NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 230. 2 Round Post Senior Bowl Mock Draft

Episode Date: February 3, 2024

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers open up the PFF Mock Draft Simulator and fire off a brand new TWO ROUND 2024 Mock Draft following Senior Bowl practices. The two combine their picks and analysis with ...everything they saw and heard in both Frisco for the Shrine Bowl and Mobile for the Senior Bowl

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Starting point is 00:00:37 It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers joining you guys where we're actually looking at the camera this time instead of just looking at each other,
Starting point is 00:01:09 because that was the top comment on the last video when we did it in person. They were like, I don't think we've actually seen the side of Connor's head before ever, because he's just always looking straight at the camera. So we are back from Mobile, Alabama. We're back for the Senior bowl and uh we are back with the vengeance as they say because this is the post senior bowl two round mock draft baby we think we can't just do a first round there's gonna be some senior bowl players in the first round that we draft here connor but we had to get the full senior bowl flavor add that second round for the
Starting point is 00:01:43 good people how you doing my? How was travel back? I'm good, man. Listen, I'm excited. You and I get to be home for, you know, it feels like a couple hours. We're going to be doing a podcast in Vegas. So if you want to see that we're not just somebody who's saying that we were AI on the on the other one, I think that was right. The comics were absolutely all world.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I was laughing before we get into the two-round mock draft so as i told the story in the last pod trevor picked me up in the sweet jeep gladiator uh and after lunch after the last practice was nice enough to drop me off to the airport so because i flew out first and on the way we're sitting in a ton of traffic believe it or not mobile that uh airport boulevard a lot of traffic. A lot of traffic. People don't think about it. And I was like, dude, no sweat. I was like, go through this airport every year. There's never anyone there. The security last year, I got to the metal detector and the TSA agent was like, oh, you don't look like a bad
Starting point is 00:02:37 guy. And they just let you through like shoes on. It's like, it's really wild. So we're laughing. I don't think that's how that works actually i don't know if that's the process so i'm real confident going to the filing in the wrong profiling in the wrong way actually 100 please at least stop me and and have yeah you gotta you gotta check everybody that's why you're there so i get to the airport and i it's pretty empty i mean there's no line right it's not like an airport where there's like clear and pre-check and all this, just one line
Starting point is 00:03:08 and there's never really anyone on it, only a handful of people. And I take all my stuff off. I go through the metal detector and I come through it and stand there and I'm like, oh, am I good? He's like, actually, no. And I'm like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:23 So I turn around and they have the screen with the radar it's like a human stick figure and the detector the radar will show a part that pops off when you go through it and right in my crotch is just a giant red like mayday signing so i look at him he looks at me and he's and he just starts going long-winded all the explanation of what he has to do and and it's going on and on and on and i'm finally like dude i was like you have a job do what you have to do like no hard feelings i I was like, but there's nothing in there. Like that's just, that's just my crotch. So he explains it. And you're thinking like, and you don't take your clothes. It wasn't like that.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I stand right there. There's, there's like literally old women going through security, like witnessing the hands going up the jean leg. And this is just going on and on and on and obviously i don't i'm not hiding anything in my pants so then it just stops and he's like okay and i'm like okay and he's like yep and i'm like that's it and he's like yep no explanation nothing not like this is what could happen or what nothing they didn't even tell you why it went off nothing and i've flown a lot since over the last couple years i've gotten
Starting point is 00:04:50 popped for like like my shoulder sometimes they'll get stopped and they'll just it could be like a bunched up sweatshirt or things like that and they always tell you like if you worked out a bunch and it's just like traps oh yeah older shoulders you know what i'm saying yeah it'll always it's like really fast. And they're like, oh, sorry about that. It happens all the time. I'm like, ah, no worries. This was like a long thing.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And I was early for my flight, so I didn't care about that. So I'm like, okay. As soon as I turn around, there's an old woman going through the bags. She's like, whose suitcase is this? And I'm like, that's my suitcase. So I'm sitting there. I'm thinking to myself, I flew out of New York, LaGuardia, same suitcase, same crotch. Did not get stopped.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Did not get stopped. And she's like, is there anything in here that's going to cut me? And I'm like, no, I'm like, just a microphone stand. It's not sharp. Don't worry. The only time I've ever gotten stopped in my suitcase is when I pack our equipment. Right. And that's like maybe once every two years right digs through everything goes through zips it back up and just doesn't say
Starting point is 00:05:52 anything and just puts it down no not even that just stared at me i took my bag and went on my way so all this boasting to you in the car that it'll take 20 seconds turned into the most wild adventure at tsa in Alabama ever. But I'm good. It was a good trip. Everybody's just doing their job. They took it real serious this year. They heard my banter.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Well, the first guy didn't take it serious. We're going to get his ass. It was just like, ah, yeah, yeah, no, you're good. You're good to go. Oh, no, he dug around. Yeah, the first guy didn't. This year, they were not messing around. But they were on it.
