NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 2-ROUND POST SENIOR BOWL MOCK DRAFT

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 My wife called me a child for buying a Costco box of uncrustables to prep for the storm. Come to find out she's never had one. How do I proceed? Divorce. Get a new wife. You had. Bad scouting. Did you even interview her at the NFL comline?
Starting point is 00:00:12 Convert. Did you even do a private visit before you got married? Welcome to the opening bell. The NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Trevor Sikkim of Connor Rogers here with you guys for Connor. What is one of the most anticipated episodes that we do every single year? And that is the two round. post senior bull mock draft.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We got not 32 picks, but 64 picks that we are going to be going through here today. So no excuses for the people that are like, hey, you don't get to my team. They're picking in the second round. We're getting to them today. We're giving you all sorts of senior bowl analysis, updated analysis from our player rankings that we've been doing over the last month and a half. So it's going to be a good check in for the entire draft class as we see and how it's going to shape out. Connor, how you doing, my friend? I'm good, man.
Starting point is 00:01:09 as Rick and Morty fan in the chat said, I'm lubed up and ready to go. This show has become a bit of a tradition for us on Senior Bowl Week Friday. Because, you know, everybody does the winners and losers, and you and I just did that on Wednesday with the day one guys. Obviously more happened on practice two and three. Practices two and three. But this is a nice way to kind of bring in the audience that cares about the big picture.
Starting point is 00:01:35 You're going to get Senior Bowl talk. it kind of covers all ground and it's always good when you and I get to dust off the old two-round mock draft instead of the first round pump up those numbers those are rookie numbers correct yes I think that you're going to see a lot of people out there with their post senior bowl mock drafts but here on the NFL stock exchange show just always know we got you we're taking it to another level we're giving you two rounds because to be honest with you and this is like an easy way to sort of transition getting into the mock draft here like there are some senior bowl players we'll talk about probably in maybe the mid, but more like back end of the first round.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But the second round is where we really get to start to talk about a lot of these guys that had really good weeks down in Mobile, the guys that really raised their stock, the true risers this week. And so that's why I like to extend it a little bit and get into that second round, just like you do around this time of year. So a couple of things. First of all, this is a really long episode. Like it's going to be a two hour episode. It always is. So we see the super chats for you guys already. We know that we normally lead those to the end of the show because of how long the episode is.
Starting point is 00:02:43 When we suit super chats that are sort of topical throughout the show, we'll try to hit them. But we're not going to read super chats at the end of the show. It's not because we don't love you guys and we're scared to compete and read the super chats. We'll save them. And then we'll probably end up recording answering those at a different time, which we'll put into a Friday episode that'll probably be coming next week. And then two, Connor, I just wanted to make sure everybody knew before we start this exercise. this is more of a what we think will happen kind of a mock draft.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Like this is the time of year where we turn the page a little bit. You get to talk to some people that are very close to these teams. And you're seeing a little bit more of like, okay, these are going to be the scheme preferences. These are going to be the position preferences, all of that stuff. So there's going to be a little bit of certainly what we think about these players. But we're approaching it a little bit more from a predictive mindset getting to this point of the year in the draft process. It's a good time of the year to kind of sit back and look at, okay, which players are going to go earlier than people are realizing? And then there's also going to be some players that, hey, we haven't talked about this guy falling into the 20s or even into the top of round two before, but this is a scenario where it can happen.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's why besides the fact that it pays the bills, that's one of the reasons that we do a lot of these. Because by the time you get to the draft, you've hopefully seen 80% of the crazy scenarios that it can happen on draft. It's why we bring in guest mock drafters because they have different mindsets than the chamber that you and I have been in for a really, really long time. And this is kind of in a way the beginning of it all. Yes, it absolutely is. And again, before we kick this off, I just want to say thank you to everybody that came up to myself and Tyler in Mobile to come up and tell us that they were big fans of the show. It was so cool getting to meet so many of you. that event specifically where a lot of people who might be just star now there were a lot of you who were
Starting point is 00:04:39 like oh man like i just started a podcast or i just started covering the draft you guys were a big inspiration it's cool and connor like i said on wednesday you were well represented because any time that happened the chef was there with a cooler that he had strapped to his body saying hey you know what thank you for being a fan Connor wanted you to have this and he was handed out uncrustables to people that were telling us they were they were addicts of the show so shout to everybody that we had the chance to meet. We always love talking with you guys and meeting you guys. So that's a really cool part of that event for us as well. It's good to see him basically become a legend. Not an urban myth because he is real. But I saw one like Sasquatch-esque pick
Starting point is 00:05:18 of him on the field in his jersey, but you couldn't see his face. So you weren't a hundred percent sure who was him, but he had the jersey on. And it says the chef. So I'm just really glad we could lean into this. And he's the man behind the glass on our show. Yeah. It's all perfect. Mr. Gunney said news from the Discord, the NFL is he discord. The chef is 6'5, 255 pounds, absolutely yoked. And yeah, for the people that saw him on the sidelines, that's absolutely true. And then Dee Sauder said, is Trev shorter in person?
Starting point is 00:05:49 Okay, all right, okay. The height accusations against you. It's unbelievable. They've gone too far. I'm not afraid to say it. I'm not afraid to say. I've told people I'll never leave this chair on the show. Because if I'm not twice the size of my helmet shelf behind me,
Starting point is 00:06:02 people are going to be calling me Diego Pavia Jr. Yeah. Or probably worse. Yeah. Yeah. Pine-sized Pavia even. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Like a miniature Pavia. Can't be doing that. No, I won't have it. Let's jump into it. Let's get right in the mock draft here because we know that this is going to be a long show and we got a lot of analysis to give you guys here. Obviously, the beautiful PFF mock draft simulator. This never looks better.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Which, by the way, guys, I have taken the time over the last couple of days to add a lot of the names that were at the Senior Bowl, that were playing well, that were standing out in practice, that were not in there. Quintavius Hutchins, the defensive end from Boston College. I added him, Cyrus Allen, the wide receiver from Cincinnati. Tyron Montgomery, the John Carroll University wide receiver. He is now in the MDS as well.
Starting point is 00:06:51 So it is updated. I think the order is updated as well. A lot of the names that were already in there that I feel like are stock up players overall. We're moving up and down. So that MDS is updated. You guys can run as many more. mock drafts you want when you have that PFF plus subscription. Tyler's already got it loaded up.
Starting point is 00:07:07 He's got two rounds selected here. So let's enter the draft. And Conor, I, you know, it's tradition for me to give you the choice. Are you okay with that, though? Do you ever get sick of it where you're like, I want to pick? Well, it's funny that you say that. Because I am going to pick number one overall here. Great.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Because I want you to pick number two. I do want to pick number two. The draft starts at two. This one's easy. This is Fernando Mendoza going number one overall, the Las Vegas Raiders. There's barely going to be any talk about it outside of when we get into,
Starting point is 00:07:45 okay, like the hype machine and all the highlights for him once we get to that week of the draft because it's just a no-brainer. Heisman trophy winner, somebody who I have talked about, we talked about this on The Quarterback Show, I think he's very worthy of the number one overall
Starting point is 00:08:02 pick in this class. I don't think it really should be a debate. I'm excited about him as an NFL quarterback. I think he's got a ton of starting NFL caliber ability. So this is a no brainer with him at number one, but that puts you on the clock. And I think this is the first mock draft that we have done since Dante Moore officially went back to Oregon. So the floor is no pressure. It was a lot of pressure. It felt a lot easier when Moore was in this draft, especially in a predictive mock draft. So what I'm going to say right off the top is I think if there was a betting board for the Jets picking number two today and it is wildly early, I think the favorite would be R.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Velvries. I think you're going to see that in a lot of places. I think that you and I have discussed, it seems like there are teams projecting Reese to have a similar transition that Jalen Walker had, where Reese played a lot of offball linebacker for Ohio State, but there's a world where. And I've been watching a linebacker tape a lot recently because that's a show that we have planned at some point we want to do. He's got really powerful hands to play as a stand-up edge player, like to set an edge to take on tackles and pullers. So maybe that's the plan for him.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And that's a guy that's worthy of being the number two selection. You hope he evolves as a pass rusher. I am going to take David Bailey here. And yes, it is partially predictive. You just pulled the meat. Hold on. I did. You just pulled the meat.
Starting point is 00:09:31 You just pulled the meat. I did the whole thing and I take someone totally different. Totally different. It's the best move in the history of sports entertainment. I was floored. I was literally about to ask you a follow up about Arvel Reese and I was already ready for it. That's incredible. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And the point being, besides how much I love David Bailey and how an impactful of a player and a prospect he is in this draft, is that I think he is absolutely in play at number two. him, Ruben Bain, Arvel Reese, some might even say Caleb Downs, but Bailey is excellent at getting off the ball and rushing the passer, creating chaos. I do think the steps he took as a run defender, notably down the stretch of the season, are really, really going to help teams be comfortable with him as a top five pick. He's tough. He can be rugged. He's got a lot of counters to work the inside. You see the past rush win rate in 2000. It was also great at a different program in Stanford in 2024. So he's done it at two places already. I think David Bailey is a stud.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I think it's easy. Not easy because this is never easy to do. But there's a world where you project him as a double-digit sack guy down the road. And I think the Jets have to get a game wrecking presence at number two overall as there's no quarterback to take. So David Bailey at number two. Okay. David Bailey at number two. I know this is your guy.
Starting point is 00:10:53 When we went to the edge rush your episode, you expounded even further upon kind of what you just said there. People in the comments are saying Connor, Trevor Sycambe, Rogers, because of the, tell the streets. So I do see some people in the chat. Do you think Bailey at 2 is crazy? Because I'm getting this. From the limited combos I've already had about two and just watching him, in this draft,
Starting point is 00:11:18 I don't think it's crazy at all. I think he's not the favorite to go number two. I don't think it's crazy. I would very, I would pretty clearly take Rubin Bain over him. But we went through the edge rush episode where we kind of talked, I kind of walked through my concerns with Bailey a little bit more and sort of focusing a little bit more on where his game is deficient.
Starting point is 00:11:42 But sort of what you're talking about, like if you want a player in this class who could potentially be like a 15 sack guy for you, I mean, David Bailey has the Trump card of all Trump cards. Like he has that first step explosiveness that is very rare. You don't even have to say the words in this class. Like, I recognize that. David Bailey is going to have one of the best first steps in the NFL the second that he gets drafted. So having that sort of ability is, it's alluring.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And I think that a lot of teams are going to be in on it. Again, I would be taking Ruben Bain here at number two, if we were going with more of an edge rusher and we weren't, you know, thinking about like Arvel Reese or something like that. But from a pure pass rush perspective and how much of a disruptor he could be and how he'd get in the backfield, I do think that there are going to be teams that have David Bailey over Ruben Bain. So yes, in that sense, I don't think you're crazy since we're doing a little bit more of a predictive mock draft here at number two. All right, which puts you back on the board for Arizona at three, which is a super interesting spot. This is a really tough spot for Arizona.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I would love for them to take an offensive lineman. And I'm kind of going to sort of just walk through my thoughts here. and so I might pull a me on me when we get down to it. But if I'm going to take any offensive linemen, I'm actually probably going to take Francis Maui Noah. I don't want to spoil the offensive tackle episode that we're going to do at some point too much. But I worry a little bit about Spencer Fano's ability to anchor consistently at the next level.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And he's right around 300, 305 pounds right now. maybe you could pack a little bit more weight on him. But I don't think that's a guarantee because you're starting to see him, you know, carry some weight around the midsection. No fat shaming or anything here. It's just when you talk about, you know, guys putting on some extra weight. If they're already putting weight around the midsection, it's kind of harder to envision like, okay, well, if we put more weight on him,
Starting point is 00:13:43 he's going to be able to, you know, put it more in his legs or in his butt or is, you know, or his upper back, like whatever it is, the parts of your body that you're really conjuring strength from. So I think just from that perspective, I think Maui Noah is more solid. I think that he is somebody who I don't think he's Tristan Werf's. I don't think he's Penny Sewell, but I do think he's a two contract type of a starter for you. And in the offensive line, that's incredibly valuable. So that is where my mind goes first, but I don't have Francis Maui Noah next on my board.
Starting point is 00:14:16 You know, he's not the next guy that we're thinking about here. I think I might just go R. Bel-R. Bel-R. And just go with what's deemed as one of the best players in the entire draft. Because I like Bain more, but I think they're better along the defensive line. And I feel as though linebacker specifically, let me make sure I'm remembering this correctly. I think you're on the right path with the bigger ends they've taken over the years and what they have. Because they do, I mean, they have Walter Nolan. Obviously, they're a little bit older in the trenches next to him with Campbell and Dalvin Tomlinson.
Starting point is 00:14:53 But they have Darius Robinson as well. they have Josh I've got B.J. O'Jolari. They drafted Jordan Birch as well. And then linebacker, it's Mack Wilson and it's Akeem Davis Gather. They have Cody Simon as well, but I think I'm just going to take Arville Reese.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I view Arville Reese as as like an Edger and Cooper type of a linebacker where he is just a heat-seeking missile and somebody who is just a seek-and-destroy type of a player. That overall athleticism, I think, is going to be coveted. So I'm actually going to take Reese for the Cardinals here to just be hopefully an elite second level defender for them. You know what's wild here and you were the first person that was really, really on this back in September or October when you took Sunny Stiles to the Rams at 10?
