NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 2025 Draft Grades For All 32 Teams

Episode Date: April 29, 2025

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you their individual draft grades for all 32 teams after the 2025 NFL Draft. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast presented by Arena, the all in one sports is super apt combines DFS sports news and a social media element as well. You can download it right now on the app store Arena sports. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers. I join you guys for the annual draft grade episode after the 2025 NFL draft. Connor, I know it's been a long weekend for you, my friend. How are things? How are you feeling? Have you caught up on sleep now? How are you? No, I feel good. Not even like a yeah, man. I feel great. But no, I haven't really slept much.
Starting point is 00:00:45 We'll get there eventually. Ah, and I know it was the same for you, which it's so much fun, draft weekend. It's funny, after every show, people are like, oh, how do you do it? How are you still alive? And you just feed off of adrenaline. It's what you've been waiting for all year.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yes. Then you wake up, I don't know about you, Sunday morning for me is like the first hangover movie where they all wake up and nobody, like you just, you're frozen in time. And there's a tiger in your bathroom? Basically. And you gotta go to Mike Tyson's house?
Starting point is 00:01:16 Pretty much, you're trying to retrace your steps. I'm not like somebody that sleeps in anymore at this stage in my life and that is the one time where my body could just just go. I could just and I know you do the recap show on Sunday. I don't have anything until the Jets show, which is an evening show in the city on Sunday night. So Sunday morning is the one time I could sleep a little bit.
Starting point is 00:01:35 But feeling good. Really, really fun week. Thanks to everybody that was rocking with us late Thursday night. Or if you got to watch the PFF shows with Trevor, the NBC and Bleacher Report content that I got to do as well. We really appreciate that. How are you? How are you? Are we live and well? You look spry. No, we're good. You got your first goal in a thousand games for the Colorado Atlantis. This is true. Yeah, and you know what sucks is I bet on Landisgog to be the first goal scorer of that game he happened to score but it wasn't the first one so that's second right? I was the third one.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Okay, but it was it was their first home game since he had been back and I was like, you know what since everybody said that He looked like me. It's his first game back. It's a feel-good story the universe is here first goal score But I got greedy. I should have gone with any time goals. Did you see the crowd after the goal? People were making out chugging beers It was nuts, I'm serious. Like, I was like, wow. Like, that is really a city that is behind the return of Gabriel Landiscock. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Look, you know, it's a team that can win a cup. Anytime that's the case, the vibes are always high. Yeah, it couldn't be me. Don't know what that's like. Honorable brother, yeah, stop. I got a flight tonight and the lightning play while I'm on the flight so Hopefully air marshal doesn't you know lock me in the bathroom because I'm just being
Starting point is 00:02:56 pissy about how the lighting you're doing if they're losing but we'll see if I survived it next NFLSE episode like Connor said Thank you guys so much for taking in all of our content whether it was like I said the live shows at PFF for Connor stuff with NBC or Bleacher report or even like the NFL SE stuff Everybody who joined us after the midnight hour. We said we were gonna go live at midnight. It was once again 1 a.m. Of course, never fails Y'all are the best for that that was so much fun getting a rock with you guys and and recap that night one of the NFL Draft, but this is another yearly tradition that we love. It's a draft grades episode We're gonna talk about every single player not super detail every single player But we're gonna talk about every single draft hall for super detailed every single player, but we're gonna talk about every single draft hall
Starting point is 00:03:27 for all of these teams and we're gonna give you our individual draft grades. I've got a draft grade, Connor's got a draft grade, we're gonna give you as much context as possible. And if you're watching this one on YouTube, this one's gonna have some extra information for you. It's gonna have not only where players were picked, but also where they were on Connor and I's big boards to give you a little bit of extra context as we talk about good or bad grades. The way that I had this sheet ordered is alphabetically, but by team.
Starting point is 00:03:53 So normally we don't get that. We're not doing it by division. Keep everyone on their toes. Maybe mainly because they didn't categorize it right. And we're starting off with kind of a doozy here. We had the San Francisco 49ers up first here alphabetically You know the number four because it's a number. I know I know I know we got to do it You know I don't we got to get out of the way I love this show because one it is obviously maybe the most viewed show of the year and
Starting point is 00:04:17 Some people really do love you after the show I hate this show because some people really really do hate you after the show, but I mean that's the nature of the job If you want to write in the comments like screw you I'll never watch again. We're built for it. It's okay It's just funny that yeah, we're starting with the Niners. All right. All right, so the 49ers I'll recap every draft really quick Mike L Williams in the first round Alfred Collins in the second Nick Martin in the third up Then stout in the third CJ West in the fourth Jordan walk-ins in the fourth as well Jordan James In the fifth market Siegel in the fifth and then Curtis Rourke Connor Colby Junior Bergen and in the seventh there to round things out
Starting point is 00:04:55 Connor I gave this draft to D minus whoa buddy This is this is my lowest this is this is my lowest graded draft of any team. I promise you hurt I promise you I didn't do this on purpose You're hungry for nothing I can't get over it. Well done. Yeah D minus man. I look Mikel Williams is overdrafted versus where he was on my board by 27 spots right I thought the Alfred Collins pick was excellent.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I love Alfred Collins. Yeah. Nick Martin and Upton Stout were overdrafted by about 100 spots each. Nick Martin was overdrafted by 200 spots for me. CJ West, I love, but Jordan Watkins, I don't love. Again, like another guy who was overdrafted there. This is also a team that, even beyond them betting on way outliers, really high picks when I felt like that was totally unnecessary in Nick Martin and Upton Stout.
Starting point is 00:05:57 They didn't draft a single offensive lineman until the seventh round. And you draft Jordan James in the fifth, and I think that Jordan James is actually one of their fine draft picks. Same. But you could have drafted some sort of offensive lineman that was available there in the fifth So they didn't address the offensive line at all major bets at outliers way higher than I thought they should have gone in the draft and Then to the very top Mike L Williams. I think he's a fine player. I think he's a solid player He makes them better run defense, but at number 11 overall over other players that were on my board,
Starting point is 00:06:25 I think that was a little bit of a reach even to start this draft. So this is my lowest graded draft here with the D minus for the San Francisco 49ers. Yeah, they were a C minus for me. And I think we see it exactly the same. Like maybe I'm just being a softy here. I think we see it exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm going by my grades that I wrote up and published already for m Sports.com and they were they were tied for my lowest grade. It's just that you pretty much covered it. Mikell, I was lower on them where they took them. There was better pass rushers available and this is a place where he should develop because of the coaches they have that develop pass rushers. But it's the 11th overall pick in the draft and far from the most egregious they made,
Starting point is 00:07:05 I wanna make that clear. We eye to eye on Alfred Collins. This is right around where Alfred Collins should go. It's like the Niners went to the draft and said, we will never embarrass ourselves with our run defense ever again. And then they lost sight of everything else, almost. They gave Bob Sollow the keys,
Starting point is 00:07:22 as Dalton Washington was saying all weekend. That's a scary place to be sometimes. You know what I'm hung up on on the Nick Martin pick is, I had him 220 on the big board. They took him 75th. And the thing where I'm hung up on is Sala, his best track record in the NFL is linebackers. I mean, the Jets claimed Quincy Williams off waivers and he became an All-Pro. He was part of Jacksonville, I think, when they took Miles Jack, who started out, his career started out well.
Starting point is 00:07:50 You know, obviously Fred Warner is a big one to name. He has a good track record with linebackers. I will still be surprised if this one lives up to the draft slot compared to where they took him. Yeah, it was, he was a reach. Stout was a reach. Watkins was a reach. There was a ton of better receivers on the board in round four where they took Watkins. I like Jordan James. I like C.J. West.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And even the bigger picture is it's not just always about the players. I don't know how I was looking at it like they're going to take a pass or a short 11 and then they'll get developmental offensive lineman after that, like they did with Dominic Pune. And it'll it'll probably work because they have the coaching and infrastructure to do it. Right. And they just didn't. Like Conor Colby in the seventh round is not the solution to their problems on the offensive line where I'm a little worried about Brock Purdy now going into the season, you know, and then Junior Bergen at the end of the seventh was taking a returner, one of
Starting point is 00:08:41 the best returners, obviously at the FCS level. So I'm with you, Trevor. They had a lot of assets and a lot of opportunities to hit every single need and get really good players at every single need. And it felt like they reached and tried to overcorrect in just one area over and over again. Yeah, there's just no doubt about it. They're going to be better in run defense, but that doesn't make the bets they made and when they made them better on how I wish they would have approached the draft. I just, I do not love it. And Nick Martin and up then stout, I mean feisty football players, man, but both of those guys below 10th percentile, if not below the fifth percentile in height, weight and length,
Starting point is 00:09:18 you just took two guys in the third round who their build does not really exist in the league. So unless you think these guys are the outliers of all outliers, some of the best outliers that we're going to find in the class and clearly they do, they drafted them there, but yeah, just all over the place. It's the value, right? Like you took two massive outliers with two top 100 picks. Yep. You didn't take them in the fourth, fifth, sixth. Right. Those are picks that get to play football for you. I have to think that they could have picked both of those guys in the fourth, if not maybe even the fifth round with some.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I thought the fifth or sixth round for each of them. And the Niners, unfortunately, while they do a lot of good things at times, there's a lot of draft history with them lighting picks on fire in the middle rounds. And I thought they lit too many picks on fire. Well, if you thought we were gonna be soft on our draft grades, obviously, you know that that's not the middle rounds. And I thought they lit too many picks on fire. Well, if you thought we were gonna be soft on our draft grades,
Starting point is 00:10:07 obviously you know that that's not the case now. We came out and set the tone, but I promise we'll be a little bit more hopeful as your friendly neighborhood hope dealers here for most of these. Yeah. Handing out hope him on the street. Dishing out that hot fresh opium.
Starting point is 00:10:22 The Chicago Bears are next. Coles and Loveland in the first round round Luther Burden in the second my lord Odger Trappillo in the second Shemar Stewart in the second as well. Oh So yeah, three second round picks Ruben Hippolyte the linebacker from Maryland in the fourth Zoff Frazier in the fifth Luke Newman in the sixth and then your boy Kyle Menon guy. Oh, they won the draft in the seventh round. In the seventh round there. Connor, I gave them an A minus.
Starting point is 00:10:48 What did you give the Bears? Nice, B plus. Yep. Yeah, I looked at this draft and they just understood exactly what they wanted on offense. The most fascinating pick to me might be, I loved the reps I saw from Shemar Turner on the edge in 2023.
Starting point is 00:11:06 They played him a lot more inside this year. Dennis Allen loves those big ends. Yeah, I wonder if they have a plan for Shamar Turner that plays to his strengths, where I thought the 23 tape was better, where I was really excited about Shamar Turner at 62. I had him at 64. So it's right where I thought he'd go. But I'm like, this is a landing spot that might really, really pop off of them. I know you were really high on burden.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I'll have you talk about him. Loveland. It's so easy to kind of envision him in the scheme from a movement route skills and locking on the move kind of skills. Zay Frazier is just loaded up with traits and tools to develop as a third string, second string kind of corner. Manunga I had at 110, they took him at 233. I think he's going to be the David Montgomery of this offense in a year or so at 110, they took him at 233. I think he's gonna be the David Montgomery
Starting point is 00:11:46 of this offense in a year or so. I really believe in the kid that much. So I liked just about everything the Bears did. I thought Hippolyte was just a workout star. He ran one of the most insane 40s for a 236 pound linebacker, you'll see. Him and Zoff Frazier were just like athletic bets, like one right after the other. RAS gods.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yes. Now I think with Frazier, he's somebody that, I see the tools translate to the field, where Hippolyte, that's still a work in progress, but this was a, and Luke Newman was an RAS god as well, a really athletic guard. This was a strong draft for the Bears. And Turner's the one I'm probably most excited to see
Starting point is 00:12:24 because of the plan. Ben Lindsay, who has worked the PFF a long time and he's been doing some betting stuff for us he took a long shot bet and said for Shamar Stewart to be the Bears pick at number 10 just because he was an RAS god relative athletic score by the way is what that stands for it basically means you know how athletic you are at a bigger size means even more. So like weight adjusted athleticism. And so that means a lot. And he used a Shemar Stewart as a long shot bet at number 10 because he said that research
Starting point is 00:12:56 has shown since 2019, no general manager has drafted more towards our as athletes than Ryan Poles. And so it makes sense that through these first four picks that they had, they went true best general manager has drafted more towards RAS athletes than Ryan Poles. And so it makes sense that through these first four picks that they had, they went true best player available didn't matter we were picking them. And they feel like they have done the work on their roster to where they have that luxury to be able to do that. And it's been cool. I think that burden forms. One of the best wide receiver trios in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I mean, the potential of this group along with Colson, love and and Coleomet is just unbelievable. You tie in what they did along the interior offensive line, and even drafting Ozzie Trappello. And it's basically like, man, Caleb Williams ain't no excuses whether or not he's an NFL quarterback. None. We will figure it out. I don't want to say, I don't want to say like week one of this year, but- Preseason. Caleb, what?
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. You better light it up, pal. One in completion and he's a bum. One in completion. No, if you're a fan, you dream of this. If you're a general manager, you dream of this. Putting your quarterback in a situation where you can fully confidently say that our franchise quarterback that we drafted number one overall has no excuse to prove whether or not he is a number
Starting point is 00:14:10 one overall type of a quarterback and that is that's what the Chicago Bears have done here. The Ozzy Trappillo pick interesting the reason why I gave this like an A minus instead of a straight A Ozzy Trappillo I really like as a player doesn't exactly lean into like that zone blocking scheme that I felt like they were doing with the additions they made along the interior offensive line. He's more of a between the tackles type of a type of a blocker, but I still think he's a good player. And then also just not taking a running back until the seventh round. I feel like they could have taken one a little bit earlier, but they probably believe that they can get running back elsewhere as well. The Cincinnati Bengals are next.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Shamar Stewart. This is where Shamar Stewart ended up going at number 17 overall. Demetrius Knight in the second round. Dylan Fairchild in the third. Barrett Carter in the fourth. Jalen Rivers in the fifth. And then Taj Brooks in the sixth. A little bit of a shorter class here, Connor. I gave the Cincinnati Bengals a B- in this draft. What did you give them? I gave them a B. Rock solid. You know, when you look at this draft. What did you give them? I gave them a B. Rock solid. You know, when you look at this draft, not a ton of flash. And I think that's more so what the Bengals kind of needed.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Of course, Shamar, because of his athleticism. But I was a little surprised they didn't come out of this draft with a big defensive tackle from this class for the middle of their defense. But man, they did a lot of good things. Obviously, Shamar's size and speed. If they could figure out the contract situation with Trey Hendrickson, Shamar's disruption ability is going to feed a lot of sacks to Trey's finishing ability.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You look at Demetrius Knight, a true middle linebacker with instincts where Barrett Carter is kind of that weak side linebacker with speed, special teams, maybe even more of a sub package kind of linebacker. And then I like the two swings on the offensive line. I think Fairchild has more upside than Rivers, but I think Rivers is a more complete player right now that could be your best. Their tackles are hurt a lot, and they like these big, powerful knockback tackles. That's what Jalen Rivers was at Miami. They got him at 153. I had him at 86. So that was the value pick of the draft for them. I was a fan of this player.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I thought the Bengals with limited capital did just a solid job all around. Yeah, looking at your rankings versus where they pick these guys. I mean, you've got a handful of value picks for a lot of them. Knight and Fairchild pretty much where you had them. Knight a little reach. Yeah, Knight's a little bit higher. You're right. I was a little bit higher on Knight. I'm seeing my ranking for him there now.
