NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 192. CJ Stroud, Anthony Richardson & Bryce Young Rookie Review from Week 1 (2023)
Episode Date: September 13, 2023Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers take a deep dive into C.J. Stroud, Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young's debuts in the NFL. They also each bring three non-QB rookies they watched that they wante...d to shoutout
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Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock
Exchange podcast. In this episode, we're doing a rookie review for the three rookie quarterbacks
who made their first start this past weekend. CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, and Anthony Richardson
were taking deep dives into those performances, seeing what we like and things that they can
improve on as well.
We're also going to give you three other rookies each, so six total.
They really stood out to us, so we're really shouting out the rookie class and what we
saw from week one.
I'm Trevor Sycamore.
With me, as always, is Connor Rogers.
Let's ring the bell. welcome to the opening bell of the nfl stock exchange podcast i'm trevor sikama that is
connor rogers you are listening to a rookie review episode we're not sure we're gonna do
this every single week but because nfl is so talk of the town right now we wanted to double dip a
little bit for our second podcast of the week.
So we gave you what matters most from every single game,
not necessarily a rookie perspective,
but so many rookies played stood out.
And of course we got the quarterbacks as well.
We wanted to talk about it and devote an entire show to it.
Connor.
You can say it.
How are you,
man?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry man i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry oh man you guys want to know how good of a friend and co-host trevor is is that he texted me the next afternoon because
like it's nothing against anybody that did text me i appreciate you all the same but a lot of
people people some people haven't heard from in literally years i'm not even kidding it was like this is a sickening thing to say but it
was like a close family member died the way some of the texts i was getting i heard from people
that i've not heard from in so long but you let it like let it marinate properly
you really really did i mean to put my last 24 hours into perspective, right? I go into NBC.
We do fantasy football happy hour.
I take my mic off and run out, run to my car, drive home,
maybe just a tick too fast, get in the train.
I somehow made in World Trade Center my 3 p.m. pre-show meeting,
3.30, 3 p.m., whatever it was.
It's professional, though.
I mean, the excitement around the Jets under Aaron Rodgers
was unlike anything I think Jets fans in this lifetime have seen.
And we do the pregame show.
You see the entrance at MetLife.
I have taken a massive dump on MetLife Stadium my entire life.
I've never seen it look like that with the wristbands, the lights,
like a college atmosphere.
It looked like a college atmosphere, man.
It looked like a Penn State whiteout Thursday night game or something.
And then four plays into the man's career, like it all happens.
And then the craziest part is the Jets win one of the best Monday night
football games I can remember in the last couple of years. Truly, Ibiased like i think everybody else was thinking it too they're like this game
is out of control and then i actually slept down in the city woke up and took the train back did
basically the whole thing all over again he slept in the street folks i felt that way he was so
distraught he just you know exited the building and just you know fell asleep on the streets in
new york i and when i woke up on the streets in New York, I was like, did that really like you?
I really did.
I was like, did it really all happen?
Like all of it.
Do the injury to the punt return to shout out Xavier Gibson?
I mean, my goodness.
But you are a great friend for letting it marinate a little bit and not, you know, it's
just it's a lot in the moment.
It really, really is.
You know, I thought about it. And, you know, Bucks fans have it's a lot in the moment. It really, really is. You know, I, I thought about it and, you know,
Bucks fans have I've seen some tweets about this and it's true.
Like we were in that spot.
Like I can only imagine if we had signed Tom Brady and then Tom Brady goes
down four plays into his Buccaneer career.
Like I would be in the exact same spot.
And I would have been like you, it's almost like you don't know what to say.
Like, you don't even know if this is real.
This is not going to be an entire Jets podcast,
but we are going to talk a little bit about the Jets situation
because it does impact the NFL draft.
So we'll talk about that up at the top.
And then we're going to get into breaking down CJ Stroud,
Anthony Richardson, and Bryce Young's debuts.
And then we're going to give you some other rookies that stood out.
But my future father-in-law and I went to a Jets bar here in Charlotte, North Carolina.
And love to hear that they have one.
There's a lot of New Yorkers in Charlotte, though.
So I'm not surprised at all.
There are.
And brother, it was incredible.
I mean, they packed the thing out.
They're doing the J-E-T-S chant to a level of volume that I thought we were
shaking the building.
And when Bryce,
when Breesaw,
cause Breesaw's run was like,
what the first play of the game,
second play of the game,
something.
He had like a second play.
He had like a 15 yard run on the second play of the game.
You thought they won the super bowl.
Like people are on tables.
They're going nuts.
Like it was insane.
And then two plays later,
obviously Rogers get hurt.
It gets hurt.
And just the silence in the building and the silence in the stadium was
horrendous.
I wouldn't wish it on any fan.
Like that was the hard knocks,
everything in the off season.
Like we dude,
it was,
it sucked,
but to bring it back around to the conversation that we want to have here on this show,
with Rodgers being out for the year,
that means he's not going to play 65% of the snaps.
Not playing 65% of the snaps means
the Jets actually keep their first round pick.
Yeah, it's over.
Right.
And so they're only giving a second then, right?
It's the second round.
Okay, so there's no other stipulations.
That trade is done. Okay, so the trade's done now. It's going to's the second round okay so there's no other stipulations that trade is done okay so the trade's done now it's going to be the second round pick connor put your nfl
draft hat on as well as your jets i guess evaluator hat on for where that team is
what you think they're going to do at quarterback short term, like right now this year, and then what
the long-term thoughts are for quarterback, including that first round pick that they now
have that they thought they weren't going to have. Right. I think that's why so badly, so importantly,
we wanted to kick this show off with that because it's not something that like in Jets land, we
might be talking about in terms of the long-term, but in this show, I think it's massive. I think the Jets having their first round pick,
no matter where it falls,
no matter where it falls,
the Jets, in my opinion,
very well could be in the mix of this quarterback class.
So we'll start with the short term, right?
Everybody saw it on Monday Night Football.
I say this with as little bias as possible
because I've covered some awful, awful, awful Jets teams.
Adam Gayser comes top of mind, but plenty of other ones too.
This team is really good.
Like you look at the defense top to bottom.
You look at Reese Hall trying to pull off his best Adrian Peterson.
I mean, what?
Holy cow, he was incredible.
I mean, not far removed from that torn knee.
And it looked like the guy shot out of the can
and play after play making stuff,
something out of nothing.
They have Garrett Wilson,
who made one of the greatest catches
I've seen in MetLife Stadium,
and we know how good some of the catches have been there,
mostly on the Giants side.
