting him in this draft but when you picked him over abt i was like did he no i just knew i just knew it didn't matter right like it just didn't matter you royal rumbled it he's you know entry number

30 yeah that's a good way to put it yeah so that rounds out my offensive line um and defensive line we're getting pretty close to the the official rosters here and then we'll go to reserves okay i will i will save the suspense with whom my wide receivers are going to be for my last two picks uh at free safety i'm going to go with jevon holland jevon holland was the he's very good great pick yeah i forgot him good von holland was the other player who good pick played really really well his first season like he's almost had an elite coverage grade as a free safety his first season this past year wasn't as strong but coverage grades and just coverage play in general very volatile year to year so he is still a really

talented player and one of the better free safeties that that i had to choose from in this draft so i'm pretty pumped getting him there uh to play next to who phone go who could play more of that strong safety over the middle type of uh enforcer role running back i'm gonna pick bijan oh i'm gonna do it yeah it had to be done i'm gonna pick bijan i i'm taking bijan over both brie saul and kenneth walker it's tough to do with the years that those two players had but i would have done the same it's when i when i made these rankings i clearly had jonathan taylor number one and then i had i I had Bijan Robinson at number two. I get it.

I know he hasn't played it down to the NFL yet. Doesn't matter. Supremely talented. Doesn't matter. So, Javon Holland and Bijan Robinson here. All right, so for my last linebacker spot, I'm going to the rookie well as well. Okay.

I'm going to take Jack Campbell. You son of a gun. I mean, he's an awesome player. He absolutely justified, in my opinion opinion as a top 25 selection and the linebacker group is kind of cheeks to be honest with you like it it really it's it's really bad I mean and I think Campbell's gonna be really good so Nick Bolton and Jack Campbell in the middle. And I saved my quarterback pick for last to build the suspense. What do you think I'm doing here? Oh, it's one of two options, right?

Okay. I think it's either Justin Fields or Price Young. That's what I think. Yep. Okay. Now, this is all due respect to, I would say, Kenny Pickett as well, who had a really nice end to the season last year. But for as much as I was impressed with Pickett in his rookie season, I think that he's going to continue to play good football.

To me, it had to come down to these two guys. If you got Trevor Lawrence, those were the two that I was going to debate between. And honestly, this is really hard. It is. Because if this team was playing a game today, I feel better about Fields. Like his rushing element and playing in an offense with this kind of talent

to improve as a thrower really, really intrigues me but i was so high on bryce young i'm gonna make my pick and then i want to hear what you would have done i'm gonna take bryce young and this is really hard it really really is because i like justin fields i liked him in that draft I thought he took huge strides last year, specifically as this game-breaking threat with how he could take off. And I saw some strides as a passer

with not a lot of talent around him. I think this is more to me about what I think Bryce is going to be than about Justin Fields. And some people won't like that and won't agree. And that's fine. I have no problem with that. That's why people talk about football. They disagree all the time.

Right. I saw Bryce Young not this far because of the size, but closer to a Joe Burrow prospect than the other end of the spectrum. And I can't say that and then not take him here. I think he is going to be such a great passer in this league, as long as that frame can hold up that i'm very comfortable taking him in this spot before he's ever played a snap in the nfl i also would have picked bryce i also would have picked bryce young and again a lot of the same

points that you made i like justin fields a lot right there is certainly reason to believe that his offensive line and his his cast of of players to throw the ball to has not been good enough but neither is he as a passer so i think i have more faith in bryce young to become a dominant passer in this league than i do justin fields but of course justin fields rushing element goes into it and what they are overall as a quarterback so i don't know if there was really a wrong answer here but yeah i don't know if there's the wrong answer would have gone with bryce young as well if you guys are really convicted in the other area if you would have said justin fields had to be one of these two picks we'd love to hear it in the youtube comments i got two spots left before

we get into the reserves uh the jalen hurts couldn't qualify it would have been so easy oh it's in lawrence being the court like oh well if if jalen hurts was eligible in this draft you probably take him you take him first right who what do you mean do you take hurts over lawrence yeah i i definitely would i would i definitely would have taken hurts over lawrence but i wonder that's another good combo i wonder when we would have drafted them great point because it's so close you're like right i didn't get jalen hertz like a trevor lawrence oh i didn't get general lawrence i'll take jalen hertz who just was amazing in the super bowl yeah it's yeah so it was good and bad right like that strategy would have been very intriguing but also this strategy was very intriguing as well if if hertz was eligible i

think what would have happened in this draft is you and i would have gone back and forth i think parsons would have been the number one overall pick no matter who each of us were picking and then we probably would have gotten like one or two rounds of our picks in and then we both would have been sweating to get either jalen hertz or trevor lawrence whoever we preferred so i feel like they would have awkwardly been like the sixth or seventh picks in the draft i would have waited till you made the pick i would not have taken one before you i don't i would have taken i would have taken hertz then i would it sounds like i would have taken before you would have then you would have taken hurts before you would have been, you would have taken. That's probably fair.

