NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 197. 2024 NFL Draft Mock Draft (After Week 4 of NFL)

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers bring you a new mock draft one quarter of the way through the 2023 NFL season. They used the current draft order as it stands today to run through an entire first round mock with plenty of names to get to know.

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast in this episode it is a brand new mock draft quarter of the way through the college football and NFL season so we're starting to see the draft order shape up some team needs creep up so we get to discuss those and we get to talk about some prospects that we think are really on the rise guys that are worth first round picks at this

point in time now the order is the new order one fourth the way through the season four games into this nfl year this is the order if the draft were to happen this weekend so don't yell at us for where your favorite team is picking we're going off of what's happening right now i'm trevor sycamore with me as always is is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sycamore. That is Connor Rogers. Joining you guys on a Monday where we're not doing what matters most, or maybe we are, depending on how you look at things. We're bringing back Mock Draft Monday.

It's Mock Draft Monday time, folks. We had to do it. You know, it was a little bit split. I saw some people saying, you know, you got to talk about what matters most from this past weekend. And honestly, there were a lot of things to talk about that we could probably get into later in the week. But it's a draft podcast, baby.

We got to give the people what they came here for. And that is that, that sweet, sweet 2024 NFL draft knowledge. Connor, how are we feeling today, my friend? I'm a good man. If anyone's mad that we're not doing what matters most blame the addicts nation addicts nation voted for the mock draft. It was honestly, it was pretty dang close to 50 50 50 i was trying to keep an eye on it and i was like i saw like one comment that was like what matters most in all caps and then the comment literally underneath it was

gotta have a mock draft it's just like i was like all right i guess we can't win or lose here but i think you were two wolves exactly exactly pick uh pick a red pill blue pill right yeah yeah that's what it was that's the meme of picking which one we're gonna do today so listen what matters most isn't going away for good we will cover this nfl season plenty and to be quite honest a mock draft this time of year continues our coverage of the nfl season because i think tre Trevor the last since we've last had this discussion a lot has changed honestly it's a lot has changed and some things haven't at all so this is basically like what matters most for the teams that are not doing very well right now it's just yeah in the form of a mock draft I was I was itching to get to some updated team needs for for teams anyway right we've talked about the updated order over the last couple of weeks but this is the best way to kind of talk about it all you know of course we

are what eight months away from the draft actually happening so the order is going to change the team needs are going to change all that but this format is something that one a lot of people really love and two it allows us to talk about team needs and talk about where teams are going and things like that. So we're firing up the PFF mock draft simulator. You guys can do that as well. Go over to pff.com, click on the little NFL draft tab, and you can run your own first round mock, which we would love to hear from you

after we go through ours. I just wrote one that's over on pff.com. So if you want to check one out that is just me in written form, you could do that. But here on this show, you know, we got to go back and forth. It's flavor. It's a 50-50 mock. So Connor will take odds or evens.

And then I will take the other one. We'll kind of be able to go back and forth a little bit, which is interesting for this year's mock. Because there's a lot of teams that have a couple of first round picks. So, buddy, do you want to do odds or evens? I will spoil it by telling you no matter which one you choose we will be picking for the same team because the chicago bears somehow own picks one and two a quarter of the way through the season talk about

things so i wrote a mock draft before the season for NBC Sports. You've written mock drafts. Obviously, you're the lead draft analyst for PFF. All people like us in this industry had the Arizona, Arizona scenario on the table. And now, a month into the season, it is now the Chicago, Chicago scenario. It is really crazy how things change. Obviously, that is because the Bears own the Panthers pick. So as we sit here today, I don't want to say it doesn't matter because I think whoever has number one is going to do the same thing.

And I guess it doesn't matter necessarily at two. Oh, man, this is pretty tricky. But if we were doing a mock draft, say this mock draft was in March or April where you and I are known to cause a ruckus with some trades, I think it would be really, really interesting. interesting but obviously we're at the time of year where we're just making the picks because there's so much movement the next couple months so Trevor I will truly I could go I guess I'll take the second pick I want I'll give you the chalk because I want to talk through with you their options at number two okay all right that makes

sense so if you guys are following along at home uh like i said you can uh go into the pff mock draft simulator which i also threw some extra players into the pff big board so we should have four rounds unlocked that you can do you can go all the way up to four rounds if you would like to so all the um the order is updated for a quarter of the way through the season so you guys can do that we're only going to go through a first round mock here, but like Connor said, we like to push the envelope a little bit.

We'd like to get ahead of the curve. So we'll start to do mocks with trades and we'll start to do, you know, two round mocks, hopefully sooner than some other outlets do, because we know you guys are, are Jones and for it, but look, we do it to him.

If we, we absolutely do. He's about to do it. He did it. A number, number one, overall, look, there's no other way around this i don't care if you think hey justin fields is in a really bad situation in chicago things haven't worked out it hasn't been his fault if you believe which i maybe still believe a little bit that justin fields if he gets out of chicago maybe it does get better for him

somewhere else but certainly if they're picking number one overall it ain't gonna be in chicago he's gonna be out i wonder if ibrahim is gonna be out as well uh i think probably the only one that's still around is ryan poles if uh if they pick number one overall and even poles it sucks because like every gm is going to have their misses but when you really cannot jump start a rebuild those misses get a lot more glaring and is that unfair sure i think it's a little bit unfair but anyways if they're picking a number one overall it's usc quarterback caleb williams um this is the easy selection him going number one they will not be trading the number one overall pick again if they if this happens to happen they're going to imagine they just keep doing this uh they won't do that though yeah and caleb is the you know obviously consensus qb1 right now i think there'll be some interesting conversations

closer to the draft because i do think drake may is viewed in that kind of light but caleb's been phenomenal and we'll get into all these guys in a much deeper level over these next couple months. But that brings me to number two, which is the Bears picking for the Panthers because they did trade the number one pick last year. Now they have their new franchise quarterback in this scenario. And Trevor, I'm kind of fascinated in this spot because the chalk pick would be to take Marvin Harrison Jr.

Right. I do think if this was actual, like the draft was today, the chalk pick would be to take Marvin Harrison Jr. Right. I do think if this was actual, like the draft was today, you probably trade this pick because you probably wouldn't have to move that far back. There'll be a team in the top five that needs to get to two that loves Drake May that much. I really believe that,

which is great for the Bears. They wouldn't have to move out of the top five and they could still get more assets because this roster in my opinion is still not very good but then the player conversation to me is between Olu Fashanu and Marvin Harrison Jr right I mean that's and honestly the Bears are a weird one on the offensive line because quite frankly I think their line's been bad but they've also been hurt. Yeah. Where, how do you evaluate that?

Like, is that part of the problem? And Darnell Wright is a right tackle that you just took in the first round. So you could still take Fashanu. You're hoping that, obviously, like, Tevin's a good interior offensive lineman, but before you make the pick, I mean, I agree with your back and forth in your head completely you know it's i don't think this is easy no it's definitely it's it's not as easy as just saying like oh yeah marvin harrison jr because

sure you want to give him the offensive weapon but if you just go off of kind of like a scarcity principle or a capitalist exercise. Marvin Harrison is extremely talented. I'm not trying to downplay that. But you can get a good wide receiver. Like you can get good wide receivers a lot. If you really think that Olufosano is a franchise type of, at least second contract, very, very good left tackle prospect who he's been one of the best pass-protecting left tackles

in all of college football over the last couple of years. How often do you get the chance to pick that kind of a player? I would tell you probably less often than you'd certainly get to pick even a wide receiver one. If you believe Harrison is truly rare, which you can, and I would not fight you on it. I got no problem taking the receiver at two here but it's it is more of a conversation than I think people are

willing to admit exactly I'm gonna take Fashanu here because my argument is if the Bears are picking at 33 and this is why my ideal is to trade this pick so I can just get everything that I want yeah I think I can get a really good viable wide receiver to play with the very talented DJ Moore at another point of this draft and I'm not convinced I'm I love this tackle class but I'm not convinced I'm getting a Fashanu anywhere else in this draft so I'm going to take Fashanu and if I'm Ryan Poles I can stand on that I have the franchise quarterback I drafted and I drafted both of his tackles on each side. And that's the foundation of our team.

