NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 2027 Draft QB Rankings Update And Underrated Guys You Should Know
Episode Date: October 9, 2026Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you their third episode of DRAFT GUIDE! We go over our current Top 10 QB Rankings after Week 5 of the CFB Regular Season. We also do a new segment: Guys You Shoul...d Know. We go over 8 guys that have shot up Trevor and Connor's board since the start of the season. We end with our favorite matchups to watch this weekend that could impact the draft!CHECK OUT OUR NEW MOCK DRAFT SIMULATOR ON OUR DISCORD - JOIN HERE! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=descriptionSubscribe and help us get to 100k subs! It's 100% free and helps us out a bunch. Thanks!WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEWhttps://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=descriptionif the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up timestamps: 0:00 Intro 6:32 QB Rankings / Football Talk Starts Here 28:08 New Mock Draft Simulator Feature! 33:41 Guys You Need To Know 1:05:05 Games to Watch this Weekend 1:09:46 Outro Follow us on X:https://x.com/NFLSEshowhttps://x.com/TampaBayTrehttps://x.com/ConnorJRogersWe appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :)For business or other inquiries, reach us at nflseshow@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Seen all the dunes, though.
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Opening Bell, the NFL Stock Exchange.
Show him, Trevor Sinkima, that's Connor Rogers.
Big Mike Allstatt show here today.
You got the Mike Alstatt.
You got the cremseekled Mike Allstead jersey on.
You're putting that stuff on.
And I got a frame right behind me over my left shoulder.
here. So a big Mike Allstock show. If you're not a fan of the A train, then get the hell out of
here. You can get out. We're going to discuss a lot of things on this show. Not just Conner's
wonderful choice in Jersey that he happens to be wearing today, but also we're going to update our
quarterback rankings for the 27 NFL draft. Haven't done that in a couple of weeks. And so I think it's
time for that as well as, man, there have been a lot of new players that we just haven't had the chance
to discuss yet. I really think that specifically over the last two or three weeks of college football,
There have been these guys that, okay, got to get them in there because they're sort of floating around that top 100.
But, Connor, there's a couple of names that are new to our top 50s, maybe even new to the first round projections that we got to get in front of the people here today.
But how you do it, my friend?
I'm good, man.
This is the perfect day for that where you kind of sit back and we've been texting in our group chat with the chef, just throwing names around of like, let's just be dudes talking about players, just dropping names.
you know, like you could just sit around kicking around names.
It's kind of what we want to do on this show.
We will do the quarterback rankings because we have movement.
But we're far away enough from summer scouting that you and I have gotten to watch college
where names will pop where it's like, we didn't talk about that guy or that guy has drastically
kind of changed the perception of himself.
Or maybe it was a guy that, you know, the addicts were shouting out in the chat endlessly
throughout summer scouting and the addicts were right.
And that guy's popping off.
I know I have a name on my list today where I was like, I remember the addicts going,
nuts for this dude and it's time to talk about him so that's what's fun about this and it's just
one of those times where it's it's time to get a feel of like okay who is now entering the draft scene
that maybe wasn't there six weeks ago by the way i saw i caught the the clip of um you and sims
and it was the you you were wearing the jersey today because it's from today's episode and then
he's also wearing a cream sickle jersey but he's wearing his own well okay so it's it's it's
It's the number two.
And I'm like, wait a second, because it's a modern jersey.
It's like the modern cream sickle jerseys that they were selling this year.
And I'm like, wait a second.
Is that Igbuka?
Or is that his own name that's on the back since he also wore number two for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
There it is.
Yeah, there's the image.
Which one was it?
Is it his jersey?
It was his because a couple things.
Number one, Sims and I throughout the season, we pick every game on Fridays.
And we've made it Jersey Friday.
So we've got it.
We encourage the listeners, our control room to follow along with him and I.
And we don't talk to each other about what we're going to wear.
So it was funny.
We both wore Bucks jerseys today after the Bucks had a huge upset win on Thursday night football.
But the Bucks being the really great organization that they are, for their 50th anniversary,
they sent Sims that jersey of it, like of himself.
So that's a Sims jersey for the 50th anniversary with the white creamsicle style.
and I know he went down there for a game when they did everything.
They're really great with their alumni base.
So I know that was really, really cool to him.
And by chance, we ended up wearing both of these today for our Jersey Friday.
The Bucks are an awesome organization.
And I don't think this one-ups sims at all because it's his actual journey, or jersey,
but hold on.
Give me two seconds.
There he goes, folks.
Let's see what he has here.
They sent me this.
That's beautiful.
they sent me in Evans
white cream sickle jersey when they were
debuting these jerseys obviously this is
last year because Evans isn't on the team anymore
but yeah this is
this is really cool of them to do so
shout out to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
they're good to their people
they really are man
I just think it's really cool
when organizations sort of
because for the longest time
it felt like oh it's you know
it's the team versus the media and sometimes
it still does in certain ways but
I think that they've done a pretty good job.
Yeah, of like embracing a lot of the people that have covered the team and
rep the team or just from the area and all that stuff.
So shout out to them, man.
It's one of the coolest gifts that I've ever gotten.
And obviously you had to put that bad boy in the frame immediately.
And one of the coolest jerseys, I think, in NFL history.
I mean, I think of the creamsicle, especially that the white one too.
You know, you think of the powder blues for the chargers.
There's just some jerseys, the Kelly Green for the Eagles to me.
Yeah.
Yeah. There are some that just pop off in NFL history. What is your stance? Can you rank your top three bucks jerseys for me?
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mike evans awesome all right let's get into this let's get into some college football talk here
top 10 quarterbacks.
I don't know how much of an update.
I don't know how much changing of your rankings there were.
There was...
I have changes.
All right, what do we got?
Title wave time.
Did you do it?
Did you do it?
He did it, folks.
I did it.
He did it.
There it is.
I really wanted to do this for the longest time.
For the audio only listeners, he took Archmanning off of his top ten.
I thought you were going to say for the audio listeners, he did it.
with nothing else.
He did it to him.
If you're listening to this, but you can't see it.
He did it.
No, he absolutely did it.
He took Archmanning completely off of his top 10.
He's no longer in there.
Undraftable.
No, he just has Archbending at number two.
But you have CJ Carr at number one.
You move C.J. Carr up the number one on your quarterback rankings.
You got Archmanning at number two.
You have Trinidad at three.
Drew Messonemaker at four.
Still Dante Moore at five.
But I'll let you talk about the rest of your list there.
But yeah.
I think that a lot, I was close.
I was close, but you know what?
We've got the Red River rivalry coming up this weekend.
It's kind of put up or shut up time for Arch when it comes to him holding on to that number one spot.
So I'm giving it one more week in the big rivalry game.
But he definitely needs to step up in this one and look a lot more consistent than he has been.
He has to or else it's not going to be number two for him for me.