Starting point is 00:15:41 There's a world where Sunny Stiles goes third overall because of everything you just said. I'm not saying it's likely. It's not likely. But all the reasons you just said, Sunny Stiles going way earlier than anything. Anybody could even 10 feels like it's now on the table. But I think you went down the right path. I would have gone with Reese as well for Arizona and you get the versatility, which brings me to Robert Salas Tennessee Titans.
Starting point is 00:16:10 You know them well. You know them very well. Yeah. Know this defense well. Know their tendencies well. Now different GM, of course. This is this is a tricky one, right? Because they got to get Cam Ward help and they need to be really.
Starting point is 00:16:25 careful. Now they have a ton of cap space that they're going to be able to spend to get him some help. They're also going to be able to add to the defense. They've invested a lot in this offensive line over the years. That's how Dan Moore became one of the richest Dan Moore's on the planet. Yeah. The question here is, Trevor, like, do they just put arm length aside and say, Rubin Bain wreaks havoc up front? He can play in Salas attacking fronts. Now remember, I believe it was as soon as Sala got there. The Jets backed up the Brinks truck for Carl Lawson. Carl Lawson at his peak of his powers,
Starting point is 00:17:05 rushes like Rubin Bain does. That was the plan for Sala when he got to New York. It was like spent all the money on Carl Lawson. I need pass rushers. I need guys that convert speed to power. It can be tough against the run. It's not history repeating itself because they're not the same exact player,
Starting point is 00:17:21 but there are similarities there where, hey, if my defense is going to go, and I'm going to be calling the plays, unlike my last time as head coach, I need some absolute horses up front. I'm going to take a guy that put out dominant tape for a team that made to the national title game. Let's get Ruben Bain. I'm going to spend money on offense. We have other picks to spend on offense, but I've got to get one of the best game records in this draft at four. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I think that I would be going with Rubin Bain here as well for the reasons that you mentioned. Plus, he's a one-on-one winner, which Robert Sala needs. in the front that he wants to put out there. So I think that he makes sense for the Titans in that regard. I've talked about this before. I think the number one overall goal for the Titans this off season is to figure out what their offensive line is. Like determine what J.C. Latham is at this point?
Starting point is 00:18:09 Is it your tackle? Is it your guard? And go throughout free agency in the draft, making sure our offensive line is as good as it can be. But are you taking a tackle here at four, especially when Ruman Bain Jr. is looking at you? I don't think that you are. I think that you're just taking the talent at that point, especially for a defensive-minded head coach.
Starting point is 00:18:27 So I think they've got to address offensive line and figure that out. But I would be picking Ruben Bain here as well. Somebody in the chat said, is this a sneaky Jeremiah love spot? I do think that they need linebacker, but again, I think they're going trenches at four. I really just think it's going to be trenches one way or the other of four. Yeah, I think so too. They can continue to roll with what they have a running back. They can get one later.
Starting point is 00:18:50 There's a lot in free agency. No, I think Tennessee, you could start the conversation about wide receiver here, of course. But no, for me, get Bain and elevate Salas defense, which is his calling card. All right, so if you went Ruben Bain there at five, or at four, now I got the New York Giants up in number five. There's a lot you can do with this pick. There's a lot that we can do with this pick. I think we'll know a lot more about what the offensive line need might be in a couple of weeks once we get kind of through free. agency and seeing how they operate with their offensive line any changes that they might make
Starting point is 00:19:29 there obviously the wide receiver spot with wandael robinson being a free agent um new coaching staff so who knows if they're going to prioritize a player like that to a second contract even though they weren't the coaching staff that drafted him and developed him Caleb downs i think is very interesting here at five because you just think of the player that kyle hamilton was with the ravens under Harbaugh and him knowing how valuable, a versatile player like that is. I'm not saying that Caleb Downs is, you know, exactly like Kyle Hamilton,
Starting point is 00:20:04 because I think they're built a little bit different, but they are players who could really change things for you on the back end. And I am more of a believer of you can get wide receiver help later. I don't know if you could get a player who I feel like Antoine Winfield Jr. is a really good comp for Caleb Downs and just how versatility is, the body type, the overall athleticism, all the things that he could do. Downs's range is just so wide, though. Like, I talked to a lot of people in, I talked to a lot of people in Mobile this week who
Starting point is 00:20:38 think he's going later than was previously projected of him, like being a, for sure, like top five, top eight overall pick. I talk to a lot of people who feel as though he's going later than that, or at least certainly could go later than that. Well, the reason being that I've heard going back to the end of the season is that he won't test like an elite testing safety. He's not going to be poor or anything.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But the cards are already, like the deck is already stacked against you as a safety to go in the top five. But then if you're not a 90th percentile or higher tester, is that even harder of a sell? So that's probably why. He's going to be a top five player
Starting point is 00:21:22 for me in this draft, though. I think so too. But you're right. Like if he ends up running in the four, five's in the 40-yard dash. And he is, you know, if he tests, if he tastes like a good athlete and not a great athlete, then you're just going to hear a lot of like, well, okay, well, he's not the athlete that Kyle Hamilton was. He's not, he's not a Derwin James type of a player. I was talking a little bit with a friend of the show, Lance Zerline, about that as well when we were on the
Starting point is 00:21:46 field just chatting about some players and he was talking about Caleb Downs a little bit. And he wondered, you know, if he doesn't test incredibly well, is the NFL really going to view him as a safety even like maybe those other guys would have been? And those guys, he's fell to the middle of the first round like we were talking before. But ultimately this does. Gotta say, on the field with Lance Airline is the nicest subtle flex we've had in a while on this show. It's like, that's a good one. Yeah. Lance is the man.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Lance is, man, Lance has been covering the draft for so, so long. And being in real life friends with Lance Airline is really cool because I read his work for years. And he's such a downy, to earth, dude. He is. And he's the man. And it's, it's just always very cool to pick his brain to get the chat with him. So, yeah, a little bit of flex, but, you know, I also wanted to give the good people some information there. Connor, I do think that, I think I am going to continue to land a wide receiver for them, though. I just think that Jordan Tyson is so damn talented. I just think that he is so damn talented. And you get to the point where you have a fully healthy
Starting point is 00:22:53 Malik neighbors, you have a fully healthy, hopefully Jordan Tyson, you've got Camp Gadaboo, you have have Jackson Dart. Well, maybe. Cooking. Let's go Jordan Tyson here. I'm just, I'm going to stick with Jordan Tyson. I kind of, again, thought about Caleb Downs a little bit there, maybe offensive line if the free agency portion of the off season goes that way for them.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But I am, I am going to stick with Jordan Tyson here at five. The Browns at six, new head coach Todd Monkin to the surprise of some. I love Todd Monkin's energy. I was watching the videos of him. with Chidor and he's just, he's been a favorite of ours on this show as much as it seems like the NFL world is like, they hired who and what?
Starting point is 00:23:36 I'm rooting for Todd Munkin. Me too. Getting his chance in the Edison NFL head coach this late in his coaching life. So the Browns here, what's a theme you and I have talked about with the Browns for how long, Trevor? No movie cost. Well, that's always nice,
Starting point is 00:23:49 especially when you play in the state of Ohio. They got to start building this offensive line again. Yeah. I guess the question is, do you go with the chalk pick and just and we've done this already you just take carnell tate here and get a number one wide receiver and i i have no problem running back the chalk the question i'll pose to you is is there a world where hey we have so many spots to build on this offensive line do we start to talk about somebody like mowingoa who is probably regarded
Starting point is 00:24:20 as the top o line talent currently in this draft i think this is yeah i think malign oa is certainly in the conversation here. You're just, you're going to have teams that, you know, whether it's the flashiest offensive line class or not, like, I think, I think Maui Noah is just going to be rock solid in the league. I think that he's going to be a, a really good offensive tackle. I don't know if it'll be a great offensive tackle, but I just don't know if he's kind of like physically built that way, but I think he'll be really good for you. And again, I think he's a second, I think he's a two contract starting offensive tackle for you. And you can't just say that lightly. You can't be like, ah, man, he's just going to be.
Starting point is 00:24:57 two contract starting offensive tackle for you. I mean, you just can't, you can't say it with that inflection and that, that purpose there. I think that it's got to have a lot more conviction to it. So, yes, I would think about Maui Noah here for the Browns at six. That's where I'm going to go. I'm sure we'll have many conversations going forward about Carnell Tate here again. I've done that before. I don't mind that at all for the Browns.
Starting point is 00:25:17 But I also like Maui Noah enough to take him here and get this offensive line in the right place for Cleveland. Okay. So for Washington, I would love to get them a pass rusher, but I think the next one would be Cassius Howell. Yes. Out of like the finesse rushers and then Falk as the power edges. Yeah, I wouldn't be taking Falk here.
Starting point is 00:25:47 No, he doesn't make sense for them. And so then I think about, okay, what about defensive back? There's a world where I think Mansour Delane's to pick here. It kind of depends on what they really believe of Trey Amos. Do they think that Trey Amos can be an outside CB1 for them? Or do they think more of, hey, we've got a really good CB2, and then you could play Sam Ristill as a more constant presence as a nickel? I don't know if they're going to be interested in Caleb Downs
Starting point is 00:26:17 as much as maybe we think just from a safety perspective, because remember the guys that Dan Quinn is kind of gone after and used at that versatile safety spot. Who is the, who is, what was the safety in Dallas? Curse. Geron Curse. Safety in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Is it the right name? I'm saying the right name. I think you're going down the right path. When Quinn was DC. When he was their DC there. I feel like they still had Malik Hooker, but that's not who you're thinking of. No, that's not who I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah, Geron Curse. You're right. Yes. So he's like the bigger, longer safety type of a player who could play in the box. He could play safety for, you. And then look at the guys that they drafted, I think it was in his first draft when he was the head coach there. It was Tyler Owens, that crazy alien build safety who tested super well from
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oklahoma State. And it was Dominic Hampton as well, who was sort of the same build at that safety spot. Like they've been trying to get that sort of guy. They've gone for the Kyle Hamilton type of an archetype, but also with the Kyle Hamilton type of a build. So maybe, maybe Caleb Downs is just good enough to where you go, okay, no, no, no, it doesn't. matter if he's not built like those guys. We want that type of safety. Perhaps that's the case. But they also need a linebacker.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And that's also where my mind goes. So the three players I have on the board for them here that I think that they will consider if it falls this way. Caleb Downs, like I mentioned, but maybe, maybe not. Sonny Stiles, who I think is an excellent guy to get in there next to Frankie Louvo. I don't think Bobby Wagner's officially
Starting point is 00:27:53 retired, but man, Bobby Wagner's obviously getting up there in age. or a mansword Delane. I think I go Sunny Stiles. That's where I'm glad you did it. I think I'm going Sunny Stiles. They're old at linebacker right now. In this scheme, it's so important to be able to have range.
Starting point is 00:28:16 The former safety in Stiles, he's got the range. Yeah. This is like, it's really a good fit across the board. I think they're going to love him. Let's go Sonny Stiles. Sonny Stiles, the linebacker from Ohio State. I think you do a lot of things for you. I think you watch his tape this year.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's a lot more of triggering down. It's a lot more of an attacking style, but I think his former safety background shows you those movement skills that he has as well, having him drop back a little bit more into coverage. I think that that's something that's well within his wheelhouse to do more of than he did at Ohio State, who was really just having him, again, just constantly attacking downhill. But he was one of the best in all of college football at exactly that. And I think that how rock solid he was in the middle is what gave them the freedom to use Arvel Reese the way that they did throughout the season as well. So I don't think that should be an underrated point either. You're up with the Saints now at number eight. All right, the Saints at eight.
Starting point is 00:29:04 They could add more talent up front on the defensive side of the ball. They can get Tyler Shuck another weapon across from Chris Ilaveh. Ooh, yeah. Yeah. Which is the road. I'm going to go down here. I'm going to take Carnell Tate in this spot. Somebody in the chat just said the new Michael Thomas for them.
