NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 210. Projected Team Needs For All 32 Teams (With Brad Spielberger)

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

Host Trevor Sikkema and guest host Brad Spielberger run through every team's projected team needs for the 2024 offseason and 2024 NFL Draft

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. In this episode, I am joined by our good friend and colleague, Brad Spielberg, who is a master of everything NFL offseason. Free agency, team needs, all that. And we wanted to have him on to update some team needs. So we go through every

single team in the NFL, and we tell you what their projected team needs are all that. And we wanted to have him on to update some team needs. So we go through every single team in the NFL, and we tell you what their projected team needs are going to be this offseason and for the 2024 NFL Draft. I'm Trevor Sykema. With me is Brad Spielberger. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the nfl stock exchange podcast i'm trevor sycamore that is not connor rogers which is a great way to segue into actually what this show is going to be all about that is our good friend brad spielberger who is truly one of the best in the business

at knowing teams in and out knowing salary cap, the market of who's hitting free agency, who he thinks is going to go where. And all of that means that we have a great topic on our hands to talk about potential team needs. We have done so many times on this podcast, ranked draft prospects. We have talked about teams and where they're picking in the draft order. But there is a major part of the NFL offseason that happens before the draft, free agency, that is a major difference maker when it comes to

what these teams are actually going to select. So today's topic is all about updating the team needs, how these teams have played so far, a little more than halfway through the NFL season, and we've got Brad to help us out to do that for all 32 NFL teams. Brad, my friend, how are you? Feeling fantastic. Finally making my debut on the Stock Exchange. Only bringing the average hair score, I think, from like a 9.8 to like a 9.5,

I want to say. No, dude, look at you. You've got the wave going on. You've got the wave going on. I haven't combed my hair this much in months. But, you know, I had to live up to the hype. But, no, I appreciate you having me. Definitely looking forward to it.

And I love this space. I think it's underrated how cohesive teams' plans are between free agency and the draft. We'll get into some more of the nitty-gritty. But I love kind of prognosticating and predicting what teams are going to do. And I think I do that in some different ways than other people in the space. So, it should be a lot of fun. Yeah, a lot of people talk about, like, oh, this like oh this person's like great he's the best at what he does like all full by pff bias aside brad is excellent at what he does the amount of times

brad that you have like nailed contract predictions that have happened over the last like even just the last year have been mind-blowing so i can't wait for our listeners to really get to tap into some of your knowledge. And you also told me before the pro the, the podcast, you were like, Hey, I've watched a little bit more college football, a little more prospects this year. So I told you feel free as we go through these teams, sprinkle in a little bit of whatever takes you got on these prospects. So I'm excited to hear that as well.

Yeah. It's funny. I would love to say that's because I work so hard at my job and I just want to be better and more well-versed. Really, the Bears haven't had a first-round pick in a long time, and now they have two. No, but all jokes aside, I am trying to get more into that space. You know, you obviously get brought on a million different publications and radio shows and whatnot.

I get asked draft questions, and last year I just kind of read whatever Renner wrote down and just spouted it out on the radio now i'm gonna have my own thoughts and opinions so i do i do feel a little more qualified to jump in this uh arena with you hey maybe uh connor bedard could also somehow save the chicago bears like he is saving uh your chicago blackhawks we don't have to talk about when the blackhawks played the lightning most recently uh nobody needs to hear about any of that let's let's do this by division though i think that's a good way to divide up the podcast and people that want to kind of like jump ahead to maybe their team or the divisions that their team is in. It's a good way to do it. So we'll start with the AFC East, and let's start with the New England Patriots, okay?

When you look at the Patriots, this is a team that has a top three overall selection currently. We figure this is probably going to be a team that's picking around the top five, within the top five, shoot, maybe even have a chance at the number one overall pick. A little bit of an outside shot with the Giants and the Bears via the Panthers in front of them. But what do you think about New England? When you look at New England's team, what are those big draft needs that you have? I honestly think this is, pound for pound, the least talented roster in the National Football League. You know, if you look at a roster and say, all right, like how many foundational blue chip pieces do we have? And you go team to team.

I think you would say New England is last in that conversation. So that's a good point. That's a really good point. Because when you said that initially, I was like, Carolina, though. And but when you put it like that, man, I think you might be right. And that's it's a good it's a good point to bring up like it is important to have mid-tier talent to have foundational pieces rotational guys depth etc but when you're this bad like the force multipliers the guys that

really you can you can build an offense or a defense around like you need some of that and i think in that particular perspective i think i'd probably put them last so yeah but obviously it comes down to like you said thePatriots game in a couple weeks. The winner of that game is a big old loser. Because I think the loser of that game is in prime position to draft Gale Williams or Drake May. And then the other obvious one is wide receiver. They are desperate for wide receiver talent. Not only because of what the looks already, but Kendrick Bourne, a pending free agent. i don't think taekwon thornton's ever going to become much of a thing like they

need whatever help they can get at wide receiver yeah no i agree with you man i think that it starts with quarterback obviously you know whatever a lot of people thought about mac jones going into the season i think there were some people were like hey mac's not too bad if you kind of build around him i feel like that ship is completely sailed at this point they're going to play out the season with mac and with bailey zi but it's it's going to be a different quarterback in New England so I agree with you I think that's where you start but wide receiver is a huge one as well offensive tackle man I feel like offensive tackle could have been a really solid selection for them if they would emphasize it a little bit more last offseason

and I think that that's just another area where they have to get better along the offensive side of things so a lot of different needs on this team i agree with you but it's to me they're gonna hone in on offense one way or another especially picking in this top 10 it's gonna be an o-line it's gonna be quarterback it's gonna be receiver just depending on where they uh where they end up what about the uh new york jets we'll get we'll get the jets out of the way connor's new york jets here because he doesnets here because he doesn't have any say in it. Obviously, one of the best defenses in the NFL right now. But a couple of these guys are up for free agency.

We think that a couple of guys might be cut at the end of the year. So it's going to be a little bit different of defense. But when you look at this roster and this team and you're projecting things, where do the needs start to stand out for you? Yeah, it is offense for me. I think if you were going to look at defense getting some more youth next to quinn and williams on the interior maybe as a spot you address but frankly i think they have even if they do lose a cj mosley i like quincy williams a lot even if you do lose a michael carter in the slot

like are you really going to pay or sorry you're going to use a premium draft pick when you have sauce and dj reed etc etc the edge rusher group is obviously absurd so i think tackle is interesting here mckay beckton is a pending free agent he is not going to get franchise tagged he's just not health wise i think at the level to where you're feel comfortable doing that i'm sure they try to retain good point yeah yeah i'm sure they try to retain him in some capacity but i just don't think that particular tool will be at their disposal there. So, you know, I go tackle. Obviously, Elijah Veritaker can play it, but I think they want him to be a guard long term. Frankly, I think Joe Tippman and Elijah Veritaker without Lakin Tomlinson is probably the future of those guard spots. So, yeah, for me, I'm looking at tackle for them early.

And I don't care what anyone says. I will never, ever believe that the Jets did not get jumped for Broderick Jones this past year's draft class. They said they love Will McDonald. I like Will McDonald a lot. I don't care. I'm convinced they wanted Broderick Jones. No, that's it. And that's a really good shout out because I think Will McDonald, again, like good football player, but they would have taken Broderick Jones.

They absolutely like even I'm not even trying to do the hindsight thing, given all the offensive line woes that they have had this season. Like they would have taken Broderick Jones before all of that. I mean, Mekhi Becton was a massive question mark and he's at least a little bit solidified at those questions at this point.

You know, long-term deal, okay. That's still how much you're paying him. But I agree with you completely. This team would have loved Broderick Jones. We projected him to go to the Jets a lot when we were doing mock drafts leading up to last year's draft but i agree with you there i feel like tipman you know played center wisconsin but like he i just think he's too big like i just think he's too big to play center so i agree with you i think that he's going to be much more of a guard um just too tall i think

he naturally loses a lot of that leverage anyways but is is bryce huff a free agent coming up he is a pending free agent and i found it strange they didn't make a bigger effort to extend him during the bye week during the offseason frankly i don't know i mean you still are gonna have john franklin myers an emerging jermaine johnson and will mcdonald like i would still spend there I would still try to extend Bryce Huff. No question about it. But he's going to cash out though, isn't he? He will. But at the end of the day, the undrafted status follows you forever.

The fact that he's, he is playing more on early downs now. He's not just kind of that mercenary third down guy like a Josh Uchi, but he's still, I think kind of has that label to a degree. So you look, he's going to get a bag, but it's not going to be like a 20 million a year bag it'll be like a 14 15 million a year you know if that sure yeah what's hassan reddick make like because that that like high end when i'm thinking okay hassan reddick is kind of that pass rush specialist but he's you know he's been huge there's been a lot of big moments for hassan reddick. Do you think a team might see Bryce Huff like that?

