NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 2-ROUND POST-COMBINE MOCK DRAFT

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

0:00 - Intro 4:00 - Round 1 1:30:44 - Round 2

Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama, that's Connor Rogers here with you guys for a very, very exciting episode. Connor, this is probably the second most anticipated episode that we have every single year it's the draft grades episode right after the nfl draft is over and then it's the multi-round post combine mock draft and we're here buddy we're about to get it underway how you feeling today i was good until you reminded me of that i i was going to this like oh another show another mock draft and now you're like hey buddy no pressure you better be on it only the second biggest show We do in the year don't fuck this up for everyone else. Oh

Man, what a star I was calm cool and collected. This is really the first You know big piece of work. I've done since I got home for the combine now. I'm sweating I'm like oh god. I'm gonna pick for the Packers twice Great just great. No this is gonna be awesome man. i can't wait this is it's you know it's just everything this is like a fresh coat of paint for a mock draft you just come away with so much info for the combine and obviously you and i want to do a big and go through two rounds instead of one you uh you were sleeping soundly you know you were having a good time you were taking a nap on the couch cold water straight in the face

now mock draft for these teams that's exactly somebody just dragging me by the ankles all the way through the floor yeah it's me yeah it is you it's your fault we don't even know who's picking first great connor was in indianapolis i was in indianapolis we were there for most of the week for the combine and uh we learned a lot. Not just for how these players tested athletically, but certainly the Combine podium sessions as well. Connor got the chance to talk to these guys on the side for

NBC. Getting to know them a little bit more. And it's so much more than that. You get to talk to all sorts of people who cover these teams. You get to talk to people who work for the teams themselves. And this mock draft here is going to be a multi-round what we think will happen mock draft because that's the time of the year we're at of course we give you our rankings and we tell you what we think we what we think of these players but here we are doing this mock draft to tell

you what we think will happen at the end of April. So, Connor. No pressure. Odds are even. I don't know what is more pressure. Because if you pick for the odds, you pick for the Titans at the top. And we're probably going to have a decently lengthy conversation about that. But then at number two, you've got to pick for the Browns, too.

Yeah, there's no easy way out. Both Packers picks are odd numbers by the way just to throw that out there I'll actually take the odds wow look at this guy yeah cold water on his face and he's just and he's ready for battle he draws I need to step up to the plate after like that soft opening from me of just complaining it's it i gotta carry my weight on this show i'll i'll take the odds all right so let's bring up the beautiful pff mock draft simulator uh here it is in all its glory all right so you guys can do mock drafts over at pff.com as well go to pff.com backslash mock if you have a full subscription you can do multi rounds just

like we are doing here on this show uh you can select one team you can select a couple of teams if you're new to this you select all the teams that's obviously what we're going to do here we're going to do two rounds it's this multi-round mock draft because what we want to do is we want to start to build draft strategies we've done a lot of first round mock drafts here on the show and here on this channel but now that we sort of know a lot more about what teams could potentially be thinking uh with these prospects we're going to build out some some draft strategies and obviously we will have some more of these exercises once free agency gets underway but we're gonna do a two-rounder here today connor you said you wanted the odds which means you are up for the tennessee titans

talk to us a little bit about what you might have heard about the Tennessee Titans and then who you'd be picking here well I mean what we keep hearing is that they are looking or at least considering trading this pick which my thought process here Trevor is if you and maybe they don't know yet let's be clear here they have private visits coming up with both quarterbacks in the short term in the near future but if if you loved one of the quarterbacks right now and once again like a lot can change coaches get involved in this late if you loved one of the quarterbacks right now would you be that open to moving the pick when you need a quarterback I don't think so um I don't think so so at the end of the day I think there's a really good chance this pick is moved, but

we're not doing that today. So if they're open to moving the pick, it means they might like other players better. They don't feel the urgency to take a quarterback, and maybe free agency will really give us the breadcrumbs there. I'll go with Abdul Carter, who is in an interesting situation with the stress, stress fracture in the foot. But I think teams just love him as the top player in this draft. I know you and I both have Travis Hunter as the top player in this draft,

but I think for Tennessee here, they think this is a game changing pass rusher. And I would imagine their strategy right now, trying to read the tea leaves is how can we get draft capital and get abdul carter would probably be what they're thinking right and they want to see if they could figure that out and you know would we be shocked if the day comes and they take cam ward no but in this state right now i'd go with abdul carter i would too and the reason why is because you know if you're putting together some clues here,

their VP of football ops earlier this offseason, Chad Brinker, said we won't pass on a generational talent. Like, if we think there's generational talent in this draft, we're not going to pass on them at number one. Just because, you know, I believe he was saying, like, just because we might need a quarterback. Right. Then Mike Borgonzi, their new general manager, was sort of asked, like, hey, do you think there's generational players in this draft class?

And he said, yeah, I think there are a couple. I can't remember the word he used, like a couple, a few, whatever. But he said yes, essentially. I don't think one of those is a quarterback. I think he's talking about two players in particular. He's talking about Abdul Carter and he's talking about Travis Hunter. Makes sense. I think that you

are right your scenario is correct they'd love to have their cake and eat it too and the i don't know about you the loudest rumblings that i heard of teams maybe trying to trade up to number one is the new york giants always always to move up to number one to number one and that would make sense because if that's the case the titans could comfortably move back to three get some extra draft capital know that the giants are moving up for a quarterback and then be guaranteed to get one of travis hunter or abdul carter so that's i think what tennessee is trying to manifest in reality right now we'll see if it ends up happening but i agree with you i think abdul carter is probably the player that they're going after the most especially with them giving

harold landry the ability to look elsewhere for a trade so i like this this is also where i would start anything else on this one before we move on no let's go to two with the browns because now they're in an interesting spot with both quarterbacks here so i'm i'm with you that i don't know how much the nfl really does love these quarterbacks at the top but if i'm gonna be honest with you basically everything that i heard while i was in indianapolis is that this is a one quarterback race that it's cam ward at the very top and that's about it from how people and this is you know other media members you know some people who cover teams all of that it feels as though the gap between cam ward and shadur sanders is bigger than the gap

between shadur sanders and whoever qb3 is going to be which is which is dart i think for the league that i think dart and then i've heard there's some fans for milrow out there as well yes yes in round one or like top 10 but i do think that some teams really like the uh the ceiling of jalen milrow but with that being the case and then when you throw in the fact that adam schefter said last week if there's anything i'm the most sure on it's that the browns are going to draft the quarterback at number two if cam ward is here i believe that that happens if cam ward not here, I think they either trade back or they draft Travis Hunter.

I would agree on the Hunter front. I don't think Shadur Sanders is in the conversation here for the Cleveland Browns. And to be honest with you, I don't know if he's in the conversation for the Giants then even at number three, even in a scenario where they really need one. So I'm going to take Cam Ward here and just reiterate that I believe it's sort of a one quarterback race.

And for a long time, I think that we talked about these two quarterbacks going in the top 10. I am less convinced of that now more than ever, that we get two quarterbacks, not just in the top 10, but in the first round. So we'll see how this draft plays out to see if you think a little bit different. But I'll go Cam Ward, number two to the Cleveland Browns. Right. So now the scenario is that the Giants are at three. Cam Ward's gone. I didn't hear that they don't like Shador Sanders.

I did talk to some people. I agree. That would know. They were like, hey, it's not that they don't dislike Shador. I think there are things about his game obviously his accuracy that they really like i think trevor it comes down to they would move up to number one or number two for cam ward i don't know if they would do that for shador sanders and i think they're aware that there's a world where, like this scenario, Cam Ward goes in front of them.

And that's why you've heard some of the Rodgers noise now. It was funny. They were in on Matt. I mean, can I just say this? The Giants are in a horrible spot. Well, you never want to be the desperate man at the bar, right? They're in a terrible spot. Because you bring back your head coach

and your general manager and you do so basically telling them that their seat is hot already the second you're basically like hey your job is safe but you're very close to being fired right yes that's how mara spoke and if it's basically what mara was saying in paraphrasing is basically like 2025 better be a hell of a lot better than 2024 was. They have no quarterback. They have no quarterback right now. Not many avenues to give you a surefire answer. I know the third overall pick can be one, but not for sure.

But that's, it's just, it's such, now is there a world where it could work out for the Giants? Sure. Yes. That's why I think they were in on the conversation for Matthew Stafford. And that's why I think they are in on the, as the team to most likely to move up to number one, if there's going to be a trade. So all of that can be said, I think that there is a way where this works out, but if they don't get Cam Ward and if they don't either sign Sam Darnold or trade for Geno Smith,

at that point, I don't know why you brought Joe Shane and Ryan Dayball back. Because it's ridiculous to think that it would get so much better in 2025 where these guys are going to save their jobs. So I just think it's bad business practice what the New York Giants are doing right now. It's not an ideal situation what I'll say is I'm pretty confident they are going to get a veteran in that building I for the draft I agree because they are fearful of this situation where they might go through these next two months and be like you know what we really like Shador

we're gonna take him at three which might be a surprise to people, and he's going to sit behind, name your veteran. But more likely, if they can get that veteran, you bring up Darnold and Geno, and then they can go into the draft and say, hey, we're going to draft somebody that we like the upside of in the second or third round instead and use our third overall pick on a premium player because our

roster is bad right now and they to walk people through this they had this idea last year right they had the idea last year around this time I had talked to a lot of people about this that they felt like with their top 10 pick we were not going to be in position probably to get Drake May, even though we'd love to have him. And obviously, Caleb and Jaden Daniels are gone. I heard they made a pretty compelling offer to get the three. They wanted Drake May. It wasn't going to happen. So they knew, okay, we're going to take a premium player in the top 10, like Malik Neighbors. And then, mind you, this time last year, a lot changes

with the draft. They thought they can come back into round one for a Michael Penix kind of quarterback at the time. We see how things changed, Trevor. Penix, McCarthy, and Bo Nix all went in the top 12 when a lot of teams thought one of the three could make it to the back end of round one. So then the Giants were like, okay, we're going to try to improve the roster and roll with Daniel Jones and figure it out.

And now you don't have that luxury, as you highlighted. So day one of the combine, I'm there, and everybody's like, they're going, I know a lot of New York people, obviously. They're like, they're going for Stafford. This is an aggressive play for Stafford. And then day two, the same people were like, yeah, the Giants want him.

We don't think he wants the Giants. And I was like, you know, when you frame it like that, he's got a lot going for him where he is. The Giants roster right now, maybe it looks a lot different in two months and a lot better. But at the moment, it's a big risk. And now the conversation has pivoted to, like you said, a different bucket of quarterbacks. So I'm not going to take a quarterback here because i'm going with the idea they are going to get somebody in free agency or via trade and they'd like to be a little bit

more flexible and go into the draft and get a day two guy like they kind of thought they were going to do last year now the question is you know obviously which player well a carter's gone it's hunter is a clear winner here they need They need a corner and a receiver. Hell. So this is an easy one when you kind of go. And I know this was a long process to get this pick done, but there's so much going on with the New York Giants that I think it needed to be explained.

This mock draft will be posted, and people will see Travis Hunter at three with Shador Sanders on the board, and their minds will explode. But I think the actual explanation on the podcast makes a lot more sense. Look, I'm right there with you. Solidarity.

I'd come to the same exact conclusion. I don't think if they're not getting Cam Ward, I don't think they can hitch their wagon to Shadur Sanders thinking that he is going to play well enough to save them their jobs in 2025. Behind a line that needs work still. 100%. And look, I like Shador right I just have always and we've kind of said this a little bit on this podcast like whenever we've done a

lot of predictive stuff it just has felt as though until we get to free agency and we really get to sort these things out there are so many teams that are desperate for quarterbacks so that's why in mocks before this yeah we'd have Shador going to the Giants at number three. But I wondered if I was going to get to Indianapolis and if it was going to be a lot of conversations about, hey, yeah, some teams, some people have Shador, QB being considered as a ideal option, an option for some of these teams picking in the top 10, but not the one that they would go with. And it almost feels as though these teams would at least rather have somebody on the veteran market that they're bringing in before they're drafting a guy like Shador Sanders.

So you're going Travis Hunter here at number three? Yep. Okay. All right. So would I, honestly. The New England Patriots are up at number four. Worst offensive line in the NFL last year. Most sacks allowed.