Starting point is 00:16:26 But Stewart, you had him ranked 17, he goes 17th overall. Carter Rivers, you mentioned, them getting some good value there. Yeah, right there. I'm a little bit lower on Fairchild and just was a little bit lower on Stewart overall. I can certainly see it working. That's why I'm not gonna be too harsh on this draft.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I think it is a solid draft. I like Demetrius Knight. I like that bet there. The biggest surprise for me in this draft is that new defensive coordinator Al Golden didn't get a single Notre Dame player. He didn't pick, you know, a Ben Morrison. I don't, not that I think they were going to pick Ben Morrison, but like Ben Morrison, Kaiser, Riley Mills, Jack Kaiser, Xavier Watts. Like I thought he'd get somebody along there. I saw that they signed Howard Cross as an undrafted free agent, which
Starting point is 00:17:05 by the way, if you guys want to shout out some of your team's undrafted free agents, do so in the comments. If you say like, Hey, you could add this guy to the draft hall. Obviously we're just doing draft grades, but if there's some notable undrafted free agents fired off in the chat and, or in the comments section, and we'll be able to read and go back and forth on some undrafted free agents that were drafted as well. So I do. I think it was a solid draft. You're hoping that Shamar Stewart is going to develop into a much better pass rusher than he was in college, but it's a good bet to make. And I think that this was a fine draft from the Cincinnati Bengals.
Starting point is 00:17:37 The Buffalo Bills are the next team here. Maxwell Hairston in the first round, TJ Sanders, AKA Bull Rush McIntyre didn't even need to change the name The NFL still drafted him top 50 anyways I think it is funny that I had him 54th you had him 68th NFL actually drafts him 41st I were like were the only people that like him Yeah, and he had to felt like some more and they traded up for him. Oh You just what a feel-good story that was for the addicts in the NFL SC family Go Atlanta Jackson in the third Dion Walker in the fourth Jordan Hancock in the fifth Jackson Hawes in the fifth
Starting point is 00:18:12 Dorian strong in the six chase Lunt in the six and then Caden Prather in the seven for the Buffalo Bills I gave them a solid B and I think that they got a B because I Would have preferred Benjamin Morrison, Trey Amos, Will Johnson, who were still on the board when they picked Maxwell Harrison. Obviously, this is the guy that they wanted instead, but I would have preferred those guys. I think the rest of them are really solid players, really help out the team. Deion Walker, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:18:44 It's fine. If he would have been picked in the second or Dion Walker, it's fine. Like it's fine. If he would have been picked in the second or third rounds, I would have really disliked it. Fourth round is fine. It's not my favorite, but it's fine overall though. I think the Bills got a lot of really talented players and some names that we have said a lot on this show over the last year.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So I gave him a B, what'd you have him? I gave him a C plus. Now it's heavily weighted because of the first round pick, because after that they took guys either right around where I had them or got a little value. And it was needs like I really like TJ Sanders in this front. I wish they got a little bit more of a run plugger after Sanders. I don't think Dion Walker is that I didn't think he was very good
Starting point is 00:19:24 against the run this year because of his lack of leverage. So that was my one criticism that they still to me need a two gapping run stuffer in this front, but Sanders is gonna be a, you know, pass rush presence. Obviously I like that pick a lot. I had Landon Jackson 74th, they got him 72nd. He's a bigger, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I was just gonna say, I think that Landon Jackson is basically like a better version of what they wanted AJ Appanace to be. That's what I thought of right away. He could rush more. Haws, blocking tight end. Beef. Yep, beef.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Dorian Strong was a nice pick in round six. I think he's a good cover player. I just, I can't sit here and give the Bills a great grade when Hairston was my 10th ranked corner. And that's the hard part for me. I had him 84th, they took him 30th. Hey, they really liked the player. Maybe he's gonna do some great things for them.
Starting point is 00:20:15 There was corners in this class that I liked better. I've been very honest about that. I typically do not like corners that are that slender. I think the NFL is a very, very physical league on the outside and maybe he can be an outlier in that regard because of his ball skills and speed. But they did a lot of good things depth wise. Like Chase Lunt is their type of tackle
Starting point is 00:20:33 to be a backup for Spencer Brown. Dorian Strong, I wouldn't be, maybe this is my hottest take I could have. I wouldn't be floored if they got to camp and Strong looks close to Maxwell Hairston. Sure, I didn't ever rank the same, but he doesn't look out of his league entirely. But yeah, for the Bills, I gave him a C+.
Starting point is 00:20:54 It was a depth draft for me. Besides Bull Rush, he was gonna be a disruptor for them out of the gate. I liked their outside of Hairston, who it was fine. He was picked a little bit earlier. And again, there were other players that I wish they would have picked there that I had ranked higher at the cornerback position. But like the depth guys, I like Jordan Hancock and Dorian Strong, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I think the Hancock fits their hybrid like slot safety role. I thought he was a safety that had just had to play corner. Yeah. And I think I think that he does his best work in the slot. Right. But that's also where he's played the most. So maybe they'll play him a little bit better in safety sets. When you look at the safety grades,
Starting point is 00:21:30 I think the Buffalo Bills were bottom five in the NFL in total coverage grade from their safety unit last year. So it needed to be better overall. And I liked adding those guys. And then Kaden Prather, there were times when, I like Kaden Prather better than Ty Felton, honestly. Dude, 2023, it wasn't close. I don't know what happened this year.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I think this is, I think that's it. I think Bill's fans might say like, oh man, didn't address wide receiver to the seventh. So good wide receiver to get in the seventh. Not gonna lie. Denver Broncos next team here. Joddy Baron in the first round, RJ Harvey in the second. Let's go baby, let's go.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Pat Ryan in the third, Savion Jones in the third as well. Quay Robinson in the second. Let's go baby, let's go. Pat Bryant in the third, Savion Jones in the third as well, Quay Robinson in the fourth, Jeremy Croshaw in the sixth, and Caleb Loner in the seventh. Was he their last pick? I thought they had one more. That's all I had.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Oh, is that it? Did you say Croshaw? Yeah, okay, so Loner was the last one. For some reason I'm thinking they had another one. Okay, Denver Broncos, what did I give them? I give them a B plus as a draft grade. What'd you give them, Connor? A B minus. Okay, all right, talk about it. I'm sure what swung that is you've been pretty high on Harvey for a long time.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Damn right, baby! And Sean Payton and you are currently arm in arm right now saying yes. John A. Barron, Bo Nix, Nix, RJ Harvey, Audrick Estime, we're out here, baby. Yeah, you were, I mean, seriously. Me and you are freelance scouting for the Denver Broncos organization. I was in the Texans control room, war room,
Starting point is 00:22:55 and you were in the Broncos war room. We were just pressing all of the buttons all night. Baron, this was just a perfect fit on a loaded defense, loaded, loaded defense. And this was the range I liked Baron, this was just a perfect fit on a loaded defense, loaded, loaded defense. And this was the range I liked Baron. I had him 22nd. It took him 20th. He's just going to be able to handle so many different roles for them and not just have to be an outside corner. This is a good offense for Harvey because they'll know how to get him in space.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Pat Bryant is not going to run away from a lot of people, but he catches everything and blocks. Savion Jones might be my favorite pick. He's just a jumbo sized edge that I mean, of course, Jaday Barron, in my opinion, is the best pick, but he's the first rounder. Savion Jones is this jumbo size edge that plays with these big heavy hands, crashes hard against the run, 120 miles per hour every single snap. That's and then you go the opposite with Robinson, who's a developmental edge who hasn't played a lot of football. But man, some of the flashes that he got shows kind of freaky, slender, undersized pass rusher. You know, they take a basketball project and Caleb Loner for catches this year for touchdowns and Jeremy Crawshaw.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Obviously, they wanted to get a big leg at punter in round six. So a B minus for the Broncos. It was just, you know, once again, another rock solid kind of draft, but nothing too splashy, in my opinion. Yeah, obviously, I'm going to be a little bit higher on them just because R.J. Harvey pulls them up. And so does Jaday Baron as well. My 11th ranked overall player, you're getting a number 20.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I just think that that's phenomenal value there. I think one of the best defenses in the NFL only got better this past weekend. I think and the reason why I love this draft a lot is because Jaday Barron's scheme fit, RJ Harvey's scheme fit, Savion Jones, Quay Robinson, both of those guys scheme fits, Jeremy Crosshaw, okay, punter, fine. And then Caleb Loner, look, Sean Payne, I'm not saying the guy's the next Jimmy Graham. But he's the next Jimmy Graham.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Actually, it's fine, just make the graphic, whatever. But this is the coach that you would want to have somebody who is built like this with this kind of background. Because he's had success with not just Jimmy Graham, but all sorts of tight ends. So I love all of that. The only reason this isn't an A draft for me is because of Pat Bryan.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And I'm not going to be too hard on it, because I think Pat Bryan's a really good football player. But Ellic I.O. Maynard, in my opinion, is better in basically every way. I understand that I.O. May a inner wasn't as strong at the catch point as you want him to be this past season. But I think he certainly can be and that's the area where Pat Bryant is great as well. But like the blocking all of that like I am a inner does that at a higher level than Pat
Starting point is 00:25:19 Bryant does. And so that's why it's just a little bit lower for me. But it is still if you're into Pat Bryant if you like Pat Bryant it's just a little bit lower for me. But it is still, if you're into Pat Bryant, if you like Pat Bryant, it's obviously a really good draft that the Denver Broncos had there. Cleveland Browns, here we go. In the first round, they drafted Mason Graham while trading away from number two, passing on Travis Hunter, but drafting Mason Graham at number five. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Carson Swessinger in the second, Queen Shia Juggins in the second, which by the way, just wanna say this, I'm not butthurt or anything, but I had a bet at plus 7,500 for Quinshaw and Juggins to go 33 to the Cleveland Browns because they had done a formal interview with them and I knew they'd be in on him because it's, it's, it's local area dude from Ohio State. I knew that they actually liked this dude and I put money on it and if I would have hit, I would have won $1,500. You could bet exact slot.
Starting point is 00:26:13 So at FanDuel they had this as like only a couple, like only for 33 and 34 once round one was done before round two started. So they just did like the first couple. And at 33 it was the Browns. The problem was that they also picked at 36. And you know when they took Quinchon Juggins, not at 33, they took him at 36. I would be irate. And if Quinchon Juggins would have gone at 33,
Starting point is 00:26:37 I would have won 1500 bucks. I'd be irate, genuinely. Cause you did everything the right way. The process, you know what? We just gotta have faith in the process. We'll be there next time. They got Harold Fanon in the third, also you did everything the right way. The process, you know what, we just got to have faith in the process, we'll be there next time. They got Harold Fanon in the third, also Dylan Gabriel in the third, Dylan Sampson in the fourth, and then Chider Sanders, of course, at 144 in the fifth.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I gave this draft a C-, Connor, what did you give them? I gave it a B. Okay, let's hear about it. Let me be totally honest, there is no more roller coaster tycoon draft in this one. Like you're just throwing your hands up and screaming and then breathing again, throwing your hands up and screaming and breathing again. It's a remember roller coaster tycoon when people would get off their roller coaster and then puke and then you have to clean it. You have to hire people to clean it up.
Starting point is 00:27:21 I mean, really sickening concepts. It's the Cleveland Browns experience. It kind of was trading out of the pick where Travis Hunter could be had. I mean, really sickening concept for a game. It's the Cleveland Rounds experience, it feels like. It kind of was. Trading out of the pick where Travis Hunter could be had is a choice, but they got legitimate assets back, and I'm a big fan of Mason Graham. He was my fifth overall player.
Starting point is 00:27:38 They got him at the fifth overall pick. I think he's gonna be really good in Cleveland on this line. I didn't hate the tradeout. I did not like the second round pick of Swessinger. He's on the ground all the time. He gets demolished by climbers. Yes, he's a good athlete, but,
Starting point is 00:27:54 and good thing you got Mason Graham in front of him now, because you better clear out a lot of space for him to run around and make plays, or else he's going to have a tough time. I love Quinn Sean Judkins. I thought he was RB3 in this draft, and I think he's going to be a superstar in Stefanski's scheme. I was lower on Harold Fanon. I think you need to have a very unique plan for him. I don't think he's a traditional tight end.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Dylan Gabriel in the third round, exactly a hundred spots higher than I had him. Dylan Sampson, good value as your change of pace guy in his own heavy scheme and say what you want about all the Shador nonsense and we're not gonna do that on this show. You can watch Mel Kuyper's 45,000 clips from draft week if you need to. He's probably still somewhere in his kitchen right now talking about it to his wife, whoever it is.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Shador Sanders to me was incredible value where they got him. We'll see how it all plays out. I didn't think Shador would go in the first round. I expect him kind of the top of the second. I thought somebody would have to trade back into the first round if he was gonna get taken and the Giants went with Dart instead.
Starting point is 00:28:54 They got Chidor Sanders in the fifth round. As crazy as that whole thing is, let's just evaluate the player that is really, really good value for a fifth round pick. So it was just up and down the entire draft for me with the Browns and it landed in the middle point at a B. You know, even beyond sliding the Browns for not taking quinch on Juggins at 33 where they should have.
Starting point is 00:29:18 This draft was all over the place for me. I puke clean up. The Mason Graham pick, I'm not too harsh on because you got an extra first round pick and you acquired Mason Graham to your football team. Yeah, that's good business. I think Travis Hunter is a generational football player. That's fair. And that's hard for me to say like, okay, I like Mason Graham.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I think Mason Graham could be great and you got an extra first round pick. And very clearly, you are not in on this quarterback class. You're loading up future first round picks to do what you want to do next year at quarterback. Very clearly that was the case. So I can understand the plan. I just don't love passing up on the generational football player that was Travis Hunter here.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So I take that into account. I thought Swessinger was overdrafted. Quintchia Juggins whogins, who is, it's fine. That one is totally fine. It was overdrafted versus my board, but it was fine. If he was drafted three spots higher, again, it would have been better. Harold Fannin was overdrafted, Dylan Gabriel was overdrafted, Dylan Sampson I thought was excellent.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I actually think it's- Great value. Sampson and Quinshaw-Juggins, what a one-two combination. In this game? Beautiful. In this game? Beautiful. In this economy? Yeah. Phenomenal. I think these guys are gonna be awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Shador, I don't really know how to give them credit for this because- It's okay, that's really fair. You know what I'm saying? Because- Yes. If I was gonna give them credit for drafting Shador Sanders, I would have given them credit for drafting him at 94.
