NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 2027 NFL Draft TE Rankings (SUMMER SCOUTING!)

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

BACK 2 BACK! Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you their Top 5 TEs in the 2027 NFL Draft. Summer Scouting! Subscribe to our YouTube Channel and help us get to 75k subs! It's 100% free and helps us out a bunch. Thanks! WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up 0:00 Intro 9:36 Peter Clarke, Temple / Football Starts Here 17:05 Lawson Luckie, Georgia 24:03 Jeremiah Hasley, Duke 28:24 Luke Reynolds, Virginia Tech 34:16 Terrance Carter Jr., Texas Tech 41:25 DJ Vonnahme, Iowa 43:50 Trey'Dez Green, LSU 55:21 Jamari Johnson, Oregon 1:00:43 Recap 1:01:24 Benjamin Brahmer, Penn State 1:02:38 Honorable Mentions 1:03:54 Outro Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Trevor Sica, McCona Rogers, back with you once again for the second time this week here for another summer scouting positional ranking episode. Today we were talking about tight ends for the 27 NFL draft. We're each going to give you our top fives, but there's a lot of tight ends that I feel like we're just outside of the top fives as well. So we'll talk about way more than 10 total guys here today. And for the people who are watching wondering if this is actually live because we said the edge rusher episode yesterday was not actually live. It was just sort of a live premiere on YouTube. Yes, we are actually live. And to prove it to you guys, to prove it to you guys,

I'm going to read out these comments here, which had us dying here to start the show. One, first and foremost, you guys knew that the second it was 401 and the show didn't start. It's kind of the giveaway. It's kind of the dead giveaway. Yeah. The late accusations were there.

We can never escape them. Yep. What's up, broke boys in the chat? Keegan said bonus Friday episode literally just hit that announcement in the Ed Rusher video had to hop over to the live

that's like have you seen have you seen the Spotify songs where you like you it's like fades from one to the other but it's like the perfect pairing of that that's exactly what Keegan just experienced for NFL stock on our channel yes that's a that's a pretty euphoric

biblical experience for Keegan Dr. Phoenix said Connor got to thaw the uncrustable. Yeah, it's just frozen on the desk. We had to wait to thaw out the uncrustable. I'm an uncrustable free agent right now.

Are you? Yeah, I haven't. Hit in the market? I mean, I just... You keep your eyes open? Yeah, well, see what happens when the season starts. Because you know that, you know, when the season starts, you and I are working our jobs, and then we run to do this show. I'm not yet as far as people know. Yeah. Wink, nod, nod as far as people know.

Right. So... Give it a week, folks. Yeah. So I haven't been needing one for sustenance to get through these. So I'm weighing my options right now. I'm taking meetings.

I don't know. What will lead to? We'll see. I told some of our big connections in the space we're open for business. The last comment. that we have is from a little brother. He says, is Clev Lubin? Clefmer? That's cleverer to you. Yeah, yeah, it's right. It's true. It's like William Helt.

Man, it's going to be tough when I meet Will Helt at the Combine. Are you going to call him William? Well, by accident, probably. I'm sure before the Combine, these guys get to let the NFL know what they prefer. Yeah. What if he puts William? That'd be awesome. Yeah. Then you're off the hook. It was just early. Yeah. Never on just early. It's so early. I'm calling him William. Yeah.

I called you William before that was your name. I love it. All right, tight ends. Obviously, they're all the rage, folks. We've got teams wanting the tight end position like never before, it feels like. I guess I can't say that because during the, you know, real football era. Well, there wasn't any of the sissy passing of the football going around. tight ends were pretty heavily emphasized.

But man, it feels like there's a resurgence, whether it is free agent money, whether it's a draft position. Teams want to not only nail this position for your tight end one, but also the quality of tight end two and tight end three that you have on your team, it just diversifies everything

that you can do on the offensive side of the ball. So nowadays, there are so many different ways to be effective and to make a roster from the tight end position. We talk about the more receiving tight ends and it doesn't just have to be in line. Sometimes that literally comes from maining in the slot or as an ex-receiver even.

And then, of course, you have the traditional more in-line type of tight ends, the guys who are, okay, maybe not big enough to play on the line of scrimmage next to the offensive tackles every play. But maybe they're a step behind the line of scrimmage. They're more of that wingback. You're running a lot of split zone type of run plays. Sometimes you can put those guys as like full blacks and lead blockers from that offset eye or eye formation as well.

So there's just a lot of different ways. to judge the tight end position now, especially when you're projecting to the NFL, Connor. And that's what makes, I think, the study of this position a lot of fun. And I really do wonder how different our top fives even are. Because normally, like, if you and I have a top 12, okay, 12 through 7, probably going to differ a little bit here and there, just because of the nature of you're getting further away from the very top of the class.

But I even think that here in the top five, we could have a handful of names that aren't in each other's lists. I think so. I think it's one of those groups where you're going to know some of the main characters at the top. But then after that, it just kind of fizzles into this very, very wide group with a, this is a position that there are different, such a variety of skills, right? I mean, Trevor, we go through this every year, especially with corner and tight end. You know, there's guys in these position groups that don't play the same alignments at all. So it almost feels like a different position.

Yes. It's like talking about in a way, the nickel. versus the outside corner in a way. That's kind of what on, you know, the offense version of that has become this era of tight end with all the move tight ends, the inline tight ends, the unicorns that can do everything, guys that are even kind of H-backs.

Chad is just out of control. Wait, what are they saying now? It's just everything. Okay. I see, I see somebody saying, Devil Ray's shirt goes hard. Love that shirt. That's right, baby.

That's right. Same record as the Dodgers, by the way. Don't you ever forget. He has stats in his pocket. That the Tampa Bay Rays have the same record as the Los Angeles Dodgers right now. Tell your friends. And I'm a baseball guy. I should know this.

But admittedly, I am more nationally pilled, I think, as the kids would say. Why did they just go to the race? Why was that rebrand a thing? Oh, I think because they were truly trying to exercise the demons of them being a terrible

franchise for as long as they were the devil race. So if you're poverty, you just change your name. I mean, obviously. Let's not get our money up, but if we change our name, they won't notice. They still spend no money. And they're really good every year. It still worked.

People wonder why they didn't trade for scoble, and it's because they're not going to give up any of their prospects. That's just not how they operate. It's not how they operate. And yet, and yet, and yet, I'll say it one more time. Same record as the Dodgers baby. Carter in the chat says, and three tight ends. that Trevor didn't watch. So you'll have your top five.

No, no, not for this one, folks. Not for a top five. Three of them I didn't watch. I even texted one today, my buzzer-beater, tight end. You did. You did. In our group chat. Who is a good tight end?