Starting point is 00:06:24 They had the system of checks and balances. It's what the country is built on. Right, right. Making sure that you're not sketchy. No, no, and I got through. I had to return the rental car, and it took me literally 20 seconds to get all the way through. So I didn't have the same kind of luck that you did
Starting point is 00:06:41 to have the wonderful interaction you did get through airport security. So, all right, well, you made it, which which is great because we've got an absolute beast of an episode here a lot of people said like oh you know what commented on our senior bowl video because we did it after day two and they're like oh what do you think about this player this player we didn't have time to get to everybody or unload all of our thoughts on players and i figured the ones that y'all really wanted to hear about we'd probably get to in this mock draft. So we're going to fire up the PFF mock draft simulator.
Starting point is 00:07:09 We got it right here. Selecting two rounds. This is going to be fun. Connor, you want to pick for odds or evens? What did we do last time? You'd think I would check this before I don't think I remember. You have not been paying
Starting point is 00:07:26 attention i think i actually did evens i'm almost sure of it uh the jets and the bucks have evens that's why i remember doing evens okay i'll do evens you want to do it's all you okay all right so i'm gonna do odds we're gonna enter the draft here you're gonna do evens just for yeah what did i say you're like i'm gonna do oddss. Just for, yeah, what did I say? You're like, I'm going to do odds. All right, I'm going to, yeah, just absolutely take over. Yeah, I got the draft. Sit aside. Yeah, so you're taking Caleb Williams at one,
Starting point is 00:07:55 and I just clicked Brock Bowers, just, you know, for tradition at this point. Oh, my God. Okay, so you're going to go with the odds. I'm going to go with the evens. Who are you taking in one? I'm going to take Caleb Williams. I know.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Not really a stunner. Not shaking it up. I'm fascinated by all the chatter this week. You know, go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:08:23 What have you been seeing? Because I've been seeing a lot i was just gonna say i didn't hear as much drake may chatter as i thought i was going to no right no that's all i'm gonna say we haven't heard a peep about drake may right i only heard about caleb like like going number one well that and then there's also been a lot of ups and downs of and i don't buy any of it this time. I don't think anybody knows of, you know, will you avoid the Bears?
Starting point is 00:08:51 We did this game with Joe Burrow. People forget this time that year. People were like, oh, could Burrow avoid the Bengals? They're a cheap franchise. Like it was this whole thing and it ended up not being a thing at all. So as it stands right now, I think Caleb Williams is the first overall pick in the draft. And I think that is by the Chicago bears and he ends up, you know, not trying to leverage his way somewhere else or the bears get cute and dance around the draft. And I
Starting point is 00:09:16 don't think they're moving forward with Justin Fields. I will make that clear once again. Uh, so I think Caleb Williams will be the number one overall pick to Chicago. Okay. All right. So we got Caleb Williams going number one. We're not doing trades in this mock draft just so everybody knows. We'll probably have a mock that we do
Starting point is 00:09:32 pre-combine, post-combine, something where we will actually do trades because it becomes more realistic to actually predict that. It's kind of tough
Starting point is 00:09:42 to do that before free agency really begins. And I think mocks with trades are a lot more valuable and a lot better exercise once you have free agency underway. So that's why I just wanted to do a disclaimer for people
Starting point is 00:09:55 not doing trades in this mock. Washington's at number two. Dan Quinn's the head coach. Don't know who the offense coordinator is going to be yet, which, all right. How do you feel about dan quinn being the head coach of washington it's not ben johnson which i think they're pretty pissed
Starting point is 00:10:10 about even though they're going to come out and say like oh he was dan quinn all along all right well if it's dan quinn all along why didn't you sign him the day after the cowboys got out of the playoffs right huh yeah so i'm not buying that. They wanted Ben Johnson. He left him at the altar. They settled for Dan Quinn, but anybody who's listening to this podcast knows I like Dan Quinn a lot. Do you like Dan Quinn in Washington? I do.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I would like to see his staff because I am still operating under the assumption this franchise needs to draft a quarterback at two. And as we've seen, it is vital what your offensive staff looks like uh and that's why i once upon a time was so optimistic about washington because they got adam peters i thought it was a lock they were getting ben johnson and you staple ben johnson do a quarterback at two there's a lot to look forward to now i'm not saying they're doomed dan quinn has had success in this league i'm just