Starting point is 00:30:43 And they drafted Dylan Gabriel at 94. And 50 picks later, they drafted Shador Sanders, I would have given them credit for drafting him at 94. And they drafted Dylan Gabriel at 94. And 50 picks later, they drafted Shadur Sanders, which to me, I don't have any inside information on this. And I'm not trying to look too far into that look in video where they're all clapping and they look pissed off and depressed afterwards. But I think this was a somebody up top called and said, you better draft Chidur Sanders and they drafted Chidur Sanders. Now the funny part about this is he's probably QB2 to start the season.
Starting point is 00:31:11 They probably start Flacco and Chidur is probably QB2 and maybe he's QB1 before the year ends. But it's weird for me to give the Browns too much credit on how all these names came up. So I'm a little harsher on them and I give them a C-. for me to give the Browns too much credit on how all these names came up. So I'm a little harsher on them and I give them a C-. I think your process is extremely fair. It kind of makes your front office, everyone in your front office look like an ass if you get to camp and Chidor is just wiping the floor with Dillon Gabriel, right? If they never planned to take Shador
Starting point is 00:31:45 and it really was a move from the top. Cause if you, cause if you want to tell me, well, they don't have a quarterback and they need to take swings as a quarterback, I agree. But also their offensive line is going to be either retired or gone entirely basically in two years. And you didn't draft it. Anybody, you didn't draft anybody along the offensive line.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I don't know, man. Yeah. It just did kind of all over the place for me, but that's the thoughts on the Browns. The Buccaneers. What a class this was. Oh, man. And that kickbook in the first Ben Morrison in the second Jacob Parrish in the third David Walker in the fourth Elijah Roberts in the fifth and Tez Johnson in the seventh. I gave the type of a Buccaneers a B plus. That was that was my grade for them. What did you give them? I give them an A. OK. All right. They were they were my they were my best grade.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yeah. And I have a few A minuses. So it's like this big pool. But whoa. All right. I loved this draft. I just think that Jason Light understands how to supplement a roster all three days of the draft where teams kind of get hot and cold. Ameca Abouka, they just took a really good football player. Right?
Starting point is 00:32:49 And it feels like they kind of had the self-awareness like, hey, our wide receiver core we love, but they're going to get old and they're going to get hurt. And we feel it's really important to have three to four capable wide receivers on this roster at all times. And you get a back, a Mecca Ibuka at 19 is a good deal of business. The A will look right or wrong based on how Benjamin Morrison comes back from hip surgery.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I am completely honest about that. Like if he doesn't bounce back to the 2023 self and this isn't an A, that's the risk they were willing to take. I like the risk. Jacob Parrish was one of my guys in this draft. I had him in the top 60. They got him at 84. I wrote in my write-up,
Starting point is 00:33:26 Todd Bulls when he got to New York, the Jets signed Buster Screen, and Screens career didn't end great with the Jets, but that first year they had him, he was unbelievable as a smaller corner, built exactly like Parrish with speed and ball skills. I think that's what he saw in Parrish. David Walker, I think it's gonna work from the FCS.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I think he's gonna be able to get after the quarterback at the next level. Elijah Roberts was good value as well. Another guy that just knows how to get after the quarterback. I really liked this draft. I think they attacked areas that they needed to get better at. And I think this roster looks really, really good
Starting point is 00:33:56 for them to win this division. This honestly could have been an A-minus for me. It might be a B-plus just because it was not what I thought that they would do at all whatsoever. And the shock value just might be a B plus just because it was not what I thought that they would do at all whatsoever. And the shock value just might be there and I'm kind of putting that into my overall grades for them. I think Emeka Ibuka is a hell of a football player. He gets drafted 19.
Starting point is 00:34:13 He was ranked 19th on my board. I mean, I think that he is phenomenal. I just think that it's a crowded wide receiver room now in a place where you were already, I feel like deep enough. And maybe they don't fully trust Chris Godwin coming back from that injury. But if that's the case, you gave him a lot of money. It's a little bit weird to me that they went this direction. I love Benjamin Morrison.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I think that's an excellent pick. I love the Jacob Parrish pick because now it allows them to play Tyke Smith at safety, which they talked about they wanted to do. Morrison gives them the flexibility to move on from Jamel Dean if they want or keep him and have a good cornerback room this upcoming year. Then maybe this is Jamel Dean's last year in Tampa, you can continue to build out corner. David Walker I think fits well now that they have Hassan Reddick. So now, you know, with him as Hassan Reddick and Yahya Diaby, like that's a decent edge rush group there. Elijah Roberts I I love, is that mix and match interior slash heavy handed edge
Starting point is 00:35:07 player, I think that's excellent. Tez Johnson's just a separation goat. I don't know if he's gonna make the team, but we'll see. I mean, he had fantastic numbers and great film this past year doing it, but they didn't address linebacker, which is okay. Jahad Campbell's shoulder must have really scared them. been something for them. Because for them to pass up on both Jahad Campbell
Starting point is 00:35:31 and honestly Donovan Azaraku for Emekig Bukit number 19 was just very surprising to me. And if Campbell ends up being just an absolute stud for the Philadelphia Eagles and that shoulder injury ends up being just like a short term thing. I think there's a chance for some buyer's remorse here. And I think that I'm building that in a little bit. Maybe I'm just being cautious about the direction they went.
Starting point is 00:35:57 But we say that we love for teams to go best player available and certainly the Buccaneers went best player available at number 19 and they didn't look at a guy that they thought was gonna be a risk Health-wise character wise or whatever they got a dude who is an absolute stud there So I actually really like all the players that they drafted. That was it for me I just didn't I just didn't expect it. So I gave him a B. I gave him a B plus Cardinals Walter Nolan in the first Will Johnson in the second Jordan Burch in the third Cody Simon in the fourth Denzel Burke in the fifth Hayden Connor in the sixth and then Ketan Crawford in the second, Jordan Burch in the third, Cody Simon in the fourth, Denzel Burke in the fifth,
Starting point is 00:36:25 Hayden Connor in the sixth, and then Ketan Crawford in the seventh. I gave the Arizona Cardinals a B plus, like a lot of the players that they brought in, they just didn't address offensive line at all, and I thought they would. Connor, what'd you think? I gave them a B plus as well,
Starting point is 00:36:40 and I wrote that this grade is so largely dependent on what happens with Will Johnson because Will Johnson was my 10th ranked player and they got him at 47. So if he's able to get through these health issues that teams were concerned about, I think Will Johnson's a better prospect than Walter Nolan on paper. Now, they did more than just that, though. It's Nolan, I thought was a fringe first rounder, I had him at 33, but I think they have a plan for him
Starting point is 00:37:09 that'll work and more importantly, I think Kaleus Campbell and some of the veterans in that defensive line room are really, really good for Walter Nolan's development because he's very raw still in terms of countering and getting off blocks and being over aggressive at times. I think this is a good spot for him. Jordan Burch gives them just that big,
Starting point is 00:37:28 heavy-handed edge rusher that can kind of play multiple alignments. A little early for Cody Simon for me. Denzel Burke, pretty good, you know, decent value on that one, in my opinion. Depth at corner. And then Crawford, I think with his athleticism, could play special teams for them.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Hayden Connor, right where I had him, he might be able to develop into depth at guard for you. But I'm with you, Trevor, that what separated this from being in the A's was just that I didn't think they addressed the offensive line need the way they needed to, but I love them taking the shot at Will Johnson, because if he hits, that's what we'll remember this draft for.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah, because, let me look here. When did Jared Wilson get drafted? 95th. To New England. Yeah, I mean, they could have drafted a Jared Wilson. Wouldn't Wyatt Milam after that as well, where Jordan Burch was picked. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:21 It's like, Jordan Burch I think was, at that point, a luxury pick. And so again, I, I, I kind of like all the players that they got in there. I just sort of wish that third round pick would have been interior offensive line. And if it would have, you're really impacting that that starting lineup for you. And things are good. Cody Simon. Yeah. He was overdrafted on my board, but I said this on the PFF draft show. Simon's kind of one of the old, the few Sam linebackers in this class.
Starting point is 00:38:45 That's fair. Dudes who can play on the line of scrimmage when you want to go 4-3 base. I think Gannon likes to mix it up and do odd fronts and even front stuff. Simon's at least somebody who could play that. Denzel Burke's good cornerback depth there. And I think Ketan Crawford is a really nice athlete who showcased that. At the very least, I think he's going to be a fast special teamer for you. So I did like this draft.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I just wish they would have gone with interior offensive line there in that third. Yeah, it's a fair point. Good draft though for Arizona for sure. Yes, definitely. We talked about this at the top of the show, but this show is presented by our friends over at Arena. It's the sports super app that is combining DFS,
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Starting point is 00:40:55 on our individual pages we're gonna follow you back because we're bringing the addicts together bringing the addicts together over on the Arena Sports app Chargers next wrap that we're looking at here, Omari and Hampton in the first, Trey Harris in the second, Jamari Caldwell in the third, Kyle Kennard in the fourth, Keandre Lambert-Smith in the fifth, Aranda Gadsden in the second, in the fifth as well, Branson Taylor in the sixth as well as R.J. Mickens in the sixth and then TriQuest Bridges in the seventh. I gave the Los Angeles Chargers an A.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Connor, what did you give them? I gave them a B plus. This was a really good draft in terms of volume. Hampton is just an identity player for them on offense with the physicality he brings on all three downs. Trey Harris, I think, is going to turn into everything they were initially hoping Quinton Johnson would be. That was kind of how...
Starting point is 00:41:44 This is a perfect landing spot for him. It really is with Herbert. He'll be their number two wide receiver in the future. Jamari Caldwell, you lose Pooniford in free agency, you bring in Jamari Caldwell, chef's kiss. Absolutely love that. Another one of my guys in this draft. You lose Stone Smart in free agency,
Starting point is 00:41:58 you get Arande Gadsden in the fifth. He plays that same exact role that Stone Smart played for you. And then my favorite pick in terms of value, because they got 107 positive spots out of it from my board, was R.J. Mickens. I think R.J. Mickens is a starter at the next level. He's smart, he's athletic, he's got good length,
Starting point is 00:42:15 he comes to balance as a tackler, he just does NFL bloodlines, plays the exact right way you want from the safety position, disciplined. I think R.J. Mickens will look back and go, why did that guy go in the sixth round when he gets an extension in three years? Yeah I think that this was an excellent draft. I can't really hold this against them because like I kind of wish they would
Starting point is 00:42:35 have gone defensive line in the first round but that wasn't really an option right? Kenneth Grant, Mason Graham, Walter Nolan, Derek Harmon like all of those guys were gone when they got to that point. So I can't really be too hard on him even though I would have liked to see one of those names there and maybe address running back say in the third I would have liked that to be flipped. Omarion Hampton could be there RB1, he could truly be a guy that you lean on on all three downs. I agree with you completely. This is such a great landing spot for Trey Harris and it's gonna be able to get the most out of what he is, a vertical stretching wide receiver and
Starting point is 00:43:06 a contested catch guy down the sideline. Kyle Kennard, excellent to be able to get that type of a player who racked up as many sacks as he did this past season to play with the Chen and Nwosu and Khalil Mack as well to increase some pass potential. Keandre Lambert-Smith is sort of more of the same with Trey Harris Harris You're just really trying to open up the field vertically So all that is there Gaston's a bet to make as a tall big slot type of a player And then I agree with you man. I think Mickens can be a starter in this league. I really do He is such a solid football player So I think that the Chargers addressed all of the needs that I wanted them to. I think they were able to draft players for value.
Starting point is 00:43:46 And even when he got into day three, I thought their day three bets were really good football players. So love this Chargers draft, gave him an A. The Chiefs, Josh Simmons in the first round, Omar Norman Lott, my boy getting in the second round. Ashton Jilani in the third, Noel Williams as well in the third, Jalen Royles in the fourth, Jeffrey Bassa in the fifth, and Rash gelati in the third noel williams as well in the third jalen royals in the fourth jeffrey bossa in the fifth And brashard smith in the seventh. I gave the kansas city chiefs
Starting point is 00:44:12 An a once again, this is back-to-back a's here for me. What did you give the chiefs connor? I gave them a b because it's just it's the volatility of this grade is just whatever josh simmons health situation is and That's why I had him at 34th and the reason they got him at 32. He has all the makings of a franchise left tackle if he's healthy and continues to get stronger because he's a great athlete with already natural size. Omar Norman Lott, he's pass rush minded,
Starting point is 00:44:43 not a run defender at all. And that's okay here, right? When you look at what they lose in free agency, he's got so much twitch, active hands, he's tough to match his movements. Ash and Jelotti gives you a little bit of a power profile on the edge of that long arm. I know people really like this player.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I didn't like Noel Williams. So I, and people seem to be very high on Noel Williams. Oh, I see where he is. I see where he is on your board now. This makes sense now. I didn't see it with Noel. It's funny. They lost a ton of value from,
Starting point is 00:45:14 and whatever in the third round on Noel Williams. And then they gained it all back with Jalen Royals. Like all of it back with Jalen Royals. Dude, how did Jalen Royals go in the fourth? I don't know. They just think he's slow, right? Yes, but the time speed after, if you went back and looked at this, you're like, no, he had to play slow at times in that offense. He's not in an offense where he's got somebody with a howitzer that could hit him on all levels all the time.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Yeah, because 10 yard split was 93rd percentile, 40 yard dash was 81st percentile. And he's big, like the dents. He has good density. He's not 170 pounds. Yeah, keep going. I'm looking up his in-game athleticism score, because I want to see what that was. I thought Royals was just tremendous value in that spot. Basa, they got him in the round, I thought he should have went. Burchard Smith was good value. That was a 30 spot value for me because of his his pass catching ability out of the backfield which they needed This was like this side of be because it was just a steady yeti draft. They kind of besides no Williams That was the pick I was lowest on but if they I like this spot for Simmons because he doesn't have to be out on
Starting point is 00:46:23 The field day one at left tackle. This is actually a place that you could slow play it. It always made sense for Simmons. And I think that's something that she's really, really excited about because they can wait on his talent and health and feel really, really good about when he's ready. Yeah, this is a big value draft for me. Josh Simmons, good value.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Omar Norman-Lock, great value. Jalen Royals, great value. Noel Williams was sort of appropriate for where I had him. Ashton Jaladi was a little bit early, but I get it. The other part is like scheme fits, man. You mentioned Omar Norman-Law. This is a really good spot for him. I agree, scheme fit there. Ashton Jaladi, this is how they like their edge rushers.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Bill, scheme fit there. Noel Williams, I think is a scheme fit for what Steve Spagnolo likes in his corners. Jeff Bossa, that sort of like safety linebacker, hybrid speeder player. Yeah, that one made a lot of sense. That, that one makes a ton of sense. And then Breschard Smith, man, like Breschard Smith is the receiving back out of the backfield
Starting point is 00:47:14 that this team's missing. So I really do think that they hit a lot of their needs. They hit the needs upfront with their first and second selections. And they just, they, the, the scouting staff and the general manager in Brett Veitch knows Andy Reid and his coaching staff so well. And I think this was a draft where you're just aligning
Starting point is 00:47:31 what these guys do, where they are going to play in Kansas City. And I think a lot of these guys are gonna be good football players for the Kansas City Chiefs. The point you just made was constant with the organizations that nail that. When there's sustainability and structure in the front office that aligns with the organizations that nail that. When there's sustainability and structure
Starting point is 00:47:45 in the front office that aligns with the coaching staff. The Chiefs have that, the Eagles have that, the Ravens have that, the Bucks have that. The Bucks have that, yes. And the Lions have that. Yep, yep. It's no coincidence that I liked all of those drafts. And I think there's teams that are starting to show
Starting point is 00:48:04 that they can get there. When we get to the Raiders, I'll break that down. I was very impressed with them. Like Pete Carroll and John Spytek. That you nailed that, Trevor. Those teams typically get the highest grades because it aligns with what their identity and what they want to do. Indianapolis Colts, Tyler Warren in the first round after all those mocks.