Most pressures allowed. Has to get a lot better. But this is also the team that has the most cap space to work with this year. I honestly think that the Patriots, it's not that they couldn't go offensive line here. And if they're going to go somebody, I think that they would go Armando Bamboo. But I believe they're going to bring in

a lot of new talent on the offensive line in the form of free agency. I bet they bring in two, three, maybe even four offensive linemen. They have to. Some are going to be seen as right-of-way starters. Other guys are going to be seen as the necessary depth and culture fit

kind of players for Mike Vrabel. Connor, I'm more tempted to go Tetra O. McMillan here with the way that Mike Vrabel talked about wanting an outside X type of a wide receiver, a guy who is compared to Mike Evans or Drake London. I know some people are like, Tetra O. McMillan, he's scared to compete. He didn't run a 40. He said he's not going to run a 40 at Pro Day. Hey, Drake London didn't either. We never saw Drake London run a 40. He still went number eight overall.

He still turned out pretty all right. So I'm actually going to go with Ted Jerome McMillan here at number four instead of an offensive lineman. What do you think about it? I don't think you're crazy at all. I mean, listen, we sit here and record this show. Tee Higgins got franchise tag today. The wide receiver market is not good, folks.

Honestly, the free agent market, if you're looking to go buy a team, is never good. And New England is looking to go buy an offense. Right. I mean, they need upside. They need big-time players on the line, big-time players at wide receiver. There will be some players out there, but like Trey Smith got tagged. T. Higgins got tagged. Yeah, you got to pick your spots.

New England, if they could sign some mid-level starters on the line, draft Ted at four, and then keep adding to their trenches on day two, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the route they go. So you're up with the Jags at five. Jags at five jags at five interesting spot uh because the player that's been the most popular pick for them has been mason graham i despite people kind of overreacting to his combine which is interesting considering that i understand like i expected him to be over 300 pounds. That was just yeah, he's just smaller and shorter. Right.

Then we thought. Right. And he probably went in at that weight to test is to do as much as he can. Or, you know, obviously not necessarily now, but guys can get down to weight because they could be getting ready for pro day to do everything. I still think Mason Graham's gonna go really early in this draft like I I don't I don't think teams are reacting to this the way that the general public does yeah I don't I mean I what like I've watched Mason Graham put up phenomenal tape against good competition and I've seen him do it you know on a stage to win

a national title I've seen him do it against Ohio State I stage to win a national title I've seen him do it against Ohio State I don't know like I don't this isn't one to me where I need to recalibrate all my thoughts I didn't never thought Mason Graham would be a top three pick in you know since we've been doing these mock drafts but he's just such a good fit for Jacksonville at five and a really good player and uh obviously Hunter and Carter are off the board so i'm gonna stick with graham here even though i know that won't be popular opinion anymore look i i think mason graham's a hell of a player i wonder if the nfl is going to draft an interior defensive lineman with short arms who's sub 300 who i'm very interested to hear how he tests when he's at Michigan because I think there are moments when he's explosive

and if he's able to stand out the way that Braden Fisk was, looking at how good of a rookie season Braden Fisk had, does that sort of give him a bump? Now, even if you want to say yes, Braden Fisk still went in the second round. Does the bump take Mason Graham all the way up to number five I don't know I still feel as though this is where his range starts and then you start having the conversation with him at number five but I genuinely think that his floor could be 12

like I think the range is just fine opened up a little bit more for him to potentially go to the Cowboys at 12 right I think that that's the floor for him I think that San Francisco at 11 would also be all over him so I could I would have a hard time believing that even with maybe less than ideal measurables he would get past 11 or 12 but to me with the measurables and everything I think the range has opened up a little bit more for Mason Graham but the tape is the tape and we're going to say that a lot here on this show. And as we go throughout the process, like the measurements, you know,

we'll have the Will Campbell conversation soon, I would imagine. Like how guys test just the measurements and the official measurements that we get on these guys, which I now have to put in air quotes, official because the senior bowl measurements and the shrine bowl measurements weren't even the same as the combine measurements

that we saw. So what's going on? I one give me one give me one guy who's employed by the nfl who goes to the guy who goes to the senior bowl who goes to the combine that's what i want you're right he walks around with a briefcase and it's just got tape measure in it dude he's like a tailor yeah literally he literally he just finely dressed italian suits just a tape measure right over his neck at all times speak like just so nobody challenges the measurements he just he doesn't even tell you what you measured in at he just writes in a little notebook a little leather notebook and he and he leaves he doesn't even say goodbye or thank you the only words in english that he knows are,

enjoy your stay, Mr. Wick. Those are the only words in English that he knows. And other than that, he is just there to give you official NFL measurements. One more thing on Mason Graham, because I see so much of the Fisk conversation. Braden Fisk was 24. Mason Graham's 21. I mean, that's a big difference we're talking here three years

three year difference so I would just be I never saw Braden Fisk hold the point of attack against double teams the way Mason Graham does in the big in the big so I don't know I just think it's a um a dangerous conversation is what I like to say. I hear you. I hear you calling it the big. I don't. Yeah. I hear you.

Yeah, represent the big. Big Brandon guy. All right, so the Raiders are up at number six. I am fascinated to see what you do here. Talk me out of action, Genty. Well, they don't have a quarterback. Okay, okay okay okay but like i said i i don't i'm not gonna do that because i think he's the third best player in the draft but it's interesting like we hear how you know she do her attacks with Tom Brady and they were another team in on Stafford.

I really, the Raiders are so interesting to me, man. Like who is going to be the quarterback of this team? The Raiders could take Shador at six. I wouldn't be shocked. And I think a lot of people would go like, yeah, of course. They've been linked to Tom Brady the whole time. You know, Dion and Tom are real good friends. Mark Davis, he knows him.

And here's the thing that we talk about all the time it only takes one right we talk we say that phrase on this channel yeah it does not take two to tango we've often reminded people of this you can tango alone so if there are 31 other NFL teams that have a third round grade on Shadur Sanders I'm making this up by the way let's say there are 31 teams that have a third round grade on Shadur Sanders. I'm making this up, by the way. Let's say there are 31 teams that have a third-round grade on Shadur Sanders, and the Raiders have a top-10 grade on them. Raiders are probably going to take him at six. And history would look back and say, well, see, the league said that Shadur Sanders was a top-10 overall pick.

Well, no, the league didn't. We don't know that for sure. Maybe they did. But just the Raiders did. So that's why this specific pick in this conversation is so interesting to me and it's so dependent on what happens in free agency because at this point I don't think the league as a whole views Sanders as a top 10 overall pick I don't and with the Raiders having a new head coach in Pete Carroll and a new general manager

in John Spitek, whenever that is the case, I feel as though those regimes that are just starting operate much more long-term view. So I could instead see the raiders bringing in a justin fields or one of these other free agents maybe a jamis winston i don't think will russell wilson because of how things ended with pete carroll's time in seattle and russell's time in seattle maybe it could be water under the bridge but it's surprising i think it's much more likely that once again they go a veteran quarterback market and until we get past free agency and they do not have a legit option at quarterback i don't think they're gonna force one at number six so with that being the case this to me comes down to ashen genti jade baron and will johnson that's what i think it comes down to Ashton Gentry, Jadae Barron, and Will Johnson.

That's what I think it comes down to. And I feel as though they would go Ashton Gentry at six. I think that a lot of teams in the league view him as a true offensive changing piece. I think a lot of people look at him and think, hey, we can have the same sort of impact that Saquon Barkley had with the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, I understand why you guys are going to yell at me and you're going to say, well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Philly had the best offensive line in the NFL. I understand that. But again, I feel as though if the NFL believes Ashton Gentry is a special player and I have yet to hear anything against that you draft

him at six with a pretty good offensive line already forming with the Raiders and then you just continue to add on to that in the next couple of years you hope that you obviously get the quarterback that has the playoff and Super Bowl ceiling after that so I'm sticking with it man until free agency proves me otherwise I'm taking Ashen genti at number six i don't think anybody can call that crazy i mean one of the special players in the draft they will that's true they will and i look forward to it i look forward to reading the comments let's hear it folks what you think about ashen genti seven the jets this is obviously a very popular tyler warren spot for good reason by the way I think for good reason um Warren is

another one of the guys that I think is one of the best players in this draft he's he is very calm cool and collected I had him at Big Ten Media in July and then I had him at the Combine this year and he's like he's always the same level which makes it that amazing how much he flips a switch on the field and do an absolute killer. One quote I really did like from him is when I asked him about, you know, blocking in their, in their multiple run schemes,

which is how much they, he was talking about how much they run outside zone. And he's like, be in the front side, tight end in our outside zone. He's like, we call it getting the engine started. And I just thought that was,

that was so hardcore. Really, really good line. He lights up differently when talking about blocking, which is just funny to me, because this guy threw a touchdown, ran for four touchdowns, caught many touchdowns, and it's like, nah, I'd rather just throw you into the stands and let someone else score. He wants to block.

So he'll be a popular pick here, but I'm going to throw a little bit of a wrinkle, Trevor, go not so fast I'm gonna go Armand Membu yeah dude I'm with you yeah I mean with you it's it's it's another tailor-made slot the Jets offensive line from left tackle to right guard is actually pretty damn good right now when you write it down on paper Olu Fashinu obviously John Simpson was a nice signing for them coming over from Baltimore. Joe Tippman had a really nice second year. And then Elijah Vera Tucker was finally healthy at guard. But there's just this giant glaring hole at right tackle

because Morgan Moses is probably going to get to free agency. Armand Membou's tape at right tackle this year is as good as any offensive lineman in this draft. And then he goes and tests like an absolute alien i mean like really like tested like an alien at his size that his lion roar while running the 40 and flying down the track was that we're calling it it really was just an absolute we're calling it absolute roar it was like he was in a tennis match dude you know like in tennis when they just hit it you know it's always him every step he every step you felt like the the track was gonna cave in when he was running it's like oh man that doesn't

look fun if you're a lot if you're a linebacker he ran ran a 4.91 at 3.31. Oh, he is. Really impressive. And did you see he put up 31 reps in the bench? Yes. Like, that was just on the way out. With that arm length? I got to catch a flight, but here's 31 reps at 2.25. Yeah, here's 31 cold ones for you.

Don't worry, I'll rack it myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do not touch the bar, sir. He's unreal. Unreal. He was my top tackle in our tackle rankings. Good call. And I thought he would test well for his size,

but I didn't see that level coming. Man, we're in the world where Jets at seven doesn't feel wild for Mambu. Actually, there might be a world where he could even go higher than this. Yep, I agree. I think that his range starts at four for the Patriots. In my latest mock draft over at pff.com,

I thought about him for the Jags at five, just wanting to get as many good offensive linemen as possible there. You can play him at guard, and then long-term, you've got to tackle for you if the two guards that you have there in Anton Harrison and Walker Little don't work out for you. But I also think the Jets, I mean, it's absolutely realistic that he could be the first offensive tackle off the board and go to the New York Jets there at 7.

How about the rare listed 6'3 on the school site and you show up 6'4? I just want to give some love to that for Armand Membu, who's also 20 years old, by the way. Kelvin Banks would be the same way. Yeah. Texas lists him at 6'4, he's 6'5. What are we doing here? There is a chance these guys have grown because we forget they're like 19

when those lists come in. Yeah, I about but still yeah like then lie for the inch in this scenario what are they drinking hormone milk oh man they're listening to our advice steroids and i was gonna say steroids doesn't make you grow vertically by the way folks for all you youngsters out there stay natural natural. Makes you grow in life. It's funny, when you go to the combine and... I am so curious as to what you're about to say as a segue from steroids and now going to the combine. It's good. I don't see you a lot.

I saw you Tuesday night. We had a lovely dinner with our friends at Underdog. Yes. And then like three days later, I finally saw you and we went and we walked together to go get a coffee. But I'm really not with you a lot. But the few minutes I was walking with you, you know, some really nice, you know, younger guys have stopped us along the way. Like in the show or want to say hi or whatever it is. But it reminds you how young our audience can also be and some of the outlandish nonsense i say on here so it's it's good it's a good reminder yeah yeah so yeah do steroids exactly exactly what i was

saying to avoid on the show oh man honest honestly. Honestly, though, I thought about this. I should have said it at the very top. This entire draft season, whether it was the Shrine Bowl, the Senior Bowl, some people at the Super Bowl as well, especially at the Combine, we met so many of you who are either just diehard addicts to the podcast, people who work on the NFL side of things, people who work on the agent side of things the media side of things uh it was so cool thank you for coming up and saying hello and

saying that you love the show we were blown away honestly about how many people came up to us and said hello uh we love that stuff we love meeting you guys uh it means the world to us not only that you would do something like that but just that you listen to the show and that you're fans of the show and that we built a really good community here and it's a really cool reminder. So shout out to everybody. And this would also be the time when Josh Norris from Underdog, shout out,

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because we try to have as best of content as we possibly can for you and make this a full NFL draft journey all year long. So that brings up the Carolina Panthers here at number eight. D-line obviously huge for them. You know, moving on to Shaq Thompson. End of an era. I know. Huge end of an era. I know. Huge end of an era. I wonder if Jihad Campbell and Jalen Walker are in play here, right? We didn't see Jalen Walker. He didn't work out this weekend, but

Jihad Campbell did and he looked great. I also loved his podium session. I mean, he just sounded super confident, wants to be used basically in every way that the defense wants him to be used. I think Jalen Walker said the same. I wondered if Jalen Walker would sort of answer that question of, hey, have teams talked to you about playing a lot more edge rusher? Right. And he sort of pushed back on it a little bit. He's like, no, I want to play every position. Like, I want to play that linebacker level. I want to be able to blitz. I want to be able to cover and all that. And I wondered if the NFL was pushing him more towards the edge and it doesn't seem like it so when you guys are doing your Jalen Walker projections make sure that you're not totally

discarding him playing linebacker which full disclosure I didn't love when he was playing as an off-ball linebacker I liked him a lot more when he was an edge rusher but if the NFL was going to kind of hey off-ball linebacker edge rusher, but if the NFL was going to kind of, hey, off-ball linebacker, edge rusher type of a player, and he didn't really measure in like an edge rusher, very low percentiles for arm length and overall size if he was an edge, it's just something to think about. I keep going back to Shamar Stewart here with this number eight pick.

