NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 227. NFLSE vs. Daniel Jeremiah Mock Draft

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers take a look at NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah's 2024 NFL Draft mock draft 1.0. The two go through Jeremiah's latest mock, while doing their own side-by-side, changing picks where they don't agree.

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. In this episode, we're taking a look at Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft 1.0 for the 2024 NFL draft, but we're not just looking at it. We're going mock for mock, baby. Connor and I are going to join forces. We're going to go side by side with Daniel's mock,

and we're going to look at some of the picks and make a few changes of our own, depending on who we would pick at certain spots. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers. Joining you guys on a Monday edition of the show. And it is a little bit of a mock draft Monday.

We didn't tease that at the end of last week, but we had a late Christmas present. Maybe is the way I should say it. At the end of the week after we recorded, And that is one of the best in the business. NFL Network's own Daniel Jeremiah put out his 2024 NFL draft, mock draft 1.0, which I know everybody probably went over to read. But if you didn't, we're going to be revealing those picks here on this show. You should still go over to NFL.com and click it because Jeremiah is the best and you should absolutely support him.

But Connor and I thought we'd have a little bit of fun. Instead of just reacting to the mock draft, we're going to go mock for mock. We're going to go Jeremiah's mock versus the mock that we're going to come up with here on this show. And we've got some fun rules and stipulations that'll make this a good episode as we get to talk about some of these player selections. But Connor, I'm excited for this one, man. Anytime the main draft media really starts to get involved, starts to put out their mock drafts,

this is when you know mock draft season is really heating up. That's exactly right, dude. When you look at it, him and Brugler, Dan Brugler from The Athletic, I feel like they just have a good hand on the pulse of the draft early is what I like to think they you'll see a player in here and you're like oh that's a little higher than we thought but they're probably talking to the right people that know that player's gonna test well or interview well or there's things behind the scenes or projections that are just different and it's not that those guys aren't doing their own work.

It's just that matter of, you know, really understanding the landscape. And it's something that I think you and I over the course of the show, which has been this Senior Bowl three for us next week. I think it is. I know our show launched right before Senior Bowl three. It's insane. It's at least two. I feel like we've been doing this for forever.

So I don't even I don't even really remember what it is. It's either three or's at least two. I feel like we've been doing this for forever. So I don't even really remember. It's either three or two for us. I think this is three. The show's not a year old. So it's two years old. So either way. It would be three. It'll be our third Senior Bowl as this show exists, which is nuts.

I think you and I have made it a mission with how much time we put into summer scouting to get better at that, right? Find the players that, hey, nobody's talking about this guy these guys also confirm it with a lot of especially like jeremiah and like you know he's worked with guys that were gm rgms in the league now right yeah he's still hiding from the league yeah so it's it's always cool to read his work and we'll get to react to it and and it'll be a lot of fun no it will be so the uh stipulations of this mock draft just to make it fun and to go and again to be a lot of fun. No, it will be. So the stipulations of this mock draft, just to make it fun and again, to go mock for mock here, what we're going to happen on this show,

what the structure is, is we're going to go through Daniel Jeremiah's mock and then Connor and I are going to side by side do our own mock draft. And the way that we're going to do it is if we don't agree with the pick, like if we would do something different, which I'm glad that you set it up this way because it is worth repeating.

Jeremiah, rightfully so, he says all the time when he does mock drafts, he does them with his ears. When he does rankings, he does those with his eyes. So his own rankings are what he thinks of these players. But when he does mock drafts, even some of these early ones, a lot of it is kind of what he thinks of these players but when he does mock drafts even some of these early ones a lot of it is kind of what he thinks about these players but like connor said he'll send some feelers out and you know he'll be like hey you know guys in the league like what do you think of this guy am i too high on this guy all that kind of stuff so you know that he's got like you said a good finger on the pole so jeremiah is doing these things a lot with what he hears in the league but if we want to change that pick we have to stick with a

player at that same position so maybe the mock at the end of the episode it's going to look pretty similar but it is going to be a fun way to look at what jeremiah has kind of the players and his thought on these guys and then what we might change it to ourselves but it's got to stay within the same position so that's the stipulations on the mock draft. Connor, if you're ready to get it going, I'll pull it up and we can get it. As a very famous man once said, let's ride, let's do this.

I mean, it's, you know, everybody knows that it's going to start at the top, pretty chalk here with the quarterbacks and the Bears who hired Shane Waldron on the day of this recording good for the bears they get one of the more accomplished offensive coordinators on the market big i i think the question i got the most in my mentions trevor was does this lean more that they'll keep fields or draft a quarterback and at one i don't know if there's necessarily correlation to because Ryan Polis is the GM and he's still there.

But I still believe this is a team drafting a quarterback and no coincidence. So does, you know, one of the biggest, if not the biggest draft media. Analyst and Daniel Jeremiah with them taking Caleb Williams first overall. Yeah. And look, I don't think this is a change from us. I think that we're going to go with Caleb Williams here as well. Like I mentioned, you guys can find this mock over it over at NFL.com. You can find Jeremiah's there.

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as we kind of got into this, but I do think that you are right. It still feels like Caleb. Until I get concrete reason to believe it's not Caleb, this is going to stay Caleb Williams. And for Jeremiah to have a Caleb Williams, you mentioned Dan Brugler, who we love, who is again, one of the best. He also had Caleb Williams as his QB one in his most recent mock draft. Until you give me a reason for it not to be Caleb Williams,

it's going to be Caleb Williams for us. So no change there. I assume that also means no change for us with his pick for Washington, which is Drake May as well. The very common one, too. Do you have any objections to this one? No, I think Washington is in an odd way, almost easier or just as easy to paint the picture

going forward as the Bears, right? The Bears, it is. They kept Iver Flus and Poles. They hired Waldron. We think they're going to draft a quarterback number one overall. And with Washington, they hired Adam Peters to be their GM. I think they will hire Ben Johnson to be their next coach. And I think they will draft Drake May at number two overall.

So I think, yeah, I think. Honestly, Trevor, I don't think these teams will pick up the phones for these picks. I think these picks are, they are probably very excited to make these picks yeah I think it's by the time it gets a draft weekend that's probably true right yeah yeah right it's a little early to be but yeah right but to your point I think there's people who are watching or listening to this show who would go what do you mean the Bears are going to be all over the phone they're going to figure out you know what the price tags were but by the time the draft rolls around they're probably going to have a better answer on fields maybe they don't maybe they've still got fields you know on the roster maybe he's still there maybe maybe draft

weekend really is when we figure out if the bears are all in on Justin Fields or not, maybe we won't even know until, until the card is in, which man, that would, that would make for a entertaining lead up to the NFL draft. So maybe that is the case, but for now we're going to go Caleb Williams at one. We're going to go Drake May at two.

Now here is one that I'm not going to lie. I'm surprised that Jeremiah has Jane Daniels at three and not because I don't think he's worth it I've had Jaden Daniels at three in a couple of mock drafts I think we have here on this show one way or the other whether you have selected him or I have selected him at number three for the Patriots but Jeremiah having him three to me is validation in that he is in this conversation, whether he goes number three or not. We heard Gerard Mayo, the new head coach of the New England Patriots basically say, we're going to pick a player at a very important position with our first pick in this upcoming draft. And he said a very good one at that. And the fact that he said a very good player, I went, hmm, is he just talking about Marvin Harrison?