I don't know off the top of my head what his contract situation is. Yeah, it's a good comp. It's interesting. So he's three years, 45, and it was coming off of back-to-back double-digit sack seasons. Okay, sure. Yeah, like one with Carolina. I guess one was the last year in Arizona, I want to say.

It was like 15-and-a-half and like 13-and-a-half, like crazy production. And somehow the league let Philadelphia still sign him for like a market rate deal but anyway yeah I think that makes sense that that range and that comp even though obviously he's like a former first rounder off ball at times guy yeah I think it makes sense what about the Buffalo Bills let's move on to the Bills now this team looks a lot different now than I certainly a couple of days ago I mean certainly more than a couple of weeks ago, this is a team that had potential Super Bowl aspirations. And it just feels like over the last two or three weeks, especially, it's all falling apart in Buffalo. So what do you think about this team moving forward and some potential team needs for them when it comes to the draft?

Quietly a lot. I think they had a decent draft class this past year after a couple relatively underwhelming ones. I think for me, it's still been another pass catcher. I do like the emergence of Dalton Kincaid. I think he's played well, you know, Dawson Knox,

once he gets back and healthy, you have some 12 personnel sets there, but Gabe Davis is a pending free agent. And I frankly never really been a fan of his, regardless of the fact he's probably about to leave. So I think another option there was to find a day he's going to be 30 years old next year makes a ton of sense and then i know ken dorsey their offensive coordinator just got fired the defense the last six weeks is dead last in the nfl and e-paper play aloud and they played

the giants the patriots the i don't know they played four bad teams, Denver, and like, like the defense is bad. And, you know, both safeties are 32 years old plus. I think they have cornerback issues still, even with Trey White back, like he hasn't been the same guy since the ACL tear. So long answer short, I probably think another late first rounder on the secondary, even though the Kyrie Elam experiment has obviously gone very, very poorly, or more defensive line, because Von Miller is kind of not the guy you thought anymore. Leonard Floyd on a one-year deal. I go defense for them. Yeah. Corner, safety. I think those are two big needs for them. I know Bills fans are going to, like you said at the very beginning, be screaming for a pass catcher. This is one that Bill's fans that are watching and listening to the show,

I'd love to hear you sound off. Which side of the ball would you go with? Would you go with more of a wide receiver or corner? Because I agree with you. All of a sudden, man, this Bill's roster, we went over the last couple of years, a lot of great names there, but it's either plateaued or taking big steps back in some key areas. So they quietly have a lot of work to do.

What about Miami? I mean, Miami is obviously a team that has Super Bowl aspirations this year as well. They're just, I feel like, more realistic than the Buffaloes at this point. I look at offensive tackle for Miami. Like, I feel like a lot of the rest of the team is pretty solid. We do a lot of mock drafts here on the show, and we continually give them some sort of offensive lineman, whether it's a flexible guard tackle player or a solidified tackle

that might be able to slide in there right away. What do you think? I think it's like if I did a mock draft every day until now to the draft, it would be offensive line in the first round for them every single time. That's good. Yeah, Toronto Armstead's awesome, but you're never really going to know how many games you're going to get out of him. And then Austin Jackson's a pending free agent.

Isaiah Wynn, Robert Hunt, like the whole offensive line. Connor Williams, like the whole offensive line, Connor Williams, like the whole offensive line is pending free agents. So yeah, that's an easy one for sure. No, it makes a ton of sense. Okay, AFC North, let's start off with the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're sitting here at six and three, but I've said before,

their record's a little overinflated for where I think the roster is. Do you agree? And when you're looking at this roster, where are the needs that you can project this off season? Yeah, I do a podcast with our mutual friend, John Ledyard now about the Steelers. So I so i want to film every week yeah and i could not agree more i have no earthly idea how this even do you even do you even get a word in or is it just john

going off for 60 full minutes on uh on why the stealers are bad hey you're like the fifth person to make that joke so john's gonna hate to hate when I report back. Like, not even kidding. Someone made that joke on Pittsburgh Radio Airwaves. Secondly, yeah, that fellow, when the Steelers do not play good football, he'll rant for, you know, you and I like to talk, but. John, it's so funny. I love John to death. He's one of my best friends in the industry.

But you know how people say, like, Peyton Manning hates bad football? Like how people say like peyton manning hates bad football like above anything else peyton manning hates bad football that is john ledyard as well especially steelers football when the steelers or the bucks are bad this guy will i mean he will let him know and you know what we respect it for 100 yeah yeah it bothers him to his core but yeah so anyway so speaking of i've watched this team a ton um i think for them it's also secondary you know joey porter jr has has shown some good football already. I think you might have a legit, like, press man, number one corner on this team now.

But outside of him and Minka, they might have the worst secondary in the National Football League this season. And it's why the teams have kind of – it has been bend, don't break. They do lead the NFL in turnover margin. Their defensive line is obviously awesome. I think Keanu Benton is one of the better know better picks uh this past year at least you know based on early returns yeah so it's interesting because like broderick jones we talked about i think he's already starting to play some really good football as well he probably could add another tackle or guard but samalo and daniels look good on the

interior you're not going to get a center this early but they probably could use an upgrade over mason cole but anyway long answer short again, I think for them, I go cornerback, no question. Yeah, it's an older room too. You know, Levi Wallace, Patrick Peterson, DeMonte Casey, Channing Sullivan. How old is Sullivan now? Probably the youngest. He's probably like 28.

I was going to say he's only 27, but like, yeah, I mean, Casey's over 30. Peterson's over 30. Wallace is 28. But, man, it's just you got to get younger in that secondary, and I agree with you. I feel like that's a big area that you got to hit. What about Cleveland? Cleveland now, Deshaun Watson out for the season,

so the offense obviously wasn't a juggernaut while he was out there. I know he was banged up, but they're sitting here at six and three because that defense is so good. So it feels like this is going to be an offensive selection from you, but like where exactly on the offense would you be going? Yeah, I think this is where I'll drop in the point that like my favorite thing to do with a lot of these picks, even the first round,

but more so later, go look at a 2025 pending free agents list more than you look at a 2024 pending free agents list. Because as we know, rookies outside of top 50, like how often do those guys actually contribute as rookies? So not often. So in these front offices' minds, I think you're often drafting for the following year's solution. So this might sound crazy, but like for Cleveland, you know, Jedrick wills has his fifth year option next year jack conklin's career sadly might be over or trending in that direction with all the injuries he's had and then like obviously they have the best guards in the national football league right now in bettonia and and teller right kind of getting some some potential replacements for

a couple years down the line could make sense or they've obviously tried very hard to add talent at pass catcher drafting cedric tillman trading for elijah moore but they probably could still add more receiving talent yeah i would agree with you there that that that's kind of my thinking i think i automatically go to wide receiver but that's a that's a really good call on looking at the offensive line and almost like the two-year outlook with this team because you want to be able to get ahead of it i would agree that's. That's a good call out by you. Cincinnati Bengals, last in the division right now. I still think this is a playoff team.

I think that they're eventually going to make the playoffs. They're sitting, what are they picking, 17, 18, something like that. They're right on that playoff line because they're sitting there above 500 at five and four. But when you look at this Bengals team, it has been a roster that's been good enough to compete over the last couple of years so are there any big time free agents that are coming up that we got to think about when we're when we're evaluating some some draft needs for this team I do think

they've probably done the best job the last couple years of what I just talked about like you add a Miles Murphy in the first round when you have Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard you know and you look through all their picks you add a Jordan Battle you add a Dax Hill you add all these DJ Turner like these are day one and day two draft picks the team doesn't plan to play right away so I think that is huge and very you know important going forward but yeah the big name is T Higgins at wide receiver and I do think he probably gets franchise tag they try to work out a contract extension I frankly think it's going to look very very much like the Jesse Bates situation where who knows if he actually stays long-term look,

they drafted Charlie Jones. They drafted Andre Yeshivas. Like they've, they've addressed it again. But maybe another pass catcher or the big one for me, it's not going to be Brock Bowers, but a tight end on this roster, please get a tight end on this roster.

