NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 2027 NFL Draft WR Rankings (SUMMER SCOUTING!)

Episode Date: July 20, 2026

WE'RE BACK! Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you their Top 12 Wide Receivers in the 2027 NFL Draft. Summer Scouting returns! Subscribe to our YouTube Channel and help us get to 75k subs! It's 100% free and helps us out a bunch. Thanks! WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up timestamps: 0:00 Intro 10:58 7-12 Rankings Reveal 13:23 Reed Harris, Arizona State 17:45 Omarion Miller, Arizona State 23:14 Duce Robinson, Florida State 30:46 Jaden Greathouse, Notre Dame 36:51 Junior Sherrill, Vanderbilt 40:50 Cooper Barkate, Miami 47:03 Amare Thomas, Houston 50:27 T.J. Moore, Clemson 54:24 Bryant Wesco Jr., Clemson 58:35 1-6 Rankings Reveal 59:40 Ryan Coleman Jr., Alabama 1:07:36 Mario Craver, Texas A&M 1:15:09 Nick Marsh, Indiana 1:20:26 Charlie Becker, Indiana 1:26:13 KJ Duff, Rutgers 1:31:12 Cam Coleman, Texas 1:37:51 Jeremiah Smith, Ohio State 1:46:55 1-12 Recap 1:47:52 Honorable Mentions 1:51:11 Outro Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Your Cam Ward hate is wild. He will prove you wrong. Hate? He's in a tier with Jane Daniels and Arch Manning. Chef, can you make a new tier? You're going to have to put Cam Ward in his own tier. Greatest ever. Thank you.

The opening bell, the NFL Stocky Shane show. Trevor Sycambe, O'Connor Rogers, back with you guys after, man, so much time off, honestly. You guys absolutely killed it while I was gone. Obviously, the clip from the solo episode. you were tearing the quarterbacks was incredible. We're coming off of Chef Week where the chef, our producer took over the channel and made some videos that normally we don't make. But I absolutely loved it because the chef is one of the most creative people that we've ever met.

Appreciate you guys out there embracing all the creativity in the new episodes that we had for last week. But, Connor, I've waited what? Four or five weeks to ask you this question? Oh, man. How you doing, my friend? I'm great, brother, because you're back. that's why that's what it's all about the boys are back the fellas are back we're buzzing we've missed you the people have missed you a much earned vacation for mr worldwide respect don't do that don't do that because pit bull will come through the wall like the kool-aid man and immediately stop the podcast for copyright and be like absolutely not all right we'll call you i don't know we'll find a cool nickname for you

but before it's you know a little peek behind the curtain here if you're wondering like just how much in shambles I am right now. I am ready for the receiver episode. I think I've watched got it to be like 25. Whoa. Whoa. Hold on, Big Dog. I've had, hold on, Big Dog. I've had a month to watch them. Whoa, you watch more than me.

I don't leave the house. Well, actually, that's a lie. Today was my first day back at work. But finally left the house. Sat down for the show. Sheff rolls in the cold open. We're being made fun of because we're late and Dongulator, all the things in the chat.

Like, uh-huh. and I have no idea where my phone is right now, and it's fine. It'll be a nice two-hour detachment, but like the panic while the cold open was going on of like, oh boy, hopefully nobody needs anything. You gave this a full Bill O'Reilly before the show started of a, we'll do a live. Yep. Literally. Literally how things went. This is going to be a monster today, man.

This always is. I know everybody reacts the same way to this all the time. It looks like, every year the wider super class is great. And the arrow of seven on seven. You and I have been texting about this for weeks. This wide receiver class is unbelievable. Yeah, rules. Where we're going to do our top 12s and we'll do the, you know, honorable mentions and all of that.

But holy smokes, dude. When I got to number 12, I was like, I love this player. Right. At number 12. I feel bad that 13, 14, 15, and 16 aren't on this list right now. And we do top 12s to give us a little bit of space to give us some honorable mentions. Like you guys in the chat have already, like even before the show started, you guys are shouting out. I saw Eli was given like his rankings of wide receivers and there's like a bunch of people in the chat who've done the same.

We'll throughout the show obviously interact with you guys. I see a bunch of super chats as well like we always do. We'll get to those at the end of the show. So I promise that we see him. But we'll get to him. I already see Nemo Sports already gave us a start bench cut. So we got that to look forward to at the end of the show. But yeah, man, this wide receiver class is fantastic.

And I think the best way to sort of like encapsulate this class is there's a lot of guys. that I really, really like right now. And it's not from a perspective of I'm baking in the fact that they're going to get better. Like I already think these guys are good, especially the guys who are my top four or five specifically. I already think that they're good for a pro level. It's just a matter of how much better can they get. And some of the guys are so solidified, like Jeremiah Smith, we're not spoiling anything. Like, obviously, he's not bad.

He's not bad. You know, he's one of those guys. If he improves a little bit, you know, then you're talking about, you know, maybe he'll sneak into the day one conversation. But let me ask, okay, this is a good way to start the show. Yes. If you were doing a dynasty draft today, what wide receiver is Jeremiah Smith off the board if he's thrown into the startup dynasty today? So, like how many guys are really just taken over him? Right.

In the dynasty. It's a short list. I mean, it's, I mean, it's Jefferson. It's, it's, um, Jamar Chase. Yep. Here's the, here's the golden one. Do you? Thank you.

I mean, oh, did, the wife, the wife brought the phone. Yeah, I had to, I had to log on. I had to message her through my laptop. Like, I'm not ghosting you. I'm not, wait a second. Wait a beat, wait a deadbeat dad rock out. I was, I was thinking to myself, oh, you know, he doesn't have the phone for the show. It's all right.

You know, if my wife were to text me in the show, she'd understand that we're doing stock exchange. You guys are parents. So actually that doesn't fly. Oh, hell, like a brain, yeah. Yeah, no. I want to be, like, I want to be honest here. Five months ago, this, I would have been thrilled, not even think about this thing for a couple hours.

But I have a child. Like, it's, yeah. Anyways. Going back to your question, going back to your question, though. Do you take puka over him? Because of all pukas' turbulent off season? I mean. he's basically in that next tier, right?

Like, I think, I think Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are the obvious, like, you take them. But then the next- And J-SN. Yeah, okay. Yeah, J-SN as well. J-S-N as well. So, like, those three are there. And then it's, you know, Pugua, Amun-Ross, St. Brown, C.D. Lamb.

Right. Jeremiah Smith, in there, like, of wide receivers that I would take for, like, a dynasty perspective of the next names that you would have. Yes. Yeah, it just goes to show you, man. I think that's the most simple way to kick off of, like, the player that leads this group of how much of a blue chip player he is. And then we're going to get into how special the rest of the group. I'm laughing in the chat.

Do you see Matthews? Do you see what Matthews saying? I saw Joey said she's cold open farming. Your wife is. Yeah, she actually kind of was right there. Nice try. Matthew said, Matthew said, do hair transplants hurt? And are they worth it?

Asking for a friend, brother. It's all natural, maybe. I'm natty as hell. This is all natural right here. Of course it is. Didn't even need steroids for this bad boy. Yeah. Oh, how far are we going to go until we get like a haircut?

It looks great. I'm not recommending one. Until. I'm just curious. Until the divorce papers get emailed. Like the verbal, yeah, the verbal threat, I could probably, you know, still get away with it a little bit. but when they get emailed, then, yeah.

No, I don't, I don't know. We're going a little bit longer. I kind of, I've had longer hair in the past, but I haven't, like, had full, like, actually grown out my entire head of hair. I did, I did. But that was like the, that was like the Viking era where you were, like, shaving the sides and everything. So I've never, like, actually fully grown out my hair.

But, yeah, we're sticking to it. By the way, you mentioned Turkey A couple people are talking about this. In the chat, sort of, like, asking about the vacation, everything like that. And I just want to say this before we start the wide receivers. everything. Guys, travel. I just, I just, I cannot recommend it enough whether whether it's to the next town that you live in, the next state, I would always encourage people to go to other countries, other continents. Like, not only is it phenomenal to do just from a life

experience, just seeing different parts of the world, places with other languages, different cultures, different religions, different cuisines, everything, man, it's just, it really is food for the soul. Like, it truly is. I just could not recommend it enough. My wife and I are very fortunate to be able to travel the way that we do. You know, we don't have kids. We have two great jobs that allow us to, like, during the summertime, specifically have the same time off to where we can, you know, block off and go to a different. continent and see it the way. But like you guys don't even have to do it the way that we did. If you do, I got great recommendations for you. Got a great, got a handful of really great

places for you to eat. But just, I mean, the history that we saw, the people we met, it was just, it was wonderful. That's what it's all about. And I just, I could not encourage people more, go travel, meet new people, see new things. When you expand your world like that, like experience wise, like who you are as a person truly gets better and better. So I just wanted to sure that I said off the top. I just how much I think travel is so important to being the best human being that you possibly can. So I wanted to say that off the top of the show.

Totally agree, man. And I'm sure knowing our demo, there's a lot of like single guys, younger guys listening to this. And if you can afford to, but you're afraid to, honestly, go on your own. Like, do it. Don't be afraid to. It's, I remember the first time I ever went overseas to mainland Europe. I met friends along the way.

Like I had a friend working over the summer there and stuff, but I went on my own and did a lot of the trip on my own and met friends along the way that were already out there. And it was terrifying in the best way. Like you just don't know what you're getting into. You're alone. You're figuring it out. And it was some of the most like life-changing kind of experiences.

And then, you know, when you have a significant another and share it with somebody, it's really special. So I love you saying that because I think it is when you can afford to, whether it's time, money, all those things. It is one of the most unique things you could do. in this life. Yep, very cool, very cool. And I hope that if you're watching this, you're watching it live because it's the chat just absolutely roasting us sentimentally talking about travel. Jameson goes, damn, Connor thinks we're all bitchless. No, that's not what I meant. You're just

young. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Somebody said I called everybody poor. Yeah, get your money up. Buy the yacht. They're traveling from one. What, Trevor? You don't have a job. I saw a couple of those. Somebody said, are you talking about Iowa? You're damn right. I'm talking about Iowa. Bryce said jobless, in quotes, a podcaster taking out a personal loan to travel. Not great financial advice. Yeah, correct. It's worth it. It's worth it, folks. Okay, let's get into it. Let's pull up the, we're doing top 12s today. We're doing top 12 wide receivers.

The chef, as he always does, has it revealed seven through 12. We'll kind of talk about Conner's list. through 12 on my list. I'm sure there's going to be somebody that you watch that I didn't because it's just tradition around these parts. So let's do it. I don't think I'll have anyone on my top 12 that you didn't watch for this one. I say that every time. What am I doing?

It's inevitable. I'm like, yeah, this time it'll be fine. There it is. There it is. There's one. We got one? One. Let me guess who it is.

Okay. It's Reed Harris. It is Reed Harris. Yeah. Reed Harris is kind of a sneaky one right now. Okay, so you knew right off the bat that he was a sneaky one, but you said that I should have watched him. So you're basically calling me a bum.

No, I didn't call you a bum. You did. You did. Yeah, yeah. You suddenly said if I wasn't traveling so much, I'd be able to actually watch the film I need to watch for this show. That's what you said. If you weren't eating steak on the beach so much and in the calceum.