Because I think Trinidad and Messamaker can easily surprise.
pass him on my rankings if things don't start to trend the other direction. Obviously,
more is hurt, which makes things very odd for him in terms of rankings. We're waiting to
play some even better teams. I was late to the Austin Simmons party because I know the last
time we did rankings for quarterbacks, which was two weeks ago maybe, shout out to everybody
that was, and I believe you had him on the back end of yours. You know, catching up on him,
he has the potential to be a rocket ship in this class where he comes out and
Nowhere is a guy that wasn't that full season starter and ends up being a big time player.
I mean, he's big, he's got an impressive arm, he's playing at a high level.
He's kept the ball out of harm's way for the most part.
So excited to get him on the rankings and seeing how he really can shoot up these rankings even further.
Once again, for the audio listeners, I did it to him.
No, but in all seriousness, the rankings are CJ Car 1, Archmanning 2, Trinidad Chamblis, 3, Drew Messonemaker, 4, Dante Moore 5, Dary and Mensa 6, Austin Simmons,
a new name. He's at seven and seemingly only with the chance to go higher.
Jaden Mayava's kind of been stuck in this spot for a while at seven or eight spot.
He's at eight for me.
Lenora Sellers still sneaking in there at nine based off of traits.
And that's the same exact thing for Brandon Soresby at 10,
just sneaking in there off of traits.
I guess the other guy that was in the combo to be on the back end here was Drake Lindsay.
But I just think he's,
I don't think he's ready to be in this class yet when I watch him from a like,
speed play processing, getting the tools to match, the physical tools to match the on-field
play on a consistent basis.
But there is a lot to like with him.
I still have Archmanning at number one on my list.
Like I said, it's Oklahoma, Texas week this week.
And it's a big time statement game, I think, for Archmanning, who just kind of like what
we've seen over the second half of last season going into this season, he does some good things.
And then he has some plays where it really makes you scratch your head.
He can play on time incredibly well and in rhythm one second.
And then you can watch him sort of doubt himself and be a step slow to see things or get to a certain progression.
And so he's just, it's one of those quarterbacks.
It's just very frustrating right now.
And you try not to be, you try not to be overly critical of that.
Right.
I think that there's some people, some people have a vision of what a player should be.
And when they don't reach that potential, you almost punish them too much.
Like you're disappointed that they're not reaching their full potential.
But they might be sort of close, right?
They might be just under it.
But you kind of want to be like, man, how could you not have gotten to the level that you,
that you have the potential to get to?
And then you sort of punish them a little bit further for that.
And so you obviously don't want to do that when you're evaluating quarterbacks,
especially guys that you're projecting long,
term, not just exactly what they are right now.
But it's been frustrating for Arch Manning, I think, especially because there were really
good moments three years ago from him when he was a spot starter when Quinn Ewers was still
there.
And we're still dealing with a lot of that stuff.
So, Mick's good and bad from him, but it's a big week for Archmanning.
There's no doubt about it.
I still have Mestemaker at number two on my list.
Trinidad Chamblis is three.
I got C.J. Carr at four.
I was really impressed with C.J. Carr and what he was able to do over the last couple of weeks,
really, again, just showcasing the ability to make these NFL caliber throws, has that NFL
caliber arm strength to him. He's getting more and more comfortable. And as a young quarterback,
that's exactly what he'd want to see. So the arrow definitely pointing up for him. I have Austin
Simmons at number five here. And I think this is an appropriate spot. So honestly, somewhere between
where I have him and where you have him, because you have him at seven and I have him at five.
I think that that should be the sweet spot for Austin Simmons right now
because where I'm very impressed with the overall size,
the NFL level arm strength,
the velocity that he could put on these passes over the middle of the field,
how he's not afraid to throw over the middle of the field.
We saw against Florida, him being willing to work through his entire progressions,
even if it goes to the third or fourth read.
He definitely has that to him.
but I don't think enough people are talking about the fact that when he is pressured,
it falls apart quickly.
Like he is still really struggling to deal with pressure.
And credit to Missouri's overall offensive scheme and their offensive line,
I'll shout out them as well.
They've kept him pretty clean.
But when he does get pressured, there is some crumbling that goes on there.
And it drops off pretty hard for him.
So I've seen people talk about Austin Simmons as a first round player, as a top 20 player,
seeing some conversations.
Yeah, I've seen some crazy stuff.
Yeah, just because obviously he's got a lot of talent.
You talk about him.
And at the quarterback position, if you recognize it having a lot of talent, you go as high as the top 10, top five, number one overall, whatever.
I'm not there yet because I've got to see it when it's not ideal for him.
When it's a clean pocket, man, this kid can look good.
But I can't really put him ahead of the other guys on this.
list quite yet because I've got to see him deal with adversity a little bit better than what we've
seen so far this season. He's got to play more football, Trevor, and he's got to play more big
spot kind of football. And that's how you're able to evaluate these guys. So the fact he's put
himself in this combo on this list for both of us, seventh for me, fifth for you speaks to what he
looks like physically and how he's played this year. But I definitely agree with you that it's a little
Like I will always in season, I think, try it, not pump the brakes, but I'll be a little bit more reserved.
Hey, you're a hater.
I mean, yeah, I was, I was like that with Mendoza for a while.
I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't ready to anoint Mendoza.
For sure.
Yeah, I was with you.
And to his credit, I mean, he totally changed the outlook of him.
And then I was ready to, going back to the combo of what you said, where we talked, I forget
who we were talking about, like maybe with guys that you, guys that have a lot of hype and they
don't meet expectations and you overcorrect. I think once upon a time I did that with Justin Herbert.
I remember and that's going way back. But Herbert had hype as the guy, like number one overall
pick kind of guy. Right. And it felt like a little bit of a surprise when he went back for his
senior year. And it was a bumpy road at times. And Herbert's a weird player to talk about right now.
he's played well this year, quite frankly.
But there's no denying that Herbert's a franchise quarterback.
Like he, that was the right pick.
But I think I was guilty of that his prospect trajectory,
maybe being a little too harsh on him after what the expectations were set as.
So somebody in the chat was talking about having Oth Simmons above a quarterback like Jaden
Myava.
And when you look at Jaden Mayaba, both of us have him in our top 10, the quarterback from USC,
but we have him at number eight.
You have Simmons at seven, and I have Austin Simmons at five.
And my response to that is simply that I think that Jade Maaba, who I think from an efficiency
standpoint, you could look at him and say, man, there's few quarterbacks in the country that do
it better.
I mean, maybe Dary and Mentsa, although the Clemson game wasn't great for Dary and Mensa,
but hey, I feel like it's those two guys that the ball always goes where it needs to.
They're great when it comes to touch passes.
I feel like they can understand what the defense is going to do pretty great.
But for both of those guys, I think it's the same issue.
And that's why I've got them right next to each other at 7 and 8.
There's only so far I feel like I can bring you up this list
when I have this big of question marks of your overall arm strength.
Because again, we're not talking about guys who we'd be picking to win college football games.