Starting point is 00:48:22 They ended up being right, right there. Tyler Warren dropping to the number 14. I don't know if you noticed this Connor, but it took the Indianapolis Colts exactly two seconds to turn in the draft card. They know, I think the NFL normally tells them like, hey, you know, play it out a little bit. Yeah, go for five minute.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Chris Bowers like, nope, say the name. You know when an NFL coach marches down the sideline and stands behind the ref and it's like, I'm going to tell you when I'm going to call time out. I'm going to tell you when Ballard was behind Roger Goodell and was like, as soon as this comes in at 13, I'm fucking drafting Tyler Warren so fast. You better run to that. You better get that goddamn bike out and fucking pedal out on that stage and say, Tyler Warren right now. God damn bike out and fucking pedal out on that stage and say Tyler Warren right now They were ecstatic to get him it was a cool moment. I gave it a B plus. It was a good draft You're so right. I didn't even name the rest of the players Sorry Warren, they drafted JT2 and below in the second Justin Wally in the third Joe and Travis in the fourth J DJ Giddens in the fifth Ryla Leonard in the sixth Tim Smith in the sixth then Hunter Waller in the fourth, DJ Giddens in the fifth, Rylin in the sixth, Tim Smith in the sixth, then Hunter Waller in the seventh. Would you say you gave him?
Starting point is 00:49:27 A B plus. I gave him a B. I thought I was solid picks all around. I think that Justin Wally was overdrafted a little bit for where I had him on my big board, but I do, I really want to like this corner. Me too. I just, the footwork, the explosiveness, the recognition,
Starting point is 00:49:45 it's all there with Wally. I just need him to get stronger. You just gotta get a little bigger. That's all I need for you. Again, one cycle of metabolic steroids, give it pop for eight games, and then you'll just be an all pro corner right there. That's all you need.
Starting point is 00:49:58 That's all you need. I thought it was a solid draft though. I did for Indianapolis. Yeah, I think they got a little bit of everything. Hunter Waller in the seventh round, I loved that pick. I think they got a little bit of everything. Hunter Waller in the seventh round. I loved that pick. I think he can match up with tight ends and play special teams and he's a hard nose guy at the line of scrimmage. Warren is just an amazing get for them. JT Tui Malo is somebody that just gives you a big edge setting presence up front. I agree with all your
Starting point is 00:50:22 takes on Wally. Jalen Travis, I have a little bit of concerns about being an actual NFL tackle because of the lack of quickness in the in this kick slide. Yeah, but this is also if Ryan Poles wasn't going to be the number one general manager when it comes to drafting for RES, Chris Ballard would be number one because this is just what he does. And Jalen Travis, I think that he he is just honestly Jalen Travis, JT Tui, Malou, I think even DJ Giddens, like all those guys, super high RAS guys.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Giddens is fun in this offense. Obviously they have guys that are capable of running the football already, but Giddens was great. I think he's RB too. Yeah, I think he's RB too. His ability to make people miss is just so the way he could slice and dice. I really like this draft for the Colts. I obviously their season is going to be judged by what one of Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson does, but they have a good football team and the right football coach. Commanders small class here for the Washington commanders, Josh Connelly in the first tray, Amos in the second, Jalen Lane in the fourth,
Starting point is 00:51:22 came Adrano in the sixth and then your boy,, Jacori Kroski-Merritt in the seventh. So they ended up going with Josh Connerly at the very top for the commanders. What did I give them? I gave them a B plus here. Connerly over a trade back, I think was interesting for me because they said that they had options to trade back. They opted to not do that, but I don't necessarily hate it.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Even though I wasn't as high on Connerly as other people were out there, he was still 30th on my board. He gets drafted 29th here. I think that that's fair. Whether they should have traded back or not, I think that's sort of a little bit of a Pandora's box kind of, you just don't know exactly
Starting point is 00:52:00 what would happen after that. You don't know what the ripple effect would be if you would have traded back there because we don't know the exact details that would happen after that. You don't know what the ripple effect would be if you would have traded back there because we don't know the exact trades details that would have been there. But I at least think that Connerly could play at guard while Sam Cosme is recovering from that late season injury and then long term when Cosme is back you can kick him out the right tackle when Andrew, because Andrew Wiley's on the last year of his deal. So I don't hate that. I love Trey Amos in this off in this defense.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I think that he's gonna be absolutely great with Dan Quinn. Jalen Lane, I think he was overdrafted, but they're just trying to make a speed play there for a guy in the fourth round, so I get it. So ultimately, I gave him a B plus here. Yeah, I gave him a B minus with a caveat that when I wrote these up for NBC, I just wanted to evaluate halls.
Starting point is 00:52:47 So I said it was always going to be tough for the commanders to get a big grade because they did the right thing and traded picks for Laramie Tunzel. But I'm not going to, with draft grades, I'm stacking my board where they got them, the players. Here's the grade of this. It doesn't say anything about the team, what they did last draft with future picks or they got this veteran. So when you take into that context, which is very important,
Starting point is 00:53:09 that's this is good work by the commanders to get a B minus with five picks. Yeah, you know, the kind of fan I was a Connerly. I had him 29th. They got him 29. This is the weirdest draft, by the way, Trevor. Listen to this. They took Connerly at 29th. I had him 29th. They took Trey Amos at 61, I had him at 61. It was one of those really weird spot on things.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Were you freelancing for the commander's as well? You didn't tell me? You didn't tell me? The way that organization's going, sign me up. I just wanna see the plan for him. Now, a booster of this class is, guy that maybe could start or we don't know is on the fringe, Jacori Kroski-Merritt.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah. In the seventh round, Bryan Robinson got beat up so much last year. His body was just, every week on the practice report, eh, didn't practice the first two or three days, we'll see if he can play this week, over and over and over again. Austin Eckler had concussions.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Krosky Merritt might be getting carries for this team in October or November, and I wouldn't be shocked. I think he's a he's a physical hard charging runner. He's not going to give you a lot of other things, but he's that kind of runner. So that was my favorite day three pick for them. And Jaylen Lane's pretty explosive. So, yeah, they made the most of what they had. Cowboys, Tyler Booker in the first round, Donovan Ezraku in the second, Siobhan Revelle in the third. Holy cow, man.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Three great football players. Jaden Blue in the fifth, Shamar James in the fifth, Ajani Cornelius in the sixth, Jay Toya in the seventh, Phil Mafa in the seventh, and then Tommy Aking-B besoti in the seventh as well. Your thoughts here on the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:54:47 I gave them an A. I gave the Dallas Cowboys an A for this draft. I gave them a B plus, and I think this is one where as I stare at it more and more, I probably should have been a little bit more kind. It probably should have been in the A minus territory because my big criticism is I really wanted to see them come out of this draft with a receiver and they weren't able to do that. But when you just look at the players like Tyler Booker was
Starting point is 00:55:14 a little early at 12 for a guard, an athletically limited guard. But on day two in the second and third round, they got my 28th ranked player in Donovan Ezraku and my 27th ranked player in Savon Revelle Jr. So that's insane value coming out with a vengeance to get somebody I think can be a pure pass rusher for your defense and a potential number one corner. Jay Toya in the seventh round might have been nice. Your boy. I love your boy. This team needs a clogger up front.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Mazzie Smith has not been able to do it. Jay Toya's one job is get your thick frame out there on the field, drive your legs into the ground, and do not get moved off the line of scrimmage by multiple blockers. And he does it. He's really good at it. Really good at it.
Starting point is 00:56:04 All that freedom for the guys behind him to run around and make plays and Jaden Blue, the pass catching dynamic running back threat, big route tree that this was the right kind of running back to add to this offense. I'm calling Jay Toya the clogger. The clogger just from now on. No, I agree with you. It's a strange draft, but I was saying this on the PFF,
Starting point is 00:56:26 I was saying this on the PFF NFL show when we were doing our live streams. There's a reason why we don't make content that are like draft grades after round one. Cause you shouldn't, straight up. No, look at the cowboys. You have to at least in my opinion, get through rounds one and three to see
Starting point is 00:56:47 draft strategies on the impact players that you are bringing to your team. And even though I thought Tyler Booker was heavily overd a Savon revel at 76. Phenomenal. I agree. And I think that I would have had a way different mood for the Cowboys in the first round and looking at their top three picks, all just difference making football players at the positions that you wanted. Now I give them an a, I could have given them an a minus because they
Starting point is 00:57:23 didn't hit wide receiver, but you know my thoughts on wide receiver. You can get one multiple times every year. They could still trade for George Pickens, right? Yeah. He's out there. In theory. He's on the trade block. I just, whether it's in the summer,
Starting point is 00:57:38 whether it's during the draft, whether it's in free agency or whether it's at the trade deadline, you have opportunities to acquire impact wide receivers all the time. And so I'm not going to be that harsh when you have a wide receiver need, the way the Cowboys do, where you're just sort of trying to complement CD-LAM, and they don't do it. I think that they could do it later, but I agree. Jaden Blue's a great complement to what they have there.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Shamar James is just more depth of the linebacker spot. I love the additions of Ajani Cornelius and Jay Toya there. Shemar James is just more depth of the linebacker spot. I love the additions of Ajani Cornelius and Jay Toya there. A draft here for the Cowboys. Dolphins, Kenneth Carrant in the first round, Jonah Savanaya in the second, Jordan Phillips in the fifth, Jason Marshall Jr. in the fifth, Dante Trader in the fifth, Ollie Gordon in the sixth, Quinn Ewers in the seventh. Imagine saying that to somebody two years ago. Weird, right? That's a weird. That the Dolphins got Ollie Gordon and Queen Ewers
Starting point is 00:58:29 in the sixth and seventh round. They'd slap you and say, get off this mock draft simulator. Like you can't even do that in the mock draft simulator. No, you wouldn't have been able to, no. And then they also got Zeke Biggers in the seventh. I gave the Miami Dolphins a B for this draft. What did you give them?
Starting point is 00:58:45 I gave them a C plus. And it's a little similar to the Niners situation where they went to the draft and said, we got to get tougher as a run defense team. And they did. Kenneth Grant, Jordan Phillips and Zeke Biggers are all run stopping defensive tackles. That's what they are right now. Grant has more upside as a rusher than the other two. That's why he's a first round pick.
Starting point is 00:59:09 And so that's a good thing. The trade up for Sabanaia was a little rich and it's nice to get him, but I think this offensive line still has holes. I do not like this secondary at all on paper and I'm a little surprised that their supplementation to it is Jason Marshall in the fifth and Dante Trader in the fifth. I think Trader actually might push one of Ashton Davis,
Starting point is 00:59:39 you know, or anybody in that safety room, which that safety room right now is is really really thin and we're going to see what happens with Jalen Ramsey. But Trader could obviously push one of Mellifonwoo or Ashton Davis. But it's a really thin safety room. They're thin at corner. The offensive line to me is still a work in progress. I don't know. I didn't I didn't really love this draft.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Besides that, I feel confident the Dolphins are are gonna be really, really good at stopping the run. But that's exactly what I said about the 49ers and I was harsher on them. It's hard for me to be too harsh on the dolphins for their draft because, and maybe I could have gone a little bit lower because I forgot that they traded up for Savanaya and they traded that second and third rounder
Starting point is 01:00:22 and fourth rounder and then they got something kicked back. So I forgot that they had to trade up to do that, but I'm trying not to be overly harsh on the Dolphins because this roster is not very good and there's no way they were going to be able to fix it in one draft. And so when I look at it like that, they attacked the trenches at least, you know? They at least went after the two areas where it's like, okay, you kind of ignored interior defensive line and offensive line the last year, at least the last year, and it came back to bite you last season.
Starting point is 01:00:55 So at least, I don't want to be too harsh because they did address those with guys who I think are starters on both sides of the ball, and I think Jordan Phillips can be a good rotational and run stuffer for you on early downs as well as Zeke Biggers is a good presence on the defensive line too. But you kind of better hope that you don't trade Jalen Ramsey, right? You better hope Jalen Ramsey feels good about being in Miami because if you do trade Jalen Ramsey now all of a sudden I get really worried about the secondary, but at least the offensive line is like, hey, after free agency in the draft, you took Patrick Paul. I'm more worrisome of Patrick Paul, but hey, you drafted him in the second round, so he's gonna get a shot to play. You signed James Daniels, who had a really great season last year before he went down
Starting point is 01:01:39 with injury. You have Aaron Brewer at center, you got Big Jonah now at right guard, and you got Austin Jackson at right tackle. At least that's okay, right? And then you add Kenneth Grant, you add Jordan Phillips to that defensive line, which really needed it. So I gave him a B. I ended up giving him a B, but I can understand wanting to be a little harsher on him because the secondary is not great, but that's where I laid it with the Dolphins. Yeah, to your point, I mean, And that's where I laid it with the Dolphins. Yeah, to your point, I mean, their Jalen Ramsey side of it,
Starting point is 01:02:08 rap sheet has come out and said, you know, they've mutually decided to figure out trade options. So I went into this thinking he will not be on the Dolphins next year. And if he is not on the Dolphins, then obviously it looks bad. But again, you weren't gonna fix it. You couldn't.