Because that's an easy thing to say. Like, is he just talking about Marvin Harrison? Because wide receiver, also a very important position. The Patriots absolutely need one. So to me, I thought, okay, he could still be talking about Harrison Jr. But the obvious way that he was answering that question, especially with the smile on his face, thinking that he really couldn't hold back from what he was answering,

was about a quarterback. And for him to say that as definitively as he did must mean that through the preliminary work that they've already done, Caleb, Drake May, Jaden Daniels, They'd be good with all three of them. So I'm not saying that's 100% sure, but the fact that Jeremiah has Jaden Daniels at three makes me feel like it is certainly on the table. So this one, since it's a quarterback,

certainly it's not going to get a change from me. It won't, yeah, from me either. I keep looking at New England at three and thinking, man, they could just take the best player in the draft and marvin harrison jr and i i personally wouldn't fault them for that i would probably actually even advocate for that but they are in such a unique circumstance for them that they have not found themselves in in a long time and that is that robert craft is going into a new era with a new head coach. And I think they want a quarterback to be a part of that new era.

And it's not Mac Jones. It's not Bailey Zappy. And even though we've kicked this idea around, it's not Kirk Cousins probably, right? It just feels like getting everybody on this big long-term timeline. And Daniels has thought of this highly, quite clearly. So I'm not changing this. And obviously four is the easiest pass over in the entire draft.

Well, I was going to rope in the next three picks. Yeah, let's do it that way. It is the Arizona Cardinals at four. Jeremiah's got the Cardinals taking Marvin Harrison Jr. At five, the Los Angeles Chargers. He has them taking Romo Dun five, the Los Angeles Chargers. He has them taking Romo Dunze, the wide receiver from Washington. And then six, the New York Giants.

He has them taking wide receiver Malik Neighbors from LSU. So it is boom, boom, boom. Quarterback, quarterback, quarterback. Wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver. Which is pretty crazy, given that we have the offensive tackle prospects of the caliber of this draft class yeah it is right it it definitely is and I think it's two things one it's to show how important wide receivers become in this league and two it shows how gifted this class is right I mean three guys three of the top six picks are wide receivers and you can't even sit there and call that crazy you can't i'm gonna i'm going to change one of

these but you can't call it crazy at all so are you going to change malik going five instead of rome yeah i think you know what it is for me and obviously he's a, Jeremiah's a great evaluator. He's done this in the league at a high level. And he did write in the blurb about Dunzay, he's a complete receiver. That's just where I differ from most analysts. I don't think Roman Dunzay is a complete receiver. I think he's a good one. I don't think he's dynamic after the catch at all. I think that, I think it's just not part of his game personally. And I think neighbors, I would say is the complete receiver because he is so gifted at running away from people with and without the ball. And I think that's just a massive part of the NFL today. So now I'll say this. I like the neighbors. The Giants is just I put this is I've talked about this fit since summer. When you look at this team, when I was thinking Daniel Jones was still going to be the clear, defined guy. I was like, they got to get him somebody that's explosive and can change the game at all three levels. So it's weird because I love neighbors to the Giants. But if I'm the Chargers, I'm taking Malik Nabors over Romo Dunze. I think I am too. You know, you glossed over his first sentence describing Romo Dunze. Yes. Which is Jeremiah saying, oh, Dunze is my favorite player in the draft. That's what Jeremiah said.

It's high praise. And I think. In this draft? The Andy Sandberg, Nick Cage, SNL skit where he's like it's high praise it's high praise and I mean it is look you you you started this wide receiver talk talking about how good all three of these players are and we've talked many times on this podcast saying that they are all wide receiver one caliber players I would agree with you I think this show seems to be consensus Malik neighbors is wide receiver too so players. I would agree with you. I think this show seems to be consensus.

Malik neighbors is wide receiver too. So we are going to change that and we are going to go Malik neighbors to the chargers. And then since we aren't changing any sort of picks outside of the positions, I don't want to speak for you, but Romo doons, they go six then to the giants. Sure.

And you know, with this, I actually think I could sell this a little better. I know the chargers, and Jeremiah wrote this, they have salary cap decisions to make with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. But say you keep one of those two. Keenan. Say you keep Keenan.

100%. I really like the compliment with him and neighbors. Oh, sure. I don't really love the variance of that offense with a Dunzank. I like it. It's fun, but I think it's better with Malik neighbors where the Giants, the Giants just need able bodies that can play the position in all shapes and sizes.

Okay. I mean, Darren Waller is just unfortunately always hurt. I mean, yes, they got a little bit out of Wandel this year and Hyatt flashed and Slayton is still always a thing. But a dune day is for the Giants is like a number one that you're funneling the offense through. And I didn't see him that way. I didn't see a unique skill set coming to the Chargers with what they already have is what I'm trying to say. Sure. I think my if I had if I had a counter to that, which I certainly like I said, I agree that I like neighbors more for the chargers just because I like

neighbors more. I think it's sometimes that simple. Right. But if you're, if you're trying to get into, okay, who plays what I think Keenan just plays the get open dude. Cause he's that good at it still.

He's getting up there in age. So that's good. Yeah. Decline as it naturally does, but he's still kind of just that get open, reliable player. You know, if you're losing Mike Williams and you have Quentin Johnson,

I think they wanted Quentin Johnson to be more of a deep threat player. And he's just not like the hand-eye coordination and reeling things in over the shoulder and that deep catch concentration. Like that just was not there for him. So maybe they run away from a lot of people, but like, maybe they turn him into like a just was not there for him. So yeah, it doesn't run away from a lot of people. No, but like,

maybe they turn him into like a Rishi rice type of player. Like what the chiefs are doing with Rishi rice. I think that's a great call. That's what he's good at. So, and so if you do that, I can see somebody saying, okay,

well, Romo dunes, a more of a deep threat contested catch kind of a guy like mike williams was that's not to say malik neighbors isn't he's absolutely a deep threat he's just like a little bit different of a style he's more of a you know from the slot get away from people manipulate space whereas rome was more of that like on the sideline type of contested catch right receiver so it almost kind of depends what role you want to fill there. I don't think it's a wrong answer. But again, just talent overall, I'd be going with neighbors at five. Yeah, I mean, no doubt. I do think it's interesting, though, because I think I put a wide receiver

to the Chargers in my last mock draft, and a lot of the feedback, you know, when Roto World posts the Instagram posts, the comments just get wild. And a couple of, you know, Chargers fans were like, we just took a receiver. Like, this is insane. And they wrote a world blurb is just rogers hates o-line rogers is an idiot wants wants justin herbert to die yes yes no i want them to get another receiver rogers sentences herbert to

death long may he reign all right right. All right. So six, we're going Rome for the giants. Yeah. It's easy to flip them with the way we formatted this show specifically. I don't think there's another, I mean, no, I'm,

I'm not taking as much as I like Thomas and Franklin and Tez. I wouldn't take them over Rome. So we're going, we'll go Rome at six, seven, the Tennessee Titans. Joe all comes off the board do we have any objections there I think it's great it's a great pick for the Titans Falcons eight

Turner I I mean if we were if we were to switch this it would simply to just be because we want to switch it because you and I like Jared verse a lot as well yeah Turner and verse will be my top two edge players. I think. And I've, I had to feel for my, my final rankings. And I always warn you guys that why edge can change more than other

positions is because the testing is so important compared to other prospects. But if I just had to look into the crystal crystal ball, these guys go back to back in the mock draft. And I think there'll be in some form of one and two for me in the end. Yeah. I have Turner, edge one, slightly. Did you have Turner, edge one?