I think Mike Green is certainly in play here as well. i think he had a good combine relative to what he did james pierce i like a lot he was super explosive i didn't get i didn't feel like i got the vibe that james pierce is regarded in that same conversation as like a shamar stewart mike green no a jalen walker so i wouldn't that's why i wouldn't really be considering him here they do also need secondary help so i would i would throw in jade baron here as well if i if i gave you the jade baron or shamar stewart pick here is there one that you've heard more than the other that the nfl really loves because i wonder if that would make the difference here of who i think would go number eight compared to so who do I think goes first between those two players yeah I would say Shamar okay although let me tell me like totally raise my hand I did not think Jaday was testing like that

I was Jaday is I love what he does on tape and I thought his problem okay you know problem saying why he wouldn't be a top 10 to 12 pick and more of a back half around one pick is because I thought other corners would be longer and faster than him I mean he's I know he brought up Trent McDuffie like he's got that McDuffie aspect who I loved and now I now, Baron, man, I could be wrong early on that one. Not about the player, but where he goes. Teams might be correcting themselves. I'm like, hey, maybe we should care about these guys that are going to be nickels for us, but they do so much more.

So I think it's a good conversation is where I'm going. But for this isolated pick, I would say Shamar. I would say Shamar as well. Dude who, I'm not saying that he is these players, but it's basically just like the way that he tested at 6'5", 267 pounds, running an extremely fast 40-yard dash, 40 inches in the vert. I mean, just some insane explosiveness and speed numbers there from Shamar Stewart. You're in the conversation with what Mario Williams was

when he was a number one pick, what Jadavion Clowney was when he was a number one pick, what Miles Garrett was when he was a number one pick. And the reason why Shamar isn't going to be the number one pick is because of lack of production. I understand that, but there's plenty of reason to believe that the best is yet to come for him. So I'll go Shamar Stewart at eight for the Panthers here.

Man, he's just... I know everybody's going to throw the one-and-a's just i i know everybody's gonna throw the one and a half sack seasons in everyone's face but he wrecks plays on tape he just physically has things that are so rare it's it's hard to see him i don't know if the numbers will be massive in the nfl level but he is an n NFL disruptor and the Panthers need that Saints at nine for you Saints at nine man how fascinating is this where I mean they need they need a lot of different things obviously they might need a new starting tight end on their roster assuming Juwan Johnson leaves which all signs are kind of pointing to that being the

most likely outcome yep where tyler warren's in play here oh totally obviously they can keep will campbell in the in the state the great state let me correct myself the great state of louisiana i'm a big fan of new orleans it's a it's a it's a good town elite city elite it is an elite city um i'm gonna go with Tyler Warren here. I would as well. Right. I mean, it just it helps their run game. It helps their pass game.

He's a top 10 player in this draft and it's a position of need and helps their offense. Tyler Warren makes a lot of sense if he made it here. Yeah, I agree with you. I think that, you know, you could explore some offensive line. You shouted out Will Campbell. I think that makes a lot of sense for them. You know, if Armand Mabou is available maybe if they uh believe that like josh shimmons is going to be good to go which by the way i know we'll talk about josh shimmons at some point in this mock

draft but he said at his combine that rehab is going great for him so great in fact that he might have a personal pro day before the nfl before the nfl draft which would be huge which would be huge for him to even be able to get on the field and even if like his testing numbers aren't as great as we think that they could be if he moves well enough and that knee is good to go to do a personal pro day um that's a very good sign for him and now we have to just remember how good he was playing before he got hurt so I agree I think the Tyler Warren makes sense here though the saints could go a lot of different directions chicago's on the board at number 10 bears fans might be sick of me for this but how do i not pick will campbell at this point right i you know again i guess you could go mike green maybe a jaylen walker but you got options, but yeah,

I think Don Vanes Raku is absolutely a first round player. I don't think he's going to go as high as 10 overall. 10 would be rich, rich for me. It would, it would be, it would be the first time that we've seen him that high in a mock draft. But I mean, I asked you like, what doesn't the dude do well you know he's been very productive he gets his hands on passes when it comes to passes broken up he's got eight forced fumbles over the last three years he had three cone and short shuttle times in the 90th percentile he weighed in at 248 which you love to see he said he could

probably play comfortably around 255 which is great um because I wondered if he was going to be a little bit smaller. The jumps weren't like insanely explosive. And again, like if he was maybe a more explosive athlete, I wonder if he goes to this spot. I think he's locked himself as a first rounder. Number 10 might be a little bit rich, but I wonder if we just start to have that conversation with him somewhere in the top 20.

I think Will Campbell makes a ton of sense though, man. He's got... Here's the thing about Campbell. So, 32 and 3-8 inch arm length is 7th percentile for the offensive tackle position. When it comes to his total wingspan, that's just, I think, 77 and 3-8. And that is like 0th percentile for offensive tackles.

There is not an offensive tackle that has come through the NFL since at least 2011, which is as far as mock draftable had their sortable database for, that had an offensive tackle with that low of a wingspan over the last 14 years. And probably well before then too now i also very much believe will campbell that the tape is still the tape his arms didn't like get shorter than what they were this year when he was lsu and he put up some damn good tape

as a left tackle but when it comes to predicting a draft position i think this is probably appropriate for him. And I think you're probably putting him at guard and at center. And some people out there might be shouting at me saying, why would you not let this guy start an offensive tackle first? I'm with you. I want you to know. I hear you.

I support you. I stand next to you in this cause. But, Ray Sean Slater was... was what i don't want him to play i don't i don't know if tackle is a great idea ray sean slater i think a lot of people are going to bring up ray sean slater slater had longer arms a longer wingspan better 40 better jumps better agility so he was a better athlete now will campbell was doing his workout at about 14 heavier pounds so i understand that that goes into it sure but rayshon slater was small but more athletic the fact that i i had this conversation with

easton freeze who uh covers the tennessee titans we were talking a lot about peter skronsky that's who i think of right but here's the thing with peter skronsky because i myself was upset that the titans never gave peter skronsky the chance to start an offensive tackle but the fact of the matter is and eason reminded me of this it's now been two different coaching staffs that have not given peter skronsky the chance to play offensive tackle and they've needed an offensive tackle yeah and they didn't even think about it so again in a predictive mock i don't at this point in time i i am less convinced that the nfl is going to give will campbell a shot at offensive tackle i think it's

much more likely they give him a starting job right away at guard or potentially at center that is perfect for the Chicago Bears, who are just trying to put the best offensive line they can around Caleb Williams. You draft Will Campbell and you let him play center or guard, and you bring in somebody else in free agency, maybe you bring back one of those three guys that's a free agent for you along the interior offensive line. I think it fixes things.

So I'm going Will Campbell at 10 to the Bears. Well said. Niners at 11. A lot of buzz around the Niners. They trade Debo Samuel. We've heard talk about Brandon Ayuk. They usually don't pick around here. So this is a big one.

I think this pick's going to be a defensive lineman, whether that's a D-line or an edge. I'll go Mike Green in this spot. I think they really want a pass rusher to pair across from Bosa but I would say plenty of the interior players are in play here as well uh obviously you could even say you know if they think Jalen Walker's an edge but I'm gonna go with Mike Green here for the Niners I I think pass rusher is very very much play for them. And I think Shanahan is the type of guy, like we saw with Dominic Poonie last year,

thinks they can capitalize on the value of a day two offensive lineman and get more out of them. But they know more about the status of Trent Williams' future than us, health-wise. So if they feel like, hey, we gotta you know get a premium tackle now then we'll do it but this is this is more of the line of what i've heard i have not seen this pairing before well green's usually not there oh panthers panthers yeah yeah no he's there sometimes it's true yeah i mean ah jim never gets old dallas cowboy's up at number 12

you know they got offensive line needs no doubt zach martin retiring salute no you draw a famer what a career they got cooper bb who could play center for him now tyler smith playing left guard terence steeles playing left tackle man they could use an offensive lineman they got Guyton in there that they could obviously throw in one of those spots they're hoping that Guyton is your future starting left tackle

for a long time you got those two guys so the left side of the offensive line is alright I think they probably think they could wait on guard there's so many tackles that are going to get kicked inside the guard because who would they pick here? I think that they would entertain Campbell if Campbell was here. Maybe Kelvin Banks. That's the Kelvin Banks is who came to mind immediately for me.

So the other guy that I'm thinking of, Kelvin Banks is somebody who I think could play tackle. You know, he's got 26th percentile arm length, but then if you zoom out to the total wingspan, it goes to 82nd percentile. He's very big. He's got like the longest shoulders you've ever seen in your life. Yeah.

I had him on the last day, and I had eight offensive linemen, and it felt different when he walked over, him and Simmons. They carried their weight really, really well. I thought Banks looked like an NFL offensive tackle. I'm thinking between him and Jihad Campbell because, dude, their linebacker room is bad. Eric Kendrick's a free agent. DeMarvian Overshown had a major knee injury late in the

season brutal one right now their lb1 is maris leofow who who i fun player who i like but i didn't think that he'd be an lb1 in the league, his second year in. Right. I think that if you have Jihad Campbell and Jihad Campbell's your LB one, and then Leah Fow is your LB two in a couple of different roles that I feel a lot better about. So I'm going to, I'm going to take Jihad Campbell here at 12 and think that Dallas could go with a little bit of a scarcity argument here and maybe hit offensive line in the second round when we

get to the second round so i'm gonna go i'll go campbell i'm gonna go campbell here at 12 i i i just started to gravitate this pick more more and more dolphins at 13 this pick actually really didn't take me that long to think of honestly shouldn't shouldn't you You know what I'm going to do? If I if I don't, maybe we'll have some words. I once again, this is a mock draft of how we think things are going to fall. Very different from our rankings. I'm going with Nick Emanwari. Whoa. Yeah.

I was like, how do you know what I'm doing? What did you think I was doing? Nicholas. I mean, you think I was doing? Nicholas! I mean... Did you think Barron? No, I was going to say Kelvin Banks. Interesting. I mean, they need an offensive lineman,

and he gives you the athleticism that you would want. He could play... Because here's why I would go offensive lineman. They just never do this. They took Patrick Paul in the second round last year, so he's got to play. I know they did, but Mike McDaniel said at his podium that right now they're operating as if Teron Armstead

is not with them next year. Now, he hasn't officially said that he's going to retire. What was the money move they made with him? What, did they move his money around? They were acting like, the exact quote was like, oh, he might play for the minimum. But I thought that was more cap manipulation than actual. They move his money to void.