Ooh, no, I think that that would be big. And yeah, I mean like you don't let Yosefus and, charlie jones keep you back from i mean if you yeah if you have the opportunity to take a major difference maker a wide receiver a t higgins level kind of replacement uh then i think that you do that what's tyler boyd's outlook at this point because i feel like a lot of people look at the they look at the bangles roster and they go like oh boyd's been

there a long time and they're almost kind of ready to usher him out the door to draft another receiver, get somebody in there. But I'm curious, just from like contract perspective, anything you might be hearing, any kind of buzz or market, like is Tyler Boyd going to be on this team for a little bit longer or what do you think? I think he'd have to take like a pretty mediocre deal. So he's also a pending free agent

and he's been fairly productive, but a third contract for a slot only type of receiver like you're not going to get big money and i guess the last one we should mention too the interior of the defensive line is probably arguably above some of the things we've talked about dj reader is awesome is also pending free agent i like bj hill and some of the other pieces they have as complementary pieces but i think adding a stud on the interior would go a long way here. Yeah, yeah. I see that one a lot with mock drafts. Leonard Taylor has been a pick for them. Like if Jerzon Newton makes it to wherever Cincinnati's picking, sometimes I've seen fans really like him. His numbers on the mock draft simulator have been up, so that's a good call out as well. Last one

in the AFC North is the Baltimore Ravens. They're sitting here at seven and three. What do you think about where this team is heading and their direction moving forward? Yeah, interesting one. And, you know, Ronnie Stanley,

not going to play this week. And so maybe you do kind of start to look at, you know, offensive line a little bit, particularly at tackle. You obviously have Linderbaum and some other pieces there, some position flex guys like a Macari, et cetera.

But I think you want to stay out ahead of making sure this is a good offensive line for Lamar Jackson. And then I'll tell you the biggest surprise of the season for me, I was worried more about the defense than the offense here in particular, because I didn't know what to expect from this defensive line. Justin Matabuke is having like a career year through half the season. He's been awesome. Always been awesome.

But I still probably, and I know Baltimoretimore feels this way as well because they always do i'd probably go defensive line again with some premium draft picks maddie big is a pending free agent like i said um and then like there's just like you know ajabo's hurt tyus bowser's hurt like they're clowny is giving you a ton of production he's on a one-year deal calvin noise same thing i'd probably go defensive line and offensive line here i'm trying to look up because i i actually when you were like oh like they'll just draft a good defensive lineman because

it feels like the ravens do that all the time i'm looking up when's the last time outside of oa they drafted a defensive lineman in the first two rounds i guess ojabo okay ojabo's a pass rusher so i guess it really isn't isn't that big a video because you don't have to go back too far and you get tyus bowser where was he 2017 so i guess it's not oh wow and then he had a couple of guys who went second and third round the year before then so i guess i i guess it is that's just a raven's thing that's why uh that's why we're here and we're talking about that way i agree with you i did not think the defense would be able to turn it around this quickly from what we saw last year. I know injuries played a big role into that, but they're playing well. And for as much as I do agree with you,

offensive line kind of sneaky for the Ravens because they're playing really well right now. And it's a veteran group. And so all those guys are playing really well right now, but do you get ahead of the curve a little bit? Are you drafting an offensive lineman to make sure you are going to continue playing well up front on the offense? I think that that could be a, that's a sneaky need that I have not really considered with Baltimore that could be really smart. Getting to the AFC South now, this one's interesting. It's a lot of

teams that are kind of right around that middle of the pack, need to either that next step or we'll start with Tennessee let's start with Tennessee this is a team that looks like it is much more on the rebuilding side of things than not feels like there's a lot of areas that the Tennessee Titans need to address I feel sort of similarly about them the way you did about the Patriots where I think they have more star power like more studs to build around but the rest of that roster man a lot of spots that could be up for grabs over the next couple of years yeah no they seem like they're pretty far away and I think Rand Carth on the new GM probably understood that or appreciated that more than maybe Vrabel which I don't blame a coach wanted to hang on and see if you can make a run in a poor division the offensive line jumps out as the most

obvious one here i mean you saw andre dillard in free agency and he got benched like a month into the season he's back playing now because nicholas petite frere got you know hurt for the season yeah it is largely injuries but they're just not good on the offensive line frankly center aaron brewer i think's been kind of a bright spot and he's a free agent uh after the season so offensive line offensive line offensive line and then i feel terrible for Traylon Burks getting hurt in the Pittsburgh game because he was finally playing some good ball in that game after dealing with soft tissue stuff seemingly every week it feels like with him but yeah pass catcher and offensive line which is scary because the defense is not particularly good either I'm with you I think that yeah there's like I said

there's a lot of spots on that roster that are going to be up for grabs over the last next couple of years but it's we all we're almost locking in offensive line with the titans the way that we do with the dolphins because it just it has to start there you've got to be able to invest in it what about the colts so colts only get a handful of games of anthony richardson this year but handful of young guys playing really well on that roster, breathing some new life into it. Jalen Jones, Julius Brentz, when he's been out there, Josh Downs and what he has looked like. So the youth movement has already begun with the Indianapolis Colts. Where do you think they need to go next? Yeah, I think you still look at the secondary. I think Julius Brentz has shown some flashes so far, but the rest of the corners are

like former undrafted guys or guys that just that just probably wouldn't be starting frankly in a lot of other spots um in terms of big pending free agents michael pitman um you know i know he's not viewed in that upper echelon is he the best athlete no like i get why he fell to the second he also has like 15 targets a game for a reason like he's he's obviously a good possession you know big body 10 yards of catch type guy that if you lose you have to replace in some capacity. But I still, I would go secondary for them. And then again, kind of a sneaky forward looking. Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner, both awesome.

Obviously, Stewart is suspended right now, but they're not going to be there forever. And if you lose those two, it kills arguably the most talented duo you have on the roster. So I wouldn't be afraid of adding some talent on the defensive line particularly on the interior as well what is the like do like do you think they would retain pitman do you think they're like really trying to retain pitman or is it something where the team might be playing a little bit of hardball and they might be looking to because i agree with you completely like i love josh downs but he's a

completely different receiver from Michael Pittman. And like, if you like Alec Pierce, okay, cool. Alec Pierce is a, he's a vertical threat type of, like off the line of scrimmage receiver, using him more for like his deep speed and his vertical ability. There's not really anybody on the roster,

unless I'm completely forgetting somebody that does what Michael Pittman is able to do. So losing him, like you mentioned, would require you to either spend in big and free agency anyways, like bringing T. Higgins, but then it's kind of like money for money at that point. Or you would really have to address that in the first round. And that would almost become a pressing need. So I'm curious, just your feel of it. Do you think that he is somebody who they're going to try really hard to resign, or is it more of a they're playing hardball kind of thing? I'm a poster child of the issue sometimes with these deals between teams and players is

I think he's a good player trying to get great money, because obviously every player should try to get as much money as possible, and I get that. I mentioned his draft capital for a reason. He probably views himself in that echelon on pure traditional stats. Like he's an a hundred catch thousand yard guy pretty much every year. But is he a guy that defenses fear? Like probably not. Like is he a,

in the truest sense of what a number one wide receiver is. Do you, do you put him in that category? Yeah, I wouldn't, I would. There there's, and,

and you know, it's a, you know it's a you know it's an interesting game to play because you say okay there's 32 teams in the nfl so at least 32 guys have need to be like number one caliber because somebody's gonna get the targets on every team in the nfl but i would think of michael pitman is as that next tier kind of a player and again i agree with you completely when i think about him and what he's been able to do some of the highlights i've seen some of the film that i've watched i think he's a really good wide receiver i would like him on my football team but if he wants break the bank money then that makes sense so um i just wanted to kind of get your perspective on that because

there's no doubt about it we've given romo dunzey the widest year from washington keon coleman the widest year from florida state we have given them to the Colts in a couple of mock drafts that we've done here on this show. And Colts fans seem to really like it. And it feels like whether they have Pittman or not, getting another wide receiver would be a big deal. But if you lose Pittman, all of a sudden, it's basically wide receiver or bust in the first round. So I think that's probably kind of what we're talking about here. Let's talk about Houston, Texas next. Sitting here at five and four, man, what CJ Stroud is doing is unbelievable.

It feels like they have just nailed it at the most important position, and it feels like they nailed it at head coach, right? The way that defensive line is playing, how that defense is playing under D'Amico Ryans in his first year there. But it is still a roster that is incomplete that is building so they're playing better than we expected but there's still areas to get better here so when you look at kind of like who they've drafted over the last couple years how they're playing versus kind of what's upcoming where do you think detections should go when it

comes to their team needs it's all all defense for me which probably sounds interesting but i think they did a very good job of you know first protecting cj stroud i mean they now have top five paid a left tackle right tackle right guard um they use the second round pick on a center and obviously you know 2022 first rounder kenyon green you know hasn't played well or been healthy but i think you're good there nico collins has another year left so him and tank dell you probably could add more there i wouldn't be against that at all but for me it is defensive line along with will anderson jonathan grenard and jerry hughes are pending free agents i want to say maybe one guy has two years left and then sheldon rankins good piece but you know besides him on the interior malik collins is

solid there for a couple more years but i here i'll do a specific answer for you i if i'm houston maybe see if i fall into the jalen phillips range with a la to la to and let's go love it have a luxury pick where i i think he i personally to me he's probably the best address in the class but i don't think he's going to be a top 10 pick because of the medical retirement and all those things it obviously obviously worked out pretty well for Miami so far. So like for me, it's like you're sitting at, let's say 16, 15, and you're like talent wise, this guy is a top 10 pick, but he's here. Let's just do it. Cause they have, sorry, they have Cleveland's pick, not their own.