Yeah, I'm excited about him. Brady in the chat, I see you. He said, I've seen the stats. I'm looking at them right now. Hell, I'm looking at them right now. That's the real quote. You love to see it. One day I'll use that in a real argument.

I mean, I don't know where. I'm not really on content that argues. Are you saying like you'll unironically scream that at somebody? No. I hope you get on first take one day. Stephen A. Smith, Stephen A. Smith verbatim tells you, you don't even look at the stats and you just muscle memory go,

I'm seeing the stats. Hell, I'm looking at them right now. I'm telling you, I would do it. And you would know what it means. The people that listen to this show know what it means. For all the real, you know, crazy people that know it's my Twitter header would know what it means. But people on TV would be like, this guy's unhinged. What is it wrong with him?

Stephen A would take it in stride. Yeah, he would. He just keep going. I might get invited back. He'd just get louder than you. Yeah. Yeah, no, he would absolutely win in the New Yorker yelling match that would go on between us. Wait, he would out New York you?

He would out New York me, Stephen A. I don't like throw that around with pride, but no. I can't out in New York, Stephen A. No shot. You got to show up with a Taylor, hand, egg, and cheese on an everything bagel beforehand just to make sure that you, uh... Yeah, and let them know that it's... Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know the deal.

Let them know business. All right, let's do it. Let's get into the tight ends. We're only doing top fives. So, because it's only top fives, we'll reveal on each one by one. We got to keep the suspense up. You know, we got to make sure that we keep the watch time of the episode up. You guys know how it goes.

Connor, who's your number five? My number five is not from the United States of America. It is Peter Clark. Oh, okay. I thought you were about to international pathway program me. No, because Peter Clark has been at Temple for a couple years. Now he was in the NFL UK Academy, which I'm fascinated by. So he was also playing some form of American football overseas.

He's not one of those guys that, you know, he's just a rugby player and then you bring him over. Or we found him on a basketball court and you bring him over and hide him for five years. But those are always the ones that I love. Yeah. Hey, it's the same story like every time. Yeah, he's got big feet. So he just invited him to a camp. Yeah.

He wears a side 17 shoe. How do you not invite him to a camp? I saw him windmill dunk. and he's 6-6-250. He's at camp. That's actually probably more accurate scouting report than I can give for an offense. Good business if you can get it. If you can win-mill, yeah, pretty much.

Yeah, yeah, and bring him over on a scholarship. So Peter Clark at Temple, really interesting player, because with that, you know, overseas pathway to being a prospect now, you do see it in the game. The raw ability, 6-6-265 on paper, his spring measurements are pretty close to what they list him at, which is always nice. Shout at the temple for having, you know, honor, we'll call it.

He's 6.5.5, 263 in the spring. So, you know, last year, almost 500 yards, the six touchdowns. You see the body type right there. This is a legitimate in-line Y tight end. And they use him in line. There's not really trying to get queued and make him a slot receiver all the time. Or, you know, he's got the body type to play in line. They use them in line.

line a lot. And then the raw ability, to me, the raw strength and effort as a blocker to be physical is very good. It is. Like he's determined. He puts in the effort. He's naturally very, very strong. He's probably worked very, very hard in the weight room. And you see that effort there. And when he lands on his assignment, he's a very strong player. And I think he gets on top of linebackers in the run game very smoothly. I was impressed. Usually players that are raw and developmental, whether they don't know how to get out of the gate the right way or they overshoot. Like he's very good to get into the second level and landing on his assignment. Now, when he gets there, his hands are all over the place. They're coaching this up.

They're trying to get those hands to be more precise. They're going to have to be more precise at the NFL level. And the reason I started with the blocking is, and once again, this is a player that's six, five and a half over 260 in college. You're going to be drafting Peter Clark with the hopes that he's going to play that inline role for, you. I will say he's developing ball skills in traffic and contested situations, which is really promising. He's, I mean, he's been somewhat productive. He doesn't have great acceleration. He doesn't have great long speed, which means he's going to have to earn it in the middle of the field and get ready to get hit or you have a linebacker or a safety all over you. But he's physical through the

catch point. So Peter Clark, tight end five to me, Trevor, because from a developmental trajectory, He's on a promising one right now. And you think this guy was in the UK Academy not that long ago. Now he's an actual factor in college football with an NFL body. I'm glad that you brought this player up. By the way, Bryce in the chat saying he can't host the pod. Yes, it's 6'6, 265 pounds. He does indeed clear the 6-4 240-pound measurements that you need to host the pod.

Peter says he looks like two Trevor stacked on top of each other. It's just out of line. Yeah, just with a trench coat. We haven't been live in a long time. and it's just not even a warm welcome back. No, the chats in mid-season form already, which how can you not be after seeing, you know, Carson Beck and Haynes King

actually duel it out like the next Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in the Hall of Fame game. That was the real Thursday night hell in a cell. I could not believe what I was watching. Electricity. Now, only if you bought it, imagine if you bought a ticket. I truly can only imagine. Carson Beck looking that good in a situation where, let's face it, basically zero pass rush, right?

Like Carson Beck's played a ton of football before. So it's a situation where you're going up against mostly Carolina's backups. You're not getting any pressure at all. And he carved it up. Like he looked fantastic last night. But you kind of would expect him to look really good in that situation because he has that much experience. But he looked good and he's, I don't know, maybe he'll give Arizona something to think about pretty early. on in the season here.

Haines King looks like a quarterback. I was not familiar with your game being this consistent young man. That was, that was so much fun to watch. Beating the Tim Tebow allegations.

Yes. I'd say actually already slayed the Tim Tebow allegations. Hold on now. It's a little, that's a little far. A little far. Tim Tebow won a playoff game.

Can't forget about that. People do forget that. People did, not this podcast. Not this podcast. We can't do it. But that was fun. Anyways, Peter Clark, I had, Peter Clark was outside of my top five, but I understand why you really like him because I was talking with, um, Dolm Wasserman from the preferred walk-on show.

And he was saying that like, hey, Peter Clark's one of those guys who sort of has that like Jackson Hawes type of potential to him, right? Where he gets, he gets drafted because he's the mauler in the class. You've got a lot of these guys who are, you know, flashy receiver types of tight ends, but you want somebody who's going to be able to put their hand of the dirt, get dirty, play physical, be that extra offensive linemen on the field. Peter Clark feels like one of the best options, if not the best option, even right now, to potentially do that in the NFL.

The reason why he's a little bit lower for me is just because of sort of what you mentioned, even if when he reaches the spot that he needs to reach, sometimes he goes, uh, now what? Like, especially when blocking in space, I saw that, um, a little bit with him. But this is a player who, with another year coming up, if he takes a step up in sort of anticipation and how comfortable he is there, I could absolutely see a world where we see a lot of draft analysts sort of fall in love with him for what he is, as that in line, on the line of scrimmage type of tight end in this class.