Starting point is 01:02:27 There's just no way, that's the roster. That's where the roster is. Yeah, Chris, the regime has not done a good enough job. He's a cat. Straight up. He's got nine lives out there. He really does. I know Dolphins fans agree. I'm not telling them anything they don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:41 So again, I gave him a B. I guess I probably could have given it lower, but it was hard for me to, I try to remind myself not to be too harsh on him because there's just no way that they were gonna fix all the holes in one draft. The Eagles, Howie did it again, John Campbell in the first, Andrew McCubbin in the second, Ty Robinson in the fourth, Mack McWilliams in the fifth, Mayel Mondad in the fifth, Drew Kendall in the fifth.
Starting point is 01:03:01 And then four six round picks, Kyle McCord, Miles Hinton, Cam Williams, Antoine Powell Ryland Jeez Howie Save some for the rest of us brother. I gave this draft an A Would you give them a B plus and I think it's almost because I'm always so blown away by their drafts that I'm grading on The Eagles in the Howie scale where any other team it would be like this is an A- this is really good It's it's not fair. The bar he's set. Obviously, Jihad Campbell falls due to medical. And this is the team that can take that risk because they always can take the risk. Macuba was my favorite pick.
Starting point is 01:03:35 You put a actual safety with range and ball skills behind this front and those corners. But Cooper is going to be flying around making plays through the air. Ty Robinson. So, MacCuba's gonna be flying around making plays through the air. Ty Robinson, I just, this is what the Eagles do. They see a falling defensive lineman that's kind of this, you know, the sledgehammer, like bouncing. Yeah, it's an awesome pick, Ty Robinson. The way he, the effort he plays with, the heavy handedness.
Starting point is 01:04:00 You know, McCord, if they see some more out of McKee and somebody wants to trade something from McKee, then let McCord step into the next developmental role as McKee and then getting two colossal tackles in Mile Hinton and Cam Williams that I valued more than where they took these guys and put them in the school of Jeff Stoutland. Yep, might've been my favorite picks, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:04:21 One of those two are gonna develop under him. I had Hinton at 167, they got him at 191. I had Cam Williams at 128, they got him at 207. I had Cam at 93. Right. And they got him at 209. Right, so. And Paul Rylance actually has done it again.
Starting point is 01:04:37 In my opinion, truly, he has. They had a quote afterwards, how he said this about Jahad Campbell. We looked at the draft as a long term opportunity for our team. We have a lot of confidence that this guy, Jahad Campbell, is going to be here and play at a really high level for a long time. He also mentioned that they tried to move up even higher to select him. So I think people who may be looking at like, why'd you trade up one pick?
Starting point is 01:05:01 They had, I guess, been trying to move up to go get him for a couple of selections before they ended up being able to make a deal with Kansas City to to move up to go get him for a couple of selections before they ended up being able to make a deal with Kansas City to assure that they were going to get him there. But I think this draft is perfect for them. Impact linebacker, Mokuba is just a fly around defensive back and do a lot of different stuff. Ty Robinson is just an excellent dirty work player. You're taking bets on Miles Hinton and Cam Williams. Antoine Powell-Ryland is a great designated pass rusher to get in the sixth.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Smael Mondin, just an athletic linebacker as well. Like this was just a classic Eagles draft that I thought was awesome. It really was. Howie's very good at this. Falcons, five picks in this draft. Jalen Walker in the first, James Pierce Jr. in the first, after a massive trade up that included them moving on from their first round pick next year.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Although they did get some back because I think they traded what was it, a fifth or sixth round pick and jumped all the way up into the third round, the back end of the third round. So they got some back, but hey, giving up a first round pick's giving up a first round pick. And that's what really matters here, going up to get James Pierce Jr.
Starting point is 01:06:03 They also drafted Xavier Watson in the third round, Billy Bowman in the fourth round, and then Jack Nelson in the seventh. I gave the Atlanta Falcons. After all that, with the trade up, with losing the first round pick, I gave the Falcons still a B plus in this draft. What did you give them? I gave them a B minus. Okay. I think we are going to be higher on the Falcons draft than a lot of people out there. Because of the trade? Yeah, I think a lot of people are killing the Falcons
Starting point is 01:06:31 and killing Terry Fontenot for the trade. And I definitely took that into account here, I did. But Xavier Watts' excellent value in the third round. Yeah, him and Bowman together is awesome. Bowman's excellent value, I think, in the fourth round, especially for how they run that defense. James Pierce Jr. gives him juice to pass rusher and then Jalen Walker. Yeah, they overdrafted Jalen Walker compared to where I had him, but he could be a great
Starting point is 01:06:57 football player for him. So ultimately I gave him a B plus. I gave the Falcons a B plus here. So what I like about this draft is that there's like the good and bad of Jeff Ulbrick in this situation. Is that Jeff Ulbrick was with the Jets when Quincy Williams got picked up on waivers and became an All-Pro.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And when you watch Jaylen Walker, you wonder if there's some development angles that were the same as Quincy Williams, but he also has more rush potential. Quincy is an A plus blitzer. Jalen could be an actual like rusher off the edge. I was lower on Pierce than not only where they took him, but the price they paid to get him.
Starting point is 01:07:38 They better be sure he's locked in. See, that's also the thing is I think that people look at the trade and they go like, how are you trading for Pierce? Item 23rd overall on my board. So you traded up to 26 to get him. I mean, that's where I thought he should have been picked and he was lower on yours. So it makes sense that you'd be a little lower.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Item 41st, he really needs to lock in and hopefully this is the scheme that could do that. I love the safeties, love the safeties. Insane value on both Watts and Bowman. My number one question, Trevor, is now without a first rounder next year, is Michael Pennex, like, you got enough out there, partner. Drake London and B. John Robinson,
Starting point is 01:08:15 and you know, we'll see with Mooney and Pitts. Don't you like to have assets for your quarterback in the future? Or spend maybe a draft pick that's not Jack Nelson to help him out too. I don't know. It just feels like they made a huge bet on Michael Pennex, one that I loved. But now we're like, yeah, they'll be good out there.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I don't know. I wouldn't have traded the future first. And if I was going to trade the future first, I would have made sure I got him some kind of help in this free agency or draft that I felt good about. So that's a lingering issue with the Falcons that I am a little concerned about. You know what?
Starting point is 01:08:54 I'm actively doing this. I'm gonna change my grade to a B minus because I forgot that like if they would have stayed at 46, now hindsight, it's tough to tell, but if they would have stayed at 46, they could have gotten either Nick Skorton or Mike Green at that point in time. I understand that the Mike Green conversation is different. Or you could have traded up for Donovan Ezraku and traded up a lot, traded away a lot less to make that happen. So with that being the case, I'm going to change this to
Starting point is 01:09:18 a B minus. I still love the dudes who they were able to get later. I still like James Pierce Jr. I think he could be good for them. I really do. But I do think that they were able to get later. I still like James Pierce Jr. I think he could be good for them, I really do. But I do think that they overpaid to get up to where they wanted to. You gotta hope that James Pierce Jr. is phenomenal for that to be the case. I'm not too worried about wide receiver again,
Starting point is 01:09:34 because like, would you have liked to have that first round asset for next year? Of course you would, but I think they could get receiver all the time, so. What do you think the look on their faces was like when the Giants trade came in after they signed off on their trade? That's another part that's that sucks, right? Because the Giants trade out for two third round picks and the Falcons traded up for a first rounder. But then again, they moved up from somewhere in the 200s, I can't remember where
Starting point is 01:10:00 exactly it was. And then they got into the back part of the third round for this draft So they were still able to do that you mitigate it a little bit, but it is hard giving up a first-round pick I do think though bottom line is they were aggressive in their approach to this draft. No doubt about it, but this defense is significantly better. Yes significantly better and defense is significantly better. Yes. Significantly better. And that is still the game. That is still what you want to do.
Starting point is 01:10:31 You don't want to do it recklessly. And I think there could have been a little bit of recklessness here, but at the end of the day, you're trying to make your football team better. And I do think that they made their football team a lot better this draft. So those are my thoughts there. All right, before we get on to the next team, NFL SEAS draft coverage is brought to you
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Starting point is 01:11:43 Then Darius Alexander in the third, Cam Scataboo, hell yeah brother. In the fourth, Jackson Dart in the first round as well. Then Darius Alexander in the third came scataboo. Hell yeah brother in the fourth Marcus bow in the fifth Thomas Benoni the second in the seventh and then Corey black in the seventh as well. I gave the New York Giants a B plus. What did you give the Giants? I gave them a B and it's it's really simple. There's a lot of players I liked in this draft.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Abdul Carter going to be a star. Derrick's Alexander, the kind of player you want next to Dexter Lawrence. Scataboo, the kind of player that churns through contact you want paired with Tyrone Tracy. Marcus Bowe is better than a fifth rounder, significantly better than a fifth round. Yes, could be a really good backup for you at garden center. I am skeptical Jackson Dart is going to be the guy for them for the long term future.
Starting point is 01:12:27 And that's it. And the trade was fine. Like they didn't they didn't get robbed like the Falcons seem seemingly did. It's just that this is what's probably going to decide the fate of Dable and Shane. And I'm skeptical that darts the long term answer. But man, they still got to be even after I don't love the quarterback selection because they got a lot of good football players.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I like Corey Black in the seventh round. Dude, excellent special teamer at the very least. Special teams, ball skills, good in single coverage. Yeah. Corey Black at 246, Ivan at 182. So I got him at 199. Yeah. Good draft by Joe Shane.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I just wonder if quarterback is just ultimately gonna kind of decide their fate for better or for worse. I mean, I could have given them a B. I gave them a B plus simply because Abdul Carter, appropriate range of where he was drafted. Darius Alexander plus value, Cam Scataboo plus value, Marcus Bowe plus value,
Starting point is 01:13:21 Thomas Fidoni plus value, Corey Black plus value. So I thought that they got plus value at every single draft pick other than Jackson Dart, but you're taking a swing at the quarterback and you didn't get robbed to do it like you said. So that's why I ended up going with AB plus for them. I think they navigated things the way that they needed to.
Starting point is 01:13:39 And again, I've said this before on this show, I do feel kind of bad for the Giants because I think that they have been in on the quarterback market in every single way throughout the entire process. I think they have tried to trade up to number one overall. I think they were trying to trade for Matthew Stafford. I think they were probably calling about Gino Smith. Like they have tried, they have tried to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:57 They didn't want to be in on this class, I don't think. And they didn't, I don't think it really wanted to be in on it, but other than Cam Ward, they probably said it's him or Jackson Dart. Let's just, let's take Jackson Dart. Cause in this quarterback class, I would find it very, very, very, very shocking, especially with how it ended up playing out that any NFL team was like, yeah, we got four or five of these guys that we like. It was probably, yeah, we like Cam Ward and pick one other guy. and pick one other guy, whoever's QB2 for you, Shador, Jackson Dart, Jalen Milrow, Tyler Shuck.
Starting point is 01:14:27 I almost guarantee that after those two guys, whoever they were, that was it. It's not like it was close after that. Right. So I try to not be too hard on that for the Giants who I agree with you, man. I thought they had a great draft. I think Kam Skataboo is an excellent thunder
Starting point is 01:14:42 and lightning to Tyrone Tracy. Marcus Bow, in my opinion, has not just starter potential, They had a great draft. I think Kamp Scataboo is an excellent thunder and lightning to Tyrone Tracy. Marcus Bow, in my opinion, has not just starter potential, but like impact potential as a center, man. If they ever want to move him to center, Darius Alexander, he's an older prospect, but man, I think he's gonna be great. Nexodextra Lawrence, especially because man,
Starting point is 01:15:00 if they keep a dual-carter, Kavon Thibodeau, Brian Burns, even if they trade Kavon Thibodeau, Brian Burns, even if they trade cave on Thibodeau, that is, that's a nasty front right there. Pass Russian waves. Yep, pass Russian waves, which is, you know, how the Giants won a Superbowl way back when. The Jags are up next. Very curious as to what you think of this draft.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Getting aggressive, trading up the number two for Travis Hunter in the first round. Then in the third round, Caleb Bransaw and Wyatt Milam. Basheul Tooten and Jack Kaiser in the fourth, Jalen McLeod and Rayon Lane in the sixth, and then Jonah Monheim and Laquint Allen there in the seventh. I gave the Jags, what did I give the Jags on Jaguars? Where's the letter J, here it is.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I gave them a B plus. What did you give the Jags? A minus. Okay. Paid a big price. Is anyone B plus. What did you give the Jags? A minus. Okay. Paid a big price. Is anyone ever gonna care if Travis Hunter is the star we all think he's gonna be? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:15:52 No one's gonna care when he's probably a star wide receiver and I'm curious if they play him at some safety slot, whatever they wanna do with him on defense. Caleb Ransaw, you know, speaking of slot player, Wyatt Milam is gonna transition nicely to guard. Bachel Tutin is the exact kind of lightning speed, explosiveness zone runner they needed. Jack Kaiser is an insanely instinctual smart linebacker.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Jalen McLeod to me is a guy that is, his best work is done as an edge rusher. Let's get him with his hand in the dirt and let him rush off the edge instead of playing off the ball. Lane is an ideal special teamer in round six. Jonah Monheim, I don't know if we'll ever have the play strength to actually play center in the NFL. We'll see Quinn Allen pass catching back insurance there for a backfield that's been banged up. They paid a big price and you know what? Go bold in the draft. Go get us make the draft electric
Starting point is 01:16:42 is what the Jacksonville Jaguars wanted to do. Man, I was a big fan. I think this offense is gonna be a lot of fun to watch this year. I can't give this anything less than a B, because like I said with the Cleveland Browns, you got aggressive to go up and get who was, if there is a generational prospect in this class,
Starting point is 01:16:59 Travis Hunter would be the first guy that I would name that has the best ability to do that. And so I can't hate you for being aggressive and going up to do that. The reason why I don't have this in the A range though is because Caleb Ransaw was heavily overdrafted from where I thought that he should have been on my big board. And I'm much lower on Bachel Tutin than you are. But very clearly this team wanted to get way faster, right? Travis Hunter, Caleb Ransaw, Bachel Tutin, Jack Kaiser, Jalem Claude, even Ryan Lane.
Starting point is 01:17:27 These are explosive football players. Team speed was the focus for the Jags. You see that theme when you look at their entire draft class. I was lower on a couple of those guys versus where I thought that they should have been drafted and where I would have comfortably drafted them. But I think it's a good draft class and I think the Jags got a lot faster on their roster all the way through. Gladstone's quite the character, huh? He is man. Uniquely positioned for this. Did you, did you listen to the speech afterwards? The Travis Hunter speech? When Hunter was sitting with him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I didn't know until
Starting point is 01:17:59 they zoomed, they punched out. And then Travis Hunter's right next to him. I'm like, oh hell yeah, brother. Somebody, somebody was saying to me like either that quote is going to be on a plaque when you first walk into the building or we're going to look back on it as like the cheesiest thing that he's ever said. Yeah. There's like no in between. Right.