I can't remember from the edge. No. When we did that a month ago or whatever it was. Would you have Latu? I think I still had Latu versus Turner. But I've been going through more and more Latu, and I still like him a lot. But everybody knows the questions

there. I just think I love Latu. I think he's going to be a really good pro I don't think he's going to be the first edge off the board. No, between the medical and... Yeah, I think they're going to pick Turner. And Turner is going to teleport in his testing

he's just a total freak of nature God, I can't wait to see what he weighs in at right yeah he's gotten bigger he grew on me more than almost any player in this draft yeah right all right so yeah all right so we stick him with turner yeah you can keep it with turner if you want to have fun here falcons and bears fans if we flipped it with verse if you're a falcons fan if you got verse instead you're getting oh yeah more heavy handed power guy where turner's more speed and elusiveness and uh explosiveness and then the same would obviously be said for the bears if they got turner instead of versatile we've mocked turner to the bears i think before yes we have we have they already know that in the uh in the

triple team mock draft that we did for the Bears, I think we picked Turner every time. I think we definitely tried. We were like, oh, this is great. I also, it didn't click in my head that verse goes immediately after this. So it's literally one, two. Which is a big takeaway, right?

Like two edge players in the top 10 has not been common thought process yet. As much as you and I love a lot of this edge class we've presented the idea um but if with the falcons it's kind of been hey do they take a quarterback here and right and there's not having taking yeah maybe the supply just isn't well that we'll have that larger combo all right so we'll go to we'll go turner well we'll go Verse. For the Falcons and the Bears, that is equal to Jeremiah's mock. As of right now, the only change that we have in the top 10 is flipping Malik Nabors and Romo Dunze.

Yeah. Jeremiah just must be a big fan of the pod. That's all it's like. I know, I opened this up. I don't blame the guy who put together a good show. Yeah, usually you open up mock drafts this time of year and you're like he did what where well because you're gonna get to that programmed a certain way it's a we're gonna get to that yeah well we're literally right now in like two takes well okay so literally a 10 jets talisa fuaga is who dj has them taking, which, Connor, let me tell you this.

I could not be happier seeing this. Right. Because there have been times before where I have gone through this process in years past where I would love somebody. Like, I'd watch his tape and be like, God, this guy's a first-rounder. Nobody's talking about him. him like we're not talking about this guy enough he's a first rounder and

not to say like I don't mean this to say oh I was first on Talisa Fuaga like I you texted me I think in October one night like so excited okay so excited it's because he whips ass dude and so he's he is such a fun prospect. And there have been times before where I've gotten really excited about a guy, really excited about his abilities. But then through either talking to people around the league myself or reading mock drafts of people who are really plugged into the league as well, you just understand they're not going to go that high.

The league just does not think that highly of them. And I get bummed out. I get bummed out because I think they're not going to go that high. The league just does not think that highly of them. And I get bummed out. I get bummed out because I think they're good football players. The fact that DJ has Fuaga above Olufushano, and when we did the offensive tackle episode a couple weeks ago, I said on the show, it is so damn close between those guys. It is not a 1-2 Olu and Alt for me. It is a 1 close between those guys. It is not a one, two, Olu, and Alt for me. It is a one, two, three.

And to be honest with you, the gap was closer on my film grade between Olu and Fuwaga than it was to where Alt was. That's not to say like it was a Grand Canyon of a gap, but that's to say how much I liked Fuwaga. And the fact that he has Fuwaga above Olu Fushanu, it just makes me happy because he's because i think he's because i think he's a damn good football player and i think that the league

agrees that he's a damn good football player so all that to say this is for your new york football jets he has them taking fuga 10 over olu would you do the same so i was trying to think of who last year's was, and I would say Kalasha Canty was one of them. It was like, you can't take him in the top, you know, 12 to 15 because he's small. Buckingham, you're great, by the way. He's awesome.

He's so awesome, dude. I just I love watching that dude play. I think for for me last year, it was Deontay Banks. OK, and I'll say for you last year, it was Anton Harrison. We didn't think he was going in the first round the whole time. Yeah. I loved Harrison during summer scouting. And then I kind of learned that the league was a lot lower on him.

And I was like, oh, that's a bummer. I think that he's pretty damn good. And he ended up going in the first round. It's amazing. So that did make me happy. But yeah, I think if anybody, it was Deontay Banks. Because it's not fair to say that it's witherspoon because once everybody watched witherspoon oh he he took off like a rocket

and you and you and i you and i loved witherspoon basically from the moment that we watched him so i looked at this a little bit a lot a bit like you and then on the other side of it so you know what made me feel good about this piggyback off what you said i've seen some chatter especially when i i put him in my mock drafts to the jets at 10 people are like well some people are saying he's a guard and i'm like we we just need to as a society stop doing this all the time like i'm just begging everybody that if a guy is not a perfect tackle prospect that he's but he's a good run blocker that he's a guard we just we have to stop doing this so he's a damn good right tackle that keeps getting better in pass bro each year it might not

be perfect we've gone over this on the podcast listen to the offensive line rankings went through it so this was very reassuring because dj as we keep saying on this really knows what's going on and i mean here's a perfect example and we'll get to a little later he he puts font now to the seahawks and he he writes in the blurb he would slide right in at guard in seattle and he could play tackle in a pinch so he's being open to the fact that a guy like troy font now is it could be a you know long-term guard with tackle flexibility with with foie gras it's here's the tackle for the jets, right? Like that's how it came off.

And FUGA is great. I've been trying to send people the gap from him to the top two is not this black hole that it's like, well, man, we're going from, you know, two guys that should be bonafide top 10 picks to a guy that's like a late first rounder. I don't see that FUGA. I've been with you the whole way since you texted me that and I watched him. He's a top 15 no-brainer. He is special in the run game. He's so good as an inside zone blocker and he keeps getting so

much better in pass pro. Nobody can rush through him, which is very important. Now, the real conversation though is that the Jets pass on Olufesanu. And why I couldn't do that, Trevor, and I would have to change him to this pick is the goal next year has to be to keep Aaron Rodgers upright. And I still think Fashanu is such a gifted pass protecting left tackle. So gifted, great feet, great adjustments, long arms, every explosive off the ball where he dictates all the reps that even if he's not as good of a run blocker and it's not close, he's not even close to Fouag or all as a run blocker. He is such a unique pass protector that with the state of the Jets at quarterback, keeping Rogers and older quarterback upright. I think for Sean, who's a proready pass protector, and that's a crazy thing to say about a prospect in this day and age, because a lot of them just aren't. They just aren't.

I would change this pick to Fushanu, but I like that we can have the adult conversation of why Fuaga is justified going here, because he is. He is. He is, and I'm glad that we were able to kind of have that a little back and forth there we could change this to uh olu fashano even though i'll never forgive you for it um so all right we'll go we'll go fashano at 10 and i think there's another big conversation that we now get to have um at number 11 but before we have that big conversation if you got a family out there you need to get him term life insurance to protect him it's one of the smartest decisions that you can make and the start of the new year is the perfect time to get it done

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Man. Jeremiah says, I believe that Murphy is the top defensive tackle in this class. Connor, what do we think? I got a lot more work to do on Murphy to talk about this level. We haven't done defensive tackle, obviously, on this show yet. Johnny Newton's been my top dog since the summer. I'm going to be very impressed if I come away from watching the entire D tackle class and I put Murphy over Newton. I just thought Newton was so complete

for really almost two years now. And Murphy's a game record. There's no denying that. But 11. Wow. I can't I'm not sitting here killing the pick because I truly just don't have, like, do you have a better feel for this one? I just haven't looked at Murphy yet as this level of prospect, but I need to watch more tape of his. He could test like an absolute monster if you just watch any tape of his, but man, Vikings going D tackle at 11. That's with some of the talent that's on the board here. It's, this was definitely maybe the surprise of the entire mock draft. Yeah.