Yeah. The style he plays at is my cup of tea. Yeah. You like that? Yeah. It's a UK joke. No, I got it. No, I got it.

No, I got it. I was letting to marinate. Thank you. Thank you for the ISO. I've really missed it. Nice to be here. I feel like the Joker. Absolutely feel like the Joker right now.

Not the Heath Ledger one, by the way. No, no. That's truly incredible. All right. I'm done. I'd like to sit out for a while. Like boo. Yeah.

My own family is downstairs booing me. Jeffrey said we have the cold open. Oh, man. It's the George Bush meme, sir. We have the cold open. Yes, sir. We have discovered the cold open. Okay.

My number five tight end. And you know what? It took me so long to quit Oscar Delt. Well, you never did. Why not just? You actually, you actually rode the Oscar tail bandwagon so long that it turned back around. And by the month of the draft, people were wondering if he was going to go in the top 50. That is very real.

Oh, man. I can't breathe. Oh, my gosh. Yes. We're going back to the well again, folks, because I'm nothing but consistent. here and the players that I believe in here. Lost and Lucky. He is the next one here from the Georgia pipeline of

tight ends who I think are really talented who for whatever reason never get the football. That's wild. Lost and Lucky. And they just stay. They don't go anywhere else. They just stay at Georgia. They just love ball, which, you know, Kirby Smart's one of the best coaches in all of college football.

Don't blame them. At like getting dudes to buy in and be competitively tough and all of those things that actually translate. into what I'm going to talk about, I'm like why I unironically like this player. So, lost and lucky, four-star tight end from the state of Georgia.

He was kind of a do-it-all player when he was in high school. I read that he played like quarterback. He played tight end. He played running back. He played a little bit of wide receiver. He played on defense as well. I mean, he did everything in high school. Played in seven games of true freshman in 2023.

And I remember in 2020, in 23, hearing some whispers of like a lot of people, I know they always like to say like, oh, just wait for this guy. But he's next. I heard a, I heard a, good amount of people who are saying like, man, Lawson Lucky is a really, really talented all-around player and he's going to be great.

But then over the next two years, especially with Oscar Delp in the mix still there, in 2024, played in 14 games, started half of them. And then last year, played in 14 games, started half of them.

Now, the starts, I think they can be a misleading stat, especially when you're on a team like Georgia, who's got a plethora of different tight ends that they can potentially go to, right? It kind of just matters, hey, what package of offensive play are we going to throw out there for the

first one? Is Lawson going to be out there? or is it Oscar who's going to be out there? And it really doesn't matter. It's kind of a coin flip. That's why I find it funny that it was 50-50 in both years, starting seven games out of 14. He is listed at 6 foot 4, 240 pounds.

So 240 pounds, obviously a little bit on the lighter side for an overall tight end. But when you look at this guy as more of just an overall offensive weapon, somebody who does play, who can play in line, but it's going to be much more of that like, okay, wing back, full back lead blocker, maybe wildcat option for you, a slot receiver, a guy who's the top of the triangle

and bunch sets. Like when you look at him like that, six foot four, 240 pounds is not really, I wouldn't call that like, again, small for the position, but not really small

for what he is going to be asked to do. And I think that that background for him of playing a ton of different positions in high school and being as versatile as he's been throughout all of college, it really lends into what he does well. I think he's super versatile in that snap count. And you see that from a lot of different places

that they will line him up on the field. The gas meter, which you talk about on this show, stands for Give a Shit, very high. And like I said, Kirby Smart instills it in these dudes. You have to be a football player. You've got to be a team first football player. We're going to win as a team. You've got to do your job. Sometimes it sucks the job that's in front of you, but you got to do it.

And I think Lost and Lucky is one of those players who does whatever is asked of him. He won't be a consistent winner in line as a blocker, but as a wingback, as a receiver, I do think that he can be an impactful player in the blocker. knocking game. Really nice hands. He's got the ability to have good body control, whether it's in the air or whether it's a pass that might be behind him and he's kind of overrun in the past being able to turn and still get his hands on it and reel it in.

He just was not utilized very much in the offense. I can't remember exactly what his stats were, but it wasn't. Well, the chef has the, like the box score stats right there. From 2025. But like even 24, though. Yeah. 24 was his best career year. 24 catches 348 yards, three touchdowns.

And then last year, 15 catches 158 yards and four touchdowns. They just didn't throw them the ball. And I think there's a little bit that goes into it with Gunner Stockton, who we talked a little bit about in the quarterback episode, not exactly being the most prolific passing quarterback. Gunner Stockton is out there because he is a great athlete. And he can do enough as a passer to win in college. but I think that that's why the tight end usage over the last couple of years at Georgia

just really has not had a lot of production. And I think that I am, all jokes aside, here once again, caping for a Georgia tight end, who I love the overall athletic ability for. I think he's got the body type and the strength to be super versatile and how he use him in the NFL. And I think that his talent outweighs the production that we've seen from him even over the last two years at Georgia. So with a less crowded room, we'll see how much they lean into him from

receiving game, but this is a player who I think can do a lot of things for your offense. Because of that, I got him at tight end five here. Definitely in the combo for me to be the fifth tight end, obviously wasn't. Because I agree with all the stuff you said at the end. Like, it's all there. But when that's your calling card or purpose and you're not productive, I'm just going to wait to see it this year. And I think he will be productive this year, honestly.

I think he's going to have a really good year. what I wouldn't ask of him is just, you know, and he's scrappy in the run game. He is. It's not effort. He churns his legs. He tries to maximize his strengths. He's not going to be a full-time inline guy at, you know, six three and a half. He's not.

No, he's not. No. So I totally get this one, Trevor. We talked about him last year, I believe. And he'll be, he will be more productive this year. It's just a matter of how much more because that was undeniably disappointing last year. Zach said the Oscar Delph Exchange. Yeah.

I mean, that's kind of what the show is at this. The new Delp. Jeffrey says he can't host a pod. No, he can host the pod. 6-4-240, so long as those are verified measurements. You know what's funny? His verified weight in the spring was 239. Oh, no.

Yeah. Yeah. Get away from the mic, brother. He'll probably be like 246 week one, no in Georgia. Get back. Get back out in the weight room. Not this time. Can't be podcasting now.

Okay. Who's number four for you? Tited number four. Jeremiah Haisley from Duke. Ooh, okay. He also just missed my top five, but I like him. I'm glad we're getting to talk about him more here. And I see you have Luke Reynolds from Virginia Tech.