So that is right. But still, but like Cleveland with no Sean Watson, sure they're sitting here at six and three, but how many more games are they going to win? They're basically Cleveland to me becomes a New York Jets scenario where it's just it will the defense win you a football game or not. And their their starting point is better because they're three games above 500. But look, Jalen Phillips went 18. And so I think that Laia to Latu is the best pass rusher in the class. But I understand teams looking at his medicals and not wanting to kind of like sell the farm for him, if you will.

So that is a really interesting shout out. I would love that. I mean, you can as much as I like Jonathan Grenard as well. Gator great, by the way, him and Will Anderson. I mean, you need more than two pass rushers, right? I mean, if you're going to where you want to go, which is the playoffs and beyond you you need more than just two guys who can get it done even if they're edge rushers get a rotation in there um you can play all those guys on the field at the same time because of the size of of lotto you can sneak them inside so man i i like that idea a lot that uh

that's a fun one to think about last one here in the afc south this is jacksonville jaguars they are six and three um coming off getting their ass handed to them by the San Francisco 49ers. But I don't know. What do you think about this team and where Jacksonville is? Very interesting. I mean, obviously Calvin Ridley might get extended, might not. We don't know for certain there, so that becomes very interesting.

Same situation with Josh Allen. I'm not really sure why Jacksonville didn't try harder to get a deal with Josh Allen done. And shockingly, he's having like a breakout career year. I was going to say, they got to bring him back, right? I mean, is he going to get tagged at the very least? Oh, they have to. They have no choice.

He'll get tagged. And I think he still should get like Montez Sweat plus, frankly, plus money. Oh, sure. That's the thing. They should have been a first actor. And now Rashawn Gary and and montez sweat get done but now we're now we're getting into my my realm and not the point of the show here but no that's what i look that all of that is good in good context because you know you have a player that sure okay you want to bring him back but then like you're

you're breaking the bank a little bit for him so then that goes into okay then what can you give ridley what can you give other guys? All that kinds of stuff, which goes into draft needs for sure. So never shy away from giving that info on this spot, my friend. Fair enough, fair enough. But yeah, so long answer short, I would go receiver. You know, Ridley is 29. So even if you do bring him back, he's not a long-term guy.

Kirk's a good player, but, you know, looks like a slot only. And then, you know, Zay Jones, obviously, who knows if he's even on the team, you know, a week from today we're having this conversation. So I love Parker Washington coming out of Penn State. It's a random throw out, but like they have some pieces there. But I would continue to add pass catchers for Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, no, it's I like the idea of that.

I think fantasy football people would out there as well. And it seems like Jags fans are leaning towards that direction as well I feel like I've seen more chatter on social media for the Jags to go out and get a pass catcher where it felt like it was more of defensive centric mock draft selections through the first half of the year and now we seem to be swinging a little bit more towards that receiver position before we get to the next division this time of year it's all about setting up the checklist you know the routines getting make sure you're making sure that you are in your lane, that everything is handled. The most important thing on that checklist should always be securing your family's financial future, starting with life insurance. Fabric by Gerber Life makes it quick, easy, and affordable to

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To get to the AFC West, last AFC division. Let's do Denver Broncos. Let's start off with the Denver Broncos, man, because it felt like a month and a half ago, this was like the worst team ever, right? I mean, it was just a laughingstock. Russ's contract, the receivers are bad. The defense isn't what we thought it was going to be.

And now, eh, it's not too shabby. The roster's actually not looked good. So what's your outlook for this team? Where do you see the potential team needs and how they played a little bit better as a play? Yeah, it's interesting on both sides of the ball too. Getting back Baron Browning, him and Jonathan Cooper, I mean, people want to fire George Payton tomorrow.

I'm not sure anyone has found in the same draft class with a third and seventh round pick starting edge rushers that are actually good players. Like, you know, you're like, who's ever done that? Nobody. So, um, you obviously have Patrick Sertan, but I know Damari Mathis was like our lowest graded corner for the first 10 games or whatever, eight games of the season. Maybe you go there. Kareem Jacksonson obviously you know

might not be there much longer and justin simmons was kind of a trade name potentially so maybe you go more there yeah but that was that only was that only because they were bad like now that they're all right again is simmons more of a guy who's like no no like simmons is the guy we're not moving on from probably probably a huge factor of it for sure and yeah so it does change the calculus but anyway the guys that were most rumored to get traded i don't think it was just because they were bad because they've been subject to trade talks for two years now yeah um i mean i'd love to see marvin mims actually get on the football field on offense but um you know i think sutton and judy even if they're there in 2024 like i don't think they're

there in 2025 um so i probably get another another pass catcher because i like minors you know i like ben powers garrett bowles is still there for a little bit like anyway uh i think pass catcher or secondary is probably where i would go yeah yeah i i think i'd lean i'd lean receiver for them i don't know if that's just because i'm i like fun and there's so many good wide receivers in this class, but I think so too. Their slot corner though, McMillian,

I feel like he pops every single time I watch his team. So he's been a good one for them. But I think, yeah, maybe a safety if they like one of these safeties, a Cam Kitchens, a Tyler Newbin, something like that, or an outside corner. I think there's a handful of them to maybe get in the first round.

So I think that those are good targets as well as wide receiver. What about the Raiders? I mean, who knows, right? There's no draft preference. There's no, oh, this GM's done this in the past because Ziegler and McDaniels are out now. So I think like tendencies of what this team may have gravitated towards in the past, we can't really count on that.

But just roster in general, what are the needs for this team? And you think what is some positions they could go after in April? I think this is one of the easier answers of the whole the whole NFL, like interior of the defensive line. Like, go get one of those studs, get a Drezon Newton, get a can get a chris jenkins to just be kind of a plugger up the middle yeah um like i i think it's it's a screaming obvious need um yeah the secondary gets picked on a lot they've used some picks there they had like nate hobbs a decent player i think we'll see more from jacorian bennett i always kind of like trevon may rig i don't know how great he's been but like i like him too man i i was pretty high on him coming into the draft so i won't give up i'm not gonna give up on him no chance no but the thing with the crosby thing

is like it's not just that they don't really have much at edge rusher obviously tyree wilson's done nothing i think malcolm coots is like kind of coming out coming along a little bit here now but but i also think the issue is like they have some like decent rotational pieces blau nichols adam butler etc they don't have anyone that really commands much attention at all on the interior. And I think if you add a guy like that, like that to me is how you unlock a Max Crosby

even more than getting, you know, they signed Chandler Jones to do that. I think get a get a stud on the interior. That's how you really accomplish it. Yeah, they are firmly within the Jurzon Newton sweepstakes. I don't know if we get another

interior defensive lineman in the first round like i like taylor taylor's really nice pass rusher but he's still he's still really up and down to me and he's not the type of run defender in the middle that would really unlock the guys around him like you're kind of mentioning but newton is that type of a player so if they have their chance to pick yours on newton i think that could be a home run for them i agree with you on your assessment there another team that's in the jerseon newton sweepstakes we can go to them next is the los angeles chargers they're not sitting here at four and five and um man it's justin herbert sort of an aging wide receiver group

and that defensive line well i'll say the defense overall there's a lot of notable names but they just are not playing well it just feels like that defense is nothing close to what it should be on paper so i don't know where do you see this team it's not like minka i'm not minka i'm mixing safeties derwin james gets like five penalties a week at this point i feel like he makes splash plays but it's also like dude if you hit a receiver late over the middle one more time i'm gonna lose my mind um but yeah so like i think corner is obvious they probably have the worst outside of asante samuel they really have nothing there um but like guys they do have like michael davis depending for asian etc so i think there is one spot to look i do think he's playing much better now but i think little mac might get

cut this off season if he doesn't take a reworked contract i was gonna say he's playing much better now but i think lil mac might get cut this offseason if he doesn't take a reworked contract i was gonna say he's probably a guy who if they cut him they probably save a decent amount of cap right he's yeah look him mike williams are both pretty interesting and i feel bad for mike obviously with the torn acl but before that i already felt that way that he might be a casualty this offseason. So both of those guys are interesting. I think Keenan's playing his way into being a career charger, and that's probably the right way to go about it. But coming into this year when he missed half a season for a hamstring,