Myava, I think just the way he plays the game, the football IQ is processing,
the touch, the natural accuracy, all that kinds of stuff.
And you can say the same thing for Mensa.
And I'd pick those guys to win a college.
college football game any day.
Of course.
When you get to the NFL level, you kind of have to have the arm to be able to get out
of trouble because even the best in the NFL, the guys who are the best processors in the
NFL, they still have those moments every game where you've got to have the physical
ability to get out of trouble.
It can either be athletic ability when it comes to escapeability, avoiding pressure,
getting out of the pocket, making things happen outside of structure, or just straight up,
uh, okay, you know, this isn't exactly what I thought it was going to be.
post snap, but I see this little window right here.
I didn't think I was going to throw this ball, but here we go.
And you're just, you're just firing it in there to your guy to see if they can make a
play.
And when I look at Mensa and Maiava, these are two players who, when things are on time,
and when I say on time, I simply mean in the time in which they think they're going
to see things, when they think their receivers are going to be open and when they can
anticipate very well, it's a very pretty game.
But do they have that physical arm talent to get out of trouble?
I worry a little bit about that.
And that's why I have some of these guys where maybe not as consistent right now at the college level,
I have faith in them and their ceiling to become that at the pro level a little bit more than I do with Ments and Miava.
I think just the way that I wrap it up is saying that their margin for error as quarterbacks because of the way that their armed talent is makes them very small margin for error players.
And you don't want to make a living betting on those guys.
There are things to like, and sometimes you do bet on them,
but you don't want to make a living betting on those kinds of profiles.
Yeah, I'm with you all the way.
I've pretty much just remained stagnant
since I evaluated these guys over summer and where I've had them here.
And, you know, they can win mentally and with precision and touch.
But I just, you do wonder the overall physical profile from athletic mobility to arm strength.
Is there a wall there that the guys ahead of them
don't have, which is funny because people will be like, well, Trinidad's small,
but I never watched Trinidad and go,
hey, he just doesn't have the arm for that throw.
Like, I don't watch him like that.
You know, back to C.J. Carr, he throws such a good deep ball.
He's impressive at the line of scrimmage pre-snap with what they put on his plate.
I think coming into the year, the big question we had with Carr was,
is he just going to be along for the ride?
And then you watch the UNC game, and the Notre Dame defense didn't make,
didn't make that an option. CJ Carr had to go win them the game. So I think there's going to be a lot of
moments for CJ Carr to do that. And I think the way he plays the position and how he can play
with rhythm and timing and accuracy and throw different pitches and mentally processed pressure.
And his sack rate is really low for a reason going back to last year. I don't know what the
ceiling is for Carr. But the way he plays the position, I think he's given himself such a good
foundation to be an NFL starter.
Yeah, I agree.
Carr has definitely been impressed.
This has been a really nice start to the year for him.
Staying at a question in the chat saying,
how many of these guys on the list have another year eligibility left?
And, Chef, can you pull up the list again?
Because I think I know off the top of my head which guys have eligibility.
So Arch does, C.J. Carr does.
Drew Mestemaker does.
Austin Simmons.
Myava is only a redshirt, too.
so I think he does as well.
Julian is saying, okay.
I think so, or is he a redshirt senior?
No, I think he's a redshirt senior.
Is he?
Okay, so maybe he was a redshirt junior last year.
But Drake Lindsay has another year of eligibility,
and then Julian saying has another year of eligibility as well.
So basically the guys who don't have eligibility left,
Trinidad Chamberlis would be up after this year.
Dante Moore is up after this year.
Darien Mentz is up after this year?
No, Mentson was only a rich.
No, you had it.
that's where you had it flipped.
Mensa's the, I think, a redshirt junior.
Myava's a redshirt senior.
So Trinidad, Dante Moore, Jaden Mayava, those guys don't have eligibility left.
But the rest of the top 10 for both of us do have eligibility left.
Well, I guess you have Sorsby.
So Sorsby wouldn't have eligibility left.
He's going to go into the draft.
Let me put you on the spot, which is maybe unfair to do.
But you're a good sport and we're good friends.
so I know you won't be mad at me.
Where do you think we're at?
Because you said Arch technically does have one more year left, right?
Even though he's a senior?
Or is that not right?
I thought Arch is a redshirt junior.
Right, that's what I thought.
I think he can come, yeah, he can come back.
He can go back, yeah.
This is the problem.
School websites are so confusing.
Like Texas's actual official school page says senior this year, but I think he has a year of eligibility left.
Yeah, I mean, he redshirted.
He redshirted his freshman year.
He only played in two games.
Right.
Where, like, where would you set the percentages of him even being in this class?
If things stay exactly the way they've been.
Um, 70, 30 that he declares first that he goes back.
Yeah.
I think it's fair.
Okay.
I think that's fair.
Maybe 80, 20.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm definitely thinking he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,
declares but I'm just saying like what's the world or the how does the door open that we have
this combo again people in the chat are saying that Dante more has eligibility left I think
he does oh he has one more year because the year he played at UCLA wasn't he a true freshman
he was yeah so that's why okay but he started oh okay so yeah he redshirted his sophomore year
when he was at Oregon.
Because he played as a true freshman of UCLA.
Then he was a true sophomore.
Then he was a redshirt sophomore last year.
You basically just look at it as five years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't realize that he had a redshirt year in there.
I thought that he had played that season.
Welcome to this world of college football.
Yeah, I guess Dante Moore does have an extra year of eligibility.
So it looks like the only guys on the list that are out would be Trinidad and Miava.
everybody else could be back i mean trinidad we know cannot go back to school
i can't in a way in court i can't in all good conscience and say that anymore i can't say
that about any player including if you played in the nfl i can't say this you know i know
who's to say j j j j mccarthy can't go back right who's to michigan needs a quarterback
who's who is to say that j j j mccarthy can't go back to michigan right now
Now, who's probably a way to do it.
I mean, it's the old Motore thing, right?
The Miami linebacker right now who played in games for Rutgers in 2019.
I mean, that's incredible.
This man was playing in college football before the pandemic was ever even a thought.
I feel like the pandemic was 25 years ago.
Yeah, before peak war zone hadn't even peaked yet.
It was just in beta.
This guy was playing Prime Fortnite and college football at the same time.
And we're still talking about him.
And he's still playing college football on a team that can go to the national title.
Unbelievable.
That's amazing.
The last guy that I'll shout out here before we move on to some new players,
because we got a lot that I want to talk about today.
Nico I Amalejava from UCLA.
He barely did not make my top 10.
I've watched some of his recent games and he was kind of right on the cusp for me here.
I Amaliava does things really well.
If you're,
if you've been a fan of the show and you've been watching us for a couple of years now,
go back to summer scouting that we had not this past year,
but the year before.
And I still had Nico amongst all the struggles and when he was in the headlines of
how we moved from Tennessee to UCLA.
The Tennessee version.