You could argue three areas that have been a tremendous weakness for Chicago's franchise now for a while here. And it's a really good offensive tackle class too, right? I mean, yes, we just made the argument on the flip side for maybe why you pass in a receiver because you don't often get to take an offensive tackle but i think when you start to talk about the trade down scenario joe alt from notre dame's also having a phenomenal year oh yeah he is right so you look at the guy the the teams that are right now picking

just below chicago to your point you got the raiders you got the broncos you got the minnesota vikings you got the new england patriots you know you certainly you got the arizona cardinals depending on what what they're going to do a quarterback if they're sticking with kyle murray for a long time okay fine but i'm just throwing that that one out there you got three or four teams easy that would all trade up the number two and would still keep you in the top 10 maybe you have your cake and eat it too maybe you trade back and like you say you get extra weapons you get extra first round picks you get joe alt as well all right you're going for shanu

here so i get it i took for shanu but i do i i am excited to kind of go through these scenarios and um we're gonna do certainly once we kind of know what the order is going to be more solidified like uh we can get into those like trade potential shows number three is pretty easy the raiders are picking a three drake may still here i'm taking drake may you know i think that is the player that would be so alluring for anybody to trade up to number two overall um and with him sitting here for the for the raiders i mean they just to me absolutely have to pull the trigger on getting a quarterback so easy one here with drake may i'm with you i think the raiders would be jumping for joy if they got

drake may that might even be able to calm you know demonta adams frustrations down a little bit i tell you what though i'm not attaching drake made a josh mcdaniels that's an absolutely hell no yeah you and i have talked about that obviously the second that they have the money to do so we think mcdaniels is gone i mean and boy do you have options right i mean when you look at some of the coordinators that might be up for head coaching jobs now you know the raiders got to do some convincing because it just hasn't gone well there but can you get a Ben Johnson oh I was gonna say Ben Johnson with Drake May it's beautiful with Devontae Adams and Jacoby Myers and I I know he's had a slow start to his career but I think Michael Mayer is gonna be a really good player like sure oh yeah they have a lot to work with there so that

that's an exciting pick at three and then the the Broncos at four. All right. So this one for me, I would have taken Drake May if he was here. Would you? Yes. No, but no. But like I said, that wasn't even like a troll question. Yeah, I would have. What do you do? I know.

That's why I was being. What do you do with Russ's contract? That's why like people might be listening to me like, duh, you're going to. That's not necessarily right. You have. Well, there's a couple of things with mock drafts this time time of year we make sometimes we make picks this time of year that we just want to make sometimes we make picks that we think the team could make there is no one convincing me sean payton likes russell wilson at all i don't think sean payton likes really

anyone on the broncos that he inherited including like the entire organization the way he speaks to the media but you're right looking at russ's contract i mean it's it's quite frankly kids it's an abomination it's an abomination for another like three years yeah but we don't the good thing is i don't have to worry about that because in this scenario, I'm taking Marvin Harrison Jr. So yeah, that's sick. Yeah, yeah. If you're Sean Payton, like. I don't care if you don't like Russell Wilson or whatever it is,

and Russ has been better this year. He's been better. And I know some people might be listening. Go, how are you taking a wide receiver for a defense that is they could be historically bad. I still don't know how we got there. When I look at that defense on paper, I'll watch a lot more of them this week because they play the Jets as we get ready for pregame.

But I just can't pass up the talent at this spot. This is a classic. I'm picking at four. My team stinks. I have an offensive coach. I'm trying to squeeze out the most out of an aging quarterback. I'm going to take one of the best players in the draft.

Sometimes it really is that simple, in my opinion, at what I consider now a premium position. Yeah. I mean, I agree with you 100%. I think that we look at Denver and maybe this is just me, but I wonder if people out there think the same way. When I think of the Denver Broncos, I think of a good receiving core. I'm like, oh, yeah, they're good to go.

Because in my head, patrick's healthy jerry judy is supposed to be a lot more productive than he has but neither of them are true and court and patrick's never healthy and i feel like that good son's like a uh uh like a for sure talent of a wide receiver one and like sometimes he is but even that right can feel unreliable. So, and like you just mentioned, the first two, it's not constants. So I think that, yeah, that's the right pick. Going with Marvin Harris Jr. is the right pick. Him and Mims and Sutton as my 11 personnel next year, I'd be really excited about that.

And maybe people are, what do you do? Like you could trade somebody. You could trade somebody. I think you can too. Right. I agree. Minnesota Vikings up on the clock now at number five. So this one's tough, right?

This is where things start to get a little spicy because this is where doing a mock draft exercise is different than a big board. In my written mock draft for PFF.com, I have them taking michigan quarterback jj mccarthy and i think i'm going to do that again here and i want people to know that that's not necessarily based off my quarterback rankings it's just a feel that i have when people when i've heard people talk about him from like league perspectives it just seems like the NFL is a lot higher than J.J. McCarthy or sorry a lot higher on J.J. McCarthy already whereas I am still of the mindset of like okay he's getting there but we're crowning him pretty early I think I love the arm talent I feel like he's got the ability to make all the throws as the cliche says he's certainly

getting better under pressure this year, and it doesn't always have to look perfect. You know, people look at that Bowling Green game and they go, well, what about the Bowling Green game? Okay, shoot, man. You can point to some bad Drake May games where he's had some boneheaded, turnover-worthy plays, right? It doesn't always have to look perfect for you to like a guy.

But this is a hard exercise for Minnesota at five with May and Williams off the board. Because if they're picking at five, we know damn well Kirk Cousins isn't there anymore. We know that the roster will not be at a point to where it makes sense to go after a free agent quarterback. They're going to draft one. They're going to draft one in the top five. So who do they go with? In my mock, I went McCarthy. If I'm sticking to my true big board, I would go Bo Nix.

Do you think I should stick to the big board? Do you think I should stick to the board here, early October mock? Yeah, I think so. Maybe I should. Maybe I should just do that. It's also pick your spot. There's going to be spots in this mock draft that I really like. I really like a player, and I really like the fit with the player and I'm

going to go with it. And there's going to be spots where I'm like, I'm not as hot on this player as the consensus, but I know he's going to go. So I want to stay true to the mock. So I'll, I'll lean a little bit more towards I'll stick to my ranking, stick to my guns a little bit here.

We'll go Bo Nix at five. People are going to blow up about Bo Nix going five in a mock i say five baby hey man it's uh if if you would have told me that this would have been the case two years ago um i'd have told you to get out of town to kick rocks uh but it's he's not the same quarterback that he was when he was at auburn he's completely different now he is a true rpo type of dual threat quarterback who could really hurt you with his arm and his legs. He's got legit NFL arm talent. He takes care of the ball a lot better over the last two years than he ever has in his career at Auburn.