Starting point is 01:18:17 He's like a blend of like dazed and confused in scouting. And like you said, Trevor, maybe a little cheesy at times, but I like their draft a lot and I like the direction this organization is going in under him. I'm very excited for Travis Hunter. I said this on the PFF live show. It feels like when they had Jalen Ramsey, like he feels like that kind of, you remember when Ramsey was on this team? I mean, just the confidence everywhere, winning plays through the roof, man. They thought they were the baddest dudes on the planet,
Starting point is 01:18:48 that 2017 Jaguars team, especially that defense. I think that Travis Hunter, not just in his ability, but also just who he is, can instill that type of confidence. I think the Jags can walk into any game and go, yeah, I mean, we got Travis. I mean, we could put up 40 points in this game because we have him,
Starting point is 01:19:05 especially when you're pairing him with Brian Thomas Jr. So I'm excited for the Jags, I really am. Jets, your New York Jets. They go on Mon Mambou in the first round, pass up on Tyler Warren, but they get a tight end in the second and Mason Taylor. Azari Thomas in the third, Arian Smith in the fourth, Malachi Moore in the fourth as well. Francis Maoga, is that how you say his name?
Starting point is 01:19:26 I think I better I better learn this. Moe and Oa? I better learn it pretty quick because I think his brother's gonna be like a top 10 draft pick next year. And then Tyler Barron in the fifth round as well. I gave the Jets a B+. Okay. What did you give? I gave them a B minus. And you're always gonna be a little harsher. I noticed this was with you at the Bucks, by the way. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:19:51 You're naturally gonna be a little harsher on the team you're close to, you've covered or cover. I thought the Jets, Aaron Glenn and Darren Moujee came out on fire in the first two days. And that's ultimately what's gonna matter for this draft. And if you believe that our mom, Membu is going to be the long-term answer at right tackle, which I do. Mason Taylor to me is a little bit of jack of all trades at tight end rather
Starting point is 01:20:12 than a master of one thing, but he's still growing into his body at 20 years old. And if you look at his bloodlines, you feel kind of good about that and they need that sixth player on the line of scrimmage and Tanner angstroms offense. I love Desaerie Thomas and I think offense. I loved Azariah Thomas. And I think if Aaron Glenn loved Azariah Thomas, you feel really good about that selection.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I thought that was where they got value. Azariah is just extremely physical, tough, focused, another 20 year old. It was weird, they took all these really young, high upside, but good floor prospects the first two days. Trevor, I just thought they lost the board on day three, honestly, Aaron Smith, even Baron, you know, Mo, Mo, Moingoa, Malchi Moore, I like it safety
Starting point is 01:20:54 because I think he can, he can kind of be that ballhawk rangy smart player on the back end for them. But the Jets had a really, really big need at defensive tackle next to Quinnen Williams. Their run defense last year when Kinlaw was next to him was dreadful. I did not like taking Arian Smith over Ty Robinson in that spot.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Or go get a Jay Toya later in day three. Get some kind of plugger. And they didn't do that. So that was my biggest gripe with them. But if we remember this Jets draft for the first three picks, I'm pretty confident those three guys are gonna be key starters for this team within a year.
Starting point is 01:21:29 I agree. I think they hit a home run in the first three picks. I don't love what they did on day three at all whatsoever. I thought that Arian Smith was way overdrafted. I thought, and I agree, I would have liked for them to go defensive tackle at some point. Barron, I think is fine as a football player, was drafted basically where I had him ranked.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Malachi Moore's a little bit higher, but I think he could be an Aaron Glenn disciple type of a player like he was with Nick Saban. So those aren't the worst, but the Arian Smith one was wild to me. That's a tough one because some people counter, they're like, well, it's day three, you're getting hung up on a fourth round pick.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Not on the fourth round though, especially when you need a defensive tackle. You need it or take a good wide receiver. Jalen Royals, Ellic Iow Manor, there was a lot of- Him getting picked over Royals is insane. It's borderline egregious. But they, yeah, I had a B minus, I was always gonna be tougher on them.
Starting point is 01:22:18 You had the B plus. The first three picks, the Jets should be really excited about, in our key areas. And I do think that that's what matters most. It does. Those first three picks. And it's the curse of inheriting a roster
Starting point is 01:22:29 that has been really thinned out. That you weren't gonna fix everything. And to your point, it looks worse when you look at Ty Robinson, CJ West, Joshua Farmer, Cam Jackson, Jordan Phillips, all of those players were still on the board when they picked Arian Smith. That's my exact issue. I think they could have picked Arian Smith with their last pick in the draft. I'm very confident they could have. It's a regime that they haven't turned over the college
Starting point is 01:22:54 scouting department yet and it was kind of the ghosts of Jets Day 3 pass with the same department. Hopefully if they can make changes with that department when they have more time over the next year, it'll improve over time. Detroit Lions, Tyleek Williams in the first round, Tate Ratledge in the second, Isaac Tesla in the third, and Isaac Tesla who they traded basically three round picks for, or round three picks for, excuse me. Miles Frazier in the fifth, Ahmed Hassan in the sixth, Dan Jackson the seventh, Dominic Lovett in the seventh. I gave the Detroit Lions a B plus.
Starting point is 01:23:31 They gave up a third rounder this year and two third rounders next year to go get Isaac Tesla. And I wrote this B plus grade before I realized that I thought that they were going to get a comp pick back for Aaron Glenn. And apparently that's one of the ones they traded. Oh, you know, cause cause he's a cause he was a minority coordinator and he goes to be a head coach. So the NFL awards you a third round draft pick
Starting point is 01:24:05 when that happens. So I was thinking to myself, okay, they traded a third round pick this year, a third round pick next year, and a third round pick next year to move up to make this happen. But they believe that they're getting a third round pick back for Aaron Glenn.
Starting point is 01:24:19 So I was thinking it was just a third rounder next year to move up, but that's not the case. They have already traded the third round pick that they will be awarded for Aaron Glenn. So they're not getting one back. So I could say that this draft is more of like a B minus because of that, because of learning that. Yeah, I gave it an A minus, but no one should be surprised.
Starting point is 01:24:40 You could have been watching the draft and you'd think Dan Campbell, I was just on the shoulders of Dan Campbell pressing buttons in the War Room at this point like yeah, Ty like Williams in the first round Just Braun just you know, obviously cheer power him and Alim McNeil This is a conference that you got to stop the run if you want to hang with if you want to be one of the big Dogs him and Ali McNeil together is gonna be something see. I love Tate Ratledge and Miles Frazier. I had them.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Tate Ratledge was in my top 50. Miles Frazier was in my top 100. So that's what decided this draft for me. I actually wonder if they're going to play Tesla on the outside, even though he played the slot at Arkansas. They're going to let him block his ass off. Let me tell you, because of the way that they talked about in post draft press conference, which I love.
Starting point is 01:25:25 I was higher on Tesla than you were. I had him at 111. Yeah. Yeah. I think I, I wouldn't be surprised if this is one I miss on, honestly. I was looking at him as this like really unique, explosive kind of project power slot. And I think the league just has bigger plans for him due to the, you know, the way he was limited in that offense. Andrew Armstrong didn't get drafted either, by the way, which I'm floored by. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:25:49 I like the Lions draft a lot. I love the identity that they have established with their organization. They are like one of the handful of teams that we've discussed that they get players that fit what they're really good at and they continue to replenish what they need. Yeah. Yeah. I think that I love the players that they drafted. Just like three third round picks for Tesla's. No, that's a really good call out by you. That's steep. A lot, but I do love the players.
Starting point is 01:26:13 So I don't know, B minus to a B plus, somewhere within there. I'll say B minus just because it's steep to give that up for a player like that. But if Tesla works out for them, then obviously it's great. But I love Miles Frazier and Amit Hasnian. He's a Michigan kidme. And is he?
Starting point is 01:26:26 I'm pretty sure Tesla's a Michigan kid, so that was kind of a cool moment of the draft. Oh, nice. Sneaky, sneaky Dane Jackson fan over here. I like Dane Jackson. Yeah, that was. They got a little bit of value there for Dane Jackson. Yes, they did.
Starting point is 01:26:42 They did that twice. I'm going back to their draft as I strolled away from it. I wanted that too. So they took Lovette obviously at the end there to pack up slot receiver. And then when you look at Jackson, he walk on scout team part time player, full time player, special teamer. That's and really like good tester. That's the kind of guy that hangs in the back into your roster
Starting point is 01:27:06 with seventh round pick. All right. Who's next? Packers. Oh, Green Bay Packers. Jumpscare. Everybody's favorite. Matthew Golden in the first, by the way, the crowd pot when they announced it was Matthew Golden was just an unbelievable moment of the draft. I love that so much. They the half cheer when they're like, for the first time since 2002,
Starting point is 01:27:29 they draft wide receiver and the crowd kind of goes nuts. And then they say, Matthew Golden. Everybody's like, yeah. They just lose their mind. That was Green Bay, man. Holy shit. What an awesome setting that was. Amazing setting. That looked incredible, man.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Amazing setting. Obviously just a football city town, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, it was. And it was set up. The scene looked awesome. Obviously the fans showed out the environment leading up to it was really cool.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Shout out to the fans of Green Bay making that really cool, even to watch on the other side of the television. Matthew Golden in the first, Anthony Belt in the second, Savion Williams the third, Baron Sorrell in the. Matthew Golden in the first, Anthony Belton in the second, Savion Williams the third, Baron Sorrell in the fourth, Colin Oliver the fifth, Warren Brinson in the sixth, Micah Robinson in the seventh, and then John Williams in the seventh as well. I gave the Green Bay Packers a B. I think that Matthew Golden is a perfect fit for
Starting point is 01:28:19 what Jordan Love wants to do as a quarterback. And I genuinely think that he could be wide receiver one for them. I like Belton, sorta not sure where he plays. Right. I don't really know what the Packers are doing on the offensive line now. You sign Aaron Banks when I felt like, okay, you kind of didn't really need to and then you draft Anthony Belton. So I'm like, okay, now I don't really, are you taking away from me free agency signing? Are you worried about somebody else on the
Starting point is 01:28:42 offensive line? Packers fans, let us know in the comments. I did really like the Sorrell and Colin Oliver selections. I thought those those guys are going to be excellent on that defensive line, even if they are like designated certain defensive linemen. I think those are good football players. But I give them a B. Would you give the Packers? I gave them a C. The Packers are always weird drafters. And there's times where they'll make you look incredibly stupid for your post draft thoughts because they get more out of a player that you wouldn't expect it from.
Starting point is 01:29:08 And there's times where they overthink slots and they don't really care and it doesn't work out. Matthew Golden is I thought was a second round wide receiver, a number two, but it's in this draft it was fine, right? Like what I have loved if a Mecha Ibuka Buca or Tep, you know, T Mac Macmillan fell to them. Yeah, but that's not how the draft worked. So they took the next guy and Golden. I have to stand.
Starting point is 01:29:34 I have to stand on business. Like I think Jayden Higgins is a better receiver prospect than Matthew Golden. So that that hurt this grade. And obviously, I don't think the NFL did. Matthew Golden was always going in the first round. So there's I'm going against consensus, and that's fine. You don't want to make a living doing that. But Bellin was a completely fine pick.
Starting point is 01:29:53 He kind of profiles with his build as a guard, but he does have length. Speed rushers will get him, but he's such a fascinating prospect on the offensive line because of his sheer power, his hip power. Savion Williams is probably the pick I liked the least. Savion Williams... It's just a bet, man. You know, it's just... At 87, though. They, yeah, I mean...
Starting point is 01:30:17 He's not a receiver to me. He's not. He doesn't catch the ball well. I mean, you got him at 193 in your rankings. I had him at 101, so this is close enough for me. I thought this was fine. So that's why I'm hiring this class. He's a wildcat weapon to me. So, and I like what they do with Jaden Reed in certain looks already. So I didn't really get that pick. I like the Colin Oliver pick quite a bit because the two games he played before he got hurt this year,
Starting point is 01:30:37 the move to edge as a situational rusher at the NFL looked like it's gonna work. He could just get off the ball and go and create havoc. So I'm really excited about that one. But yeah, I mean, it was kind of a typical Packers draft where there's some things I just don't align with. It wasn't terrible by any means. I think Golden will be fine.
Starting point is 01:30:56 I think ultimately though they'll still be searching for that high end number one wide receiver down the road. Panthers went, Tett McMillan at number eight overall. Surprises all there. Surprised K Adams there. Oh, they got our ass. Nick Scorton in the second, Prince Umon Mellon in the third,
Starting point is 01:31:10 Trevor Etienne in the fourth, Lathan Ransom in the fourth, Cameron Jackson in the fifth, Mitchell Evans in the fifth, and Jimmy Horn in the sixth. Connor, this is tied for the highest grade that I gave. Yeah, same, close. I gave the Carolina Panthers an A plus in this draft.
Starting point is 01:31:25 I mean, they could not have done better. I just, I don't think that they could have done better. Getting Tetra on McMillan changes this offense drastically in my opinion, if he is that wide receiver one that we believe that he could be. You drafted two great pass rushers, one of them who wins with a great pass rush plan in Prince of Guam and in Nick's Gordon
Starting point is 01:31:43 and the other one who has some of the best bend and first step explosion is in the class in Prince Ligman Miele and even if he is just a designated pass rusher you don't have to think about him like you're picking him in the first round they picked him at 77 so this is an excellent designated pass rusher right there Trevor Etienne I think is probably long-term RB to on this team with Jonathan Brooks having back-to-back ACL injuries I think, is probably long term RB to on this team with Jonathan Brooks having back to back ACL injuries. I think Lathan Ransom could legitimately be the starter opposite Trayvon Merritt. Cameron Jackson's excellent in the middle to play with even more strength on those early downs in the run game.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Mitchell Evans, I think, could be tight end too for this team behind you. Jutave and Evans. I really do think that they got starters or contributing players with every single pick round one through six. This is an A plus draft for me. It was an A minus for me. It's a phenomenal draft. The McMillan pick was perfect, in my opinion. Nick Scorton, I thought was a top 20 player. They got him at 51.
Starting point is 01:32:36 That's a slam dunk. Cam Jackson in the fifth round. I had him at 88. They got him at 140. I thought he was one of the best run defending nose tackles in the draft. Prince Lee, right where I had him, you know, really gifted pass rusher ransom. I'm with you all the way. I had him at 111. I think he could be a starting strong safety. Mitch 11's depth tight end, Jimmy Horn depth wide receiver. Literally the only thing keeping this draft from an A. I didn't give out any A pluses this year. The only thing keeping this
Starting point is 01:33:01 draft from an A from an A minuses. I did not like Trevor Etienne. I didn't see him as anything more than an RB3 in the league. He's I they took him at 114. I thought there was a lot of better running backs on the board. I'm not gonna get hung up over one pick we saw differently here at the Panthers, but just to you know, kind of show the analysis with him. He's small. He didn't get a lot of usage. He's a zone runner only. He fumbled on just 154 touches. He's got quick feet, but he's not somebody that to me is a difference maker at all. It's fine. It's a running back.