Yeah.
But I mean,
you watch him.
He's just oozing with arm talent.
I mean, he's got armed talent for.
case, man. He's got the multi-sport background with the volleyball background, and you can see that because he's like a true dual threat type of a quarterback. But man, this dude can absolutely rip it to the sideline outside the numbers over the middle. He's got armed talent. But even with his good throws that there are plenty of over the last couple of weeks, there are definitely those moments where, you know, true ball placement, true accuracy, and then those moments where I still just watch him hesitate. Like even if a throw to the sideline ends up being a
completion you might watch and go, oh, wow, good to find that receiver on the sideline.
But when I'm watching it through an NFL lens, I will watch him in the pocket almost like
hesitate and like pump fake a little bit and the footwork gets a little bit erratic and impatient.
It's almost like he second guesses himself.
I need that second guessing to get out of here because I feel like that has been an issue for
Nico for the last couple of seasons.
And it has seemed to get less frequent over the years, which is obviously what you want to see.
but any quarterback that sort of has some of those second guessing and that doubt in their head,
I just get worried about when it comes to projecting them to the NFL level where these NFL
defense coordinators and players, man, they can make your life hell and you better be playing
with confidence or you're not going to be able to do what you need to do with the pro.
So I think he's having a good year.
I think he's kind of right there on the cusp of my top 10, but I just still saw a little bit of
hesitancy from him to put him in that 10 spot.
Yeah, I mean, he's always had the tools.
That's why he was a big time recruit,
and he had really, really highlights at Tennessee,
like higher-end moments.
It's just always been the decision-making.
And I don't even know, Trevor, if it's actually,
when we say decision-making, we think of mistakes.
But I agree with you,
where I think it's the overall processing of the game
to catch up to the tools.
And that's something I kind of said earlier
about Drake Lindsay, but Drake Lindsay's a younger player.
And I don't, I don't see as many of those high variance moments with Lindsay.
With Nico, obviously, that's been the case going back, you know, going back to Tennessee.
But I do think quietly last year, because I did a tape breakdown on him for NBC last year.
I was like, he's quietly improving at UCLA.
It's just nobody was paying attention because of the state of UCLA and that it was the way
everything went down for him.
And, you know, this is obviously another opportunity on a team that I think is much better than people expected.
I mean, they're going to have, he's going to have his moments on, on bigger stages, of course, this year with the way they're playing.
Like, they're going to, uh, the big one will be obviously ending the year.
I think it's Black Friday or the weekend after Thanksgiving when they host USC.
So, you know, he'll be one of those guys that, like his workouts will be.
be impressive to teams.
Yeah.
And teams always take a chance on guys with tools.
That's very true.
It's very true.
All right.
That is the quarterback round up there for us.
We got a lot of players that we got to get to here as these sort of new shoutouts that
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It's incredible, man.
The, you know, I was laughing at a comment from Special Eddie.
He said it's built better than Madden.
I was thinking of what 10-year-old me was, would, I would live on this thing.
I mean, I'll live on it anyway right now, but unfortunately, it's our careers.
But 10-year-old me and me and you have talked about this, we would get Madden and just draft
the whole league from scratch in dynasty mode.
That was always the way to do it.
having this thing with the UDFA process.
It also makes me so excited for what it's going to look like in March and April
when, of course, we do our seven-round charity mock simulator.
By then we have a real feel.
You and I are working through day three to UDFA kind of players of what the inventory
will look like on this thing.
Yeah.
And shout to everybody.
Sorry, Trevor, to cut you off.
Shout to everybody that's tagged us in tweets, like loving it and doing your own content
with it.
It's been really cool to see immediately.
Yeah, yeah, which, by the way, Chuck in the chat is reminding me
as something that I forgot to shout out about it.
If you create an account, which all you have to do to create an account is just throw
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You can sort of customize the way that the mock draft simulator looks.
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It's a lot of fun. We'd love to keep doing this stuff with you guys. All right, let's get into it.
to get into these new players.
Connor, which player do you want to shout out first here to the good people?
I want to start with Iowa tight end DJ Benami.
I mean, this is one of the guys I was talking about, the Riggler badge, by the way.
Unbelich.
I see that in the chat.
I don't even know how you get that.
Maybe you got to absolutely just either take advantage of a trade or maybe it's,
maybe it's you draft a player who's like way higher on the big board, but somehow he's available
before you at a certain spot.
Yeah, so, but it's something you can get a player.
That by consensus, there's like a 50 spot difference.
That's how you get the regular badge.
Like, hey, this was a second round guy.
Why was he available in my simulated mock draft in the fourth round?
While I got him, I get the regular badge.
DJ Benami.
This is somebody who I brought and I brought, we did the tight end show.
We did that show pretty early in the summer scouting process.
I did not get to see for that show.
and he's really, I think, come on in the last two weeks, especially.
He had some moments in the Michigan game.
He had a lot of receiving production, even though it kind of turned into a blowout
against Ohio State.
The way they use him, you see some Shanahan-esque kind of motions and utilization,
where he can play on the line of scrimmage,
but they can actually use him as a receiving threat off the line of scrimmage.
You can motion him into the backfield.
and then have him run out into the flat.
He's a really, really good athlete, man,
where everything is so sudden, where he can separate.
It's smooth.
He's got quick feet, his stop and start, the agility.
The routes are really sharp for his age and position.
And when you're that kind of athlete,
it's fun to watch him, you know,
make things happen after the catcher at the ball on his hand.
So this is someone that you see it right there,
Redshirt sophomore.
We'll see ultimately what his decision comes down,
and where his production lands at.
Because like I said,
the production has gone up a notch.
It feels like the last two games.
And I do think for how athletic he is,
he is still developing as a run blocker.
Like in those zone concepts,
in those split zone kind of concepts,
his ability on the move gives me a lot of hope
that he's going to be an acid in that area.
But he's still a younger player,
getting bigger and stronger and refining hand placement
and everything like that.
But this is someone when you look at the new age tight end,
that every team is kind of chasing.
He checks a lot of the boxes that teams are kind of looking for
for those multi-alignment versions of this position.
Yeah, so I didn't have time to get to him.
I knew that he was going to be on your list.
So I knew that you were going to be able to talk about him,
which is good because I've had a couple of people reach out to me talking about him.
And when I watched him over the summer, definitely recognize the athleticism.
But it's a little bit of a fine line like, okay, are you a new age tight end?
or are you somebody who's just kind of like an athlete that doesn't really like the physical parts of the game
and are you going to get washed out and not be able to really separate or make a difference at the NFL level?
I kind of wondered if it was a little bit of the latter with him.
Sure.
But that was from the tape that I saw of him as a red shirt freshman.
So now him as a red shirt sophomore, it already feels like even just from afar what I've seen live and in highlights and game recaps and things like that.
He looks more advanced than what he's doing, yet still just as experienced.
and so really exciting player that I'm glad that you shouted out here.