This is this is the Ian Rapport tweet from February 25th. OK, Dolphins left tackle Toronto Armstead plans to take his contract down to down to minimum. I'm told from the twenty eight point6 million he was set to make that allows the team to make all the necessary moves they want to make and allows armstead 33 to be on the team until he makes his decision on the future i'm gonna be honest with you i have no idea what the hell any of that means like it's not he's playing for the minimum salary it's not that he's retired it's not that he hasn't retired it sounds like a whole lot of we don't know right now so that to me uh and let me tell you amateur madden cap guy here um okay fair enough

i'm listening to me that makes it seem like somehow some way they're obviously moving the money to where like he's making the minimum as of right now um so in free agency opens it's more operating room they correct but in order to do that they probably would have had to attach like void years to his contract yeah but then but then if he comes back you can just turn those void years into like actual contract years so it's a cap manipulation maneuver why he's up in the air and if he's playing exactly yes yes so he's down to the minimum to make it easier for the dolphins to do what they need to do and then if he comes back it's probably a scenario where they go okay well your game checks are going to be for the minimum this year because that's how we operated but then you will get whatever money

you were supposed to get it's just spread out over like void years after you retire or something okay brad's gonna yell at me i just i just know it brad's gonna be like these morons published this show with this kind of tomfoolery on there it's good that we make that part of our brand though that we're actually idiots so people can't yell at us like we tell you all the time we're not smart so you're going with nick i'm going with nick who had a who had an electric weekend indianapolis 6-3-2-20 43 inch vert 11-6 broad what was his 40? 4-4. Oh 4-3-8's the official. Yeah no short changing. I won't. 4-3's. McDaniel might play him at receiver. He'd play him at team president with numbers like that. Whatever he wants. Yeah man I mean once again I still have Malachi Starks ahead of him as a prospect,

but I think the NFL loved this guy before Indy. I mean, they draft aliens, man. Thank you. That's exactly... The easiest out is always like, hey, the NFL loves aliens. This is one of them. And I think Javon Holland is gone. I do too. I do too. Alright, Nicky Manwari to the

Miami Dolphins is number 13 that's very interesting dolphins fans listen how do you feel about that versus an offensive lineman and nick in particular is that pick there at 14 very curious the indianapolis colts at number 14 this one's pretty easy to me i think i agree i'm sprinting the card in for jade baron oh interesting okay i don't i don't dislike that at all who did you who are you leaning i think colson loveland is in play here for sure i also agree with you but they have other playmakers they can go into the passing game jade baron makes so much sense for luana rumo coming in as a defense yeah he does he helps a lot he he will play whatever defensive position

they need him to play and he will play it very very well whether it's that's safety slot hybrid or playing as an outside corner like we saw him do at Texas now he runs the 4-3-9 official and and we get to see that he's got that that long speed on the outside as well so he didn't quite play that fast but it's good to know that he has it in him this is one of my favorite players in the class I love Barron elite coverage grade this past season really good run defender guy who could tackle for you as well. He, I, he would be a perfect Colts pit pick in my opinion at 14.

So you're up with the Falcons at 15. I love it. Baron is somebody that I was just wildly impressed with. Obviously the tape is the tape, but I just thought he ran faster than I expected. And everybody showed the Falcons at 15. Obviously they need a pass rusher pretty badly. I'm going to take jalen walker here i'd have double check i'm like he is on the board right we've talked about him four times he is he

is he is i'm gonna take jalen walker here okay and i think in this scenario they would play him at both positions they would play him off the ball and they would allow him to rush the pass yeah i think i think this is a this is a nice spot with Raheem and Raheem's defense because I do think that he could play as that outside linebacker type and they could feel pretty good about it. Yeah. I like the fit. This is kind of more where I value him. I feel like I've seen him earlier than this.

I like him right in the middle. I think I had him ranked at 16 or whatever, 17. So I think this is a you know he he's he's a little bit lower on my rankings just because again if if you're if the idea is linebackers his home base well yeah i don't i don't love that linebacker was my least favorite tape that he had right so and if you tell me that edge rusher is his own base, he ain't built like an edge rusher. Man, he's freaky though. He is nice and he's athletic and I loved his podium, man.

I mean, I keep saying former coach's kid, like he's not anymore. He's still a coach's kid. He'd graduate. Right. Yeah. He's the coach now. Yeah. But like just very well thought out answers about everything.

You know, when he was asked questions about being an edge rusher, being a linebacker, being that defensive chess piece, you could tell that no question that he was asked was a question that he hadn't asked himself already and done the work to find the answers for. So you do have faith in players like that who understand the game and themselves within it very well. So I think that this is the start of the range for where I'd feel comfortable with Jalen Walker. And it kind of, to me, feels like where the NFL is as well. I didn't hear anybody say, oh yeah, Jalen Walker. I mean, he's good. He's going to the top 10, no question about it, but this feels good. Cardinals at 16. James Pierce Jr. would be great for them. Walter Nolan would be great for them. Kenneth Grant would be great for them.

Will Johnson would be great for them. They got options, man. I think the Cardinals are in a great spot. Because of how deep this defensive line class is, and because we're going multiple rounds here, I'm going to do the same thing I did in my written mock draft. I'm going to go with Will Johnson here, because Will Johnson would give them a complete cornerback room

with Johnson, Max Melton, Garrett Williams. You throw Sean Murphy Bunting in there as well. How many, is he in the last year of his contract? I think he might be, but Will is the CB1 then of that team, which also, I just thought of this, makes it hilarious in practice because he goes up against Marvin Harrison Jr. again. Oh man. Every single day. That is really good. Talk about an iron sharpens iron. Yes. I'm not I'm actually

not changing this pick just for that just because I hope that the Cardinals get hard knocks or we just get a pay-per-view stream where we get to watch practice every day in Arizona. So I'm going Will Johnson here for the Cardinals at 16, and I'm going to see which pass rushers we can get in round two here for him. I think that's the right value, Will Johnson at 16, both for him and for Arizona, capitalizing on, you know, a guy that's really talented in this draft, good size, really good eye discipline, obviously ball skills.

The Bengals at 17, I feel like I've made this pick a lot but for good reason I'm going with Kenneth Grant here they franchise T Higgins this week could see it so wide receiver looks pretty dang good with the hopes of getting an extension done I know they released Alex Kappa but I don't think I need to take a guard at 17. Like you're telling me in this class where every other tackle is being asked to move inside. I can't get a guard in the second round. So give me a, let's bring the beef to the middle of this defense with Kenneth Grant. 100%. No, I think that it's definitely, since Cincinnati is tagging T. Higgins and he ain't going anywhere,

all eyes are on defense. All eyes are on defense. And maybe Amalekai Starks I think is in play here, ain't going anywhere uh it all eyes are on defense all eyes are on defense and uh maybe amalekai starks i think is in play here but certainly making the defensive line a lot better is is something that i don't think too many people are going to push back on seattle seahawks well i was going to take nikki memoir here that sucks until you ruin my christmas well yeah that's that's brutal actually this is the thing i got nothing for you there's no way around it i got known well it appears i've been owned

what all right i got two names okay kelvin mags jr yep grace able yep those are the two Okay. Kelvin Banks Jr. Yep. Graze Abel. Yep. Those are the two. Man, Banks on this team at guard is pretty nice looking. Right. Yeah. Right. And, and you know what? It is going to be Kelvin Banks Jr. And this is a perfect scenario for the Seattle Seahawks because Abe Lucas missed all that time last year due to the chronic knee injury that he has Lucas says

that he's good to go he said he was feeling good at the end of the season which I'm very thankful for because he's a good football player when he's healthy but if you draft Kelvin Banks you have an immediate starter at guard in my opinion and then you have a contingency plan at offensive tackle if something ever happens to Abe Lucas so to me this I don't know if Kelvin Banks makes it 18 but it'd be hard to pass him up if the if the Seattle Seahawks have him on the board and in their site so I'll go Kelvin Banks at 18 here he's very impressive man I first thing I asked him was I'm like you're 20 years old and you've already played three years at left tackle for Texas

like that is that's pretty rare air and um you know he obviously is really thankful just for having all that experience. He's like, once you get it, you don't want to lose that. You want to hold it down. That means a lot. He's just a really well-thought-out dude that I think cares about his teammates as much as anyone. I think teams are really going to like that personality on the offensive line. And your point, Trevor, that he has all this experience at left tackle, but can play other positions with his, you know, just with his skill set. That's a that's a big win for Seattle in that slot. 19 the Bucs.

This is the most conflicting, shocking, kind of actually surprising. One of the more conflicting picks I have to make. Because I'm going to be honest with you. I don't think James Pierce is going in the top 20. But obviously, if you're sitting here, the first player, in my opinion, you think of would be him, wouldn't it? It's him or Ezraku, in my opinion. Man.

I think it's one of those. I think the answer to the question comes down to what Todd Bowles said at his podium, and that is, which football player allows you to blitz less? And the fact that Todd Bowles himself said that, the king of blitzes, the innovator of blitzes. Yeah, he loves that. His legal name might actually be blitz and bowls is just like a cover-up or a name change because they didn't want offensive coordinators to know what was coming this dude loves to bring pressure in a lot of ways but even he said we've

got to get after the passer without blitzing so whoever whether you trust the athletic ability and explosiveness or james pierce Jr. more or you trust more of the production for what we saw of Ezeraku to me for Tampa it comes down to that I think if Mike Green's on the board he is certainly within the conversation of them taking him at number 19 as well but that's what I think I think they're trying to get a pass rusher uh that allows them to blitz less you know who I think's better than both of them, and came in at a weight where I was like, yeah, that's a good sign? Nick Skorton.

Oh. 257 pounds. Yeah, a lot lighter. A lot lighter. And I'm assuming he's going to do everything at the pro day. Yeah, because he didn't do anything. Yeah, he didn't do anything. Right. I think he's just a better player than those guys.

And it's tricky. You think the NFL thinks so? I think it depends just a better player than those guys. And it's tricky. You think the NFL thinks so? I think it depends what you prefer. If you want somebody with heavy hands, Scorton, it's not even close compared to those two, in my opinion. If you want somebody that has elite speed, it's Pierce. If you want someone that I think just simply knows

how to rush the passer, it's E if you want someone that I think just simply knows how to rush the passer it's as a Raku which it was interesting to me as a Raku didn't run because my number one thing I had wrote down when we watched him was I was like I don't think he's that fast for a lighter rusher but yeah yeah this is tricky I'll I'll go with asraku here. I think Skorton is the significantly better player than both of those guys. I just, until I hear otherwise, I think that they would love Ezraku. It's the kind of player they need.

And let me make this clear. This isn't a bad pick. He fits exactly what this defense needs on the edge, standing up. Or he can play with the sand in there but really a stand-up guy stand-up rusher he's no he's a stand-up guy he's a nice guy he's just now he is he's just a stand-up guy i'll go as a rock who at 19 i think that's a good pick i think he is their type of player for sure the denver broncos here at number 20 man i'm on a platter

who colson yeah it just feels like it's on a platter yeah i mean i keep i just keep going back to um uh sean payton excuse me saying that he wanted that joker position player somebody who could play tight end could play wide receiver could play out of the backfield for you and i I think there's two really good Joker-type players. And when I say Joker, I mean like, not that like, look at this Joker. It's more of, it's like the position. You know, how you have like a star backer, an apex defender, something like that.

I view it as a Joker card. Yeah, correct. Yeah, there you go. Just a versatile offensive weapon that could play around in the middle of the field. I think that Luther Burden also fits that billing, right? Colson Loveland is like the tight end slash wide receiver version of that. But Luther Burden, I think, is like the wide receiver

slash running back kind of version of that. Like what the best of Debo Samuel kind of was when he was popping off in the NFL. So I think both of those guys will be on their radar, but they definitely need tight end and Colson Loveland. I mean, for him to measure in at, what was his official measurements? was above six five like he had a really good size and for him to be the route runner that he is at that size um it just feels like he's going to be a

machine for bonex if he ends up going to the denver broncos so i will stay boring and keep this uh this connection alive and i'll say colson loveland to the Denver Broncos at 20. Loveland, I believe is dealing with a shoulder. Yes. Yes. He was on the Sims and Florio set, not my set, but I, I made sure to like,

just kind of look over when he, when he came over to interview with them, he is way bigger than anyone thinks. And he's dealing with a shoulder. He might be playing closer to two 60 than people realize realize when he when he's on an NFL program I know he didn't play at 260 in college he could certainly go higher than he's taller and wider than I think anybody expected obviously people at the Michigan program know what he's about but damn yeah thick yep yeah Loveland of the Broncos at 20 I I think he's gonna go earlier than this

but in this situation, he didn't. Steelers at 21? Steelers at 21. Man, Shador is still on the board, isn't he? Totally forgot. Yeah. Not that it changes anything. I didn't forget, like, oh, I should have taken him there.

Man. I mean, I don't hate if you take him here. I'm not going to. Okay, all right, don't. Fine. They're another team. I mean, yeah, it's possible. They're another team, though, where they have to get somebody in free agency than if that's bringing back Justin Fields.

I think they're bringing back one of those two guys, but clearly they're not jazzed about it. I don't think it'll be Russ, but it's weird to me with how things went with Fields this year. If he has other options, I would think he explores those options but who knows I'm just gonna be honest I absolutely could see Shador Sanders going here I know I'm kind of talking myself into it slowly I could absolutely see it yeah you're

not wrong and it also is an environment where like I think some of this is nonsense but some of it isn't I think some coaches are like oh man if things don't start off right or am i gonna hear the dion noise like mike tomlin doesn't think about any of these things he doesn't think he does not give a you know what about any of these things to quote mike tomlin himself we do not care yeah he's legendary human being legendary like i don't give a a human being in that regard. Yeah, I'm going to go with Shador here. You really talked me into it.