I could definitely see interior defensive tackle for, for the Vikings. Cause it's a need them going that spot at number 11. Like you said, it is definitely a surprise this past year. Murphy had a higher run blocking grade or run defense higher run defense grade than Newton did. And he also had a better pass rushing grade than Newton did. He had 48 total pressures to Newton's 45. Newton had a 15.0 pass rush win percentage.

Byron Murphy had a 20.2 pass rush win percentage. I'm trying to pull it up real quick because I think Newton's 2022 season was a little bit better. It was. So Newton the previous year had just a 14.7 pass or swing percentage, so it actually wasn't higher than what it was this year. But in run defense, he had an elite run defense grade last year of 91.9. So I think that Newton's a really really

good player Byron Murphy another tidbit about him Dave Brugler tweeted this out he will be just 20 and a half years old yeah on draft weekend that is extremely alluring in and of itself Murphy was also ranked 18th on Bruce Feldman's college football freaks list. We've got, so what did he say here? The junior who had 26 tackles, three tackles for loss last year, that was the previous season in 2022, has been clocked at 18 miles an hour on the team's GPS, had a team best 455 pound front squat and power clean 375 pounds.

He could have gone even heavier, but the strength coach shut him down. He said that Murphy could have gotten 500 on the front squat and 405 in the power clean. That is stupid strength. So you've got age. You've got a great year of production against some good competition. And you've got the freakish athletic ability. It makes sense i don't i i would not be able to change this position because we have not done interior defensive line yet right season was over

so i think that we should go johnny newton it's because you got the two solidified years but we'll probably find a home for byron murphy at some point because even what i have seen from him in 2023 even though it's not like an official like final regular season film grade kind of a thing i have liked what i've seen i've put him pretty high up on the big board i think he's in the 40s right now on pfs big board so i definitely see the rise i just 11 boy that's big so you want to do newton here it's one that i almost think we don't change because we just haven't done interior defensive line on that level yet. All right.

You want to show us, you want to show us some respect. Right. It is literally showing some respect. Yeah. I got Byron Murphy at 44 on the PFF big board. I might be way too low on him. So we'll catch up on that route.

We'll go Byron Murphy at, uh, I will be surprised though. I knew it was noon. He's been one of my favorite players in this class since summer. So 12, he's got Terry on Arnold as CB one off the board. And in his blurb,

he says, I think Arnold could go as high as fifth overall, man. This is just too hot to touch where your oven fits. This is like taking a baked potato out of the oven after it's been sitting there on 450. DJ, I love it, though. Stand on conviction. All right.

Yeah, yeah. He says he's the best cornerback in this draft, and he would pair with Patrick Chetan II to give the Broncos one of the best CD teams in the league, if not the best. Maybe. Highest fifth overall. You and I just did cornerbacks neither of us had terry on

cb1 no so if we're going cb here we're going cooper to gene right right that's just i'll stand this is the total opposite of the last combo we just had i have a lot of conviction on this and terry on arnold 20 years old was tremendous this year and tested a lot. He's athletic. You heard it all, and we just did the whole corner show. I mean, there's a trajectory for him to get a lot better because he's so young and inexperienced and really good. But I just don't rank him higher than Cooper DeGene. I agree.

I agree. We're going Cooper to Jean here, especially, especially the gene is your CB two. If the gene is your CB two, I was, I was actually, I was talking with Brett Coleman about this. Cause he was texting me after we recorded the cornerback show.

And he talked about how he's probably going to have the gene is more of a slot corner simply because he is that good of a run defender like a big nickel defender essentially like a roaming yeah i get it basically like a do-it-all secondary player and you and i kind of talked about him having that versatility and that ability even though we said that he is an outside corner um i mentioned to brett i could see him in sort of like that Jalen Ramsey role where they will rotate Jalen Ramsey in and out, depending on what the matchup is each and every week. So he primarily plays in the outside. But if there's, you know, a juicy matchup in the slot, you could put him on the inside and you're not going to have to worry about any sort of run defense either. So Brett was talking about that.

And I think if you are in a situation where you're drafting Dijon to the Denver Broncos, you set yourself up to be able to do that really, really well. You got one of the best corners on the outside on the perimeter in Patrick Tan anyways. And you can basically just say, okay, now we get to have fun and deploy Dijon wherever we want. So that's pretty sick, honestly. So we'll go Dijon at 12, 13 of the Raiders, Ola Foshano. So here we'll go, Fuwaga. Which, so funny about this, right?

We flipped this for the Jets, but it also works out really nice, in my opinion, for the Raiders because Fuwaga's a right tackle. The Raiders have one of the best left tackles in football on Colton Miller. I'm not saying Foshano can't flip over to the right side. I don't know that yet. But I do know Fuaga's a right tackle. And they need a right tackle more than they need

a left tackle because Colton Miller's really good. So this is one of those swaps where it's like, cool, works for everyone. Yep, makes sense. Saints, Bo, there it is. Knicks, top 15, baby. You love to see it.

Derek Carr blocked Daniel Jeremiah so fast after this mock draft dropped. David Carr did too. And David Carr and the other Carr. Yeah, and Carr's the movie. Yes, every single. The movie Twitter handle. Affiliate of Carr. Somehow blocked Jeremiah because he thought he was just catching strays out there.

Listen, this is your man, so please. Look, I completely agree with you, man. I think, I've been trying to tell the good people on this show, I think that Nix is going top 20. I don't know if he's going top 10, but he's too talented of a player at this point and has passed so many tests. You got to be able to take the Auburn film and just put it to the side. You got to start with the first two years that he played at Oregon. And some people are going to say, how can you

have that as a start to the knee belt? Not everybody breaks out right away. And for Bo Nix specifically, we talk about this with rookies all the time. We talk about this with rookies in the NFL when it comes to their landing spot. If you throw a guy out there to the wolves, if you will, to a situation that is not ideal, and they are not confident enough to handle the failures that are going to come with it, it doesn't matter how talented they are. You could ruin them mentally. And I feel like Nicks just got ruined mentally when he was at Auburn. And

when he was able to go over to Oregon, he was able to totally reset. And he was able to reset into a really good quarterback. And over the last two years, he has shown that he is not only better than the Auburn days, but he is getting better as time goes on. Yes, he's going to be older of a prospect. I don't care. I don't care. You can play quarterback until you're 40 years old. It does not matter. Geno Smith's balling out for, at this level, for the first time in his career, he's mid-30s.

If you got the talent to be able to do it, your breakout age could be all over the place. Is it better to dominate when you're younger? Yes, of course it is. But I am telling you guys, think Knicks is going top 20. Think you just got to accept it. It wouldn't shock me.

I think McCarthy is too, by the way. Or at least in the first, I shouldn't say top 20 for McCarthy. I think somebody will take him in the first round. Do you think he might have McCarthy in here? No, he didn't. Can we just talk about that? No, he didn't. He didn't have him or Penix.

This is where the quarterback, this is where it ends for the quarterbacks. Oh, wow. I'm actually really surprised that he doesn't have He didn't have him or Penix. This is where the quarterback, this is where it ends for the quarterbacks. Oh, wow. I'm actually really surprised that he doesn't have McCarthy in there. Me too. I think we're going to land on that. I think it's probably because he watched McCarthy. He watched McCarthy, and he probably knows how much McCarthy has to learn,

how far he has to go to be able to succeed at the NFL level. And I agree with him. That's what we said on the show. Yeah. So I like this. I agree with him. That's what we said on the show. Yeah. So I like this. I like this situation. The Saints are kind of stuck with Derek Carr for at least next year. But that's why I don't love this pick.

