NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 2027 NFL Draft Running Back Rankings (SUMMER SCOUTING!)

Episode Date: June 29, 2026

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you their Top 12 RB Rankings for the 2027 NFL draft in their second episode of the 2027 Summer Scouting Series. WE'RE TRYING TO GET 75K SUBS ON YOUTUBE! Please he...lp us by subscribing! It's 100% free and helps us out a bunch. Thanks! WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at nflseshow@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Disasterous start. Am I muted? Oh, they can hear me. Oh, God. The cameras are on. Oh, no. Well, welcome to the pod. The chat is going so fast. My brain is melting. I, uh, I don't know what happened to Trevor, but we are starting with the, uh, Trevor you're back. I don't know. Am I back? Trevor Muteema. Truly when I saw the first muted. Welcome to the- Bashby in the chat was like the panic in Connor's face when he realized Trevor was actually muted as a historic moment.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm not going to lie. I absolutely melt it under the lights. He is not built for this. Somebody in the chat said, uh-oh, I'm on the show. Welcome to the opening bell, the NFL Stock Exchange Show.
Starting point is 00:00:51 If you can hear me, that is, hopefully you can. Wait, am I in the show? Trevor Sicken, McCona Rogers, with you guys for another episode of summer scouting.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Today, we're talking about the running back position for the 2027 NFL draft. Just like we did for quarterbacks, we will each give you our top 12 running backs that we have for a pretty fun running back class, especially towards the top, man. I think there's some leadbacks,
Starting point is 00:01:15 some guys that are going to be major difference makers. And of course, you know, as we get through, you know, the eight through 12 parts of the ranking, a lot of good complementary pieces, some guys that could really help during committees and just figure out how to make these teams better with the ground game. Connor, how you doing, my friend? I'm good, man.
Starting point is 00:01:29 It's nice to hear your voice, literally. That's terrifying start the last show, especially when your live panic sets in. Look at us in our black t-shirts and hats today. What made it, it's true. Yeah, no, we call it each other. We color coordinated here, obviously, with the show. You've got the green hat.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I've got the NFLSC hat. You love to see it. What was funny about last week's show was just that, honestly, the fact that it was, it was summer scouting. It was the kickoff of summer scouting, right? Like, how could that have been the start? Big quarterback. You and I and Tyler, our producer, have talked about that episode. episode for the last three months.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We're like, God, we can't wait for this episode. This episode's going to be great. We got to be ready with the stats and the graphics and the rankings and everything. And my damn mic was muted for the beginning of it. That's just classic us. Just classic us. So we'll see how we do this time. You know, you said it, though.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Much better running back class. I'll just say right off the top of the show. Last year, obviously, you had a superstar in Jeremiah Love. And then obviously, you know, the NFL. and I really like Judarian Price. There's a lot to like about Judarian Price. And we knew Judarian Price would at least go top 40. But after that, it became this, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:50 the fun of evaluating running backs is not always the guys that you know are going to go in the first 40 picks. It's who's going to become a starter that might be a day three pick. And it felt like, while we obviously have a chance for that for last year's class, this year, Trevor, while watching these guys, I just liked the depth so much more throughout the entire group. There was a lot more to be excited about not after one and two, but even when you get to eight, nine, and ten.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And I think that our lists are going to be pretty different. I think so too. Running back is such an interesting position to evaluate because on the surface level, maybe you could look at it and say like, oh, running back's pretty easy. But to be honest, like true value for a running back, it's a little bit of a team by team basis. It's kind of like how they philosophically want to be.
Starting point is 00:03:36 build their run game. Do they want to have a lead back? Do they want to have a committee? Do they want to have like specific skill sets? Like, hey, one of our guys is more of a shiftier, quicker, maybe the receiving type of back, the other guys of power. Or do you want two of the same players? You just want to rotate them in and out. So there's a lot, I think, that goes into running back evaluation that leaves beauty in the eye of the beholder when it comes to like how you're valuing a lot, evaluating a lot of these guys. Before we get into our rankings, So this episode, obviously it's live. We have it live on YouTube right now, but we're not actually live.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Surprise. It's movie magic. You were all fooled. You fools. I haven't read one of your stupid late comments at the time of the show yet. So all of you guys berating me for my height, which I will continue throughout this show because we have a couple of shorter running backs that we're going to get to here on this list. I started some PTO, so I'm away right now.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Connor might be knees deep. You know what? I was going to say that you were knees or elbows deep in a diaper right now. But you know what? I'm going to manifest the right vibes for you. I'm going to say that you're just chilling on the couch, baby sitting in your arms, sleeping, and you're watching, I don't know, the World Cup,
Starting point is 00:04:48 whatever you're watching right now. That sounds right. I'm going to manifest that you're in a happier place than what I was going to say originally. Yeah, borderline fantasy. But yes, let's hope for that as well. But yeah, no, all is well. and, you know, diaper change or not.
Starting point is 00:05:04 And, you know, you got to find pride in these things. Like I said on the last show, no one faster at changing a diaper and more efficient than changing a diaper in me. It's a NASCAR pit stop. Yeah. We're fine-tuned around here. You're the doc holiday of, uh, of diaper changing. No one faster than me. It's true, which, um, yeah, I've never seen Timstone.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I was just going to say, you know, I actually wasn't going to ask you because I feared the answer. But I'm glad you, such a good PR move by you to just get out. in front of it. I have to. Such a good PR way. I have to now. That's actually the most unforgivable. Like all the classics that you just refuse to watch or deciding Shawshank on a plane
Starting point is 00:05:43 is going to be your move. Not seeing Tombstone, it just hurts deep. I'm on a plane right now. And so you could be watching it. Unbeknownst to you, that statement could be a lie. By the time this podcast comes out, I may have watched Tombstone twice. I may have watched it once and then just restarted it right after that. You strike me as a guy that gets in the plane scene and go, you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:10 This is a good time for Dunkirk or Oppenheimer. Eight-inch screen, AirPods in, or the shitty airline headphones. I did. Dunkirk sounds great right now. I do wonder if I've watched Troy the most on a plate. I do actually. No, Troy. do wonder if Troy is my most plain watched movie.
Starting point is 00:06:32 That's a good, that's a really good question. And the chat reminder, can't see any of the rubbish you're saying right now, but would love to know what is your most watched? Most watched plane movie. Man, what is mine? I don't know. I think it might be like Troy or 300. Genuinely.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I will turn on 300 at will. Well, you said anytime you see it on the TV or whatever we go, all right, well, I know what I'm doing for the next hour and a half. Yeah, this is easy. You got to do it. It's a great question. All right. So we think on that.
Starting point is 00:07:03 I would love to hear not only in the chat, because obviously you guys are here, the community's here, you know, speaking amongst yourselves, bullying us where we can't even see it, I'm sure. Yeah, which is worse than the usual. In the comments of this show, let us know what your most watch plane movie is. And a great segue. It's not a great segue at all. But into our top 12 for our running back rankings here, just like we did for the quarterback episode, we will reveal 7 through 12. We'll talk a little bit about it. I'll reveal my 7 through 12 after Connor reveals his.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We'll have a good chat, good conversation about maybe some of the backs that are on the list, didn't make the list, the ones that we're a little bit higher on. Let's see it. Let's get into it here. Let's reveal Connor 7 through 12 and dig into this conversation running back to the 2027 NFL draft class.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So you have Relique Brown, who was at Arizona State, and now he is at Texas. Yes. L.J. Martin at B. You have him at number eight. Mark Fletcher, you have at number nine from Miami. Number 10, Jacoby Williams.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Surprise, surprise. Didn't watch him. So I'm going to lean on you for that one. He's from Texas Tech. Justice Hange, who was at Michigan. Now he is at Georgia Tech. You have him at number 11. And then Darius Taylor from Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You have him rounding things out at number 12. Let's just reveal my 7 through 12. I feel like that's an easy way to do it so we can see some names that we have similar here and then dig into this conversation. Nate Frazier from Georgia. I have him at number seven. Justice Haynes from Georgia Tech. I have him at eight.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Isaac Brown from Louisville. I have him at number nine. Mark Fletcher, I have at number 10. I wondered if we were going to be vastly different on Mark Fletcher. We're really not. You have him at nine. I have him at 10. I got Quintravean Wisner, who was at Texas.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Now he is at Florida State at number 11. And then Antoine Raymond. The latest and greatest of Scarlet Knights. Isaiah Pacheco and Kyle Munung guy just run as pissed off as humanly possible. Act like the ground. insulted your family. Stop away. And this is the legacy
Starting point is 00:09:03 that Ruckers has for the running back. So I'm excited to get him here at number 12 so I can talk about him here. I don't know where you want to start with this. You watch Jacoby Williams. I did not. Maybe that's an easy way to start this out so we can sort of knock him out.
Starting point is 00:09:15 But what do you think of Jacob Williams so you have at number 10 on your list? I would think this position group's one of those ones where we'll have a couple of these. I expect you to have somebody in your top. What is it, six that I didn't watch or didn't have there. And, you know, at number 12 where I had Darius Taylor, I felt like there was seven different guys,
Starting point is 00:09:32 all group that could have been in that spot. I just gave the nod to Taylor. Jacoby Williams firmly in this group at number 10. And I could see how, you know, you can kind of miss them on a watch list. I, when I wrote him down, I was looking at a spring sheet and stuff. I was like, okay, I remember him from last year. But let's see him actually as with a prospect lens on. this is someone last year, 868 rushing yards you see right there,
Starting point is 00:10:00 but notably why he's on this list that 20 years old is the past game work. 35 catches, but almost 400 yards. This guy is not just, he's not just a pass catching back. He's a dynamic threat, in my opinion, as a receiver. It was screens. It was a dangerous angle route that they love to use him on, where he just constantly got that step on a linebacker, and even shallow crossers because of his speed.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I think he's got good speed with and without the ball. He had six games last year where he topped 30 receiving yards. You don't really see that a ton from college backs. Like, you know, the guy, they just don't get that much of an emphasis. They don't. It's a typically spread out game and you got the wide receivers get a lot of the manufactured touches through the air, the quarterback run game and the RPO. You're right, Trevor.
Starting point is 00:10:53 there's just not a lot of meat on the bone in these offenses all the time to throw to their running backs. Also, because a lot of these guys can't pass protect or run routes at a efficient level, that it doesn't make sense to use that in your offense with what you have left on the menu. Jacoby Williams is a factor. He's a big time factor. And you look at, to talk about how dynamic he is in space, I mean, this guy had just six kick return attempts last year. He brought one back to the house. So there's probably a situation at tech where, hey, you're so.