I think that the short term is,
because they have no choice,
Zach Wilson is going to get his chance in the short term.
Now, that short term is tough, right?
You got Dallas.
We saw they ate the Giants alive.
You got New England.
That's a good defense.
You're going to see Kansas City, Denver, and the Eagles.
That's the next five.
That's before the bye week, I believe.
That's a really brutal place to be for Zach Wilson,
but that's the NFL in year three, right?
You just got to put up or shut up, and that's the way it goes, whether you expect it or not.
I think the Jets are going to add a veteran.
I would be, they're going to add a veteran, right?
What capacity of veteran that is, we don't know.
Is that try to swing a trade for stability with Jacoby Brissett or Gardner Minshew?
Is that sign of Carson Wentz to the practice squad?
What we can rule out right now, because a lot of people are pulling the,
how do you recover from this?
You can't, right?
Like, the closest thing you could have done
is somehow got Matthew Stafford at the deadline.
And I think the Rams are just going to,
Sean McVay's not signing up for that, in my mind.
They looked really good against Seattle.
Let's just put all that,
like that's not living in reality at the moment right now.
So you can't recover from this in the moment.
So we know Zach Wilson's going to get a shot.
And if he fails, which I'm rooting for Zach Wilson, duh,
but there's a good chance that in this gauntlet,
it's not going to go great for him.
And the defense in the run game is going to have to carry this team
to places that is so hard for any defense and run game.
Then they can move to a veteran, whatever.
That tells you the Jets are going to be in on the quarterback class next year.
Right. And for people that, you know, aren't ready to go to that conversation,
well, this is a draft show.
So maybe you're just in the wrong moment right now.
Trevor and I are already on top of this.
This is a deep draft class at quarterback.
Caleb Williams, Drake May, those guys are going at the top.
And then you get into the tier of Michael Penix, JJ McCarthy, Shadur Sanders, Riley Leonard,
you know, Bo Nix, Quinn Ewers. This is a deep, deep list. The Jets now not surrendering that
first round pick to the Packers. If Zach Wilson doesn't prove he can be the guy with the state
of this roster, whether Aaron Rodgers retires or not, let's say he doesn't. Let's say Aaron
Rodgers says, I'm going to go through the grueling rehab of an Achilles. I'm going to come back at 40 years
old and I'm going to prove the world wrong because I think this team can win a Super Bowl.
You need the guy behind him more than ever right now. And Joe Douglas, his year just got a hell
of a lot more interesting because they have to be in on this quarterback class because this is a
rare year that I picked 17 or 24 or whatever the hell it is
you can draft your starter of the future I'll say with my chest right now I think you can get your
starter of the future maybe not a play ready guy but you can get your starter of the future
we talk about like a lot of teams that are really interesting in this quarterback class
I think they're gonna I think they're gonna have a really interesting season the Jets so
at the top we're focused on that but no where they pick, their draft just got a hell of a lot more interesting.
I totally agree with you.
I think that in this quarterback class, as it currently stands,
you can convince yourself that there is a guy that can get it done for you.
Shoot, maybe not even in the first round.
You might have even been thinking, if the Jets had their second round pick
and Zach Wilson, they were pretty much done with him anyways.
They could have been looking at quarterback.
I feel like in the second round, now you just accelerate that a little bit more.
You mentioned the Matthew Stafford pick.
Is there any one potentially out there other than Stafford that you would throw in the
mix to think about trading something like a first round pick for, or is it basically like just Stafford? And if you wouldn't get Stafford, which is going to
be difficult to do. And the reason why I bring it up is because I was talking with Sam Monson
earlier today about this, because to me, Kirk Cousins is kind of in the same category.
And if you're going to trade a first round pick for a veteran quarterback that you think gives
you a Superbowl window, he's actually the easier one to do that because he's only got one year left on his deal so you can basically
go to the vikings and say we weren't expecting to have a first round pick anyways right so
let's trade the first round pick for cousins and essentially tell minnesota we're gonna overpay for
cousins you you pay for him we'll give you a first round pick,
but you still got to pay most of his contracts.
So we don't have to,
because I assume that the Jets are probably near the cap floor.
You could also do something like that with Matthew Stafford.
It wouldn't be new for the Rams because they basically did that to get Stafford,
but Stafford's contracts a lot longer and it's a little more complicated than that.
And so I'm not sure if that works,
but it sounds like you're basically like hey it is what it is we'll go as far as the defense
can take us this year and then we're really looking at quarterback in next year's class
yeah i think the only way i would even entertain that and i get it especially it's very interesting
if the vikings doesn't make sense of the vikings if their season goes the wrong way big if but if
their season went the wrong way if i'm, but if their season went the wrong way.
If I'm the Jets, I only entertain the overpay if it's a pick in 2025.
I would, looking at the depth of this quarterback class and the timeline, right?
Let's focus on the timeline.
Let's live in a wild world right now and map it all out and say that happens.
The Jets land Kirk Cousins.
We're not going to say for what yet.
Kirk Cousins is going to play out the rest of the year, trying to help the Jets get to the promised land. Aaron Rodgers says, I'm not retiring, which let's all pray. He's going to come back and plan to play in 2024.
I don't think you can just roll 2024 again with final year of Zach Wilson's deal and Aaron Rodgers at 40 coming off an Achilles,
I would think you need to have that first round quarterback playing behind Rodgers coming off
the Achilles. He's going to get a lot of reps. He's going to get the mentorship of Rodgers,
which was great for Wilson this summer. And so if I did that, I would trade my 2025 first rounder
because of that. That's a it's a different window, right?
Like it's a different window.
I understand Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson and ABT.
They're really, really young.
But this window is different right now.
You got DJ Reed out there.
You got some veterans.
It's a different window.
That's that's why that's why I kind of entertain it.
Oh, it's very entertaining.
Like it's not like hang up the phone but it does make sense for you
to say hey we were probably already looking at quarterback in some capacity anyways now it's
just accelerated now you know maybe you do go get a Bo Nix a Michael Penix a Shador Sanders a J.J.
McCarthy a Michael Pratt whoever it is and they, you're either in a situation where you're
taking a first round quarterback and allowing them to probably start right away, or you're
letting them sit behind Aaron Rodgers, who's going to have his final year. And I think both
situations probably make a lot of sense for the Jets. We'll unfortunately have the Jets first
round conversation now quite a bit when we go through mock draft exercises and things like that but speaking of first round rookie quarterbacks I did want to review what
the three rookie starters were able to do this past weekend because we had somebody who watched
the what matters most episode and they were like man you guys talked about Anthony Richardson a
little bit you talked about CJ shout a little bit you didn't even touch on Bryce Young because we were too busy kind of talking about the Falcons
and their situation and their outlook.