I mean, obviously hurts is ahead of Lawrence right now. There is no arguing against that. So that's, that's very fair. Right. Right. Two wide receivers left.

I already have Jamar chase. The next two wide receivers I'm going to go with are Devante Smith and T Higgins. So those are the, those are the three wide receivers that I'm going to have here. It is crazy looking at the amount of wide receiver talent that we still have. And we still have a skilled position player to select,

so I'm not going to say the other names because you now get to start with two players. So you get to snake here on the reserve since I got the number one overall pick in this draft. But yeah, Higgins and Devontae Smith, again, two guys who have fully arrived, I think, within their abilities. T. Higgins would be a wide receiver one on maybe half the teams in the league, I think, outside of Cincinnati that already has Jamar Chase. I'm sorry to T. Higgins that he still can't get away from Jamar Chase here in this very exercise.

But Devontae Smith, kind of the same way, man. If Devontae Smith were on a handful of different teams in the NFL, he'd probably be their wide receiver one. But A.J. Brown is there. So A.J. Brown, I think he's going to get a little bit more looks than him. But it was certainly a two-headed attack there in Philadelphia.

So Smith and Higgins to round out my team. All right, now we get into the reserves. In the reserves category category we have it as skill player offensive lineman box player coverage player yep my first pick is my box player i'm going with joshua uche oh he was next he's next on my big board uche is great pass rusher. Okay. Obviously, I got Jalen Phillips and Micah Parsons as my rushers. But Uche, like, there was, before I took Jalen Phillips, there was part of me that was like, do I wait? Because I will happily have Josh Uche be the other guy.

And then I decided to take Phillips because I think his projection for me in 2023 is so high. Still getting, I'm really happy about still getting Uche. I mean, that's somebody that I, if you're rotating them into rush in this scenario nasty your edge rushers are filthy with parsons phillips and uche that's a dream yeah right there my reserve offensive lineman i'm gonna take christ Christian Derusaw. You son of a bitch. You can rage quit if you want. That was the obvious though.

Now there are a couple of players that I'm obviously pumped to still pick to get as reserve players, but Derusaw had an elite he was phenomenal pass blocking grade last season he was incredible he took a massive step forward last year so getting him makes total sense yeah yeah all right well um skill position player so i can go tight end which i literally don't have any on my big board because i only listed off kyle pitts and pat fryer because i wasn't gonna take another one um wide receiver

there's a ton of guys to choose from oh yeah wide receiver is a dream coverage player you took digs didn't you i did take digs okay all right i'm gonna take i'm gonna i'm gonna take aj terrell nice that was my next pick i mean i i have to he was absolutely locked down two years ago and like i said struggled last year but coverage is up and down anyways i hope it's a much closer to the one two years ago than the one last year and i think that that will be the case with a much better defense around him. So I'll go AJ Terrell as my reserve coverage player. Okay. And then skill position.

I'm going to break your heart. I'm going to do it. Yeah. It's smart. It's a good pick. I'm going to go Garrett Wilson. Yeah. It's a great pick.

Yeah. I was very afraid that you were going to take Garrett Wilson with the reason I didn't first time around the reason I didn't is because I was okay with him or I'm on Ross St. Brown as my reserve skill guy sure but it's still he's it's a great pick yeah Yeah. He's, I mean, he won Offensive Rookie of the Year with Zach Wilson, Mike White, Joe Flacco, and Chris Strebler. All due respect. All due respect to that lovely crew of four. So, okay, so you're taking St. Brown then as your skill position player?

Monro St. Brown as my skill guy. Yep. Asante Samuel Jr. as my coverage player. Nice, that's good. Voila. All right. My O-lineman uh yeah icky aquano nice i think i have to go with icky here and then

box player uh not gonna not gonna pick an interior defensive lineman not gonna pick a linebacker how old is roy lopez i don't know how long lopez is actually uh he's 25 he graduated damn good for him though damn he turns 26 in august happy early birthday to while lopez uh i'm gonna go i'll go to go, I'll go cave on. I'm going to go cave on to go. Nice. As my, as my,

my box player here. All right. Yeah, there we go. You want to, you want to list off your team while I finish? Yes. Right in mind.

Sure. So at quarterback, I got Bryce young running back, Jonathan Taylor. My wide receivers are Justin Jefferson and CD lamb. My tight end is Pat Fryer Muth. My flex player is Jalen Waddle. We are obviously living in 11 personnel.