He was the guy that was just on the outside looking in. So this is going to work out perfect because we're going to get to talk about more players, even though we had them in somewhat similar ranges or tiers. Right out of the gate, Haisley was the surprise watch of the group for me, the surprise watch. Didn't know anything about him really besides, you know, watching Menta film last year. but I wasn't like, oh, that's, you know, Jeremiah Haisley. So went into this exercise with a clean slate and was wildly impressed. 6.3 and a quarter, 252 is his spring measurements.

It's always nice. You get a little bump from the old listed height. He's actually a little taller than 6.3, a little heavier. So this is going to be a fifth year senior, but I think there's good context to that. I think number one, he was ruled out for the year in 2024 after two games with a season-ending leg injury. So he lost the year where he was going to be a starter and an impact player. And then he comes back last year from that injury. And that's exactly what he was.

Full-time starter, 40 catches, over 450 yards, six touchdowns. Right out of the gate away from the receiving numbers. I mean, this is just an impressive scheme diverse blocker. You watch him move an outside zone. You watch him combo block and inside zone. You watch him in a phone booth. I mean, it really doesn't matter what they ran. He's effective in the run game.

And that's a big compliment to a college tight end because you just don't see that a lot. You'll get the tight ends that, you know, whether it's on a wham or there's just certain things they can execute because they probably practiced it so many times or they're athletic enough for that, but not big enough for this. I really saw the full slate from Jeremiah Haysley as a blocker.

Dude, I love the full work. Like they asked everything. They asked him to pass protect. And he was, he was kick sliding out here. Like his, I was right away, was really impressed with the past protection footwork that he had, which you don't often see from tight ends. Without a doubt, you could park him next to a tackle

and he can be impactful helping your line. Yep. And he played 548 snaps in line last year. So he's asked to do it all the time. He plays with inside hands, good leverage, leg drive. But on top of that, I think he's great after the catch. I mean, great, powerful, tough, lays the truck stick all the time.

You watch him catch a pass underneath. He is going to run over people that just aren't as big as him. He generates momentum. He's probably got like four, six wheels, and that's enough at the size and what he does. So Jeremiah Haisley, to me, NFL kind of player, I mean, if you're looking to be a team that's going to run a lot of 12 personnel and you need a number two tight end. that you could ask block and you could dump the ball down to and he could gain some extra yards with his strength. I can't wait to see what this player does this year.

I was really, really impressed. What did you have him at for his updated weight? 252. Okay, okay. So, I mean, right around the same. Yeah, he might have had a little Caesar's pizza the night before. Maybe that's at the 250, you know, that's up to 252. Water retention from extra cream, whatever you want to call it.

Yeah, he played, he played, I read that he played linebacker, running back, and tight end when he was in high school. He runs like a powerback. As soon as he catches the ball, it's low center of gravity, shoulders through you, instant momentum. There's just a comfort there. It's not like he catches the ball and he's like, I don't get to do this a lot. It was a comfort there. Yeah, he's got a determined, I think, mentality when it comes to the after the catch stuff. I don't think he's going to be, you know, at least from what we saw last year, I don't see him as this guy who's really, you know, putting his foot in the ground and creating a lot of separation when it comes to, like, his routes and things like that. But he is tough when the ball is coming his way.

He's got that mentality to be able to run after the catch. And like I said, I just think he's a pretty high football IQ player. I mean, you look at the footwork, you look at the hands, you look at the determination, obviously the multi-position background there for him. And so this is a really solid player. I'm glad that you kind of got him in there and gave us a chance to talk about him a little bit because I'm also continued to be excited to see him this upcoming season, because I just think he's a really solid tight end who feels like a future NFL player probably is like a, I don't know, I have him, like is it late third, fourth round,

type of a tight end type of player. But yeah, we'll see what he could do this year and maybe it could be even better than that. So Luke Reynolds was poor for you, right? Yeah, I think Luke Reynolds can be really good, man. I think this is one where if you're just looking at the 2025 tape, I can understand, like, where you might have him just outside of the top five. But the fact that he is going into his true junior season,

and I'm watching what he's doing, I look at the body type, the explosiveness, the strength that he has, how he can even put on a little bit more weight and strength, I think, pretty easily. It gets me really excited about the potential of this kid. So they got almost at 6'4, 250 pounds. But like I said, I think he can get even a little bit bigger than that. he's a true junior at Virginia Tech. He was at Penn State,

and then he followed James Franklin to Virginia Tech when he made the switch over. Well, he didn't make the switch. He got canned by Penn State, and now he's hired by the Hokies, which I love the fact that he's hopefully going to make Virginia Tech relevant again because I think life is fun when Virginia Tech is good. Environment's nuts.

He's a four-star tight end in his recruiting class. Three-year letter winner in basketball. Also earned the coach's award in basketball. Don't know what his stats were. You know all the stats, but you got the postseason awards. Oh, I got the postseason awards.

The pizza party trophy. He started four games in true freshman season. And then he played in 13 games last year. I can't remember how many he started. Penn State had a lot of tight ends. So it wouldn't surprise me if that number of starts is further down. But I don't think that's a, I don't think that's an indictment on like his level of play.

I watched Luke Reynolds pretty. late in the process. So watch probably 10 tight ends before I got to him. And when I typed, when I popped on his tape and watched his movements in the slot or in line or out of the backfield, it was different. I thought than most of the other tight ends that I had studied,

especially ones who have the weight profile that he does, who can play in line. He's got explosive movements out of his stance. I also think he converts speed to power as a blocker. Like if you, there were a handful of times where I can't remember who the other tight end that they had was somebody's attached to the line scrimmage

as the tight end and he's off the line of scrimmage as a wing back. I thought they do that all the time. Some sort of split zone where most of the offensive lines going to the left and he's coming behind the line of scrimmage and he's coming from the right and he's taken on the defensive end

or whatever defender is crashing down. And when he would get a runway, he converts speed to power and a bulrush like a defensive end would. And he would run into whatever defender was in front of him. and he'd pop them pretty good. So I love the power that he could play with there.

He's got experience, plenty of experience as a versatile blocker. Good baseline of technique as well. Not that it's perfect, but I see the hands constantly shooting inside. I see the feet constantly, you know, like underneath the hips, underneath the shoulders. So he's very balanced. He's very strong in how he approaches blocking as well. He's got a desire to be a playmaker after the catch, although I think that that sort of mentality for making guys miss is still a work in progress.

But he wants to get up feel like he wants to get. get those yards after catch no matter what. And he's got above average flexibility and body control when it comes to routes and separation. If you want to put him in line full time in the NFL, I think he's a little bit undersized. And then I think that there are times when you watch him and you got to, you remember that, oh, yeah, you're just a true sophomore in this tape that I'm watching here. Right. Man, for a guy who is going into his true junior season, built the way that he has built,

the explosiveness and potential that he has as an athlete and already what I'm seeing as a blocker. I think this is a very versatile all-around tight-end prospect who if he takes the next level, I think we're going to be talking about somebody who could be a potential top 50 type of a tight end. I don't think he's there yet, but I think this kid can be really good. Definitely a projection player right now where I agree with a lot of what you said. I think he's really fiery as a run blocker too, considering, you know, they had a springway to 246, which I'm not saying that's small, but like you pointed out, Trevor, he's a younger player are still growing into a tight end frame.