And he can really push the ball deep down the field with some really sweet NFL throws towards the sideline. And Troy Franklin can certainly be the guy to tell you that firsthand. So really great last two seasons for bonix so i'll go with him with the vikings at number five who just have to pick a quarterback we know that so the jets are on the clock here we go baby why did i pick even this is it why did i do this i didn't look at the order before picking very i did smart very smart man i am okay so in your mock draft,

you had them getting for Shani, which was awesome. By the way, it was awesome. Yeah, you're welcome. There's a lot to unpack here, right? Like if you literally asked me this question before jets chief Sunday night

football, I've been like, you have to take a quarterback here because the jets don't have that quarterback after Aaron Rogers on the roster. They have to capitalize on this class, all that stuff. And I'm not saying I'm buying all into one game, the best game of his career into Zach Wilson.

But I think Zach Wilson deserves to be spared on this mock draft after that performance against the Chiefs. It's halfway that. And then it's half something you said in the mock draft. It's very fair. The Jets are going to be all in in 2024 again. Because Aaron Rodgers is coming back to the team and they are going to operate the way they did this offseason where they're going to go spend money they're going to get veterans they're really going to try to

do as much as they can while they have Rodgers and if that's the case and you look at this roster there's some things you can't go by and And quite often, it's an offensive tackle. And in this scenario, the way the board has fallen, I'm going to take Joe Alt, because you could slice this up a lot of different ways. One, Joe Alt is a top 10 player in this class, and he plays tackle, and that's a need for the Jets. Becton's been back through a month. It's looking solid. We'll see what happens. He's a free agent after the year. They could always franchise him or figure out an extension. If you're not comfortable with that,

then Joe Alts, you're starting left tackle next year. ABT has kicked out to right tackle where he's rock solid. That's maybe being even not giving him enough credit. But if you like ABT at guard, maybe you play ABT back at guard. If you kept Becton, Becton looked good at right tackle.

The point is the Dwayne Brown era is over they need another tackle or they could use another tackle of the future and joe alt is like fashanu a franchise tackle in this draft and i think that's something that aaron rogers would greatly appreciate i agree that's why i gave him pashanu you know pashanu lasting until six is kind of an obvious but in my opinion so is joe hall because i agree you know you and i had this conversation i can't remember if it was last week but it was the quarterback and the jets conversation where you go man you got to look somewhere else you got one more year of Rodgers, you think, and then your progression would tell you if you're going to have a top 10 pick this year, use it on a quarterback, get him in the building, get a top 10 caliber type of a quarterback in the building,

let him sit behind Aaron Rodgers for a full entire season, and then you give him the reins next year. Now, that's still a good scenario, and if they wanted to do that, I wouldn't hate but you got a super bowl win window man i i feel as though you owe it to yourself to just be as all in on the super bowl window as you possibly can be it's tough to win one of these things and especially when you're not going all it is especially if you don't have tom brady as you have said to me before. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, I want to hear your point,

but if you draft a quarterback in the top 10, you are simply hoping that you are doing the right thing to get to the spot that you are already in to go all in. Yeah. So why not just go all in? I agree. Right. I mean,

yes. One, I don't think the jets will be picking this high and I'm, that's not bias or me being blind to it. I think, I think the defense now, once again, if Zach Wilson implodes again,

yes, they can pick this high, but the way the team was built top six pick who knows. Yeah. Crazier things have happened, but the point is you can really run it back next year and if you take a tackle like that's still a building block for the future it's not like hey we took this tackle because aaron rogers needed help it's like

no that dude should be there when you're next you gotta get back you gotta get back you don't rent them right exactly. Exactly. He goes back to the draft. That's the rules. All right. That was fun. Okay. So the Patriots are up at seven. Good luck.

Well, I gave them, I gave them a quarterback. So I gave them Bo in my mock draft. Yeah. It's obviously off the board. i think the patriots would like him bonix is absolutely an upgrade over mac jones if you ask me max just not playing well i mean it seemed like you got benches past weekend and that's not even talking about like the weird antics it's like brother like come on man like it's just i don't know i i've i i feel as though Max Time is doing a starting quarterback is not going to be something after this year. Especially if they're picking in the top 10.

I mean, they're insane if they run it back. Right. So do they go with a quarterback here? If they do, true to my board would be Penix i think yes i think panics is next to my board i think it's more likely that the nfl would draft jj mccarthy at this point in time at seven but there's also a lot of really good receivers on the board and they definitely need receivers now if you say to yourself, Oh, like who are you going to,

who's going to throw him the ball? I don't know at this point, but I just, Connor, I, for as much as you and I like Michael Pennix, I don't think, I just don't know if he's going top 10,

man. I don't, I don't, I really don't like if I was making the pick, it would be for me, but I agree with you as you sit here today. I don't expect him to go top 10 right now as we're doing the mock draft. And it's not, it doesn't align with our opinion.

Like you said, he's your next quarterback. I've had him as QB three since summer and he hasn't moved. But yeah, I think top 10 would be surprising at this point. Dude's got a Howard's urban arm. I mean, he's got insane arm talent. Not as much of a dual threat guy even as what he used to be certainly before all the knee injuries he's going to fail a lot of teams medical is they're not going to draft them because of all of the injuries that he's had um especially the

lower body the footwork is is is not always consistent with him and because of it you see some lack of ball placement i would say accuracy general accuracy is normally pretty good and i think you see that from the adjusted completion percentage scores with him but ball placement i would say accuracy general accuracy is normally pretty good and i think you see that from the adjusted completion percentage scores of him but ball placement is something that's even more precise and sometimes the footwork isn't where exactly where it needs to be sometimes you can see he's like throwing with all upper body and he's not you know mirroring it with his footwork in his lower body and sometimes that can yield to some misfires and some things to clean up. But, hey, you know what? We're in a theme here.

I'll stick with the board. I'm going to go with Michael Penix here. Again, I don't think that Mac Jones is going to be the quarterback for New England a year from now. And so if they're picking top 10, I'm giving him quarterback. I'm going Michael Penix. He's the next guy on our board at quarterback. And the talent warrants it.

We understand that this is going to be an interesting draft process for pennix there's going to be varying opinions but you go by what you feel and i mean we we love the talent and i think i do think it went too far this summer you know we were really high on him we are really high on him i don't know why he was written off that's what i don't understand like when i always sure like when he like when i like jokingly tweet or even sometimes very seriously talk about it i don't know why penix is looked at as this day three throwaway it's like nobody watched him last year at minimum he's a day two traits guy at a minimum he's a day two traits guy yeah now maybe the medical maybe the medical does set a different floor because that happens with players

every year in the draft right it's day three and your favorite prospect that you thought was going in the second round is there around six like maybe it's a medical but yeah it's the conversation around pennex is gonna be fast i feel like people do punish him for having odunze and polk and it's ridiculous like people they like they kind of punish him for it they do punish him and they say he never gets touched because the o-line sacks are also a quarterback stat by the way so yeah that's that's a weird way around talking about it and i think that what we're seeing right now is a quarterback that just has a ton of confidence in the environment that they're in. Did you see how Arizona was playing them Saturday?

Now, I understand if you didn't because the game was probably on it. No, this is a game that I do have to go back and watch. And obviously, Arizona-Washington. It's not a priority game for the weekend. The only reason I ask that is Arizona was literally, like, rushing two. I was going to say, did they drop 10? And they had a safety on the all 22 off the screen. He's sitting on Mars.

And I was like, damn, that's how you know your offense is respected. The old Mars coverage. It looks like he's returning a punt. It looked like he was back there to return a punt. That's arm strength, baby. That's fear. That is fear. That's when you know you got him.