Because if he's still on the board, I would imagine that this would make a lot of sense for them. Because they didn't have to move, and they did this with Kenny Pickett a couple years ago. Right. And that worked out great. Why not try it again i thought of that i just want you to know i thought of that 30 seconds earlier and i was like god i hope he doesn't bring up kenny Pickett as a reason why he's doing this.

We've had so much success waiting for our quarterback prospects in the past. Super Bowl champion, Kenny Pickett. You cannot take that away from him. No, and we would never. New Jersey's very own. All right, so thanks. You talked me into Shadur Sanders just to absolutely pull the rug out from under me and own me. He's the pick at 21.

I actually do, again, I like this a lot. You know, I know they've talked about like, oh, probably one of these two quarterbacks back. We're not going to bring both of them back. Even no matter who it is, like if it's Russ or Fields, it doesn't matter. If Shador is here for the Steelers, I'm okay with this. I feel better about this. This is an actual environment where I think Shador could thrive

and not have a ton of unnecessary pressure one way or the other. So Shador to the Steelers at 21. Chargers up here at 22. You know, I think a lot of people are going to be interested in Khalil Mack. It sounds like they're going to move on from Joey Bosa. So with Tulipi Pelotu, the only edge rusher that is there, I think edge rusher could make a ton of sense for them. Interior defensive line could make a ton of sense. I believe Derek Harmon, Walter Nolan, James Pierce Jr., all these guys are still on the field.

Emeka Ibuka is there. Matthew Golden is there. I gave them Tyler Booker in my Britain mock draft, and my reasoning for it was because if you're moving on from Bradley Bozeman, and it was sort of reported Joe Ortiz talked about how Zion Johnson's getting some reps at center. If you could then throw Tyler Booker in there, this would be one of the couple of spots that I actually think makes sense because they run a lot more power between the tackles. If you're drafting Tyler Booker to there this would be one of the couple of spots that I actually think makes sense because they run a lot more power between the tackles if you're drafting Tyler Booker to his

own blocking scheme I'm not drafting him in the first round but I do think that the NFL really loves Tyler Booker and one of those teams that I think could really love Tyler Booker is the Los Angeles Chargers sure so do they believe that they can get a wide receiver later in this draft? Do they believe they could do the same thing with pass rusher? I don't know. And they might lose Josh Palmer and free agency who, I mean, it's like, like you, they do. You, it emphasizes the point of needing another wide receiver,

unless you think QJ and lad is all you need to go into the year with. No, obviously not. That's not the case at all. Obviously not. Don't pin that on me. I'm just, yeah. All right, it's Burden or Ibuka. You're in a blender.

It's Burden or Ibuka. Booker's instantly out all of a sudden. Yeah. Never even considered him here. I just wanted to make sure I defended my pick in the written mock, how I actually think that they really would consider that because of how much the NFL loves Tyler Booker. And I could imagine the Chargers being one of those teams that does so.

But wide receiver is very scarce here for them. I'm going to go with Booker. I think he's the better blocker as well he is but who's playing on the outside him or lad him probably him okay okay i think that he did that enough when he yeah yeah i'm not saying he can't do it i was just curious no you were doubting him no you were calling him a certified scrub. Quoting Stephen A. Smith directly. All right, you're up. You asked for it.

You're up for the Packers at 23. Yeah, yippee. All right, so Buka goes 22 to the Chargers. Packers at 23. Man, we all know that they have their very specific types. And they're trying to trade Jair. And they are trying to trade Jair and they are trying to trade Jair although I don't know where the hell that one goes I mean I think he gets dealt I don't think he's a Packer I think he's out oh I don't think so either but they're like there's no value there he's there's

been open friction with him and he hasn't he hasn't played very much for them. Right. So with that, you're thinking corner is like a number one need. I think corner is a need for them, for sure. It is a need for them. I mean, obviously, I really like Azaria Thomas for them. I'm probably not going to have him go at 23. Although he's my corner. What about Savone Revel? That's another guy that can go in this spot.

And I like those guys quite a bit. I would have no problem taking either of them here. I'm going to be honest with you. And call me, check me if I'm way off base here. Do you think there's a world where they consider taking Jaden Higgins here? No. You don't think so? Because I don't think that they'd view Jaden Higgins

as that much of an upgrade over the other wide. Like, for them to take a wide receiver here at 23, in my opinion, that player would have to be so clearly head and shoulders above Jaden Reed where you're not even you're not even questioning who the wide receiver one is on this team I just think they play different positions no no no no I'm not saying they say they play the same position it but what I'm saying to you is it

all comes down to do you think the NFL views Jaden Higgins as a wide receiver one like no question about it I don't think you have to after we just had a mecca bucca go at 22 i don't think the nfl views mecca bucca is a wide receiver one but i'm saying specifically for the packers like over a corner i'd like i'd like to know i don't know i'm very curious how his stock is gonna kind of ryan goodenkus we know you're watching just texas let us know i just so i don't have to make this pick again. I'm going to go with Revel. Okay. Actually, man, I think it's closer between him and Azaria

than people realize. And why I'll say that is not only is Azaria obviously healthy, but he is 20. He'll turn 21 right before camp. He's played over 300 snaps in man coverage. I think they're almost the same size. I want to double check that. I think they're both 6'1 1⁄2".

Yeah, oh wow, he was 6'1 1⁄2". Yeah, yeah, he's big. Rebels, not like Rebels that old. He'll be 23 when he enters camp on draft night. Both have long arms. Yeah, both are right under 6'2". Man, that's true. I actually, I think I would, it's a flip a coin.

I'll go Rebel here just because he's a little freakier, I think. Yeah. Like, before he got her, I think it was Bruce Feldman was like, he's going to run maybe sub 4'4". Yeah, like 4'3". At that size. Right. Had both corners.

Loved them both. And I think that Revel is stronger. So. Maybe. I don't know. It's hard to dictate when we watched Revel play again at ECU compared to watching Azaria was in like one-on-ones at the Senior Bowl. So that's where that's a little tricky.

But yeah, I'll go with Revel. I think this is a total coin flip between these two. And I think Azaria, his stock's been going really, really upward since the season ended uh vikings are up at number 24 i've said this before we're not doing trades in this mock but the vikings would have to love a player here at 24 i mean love for them to make this pick because right now they only have four picks in the draft they pick here at 24 they don't pick again until 97 so they would love to get more picks in this draft yeah but who wants this pick

who want me uh meme like there's not a player on the board where i'm like man i want to really make the big pay a big cost to jump up for that guy right now i don't know i don't know brother we got we got teams at the top of the second round that could jump up for jump up for well team has to love jackson dart i mean it doesn't just have to be jackson maybe starks is a good one i think i think starks is just wildly underappreciated at this point which is funny because i felt like i was low man on him last summer i agree with you uh i think the player that makes the most sense is azariah to be honest with you okay double checking minnesota's depth chart here i don't think that's wrong byron murphy shack griffin cambynum stefan

gilmore all those dudes are free agents now like some of them could be back but and they have mckay blackman but if you get yourself as ariah thomas you probably feel pretty good about how you're going to navigate free agency right well and then you can get a running back later in this draft because they're really good yeah i'll go as ari a thomas here so it was already 24 to the minnesota vikings now you're up with the texans at 25 oh this could be a tyler booker spot i'm just looking at tyler booker's name they do need offensive line help but man how do i not take one of the receivers in this spot yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but and i don't think it's a layup as much as burdens here but i think golden goes above burden now right it's a matter of what role you want them to play but man you have nico

collins on the outside and i can play golden in the slot while i'm waiting for tank to get healthy which is going to be a long road like let's be honest with ourselves here a lot of people in human history have been waiting for tanks to come you know give them reinforcement it has helped in the past i'll take i'll I'll take Matthew Golden in this spot and hope they can get their offensive line help not only in free agency, but on day two. Can I say this? I know what you're going to say, and please do.

He doesn't play at 429. He does not. He doesn't. He just, he doesn't. He doesn't run by a ton of people, and that's okay. He makes it work. He's a great route runner. He's got A-plus tracking, good hands.

Is it nice to know that it's there? Yes. Yes. But he doesn't play like he's a 4-2-9 player. Imagine if you just showed somebody a game each of him and Isaiah Bond, and you said, who's faster? Yeah, Isaiah Bond.

I would say every game. I'm not saying it means anything. I'm just saying. Every game that you showed me of those two, I would tell you that Isaiah Bond's a faster football player. Isaiah Bond would tell you he's a faster football player. Isaiah Bond would tell you a lot of stuff. What are your thoughts on fans at the combine and booing

i mean it's not a good thing it's not good it's insane it is not good can you imagine trevor you walked in your job boo will howard they booed the shit out of him obviously it's it's anti-ohio state people but imagine being at your job interview and somebody's in the back of the room just booing your ass. I actually kind of like that. That's Goggins' mentality. It was not a great look. It's Goggins' mentality.

Boo me at the interview so I could have more adversity. All right, Matthew Golden to the Texans at 25 uh rams at 26 matthew stafford in hand uh larry jackson's a free agent i right they didn't know i think they got the deal done they did get the deal done yeah there was a little bit of hesitation there i was like three year deal okay so larry jackson's coming back that's nice yeah he's saying screw you i'm here. Good. Makes drafting easier.

Man, they could use a corner. They really could. Would they think Maxwell Harrison here? 26? You and I were lower on him. Yeah, we were. It does feel a little early. But again, it's what we would do. No, it's your right.

You're right. Can't just talking him up. I'm not saying that he gets in the first round for sure, but I think this is where the conversation starts. As I'm looking at this, this is one of the hardest slots we've had. Yeah. Man, I almost feel like I would just take Malachi and figure it out. That's what I did in my written mock oh okay well because malachi is just you want to see me do it again malachi is just too good and i think that they would make the most of it let's

i mean luther burden is here. Right? Yeah, and Cooper Cupp is not going to be on this team. And Cooper Cupp's not going to be there, and Demarcus Robbins is a free agent. That's a good point. Wide receiver all of a sudden becomes a sneaky. And Tutuawa's a free agent. Yeah, that's interesting. So they have Puka Nakula, they have Jordan Whittington,

and then that's it. Nah, brother. Nah, we're going Luther Burden. You went with the fun pick. Yeah, we're going Luther Burden here. We're going luther burden you went with a fun pick yeah we're going luther burden here we're going with the burden i'm hearing rumors we're going luther burden 26 to the los angeles rams book it uh baltimore ravens you're up so the ravens on the clock they are a team that could probably use a little bit more pass rush. They are going to have a lot of interesting decisions

on the offensive line. Like, what happens at Ronnie Stanley? Doesn't that kind of dictate what happens with this pick, in a sense? Although... 100%. You would think that they find a way to bring him back, but nothing's guaranteed in this life.

As Greg Sciano once said that to me i i realized what were you what were you saying like hey greg how you doing beautiful day huh and he goes nothing's guaranteed in this life and then he just keeps walking honestly pretty much pretty much i basically said what's it like having a guy like Kyle Menungai going into this season who's a guaranteed 1,000-yard back? Now, Kyle went over 1,200 yards again this year. But Greg reminded me, nothing is guaranteed. And I said, you know what? That's fine.

That's some extreme coach shit right there. I was just trying to give Kyle Menungai a little love. Hey, man, you got a good football player. No, I mean, he's got to earn that every day. Every single time his feet hit the ground when he gets out of bed, he's got to earn that. Yeah, imagine saying that about, like, Saquon Barkley. Nope.

Got to do it again this year or else no one cares. Anyways, that's good times. All right, so once again, nothing guaranteed that ronnie stanley's back if that was the case you're looking in the josh simmons josh connerly bucket here yep that is tricky that is really tricky i feel like it's about time that we get josh simmons off the board to be honest with you i know i that he's going to be one of the more perplexing guys to mock draft this year but i'll i'll go with him in this spot okay when healthy you could argue he has much more talent than being the 27th overall that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying and

with him saying that his with him with him saying that his rehab is ahead of schedule and with us not hearing anything out of the combine of like yeesh right right right his knee is not good right then i believe him so i agree with you all right josh him is there to the baltimore ravens detroit lions 28 all right kevin seiler's a free agent mar Kevin Seidler's a free agent. Marcus Davenport's a free agent. Carlton Davis is a free agent. I mean, you got Ennis Raichard Jr.

You got Terran Arnold. You got those guys there. You feel good about it. Secondary's good to go. Defensive line, they still have Zedaria Smith. They have Josh Paschal as well. A lot of depth guys in the defensive line. Unrestricted free agents for them.