So the attitude is there. He's kind of got a brawler attitude. Want to see him more productive. He did have a couple drops in the limited opportunities he got that he'll have to clean up. But the skill set and the age definitely is more promising for him. I got a couple people in the chat telling me to look at the stats. The stats aren't impressive. Don't care.

He has, he only had 26 receptions last year. 257 received yards. No, I think they want the basketball stats. Oh, the basketball stats. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know what the basketball stats are. You know what? I'm going to do a little digging here.

You do a little digging. Yeah, so it's funny. You have this situation with Luke Reynolds where he goes from Penn State to Virginia Tech, and then Penn State brings in Benjamin Brommer from Iowa State. Of course, the new thing is now, when you get a transfer quarterback, you usually bring his friends with him.

so that's not surprising. But a lot of draft relevant tight ends with some kind of previous or future Penn State ties. You know what? Stats aren't available. I'm just going to assume he was averaging, I'm going to assume that he was averaging 17.6 points per game and 6.9 rebounds per game.

All right, you're not going to give him a double double on average. No, no, no. I can't do that. But that's what I'm, yeah, that's respectable. Just by watching his football tape, I'm going to go out to say that those were his high school basketball stats because those are definitely translatable. I'll go with that.

All right, tight end threes. Tighten threes. Tighten three for me was Texas Tech, Terrence Carter. Oh, okay. Tighten three for you. All right, there we go. Texas Tech, Terence Carter. I wondered if you were going to have Terrence Carter in here.

Yeah, Terrence Carter. of course a very specific brand of tight end that's why that's why i wondered if you would have them in the top five fifth year senior as they're the honorable uh height and weight spring was actually six two and a quarter so he's a smidge taller than that 242 and he looks it on tape he looks yeah he looks lighter because he's a dynamic player in terms of being a pass catcher yep like you're not asking you're not going to ask him to play in line at the NFL level, in my opinion, on a down-by-down basis. Now, at Tech, they line them up everywhere, even the backfield at Texas Tech.

But when they did ask him to play in line, Trevor, he was overmatched by power and size. Almost always. Always. Like, it's the defensive ends, the linebackers. Just don't do it. It's just, yeah, it's just a waste of time and the skill set. Because that's not what he's good at, and that's not why he's there. what he is good at and what he has been good at now for two years,

because in 2024 for Louisiana Lafayette, he had 48 catches for almost 700 yards. And then last year, at Tech, he had 55 catches for 624 yards and five touchdowns. College tight ends just don't produce over a two-year span the way Terrence Carter Jr. has. Yep. So you have to do.

And production, we weigh when it matters and when it doesn't and the scale of how much it matters versus how much it doesn't. College tight ends that are this productive. at some point you're just like, yeah, I'm going to tip my cap. Like when you think of Trey McBride, so insanely productive at Colorado State, Harold Fanon, so productive at Bowling Green. I'm not saying he's that level of prospect, but when a tight end is such an outlier production-wise, it does mean something.

And here it is. He's a short area separator, quickness, detailed footwork. Yeah. He consistently picks up extra yards after the catch with contact balance and straight line urgency. it's catch the ball, let me get upfield. Let me not try to be a slot receiver or a scat back. Let me get upfield. He's still over 240 pounds.

So he's got some power after the catch. Good analytics in terms of yards per route, run, 85th percentile. And then honestly, I think he's pretty reliable at tracking the ball and catching the ball. When you even watch the few drops he has, like I'm not really putting a lot of those on him. I think he sees the ball. It's a volume thing probably too. Like you just throw somebody the ball enough. They're going to have some drops.

Like it just is what it is. Right. So Terrence Carter Jr., to me, Trevor, in this league of all shapes and sizes at tight end, is a very, very interesting chess piece kind of player. Yeah. Basically just a receiver, right? I mean, like, he's only a tight end just from the label that the team gives him. He's basically a receiver, right?

He's a slot receiver. He's a big slot receiver. But he wins a lot like that. And I think it's going back to kind of like what you were talking. about with production. Production certainly doesn't mean everything. I think that we all know that now. But I think there is something to being familiar with having your hands on the football

and doing the important and impactful things that an offense wants you to do. Like I think about that with running backs as well. It's a little less of a, one in one example with running backs, but like, there are some running backs who just score a lot of touchdowns. And when they get close to the red zone, they know what to do. They know how it goes.

They know where the clutter's probably going to be, but you know what? They know how to fall forward into the end zone. They know how to like use that small space of their advantage. Why? Because they have experience doing it. If you score a lot of touchdowns in college, you just, it's what you do.

You get in the end zone. And sometimes, I'll watch, even like really talented backs that like don't have a lot of touchdown experience, sort of almost like not know what to do when they get in the red zone or near the goal line. And I think that it's a little bit more of a better example when you talk about things like Terrence Carter. And I think that Harold Fanon was a really great example of this. I liked Harold Fanon Jr. as a prospect. But I was like, he's got to go to a spot basically that will that will base that will lean into him

somewhat similarly to the way that Bowling Green did. And if he doesn't go there, I feel like he might just get sort of lost in the shuffle and washed out. But he went to a place where the second they needed him, which Cleveland needed him, to step up as a receiver, he's like, yeah, okay. I mean, you can give me 15 targets a game. It's just another, it's just another weekend. That's what I did my entire career, basically, when I began the starting tight end at Bowling Green. And so, like, with Terrence Carter, you look at a player who this much production, I mean, it's just what he does. He gets open, they throw in the ball, he catches it.

Like, there's no, there's no pressure, there's no overthinking. Like, it's just what he does. And I think there is something to that confidence that you already have in being a higher volume player going to the NFL. As long as you can physically make it, as long as you can athletically make it, I think the mentality is something that really helps you be able to hit the ground running and do some of those similar things when you get into the league. So, yeah, I have him in number three as well, but I see him very similarly.

the good is all the receiving stuff. He'll tempo is routes. He'll tempo is his explosiveness. And when he's cutting to gain that subtle separation, he's good in breaking routes, outbreaking routes, double moves I've seen from him. Good hands, good yards after the catch.