Starting point is 00:11:23 a big piece on our starting offense, both on the ground and through the year. We're not going to have you play specials all the time, but damn, he's dangerous. He could do it for sure. You know, this is someone, and you see the listed weight right there. He's 185 pounds, and he looks it, and he might not even look that. He might look 5-9-1-75-180. So he's lighter, and that's probably why they were a little careful with his ground touches, an average level six yards of carry.
Starting point is 00:11:52 and that also translates to him as a running back. He just, he's not going to run through contact. And you're going to hear a lot of guys on this list today that that's their skill, is that they're big, they're strong, they run through contact, they have contact balance. But Jacoby Williams in today's NFL, man, I don't know what he's going to be able to become as a pass protector because of the size. But if he can play special teams for me and be a really interesting receiving threat and maybe give you some juice as an outside zone runner,
Starting point is 00:12:21 I mean, 49 mistackles forced last year, 26 explosive runs. That's 26 runs of 10 plus yards. He's just somebody, Trevor, that I got to get the ball in his hands eight to 10 times a game. Try to get him in space as much as I can. He's a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, and I mean, Quentin Joyner was supposed to be in this running back rotation as well. He was somebody who, when we did summer scouting last year,
Starting point is 00:12:44 he was coming from USC and was going to Texas Tech. I was super excited about him and then he got hurt. And so we didn't see him at all. But, man, you look at Texas Tech. and it's interesting sort of the way that you brought up his value as a receiver because that's a big part of the equation here for me. And I think that, you know, whether the chat is bullying us already or whether they're going to continue to do so throughout the show, there are some backs on my ranking that are these bigger, just like lower the shoulder type of backs that, yes, like I'll sit here and I'll sit here and pump my fist and ooh and I and hoot and hot. when they're able to do that, no doubt about it. But like true value at the running back position,
Starting point is 00:13:25 you have to be able to contribute to the passing game as well. Like that's really where the differentiating value comes for a lot of these guys. Like I got to see some sort of third down ability from you, whether it's past catching work or past protection work. And for some of these players who I think that's the biggest, you know, college to pro difference is do you affect the passing game in a, in a consistently positive manner? And then vision.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I think vision's a big deal as well. Because a lot of times, and there's a couple of backs that I'll talk about this with, you get behind these offensive lines that are really good in college. And you have these wide open rushing lanes. And sometimes rushing production can be really deceiving from college guys when it comes to translating their game and their production from college to the NFL is like, when you get to the NFL, you have to create. Like you have to create on your own. There's just not enough space.
Starting point is 00:14:18 There is not. And even the best offensive lines in the NFL are going to fail. Like they're going to have one or maybe even two guys like get through or shoot a gap or something. And it has to be on the running back at that point to be like, hey, I got you. I'll pick up the offensive line on this play. I will make this guy miss in the backfield. I will lower the shoulder and be able to get by him or I will see where this sort of defender is coming from before he even gets into the backfield. That's individual ability.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And I think that's an important reminder because we've talked about that a lot before here on this show. I know I talked about it a lot when I was talking about R.J. Harvey's scouting profile, Bucky Irving's scouting profile, where you just look at these guys and you go, yeah, but individually, beyond their offensive line, those mistackles force that you mentioned with Jacoby Williams, I think that's a huge stat for running backs. That takes you away from your offensive line because you could force a mistackle in the backfield at the line of scrimmage or 10 yards down the field. But it showcases that it's your individual ability,
Starting point is 00:15:25 independent of how well your offensive line might have blocked. So all that to say, like getting back to Jacoby Williams, you talking about how agile he is and then also talking about production in the receiving game. Yeah, when you sort of rope in special teams into that as well, this sounds like a, certainly a draftable running back. Like somebody who will give you really plus value. at the position that not every running back has the ability to give you.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And I think that he's in a great system to showcase his abilities there. I mean, you mentioned 35 receptions for him, but Cameron Dickey as well, their other running back, 25 receptions for him. So this was clearly an offense where they were building checkdowns into that running back spot. And so it'll be good to see him continue to do that. And hopefully Joyner can do that right next one.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So love the intro there for Jacob Williams. Who do we want to hit next? Do we want to hit? Do you watch Contraibian Weisner from? He was the guy I was just going to ask you because I did. He didn't make my top 12. I remember we talked about him last year, but I really wanted to hear you break him down again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:29 After kind of a, you know, it feels like we're just always expecting more from him. So it's time to get up and go. A little bit. But to me, I think it's okay to view Quintraibian Wisner through the appropriate lens. And that is the fact that like, I just don't think he's going to have a dominant trait. Like, I just, I don't think. that he's going to have breakaway speed. I don't think that he's going to be this brute who's going to lower the shoulder and bounce off all of these tackles. You know, he doesn't have Bejohn Robinson,
Starting point is 00:16:57 you know, type of feat where he's making you miss left and right and it's it'll make you miss in a phone booth as they say. I think he's a good receiver. Is he an elite receiver? I'm not so sure about that. But I think he's solid. I just think I just think the floor of his game is really well rounded. Is he the most agile running back? No, but will he make you miss? Does he have a little bit wiggle? He does. Does he have the best long speed? No, but can he pick up an extra 5, 10 yards once he sees that open space? Yes, he can. He can bounce off some tackles with some good contact balance. Now, he's going to do it the way that, you know, Jaden Baugh and L.J. Martin and Mark Fletcher do, no. But again, I just think that this is a really, really solid player. And to me, Quintravian
Starting point is 00:17:37 Weisner, even when he was at Texas, and now he's at Florida State, and I think that he'll get the opportunity, if I remember their depth chart correctly, to really sort of showcase his stuff. But I think that this is a player who a lot like you talked about with Williams is just sort of this depth running back that you feel good about inserting in a couple of different spots. Like I think there's a world where he becomes a third down specialist in the NFL. Or maybe he works his way up to this RB2 sort of spell running back role where he's just a really solid backup player that you feel comfortable giving touches to, giving looks to, putting on the field, because he's not going to mess up a lot. And that was kind of the case of Texas, right?
Starting point is 00:18:15 at Texas, they had C.J. Baxter, and C.J. Baxter went through a handful of injuries. But Texas didn't go into these seasons thinking, oh, man, Quetrarian Wiser is going to be our bell cow. Like, he's going to be our guy. And this is the first year where I really think that he'll get the lion's share of the looks and the touches. And he's a senior this year. He'll be 21 this year, 22 next year. But he's built decently, you know, right around 6 foot, 195, 200. So like, he's just a really all-around type of back that doesn't have that elite trait, but that's why he's a little bit lower on my rankings. But he is somebody who I could see sticking around the NFL in a while or a long time,
Starting point is 00:18:49 just because he sees things really well. I think he's got a good football IQ. And he think he's got enough athletic ability to warrant a depth running back role for a couple of contracts in the league. Yeah, he was somebody just another one of the guy and there's a ton of them that was in position to be the 12th guy. And I went with Darius Taylor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You had, you had Taylor who, you could touch on him really quick. I'll be quick on him. A pretty productive player for Minnesota over the last couple of seasons. You know, he's built like an NFL back. Yeah, six foot two, two 15. He's a senior this upcoming year. But I think a productive and efficient player for sure. Yeah, Taylor really slowed down by a lingering right hamstring injury last year.
Starting point is 00:19:33 That's why the numbers aren't that jarring when you look at them, whether it was not only missing time, but also the fact it kept reoccurring, it felt like. So he's someone, because you look at 2024, he almost had a thousand yards. He was 14 yards short of a thousand. Punched in 10 touchdowns. He had 800 as a freshman. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Like he's been Lex Guy since he got to campus. I remember when, you know, I interviewed both of them at Big Ten Media two years ago now. So like for Reflect to bring him to Big Ten Media days after his true freshman season. That's, yeah, means a lot. That stood out right away. And Darius has stayed with the program now.
Starting point is 00:20:12 This is going to be, you know, another year. This is going to be his fourth year there as they're starting running back. Now, this is somebody that we talked about the size, Trevor. He's got really two traits that low ceiling, but he has a floor. He's built like an NFL running back. It's 215 pounds of granite. I mean, it's real muscle on this guy, an NFL body. And he's caught 88 passes the last two years.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Dude, he's almost got 100 catches in his career. Three years in, that's, I mean, that's a ton of receiving production. He's, he's big. You would think with that body type, he's going to be able to hopefully pass protect at the next level. He has a ton of past game production. And he really can do two things for you that got these guys always stay on rosters. He can be a third down pass catcher with the size to protect. And he punches in touchdowns, right?
Starting point is 00:21:07 Like that's, you look at guys that just hang around the league forever. I mean, I know he's a lot bigger, but like Tyler Al Jir just got a contract. You could put him on the field and he punches in touchdowns. Darius Taylor is somebody that went healthy. He churns through contact to punch in touchdowns. He went healthy almost always makes that first tackler at the line of scrimmage miss. He does that division. Whether he makes them miss with a quick step or just runs through them with his lower body power.
Starting point is 00:21:35 He's not fast. He was clearly banged up with a soft tissue injury last year, which is incredibly. frustrating. And he's not going to churn off big runs, in my opinion. But he doesn't fumble. He had one fumble in 2024 that was in the past game. He had no fumbles last year. He catches the ball. He's got a big body and he runs with power. So like, that's a guy to me. It might go in the fifth round and he might be on a roster for eight years. Yeah. No, he's, he is somebody who I think can give you a lot of benefits as a third down back. And then in some years, you know, maybe yeah, he is your RB2.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Like he reminds me a little bit of, Jamal Williams. Yes. Who obviously was a great receiving type of a body. Yeah, when he was with Green Bay, then he obviously went to Detroit and he's been with New Orleans for the last couple of years. But to me,
Starting point is 00:22:25 they play that same style where I still think they have good vision. They don't really have the speed beyond the good vision, but these are guys who are going to give you. They're all, they're going to pass for tech for you. They've got good hands in the receiving game. So I really do think there's a world where Darius Taylor could be a really good depth back, a really good third down back for you. And so I think that he's in that conversation as well, even though, like you mentioned,
Starting point is 00:22:47 he's just not going to impress you as an athlete. And that's okay. As long as you understand that going in, you don't ask him to be something he's not. I think there's some good value, especially on third downs for Darius Taylor. I'll hit Antoine Raymond next, who I've got at number 12, before we get into some of the heavier hitters. So Antoine Raymond from Rutgers, he is a true junior going in. into this season, listed at 5-11-205.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And he was a former three-star running back from Canada, actually. He started his high school career in Canada. Then he transferred over to Clearwater Academy International, which is in Clearwater, Florida, commits to Rutgers, ended up starting two games in true freshman season. And then he started all 12 games last year. He's kind of the same way, man. I mean, like this is somebody who does not have break.