Is this that James Pierce spot? Is this that Mikel Williams spot? Is this that Nick Skorton spot? I think probably. Man, they took Raikstra on the second round. I don't even remember hearing his name called. No, they had a couple of veterans that played over him got he got hurt yes he got hurt yeah i wonder if we start to have the landon jackson conversation here at 28 with as good of a combine as he had yeah

possibly i mean it was the least confident yeah i've ever heard yeah i just said i like it possibly kind of wild that walter nolan's still on the board for us too by the way i know uh yeah but he'll go off the board here in a couple picks i'm not worried about it yeah now that i look at the board i mean nick squarton would be a home run to me here but i think i differ on this one. I don't know if he's their type, but I'm going to go James Pierce Jr. Okay. Because if you are allocating a lot of demand

to the left side of the defensive line with Aiden Hutchinson, DJ Reader, and Lee McNeil, and you are giving James Pierce Jr. just a one-on-one every single time with the offensive tackle, I like betting on that speed there. I really do. So I'm going to go with James Pierce Jr. for the Lions at 28. I know you were at a lot of the workouts.

I was watching them. And he ran in a hoodie. He did. So Eisen andj are on the broadcast like man can't remember a lot of those like why would you run in a hoodie basically yeah so of course they had stacy you know get on the detective case and it was not verbatim but pierce was basically like i forgot my shirt at the hotel. It's like, this is the biggest moment of your life. He should have just done it shirtless.

I was thinking that. I wonder if you're allowed to do that. No, there's no way to do it. There's no way you're allowed. You should be allowed. You should be. I would feel my fastest without a shirt. I think all of them would.

100%. Yeah, all right. Commanders at 29. I'm taking Nick Skorton squarton here got there i mean smart man he he is a really good player this is late for him he's got good hands he was playing too heavy this year i had hit both him and shamar turner and i was really asking them about the scheme they were in and it's's just, they didn't complain about it. I kind of pushed it out of them. It's just not a numbers scheme, that A&M defense.

They had a lot of responsibilities. They had to worry about gap control and contain. It wasn't like, let me pin my ears back and just rush like a maniac and pile up numbers. And I think him playing at a lighter weight and getting a little bit more chances to kind of pin it back and just rush like a maniac and pile up numbers and i think him playing at a lighter weight and getting a little bit more chances to pin to kind of pin it back and go scorton's going to kind of remind everybody who he was at purdue the bills i mean they'd be doing backflips at this point if the board falls like this walter nolan's on the board derrick harman's on the board

darius alexander's on the board right I mean, Tyleek Williams is here. TJ Sanders is here. It just could not have broken better for the Buffalo Bills. It feels weird that Walter Nolan is still here. I don't really disagree with a lot of the picks that we have made already in this mock draft. So I think just like... People have to fall, man.

You know? And it's true. And obviously we're doing this mock and it's hard to not have team needs in mind when we do a mock, when we do our first like post-free agency mock. I'm wondering if, you know, Walter kind of shoots up because, you know, 17 for the Bengals.

You could have very easily picked Walter. Oh yeah, that's who it was between. 12 for the Dallas Cowboys. I could have very well picked Walter Nolan there. So maybe we're just, we're not taking that into account enough here for this mock, but we'll see. 12 12 for the Dallas Cowboys I could have very well picked Walter Nolan there so maybe maybe we're just we're we're not taking that into account enough here for this mock but we'll see I think a lot I agree with a lot of the logic of how we came to some of the picks but I'll take him here for the Buffalo Bills supremely talented uh incredibly high run defense grade this past

season he even had an improved grade against true pass sets the passage win rate was going up the solo run stop percentage was very very high for him so a really good run defender first and foremost and then somebody that you hopefully uh can teach some pass rush moves too so no one to the buffalo bills i think i think is a perfect fit for him 31 the chiefs i'm going with josh connerly here they need to get better they need to get better at tackle he's a true tackle this is like one of the easier picks of the entire mock draft. Yep. I truly think that it is offensive tackle no matter what for the Philadelphia Eagles. Or, sorry, for the Kansas City Chiefs. I think that it has to be.

The Eagles, now rounding out this first round before we get to the second round of the mock, you know, they build around the trenches a lot. I think they have some trench players that they already like who are in reserve who might be able to start at right guard for them. But Tyler Booker is here. Oh, wow. He did play at an SEC school. And when it comes to losing Milton Williams, losing Josh Sweat,

losing Brandon Graham. They have Mauro Ijeomo. They have Nolan Smith. They have Jalex Hunt. They have Bryce Huff. And when it comes to the interior guys, they have Jordan Davis. They have Jalen Carter. They have Byron Young, the one from Alabama, not the edge rusher who plays for the Los

Angeles Rams. So they certainly could go defensive tackle here but i am gonna go with tyler booker and think that they could just plug him right where yeah wow that's there you go so again i think the nfl is higher on tyler booker just overall yeah they are i i think this is totally fine like me as a draft analyst i think this is totally fine. Like me as a draft analyst, I think this is, okay, yeah, sure. All right, Tyler Booker right here. Back of the first round. I like it.

A lot of people think he's going a lot higher than that, and that's where you lose me when it comes to the total value versus how he tests athletically, what he is when it comes to zone blocking situations. But when you're plugging him into the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, he's just going to be an ass kicker, especially playing next to Jordan Mailata. And, well, I guess he wouldn't play next to Mailata.

Landon Dickerson plays next to Mailata. But playing next to Lane Johnson. No slouch there. Future Hall of Famer Lane Johnson. So I'll go Tyler Booker. And that rounds out the first round. So we're going to get to the second round as well. Going to go a little bit more rapid fire there.

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We'll talk about the prospects a little bit, but we'll sort of base it off of what we did in the first round. You are up with the Cleveland Browns at number 33, who have the top pick there. And Cam Ward was the selection here at number two. So what are you doing for the Cleveland Browns at 33? I'm taking Amari and Hampton. Obviously size, speed.

This gets the, you know, Nick Chubb, my test free agency. This gives Cam Ward a true workhorse three down back that he could lean on right away. You know, when I was thinking about it, when we were going through the first round and even when I was doing my written mock draft, I feel like we're going to get multiple first round backs this year. I just don't know how to do that yet without free agency playing out.

Right. So Hampton's like the next guy off the board, I think. So it makes sense that you would go with him here at the very top. So Hampton at the very top. So they go quarterback and they go running back. A couple of the offense there. New York Giants took Travis Hunter at number three. No Shadur Sanders here.

We think that they're going to do something in the pro market for quarterback. Dart? I kind of feel like this is Jackson Dart. Yeah, I think so too. Right? In this scenario, yeah. Jackson Dart or Jalen Milrow? I think it's probably this is Jackson Dart. Yeah, I think so too. Right? In this scenario, yeah. Jackson Dart or Jalen Milrow? I think it's probably one of the two.

I'll go Jackson Dart here for the Giants. It means they get Travis Hunter at the top. They get Jackson Dart at the top of round two. So that's their haul there, I feel like. Coming out of Indianapolis, I want to make it very clear. I didn't hear a unanimous, oh yeah, the league loves jackson dart like he's he's totally going top 10 like you got to think about him as a close qb3 in this class i didn't

hear that but i did hear you know some people in the nfl like him so it makes me think that this is a worthy range here to get him off the board at the beginning of the second round all right so the titans are back on the clock here at. I think they need some pass rush help here still. Oh, after Abdul Carter? Oh, yeah, they forgot Carter went, not Ward. Good correction. You made the pick! God, a lot of time.

We've been on here for a long time. A long time. Good catch, Trevor. People, people. That would have been bad. People say they hate Subway. My brother in Christ, you made the sandwich. It's that at its end.

Perfect. So they got Abdul Carter. They pass on quarterback. Our thought process was that we think they're going to solve that in the pro market as well. This is tricky because tackle would make a lot of sense here but we're looking at true tackles on the board who's left it just we had that go that run go at the end of the first round because we had both Simmons and Connerly go in like a five pick range yeah so yeah they got off the board pretty quick the value of that doesn't really add

up corners there was a good run on corners in that scenario i you know honestly this is probably another team that this is a team that could probably still use another wide receiver right i mean when you yeah totally i mean nick west-Kikine is a free agent, even. And so is Tyler Boyd. Right, and they haven't gotten anything out of Traylon Burks. Yeah. I'm looking at the wide receiver market here. Let's look at how this board actually fell. Io Manor here. This is where Higgins comes off the board.

This is where Higgins comes off the board, yeah. You get size, you get a little speed. Somebody that can play above the rim. Higgins can play inside and outside great combine just an alt which is a fantastic combine for jayden higgins so getting off the board at the top of the second round jags at 36 having going mason graham in the first round oh gray zabel is perfect for this team this is exactly what they would want. This is his range. They need interior offensive line help.

Mitch Morris hasn't been what they wanted. Brandon Sherb's a free agent. Gray Zabel makes way too much sense to play either center or guard for the Jags. So they'll come away with Mason Graham and Gray Zabel. I like that strategy for them. I explored them potentially going offensive line at the very top. I guess they could have gone offensive line because they're still, you Mike Hill Williams Darius Alexander Tyleek Williams there's still a lot of these guys here but man it just feels like if the Jags are going defensive and offensive trenches this is a great haul for them so I'll

go great Gray's able at 36 who I think could very well be a first round or two Raiders back on the clock at 37 you had them go Ashton Gentry in the first round. I'm going to get one of the better value picks in this entire draft than Malachi Starks. I don't know if they'll be able to bring back Trayvon Merrig, but with that lingering up in the air, there's no way they could pass on what Starks could do on the back end of their defense. There you go.

I would love it. I would absolutely love it. There's some heavy hitters that are still out there right now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. All right, so I had the Patriots take in Tetreault McMillan earlier. love it there's some heavy hitters that are still out there right now oh yeah oh yeah oh man all right so i had the patriots taking tetra mcmillan earlier man it's basically like what offensive lineman could i get here man but the defense man there's so many good defensive linemen

let me look at their let me go look at their defensive. Would they take one of these defensive linemen? Would they hit free agency hard? It's cloudy because their best defensive lineman in Christian Barmore dealt with blood clots last year. Dude. Derek Harmon or Darius Alexander? Oh, wow. Studs. Yeah, that's not easy.

No, it's not. I don't know who the NFL is going to love more. They tested very similarly, too. I know. I'll go Harmon. I'll go Derek Harmon here, just because I have him ranked a little bit higher, and I wonder if the NFL is a little bit higher, too.

The value is too good. I'm sorry, Patriots fans. You just got to hit offensive line real hard in free agency, and if you do, you could have a hell of a tall like tetra mcmillan and derrick harman all right so the bears are on the clock at 39 i'm also going to get to pick for them at 41 which makes lucky you which makes this strategy kind of interesting at will campbell at 10 they got will campbell at 10 i am looking at edge rush and running back in this spot. I mean, Mike Hill has got to be one. I was just going to say,

this is actually where I think he should be drafted, ironically. I don't see Mike Hill getting that much further than this in the draft. The Bears are going to take the talent of Mike Hill Williams and hope to develop him into more than just a plus run defender. Yep, yep. Okay, good. I mean, that's where he should go. And this, I don't know. of Mike Hill Williams and hope to develop him into more than just a plus run defender. Yep. Yep. Okay. Good.

I mean, that's where he should go. And this, I don't know. You know, I agree with you. I know. Longer combo. This is great for the Bears right now. I like how this is lining up. All right.

So New Orleans Saints, they went Tyler Warren at number nine. I think Darius Alexander would be a nice pick for them. Do we have any offensive tackle options? I don't think we did. Not until you get, well, Ursary. Yeah, I don't know. I know, this is not. I don't think the NFL is going to be that high on Ursary.

These are all third round picks that we're staring at. And Jackson's a guard. I know he had to fill in a pinch at tackle. He's a guard. Yeah, yeah. I would agree with you there. I wonder if they'd take... No, okay.

They got the offensive weapon in Warren. We got to get a defensive lineman. I think Darius Alexander probably makes the most sense for them. Somebody end this Darius Alexander run. He's been a candidate for every pick. I'm making him the New Orleans Saints. He just can't fall too much further than that. So Darius Alexander, all right, the Saints now pairing Tyler Warren

and Darius Alexander as a little one-two there. So you're back up with Chicago. So we've got Will Campbell, Mike L. Williams. My God. What are we doing? We are just getting nasty, hard-nosed rugged players and i'm gonna keep that going with quinch on judkins in this spot yeah all right yeah let's get downhill let's get physical third running back off the board yeah i guess it's not that much of a stretch

i'm telling you right now it's not that much of a stretch it's not all right yeah damn look at these grades i mean judkins elite combine two elite combine bears fans have pushed back hard uh when we have given them running backs at one of these two spots before really very yeah wouldn't you want a good running back on your roster would be my question that's that's all i'm asking maybe i've given them cam scataboo before and maybe they just don't like Cam Scadaboo. Let's see what they think about Quinn Sean Judkins. Yeah, please let me know what you think of this. I think he's going to be a star, by the way, Judkins.