Starting point is 00:29:27 There you go. Marquis Colston. Let's just keep turning back to 2.0, as Carlson Davis would say. Sorry, Saints fans. I'm sorry. That was the Buccaneering me that was coming out a little bit. This is now you have someone in a lobby that gets vertical and is super precise. You have someone in Carnal Tate who could be physical,
Starting point is 00:29:47 but also his route running took a really, really big step forward this year. And now you have Tyler Shuck who looked really, really good when he got his chance this year with more than viable number one and number two wide receiver. a pass catching tight end, Joanne Johnson. Let's see if we could add somebody to that running back room, whether it's in free agency or later on in the draft. And of course, Jeremiah Love was there. But I just think that it's a little,
Starting point is 00:30:13 it's hard to say because Love will be one of the best players in the draft for me. It was just a little rich for the Saints in this spot. I think there's other avenues for them to solve running back and still get a high-end number two receiver instead. Everybody in the chat now, of course, because Jeremiah Love is still available for the Chiefs is begging me not to pick him for the Chiefs, which I do think is funny that everyone is screaming that
Starting point is 00:30:37 and then Peter in the chat saying, take love to the Chiefs. Hey, here's an idea for you, squirt. Have you guys ever thought about this? I'm not Jeremiah Love. The squirrel with the Cantercourse Light and Zintin, it just kills me every time Peter's... Yeah, he comes up.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Because I think, he, it's like an original photo from Peter. I don't think he found that on the internet. Hey, he's just big chilling. You know, big chill, have a good time. Squirrel. Yeah, yeah. I am not going to take Jeremiah Love for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:31:09 The world is saved. I am going to switch it up. And I don't know if this is going to be a shocking pick or not. I am going to take Caleb Banks, the defensive lineman from Florida. Yes, that's absolutely shocked. That number of me. Yes, it did. He.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Caleb Banks On day I should have I should have waited I'm going to take Caleb And then the chef like goes over to scroll over Caleb Downs And I'm like wait
Starting point is 00:31:41 But not that one So I'm taking Caleb Banks Because one I think that he's built the way A Spaggs defensive linemen is built I mean he is just a massive human being Standing next to him When he was on the field at the senior bowl
Starting point is 00:31:57 his measurables are absolutely verified and real and you feel that when you're standing next to him it was a little bit of a slow burn for him in that first practice on Tuesday but Connor on Wednesday and Thursday I thought he was incredible now I think it was between him and Lee Hunter for the best defensive tackle there but the reps that Caleb Banks had that were like the best Caleb Banks reps I mean you put that next to Chris Jones and you got Omar Norman lot also kind of coming in and rotating with those three guys, you have got some serious disruption from the defensive tackle spots. And we've seen what Caleb Banks can be as a run defender, really when he's fully healthy. I know he wasn't as consistent. But again, it's these flashes with
Starting point is 00:32:43 Caleb Banks that make you think if you get him in the right defensive system with the right defensive coaches, you have got an absolute gem and a game record type of a defensive tackle. So it felt like Chris Jones was kind of doing it all himself on the interior defensive line this past season. You put Caleb Banks and again, Omar Norman Lot in the rotation next to him, and I think you feel pretty great about your interior defensive line. So first senior bowl guy off the board. I'm going off the board here
Starting point is 00:33:07 at number nine. Yeah, it's funny. This is where we kind of saw him over summer. And he didn't really play this year. And you're like, oh, man, I don't know if Caleb Banks is a top, you know, if he's either in a first rounder anymore. So it was good to see him healthy. And he got, it felt like he got better on tape every day. The senior ball, the first day, he was
Starting point is 00:33:23 like, he got Stonewalled a couple of times. Second day, I was like, oh, Caleb Banks is getting his legs back under him for sure. This made it really easy for me with the Bengals at 10. I'm going to take Caleb Downs. I think they need help everywhere in the secondary, but this is a guy that can help you everywhere in the secondary. They've asked them to do everything at Ohio State. He is one of the smartest defensive backs I've ever watched tape of. He has a six cents to know what play is coming next. He crashes downhill like a maniac. He's physical. He's tough. He's got instincts in range. This is the Bengals, like one man is not going to fix this defense that is extremely problematic,
Starting point is 00:33:55 but this is about as good as you could do on that and starting that. I think he can do a lot of different things for you. He, I think the Bengals played better in the secondary this past season, but there's still not a Caleb Downs type of a player in their secondary. So I could absolutely see him being an option for them there at number 10. Dolphins at 11. I think I know what you're going to do here. I don't think you know me at all.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I know exactly. You're just deciding between the two corners. No, I was. Oh. And I'm not just saying that. Although the corners are in play. And if I end up picking one of the corners, it's not because you said that. I just want to be very clear. It's not because you said that. Mind control. I do think about Mackay Lemon as well, who I've mocked to the dolphins before. And I do like the potential of this pick. I think that he is a really good one-two combination with Jalen Waddle and his speed. I think both of those guys, Waddle and Mackay Lemon, yes, they are smaller wide receivers, but both of them can play in. inside and out, they could play the slot, and they could play outside at any time. What do you like that? Here comes the plot twist. Here comes the plot list.
Starting point is 00:35:05 You're talking about the ghost of Mike McDaniel making this pick, and then you'd be like, swerve, but I'm taking Cash as hell. Obviously they need corner. No, I'm not going to take edge rusher for them. I think they were better on the defensive line as the season went on. Corner, I don't know how much I can say that about. Let's see. Sometimes I forget how bleak it was.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Let's see. Let's remind myself of the depth chart here for the dolphins. Yeah, we get Storm Duck. Cater Cahoohoo. Jason Marshall Jr. at Gator Great. Rassul Douglas. Juju Brents. Jack Jones.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It's not a CB1 there. I don't think there's a CB2 in that room. All right, Jeremiah McCoy. Nobody's had better cornerback tape in 2025 than what Germain McCoy was in 2024 It's a great take
Starting point is 00:36:14 Because you're absolutely right Jermon McCoy it is Now I'm not doing that just because you said that I'm not I'm not doing that just because you said it That was an independent idea by me Just so everybody's clear You thought it before I said you were thinking it That's the point.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah you're right. Yeah That is absolutely the point Yeah yeah yeah Cowboys at 12. Let's say they bring back George Pickens because why wouldn't you? Yeah, I think they're big, I think they bring George Pickens. Feel pretty good about that.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I feel like Cowboys fans hate this because it's all they see, but this is a predictive mock. I'm actually going to pull a curveball. I was going to say, I was going to say I'm going to do the Keldrick Falk pick, but I'm not. I'm going to take Mansour or Delane. Yeah, I don't. I just don't know if they're going to be in on folk. I mean, either way, if Delane makes it here, which is starting to feel like a mini long shot.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I know, I know. But this is why we did like this draft? He is just, did anyone besides Mendoza make themselves more money this year? Well, I guess you could argue Reese. Reese wasn't really on the radar the way he was before the year. But Delane was a transfer where it was like, man, Delane had a bad year after a good year. What happened?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Right. And this year he was unbelievable. unbelievable at LSU. So yeah, Delaine helped the Cowboys corner, kind of remake the Cowboys Corner Room. Yeah, which they definitely need. And I know they just drafted, Savone Rebel, if that is your real name,
Starting point is 00:37:48 last year. But, you know, he's coming back from the ACL tear and he looked shaky this year. Now, it's to be expected. Like, that can be totally fine. Right. With him coming off of a major knee injury. But do you go into this year going,
Starting point is 00:38:01 nah, no, no, no, he'll be good, no matter what. Yeah, I mean, he'll be totally fine. I got no reservations. about it. So instead you draft a player where worst case scenario you still have two starting cornerbacks in Duran Bland and Mansourg Lane.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Best case scenario, you have a sick trio of cornerbacks to work with if Simone Rebel is healthy and looking more like the pre-injury version of himself. Rams at 13. Well, this kind of worked out for you in multiple ways. I won't
Starting point is 00:38:34 cut you off. Sorry. Well, how did this work out for me? You know, you know what I'm going to pick. Go ahead. I'm a bad teammate on this. I get too excited. I start to interject. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I'm trying to improve self-control. This is your pick, not mine. I'm being a really bad teammate. I, I, I don't know what less need is going to do. We said at the top that this is a predictive mock draft. I don't know. what less needs going to do because, you know, he was in a situation for all those years where he never had any draft picks and now he's in a situation where he's got a surplus of first round draft
Starting point is 00:39:16 picks. I continue to come back to this thought, though. If you believe in one of the other quarterbacks in this class, whether it be Ty Simpson or Trinidad Chambley, what is a better use of the gift that has become a top 15 pick from you from a trade down scenario the year before than to take a chance on the position that could have the biggest potential home run for you that you're going to need to fill maybe even as soon as this off season. I don't know what Matthew Stafford's future is going to be. It sure looks like he's got some more in the tank. I'm going to pick Ty Simpson here.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I'm going to take Ty Simpson at number 13. Again, I don't know what less need is going to do. But to me, this is the perfect spot for Ty Simpson because I get it. It's McVeigh. It'd be the perfect spot for any quarterback. Sure, I understand. But he could potentially get to sit behind Matthew Stafford, which is ideal. And the more I talk to people in Mobile, the more I talk to people at the Senior Bowl, the more that it just feels like Simpson doesn't declare if he's not going to be a first round pick. Like I think he got some pretty good intel from the league that they're like, hey man, why don't you get in this class?
Starting point is 00:40:34 like why don't you make sure that you're in this class? And I just think there's just too many starving teams that need quarterbacks. You know, Pittsburgh's picking, obviously, in the first round, and they're probably going to have a big quarterback need. It doesn't feel like Rogers is going to be back for them. And I just think that there's too many quarterbacks. There's too many quarterback needy teams to think that he's not going to go in the first round. He also does too many of the, I'll say, like, quarterbacking things.
Starting point is 00:40:58 I don't know if that's a natitism or not. I feel like he said that before, but it's like changing protection. at the line of scrimmage, being able to get to backside reeds on full field concepts. Like all of the things that you're attacking over the middle of the field. He had the best numbers of any quarterback in this class attacking the intermediate middle of the field. Those are NFL type of things. Do you struggle under pressure? Yeah, but you can get better in that area. There's not a lot of guys who come from college to the NFL that have even shown with Ty Simpson only showed as a first year starter. So again, just a little bit of a Ty
Starting point is 00:41:30 Simpson rant. I think he's going in the first round. And for the Rams, I think that this is the ultimate bonus pick to take a chance on a quarterback who could be a starter for you after Matthew Stafford is done. So since you're at 13 of the Rams. If you hit what a like play this ends up being. Yes. That's and for everybody in the chat saying that like they're surprised to see Simpson go this early. I think the Rams at 13, the Jets at 16 and the Steelers at 21 are all going to be in the stare down for him. So this is not too early.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Like if you like the guy, you are taking the guy. So Simpson, I know he had a tough stretch the second half of the year, but I still think in a quarterback class that has almost nothing, I think he's going to go in the first round as well. I do too. The Ravens at 14. Ravens 14. Man, I kind of think, I didn't expect to be in this situation.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I kind of want to take Spencer Fanon here at 14 and get this offensive line in the right place. There's also, it's unlikely, but the fact Jeremiah Love is here, like imagine that's the successor to Derek Henry. It's so ridiculous. I'm not going to do it. Yeah, I don't think they're going to do it. No, I don't think so either.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Of course, Mackay Lemon could potentially be in play here, but so much of this passing game, ball was around a small wide receiver already. Can say flowers. So I don't think it would be a lock that they would take him. Obviously, Caden McDonald is their type. They need pass rush help. Cash's Hal absolutely gets after the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:43:21 But I'm going to take Spencer Fanow because I think this offensive line had some notable problems last year. And it's pretty nice that he fell all the way to 14. I think that that makes a ton of sense for them. if he is on the board here at 14, which to be honest, man, like I kind of feel like he's going to be. It's definitely a world.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I mean, look, people got to fall. It's the draft, man. My love is sitting here right now. Mikey Lemon is sitting here right now. I know.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah, the bucks aren't going to take care of my life. Yeah, we fixed the draft for 15 and 16. So what? No, just kidding. Just kidding. Um,
Starting point is 00:43:56 no, I already drafted Sonny Styles. I took them off the board, so I didn't, I didn't really, I didn't really help myself here. Okay, the buck's at 15.
Starting point is 00:44:05 they're not going to take Jeremiah Love they're not going to take Mikey Lemon I'm not going to take Peter Woods Cassius Howl makes a ton of sense for them just because he's just such a frenetic pass rusher he's about out of hell the second that the ball gets snapped and I've even
Starting point is 00:44:22 like when we talked about edge rushers like I even think that there's still some technique things that he could clean up where he'd get even faster he could get in the backfield even faster he's got short arms I think that he's going to have near outlier shorter arms he's not the best run defender but man you see just the overall pass-risk grade he's had an elite pass-rush grade over the last
Starting point is 00:44:42 three seasons and i don't think that you could just like brush that off especially for a team in Tampa bay that has been starving for a pass-rushar assan reddick didn't really work out for them joe try and show yank it didn't work out for them chris braswell didn't work out for them they need somebody who can get after the quarterback i think it howells probably that next guy that makes the most sense for him so they need linebacker but thankfully for them Connor, the more linebackers I watch in this class, the more linebackers I think can play at the NFL level. I think C.J. Allen's great.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I think Anthony Hill Jr. is great. Deonté Lawson, Jacob Rodriguez. I mean, there were linebackers at the Senior Bowl. I mean, Bryce Becher, Owen Heineke. Like, there were so many dudes who Kyle Lewis was, Kyle Lewis maybe had the best one-on-one running back versus linebacker coverage tape of any all-star event that I've ever watched. Like, that's how athletic this dude is.
Starting point is 00:45:42 So it's a really, really deep linebacker class. So I don't think Tampa has to force it. I think they need pass-ursures, though. Let's go Cassius Hall here. It's 15. Yeah, that's, it makes a ton of sense. Somebody's got to affect the quarterback for this team, man. And that's the name of the game for Howell.
Starting point is 00:45:56 So the Jets at 16, this just goes to show you, like, there's going to be somebody that kind of loses this musical chairs game. And in this draft, it was Jeremiah Love. Some people in the chat are probably shocked Mackay Lemon is here. One of the three receivers making it here is not surprising because you see how prevalent the high-end defenders are in this draft. And Simpson went at 13. The two top offensive linemen went, that's not a surprise. Caleb Banks might be a surprise to some people, but once again, this was the combo for him at summer.
Starting point is 00:46:29 So how much of a surprise is it really? So I think the Jets should tag Breece Hall, assuming they can work out an extension with ABT, which should take running back out of the combo here. And the Jets are just not good enough to take any running back. We just saw this last year what happened with the Raiders. I think that they have so much work to do on this roster. And for me, it's getting a number two-wide receiver in Mackay Lemon, who kind of fits what they need.