Starting point is 00:23:39 away speed. Yep. And he wants to lower the show. Like, I'm serious when I said at the beginning of the show. He is in the next royal line of pissed off runners from Rutgers. Isaiah Pacheco. Kyle Manon guy, yes. And now we've got Antoine Raymond here.
Starting point is 00:23:57 But the good thing about Raymond is a little bit the way that I just sort of talked about Taylor is past pro work, like the power work that this guy has. It's not like he is just a brute. when he has the ball in his hands. Like, he is prideful in past protection in the best way. Good fundamentals, really nice leverage to be able to neutralize pass rushers that are a lot bigger than him. He is an elite effort type of a player no matter what he is asked to do, whether it's
Starting point is 00:24:24 turn out the tough yards, the yards after contact, goal line carries, or like I said, third down, pass protection type of work. He holds that ball high and tight, so I'm not worried about ball security when it comes to him. He's super powerful behind his pads. But there also is just. just there's an overall, not only lacking athletic ability, but also just that playmaker mentality, which I guess you could kind of look at that two ways. One, you could say like,
Starting point is 00:24:49 hey, I wish you had more of a playmaker mentality to you. But then on the other side, I just talked about this with guys recognizing who they are and where their value is. He's not going to make guys miss. So do I really want him to try to do that more? No, I guess I'd rather just have him, hey, put your foot in the ground and try to churn some yards after contact through those tough situations. But you're just not going to get a lot of wiggle. You're not going to get a lot of individual like, hey, I made this guy miss in a phone booth.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Hey, I made a miss with agility or flexibility. It's going to be a, okay, there's a defender in front of me. You better get ready for the ice bath because here it comes. And he's just going to be a battering ram type of a player. Reminds me a little bit, even outside of the Rutgers guys. You remember John Kelly from Tennessee and play with the Rams? Just a smaller, just again, pissed. off runner.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And I feel like that's just the way that Antoine Raymond plays. And so he's just a true junior. I don't know if this guy in his skill set is going to declare after this year. So we might be talking about him for 2028 as well. But if you love those pissed off style runners, which I do. I mean, I love guys that'll give you everything for every carry that they have. He is somebody to take note of it this year. Well, tell me if you've heard this before.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I love another Ruckers running back. There it is. RB5 for me. I just think, wow, you got him at five. Yeah, I was so impressed with the tape. And I think that you can't always quantify with numbers being fearless at this position. He just does not care about being here. No, yeah, he'll run through a brick wall, man, if a coach told him to.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I think he has better burst than he gets credit for. That was the thing that actually, like, I was like, he, like, I was. I watched some slow running backs in this cause, and he's not fast. He doesn't have breakaway speed. I literally wrote down, doesn't run away from a lot of defenders. But the first couple of steps propels him through the line of scrimmage. I thought the burst and vision just helped him master efficiency. That was the thing.
Starting point is 00:26:55 He's a very efficient runner to me. Really good pound for pound strength, which at this program, that's their, you know, their DNA is their bound for pound strength and their weight program. hard they work and try to outwork everybody, even if they're not going to get a ton of four and five stars. Although we're going to have an interesting combo about this program during the wide receiver show, no spoilers. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah. I mean, he is just on short yard situations, there is zero fear. He converted 78 first downs last year. 78. And it's not like the line was just overwhelming people all the time. he was 88th percent on mistackles force per rush attempt.
Starting point is 00:27:39 76 mistackles forced on 244 carries. He's run for 21 touchdowns the last two years. Those were his true freshman in sophomore seasons. Right, right. That's incredible production. I get it. There's not explosive breakaway speed. He only had two games with real past game production.
Starting point is 00:27:58 It was Washington and Penn State. I wrote down, though, and like you got to really understand what this means. he felt like a diet soda version of Ashton Genty. Okay. Like he's not Ashton Genty, obviously, and the caliber prospect Genty was. Right, right. But all of the settings turned down dials,
Starting point is 00:28:17 but that's how he wants to run. Sure. I can see it. I don't think that's crazy. I don't think that's crazy. The style in which he plays the position, I could see, it's very similar to sort of like
Starting point is 00:28:27 what Genty was when he was at Boise State. Yeah. I'm a big Antoine Raymond fan. I don't think he has the dynamic, like unbelievable ability of the four guys I have ahead of him. But I will be, I'm pretty confident this guy is going to at some point be a starting NFL running back. Man, if you have Raymond at five,
Starting point is 00:28:50 Arles is going to look very different outside of the top two. Yeah. Because it's funny, it's funny that it's shaping out like this because in my opinion, there is an obvious top three running backs in this class. And that's, that's me. But one of the players that I think is obvious is in your 7 through 12. So,
Starting point is 00:29:13 oh, wow. It really, it just, it just comes down to it's seeing running backs differently. It's Relic Brown. It's not Relic Brown. Oh. Don't give it away. Don't get it away. Don't get it.
Starting point is 00:29:27 We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll get there. Okay. Really quick. You got Justice Haynes from, we was at Michigan. Now he's at Georgia Tech. At Georgia Tech.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah, you got him at number 11. I think I have him at number eight. Justice Haynes is, I think, built like an NFL back, right? Compact. He's listed 511 there, but he's 5.9 and 3 quarters. Oh, is he? Has that his official measurable? Yeah, his spring measurement.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Five nine and three quarters? Yeah, but 208. So like fire hydrant. Yeah, I mean, he's, he's got a stacked bill. There's no doubt about it. He had a foot injury last year, the kind of derailed last year a little bit for him. Former four-star running back. Dude, I don't know if you saw this in his high school profile, but he played at Blessed Trinity Catholic High School in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Then he transferred to Beaufort High School his senior season. He ended his three years. So freshman sophomore junior year, so he played three years at Blessed Trinity Catholic High School. almost 6,000 yards and 72 touchdowns. I mean, from his freshman to junior year. Just the guy right away. It's crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:30:42 His dad played running back in the NFL for seven seasons. So I guess when he got to high school, they're like, we know what you could do. Right, right. He played football in high school, obviously, but he also played baseball. He was a pitcher. Committed Alabama, played at Alabama in 2023 and 24.
Starting point is 00:30:57 He had six starts in each of those seasons. transferred over to Michigan. He started seven games, but then he had a foot injury, like I mentioned, and now he's at Georgia Tech for the 2026 season. And he's got a really nice center of gravity. You mentioned that compact, dense build that he has. He can really bounce off some tackles,
Starting point is 00:31:12 which I think is a great balance and core strength is a great trait for a running back to have, especially when you're built the way that Justice Haynes is. Low career production is a wide receiver, but I watched a lot of the targets that he got, and I felt like he's got pretty soft hands. Like, I feel like he's a natural type of athlete, he just didn't really throw him the ball a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:31 So I do think that there is something there when it comes to leaning on him in the passing game, you know, on swing routes or Texas routes or just like little checkdown opportunities. I think he can be reliable in those areas. I think that he's got, because of that smaller stockier build, I think he's got good leverage, good base, good core when it comes to pass protection as well. So I think there's decent potential there. I think he has a legit NFL top gear. Like, is he going to be the fastest running back in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:31:56 No. But like, I think him getting into that tier. or two category or at least the category that you feel good about like, hey, if the offensive line does exactly what they need to do and they give you the rushing lane, can you take this ball 30, 40 yards like you're supposed to? I think he can. I think he's got the speed to do it. Really the biggest issue that I have with him and why I couldn't have him any higher than eight on the ranking, even though physically I like a lot of what he brings to the table, he has that very north to south rushing style, which have we talked about north to south rushing style on
Starting point is 00:32:29 this show. It doesn't make sense. Why would you go south? What is? You would only, you go north. You just go forward. I think, that's a good point. Who's going south?
Starting point is 00:32:41 I don't want you to illustrate. I don't want you to be a north to south runner. I don't want you play a Madden. North to South. Like, yeah, you're right. It is kind of. I just like get up field. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Like, stick your foot in the ground and get up. You're right. There's a lot of stupid things to be saying in sports. So he does that really well. But I actually think that it's, there's positives in that regard, right? You just talked about the value of somebody being able to get up field. And I do think that that is value. But for some guys, you flirt with the line of lack of tempo and some impatience and how you run.
Starting point is 00:33:16 And I felt like there were a good amount of times when I was watching Justice Haynes where I was like, I like the urgency, but you're not letting your offensive line develop. Or you are not tempoing how you have the. the football in your hand the way that you need to, to allow the blocks to set up to really be able to maximize what a play would be. You're almost like, you're saying like, okay, I'm going to run really hard here and I'm going to get these three yards. And you get those three yards and you kind of like rewind the play a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And it's always tricky, you know, looking at football in slow motion because it doesn't happen in slow motion. But the best are able to sort of slow the game down a little bit like this. You go, okay, you got three yards there. You could have got seven if you just would have waited a half a second. if you just would have seen this, if you would have waited a little bit. And I feel like there's a little bit of impatience to his game.
Starting point is 00:34:04 So I would like to see a little bit more patience, a little bit more tempo instead of just, I got to get downhill as fast as possible from Justice Haines. Because if he is that type of a player, like if we see that again from him at Georgia Tech, I go, okay, that can play in the league still, right? Like I still think that that has value because of his athleticism, his build,
Starting point is 00:34:24 the core strength, all that stuff that I said there. but I kind of cap you out at like you're a day three running back for me at that point. If you are going to be more, I need to see you slow the game down a little bit, create in unique situations, and have a little bit more tempo and how you go with a football on your hand. So that was my thoughts on Justice Haynes. I echo everything you said. We see him very clearly the same way.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I would just, you know, boring, right? And it's not an insult all the time. It's just that he's consistent. This is somebody that, you know, you look at six of the seven games last year. He went over 100 yards. Like he's getting what's there. He's dense. He's compact.