The first guy that I want to get to, Zero-A Williams, I believe is how you say his name,
I believe it's Zero-A.
Offensive tackle from Utah.
Brother, how did they have this guy sitting behind Spencer Fano and Caleb Lomo?
I do not know.
He is extremely unique in his background.
and sort of what we are seeing here for his first season as a full-time starter.
He's listed at 6'8, 305 pounds.
He is a 6th year player.
This is it for him.
He is done after this season.
It's his first season as a full-time starter in college football,
and he is done after this season.
So check the math on that one.
So again, that's, like the fact that Spencer Fano,
who was a true junior last year,
and Caleb Lomu, who is a true, like a red shirt sophomore,
these guys are both starting over Williams,
and I can understand maybe why,
but it's so funny watching how good this guy is.
I mean, I almost think that this guy's like Mike McGlinchy, like right now.
And it's crazy to say that.
But let me give you a little bit.
Let me give you a little bit of his background here.
So he was a four star, three slash four star offense tackle,
depending on where you were looking,
from Phoenix, Arizona,
played basketball for almost all of his high school career until his senior year
when finally they were like, hey man, you're a giant.
You should probably just like try football and see if teams are interested in you.
And he did.
And like the scholarships just came flooding in for him in football.
Basketball, I got the stats.
You want the stats?
I got the stats.
I love the stats.
As a senior, he was a center slash power forward.
Oh, I'm shocked at 6'8 in high school?
Wow.
No, he's a point card.
Yeah, I mean, that would have been cooler, the new Wemby or the old Wembe.
Just over eight points per game, okay?
12 over 12 rebounds per game.
And then four and a half blocks per game.
This man's a SWAT factory.
This is nuts.
Four and a half blocks per game, even as a high schooler.
So he committed to Utah.
And I wondered if like, okay, like, did he take some time off for football?
like how are we just now hearing about this player he played in two games in red shirt in 2021 he played
in 13 games in 22 he didn't play in 2023 and i couldn't find out why i think he got hurt i didn't see
an injury designation because he got hurt the next year he played in eight games and had a knee injury
in 24 and i found that part but i didn't really find out why he didn't play in 2023 i got to think
it's because he got hurt but i couldn't really find anything i'll try to find some more while you're
talking about him he played in
13 games last season and he started the one game, the bowl game at the end of the season when
Fano and Lomu didn't play in this one.
Connor, I think that this kid's got all the talent in the world.
I genuinely believe that.
He looks the part of an NFL offensive lineman, not just being six foot eight, but he's got
the frame that's very filled out for a six foot eight guy.
Obviously, you look at him and he's a little lean for an offensive tackle, but it's because
he's got that height to him.
The arm length matches the height.
He knows how to use his arm length despite not playing at all over the last five years.
His anticipation was good.
How he was able to mirror his footwork in his hands.
How he was always making contact with the long arm to be the first player to make contact
and dictate so many reps that I watch from him.
He's a really nice athlete getting out of his stance.
I think he has excellent core strength and balance to dish out and take contact.
Despite the fact that he's 6'8, he doesn't have this.
like browned back or like hunched over type of pre-snap stance.
He's very much got as flat of a back as he can, ready to take all sorts of contact and
have great balance.
He's very conscious of his hands to avoid holding calls.
There were times when, dude, they're running like outside zone or the quarterbacks.
Devin Dampier is like escaping right behind him and he's engaged with the defensive tackle
and it's almost kind of like he feels it or sort of sees the defense in front of him
flow.
So he's like, okay, either the back or the quarterback's kind of coming right behind.
behind me and you'll see him like he'll give the defensive lineman a little extra power and then
he'll let the hands go to avoid the holding call. I'm like, dude, how is this your first year as
a starter? We've got four year starters in college that don't know how to do that, that don't have
that sort of awareness for what you're supposed to do and how to avoid those kinds of calls.
He's not a mauler in the run game, but I really like his first step and he tries to keep that
pad level as low as he can. And when he uses that first step to convert that speed to power,
give you a little bit of pop now you know is the leg drive going to carry people down the field no but
he'll give you a little bit of pop and he knows how to wall off defenders as well so the the size alone
can be engulfing and tough to get around in pass protection but then you pair it with the fact that
he's got long strides and a long step in his kick slides he uses his long arms and his hands really
well this dude is tough to get around and i watch him and i just go man this dude feels so much like
Mike McGlinchy when he was coming out in Notre Dame, what he could be in the NFL.
And obviously, that's high praise for a player that has not started for the better part
of the last six years.
But I just, I can't tell you how impressed I was with this player and how excited I am to
continue to watch him this year.
I mean, the fact they just had this guy behind those two talents and the fact that he's
been developing there for this long.
and you know one thing about because he's listed 6-8305 i found this on twitter from
steve bartle who you know uh covers utah it appears he said that um they were told like
the utah media was told that williams reached 331 pounds at one point this summer
while remaining below while remaining below 26% body fat so i'm sure he's not 331 right now
but to be way up from that 305 probably is also helping him on the field a lot too.
I think that that would be, yeah, they got him listed at 305.
Yeah, it's just probably not updated.
Yeah, I bet he looks like it's a lot close and plays like it's a lot close to 315.
So that's what I would bet he is at.
That is just, yeah, it's wild.
These late bloomers, man.
One pressure allowed this season on 125 pass blocking snaps.
one pressure not sack one pressure no he's not allowing literally anything he is uh yeah he's a great
fine he's incredible fine by you and very impressive very interesting player in this tackle class all right
who's next for you uh for me next is jaday abasiri the defensive lineman on u sc who is a junior
right now so no lock that he's in this class six five two 80
plays the interior for them.
Pretty impressive athlete.
When you watch USC,
I think he's one of the guys
that stands out to make run stops.
And, you know,
when you watch him on the interior,
there's no denying.
He's got that lighter build.
What I saw with Abysiri,
Trevor,
through a couple weeks here,
is somebody that with his kind of athleticism,
he does a really good job
flowing with,
against the ball on those outside
runs. Like he can really get to the sideline. He can make offensive linemen on the move work
and stay off blocks against, you know, really the sideline to sideline kind of runs.
I think when the run game gets going north and south, especially against better teams,
when you're 280 on the interior of the defensive line, you know, it can be pretty hard to hold
the point of attack and hold up against those north and south runs. It feels like he's playing
defensive tackle by default for USC right now.
But when I look at his body type,
I almost wonder if he's kind of one of these big ends
that it can be a little bit scheme versatile
or really front versatile,
where there are certain packages where, hey,
we're in more of a pass rush package.
You're going to play more of an interior kind of rush role.
But on early downs,
he's not playing like a three tech or a shade nose
at the NFL level.
You're going to like him more outside.
So he's an interesting player to watch right now because his development curve is obviously still, you know, he still has a lot of time and he's made a lot of progress, I think, already going into this year.
But just the athlete up front that he is is what makes him very, very intriguing.