Oh, so a guy can't enjoy a nice cut of meat on the beach? It was pretty elite. I was jealous. I was jealous. I had diaper hands. I was watching that one. I was like, you know what?

Everyone's got different lives right now. All right, Reed Harris. Don't just talk to the people about Reed Harris in Arizona State. I'll read 12 to 7 because I am the worst at forgetting the audio people. Okay.

So audio people, I feel, I'm apologizing now. Here's 12 to 7, then we'll get to read Harris. 12, Deuce Robinson, Florida State. Colossal wide receiver. 11, Reed Harris. Arizona State.

10. Amarian Miller, Arizona State. A theme you guys will hear on the show, whether it's the honorable mentions or guys in the top 12. These freaking colleges are ponying up for duos. It's like everywhere I look. This college has two elite guys.

This college has two elite guys. Wild. Nine, Cooper Barcate, now at Miami, from Duke. He came with Dary and Mensa. Like, they just show up together. That's nice. Right, right. Good business.

Nick Marsh. now at Indiana. I didn't realize you had Nick Marsh at heat. Yeah, Nick Marsh at 8. Whoa. He was now at Indiana. And then seven Bryant, Westco Jr. from Clemson. So let's get into Reed Harris first.

Okay. Another theme of this class, man, these are big wide receivers. I feel like we've had a lot of years where it's like, I like this guy, but he only plays the slot and he's five, nine and a half. Six, five, two, seven. What are they feeding this kid? Yeah, I have a spring verified at 6-4-220. So he's gotten heavier.

Yeah, Reed Harris is a big fella. And he transferred from Boston College to Arizona State. I'll start with the size right there. Boston College used him as an H-back tight-end style blocker. Okay. Like all the time. Hold on. Is that complementary?

Or is it because he's slow? Okay, so we'll get into All right, okay, okay. We'll get into his entire profile, but I think it speaks to me how tough you are at the position because I remember not as frequently, but I remember I was really impressed

when Ohio State would even do this with a mecca, Buka sometimes. I was like, damn, they'll have him block out of the backfield. Like, they clearly think he's tough as hell. Yeah. I think it's a really big compliment when your coaching staff believes you could do that. So, and no, I don't think he's slow for size.

For 220, I do not think he's slow. Okay. I would think he's a four, five, four, four nine kind of guy, honestly. So Reed Harris last year, 39 catches, 673 yards and five touchdowns. He was a four-star transfer portal prospect, two-year starter for Boston College. He was a former three-star high school recruit out of Montana, and he played both quarterback and wide receiver coming out of Montana. So really interesting athlete when you look at the size, the versatility,

you just love the build. You see the build right on tape right away. And he utilizes that catch radius. He's got good vertical leaping ability when they throw him those jump balls. This is the thing that surprised me the most. I like the acceleration in straight line speed. Okay. Once again, I think you're looking at like a 449, 448 kind of guy.

and when 220 is moving at that, it really catches your attention. There's plenty of plays where I thought he made unique adjustments to the football. And that's where the long arms and the big hands kind of come into play. And once again, going back to, I see in the chat there from Hight, SHC, is this guy for the 2007 NFL draft? Yeah, he's saying, like, is this like your guy?

Oh, this is my guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I haven't meant 11. Okay, I'll put it like this. He might gotta be your guy. He's one of the guys that rode down, like, could have a monster here. And we haven't seen coming off at 673 yards, but in a better offense, I think, at Arizona State. Amarian Miller will grab some attention across from him.

Right, right. I still think the contested catch rate needs to go up higher. I don't think the quarterback play was very good. I think the routes are muscling through coverage rather than refinement and silkiness and, you know, once again, consistency. I think he's out there being more of this big, fast athlete that could power through people. And how do we get him to be just a little bit more refined? But yeah, Reid Harris is, he's a fascinating prospect for sure. Obviously, anytime you have a player who's got that kind of a build, you want to give them more of a chance.

just because especially if you're an athlete and we'll get to O'Mary and Miller. I think that O'Mary and Miller probably is a good place to sort of like have a transition conversation because he's also an Arizona state guy. Tyler, if you want to go back to the original list, we could see My 7 through 12. And then I think we should jump into O'Mary and Miller after that.

So my 7 through 12, I got Westco at 7 as well, Brian Westgo Jr. from Clemson. Mari Thomas from Houston, I have him at 8. Amaria and Miller I have at 9, you have him at 10. I get T.J. Moore from Clemson at 10. Jayden Great House from Notre Dame. I have him at 11. And then Junior Cheryl from Vanderbilt.

I have him at number 12. So we'll get to a couple of those names in a second. But I do want to talk about Amaria Miller, who this is somebody who we talked about briefly last year for last year's class because he was draft eligible. He's a senior this year. He was playing at Colorado for the last three years. and this year he is playing at Arizona State. The reason why I liked him a lot, I mean, I thought he could have been a top five wide receiver in last year's class.

And the reason why is because six foot one, 210 pounds, and he is explosive. I mean, if you're six foot one, two hundred ten pounds, obviously like the height, you wish he was a little bit taller for a wide receiver in the NFL. But 210, that's 71st percentile. I think some people might look at 210 and go like, yeah, okay, like that's average for a wide receiver. No, it's really not. It's definitely above average when you're around 210 pounds.

And when you can explode the way that Omari and Miller does, especially from a vertical perspective, you kind of have to look at this and say, I will deal with more inconsistencies right now. I will deal with, okay, I've got to teach him how to get off the line of scrimmage a little bit cleaner. Because the big issue that I have with Omarian Miller is that he reminds me a lot of Sammy Watkins right now, where Sammy was super athletic, super explosive, but he just wasn't very refined. And he really won by being a bigger athlete. We saw him win consistently doing that at the college level.

But when it came to the NFL, a lot of that wasn't able to translate because there are just so few players in the world that get to win just off physicality when you get to the pro level. You have to be able to be nuanced, especially at the wide receiver position. And for Omarian Miller right now, I think of a lot of what he does,

he wins because he is a big, strong, dense, explosive athlete. And because of that, he's never really had to develop different releases off the line of scrimmage, beating press in different ways, really selling the brakes in his routes. There's not a lot of nuance there. There's a lot of explosiveness. There's a lot of strength. But there's not a lot of nuance to him right now. So he is a player who I have around the same range as you, who I think some people might

remember his name from what we talked about with him last year. I thought he could have been a top five wide receiver in last year's class, but in this year's class, because it is so much more talented, and you have a lot of guys who are not just more refined, but also, I don't want to say equally as physically gifted, because Amarian Miller is a pretty special athlete for his size, but there's just a lot of really good wide receivers in this class, and I think that's why you see his name a little bit further down this list

than where I would have had him in last year's class. Yeah, the movement at that weight, you know, definitely stood out to me, as you pointed out, Trevor, he is somebody that you and I were both preparing to declare, and he didn't. I wonder if it's, you know, you look at the fact that he had that pretty serious broken leg in October of 2024. Right. That ended his season. So maybe teams just want to see him have a second year in a row of big time production coming off that injury. I mean, you love that he was a standout basketball player in high school as well. Dude, I read he average 26 points a game.

A lot of times, a lot of times, well, a lot of times people like to throw in like, oh, we played basketball in high school. This is real. Okay, we'll note that he played basketball, but if I can find some stats, I like to do so on these guys. And some of them it goes like,

ooh, he played basketball. And it's like, all right, he averaged four points and two rebounds a game when he was playing varsity basketball. Ryan Miller, I still average 26 points a game. So obviously a true hooper, as they said. Yeah, man. I guess you and I see him really eye to eye and have pretty big expectations for this past game. Yeah, yep.

And I really hope that we see a more refined version of him because this is one of those prospects that I think can really take a leap because of how athletic he is. And that's what, like, Jay 47 in the chat is asking like, why his consensus so high on him? I think because at this point right now during the summer before the season, you're betting on that. big strong athlete profile. And you're saying like, give me that. That is an NFL build. And I'll fix the rest of it. We'll get him with a good, you know,

wide receiver coach or a private coach or like whatever it is. And so I think that's why you just have a lot more leniency for bigger NFL caliber athletes in the summer than you might when we go through this in January, February, something like that. Yeah, man. And, you know, going back to you bringing up, just kind of refining his game, And to me, he gets caught drifting into coverage a lot. And I think that in this offense,

that's probably something they'll be able to coach out of him, honestly. People are mentioned, and they are correct here. Heinz Ward, wide receiver coach at Arizona State. So, you know, you look at obviously Jordan Tyson's refinement and what Heinz has been able to do there. It's, yeah, that work speaks for itself. So, Amarian Miller and Reh. Heinz.

Heinz, you guys first name basis? Did I say just Heinz? Yeah, yeah. We are, we are not on first name base. Do not put in the newspaper that we are on first name basis. I just ask it. You know a lot of people. You got industry sources.

I didn't know of Heinz. Oh, man. You're up to your usual tricks. The Big Age. He's like, who the hell is this? He's like, who the hell is this? Heinz works the man. Who is this idiot?

All right, where are we going next to these rankings? Where do you want to get? You want to talk about Juice Robinson? He didn't make my top 12. He's got a lot of fans as well. Just for the build, again, you see on the screen there, he's 6 foot 6, 22 pounds. I mean, this is a pro-level type of build type of player.

But, you know, you got him at 12. He just missed my top 12. What do you think about him? Fascinating, right? Because I believe he was viewed coming out as more of a tight end out of high school is the vibe I got. And a big time baseball player as well. Oh, yeah.

What was his, uh, it was, it was extensive. Hold on, let me find this. No, just like you were talking about how, hey, Amari and Miller was a big time basketball player, like for like college level. So he was a, college level baseball player. He was a five star wide receiver recruit,

um, from Phoenix, from Phoenix, Arizona. He was the number one baseball recruit in the state of Arizona. I mean, that's insane. He was the third athlete ever to be named an Under Armour All-American in both baseball and football. The only other two were Kyla Murray and A.J. Brown, both NFL players.

So pretty good company that we have there. But yeah, I mean, his dad played football at Florida State. His mom was a swimmer at Florida. Wow, family divided there. Florida State, Florida. I didn't know that was allowed. It's like your household. What is the intensity between South Carolina and Florida?

Dude, it's been so low stakes for the entire time that Alyssa and I have been together. It's just two schools that get the freakiest quarterbacks that do nothing with them. That's what I think of right away. This year, I don't even know if they play this year. They're going to be undefeated when they face off in the college football playoff. There I said it. I love you love to see that. Okay, anyways.

Is that possible? I didn't know. Deuce Robles. Unless they're playing in the Natty, probably not. Go ahead, keep on Deuce Robinson. Yeah, so Deuce Robinson, and you said it. I know people, there's going to be able to have him as a top five wide receiver coming into the year.

So I guess I'll start with some of the questions. To me, I just thought he moved more like a tight end when I watch him play rather than a wide receiver. Where here's the trick. He had a good contested catch rate, 18 of 38. but he's living in contested catch situations. 38. 38. He only had 56 catches on the year.

18 of them were contested. And they do throw him screens. So, you know, I'll say this with Deuce Robinson. Here's what I think he is good at. He's actually like a, he's a bit of an enigma in that I think he's, more crafty than you'd expect, but I think he's less physical than you'd expect. And what I mean by that is there are plenty of routes where I see him getting bumped around. And I'm like, you are way too big and strong to be getting bumped around.