And so, you know, I thought about it.
I was like, hey, we could do a deeper dive into all three of these guys.
So, Connor, I'll let you choose who you want to start with.
Let's dig into Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, CJ Stroud a little bit more
from what you saw from their first starts? I'm going to start with Bryce Young, who ironically got the lowest grade
as a passer out of these three guys in the PFF system. Is the picks is he is the picks?
Right. Of course. I mean, he had it. I'm looking at he had a thirty eight point three passing
grade. He had two interceptions. Richardson only had one cj stroud didn't have any and i'll say this i think i
liked the tape better than i expected i watched this game as much as i could of it uh this 1 p.m
window was chaos trying to keep up with all the games so the tape always you know we were having
the show earlier in the week it was kind of you know real skyview reactions and then you get to
go to the tape and it really painted the picture of this game number one right out of the gate and it's just where they
are i'm not like crapping on them i think they they need time carolina doesn't have explosive
playmaking they just don't i mean they don't have it on the outside adam theolin is i mean surprise
banged up again right this is how it's been for adam theolin at the end of the minnesota tenure
and it's carried over to Carolina.
Incredible player that his body's probably breaking down as he gets older.
I mean, Bryce, to put it in perspective,
Bryce Young was looking at Hayden Hurst all the time
because that was his best option in this game.
Yeah.
The stat line, 20-38 on 42 dropbacks.
He throws from one touchdown, two picks.
Those two picks were the only two turnover-worthy plays,
so he didn't have any, you know, he didn't gain a ton of luck right there.
It's not like he had five turnover-worthy plays.
He was sacked twice, which was the least amount of the other guys.
He was sacked the least out of the other guys.
He only threw two screens,
which was half as much as the other two guys that threw four.
So Carolina, I mean, they had a dropback game working with Bryce.
And yes, there was some quick game here, but it was a dropback game. He was asked to be a full
field reader, hang in the pocket, and he made some tough throws. He really, really did. And
Jesse Bates got him twice. Jesse Bates is paid a gazillion dollars a year because he's going to
get you. He's an incredible player on the back end that has ball hawking. He takes away the football.
That's why he got paid the way he did. And Bryce Young, I think Trevor, this was the classic learning example of how tighter
and how quicker windows close at the NFL level.
Because when he was loading up on those picks, you can see it.
But man, is the play speed of an NFL secondary much, much different.
And I'll say this.
After one of the picks,
he bounced back and led the touchdown drive.
I said, you know what?
This dude is resilient.
He doesn't look overwhelmed.
He doesn't look scared.
He's not working with much at all.
He's really, really not.
He isn't being asked to run.
Bryce Young was asked to do a hell of a lot more
than freaking Desmond Ritter was asked to do in this game.
And Desmond Ritter was a four-year starter in college and had a year in the NFL already. I know he was on the bench for a lot of a lot more than frigging Desmond Ritter was asked to do in this game. And Desmond Ritter was a four-year starter in college
and had a year in the NFL already.
I know he was on the bench for a lot of it,
and I know Atlanta won big,
so Desmond Ritter didn't have to drop back and throw the ball around the yard.
But what Bryce Young is being asked,
he will come out better from this, Trevor.
That was my takeaway.
I thought he looked the part despite the stat line being pretty ugly,
and I have a lot of confidence in this kid after watching the tape I agree with what a lot of what you said I I love
that we both wrote down specifically boy NFL safeties are a lot faster than college safeties
because that is that is literally something that I wrote down um Jesse Bates is one of the best in
the NFL but in my best dad joke voice,
the dude should change his last name to B-A-I-T-S,
as that's how you spell Bates, because, I mean, he truly does that, man.
He's an artist at baiting the quarterback, and especially when it's rookies,
he's feasting on some of those guys.
I watch both of those interceptions to Jesse Bates, and they're both very similar.
They're kind of like, it's like an in slash post route kind of depending
on how terence marshall was reading it reading the defense at the time and the very first play
of the game they run a concept where there is i believe three wide receiver options to Bryce Young's left. And there's at least one to his right.
And it was Terrace Marshall.
And he, Bryce Young, hiked the ball, looked to his left.
But you could kind of tell, like, yeah, he's looking that way.
But he's not really analyzing it.
He was trying to manipulate where the safety was going because he immediately turned around.
And the second he turned his shoulders back to the middle of the field,
Terrace Marshall's hitting the break of his in route,
and he is firing the ball right in there.
And Bates was just a second late on that very first throw that he had of the game.
Bates saw that exact, well, I don't want to say exact look,
because it did come out of a different formation,
but a very similar look and a very similar route the second time around. And that
time he was ready. He was staring at Young the entire time. And when Terrace Marshall shoulders
turned, Bates put his foot in the ground and immediately started running right over the middle.
And he met the ball right there before Terrace Marshall could get to it. And so, but it was the
same exact mannerisms from Bryce Young. It was he looked left, he looked left.
I think he tried to manipulate and almost make it look like
he was looking at two different targets to his left.
But you could tell those shoulders popped very quick,
and he was immediately into his throw.
He knew exactly where he was going to go the entire time,
and it was always going to be that middle of the field route,
the Terrace Marshall.
Bates just missed it the first time.
But if you do it twice in a row to Jesse Bates,'s too damn good and he's gonna get you and I think Bryce
Young learned a very valuable lesson about NFL safeties this past weekend um I thought the
touchdown throw was sick I love the fact that it was a little uh RPO play action look and and this
the second he realized that Hayden Hurst had the leverage that he needed, he fired it from a very open hip platform,
and he was able to just zip it right in there.
Perfect ball placement.
I thought the ball placement was really nice.
All game long, you are right.
Bryce Young was required to do a lot more in this game than Desmond Ritter,
who ended up getting the win as the opposing quarterback.
I'm a little surprised that his passing grade was as low as it is,
but it is because of those turnovers and PFF's grading scale is grading every quarterback in the NFL.
They're not saying, here's his passing grade for a rookie making his first start.
You know, there's not that context to it. They've got to grade Bryce Young the same way from a data standpoint
that you're grading Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or whoever it is, these guys are playing at the
top. So all things considered, I thought Bryce Young had a really nice first game. Obviously,
they don't come up with a win, but I echo a lot of the same things that you said. It was a really
nice learning day from him.