And I believe they recruited him all the way from Minnesota, not the most conventional pathway for this USC program.
He was a pretty big time recruit in Minnesota.
And they're starting to do that a little bit more.
You know, they've reached into New Jersey for some higher-end players as well.
It's not the USC we grew up watching where they just got all the best kids from California.
I actually saw that he was from Minnesota.
And I really did, I pictured it in my head, you know, him going to high school,
maybe single-digit degree weather, his senior year.
And he's just like, I'm getting out of him.
I'm going to go to you.
The USC.
I'm going to the sun.
I don't know.
I try to get him to play high.
I don't ever want to put a long sleeve and then a jacket and then another jacket on ever again.
No.
He's like, I'm not even thinking about this.
And then, you know, I know I talked a lot of a lot about him as a run defender.
You know, but once again, one of those guys that can be that kind of when you're 280 once again playing on the interior.
Like he's got the movement to try to shoot gaps or swivel his way through gaps.
But I think a lot of the rest of the rush is still.
work in progress to me. You and I see this player completely eye to eye. And that's why I actually have
him categorized as a three four defensive end. I have him as a player who is a four eye primarily,
who can play as a five technique for you if you need him to. He can kick inside and play three technique
if you need him to. But Abissary's best ability is his versatility, I think. And it really is.
And he's built that way. He lacks a little bit of sand in the pants when it comes okay if you
want to play him as a three technique full time.
And I don't really think that he's got the hand usage to be a one-on-one pass rush
winner like you would want from a three or a four three defense event who's in one-on-one
situations quite a bit.
But the versatility is definitely valuable.
He wrestled in high school.
He also competed in track and field.
So he's got the multi-sport background.
But, you know, the size, the arm length, the effort, I think is all really there for
him.
And he's got the tools.
He's got the build to be a very versatile player.
There's just some things where it's like, I wonder if he gets.
gets to the NFL and maybe a true odd front team will be okay with him sort of around the weight
that he's at, maybe gaining a little bit more strength than just playing at that four eye
technique in an odd front defense. Or maybe are they going to want to say, hey, we want you a little
closer to 300 pounds. Let's get you up to 290, 2.95. We'll play a three tech a little bit more
or maybe lose a little bit of weight, try to really teach the hand technique stuff because
specifically when I was watching, I was like, man, if, because he's got a great, he's got a great
bowl rush. He's got a good long arm and he's got a nice kind of stack and shed like a push pull,
but I didn't see nearly enough like swipes or like a club arm over or like a club rip or something
like that. I wanted to see more like hand swipe moves from him. And if you get a little bit more
that, maybe he can become a one-on-one winner. But you and I, I think, saw this player very similarly.
There's value in who he is, but just, you know, how much value? I think that that's maybe going to be
up for debate.
right and i think that you know there was one rep i think against fresno where they had him rush off the end
and he dipped his shoulder and rushed really low for an inside move and it was almost an instant
wind to disrupt the quarterback it was one of those like it was like it was really clean and he just
looked like an athlete off the edge but that's not you know where they're going to play him obviously
a lot but in that situation it's a passing down situation let me see what it was that was a
second and 12.
So they were like, all right, let's kick him outside.
He's actually, you know, really wide, almost in like, not a wide nine, but he's got a big runway.
And he can kind of cross the face of the tackle on an island.
So it's always the conversation of, are you a man without a position?
Are you a valuable hybrid?
Yeah, right.
And it's a very hard line, a very delicate line to walk.
Let's talk about another edge rusher that I think has been getting a lot of,
a lot of pub lately.
And that's Alabama edge rusher.
Devin Tompkins. And I say edge rusher sort of hesitantly because, man, this is another player who's
huge. I mean, he is listed right around 6 foot 5 and 300 pounds. I mean, this dude is massive.
I think that some places I've seen, you know, 290, 25, but, you know, some places list him at
300. This is a big dude. And when you look at somebody who's 6 foot 5, 300 pounds, you go,
okay, okay, you're three technique or, you know, at the very least, you know, you're probably that
three, four defensive end. Alabama lines him up this year at true edge rusher, like sometimes
outside linebacker edge rusher, which I love.
Stance even. So it's very unique seeing a player who is listed at that size and weight,
playing the alignment that he is, but I think he carries the weight super well. He looks
at really athletic for a player that, again, is carrying those kinds of measurables. He's a three-star
defensive lineman from California.
Also mainly played basketball.
He played basketball up until, funny enough, we have two of these players.
Zeroy Williams, I talked about like this, but Devin Tompkins also mainly just played
basketball until his senior year of high school.
And then he played football and he got scholarships in football.
Basketball, I got the stats.
You know I got the stats.
Now you always have the stats.
Eight rebounds per game.
And he played that power forward position, which when you watch him, I think.
I think it's easy to see that one year that he played high school football.
He played defensive line and he played tight end.
He committed a USC, played in one game in 2023, one, two games in 20, or one game in 22,
two games in 2023, played 13 games with six starts in 2024.
And then he wasn't a starter.
He was only a rotational player in 2025 from what I could find.
They transferred to Alabama this year.
He's been a starter for them.
And he has been a standout player.
Obviously, the overall size at the edge rush your spot, fantastic.
know, those measurables would be like 80th percentile, 90th percentile when it comes to
height, weight. And I think the arm length definitely matches him as well. He's got the size and the
skill set to be able to play anything from a three technique to a five technique with decent success.
I think the arm length is a huge advantage for him and he knows it too. So many times I watched
him get off the ball and he is leading with outstretched arms. So there are players who have long
arms, but if you don't know what to do with it, sometimes it just doesn't.
matter. This guy has the long arms. He absolutely knows what to do with it. I think he's developed a really
nice inside move. He pairs that with good footwork. He's got a lot better ankle flexibility than you would
think for a player. Again, carrying 300 pounds. And I think that's just the overall theme of Devin
Tompkins as you watch him and you see the measurables and you go, all right, this guy gets off the
ball and he bends a little bit better than you would expect for a player who's carrying that kind of weight.
I think the buildup speed is more buildup than it is necessarily twitchy,
but you would expect that again at his weight.
And he will be one of the older prospects in the class.
But again, you want to talk about Abasari being a versatile player who can play both inside and out.
I like Devin Tompkins more sort of we're talking about that role and that vision for a player
because I've actually watched Devin Tompkins have a home base this past year at Edgerusher
and win one-on-one.
So I like him more than I like Abbasari,
but I thought it was good to get those guys back to back
because Tompkins has a similar profile,
but he's even a little bit bigger,
and yet he's a little bit more fluid
and a little bit better of an athlete
with more of a pass rush profile too.
I lean the same way,
I'd rather have the jumbo-sized edge
because I think there's a baseline there,
typically than the tweener interior guy.
Now, there's been some special tweener interior guys
that it's worked over the course of time.