Starting point is 00:11:03 saying that it becomes a little bit more of a windy road yeah i i i can't i can't wait to see who they have their offense coordinator chip kelly i have heard chip kelly that is the name that continuously gets put up at the front of like oh yeah could be chip kelly might be chip kelly and when everybody's the fun one i like yeah it's fun i do like how about the the I want to see Chip back in the NFL the college play caller has kind of been a little bit of a hot thing right now I mean I know Cliff has worked in the NFL but Cliff getting a job being Antonio Pierce's OC yeah and then now we've we've seen a lot of rumors about Grubb going to the Seahawks that would be something.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I wonder, and maybe we talk about this more with the right, you know, we're talking about it now. It's fine. Um, I wonder if the, the cliff pairing with the Raiders was more owner or GM driven than like
Starting point is 00:12:02 Antonio Pierce driven. Cause Antonio Pierce seems, I don't know, a little bit more old school, like a little bit more like run the ball, kind of a balanced offense thing, and Cliff's not really. So I wonder if, because it took them a little while to hire Pierce. So did the higher ups say, Hey, you could be head coach, but almost say we get pick of offensive coordinator. It happens more than people realize. I just wonder if that's going to be a thing, if we're, it's going to come out and, you know, it probably won't come out if
Starting point is 00:12:39 they're having success, but it will come out if they're failing. If that is the truth, I think somebody is going to get to the bottom of it because they're failing, if that is the truth. I think somebody's going to get to the bottom of it because they're going to want to defend one side or the other. So if that is true, I think maybe we find out one day. Anyways, Drake May to the Washington Commanders. This one's not going to be any different for me. I still think that it's going to be one, two, Caleb Williams, Drake May, and the senior bowl did not change that. No, I'm with you all the way. This is how I would have the start of the draft go. Now is where it always gets interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:08 By the way, this is what we think will happen. Correct. 100%. Yes, okay, all right, all right. Just so we're on the same page and so everybody out there is on the same page as well. The Patriots at three, I know there's some talk, hey, they could take Marvin Harrison Jr.,
Starting point is 00:13:23 they could trade this pick. Everybody, I think the biggest senior bowl takeaway I come with rumors wise is that everybody is trying to gauge, is there an entry point into getting a top three quarterback in this draft? And when I say that, I mean, would Chicago, Washington, or New England
Starting point is 00:13:38 pick up the phone for the large amount of teams that are on the outside looking in that want a quarterback in this draft and that was a big thing everybody was trying to figure out in mobile teams included i'm saying they're trying to figure that out i'm operating under the assumption that new england as much as the foundation is very poor right now and bare bones they don't have any skill talent really a lot of skill talent they don't have a great offensive line i think they still have to take a quarterback here trevor at three or i think they i think they will take a quarterback here at
Starting point is 00:14:09 three i think this is where the debate gets interesting because they can take a godfather offer from a team that wants to come into this pick to take jayden daniels who you see on the screen right now the godfather offer they could honestly get the best player in the draft and marvin harrison jr which is a need but But I'm going to go Jaden Daniels here. I think New England, they just hit the reset at quarterback with a new coach and really a new everything. Yeah. If Jaden's in this conversation as a top five pick, it is hard to picture the Patriots going a different direction. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:43 For as good as Marvin Harrison Jr. is, it's hard to see them not doing this. If he wasn't in the conversation, I think it'd be a little different. Like if Jaden was viewed as even like a mid first round pick, and you're talking about the wide receiver, but anything close to a top five pick, that's close enough.
Starting point is 00:15:01 You're taking Jaden Daniels. So I agree with you. Arizona Cardinals. Number four, easy. pick that's close enough you're taking jayden daniel so i agree with you um arizona cardinals number four easy this one is going to be marvin harrison jr he's the best offensive player in this draft and there's a lot of hype for some of the other guys that we've talked about more recently these senior world players you know like oh like do you maybe go with an offensive tackle you know we just redid the Cardinals' fixture franchise. We talked about how DJ Humphreys,
Starting point is 00:15:28 tearing his ACL, is he going to be back? Are you going to have a hole-it-right tackle? Do you want to fill that at four? I just don't think they're going to pass up the best offensive player in the draft, the nearest junior. I'm sticking with the chalk, and I'm going Maserati Marv here.
Starting point is 00:15:43 All right. I don't think any big surprises here it will start to get interesting it probably does now with the chargers at five who jimmy jimmy they could the helm baby yeah they could that's right he's been on a wild media tour of course yeah yeah i mean he has to be on brand it It's excellent. I'm going to go. I think Brock Bowers is in play here. I really do. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah, I'm torn between him, neighbors and a dunes, all being options in this spot. Man, it's crazy. Bowers was that guy that for so long we were like, we love him. He's so good, but we can never find a spot for him in the top 10. And now it feels like it's starting to skewer the league. Just like this guy is so good. He's going to go. Just accept it.