My tackles are Tristan Wirfs and Rashawn Slater. My interior offensive line is Quinn Miners at guard and Elijah Vera Tucker at guard with Tyler Linderbaum at center. My pass rushers on the edge are Jalen Phillips and Micah Parsons. My interior defensive linemen are Christian Barmore and Milton Williams. My off-ball linebackers are Nick Bolton and Jack Campbell. My corners on the outside are sauce Gardner and Patrick Sertan. The second, my slot corner is Trevon digs.

My safeties are Kyle Hamilton and cam curl. My reserve skill player is Amon Ross St. Brown. My reserve offensive lineman is Christian Derisaw. My reserve pass rusher box player is Josh Uche. And my reserve coverage player is Asante Samuel Jr. It's a damn good team, but full bias involved. I think my team's a little bit better. I got Trevor Lawrence at quarterback.

I got B. John Robinson at running back. My three wide receivers that I'm going to play are Jamar Chase, Devante Smith, and T. Higgins. And then when I want to get the tight end involved, you know, just throw Kyle Pitts out there just to be casual about it. My offensive tackles, I got Andrew Thomas and Penny Sewell. Interior offensive lineman, we got Creed Humphrey, Trey Smith, and Tyler Smith.

We got Smith Smith and Humphrey, the law firm. Interior defensive linemen. Pretty pumped about this one. I think this is a difference-making group for all you people who are trying to vote out there. Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. Edge rushers, I got Aidan Hutchinson and Chase Young. Linebackers, N'Kobe Dean and Devin Lloyd. Secondary, I got Tyson Campbell and Tariq Woolen playing on the outside

with J.C. Horn roaming around playing whoever's going tarik woolen playing on the outside with jc horn roaming around playing whoever's going to play in the slot on the inside then my safety is i got javon holland free safety and talanova hufonga at strong safety reserves skill player got garrett wilson offensive lineman i got icky kwan who i think's got that in in and out versatility um cave on tibido is my box player to throw in there as a good pass rusher and then my coverage player is aj terrell there we go let us know whose team you guys think how about how about this do you want to run the ball or do you need law smith smith and humphrey yes yes oh we need these shirts see like if we had merch for this show oh we would we wouldn't have to do the show anymore that's the show we just make all our money off stupid merch we need to get in on that man we need to get in we need to like make like hats and stuff and we

need to like do funny shirts and stuff like that okay this is this is i'm gonna talk to somebody about this all right so you guys let us know who you think won and why let us know what you think was the biggest reach of the draft let us know what you think was the biggest steal of the draft whose offense is better whose defense is better and how you would have gone about this differently this is an exercise that obviously we're doing here on this podcast between the two of us but we know y'all have awesome takes and opinions on these under 25 players. So we would love to hear from you. Best way to do that is on the YouTube channel. If you're watching this already on YouTube, if you don't already subscribe to the channel, please do so. We would really

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who lost all of that uh we would absolutely love you once again for doing that just like last year wouldn't it we're gonna have to like really figure this out it would be incredible if we did a stream of us watching the game oh but it's it's gonna take take a like we're going to need a couple of weeks here. That's good content, though. Maybe when we're back from vacation, because spoiler alert, and we're not going to stop posting episodes. We'll just pre tape our shows. I will never stop posting. We'll never I will never log off ever.

But maybe it's something fun we could do like a little before training camp gets going underway a couple of weeks before camp. Dude, that. That is a great idea. that's a great idea it would be very because it just feel like an hour-long stream and we could probably do it on stream yard i think anyway all right so we'll we'll plan this outside of the show i know sacrilegious yes like actual functioning adults which we are not at all we'll we'll figure all that out but um, anything else before we get out of here? No, fun show. Love this show. It is.

I don't know, man. It's such a good exercise because it just reminds you of how much young talent is in the league. Yeah, like, oh, that guy is not 25 yet. Like, right, right. And the strategy, obviously, you and I love we're obsessed with strategy when it comes to football. And that's a huge part of it.

So it's cool. I'm really enjoying that. We are, we have franchises that were running back. Like we did these all last year and, and the audience, thank you to you guys received them so warmly that we're continuing to do them and building off other years. And it's just cool to watch this show and the community grow. Yep. I couldn't have said it better myself. So if you guys follow follow the show on twitter that's where we're going to put the poll

for you guys to vote on whose team you think would win going head up against each other um and we'll probably keep that up for a little bit if you don't follow the show on twitter i believe it's at pff underscore nfl se that's where you can follow the show and get to see where that is all right i'm gonna go uh take a shower now because I'm sitting in a pool of my own sweat from all the stress from this show, but I'm Trevor Sikama. That's Connor Rogers. Thank you guys so much for watching the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. We'll see you next time. Thank you.