Starting point is 00:46:54 You have Adnigh-Mitchell, who could be a true X number three, bigger receiver. Garrett Wilson can play inside and outside. But now the slot is open if you want to just play Lemon as the slot, as a separator, manufactured touches. Obviously, quarterback's a massive unknown and problem for this team. There's no quarterback to draft anyway in this spot. So just load it up for the future. And now McCoy Lemon and Garrett Wilson are your wide receiver tandem
Starting point is 00:47:19 with Adinae Mitchell as the three. I have long been an advocate of Mackay Lemon being a New York Jet. I think it makes so much sense for them. I think it makes so much sense for, I mean, Aaron Glenn, I don't know how much longer Aaron Glenn's going to be a head coach of this team, and being completely honest. But even like outside of him, any coach would love to have a player that is the dog that McCoy Lemon is. And I think I see people in the chat being like, all right, well, how does McKay Lemon get to this point?
Starting point is 00:47:46 Like you were talking about before. I mean, you think about him for the Ravens, but you got an ability to really fix the trenches, which was a major issue for them. So you go ahead and do that. I mean, what else would have been? I've seen some people, I don't know if you saw that Jeremiah had Mikey Lemon to the Rams at 13, but like I, I, I don't know if they would consider wide receiver there at that spot. It's a great question that I had not seen before.
Starting point is 00:48:13 What they think of Devante going into next year and the fact that in Armac, like McCoy or Delane would make sense for the Rams. They were gone in our mock draft. Yeah, that's a good question. I talked about it potentially for Miami at number 11. So there's a lot of places that he could go. But I think the Jets at 16. If he gets to 16, I kind of have a hard time thinking that he's going to get any further than that.
Starting point is 00:48:37 The Detroit Lions. Is this where Awane conversation starts? Our first true guard off the board, although we've had Fanon. Oh, and Maui Noah would go off the board as flexible guys. Yeah, I mean, I think about Caden Proctor as well. I mean, I just watched him and did his full write-up. I don't think he's a tackle, but I think he's like an ass kicking guard for you. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:12 I really do. I think he can be a really, really impactful guard at the NFL level. And some people look at him and just they're like, oh, well, he's just, you know, a big brood at six foot seven, 360 pounds. But he's got good zone blocking grades as well, as you guys can see there on the screen. So I think he moves decently well. I just think that his feet are a little heavy for pass protection on an island the way that you would need him to be. So for the Lions, if they're interested at Guard, which I think that they certainly will be, man, I think that Caden Proctor's a really good pick for them.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Honestly, to me, it's coming down to Proctor and Mezzador, because I think Mesodore is actually the best edge rusher who's left. I think he makes a lot of sense for the Detroit Lions because they're a team that's winning. winning right now and you get a player who is ready to work right now in their winning window. And it would send him somewhere where he's at least the number two. Yes. Which he kind of ironically was this year. But him and Bain were just so good together. It's where he's going to get some matchups.
Starting point is 00:50:26 You could use him in different alignments. And that's a great spot for him. Yeah. Obviously, I think it, I can't remember who said this. But like a 25 year old player in the first round is insane. is what somebody said there. You have to kind of think about it like this. Because I agree.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Obviously, there's not a lot of 25-year-old players that go in the first round. And the reason why is because at the end of their first contract, especially if they're first rounders, if you pick up the fifth-year option for them, they're 30 years old by the time they're even thinking about signing their second contract in the NFL, which is obviously not ideal, given the short lifespan that the NFL has in general. But at Kim Messador, you've got to think about this.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Like, I think he is a ready-made player. I don't think there's this. You get to the NFL, there's this ramping up period. Okay, he'll be good, really good like year three. I think Ekeem Messador's good year one. His technique is that good. He's been taught that well by Jason Taylor, who's the position coach for the Miami Hurricanes.
Starting point is 00:51:21 So I'm thinking about him, but honestly, I'm going to go with Proctor. I'm going to go with Proctor here. I think that the Lions are going to make sure that that offensive line is not as big of an issue as it was this past season. So let's go with Caden Proctor, I think is mostly a guard for them,
Starting point is 00:51:34 but if they need him to kick out the tackle, they also kind of have that ability with Penny Sewell being a right tackle. And depending how long Taylor Decker is still, you know, with them, it sounded morbid. Yeah. On the team. Nothing happened to him. You could be, nothing happened to him.
Starting point is 00:51:51 He should get an holder. You could potentially. Didn't we say that about renter once? What? We had to verify. We were talking about renter once. I'm like, nothing happened to him. He's alive.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said RIP to him. And I was like, nothing happened to him. But, you know, I'm going to go kick him. Hayden Proctor here for the, yeah, the Lions. Mainly because the chef already clicked it, and I can't go back. He's not letting you pull the switcheroo anymore. This is the easiest pick I'll have to make in the mock draft.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Because Jeremiah Lovefield of the Vikings at 18, a player that is just like, if you're the Vikings, you dream of this scenario. There's probably a part of you that wants to go up and get him. That's how much of a perfect fit he is in this offense to help out the young quarterback. back and just really be the entire identity of the offense, at least when they're not throwing the ball to Justin Jefferson, which wasn't easy to do this year. So Jeremiah Love makes life easier for everybody in Minnesota's organization. This is the easiest pick I'll have to make today.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I agree. That's a, that is a slam dunk pick for them. It truly, truly elevates their offense and takes it to another level. Do I make Panthers fans, or I should say, just like NFLS-E addicts happy by, making Caden McPounder a pounder the pounder spot yeah do I change his name legally from Caden MacDonald the Cade Macpounder that's the the big question here I do like the idea of bulking up the interior defensive line getting a dominant presence to free up Derek Brown a little bit more I know that they some people are going to say well they need pass trash I still believe in
Starting point is 00:53:24 Nick Scorton and you know the type of designated pass rusher that Prince Louman me Ellen could be I think this is a C.J Allen spot as well I I think this is where C.J. Allen's range starts with the linebacker needs that a lot of these teams have. And then there's wide receiver. I don't know. I think Concepcion's probably the next guy that I think about here, even over Denzel Boston. But I don't think that I would be taking him over McDonald. Or even Peter Woods who's here.
Starting point is 00:54:02 You know, you think about Peter Woods as well. Right. I think I am going to take Peter Woods now that I'm thinking about it. There it is. Down year forum, but I mean the flashes are still. really, really good. We've talked about him as a potential top 10 overall pick. And I think that, okay, maybe he's not a guaranteed top 10 overall pick like we once thought. But you see what he was as a freshman and a sophomore. 87.6 overall grade is freshman season, 83.5. He's one of the
Starting point is 00:54:33 highest recruits in his recruiting class. And it's just because, you know, when the guy puts it all together, his best reps look so dominant. If you get those more to a consistent level, I mean, Carolina has had great defensive tackle duos throughout the history of that franchise. And I think being able to pair Derek Brown with another really good presence, I think that could just take their defensive line to a whole other level. And I think that makes Nick Scorton better again. Like I said, I think it makes Prince William better. So let's go with Peter Woods here to the Carolina Panthers in 19.
Starting point is 00:55:04 All right, the Cowboys again, not that long ago, we had a corner going to them. I believe Jermad McCoy went to them. Is that correct? Oh, Mansour Deland. McCoy went the pick before, so they got Mansour Delano. Elaine at 12 in a scenario where I was actually talking between Delane and Keldrick Falk. Well, you'll have it. Keltrick Falk is here at 20.
Starting point is 00:55:28 But it's actually time to have a little senior bowl combo here. Trevor, it felt like T.J. Parker reminded people of who he was in Mobile. You saw the long arm. You saw the ability to convert speed to power. He's obviously a stout run defender on the edge like Falk. I think Falk is a better edge run defender almost than most in this class. But Parker is a more accomplished pass rusher than Keldrick Falk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I think I'm going to go with T.J. Parker here. It feels like we got to the point where over somewhere we're like, this guy could be a top five pick. And then this year was not what you wanted to see, although it wasn't a disaster. No, no, no. And then you see him at the senior ball and you're like, everybody took a step back at Clemson. I thought he took the least amount of steps back. Like I thought Peter Woods, so Avion Terrell, Kate Klubnik. Like there was a lot of guys where I'm like, what happened at this program?
Starting point is 00:56:15 But Parker was still good. and I think getting him at 20s where it kind of all makes sense to fall. I don't think he's not a first rounder anymore. I think that's too far. But I don't think he's a top 10 pick. So Dallas gets a high floor player at 20 that I think has more pass rush juice
Starting point is 00:56:32 and reminded people of that in Mobile. No, Max Chadwick, when we were doing some of the recap shows, said he feels like Parker could very well be the first senior ball guy drafted. And I completely agree. Obviously, I took Banks higher. I took him at number nine to Kansas City. But Parker had as good of a week
Starting point is 00:56:47 as you would want him to have. I mean, he showcased that NFL level power. He's never going to be overwhelmed on the edge. He's going to be somebody who you feel good about playing all three downs. Is he going to be a prolific pass rusher? Okay, maybe not. But still, 15.5% passers win percentage this year. It's nothing to scoff at.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Like, that's a really good number. I think that's still, what, like 70th, 80th percentile, something like that when it comes to overall pass rush productivity and consistency from the edgebots. So I think that through the lens of, being like, whoa, Parker, you know, maybe he's his top five pick. Okay, maybe he's not that. But he's, he's an NFL player through and through. So I don't hate this one at all.
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Starting point is 00:57:50 So stay here for a while. Yeah. Appreciate you guys watching us live, especially to all the new people out there that are checking us out for the first time. We know that mock drafts have the ability to do that. So like Connor said, subscribe, hang out for a while. We got a lot of really great content for you guys throughout all of draft season. Steelers at 21. Yeah, you know, if they don't have a quarterback answer by this time, you know, we're thinking about Trinidad Chambliss, potentially here at number 21.
Starting point is 00:58:14 I'm not going to go that route. But I do think that it's something that's potentially on the table for them. And maybe, again, when we get more towards the draft, that could manifest a little bit more. If Ty Simpson was here, I would really think about that. But I took him at 13 for the Rams. Denzel Boston, I think, makes a ton of sense for this team. I think that some people might look at this situation and go like,
Starting point is 00:58:35 well, you know, wouldn't they rather have Casey Concepcion? Because he's so different than D.K. Mecc. And sure. But I think there's a big enough world to where Denzel Boston and D.K. Metcalf can thrive together. And I just do like Denzel Boston more as an overall receiver. So I think I am going to go with Boston here for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And any Steelers fans out there that want a deeper dive into their team
Starting point is 00:59:04 and sort of what we think about them and their draft options, you check out the fixture franchise that we did a couple of weeks ago when McTomlin stepped down. But I am going to take Denzel Boston here, the wide receiver from Washington, Big body dude got a little bit more smoothness and suddenness to his routes than you would expect. But I think you'd be a really good player for them. And very clearly, they just need more offensive weapons of the passing game going into next season. Chargers on the clock here at 22, a lot of good options for them on both sides of the trenches.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Caden McDonald would be a fit in their interior. But I'm going to go with Oliva Vanga, Yawane, the guard from Penn State, that he is big. he is really smooth and pass pro for his size they had a lot of problems across the offensive line the tackle part the tackles was due to injuries i think the mackay beckney signing was just a whit from them he reverted back to a lot of the bad problems he had with the jets um whether it was health whether it was play falling off you want a man he's a really really good guard prospect he can go even earlier than this but for the chargers great scenario let's let's build it mike macdainil's a great run game coordinator. It's going to be built on running the ball with Amari and Hampton and having a nasty offensive line. Credit to you for continuing to say his full name instead of just saying Vega-O-Wane like I do. I'm a coward about it. And you know, I stumbled. You give him his flowers, though. You know, you go for it. And I know that he really appreciates it. Obviously, Vega, as all of these players, watch every single episode that we record here on the NFL Stock Exchange show. So I'm sure he appreciates
Starting point is 01:00:39 it watching at home. Eagles at 23. I mean, is it as obvious is Kenyon Sadiq, depending on what happens with, I know we've made this connection so many times before, but, you know, depending on what happens with Dallas Goddard, it feels like he's not going to be resigned, so he's not going to be there. They lean so heavily into the tight end being a major part of their offense. Yeah, it wasn't the year that a lot of people wanted from Sadiq, but I think he's a crazy athlete. You have the athletic potential from him. I think he's a really good blocker as well. The potential for him to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL is there. Now, is he hitting the ground running the way that we?
Starting point is 01:01:15 thought that he might, coming from Oregon to the NFL, no, but she was a little bit more natural as a receiver. I wish they got him involved in the passing game a little bit more, but I think the guy's just too talented to pass up, especially when you have a tight end need. And so, I don't know, do you see anybody else? Caleb Lomu, I think about potentially as well. Like maybe that's the long-term Lane Johnson replacement. Monroe Freeling? Monroe Freeling could be. I like, after watching, after doing both of their full scouting reports because again we'll get to the offense tackle episode i'm much more comfortable with caleb lomu than i am in roe mooree maro freeling although i do like him
Starting point is 01:01:54 i just i still think it's cedic i just still think it's kenyon sedic here i don't think there's anybody so it's it's officially sean mannion correct yes who is their office coordinator i mean i'm not going to pretend like i know what sean mannion's going to want to do because last year was his first real year as a coach. He was the quarterback's coach in 2025. He was an offensive assistant the year before that. That's not coaching a position group or being involved in my opinion in designing the offense. So I don't have a feel for what new ideas he'll bring to this.