Starting point is 00:16:32 He is going to go. So I'm going to go with Brock Bowers in this spot at five. Now, once again, I'll be I'll caveat. This one's a little more wide open on offense. I think they could take neighbors. I think they could take a dunes. They could take a tackle. I don't think that's as likely,
Starting point is 00:16:48 but Bowers is seen as an absolute game changing offensive threat. Chargers fans aren't going to be happy with it. They get mad every time we do this pick. And I, but I get, yeah, I'm with you. I think this is going to be on the table.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It's on a table. Might is going to be on the table. It's on the table. Might be the main course on the table. Draft night, Flamin' Yawn. Jimmy likes to fillet Mignon. Jimmy likes to play that heavy personnel, man. Right. You go back to the San Francisco 49ers days. I know it's a different age of football.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's 10 years ago. But the Vernon Davis usageers days. I know it's a different age of football. It's 10 years ago, but like the Vernon Davis usage, like, I don't know. I think he sees this guy as, as a true chess piece. And I agree with you. I think that I would be going Brock Bowers as well.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Six of the New York giants. So we've got Malik neighbors on the board, Roma Dunzay on the board, any offensive tackles on the board. And from what we were hearing in mobile, I think it could be any of quarterback, if Daniels makes it, Jaden Daniels makes it, one of the top wide receivers, or even one of the top offensive tackles. For as much as I've read the quotes on Joe Shane saying that they're not giving
Starting point is 00:18:02 up on Evan Neal, there's a difference between not giving up on Evan Neal and having the opportunity to take offensive tackle number one at sixth overall and potentially move Neal inside and have one hell of an offensive line. Because as long as Neal would be, I mean, I don't think any tackle is like cool with kicking inside a guard, especially one who's as young and as talented and as picked as high as Neal was. But I think the way that you, that you spin it to Neil is like, Hey,
Starting point is 00:18:27 it, we're going to draft this guy and we're going to create one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. And you're going to be a part of it. When you, when you hit free agency, if you hit free agency, whatever,
Starting point is 00:18:36 like you'll have the opportunity to cash out. And so maybe that's how you motivate them along the way. I know that kind of like shoots you in the foot a little bit. Cause you'll probably look to go be a tackle somewhere else. But if you move him anyways, he's going to go look to be a tackle somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Maybe you trade value for him if you want to move on from then. I think there's a lot of things that are on the table with offense attack for the Giants, but I do think
Starting point is 00:18:57 all of those positions are there. I am going to switch it up. I think we often go Malik Nabors as the second wide receiver off the board. Since summer to the Giants, it feels like at times. I feel like a lot more people are talking about Romo Odunze than Malik Neighbors.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And I don't think that means Neighbors is going to have this massive drop or anything. You just hear a different kind of enthusiasm for the year that Odunze had and the type of receiver that he is at his size so I'm actually gonna go Odunze here at number six even with Malik on the board I agree with you and I don't agree with the league's take on this I am much higher on neighbors I think he's man he's in any class he'd be the number one guy it's just Marv's in any class. He'd be the number one guy. It's just Marv's in this class. But yeah, Dunzey is highly, highly thought of. And I do think there's something to the Giants, especially that it's the Darren Waller situation has not really worked out. The Giants do need size at the position. They do like they need a six foot three perimeter target.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So maybe that'll play into their minds as well with that pick seven the titans i mean they're sitting here and they're just like wow you love to see it we'll take joe alt at seven as we try to really get this offensive line right this is an easy one for me and man if you're a titans fan right now and you're you know thinking of developing this offensive line and Bill Callahan comes over to work for his son, Bill Callahan, one of the best offensive line coaches of this last two decades, you feel really confident in this selection and the development of this selection. And a guy in Joe Alt, it's already great, but he'll just become that much better. Yeah. Yeah. Bill Callahan going over there, It's makes the world of a difference, I think.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And, you know. He's going to be in that room with his son's ear. And, you know, of course, with ran to. Yeah. And he's going to be like, I watched the tape. This line was certified cheeks. So go get me an absolute destroyer. Play him next to Skowronski.
Starting point is 00:21:10 They could run the ball again. Falcons are on the clock here at number eight. Do we want to do the fields trade? It's a classic. It is a classic. Well, let's assume the Falcons get a quarterback in the mold of fields, cousins, a legit starting quarterback. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Oh, you're saying to actually have the pick in the second round. Correct. Yeah, my IQ obviously was not too bright in that response. We said that we weren't going to do trades, but... Right. If it's a pro player, it's not to go up for a prospect. It's a little different. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:44 We'll just leave it and leave it as is the falcons a drag like they're gonna be aggressive though like this is a team that i think could even trade up try to trade up once again now who's coming out of their pick not right right that's the part that's tough and you're're probably going to trade. Well, maybe you don't trade for fields until draft night. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, it kind of shows your hand.