I don't like the landing spot. They made their bed. They made a bad decision. They signed Derek Carr to a big money contract with guarantees. Get the most out of him next year. I guess you could. I guess you could do this, and it would be different if I valued Knicks here, and I don't,

but I would rather walk away with this draft with Brock Bowers, or literally one of the higher end talent, Layatu Latu. Well, they need Edge for sure. Yeah. Man, it just feels like the wrong team, but I guess you can't say that if you believe in the guy.

It's this creates a situation that's going to be a powder keg next year because Carr is going to be so pissy about this, which he has to get over it. But compete, right? I know. I know. But we don't have to obviously change it because we'd have to put another quarterback here. And as much as I like panics, I don't have to obviously change it because we'd have to put another quarterback here.

And as much as I like Pennix, I don't even, I wouldn't have another quarterback probably going in the top 15 at this point from what I expect. I just realized I took Brock Bowers to the Bears at night. Why did I do that? Oh, like in our draft going. Yeah, in our draft. I don't know why you did that either

you must have just clicked on the wrong hold on i'm starting to near verse i think you i think i just was it was the fact that we went one two really quickly with dallas yeah we did and so i wonder i wonder if that's how it happened so okay uh just you yeah i'll talk to the mock draft while you catch up on our actual draft. So after Knicks at 14 to the Saints, Brock Bowers goes to the Colts at 15. This is a pick that Trevor and I have really liked. You've probably seen it in our mock drafts already. And I thought Jeremiah's blurb on this was truly how we're all feeling.

He goes, Bowers is going to be tricky to place in mock drafts. The talent suggests he should be a top five pick, but the debate about positional value could push him down as far as the Colts at 15. I mean, there's no better way to sum it up. Bowers is a no-brainer top eight player in this draft. And I think he's the third best playmaker. I think it's Marvin Harrison Jr., Malik Neighbors, then Brock Bowers. Yet, when you go through these exercises over and over again, it is so hard to find him a home in the top 10 picks.

It really is because of needs and positional value and all of those situations. So, I mean, personally, Trevor, I would, I would leave him here. I don't, it's just a sin to have Bowers continue to fall. Damn. You did that fast. I looked up and it was already done. So I would keep Bowers at 15.

I got the fastest mock draft hands in the West. They call me the Doc Holliday. I was going to say. Yeah, you really are. Without the tuberculosis. Right. Well, hopefully. Yes.

You don't need no dry climate. Right. No, I'm not changing this. Obviously, since we're sticking with the same position, I'm not going to put Jatavian Sanders here. Oh, my God. I didn't even think of the alternative anyway. So, I mean, over at 15, baby.

16, the Seahawks take Fontenot, another pick that I've absolutely loved. And your Fouaga feeling, this was my feeling at 16. Because when I put Fontenot to the Seahawks at 16, I was like, am I a madman? Like, is this going to be very not well received? Because, you know, even if he has to play guard with the flexibility to play tackle, is this too early?

I just think he's a great player, and I think it's a need for Seattle. And, I mean, this makes them so much better right away. I was just watching Dylan Johnson, because I'm doing his scouting profile. I was watching him this morning, and there is a rep where he either scores a touchdown or he goes out of bounds with a one. I can't remember. But Fontenot is blocking somebody, and they knock his helmet helmet off and he does not stop playing like he like he immediately the second the helmet comes off he realizes it comes off and i think he

realizes that he is not allowed to keep playing because you see for a moment in his head he's like i'm supposed to stop and then you see him the second later just go yeah screw it and he just throws his shoulder into somebody and basically just keeps playing the play so no man i i like i like uh um i like troy fowler now a lot i think that he is uh he's he's a really good offensive lineman we we definitely don't have to change this pick. Trying to think of who else. Well, I know we're going to change the 17th pick. So. Yeah, I mean.

For those listening. I might change this. Oh, okay. I might change this to Latham. Wow. I do think Latham's good. I'm higher on Latham than you are. Yeah, but are you playing him?

You feel good about him at guard? Seattle doesn't need a tackle. I feel better about Fountainow at guard than I do about Latham at guard. I guess it's fair. And I'd rather Latham stay at tackle. All right, we'll go Fountainow at 16. We almost drew a curveball, but we didn't.

I stepped in front of the incoming car tackle. All right, we'll go foul now with 16. We almost drew a curveball, but we didn't. I stepped in front of the incoming car. I was like, no, please. Who's 17? Quinion Mitchell went to Jacksonville. Corner two off the board. Was not corner two for us. I think he was corner four for me.

I think he was five. He was five for you. He was four for me. He was six for me. He was five for you. He was four for me. He was six for me. He was five for you. So he's five for me. Yeah. I had Tampa at five.

You had it flipped. But either way, I mean, you still had four corners in front of him. Oh, wow. Okay. He barely gets Kool-Aid in the first round. He barely gets Wiggins in the first round. Right. Okay.

All right. We'll get okay all right we'll get to that we'll get to that yeah so then CB2 for us Nate Wiggins yep yeah I'd feel pretty confident about that I feel good about that one too if you're going corner I think I think Wiggins is I think Wiggins is a stud yeah Yeah, I didn't agree, too. We talked about this on our corner preview. Mitchell's ball production was amazing in 2022. It's the only reason I watched him this summer. It's like Toledo corner.

Oh, that ball production is crazy. And Jeremiah Rode wasn't challenged as much as 2023. He probably wasn't challenged as much in terms of the aggression of throws. But he was targeted 62 times this year and 70 in 2022. He just didn't have the same ball production. I just good player made good plays. I just always go back to the game. We talk about all the time where he had four picks in 2022. And it's just, I can never get over.

I can't get over it. It lives. I go to sleep and think about it sometimes. What do you think think because you think that it's like stat stuffing or what a little no i still think he's good i know he's good but he's a really good player it's just amazing like interceptions how they could be perceived at times i still think he's really yeah no he's good player i would be i take nate wiggins over him but yeah um i still think mitch he's a good player. I take Nate Wiggins over him, but I still think Mitchell's a first-round player. But anyways, we're going Wiggins at 17. 18 is where J.C. Latham comes off the board to the Cincinnati Bengals.

We stick him with this one. I know you're... I would take Demarius Mims, but that's just me. I got Latham above Mims. Keep Latham there, then. Yeah, yeah, I got to do that. We'll get to Mims in just a moment. And he goes, well, obviously, the right tackle thing stays the same

because they're both right tackles, but you can replace Jonah Williams to get J.C. Latham in there. The Los Angeles Rams. I love this pick. La-too-la-too. Yeah, I love the fit. I love the player. I like the spot.

Doesn't even have to move. Moving costs, right? He literally just takes the Uber. We talk about that on the show all the time. I think mainstream draft media does not think about moving costs enough. Fonting out of the Seahawks. Right. I mean, Jeremiah sees it.

Why doesn't the rest of the society see it? You just got to understand any time that you can make a multi-billion dollar decision on a $850 moving cost. You got to do it. You have to do it. You got to do it.

You truly have to do it. Who are the Jets going to take from Fordham or Ruters at the 10th overall pick max melton yeah there you go there you go they're gonna get up there for like day three they draft max melton like with a priority pick in the fourth round or whatever and joe douglas gonna be like yeah we saved you know we saved we saved a lot of money on moving costs he's already got an apartment in the city. This was the right move. Yeah.