And I think those big time throws will come.
He was still not afraid to throw
in the middle of the field.
The ball placement was pretty nice for the most part.
And you mentioned he bounced back
after that interception or lead a touchdown drive.
Bryce Young's always going to bounce back, man.
That's been who he is his entire career.
And I don't think that's going to change in the NFL.
That's the resiliency of him
and the smarts the quick release like you you could find what you wanted to in that game to
know okay Bryce Young he's he's going to be the same guy he was in college and it might take some
time it's going to take some team building that's number one thing I can't walk can't state enough
throughout this podcast it's going to take team building and it's going to take learning up against the greats of once again,
just how rapidly things,
things quickly close at the NFL level,
which I think probably takes us to Anthony Richardson,
right?
Because he was the other quarterback with a turnover amongst the three
rookie starters.
Although a different one,
Richardson's going to play a different brand of football than Bryson
Stroud.
And it was,
you know,
I was really glad that I watched the tape on these three consecutively
because it was fascinating to see what they were asked to do, the kind of coaching they're
getting in the different play styles.
Richardson, a big bodied, deep arm kind of passer that can run, that can evade sacks,
that is so naturally strong, but does not have the rhythm, quick-release touch throwing
that Bryce possesses, but has this...
He has extraordinary physical capabilities
that just show up on a football field.
We said this, Trevor, it's cliche, and we said it earlier in the week,
but the man looks the part when he gets hit,
or when he gets hit and it doesn't really phase him.
The plays he can make with his legs,
they ran a little RPO.
I'd like to see them run more RPO.
The tackles he can break
and some of the velocity he can throw with.
Now, he threw a little high at times in this game.
He got bailed out sometimes.
Sometimes he didn't.
He was another guy that didn't always see those defenders lurking underneath and closing in. But Richardson
and Steichen, to me, is a perfect match of what Steichen is going to trust him to do,
how Steichen is going to get him comfortable, and when Steichen is going to hold up the green light
and say, all right, kid, go trust yourself and make an extraordinary play.
So Richardson, I think already looks further ahead than many expected because he was so raw coming out. And I think there's for once again, a team with not an overwhelming amount of talent,
Michael Pittman helps is a little bit of a difference, but not a ton of talent. He was
pressured plenty. I thought Richardson looked the part. Yeah. yeah uh arm talent for days right i think that was
that was very evident right off the top um i really liked richardson's initial game and and
i know he had the turnover and the accuracy is he it's still work in progress when i i say this
with my scouting hat on we all want the quarterback who has the strongest arm in the world.
But the stronger the arm, the more accurate you have to be.
Because when you're climbing the miles per hour with the ball
and how fast it's flying, you just have to be naturally more accurate.
Or that at least has to come
through repetition because it just gets more dangerous.
The more juice you're putting on a throat.
So with Richardson,
that certainly he was certainly growing still in that area of Florida.
And that was the root of a lot of accuracy issues that he had there.
But I'll say this really love the way he navigated the pocket under
pressure.
Yeah.
This is somebody who has all
the athletic ability in the world with his legs who you would not blame him at all if the second
he felt pressure he was dropping eight nine steps back in the pocket and he was trying to madden
2004 michael vickett right where you just go oh free rusher okay i'm gonna bail 15 yards backwards
and then beat you to the sideline and launch it 30 yards down the field
because he has the ability to do that.
But he didn't.
He stood there.
His fundamentals stayed clean.
Loved his footwork in this game, especially when he was bouncing,
just bouncing, very subtly bouncing around and letting pressure
just barely go by him, keeping his eyes downfield.
That was awesome to see.
Loved that pocket presence from Anthony Richardson. I think it's an underrated part of who he is as a player now i will say this
i think shane steichen is clearly trying to ease richardson into all this a lot of half field reads
in this game a lot of concepts that were multi-leveled going to one side of the field sale concepts double outs up and outs
things where he was able to look one side of the field and you can tell shane steichen and i think
this goes back to uf as well they'll tell him hey if the safety comes down this is where you throw
the ball hey if the cornerback retreats this is where you throw the ball and he's
got one key read on a multi-layered concept and that's where the ball is going that interception
and i'll tell you this the jags knew it was coming because the jags played very tight coverage to the
sidelines all game long with multiple players they knew knew the half field reads, the rollouts.
They knew that stuff was going to come from Richardson
and they had the bodies at the sideline to be ready for it.
The interception is a perfect example of it.
It was a variation of a sale concept,
which for everybody out there,
a sale concept is there's three levels to the throw
that are at one side of the field.
Now, you can kind of like vary
how you're manipulating the coverage, but the thought process is you're trying to overload one side of
the field with more receiving options than the defense has guys to cover it and you're basically
reading okay you've got a vertical route you've got a deeper intermediate route and you probably
got something either out of the backfield or a very quick out route so it's like multi-layered stuff and you figure out which one's going to be more open at the time when you're
looking over in that direction to release the ball Tyson Campbell baits the absolute hell out of him
and Campbell starts to creep down on the player who is has most shallow route. And then the second Richardson loads up,
Campbell flips the hips, stops on a dime,
immediately retreats and cuts off the ball
to the intermediate route
where Richardson was throwing the ball.
You pointed out Tyson Campbell
was a big time standout player
this past weekend for the Jags.
And you are absolutely right.
He was a stud all game long.
And especially on that play,
you could tell they went into that week and worked on it.
And unfortunately, Richardson's just not at the point
where he can make these full field reads.
And as long as he is a half field read kind of a quarterback,
defenses are going to be able to key on
where he's going to look.
And they're going to be able to overload that side of the line scrimmage with coverage.
So the real next step for him is to hit those backside digs
or to look in the other direction and find a different player,
give a guy who's maybe in a one-on-one a chance down the opposite sideline or shoot,
maybe even take off that direction himself.
So when he gets to that point, when we open up the field a little bit more for Richardson,
that's when things are going to start to get dangerous for teams having to try to cover
not just his throwing ability, but his ability with his legs, too.
That's exactly right.
You'll make him throw in the middle of the field and be accurate in the middle of the
field.
That's a great call out by you, Trevor, the sideline stuff and how a defense can combat
that, because obviously, if you're working those half field concepts,
you know,
you're essentially running flood or whatever it may be to one side and you
have level defenders or layers of defenders in that you're going to have to
attack a different part of the field.
And that's when I think you're going to have to get the run game going up
the middle of the quarterback draws with him.