Is he a blazer after the catch? No. Is he a monster when it comes to contest the catches? No. Do you want him in line all the time? No. But is somebody who can do so many other things just from a volume,

be where you need to be, have reliable hands, create that separation standpoint, that can be valuable to some teams in the NFL. So not the most obvious, hell yeah, we're drafting this tight end in the top 50 type of a player, but somebody who I absolutely think can be a productive pro, yes. Right. The question is, where is he going to fall between the spectrum or the scale of John Hussmith Harold Fanon, higher end, Jeheme Bell, right?

Like that's always like the thing you're trying to figure out with these guys. I think he is a good enough route runner and separator that there's already a better floor to get away from the Jeheme Bell level. There are ways where you can see him producing in the league like right off the back. Yes. Now is a team going to play him in that role only and totally mitigate the weaknesses? I don't know. It depends on the landing spot. Yeah.

But there's a there's a. world where we see him playing well. Maloney in the chat has said a couple of things about DJV, which is DJ Vonami. Did you watch him the tight end from Iowa? I did not. No. So I did. So I watched DJ Vonami. He's only a red shirt sophomore going into this season. And so I think a lot of the best tape from him is going to be played this upcoming year. So I think that we'll talk about him a little bit more as the season goes on. But he's 6'4, 240 pounds as well. he's similarly built to the way that Terrence Carter is. He's got a hell of a multi-sport background.

I mean, he played basketball. He played two years of soccer. He played track. He was 100-meter sprinter, 200-meter sprinter, walked on at Iowa, actually. Redshirted his first year. It's nuts. Started five games last year,

and that's why I think a lot of people are really excited about him. But, I mean, he was only a two-star tight-end recruit, and he played a ton of positions, including quarterback in high school. So he was kind of this do-it-all athlete, but they've packed on at least 30 pounds on him since his recruiting days to become like an actual serviceable tight end type of a player. So last year was the first year that you really saw things from him.

He's got a slender build. But obviously like he's put on good size since. I think he put on a little bit more muscle as well. He's got a nice first step explosiveness. He's got some good juices and overall athlete. I just think that like lacks the sand in the pants to really be a presence anywhere near the line of scrimmage consistently, especially as the inline role. And I think he just shows inexperience.

So he is, Bonami is, I can understand why people are excited about him. I wouldn't put him in my top five because you just, to me, there's even from a projecting standpoint, there's too much that we still need to see from him in that, in that regard. But I did watch him and I can understand why people are excited to continue to see him. It's always that we always talk about this, Trevor, we're very transparent with the audience that, you know, we try to pick our spots with those leap of faiths. So it's cool when you guys in the chat have one like that. I mean, we do it at times.

We're like, hey, this guy, he hasn't blown up yet, but I expect him to because I just believe in the traits that much. And it's hard to, uh, it's hard to deny an Iowa tight end, right? I mean, seriously. Yeah. How could you not? Yeah. BG said, uh, just got caught up.

And the first thing I hear is Trevor saying, standing in the pants. Yeah, well, you got caught in the right time. You're in the right place. Yeah, it's a real scouting. Yeah. Yeah, have a seat at the bar. All right. I'm so curious.

Who's number two for you? Did you fall for the cheese? or are you a real man of character? No, I probably fell for the cheese here. Number two for me is Jamari Johnson. No, you just. Yeah, there it is. You just.

How about Ayrid boy saying fall for the cheese? You just absolutely. I mean, you're just. You're sheep. Oh, my God. You're just sheep. You're just following the pack. Just following the pack?

We're the only lunatics ranking all the freaking tight ends. There's no other giraffe contest to consume. this time of year. That's actually true. No, it's not totally true. There's nowhere to get any other, anyone else's rankings right now. That's not true.

Some people are still pumping them out. But the ones who have Trade As Green over Jamari Johnson are wrong. I didn't see a, I don't really have a hard stance like you on this issue. No, I didn't, I don't either. I wasn't really blown away by this group. No, they're, no. They're very even.

I think that obviously we'll talk about. Don't put in the news that I said everyone's a sheep for having Tradesh Green, number one. Do not put that in the newspaper. Don't make me out in New York, you. Yeah, yeah. Do not try. All right. Let's talk about Tradez Green because you got him in number one.

And he is fun. He is a fascinating, prosperity. There you go. That brings a lot of, you just call them undraftable. Yeah, of course. You know, you always have. to do that, right? You got to be, you got to make sure that you put them in their place. You can't have them too high and mighty, especially for somebody who's a true junior.

You know, you got to make sure that they know their place before they're, uh, they're coming up and, uh, and deserve the title. But tell the people about trade as green, who you obviously think it's just the next Travis Kelsey. So yeah, that's right. That's my actual cop. Um, can't wait to see what pop star he marries and gets married at Madison's where garden. So trade as green, who is six, six and three quarters, by the way, for all you, heathens out there, Oh, he's six and three quarters. Oh, man. 238.

Typically, and especially when we get closer to the draft, I don't, you know, fall for the, the freaky tight end, as you were kind of alluding to, like all of the bells and whistles. I like the, you know, like the guys that can block and do their job and plan the line of scrimmage and have a floor. All jokes aside, though. Brohmo's in the chat and he's saying I too enjoy the cheese. So I think the Broshmo is with you,

and Trey, is. Because this one's different. Like, I'm not going to sit here and, and we'll get more answers this year, but you just got to start with the, the strains where he has a unique ability to open up and run.

It looks like a wide receiver as soon as he does that. When he opens up and run, like coverage panics, it's like, okay, he's taller than six foot six. Wait a second. he can accelerate like that.

So now I'm so worried about being in the perfect position because he has such a bigger catch radius and height than me. But now all of a sudden I'm losing position because he runs so much better than I expected. There are just tons of highlight real catches. Climbing the ladder. He is dangerous in contested situations. I think he has really good hands.

I know he's been tracked with five drops. I thought the five drops that he was tracked for were just unrealistic expectations for him to catch the ball from bad throws. Where I'm like, yeah, he got his hand on it because he has inspector gadget arms. He's taller than a small forward in the NBA. The throw sucked.

So don't give him the drop. Like that's the problem sometimes when you have to watch. If you're getting into scouting, I can't advise you enough and you follow tracking systems. Always watch the drops. It's really great that they're logged in this era. But not all drops are. created equal.

Here's the thing that's going to be the really tricky part of him being a high-end prospect versus just an interesting guy. The effort and desire as a blocker is there. It's there. He's not just, I'm this sick athlete that can make plays down the field. LSU asked a lot of him as a Y tight end and asked a lot of him with his assignments. He does not have the mass in his lower half right now.

And it'll always be an uphill fight for leverage with him as a blocker. He's so damn tall. He doesn't have thick legs yet. So it's going to be hard. He's tough. He's tough. He's scrappy. He tries.

It's not a liability. But we're talking about the top tight ends. So we're going to nitpick here. But he's freaky as an offensive weapon. There's no denying that, Trevor. Are we talking about the top tight end? This is the top tight end. Okay.