Starting point is 00:35:05 He keeps his legs moving. He's got a low center of gravity. He finds these creases and kind of finds his way through them. It's just not very dynamic. He's not very elusive. The speed was, you mentioned it. It's not, he's not slow. It's just mediocre.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And there hasn't been the past game production even if he can do it. So hopefully this is an opportunity for him. him to show a little bit more of a rounded game. But he's just a solid day three running back prospect. That's probably meant to be in a committee. That's how I feel about him right now as well. Yeah. You want to start the conversation on Fletcher?
Starting point is 00:35:40 I think we should probably talk about him because then I think there's a couple of running backs that will blend our one through six rankings here that a couple of us have like on your rankings and my rankings. But Fletcher's here at number nine for you. Number 10 for me. big time fan favorite, right? Especially as Miami was making their college football playoff run. I mean, you see a running back that's six foot two, 225 pounds that runs with the mentality that Mark Fletcher does. You're going to make some fans, especially when some of the national
Starting point is 00:36:10 audience start watching your games when you get to those college football playoff games. But we have them sort of in the fringe of our top 10 here. He's a senior this upcoming season. How do you feel about him? I'll let you start the conversation there. I watched him last year because I thought he was going to declare. I was so surprised when he went back because, as we said, the depth of last year's class wasn't any good. He was playing really well. Miami was playing really well.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And you're running back. You kind of sit there and go like, save your legs and capitalize on a weaker class and, you know, teach their own. I'm sure he's doing well with NIL. He's had a great program that he wants to win a national title at. And he loves Miami. He's from Miami, I think. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Let me make sure that he is. And I respect the hell out of it. He's from Fort Lauderdale. So if Miami would have won the Natty, I think he's gone. He's in the NFL. But yeah, I think he feels like he's got some unfinished business from
Starting point is 00:37:02 which is cool. It's something that's lost a lot in today's college athletic. So I respect the hell out of that and think it's really cool. As a player, he is exactly what you expect when you see the height and weight. This is a power back. I mean, he's a big body.
Starting point is 00:37:15 He's going to use that big body. He wants to run right through you. He wants to keep those big legs moving. now he understands how he looks and how he runs and I think that at times he uses that to show off a little wiggle for a big back. There's some times because guys are just going to go low at you all the time when you're built like him.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Right. And he can move his feet and try to dance around people a little bit. Now, at that height and these long-legged build, he's just naturally upright. And when you're upright like that, you're going to get teed off on at the NFL. It just happens. which he, which I don't know, maybe he relishes that.
Starting point is 00:37:53 He kind of looks like he likes it. Yeah, I'm hitting you. You're not hitting me. Right. He's not a factor to me in the past game. Obviously, he's huge. It should be able to protect at that size, but he just cannot factor in as a past catcher. I mean, the drops.
Starting point is 00:38:09 I know he had the touchdown catch against Ohio State in the playoff, but like overall on a game by game basis, he's not a big factor in the past game at all. Yeah. This one to meet Trevor right away, sometimes like you just hit a comment. after two games. He reminds me so much of Brian Robinson, Jr.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Oh, okay. Sure. He's built like him. He runs like him. And Brian Robinson's a good, like has been a good NFL back, especially where he was drafted. And I think Fletcher is closer to him than this high end, you know, first two rounds kind of pick.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But if you need a true power runner in your committee, this is the guy for you. Yeah, I think that he, his limited. His value is going to be just different. I think very much team to team. Like if you want power back, you'll be in on him, especially if you're working from a committee. If you are somebody who wants a little bit more in the third down and the receiving game, like I was even,
Starting point is 00:39:01 now obviously I didn't, I didn't watch every game of him, but like I was even a little disappointed in the past pro stuff from him. Like I felt like the feet were kind of heavy in past pro. And sure, he had the frame overall to get in front of or slow down some rushers. But I thought we would see him, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:17 like stand, especially for how prideful he, is in his craft and what he brings to the table. Like I thought we would see him just like stand up these rushers and linebackers. And there were too many times where I felt like they were able to slip what he was doing because his feet were slow in pass protection. So if you don't bring the pass protection consistency that I want you to and you're not really a factor in the receiving game, then sure, I love a back who runs behind his pads and pissed off the way that he does.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And he gives you a ton of effort. And again, I think he's a fan favorite for a reason because he's a big energy guy as well. It's hard. But it's not going to be. universal for every team. And so Fletcher, Fletcher to me feels like when we get to our team specific big boards that we'll do, you know, later next spring, he's just going to be like, he might be super high for some teams. And then he might be super low for others. Like, it just kind of depends on the type of running back that you need with him. But he's a fun player. There's no doubt
Starting point is 00:40:10 about it. That's a, that's a fun player that you, that you get to watch, especially for that pride that he has when the ball is in his hand. All right. So we went through Taylor Haynes. Jacobi, Fletcher. I have Nate Frazier at 6. So he's another guy that we're just eye to eye on. Okay. Where do you have Isaac Brown for Louisville? I have Isaac Brown fourth.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Okay. So I have Isaac Brown 9th. Let's talk about him. Oh, I didn't even see that. Okay. Yeah. So I have Isaac Brown 9th. You have him fourth.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And then there's one other player that, uh, that I have high, that you have lower that we'll hit on next. So you've got him at number four. I'd love for you to, intro Isaac Brown who has been incredibly productive. Insane. I mean, a ton of production for him and is just his freshman and sophomore seasons.
Starting point is 00:40:59 He is on the smaller side. He's 5 foot 9, 190 pounds, which I was very surprised at when I started building his profile. I thought I, I don't know, like maybe it was just like the highlights that I watched from him over the last two years. Like when I saw 59190, 190, I was like, damn, that's way smaller than I thought. That's 20th percentile in height, fourth percentile in wait for the running back spot at the NFL level. But former track guy, long jump, 100 meter dash, four by 100 relay. So, I mean, like, he's got that track speed.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I think that shows up in his game. So you got him a little bit higher. I'll have you talk about him first. He could just change the game on one touch. And you can't always overvalue guys like that when they are outliers with size and stuff like that. But Isaac Brown, you turn on the tape. it does not take long to realize that just one touch and this guy could change the game.
Starting point is 00:41:51 He averaged 8.8 yards per carry last year. He averaged 7.1 yards per carry the year before. And he was more productive the year before because he was fully healthy. He ran for almost 1,200 yards. You know, he caught 30 passes that year as well. He's run for 18 touchdowns the last two years. It's just, he's just a dynamic big play threat.
Starting point is 00:42:13 And he, I mean, to put in context last year, he only had 106 carries. 22 of them went for 10 plus yards. Yeah. I mean, you're telling me one out of every five carries is an explosive gain. That's insanity. It's not like he's playing D3 football. So he, I mean, I wrote it down one bad angle and he has you beat.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like there were so many times I watched a safety or an offball linebacker take one wrong step or just be delayed in their process. And it was like, well, shit, I can't run with him. Like, this sucks. There's nothing I can do. And that just matters to me so much in terms of if you're going to be a guy that probably needs a limited workload, well, are you going to change the game with the limited workload I give you? And he does.
Starting point is 00:43:01 He routinely beats defenders to the edge around the corner. He had almost a point four mistackle force rate last year, which shows how he is so elusive in space. He runs away from people a lot. But when he doesn't, it's hard for them to get a hand on him. And you watched the tape in 2004 when Tyler Shuck was playing quarterback. His receiving skills look a hell of a lot better than what was going on last year, which he has to impact the past game at that size.
Starting point is 00:43:28 That's not negotiable. Yeah, you have to. You have to. So he's slender. He missed the final four regular season games with the leg injury. I have questions about the body type staying healthier, handling a bigger workload. He doesn't have a ton of play strength.
Starting point is 00:43:40 When guys do get hands on him, he's going to go down. But, man, I'm chasing big plays. And Isaac Brown just. he comes with the instruction manual. You don't know, no instructions needed. Put the ball in his hands and he just makes big plays. I think he's great for his own blocking scheme, especially the ones that want to get to the outside, right?
Starting point is 00:43:57 I mean, I think that that is absolutely where he thrives. And I think that you saw that consistently with Louisville. And, you know, it's funny. Like I see a lot of his positives very similarly to the way that you do. I think the big difference in you having him at four and me having him at nine is simply because maybe I need to watch a couple of different games of him. but I felt as though as a one cut back, he was really nice,
Starting point is 00:44:22 especially like when you were running mid and outside zone and when you were running, you know, like counter and like pullers that were really getting to the outside. I didn't feel like he had this crazy elusiveness to him, like, laterally. But so it's funny that you mentioned that the mistackles force rate for him was so high because I felt like I didn't see that. And that's why I'm a little bit more skeptical of him. I also agree with you like the durability with,
Starting point is 00:44:46 him at 190. Like I'm a little bit concerned with that. And you've definitely got to find value in the past game for sure. But I felt like a lot of his big runs, credit to Louis was offensive line. Like I watched a lot of like his biggest runs last year. And I was like, yo, he's not getting touched for like five yards. And then the Isaac Brown like speed kicks in, you know? And then it's like, okay, nobody's got a prayer after this.
Starting point is 00:45:08 But it wasn't as. And again, maybe it was just the games as I watch. It wasn't as creative as I thought. that it was going to be. I don't know if you hear my dog in the background. Maybe he doesn't agree with me. Maybe he's a big Isaac Brown fan. He's just like, Dad, you're lying to these people.
Starting point is 00:45:23 What are you doing? So maybe he likes your list more than more than it likes mine. But that was the one thing that was really holding me back. And I think I probably do have to go watch him a little bit more because him being at nine, genuinely was like the biggest surprise to me of the guys that I knew coming into this exercise. I was the most surprised that I was like, huh, he just didn't score. highly for me because I just did I felt like I didn't see that individual creativity as much as I thought beyond him getting you know a rushing lane and being able to take it to the house with
Starting point is 00:45:57 the big place because I definitely will uh will we'll we'll agree with you there and to me I think that he's got such great competitiveness to him as well I was watching the Boston college game specifically he went on a 78 yard run against Boston college and then the next two plays the very next two plays, he's on the goal line. He's out there. How many running backs in college break off a 78-yard play? And then the coach is obviously like, all right, right, right, right. Like, come here. Like, we're going to get your backup in. And you're not big. Yeah, and he's like, hell, like, hell no, I got 78 of those suckers. Give me my fucking touch shit. I'm getting, I'm getting the last three. And I think, I started myself in fantasy. That, like, that mentality is awesome.