Starting point is 01:02:34 But it's easy to see how the Eagles can utilize Sadiq in some unique ways. I think so too. And obviously you're in Green Bay system. you've got Tucker Kraft, you've got Luke Musgrave, like very clearly, you know, tight ends a big part of their offense of what they want to do. So if it's anything like, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:50 he was what he was around when he was in Green Bay. I think that that makes, right. I think he makes sense there. People are saying, like, man, you won't have any say it's all Howie. Yeah, obviously, it's going to be much more of Howie Roseman, but I think he's... Yeah, but part of it being the job of the GM is knowing what the hell you're doing schematically.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Obviously, yeah. And Sadiq is one of the biggest scheme combos in the entire first round. That's why, the last time we did a mock draft, I took him to San Francisco, because I'm like, this is a place that I know the coach will know what to do with him. Yeah, I think it's, yeah, let's just. I do think Lomu makes sense. I was going to say, the more I stare at his logo.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I know, just because Lain missed so much time. It's constant now at that age. I'm going Lomu, Tyler. Yeah, I'm going Lomu. Click Lomu and don't let me go back from it. Wait! No, I'm just kidding. Hold the rope.
Starting point is 01:03:52 What did you do? You're up with the Cleveland Browns at 24. The Browns at 24, I believe I had them go with, yeah, Mowingoa at 6. Yes, you did. Get some O-line help here. Now it would be ideal to get some help for the skill group. And I'm going to take, man, it's tough. They have Harold Fanon, so I'm not going to take Sadeke.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And I'm not calling them the same players. but I just wouldn't want to build a room, a tight end room that way. So I'm going to take Casey Concepcion because this now can open up the field a little bit for them, where Concepcion has the big playability. You've helped the offensive line. Obviously, Judkins is a huge part of your identity on offense. I'm not forcing a quarterback pick here at this spot. We've had a, if I was going to double down on offensive line, yeah, there's a world where they could do that.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I love this defense. Like, this defense is absolutely loaded. Could you argue maybe they're looking at another edge rusher? Yeah, but they have a lot to work with on the defensive side of the ball. Let's continue to beef up the offense. Now we've had a combination of power in Mowingoa and vertical speed in Concepcion. 25 the Bears. Got to be something on the defensive front, right, Treve?
Starting point is 01:05:21 I was going to say it's two players. You want to take a guess? Keldrick Falk. Nope. Oh. Okay. Caden McDonald? We got them, folks. You got my ass.
Starting point is 01:05:34 The two players are C.J. Allen, the linebacker from Georgia. Okay. Eventually, if they want to upgrade at that linebacker level. And then the other one's a keen messador. Like, I know Bears fans. I know that Bears fans love the draft. They love team building. I understand that there's going to be a lot of people that, once again,
Starting point is 01:05:49 like I was talking about before when I was thinking about it with the Detroit Lions. Oh, you don't draft the pass rusher who's 25 years old in the first round. You do if it's this kind of situation. The Bears are very clearly in win now mode. You need a player who can get after the quarterback who could help their defensive line right now and in the future. I think Mestore gives you the ability to do that. This is the player that really helps you right now when you are in that winning window, especially while Caleb Williams is not under a full franchise quarterback type of a contract.
Starting point is 01:06:16 You are maximizing his rookie window. And I think by drafting a player like this, you are doing that. So I think I just made my case for this. I'm taking, I'm taking a key Messador for them at 25. And to be honest with you guys, I don't know that many better picks that are realistic for them at 25. And a player that could help them as much as Messador could next year. He is a ready made pass rusher right now for the Bears winning window. See, and this is one where it makes a lot of sense, right?
Starting point is 01:06:47 Because you talk about his pro readiness. It's the end of the first round where, and this is a team ready to win. They're not thinking, well, what's the second contract we're going to? to get out of Messador. No, like the Bears want to win the Super Bowl next year. That's where they are thanks to Ben Johnson. So if anything, and credit to you, you've been high on this player longer than anyone as a draft prospect.
Starting point is 01:07:08 They're getting a discount on him here, probably because of the age and the late breakout. B and Sue said Messador committed to Miami back when there was only 49 states. True. I think it's 48. Louisiana Purchase hadn't even happened here. No Louisiana purchase. We drafted it. We got a Louisiana purchase reference in the show.
Starting point is 01:07:29 People forget this is a history podcast that once a while goes off topic on the NFL draft. Correct. Right. That is what people forget. The Buffalo Bills at 26. Talk about playing yourself because the top five receivers are off the board. Although honestly, if I'm the bills and maybe this isn't the place for this combo, I'm seeing, like, I'm trading some picks or a pick for a receiver that's out.
Starting point is 01:07:56 there on the market. I know Eagles fans hate this, but is AJ Brown available? Because I'm calling for him if he is. Sure. Every single time. So maybe you're not doomed if you get to this spot and you don't have the receiver that you want. Now, looking at the defense that was not great up. It was really good in the secondary last year. It was not great up front. Chat's saying C.J. Allen, which I think could make sense. CJ Allen does make sense. They've had a lot of injuries at linebacker. They've not been good against the run. Your draft C.J. Allen to literally be that hammer to the nail of stopping the run. So yeah, let's go with C.J. Allen here. Part of me was also looking at McPounder because he's just such a force on the
Starting point is 01:08:39 interior of the defensive line. Yeah. But let's get C.J. Allen that can run around and really smash people between the A and the B gaps. And that was a problem for the bills this year. Yeah. I think there's a good pick for them. I do. I think C.J. Allen's a really good prospect. And we'll obviously get the linebacker because it's one of the deeper and more fun positions than this draft. San Francisco 49ers at 27. I'm not picking Caldric Fall because you're kind of running that one back with Michael Williams. I don't think it really helps them. I don't think you take Cade McDonald either.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Kenyon and Sadiq, I would think about there, especially with George Kittles' injury. I know they got some depth tight ends, but Kenyon and Sadiq, he's built different. safety as well I think safety is kind of sneaky for them like a playmaker like Emmanuel McNeil Warren man his stock just keeps going higher and higher like Jaya Brown and Malik Mastoff are good to find safeties but like
Starting point is 01:09:44 Neil Warren's a different type of a playmaker so is Dylan Thineman to be honest with you Thineman and McNeil Warren are going to go probably top 45 Let's go McNeil Warren. I just think he was one of the best playmakers at the position this year. And safety is really good. I can't wait to get to the safety episode because normally there's just not a lot of
Starting point is 01:10:03 safeties to talk about. And this year there's a ton to talk about. And he was, you saw the PFF grades for him. I mean, McNeil Warren was incredibly impactful the last three years in college football, but specifically this year, the instincts and how he was able to break on the ball. I mean, it was just from any alignment. He was awesome. I think he is a game-changing time.
Starting point is 01:10:22 of a back-end defender for them. So let's go McNeil Warren. All right, that leads the Texans on the clock at 28. Another team, the offensive line, can definitely be better. There is the child in me, childish pick in me. That's like, do I take Kenyon Sadiq and just try to get the most athletic weapon possible? But I just don't think it feels like the combo I had a million, times two years ago when it was like should the jets take brock bowers and i was like but they have
Starting point is 01:10:56 no they have no tackles they need to tackle and it kind of worked out for everybody because olu's been really good but brock bowers is amazing so like everybody is right on both sides of it because now the jets actually have an offensive line and bowers is really good and this i don't think by the way sadique is anywhere near the prospect bowers was so that changes the combo but the texans do need the best offensive lineman available in this spot that's monroe freeling territory. Probably. Yeah. Emmanuel Pregnon, if you're looking interior, Maxi Honachore had a good week in Mobile it felt like. He got a little better every day. Yeah, he really did. I think Blake Miller, I think
Starting point is 01:11:35 Jennings Dunker, I think all of these guys are up for potential first round picks. I really do. I think we're going to, I think we're going to have a lot of offensive line and go off the board between this and the first part of the second round. Right. There's just, there's a lot of different options. I'm going to take Monroe Freeling because Because it feels like that is going with the pick where you think he could be a tackle, where a lot of the guys we were just having combos about, I like Jennings Dunker a lot. I just think he's a guard.
Starting point is 01:12:04 And Pregnon is a guard. And there was another player on that list as well. Miller's not. Miller's a legit tackle. He's a legit tackle. He honored George probably a legit tackle. Caleb Tiernan for as tall as he is has really short arms. He does.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to go. I'm going to go Monroe Freeling there and help the Texans offensive line. They got to keep C.J. Stroud upright, man. We saw how much of a disaster things are when he's not. So for the Rams at 29, I gave them Ty Simpson already. I like Blake Miller here.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I think he makes a ton of sense, the offensive tackle for Clemson. I'm thinking about him. If they want to invest a little bit more in athleticism, maybe they're a team that takes a big chance on Max Yonachar, the offensive tackle from Arizona State, who I think was the best offensive tackle in Mobile at the Senior Bowl. Are they going to take an offensive tackle at 29?
Starting point is 01:13:01 I mean, maybe they take C-Say. That's the only other guy that I'm thinking about at Corner. Maybe they take Aviontorel? You think Avionteau goes here? I feel like Shulup would prefer to have some bigger DBs. I think every defensive back would. A lot of them do. You don't see a lot of coaches that are like,
Starting point is 01:13:22 I like short-armed smaller DVs. I think Avionn-Torrell is like. really smart, man. I just think he's a really smart football player. He's a competitive run defender. I think I'm taking him. They've tried to really fix that secondary in that cornerback room, bringing different guys in, picking up Emmanuel Forbes, trading for Roger McCreary, and I just don't think that it's even where they still want it to be. So Avion Terrell is somebody who I don't think they're going to be worried about it all, maybe a little bit from a size perspective, but not a football IQ perspective. I'm going to take Avion Terrell here for them at 29.
Starting point is 01:13:59 All right. So Aviont Terrell for the Rams secondary. We talked about how corner could have been in play even earlier. The Broncos at 30 who definitely need to get a better run game going next year. That's no secret. It feels like the coach and the quarterback currently hate each other. So many of the chat saying Messador played against Kurt Signetti, but as a player. That's good. I like it.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I do like it. Sorry I had to answer something important. Okay. The Broncos at 30. But did you see what's going on with Bo Nixon, Sean Payton? No. So, Oh man, it's absolute theater.
Starting point is 01:14:43 It's like, it's like a WWE storyline. So Sean Payton to the media was saying how Bo had like the, basically it was a matter of time before something happened to his ankle because of his past. And it was like pretty like in depth explanation. And then Bo, I don't know if he was doing a media hit or, or just talking to the Denver media. but it's this recorded like you could listen to it on twitter beau was like very very aggressive in turning that down very aggressive where he was like i've never had problems with why would
Starting point is 01:15:17 payton say that insane move insane and i was so glad for bow to and he called him sean he didn't call him coach which was like hell yeah bow uh this was the exact quote i don't think he should really share how many surgeries I've had in the past, to be honest with you. He doesn't even really know that, but it's good to be, it's good, going to be good to get back, get back to work. But it was like, it was longer than that and it was. That's about as feisty as Bo Nix is going to get. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:46 If anyone's ever been around Bo Nix or listen to Bow Nix media, he's not like. Interesting. So anyway, let's get the vibes back for Denver. My God. Maybe you should have kicked the field goal, Sean Payton. No. No. No.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I want to see this run game get better. Man, this board really wiped out. Is this the Joker? I know. And take over the Evan Ingram spot. Right. Honestly, we might be down to that. Look at how much of this board really.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And it's too early for the next running back in this class. Yeah, I think it is Sadiq. It's a good, like, this is the, value for Sadiq, right? Even with the questions he has. Oh, yeah, I think so. This kind of athlete, schematically, they're going to know how to use him. All those boots and rollouts they do, and his speed and lead blocking can help in the
Starting point is 01:16:47 run game. When you get him on the move as that slice blocker or even out in front on screens, yes. And they need some more juice in their past catching group, and he'll bring that. I think this is an easy pick if he gets to this spot. Patriots at 31. probably Keldrick Falk, right? Or he brought up, didn't you bring up the Gabbakas fit the other day? I did. I did.
Starting point is 01:17:15 Does Gabbacus get, my only thing is, does Gae Bacchus get drafted ahead of Keldrick Falk? Probably no. No, no he doesn't. So if you're thinking about that player, you're just going to draft Keldrick Falk. So, yes, if I don't end up going with a, with a defensive lineman or an edge rusher here, I am certainly down to put Gabakis in that conversation if we get to the Patriots and he's all on the board. But I think the Patriots don't pick again until, yeah, 63.
Starting point is 01:17:42 So I don't even think Gaybakis make it at the 63 at that point. No. Rayble would love Falk. I think he would too. Maybe you think about linebacker, but get linebackers so deep this year. Maybe you love one of these guys at 31,
Starting point is 01:17:59 but Keldrick Falk's just, he's just too much of the total. I don't want to say total package because he can't. He hasn't really been able to get after the password the way that you've wanted to. But like from a size and explosive in this combination, that getting a player like that at 31, you just don't get very often. So I think Falk could go much higher than this,
Starting point is 01:18:20 but the fact that he makes it to 31, I think you do take him here if you're the Patriots and you just try to get a little bit better out of him as a pass rusher. But to be honest with you, you don't even necessarily need whole one-on-one passers winners. The Patriots are like a, a swarming pass rush team. Yeah, of course, Milton Williams can win very quickly for you.
Starting point is 01:18:39 So can Christian Barmore, but like they all, I feel like they all just really work together very well in the defense volume. I think Falk would be a great addition. So I wouldn't love them in certain team situations in the first round, but I do like it for the Patriots. So let's go with Celtric Falk from Auburn. Seahawks at 32. I'm going to take Colton Hood here, the corner from Tennessee,
Starting point is 01:19:00 who was pretty good in Mobile. I know he got beat a couple of times. when I watched the reps he got beat on, one-on-ones where corners in Mobile can be like, it's tough. It's tough. I thought he looked good. I thought he looked patient. I thought he stayed in the hip pocket.