It was very funny. Very funny. All right, the Bengals are up at eight. And man, it's been a tough. Have I drafted only quarterbacks? I think so. You took Caleb, Drake, May, Bo, Nixon, Michael Penix. and man it's been a tough only quarterbacks i think so you took calif drake made both nixon michael pennix you can have the cardinals take mccarthy next if you want all right so the bengals

at eight oh man the bengals i i don't even know what's going on with them this year i mean burrows hurt that much is the obvious they're an interesting one in the spot i am i a madman for doing this i'm taking brock bowers you're not you. Am I a madman for doing this? I'm taking Brock Bowers. You're not only a madman. You're correct. I mean, this dude. This is the pick.

This is the pick. This is the pick, right? This is the pick for the Bengals. Especially if they're not bringing back T. Higgins, which I'm not saying that that's like a for sure. I'm not. This is a nice solution, though, if you can't financially. 100%. Here's the reality with the bangles and maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm wrong and i'm sure bangles fans will kind of poke

holes in this and you're probably right but my thought is like t again should want to be paid like a number one wide receiver jamar chase needs to be paid like the best wide receiver in football because that's how this works maybe you can allocate your cap that way, but it's not easy. When you're paying a top quarterback, it's not easy. So, and also just Brock Bowers, even if you find a way to make that work,

and then you add Brock Bowers. Yeah, he's sick. He's sick. This is it. I think that this is, I think this is the right pick for the Bengals. Especially with Fashano and Alt not there. If those two were there,

you think about it, you upgrade the O-line. But yeah, with Higgins potentially out the door, obviously Tyra Boyd's getting up there in age. Jamar, the offense is going to run through Jamar, but like,

dude, two of the most, shoot, you throw Joe Burrow in there. It's three of the most dominant sec players that we've seen over the last five years uh jamar chase joe burrow and brock bowers they're on the same team in the nfl that's good living a good living number nine all right obviously what quarterback am i picking here arizona cardinals no okay so the respect josh dobbs like you said

well yeah gotta put it gotta put respect Josh Dobbs respecters uh guy rules he does so you mentioned at the beginning of the show um when we were doing the early portions of this exercise we had Arizona picking one and two and now here they are they're picking nine and 13 because Houston Houston's playing a lot better man there's so many different ways the Cardinals could go uh for as much as they are playing a lot better. Man, there's so many different ways the Cardinals could go. For as much as they are playing a lot better, a lot more competitive, they need a lot of talent. I would say especially along the defensive side of the football. I recently redid my big boards, shuffled up my rankings a little bit,

did a little quarter season big board update, and I have Latu Latu from UCLA as my number one edge rusher right now. I have him above jared verse the man just he wins so effortlessly man so effortlessly whether it's from a two-point stance a three-point stance the guy is six foot five 265 pounds so he checks the size box of what you want from a versatile edge player in today's nfl and the guys he goes up against offensive linemen they'll just try to get get hands on him and he's not even looking at him he's looking in the back field and he's just just from his peripheral vision just swiping the hands away completely

disregarding the player and he's like now this is just what I do you're not staying in front of me it's not gonna happen he's too smooth he's too strong he's too fast he's too quick like all of these things great combination player we've talked about it before he had the neck injury that almost made him well it did make him medically retire from the game of football while he was at washington transferred to ucla they clear him to play and um now i mean obviously he's been a full participant over the last couple of years and he's sick he's he is i feel like i'm overusing that phrase here in this in this mock draft but this class is really good. Laatu Latu, to me, is the best edge rusher among them.

He's been awesome. When we stumbled upon him this summer, you and I kind of looked at each other like, who the hell and how? Right. He has not only kept that momentum, but it's gone upwards significantly. Really another guy that will go through a similar process of Jalen Phillips.

The questions would be like, okay, he had to medically retire at one point. Why couldn't Washington clear him? And are we okay? Unfortunately, I feel like he's going to fail a decent amount of medicals for NFL teams. I hope he doesn't. Yeah, same. Because he's so good. There's going to be a lot of teams that look

at him and the neck injury and they'll be like okay we just can't draft him at all so he won't be on that's just how like some people listening you know to kind of pull the curtain here some teams with first round guaranteed money just they just don't do it like they have doctors on staff that are like i can't clear this kid for you and for teams they're like, I can't clear this kid for you. And for teams, they're like, OK, we can't take him. Like for us, it's a more emotional because like this dude's awesome. Yeah. And I hope I hope lots is all good. And that goes well.

And I hope he ends up being a top 10 pick because he's playing like a top 10 pick. Yep. The Giants at 10. Man. The Giants. So they paid Daniel Jones. So you don't really look here and go, okay, they're going to take their next quarterback.

And Jones is adding up and down start to the year, but he's their guy. So you get that out of the way. They need another wide receiver. And we've had that conversation for them before. There's some good ones. There's some good ones on board. There are.

And ultimately, that's where I'm going to lean. The thing, you know what sucks here, Trevorvor and i hope this changes the next couple months of the season i'm starting to not panic but the worry meter is up a little on evan neal and k von tibideau right now and that if you're the giants like you're jo Shane. Man, did I love those picks. Me too. I love the thought process. I like the players a lot. I didn't think they were finished products or anything,

but man, I really like the approach that Joe Shane had when he drafted those players. Yeah, a lot of people did. And the Neal one, somebody asked me the other day. I was a Giants fan, and they were like, what are you seeing that's wrong with Evan Neal? Because he was billed as this guy that had such a high floor. And it is fascinating. It goes to show you that, and tackles can take a while. Like the Giants went through this in a different scale with Andrew Thomas. Andrew Thomas had a bad rookie season, and then he turned into

one of the best tackles in the league. But Evan Neal's year two, and you're just looking around, and you're like, man, what's going on here? So I'm not going to look at those spots right now. And I don't think the GM would wave the white flag that early on those guys. But it is a conversation that could come up again in a couple of months when we're close to real draft season for the Giants. In this scenario, the pick is easy for me. It's Malik neighbors neighbors and there's a lot of good wide receivers i know you really like him trevor yeah um i like the explosive nature of neighbors in this offense that darren waller not going to be there forever they got jalen hyatt but they need more explosive pass catchers for daniel jones this offense does not challenge the field vertically they don't

scare you especially when saquon barkley is hurt, which is unfortunately very, very often. So I'm looking at neighbors and thinking the Giants, they need a guy that threatens all levels of the defense. To me, it's your flip. Just flip a coin between neighbors and Coleman. I mean, they're both going to be productive for you. They're a little bit different receivers. Like you said, I think that neighbors is skinnier, but more explosive. He's, he's more smooth. He's got more speed to him,

but Coleman is a hell of an athlete is six, four, two or 15 pounds anyway. So if you want a different type of receiver than the guys that you have in your receiver room, more of a contested catch guy, you go with Coleman, but right.

I think neighbors can be wide receiver one at the NFL level. So really you're just flipping a coin. I'm going to get to my pick. My pick's next to the Green Bay Packers. But before I do that, this fall time of year, it's all about the back to school, the back to work, the checklist, the routine, okay? But the most important part on that checklist or routine should be securing your family's financial future, starting with life insurance.