But bigger strike zone, not as elusive and as silky. So, you know, bigger strike zone, some corners kind of feast on that. But then there's times where I'm like, man, he knew how to attack zone there. or hey, he knew exactly what to do. He's more finesse than you would expect. Right. So when I look at it and think like, why isn't this guy playing tight end?

I mean, he could probably weigh 235 in his, you know, three days in the wait room and two nights at the steakhouse. Yeah. But, you know, he does try to play more like a smart wide receiver than a physical bully. Now, I will say the one area where you see the sizing physicality, I mentioned that, hey, he has like all these contested catches compare, like, that's a high

percentage of his actual production, but they throw him screens. He will run through the first tackle attempt after screens, and that I like. That's because you're bigger than all these DBs on the outside. So catch the screen and run through that guy and hopefully other people are blocked and get upfield. He's a tricky one, Trevor. He's not going to be the fastest guy. I wish he was as physical as the size would indicate, but there's no denying there are matchups that he can feast on.

and that's why he was 12 for me. Yeah, he's, he's an interesting player where I think his value, his true value, is not going to come from a linear list like this, especially one that we make during the preseason. That's a really good way of putting it. I think the value is going to come when we do team-specific big boards next spring, and we look at a team and we go, this team needs an X. this team needs or maybe even a big slot receiving type of a tight end presence, whatever it is.

You go, this player is going to be higher on this team's board because of what they need in their receiver room. Whereas if you stack him up against every receiver, every shape, size, skill set type of a wide receiver, he might not match up just because there's a lot of things that you probably wish he did better and there's probably a lot less negatives on the players that are going to be listed ahead of him. But I think that that's probably the. the best way to describe a player who I think is intriguing. Normally this type of player, like you mentioned, like 38 contested catches out of, would you say, 52, 56, something like that.

Normally, that is not my type of player at all. Yeah, dude, 18 to 38, I think? Yeah, but then, would you say how many catches he had total? 56. Yeah, 56. So 38, 56. It's normally not the type of player that I would like. But I have learned to at least not completely.

and eliminate this player if a wide receiver room needs this caliber of a player. But I will say, if you're going to be that, you better be a damn good blocker. And I think that there were times when he was a good blocker, but there were also times when I wanted him to have a little bit more fire towards blocking. So if he can improve being a blocker, I do see some value there for him, even with some of the negativity. Brett Coleman, big fan of the show, said in the chat, as with all receivers, the question you have to ask yourself during film study is,

would this work against Camarie Lasseter or any other high-end CB2, let alone CB ones? Correct. It's a good brother. No, and Brett is totally right. And I think that there are, look, you got to have five wide receivers on your active game day roster, right? I mean, like, that's just every team's going to carry five wide receivers. So you got to have five wide receivers,

and you got to kind of have a game plan and a skill set that you go to with all five of those spots. But at the end of the day, Brett is correct. And the players that we, individually prioritize, I think answer that question. We believe that these are the players for whatever reason, whether it's explosiveness, whether it's strength, whether it's savviness, whatever, we think that they can beat week to week starting corners in the NFL is how I will say it.

So I think that Brett obviously sets the table in a very great way there. Let's go back to the list here. Keep it moving. So Duke Robinson was your number 12. Reid Harris was your number 11. I got Junior Cheryl at my 12 and then Jaden Greathouse at 11. I kind of want to hit those two guys there. Did you watch either of those guys?

Yes. Well, Great House is coming off obviously basically the lost season. Correct. Yes. I like his teammate. Who? Jordan Phasen. Oh, so I didn't watch him. Yeah, I do.

I like his teammate Jordan Fasin who was on their 2004, a starter on their 2024 national championship lacrosse team, which is. Oh. Yeah. It's not in my top 12, but I just wanted to shout out the name. But Great House, you know, the guys that lost most of the season, I made more honorable mentions than in my top 12.

So I'm interested to see what you're excited about from 2024 that should, I mean, this offense should be really freaking good through the air. Yeah, I mean, the thing is that I really liked him in 2024. So he's a former four-star wide receiver. He went to Westlake High School, which is at major high school in the state of Texas in Austin, Texas. And Bakers? What'd you say? Baker's High School? Did Baker go to Westlake? Why do I think? Why did I think that? Did Baker go to Westlake? No. I think Kee Klubnick went Oh, no, like Travis. Oh, okay. Close. Maybe Westlake is Garrett Wilson? I don't know.

So many good players, but yeah. There were a lot of good players that have come from Westlake. But won three state championships, sophomore, junior senior year, played basketball. 13.8 points per game in high school, by the way. She wanted to make sure that I mentioned that as well. So he committed to Notre Dame played five, got five starts in 2023 as a true freshman. 11 starts in that national championship run for them in 2024. And to me, there's just, there's a lot to like about what Great House brings to the table. He is around six foot, six foot one, somewhere in between there, 213 pounds. So like, he is a smaller wide receiver, but he is a dense dude. And you see that with how he blocks. I think he's got the strength to play near the line of scrimmage. So as a slot receiver, I haven't

categorized as a slot wide receiver. Like we've said many times before on this show, whether it's you playing slot corner or whether it's you playing slot wide receiver. When you are closer to the line of scrimmage, you have to block. You have to be physical. You have to block if you're a wide receiver. You have to defend the run if you're a corner. Like it's just, it's not, oh, this guy is my wide receiver three or this guy is my cornerback three. No, No, no, no. This is a specialized type of player that is often an X factor for every single team. Brett said that Westlake was Breeze and Foles. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad.

Why do I think that Kade Klubnik went to Westlake? Did he? I don't know. I don't know. You're just great. I can't get over it. He went to Westlake. I knew it. I knew it. Well, Brett snubbing Kade Clubbick. Unbelievable, Brett. Not putting him up with breeze and foals. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. I'll allow it for now. The Savior of the Jets, by the way. I've read nothing but. The fan base already adores him. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. How could you not?

They posted one video of him walking out to OTAs, and he kind of looks like a young Chad Pennington, and the crowd went wild. So there you go. Savior. So Great House, I'll start with the negative. He's not fat. And he's not super explosive either, right?

Sometimes you can knock a guy for like, all right, he doesn't have the best top gear, long speed type of a thing. But at least he's explosive. Eh, I don't even know if Jaden Greathouse is explosive. But, God, there's too much there that reminds me of Amon Rae St. Brown. And I'm not going to say that that's the comp. But the way that he wins, get me off the single camp.

Put it back on. Put it back on. Put it back on. The way that he wins. Get me off. Single cam. With the savviness, how he blocks, really strong hands, knows how to sit in zone,

find those soft spots in the zone. And you know what else I really love about him, Connor? He is not afraid to be a middle of the field type of a wide receiver. Sometimes when you were lined up in the slot and they go, hey, you're running a slant. or you're running a, you're running a 10 yard in, whatever it is, guess what, you're going to hit.

He just goes, okay, fine. Doesn't matter. And I just, that mentality of how you approach consistency. There have been plenty of other wide receivers that are like that. There aren't just a Monroy St. Brown. But that's the one that I think kind of paints the picture for a lot of people. Amonra St. Brown's production has been unbelievable in the lion's offense. So I'm not saying it's like a career thing.

But it's how he approaches the position is something that when I find, a player who I think checks a lot of these boxes. I'm just a sucker for betting on that type of player to continue to be productive because they can win in a lot of repeatable ways. The question just becomes, are you enough of an athlete at the NFL level for a lot of those things to shine? So I like Great House for a lot of those reasons. He is coming off of a hamstring slash thigh injury that costs him most of his year last year.

It's weird. Yeah. So I'm hoping that he's fully healthy. obviously if he's still feeling any kind of ailments from that. I mean, he already wasn't super fast. So that's something. No, the good thing is, I guess good thing, I hate being doctor during summer scouting.

When you see that, you think soft tissue or like nagging. And it was blood build up in his thigh. So he had surgery to limit or remove the excess blood buildup. So hopefully like it's a surgery that that's just totally behind him. because this offense, him, phasing, I mean, obviously, C.J. Carr is going to be throwing the ball around the yard. Hey, I like you betting on this guy. I'll say that right now. It was just too immaculate of a hamstring pump from the gym. Leg extensions and hammy curls.

It's just the dream. No, obviously. Led to surgery. Obviously, I'm very happy that they caught whatever that was because it sounds very, very serious. But, yeah, man, I like his game a ton. And then Junior Cheryl is from Vanderbilt, somebody that, um, I actually didn't know before this process. Shout to Corey Kadan and all the draft work that he does. He was tweeting about Junior Sherrill and I was like, okay, I'll add him to the list.

I hadn't watched wide receivers yet. But he's a senior going in this year. He's just under 5 foot 11. He's 200 pounds. So this is another dude who's got a dense and strong frame to him. Good yards after catch player. Former Mr. Football in the state of Tennessee. Had 221 all-purpose yards in the state championship and four touchdowns in the state

championship game. I just, I love players that show up when the lights are the brightest. And when you are playing for a state championship and you get over 200 all-purpose yards with four touchdowns, man, I love to see that. He also played basketball in high school. I don't know what his points per game or rebounds per game were. Not sure. Don't ask me. Don't ask me. But he has been a, he has started the last two years for Vanderbilt. He'll start again this year, obviously, so that'll make that three straight. So a lot of good experience for him. But he's got special teams. So you could fall back on that as a wide receiver three, wide receiver four type of a player. He's got that dense bill.

He's good for yards after catch. The gas meter, GAS gives a shit. The gas meter for him very, very high. This player is focused. He is determined. He is doing what he is asked to do, even if it is the dirty work stuff. He will break tackles. He will take contact over the middle.

He does a lot of that stuff. So I love that from him there. I think he puts his all into blocking. So again, it goes into the value that you have. You know, if this guy's going to be, let's say, like a day three type of a wide receiver, you start talking about this guy is much more of a round four type of a guy than a round five and six type of a player because of the value that he could bring you on special teams. He's got shorter stride lengths, I've noticed, just because of his frame.

And so even though it looks like he is giving it all and he is moving, he's not covering a ton of ground there. So I think that's just a natural physical deficiency that he might have. but a good player, albeit a smaller wide receiver. These are two slot receivers for them, but good players, guys who I think can find roles at the NFL level. I'm with you on the intangibles, though. You turn on the tape and you see it really in one game of watching them.

There's intangibles there. It doesn't really care about getting hit. You know, we'll make things happen with the ball in his hands, throw his weight around, no matter how he's filled out at this size already. I didn't look at him and think he was leaner or skinnier. He's not the tallest wide receiver in a class where all these guys are built like true X wide receivers. Jay Mike, you said Jaden Greathouse is the Jalen Coker of Amon Ross St. Browns.

Might be on to something there. I mean, it's not like, that's, yeah, that's the pathway. Might be on to something. Hey, Jalen Coker, the richest Jalen Coker around. Newly extended. Yeah, I don't know if we got another richer Jailen Coker. I don't, I would be surprised. Like Dan Moore, it's like, yeah, there's probably a couple Dan Moore's out there.