He's a stud, man. That's why this year was so frustrating, because he was the player that we wanted him to be sort of while he was at Ole Miss. He was our borderline RB1, right? It was Judkins, and it was actually Jensie. He was my RB1. Jensie was two.

Going into the season. And then he just didn't run with that same sort of. Until when it mattered most. So. Until when it mattered most. 100%. That kind of counts. Judkins off the board here.

Jets up at 42. They took Armand Membu at number seven. You're sitting kind of nice here. I know I am. Ty Leak out there, Jack Besch. There's Bull Rush. You have options galore. Bull Rush McIntyre.

Bull Rush McIntyre. Although they need to bring the beef next to Quinan. You're sitting right next. Ty Leak. I think I like Ty Leak the most. Man, what a beefy draft for a team that needs the beef. Membu and Ty Leak. I feel like the NFL is going to be real high on Maxwell Harrison now

after that combine, too. He's still here. Yeah, my corner take with the Jets is they're going to let DJ Reed walk. They paid Michael Carter, who's a really good nickel. They are going to pay sauce. So they're either going to let one of the young guys on the roster, like Quanta Stiggers compete, or they'll look for a value corner like here and on throughout the draft.

But they have so many more pressing needs than who the corner is after sauce and Michael Carter to do that here. That's just my take. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I was leaning here. That's just my take. Really? Okay. I was leaning Maxwell. They are. Well, free agency will tell us a lot.

They are awful besides Quinn and Williams at D-tackle. Like, unplayable levels. I think Ty Leak would probably be their guy then. Yes. And Glenn's defense needs that two-gapping brick wall. All right, we're going Tyleek then. We're going Tyleek for the Jets. Jets fans are going.

Look at the beef. Look at the beef for the Jets. They're going to love that draft, Jets fans. Tyleek Williams, Armand Membu. Let's get physical. Eric Glenn, call us, consulting. San Francisco 49ers took Mike Green at number 11. Yeah, now this is where

they usually dive into the offensive line bracket. Yes. Let's look at their roster real quick. Obviously, big Trent's at left tackle. Aaron Banks. Pony had a really good year at right guard. Banks is a free agent. Wow. That's a big

one. He feels like the kind of guy that gets paid a free agent. Wow. That's a big one. He feels like the kind of guy that gets paid a lot of money elsewhere, but we'll see. Donovan Jackson could fit their guard spot. That is, you are all over it. All over it. Donovan Jackson. I was on the interior O-line. I'm like, how is he not here?

He's on tackles. He's at tackles. Donovan Jackson, I love that fit a lot. I really like this player player he does not get the love he deserves and he did have to play out of position this year when simmons got hurt yep great left guard replacement for that niners line who has played tackle before yep and even as you see right here like really good grades when it mattered most he held his own offensive tackle and the whole texas defensive line is nfl players yeah same with o He held his own. Playing offensive tackle. And the whole Texas defensive line is NFL players.

Yeah. Same with Oregon. Held his own really well. No doubt. I would love that haul for them. Donovan Jackson and Mike Green, I think that's really great for the San Francisco 49ers. Dallas Cowboys.

I gave them Jahad Campbell at 12. Here at 44. Do they pick Scam Scadabo at 44, do they pick Scam Scatabow at 44? I don't think so. Not with the other guys on the board. But we might have a different read on this. My read is Scatabow's not going before Caleb Johnson, Dylan Sampson, and Travion Henderson. That's just my read.

I don't agree with it. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Look, if the NFL wants to be wrong, they can be wrong. They can pay billions of dollars to be wrong. It's fine. They would need an edge rusher. We got Landon Jackson, Prince LeMond, Miellon, Brady Swinson,

or Braden Swinson, who I think is a really good player. Yeah, he wasn't in my, my initial rankings. He wasn't in our Ed Rush group, and John Ledyard bullied me into watching him. Yeah,

that will be corrected. He's very good. He's very, very good. I want to give him O-line. You could also argue wide receiver for them unless you think it's Jonathan Mingo hours. No, I don't think it's real Jonathan Mingo hours.

The disdain in your voice. I think. I wonder if they'd pick Trey Harris here. You think he goes this high? I hope so. That would be, Trey Harris here. You think he goes this high? I hope so. That would be... Trey Harris is awesome. I mean, yeah, it's a little early.

You're right, but... I'm going to take Trey Harris here. I have no problem if they did this. Yeah, I think this is kind of where the range starts for him. I don't hate wide receiver. I would take Alec Iomainer. I feel as though the Cowboys would go for a little bit more flash. Okay.

Do you ever sit and wonder sometimes, like, you know how we look at quarterbacks and wide receivers that are drafted into the NFL together, and one guy might turn into a star and the other guy doesn't do anything? Mike Evans and Johnny Manziel. That's like the pinnacle example. Right. I'm not saying Dart. Dart will be drafted over Trey Harris, but sometimes I sit there and I'm like,

man, in three years, are we going to be like, why didn't people care that Trey Harris was doing all these things for Jackson Dart? Maybe, man. I think about it sometimes. Did Zach Wilson play with Puka Nakua? He had to have. Right?

Yeah, he had. How much was it? I don't think Puka never had a big year in college that's the funniest thing let's see let's see if they had any sort of overlap i don't know if they would have no puka transferred from washington and came the following year right yeah yes yeah yeah yep he was he was one year late he was one year late on on Zach Bolson I just that that one also popped into my head just randomly so well what's the Antonio Brown one who is his college quarterback I guess well that's a combo for another day but that's when he is central Michigan so I i don't know if there would have been a i'm pretty sure he was drafted

after his college quarterback no way really yeah i'm pretty sure why is this in my this is like randomly in my brain i did not know this who's his college quarterback now i gotta know. Now I'm dying to know. Who is his college quarterback? Dan Lefevre. Who was not, who was drafted in the sixth round. Oh, wow.

Where was Antonio Brown drafted? Wasn't he drafted in the sixth round? Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Sixth round. What pick number? Oh, my God. What pick number was Dan?

Dan Lefevre was... Are we talking 2010 draft? 2010 draft. Pick 181. Wow. Antonio Brown was 195. Oh, my God. We got there.

There's weird things stuck in my brain and that was one of them. That's about as weird as it gets, brother. That is about as useless of a well-known sports fact as I have. Yeah, I have problems. That's not even winning you trivia on Tuesdays. This is literally nothing for me. Nothing for me nothing for me nothing productive it just sits in there and occupies space instead of accomplishing the

task when my wife leaves for the day she asked me to do i go you know dan lavever was drafted before don't you brown instead of doing laundry yep oh my god and now you all know it so do with it what you will i bestow this power upon you 45 the cults you took jade baron for them at 14 which is pretty sweet i'm not gonna lie correctly yeah that was a good selection on your part yeah now I still want a tight end for this team. I just won't quit. It's a good year for one. It is. Mason Taylor or Elijah Arroyo. How about your boy T-Ferg?

T-Ferg. I mean, I'm not at 45. No, no, no. I'm talking about him at 45. He reminded everybody that he is an NFL player. Yes. T-Ferg. They call him Mr. Consistency. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Unlimited.

Oh, God. Speaking of the worst of things in brains. Mason Taylor or Elijah Arroyo for the Colts? Yeah, that's a tough one, huh? I think they'd take Mason Taylor. I think so, too. So I'm going to go with that because we were trying to predict the picks. Yeah, legacy NFL pick.

The Atlanta Falcons now at number 46. Hey, did you know his dad's Jason? Did you know his dad's Jason? Yes. Hey, did you know his uncle is Zach Thomas? Oh, man. We have limited time right now, and I am just doing the worst job of maximizing it. Dan Lefevre and Mason Taylor facts.

Oh, wait. What's the... You're doubling down on it. No, what's the one that everybody quoted? Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard. We already knew that one. Florida State player. All right, we're getting closer grandfather uncle was jack nicholas who was it oh no i'm not gonna answer this but that's another one that's another one the tight end slash fullback dude yeah who was it i'm not gonna remember the

son of a not gonna remember the name the comments are gonna murder us yeah they'll get it make them do some work homework uh atlanta falcons at 46 they're all screaming at their radios right now hoping praying that it just you know something clicks in our heads falcons at 46 uh jill and walker in the first round who to beat your night could actually um they're not gonna take Xavier Watts uh they could take no this is uh where Maxwell you're in hell right now no this is where Maxwell would go off the board they need a corner they need a corner opposite AJ Terrell yeah and Maxwell with with even though we were a little bit lower on him the way I think the NFL is going to talk about this guy it's second round but it could potentially even be the back end of the first. So, Harrison to Falcons at 46.

Alright, the Cardinals are up next. This, to me, is defensive line all the way after they got Will Johnson in the first round. Good take, good take. Yes, yes. That was your selection. Nice job. Do I go an undersized

guy with twitch and pass rush like TJ Sanders, or do I go a beefy presence like Alfred Collins or Farmer from Florida State? Yeah, tricky, right? I think Collins gets drafted above Farmer. Yeah. But what do you think about TJ Sanders and Shamar Turner? I think teams really like Shamar Turner, by the way. I think so, too.

Not at 47. No, not at 47. This might be the TJ Sanders spot if you want a little disruption. Let's do it. Yeah, I'm down with it. Yeah, Bull Rush McIntyre to the Cardinals at 47. Yeah, I think he's awesome. I love TJ Sanders.

So you took Nicky Manwari at number 13 for the Miami Dolphins. Who am I going gonna take for him i mean probably offensive line after you you retired teron armstead on the show yeah probably feels like it has to does it have to be ariante ursery no you know who is their offensive lineman? Like to a T? Marcus Bowe. Marcus Bowe. Yeah, but are they going to take Marcus Bowe at 48?

I don't know. I'm not Chris Greer. What do I look like? Chris Greer. All right, I'll take Marcus Bowe. He does feel like their offensive tackle. Yeah. Did you see, De'll take Marcus. All right, I'll take Marcus Bowe. He does feel like their offensive tackle. Yeah. Did you see, Devin reported this.

He said that Marcus Bowe loved playing basketball growing up, and he thought he might have gone pro in basketball, and he just modeled his basketball game after Derrick Rose, which does that not make so much sense watching him play offensive tackle? Yes. Just like the crazy feet footwork yeah everything that he does is based around first step explosives yep and quick that's why i think he would be like an all-star center but yeah could be could be i don't know if he goes this high but uh we'll go marcus bow here bangles at 49 i know i took a defensive tackle kenneth grant for them at 17. Wanted to bring the beef. T. Higgins

franchise tagged. They need... Oh, dude. My exact phrase was, they need offensive line help. Why'd you uh... Xavier Watts is there, and their new defense coordinator's Al Golden. I know, but they need a guard, don't they? They just released Alex Kappa.

Yes. Who are you gonna pick? I have options. I have plenty of options. That didn't sound very confident. That didn't sound very confident. As I soared through them. That sounded very ambiguous and scrambling. I can't take Savanaia to play guard.

You could. I can't take Ariante Ursary to play guard. You could. I think they'd take Xavier Watts over those guys. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, why go into the season with a good offensive line Joe Burrows never needed that let's see how it goes this time why be good when you can be bad yeah that's what I've always said true all right so I'll let you make the pick you know I'm not hiding no I'm gonna take Watts with the caveat that spoiler alert if you're pissed that you didn't solve a need on this

show we have an answer for you in the future so don't say this hall can't be this because you need this because we might still walk away with what you're hoping for in a very very near show did i sell that well you did sell that very well stay tuned that's why you have to subscribe you don to subscribe. If you don't subscribe, you'll miss it. And then you'll walk away with a haul that's incomplete and your team will fail. Dire, dramatic, but also correct. Seattle Seahawks are number 50.

We went Kelvin Banks Jr. in the first round. Don't need Jack Bish don't need Trey Amos that's rude man Landon Jackson this could be a Landon Jackson spot I think I like

let me look at linebacker Demetrius Knight's there because I want to get Demetrius Knight off the board because I think he's awesome. I wrote him up last night because you've been hyping this guy up for weeks. So I actually wrote him up last night, like final report. Like really did not want to like him

because he'll be 25 as a rookie, and I really liked him. It's so hard to not love this dude. I really liked him. Like there's some come to balance love this dude i really liked him like there's some come to balance issues where he blows by tackle attempts but he is a wrecking ball he's smart he's physical he has good eyes i really liked him and i was like this is not the kind of player that i want to like but i'm the jack nicholson gift right now i'm just good call

good call yeah i think we didn't do linebackers on this show yet but i'll the jack nicholson gift right now i'm just good call good call yeah i think we didn't do linebackers on this show yet but i'll say i like him better than some players that are consistently consensus ranked higher than him at the position well i don't know if one of those players is carson swesinger but i liked him better i liked night so so i also did i don't know if the league is gonna agree no they probably won't. But Schlesinger is also... We'll get into it for the linebacker show. Screw it. I'm taking Demetrius Knight.