I also wondered if he would be there going forward. So, yeah, it's defense, defense, defense, and really they could use it anywhere. But if I'm them, I start up front. Like Austin Johnson's not a particularly good player. Sebastian Joseph Day has been a meh signing. I like Morgan Fox as a rotational pass rusher. But, yes, like you said, they're in the Jazon Newton sweepstakes, and they also should be open to getting younger at edge rusher

opposite of Joey Bosa. Yeah, that's a good call. Because, like, even Bosa, I think, what was the game that he looked really good in, but he was just beating the same player over and over again? Because outside of that game, I can't remember which. It was the Jets game. Yeah, he had three sacks in that game or something crazy. And it's like, okay, this is great,

but Bosa really has not been that type of player, even when he's been back out on the field, maybe not fully healthy. But still, I mean, it's tough to think like, okay, we got Bosa. He's locked down. I don't know if that's the case anymore you mentioned cleo mac though that's a really good call out because mac has one year left on his deal he is signed under 2024 but his cap hit goes from 16.6 mil to 38.5 next year and his dead cap hit is only 15.2 so they save a significant amount of money by cutting him and he is 33 years old so didn't think about that one but good call out there last team kansas

city chiefs i mean what's that what's the need here for the chiefs what do they need from you i'm sure you've talked about it extensively about wide receiver i mean i i agree i think it is the number one need for them. I like how she has produced, but I I'm being mean. I keep saying this everywhere. Like, have you seen him like run a route or do you see him just sit down in soft spots against zone and just run after the catch? That's what he's doing.

And honestly, we have talked about that here on this podcast. Like, that's what his role needed to be. And it's not what it was at SMU, but it's what he needed to be at the nfl level because he was not big he was not tall smu had his numbers way over inflated he shows up at the senior bowl in the combine and we go okay you're not tall enough and big enough and strong enough to play as an x so but he was explosive so the chiefs are actually getting the most out of what the player is for his strength. So I like that, but I agree with you. We have talked about like Xavier Leggett or A.D. Mitchell, right? Like these bigger bodied wide receivers because Travis Kelsey, he's not going to be there forever.

Certainly, you know, him with Taylor Swift. Now he could just run right off into the sunset. She's got more money than he's ever going to make anyway. So he could call a quick at any time and be a happy man. So they need to kind of figure out that big bodied player and uh obviously i'm kidding i don't think he's gonna hang it up like anytime soon but um even with him there i think they need a bigger body wide receiver so we are i agree 100 yeah no i think you do and maybe maybe not a first rounder maybe i'm a second rounder but i've become increasingly intrigued by brian thomas junior

at lsu um maybe as a guy that they had in the middle of the draft. Was he like 6'3", 6'4"? Probably. He's a big dude. He is a big dude. He is a big dude. He's more of a vertical guy. Like, he's more of a deep threat player.

But still, they even need that. Oh, yeah. I would still prioritize a stronger X receiver. But if Brian Thomas Jr. got on the Chiefs, he'd lead them in explosive plays next year. A hundred percent. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.

So yeah, no, it's a good shot. They need a guy that can like win at the line of scrimmage and, and be like the quick slant guy and do some of that work to just make things easier. But yeah, I don't want to be boring,

but like it's a good, the roster I think is really, really good. The defense is the youngest in the NFL by average age. And I think it was like a top five unit in the league. Oh, wow. Best team in the league, playing really well, drafting really well. Imagine that.

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He always does. He's going to get Caleb Williams. He might. You can't rule it out, Trev. That's the problem. If you know it's ridiculous, you can't rule it out. No, you can't. I think this one's pretty obvious for me, too.

I think it's corner. Darius Slay is, what, 32, 33 years old now. James Bradbury is 30-plus. They've obviously invested some resources there, but I think they need to continue to do so. And I like, you know, Bayard and Blankenship and some of the pieces they have at safety. I feel more comfortable with them now as opposed to the corner room.

So it's there. And then I hope it's not the case, but they might need to get a center, unfortunately, to replace, you know, the legend in Jason Kelsey. but they might need to get a center, unfortunately to replace, you know, the legend and Jason Kelsey. Now that's going to be a first round pick, but how he's not afraid to use like a second round or third round around an

interior guy. Maybe they, maybe they go that direction. Yeah. Secondary corner specifically. It does just feel, I mean like linebackers obviously there, but Lord knows how he's not going to,

how he's not going to do it with, with a linebacker is obviously there, but Lord knows how he's not going to do it with a linebacker. So it just feels like more and more corner is the consistent need for the Philadelphia Eagles. What about the Dallas Cowboys? Cowboys still in the playoff mix, obviously. Good football team. But where do you see their needs right now? I wonder about Tyron Smith as well.

Like I do. He's awesome when he plays. It's just such a question right now of how often is he going to be able to play. He's a free agent, right? Is Tyron Smith a free agent? I thought he was a free agent coming up. You might be right. He's a cowboy for life anyway.

You're probably right, though. I know, I know, but like it goes into the availability thing. Like he's what? No, no, for sure. 32, 33. So Tyron Smith, just name alone. The fact that he is as good as he is some other team out there if you let him hit the market might just go like we don't care

maybe you get hurt whatever but when you're on the field you're clearly a very good starting caliber left tackle so i i had thought about that with the cowboy it's the trot armstead principle no it's uh it's very true um yeah so he is you're right he's a penny fridge that's a miss for me so yeah like i like terrence steel i think you could you could kick Tyler Smith back out to tackle if you wanted to, but you probably don't want to mess with how good he's been at left guard at this point. So, Tyler Biedas is also a pending free agent at center. So, yeah, I'd probably go offensive line there. We know they love the trenches.

Mozzie Smith finally played well, but you probably could. I don't know. I like Oso Digizua a lot. So, they're probably fine there. Honestly, for me, yeah, it's probably just's, it's probably just offensive line and Dallas. You know, I mentioned the whole thing of like drafting for the future. They also do that as well as anyone. You know, we're now seeing Sam Williams start making plays, et cetera, et cetera. Like that's just what they do. So yeah, I'll go offensive line.

Yeah. Offensive line, I think is a good shout out. The other two, cause I just did a Cowboys like team-centric mock the other two that i would throw out there now that they're going to draft a running back in the first round probably even second round but tony pollard obviously coming off the franchise tag so depending on what happens there they might draft a running back at some point interior defensive line i think they got a lot of interior defensive linemen right now that are pending free agents so a new body could be in there um and then also i still like the idea of this team adding a corner and i like this is not deron bland slander he's been playing really well but um jordan lewis

hasn't been playing great and he's a free agent upcoming stefan diggs on the latter stefan gilmore sorry is on the last year of his deal so you get traylon diggs and deron bland in there but you need more than two good corners and so i I would not shy away from somewhere on day two, Dallas Cowboys looking at the cornerback spot as well. That's a good shot. Washington Commanders. It's in here at 4-6. Yep.

What up? I was just saying, it's in here at 4-6. Doesn't look like Rivera's going to make it. So probably having different decision makers here with Washington. Do you think Sam Howell is safe? I don't know. What do you think about this roster here? Rivera is going to make it. So probably having different decision makers here with Washington. Do you think Sam Howell is safe? I don't know. What do you think about this roster here?

Yeah. Josh Harris will make a splash and bring in a new head coach and general manager. I just, it remains to be seen who it is. I think it's going to be unorthodox. I think it's going to be different than what we're used to. So that'll be interesting. But look,

I mean, they have five top a hundred draft picks now because of the trades of Montez sweat and chase young. Yeah. I won't say how well is safe, but I actually do think he's playing his way into buying another year or two, you know, as time goes on for me,

for them. I mean, I guess edge rusher now makes a lot of sense, but yeah, the offensive line is a big one for me here though, too. You know, they made,

they made some additions this past off season, you know, bringing some former chiefs along with, with Eric, the offensive line is a big one for me here, though, too. They made some additions this past offseason, bringing some former Chiefs along with Eric Biennemi. But I think tackle or guard really could go a long way here. But they drafted Stromberg, the center out of Arkansas, last year. They have some pieces, but a blue chipper along the offensive line in the first round makes the most sense to me. Sure, sure. No, I could get on board with that. Yeah, we had talked about it a couple of weeks ago right after the trade deadline. I remember it was last week right after the trade deadline.

It was like, oh, yeah, edge rusher. That's what happens when you trade your two starting edge players. It immediately becomes a need. What do you know? So what about the New York Giants? An incredibly disappointing year for the Giants. Some of the young pieces that they've had there. Certainly, Evan Neal.