Fingers crossed for Richardson,
the Jonathan Taylor comes back after the short-term IR stint,
because that would help it. That would help in my opinion opinion keep defenders loaded in the box in the middle of the field
and make life easier for him as well.
Which takes us to our final rookie quarterback who made his NFL debut in C.J. Stroud.
All these guys had rollercoaster games.
There's no way around it.
But Stroud was able to avoid the big mistake.
Now, he did have two turnover-worthy plays,
and one of them, when he was rolling out and kind of dancing up the sideline
and just kind of floated the ball up for grabs,
was he definitely could have threw an interception in this game.
But outside of that, Trevor, four of his passes were dropped.
He was sacked quite a bit.
I believe he was sacked five times in this game.
But at the same time with Stroud,
I saw him drive some throws to the sideline
with incredible accuracy and incredible rhythm
and what you want to see from him.
And Bobby Sloic wanted to get the screen game going,
understandably, for Stroud because that's, you know,
listen, Sloic comes from the Kyle Shanahan tree.
They want to get the ball out of Stroud's hands and let some of these guys
make plays with the ball in their hands and kind of get him comfortable.
That's what you do for the young quarterbacks.
But when Stroud was asked to truly drop back and rip the ball outside the
numbers,
and we had a little Robert Woods revival in this game as a possession threat,
I was really impressed in that capacity with Stroud.
And I shouldn't say impressed because it's something we saw him do such a good job of in college.
But the guy Stroud was in college really translated to this game in a sense that
when you have Stroud drop back and you keep him clean,
he can carve you up in the 10 to 19 kind of area of the field.
And he was somebody that had 20.
He had three 20 plus yard passes in this game.
He had some explosive plays with his arm.
But as we said on the earlier show, Trevor, it could be tough to evaluate him at time.
The Texans are dealing with multiple injuries on the offensive line.
So sometimes he was pressured really after he blinked and caught the snap.
Right.
And then there's a fact of they have
capable players in this offense but they don't have somebody that truly strikes fear in you
in this offense that strata somebody and we saw it in this game he will throw the ball down the
field and let his guys make a play i look at this offense i don't know if the guy exists
to consistently do that i know i agree with you 100 i i feel like
he is not going to have the resources around him to really put up the stats that you want
what you want to see is growth from what we saw in game one which was the most important part i'm
glad you you called it out at the very beginning not having turnover worthy plays first three
dropbacks from cj stroud okay i noted this very First three dropbacks from CJ Stroud, okay?
I noted this.
Very first three dropbacks in his first series.
Five-man blitz, heavy simulated pressure into a four-man front,
and then another five-man blitz.
Mike McDonald's formula was very simple to start this thing out.
We're going to overwhelm their offensive line.
They don't have the bodies to be able to block him,
and we're going to make this their offensive line they don't have the bodies to be able to block him and we're going to make this this rookie quarterback's life a living hell by pressuring him
especially at the beginning of the game we're going to their thought process was we were going
to blitz the hell out of him in his first series and we're going to make him see ghosts the rest
of the game i felt like he may have seen ghosts a little bit but not as much as you maybe would
have thought especially for two years ago,
CJ Stroud at Ohio State. So that makes me think that the growth is really happening for him.
Kind of go back to our first podcast of the week where I said, as long as he survives this year,
I think they'll know that they've got a guy that they can potentially invest their franchise in.
I thought it was really impressive that he was still not afraid to go over the middle of the
field. A lot of his really nice throws were middle of the field throws where there was a lot
of traffic and a lot of congestion. You mentioned sometimes, man, when he throws to the sideline,
he's got a beautiful comeback ball that he could hit to those guys in great rhythm. I think that
rhythm stuff will come, but that's probably going to be year two, year three stuff for him.
All in all, really liked what i saw from stroud in week
one it's not nearly as bad as like the low pff grade passing grade would lead you to believe
everything's kind of in context here and that's why we wanted to break down the performances of
all three of those guys so it was great to watch the tape on them no doubt not to cut you off i
mean it's just yeah i just i thought it you're
right like the grade system obviously is very very useful but i also think you're exactly right
that these are guys making their nfl if their first starts in the nfl and all three of them
aren't really they're not going out there throwing aj brown and you know jamar chase and justin
jefferson so right overall i if i was a fan of all three of
like any of those three teams i would feel i wouldn't be you know i was never hitting the
panic button but i would actually feel confident of the way these guys look poised yep i would
agree i'm very encouraged by them we each have three non-quarterback rookies who impressed us
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connor who's the first uh of your three rookies that you want to shout out from the non-quarterback
category this past weekend listen we i'll get deeper into the weeds throughout the season but
i gotta start at the top and just go with Will Anderson, right? I mean, the guy deserves the spotlight here and get a good game. He had a great game and this trade was
highly criticized and scrutinized. And I understand it was a lot to give up and we might look back on
it and go, man, that's one of the most fascinating trades in NFL history. Will Anderson, though,
look, played his ass off against the run. He made big plays as a pass rusher.
He had a quarterback hit on Lamar Jackson that led to an interception.
He had a sack that he won on the outside.
I mean, he played with the strong hands we saw in college.
He fought through guys even holding on to him.
If you're the Texans, and listen, D'Amico Ryans is going to build this defense as we've seen from that tree, right?
You think of the Niners, they have Nick Bosa and he's kind of the engine to that attacking front four.
You look at the Jets and they signed Carl Lawson to really give that defense a shot in the arm to get them afloat while they were going to develop, you know, a first round pick in Jermaine Johnson.
Bryce Huff was a surprise, so I won't act like that. But Will McDonald, another first round pick.
It's based on the front four. D'Amico Ryans comes from the same tree. And he's like, I need guys
that can rush and I need an absolute dude that stands out amongst all. And Will Anderson game
one. I mean, this is who Will Anderson is. He dominated in college for a couple of years.
He goes to the NFL. He looks the part right away against that Ravens front. This is going to be
somebody that you can lean on, somebody that you could tap into for double digit sacks. But Trevor,
I loved how strong and how powerful and how high the effort was against the run as well,
because that means he doesn't have to come off the field. These, this scheme rotates a lot, but Will is just that dude that you can lean on.
D'Amico is a great coach for him.
You pass rushers take a while to blossom.
They don't typically blossom in those first two years compared to other
positions in terms of stat production.
Will Anderson's a good one,
man.
I loved everything I saw from him in this game.
It was the same player we saw dominated Alabama,
just on an NFL field.
I was just about to say it was Will Anderson.