Starting point is 00:22:17 You got to do something. It feels like Atlanta will be aggressive in the pro market. I don't know if they can afford to go into this draft and say, hey, maybe we'll be able to get up. That's a scary situation. Unless they fall in love with Pennix, Nix, or McCarthy, I'm just throwing it out there. I don't think they ultimately will, but I'm just throwing it out there.
Starting point is 00:22:41 So Raheem Morris is the head coach. We got Zach Robinson as the offensive coordinator. Right. I do like that combo. I think Raheem's going to want a defensive guy, right? I think he's going to want an edge rusher. Yeah, they need an edge rusher. We say that every year, but we mean it.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yeah, no, we really mean it. We really mean it this time, guys. We're being serious this time. I mean, Malik Nabors would actually be sick. That'd be so sick. I don't think they're going to do it. No, I think they're going to go with the pass rusher.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I don't know between Dallas Turner and Jared verse. Well, the best part is we do 900 of these going up to the draft so we could just go back and forth each time, but it is serious conversation. I would think verse. I actually am also leaning verse i would i
Starting point is 00:23:27 number one i and i don't know i don't want to say i don't know if this is true i had heard some rumblings that they were one of a handful of teams that was excited about the idea of him being in last year's draft and then he went back to school like when verse had that monster year, there were a ton of teams that were, you know, evaluating him like, whoa, this dude is going to go way higher than we thought. And I heard Atlanta was in that big group of teams.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So that doesn't, I'm not saying that means a ton, but it just goes to show you. They know this need and they know a lot about this player. And we talked about how high we thought of verse last year, right? I man should be a las vegas raider you know like he should be opposite max crosby which would have been which would have been awesome because when i interviewed jared verse he watched max crosby which by the way i talked to laia to latu at the senior bowl as well if anybody caught the nfl network clip that was it was pretty funny. A lot of hands talking going
Starting point is 00:24:26 on. But I also asked Latu because this is a dude that's got a super deep pass rush bag. And I said, okay, very clearly you watch a lot of guys. And he smiled and he's like, yeah. And I was like, who do you watch the most of? Max Crosby, TJ Watt. I swear to you, all of these
Starting point is 00:24:42 dudes watch Max Crosby. They do. All of them. They watch Max Crosby. I've heard Max Crosby's name more than Nick Bosa, more than Miles Garrett, more than Micah Parsons, more than Von Miller. Like, I've heard Micah Parsons' name, or sorry, I've heard Max Crosby's name more than anybody when I ask these prospects who they watch.
Starting point is 00:25:03 But, yeah, I mean, that's a nice little tidbit there. I'll go verse. I'll go verse here at eight. I think it's close. And I also wonder if they do want that heavy-handed power defensive end, like somebody who, yeah, I love Dallas Turner and what he can do as a pass rusher, but damn, verse can get after
Starting point is 00:25:20 it too. And I think Raheem Morris is really going to like that smash mouth style that he's got. So we'll go Jared verse here at number eight all right nine the bears who we had take caleb first overall i'm gonna go no not not we you did don't don't throw me into that when bears fans yell at this pod they're yelling at you he does not want to be associated with caleb williams that's interesting okay fair enough i'll take all the credit. I masterminded the first overall selection and took Caleb Williams. I out-thought the entire football world.
Starting point is 00:25:50 You did. And I will do that once again by taking Malik Neighbors at nine. Oh, I didn't even think about this. This is, wow. I mean, him and DJ Moore with Caleb Williams, this is a dangerous, dangerous offense.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You have Shane Waldron, who did a great job utilizing Lockett and Metcalf and neighbors and more. Their skill sets actually are a little similar, but they're both such good players. You don't really care about that. So that's an explosive offense. Jets at 10. Man, welcome to the Thunderdome for you.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So I still think I still think it's got to be offensive tackle. Right, good start. Yeah, so I still think it's got to be tight end. Speaking of lines that are certified cheeks, the Jets and the Titans, they get breakfast together every day talking about it. Speaking of which, Hilton Homewood, fantastic continental breakfast all week. I like that they change up the breakfast meats. They did.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah, it was a nice touch. Dude, it was sausage links this morning. You missed out. Oh, they had that day one and it was phenomenal. No, no, no. Wait, links? Yeah, yeah, yeah, like links. Wow, they're deep in their bag.
Starting point is 00:26:56 They're like the layoutu-latu of continental breakfast. Continental breakfast. It's amazing. Shout out to Hilton Homewood Sweets. All right, people in the comments, let us know what is the best part about a continental breakfast it's amazing shout out to hilton homewood sweets all right uh people in the comments let us know what is the best part about a continental breakfast like what's the best food item that could be out there what's your go-to what do you load up on what do you go for a second plate for what do you throw in the backpack for the day there's always a lot of sausage slings
Starting point is 00:27:20 oh man he's just bare why do Why does your laptop smell like sausage slings? You sicko. Okay, so the Jets at 10. I think I'm leaning on Luvushano here. I like where you're thinking. Even with, so I thought Talize Fuaga at the Senior Bowl had some really nice reps. One with power a good amount.