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life insurance company, not available in certain states. Price is subject to underwriting and health questions. So my mock that I wrote for PFF.com, I gave Green Bay Packers an offensive tackle. And I went with the guy who I think the NFL is going to be a little bit higher on than the player who is necessarily next on my board. And that was Amarius Mims from from Georgia who just the potential through the roof, man, six foot seven, 340 pounds. I mean, the guy looks like he's built in the lab, sitting at right tackle for Georgia. Now he hasn't played a ton this year because he's been going through an

injury. So I wouldn't say that it's like a big stock up stock down from him. It's kind of status quo, whatever you thought of him in the preseason is probably what you got to think of him right now and the league is going to gravitate towards him just because he is a crazy big athlete we've seen that so many times before with offensive tackles next offensive tackle for me and who would it be I think technically on this list it would be Barton, but I recently moved Barton to interior as an interior player. Cause I think that that's probably where he's going to end up in the NFL,

just from looking at like Ray Sean Slater's measurements and Elijah Vera Tucker's measurements, Peter Skowronski's measurements, things like that guys that have had those questions going into the league. I think that Barton's probably going to get viewed as an interior offensive lineman. Still a damn good football player. Still having my top 25. But as much as I'd give him a chance to tackle,

I don't know if the league's going to. So I'll go with J.C. Latham here from Alabama because he would be next on my board when it comes to offensive tackles. And I do just think that certainly with Bakhtiari situation, they need another offensive lineman in there. You know, they need somebody that's going to be able to play tackle Bakhtiari has missed too much time over the last couple of years. And I just don't think you can rely on him anymore. Hell of a player,

but I, I don't know how much longer he's going to be playing in green Bay. I really don't. So for rely on him anymore. Hell of a player, but I don't know how much longer he's going to be playing in Green Bay. I really don't. So for this one, a little bit of projection, but I'll go Latham here to give him another offensive tackle. Yeah, it's a shame with Bakhtiari because it just feels like since he signed that extension, guy can't catch a break, right?

I mean, he can't catch it. It's really like, it felt like a total gamble if he was going to be able to play. One game two years ago, 11 games last year, and now he's out of the lineup again. It just sucks. It does suck. So I totally get your thought process there,

and I'm sure it's something the Packers are thinking, the long-term Jordan Love. All right, the Saints are on the clock here. The Saints have a lot of young talent on offense at the skill spots they have kept some of their um front seven talent under extension i know granderson just got yeah you got an extension the never-ending career of cameron jordan rolls on there i need to watch is brazee been playing this year i have not watched brazee yeah i need to see brazee i've seen him a little bit i can't speak to well you know actually i can't speak to that hold on um we have the ability i'm gonna look it up now i know where i'm going anyway with this

pick but i i like talking through the rosters um of course a little little bit. They've invested plenty into that front seven. DeMauro Davis is still an incredible player. Brian Brzee has the 10th most snaps of any player on the defense. He's played 124 snaps so far. Okay. I got to catch up on what he's done. Yeah. He has played the third most of all interior defensive linemen for them,

but it's very close. Like Nathan Shepard's played the most at 143. Saunders has played the most at 132, and Brzee's played 124. So it's basically just a three-man rotation in the middle for them, with Malcolm Roach being the next guy in. Okay, I got to catch up and see what Brzee's been doing.

So for the Saints here, I'm looking at corner right now. Get another talented corner on this roster and you got a lot of options here that's the thing and we've run into this scenario when we've done mocks before you have Kool-Aid you have Kaelin King you have Cooper Dajin I'm oddly intrigued by Dajin because of his versatility that you could play him as this big slot you could just put him outside right next to Tyron Matthews and just have him just soak up every bit of information Tyron Matthews will give him.

Right. Think about how much bigger he is than him. Don't hate it. But I'm going to I'm going to go with Kalen King because he's my favorite corner in this class. And it's a true corner player. Get me all excited for nothing it's fine yeah sorry yeah whatever yeah yeah i'm gonna take kaylin king here him and marshall

latimore pretty dang good corner duo in a division that you got you got plenty of talent you got to stop on the outside in a conference you got plenty of wide receiver talent so the saints also man it's just weird to think the saints picking 12 in this draft but they've had a couple things not go their way especially with derrick car clearly hurt right now oh dude uh cardinals back up at 13 the the easy pick is cool mckintryinstry because he's right there, and they definitely need a corner. I picked Latu Latu for them. Chop Robinson's still here. Chop Robinson's still there.

Do I double up? Do I give them the most productive pass rusher in college football and also the most twitched-up, insane pass rusher in all of college football. It is really fun idea. This is kind of sick. You know what though? And it's not, this is not unrealistic.

Like when you look at their team. Now they did take my guy, Ojalary. Oh yeah, they do have BJ, don't they? They took Ojalary in the second round last year god why is he this far down the depth

chart what is he what are we doing he's like a stand up situational pass rusher though does he play the question of the pod does he play does he play I almost feel like it has to be corner when you look at their roster.

He's only played 45 snaps. He's a bum. I'm kidding. I love BJ Ojalary. All right. Out of respect to Ojalary. Ojalary respecter. I'll hold off on the Chop Robinson pick for one more mock draft.

And I will indeed go Kool-Aid McKintry. This is the last time I don't take Chop Robinson. You're up with the Texans 14. The Texans, man. They are wildly impressive under Bobby Sloak and D'Amico Ryans right now. What they're able to do. It looks like they got their quarterback. I still think they don't have a ton of talent, but they are squeezing out as much from this talent that they have. This is kind of a scrappy wide receiver group. Nico Collins, Tank Dell, Robert Woods. Like, I'm not pressing the panic button on wide receiver here if I feel like I might be able to get wide receiver at another point.

Yeah, Meka Egbuka is there, though. I know. Oh, that is fun. It is fun. Or Keon Coleman. Or Keon Coleman. I guess the thought you could argue is Robert Woods is getting to the end here.

Tank is a very specific kind of player. He's not gonna die it was a great run you don't gotta say like that oh man i i feel like this is the unsexiest pick i could make here and i'm just getting like tomatoes thrown at me on stage i'm taking johnny newton oh you suck i going to take him next. I thought you were saying I suck because like that pick like, no, Johnny Newton is a game wrecker.

Yeah, Tomatoes on stage gets booed off stage. I think the Texans need to be thinking long term on the interior of the D-line. D'Amico knows that. Johnny Newton single-handedly kept Illinois hanging around against Penn State this year. If you watch that game. Single-handedly. It's like nobody Penn State this year. If you watch that game. Single-handedly.

It's like nobody else showed up except him. He's a monster. So, Johnny Newton. Sorry, Charger. That sucks for you. Because, boy, the Chargers could really use him. That was the perfect pick for the Chargers. That was the perfect pick.

Thanks a lot, asshole. Man, I'm going to give the chargers depth chart now okay you can still go into your defensive line it's not exactly the same type of pick but leonard taylor is here from miami who is a monster i mean he has he has an over 26 percent percentage already this year which is pretty nuts um so you can certainly pick him i liked newton specifically for the chargers because he also is a phenomenal run defender as much as he is a good pass rusher taylor is more of that pass rusher and you know he's still um learning to be more stout in run defense

i'm also looking at safety so you're not moving on from derwin James, obviously, but Derwin James is this versatile, strong safety, box defender. I don't know if this is a Loki Gilman erasure, but what about Cam Kinchens and Derwin James? Listen, you're not going to get a fight from me. That's pretty sick. I'm not going to fight you on it. Hold on. No, wait.

No, wait. Cooper. Do you see something? Cooper DeGene's here. And he is. And they JC Jackson signing has been horrendous. An unmitigated disaster. I'm a go Cooper.

Gene. Bigger disaster. The JC Jackson signing or the chase Claypool trade. Choose your own adventure. You don't actually have to pick. Cooper DeGene. Did you take Kinchins? No, I took Cooper DeGene.

I was making jokes and missed the pick. No, I took Cooper DeGene. They need the corner. They need the corner. Okay. Lowey Gilman survives. We're bringing him back. I don't know if we are.

I don't know if we are, but. Erasure. All right. The Jaguars on the clock here. Yeah. This is an offensive line that I think could use some improvement. They're another team that. Oh, yeah.