I was like, oh, my God, who is this?
No, no, but he was exactly Will Anderson.
I think both the strengths and the weaknesses.
But for us to say that the strengths were just as much of a standout and still there's parts of his game that he's still learning.
But that's what happened in game one.
You love that because that means that they're not overwhelmed.
It means that they don't have to attack getting better on two different fronts,
making weaknesses stronger, but also trying to make sure that you stand out
in the areas that you stood out in in college.
Will Anderson, strong as an ox, great leverage, great speed to power,
good explosiveness off the line
of scrimmage. I thought the push-pull move was very imposing, no matter who he was going up
against. Again, that speed to power bull rush I thought was once again very effective this time
at the NFL level. He still needs to develop the pass rush moves. If he's not push-pulling you,
if he's not straight up bull rushing
you back in the lap of the quarterback he kind of struggled to get off of blocks and that was
that was i watched his film and then i went back and i read my scouting report of him word for
word and it was basically the same thing but again that's that's not bad because you're already
seeing the strengths of what we saw in college show up at the NFL level.
So now it's just a matter of time before he gets more pass rush moves,
before he becomes more comfortable with that. So I love that shout out.
I'll stay on the defensive line for my first one, brother.
Keanu Benton was great.
It was great. I mean,
Cam Hayward is going to miss time for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
He has a groin injury that I believe is going to require surgery. So Benton played maybe a little
bit more than they thought he was going to after Hayward went out. And he's going to play a lot
more than they thought he was going to probably early on in his rookie career, because he's
probably going to be a starter next week. And so far, so good for this dude. 86.2 overall grade, 72.0 run defense grade, and then an 82.9 pass rush grade.
When this dude maintains pad level, I mean, he's a starting caliber defensive lineman in the NFL already.
We saw flashes of that against the 49ers.
He's a good football team.
They're good in the trenches.
The hands were fast. He was able to football team. They're good in the trenches. I mean, he,
the hands were fast.
He was able to swim,
move a bunch of different guys.
There are a couple of times when San Francisco,
cause they like to move their offensive lineman.
They were trying to reach block him.
He's like,
Nope,
we're not doing that.
He'd swim by him immediately,
get into the backfield,
force either the quarterback or the running back to veer from their course.
And it's just,
you watch the snap by snap
plays of him and he's already so impactful especially as a run defender man the guy just
does not lose those kinds of reps so Benton it was it was again it was it was a lot of the
brilliance that stood out from his Wisconsin tape we saw it at the NFL level against the freaking
San Francisco 49ers this past weekend so not ready to crown the guy as defensive rookie of the year yet but damn nobody can very few teams
in the nfl can afford to lose a guy like cam hayward oh yeah they're like him keanu benton's
not going to be cam hayward but the floor of how they're replacing him, I think is a lot better than most
rookies that you would ever draft, especially outside of the first round. So great start for
Benton. Loved what I saw from him. I love that because watching Benton, who was a multi-year
starter in college and played multiple alignments really well, right? There was, when you think a
team guy, Benton was somebody in college that if there was games where Wisconsin
was like, listen, dude, you got to play shade nose. You're going to have to eat a lot of space.
You're going to do a lot of dirty work. It's going to be a long day. He'd do it. And then
when they put him at three tack and go, Hey, big boy, pin those ears back and get after it. He'd
do it. And we got to see that as a senior bowl where I was like, this dude's pass rush ability
is severely underrated. So the fact to see that kind of
impact and we loved that pick from the Steelers right away we love the Steelers draft and it goes
to show you as you're all your line gets you know even a legend like Cam Hayward as you get older
in certain areas restocking is so vital and that's something the Steelers as a franchise have done
decade after decade they've been able to restock in areas that they age out a little bit so i'm excited to continue to watch him and staying within that division man zay flowers
like i'm not going to sit here and pretend i was high man on zay flowers he wasn't my wide receiver
one or wide receiver two but zay flowers has fallen into a place with the coach and todd munkin
that understands how to maximize zay flowers he's a special talent with the ball in his hands.
You look at Zay Flowers debut, 10 targets, five of them were screens, Trevor, five of
them.
That says to me, this is a team that drafted him with a plan.
They drafted him with a plan.
They needed somebody that is a threat with the ball in his hands.
And how do we get him going early?
And how do we make life a little easier for Lamar Jackson when he's not having his best day and
it's no surprise with Zay he's somebody that when the ball is in his hands and he's in space
it's exciting it's special he catches nine of those 10 targets like I said five of them were
screens but he had 54 yards after the catch, 34 after contact.
Five of those catches went for first downs.
Four of them were explosive plays, 15 plus yards, and he forced four missed tackles.
It's just nice when you have a quarterback friendly player.
I'm not saying Lamar Jackson needs the training wheels, but every quarterback should want
a quarterback friendly player, somebody that you can draw up extensions of the run game to as a wide
receiver, but also play the position.
So Patrick Mahomes had a quarterback friendly player and Tyree kill and
Travis Kelsey.
You think he feels bad about it?
All the greats do.
It's they don't give a shit.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So Zay flowers um listen i love todd munkin and i know you you've covered
a team that had todd munkin on the staff you know him even better than i do i just think he's a dude
that gets it when it comes to personnel and what we want to do as a football team on offense
whenever i've been around todd munkin i mean the the theme is simple he wants to put the ball in
his best player's hands.
That's it.
I mean, for Tampa, that was a lot of two tight end stuff when they had OJ Howard and Cam
Brate.
Obviously, they had Mike Evans as well.
But, you know, when they weren't throwing it to Mike Evans, they were getting a lot
of two tight end stuff and they were running very heavy and it was helping out their run
game and it was helping out play action.
And when it comes to this Baltimore team, they've got a lot of electric players in the
passing game and certainly getting the ball in Zay Flowers' hands very quickly.
A player who, you know, when we scouted him, when anybody scouted him,
he just moves differently.
The man just moves differently.
I think that Todd Munkin absolutely sees that,
and he's going to try to shine a light on it like we saw this past weekend.
I'm going to stick it receiver.
Brother, Puka Nakua.
Puka Nakua. Rams wr1 hell yeah new cooper cup no i'm just kidding but seriously
take the floor brother he had a puka nakua had a 40.5 wide receiver usage percentage
40.5 obviously if cooper cup plays in this game like that's cooper cup it's
not puka nakua but still for cup to not be in this game or for and for them to just go yeah
nakua you're just gonna get the lion's share of everything 15 targets 10 catches 119 receiving
yards 80 receiving grade i mean that is off to this young man i what it is it's so funny because
some people uh hit us up during the draft process last year and they were like hey what do you think
about puka nakua what do you think about him he's been a really productive dude uh at byu i was not
the biggest fan of his because i just didn't see an elite athlete. I didn't see a great,
I didn't see a great separator.