Starting point is 00:27:44 He could get to the landmarks decently quickly, but you could tell after going away, especially watching some of the All-22 from him, you can tell that just because he could make it to his landmarks on some faraway kick slides, he didn't have great balance if it was really stretching him far from his stance like far from the line of scrimmage so there were a couple of times when guys would kind of notice that and even be able to beat him with power which does not often happen with him just because he was
Starting point is 00:28:17 still a little off balance he wasn't ready he wasn't ready to anchor so we saw a little bit of that and some of the limitations of why people think he might be a better guard than a better offensive tackle i still think that you start him at offensive tackle. No question about it. I still think he's a first round player, but I am going to go with Olu Fasciano here just because I've never really been worried about the pass rush movement or sorry, the pass protection movement with him. And I think that's where the Jets are going to land. I love it. This would be a home run for the Jets if Olu falls to them at 10. They need a top-tier pass protector with good feet that can mirror pass rushers on an island for Aaron Rodgers. And that's the guy.
Starting point is 00:28:52 So I'm a really big fan of this scenario and the Jets making the right pick. 11, the Vikings. This is one that is where it starts to get interesting. This run of the Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders. I think all three teams are very interested in quarterbacks. I think that the question is, will they grade the guys outside the top three high enough to take them? I feel like no.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I feel like I lean no at the moment. After this week, I lean no. I do think there is one for i think denver is the one of the three that sean payton would be like f this this is my guy sure it's gonna work i could see it yeah i could see that so for the vikings here who quite a bit of quite a bit of needs in this spot um quite a bit of needs in this spot. Quite a bit of needs. Can you scroll up a little bit? So needy.
Starting point is 00:29:52 On the players? Yes. There we go. Man. Cooper to Jay. Yeah, but once again, I don't know if Cooper's going to go in the top 15. Jackson Powers Johnson at 11. Man, what a week he had. He will come off the board in this draft oh I mean yeah soon yes that is for sure man I'm
Starting point is 00:30:13 tempted to take Terry on Arnold in this spot oh you think he's gonna be cb1 I think he's in contention you know who's in contention Queen. Yeah, I've got him a little bit lower. Yeah, he won't. He's corner one for me, but absolutely in contention. Yeah, I do think that he raised his stock to that conversation this week. Yeah, so I don't know if I don't feel like they could use if they're going to go corner. I was I feel like they could use a front seven player as well. Yeah. The Vikings are going to be a lot easier to evaluate after free agency because if they do really bring Kirk Cousins back,
Starting point is 00:30:55 it becomes a little bit more cut and dried. As it stands right now, everybody's going to be wondering what happens if they don't. They need pass rusher. They do. I was just looking at their roster, and it really hits you. I feel like they don't they need pass rusher they do i was just looking at their roster and it really hits you i feel like they'd go turner turner is is going to be the pick here i think lots who deserves to be in consideration but with the kind of athlete turner is and the different ways you could use him in this defense i'm gonna go with turner yeah this is gonna be
Starting point is 00:31:21 fascinating because i saw Kevin O'Connell and Kwestia Adafo-Mensah on the sideline. They were grinding. Shout out to them. They were. They were on the sidelines. They were grinding. And they got to see Latu up close and personal this past week. And if they're in this situation and they're having this debate, and if they end up going with with Turner that will be a valuable thing to remember about this regime moving forward leaning towards more athletic traits because like I've said this before on this podcast and I'm just prepping people for it Latu's not gonna test like an elite athlete he's not you know I hope he tests like an average athlete to be honest with you because with you, because you see a little bit of that on tape.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I've talked to some people at UCLA, and that might be the case with him. I was chatting with him a little bit about combine training, things like that. So I don't think it's going to be elite athleticism, but it don't matter, man. I mean, you cannot knock the production that this guy has. So depending on where they go between these two guys, if it's a debate, that'll be valuable for us moving forward. So are you going to go Turner? I am going to go turner i took a long road to get there that was a tough one you know god bless the broken road brings you back to you it's all about dallas turner people
Starting point is 00:32:35 don't people don't realize that that song was actually written about dallas turner going to the minnesota vikings denver broncos at 12. so you set me up here. So that Sean Payton could just totally throw a wrench in things with the quarterback. I wasn't even thinking quarterback. I wasn't even thinking quarterback yet. But who's going to be their quarterback then? They can't wait
Starting point is 00:32:58 to get rid of Russ. I know. Kirk? I mean, I guess all that Russ dead money and then they're going to go pay Kirk 45. No. Kirk? Eh. I mean, I guess like- They're going to have all that rusted money, and then they're going to go pay Kirk 45? Yeah. First team with-