Jalen Coker. I'm Googling it. Anybody else? Anybody else in here? Oh, we got a LinkedIn. profile no wait okay the LinkedIn profile is for the actual geo and cocker the Carolina panthers water receiver there you go it's a businessman yeah I think this is I think this is it all right back to the list Nick March time from me you're a hater brother oh he's in your

top six never my top six when you said that I thought you were like God I can't believe you have him in the top pool okay not Nick Marsh time Nick Marsh rules yeah Nick Marsh there's definitely some ability there So I don't have, we'll get to Nick Marsh. I don't have Cooper Barcate in my top 12. He was a guy who just missed it here. Talk to the good people about sort of what he brings to the table. And then I'll actually talk about Mara.

Do you have Amari Thomas in your top six? No, he's not my top six. Okay, all right. I hate her again. But we'll go over Amari Thomas after this. Cooper Barcate, it's great to have another good route running, refined. Close enough. Welcome back, Adam Thielen. White wide receiver named Cooper.

That's true. Come on. Adam Thielin. Yeah, he's got the little sleeve like Adam Thieland though. Dude, he wears 18. It's all there. He actually literally has the Thielen aesthetic. And his name's Cooper. It feels like a running, a joke is being played upon us.

Oh, wait, wait, Phelan War 19. The one was 19, 19. The sleeve, though, is the same. I know, it is. Which is good sweat. I mean, Adam Thielen had had some good aesthetic. I got to give it to him. Yeah, so does Barcate.

And Barcate, to me, just a shade under 6-1-195, Red Shirt Senior, was really productive for a couple years at Harvard, clearly smart. You'll hear 80 times on the broadcast. Hey, you know, he started his college career at Harvard? And then he went to Duke. And now he's at Miami. So you got to respect the guy and give him bonus points to somebody that goes, okay, I'm going to get arguably the greatest education in the United States.

And then I'm going to transfer up, but I'm still going to get one of the better educations in the United States. And then when he's done with all that, Harvard and Duke, he's going to go have the time of his life at Miami. That is a guy that gets it. Smart man. In my opinion. Smart man. So insanely productive over 1100 yards last year at Duke. Of course, catch a balls from Mensa.

This is a year after he had over 1,000 yards at Harvard. Um, this guy plays the game like a pro. And I know people are going to laugh at that. You look at a white wide receiver named Cooper and you're going to hear all like the polish and craftiness and all that. The releases and route movements are quick. They're efficient. He has zero fear of attacking the middle of the field. He constantly is the go-to guy when they need to move the chains.

51 first downs in 2025. Yeah. We talked about this when we were discussing Mensa. Mensa is good. in the short intermediate game and trying to get the ball out on time. And Barcate's the perfect receiver for that. He plays inside and outside

and he's productive at both. That's the thing for me. Like he's not just a slot guy. He's not just an outside wide receiver. He understands leverage, spacing, tempo from different alignments on the field. I think the play strength is mediocre,

but this guy to me is a well-traveled wide receiver that has the quickness to generate separation. He's very productive. He's playing with his quarterback as they both transferred. I think he's going to have a huge year at Miami, and I think he's going to be a really, really good number two as a pro.

He's, Cooper Barcate's profile is so funny because it's like a stereotype to a T, right? But and along with that, he is so consistent the way that he wins. is so repeatable. His fundamentals are so fantastic. There's athletic limitations to him, I think, when it comes to overall strength

and then overall top speed as well. But savviness really helps him make up for that. He is the type of wide receiver who, like, if a coach just says, we're going to give you 150 targets this year. He's going to be a monster. Like he's just going to produce. But there's going to be,

I feel like, like plenty of coaches that would say like, yeah, all right, he's, he's not super athletic. We're not going to build the offense around him. We're not going to give him a ton of targets type of a thing. And then you might get, he might land at a team where the coach goes. No, no, no, everything. He is in the right place at the right time. Maybe it's a low average depth of target type of the thing.

Maybe it's a little bit more West Coast, a little bit more dink and dunk, but we're going to give this guy the football and he's going to continue to move the chains for us. And I could go, yep, I can see it with this player. So it all kind of depends on landing spot where he goes and how much a coach might believe in him um i have the hard time prioritizing players like that um because if you don't have a lot of physical gifts for like a pro level perspective then i just think that there's a higher chance that you can get washed out and forgotten about um but his i think his type of skill set is something where yeah i mean if you just go if you go to the right team i think that he could

absolutely produced for you. And so I'm interested to see how that connection continues with him in Miami and obviously Dary Mentsa at Miami now. But yeah, he's just a, he's a wide receiver who's always where you wanted to be. I think he's faster than you. Do you? Okay. I think once again, fast, when somebody says fast, I think four or three, so I don't think he's fast. Do I think he's going to go sub four or five which is more than enough yeah yeah like some people i think some people are talking about lad mcconkey in the chat lad lad was that lad lad lad lad was lad lad could fly and that's the difference and if barcate goes to miami and i feel like he's got a lot more athleticism then i think this conversation certainly changes because i think that gives him a lot more of a chance to continue

to stand out at the pro level like i thought lad was a late first early second round type of a player i appropriately went where he did in the draft and he's a stud because of it. But Lad is not your, Lad is not the typical stereotype type of smaller white wide receiver. Lad could fly. And he showed that at Georgia that he could fly. And the best part about Ladd is that he would block his ass off as well. So he had a lot more strength that people gave him credit for.

And I think he had a lot better vertical speed than some people gave him credit for as well. But obviously if you are more of that blend of a wide receiver, you get drafted higher. So we'll see. Who else we have on this list before we get the top sixes? Westco, we didn't hit yet. Oh, I'll hit Amari Thomas and then we'll hit both of the Clemson guys. I think that probably makes the most sense. Yeah.

So Amari Thomas was, where we see? He was eighth on my list. He missed your top 12, so he was not in your top 12. This is a player who I think has a ton of potential to be a riser. And I think his skill set could yield a lot of fans throughout this draft process. So he's 5'11, 205 pounds.

So he's a little bit smaller of a wide receiver, but like 205, I mean, this dude's stacked. I mean, I think that he is a dense type of a build, and he's tough to bring down. He could bounce off the contact.

And yards after catch is absolutely his game while he has been at Houston. So he was a three-star wide receiver in the 2023 class from Birmingham, Alabama. He committed a UAB. He was at UAB for two years, 2023 and 24, transferred over to Houston,

played in all 13 games last year for them was a big focal point of especially their short passing game um and as a slot receiver i think he does very very well in space this is somebody who his calling card is the stop and start ability for him where man i mean he can he can get out of his stance very very quickly and he even has like some false steps in you like getting off the line of scrimmage as well. Like there are times where he'll sort of like tap his front foot and then launch off of his back foot. There are times where like he just won't launch off of his front foot at all really. And you can't really tell because he's that explosive because he gets into his top speed really, really quickly. He's like the type of player who if you, if you, if you were asking anybody in

this class to run a whip route the way that you would exactly want it, I'd pick Amari Thomas, I think, over anybody in this class because he has that kind of footwork. He has that kind of body control and he has that kind of explosiveness out of his break from zero to 60. So this is, again, I think a player who's got a determined twitchy running style to him, really good yards after catch potential. I don't know how much of a consistent vertical threat he's going to be in the NFL. I guess that kind of depends on sort of the attention that he's going to command and how he continues to win in the short and intermediate and then what that opens up over the top. But I think that he, from a physical perspective and a potential of what this guy could be from a separation artist and then again, a yards after catch perspective.

If he goes to the right offense that really can allow him to find some space, find some good matchups and really put defenders in conflict in space, I think you're going to be very happy about the results that you can get with him. So I'm a pretty big fan of Amari Thomas who I think he has the game and the athleticism, the explosiveness to be able to succeed at the NFL level. Yeah, lots of like about the athletes. I mean, almost 500 of those receiving yards were after the catch. Yeah. So he's very, very creative. I talked about the 51 first downs for Barcate and Marri Thomas had 48. So this dude extremely, extremely productive.

And I love that you have him in the top 12 and probably just going a little under the radar because of where he's played. Yeah, I think so. I would obviously very much agree. So the Clemson guys, we've got to touch on those before we get into the top six is here. we both have Bryant Westgo Jr. from Clemson at number seven, but I also have T.J. Moore from Clemson in my top 12. I have him at number 10. Did you happen to watch T.J. Moore.

Yes, I had him 15. Okay. So T.J. Moore, what is he? He is a junior this upcoming season. He is listed at 6'3, 195 pounds. I think that he's got great hands. I think he is a really reliable player, always trying to extend the arms, extend the hands fully to attack the ball in the air. I think that he's a versatile receiver.

You've seen him on the outside. You've seen him in the inside. You've seen him on the line of scrimmage, off the line of scrimmage. I think he's got good effort and good fundamentals when he has asked to block. Active hands versus press. A lot of these guys sometimes don't really know what they're doing. Sometimes when you get to the college level, especially players who are more physically gifted. you'll just see them, you know, be on the line of scrimmage and they'll snap the football.

And all they're trying to do is just dip the shoulder and have a sort of a speed release to get around the player. I mean, he's setting these guys up. He's trying to break the hands away from the corners if they're trying to get them up early and press. And I just think that he is very sort of conscious and nuance of how to win in those little ways as well. I think he's got a good ability, especially for being six foot three to really sink the hips and sort of flip the hips and turn quick on those comeback routes, create some separation there. All that to say, I think he does a lot of things really well. Just don't know how high the ceiling is for him as an athlete.

Right. And I think that it'd be best case scenario for him. Feels like maybe the Jeremy Bernard of last year's class. But I know you were higher on Jeremy Bernard than I was. So I saw him a little bit differently than you did. But that's sort of the maybe best case scenario for TJ Moore here. But that's the type of wide receiver we're talking about, a guy who's going to do a lot of things right,

but is he going to do the special things that you want to really covet in the draft? I think that's to be seen, and we haven't quite seen that yet. So I do like this player, but I just have to see more from him athletically to really start to project him higher than this. Yeah, I agree with you. I thought it was more buildup speed. Like when you get him going on the intermediate and the deeper routes,

you can see the speed build up because of his size and his long legs. And with you all the way, love the hands, spectacular catches in the toolback. you'll see some incredible extended catches. But just the consistency. Play strength has to go up. So coverage bump him around. Six of 18 on contested situations.

I think that's an area where Bernard kind of had him beat that. Like, you could put Bernard over the middle of the field and he was tough. That's fair. I'm not saying Moore's not tough. He is. It's just that he needs to get more physical and stronger and he's a young guy. You see right, he's 20 years old. So like if Moore hits the weight room and really grows into his body,

could I see him shooting up these rankings? Definitely, because there was a lot of promise on tape for the young Clemson wide receivers. Bernard was 206, by the way. Like, I'd love to see T.J. Moore move the same way, but be over 200 as well. Because I think that's when you really start to see that over the middle of the field production get a lot more reliable for him. But I think that's sort of the path that I would like to see. And he's just a true junior this year. So there's plenty of reason to believe that he can put on that extra 5, 10 pounds and continue to get stronger when he becomes a pro. And I know there was injuries across. the board of this program. But did you have that moment like I did when watching Clemson this summer because we watched

a lot of Clemson for this show where I was like, how the hell they have T.J. Moore. On a ton of promise. Yeah. We'll get into Westco. And like I said, there was injuries with this program. Yeah. Antonio Williams. Yep.

I mean, Clubnik coming into the year, there was big. It's just, it was a weird realization for me. I'm like, this program is just dripping with skill talent. They got, they, they, they were hurt last year, but man, did they underproduce? I think that there's, I don't think that that's shocking anybody to say that, even with the injuries that they had. It felt like that team should have been better than what they were. It's probably an easy transition for us to Wesco, right?