All right. So we're going a lot to the Rams. I like this as well. Obviously, I was a little bit higher on Byron Murphy. Not Byron Murphy. Byron Young last year, and he played a ton this year. They threw him out there immediately, but it's because they didn't really have any other options and so i still really like him as a speed outside type of an edge rusher but

the rams need that technician type of an edge rusher on the outside they just they just don't have one uh and i think lotto absolutely fits that bill so steelers at 20 this is where your boy mims comes off the board well this is fun too because they have Broderick already who flashed a lot this year and then it's like okay let's take Marius Mims and now we have the two Georgia tackles that are just absolute athletic freaks coming out and George Pickens and they got Pickens and Darnell Washington and Darnell Washington I listen you're not going to find a... The only thing I'll say...

Okay, actually... They're going to draft Cedric Van Praan in the third. There we go. How do they steal Ladd McConkie? In all seriousness, we can't change positions in this mock, so this is not really purposeful, but I'll still say it anyway.

I would be taking a corner here at 20. there's just no way i wouldn't take a corner here there's really good ones that's why the corner board in this scenario he in this scenario jeremiah still has kool-aid wiggins cooper dejean rake straw they're all on the board. Oh yeah. Good players. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to,

this pick is fine. It's just, man, the Steelers need a corner so badly in the supplies right there, staring you in the face. And then they all go in the next 10 picks. So what are you doing in round two? You know?

So I don't know. That's all I'll leave this one out, but I wouldn't change this. Corners deep. You know, maybe you're, you're, you're praying that you get TJ Tampa in the second round. Which is a great scheme fit, in a sense. I agree. They like that long, explosive.

Or Lassiter fits them. Yes. Yeah, I get that thought process. But they overachieved this year. So, they're not picking early in the second round right corners anyways we can't change it i think we're going we're going mims but yeah that's that conversation there i i don't know if i would go corner with mims on the board right it's not a bad pick there's no way this is in any way now jeremiah himself if he had terry on

arnold still on the board i think that he'd take him because he took terry on arnold at 12 and we moved that one yeah i don't think that he would fight too much against us wanting terry on arnold in steelers black and gold but we gotta stick with the next one's fun miami dolphins brian thomas jr oh i, this is what they do. Okay. Right. Tyreek's talked about retiring randomly. Like he doesn't need to, but didn't Tyreek say he's like, I'll play till I'm 30 and I'm done. And then he walked it back. So Tyreek turns 30 in March.

Obviously we don't think he's retiring, but he did. He walked it back, but he said he was going to play out his contract with the Dolphins. And when you look at it like that, that would mean he's playing realistically, like, you know, maybe two to three more years counting next season. Oh, does he still have that much time on his contract? Yeah, I'm looking at the structure of it and making sure I'm not counting a void year. He does. He's under contract till 2026, but his cap number in 2026 is 56.3 million. Classic. I mean, what? Why don't you just round it up to an even 100?

Why don't we just make even numbers here? Talk about the magic johnson i'm not gonna be here whoever wrote that one up was like yep what that not gonna be my problem yeah wow yeah so there's that that's funny well if it's wide receiver b Brian Thomas Jr. is next for me. Me too. And I think he's a hell of a player. And I would be, you know, scared shitless, quite frankly, if he went to Miami, just being honest. I did. So people who might be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I thought Tez Walker was next for you.

Because when we did the wide receiver episode, I had Tez Walker above Brian Thomas Jr. and Troy Franklin. And now I got him a little bit further. I only have him like 10 spots down. I think he's still top 35 for me. But what you said on the Wide Receiver Show stuck out to me about some of the yards after catch ability. Because sometimes you watch how athletic a guy is

and you go, oh my gosh, what an athlete in space, all this kind of stuff. But it doesn't always translate into yards after catch production. Roma Dunte is a little bit like that as well, like we talked about already on the show. So Tez is sort of like that feel as well. And because of that and how good Brian Thomas Jr. can be after the catch, how I think excellent Troy Franklin is after the catch

and how many missed tackles that he forced. Ladd McConkie is just a different type of receiver who I love, and so he's kind of around that same category. But that's why I ended up bringing him down a little bit because it's like, okay, I still really like Tez. I think he could be a back end of the first round wide receiver. Love what he is as an athlete,

especially as a vertical deep threat. But that aspect of it, just to give people transparency on why he's a little bit further down from where the wide receiver episode, that would be why. So I would agree. Let's go with Brian Thomas Jr.

for the Dolphins. Another pick though, I would have taken offensive line if they lose Robert Hunt and free agency, which a lot of people are thinking they're going to. They got to make this. This line has to be better. So. All right.

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Okay. You know what? It's not, you know it's not that surprising. No, no, no, no, no. It's not surprising to see Tyler Guyton in the first round. We've seen that before. We even talked about that in our latest mock draft. But Eagles.

Yeah. Okay. I mean, Lane's what now? 32? 33? If I was a smart human, I would just use the Google machine. He is 33. Yeah.

What a player. He is 33. He will turn 34 in may. So he will be a 34 year old next year. Obviously he played 16 games this year and he's still incredible. This is an organization that DJ usually has a good read on by the way. I'd go Morgan. Cause I like it like it me too so this is a pick that and i and guidance this is one of those where if it happens on draft night you kind of like you know under your breath you're like oh shit because you just know that that organization will get the most out of that player and you ranked them a little too low it happens all the time it's somebody asked me about guiding earlier this week and it's the thing is like we talked about on the offensive line show in a class full of really

great athletes at offensive tackle tyler guyton is without question oh yeah the best he's a without question and with him it's just the footwork's kind of a mess he doesn't have his balance under him at all times um he does not stay on his blocks he's more of awork's kind of a mess he doesn't have his balance under him at all times um he does not stay on his blocks he's more of a he's more of a shover than he is uh let me get hands on you let me get the grip strength going let me lock you up so like if if you develop all those things he's going to be one of the younger prospects in this class i believe it definitely makes sense but i'd still go morgan here i think that morgan Morgan has just shown more NFL abilities to tackle. The problem is that he might be a guard.

Right. I like Morgan a lot. He was tackle five for me. I can't not take him here. We're showing love to our boy Jordan Morgan. Represent. Houston Texans at 23. He's got Tim going.

Chop Robinson here. So this is one where I feel like obviously you and I are different chop is edge for for me he the other three guys ahead of him are gone mm-hmm so I wouldn't change this but I man Grenards a free agent which is a big deal hmm I hope that this pic doesn't have to happen is what I'll say. Oh, you want to bring Gnard back? Is that what you're saying? Or if you can't, still go out and get an edge rusher that fits under D'Amico. We've talked about how good this edge rush free agency class is.

I just think this is a need that you can solve with money that I don't feel like I need to solve it with my first round pick. You know what I'm saying? Sure. I really hope that this isn't the like I need to solve it with my first round pick. You know what I'm saying? Sure. I really hope that this isn't the route they have to go. But I mean, I think this is a better one to kick to you. What player would you change this to?

Cause you're lower on shop. Braswell. Okay. Power profile. For sure. We've talked about him with Houston. Cause the Alabama connection. We talked,

we did this exact scenario. Correct. I would, I would, I would very comfortably go because the Alabama connection. Correct. We did this exact scenario. Correct. It's fun. I would very comfortably go Chris Brass with him. Okay. If we're changing it. Well, you could change it then. I don't care.

Okay. I will. Okay. All right. All right. All right. So 24, Dallas Cowboys. Jordan Morgan going here to the Cowboys.

Yeah. Who do I have next in offense attack? I have Guyton, ironically, and that would be the flip. You probably, I might have Kieran. Oh my gosh. You from Yale. I think. Wow.