Oh, man, this is a weird. You know what? I actually know. I know what this is. I'm overthinking this. I'm taking shop Robinson here. I'm worried about the past oh sure right now josh allen's been very good this year um i'm telling you man i just i hate doing this every

time i can't believe trayvon walker was the number one pick in the draft i really i can't believe it but we don't have to go down that road today i'm gonna take sounds like you just did no gloves chop him and josh allen screaming are you drafting the uh the gloves version or the no gloves version no gloves no arm he's wearing gloves this year and i know i would there aren't like we don't do a lot of interviews on this show we don't i would there's probably like three people i'd really like to have on this show right now and chop robinson is absolutely one of them. And I really just want to talk to him and be like,

dude, I just want to talk. No gloves, no sleeves, like just pants, just pants. Think about it. And like, rolled up to make sure you're seeing the quads like pop through,

you know, the smallest Jersey, the equipment guys can make you and pants. That's it. And you'd probably be a top four pick. Well, actually didn't commanders now up at 17. Oh, I like offensive tackle for them. Yeah.

Long term. You see Sam. This is partially largely his own fault. But Sam Howell, I think he's on pace right now to break the Saks record that was set by David Carr. Yeah, I didn't see that specifically, but... I'm just boosting your thought process. No, yeah.

So, I mean, Charles Leno, who has played well over the last couple of years. I haven't, like, totally checked up on him this year, but over the last couple of years, he's been pretty solid. He's still 32 years old. So, we're going to marius mims we we mentioned him a very uniquely built athletically gifted offensive tackle who play has played really well in the limited amount of time that we've already seen him play for georgia so uh yeah we're gonna go with mims here that i think that makes the most sense all right the rams at 18 i'm gonna take verse. I'm going to get them some more pass rush.

OK, the Rams quietly having. A fun season with Puka Nakua being one of the. Best offensive players in the NFL at the moment, but I still think they need to improve on their lines. Both lines.

I think the offensive line looks better than a lot of people thought. There's just not an offensive lineman. I want to take in this spot for them, and i think versus a no-brainer top 20 pick to help their pass rush versus still good man i i like verse a lot i've dropped him a little bit he was my edge one going into the season um now i can't remember if i've got him at edge three or four he's still a top 15 player but i've dropped him a little bit in relation to some of the edge rushers because it hasn't looked exactly the same for him this year last year last year he

looked like a bat out of hell man i mean when he was coming off the line of scrimmage he the that explosiveness that speed to power was imposing dominant it was take over this year it's not quite the same he had a 22.4 passers win percentage last year just a 16.1 passers win percentage this year that's not a bad number certainly by any means and a lot of teams now know who jared verse is and so you game plan for him a little bit better the running backs on that side the tight ends on that side you're trying to make sure that guards know where jared versus as well so that certainly goes into it. But verse, I was talking with Max Chadwick about this.

He said that verse was listed at two 48 last year, and now he's listed at two 60. He does not look like he has that same level of explosiveness that he had last year. And I wonder if he's just a little bit heavy. And I wonder if he's, if he's feeling that like, okay, I might be a little bit stronger, but I if he's if he's feeling that like okay i might be a little

bit stronger but i'm not as explosive off the off the edge and so he might be going through a little bit okay well what's my perfect weight what's my perfect play style kind of a thing so just wanted to have that mini little verse conversation there as you kind of take him at 18 because people might be curious like hey how adverse lasts all the way till 18 you guys love them going into the year he was edge one how do you get this place so that's why he would fall a little bit for me um atlanta falcons at 19 i am gonna go quarterback and i mean i would think i i mean we know ryan tannahill is gonna be the starter on this team in 2024 but i still you to draft a quarterback. Brother, stop. I'm going to go JJ McCarthy here.

We'll go McCarthy. We've talked about him as a potential top 10 pick in this mock just because the NFL is really going to love him. He wouldn't be next. I think Ray Leonard is still next on my board. But yeah, just I think for the sake of mock conversations, I think McCarthy is going to be that next quarterback. And he's going to be in that higher tier of guys who are going to go.

So to keep it a little bit realistic, to give people a more realistic mock, it's not too far away from what the big board says, but we'll go with McCarthy here for Atlanta. Colts at 20 are easy for me. I love what I've seen from Anthony Richardson this year under Shane Steichen. I'm going to take Keon Coleman in this spot, get him a big jump ball wide receiver. Now you got him, Michael pitman josh downs i've

never been the biggest alec pierce guy hopefully they get more out of him soon but he ain't stopping me from drafting keon coleman i'll tell you that right now so this pick is all about helping your young quarterback and keon coleman at 20 might even be some value at this point no i i definitely think that it's value that that makes a ton of sense i got the stealers up next but before we get to those guys we're back with another week of football this week draft king sportsbook keeping us in on the nfl action with great offers every single game day new customers can bet just five dollars and get 200 instantly in bonus bets you just throw down five dollars on any of this week's epic games and you walk away an instant winner plus draft

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Eligibility deposit restrictions do apply. I gave the Steelers a corner. I gave Nate Wiggins in my other mock because I like the thought of Wiggins on one side, JPJ on the other. Man, they need offensive line up. And we got a good one in Graham Barton. He's sitting right here.

So I think I got to go with my guy, Graham Barton. They need center help or they need guard help. He could play either one, in my opinion. He's just going to be a damn good football player for him. So Steelers, we're going to go offensive line here. Thinking about corner, could think about safety, be a pairing with Minka. But ultimately, I think Barton's the best pick.

All right, the Titans are on the clock here. And you want to bring up offensive line once again. This is a team that they really, really need it. They're so interesting to me. right the titans are on the clock here and you want to bring up offensive line once again this is a team that they really really need it they're they're so interesting to me um that's the thing you got to go really down the board to the jordan morgan and patrick paul oh right here here yeah so you you are going to go down a little bit of a tier in this spot which is so tricky it really is because this some people might classify this as a reach I like Jordan Morgan a lot honestly I'm going to take Jordan Morgan here I think he's an NFL tackle

okay I think the Titans need help on this line whether it's Will Levis or Malik Willis next year there is an argument to be made to take Roma Dunze or Emeka Ibuka here. And I totally understand that because Hopkins isn't going to be playing forever. We need a little bit more from Traylon Burks, but I just can't look at this offensive line and think that they don't go back to that well again. So Jordan Morgan, Jordan Morgan for me. Yeah. No Dunze, I think is a better version of, of Traylon Burks, but like if they still believe in Traylon Burks,

then are they going to draft the same player? Maybe they would. I would take Ibuka. Not even close. Right, right. And again, I like Romo Dunze more than I did Traylon Burks. So if you're just simply trying to get the best football player, I got no problem with that.

Would Tennessee do it? Maybe, just because he's the bigger prospect, the bigger, stronger, faster prospect. And we know that Mike Vrabel loves it. But that's kind of the conversation with that. Would Tennessee do it? Maybe just because he's the bigger prospect, the bigger, stronger, faster prospect. And we know that Mike Vrabel loves it, but that's kind of the conversation with wide receiver for Tennessee. Curious if any Titans fans who are watching this have any feelings one way or another,

which way they want their team to lean because it's kind of an interesting one with trench play or skill position players. Seattle 23, you know, they passed on taking Jalen Carter last year. They took Devon Witherspoon. Can't hate on that. It's one of my favorite prospects in the draft.

I think Devon Witherspoon is going to be an absolute stud. He looks good. They still need interior defensive line help. Leonard Taylor is right there for them. This is the guy that you want, and this is the player that can really get a lot of good pressure for you. I think Pete Carroll and his staff are absolutely going to love this player as well. They love those uniquely built athletes.