Starting point is 01:19:14 I thought he showed his ability to get his head around and try to make a play on the ball. He had a great year on tape, especially after they lost Ramad McCoy for the year, what was thrown on his play. And he took those responsibilities and ran away with them. Young player, obviously. Tarik Wollin, leaving in free agency.
Starting point is 01:19:32 this secondary has so much talent across the board, but they're always going to make that a priority in Mike McDonald's defense. A lot of people in the chat are mad at the Keldrick Falk pick saying that he's not explosive. I feel like Keldrick Falk is explosive for his size. I thought Keldrick Falk's tape was more impressive than his very disappointing raw stats. I thought so too, man. I still think that this is a back end of the first round, early part of the second round type of a player.
Starting point is 01:20:01 People are bringing up the fact that they moved on from Kion White. that is a point that I think is valid, but I think that they just didn't like Keon White anymore. I don't think it's necessarily because they just, they don't like that type of a football player. If Keon White was more productive, I feel like they don't move on from him. But we'll obviously do a lot more research into all of these teams
Starting point is 01:20:23 and exactly the players that they need. But I feel like he would be great on a Mike Vable Defensive front. So I don't know. I feel like that's a little much to say that he's not explosive for the player that he is for the size that he is. All right, round two. Yeah, well, before we get to round two, got to pay the bills real quick.
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Starting point is 01:23:01 I'm not complaining. You're offering. It's the big game, as they say. I don't know what are you doing. What are you doing for the big game? Actually mention, you know, the words, the trademarked words, but, you know, it's the big game. All right, second round. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Let's dig into it. Yep, yep. This is me or you. This is you, partner. You're the odds. Oh, the chats. So you went with David Bailey. Mackay Lemon and David Bailey.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Mackay Lemon. I mean, this is Cade McDonald's, right? All day. Yeah, I mean, this is, this is, I mean, you, I don't know if you could draft better for the Jets. You can't. This is actually like breaking the algorithm. I, again, I would have taken Ruben Mayn at the top, but. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:45 I, you know, if you're going to be like, hey, man, you got to take David Bailey and McCarlem and, and Kate McDonnell, be like, ah. Well, because think, think about it now, right? Glenn historically has run both fronts, style fronts. And I saw people, people are yelling it's rigged. People, sure. Guess what? It's our mock draft. You could hate me, but you watched.
Starting point is 01:24:11 But say the Jets run more of a three, because people are like, well, they have Will McDonald's already. If they run a three-four with Bailey and McDonald's, you need to have a huge, huge group of detackles and three-four ends. I mean, if you have a front of Harrison Phillips, very stout nose tackle, Caden McDonald's, very, very, very stout defensive tackle. And Joanne Briggs, who was really good last year. That's a five man where you're like, whoa. Like we're actually going to be able to get downhill and attack and defend the run. So, yeah, this kind of fell into the Jets lap perfectly.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Caden McJets. Here it is. All right, Cardinals. Cardinals at 34. I believe you had them take Arvel Reese in the, it feels like days ago. Arvel Reese at three, which is pretty awesome. I'd like to add to the offensive line here. Okay, let's look at, I would imagine the best players
Starting point is 01:25:08 that are our interior players right now. Manuel Pregnon. Man, I kind of like Jennings Dunker here for them. Is that early, crazy? Uh, well, they don't have a head coach. Let's say it's Mike LaFleur. So I don't know. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:30 You know, Jennings Dunker, it was good to get to watch him live because I think that there are, to me, a lot of the issues with Jannings Dunker, and I was talking with Dalton Washington about this, when we were watching him in person, a lot of the issues with him is his stance, his pre-snap stance isn't really loaded. It's kind of like he's on his heels. And then let's say, let's say he's set up and he's running to the right. He almost like, you know how some people are very, you know, they're very like on their quads, they're on their toes, they're ready to explode.
Starting point is 01:26:02 the second the ball is snap, boom, like you're just going in this direction. But for Jennings Dunker, at least the first day that we watched him in practice, it's almost like he like loaded and then went. And I think it's just because his stance wasn't a very loaded stance, which is weird to think of a guy who just has such great zone blocking and outside zone rush grades over the last couple of years, but I think that's a product of Iowa as well. All of that to say, I like Jennings Dunker a lot more on day two and day three of the senior ball. I think he is a second round caliber pick type of a player. I don't think he's a tackle, but he actually did better at tackle in the second and
Starting point is 01:26:38 third days of the senior ball than I thought he was going to. And if you fix his stance a little bit and you can get it a little bit more springy and more explosive and more loaded, I think you're talking about a really good football player. So they need interior offensive line help. There's no doubt about it. I think Dunker is a great option. But I also think I Anature is a good option for them. I think Blake Miller is a good option for them.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Emmanuel Pregnan is a good option for them. any of those four players, I think make a ton of tens for them here at 34. Yeah, it's tricky. I definitely have my concerns about it. I don't not think he's a tackle. That's the problem. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:27:13 Petey said, imagine Dunker and head coach. I don't know why. Just because I think we talk about him at different positions, but that just made me laugh. All right, I'm a coward. I'm going to take pregnant on at 34 and get somebody that I know
Starting point is 01:27:27 is at least a guard today. Not going to play the game of having to transition to a different position and yeah. I, I, I, hold on. I do want to read this super chat because Boston Ryan gave us a $100. Holy smokes. Thank you, Boston Ryan.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Thank you, Boston Ryan. We really appreciate it. It says, had to take Campbell and Gonzo's pads off the other day for a media shoot. Took three guys for Gonzo. I was worried that I was going to injure him beyond tight. is this a new phenomenon also caught an underhanded pass from Drake, Drake, May, May, my life is complete. Yeah, I mean, you could never wash your hands again, you know, from somebody who allegedly never washes his hands. I have never watched my hands for less, and you've caught an underhanded pass from Drake May.
Starting point is 01:28:18 So I think that you've got to join me in this brotherhood here. Yeah, I think that the new thing with pads is to make them basically like skin tight. as small as possible as like you're just trying to stay as aerodynamic and as athletic as possible everybody's actually just taking michael bennett's lead you remember michael bennett had the smallest shoulder patch he was just he was just out there with delts showing out his delts were his pads which was awesome the man's all dealt it's i wouldn't say it's not new but it continues to trend the same way. So like every year it feels like pads get smaller and less noticeable. And jerseys are more cropped now than they used to be. That's a Nike thing. Reeboks jerseys were more baggier
Starting point is 01:29:11 unless you tailored it a certain way. The Nike jerseys are very, very cropped and cut a certain way, a very different way. They're so different. We'll just wait until they outlaw tackling and then it's just flag football. And then you want to have pads. Yeah. And it's just shorts and it's just shorts and Maybe a penny. Yeah. Maybe. No, no preseason game. One preseason game.
Starting point is 01:29:33 24 regular season games. No, no, NHL, 82 games. Sorry, 82 regular season games. But just no contact. So now, like, you don't have to worry about the wear and tear. No. This is the football the next generation wants, and we're here to fight against it. Who did the Titans take at 35?
Starting point is 01:29:51 Did we have them taking Rubin Bain? Yes. Robert Sal against Rubin Bain. Good pick, Bobby. 35 Titans Ooh See You see
Starting point is 01:30:09 Can I see all the wide receivers Please Tyler? Hmm Does Omar Cooper Jr. Get drafted this high? I think if you test well he's got a shot Because Chris Bell's coming off the ACL tear Right
Starting point is 01:30:37 Jeremy Bernard I don't think he's going to test super well I don't think the Elijah Surat's going to test super well either It's either that or offensive line But I think that offensive line is probably the better value for them now that I'm kind of like thinking out loud here. I am going to go with the idea that J.C. Latham's going to be a guard. Unless there's somebody in the chat who balls the Titans more closely than I do, who is like, no, no, no, no, no, he's a tackle 100% about it.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Because if not, then I'm going to take Blake Miller. Because I think Blake Miller is a fringe first round type of an offensive line. I think he's a fringe first round type of an offensive line. So then you're kicking J.C. Latham inside. he's playing guard, and then you've got Blake Miller at offensive tackle. Dan Moore's on the other side. Man, I just don't think that... Some people in the chat are talking about Jeremy Bernard.
Starting point is 01:31:40 I just don't think he goes this high. I don't think he's going to test well enough to go this high. Yeah, I remember what we were saying. It's like Jarvis Landry style with him. Latham's going to be a fullback. Yeah, yeah, okay. There's good. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:31:54 They do need cornerback pretty bad, don't they? Somebody's mentioned a corner. Yes, they do. The Csay is here. How bad is it? How bad is it? But Jerry Steen's not going to be on the team anymore. No.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Derell Baker Jr., Jalen Armour Davis, Kairilm, oh, Marcus Harris. Oh, it's bad. I'm going to go Keith Abney. Give me Keith Abney. I didn't realize it was that.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I didn't realize it was that bleak, folks. Yeah. I forgot that it was that bleak for the Titans. Now, let's go defense. Let's go defense. Keith Abney. Riders are on the clock. Draft Isaiah Wilson again.
Starting point is 01:32:37 would, but he's not in the class. Sorry. Can't. This is a team that needs help across the board. You look at all the different needs right there. Ooh, they could have used corner. They could use corner. Cise actually makes a lot of sense. Potentially. Yeah, they drafted a couple of receivers last year.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I still would love the idea of to bring one of the Indiana guys with Mendoza, but I'm not going to do that here. I'm going to go with Brandon Cise. Get them an outside cover corner. for a defense that needs help at all three levels. And we'll try to, we might be a little faster in the second round, everybody, so bear with us. Sorry about that.
Starting point is 01:33:14 If we take a pick and we only give like two lines on a guy. I think I took Jordan Tyson for the, believe it took Jordan Tyson for the Giants. Yeah, there we go. Oh, that's a clean way of seeing. Look at you, Tyler. Oh my God. Oh, you love to see it.
Starting point is 01:33:29 Can I see guards? Can I see guards for this team? Dunker, yeah. I think Dunker could make a lot of sense for them. They've been bad at center, haven't they? I know John Michael Schmitz did not work out the way they hoped. I'm not taking a center at 37. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 01:33:57 I'm not taking a center in this class of 37. I'm thinking Dunker or can I see corners? Because corners are the other spot that I'm thinking about here for the, for the, for the, for the jury. You tired of the Tay Banks experience? Oh, Keante Scott. Keante Scott. They have Drew Phillips, but do we think Drew Phillips could play on the outside? He was really good year one.
Starting point is 01:34:25 I don't think he was as good as good following that. Scott definitely fits the Denard Wilson tough guy, like tough corner kind of mold. I know. I think I'm going to pick this. I'm just, I'm looking up specific snap counts here for Drew Phillips. Give you one sec.
Starting point is 01:34:56 He was, yeah, he's been mostly in the slot. I don't know. He's barely played out wide. He's only played 74 snaps out wide. I think he can play out wide, though. I remember watching him in the senior bowl,
Starting point is 01:35:09 and I feel like he can play out wide. All right, just give me Jenny Stunker. Because I think the Kianti, I think Kianti, he's serious. I think Kianti Scott's only a slot. And if Drew Phillips is only a slot as well, then you don't really help yourself there. I don't really love another corner at this spot this high. Like Christian, people talk about Chris Johnson.
Starting point is 01:35:33 If you want to play off zone coverage, I like Chris Johnson, but I thought he struggled this week. when he was asked to play press man. I did not love it. He wasn't just like not great. Like I thought he struggled this week. So you've got to be a very heavy zone coverage team. And I just don't think that has a ton of value at this spot.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Jennings Dunker, I think does actually have value and makes you better on the interior. Yeah, let's go. Let's go Jennings Dunker here for them. 38, the Texans. This is from the Laramie Me Tunzel trade with the commanders. I'm going to take Judari in Price. They're running back from Notre Dame. The Texans.
Starting point is 01:36:09 They need a difference maker in the backfield. I'm not relying on Joe Mixin to come back. Giudarian Price, because he split the work with Jeremiah Love, went a little under the radar, although obviously Notre Dame fans know him well. He's a stud. He's an elite zone runner. He is really strong pound for pound.
Starting point is 01:36:28 I think he's going to develop as a pass catcher. He's an elite kick returner. Price is phenomenal. Absolute phenomenal. And now the Texans can get some explosive plays out of their backfield. All right, who we got for, man Francis Maui Noah and Casey Concepcion already the Cleveland Browns
Starting point is 01:36:44 may you feel pretty good about this hmm I mean I hit the two big needs for them man I can go O line again I mean I could absolutely go O line again yeah they have a lot of rebuilding to do on that part of the team Jimmy Maxioniture developmental tackle
Starting point is 01:37:21 coming off the big week coming off the big week coming off a huge week I feel like he got better over time which was great to see people are saying Trinidad
Starting point is 01:37:30 are we gonna are we gonna act like Trinidad's in this draft I am okay cool okay cool I figure we might as well until he's not
Starting point is 01:37:38 but for this pick give me Maxianature I thought day two and day three of the senior bowl he was so unbelievably impressive just the athlete
Starting point is 01:37:47 that he is how great he was in pass protection I think with him and Maui Noah I mean you're talking about to book in potential booking offensive tackles for you for the next couple of years. So I really like the potential of that.