Starting point is 00:46:41 And so, um, yeah, I have him at nine because I feel like there was a little bit of the lack of creativity, but he's somebody who, the last two years with him not being draft eligible, I very much was watching him just as a fan, live clips, highlights, everything like that. When you're draft eligible, we definitely watch these guys through a more like analytical lens and much more through a microscope. And so I'm very fascinated to watch what he's able to do this year because a lot of really great production. There's a lot of things to like, but is that creativity there the way that I feel like I missed
Starting point is 00:47:10 it from last year sample size? I guess we will see. Yeah, he is an insanely high variance prospect going into this year. Like, if he just stays healthy and then tests really well and shows more in the past game, somebody's going to look at him and be like, dude, you might be a top 50 pick because we're just, we're just chasing the next A-chan, which isn't fair, right? I'm not saying that's him, but teams will just start to fall into those habits. But if he gets hurt again and the body type starts to concern teams, he could be a day three guy.
Starting point is 00:47:44 It's going to be interesting. But I love him. I'm really excited about him. Yeah, because what was A. What did A. Chan weigh in at? A. Chan was 5-9190. There you go. So, yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Like, that might be the archetype that people are trying to chase. But, like, A-Chans gone through his injuries as well. It's just something you got to think about with some of these smaller backs playing a position that takes a ton of punishment. Okay, before we get to the player that I have high, that, Connor has in this group. If you guys aren't subscribed to the show, we would love for you to become a part of the addicts. We're having a lot of fun on summer scouting.
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Starting point is 00:48:53 Okay, do you have a guess on who the player is that I love that you have in your current group right here? And it's in my group currently. It's L.J. Martin. It's L.J. Martin. Another guy that we were kind of preparing to potentially be in the draft. Brother, I would have had L.J. Martin R. B2, R.B.3 last year.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, I was getting ready for the, you know, to be excited about him in the draft. I have him. So you have him at eight? Yes, you have him at eight. I have him as RB3. I think L.J. Martin's a hell of a football player. I really do. I think there is a, I think there's a big three running backs in this class going into this upcoming season. And I think LJ. Martin is one of them. He's a senior this year at BYU. he's six foot two, 225 pounds. He's got the similar measurables that everybody would love with Mark Fletcher.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I think he's got that similar bruising style that Mark Fletcher brings to the table. But the vision, the wiggle, the flexibility, it is all there from LJ Martin at that size, in my opinion. So he's a former three-star running back in the 2023 class. Also played basketball. So that natural athleticism, you absolutely see that translate to the field when he's got the ball in his hands. ran track as well when he was in high school. Started five games. The true freshman started eight games,
Starting point is 00:50:11 his sophomore year, and then started all 13 games last year. And now he's entering his senior year. His dad, his mother, and his uncle all played collegiate sports as well. So quite the athletic family that he is coming from. First and foremost, when you are a big back, I want to see you play like a big back. Right. There are times when,
Starting point is 00:50:33 I think this is a little bit of a scouting lesson from me that I learned a handful of years ago. I would watch some of these bigger running backs. They would have this like extra wiggle to them, a little bit of extra flexibility and agility to make guys miss. And I go, oh my gosh, look at him at his size. Being able to move like that, that's fantastic. I absolutely love that. Or maybe it's just long speed at that size, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:50:56 And then they wouldn't pan out in the league or they wouldn't be as successful as I wanted them to be. And I go, how did I miss this player? A lot of physical gifts, a lot of the bonuses that you would want from them being a big running back. And then it kind of dawned on me. It's like, wait a second. They weren't enough of the big running back first. It was like having dessert before the dinner. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I was looking at the bonus traits instead of meat and potatoes. Yeah. Yeah. It's not even think about that damn ice cream right now. It's broccoli. time, baby. That's what it's got to be about. And the thing that I like about L.J. Martin is first and foremost, he will run behind his pads at 6'2, 225 pounds. In fact, this dude had a shoulder injury last year. He suffered a shoulder injury against Iowa State in October of the 2025 season,
Starting point is 00:51:53 and he played through the pain and finished the year and then underwent surgery in 2025. You watch some of those games after that Iowa State game? He has. still lowering the shoulder. He is not like, okay, you know, my team needs me out here, but I'm not like, he's like, no, if I'm going to be out here, I'm going to be out here.
Starting point is 00:52:10 It's broccoli time, baby. There we go. There it is, footballing it. And so I think that the way that this player plays behind his pads, I absolutely love. But then to me, he's got that extra wiggle and balance. That track background shows up with some extra long speed
Starting point is 00:52:27 that you don't expect for a guy who's 6-2-2-25. He's got that extra wiggle from playing basketball. and being a natural athlete and having to cut and stop and start and all of that playing on the hardwood as well. He's got very good lower body strength to continue to churn for yards after contact. He's got the frame for reliable pass pro work. I think he's got good receiving production, especially when he was a starter. Not just soft hands, but Connor, I watched him have a little bit of nuance to his routes. Like I'm watching him, you know, like run a Texas rally, a classic Texas route where like he's he's kind of like putting the defender in conflict.
Starting point is 00:53:00 They're like, I don't know, it's where you're going. You're going out. You're going in what's happening. And he's setting guys up at that way again at his size. He doesn't have that like elite top gear type of speed to him. And you got to monitor that shoulder surgery that he's had because anytime a running back's got shoulder surgery, it's something that you got to monitor. But the skill set, the size of what this guy brings to the table, man, I would have drafted LJ Martin in the top 60, top 75 of last year's draft. And I feel the same about him this year. To me, he is a top 60 type of a back especially if he is fully healthy after that shoulder injury. So I'm a big fan of what LJ Martin brings to the table.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Yeah, this is a really well-built college player that uses that to his battering ram running style. That's the key, like you said, Trevor. He's got a great build and he utilizes it. And he's just reliable. No fumbles on 243 carries last year. I mean, keeps the ball off the ground. High tight, baby. I wrote, you saw this too, like just reliable and effective on those swing passes and dump-offs.
Starting point is 00:54:06 So I don't think he's fast. I think he's probably a four, five, six kind of guy. Maybe, yeah. Which, you know, we talk about it running back that passes a threshold. That's fine. I do think he's very, at the next level to me, he'll be more gap scheme dependent, in my opinion. I don't think he's as elusive as you saw, but I don't know how much that really matters. because this is just a really, really good player
Starting point is 00:54:32 in regards to getting up field, plowing forward, and being able to stay on the field for all three downs. All right. Who do we want to talk about next? We've got Nate Frazier, you said, is sort of the fringe player. He would be next because I have him at six
Starting point is 00:54:48 and you have him at seven. Okay, let's do that. Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. You can't accuse me of farming. No, that was bad. I don't have my overalls on today, baby. It ain't much, but it's honest work. It's honest work.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Nate Fraser from the University of Georgia. You got him one spot higher than me. You got him at six. I have him at seven here. He's a true junior going into this season. Listed at 5 foot 10, 205 pounds. Former four star running back from Compton, California.
Starting point is 00:55:19 He attended modern day high school, the very famous modern day high school, played at a very high level there. Also ran track 10, 5,8, 100 meter dash in a 21, 6. two in the 200 meter, which are really good times for a sprinter. And I think that you see that in his style. So I'll let you talk to the good people about Nate Frazier.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah, Frazier, pretty impressive sophomore tape. I mean, this is somebody that went for almost 1,000 yards. You see it in the picture. The first thing that stood out to me is how well-built he is with that compact desk muscle. Rocked up. I mean, this guy is clearly put in the work in this program. Great running back arms. still getting bigger and stronger, but I believe in the 205 listed weight,
Starting point is 00:56:05 and he's just maximizing his frame. And the thing is, he charges upfields with really good initial explosiveness, and he runs hard. And you watch George's gap scheme runs with him, no fear, no hesitation, whereas build really helps him,
Starting point is 00:56:24 where arm tackles kind of fly off of him. And he's got that really quick first couple steps and that kind of translates to him having juice to break off these 10 and 15 plus yard runs which um is a big part of his game man like he can he can turn those hey looks like four let me find a way to get 12 kind of run situations 12 a lot of people are like oh you know this looks like four yards i'll let me get six out of it you can stay straight to 12 yeah he's got some juice to me he really really does and then another thing for a young player he's throws his body around and pass protection.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Oh, for sure. The effort. Effort's huge with Frazier. Yeah, I love the effort with Frazier. Mentality is near the top of this class. Yeah. With Frazier. And a lot of times the Georgia guys, that doesn't surprise you.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Especially for a speed player, right? A lot of times you get these speed players who don't want it. I was putting them in my draft sheet and I was doing the background and then you turn on the tape and you just look at them. And I think I got more than I expected. I was like, he's going to try to be this like elusive fast player. And I'm like, no, he just, he charges upfield. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:37 With a, he runs really hard upfield. He's not very creative to me. Yeah, that was the big thing for me. It's kind of, it's almost like they told them like, hey, you better get the seven yards here. And he's like, I got to get the seven yards. Yeah. And like he forgets that like, he forgets that like three yards, he can make someone miss. He just runs.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah. So I just didn't think he was a career. creative runner. He fumbled twice on under 200 touches. So like that's, that's not great. It's a smaller sample size, but it's something that like,
Starting point is 00:58:08 what if he does have 250 touches? Is he going to fumble three or four times? Then it starts to become an issue. There's not really involvement in the past game. Besides the playoff game, he had three catches for 42 yards against Ole Miss, but not much involvement in the past game. So I think he's a,
Starting point is 00:58:24 I think he's a very willing past protector. I would like to see him become a past catcher if possible. But yeah, Nate Fraser, very efficient, solid player all around. Yeah, could understand somebody you know, like having him in their top 100 just because of the track speed that he has, the breakaway ability that is there,
Starting point is 00:58:41 the effort that he plays with, that mentality is a running back. I think that's very valuable. And it's funny, right? Like, I agree with you. I think there's a little bit of a lack of creativity in his game, a little bit of a lack of wiggle. He's not as fluid as some of these other guys that I have a little bit higher in the rankings than him. But, you know, if we know, if we know anything about a Kirby Smart program
Starting point is 00:59:00 and what we've watched at Georgia over the last couple of years, like they want you to go, man. They want you to, um, was it Don Brown who said the phrase? Like solve your problems with aggression, right? I mean, like that's,
Starting point is 00:59:11 that's what they want you to do when you're Georgia. And who can fault them for it? They've been one of the most successful, uh, college well programs over the last, uh, shoot, a decade now,
Starting point is 00:59:20 honestly, like since Kirby Smart has been there. So you could tell the mentality of like, they're yelling at him to go. Like get up field. Use that track speed. Use that. lower the shoulder, but I think that there is a little bit of lack of creativity that comes
Starting point is 00:59:32 with his game as well. I would, I think he's very similar to Justice Haynes, but he's the better version of that. Like there is more speed that is in there. He's faster. That's it. Right. There's a little bit more speed in there. And I think there's a little bit more wiggle in there from him. But both of those guys, I think, suffer from the same drawbacks of why they're not ranked a little but higher despite their overall athleticism being really nice is just there's a lack of that creativity and patience and tempo with when they have the ball in their hands. And I think that that's what we're really looking to see from both of those guys, I think, heading into the 2026 season.