Yeah, who was unfortunately one of those players that got hurt? And this is where I go like, hey, some of it was bad luck. Brian Westgo, Jr., he had a season ending back slash spinal injury in October. over to last year. So that's a big one right here. Now, the tape that we have, the seven games before that injury, I mean, holy smokes, do I love this guy. He's got size, more height, I would say.

He's a slender receiver, but he's got height. 31 catches 537 yards in just those seven games, six touchdowns. He was consistently operating and producing like a number one wide receiver week in and week out. And that's to me because he has, explosive acceleration that turns into speed to generate long separation. I think he's fast with the ball. I thought he was fast without the ball.

He averaged over 17 yards per catch, not just last year, but in 2024 as well. And the body control combined with the tracking, this is somebody that can win down the field. He has the total package to win down the field. He needs, he's very lean,

he needs to get stronger, he needs to add mass. You want to see him return to full form after a back slash spinal injury, which is always very, very scary. But the thing I wrote down, like, this is a deep threat with good height, good speed, consistently challenges coverage, consistently puts coverage into this in really, really bad situations. He's just got to add mass and strength while bouncing back from a significant injury. But, I mean, you're talking about a guy that was a top 35 high school recruit across the board in his class. Yeah, did you mention what exactly the injury was?

I just said backslash spinal. I did was there no no that that was it I just wanted to make sure that we mentioned it it's not like like oh he got hurt and missed you know seven games like he got hurt because he had a back and spinal injury that required surgery that he he was still non-contact for the spring game and I think he just got cleared for all that recently I didn't see anything to the contrary of him getting cleared which by the way I don't know if you saw this today Ahmad Hardy got cleared now Wow. That's not coach at Missouri. Oh, come on. Come on.

Nope. Eli drink wins. Eli, Eli drinkwitz. He said that he's, that Ah, Maude Hardy was probably like five to eight weeks anywhere in that range away from like being back to like SEC football

ready. So he's probably not going to start the season, but just something to note because obviously he's got a lot of fans in the draft community that he will be back at some point this year. At least it certainly seems. way. So Wesco, he's got a track and field background, finished fifth in the triple jump at the Texas 5A state meet in the spring of 2023 before that was his senior season before he went to Clemson. He had 11 starts his freshman season. Yeah, he's produced for two years.

11 starts out of 12 games and then started all seven games before he got hurt last year. So there's a lot of things that he does really well. He's a smooth mover for a player who's got that height, a little bit of a slender build. Sometimes you see it's, it's tough for those guys to move the way that you want to. Somebody in the chat said, so he's Chris Brasel. I don't think him and Chris Brasel play the same game at all. I think he's much more consistent of a mover. I think he's much more consistent of a route runner. I think his hands are more consistent as well. He's got good explosiveness. It's not quite Chris Brasel explosiveness, but it's a different kind of explosiveness that I think, in my opinion, is more translatable. I like Westco's game more than I like Brazels, but I was also a little bit lower on Brasel over last year's.

class. He's got above average body control to stop and startability again for a player who's like six foot two, six foot three. Really nice hand usage. It's just like you said, a little bit of a slender build. Got to come back from that injury and we got to see him be durable and be able to take contact well. But fun player.

I think that Westcoe is definitely somebody that is going to be a lot of fun to watch this year. He's fully healthy. All right. Did we finish up this group? I think we did. I think we did as well. We did. Yeah.

Top six. What do we got? Let's see, Connor. Fire away. All right. Six to one. Oh, who? What do you think that reaction's to?

Which one? What do you think? What do you think? If you had to guess what that reaction is to, you tell me. So he's got Jeremiah Smith at one. He's got Cam Coleman at two, KJ Duff at three, Charlie Becker at four, Mario Craver at five, and Ryan Coleman Williams at six. Duff?

It was actually the Duff. but Ryan Coleman Williams being six is also what got that reaction out of me. Too low? Too high, brother. Yeah, I was going to say, he almost wasn't six for me. He was almost like nine. He wasn't 12 for me. Yeah, I get it.

It's, I mean, you want to, let's just start there. Well, reveal, let's reveal my numbers. And then I feel like that's a better way to do the show. So my one through six, I got Jeremiah Smith, obviously, Kim Coleman at number two. So we have the same two. I got Charlie Becker at three. I got Nick Marsh at four. KJ. Duff is at four.

and then Mario Craver is at number six. So yeah, let's talk about Ryan Coleman Williams from Alabama. I think that's where we've got to start this conversation. So I'm not throwing 2004 out the window here. And I think that's important because last year was undeniably disappointing. And listen, in 2024, as a very, very young player, this is somebody that had almost 900 yards and was averaging, 18 yards per catch with eight touchdowns.

He was a borderline sensation. So I don't want to just react off of last year. I want to factor in how excited we were collectively for this guy going into his true sophomore season and that it didn't work out the way he hoped. But the traits are still, I mean, he is fast and he is a silky mover. Like you just watch a move and it's like, yeah, It will suck covering this guy. But the problem is, like I found corners going into recovery mode so much quicker against him than the average wide receiver.

But he needs to finish more plays. It doesn't matter if you don't finish those plays. And he learned that last year. I mean, he dropped 10 passes on just 80 targets last year. And yeah, not all drops are equal. I want to be careful with that. But some of them were. you'd sit there and be like, wow, you are such a better player than that.

What's going on here? Bigger, though, than drops. He's just disrupted by contact and playing in congested areas all the time. And he's a light guy. You see him listed at 182 there. It feels like his feet would go over his head sometimes when he'd get hit over the middle of the field. And that factors into not finishing plays. This is shocking for as talented as he is.

He only had one game in 2025 with 100 plus yards. I felt like they lost trust in him the second half of the year. They weren't looking his way like you'd expect them to. But the talent, man, he's tough. Just because he doesn't have play strength and he's not finishing plays, he's not afraid. He will go into those areas. He is a tough player.

He will play his entire NFL rookie season as just a 20-year-old if he declares. So if he improves a little bit on his deficiencies last year, don't lose sight of the fact that this dude is playing this college season as a 19-year-old, and he's already been a starter for two years. I'm just holding on to the talent. I am because not a lot of guys can run like him. Not a lot of guys can move like him. And I've seen him do it at what?

17? In the SEC? So why can't you do it when you're 19? The broadcast is going to believe that he's 17 forever. Yeah. He just every catch he actually gets. younger. I can't throw that all out the window with this guy. And I really hope he finds that form again because he's incredibly talented, but incredibly frustrating to watch. Yeah, I look, I don't want to

throw it out either. But the fact of the matter is that you've got one really great, you know, burst on the scene freshman season. And then you have a sophomore year that was quite forgettable in a lot of ways. And at this point in time, you've got two full years of both of those things. And I don't know what to believe about Coleman Williams. Now, he has the, not just the long speed, but the fluidity and the footwork as well to be a difference making type of an NFL wide receiver in the biggest way, right? This is, this is why, this is why judging this type of a wide receiver sucks so bad because Ryan Coleman Williams could do four things incorrectly. And then on the fifth play, it could be a 75-yard touchdown.

And the other four things basically don't matter. Now, they do matter. And I think that's the part of the conversation that I'm going to have here in a second. But that's what we're talking about with this player who I just don't know what to do with. And I have a hard time trusting this play. player right now. Now, I don't blame you for having him in your top 12 and even at number six on your rankings because we're talking about this in the preseason, right? We have a full year

to hopefully he's going to have a bounce back year that a lot of people want to see from him. If we were doing this and it was January and all we have is what we have right now from Williams, I think this is probably a different conversation for everybody. The things that really worry me about Ryan Coleman Williams is certainly the drops were frustrating. A lot of the concentration stuff was frustrating. I felt like the good and bad plays. Like you could tell when he was a part of the offense

and then the plays that he wasn't really part of the offense. I felt like you could kind of tell that on film was sort of just like the body language and the speed in which that he was running. And then what I don't love is that teams have different wide receiver rotations and I understand that

but they took him off the field completely for anything that had to do with a blocking down anything. But that's what I'm saying. He was not on the field if it was any sort of a potential running situation

he was not on the field. And then I noticed even when it was obvious passing downs, sometimes he's not on the field. You know who's always on the field? Jeremy Bernard was. Always. Always. Almost in any situation. Outside of stamina, fatigue. And even then, I mean, I felt like Jeremy Bernard played a lot.

That's what kind of worries me about Coleman Williams is he's got this, he's got this game-breaking potential. Like Kenny Stills is somebody who kind of like came to my mind is like, I remember Kenny Stills was just like, just throw up the ball and he's going to get behind the and he'll make the biggest, sometimes the biggest plays of the day for you. And like, I kind of saw shades of that when I was watching Coleman Williams at his best. But it worries me that he was off the field as much as he was last year. Even beyond some of the frustrating parts of when he was on the field, I think when he wasn't on the field also told a story that I'm hoping is very different this year.

I hope he is a mainstay. I hope he is the Iron Man. I hope he is getting the Jeremy Bernard type of treatment where this guy's got to be on the field at all times. And if that is the case, that tells us. That tells me the coaching staff trust you to be more than just a speed guy. But that was something that did stand out to me amongst the struggles when he was on the field is also when he was not on the field. You raise a good important point about the show too, is that this is judge it.

Like we're going to balance projection and traits and refinement where if this was the show for the draft, there's no shot he's sixth on my list, not even close. So he's a high variance prospect going into this year. It's really that simple. I see a lot of people talk about Mario Craver as well. And I've got him at five. I think you have him at six. No, I had Williams at six.

I had Craver at five. You have Craver at six. Yeah, I have Craber at six. Classic regular reverse. No, look, now that I see the rankings, I would never put Mario Craver over KJ DAF. I can never do that. Neither could you, even.

No shot. So you have Craver at five and I have Craver at six. And there's a lot of people that are sort of like, hold on here. You're knocking Ryan Coleman Williams for being, you know, small and having some drops and just being like just a smaller speed receiver, but you're giving all the credit in the world the Craver. I think Craver is a different type of a player. I completely agree. And, you know, what's interesting is somebody in the chat, I can't remember who it was, said this.

They pointed out the fact that on Texas A&M's website, Mario Craver is listed at 5 foot 9. 165 pounds. Dame Bruegeler lists him at 510-180. And if anybody's got updated heights and weights, it's Dane. So I'm actually going to trust Dane more than the actual school. I get it. So I don't, obviously, like, he is a smaller player no matter what, because even 180 is, shoot, what's, what, what's 180?

What's the? Oh, like percentile? Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on. God, it feels like guys are lighter and lighter every year at this point. It's not, that doesn't, that number doesn't scare me at all. I mean, 180 is going to be like 10th percentile or something. So even, like, if he's 165, he's a complete outlier, like entirely. But I think Craver's a good football player, man.

I don't, I don't see him as just this, you know, small speed wide receiver who's not going to translate it all to the NFL level. He's a former four star from Birmingham, Alabama. One state championships is a sophomore and a senior. He also ran track. Sub 11 time in the 100 meter dash 10-7-4, which is pretty damn fast. Committed to Mississippi State. Was it Mississippi State for one season?