I mean, I didn't think that we were going to sit here with a question mark for the Giants to tackle for a long time. And now I wonder if that's a major need that they have to think about. Obviously, they're picking high enough to where you're considering Drake May or Caleb Williams. But just overall, what do you think about this Giants team, where they're at? Maybe they can naturally bounce back with some of the other guys on the roster, but areas that you would say, like, okay, when the draft rolls around, like, we got to hit a couple of these spots. It's all the premium positions, too.

So it's not looking pretty. But I think you have to go receiver. Like, I know you took Jalen High. You took Wondell Robinson. But if you're not on the Drake, May, Kale, Williams sweepstakes, you're taking Marvin Harrison Jr. And you're not thinking twice about it. So or I don't care about Waller. Take Brock Bowers as well.

If you have a top 10 pick and aren't taking a quarterback, I have no issue with that at all. I love Deontay Banks coming out. I think he's being completely left to die on this defense right now. Yeah. And then the weirdest thing I thought coming into the season that I scratched my head and said, why is this team doing this? The New York Giants, with Wink Martindale, who blitzes as much as anyone not named Brian Flores, chose to walk into the season with Kayvon Thibodeau and Aziz Ojolari as their starting edge rushers with basically nothing behind it. And I'm like, I've never understood a decision less in my entire life.

So Ojolari, I think, is a pending free agent. Regardless, he plays 300 snaps a year. I would go edge rusher for them as well man yeah i think i think dion tay banks is gonna be fine like i think he'll he'll be totally fine he's just playing in a very aggressive defense as a rookie and being asked to do a lot of very difficult things so not worried about him but but yeah. Yeah. For a team that prioritizes pressure, you definitely got to get better in that area. Do you see them?

Do you see them going after tackle at all? Like for that first round pick, you know, say, say they don't get one of the quarterback spots. Say they're picking like third or fourth, something like that. You got a chance to take Olufushano or Joel, whoever you want to play a tackle. Do you think they would? Or is it like, man, we got to give Evan Neal another year. We think that we're probably going to play him a tackle.

It's interesting. I mean, they obviously, Andrew Thomas wasn't a world beater right out of the gate. And so maybe they're reminding him, you know, and also this, like, look, I am not a, I don't even want to say this, but I'll say it. Like I i went to giants camp and they were running gassers with the offensive line and like evan neal's getting beat by john michael schmitz who's a tree trunk by like 15 yards and like maybe this wasn't trying because it's training camp but who cares but like he looked like the most out of shape guy on the field and again i probably should not have said that out loud but that that was, that was my perception of what I saw. So if he's getting beat by 15 yards by the center, then he's probably,

yeah, he's probably the most out of shape guy that's there. Didn't look good. And anyway, so I could be totally wrong, but that, that was what I saw. So maybe, but if I'm them, I give him some more time and I get a pass catcher that can actually separate on the outside to get the ball out of Daniel Jones's hands. But I get why people would want an offensive line. I certainly would not argue against it or be upset by it.

And I love those guys. I love Fouag at Oregon State. There's a lot of good prospects there. But I think they just – if you're sitting there like in a 3-10 range and those receivers are there, I think you just got to do it. Yeah, and by Daniel Jones, you, of course, mean Josh Dobbs, but we understood what you meant there with their starting quarterback next year. If it's not Drake May, it's got to be Josh Dobbs. I mean, that's going to be the case for basically every NFL team.

The NFC North, we'll leave the Bears for last. I'll leave the people in suspension to hear your Bears thoughts there. What about the Packers? Three and six, I mean, this is a team that was, you know, double-digit win team with Rodgers on it. You know, you move over to Love. there what about the Packers three and six I mean this is a team that was you know double digit win team with Rodgers on it you know you move over to love it looks a lot different but it's not just the quarterback position like a lot of other positions are letting them down big time so all of a sudden with Rodgers no longer there it feels like it's a massive turning of the page

they've gotten younger in a lot of areas already so what do you think about where this roster is and some needs for them? Do you remember how confident I was last year about who they were taking in the first round? Do you remember our conversations about that? I don't, no. Maybe you and I didn't talk about it. I put Lucas Van Ness for them for a mock draft

every single time I posted a mock draft on the website. Did you have a source on it? Or were you just like no no no i i promise i did not i was just like there's a there's a big wide edge rusher and like his team who played at iowa and like he's gonna get turned to do it outside live back or they're gonna rishon gary this guy like hey no more four i lose some weight and learn how to play on a uh two-point stance yeah it just made too much sense I feel more confident about them taking a tackle in this class than I did last year.

Wow, okay. David Bacanari's done. Obviously awesome when he plays, but he's done. And then I love Zach Tom. I think he's a stud. I think he's got good position flex. Hey, Melton Jenkins, all those guys, all they do, they're going to sit there with a top-ten pick and take the alt, Fashanu,

Fuaga, whoever, and that guy is going to be an with a top 10 pick and take, you know, the all for Sean, who Fouaga, whoever, and that guy is going to be an all pro for 15 years in a row and just laugh at Montez sweat in my bears for, for, you know, eternity. What about the Minnesota Vikings? Not gonna lie. Did not expect them to be competitive. Certainly after Kirk cousins went down, but I didn't even think they were going to be that competitive before Kirk cousins went down.

I thought this is a team that was in for big time regression after winning 13 games last year. I didn't think they'd be horrible, but I thought, okay, somewhere between seven, eight wins this season, which is a big step back from what you had the year before they're sitting

here already at six and four. So they're about to eclipse that anyways, with, with, with a guy who picked up the playbook two weeks ago. Now that Cousins is down. So what do you think about the Minnesota Vikings? It felt like they were about to turn the page.

And here they are still winning football games. So does that complicate things? Or where do you think that their needs are? Let's get Brian Flores' flowers. My goodness. I think this is the least talented defense in the NFL. It's nuts. That was even less than offensive regression.

I just said this defense is worse than last year's defense. Once they traded Zedaria Smith, lose Dalvin Tomlinson. And last year's defense was a bottom five defense in the NFL. Defensive line, defensive line, defensive line, defensive line. I think they probably will now find a way to get to Neil Hunter under contract going forward. But like, you know, I like with Harrison Phillips, the big fella on the interior is a good, good nose tackle. But outside of that, it's like, you're giving DJ Wanham,

like significant snaps. Like you're playing some dudes that brother, like they should, they should not be playing as many snaps as they are. So I'll go defensive line big time from Minnesota. Yeah. A splash along the defensive line. I could absolutely see that. That does make sense. Man, shout out to Cam Bynum, man. This dude is playing at borderline pro bowl, all pro level

with what he's been able to do over the last couple of weeks. So they got a stud in the secondary for sure. They're kind of figuring out a little bit of the rest, but even that group seems to be playing better. You need to get better up front. I would agree. That's a big area to hit. Okay.

The Detroit Lions. Lions looking like one of the best teams in the NFC. Absolute juggernaut right now. Where do you think their needs are? Still corner for me. It's unfortunate Emmanuel Moseley got hurt again. I hate that he got hurt at the end of last year in San Fran. I thought he was going to sign like a really nice deal

and was playing some good ball. Yeah. And he'll head to sign the one nice deal and was playing some good ball. Yeah, and had to sign the one-year flyer and get hurt again. I think outside corner is the number one for me. Looking back on it, I'm almost surprised in the first round this year.

Jameer, not even getting into the conversation of RB value, all of that. For all we know, Devin Witherspoon would be a Detroit Lion if he didn't get taken the pick before. But if I'm running the Lions, Christian Gonzalez is my outside corner, opposite of Cameron Sutton. But anyway, outside corner for sure. And then I still think you need more on this defensive line.

I love a lean McNeil. Obviously, Aiden Hutchinson's a dog. But outside of that, like, I think Hutchinson has, like, 52 pressures for us. They have no other edge rusher with 20 on the season. Yeah, so those two for me. I go defense. Okay, yeah. I even lean defensive line over corner right now.

I think they're playing some scrappy ball at corner. And so I think they're even getting by with the guys that they have. Not that they're not going to upgrade, but I agree with you. Lee McNeil, Aiden Hutchinson, but give me somebody else along that defensive line. If they had another stud on that defensive line, and they could get one. It is a deep pass rush class, so you get another stud, and now you're really cooking. All right, go off on the Bears.