But there's also been a lot that you get excited about in each draft class
and they kind of tread water or go into the abyss
because it's just really, really hard when you go into the arena
and the opposing guard is 325 and even the center is 305.
And then you're dealing with defending against duo run concepts.
And they know what they're doing too.
Like a lot of times if you find guys at the college level
who are like that NFL size,
there's not a guarantee they know what they're doing.
Sometimes they're just big.
But in the NFL, like you mentioned,
if I ask you to kick inside,
you're not just going up against somebody
who has that size that's much bigger than you.
They also know what they're doing with that size,
which makes it difficult to stand out.
All right, one more from me here.
I'm going to go with, we have a couple players,
but we'll keep rolling them out throughout the week.
I'm going to go with Turbo Richard from Indiana.
Insane name.
Insane name.
Turbo Richard from Indiana.
Tell me if you've heard this before, Indiana working through the transfer portal to go get an impact player.
I have heard that before.
Yeah, you've heard that before.
So Turbo Richard goes from BC to Indiana.
My kind of running back build for the most part at 5'9, well over 200 pounds of pure muscle.
I mean, Indiana just finds these guys when you think of Kalin Black.
and how jacked he was.
And, like, this guy runs really, really hard,
but he's got enough finesse to his game.
You saw the chat?
I just saw the chat.
I mean, it's right there.
We can't repeat it because it's a family show,
but it has to do with the name Turbo Richard.
It has to do with the name Turbo Richard.
You guys can kind of figure it out with yourself.
hanging in the air
with wings on it, just waiting
for somebody to slam at home.
And it turns out everybody
decided to slam at home at once.
So
Turbo Richard,
I have not heard
his teammates or friends call him
Dick yet, but Turbo
Richard, man,
he's been on fire for Indiana. And yet
their schedule's been really, really light.
But when you just watch this
guy run, the mistackles
that he can create
because he's got really agile
feet he's got wow dog interference
but show I love that
yeah we got uh
yeah let's say hello I don't want stopping down
little little little Rue wanted to get in on the show
hello Rue
little Rue wanted to get in Rue's like what about me
Marvel Marvel would not do this
Rue is about the camera
no I can't in the action
I can't have Marvel my other dog
I can't have marble in the room when I'm doing
show because if the Amazon guy even comes into a half mile vicinity.
It's over.
We're getting barks nonstop.
It's all that's in on the show.
Well, Rue heard Turbo Richard talk and was like, yeah, I won in on this right now.
So Turbo Richard, man, I did a breakdown on his film for NBC this week.
And once again, is the level of competition not crazy?
Yeah.
Now, he did have plenty of really good tape against Northwestern.
He's got really good vision and patience.
I think he, when he gets to the second level,
he knows how to make a defender miss in the open field
and then re-accelerate.
And he's got that muscular upper body
that when he's re-accelerating,
tacklers can bounce off of him.
And one of my favorite things,
they don't really use him a lot as a receiver,
but he can pass protect.
There was a play against Northwestern
where he identified a blitzing offball linebacker right up the middle,
met him in the hole, square shoulders, lower body strength, leverage,
stopped him in his track.
So Turbo Richard, is he, you know, a Ferrari in this running back class or like Jaden Ball?
No, but when we're looking for these day three value guys or early day three value guys
that do a lot of the little things the right way and can create their own yards as well,
he's really, really stood out this year.
I've only caught...
A fantastic name.
I've only caught some of the highlights from him,
so I need to sit down and really go over the full tape for him.
But anytime you're running back with the name Turbo,
and you've got to build that's 5 foot 9, 207 pounds,
like I'm probably going to be in, you know?
So I'll actually just...
He's just sell of all time.
Blindly believe you,
and he's going straight into the top 50 on the mock draft simulator, too.
I mean, he's got to be there with it.
name like that. Yeah. And as
FFB for real said, always finds the hole.
So good vision,
just a really smart player.
Turbo Richard. Turbo Richard.
Okay, last guy that will shout out here today.
Samson Okunlola,
the offensive tackle from Miami. And again, you want to talk about
guys they had waiting in the wings. He had Francis Malinoa.
He had Markell Bell. And now Okunlola is
starting at left tackle for the Miami Hurricanes this year.
He's a redshirt junior.
He's listed six foot six, about 330 pounds.
And so he's got the bill to be able to play tackle or guard.
Going into the season, I hadn't watched him.
But when people sort of were like, hey, you got to get eyes on this guy once the season starts,
there were some mixed reviews of, okay, I think he's a guard long term.
I think he's a tackle long term.
But he was a four-star offense, a tackle prospect.
Also competed in shot put and discus in track when he was in high school.
played in three games in redshirted in
in 2023, which is his first year,
played in 13 games in 2024,
played in 16 games with only one start last season
as those other two guys were starting at offensive tackle.
There are plenty of things to like for a player
who I've seen in first round mock drafts now over the last couple of weeks.
And I can see the potential for it.
I really can't.
Overall, really good size to handle power at the pro level.
If those measurables hold,
obviously those are really good numbers for them
for offensive tackle, that would be 61st percentile in height, 86th percentile in overall weight.
He's really nimble on his feet.
When that ball is snapped, I mean, you could see it.
Man, he is on his toes.
Those feet are moving quick.
And something that this is an area where when we talk about, okay, well, okay, you're on your feet,
you're lighting your feet.
What does that really matter for an offensive tackle?
Because wouldn't you want to be a little bit heavier, right?
So you can anchor a little bit more, so you kind of get on your heels.
Yes, I think there's certainly some technique to that.
but here's one example that I saw from Okulola
who was really good at this
and it's because he's got really quick feet.
Countering inside moves.
Which game was it?
I think it was, was it that Clemson game?
I think it was that Clemson game that I was watching
where the ball is snapped
and he's one-on-one with the edge rusher
and he gets out of his stance very quickly.
Now, I will say this about him.
Where I understand the guard projection possibilities for him,
he doesn't really have those long,
kick slides. You know, like the groin flexibility. I wonder if it's not quite there for him because it's not
like this guy, you know, gets out of his stance and really fires in one direction to hit an aiming point to
really be able to be an edge rusher to the outside if they're trying to get a speed rush to the
outside shoulder. He is much more of. That was Mark Al Bell, too. It was, you know who it was a lot of
that I sort of got shades of was Talise Fuonga. Remember Fuanga was very much like, ball came out and he's not
big stretching to
reach the landmark.
He was chopping his feet
like very, very quickly and very
athletically, but he was a nimble big
man. He reminds me a lot of
how Buaga does that, but
there's some pros and cons to it, but the
pros certainly are, if
you are constantly chopping your feet
and you are balanced as you are moving and you
are shuffling, I watch the
edge rusher try to pull an inside move
on him, and I'm going to get a lot. The inside
move was timed up very well. It was
clean, the hitting that outside foot and immediately crossing the face.
I thought he was going to win.
But because of how balanced and how on his toes, Okolola was,
he was able to put his outside foot in the ground and immediately pivot his entire body weight.