I mean, who wouldn't love Leonard Taylor? Honestly, that was probably a stupid thing for me to say. He's six foot three, three and a five pounds, former five-star quarterback, former five-star prospect. And the man just moves at a different speed as an interior defensive lineman. Again, it's not quite Jalen Carter level.

It's a dominance, but man, it's looked good over the last couple of years, and you got to think it's only getting better for him. So Leonard Taylor, the interior defensive lineman from Miami, if you don't know him yet, get to know him. He's a lot of fun. He's been dominant so far this season. All right, the Cowboys up here. Cowboys have an incredible front seven.

They can really rush the passer. They, you know, the digs injury really stinks, but you feel good about this, what the secondary looks like on paper. I think they need another wide receiver for the longterm Trevor, like Gallup hasn't been the same guy since being hurt. Cooks is okay at this point, but not a long-term kind of outlook player. I look at Dallas right here, and I think if you want to stretch the field, you can go with a Roman Dunze. If you want more of a technician, you can go with Ibuka, but I love Ibuka's inside outside versatility, but that's CeeDee Lamb. CeeDee Lamb, what's beautiful about him is that inside outside versatility and how they move him around. for me in this spot i'm gonna take roma dunze to dallas and get you know a vertical jump ball size and speed kind of

player for deck oh dunze and cd lamb that's good that's good that is good i love that combo there detroit lions 25 uh what corners we got left nate wiggins probably the pick here Love that combo there. Detroit Lions at 25. What corners we got left? Nate Wiggins probably the pick here. Although he does not really have the run defense chops that I feel. Or man Campbell. Did you call him man Campbell? Man Campbell.

Caffeine Campbell. Shout out to Aaron Glenn, by the way. by the way yeah good job with that group i mean i really think that they'd like i feel like they'd like kamari lassiter i also think that they like josh newton i think lassiter maybe goes in the first round the corner from georgia he's having a really nice year oh man he might be the pick here i i'm tempted by dallas turner because turner's still on the board and he should not be um i'm just gonna be honest there yeah it's a fall for him that doesn't dallas dallas turner can go can can go top 20 i i definitely think that could be the play it can be the case he's playing a lot stronger this year it looks like he's gained some weight

um which we were talking about him in the summer needing to get a little bit stronger. Obviously, the Lions have Aiden Hutchinson, but James Houston's got a really good... What's going on with James Houston? I mean, he's still got a really high pass rush win percentage. He's over 20 still. Are they just not playing him? I know, but he's... I feel like he's not playing.

Wait, he's got 14 pass rush reps. Is he hurt? That's what I'm saying. He's not playing. He's played in two games. So he's got 14 pass rush reps. Is he hurt? That's what I'm saying. He's not playing. He's played in two games. So he's got to be hurt. Even when he was healthy, I wasn't seeing any of them. But yeah.

Yeah, he's definitely hurt. He's on IR. Okay. Okay, okay. I'm going to stick to my board i'm i am gonna i am gonna jump over nate wiggins am i no i'm not actually you know what i fake myself out there we're sticking true to the board and when i say that i mean true to the board and we're going with the next highest corner that we've gotten that's nate wiggins so all right nate wiggins at first you were not uh

tough enough against the run for dan campbell and now now now they're gonna get the most out of a baby now he's taking pride in it now you're walking in the door with a with a bottle of creatine and he's just gonna shotgun it right in front of dan dry no water dry creatine that's how you know it's real don't do that dolphins are on the clock at 26 man they're a weird one here because i feel like they gotta figure out an insurance policy for toronto armstead at some point it's your boy yeah this could be a pat Paul yeah that's what I did in the written mock oh you did I did yeah he kind of makes sense for them yeah yeah I'm gonna go Patrick Paul here Dolphins you got to protect Tua you got to be able to protect those edges and allow all the spacing

that Mike McDaniel creates to really function in this offense. I feel like the Bills, I got to rewatch that game. I feel like the Bills defense just kind of like stunned them a little bit. I thought the front looked really good for the Bills. I think their pass rush has turned it on and they're getting Vaughn back. I think the Dolphins, Patrick Paul, get some youth infusion at tackle. Youth infusion. Youth infusion. Tampa Bay Buccaneers up at number 27 your nfc south leading tampa bay

buccaneers baker mayfield three and one on the season thank you very much winning quarterback not picking a quarterback obviously uh dallas turner is here it's the easiest pick that they could possibly make uh joe trying has not been oh what i what? I thought you were going to take Shadur Sanders. No, no, dude. No. Baker's the future, dude. Seven-year contracts coming up this offseason. I can't take a quarterback with them sitting here at 27

and Baker's playing well. I can't do it. Okay, that's fair enough. And honestly, like, they really need more help on the edge. I think that Jack Barrett is playing well for them. Vita Bay is obviously playing well for them as well. We haven't seen much of Clyde. You can't see at all this season due to injury.

Joe trying to show you, he has not still taken that next step. It's just all so much flashes for him. Logan Hall, the passers win percentage a little bit better this year, but he's not turned into that type of pass rusher. And Dallas Turner is someone that totally different. He is a stand's not turned into that type of pass rusher and dallas turner is someone that totally different he's a stand-up outside linebacker type of pass rusher um and if jts were playing a little bit better maybe i hold this one off but

like i said dallas turner 27 massive value should have gone way harder okay so i got the bills on the clock here the bills are a team that you that could probably use the right tackle in the future. I don't see one in this spot as it stands right now. I think they need to get younger at safety, so I'm going to take Cam Kinchens in this spot. That is the pick for them. I love this. I love this.

Yeah, this might be the best value of the draft that we've had so far. Poirier, he's definitely dealing with something, but he also, since week one, even against the Jets, he just doesn't look like the Jordan Poirier we have come to know. And they're both getting up there in age, right? Guys get old, yeah. Yeah, they get old. Cam Kinch is a beast.

He'd be perfect for this defense. I agree with you. Baltimore Ravens on the clock now they're like running out of players in that front seven i feel like every time yeah no i i think the front sevens it's where my mind immediately goes i think dallas turner would have been great for them even though they have away and and they have right um you know in the written mock i gave them mason smith because he seems like a baltimore raven for being honest i do have chris jenkins ranked higher than him right now.

Me too. All right, we're going to do it. We're going to go true to Chris Jenkins. Look, we're staying true to the board, folks. We got a theme for the podcast. We're staying true to the board. So I think that they could use somebody along the defensive interior, especially somebody who is a monster in run defense like Chris Jenkins is, one of Bruce Feldman's freaks going into the season for a reason because the guy is strong as an ox so you can play him in a

couple of different positions along the defensive interior i think really any any position from a zero technique to a five technique and this guy can really help out holding the line scrimmage so i think the pass rush work could be in the future for him as he is a great athlete as well but man a run defense he's yeah i think he's a plug and play type of a dude so we'll go chris jenkins to help out the defensive interior for baltimore 29 all right for the 49ers at 30 i'm going to take kamari lassiter in this spot get them some corner depth the guy that's been playing like you said trevor he's been playing well this year um i think he's only rising throughout this class since you look at

what he did last year in the summer tape and the Niners, they need the corner depth for the long term future as well. There's not a lot of weaknesses on this team because they are so well coached. I was thinking if it was available, I was going to go with some pass rush depth. I thought about, hey, just take Mason Smith because he's so talented and that scheme kind of fits what he can do as an attacking interior player. But once again, I'd rather just take mason smith because he's so talented and that scheme kind of fits what he can do as an attacking interior player but once again i'd rather just take the corner depth where you can get it and that brings me to lassiter for them okay so we got the chiefs now on the clock at 31 by the way folks it's a terrible time to say this should say this is the beginning of the podcast

we did not make this order up this is the current draft order as it stands today one through the season it blows my mind how people still don't understand like that that's how mocks we should though we should make the order because at least if we're gonna get shit on it at least we're it's we had the fun of saying well we think this team stinks you pick kansas city's yeah i think think the Taylor Swift debacle is going to tank Kansas City, and they're going to pick at one. Yep. Can't get bailed out by the boys in stripes every week. Cool.