Starting point is 01:37:58 And I've said multiple times, O line, O line, O line for the Cleveland Browns. All right. The Chiefs are on the clock at 40. You took Caleb Banks for them in the first round with the ninth pick. I'm going to go on the offensive side of the ball here. I'm going to make a pick that I don't know how people are going to feel about it. But I'm going to take Jonah Coleman here at 40. I don't love the way the wide receiver board is right now.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I'm not just going to take one to take one. Hopefully they can find a way in the pro market to get another pass catcher. They'll have to. If Chris Bell wasn't hurt, he would make a lot of sense for them. I think I can get one of these other guys in the third round. So I'm going to take Jonah Coleman, who has got good feet for his 230 pound frame. He's got natural pass catching hands. He's physical as hell.
Starting point is 01:38:50 He's creative as a runner. This is the kind of guy. if they're not going to get Jeremiah love that fits the Kansas City backfield. He runs damn hard. So obviously that's something that the... She's awesome. Chiefs have gravitated towards over the last couple of times that they've gotten it back there. Cincinnati Bengals, you took Caleb Downs for them at number 10.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Can I see interior defensive line and then interior offensive line, Tyler? Because I think that's what I'm really going to be deciding between. Oh, Lee Hunter. Easy. Very easy. forgot about Lee Hunter, who had the best day one in Mobile by far. One of the best players in Mobile. One of the best players in Mobile was really fast with his hands, really good in run defense as well. Even against a double team drills, I mean, he was fantastic.
Starting point is 01:39:44 One of the best players in Mobile, no question. And a really good year this past year for one of the best defensive lines in the country. He really developed. He had his best year as a pass rusher, I think, really solid run defender as well. To get Caleb Downs, Lee Hunter, I mean, Bengals fans got to be pumped about that. Yeah. The Saints at 42. I went on the offensive side of the ball with them in the first round and took Carnell Tate. It was kind of him and Jeremiah love in that spot.
Starting point is 01:40:12 I think this is a team that could use another pass rusher. It's just a matter of, I know exactly what I'm going to take. I was thinking the type of pass rusher. This is Gabe Accus to me in this spot. Could see it. Because he absolutely see it. He has the size that they, They would covet.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I was saying on our pod Wednesday, in the spring he was 279. At the senior bowl, he was 260. We've now seen him play at a high level at two different weight classes, standing up in with his hand in the dirt. So for the Saints, this is the kind of guy you want. So Miami's up next. Germant McCoy, I went with a corner for them. I mean, there's some wide receivers here that you could think about.
Starting point is 01:41:01 I mean, is this the Trinidad spot? It easily could be. I mean, it feels like the Tua era is over. Yeah, the two areas definitely over. So then if it's not Malik Willis, they did hire the Green Bay guys. And you're in a situation where you're not going to have a ton of flexibility to bring in a quarterback that you feel great about because you've got a lot of dead cap that you're going to be dealing with to get rid of Tua. I think of a post-June, isn't it like $63 million?
Starting point is 01:41:31 I mean, it's a crap ton of money. So I think they will, they have, they have Quinn Ewers, obviously. So you can get away with sort of like being like, oh, you know, we'll go into next season with Quinn and it'll be fine. Yeah. He played better than I thought he would. I want to put that out there, Quinn. But it's not saying a ton. I know.
Starting point is 01:41:55 I would, I would take Trinidad Chambliss here if on Miami. If those guys can't get Malik Willis to go there because they're both from Green Bay, I'm with. you that this is the spot to take Trinidad. Yeah, yeah. I just don't know if you're going to have the money because there's going to be a lot of other teams that are going to be bidden up. Right. And I don't think Trinidad's going to be in this draft, but the power of the law, the lawsuit. People are saying do not take a QB here for Miami.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Whatever pick we make, there's always people saying they hate it. No, I know, but there's there are way more people that don't want to go quarterback here for Miami. I mean, you know. If it makes them feel any better, I would have highly considered Trinidad at 44 for the Jets. So I don't think it's like a range thing with Trinidad. It's just a Miami thing. All right. Well, don't.
Starting point is 01:42:43 Okay. Let me see guards then. Guard is probably, no, take the, take who you want to take. What we talk to? Peter said please take a quarterback here and he funds the entire show. So what really matters? That's actually, yeah, that's a good point. But Peter's being an antagonist this episode.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Which is great. He's being a gold medal instigator, this entire show. Oh, man. I like Chase Bissontas as well. I don't know if 43. Can I see the overall board? Yeah. I can see him going in the second round.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Ooh. He saw something, folks. Eli Stowers. Whoa. You Johnny Smith just dropped. Yep. Yep. Eli Stowers.
Starting point is 01:43:37 Eli Stowers, I think, because I was thinking about receiver. I was thinking about the tight end spot. Eli Stowers, I actually think is going to be the second tight end drafted in this draft. that's kind of my take that I'm self-launching. You're like letting it marinate a little bit? Yeah, yeah. I think he's a damn good receiver. I think he's just such a great overall X-factor type of a playmaker.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Yeah, give me Stowers. I like Stowers more than the receiver options that are on the board for them anyways. All right, the Jets at 44, their last pick of the show. This is the fourth of four picks. David Bailey, Mackay Lemon, Caden McDonald's. To round out this draft, I said that Trinette Chambliss was potentially in play here. but I'm going to take the safety from Oregon Dylan Thineman. The Jets are horrendous at safety.
Starting point is 01:44:24 He can do everything for them, some ball skills in range. You see the snap counts everywhere. I think they sign one in free agency to be a starter, but then they have to draft one as well. Thineman is a day one starter. For Baltimore, I'm immediately thinking Omar Cooper Jr. And after looking up their roster, I feel pretty good about this.
Starting point is 01:44:48 It kind of depends on what Maddibuque status. Somebody just said that Maddibuque literally tweeted like good news or something. So well, that solves it. Right. I mean, you know, I hold that that's true. Give me Omar Cooper Jr. Okay. I'm going Omar Cooper Jr.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Here, the wide receiver from Indiana, who I do actually think is going to be the first Indiana wide receiver drafted here. pairing him with state flowers. I feel pretty good about that. Your buckos at 46. I believe you took Cassius Howl, if my memory serves me correct at 15. I love that pick for them. Let's help the pass rush.
Starting point is 01:45:25 K. Dotten is a pending free agent. Is that right? He is what they like him. I think he'll be back. Why would K.D.D.N. leave. No, I also think that it's much more likely. I was just kind of going through in my brain the scenarios for them. It's kind of tricky.
Starting point is 01:45:47 Oh, no. No, because they have a small corner in my boyfriend, Kansas State last year. I was going to take Ponds. Yeah. But you can't have two five foot nine corners. Sure you can. You can. I think Scott is there, though.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Who would play the slot, but they had. And then Paris should play on the outside. Which he did really well in college, but. And then Zion McCollum, and you also have Benjamin Morrison. Right. Man, Scott would help the secondary in a lot of ways. I think they would like Scott, but, um, Who did they take in the first round?
Starting point is 01:46:26 Who did I say they take? Cash is out. So now they're just taking, they're just taking smaller. Scott's not real small, but he plays the linebacker. Who's a linebacker? Who's a linebacker?
Starting point is 01:46:34 Jake Golday. No. Anthony Hill. Yeah, I mean, Anthony Hill, I think it would be excellent. Anthony Hill is the for them. Anthony Hill is the pick.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Yeah. Especially in Todd Bull's defense to have that kind of, you know, smash mouth, like run defense-centric. it's got good size. 632.3.3. I guarantee he's going to be at least
Starting point is 01:46:59 245 at the combine. Yeah. This fits their run defense in the middle. So now they have somebody that can get out to the quarterback and now they have somebody in the middle of the field to stop the run. I'm taking Trinidad out here
Starting point is 01:47:11 for the Colts. Okay. I mean, what are their options right now? You're maybe bringing back Janeu Jones who's coming off an Achilles tear. You have Anthony Richardson, but you kind of already tried that. What other options do you have?
Starting point is 01:47:24 I mean, maybe they bring in Rogers, I don't know. But I actually think that Trinidad Chambliss with Shane Stuyken would be awesome. Give me Trinidad Chamblis. Love them. I loved how he played out of structure. I love what we saw last year. It's a great baseline for somebody who could play the game at a high level, under pressure situations.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Really good rollout and play action and RPO type of a quarterback when you want to throw those things in. And the coach just, they have to figure out quarterback and they have to figure it out pretty quickly. He's available for them in the middle of the second round. I like this fit for him. Balkans up 48. They went, they didn't go anywhere in the first round because the Rams had their pick.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Sorry, guys. If they're going to make this work with Michael Penix, and I think Stifansky is going to do his best to make it work with Michael Penix before. And if it doesn't, he'll get his own quarterback and all of that. But this year when Pennix comes back from injury, it's about him. They got to get somebody that can win down the field, man. You got to have some. It's got to be a play action-based offense with Bejohn Robinson.
Starting point is 01:48:29 And when Zach Robinson did that, it was good. The problem was they didn't do enough of it. So I'm going to go with Chris Bell here. Chris Bell, it would be him or Brazel. Bell went healthy. It's a little bit more exciting to me as a vertical threat in this offense. Who would we take for Minnesota? Jeremiah Love at 18.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Oh, yeah, they got Jeremiah Love. I think this is AJ Halsey for me. Can I see all the safeties? They need corner help, but like they absolutely need safety help as well. It's a really good safety class. Every time I look at this group, Bud Clark had a great week in Mobile. He did. This is a good safety class.
Starting point is 01:49:09 This, I love AJ Halsey, though. I mean, I still think he's one of my favorite safeties in this draft. Love him as an over-the-middle type of a defender. He hits like a Mack truck. He can cover for you in single high situations. I think Hallsey's a stud. I thought he was a stud at Houston. I thought he was a stud this past year at LSU.
Starting point is 01:49:24 And with Harrison Smith retiring. I mean, they don't really have a lot of options at safety. So let's go AJ Halsey here for the Vikings. Lines at 50. I believe Trev, yeah, you went into a guard solution for them and Caden Proctor. I'd like to see what we have available on the edge. Oh, I know exactly who I'm going to take because he was on the main screen. But I'll look at all the edge class just to show everybody.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Oh, you're going to take, oh, my gosh, this is the most slam-done pick of the whole mock draft. Zion Young. Yes. Campbell's going to want that heavy-handed, big edge setting, pass rush got so much. better this year. It looked damn good on the clips you were posting at Mobile. It looked damn good on the practice tape. Zion Young plays hard the way that Campbell's going to want. Yeah, lock it in. This is the guy across your maiden Hutchinson.
Starting point is 01:50:09 This is, if you're the lines, you come away with Caden Proctor and Zion Young, that's one of the best one and two combinations that we've done here. So I had Peter Woods for the Panthers. I think Deontay Lawson could make sense for them, getting a new linebacker. in there. There's not really a wide receiver that I love in this spot.
Starting point is 01:50:47 German Bernard is just really consistent, kind of like Jalen Koker is really consistent, but I think I'd take Lawson over him for the Panthers. QJ was in the chat saying Jacob R. Grieges as well. I don't know if Jacob Ravrege is going 51, though. Jacob Rod Pounder.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Pause. I like, I don't, I just don't know if Rodriguez is going this high, guys. Well, it's going to depend if teams think he can run. That's all it's going to depend on. We know it can do everything else. Last thing I'm checking. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:51:41 I don't think they take it tight in at 51. No. Yeah, let's just take Deonté Lawson. Let's take Lawson. They just, they need a linebacker help. Well, lucky me. I am on the clock for the Packers. There it is.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Somebody said you have to pick for the even number so you get the Packers, because I was by myself when you left me for the Monday episode, and I got the Packers in the Wheel. By the way, I didn't get the Packers in the Evil Wheel where they were taking up 25% of the piece of the pie. I got the small sliver of a Packer, the Packers on the wheel. That was incredible. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I picked Lee Hunter for him and everybody was pumped about it, but that's not an option for you. You know, I can take, though. Christian Miller. Christian Miller's still on the board. I know. He is a rock solid player, man. I thought about him or Big Citrus.
Starting point is 01:52:39 But when I saw Miller there, I'm like, we got to get Miller off the board here. They go down into that Georgia pipeline again. He is rugged, tough, got enough athleticism. This is a Green Bay Packer on the D-line. Pittsburgh. I gave them Denzel Boston. Their secondary is so old, man. It's true, but I think they're going to bring back James Pierre.
Starting point is 01:53:09 And when we were going through Fiction Franchise, people were correct. I wasn't given enough credit to Joey Porter, who was better this year. Sure, yeah, he's not old. Yeah. I mean, Kyle Duggers is a free agent, right? I would imagine because I believe he was a trade. Because like what about them drafting Kianti Scott playing him in the nickel and then Ramsey plays more safety for you? Has anyone been more of a stealer?
Starting point is 01:53:37 And yes, Kyle Dugger's a free agent, more of a stealer than Kiante. I feel like he's just an absolute stealer. Yeah, we're going Keante Scott here. I don't think there's anybody that I would like more than him in this spot. Eagles. Caleb Wong, we would do Eagles. So that is their long-term. Is Blake Miller still on the board?
Starting point is 01:53:58 Right tackle. Yes, he is. But you already took a tackle for the Eagles, so I'm not going down that road. Can we look at tight end? I feel like we do this every time and I'll do it again. I'm taking Max Claire. Yeah, I mean, it's a good pick. It's a good pick.