He had,
he's somebody who had experienced both inside and out could play on the
outside,
could play in the slot,
very savvy dude,
pretty physical guy.
But I just felt like he really struggled to separate and create separation
windows in college,
whether that was with long speed,
whether that was with flexibility,
whether that was with agility or whether it was with agility, or whether it was with his route running.
He was a well-rounded wide receiver.
But unfortunately, if the best thing that you have going for you
is somebody saying, yeah, he's just a good, well-rounded receiver,
chances are you're pretty dang replaceable when you get to the NFL level.
And that's why he ended up falling in the draft.
But it's so funny because
what I just said as a, as a compliment, that's a little bit of a backhanded compliment
was exactly the compliment. They used him as this past weekend. They aligned him on the outside.
They aligned him in the slot. They put him in, in places where they said, Hey, Nakua, if they are, if they have outside leverage on you,
we want you to go in. If they've got inside leverage on you, we want you to go out,
create these subtle things. And Matthew Stafford's going to get you the damn football. And he went,
okay. And the separation windows, especially when he was up against really close coverage,
we're not, it's not like he was separating super well. It's not like he turned into this different receiver, but he's smart. He's savvy. He was reliable when they threw him
the football and he really understood how to find those soft spots in zone coverage. Now it helped
because Seattle's defensive line stinks. I mean, they cannot get pressure. They were the second
lowest graded pass rush team that we had in the NFL this past weekend.
They were bottom five in total pressures.
They were bottom five in pass rush win rate as a team overall.
So they had to throw extra bodies at the line of scrimmage just to try to get some pressure
on Matthew Stafford.
And when Stafford felt pressure was coming, Nakua was there, man.
Nakua felt it.
He was the guy that they consistently went to.
My hat is off to him.
You know, sometimes those smart, savvy receivers can be really productive ones,
especially on weeks like we saw last week with the Los Angeles Rams.
Shout out to him.
That's awesome.
I feel like I'm the meme of like, you know, what I sleep on versus what you sleep on.
And like what I sleep on for other people's the bed.
And what I sleep on is Pooka Nakula.
It's Pooka Nakula.
Yeah.
I haven't blown away and shout out to Tutu Atwell,
man.
We've,
we've had our jokes on this pod.
Tutu Atwell had a,
had a big game for the Rams.
Get a five deep targets in that game.
Hey,
listen,
don't sleep on the Rams.
New wide receiver,
one and two duo out there.
It's a, isn't that amazing
though what Sean McVay can do it is amazing not just Sean McVay man but Stafford was so amazing
good Stafford was so good that this past week he really was when that guy's fully healthy he's uh
one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
That's, that's, I really do believe that.
He's a, he's, he is a top 10 quarterback when he is fully healthy.
He put that on display this past weekend.
So I can't believe we're doing this,
but we are going back to back Rams
on a draft podcast about draft picks,
about rookies.
I'm going with Kobe Turner.
Wait, Rams draft class didn't suck though.
Didn't we kind of like it?
No, we did, but they don't draft.
Like this was the first year they were like, okay,
we're actually going to participate in the draft.
We're going to send our scouts on the road.
We actually like less need.
Yeah, we're not going to.
We never get to see it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're not going to rent a Malibu house and just party for the three days of
the draft.
Why does slobs work?
Like the Rams are actually.
Could do both.
Proud participants of the NFL draft now and the
rewards they are reaping the rewards early here because they need to turn this roster over with
young affordable talent and Puka Nakua huge contributor week one Kobe Turner huge contributor
week one Kobe Turner the road the road for Kobe Turner is so fascinating to me, right? I believe,
I mean, I don't believe he was kind of overlooked throughout the draft process,
was not invited to the combine. He was not invited to the combine. Bad. He was not a
decisionable. Bad decision. Kobe Turner was a shrine guy that was not invited to the NFL combine. Then you watch the tape, or at least I, I,
I turned on the tape a little late and I'm like,
what am I missing with Kobe Turner?
Kobe Turner ends up being my 84th overall player in the draft,
which is almost unprecedented for a guy that was not at the combine and was
not at the senior bowl. Where do I have him uh i know you liked him i just
i i am 79 so we had you liked him more than me well i barely like yeah we saw the same 79 and
84 it's the same to say yeah we podcast together quite a bit the rams take him 89th overall and i
remember the reaction was it's a guy that didn't get invited to the combine 89th overall third
round i'm sitting there like no this dude i can't
believe a guy went where he should have went when nobody i thought cared about him and then there's
kobe turner out there week one on a rams defense that is you know kind of thin in terms of name
recognition and trevor he's the same dude that just plays his ass off he goes 100 miles an hour
against the run he's got effort as a pass rus rusher that he had a sack in this game.
Love it.
The run defense, the ability to line him up on the interior,
whether it's shade nose or three tech or whatever you need of him
and him being able to handle it despite being under 300 pounds.
He looks great in this game.
And that's how you rebuild the defensive line with these guys that have
scratched and clawed for everything that are overlooked in the draft for
reasons unknown.
I mean,
Kobe Turner,
once again,
a guy that transferred from Richmond to wake forest.
I compared him to Larry Ogunjobi,
an undersized interior defensive lineman that plays stronger than his,
his physical
presence.
And we saw it right away for the Rams.
He comes up big with the sack, but he also got his nose dirty against the run.
And if the Rams are getting contributions from these guys, third round picks, day three
picks, they're going to turn that thing over with Sean McVay.
And I can't believe I'm saying that when the state of the roster was in.
I agree with you, man.
It was very nice to see the rams actually
have some draft picks and it was great to see that we liked a rams draft class so uh already
seeing some early return on investments great probably because the roster sucked and there's
now you know playing time to be had but shout out to the guys who are obviously making plays.
So last guy that I want to give a nod to is it's a little bit of a Homer pick here,
but deserves a recognition.
Christian Eisen for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Go off.
This was an undrafted free agent from Rutgers.
He was a safety slash nickel player at Rutgers,
ends up going undrafted.
He wins the CB3 job in camp now it's not like he
was you know dethroning somebody who was an incumbent and and and there and solidified like
that job was up for grabs but this dude won it and he won it confidently and you saw that this past
week in their win over the Minnesota Vikings he was was the line in the slot most of the time.