Started three games transferred over to Texas. A&M, started nine games last year. He is 20 this year, so he'll be 21 on draft night if he declares in this class. I think the top gear is super impactful, whether it's getting vertical or whether it's yards after the catch. I think he's got good balance. Now, of course, he's breaking tackles everywhere. No.

But I think that he's got decent balance to be able to stay on his feet and get some of that yards after catch stuff. The motions, the screen game, the drags, the drag routes, like all that quick stuff I think that he is excellent at. Hasn't been asked to return punts and kicks, but he did show. It was just shocking, right? But he did so in high school. So, because,

I'm pretty sure Casey, Casey Concepcion returned punts and kicks for them, right? Or at least punts? Not both, but I don't remember which off the top of my head. So if with Casey gone, I'm thinking Craver's probably got a shot to get some more special teams experience here. Small build, probably a slot only type of a wide receiver. His route running is kind of just being faster than everybody else right now. But again, like I like the effort from him.

I like the focus. I like where he's at going into his junior season. I didn't, that doesn't match for what I saw Ryan Coleman Williams last year. So that's why, you know, going back and forth between the two like the chat was doing. I'm a lot higher on Craver who, I think if he gets more nuanced, you've got a lot more speed to work with there for him for all three levels of the field, not just vertical speed. I'm with you, man.

And you know, you've done this show long enough with me. I don't love small skill players. This guy is just an outlier in that sense to me. Watching him reminded me of Jalen Waddle as a prospect. Oh, who! Now, sure, he's not there. Waddle was a insanely highly regarded prospect, and Craver is not there.

But in terms of stylistically, I saw a lot of similarities. Game-changing speed, 21 of his 60 catches went for 15 plus yards. Yeah. Right? Like, you know, almost 600 yards after the catch, he's just dynamic with the ball in his hands.

And that plus acceleration makes angles and tracking him down so difficult with him without the ball. He's got a legit spin move with the ball in his hands. He does, yes, yes. I think he's got a legit. It's a go-to agility, yes. He's been playing mad. You could tell.

You can tell. He's played mad. He's played mad in quite a bit. Yeah. So I'm with you. He's not refined yet. He is just faster than everybody. And that's why he's not a Jalen Waddle

level prospect, but stylistically, I was like, wow, this is a smaller receiver that I'm a big fan of. One of the things that always shocks me is when I go back to look at Jalen Waddle's combine profile, actually he, these pro day numbers, Jailen Wadle was only a buck 80. You know, like, I think when you think of Jalen Waddle, he feels, he feels slender, but he feels stronger. You know what I'm saying? Like Jalen Waddle, even when he was in Alabama, I felt like Jalen Waddle could, you know, take contact and bounce off of tackles if they weren't, you know, good form or whatever.

But he was still only 180 pounds. Five, nine and a half. Yeah, it surprises me all the time. I know he gets the bump of the 510 listed on his pro, but like at the combine, or pro days, he was five, nine and a half. Yeah, Peter asked, does he pay the micro transactions for upgrades to his speed in Madden. Yeah, I'm maybe he does. Maybe he does. Well, actually, not anymore because Madden took that away.

Matt and took it away? Did they take all of them away? Or was it just... No, probably not. Probably not. Yeah, probably not. The gaming world we live in. Sad.

It was going... I'm not going to lie. It was going to be the final straw for me. I was not going to buy this year's college football. And it's just at some point, like, enough's enough. If they kept the dynasty micro-transactions in. That's sacred. Yeah, I didn't love it.

Like everybody obviously didn't love it. And they took it out of the games. But it's one of those things where it's like, okay, am I going to am I going to take a stand and then just not play video games with my friends? It's just a terrible place to be in. This is where my group chat

went. We were just going to continue our dynasty that we already have of last year's game. And it was like if they want to, and they made the change so we're going to get the new one. But eventually it's like, what point is this just ridiculous? I'm going to be Broncos fans only in the chat said, sorry I'm late.

Any chance you can restart? Yeah, sure. Yeah, let's get to it. So number 12. What's the opening bell? The NFL Staggy Shade show. Joe, how's your vacation? If you're not poor, travel. Yeah.

And if you're a single loser, also travel. Look, I said even if you're just going to the next town, I don't care. Just travel. Do something. Anyways, so I think it wraps him to Craver. I think he's a good player. I'm willing to bet on him. That's kind of where I'm leaving.

Nicely done. succinct. It's kind of where I'm leaving it. Put a bow on it. Yeah. Hey, by the way, yeah. If you're watching the show

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great stuff and we have a lot of fun while doing it so we would love for you guys to be a part of the NFL draft addicts the NFLS E addicts and subscribe to the show appreciate you guys is it nick morse time it's got to be i think it is you got him at eight whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on hold on chef Hold on, chef. Hold on, chef. Wait a second. He said it in the graphic. He said it in the graphic live on the show because he had you with Nick Marsh as your wide receiver four and me with him as wide receiver eight. And we had to make sure that we cleared that up there.

So you got him at eight. I got him at four. You want to start? You want me to start with Nick Marsh? I'll go light and then let you kind of run away with the buffet. A little horse debaurs. Yeah, exactly. That's right.

Nice little salad here. Nick Marshman, he passes the eye test of the number one wide receiver. He is a grown ass man. And he's got those big strides to build up speed. I love how powerful he is after the catch. Right away watching him after the catch. Some just throwing out ridiculous style comps today, not actual player comps, the coward's way. Like, hey, when he does this at his best, it reminds me of this superstar.

When he has the ball on his hands, it was the Brandon Marshall. Like, I'm bigger, stronger, and I could just throw you on the ground like it's nothing wide receiver running style, which is my favorite wide receiver running style ever. When you watch Brandon Marshall in his prime, it was like, oh, he's just, he's just bigger and tougher than every defensive back in front of him. And it doesn't matter. And when they were able to get the ball in Nick Marshall's hands, there's just countless examples of that. now I'm emphasizing when they were able to get the ball in Nick Marsh's hands. He's not, you know, he doesn't totally, he doesn't get all of the blame. He doesn't deserve much of the blame.

But I do think Trevor as a Routrunner in his release package, he's lacking a refinement as well. Like he, really? Yeah, I think that now in Indiana, I think it's going to take a giant jump. But you got some drops and failed contested scenarios and it's just not creating the right space. for him. And I think they're going to have the right coaching to work with that. He forced 28 mistackles last year. In a better offense and with some detailed coaching, this guy could blow up. I agree.

Yeah. I agree. That's why I got him at four. I think that the big issue that I have with him is I don't know how great of a straight line athlete he is. Because there are times when I look at it and I go, okay. this is plenty adequate. You can play in the league. We're good to go.

And not that I don't think that he can't play in the league. But there are other times when I watch him as like, okay, you got caught from behind. You didn't really separate there. You didn't really showcase, you know, like pro level explosiveness. But outside of that, man,

I think he had strong frame to be able to play on the line of scrimmage. I think that he blocks his ass off. I mean, he is probably the best blocking wide receiver in this class right now. That's a good question. And so I absolutely love that about him. I think that even. that even though he doesn't have elite athleticism, to me, he's got a

playmaker's mentality. When the ball is in his hands, he wants to do something with it. He wants to make guys miss, like you mentioned, have 28 miss tackles force last year. He wants to get that yards after catch again, even if he's not a blazer after the catch. He has that mentality, which I will always

know, even if you don't have the athleticism, if you have the mentality, that means that you're maximizing every single time that the ball is in your hands, whether you have that athleticism or not. Whatever your athletic, ceiling is, you're maximizing that every single time if you think about it like that. I think the big discrepancy of me having him at four and you having him at eight is you think that he's more unrefined than I do.

I felt like he was a nuanced route runner. I felt like he did have a release package that he could really get off the line of scrimmage pretty cleanly against corners that were playing up in true press coverage against him. I thought I saw a lot of that there. Now, that's not to say it always yielded separation. Again, like, maybe he's just not that fast. Now I'm wondering, like, it's got to be one or the two because he does not generate a lot of space for himself. Correct.

And I think it's athleticism base, which, you know, some people might look at that and say, okay, well, that's actually worse, right? Because one's tangible, one's not. Right. But when I watched him, man, I felt like he, I felt like he was tempoed in how he got off the line of scrimmage. I felt like he would sink his hips and really be. able to, you know, flip his hips, go inside, outside, and create that, like, moment of separation. Now, the corner could sometimes recover a little bit more easily than you would want to,

which is why I think it's a little bit more athletic-based. But all that to say, like, there's so much there with him. And especially for how good of a blocker this guy is, the value is there. For a player who has this kind of size, that's 6'3, 215 pounds, this is a, this is an NFL wide receiver. it just comes down to, is he a wide receiver three? Is he a wide receiver two? Is he a wide receiver one?

I'm not sure yet. I'd lean closer to like a wide receiver two type of a player, but this is an NFL player. And I'm really excited to see him in Indiana this year. I feel like that's an easy transition to their other receiver. Charlie Becker rules. Charlie Becker. Charlie Becker is the ultimate, like,

you guys had this guy. Dude, like when you watch their offense. It's so funny because we go through this all the time, right? Just you and I know a lot of draft addicts out there. Like you guys, you hear it all the time, right? The current draft class isn't even over yet. Damn, the season might not even be over yet. And that's what happened for Indiana.

They had Elijah Surat, they had Omar Cooper Jr. Right, these are NFL wide receivers. And I got people telling me, Oh, number 80s, the best of all of them. Like, oh, gee, look, just away for Charlie Becker. And I'm always like, yeah, okay, brother. I can't tell you how. Can you let me sit in one moment?

I can't tell you how many times we hear that. And then I turned on the Charlie Becker tape a couple of weeks ago, and I went, yeah, okay. Yeah, yep, they got me, actually. Yeah. They smoked my ass there. Yeah, cooked me. Dude, Charlie Becker is awesome.

So he's a true junior this year. Wouldn't even draft eligible last year. Six with three, 207. pounds. He is from Cincinnati, Ohio, obviously played football in high school, but also competed in track as well. He won state titles in the 110 meter hurdles, the 300 meter hurdles, and the 4x400 relay. So this is a true like track standout type of a player in high school. Committed to Indiana, playing 12 games of true freshmen, started eight games last year despite also playing with Elijah Surat and Omar Cooper Jr.

His brother Cole played college football as a linebacker for App State. His father played college football for Ohio State. And also played professional baseball in the minor league system for the Toronto Blue Jays. So this is quite the athletic family that he has here. Legit NFL size, legit track background shows up consistently with him. I mean, this dude is so explosive. The bursts, the jumps, the long speed. He started his career on special teams.

So he's got that grinder mentality to him where, I mean, he will give his all as a blocker. He is not afraid to be physical, especially at the catch point. You know, it's funny. I talked earlier on this show, kind of talking down to guys who just do like speed releases all the time off the line of scrimmage because it's easy and it doesn't take a lot of like technique to be able to do that. But the shoulder dip speed release for him at six foot three, 207 pounds is so smooth. It's so effective. And it's so easy for him to get even and then beyond wherever the corner is. whether they're impressed, whether they're three yards off the line of scrimmage,

whether they're eight yards off the line scrimmage. I mean, he is able to get behind defenders so, so, so consistently. He's got the long arms to match the frame, which help him really attack the ball when it is in the air. I wish he had more of a mentality for yards after catch to really round out sort of that short and intermediate game of his. But maybe we will see more of that with Elijah Surat and Omar Cooper Jr. now in the NFL.