Starting point is 01:00:08 All right, the big reveal? Yes. Yeah, I think it's time. I mean, half of mine I've already given away, but it's time for the big reveal. A little bit of mine as well. Okay, one through six. Connor Rogers ranking going into it. Yeah, Jaden Baugh from Florida at number one.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yep. Noted Florida man. Go Gators. Key Juan Lacey from Old Miss at number two. Amad Hardy at number three. You have Isaac Brown in number four. You got Antoine Raymond at number five. And he got Nate Frazier at number six. So you mentioned we've already talked about your four, five, and six players.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Will you reveal my list next? So there is a player that's in my top six that you didn't have in your top 12. And that's Hollywood Smothers who I have at number six here. I'm going to descending order now. Amad Hardy from Missouri, I have at number five. Relie Brown. I have it four. L.J. Martin.
Starting point is 01:00:51 now have it three, key one Lacey at two, and then Jaden Baugh. Go Gators. At number one there. Where do you want to start with that list? You want to start with Hollywood some others? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:00 let's start with Hollywood, because I know we talked about him on stockups last year. Yep. And he was one of those guys. I said there was like seven of them very much in contention for that 12th spot.
Starting point is 01:01:10 This is a good player, but I know you're incredibly high on him. Yeah. He definitely was on at least one or two stockups shows last season. Yeah, you know, and he had a great year. and to be honest with you, like, I didn't think I was going to be this high on Hollywood Right.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Like I thought that I was going to be low, a little bit lower on him. But to be honest, his measurables of 511, 195 actually surprised me a little bit for how well he moves for the wiggle that he has for his burst and how he plays. I thought this is going to be a, I thought we were going to be talking about like, all right, he's like, you know, he's 59, 510. He's 185, 190. Yeah. And then you're talking about smaller, I don't know about this one. Smaller back type of things. But they got him listed at 511.
Starting point is 01:01:51 1-195. And so, like, even if he's, you know, closer, like, even if he's between 5-10, 5-11, and even if he's between 190, 195, that's bigger than I thought he was going to be. Sure. If he ends up measuring in smaller, then obviously, that's kind of something to think about when it comes to durability. Nothing changes between what we're seeing on the field, but just a durability concern, like, is he built like an NFL back?
Starting point is 01:02:13 You start thinking about those things. But he was at NC State. Now he's at Texas. He was a three-star back from Charlotte, North Carolina, by the way. I salute. One back-to-back state championships is a freshman and sophomore, actually committed to Oklahoma, played in four games. Redshirted his first year when he was at Oklahoma, transferred over to NC State, started six games in 2024, started all 11 games last year. And then he transferred to Texas this upcoming season. So we'll get to see him at Texas this year. I think that he's got legit receiving ability, first and foremost. He's consistently used as a receiver.
Starting point is 01:02:47 He has that third down ability to him. Different types of routes. volume type of a player. Not a ton of receiving yards, as you guys see there from last year, but somebody who got a ton of targets. He's just very used to being a part of the passing game. And I think that's a big plus when it comes to overall value. I think that he's a willing pass protector as well. You know, and that kind of goes into the weight. I felt like he was a lot better at pass protection than I believed that he was going to be. I knew they were going to have him on the field quite a bit because of what he was as a receiver. But as a pass blocker, I was like, okay, like, you're actually caring about this. You're putting pride into this. You've got
Starting point is 01:03:18 fundamentals. Yeah, he's a little bit smaller. So sometimes he'll get bullied. but hey, he'll stand in the way and stand his ground as best that he can there. I think that the core and contact balance, his ability to stay on his feet, really nice for a player who's sub 200 pounds. I was surprised about that as well. This is somebody who I felt like was going to go down on first contact quite a bit. I knew he had those fancy feet and could kind of make you miss in a phone booth
Starting point is 01:03:42 and had that elusiness to him. But I felt like, all right, yeah, but when they get an arm on year, when they go to wrap you up, he's going to go down pretty easy at first contact. there are times when he did, but that wasn't all the time. There were plenty of times where like, yeah, he'd stumble a little bit, but he'd stay on his feet. He'd get those yards after contact. I really loved who he was as a tempoed runner.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Does he have the best long speed in the world? No, but he knows when to utilize that burst. You remember in video games when we would all like to just like, okay, like let me mash the sprint button as much as possible. But in reality, the sprint button was actually most efficient when you were kind of like tempoed what you were doing and then you press the button and like, okay, now I'm going this way and go, okay, now I'm slowing down a little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Now I'm bursting this way. That's how Hollywood Smothers plays. And so I love the in control style that he played with. The vision. I felt like he had such great vision for where defenders were going to be. And, you know, how momentum was like carrying a certain defender towards him a certain way. And he would be able to see that and recognize that and anticipate that really early.
Starting point is 01:04:44 So he could put his foot in the ground and make them miss before they even got to them. So love the vision and vision is huge for me as a running back. That hallucinous is fantastic for him. And like I mentioned, I think he's a decent athlete. He's not a difference-making athlete. Maybe that is something that just ultimately holds him back and lowers him from this number five spot that I have him here is that overall ceiling of athleticism.
Starting point is 01:05:05 But there's so much of what I really liked in how he played the game. His style reminded me a lot of Andre Ellington. And what Andre Ellington was when he was coming out of Clemson and what Andre Ellington even became when he was with the Arizona Cardinals. And that receiving ability, that elusiveness. Like that was just, it's so present in his game where Ellington had some years where he was really effective for the Cardinals in that role. And I wonder if we get a little bit of that with Hollywood Smothers as well.
Starting point is 01:05:34 So this is definitely me on the higher side of things with him at number six on my rankings. But I liked him a lot more than I thought that I was going to. Yeah, there is a lot to like. I think number one, when you can get him into space as well, He's somebody that has that make you miss ability. I love that you brought up the past game ability too. And it's going to be fascinating to see now how Texas maybe uses these guys together sometimes. Because I think their skill sets would allow them to be on the field together as well.
Starting point is 01:06:02 I mean, these are big investments in two running backs that on most teams would be the frontline guy. Yeah. So that's going to be really interesting to watch too. You want to talk about Relique Brown next? I mean, we haven't talked about Relique Brown. Yeah, that's an easy segue to him. I totally forgot that we didn't talk about him in the last part. Haven't touched on him yet.
Starting point is 01:06:22 So you got him at running back seven. I haven't been RB4. So he is in my top five here. He's a redshirt senior this year. He's transferring over from Arizona State. He is listed at 5 foot 9, 190 pounds. So there's some size parts of this conversation that we need to talk about here. But what did you think about really Brown?
Starting point is 01:06:39 And I've seen spring measurements that have him at 5, 7, and 3 quarters. So he's really low to the ground kind of runner. Now, 193. So, like, he's... Nice, nice. He's doing what he can with the frame to fill out in the right direction. You mentioned it, Trevor, Arizona State and USC, now Texas, highly productive last year, averaged over six yards per carry, 56 mistackles force, had 31 runs of 10 plus yards.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah. Now, it talked about him playing with Hollywood. They both can catch the ball. That's the thing here. 34 catches last year. He has absurd knife level. sharp cuts at the second and third levels of the field. It is, I am such a sucker for a guy who can make you miss the way that Relique Brown can make you miss.
Starting point is 01:07:27 He'd be an elite pros versus Joe's. Like, hey, here's a 38 year old accountant that yells at the TV every weekend. You have to try to get one hand on Relique Brown in the hole. And you tear your Achilles trying to get a hand on. You would. Yes, you would. That's what I, I mean, yeah, it's a lot of fun to watch. Another guy very dangerous in space.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And dude, on zone runs last year, he averaged 7.4 yards per carry. Yep. Like, he just finds the crease, sticks his foot in the ground. He gets to the second or third level, and he's so dangerous. But he's really small. Like I said, he's about 5.7 and 3 quarters, 193, so he's very undersized. and this is going back to my point of using, this is why they got two really good running backs
Starting point is 01:08:19 because the workload's got to be managed. And now you have him and Hollywood together. The workload can be managed between them. This doesn't shock you with a guy like this, but man, he goes out of bounds a lot rather than the finishing runs. And I get it, man. Like your team might even be telling you,
Starting point is 01:08:37 hey, you're too important. Don't try to get an extra three yards, go out of bounds. Yeah. But that's just, that's tough. when you're evaluating for the next level. He still averaged 6.1 yards of carry. I know. And I said on the zone runs almost eight.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Yeah. But he just, he goes out of bounds all the time instead of finishing runs. And once again, at college level, this probably doesn't matter at all. But when you're evaluating for the NFL,
Starting point is 01:09:00 it's something that you think about. And he's not going to generate yards after contact, in my opinion. He's just not built to do that. He wants to not be touched. And that's why his absurd sharp cuts are special. So, I mean, yeah, I have Relique Brown at seven.
Starting point is 01:09:13 You have them at four. Like, this dude is, he's exciting to watch and he's dynamic in the zone game. Yeah, zone game. But honestly, behind Man and Gapski and Rumbocking concepts as well, because he has the dancers slash boxers feet, like whichever analogy that you want to use. I mean, this guy is as light as a feather on his feet. There's one play. I don't even remember what team this was that he was going up against.