I'm just giving you shit. No, I think that a lot of the strengths that you highlighted are very true about him. And anybody that watches him, it's easy to get just, I mean, wide-eyed about some of the things that he do. Go watch the South Carolina game, everybody. Like, go watch the South Carolina game of him. He has eight catches, like 119 yards in a touchdown. And six of those catches are absolutely sick. One of them is just an absolute moss for a touchdown that he has.

And that's the game that you want to pop on to say, there's nobody that South Carolina had that could cover him. And that's kind of why you would draft him. That's why you would prioritize him. Right. You know what, I agree with you. I don't think that he shies away from the competitiveness of blocking. I just don't think he's going to be good at it.

Like I just, I don't think it's ever going to be in his wheelhouse. I think you are drafting trade as green to play in the slot and be an ex-receiver. Like that is what you are drafting him to do. I don't really think that you could put him in line. If you do, I think it's a negative. He was, I think it can. consistent negative when he was close to line scrimmage.

And again, it's not from willingness. He just doesn't have that type of frame to him. And it's really hard for him to get low and keep that pad level low. He does have that basketball background to him. No idea what the basketball stats were. I'll say he averaged 31.3 points per game just because of how sick of an athlete is. Five dunks a game. You know who he actually reminds me of?

Kelvin Benjamin. Like, I think he's what Kelvin Benjamin was at Florida State. Not when Calvin Benjamin got, because when Kelvin Benjamin got, Because when Kelvin Benjamin got to the NFL, I think, I don't know if he just put on too much weight or Carolina wanted him to put on more weight or like whatever it was. But like he just wasn't able to move the way that he needed to. Like he could still do the contest to catch stuff. But I'm talking about go watch Kelvin Benjamin when he was at Florida State. That to me is what Trades Green sort of like needs to be.

And Kelvin Benjamin first round pick, right? He was back into the first round? I believe so. What was he like third, like pick 31? or something definitely back end i or top of the second i can't remember like i think i think he's faster that's yeah i thought this guy reminded me as a college darren waller that's what he reminded me of i don't think he i don't think he moves laterally like waller did yeah i mean waller's a pretty unique athlete i think this guy is too there's not going to be a lot of darren wallers in the history

of the NFL. Right, right. But Waller was 6'6 and an 8th inch, 238, long arms, straight line speed, vertical. That was, I don't think anybody, obviously, because Waller was a sixth round pick, which with a really interesting background. And, you know, Waller is such an interesting player to talk about because he had back-to-back seasons of over 1,100 yards. But he also, and he has.

had some good years, but he had like this two-year peak that was so insane. That was crazy. Yeah. And he, you know, and he kind of, it took a little while to get there and then. But trade as green style-wise, that's who I saw. To be honest with you, I think when I'm looking at trade as green, there's not a ton that he doesn't do well from what you are drafting him to be. right like I think he gets docked in his scouting report for me because I'm looking at him through a tight end lens so blocking an inline play I even have I haven't divided like I haven't divided into like I have different

weighted formulas for what would be like an F tight end or receiving tight end and then a Y tight end. So I have different formulas because if I think you're more on the line of scrimmage I want to give you more credit for the blocking stuff and like if you're not as good of a receiver it doesn't matter too much because you're still bringing value in the blocking game and then if you're if you're more of an F tight end more of a receiving tight end. I want to make sure that that's the stuff that's weighted more heavily. And like the blocking stuff still exists if you're going to be called a tight end. But like it doesn't, it's not as big of a deal.

Even through the sort of like F tight end receiving tight end formula that I have for him, there's still, I just think too much of a negative with his blocking profile right now. But what you look at what he does do really well, there's not a lot else that I would ask, genuinely ask a near 6'7 240 pound receiver to do. And he's super explosive. Even if he's not the most fluid in his routes, I mean, for his size, size adjusted, it's totally fine.

So I think it really just comes down to, I think Jamari Johnson's more well-rounded and can do more things for you on a consistent down-by-down basis. And that's why I like him a little bit more. but Trades Green for the role that you are going to want him to play, yes, I think that he does that very well and he has that skill set that can even stand out in the NFL. Yeah, and I'm definitely leaning into some projection here where this guy is a true junior, where Jamari is going to be a redshirt junior.

So Jamari does have one full year ahead of him physically, where Trades, I mean, when he shows up at the NFL Combine one day, he's going to be 250 pounds. You think? Yes. I mean, if you guarantee me that he's 250, then I think we're having a way. I know he doesn't have a listed birthday, but he's a true junior. He's probably 19 or 20 years old. So, and he, dude, he's, he's, his frame can definitely carry.

He's a young player. I don't think it's going to be perfect, but he's not going to come into the combine at his at 238. Let me see if they had a spring wait for him. Yeah, 238 is his spring weight. So Park, Park horse said trade is green, future Baltimore Raven. Yeah? I mean, this is the kind of athlete. That's the kind of guy that I feel like they go for that they like.

That they like. It's true. They like the different kind of athletes. I know they really liked Kenyon Sadiq in last year's draft. Somebody in the chat way longer ago was talking about Charlie Kohler, who they drafted. So I say it likely. Let's talk about Jamarie Johnson. I haven't won.

You haven't two. Redshirt Jr. at Oregon, you mentioned that. I've got them listed at 6'4.5 and 256 pounds. This is one where I don't know what the most updated one, because I have a spring weight as 245. I thought Dane had updated weight and height for him. It's certainly possible. That might be where I got that from. I didn't think he on tape last year, I would be floored if he's hovering close to 260.

I didn't think he looked anywhere near that on tape. But I'm sure he's getting bigger and stronger right now for this year. I mean, I thought he looked 250. Maybe. I thought he looked well, well filled out for the time. end position. Former three-star tight end. Played quarterback, but also played tight-end, wide receiver, running back, and defensive end in high school as well. Committed to Louisville, played in five games and redshirted in