Starting point is 01:33:32 It is what it is. They wanted a smaller, shifty or straight line speed kind of guy. But I thought the Panthers crushed the draft outside of that pick and got starter after starter after starter. And the volume they got in this draft was up there with any other team. I think Trevor Etienne's a flash player. I don't think he's a full-time player, but that's all you need him to be with Chuba Hubbard, like he can be the receiving back and he can be the flashy player for you. And that's why I'm okay with that one a little bit more than you,
Starting point is 01:34:02 but Panthers excellent draft. I didn't do this on purpose, but we got the Patriots next. Will Campbell in the first round, Travion Henderson in the second, Kyle Williams in the third, Jared Wilson in the third, Craig Woodson and Joshua Farmer in the fourth, Braden Swinson in the fifth, no idea how. Andreas Borogallis in the sixth, Marcus Bryant, Julian Ashby, Kobe Miner.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Connor, I said that the Panthers were tied for the highest grade. I also gave the New England Patriots an A+. I just absolutely love their draft. They, I mean, like, I was sitting here having to talk about Joshua Farmer. I was like, whoa, whoa, okay, I don't know about him in like the second or third round,
Starting point is 01:34:38 like some people are thinking about, but fourth round, great young player to take a chance on. Craig Woodson, I think, can be a really good rotational, perhaps even a starting safety for them at some point. Jared Wilson, getting him where they did I thought was excellent to play at the center spot. Kyle Williams, perfect value for where I had him on the board, genuinely believe he could be an impact wide receiver for them. Trevion Henderson's a really nice smash and dash with Ramandre Stevenson. Will Campbell, you know, we both love Will Campbell there. And then especially getting Braden Swinson like a hundred spots after where I had him ranked as
Starting point is 01:35:09 a great pass rusher behind Harold Landry and For the Future. I thought this draft along, I might be tying the off season in like together with the Patriots when I say A+, but what they did in free agency and then complimenting that with what they did in the draft. Just beautiful in my opinion. A an incredible first off season from Mike Vrabel. And it just, yeah, this one was an A plus for me, given what they needed in the players they got. I gave this a B in my written article and I'm kind of getting away from,
Starting point is 01:35:42 it's definitely a B plus here. The more I dive in and look at where I had players. My lingering question with New England is, I will stand by, I don't think Will Campbell is a long-term franchise left tackle. I think he could be an all-pro caliber guard. They are gonna play him at left tackle. They used the top five pick on him to be a left tackle.
Starting point is 01:36:00 We'll see how that goes. That's my biggest question. But you needed speed on offense. You got Travian Henderson and Kyle Williams. You needed an upgrade at center or future upgrade at center. You got Jared Wilson, who is one of the most athletic centers. You know, we'll see play strength needs to go up, but so much athleticism. I liked Craig Woodson.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Joshua Farmer was great value for the defensive line. Swinson was the steel of this class. I think he's a really, really talented heavy handed edge that just understands how to use his length. So yeah, this was a good draft for the Patriots. I just have still have questions about the long-term tackle situation on both sides for this team because Morgan Moses is a good stopgap signing,
Starting point is 01:36:39 but he is hurt a lot at his age and getting to the end. And I don't think Campbell's a left tackle, but everything they did in between that was really, really high level stuff. So I think I was off in the, in the written part. It's at least a B plus for me. Yeah. And I think that the Campbell evaluation certainly goes into it. I, I, I think he can play tackle. Um, at least I would certainly want him to play tackle. And if not, I think he's an all pro type of guard for you. So I just love that player there. The Raiders, Ash and Gentie in the first round, Jack Bech in the second, Darian Porter in the third, Caleb Rogers in the third, and Charles Grant in the third.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Deontay Thornton in the fourth along with Tonka Hemingway, JJ Piggies in the sixth, Tommy Malott in the sixth, Cam Miller in the sixth, which is hilarious because Tommy Malott and Cam Miller went up against each other in the FCS National Championship game, which North Dakota State ended up winning. And then Cody Lindenberg there, the linebacker from Minnesota in the 7th. You sort of teased it earlier in the show, what the Raiders are doing. John Spytek, I thought, had an excellent first draft as a general manager there. I gave the Las Vegas Raiders an a for this draft high influx of talent in this draft good bets to make especially the athletes Right like Caleb Rogers Charles Grant. Are they?
Starting point is 01:37:54 Finished products. No, but great athletes there JJ Pegues the same way Tommy Malat just an unreal athlete Transitioning from the quarterback position to that wide receiver position Dante Thornton I think is a great vertical stretching wide receiver that is perfect for this team especially when you throw Jack Besh in there with Brock Bowers and Wichita Coby Myers. Now they have the long speed threat with Deontay Thornton. Ideally I think Darian Porter is perfect for a Pete Carroll defensive scheme as an off coverage cover three type of corner who can play with some length as well when he's near the line of scrimmage. And then obviously Ashen Genti is Ashen Genti. I think he's a takeover offense changing type of a player even while playing running back. I love this draft. I thought Spytech did excellent. I echo everything you said. I gave him an A-. This draft ruled. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Spytech showed he's run drafts or helped run drafts in Tampa for a while, and he showed the bright lights were not too bright for him at all. And Pete Carroll's influence was on this draft as well. I thought they, the cohesion between the two was phenomenal. They got value on so many picks in this draft for me. I mean, plus value by far on Besh, Caleb Rogers, not Caleb Rogers, Charles Grant. There was a couple more too. JJ Pagese was another value for me in that spot.
Starting point is 01:39:11 The look of this offense is phenomenal. I mean, there's a world once again where they might have the best tight end and the best running back in football two to three years from now. Charles Grant, I think, could develop into a starting tackle for them. Caleb Rogers, I think, could be important guard depth.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Darian Porter is just a freakish size speed athlete, a corner that's a special teams demon. Besh is potentially their best receiver pretty quickly. They got vertical stretch threat in Thorin. Hemingway and Pagese depth up front. We'll see if Tommy Malott can transition to slot receiver. Huge, huge fan of what this team did.
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Starting point is 01:41:09 So even though on the flip side of said, I can understand the Falcons paid a lot to do it. I certainly like it a lot for the Los Angeles Rams who gained an extra first round pick next year. They took Terrence Ferguson in the second round, Josiah Stewart in the third, Jarqus Hunter in the fourth, Ty Hamilton in the fifth, Chris Paul Jr. in the fifth as well, and then Kanata Mumfield in the seventh. My boy, had him 169 on my board and he goes 244.
Starting point is 01:41:31 I think that was a good value for them to get them there. I gave this Rams draft a B plus, especially when you take into account gaining a first round pick next year. What'd you give them, Kyle? So with that context, I gave them an A. Now, just the hall, I gave a C+. I want to be really fair.
Starting point is 01:41:46 In the article, I was like, it's just about the haul. The players as the haul are a C+, but when you trade away your first round pick for a future first rounder, that's a huge factor that didn't count. When you count that, I wrote this is an A for Lesney. He robbed the Falcons in that trade back. Terrence Ferguson was a little, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:42:02 I thought I was the biggest Terrence Ferguson fan. I thought this was a little bit of a reach, but he said, I was like, like the meme meme? Like I was like, Terrence Ferguson, top 50, good for you, man. I thought I was the only one that loved you like that. So a great scheme fit for McVay just a little early. Josiah Stewart though, if you flip these picks, it's perfect.
Starting point is 01:42:20 I had Stewart at 52, they got him at 90. I had Ferguson at 90, they got him at 46. Jar had Ferguson at 90. They got him at 46 JarQuest hunter Okay, I mean they like these smash-mouth downhill running backs Ty Hamilton's are an interesting player because of his explosiveness off the ball Chris Paul, Jr Sub-package linebacker with range. They just didn't have a lot of assets Trevor that were early that it would be impossible to get that kind of Big grade, but if you factor the trade, this is an a I thought they robbed robbed the Falcons blind. Yeah, I think that certainly with the trade, it makes this a lot better. I think the Ferguson pick was fine overdrafted, but fine. They wanted a tight end very clearly Josiah Seward's good value. I like their final three picks. I like Ty Hamilton. I love Chris Paul Jr. And I love
Starting point is 01:42:58 Kanata Mumfield Jarquis Hunter. Good football player. I just think it's kind of redundant. Like you already have that on your roster, right? You already have Kyron Williams, you already have Blake Corum. You already have- Did they not like Blake Corum? Cody Strader? I don't, who knows?
Starting point is 01:43:10 Yeah, so that one was just sort of redundant for me, but I think it was a fine class that's propped up by them getting an extra first round pick. Huge. Honestly though, Chris Paul is excellent for them. Look what they were able to do with Omar Spates last year. Undrafted free agent who became a starting linebacker for them. Chris Paul Jr. played
Starting point is 01:43:27 with so much patience and high IQ this past year. I bet it could be a starter for them as a fifth rounder, which is awesome to say. And then man, look out for Kanata Mumfield. I think they saw him and the flashes that he was as a route runner. I think he can make this team and I think he could be somebody who's a good depth player for them. I really do. I think he might be something. Ravens, Malkei Starks in the first, Mike Green in the second, Emory Jones in the third, Teddy Buchanan in the fourth, Carson Vincent in the fifth, a handful of six round picks, Belal Cohn, Tyler Loop,
Starting point is 01:43:54 LeJonte Wester, Anais Peebles, Robert Langerbeam, and then Garrett Dellinger in the seventh. I gave the Baltimore Ravens, where are we at here with the Ravens? I gave the Ravens an A. I thought they got great value for their first two picks. That's what they do. Malachi, Starks, and Mike Green.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Obviously, everything that happened with Mike Green is a lot of off the field stuff. So whatever happens with that, whatever they figure out, whatever goes on after the draft, I'm not sure. But for where I had the player ranked on the field, certainly if they get a guy who is able to play, I mean he is somebody who is a phenomenal football player. I thought they hit a lot of needs too, like Emery Jones overdrafted from where I had him on the board, but as a guard, he's what the Ravens want. He's what they gravitate towards, speed at linebacker with Teddy Buchanan.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Carson Vinson is a, he looks like he's built in the lab type of an offensive tackle that you take a bet on in the fifth. I think Bilal Cohn's actually really good value for them as a depth cornerback. Lejante Wester is a good player. Anais Peebles great value there. Robert Longerbeam I think could be a starting slot someday. Maybe not for the Ravens because it feels like they're secondary stacked,
Starting point is 01:44:56 but I think he's got that kind of change of direction ability. So I like all the players that the Ravens brought in here and they got plus value at the very top. So I gave him an A. A minus from me. Baltimore knows how to crush value and fix their problems. Problems on defense, get reliability on the back end.
Starting point is 01:45:13 Malkei Starks brings that, get pure pass rush up front. Mike Green brings that. Teddy Buchanan, impressive, impressive athletic linebacker that goes from Cal Polly to Cal and really, really developed under that staff. Carson Vincent, a good developmental tackle for them that they can stash for a year or two before he has to play. You brought up Palaukoni.
Starting point is 01:45:35 He's somebody that kind of has the size that they're looking for at the position. Lajonte, Western, nice little Zay Flowers insurance policy. I think Ines Peebles is just a pass rush artist, man. He's an outlier with size and lack of athleticism, but he just knows how to get through blockers. And I would bet on him making their rotations. So Baltimore, they understand the pre-draft process with compensatory picks and they understand value
Starting point is 01:45:56 and how the board will break during the draft. A minus, one of my favorite classes. It was a very Baltimore Ravens-y type of draft. It felt like throughout. Saints went with Kelvin Banks Jr. in the first, Tyler Shuck in the second, Vernon Broughton in the third, Jonas Sanker in the third, Danny Stutsman in the fourth, Quincy Riley in the fourth, Devin Neal in the sixth, Molokai Matavao in the seventh, and then
Starting point is 01:46:19 Fadal Diggs in the seventh. I gave this a C plus, Connor. Yeah. What did you give them? I gave it a C, because at the end of the day, what do you think this draft is gonna be judged off of, Trevor? Well, Tyler Schock. There you go. And now it's, there's players I like.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Kelvin Banks, I was a big Kelvin Banks guy. I think this line is heading in the right direction. They've taken two of my guys the last two years, of Funga and now Banks. Broughton can be disruptive. Obviously Sanker can help your run defense as a safety. So can Stutzman at linebacker. Riley in 2023 was really good in man coverage. This year he wasn't the same player while he was dealing with an ankle injury.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Sanker through Neal were good picks. Sanker, Stutzman, Riley, Neal, I think were good picks for this team. I don't know what the plan is at quarterback for this team. You have an injured starter in Derek Carr and you took a very injured 25 year old at the 40th overall pick. It's just I can't get by that when evaluating this class. You're not just accumulating players. You have to have some kind of team building process here and the Saints got a lot of solid players.
Starting point is 01:47:21 But I like I said with the Giants, so the Giants draft was way better. I just don't think Shuck is the long-term answer as a starter. As a starter, he was an exciting backup fringe starter, not the answer. I thought Shuck was a massive overdraft, especially as QB3 in this draft. Yeah. Vernon Broughton, I like as a football player. I think he's fine. But they picked him one pick before Landon Jackson, which was very puzzling because he's basically the same player that Landon Jackson is, except Landon Jackson is just better. They also had Jordan Burch on the board if you wanted an athlete sort of similar inside out type of a defensive lineman and then if you wanted a pass rusher Prince Lee Umon Miellon was still on the board so I didn't love the value of where Vernon
Starting point is 01:48:12 Broughton was taken and I don't love the players that they picked him over right similar positions yeah so Shuck is tough Vernon Broughton is tough when you look at me like that like I said Sanker through Neal I like and then the seventh rounders are the seventh rounders but I did like bank so ultimately I gave this one a C-plus. I do think their offensive line does get a lot better with Kelvin banks at left tackle Talize Fuangas switching to right now You could hopefully kick Trevor Penning inside where he could be a lot better But the Shuck and Verrotton picks were were tough were tough for me Seattle Seahawks Grey's Abel in the first round, Nicky Manwari in the second, Elijah Arroyo in the second, Jalen Milrow in the third, and then on day three, Riley Mills in the fifth, Tori Horton in the fifth, Robbie Utes in the fifth, Bryce Cabledue in the sixth, Damian Martinez in the seventh, Mason Richmond in the seventh, and then Ricky White in the seventh as well.
Starting point is 01:48:59 I gave the Seahawks an A. Whoa, wow. I thought the Seahawks had really good value and really good bets to make. When you look at Iman Worry, I think that was the one where I would have gone like, okay, that was much higher. You know, like they drafted Iman Worry 35th,
Starting point is 01:49:15 he's 67th on my board, he was 48th for you. But I put Iman Worry 26th on the Seahawks team-specific board because of places that I would have liked Iman Worry to go, this was one of the preferred destinations with Mike McDonald. So I am actually pretty good with that. John Schneider said that they almost traded back into the first round to go get Nick Iman Worry.