But, dude, Charlie Becker, again, you talk about guys who are at, NFL players. Charlie Becker is absolutely an NFL player. Yeah, I mean, this is one where you could watch one cut up and you, when you're tall, explosive and fast, and you're averaging 20 yards per catch in the type of season that they had against the talent that they went against, the results speak for themselves. I mean, you watch the first nine weeks of the season, and then you watch them down the stretch for a national title season. Like, for perspective, in the first eight games, he had six catches for 105 yards in a touchdown. The final eight games, which was their run to winning the entire damn thing,

he had 28 catches for 574 yards and three touchdowns. He was making plays that won them games. Yes, yes. There is not a team in all of college football that has three corners that could keep up with Elijah Surat, Omar Cooper Jr., Charlie Becker. even Ohio State. And Ohio State has like the deepest secondary, I feel like all the time. Not even Ohio State has enough corners to actually be able to keep up with the team like this.

I thought he was strong enough to power through press. And then he could just outrun man coverage. Just outrun it. Like, yep. Leave your corner on an island. Beware with him. When they actually let him run routes, Trevor, the change of direction is there. Yep, I agree.

And AJ said the same thing in the chat. He said, I think he's going to run more legit routes this year. And I agree. I would love to see him do one. You have to dig deep and watch them like deep into the film and you're like, oh, it's there. That's the athletes. It's there. 13 and 19 contested catch opportunities.

I just didn't see a lot of weaknesses with him. I really, I just, I want to see a bigger sample size. Yep. He's a monster. I, this player, yeah. This player is in for really, really great things in his NFL trajectory. It's, it is so hard to not think of present day Alec Pierce with him, right? like, Alec Pierce, like, kind of started as just a bit vertical threat when he was coming

out of Cincinnati. And then the Colts were like, okay, we're going to put a little bit more on your plate. Okay, we're going to put a little bit more on your plate. And now all of a sudden, Alic Pierce has the 12th best wide receiver contract in the NFL. And could have got more on the open market. Top 10 when it comes to fully guaranteed. So it's like, I think when people think about Alic Pierce, like sometimes like, all right, so what is he just like a good vertical threat on this team? Like, no, Alec Pierce has turned into a legit wide receiver who's calling card happens to be the vertical game, but he is so much more. And I think that Charlie Becker is so much more as well. Yeah, man. I mean, it's just easy film to watch. It,

it really, really is. We got to talk about KJ. Duffinx. You got him at three. Yeah, Rutgers. Rutgers is fine in them. Wide receiver, you? Greg Chiano putting up wide receiver, you? Many are you saying. And they had Ian Strong go off to Cal, I think. Yeah. I think so. Both strong and Duff. Yeah. Duff, to keep the ridiculous stylistic comps, because that's what fun about summer. Like I saw,

I want to give them a shout out. Because you could have fun in the summer with stylistic comps. You go Megatron on this one? No. I don't, that'd be great. M. Kadoza said, he's the white George Pickens when talking about Becker. Like, it's just like, that's

the white George Pickens. Like, have fun with these. Duff to me. in his best moments plays like Nico Collins. He does. Wow. He does. Let me get to the scouting report here.

Just to, I mean, 6.5-225, you guys see that right there. Over 1,000 yards. He averaged over 18 yards for catch last season. He's big fast and physical. And speed per weight is what we're talking about here. Watching him move at 225, yeah, it might not be 4-38 or whatever, but it's a freight train. And it's not fun.

And those strides are really long because he's a real six five. Power forward in the middle of the field. Big, reliable natural hands. Like just plucks the ball to me. He understands, I'm bigger than the guy's covering me. I'm going to shield and position my body that they're not going to be able to get to the ball. And that's how he moves the chain. It's why he moves the chain.

So he's a big factor in the end zone. I mean, so he had 60 catches last year. 30 of them went for 15 plus yards. 30 of the 60 went for 15 plus yards. And we talked about the maddening inconsistencies of Calliak Manus in this offense. Some days he'd look like a great and some days he'd look like a guy that wouldn't even get a cup of coffee in the league. Right. And I see enough flashes to be an impact run blocker.

Yeah, I don't think he's a killer. I wish he had more of a fire as a run blocker. But there was a couple of times where I'm like, okay, it's there. Can they consistently get it out of him? Now, he drifts into coverage down the field a little too often. I don't think he's great after the catch. It's just not his game. He's not going to give you a lot after the catch.

But man, you're looking for a real X wide receiver that can challenge at all three levels and just be more physical than the coverage in front of him, but run well enough. Trevor, this player is, it's crazy that he's not a top two receiver in a class. And, you know, I know he's five for you, but it speaks to the talent of this class. No, I agree. He dominates. He does. And he's, he's a type of ex-wide receiver that outside of maybe having a little bit more fire as a run blocker, like, this is what you would want.

Because he's got the overall size of 6'5, 225 pounds. He's got great hands. You mentioned just the natural hands that he comes with, whether it's in contested catch situations or not, He is very focused. He wants to reel the ball in. There's not a lot of like, oh, you know, like he lost track of it or he started running before he secured the ball. Like there's just that's not a thing with him. Massive wingspan that he fully maximizes all the time.

Sometimes you get these bigger wide receivers and they still just want to catch it here. And it's like, buddy, go up and get the football. Or if it's going to be right here, like right in front of the chest with height, extend the arms. Go attack the football. Go get to it before. the defender has a chance to get it. I never have to worry about that when it comes to KJ Duff. So, yes, he's not a big yards after catch guy.

Not many 6'5-25-pound guys are. Right. But he's got more wiggle, a little bit more flexibility than you would think for a player of his size. He's not stiff per his size. No, no, he is not. No, weight adjusted, the way that he can move, I would say that he is well above average when it comes to

that size and the fluidity that he has. So I'm with you. I really, really like this player. Obviously, I didn't put him over Marsh or Becker, but I love the love for KJ. Duff because he's a hell of a football player.

And I think that the way that he moves at his size is always something that's going to be coveted. So again, like I said at the very top of the show, and like I've said a couple of times recently, this is an NFL football player. This is a starting caliber difference making NFL football player. It just,

is this a wide receiver one? Is this a wide receiver two? We'll see with. AJ Duff, but excited to watch him again for this season, which is only his true junior season. So he's going to be one of the younger players if he's in this class as well. All right. We are down to the big two. Yeah, the big two here.

Let's talk about Cam Coleman first because we'll gush over Jeremiah Smith the way that everybody has over the last couple of years. But I think it's very important to make sure that we also express our excitement over Cam Coleman. Because I hope that you feel this way. but this is also a very special football player. And we have, there's a world where, let me look at my rankings here. I mean, you go back to the very top of this show

when we were talking about how good this wide receiver class is. I think there's a world. Now, I don't know if all of these guys are going to go first round, right? But I think there's a world where Mario Craber goes in the first round and KJ Duff goes in first round. Nick Marsh goes in the first round, certainly Charlie Becker. I mean, there's a world where maybe Omari and Miller

gets to that point just because of how athletic he is. Brian Westco, I think he's probably more of a priority day two type of a wide receiver. But you have all of these guys that I think could legitimately be in the conversation for first round wide receivers. And then you get to these two and you go, these are top 10 wide receivers. That's right. These are absolutely top 10 caliber talent wide receivers.

Cam Coleman was Auburn over the last couple of years. Now he is at Texas with. Arch Manning in that offense. He's a true junior this year. He is six foot three, 210 pounds, and he has been gaining weight as he has gotten into college because he was really lean when he got to Auburn, gained a little bit of weight. I thought he was even lean last year, but he is filling out that frame the way that you would want somebody who is 18, 19, 20 years old, who has got an NFL future to be able to do. He is a former five-star wide receiver. Went to Central High School, which same high school as Bo Nix, by the way. One of

the state championship and was the MVP of the title game his senior season. Had 10 starts and was a SEC all freshman in 2024, started all 12 games last year. And of course, like I said, transferred over to Texas this past season. Connor, simply put, they, they don't move like this guy moves at 6-3, 2-10. I mean, it's supposed to. It's, it's, it is rare stuff. Great height, good arm length to match. He can go up against any single.

cornerback in college football and that he's going to have a matchup in the league. Not to say that he's going to, you know, dominate corners in the league right away. But he has the physical gifts and the length to be able to go up against any kind of corner in the NFL. I think that he cares in the little ways. Again, the gas meter, the give a shit meter for him to me is so high because he puts his all in a blocking. He wants to be a good route runner.

He wants to get clean off the line of scrimmage. He wants to do the things that you need to do to be a really. really good wide receiver and continue to get better at the NFL level. The change of directions way better than you would expect for a guy who's 6'5 foot 3, 210 pounds. The jumping ability is off the charts at times for him, whether the ball was in his hands or not. He's already got a good feel for soft spots against zone.

He doesn't just run, which I feel like he's talented enough to do, but he actually tries to find the maximum window of separation and throwing window for his quarterback. Incredible hand-eye coordination, not just with two hands, but also with one hand, as well. He's also, man, he had an injury in that Vanderbilt game and he came back in that game. And I saw the injury and I was like, all right, he's done for the day. He comes back in that Vandy game late in the fourth quarter and actually contributes to tying it up against Vanderbilt late in that game. And that's talking about like during the season that Auburn was having.

I can't remember where that was in their schedule. but like, again, this kid cares. He cares about being great. He cares about winning. I think that that's evident when you watch and play and listen to people talk about him. So not only is he supremely talented, but it seems like he's also a hard worker and wants to be great. That's when you get players who have that all pro potential. And I think the Camp Coleman absolutely has that.

I think he's a top 10 type of a wide receiver. I'm with you all the way. When I wrote out this class, I thought, Jeremiah Smith and Cam Coleman were in their own area that you don't get to go through every summer, right? You just don't. It's a pretty special territory. And for me, the most under the radar note I had when writing him up and watching his tape, he should have got more PI calls in 2025 than what they gave him.

I mean, it felt like every game I'd watch a play where I'm like, the guy is tackling him. And it almost felt like the ref, it's hard to call on the moment. But you look at Camp Coleman, it's like, well, what else he's supposed to do? He's so big. He's so gifted.

Yeah. He's so, like, his vertical leaping ability that he brought up his body control, he's an acrobat. The ref would kind of give the defender a little benefit of the doubt that he didn't deserve, that in the NFL you would never get.

So I'm looking at, and I'm like, Cam Coleman should have been even better, and he will be. So, man, the production will be better in what should be a better situation for him. I think he's somebody that just maximizes his leverage and understands how to work the middle of the field. Watching him run, it literally felt like the turf was just being chewed up at a rate where I was like, I don't know, man. It's just really, really hard to match. moving backwards the way this guy is moving.

I love him. And it's funny because before we started, you know, the work for this show, you know, everybody's hyping him up and he's in the portal and you look at the numbers and you're like, and he was a big five star. I've seen this a million times. And you watch the tape back, nope, he's way better than any of that. Yes, yes. Way better than any of that.