Starting point is 01:09:37 But he reaches the line of scrimmage. He puts his foot in the ground. He makes a guy miss. And the guy's like diving to his wrist. right. And then there's somebody else who's diving to tackle him. And as he put his right foot in the ground to make this guy, this one guy miss, as his left foot comes on the ground, he then jumps to hurdle the next defender that is also diving to tackle him. And it's like, man, that is a, that is a playmaker's mentality
Starting point is 01:10:04 that just a lot of guys do not have. That is slowing the game down in ways that, again, is just it makes for a very rare trade in how you process a very fast game. The receiving production is great from him as well. Look, he's going to be one of the older running backs in this class, but it's important to remember this about him. He doesn't come with a ton of mileage. He had 42 attempts his true freshman season when he was at USC. He only had three attempts in two games in 2023.
Starting point is 01:10:32 He only had nine attempts in two games in 2024. He had 186 last year, but it's not like this guy is a redshirt senior, and he's coming with like 500 career carries or 400 career carries, something like that. So that's just an important thing to remember with his scouting profile is he's not coming with a ton of mileage there, even with him having that red shirt senior label. So I think that he's, I think the pros and cons of him are very easy to see, to be honest with you. I think a scouting report is very, very straightforward. It all just comes down to, is he big enough?
Starting point is 01:11:09 Is he strong enough? Is he durable enough? Because the rest of it's there. I don't necessarily care that he's not going to run. He's not going to run a 4-3 or something like that. I don't necessarily care about that because I think he's efficient in so, so many other ways, especially in the passing game and as a receiver. But does he have, does he hit the size threshold that you need to to stick around in the
Starting point is 01:11:32 NFL? I think that is the big question for a player who is otherwise very, very talented and can affect the game in a lot of different ways from that. position. Yeah, it's tricky, right? Because, and we obviously are pretty high on him, considering how good this class is, where we have them. But we've also seen so many guys built like this just not make it.
Starting point is 01:11:52 They go in like the fourth round and, you know, you just kind of fizzle out because it's fast in physical league. So it's, it's going to be interesting. Like, how big he actually is and how athletic he actually is after the season. This is a guy that really matters for. And I know people get fatigue of that, but, but man, in college, I mean, he is a extremely hard player in tackle in the open field. He's extremely fun. And he creates his own space.
Starting point is 01:12:21 He does. And I forgot to mention the reason why he didn't have a ton of carries in those two years, one at USC and then the other one in Arizona State is because he did have hamstring issues. He had hamstring issues. His last year at USC. And then I think it was that first year at Arizona State. he had a grade three hamstring tear that forced him to miss the entire season. But I mean, obviously he came back last year and looked pretty damn good. So, I mean, you feel good about the recovery process,
Starting point is 01:12:47 but it is just, again, something to monitor with the guy when it comes to durability at the pro level. You want to do Ahmad Hardy next? You've got him at number three. I've got him at number five. And this is somebody who I think when you watched the best of Amad Hardy last year, I mean, you see it there are almost 1,700 rushing yards from him, 16 rushing touchdowns. This dude was so much fun when it came to his highlight package.
Starting point is 01:13:10 And there was a point during the middle of the year, I was like, dude, is this guy about to win Heismund? Right, right. How well he was playing. But built like an NFL back, 5 foot 10, 210 pounds. And honestly, man, I mean, he looks like he's got even more weight than that on there. But True Jr. coming off of a pretty damn good sophomore season, his background is very interesting because he was a zero star running back.
Starting point is 01:13:35 from Brookhaven, Mississippi. He played football, basketball, baseball, and soccer growing up, committed to the University of Louisiana Monroe. He played in 12 games in 2024 and was a freshman All-American. Then he transferred over to Missouri. Then he was a Doke Walker finalist last year in the 12 games that he played. So it's just like, man, he, as a zero-star recruit, it's kind of crazy the amount of production that this guy has had over the last,
Starting point is 01:14:05 the last two years. It is worth noting that in May, so just a couple of months ago, he was shot in the leg at a concert in Mississippi. And he underwent surgery. And everything that I heard is that he and the team and everything like intends for him to come back and play football. But like it is worth noting that of that obviously happening to him this summer, which is just absolutely terrifying. But yeah, as a bystander. Yeah. Dude, just, just crazy. So, and it, you know, we don't have like official reports and everything, but it seems promising in terms of, you know, he's not like dealing with ligament damage and stuff coming back. You said, Trevor, they expect him to be, you know, playing football this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Tricky one, right? And I haven't met three. And I almost had Isaac Brown over him. Very impressive player. I think that dangerously, I almost expect. too much because of how... I'm with you. How good he was last year and how much hype there all of a sudden became.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And this is, he's an amazing college player. And I think he's going to be a good NFL player. When I sat down without watching all these guys from a scouting lens, I thought he would be one or two. I do two. And he, and I, it ended up not, I don't really think he's that close to one or two, which is weird. he's a really good prospect.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I thought one and two, I'm like, these guys could go in the first round. Totally. And he reminded me a lot of when J.K. Dobbins was healthy. That's what he looked like. That's how he ran. I mean, there's a lot of good here.
Starting point is 01:15:50 He has strong contact balance. He's got good pound for pound strength. His elite skill is he has this knack for finding his way through lanes that seem impossible. Like there's like a, inch of space. And most running backs be like, no, can't do that, got to bounce outside or wait or,
Starting point is 01:16:10 and he just has this six cents and finds his way through it and like opens up or gets skinny. It's amazing. You actually lose him in the play sometimes and he just fires through a hole that didn't even look like it was a hole. Right. So that was to me like, wow. 97 mistackles for us in 2025, a point three seven.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And all of it was just like strength based. It was just, you know, we went back to the Ashton Genti conversation. Like, you're just not going to tackle me. You're going to bounce off of me. That's how last year felt. I think he's very natural flowing in the zone run game. Like when I now, people are like, well, you just said, you know, you don't know if he's a first rounder. And once again, he's awesome.
Starting point is 01:16:53 I don't want to lose sight of that. It is so hard to be a first round running back. I don't think he's a first rounder. I wouldn't have him in the first round today. Yeah, I have him at five, obviously on the running back rankings. And I think that that's honestly like, mostly out of respect for two incredible years that he has had. But there is, there are,
Starting point is 01:17:08 there are running back value points to make that I feel like he falls short on. Mainly, mainly long speed and then receiving and then receiving. That's the two things. He, he's got below average speed because he's got, he's a short strider. Like he has short strides. So even when he gets in the open field, I don't think he opens up the way some of the bigger, longer like running backs do. he's got 14 total catches for less than 100 yards the last two seasons.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Right. Like two years, he's been insanely productive as a player, but he has not been a pass catcher at all. At all. And on top of that, they basically took him off the field on third down. He doesn't have pass protection experience either. He really doesn't. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:52 So it's, it's, there's just, there is a lack of third down anything with him over the last two years. the first typically. And, you know, he had a high workload. So you need to be careful. Not all fumbles are the same. But he did fumble three times last year. So it's, you know, we're nitpicking because the expectations are so high.
Starting point is 01:18:13 And he's awesome. And I'm rooting for his comeback now. And I think he's going to, I think he could be a hell of a player. And he's going to be a good NFL running back. I just saw more of a day two good running back when I think I foolishly fell into the like, Is this guy going to be a top 15 pick? I'm not there right now, and maybe he can establish that this year.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Yeah, no, I'm with you 100%. Like, I think that the mentality in which he plays, the strong build that he has, the mentality to stay up after first contact, like all of that stuff will absolutely play in the league. But the lack of third down production, the lack of top speed from him, I think that sometimes you watch him.
Starting point is 01:18:55 It's incredible to see the production that he, has while I'm saying this is like there's sometimes like a lack of there or there's sometimes like hesitation to how he runs like he doesn't always see it the way that he needs to now he's a young player right he started Louisiana Monroe first year in Missouri like he was only a freshman in sophomore so to have a little bit of hesitancy is totally fine from him but there is still that in his game it's not like he's really anticipating uh space opening up or or the blockers that are they're in front of them like perfectly every single time so to me I think this is I'm very comfortable saying like this is a day two running back type of a player for me.
Starting point is 01:19:33 And this is a really nice option in a power committee. He reminded me a little bit of like Rudy Johnson. Now Rudy Johnson obviously had a great career when he was at the Bengals and he was really productive there. And like that's really what you want Ahmad Hardy to be. But even Rudy Johnson, I mean, he was a power type of a back. He was a run behind the shoulder pads. And he also, Rudy Johnson also played in a different era of the game. It's a little bit different now.
Starting point is 01:19:56 You've got to be a little bit quicker in how you anticipate. things and just the fluidity in which you play and and that's not really a style that a mod hardy has so does he have NFL size NFL ability NFL mentality strength all that yes he does but it does come down to that i think there are going to be some people that are going to say like oh we got to get a more Ahmad Hardy in the like first round mock drafts that we do and i just don't think that you have to i think this is an NFL player but i don't think that this is a this is a first round type of running back even for as productive as he was last year yep that's it's interesting. We definitely saw him the same way, despite, you know, an overwhelming amount of hype.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I think we get two guys left, right? It is two and one here on the list. Let's talk about Key One Lacey first. Same one and twos for us. Yep, same one and two here with Key One Lacey and Jaden Baugh. Key one Lacey is a junior at Old Miss. Five foot 11, two hundred five pounds. Four star running back from Dallas, Texas. I also ran track as well as playing football, 10-7-9, 100-meter dash 10-8-100-meter dash when he was running track as a junior played in six games oh i'm sorry i'm sorry he actually started his career in miss i forgot to mention that played in six games when he was at miss 24 transferred to old miss last year started all 15 games for him and he was a major part of why that team was as good as they were on offense and why they made it as far as they did
Starting point is 01:21:18 in the college football playoff and so um yeah i i think he is he's also one of the younger prospects in the class. He's not even 20 years old yet. I don't think he'll be 20 until next month. And so, yeah, I mean, he will be, he will have just turned 21 when the regular season begins next year. And he'll be 20 on draft night if he ends up being in next year's class. I mean, right out of the gate, I'll say it.
Starting point is 01:21:51 I just thought of Dalvin Cook, right away. Ooh. I was like, whoa. The footwork is electric. Like he's got light feet. He's an electric player. I love his burst.
Starting point is 01:22:09 And the burst is get up field or win the corner. Yeah. He's not like, I got to get outside every time and just beat you in the foot race because it's college and you're slower than me. It's like, no, let's hit the whole 100 miles an hour or let's beat the defense to the edge. he's got that crazy explosive jump cut.
Starting point is 01:22:30 The short area make you miss wiggle is just, once again, like it's hard to get a hand on him. You know who I thought of? You said Dalvin? Yeah. I thought of LaShawn McCoy. Sure. You know how like shady was just like so shifty?