He's been saving that one, folks. He's been saving that one up. He made it this far. He deserved to hear it. Congratulations. Mecca Igbuka is still on the board for them, and I think if Mecca Igbuka is going to get 150 targets as a rookie my god how did we allow this to happen we play with the kansas city chiefs so uh congratulations i i gave them ad mitchell on my written mock because

egg buka was was long gone that's just as fun i do love that as well but ad mitchell was a very nice call by you this summer trev you watched the nine targets and you knew that that man had talent. I'm being serious. A.D. Mitchell is my Michael Wilson this year. Yes. Because Michael Wilson's also going the hell off this year. Two touchdown weekend. He'll be a fantasy waiver wire darling this week. Imagine.

Michael Wilson looks great. Imagine. For even a moment. Not listening to the pod. I couldn't. I couldn't. During draft season, never stop listening to the pod. Well, it's always your season.

It's your great counter. Great counter. All right. The Eagles close this thing out. Yeah. Take us home. Oh, man. What to do?

What to do for the. The rich team that has it all. Honestly. I'm going to take one of my faves here. Because there's no point in taking Barrett Carter because the Eagles don't take linebackers early, even though I would like to take Barrett Carter here. Sure. And when you look at their linebacker corps, like, yeah, Barrett Carter would be. Pretty fun there. But I gonna take tyler newman i was gonna say you're gonna you're gonna take

you're gonna take old tyler newman old tyler newman one of my faves ball hawking free safety with range it's a front seven or a front you know a defensive line that they get after the quarterback and force bad decisions newman's ball hawking ability is going to play so well with that. And if you're the Eagles, your roster is so good, you could take a safety in the first round because he warrants it. Yep. I thought about corner a little bit there for the Eagles just because they're banged up.

And, you know, obviously Bradbury and Slay, I don't know how long they're going to be there. So, you know, Josh Newton would have been in that conversation for me. Yeah. TJ Tampa for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's looked really good, man. He's looked really good this year. First, let's go, baby.

Yeah, but we go with Newman. Okay. All right. A little recap for the people who are audio-only listeners and maybe not having this up on their screen on YouTube. First two picks of the draft, both for the Chicago Bears, Caleb Williams and Olufeshanu. Number three, Las Vegas Raiders took Drake

May, the quarterback from North Carolina. Four Denver Broncos took wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. Vikings at five to quarterback Bo Nix. Jets at six, Joe Walt, the offense attack from Notre Dame. Seven, Michael Penix Jr., the quarterback from Washington. Eight, Brock Bowers, the tight end from Georgia going to the Cincinnati

Bengals. Nine, the Arizona Cardinals, one of two defensive selections. They went at number 9 and went Laotulatu, the edge rusher from UCLA. 10, the New York Giants went Malik Nabors, the wide receiver from LSU. The Green Bay Packers at 11, went J.C. Latham, the offensive tackle from Alabama. Saints at 12, Kalen King, the corner from Penn State. The Arizona Cardinals with their second pick here at 13, Kool-Aid McKinstry, the cornerback from Alabama. The Houston Texans at 14. Jerzon Newton, Johnny Newton from Illinois, the interior defensive lineman.

15, Cooper DeGene, the cornerback from Iowa. He went to the Los Angeles Chargers. 16, the Jacksonville Jaguars went Chop Robinson, the edge rusher from Penn State. 17, Amarius Mims, the offensive tackle from Georgia going to the Washington Commanders. 18, for the Los Angeles Rams, Jared Verse, great day to be a great day, and the edge rusher from Florida State. 19, J.J. McCarthy, the quarterback from Michigan, comes off the board for the Atlanta Falcons.

Keon Coleman, the wide receiver from Florida State, goes 20 to the Indianapolis Colts. Graham Barton, the offensive lineman. I don't care what you call him. Tackle, interior offensive lineman, center. He's just a damn good football player. He goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers at 21. Jordan Morgan, the offensive tackle from Arizona to the Titans at 22.

Leonard Taylor, interior defensive lineman from Miami going 23. Seahawks, Romo Dunze. Oh, that was spicy. I love this one. The wide receiver from Washington going to the Dallas Cowboys at 24, 25. Detroit Lions, Nate Wiggins. He's going to become the best run defending corner in the NFL year two. You watch it.

We've never seen improvement like this. You haven't. You haven't. You really haven't. Patrick Paul, the massive offensive tackle from Houston, going to the Miami Dolphins at 26. Dallas Turner, the edge rusher from Bama, going to the Bucs at 27. Cameron Kinchens, safety, going to the Buffalo Bills at 28.

Chris Jenkins, interior defensive lineman from Michigan, to the Rams at 29. Kamari Lassiter, the corner from Georgia, to the Niners at 28. Chris Jenkins, interior defensive lineman from Michigan to the Rams at 29. Kamari Lasseter, the corner from Georgia to the Niners at 30. And Meke Buka, somehow lasting to the Kansas City Chiefs at 31, the wide receiver from Ohio State. And then Tyler Newbin, the safety from Minnesota to the Philadelphia Eagles at number

32. We would love to hear from you guys. Let us know what you thought of the mock, the conversations here, the difference of opinions with players and what teams should do. We love the conversations that these mock drafts get to formulate so youtube.com backslash nfl stock exchange smash like and subscribe get in the comments we would love to hear from you if you're audio only hit us up on twitter and instagram at tampa bay trey at connor j rogers we're getting more responses from people man on instagram and twitter i'm getting a ton of dms i'm getting to

go back and forth with a lot of you guys listening and that is a fun part of draft season ramping up make sure you get in on it as you listen to these podcasts get in on the conversation get in on the draft community so it makes a lot of fun connor you got anything else before we get out of here my man i think that covers it i love doing this obviously we get to talk through the state of the nfl rosters the state of where that prospect stands in the draft. And it's fun for us to look back at these when we get a little closer to, to see how things change. So it was a good time, man,

to kind of drop that mock draft. Well, it's been at least a month since we did one last as well. Yeah. And plenty of updates here. And, and we don't know what we're doing in the midweek yet, but it's guaranteed to be a good time.

It's, it's guaranteed to be banging. In fact, you know what? I won't even plan it at all. Maybe we'll just hit record and see what happens yeah gonna talk for an hour she's gonna talk for an hour it's just gonna be the micropenic i genuinely think we could easily do that oh dude at this point of the year we really could we'll probably be a little bit more structured with that but no matter what it is we're gonna arthur smith good or bad go stop stop 45 minutes later we can't do this no answer

no answer we get an hour into it and they're just like yeah well you know it's uh we should do a pod where we each have a notebook like a notebook notepad with a sharpie and we just write down a topic each and hold it up to the screen the other one has to talk about it for like two minutes. I just see where it goes. This is actually, you might've done something here. I might, I might've did it to him. You might, you might've done something here. We might be doing this on Wednesday.

It's going to be something. It's the most random show we could do that could be the most fun. When we don't really have like a very, very structured show. Cause we just did a structured show for over an hour i'm kind of into it we might be doing this on wednesday folks think about it you'll have to tune in to find out i'm trevor sycamore that is connor rogers thank you guys so much for listening and watching the nfl stock exchange podcast see you guys on wednesday you