Starting point is 00:33:13 Do they not have a second round pick? I don't think they even have a second round pick. Wow. Yeah, this is our only selection for the Denver Broncos here. I think Sean Payton's going to take a quarterback. It's just a matter of who. Well, he might have to. He might have to. He might have to.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I think Knicks is going to be regarded higher than Pennix. Although, to clarify what I had said on the Wednesday show, because a couple people pointed this out. I guess this is just how it happened. As I was watching practice, I saw a lot of really nice Knicks throws. Then I went back and I watched some of the all 22 from practice and yeah you see him playing tight and that was that was kind of like my reaction it's a little uncomfortable at times he just wasn't playing loose like you tell like some of those under the the people who are getting
Starting point is 00:33:58 on him about like there was one rep where he had what looked like an egregious underthrow i think he very clearly either did not have grip on the ball or the wide receiver just ran the route that he didn't think that he was going to run. And you got to remember, it's an all-star practice. I'm not trying to make excuses for the guy, but you're getting dropped into an environment where you're playing with wide receivers and playing in a playbook with an offense that is all brand new to you. So for the people who are going after Bo for that one miss that was kind of a greasy, it's just like, okay, do you think his arm strength is that bad? Because if you don't, then you're just kind of like knocking a guy for not knowing the route that his wide receiver was going to run. So I think that that was kind of silly, but he was definitely playing tight and not, he
Starting point is 00:34:43 did not have the accuracy consistently that I had kind of seen from him on certain reps through the first two days. I thought day three was better. I thought he had a really nice throw under pressure, which just was a beautiful ball to the running back of the tight end who was coming over the middle of the field, perfectly in stride in the red zone drill. That was beautiful. He also had a shot to the corner of the end zone that was great, but Penix did as well. So I thought both those guys were okay. Penix probably had the overall better week. Bows was not great at the beginning, but I think ended a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:35:11 So I just wanted to clarify that because we talked about it on Wednesday's show. But I do feel like the NFL is higher on Knicks. So if we're going to quarterback here, it's a predictive mock. I'm going to go bow Knicks. I'm going to take him at 12. So Sean Payton gets his quarterback. The Raiders on the clock. We talked about how they
Starting point is 00:35:36 hire Cliff Kingsbury. They obviously stuck with Antonio Pierce. I think this is another team that's going to look heavily into this quarterback class. And I'm going to look heavily into this quarterback class. I'm going to go with Michael Penix in this spot. So you do think he goes this high? At the end of the day, I think he goes top 20.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Okay. I think another spot that interests me, if Grubb gets that job in Seattle, I wouldn't write off Seattle at 16. Oh. At 16. Sure.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Geno has one more year left on his deal. New staff. Yeah, and what did I see about the Saints committing to Derek Carr for the next two years? Oh, did that come out? I mean, we kind of said on the pod, they made their bed with that deal. Quick Google. Quick Google here. I'll do, I'll do Twitter.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. Roto world. Restructuring Derek Carr's contract. Oh, so they can get a crap ton of salary cap space. I mean, there's the salary cap goats and not a great way. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Saints to make two-year commitment to Derek Carr. Yeah, what are they saying here? Who do we got here? They're expected to restructure his contract. Okay. So then, yeah, they'll move the money around. They'll make it basically impossible for them to get rid of him for the next two years. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:03 So they can clear salary cap space. Kind of nightmare fuel, but... Oh, yeah. He's going to do that. Okay. All right. Yeah, they can convert all but the vet minimum to a signing bonus to get his cap hit down.
Starting point is 00:37:16 This is from NOLA.com. Did a great job with this. Get his cap hit down to 14.2. It'll clear 21 million more in salary cap space. But obviously, there's consequences to all actions, folks. That means Derek Carr could be around for a long time. Anyways, the Raiders. I don't know if it'll be Pennix.
Starting point is 00:37:37 I feel like this is a team that, like many of these teams, it makes sense to be aggressive to get a quarterback. And see what you could do with development. Yes. Aiden O'Connell is there, but more importantly, see what you could do with development with this new era from their coaching staff that,
Starting point is 00:37:56 and Tom Telesco as well. Telesco is a guy that's fallen in love with a PAC 12 quarterback with a big arm before. I'm not calling Michael Penix, Justin Herbert, but you know, with a Pac-12 quarterback with a big arm before. I'm not calling Michael Penix Justin Herbert, but Telesco values traits and guys that can make big throws. So I just wouldn't be shocked. I'm going to go with Penix at 13.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Okay. It's kind of funny that Bo and Penix go back to back. These guys just can't get away from each other. No, they can't. Any aspect of life. I kind of felt like we were going to have these players a little bit lower just given the fact that none of them grabbed the QB1 title from this past week by the horns.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Right. I thought so too, but then you get to the end of round one, and you're like, there's not a lot of landing spots that make too much sense. And I just don't think either of these guys are falling out of round one. I don't. Yeah. I think we're getting six quarterbacks in the first round this year. Six?