29 snaps in the slot.
Two is now wide corner.
Two is a strong safety.
75.2 overall grade.
81.2 coverage grade.
Allowed one catch on the day to K.J. Osborne,
who was his responsibility for most of the day.
I think he got Justin Jefferson once in assignment,
and the ball didn't get thrown his way. He got Jordan Addison
like three, four or five times, but it was mainly KJ Osborne. He had him shut down. He gave up one
catch near the very end of the game to KJ Osborne, but he also ripped an interception from KJ
Osborne, like right at the goal line, which gave him his first interception of his career, obviously.
And just played with a ton of confidence, man.
He was always there to be a good run defender.
He'll want the Alexander Madison tackle back.
The Madison ended up breaking that tackle,
staying on his feet and scoring.
That was right close to the goal line.
But he was still fearless trying to go after him
and try to bring him down.
It was just Madison stayed on his feet
and was able to break the tackle.
And it was kind of just a, hey, you know, know good job by him but there was another play at the goal line
that he defended incredibly well just for an undrafted rookie you've heard me say this on
this podcast i think corner is the toughest position to play in the nfl other than quarterback
yeah that gets multiplied i I think, even further
when you were a rookie,
trying to do that for the first time.
Undrafted free agent, playing in the NFL,
starting week one,
and I thought the dude held his own.
It was an incredible find by them,
and I think that they're going to be just...
A lot of people were worried when Todd Bowles said,
hey, we're going to use Antoine Winfield Jr.
as a free safety this year. We're not going to use Antoine Winfield Jr. as a free safety
this year. We're not going to use him as that hybrid slot defender kind of a player that we
have the last couple of years. We want him to be our free safety. We want him to roam
the full deep field or the deep half, whatever it's going to be.
So they really needed somebody to step up and Eisen absolutely did. So a big shout out to him.
Dude, no doubt. If there's something Todd Bowles knows,
it's playing DB.
I mean, this is a Super Bowl winning DB.
He's coached a lot of incredible talents and drafted a lot of incredible talents at DBs.
And it's cool when you find one in the UDFA process.
And yeah, I'm watching that game.
Dude popped on tape for a rookie corner,
an undrafted rookie corner.
He popped on not just tape on broadcast.
I was like, I don't even remember going through him through going uh evaluating him that much through the
draft i didn't i was trying to think i was like you start going deep in the ranks and notes
it always blows my mind trevor i think it's a good thing to close on we we do this the whole
year round there's you know you count the industry how many people really do and that number is
growing by the year which is really cool it shows you where the draft is at but yeah you and i do
this podcast about the draft year round you are the lead nfl draft analyst for pff which has a
mock simulator that is as deep as it gets i'm doing more written work now for the draft for nbc
and there's still guys that sneak through and make a team. And then they're out there week one,
starting making game changing plays.
And you know,
we didn't get to watch them during the draft process.
We're certainly going to have a lot of fun evaluating them when they get to
the NFL and they start making plays like Christian Eisen does.
So y'all let us know your thoughts on what you saw from this rookie class in
week one.
Talk to us about the quarterbacks,
Bryce Young,
Anthony Richardson,
CJ Stroud.
Let us know what you thought about our analysis of those guys,
what you guys saw out there in those rookies making their first start.
And then give us some guys that maybe you want to give a shout-out to
that we didn't give a shout-out to here on the show.
We'll be revisiting this and doing some rookie reviews.
If you like the segment, if you all love this,
we will try to get it into our weekly segments as much as possible.
Maybe a little bit more of a condensed version because we do want to talk about a lot of these college football prospects.
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Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here?
Yeah, I got one final shout- out to go out on the pod.
Shout out to Jack's American Pub that absolutely fleeced tons and tons of people watching Monday
night football.
So Jack's American Pub had a deal that if the Jets lose while the Packers are not playing,
so the Jets need to be playing when the Packers aren't.
Obviously, Monday night football counts. Packers are not playing. So the Jets need to be playing when the Packers aren't. Obviously, Monday Night Football counts.
Packers weren't playing Monday night.
If the Jets lose when you open your tab during that game, if the Jets lose, your tab is free.
The entire bar.
The Jets just need to lose and you don't pay a tab.
So Jack's Pub also Bush League move, but whatever.
I don't know why anybody in I think it's a Milwaukee baseball or wherever it is,
somewhere near Wisconsin.
I don't know why anybody would have anything against Aaron Rodgers.
Have I ever got to root for a quarterback of Aaron Rodgers?
And I didn't.
He lasted four plays, by the way.
I haven't gotten to yet.
I would be so grateful for everything he did for the franchise.
Different conversation for a different day.
I get why some Packers fans are a little bitter about it,
but a bar being bitter about it.
So he gets hurt and this bar is packed people are getting after it there's high noons
everywhere uh no white claws whatever whatever so he gets hurt and the bar cheers which whether
it was about the injury or whether it was about their tabs being free a lot of people think so a
lot of people think it was because they thought their tabs are going to be free so he gets hurt he leaves the game and everybody starts getting really after it and shout out to aj uh
buy it poor he was the reporter that was on the scene for cbs 58 milwaukee on the scene during
this brave soul people are getting fired up they're ordering their tabs they're getting
hammered for jet spills because they think Zach Wilson and the Jets are going to get smoked when Aaron Rodgers leaves this game. And those suckers had to put down
their credit cards at the end of the night when Xavier Gibson walked their ass off to win the
game. Jack's American Pub, you get the shout out because for the shittiest promotion ever,
you fleeced what looked like 100 hundred people that were probably pissed off
hammered and had an awful tuesday hangover they had a worse tuesday morning than me
shout out to them and this man woke up on the streets of new york yeah with no quarterback
that is what a phenomenal way to end the podcast i can't end it any better than that
folks the next time that you hear from us it will will be Monday night. We're back on our regular
schedule next week, so it'll be
Monday night at 9.30.
This is kind of like an emergency pod, so actually
as we are recording, I'm not sure when it's going to
come out. We're recording this Tuesday night, by the way,
just because it's kind of been a wild
week in a lot of ways. So whether this comes out
Tuesday night or on Wednesday, the next time you'll hear
from us is Monday at 9.30.
That schedule is going to be Monday at 9.30 then Wednesday at 930 for most of the season.
That's what we're going to try to stick to.
So let us know your thoughts on this rookie class.
Let us know your thoughts on that incredible bar story and anything else that is coming
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