Starting point is 01:54:16 He's just, he fits, he fits them. You're not using a first rounder on him, which you shouldn't anymore. You don't even using a top 50 pick on Claire anymore. Get him back to the form he had two years ago where he's a little bit featured more. Yeah, Max Claire, who can do a little bit of everything for you at tight end and develop him the way. It's not going to be Goddard because Goddard was so damn good, but develop him in the same path. Chargers at 55. might be a little bit
Starting point is 01:54:43 we went Vega-O-Wane you went Vega-O-Wane in the first round you can do it again is it is it time for the Chargers to have their their daily dose of vitamin C be a little big citrus in their life
Starting point is 01:54:59 yeah and defensive tackle could certainly be an area where they're going to look at Dante Corleone I like Corleone I wonder It doesn't feel like he's going in the first two rounds anymore. No, and I watched him at Shrine, and he's dominant at Shrine. Is he going to be durable throughout his NFL career?
Starting point is 01:55:23 I think that's just the big question that I have for him. When he's on the field, he's healthy, you know exactly what you get. You get a dominant nose tackle type. So I like the Godfather, but I think I'm going big citrus here instead. I'm going with Dominic Gorns. Let's go big citrus. Trenches, trenches, offensive and defensive there for the Chargers. Eating your vegetables, as Alex Clancy from Lock,
Starting point is 01:55:46 Cardinals would say. Jaguars is a damn good roster man that Liam Cohen got in the right direction. There's not a pressing panic need for me with Jacksonville. But offensive line is where my brain kind of begins or defensive tackle. Let's look at the offensive line first. Man. But did Blake Miller, I feel like Blake Miller's been playing right tackle where Anton Harrison is locked in. Correct. So that's a big ask. Like if you flip the left?
Starting point is 01:56:25 Yeah. Well, they had Cole Van Lannon, who they just signed too? Right. Who was, yeah, this would probably be more interior depth that you'd be looking at in this spot. Oh, you just took big citrus. Correct. Actually, Basantus makes a lot of sense here.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Could? I think 56. We're in the realm of Chase Bessontas. And also, like Liam Cohen wants to establish that downhill run game. Bessantis is really good in close quarters like that. Yeah, Chase Bessantis, the guard from Texas A&M, who we haven't talked about a lot because we haven't done a lot of deep guard rankings. Yeah, one of the best pass blocking, I think,
Starting point is 01:57:06 interior offensive linemen in the class. Yeah, I'm going to go with Bessantis. There's a lot of directions for Jacksonville because you could have went to your D line as well, but you just had big citrus go in front of me, so I'm going to pivot to a guard instead. Okay. All right, bears are next. Before we get to the bears, our game plan of the week, Presented by Western Southern Financial Group,
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Starting point is 01:57:43 and then he's pretty comfortable and confident throwing against man coverage. And if you're playing a lot of zone, you get to mitigate Drake May's usage of his legs as well because you could put Devon Wetherspoon, one of the linebackers, Nickyman Worry, on him sort of in those spy roles. So I think that the game plan could be playing
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Starting point is 01:58:43 All right. I like Camari Ramsey. I think it could be a solid option for them. I like Genesis Smith and Sakee Wheatley as well. Maybe at 57? because he linebackers. He's he linebackers here for one. Do I do it?
Starting point is 01:59:02 Do I just do it? Do I just do it? What are you going to do? Do I do it for him? Do it to him? Is this the J-Rod spot? Are we just getting J-Rod off the board here? He's like the ultimate crowd pleaser pick.
Starting point is 01:59:14 I know, he is. Everybody, the crowd goes wild every time. I'm going to take Jacob Rodriguez. Jacob Rodriguez to the Bears. Akeem Messador, Jacob Rodriguez. Ah, they can figure out safety a little bit later. Niners at 58. They went Emmanuel McNeil Warren at safety in the first round. Let's get some wide receiver help for the Niners in this spot.
Starting point is 01:59:41 They should get healthier on the defensive front next year. I'm going to take Jeremy Bernard to this team. He just feels like the guy. So Joanne Jennings is a free agent. I don't know if he'll be back. But if you want that possession can play physical, we'll go underneath without any fear. like does everything Kyle Shanahan asked with timing and precision,
Starting point is 02:00:05 Bernard can be that guy in this Niners offense. Kyle is obviously very particular about the type of wide receivers he drafts. I think Bernard's play style fits them. There you go. Bernard, I think it's just a rock solid type of a wide receiver. I don't know how high he's going to go because I don't think he's going to test super well. But you know where you're getting. He's a high floor type of a player.
Starting point is 02:00:25 And I agree. And a Shanahan offense, he could be pretty productive. Who do we pick for the Texas? All right. Monroe Freeling and Judarian Price. It's pretty good. Go back to the O-line well again. I mean, probably.
Starting point is 02:00:39 Blake Miller? Ooh, nope, hold on. Hold on. He's got a bigger idea. I might cook. I might be cooking. Hmm. Hold on. Wait. I might be cooking.
Starting point is 02:01:01 I might be cooking. I don't know if I'm cooking. I'm thinking about Sam Hacked, the center from. Over Connor Liu. Yep. Wow, I thought Sam Hect was amazing this week, but I don't know if I'm there yet. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:23 I like Conner Lue a lot, but I kind of like the potential of Conner Loo more than what I saw this season from him. He's not cooking. And then he tore his ACO. Yeah. And then he surprisingly declared. Right. I didn't see that coming. I still like him, though, a lot.
Starting point is 02:01:49 Do it. Take him. Who's left on the board? Am I forgetting somebody? like obvious that might be there that's like BPA that makes more sense. Don't need Ed Drusher. I mean this team has to have one mission.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Put a viable offensive line in front of our rattled quarterback and also run the football. Everything else is great for this team. Defense, receivers. They're even decent at tight end. Yeah. I'm going to take Sam Hacked. I want to make the statement. Okay.
Starting point is 02:02:26 I'm making the statement. I think he could be one of the best centers in this draft. If I saw him lose a rep, I don't remember. because there were too many reps where I saw him win. I didn't see it lose. He was unbelievable when he was in Mobile. I just, I don't, I don't really know how you get more rock solid than what he has been there. He's super experienced.
Starting point is 02:02:44 He started 25 games and he was at Kansas State. And like you said, the mission is simply putting the best offensive line out there in front of CJ's draft. So there you go. The bills at 60. I know I picked for them in the first round. CJ Allen helped their, the receivers just didn't work out for the bills. I've said that I think they need to trade for one. I think I'm going to go back to defense again for them and take Armeson Thomas and kind of put him in that role they had Joey Bosa in this year where it's like, hey, we need a disruptor that can close out games for us when the other team's in a passing script.
Starting point is 02:03:19 They're going to still need that guy. So let's go with the fall for our Mason Thomas, which is because of the injuries he's had. And now that front seven gets a real nice infusioned talent. Once again with the caveat, I think the bills can trade or sign a receiver to help them in that area. Yeah, my boy, our Mason Thomas. We love to see it. Blake Miller is still on the board. I think it's a very obvious pick now for the Rams.
Starting point is 02:03:41 And come away in this two-round mock draft with Ty Simpson on Avion and Terrell and Blake Miller. I think those are three future starters for you. And so you feel pretty dang good about that. I thought about Blake Miller at 29, to be honest with you. I feel like he's going earlier than 61, but he's lasting until 61 and they haven't addressed offensive line yet. I think that Blake Miller is awesome. Anybody who's been listening to this podcast for the last couple of years
Starting point is 02:04:05 knows that I've been pretty high on Blake Miller and I've sort of seen that potential for him. I feel like he was even better this season than he ever has been. So I think he's put his best foot forward going into the NFL. You don't worry about him when it comes to, you know, length and overall size to play the position at the NFL level. It's just been about him playing a little bit stronger and getting a little bit stronger.
Starting point is 02:04:23 But I think he has over the last couple of years and I think that can continue. So there you go. All right, I'm on the clock with the Denver Broncos again. they got Kenyon Sadeek in the first round which was pretty sweet for them to have him fall now you look at so they got a tight end I mean I think they
Starting point is 02:04:41 maybe they go the route they did last year where they sign a Dobbins like player as that vet with RJ Harvey again and just hope that player stays healthy and Harvey takes the next step so I'm not actually looking running back here hmm you know what's weird with the Broncos
Starting point is 02:05:01 as great as their defense was it felt like there were times teams could run the ball on them where I'm wondering like is this a spot where you try to get some beef as a rotational defensive tackle up front or do we just continue to add juice to the offense and try to get a vertical stretch threat but like that's what they want franklin to be they have minx right right I just feel like you're you're starting to get redundant with the the various number twos threes and fours right right I feel you so I see uh brettiter in the chat says linebacker's their biggest need and brings up Jake Gold day, which is a really good recommendation if you're
Starting point is 02:05:37 going to take linebacker here. Let's look at the linebacker board. Yeah. Because I know they have singleton. Yeah, they are they are getting they're aging a little bit at linebacker it feels like. Um, and gold day is good value here. All right. I'll take Jake Gold day help the middle of their defense. And this is right where he's going to he's going to be in that like 45 to 60ish kind of range, I think in this draft. Um, Pat's are back on the clock. Since you. guys hated the Keldrick Falk pick so much. I'm gonna do it again with L.T. Overton. I'm gonna do it again.
Starting point is 02:06:13 I saw somebody say Romello height. I mean, again, I think that he also makes sense for the Patriots. Hey, you want a small, you want a small edge rusher? Here's your wish. Right. It's like 2.30. Well, actually, actually, if I'm thinking about any pastors you're here for them, I'm actually thinking about Derek Moore, probably. Because he plays with a little bit more power than Ramello height does.
Starting point is 02:06:37 But he can also play that stand-up outside linebacker at Drusher role. Yep. Let's see. Oh, somebody says Chris Johnson. Actually, man, they don't have a lot of CB depth. Well, because Carlton Davis is getting older. Christian Gonzalez, they're going to extend because he's great, but he's the guy. Marcus Jones is a good slot.
Starting point is 02:07:02 But you're right. It is about depth. And both Gonzalez and Davis get hurt. They do. So it's important for sure. I still don't love their offensive line, but I don't know if you could fix that here. Yeah, I don't either,
Starting point is 02:07:20 but like Wilson played guard for them and can play center. So like of the options that are there, I like center the most, but I don't really think that that helps them. You're saying safety or linebacker potentially, I feel like Hawkins played really well this year, and I think Craig Woodson played really well this year. Yeah, I think Woods,
Starting point is 02:07:46 was more up and down than I initially had realized. But like he's a rookie, he's a rookie, and he wasn't drafted in the first two rounds. So they're just so well coached on both sides of the ball. Connor and the chats are Kyle Lewis. Right. Yeah. I don't know if Kyle Lewis is going. They oddly, they oddly for a Super Bowl team do have a lot of needs because they just got there.
Starting point is 02:08:14 They're still tinkering that roster. Can I see corners? I don't like Chris Johnson for this team. because they play too much mad. I mean, maybe Dealing Everett. Can I see linebackers? It's weird. Like, yeah, they have needs,
Starting point is 02:08:43 but like a lot of the players that are here, I guess Josiah Trotter. But he's basically what Robert Spillane is. Right. Trotter's coverage grade was bad. He's an attacking linebacker. Can I see the overall board? I think I'm just going to pick best player available at this point.
Starting point is 02:09:06 Just give me Derek more, I guess. Just give me another defensive lineman. Just give me a better pass rusher. I just don't really like how this board fell. Like you can pick Caleb Tiernan, but I don't know about Kay. I have not watched his full eval yet, and I'm worried about the arm length with him. Yeah, it'd be a guard for them,
Starting point is 02:09:25 which they're going to have, I think, that problem eventually with Will Campbell. And he just, they need a real tackle on both sides with Morgan Moses getting older. I got to do a deep dive on the pay. Obviously, the Patriots, like, haven't gotten to this point of the off season yet, so I haven't really done a deep dive into exactly. what they need, but yeah, right, we're right. But Patriots, this is tricky. This is way more tricky than I thought it was going to be for the Patriots here
Starting point is 02:09:46 at the back end of these rounds. So, all right, take us home. Seattle, 64. All right, so Seattle at 64, to kind of go down the road you were just talking about, this is a team that I think I do like Caleb Tiernan for. I want to look at the interior offensive line and tackles, because I know he's listed as a tackle for us, but I don't think he's a tackle at the next level.
Starting point is 02:10:05 Yeah, this is somebody to me that can, you know, they got Grace able to play left guard. and he could be your future right guard here for Tiernan, who over summer I thought was a really pro-ready, calming presence on the offensive line that with the lack of arm length, they'll be safer at guard at the next level. So Seattle went, I want to see who do,
Starting point is 02:10:24 I know I made their, I had a corner to go to them, Colton Hood. So Colton Hood, Caleb Tiernan, you know, I see some people in the chat shouting out, Edge, it's definitely a possibility, although this board didn't break great for an edge group. I feel like Derek Moore would have kind of been there, but I just took him off the board.
Starting point is 02:10:40 That's exactly right. And then maybe Jonathan Joseph, if they liked that. Maybe Jonathan Joseph. If Mike McDonald, who's just a mad scientist, thinks there's a package for Romello height to play in, then that's possible too because they do rotate so many of their fronts, their players in their fronts. But I'm going to stick with the pick and go with Tiernan. Okay.
Starting point is 02:10:57 All right. Tiernan. There we go, folks. 64 up, 64 down. The two round mock draft here, post senior bowl edition, one of our favorite traditions around here on the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. We would love to hear from you guys as we heard from the chat. The entire show, we would love to hear from you guys.
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