And I think he's going to be a superstar this year. I think, look, it's, I hope you guys know that we don't, we don't do super. we're lofty comps here. Like they're, we don't, we don't love to do them all the time. I've had fun today, but when we actually put real comps on,

like, no, you and I never do that. But like legitimately, this guy could be AJ Green. Like, like there are things about him that remind me of how AJ Green played

when he was at Georgia and who he could be when he got to the NFL. I mean, like, there are shades of that. There, there's no question about it. This kid is more talented than I thought that I was going to see when I

pop them on film and I'm excited to see him this year, which, brings us to the very last guy and it's pretty incredible that we have a wide receiver that's better than Cam Coleman. I'm going to be honest with you. But it's Jeremiah Smith, who is unquestionably the wide receiver one in this class. It's going to be, I mean, there are, I don't want to give away too much summer scouting. There are freaks in this class. The top five of this draft is some insanely high potential types of players. Jeremiah, So I can't even, I can't even fully confidently say Jeremiah Smith's going to be player one from start to finish.

When in reality, he's that talented that we maybe should be saying that. But there are other players, Dylan Stewart, Leonard Moore, like these are guys. Like, there are other players that will be in contention for that number one overall spot. And that just goes to show how good this class is. Jeremiah Smith, he's finally draft eligible as a true junior this year, six foot three, 225 pounds. Former five-star wide receiver from Miami Gardens, Florida.

Won a state title as a senior. One three state titles in track. The 110 meter hurdles, the 400 meter dash, the 4 by 400 relay. Committed to Ohio State started 15 games. It was a first team All-American, not just a freshman All-American, a first-team all-American in that first year

that he played. 13 games last year as well, another first-team All-American selection. And if he plays fully healthy this year, guess what he is going to be this year. Yeah, another first team All-American. That is just how good this guy is. The first line that I wrote for Jeremiah Smith, Connor, is strikes fear and defensive backs immediately.

No one wants to guard this player outside of DeAngelo Pond. I was just going to say there was one guy. Outside of the Angelopons two years ago when they faced on. Which is wild when you think about it. That's why we love DeAngelo Ponds around here. here. But he strikes fear into defensive backs immediately. And if defensive backs didn't have fear in their heart before the first play, the way that he explodes out of his stance, the strength that he has at the catch point, the vertical speed that he has, and how he is able to move. I mean,

all it would take is one play for a college corner to be. Oh, okay, I'm cooked. Good. Good. My entire, my entire mission here is to just not get put on some sort of a highlight reel that I'm going to see on Instagram later. Like that feels like that's how defensive backs are going up against Jeremiah Smith. We can talk about everything that he does until we're blue in the face. I mean, the explosive and this is there for him, the overall size, the catch strength that he has. He is truly a walking wide receiver one at the NFL level. The weaknesses, if you want to call them weaknesses for him, he's very explosive, but sometimes just the overall frame. makes it a little bit harder for him to stop and start so the routes aren't as crisp they're not as

precise but again weight adjusted at six for three two hundred twenty five pounds for as strong as he is we talked about this a little bit with k j duff you come to expect that you have to also be realistic with how these guys are built and the physical profiles that they have and that just goes into what jeremiah smith does well but uh there are so many more even beyond strengths just don't like dominant traits from this player who has a chance to obviously continue to be a very, very special NFL player like he has been a college player. I mean, people always throw around, like built in a lab. If you created a player, this is for at wide receiver in a video game, this is exactly how you

create the player. Correct. This is the player that you would create to go like, oh, I'm going to have fun today and I'm going to make it unfair for the computer. This is the player that you would make. Yeah. 6-3-225, carved that of stone, can run like the wind. I mean, muscles everywhere, big natural pass-catching hands.

It's just, once again, like Cam Coleman, those strides are really hard for corners to match. Powers through the jam, easy tracking. Flashes the perimeter run blocking like Duff does, but I think there's inconsistencies there. the one thing I wrote down where I was like and it'll be he'll work on this when coverage is going to get physical and he knows it's going to be you know a battle of strength rather than a battle of finesse

he sometimes runs into the coverage lowering his head and it disrupts his route and it's like dude you don't you don't need to do that you're probably stronger than him and you're definitely faster you got to set the tone you just got set the tone but compete level. I don't have any questions there.

Right, right. Yeah. They don't have any questions there. So. A lot of people, a lot of people have talked about the Julio Jones, like as the comp. Like, that's what a lot of people have thrown out. You know what comp I actually like better for him?

And again, I feel, I feel bad about this because we're throwing out some insane comps. But like, Andre Johnson, I think fits him more than Julio Jones does. I could see that. That's the type of player that I think that, Jeremiah Smith is because he because Julio Jones would win as an athlete he would like Julio Jones would obviously win with physicality but Julio Jones would also like route your ass up like Julio's body control and just like short area explosiveness were were pretty

insane for his size and Jeremiah is obviously it's a lot better than you would expect but to me he wins much more from bully ball physicality and when the ball is in the air 40 45 yards down the field, I am going to moss you. There is nothing that you can do about it. You could try to hang on for dear life. You could try pass interference, whatever. It's not going to work. But Eli's saying like A.J. Brown as well, like, sort of, but I, but I think that

Smith's even cut. Smith's bigger, right? And he's got more taller. He's a little bit taller. He's, I think he's got a little bit more length to him. But like, I also think that Smith moves a little bit more fluidly than A.J. Brown does, which is crazy to say with a player who's been a top five wide receiver. the road you're going down on Andre Johnson,

because I think we don't appreciate Johnson's pre-draft measurables. Andre Johnson, before the draft, and he was in the 2003 draft, he was the third overall pick, pretty good. 6-2-230, 34-inch arms, 4-4-1-40, 39-inch vert, 11-foot broad. This is probably the Jeremiah Smith range for everything.

Yep. Yep. I agree. And they're both on the all-arms wide receiver team. Yeah, you got to be. You got to be. Andre Johnson beating Cortland Finnegan's ass on the field was one of the more like jaw-dropping moments of my NFL fandom as a kid.

Literally, not action and nose. Literally. No, it was like, I didn't, because helmets off. No, I didn't see how crazy. It was insane. Wait, this could happen? Yeah, that was, yeah. What an insane moment in NFL history, no doubt.

He was like, whoa. And Corlin got up like clapping, right? I mean, he was. I mean, he was certifiably tough as hell too. You have to be crazy to fight on Trey Johnson. Yeah, you do, you do. You have to be absolutely nuts. What an incredible moment.

But that is an all-timer. Nemo Sports in the chat said, if he sat out the entire season, he might still go top ten. If he sat out the entire season, not only would the top 10 be a lock, He top five would also be a lock. He could, he could not play a, Jeremiah Smith could not play a down of football this season and he would go in the top five next year. I'm fully confident in saying that. It's going to be hard to just not have him as the number one player. And I say that as I'm about to start watching, supposed to be a really good edge group.

And Leonard Moore is insane. I've seen a lot of Leonard, but I don't know, man. He's comfort food when you're picking a number one player. It's true. I don't want to, I don't want to spoil it too much because I think we're going to do edge rushers. next but um dylan stewart man that kids that kids about as special as they come when it comes to the physical gifts that you can have for a pass rusher and i'll leave it at that the wife appeasing allegations are going to be are going to be unfair i think this time i love my wife i love my

wife. Appreciate you guys watching the show. Obviously, this is a long one. This is a monster of an episode. I see we've got a handful of super chats. And we're going to, we're going to get to those super chats in the after the episode portion of the show. But to recap our wide receiver rankings, our top 12s heading into the 2026 college football season for the 2027 NFL draft. At number one, I had Jeremiah Smith from Ohio State. Number two, Cam Coleman. Number three, was Charlie Becker, number four, Nick Marsh, number five, KJ Duff, six Mario Craber. Number seven, Brian Westco, Jr. 8, Amari Thomas, nine, Amarian Miller, 10, T.J. Moore, 11, Jaden, Great House, and 12, Jr., Cheryl. Connor, your list. Number 12, Deuce Robinson from Florida State. 11, Reed Harris, Arizona State. Number 10, also Arizona State. That's Amarian Miller. They cleaned up in the portal.

Nine, Cooper Barcate, speaking of the portal, he's now at Miami. Eight, speaking of the portal again. Nick Marsh is now at Indiana. Seven, Bryant, Westgo, Jr. at Clemson, six, Ryan Coleman Williams at Alabama. Five, Mario Craver. at Texas A&M. Four, Charlie Becker at Indiana. Three, KJ Duff at Rutgers, two, Cam Coleman, to Texas. Number one, the cyborg, Jeremiah Smith. We got some questions, I think, throughout the show,

and I just saw one now. Ryan Wingo from Texas. Ryan Wingo's draft eligible this year. He is a junior. He did not make my top 12. I, Connor, did you watch him? Did you watch Wingo? I did.

I ranked him 13th. So he just missed today's show. He was a little bit lower for me. So he's 6 foot 2, 210 pounds. built really well for a future NFL wide receiver and the dude can fly. There's no doubt about it. He was a four-star wide receiver, ran a 10-5-500 meter, multiple sub-21, 5,200 meter reps as well for him.

Started three games of true freshman, started 12 games last year. The kid can fly. And he's got a great build for a player who has that kind of explosion. It's the long speed. I just don't think he has a good feel for the game. Like I just don't feel like he, you know. One year. What did you say?

he's always in the same year that's that's what i'm saying like i don't feel like he he was constantly running himself into coverage i don't feel like he did well against zone outside of just running past zone coverage uh i think he had questionable hands he showcased questionable hands last year um sometimes i felt like he was a little stiff in his movements as well like okay yeah you got the long speed but can i see you get a little bit of wiggle in there as well to create more of that separation so he just needs to round out his game beyond just being a straight line athlete kind of reminded me a little bit of Breschard Perriman, who obviously Perryman was drafted very, very high as well.

But, you know, he was kind of just, he was that vertical threat type of wide receiver, and there's a place for that in the NFL. Obviously, if you play to the level that Breschard Perryman has, he made a long career out of it. But you've got to develop a little bit more feel for the game and feel for space and feel for when to be open. And I just didn't think that Wingo showed that yet as an underclassman.

I see FFB for real. Said have you watched either Tennessee wide receiver Matthews or Staley. I watch both of them. I like Staley. quite a bit. I had him 16th. Matthews, former five-star, started to figure out some things last year, but he came in all the way at 19 for me. So I'll just give you some quick notes on Staley, who I liked more than Matthews. Only a redshirt sophomore, six foot 190, really explosive into his routes, legit long speed, wins over the top, was generating separation in the SEC as a redshirt

freshman, needs to finish more plays, cut down on drops, he fights the football, he's just not very physical and contested situations, but he was a big time track athlete out of South Carolina. So I think Staley will have a big year for Tennessee. Last one before we get into the super chats, some people were asking about Evan Stewart, the wide receiver from Oregon. Yeah. I obviously, I can't. I had a lot that I wanted to see of Evan Stewart going into last year.

Same. And then he tore his Patel or tendon. And it's just, it's hard for a player who I felt, one off of athleticism and long speed too much to now not even have that trump card in your back pocket. We don't know exactly what the speed is going to be for him. I hope that Evan Stewart, it's the best version of Evan Stewart that we have ever seen this upcoming season. But a but teller tendon injury is just a lot of unknown. And so he's one that I wasn't going to rank in my top 12, but I obviously hope that he has an incredible year and is able to bounce back from that

injury. Yeah, a guy that I just, I have to see what he looks like when he comes back. It's impossible to rank him. But once upon a time, it was a big deal. All right. If you're watching this live, make sure you stick around in the after the episode portion of the show. We're going to go through the super chats and all the questions that we have there.

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