Next. That would be, he's good, man. Now here's the thing. Yeah, I do. I have Kieran, uh, right above Tyler Guyton. Okay. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

We can go Guyton here. It's fine. Everything depends on how, because Kieran is, Kieran's senior bowl. He's senior bowl now, so is Guyton. Oh, both those guys. I thought so.

Last I looked, this list does change. I have it open. I promise. I thought both those guys were in it. Me too. Why am I not seeing? Yeah, Guyton's in.

He's on the list. Okay. Kieran's not? I don't see him, which is weird, right? All right. I don't see him. That's weird. Now I got to look it up.

Now I'm going to check. Because sometimes they're on a different list. Why is it in my brain? I saw an accepted invite. I felt like it was too, but then I just Googled it and he's not there. So is he shrine or is he just nothing? Because he's too good to not be at an all-star game. He's a senior.

So you don't have any questions on eligibility. Maybe he just didn't. We're going like full true detective on Kieran and Amagachi right now. Why did I have it in my head that he was going to the senior? This is legitimately bothering me. I'm sure this is a phenomenal podcasting

for all of those of you. Oh, wait. He will miss the opportunity to prove he is equally capable against power five level prospects at the senior bowl due to recovery from surgery. There it is. He will attend the senior practice and meet with NFL teams, but he will not practice. Okay. That mystery that was solved at least.

Oh, he had a torn quad. That's why. That's brutal. That's a Triple H injury. Damn. Wow. I was really hoping to see him. Yeah, that one actually really stinks.

He dominates, man. Obviously, it's Ivy level competition, but you can only go up against who you go up against. Right. And he very clearly looks way better than everybody that he goes up against at that level. If he went to Mobile and pitched a shutout for the most part in one-on-ones, he'd be in the first round. Alright, we'll go Guyton here, but just know

everybody out there that we brought up, Kieran Abagaji, the offensive tackle from you. 25, go Pack Go. Graham Barton. Graham Barton. This line played really well this year, considering the adversity they dealt with. But it is nice to have a super utility man like Barton, right?

Yeah. And Jeremiah says that. He's like, you can play all five spots up front. You and I have agreed. Only player that I would think about switching him out for is Jackson Powers Johnson from Oregon. Get a true center. Which is probably their weakest, maybe their weakest point. Right, it's almost like.

Josh Myers isn't that good? It's almost like, like okay do you want the offensive guard offensive tackle versatility because if you do you're picking barton if you want the center offensive guard versatility because if you do you're picking power johnson i think we leave it but i like the idea packers fans please let us know yeah Yeah, let us know what you think. What would you rather have here? It's also a scenario.

We'll leave it again out of respect. All right. But, yeah. Bucks, Ennis Raikstra Jr. at 26. Like it. I mean, with a lot of the edge rushers off the board here already, it makes sense. I think this team's got to get way better at pass rusher on the edges.

But I also think that there's certainly reason to believe they got to get better at outside corner as well. We got Terryon Arnold still on the board. We got Quillette McKinstry still on the board. Even though I really like Ennis Raikstra Jr., both these guys are still here. So I would take Terryon Arnold. Right. This is how we flip the draft. And yeah, it would be Arnold for me. rake straw jr both these guys are still here so i would take terry and arnold right this is you know how we flip the draft and yeah it would be arnold for me there's a lot i like about rake straw but i'm not gonna sit here and lie after we just did the episode and say he'd be one of my top

you know four corners to go i it's it's not out of the realm of possibility he goes in the first round though and we've, yeah, yeah. No, absolutely. I think he's a first-round corner. I think his injuries will be the big thing to evaluate if you think he's going to hold up with his play style, how he's built him with his play style. That'll be the number one question teams will ask.

So we'll have Arnold go into the Bucs, and then Cooper DeGene goes to the Cardinals at 27. Good living for the Cardinals. You walk out Marvin Harrison, Jr. And Cooper to Jean. What the hell? Good living.

Um, McKinstry's here. So if you're sticking corner, we're going McKinstry. Yes. Both Adam CB4. Yeah. I mean,

it's still not bad. It's not bad. You got Marvin Harrison, Jr. It's not bad. You got Marvin Harrison Jr. It's two of the more premier players in all college football over the last two years. So you don't have to be too bummed out about it. Buffalo Bills at 28. Johnny Newton. This is where Johnny Newton comes off the board.

Are Bills fans going to be pissed they didn't go wide receiver? Who's left? You got Tez Walker who's left. Troy Franklin was on the board. Ladman Conkey. Keon Coleman. A.D. Mitchell. All those guys are still there.

You got to, right? I mean, Gabe's a free agent. We'll probably get the truth, or maybe we don't, about Diggs. Diggs was a shell of himself these last eight weeks or whatever it was. Like a total. I'm so bummed digs didn't catch that bomb of a pass from alan i i i said that that might have been the best pass of the season i was just gonna say that'll go down as the best pass of the playoffs and it wasn't even completed

and yeah you could argue you could argue season i mean newton is a great player good pick for the bills but i just i would take wide receiver here because you can't even sit there and go well they'll probably just figure it all out in free agency they're like 49 million dollars over the cap and they'll get down they'll make the cuts and all that but the bills are in position to address wide receiver successfully for cheap in my opinion and it's what do we make do we make an executive here we go rip up the rule sheet i think we yeah sure all right we're making it exactly i mean let's we can Yeah, sure. All right, we're making an executive decision. We can give that to Bills fans right now. It's the least they can get after what they've been through.

It's the least they can get. Troy Gracie is barking outside. She agrees. She's saying, take the wide receiver. I was going to say, Gracie is yelling that the Bills cannot take an interior defensive lineman while Troy Franklin's on the board. So I think we're going Troy Franklin here for the Buffalo Bills cannot take an interior defensive lineman while Troy Franklin's on the board. So I think we're going Troy Franklin here for the Buffalo Bills. All right, so Kansas City Chiefs, Devontae Walker at 29.

Since Franklin's off the board, it's basically either him or Ladd McConkie, but I actually like Tez Walker much more because you need that deep downfield threat. Rasheed Rice is the more underneath player. So I would stick with Tez Walker. I don't have any problem doing that do you i love this fit yeah i just think he chews up so much ground in his strides walker it'd be a lot of fun okay so lions at 30 nate wiggins at 30 that's good living you're you're the lions you're playing in the nfc championship game

you also get nate wiggins at 30 that's that's uh oh that's a damn good season all right so we gotta stick a corner we've had a lot go off the board already oh rake straws here so i think that's fine uh oh i had mitchell i forgot about mitchell yeah he's still here next for me would be tampa or mitchell so if mitchell's next for you that tie goes to him yeah did you have you I forgot about Mitchell. Yeah, he's still here. Next for me would be Tampa or Mitchell. So if Mitchell's next for you, that tie goes to him. Yeah, did you have, you had Mitchell above Raikshara? I did. Okay, so then it would be, it would be Quinn Young Mitchell then.

Going to the Lions, if we're going to change it, which we have to, because we can start you off the board. But yeah, man, you get another corner on this team, already making an NFC Championship game. Yeah, they need one. Quinn Young Mitchell makes a ton of sets. 49ers, another corner on this team already making an NFC championship game yeah they need one when Mitchell makes a ton of sets 49ers another cornerback clearly McKinstry here so now is this one comes down to we can basically because I think our rankings are pretty similar with where Tampa is versus where rakeshaw jr. is I have rakeshaw jr. higher that's who I would go with

but I think you have Tampa higher than him I do so actually had Lasseter over rake straw too but that one's close well massive hater um or who do we like better here for San Francisco right or rake straw well I think we talked about how Tampa's press numbers went up this, but they weren't that high. Because he takes a press corner here, right? He talks about how he loves the fit with Kool-Aid to the Niners, what they want, what they do. A rake straw is not a press corner either. Right.