2023, played in seven games and then missed the rest of the 2024 season due to an ankle injury, transferred over to Oregon, started 10 games of the 15 that he played, and that's even with Kenyon Sadiq on the team there. I think he's got legit size to be able to play in line and in the slot in the NFL. I think you could ask him to do both, and I think he's to be able to do it physically. He's got good strong hands with good body control. He's got good coordination with his hands to be able to come up with off target passes or a handful of times when the pass was a little bit behind him or

it was a little bit away from his frame and he was able to either extend one hand or both hands and reel them in. And I was pretty impressed with that hand eye coordination, strength and just body control that he had at his size. I think he's a pretty natural mover. Again, hovering right around 250 pounds, which I was pretty impressed with. I give a lot of credit to the multi-position background that he had. when he was playing in high school,

playing all those different positions. I think he's got a pretty strong punch of contact, too. I mean, when he played in line, because a lot of times they'd ask him to play in line, and then Sadiq would play off the line of scrimmage so they can move them. Right. And when Jamari Johnson, you know,

would come off the ball and he'd get his hands up. I mean, even defensive ends, he'd get his hands up and inside, and defensive ends are jolted back a little bit. Now, I think that, you know, there are a handful of D-Ns that, you know, could take the contact and can take the pop and then really sort of dictate the rep after that. But a lot of times it's a tight end,

end when you are asked to block, it's, it's kind of unfair to sit here and say to a tight end, like, hey, one-on-one block this defensive end and make sure that he's not getting to the quarterback for three seconds. I mean, who does that? Like George Kittle and that's, and maybe some other specialized guys in the league. Prime grunk. A lot of times what you are asked to do, even as an inline tight end is, hey, give this guy, you know, give this guy a good stinger, give him some pop, get him off his, get him off his

path to the quarterback and just delay it a little bit, you know, get in his way. And I think that when you can do that the way that Jamari Johnson can, that to me is a valuable inline, tight end type of player, especially when you compliment that with the type of receiver that he is. I don't think he's like this rare route runner when it comes to that, you know, change of direction ability. But I think he's, I think he's decent at it. And like I said, like I think he's serviceable when it comes to, you know,

popping defensive linemen and getting in their way. But, you know, is he going to, you know, move guys off the ball the way that Kittl and Gronk and those guys at the top bar? No, it's not quite that level. We're not talking about that quite, that type of a tight end prospect. But I do just think he's got great all around game. I think that this is a player who you could play in line, you could play as a wingback, you could play in the slot,

you can do a lot of different things with Jamari Johnson, and I think he's very reliable and well above average in a lot of different areas. And I think that versatility is huge when you talk about the league wanting to get into more 12 personnel, getting into heavier personnel sets. This is a type of player who I think can really do that for you. Yeah, I think for him, he's someone that is pretty good at a lot of things.

I don't really think he's elite at anything. He's got soft hands. I like in his routes. I like in his routes. He does a really good job tying his feet to his upper body. He'll have detailed footwork, but he'll also throw in head fakes and shoulder movement

to really sell his routes. And it makes up for what I saw was average speed. I thought he was very average speed. laser, but I think he's a pretty natural mover. You know, like, I think he is. I think he is. My biggest problem in terms, and they asked a lot of him as a blocker. Because he brought it up, they had Sadiq.

So like, hey, dude, you got to play on the line of scrimmage if you want to be on the field. Kenyon's going to get moved around. His blocking is so high variance. He'll have a block where you're like, I could ask this guy to block all the time. And he's going to constantly execute his assignment. And then he has a lot of whiffs, a lot of whiffs, where I'm like, he's got to dial that in because physically it's there. I've seen some really, really good reps.

But I just thought there was a lot of whiffs on tape as a blocker where I don't, I'm not as confident in him in line consistently as you are right now. That's probably our difference. That's the difference where that's the thing I want to see him grow into this year. But he's tied in two in this class. So I think pretty highly of him for sure. I mean, some would even say he's tight end one in this class. Some would.

Some would. Some would. Just me and you out here doing tight end rankings. That's true. It's very true. Recapping the tight end rankings. I'll let you go first. You talk about you're five to one and then I'll go five to one.

Five, Peter Clark at Temple for Jeremiah Haisley at Duke. Three, Terrence Carter, Texas Tech. Two, Jamarie Johnson at Oregon. And Trades Green from LSU is number one for me. Number five, I cannot quit. my love for Georgia tight ends lost and lucky is at number five number four Luke Reynolds from Penn State now at Virginia Tech number three Terrence Carter Jr. number two trade is green and number one Jamari Johnson we would love to hear from you guys hit us up in the comments let us know what

you think of this tight end class some of the tight ends that maybe we didn't hit on is there anybody else I think a lot of people are going to talk about um Benjamin Brommer yeah brought him up earlier Iowa State who's now a Penn State I think that he's a pretty good player also listed at 6'7, 250 pounds, more of that receiving type. Definitely. Not a blocker. No, not a blocker. But, brother, Iowa State, one, led the nation in heavy personnel sets. They led the nation in multi-tight-in sets.

The way the sport was meant to be played. I think they had a rotation. I think they had a rotation of four tight ends at any point in time could be on the field. It was pretty damn crazy. I kept watching because I was watching these games for Benjamin Brommer, and I was like, you have to go look for him. I'm like, because his number was 18.

And I'm like, who's 82? Who's 84? Who's 87? Like these guys who are like making big time blocks, making good catches. And I was like, what is this? And so I think a couple of those guys are either coming up in this class or in future classes as well. But I wanted to touch on him just because I think a lot of people like him from a receiving

perspective, but he didn't quite. make my top five but wanted to just shout him out there. That's definitely the guy to bring up. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody else? Oh, Gabe Berkel was the other guy from Iowa State who is now at Penn State. Who's moving over there with.

So yeah, they brought both of them. Right. North Fleet was the only other one that I feel like was hovering for me but didn't make it. Don't know who that is? Yeah, he's at Missouri. Didn't watch him. So, yeah, I mean, this was a. You know what?

We got to it. We got, you know, we didn't have a tight end that I did, that you watched that I didn't watch. And here we are. We finally got to it at the end of the episode. You love that. Had to sneak it in. You did. It's at the end of the episode, so the chef's going to kill me.

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Yeah. Been told there is a. generational prospect. That's the rumors. In the cornerback class. We're talking about Leonard Moore from Notre Dame. We'll see. We'll see.

We'll put that generational tag to the test to quote King Leonidas. And we'll see if he actually stands up to it there. But I think this quarterback class is really good. It's not going to be a Monday episode. I believe it's going to be a Wednesday episode for you guys because there's a lot of corners that we want to watch. So we need a little bit of extra time there. So we'll have one episode for you next week.

It'll be on Wednesday. And then we will be back. We will finally be back the following week to our regular schedule of Mondays when we are releasing these episodes. So Wednesday next week, same time as always, 4 p.m. Eastern. Well, if you watch these episodes a lot, you know, it's probably 401 or 402 because we're late. And then the following week we'll get back to Monday. Connor, anything else before we get it.

No, I think you covered it real well. It's good to be slowly catching up on summer scouting. Yes, yes. Way ahead of everyone else. I don't know which one it is. We're way ahead of everybody else, but we're behind our own standards. It's the Matthew McConaughey speech.

You got to give yourself somebody to chase. That's right. You know? We're always chasing ourselves for the next draft season. Make sure we're doing it better than ever. All right, I see a lot of super chats. We're going to get to the super chats here in the after the episode portion of the show. So if you're watching live, stick around for that.

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