What do we think? Bears obviously have a couple of premium picks in the first round this year. I mean, it's a team that's got a lot of flexibility on where they could go and they've got their chance to make some big time splashes in the draft so what do you think yeah you're down there in charlotte i need you to do like a rain dance but like an l dance every sunday just make sure they keep losing brother i don't need to do anything they're gonna keep losing i don't know i can just sit my ass on the couch and watch it on red zone that's fair or not watching a red. Cause they're never in the red zone,

but, uh, but yeah, so yeah, smoked them. Uh, so Gail Williams or Drake may with the first or second overall pick, I actually want to ask you a question that's like, I had talked myself into if Carolina's pick is three, can you convince yourself of like a JJ McCarthy mccarthy or whoever is the next guy hypothetically i'm leaning no at this point um yeah you're also in the no in the no yeah if they're picking three i mean you take you pick up a maserati from the dealership is what yeah yeah you probably pick up a brand new maserati yeah you're in an interesting spot where damn

okay so let's say we haven't gone through this scenario this scenario yet we don't have to spend a ton of time on it but like let's say Chicago picks three like let's say it's three and five you know what are your two picks at three and five for Chicago I go crazy I dig Maserati and Brock Bowers and just go just go nuts with it because like I am a believer look I love the tackles in this class. I do. I am a Braxton Jones believer at left tackle. Is he a premier guy? Maybe not, but I think he's a very capable player.

And I think pass catcher is a bigger need right now. And then I mentioned the edge rusher class. I wanted Jared Verst to take that step and be a guy that I felt comfortable using a top 10 pick on. He has not. Lots who's my favorite, but the medicals are a question mark.

I like Braylon Trice at Washington. He's a good good player but i don't know if he's in that camp that category maybe you do um i go nuts on offense maybe you do go alter for shanu and then a pass catcher but why not take more morphing harrison and brock powers in the same draft look i mean if you can't get a court i'm not reaching i'm i've done mock drafts or i've done this before but i just i don't like doing it i just don't like doing it. I just don't like reaching for another quarterback in the top five. I think this class is too talented with a lot of other players. Certainly like a Marvin Harrison,

junior and Ola Fashanu, like those guys, a Brock Bowers. And yeah, I, I might be with you. So like next year, if they did that,

their offense would be their pass catchers would be Marvin Harrison, junior DJ more. Is Darnell Mooney still under contract? Does he have a free agent okay so he's running for free agent but then you have brock bowers that is a sick trio for i don't know you could be playing quarterback i don't care oh it's josh dobbs never mind sorry it's josh dobbs it's obviously josh dobbs no real quick though just realistic answer probably trade one of those two and move down and just like stockpile picks but anyway that's not what this podcast is about no no no no that's not what this podcast is absolutely going to the extreme okay new orleans saints they're sitting here at five and five but

i'm not super confident it's on this roster so one of the oldest rosters in the league i actually messaged you whether it was yesterday or the day before okay tell me is the 87 million over the cap that they are currently at is is this fake or what do we do? Are they just going to cut half of the roster? What are they doing here? Yeah, so the way they do it is they set it up to where, like, they know they're going to restructure these deals. Like, instead of, you look at Philly,

they just go ahead and prorate stuff in advance. The Saints have these massive salaries and roster bonuses that they're going to prorate. So they're fine cap-wise. We're not going to sound the alarm. It's not fine because they're gonna prorate so they're fine cap wise we're not going to sound the alarm it's not fine because they're not a good football team and they're the oldest roster in the nfl by average age right and they're five and five with the easiest schedule in the national football league and the easiest yeah they stink anyway so um defensive line like carl

granderson's emergence has been awesome and he's a stud i think that that extension was a phenomenal phenomenal signing like i do like a lot of what this front office does um there's no question about it they know how to identify talent and they know how to retain talent um i know they just used a first round pick on brian brazee but kaylin saunders and uh nathan shepherd as like your starters is not great along the interior. Cam Jordan's awesome, but he's 33 years old. You probably could make an argument for left tackle because James Hurst and Trevor Penning is not really getting the job done right now. Or on this piece, whoever's playing a left tackle these days.

But yeah, pass catches are solid. Secondary is pretty solid. I think it's trenches again for them. I think it's something along the trenches. I agree with you you it's either offense attack or defensive line uh that's that's where we've honed in on it with the show what about the atlanta falcons uh i think quarterback is the obvious one right i think a lot of the rest of the roster is ready to compete uh even though some areas like some areas on the defense okay a little bit older so you can get ahead of that i know they signed a lot of veteran guys to just make that defense a lot better than it was previously but this rise is set up to compete uh

and i think the quarterback is the big one but outside of quarterback is there anything else that stands out to you not quite the same but they do give somewhat of the vibes of your tampa bay buccaneers you know pre-tom brady or like they are set at a lot of spots like it's different but but like and you could drop in a good quarterback. So yeah, that's the obvious one, but they're probably not picking early enough. I think it's edge rusher. Like, yeah, you have a great interior duo with Grady Jarrett and David Onyemata, but I think they're 31st or 30th for us. If you just look at edge rushers, their pass rush win rate or pressure rate is like bottom five of the NFL. So yeah, it's like Bud D dupree i know they just drafted zach harrison who i thought was solid and i thought people were kind of lower on

him than i was coming out of ohio state but um but yeah i go ed dresser for them for sure yeah okay that makes sense uh carolina panthers we mentioned they're one and eight one of the worst rosters in the nfl they've got some big free agent decisions over the next couple of years. J.C. Horn, Brian Burns, Derek Brown, right? I mean, I think there's a lot of key pieces on that defense and then offense. Shoot, man. I mean, you could throw a dart at a dartboard with all the offensive positions highlighted of what they would need and you wouldn't be wrong. But with no first round pick, how does that kind of change your mindset of what their team needs might not might be thinking we don't pick until the beginning of the second round it's interesting so like you know i think ikea kwan who has turned a corner and played much better so i like the

tackle duo of him and taylor moten um yeah i think you have to i think you have to at this point because they just don't have a lot of like there's so many other areas of the roster that they have to upgrade that like Icky has been way more up and down than I thought that he would have been this year. But you're almost like you just got to ride with it. Like this is almost okay. You made your bed. Now you got to lay in it.

I realized I put them in an article I did. I connected these two, and you'll love it. A nice gator. I think Prince Liam and Milan is interesting because we're not talking guys that I think are going to be there at 33 i don't know if you think he's going to make it that far but um yeah i assume he would be right maybe that's even a little bit rich but um and then i think i just also take the best wide receiver available at that round so like or that spot like doesn't egg buka make it that far maybe maybe not you mentioned

ad mitchell uh leggett uh who other guys i like in that range probably somebody a lot of people talk about like you just get way faster you know yeah yeah yeah so i really took mingo and like let's not write the story on mingo yet although it doesn't look great but um chark depending free agent adam thielen is 34 years 33 years old um honestly credit to him for producing as much as he has like i you know but yeah, pass catcher or edge rusher for me here. Last team in this division, it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Flirting around.500. Had the three-game win streak, had the three-game lose streak.

Now they just came off beating the Tennessee Titans. So I don't know. What do you think about the Bucs and where they are post-Tom Brady? Perfect, right, Trev? No issues. There's no's no holes right there's a lot of issues brother there's a let me put on my John Ledyard hat and tell you about all the issues that this team has yeah so um you know I don't think you've seen quite enough from Joe Tryon Shayinka obviously Shaq Barrett getting up there in age I think edge rusher does make a lot of sense here for them because I love the Vita Vita Collage of Canthi combo. You do have a pretty good secondary.

You know, you got to retain Antoine Winfield, but I think they'll probably tag him, work through it. I think Luke Gadecki has been kind of one of the bigger second year breakout guys for me. And Cody Mock's playing better as weeks go on, but you probably could stand to add a left guard or center. But we're talking like first round here. So look, does Mike Evans not come back?

Pause for crying. I think he probably will, but you never know. If he doesn't, if he doesn't, they're probably also kind of in that boat. Like take that next tier. Let's say they're picking 15. No, let's say they're picking 32. No, let's say they're picking 15.

Like does a Keon Coleman make it that far? I was wondering where you were going. I was like, are we going second round? Or, oh, no, never mind. He said they're winning the Super Bowl. Never mind. Yeah. I'm sure it would be as nice as possible.