I was just going to say. Lassiter is. Lassiter is, but I would not take Lassiter at 31. It's just, I don't think he's going to be a big tester in this group i think tampa can play man yeah because he could open he can open up and run like the wind yes i would go tampa all right like throw me a bone i will get tj tampa in there damn good player at 31 and then uh raven's picking at 32 he's got troy franklin so the next wide receiver for me is Ladd McConkie. I don't know who it is for you. Is it Mitchell?

Let me pull up the old wide receiver ranks here. They have enough underneath dudes, though. Right. I don't know if this is the guy that they need as much as we love the player. I'd pick A.D. Mitchell next. I think it might be Polk for you. It's Coleman and Polk. Polk would be a perfect Raven.

He kind of would be. Like just catches everything in traffic. Even though I'm not this high on him, he kind of would be. Just gets the snot knocked out of him and doesn't care. Yeah. And then we've talked about with Coleman, as much as he has his shortcomings and concerns the way Lamar plays you could talk yourself into Coleman there

because it's like okay we've been running around for seven seconds now let's throw on up to our small forward I like Polk the best out of the options for this team. I think I like A.D. Mitchell the best for the Ravens. Okay. So you want the size speed. Yeah, I want the size speed. I want the red zone ability. I want all of that.

I want it all. Well, Beckham's a free agent. So that takes away some speed from their team. People just heard me aggressively typing. So somebody said... That was wildly aggressive. Somebody said in the comments, well, I have a mechanical keyboard, but I also... Wait, what's that?

Like a mechanical keyboard? Yeah, what's a mechanical keyboard? It's just a keyboard that makes a sound... Like the keys are higher like the ones we used in high school and stuff on like a desktop sort of i don't know if that's exactly how it goes but like they are they are louder like it is it is a louder keyboard but i just think it's i don't know i think it's cool to have a mechanical keyboard and like some mechanical keyboards like the buttons oh yeah clicking is more uh like high pitch like some

of it is more like mechanical um mine's more um or just kind of like a thud but like some of it is more like mechanical um mine's more um or just kind of like a thud but like some of them are more like a ping sound so it's just like yeah but i also type very aggressive anyways because if i've never said this before on this podcast which i think i have i type with index fingers only only when we're at the combine wow you ain't more at the combine you come over the pff desk and you watch me write an article actually i know i think i do the same thing i am the fastest i do too finger only typer i do the same thing just i do the same thing and i am a very fast typer so everybody out there watch it's weird it's like we were meant to do a podcast together you know what you just love when it all comes

together all right so the Ravens are losing Odell Beckham Jr. probably they've got Devin Duvernay who's small Tylan Wallace who's small Zay Flowers who is small Rashad Bateman who is small how big is Bateman he's not small he's big is Bateman? He's not small. He's like 6'1 or 6'2. He's six foot. Really? Yeah. He's one of those guys that I've just always had in my brain

is bigger than what he's listed at. So football reference has him 6'1, 197. That's not small. Zay Flowers is small. Zay Flowers is 5'9", 180. At the Combine, actually, no, this is at the Pro Day. Rashad Bateman was 6'3". Wow.

Pro Football Reference lied to me. They rounded up like we did with Tyree Kill's cap hit. Yeah, what is his hinge profile? That's a good move. I want A.D. Mitchell is it? Hinge profile. That's a good move. I want to eat Mitchell. All right. Take them. I will.

Go ahead. I'm watching me. I want the size. I'll do it. I want it right there. All right. So here we go. This is it.

What a line. I want the size. I want it right there. All right. Log off with your mechanical keyboard. Don't clip that. Here we go mechanical keyboard don't clip that here we go please don't make that the open ryan i am begging you oh that's great i'm gonna delete this part of the episode before you send the files that's that's what a pro does no evidence okay so

here we go the we didn't have a ton of changes really till the very end with jeremiah's mock i think the one change that we had early was bleak neighbors at five romo dunzey at six we had flipped that from what he had yeah we also flipped olivashano and till he's a vuaga um there was a lot of like cornerbacks i think that flipped just because we see the cornerbacks differently differently very differently um but a lot of the rest of the picks man everything kind of stayed the same again when we got towards the end i think a lot of people see the very top of the class pretty similarly but when you get into rankings four five six seven

eight whatever i think that's where you get a lot of variance from analyst to analyst so that's where you start to see a lot of that stuff change. But really, outside of seeing this cornerback class differently, I think that certainly at the very top, we see it very similar to the way that Daniel Jeremiah does, which is good for us because, like I said at the very top, Jeremiah is one of the best in business. So that was good for us. Right.

It's kind of in line with the league and where it's going. And the fun thing about doing an exercise like this is to see how it changes over time. You know, everybody gathers more info. You get more, you naturally get more info from athletic testing.

And right now everybody has the tape and it's, you know, everybody has the same tape, but not everybody has the same info and everybody will have the same athletic testing. So yeah, it's, it'll be fun to watch this evolve.

And I think the purpose of us doing this today, rather than just giving you guys a standard, hey, here's our mock draft, is how somebody else is seeing it, the little things we would do differently, but more importantly, how we might see it the same. Yeah. To try to solve this puzzle that goes on until the end of April.

Yeah, we just thought that this would be a fun way to talk about Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft because just like everybody else out there, we are fans of DJ's. And so when he drops a mock, we're running to it. And, you know, we're thinking about, oh my gosh, he's got this player there, this player there. So I know you guys watched the episode.

We appreciate it and everything, but please go follow DJ, go read his mock draft, go click on it for NFL.com because that means a lot of the people who are covering the NFL draft in this business. So please go do that. DJ is great. We absolutely love him. We had a lot of fun doing this. Let us know what you guys thought of Daniel Jeremiah's picks of our conversations around some of those picks, maybe the picks that we would change. Let us know some of the picks that you would change as well. Best way to do that. YouTube comments, NFL or youtube.com

backslash at NFL stock stock exchange if you are audio only you can still hit us up and get your submissions in at connor j rogers at tampa bay tray on both x and instagram connor and i will be back with you for one more episode i think this week we're gonna do it on wednesday because i'm traveling to the shrine bowl on thursday and then things start to really really pick up so we'll probably give it to you a day earlier this week. Probably be a fixture franchise. I think we owe you guys that last one. We talked about either doing one or two this week with Jeremiah releasing his mock.

We wanted to have fun with that. But we'll give you one more fixture franchise before we get into Shrine and Senior Bowl season, before we get to jump into that. But, Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here? No, fun exercise. If you guys like this, let us know because it won't be the last time we do it, whether it's the next one. You know, Brugler drops.

We've had Dane on the show, obviously. I think we will definitely have to get the bootleg boys in Brett and EJ back on to do a combined pod. That was a great, great show last year. We had so much fun with that. So it's that time of year where it's just collaborating more with the rest of the industry. As Trevor and I put our rankings in the books. Yep.

It is a lot of fun. This time of year is, it's great when, like I said, I think I said this a couple of shows ago. It's so much fun when everybody kind of turns the page. We got four teams left in the NFL postseason now. And everybody else everybody kind of turns the page you know we got four teams left in the nfl postseason now and everybody else kind of turning the page so we're getting to that point where a lot of the a lot of our favorite friends and media members are getting to that point we're gonna be able to have them on the show kind of talk about what they're talking about and all that good stuff but but uh before then we got one more show for you this week coming up on wednesday

i'm trevor sick about that is connor rogers thank you guys so much for watching and listening to the nfl stock exchange podcast see you guys on wednesday Thank you.