Starting point is 01:22:45 And then the second he earned the right to turn on the jets, he absolutely could do it. Dude. He reminded me a lot of LaShawn McCoy as well. Yeah, yeah. which are huge comps that we just gave, but like that's how good I think this player is. I'm all in on this guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:00 This is a plus level light feat. And here's one that's a sneaky one. So we had a massive workload last year. 306 rushing attempts. He looked like the same guy at the last few games. It doesn't make any sense. We need to protect him. We need to protect him at all costs.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Yeah, I know. But, I was like, damn. I'll pay the NIL money to get some other running back in there so he could split some carries with him for half the season. Stop running him into the ground. But the thing is, he's built for it. Yeah. He looked so good after all of those, all of that work throughout the year.
Starting point is 01:23:39 I was like, damn, you are built a little bit different to look like the same guy. So yeah, Kuan Lacey. Drops were an issue. A couple fumbles. I think he absorbs more contact than actually hands out the contact. Oh, totally. But that's not why I'm drafting him. I didn't to clean up the past game work.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Yes. Specifically the drops that it was like, man, past pro too. Like he cares and pass pro, but you could tell he's just kind of like, I don't really know what I'm doing here. Which is like 90% of college running backs. But we're putting huge praise on this guy.
Starting point is 01:24:11 But as a runner, man. Ooh, buddy. Yeah, dangerous stuff. It's fun. And when he gets into open space, you know, we talked about a couple of guys already in this class. Like Ahmad Hardy was one of them. Antoine Raymond's a little bit.
Starting point is 01:24:24 this, but like the shorter strides that they have. Yeah. This guy is gallops. Man, I mean, he, his strides are long and he gets faster. Like the more steps he gets into his top speed, he just continues to get faster and faster and faster. And that is that track background from that sprinter background and then just having a really good frame to be a speed runner at the NFL level.
Starting point is 01:24:48 So there's just so, I mean, to have over 300 carries and still average over five yards per carry, dude, you're, you are, you are so efficient in what you are doing there with the volume that you're getting. So, Kewan Lacey, there are, like you said, there are some refining things, especially on the third down responsibilities that he could, that he could shore up. But this is a, this is a first round type of a running back. If he improves his third down responsibility work in his consistency there, I got no problem drafting this player in the first round. He's a difference maker for you in the ground game. So, yeah, he's awesome.
Starting point is 01:25:24 All right. As is number one. From the University of Florida, baby. There it is. No bias here. This is just real. Jaden Baugh. I haven't been number one.
Starting point is 01:25:35 You haven't been number one heading into this season. He is a true junior heading into 2026. Listed at 6 foot 1, 228 pounds, which is 87th percentile and 87th percentile. So this dude is a massive NFL type of build for a running back. He's a former four-star from Atlanta, Georgia. He played running back, quarterback, wide receiver, and defensive back when he was in high school, committed to Florida, played in all 13 games, a true freshman, started four of them,
Starting point is 01:26:04 and they started all 12 games last year. First and foremost, I talked about this with LJ. Martin, right? When you were a bigger back, I want to see you play like a bigger back. And Jaden Ball plays like a bigger back. The second that you try to tackle him, oh, you're not having a good time. He's going to put you in the ice path. Like, that's the dense build. that this dude has. If you try to go low and hit him in the thighs, again, like it's tree trunk stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:26 And if you try to go up high on him, man, he can lower the shoulder and he can give you some punishment there as well. One career fumble on over 350 carries from him, so a reliable type of player. But specifically, with Jaden Baugh, he moves like 230 pound back should not move.
Starting point is 01:26:48 That's the thing. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, game that Jaden Baugh has is pretty jaw-dropping. Everything that you would want him to be from vision, light on his feet, powerful behind his pads, tempoed and controlled when he is behind the line of scrimmage, making players miss, all of this. I mean, he is the total package of a player with the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 01:27:17 He didn't really do much for them at the receiving game. Like he's another one like Keelman Lacey like I want to see a little bit more emphasis on the third down responsibilities. And sometimes just because he's a bigger back like when he's in those one cut opportunities like for like mid and outside zone where he's like getting to the sideline. And some guys have the like Kewan Lacey has this ability to truly like one cut, one foot in the ground up the field. Jaden ball is a little bit more of a hey like it takes me like one or two or three steps to really like make that cut. but dude he's 230 pounds i mean like that's what you kind of expect for a player like that but outside of that man just the overall athleticism the flexibility how light he is on his feet for being 225 230 pounds dudes who are of his size and strength should not move the way he does
Starting point is 01:28:06 and that's what makes him rb one in this class in my life i'm with you all the way and he takes home the mr broccoli award because it's broccoli time baby it's broccoli time for jaden ball he doesn't fall in love with it that he's such an elite mover at his size too much when it's time to run through contact and charge forward he'll run through your face the speed to power is just nasty from there's a couple times where he like is in I think it was after one of his catches where he just uses his body as a human torpedo into the defender it's like
Starting point is 01:28:39 it was incredible um you mentioned it had no fumbles last year he didn't know big workload. I like him in the past game. I think he has urgency to get upfield. And I think when I watch him in the past game, at least the hands are natural. Yes. In pass bro, he stays square.
Starting point is 01:29:00 He's not like ducking and weaving. He understands. He's also 2.30. So most of the time the guy running at him isn't overwhelming to him. So he's confident. So he doesn't have to chop low. there's so much to love about this guy. But the thing it starts with and ends with that you said is he has elite size with above
Starting point is 01:29:21 average movement skills. And that is often the ultimate calling card of playing in the NFL, at any position. But when you do it at a position where the ball is in your hands every play, it matters so much more. Yep. Yep. I mean, if he stays healthy, this is a first rounder. This is not only a first round back.
Starting point is 01:29:40 I mean, like, pro bowler, all pro potential, workhorse, three down back. I mean, like, this is the type of player outside of like, you know, the Christian McCaffrey archetypes with guys who are just elite elite at the receiving position as well, which Christian McCaffrey was phenomenal at everything. But like, this is the type of player that you would draft in the first round. This guy will give you everything or he either gives you everything right now or he has the potential and has shown the growth to give you. you everything that you could potentially want from the position.
Starting point is 01:30:13 And those are the players that you draft in the first round. And I think Jaden Ball is, you know, I don't think he's going as high as Jeremiah. I love it. But I think this is a player who we're going to talk about in the top 20. And we might even be able to talk about him in the top 15, depending on how this upcoming year goes for Florida. But yeah, Jaden Ball, he's a special player. And there's just not a lot of guys who move the way that he does at the size that he has.
Starting point is 01:30:38 And anytime that's the case, you got a leg up. up on the rest of your competition and classmates in a draft class. There it is. Good group. Good looking group. Fun group, fun group for sure. Let's recap the, let's recap the top 12. 12, I had Antoine Raymond from Rutgers, 11, Quintravean Wisner from Florida State, 10, Mark Fletcher from Miami, 9, Isaac Brown from Louisville,
Starting point is 01:30:59 eight Justice Haynes from Georgia, 9, Nate Frazier from Georgia, six Hollywood smothers from Texas, Ahmad Hardy from Missouri at number five, Relique Brown from Texas, number four, LJ Martin for BYU at number three, Kiwan Lacey from Old Miss at number two, and then Jaden Baugh at number one. Number 12 for me, Darius Taylor from Minnesota, number 11, Justice Haynes, Georgia Tech, 10, Jacoby Williams, Texas Tech, nine, Mark Fletcher from Miami, 8, LJ Martin from BYU, 7, Relief Brown, one of two Texas backs we talked about today. Six, Nate Frazier from Georgia, five, Antoine Raymond, from Rutgers, four,
Starting point is 01:31:37 Isaac Brown, big play threat out of Louisville, three, Amad Hardy, Missouri, two, Kiwan Lacey, Ole Miss, and number one, consensus number one for the stock exchange show, Jane Bois, Laura. We would love to hear from you guys. We know you've been, like I said, bowling us in the chat probably
Starting point is 01:31:52 and freaking out as our rankings have come out. But if you weren't watching in the live portion of the program, we would love to hear from you in the comments as well. We're trying to respond to a lot of comments that you guys have throughout summer scouting. I went back and I did that a little bit with the quarterback episode. We'll do the same thing for the running back episode as well. So if you got questions, if you got rankings, we'd love to see you guys as
Starting point is 01:32:10 rankings as well. You're running back rankings where you think about certain players, guys who are under the radar, guys who you'd love to. We missed. Yeah, stand on the table for guys that we missed. Absolutely. So let us know in the comment section. Like we said in the middle of the show, if you haven't subscribed to the program, we would love for you to be. We'd love for you guys to come back and hang out every single time that we do one of these summer scouting episodes. So like I said, at the top of the show, I am currently on vacation. So the next couple of weeks are going to look a little bit different. We will have,
Starting point is 01:32:38 wide receiver will be the next summer scouting episode that we get to. We're going to try to pre-record it the week before so we can get that to you over the next couple of weeks, but schedules, baby duties, it might not work out there. We'll have at least one more episode for you before I get back July 20th. But if we don't get to wide receivers before July 20th, then July 20th is when we will do the wide receiver episode. But we'll have something in between.
Starting point is 01:33:04 and the chef will cook something up in between so we make sure that the channel isn't just dark for two weeks. When you're out, I'll do a live with me or a guest or something. Okay. So we'll have that. And the schedule, we'll probably take one of those weeks off after this one. But then, like you said, you'll work out whatever you can on the next Monday. So like I said, summer scouting is either for wide receivers is either coming over the next
Starting point is 01:33:27 couple of weeks while I'm gone. We'll be able to pre-record it or at the very latest we will do it July 20th. And then we'll just really, every single Monday from that point until the season begins, we'll try to get through as many positions as we possibly can. Connor, anything else before we get out of here. No, man. I hope you're having a great vacation at this very moment while I mean, your words, elbow deep in diapers. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I hope you're enjoying the World Cup, brother. I hope you're sitting back and enjoying it. I hope it's a solid nap. And, yeah, we appreciate everybody. And obviously, we'll be back live with you in a couple of weeks here. So for the chef behind the scenes, making it all possible for Connor Rogers from Trevor Sykima, saying thank you guys so much for watching this episode of the summer scouting series in the NFL Stock Exchange Show. See you guys next time.

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