And he already had his inside hand up to be ready for it to catch the player on their
inside move and totally neutralized it.
That's the stuff that we talk about having nimble feet for an offensive tackle.
True mirroring.
staying in front of an edge rusher where they are there going inside or out,
that's the advantageous part of that.
But on a little bit of a drawback side for him,
because I like the overall athleticism.
I think he's good when he's in space.
He's a good zone blocking offensive tackle, in my opinion.
He doesn't really have those movements that you kind of want to see from your NFL
offensive tackle when it comes to the longer kick slides to reach the landing marks without
being super stressed about it.
he's very high in his pre-snap stance,
and I think that just comes from maybe a little bit of lack of flexibility
with his shoulders or his lower back,
but he just plays the very high pad level at all times.
And he's not really a people mover in the run game.
That's disappointing.
He can wall guys off,
but for a player who's 3.30,
you'd like to see them move guys down the field,
but Connor, it kind of comes down to that pad level is high.
So when he engages with a defensive,
of linemen and if they're underneath them and they've got the leverage, if he's trying to push him,
you can't drive your legs.
The low man wins.
You can't drive your legs because you don't have that.
You don't have that lower power to be able to fork lift guys and be able to push him back.
And he doesn't have that ability right now.
So a really nice athlete for his size overall, I can see the projections.
And I'm a little torn right now of whether I think offensive tackle or offensive guard may be
best for him long term.
But somebody who is playing some really good ball and definitely deserves a shout out
and is one of the better offensive linemen overall that I've seen in this class.
Yeah, I got to catch up on him.
I'm excited to see Miami's schedule really turn, too.
Like, that's, I need to pull up their schedule.
But I mean, obviously, the Notre Dame game on November 7th is going to be out of this world.
But I think we saw UNC's offense put up a pretty good fight against Notre Dame.
We're going to see, you know, what Florida State can do.
They have Pitt.
And those are the three matchups before.
they go to South Bend.
So,
let's touch on a couple of the big games that we got
coming up this weekend.
Well, actually, before we do,
a couple of players that I had watched that are at least,
we didn't have time to get to him today,
but I'm adding them to the predictive board
so you guys can mock draft with these guys.
Xavier Gilliam from Tennessee,
who's been one of the best run defenders
in the entire country to start the season.
Francis Brew from Notre Dame,
one of the strongest players,
all of college football.
We already had Lance Hurd in there from Kentucky,
but he's having a good year and his arrow is trending in the right direction.
And then Jordan Faison, the wife's here from Notre Dame,
who's man putting on a show with C.J. Carr.
He's on the receiving end of a lot of really good C.J. Car passes.
So those guys all in the mock draft simulator,
didn't have time to get to him today,
but just wanted to shout him out there as well.
Perfect.
What to watch this weekend?
We got the Red River rivalry.
Hell yeah.
Got Texas and Oklahoma.
The prospects in this one
Because the chef has the graphic for it
Beautifully made
Archmanning Cam Coleman Ryan Wingo
Hollywood Smothers Relie Brown
Colin Simmons
Jelani McDonald for Texas
Oklahoma you got John McTeer
You got Isaiah Cetania
Owen Heineke
Taylor Wine, David Stone
Jaden Jackson, Eli Bowen
Payton Bowen
So that'll be fine
I mean Red River is always must watch when it comes
Yeah the energy around the game's nuts
Yeah so that's going to be a huge one
Georgia and Alabama, now, they got a little bit of weather coming their way.
Hurricanes.
Not great.
Isaiah, I believe, is the hurricane proper name.
First and foremost, just everybody out there, if you're listening to this and you're going to be affected by the weather in any major way,
hurricanes are not anything to play with.
Storm surge, specifically flooding, nothing to play with, man.
It really is not.
As somebody who's lived in Florida and has had to live through a lot of hurricanes, please do it.
you need to do to be safe for you and your family.
And this game, I think, is going to be impacted.
It sounds like they're going to play, right?
I think the last I heard of this.
That's what I was just looking into because, yeah, it feels like the weather is trending,
kind of getting scarier by the day.
Yeah, because not to pretend weather predict here, but what is what we could follow from
the basic updates.
It, I believe the predictions of what this storm was going to.
to be in the strength levels of it hitting land a couple of days ago, those have been upgraded
since. So again, if you were watching this show and you are like, yeah, you know, I'm kind of
close to it. I'm not really thinking about leaving. I really would just strongly consider
all the possible ways for you to get out of the path of that storm because, again, just hurricanes
are nothing to mess with, especially when roads could be damaged, there could be flooding, you could
lose power, you never know you're going to get that back. Just treat hurricanes with the, with the
seriousness that they need to be treated with to be safe again for you and your family and friends
and everything.
But look, if they play this game, obviously there's a lot of great NFL prospects in this one,
Georgia's, you know, Gunner Stockton, Nate Frazier in the backfield, the three-headed
monster at tight end and loss and lucky, Jaden Ridale, Elias Williams, Chris Cole looks unbelievable
so far to start this season.
So it's KJ. Bolden and Ellis Robinson on Georgia's defense.
But Keel and Russell, the quarterback from Alabama, he didn't even draft eligible.
and he looks, man, that kid looks good.
So he's a lot of fun.
Ryan Coleman Williams looks better this year.
But then on defense, we talked about Yonzo Pier and Devin Thomas,
or Devin Tompkins, excuse me,
Zavin Brown, Bray Hubbard, Keon, Sab.
There's all sorts of NFL talent in this game.
Yeah, I mean, especially specifically defensively,
to me is where I look at it because we know Chris Cole and KJ Bolden
and Alice Robinson on the Georgia side are trending towards being first round-ish
kind of players. And then Yonsepierre, you know, and you talked about Devin Tompkins a lot today
and all the things he does really well for being a larger edge player. But Yonsefierre, the kind of athlete
he does not only rushing upfield, but when they play him in space as well. Yeah. Florida and South
Carolina play this weekend. UCLA and Oregon play this weekend. It's a good opportunity to
get to watch a lot of prospects in that game as well. We talked about Nico Iama Leava and how he's
playing good this season, more consistency against a really good opponent in Oregon, man.
If he could show out against that Oregon defense, you feel pretty good about that.
I'm not ready to say Oregon's, they've been disappointing to me.
For sure, but they have a lot of talent.
Defense is your point.
Yes, they have a lot of talent on defense and it is a good test for Nico.
Yeah, there we go.
All right.
Connor, anything else?
No, that's it from us.
We are going to be back on Monday in our normal slot.
We are.
Yes, we're going to be back in the normal slot at 3 p.m. on Monday.
I'll stick around and read some of the super chats.
Connor's got to run the busy man that he is, the father that he is.
Yeah, this is a vet trip though.
So it's the dog father that he is.
Yeah, I mean, he's got to get out of here.
But I'll stick around and I'll read some of the super chats.
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