I'm doing it. You love to see it. Too good of a football player. 51, the Bucs. Donovan Ezeraku was the pick at 19. I'd like to get a defensive back here, and I'm leaning Trey Amos. What is your thoughts on that, please, Mr. Buccaneer?

Or Darian Porter. I coulder? Or Darian Porter. I could be talked into Darian Porter. They already have Zion, so I don't know if they will think they can hit the lottery twice. Can't hit if you don't play the numbers. I feel as though Benjamin Morrison will be more their guy. I kind of forgot about Morrison, who I still don't have. I think things are trending the right way medically for him by the way i agree again i didn't hear anything negatively about benjamin morrison's hip same and a couple of weeks ago

i reached out about it and heard that like no no no like his hip will be good to go he'll be all right let's go morrison yeah i think that he is feisty over there corner for todd bowles the denver broncos now up on the board at 52 we have them taking colson lovelet at 20 i do feel as though this is where i'm going to get carson sweshinger off the board there's not really a safety that intrigues me linebackers a big need for them this is safety i love that here but i don't i don't know where he's ultimately gonna go who winston i wonder if they take swessinger over wins yeah it wouldn't shock me i think the league like you said i think the league likes swessinger more than we have been because uh i they have cody barton but he's an unrestricted free agent outside of that like

they have drew sanders who's sort of like a linebacker edge hybrid he's an unrestricted free agent. Outside of that, they have Drew Sanders, who's sort of like a linebacker-edge hybrid. He's a blitzer. That's what he was in college. Yeah, I'm going to go Sweshinger here. I think he's the better pick for them. So you're up with the Steelers, who picked Shador in the first round. Yeah, they got Shador, need defensive back help, and need a wide receiver.

I kind of want to take Porter here, but do you think they need a wide receiver I kind of want to take Porter here but do you think they need a wide receiver more knowing that I mean it's George Pickens and then kind of see what happens and if you took Shador you need wide receiver help around him the wide receiver I would take by the way in this scenario I think for them is Jalen K noel for context oh yes even with roman wilson yeah i know they just didn't get anything because he was banged up out of roman wilson this year so that's a good point i think they'd take basher io manor over no who is great i don't want to i would rather then i'm gonna take bash because io manor the pickens problem begins where you're just always playing in a phone booth.

Like both him and Pickens rarely ever run by anybody, but they just make plays above the rim. I don't want a second guy like that. Now Io Manor is a great blocker, so is Besch. I'll go Besch here for the Steelers. Okay. I think that does complement it pretty well. Chargers took Emeka Igka um in the first round

i think that they would probably go with like landon jackson princely uman miel and braden swinson one of those dudes here maybe jack sawyer if they like jack sawyer this much i i i don't know i know we talked about jack sawyer at the back end of the first round. I'm not convinced that that happens. No, no, no. I'm away from that. Yeah, I am too. But 54 is a different story. It's probably where his range is, like 50 to 75.

All right, just because I haven't heard any... Ow, maybe he does go with Landon Jackson here. You think they'd go Landon Jackson or Jack Sawyer? Landon Jackson. Okay, all right, we're going Landon Jackson. going play him on the edge don't play him inside for sure yeah yeah he's he's an edge rusher for it but he can kick in inside he could do it we love just like the edge tape better yep totally yep totally all right so green bay at 55 i had them go savone revel in the first round get a long fast athletic corner they might lose josh myers in free agency okay or it feels like i want to make sure that's it feels like they will

which is kind of interesting here do you go with a big wide receiver like io manor or do you look at the interior offensive line market interior line market yeah but again what are the options again like i don't think they're in the business of just adding any wide receiver i think they're in the same category that the carolina panthers are just because wide receivers in need for them doesn't mean any wide receiver i agree but my point is that wide receiver room is going to look different in some capacity, in my opinion, this year. Jared Wilson and Tate Ratledge, I think, could be second-round picks.

I think so, too. Wilson's just a freak, huh? Yeah, he's a crazy athlete. He could come in, and especially if they want to run more zone stuff, he's perfect for them. He is, because he can get out of the gate and absolutely boogie. I don't know if he'll go this high, but you talk about... I think he's looking more third or fourth round, but...

Okay, I would agree. I think I would agree. That's why this is... You take I.O. Maynard, then. This is tricky. I'll go Alec I.O. Maynard here. My boy. Big wide receiver. Grew up playing hockey in Canada, which is not common for an NFL prospect

before he realized, hey, I'm pretty good at this football thing. Time to move to the U.S. Worked out pretty well. I've got the Buffalo Bills up at number 56. Trey Amos is here, and it feels like a steal, to be honest with you. They've made out well now in both slots with value. Yeah, so I'll go i'll go try amos

this one's this one's too valuable for me i feel like his talent could be fringe first round so getting him at 56 is excellent with them uh taking walter nolan in the first round but we also still have another buffalo pick here coming up as well so the texans are on the clock i had them go wide receiver in the first round matthew golden matthew golden i need offensive line help here this is where big jonah could come up this is where savanai comes off the board or if you think tate ratledge could go second round he could why mylam will be in that conversation like the at least oh yeah my in the conversation savanai though i think if you take him and play him at guard that's where where you get the best outcome for him.

Yeah, I do agree with you. And he moved super well for his size of the combine. Yeah. So I could see it. Panthers at 58. Had them taking Shamar Stewart at number eight. Could definitely use a corner. Darian Porter's a pretty good bet to make there.

And he's kind of like the last one. I don't think there's a safety. Oh, Kevin Winston Jr. Yeah. Also Alfred Collins to play next to. Derrick Brown. Derrick Brown. Derrick Brown. I like a lot of this.

Who do you think the NFL is higher on? Alfred Collins, Darian Porter, or Kevin Winston Jr.? That might be one of the best trios you could have used for that question. Winston, you have injury. Collins, you have kind of no pass rush tape, and the testing, I need to double check, but I remember being concerned about something. And then you said Porter, who played for six years

but was a kind of one-year starter at best. Yeah, yeah, he was. That's like one of the hardest questions you could ask. I would just always default to the traits and go with Porter. But Winston, I think, is the best football player of the three. I was leaning towards Collins, actually.

Let's see. Let's see how it goes. Well, you know what Collins can do. From day one, he could stop the run. Like, from day one. On multiple alignments. I'm looking at Caroline's step chart here. Yeah, he's crunching the numbers. Yeah, I'm crunching the numbers.

Let's see what the equation spits out. 38.33, repeating, of course. Chance of survival. They've got Shai Tuttle. They have A'shaun Robinson. They've got Derek Brown. So they're all right there oh man they're so thin at corner all right i'm gonna go darian porter here until free agency

tells me otherwise so darian porter too man just two athletic freaks for caroline to go into mark stewart is kind of insane yeah ravens at. I had them take, I believe, Josh Simmons. Yes, Josh Simmons at 27. I'm going to get them an edge rusher and JT Tuohy Maloa out here at 59. Okay. Heavy-handed. All right. Edge setter.

Teammates. Hey, you like that? Practice against each other already. There you go. All right. Lions at 60. I went with James Pierce Jr. there for them. I feel like offensive line.

They're okay at offensive line, I guess, now that I'm saying it. But Anthony Belton, I feel like, is their type. They don't need to pick him at 60. Ariante Ursary, maybe? Because they could kick him in the guard. Don't hate that. Linebackers, are there good linebacker that's left i feel like there are yeah there are ah chris paul jr that's poo to you pal sorry sorry poo paul poo paul jr

that's a fun player for the middle of their defense i I was going to say, I could get down with that. Jalen Reeves, maybe it's not going to be there. Derek Barnes, a free agent. Alex Anzalone's dealt with injury. They've got Jack Campbell. All right,

we'll go pooh ball here. Linebacker from Ole Miss. Commanders is 61. I had them take Nick Skorton in the first round. Now they get help in the offensive line, the trenches on the other side of the ball. I am going to go with Ariante Ursary. Okay.

Need a tackle. Need a rip. That, to me, makes sense for them. Yeah. Makes a lot of sense. I do like that, especially with the injury to, oh, my gosh. Their best offensive lineman, of course, from Texas. Somebody, somebody, somebody, please.

I got you. I'm working on it. I'm asking the spreadsheet to tell me it's just i'm i'm just i'm head over i'm just the water is just piling down i'm drowning this is an absolute disaster sam cosme thank you buffalo bill is up at number 62 just moving on on. Walter Dolan and Trey Amos. Can we go Princely? You could do it. Just the Ole Miss connection.

You actually could do it, which is really funny. I actually could do it. Ooh, this might have been a good Pooh Paul location. If you're just keeping the Ole Miss trend. Committing so hardcore to this. Hmm. Oh, I mean, what if we just double down Alfredfred collins why not honestly i don't hate that oh jared ivy though i'm not saying that because of

the old misconnection no you absolutely are i do i do really like jared ivy let's look at buffalo let's look at depth chart, make sure we're not missing anything. I got Cole Bishop to be able to step in. I have a stool Douglas, but he's an upcoming free agent. We already gave them Trey most. The, ah,

they do need, they do need just overall defensive line depth. I would give them Omar Norman a lot, but they sort of already have that in Ed Oliver. Right. Yeah. No, I think it would be another beefy pick. And it was Walter Nolan who we had them get?

Yes. No, I would think more two-gapping. There's a lot of ways you can go here. They have Dwayne Carter Carter who's sort of that one gap yes absolutely defensive tackle they have Solomon or Javon Solomon to play Von Miller's not the same player he was before AJ Epinesa it doesn't give them a ton in pass rush I'm actually gonna go Kyle Kennard now that I'm looking at it wow what a pivot yeah I'm going out I'm going out of left field I just saw Kyle Kennard's name really productive dude edge rusher

another defensive line pick we're going Kennard here to the bills all right Chiefs at 63 had them take Josh Connerly in the first round going Alfred Collins here they need somebody that can play nose tackle Collins has done a ton of that in Texas stop the run protect the passer stop the run protect the passer stop the run you win a games. Yeah. Tyler Booker for the Philadelphia Eagles in the first round. Shamar Turner, maybe? Yeah. Jared Ivey? Wouldn't Jared Ivey?

Maybe? They could take a third wide receiver here. Oh, Josh Farmer is here too. Hmm. What's their safety spot like? Did we never take Winston? No, because Winston's still here. Man, that would be so Eagles.

CJ Gardner-Johnson. Oh, they have Sidney Brown too. Yeah, they've actually got depth. And they have Louis Seed? When did that happen? Louis Seed just somehow ends up there. I actually like Elijah Roberts too. Yeah, they're...

DB room got kind of crowded. Although after releasing Slay... Dude, Braden Swenson was so good this year. Is it corner time i don't think that's the problem that group just thinned out here well i think jacob parish is a stud but they're not gonna take him and play him in the nickel

so it doesn't fit at all no no i wouldn't take corner here i think it's between princely monmiel and braden swinson man princely princely going there and playing at like 248 and just emptying the bag of pass rush moves i mean he could absolutely be a designated pass for them but i feel like they already have that yeah well that's where they signed bryce huff to be and it just didn't didn't go the way they hoped. I'm going Braden Swinson. We're doing it. We're going Braden Swinson. There we go. That's the draft.

Two-round mock draft for you, folks. Two and a half hours. Hopefully you enjoyed it. Well. I am not reading off all those names. You cannot pay me to do that, is what he's saying. I am absolutely not reading off all those names. This was a lot of fun.

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Connor teased it. Coming later this week. You think we need one more? Yeah. We're going to need another. Yeah. All right. I think we'll get one more.

We're doing the third round, baby. We're doing the third round. So we're going to take this and this is not the end. We're going to give you a full third round. We talked about this a little bit before. We want to set up these total draft hall, draft strategy ideas. So we are giving you a third round. We're going to spend even more time on that third round.

We're going to talk about, okay, what team's vision and strategy could be for those third round selections. So it's not just who we're going to take in the mock, but we're going to use this mock as the guide. And we're going to sort of give you that third round mock draft here to give it a three round mock feel. But we're also going to have deeper conversations about everything that could be on the board for them in the late parts of day two. Connor, anything else before we get out of here?

Nope, that covers it. Got to get ready for round three. Already nervous. I'm excited, baby. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. It's going to be sick. Keep going. I love it uh can't wait to hear from all you guys thank you so much for watching and listening to the NFL

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