Starting point is 01:49:39 So not doing that and waiting on it a little bit, getting him in the second round I think was good. They traded a third rounder to do that. so I think you take that into account as well but again this is at least one of the spots that I really liked for them. I think that Bryce Cable do could actually be an interior starter for them potentially and then I loved Horton and Arroyo as those big wide receivers that they took bets on one of the tight end spot and then one is a wide receiver. I thought that was really good value for both of those guys especially with where they were going and then Jalen Milro I think is a wide receiver. I thought that was really good value for both of those guys, especially with where they were going.
Starting point is 01:50:05 And then Jalen Milrow, I think is a good bet to make. So I think that this was a draft outside of Zable and Arroyo, really. I think it was a draft of a lot of bets that I really like the bets. I think that this team, John Schneider and Mike McDonald, really identified what their roster is, what they do well and which players to make bets on as the draft went on. So I thought they navigated this very well. I gave the Seahawks an A.
Starting point is 01:50:32 I gave them a B minus. I will say, it's funny, they came out in round one and took one of the safer picks in round one in Gray Zabel. They did. And then they swung for the fences. Pick after pick after pick, it felt like. Did you see Zabel's quote? No.
Starting point is 01:50:48 After he got drafted? They had like a conference call, you know, with like beat reporters or whatever. And one of the beat reporters is like, hey, so what are you gonna do after that? And Gray Zabel's like, shoot man, I don't know, probably get into these bush lives. I did see that, that was great.
Starting point is 01:51:04 That was great. He's such a dude's dude. What a king. Such a dude's dude. Yeah, that was it. That's a slam dunk pick. So then, Emanwory, I just have concerns about the run defense. It's he it's got to be taken up a couple of notches. McDonald's should be the guy with the plan for him. Arroyo went healthy is a huge difference maker at tight end when healthy.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Milrow, I loved it that spot. You know, and then it's a lot of depth options. I think Torrey Horton can be a steal for this team at wide receiver and they need wide receiver help. It's just gonna be interesting to see the boomer bus factor for those two round two picks and the round three pick with Jalen Milrow.
Starting point is 01:51:45 I love the Arroyo pick, So I'm all in on that one. Even worry. Obviously I thought that was a good spot. And honestly, I want to shout out Ricky White because a lot of people were talking about Ricky White is like a fourth or fifth round wide receiver. I didn't see that, but to get him in the seventh, this is somebody who can be a special teams, a sport man, has blocked punts before. He can be a kick returner. Four this year. He can be a punt returner. Like this dude, what an excellent special teams weapon
Starting point is 01:52:11 to get in the seventh round. Four block punts this year. That's pretty remarkable stat. Yeah. Pittsburgh Steelers. Defensive tackle Derek Harmon in the first. Caleb Johnson in the third. Jack Sawyer in the fourth.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Yaya Black in the fifth. Will Howard in the sixth. Carson Bruner in the third, Jack Sawyer in the fourth, Yaya Black in the fifth, Will Howard in the sixth, Carson Brunner in the seventh, and then Dante Kent in the seventh as well. I threw acquiring DK Metcalf into this. Okay, I did not. And so I gave them a B plus because I think that Derek Harmon is a great predecessor to Cam Hayward. I think he makes their defensive line a lot better.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Even with me being lower on Derek Harmon, I think that this Avenue was the right pick for them. Kenneth Grant's off the board, Walter Nolan's off the board, Mason Graham's off the board. I can understand them going with Derek Harmon here at 21. I think that Caleb Johnson, you know I was hesitant on Caleb Johnson.
Starting point is 01:52:59 He was lower for me than I felt like he was on other people's boards, but in an Arthur Smith offense, perfect. That was the place for him. Absolutely perfect. Don't really love Jack Sawyer and Yahya Black. I don't know how big of impact players you're getting there. Will Howard's a nice quarterback to bet on
Starting point is 01:53:13 and have as a deaf player there for you. But throwing in DK Metcalf, I gave it a B plus. Outside of DK Metcalf edition, probably something like a B-. Yeah, I gave it a B without counting Metcalf. Harmon, perfect fit and a popular mock draft choice for them for the reasons he said. Caleb Johnson I thought was really good value. I had him at 59.
Starting point is 01:53:31 I think he's just tailor made for the scheme. You know, we've had jokes with Jack Sawyer. They still got value on that pick for me. I still think he could be- Fourth round, yeah, it's fine. I still think he could be a hard nosed edge setter for them. Yaja Black kind of beefens up the middle of your run defense again.
Starting point is 01:53:45 Will Howard, I think, will be a reliable backup. Carson Bruner is not just a story with his dad being a scout there. He could be a real special teams player for you as can Dante Kent. So that is cool, though. Yeah, it's really cool. So sturdy, sturdy draft for the Steelers and a B for me. Texans. Your draft here. I actually ran this draft room for a couple for me. Texans, your draft here.
Starting point is 01:54:06 I actually ran this draft room for a couple picks. They trade down with the New York Giants from pick number 25 to pick number 34. They pick up what, two second round picks? What did they pick up for this? The Giants, two threes? Two third round picks, third round picks. Yeah, it wasn't too heavy of a price.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Yeah, two third round picks to move up to 25 and the Texans moving back to 34. They took Jayden Higgins in the second round, then Ariante Ercery in the second round, Jaylen Noll in the third round to reunite the Cyclone duo, Jaylen Smith in the third round, Woody Marks in the fourth, then in the sixth, Jaylen Reed and Graham Mertz,
Starting point is 01:54:43 then his seventh, Keontae Hamilton, and your boy Luke Lachey So what'd you think of this one? I gave I gave the Texans a B What did you give me too because it's one of those things where I'm like Oh, I like this collection of players for the most part But I'm still worried about your offensive line even after getting up even after getting Ursary So that I have questions of myself anyway, right? There's fair to have questions about Ursary and he's not gonna be a one man fix it even if he hits.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Jalen Smith was way earlier than I expected. I guess they really like him in the slot. I wasn't as competent in him being a long-term starter. So was Woody Marks for me. Woody Marks, you know, they get us that pass catching back. It was a little early, but you know his role. I at least think the role was open. You're right.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Yeah, the role makes sense. Higgins and Knoll, I think are gonna be a slam dunk for this team as people know. I think they could have the best trio of wide receivers in the conference. Trio is important here, not duo, because there's obviously a lot of reasons for that. Not only with Jamar Chase and T Higgins,
Starting point is 01:55:45 but now Travis Hunter and Brian Thomas Jr. are going to be an amazing duo. There's a lot of good duos in the AFC, but those three across the board with Nico Collins and the Iowa State guys is going to be really impressive with CJ Stroud. It just always goes back to I don't trust this offensive line right now, but it's a B for me.
Starting point is 01:56:00 Good collection of players. This secondary is nuts. Oh, it's silly. It's all the players. This secondary is nuts. Oh, it's silly players that they've brought in. It's silly. Jalen Reed, Jalen Reed's like running third line with the same Jalen. Reed is learned special teams, buddy. Like that's how deep he's going to have to, which is fine. He's a good athlete for that.
Starting point is 01:56:18 It's actually a better role for him right now anyway. I just man, they have so many secondary players that lean on and so I like the addition of both of the wide receivers. I'm worried about Ursury just overall as a player I think he explodes well that first step explosion this is there for him but a little bit shorter arms a little bit of a waist bender I think he's got to get more flexible. He does bend. He's got to start doing you've got to do goat yoga this this. That's who he's gotta get into. We gotta get this guy more flexible.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Goat yoga? Yeah, yeah. It's where, like, you do yoga, but then there's just a bunch of, like, little goats that are, like, walking around. I feel like I've seen content of this in whatever works for people. I've never done it, but I always like referencing it.
Starting point is 01:57:01 I've never stretched, ever. Yeah, no, yeah. If I'm, this is me, this is me for a pickup basketball game now. Yeah. it but I always say referencing it I've never stretched ever yeah no yeah if I this is me this is me for a pickup basketball game now yeah just just a little bit of this you know just warm up the rear delts a little bit I jump in the squat rack you know give me a right my warm-up is I walk my dog and we run a little bit and then I get home and jump into the rack is yeah and then you just 40 years old I will not be able to walk. Good plan.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Tennessee Titans, they obviously went with Cam Ward at number one overall. Oluwafemi Olodejo in the second. Kevin Winston in the third. Shimere Dike in the fourth. Gunnar Helm in the fourth. And then Elikiyo Maynor in the fourth at 136. Crazy. An absolute crime against humanity.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Jackson Slater in the fifth. Marquis Harris at number six, or in the sixth round. And then K, Marquis Harris in the sixth round, and then Kahlil Mullings in the sixth round as well. Weird draft. This is a roller coaster draft to a tee. I gave them a B. Okay. Because you take Cam Ward, okay, great, fine.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Ola Dejo is risky over Prince Umon Miellan, Braden Swinson, Josiah Stewart, all of those guys you could have picked at this point. Kevin Winston Jr. and Ellic Iomane are just unbelievable value in my opinion. Shimmery DK was even as a Florida Gator, like I liked him when he was in Florida, I cannot believe he got drafted in the fourth round. I was shocked. Gunner Hellmum a little bit, especially because your boy Elijah Badger went undrafted.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Right, who actually- He went undrafted. Elijah Badger catches the ball. That's the difference between him and DK. Did you see Xavier Shrepo got signed here as a UDFA? To Tennessee, right? Yeah, with Cam. Which is like chef's kiss. Apparently Cam was like calling the GM.
Starting point is 01:58:41 It was like, it's like sixth and seventh round. He's like, draft him, draft him like draft him, draft him, draft him, draft him, draft him. That is Cam's, that is Cam's guy. Cam, that's, he's got his guys back, which is cool. So again, I think risky on Olofemi Oladejo, who we were much lower on, it felt like than the NFL was going to be.
Starting point is 01:59:00 But go ahead, go ahead. I mean, how about, how about Nick Skorton going 51st, and then Oladeo going 52nd? Yeah, it's the ones that get away. So I gave it a B plus. I think Cam Ward is gonna be their franchise quarterback. And I- I don't know how much credit I give them for Cam Ward.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Yeah, but you still have to factor it in. Yeah, but I mean, it's just like, no, I know, I know. I did what you were supposed to do. They didn't get a B plus because they took Cam Ward. They got a B plus because they took Kevin Winston Jr. Yeah, it's just like, no, I know. I know. You did what you were supposed to do. They didn't get a B plus because they took Cam Ward. They got a B plus because they took Kevin Winston Jr. Yeah, that's fair. 40 spot value for me.
Starting point is 01:59:30 They took Elk, Io, Manor, massive, massive value. It was like a 70 spot value for me. And those were my favorite picks. Oladayjo, DK, I have some concerns there, but I think Cam Ward is gonna be the franchise quarterback here. And I think Cam Ward is going to be the franchise quarterback here and I think Io Manor is going to develop into one of his go-to targets within the next two years. I think Kevin Winston Jr. is a starter at safety. He's awesome. I think Elk
Starting point is 01:59:54 Io Manor is wide receiver too for this team sooner rather than later. Yeah. Gunnar Helm, I don't know. I really don't know what to believe with the combine numbers, but I know. At least you're taking him in the fourth. The Callahan's are basically starting from scratch with him as a blocker, which is good people to be coaching you, but you actually have to do it. So Jackson Slater is probably a center only guy because of the lack of length. But we'll see how he can fit within this offensive line. Kahlil Mowings. I think is good for them. I think he's a powerful running back to have in that room.
Starting point is 02:00:26 I think he could be RB three. He's different than what they have. Yeah. Minnesota Vikings, the final team here. Uh, Donovan Jackson in the first round, Ty Felton in the third, Terry and Ingram Dawkins in the fifth, Kobe King in the sixth, and then Gavin Bartholomew in the sixth. Connor, I gave this one a C.
Starting point is 02:00:42 I gave the Vikings a C. And the reason why I did is because of two things. They did not trade down from number 24 when there was a lot of evidence that they could have with the Houston Texans trading back the pick after them and gaining two extra third round picks, as well as the Rams getting a first from the Atlanta Falcons.
Starting point is 02:01:02 I don't know if the Falcons just didn't call the Vikings or not. Right. But if they called the Vikings and said, hey, we'll give you a first round pick, because Lord knows they would have offered a first round pick, because they offered it to the team two picks later. So if this actually happens, and they pass that up for Donovan Jackson, I understand that Donovan Jackson sort of finalizes their offensive line,
Starting point is 02:01:23 is one of the best offensive lines in the NFL, but man, I Just look at those two teams that traded back and felt like that should have been the Vikings to do that and then the other one is You didn't have a lot of picks in this draft, right? And with your third round pick you drafted Ty Felton. I don't know Why I don't know why like for I don't know. Why? Like for what? Why did you do that? I just don't I don't get that one. I do not get that one. Tierney and Grimdalkins I like. Kobe King is fine. Gavin Bartholomew is fine. But that's my gripe with the Viking draft. Yeah. Once again, for the last time,
Starting point is 02:01:58 this is the last team, I grade on Halls and not what value did they get when they traded their future picks away. It's just is a C minus because it's a one player class. In my opinion, it's Donovan Jackson. Kobe King. I do really like they got insane value to Kobe King, but he just might be a base down at or like special team or rotational kind of thumper. I know people really like Ty Felton.
Starting point is 02:02:24 He's a great dude. He works Felton. He's a great dude. He works really hard. He's got awesome speed. He does not have NFL play strength for me right now. Also, where does he play? I don't know. Also, where's he playing? Where's he playing on this team?
Starting point is 02:02:35 You have Justin Jefferson, you have Jordan Addison, you have Jalen Naylor. I guess they're thinking he's gonna be the- And you have Ron Elmore. You brought in Ron Elmore. Where does Ty Felton play? They think he's gonna be the three in the future, but yeah, Donovan Jackson will fit like a glove
Starting point is 02:02:49 on this offensive line perfectly. It's just that you didn't have a lot of picks, which is, you nailed it, Trevor. Like, that's your own doing. So that's why it's factors into the grade. You're the reason you don't have a lot of picks here. Now the good news is the Vikings have one of the best coaching staffs in football.
Starting point is 02:03:05 They're an excellent football team. They're going to be fine. It's just a draft where you walk away and it's a little surprising for an analytical approach from Quezzi that this is kind of how they ended up with limited swings. We would love to hear from you. Let us know what you thought of your team's hall. Give us your team's halls grade. Tell us the team, tell us the grade, and give us the reason why. This community is a community full of draft attics,
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Starting point is 02:04:55 We'll do some more rookie stuff, obviously, next year, as Trevor and I often do if you're new to the show. But the actual scouting phase of it is over. And nobody else I'd rather do it with you than you, man. It's been so many good conversations and back and forth and thoughts and projections, and now it all gets to play out. So that's the best part of it all.
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