But, yeah. So, yeah. Pass catcher or edge rusher, depending on Mike Evans' situation. But even if not, well, Trey Palmer's had some flashes. I don't know. If they bring back Mike evans which of course they will obviously they will there's no chance in hell that they won't um then you have i mean i really like their three receivers they would definitely need to upgrade a tight end like if you're picking

and you got a chance to pick brock bowers i mean you do it i think you sprint to the podium at that point because even with mike evans however much longer he's going to play if you bring him back you still need to start at least thinking about okay what might be next and you get brock bowers you'll be all right there so chris godwin's not going anywhere trey palmers i think a stud um interior offensive line i would agree i think that that's an area that you look at is there somebody worthy of that in the first round that would be the big question um and then edge rusher yeah sadly uh these the guys that they have on the edge marquise watts honestly intrigues me the most uh a late draft guy actually was he an undrafted free agent or they drafted yeah i

think he was undrafted dude i mean he is he is at least flashed where i go like okay i don't know if i'm gonna start him but at least he has been nice but you mentioned shack barrett's getting up there in age and we haven't seen enough from the other edge rushers so they definitely need help um in that area as well to everybody out there it's not a bird it's not a plane it is the most revolutionary ball trimmer that the world has ever seen gentlemen our friends over at manscape have done it again they've been working night and day to bring you a below the waist grooming experience like none other with their brand new lawnmower 5.0 ultra we're talking about a next generation trimmer with interchangeable blade heads

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it's almost impressive what they've gotten away with. Obviously Trent Williams, probably the best player in the game, but he's 34, 35 years old. And then I think I can make the case that the rest of the players are at replacement level or around replacement level. I know they've used early round picks on the guards recently and, but you know, and they paid the center whose name I'm escaping me right now.

But I think that's the most obvious is offensive line and then maybe corner. But I think you just, you just do it the best tackle or guard available. And you've said there's probably not an interior guy that goes in the first round. Yeah, I just had the best tackle available. And I think it's an easy decision for me. Yeah, beefing up the offensive line. It's where the eyes go.

I think every time you look at the depth chart and then you look at the picks they have, I think that that's a pretty common one. What about the Cardinals? Very curious here because this is a team that was projected at the beginning of the year. They're picking like back to back. They're picking one and two. Now it doesn't even look close to that. I mean, Arizona's picking four with their own pick,

but they just came off a win with Kyler Murray coming back. They've looked a lot more competitive outside of that. And then Houston, of course, above 500 now. Their pick right now is at number 20. So a little different outlook, but still two first-round picks or two first-round picks. What would you target for Arizona's team moving forward with these two premium picks? Yeah, I just want to quickly say I think Monty Austin Ford had one of the best first off seasons for a GM that I can ever remember.

And this is yeah. And like, I love Michael Wilson. I love Garrett Williams. I love BJ Jalari so far. More than honestly, I think I was going to like him coming out, frankly. And obviously, Paris Johnson has been good, too. So I don't know how much they're in love with DJ Humphrey. So maybe they do consider taking a blue chip tackle with that first pick.

I probably just get one of the elite receivers again that we've talked about time and time again. You have Marquise Brown, Michael Wilson, and then drop in like a legit X stud. I think that's immediately because with Trey McBride emerging now too, you all of a sudden have like an awesome, awesome core there. And then with the other pick, I know it's a 20 right now, but if you're in the Drezon Newton sweepstakes, you have to run that pick in as fast as you can. He'd be awesome.

Yeah. I agree with you, man. I like Keetro Clark, but I think that Keetrell Clark's pretty much a nickel only. Garrett Williams is somebody who I think could start on the outside, but if you wanted to get another corner in there, I think that that makes sense. But it is trenches for me as well. Past catcher, certainly if you have a chance to take Marvin Harrison Jr., I think you do.

But outside of him, even for the other great wide receivers, Keon Coleman, Romo Dunze, Malik Nabors, I'd still probably go trenches. If you're in range of picking those guys, there's probably some good tackles or pass rushers that are on the board. So I would go that direction as well for the Cardinals. Los Angeles Rams, 3-6. Man, just a total turnover of that roster where there's a couple of cornerstones. You got Aaron Donald, you got Matt Stafford, you got Cooper Cup.

I know Puka Naku is obviously playing incredible but the rest of the roster man it's a felt like there were a lot of positions that were up for grabs this past offseason so it's a young group it's a new group where would you go here if you were the los angeles rams i've actually been impressed early with byron young again a guy that i didn't like as much coming out and he's i mean obviously was wrong he's been pretty good already i did baby let's go let's go listeners of the pod yeah that's why you do this for a living and i hop on the pod once once a year uh because you actually know what you're doing yeah my opinion on who i liked and didn't like could not matter less but i figured out in there um but he's been good though anyway i still would go edge rusher here yeah like michael hoyt is

playing like minutes uh you know the guy's getting snaps out there um with all due respect i'm such a dick uh so i would probably still look at edge rusher extensively um and then obviously offensive line like i think they made a great pick with steve avila and he looks good already yeah he does but i would look at tackle strongly um frankly yeah they're gonna they're gonna be in that range for one of those top top tackles i think you run that picket what about quarterback because that is you know when they have had a top eight selection and you know if basically any non-caleb williams drake may player is on the board at quarterback is stafford situation to the point where you think because there have been the retirement rumors obviously he goes through injuries he's he's not like up there in age he could play a handful more years if he wants to but i don't know what's your thought how much longer do you think that he's gonna he's gonna play in this league

it's a very fair question i think this contract he's on which if i'm wrong i could be wrong i think it runs through 2025 so technically two more years beyond this current year um yeah am i right on that or is it yeah so it goes actually to 2026 but there's like a potential out where they could completely get out of it and save a lot of money on the cap after the 2025 season so i think it's in that range i don't think he finishes his contract i think he either plays like just 2024 and hangs them up or plays 2024 and 2025 and hangs them up yeah but i still wouldn't be opposed if you love a prospect there and you want to make that move like i wouldn't be opposed to it at all even if you want the guy to sit behind stafford for a year or two

right um because odds are the guy's gonna play six games a season like you know i don't mean any disrespect like i think stafford was playing awesome ball this year this injury this year also isn't like back or hip it's like he's's hit his hand super hard on the guy's helmet. Like that happened. So, yeah, I don't think it's a crazy thing to say. It just comes back to our conversation of like do we like the rest of this class. Maybe you do for them a Jalen Hurts type thing. Like I could be totally wrong.

I think we're going to see like Bo Nix, Michael Penix, and those guys in the second round, not the first. Maybe I'm way off on that, but they're older. There's some injuries there. That could be a good move for the Rams potentially. Yeah, it is. It's going to be an interesting conversation. It's going to be interesting to see how it unfolds with a lot of teams that I think are going to want quarterbacks versus, OK, this guy's a little bit older.

OK, this guy's not the the ideal quarterback prospect but do you go for them anyways because i think there are a handful of quarterbacks that you could then make cases for to be first round picks but what's the level of i guess i'll say desperation for teams that are going to want to pick that then that's when you start to get into that conversation of a lot of those other guys last team it's the seattle seahawks what do you think about the seahawks what they have currently a little bit of a winning window here for him obviously as a team that's competing for wins completely competing for playoff spots but uh what do you think about this roster super interesting like they're good at a lot of spots or if they're not good at a spot like ed rusher does jump out to me but they've used second round picks what three of the last four years i think

daryl taylor is a pending free agent so he is not going to be there like we are seeing the emergence of boy a mafe as a really good player right now i'll throw it in there again and i think daryl taylor is a pending free agent so he is not going to be there like we are seeing the emergence of boy a mafe as a really good player right now i'll throw it in there again and i think you disagreed i like derrick hall coming out of auburn um i think i was higher on him than most people whoa i like derrick hall too but you probably liked him more you you probably liked it more than i did oh maybe maybe uh i don't do round grades i just i just buys my draft analysis is purely vibes but uh sometimes honestly like sometimes towards the end of draft season, like we need that. Like we need just like a full vibes big board. Like, hey, yeah, I think this guy's a good football player.

Like no round grades, no like metrics, nothing. Just be like, yeah, he's a good football player. Yep. Yep. I just find new adjectives to describe people. Like Will McDonald's the springiest member of the class last year, in my opinion. But anyway, so, which I think is a fact. Anyway, so like I still like Chenowethoweth is great, but coming off the injury, like I said, they have a lot of pieces there.

But maybe you still go that direction. Interior makes sense, too. Draymond Jones, I think, has been a fairly underwhelming signing for the price. Obviously, they traded for Leonard Williams, but getting into that component, he is not only a pending free agent, he's also not franchise taggable because he's been tagged twice already, and maybe they find a way to just work out a deal. They probably had some conversations before making that trade.

Right. But, yeah, so defensive line jumps out to me, and then we've said this 10 times now, but I like their tackles, and I would go interior, but I'm not sure there's an interior guy that's worth a pick that early. Makes sense. Now we got to hear from you you now we want to hear from you people we did 32 teams and updated the team needs had a lot of good conversations a lot of good information from brad on those so sound off best way to do that is in the comment section youtube.com backslash at nfl stock exchange we don't know all the fan. So we do. We want to hear from you guys.

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