Starting point is 00:38:46 I think McCarthy's going to go in the first round. I don't love it. You can pick him in the first round. I won't. I don't have a selection. You're making me do it to make you look right? Yeah. All right, we'll see, folks.
Starting point is 00:39:05 We'll see if that actually happens. Am I going to hang Connor out the drive? No, there's no trade. There's no trade to this podcast. Do it in the next episode of Dragon Ball Z. All right. So the New Orleans Saints at 14. I guess no quarterback.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So offensive tackle is still big for them. Yeah. Pete's a pending free agent. He is. That's a big one on the market. Yeah, Trevor Penning. Big fella will get paid. Not great.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I wonder if they really move on from Trevor Penning while the current kind of regime is still there. Or do you just go into camp and give him a shot? Say your Hail Marys and your Our Fathers. You can't do that, though. I agree. Oh, man. Yeah, I think tackle. Yeah, I mean, it's probably Fuaga, right?
Starting point is 00:39:53 Because you're basically you're basically replacing Pete as a. Player who can play tackle or guard and you start at either. Basically, wherever you need to play Trevor Penning, you can play him and you can play Fuaga at the other spot. Right. But is Ramchick going to be their right tackle? Yeah. And do you have confidence that Fuaga could play left tackle?
Starting point is 00:40:20 I like Fuaga a lot. I don't see him as a left tackle. Who else is gonna play like the next three offensive linemen are right tackles now right i think ultimately mims well i mean even even even the next four like even if you're getting into this they're all right tackle no it's a weird yeah it's a weird spot you got to get to Kingsley or Patrick Paul before you really... That's early for them. Yeah. Okay. I think you just take Fuaga.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Because I don't... They took Brzee last year. Yep. They could take Latu, I suppose. They could. But he's not really their type at all. No. I don't think we've had that pick happen yet. I don't think he's their type of type at all. No. I don't think we've had that pick happen yet.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I don't think he's their type of player at all. I think you're on it. I'm going to go Fuaga. Okay. Fuaga at 14. Play wherever Trevor Penning's not. Colts at 15. I'm pretty confident they'll franchise.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Find a way with Michael Pittman. Okay. I don't see that him getting away from them. So, and I'm not saying they don't need another wide receiver, but they, they're not dying at wide receiver. This line was a lot better this year after it was a disaster in 2022.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I think Bernard Raymond's taking some really nice steps. Ultimately, I would go, I think, corner here. And I know they've taken flyers on corner, like Juju Brents and Jalen Jones, but I think they need another outside corner. So I'm going to go Terry on Arnold in this spot. Okay. All right. So CB1 still. It right so cb1 still it's a very
Starting point is 00:42:06 ballard it's a very ballard pick ballard's sec roots oh is he like he i think he came up as the sec scout i'm pretty sure i have that right and heavy on all right now actually that you mentioned this i'm gonna look when has he been heavy has he been heavy on? All right. Now, actually, that you mentioned this, I'm going to look. Has he been heavy on the SEC? Obviously, Anthony Richardson. They drafted Darius Rush last year as well. Jalen Jones is from A&M. Those are later round picks. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Didn't have an SEC pick in 2022. Uh, Vandy, Florida in 2021 with Odie Ingbo and Sean Davis. Nothing in 2022. When he, when did he start there? He's been there a while. Yeah. I feel like since 17, right? Shoot, yeah, a while. Yeah, really long time. Oh, I think early on he might have been SEC. Oh, yeah, okay. Well, Alabama in 2016, Quincy Wilson in 2017 in the second round.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Anyways, you know, I don't think it's like SEC or bus. No. I mean, it's good background information. I wondered if that would... Yeah, he was an area scout for the Bears, I think, for 10 years. And I think a lot of his responsibility was in the SEC. Was the Southwest. Yeah. Pick 16, Seattle Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Easiest pick ever after this week? Jackson Powers Johnson, right? It's pretty awesome. Easiest pick ever after this week. I mean, interior offensive line of the Seattle Seahawks is a major need. Damian Lewis, Evan Brown, Phil Haynes, they are all unrestricted free agents. There's a lot of young guys that would have to step up. They've got Oluwatimi that they drafted from last year
Starting point is 00:44:00 who could play one of the interior offensive line spots, but I think you get a centerpiece of your offensive line in Jackson Powers Johnson. So you keep him there, low moving costs. Talk about that on this pod. Nobody else wants to. It's a thing, people. And Powers Johnson was just truly one of the best,
Starting point is 00:44:19 if not the best, prospect that we saw in Mobile this past weekend. Day one and day two domination. Didn't even play the third day. Didn need to did not need to so yeah we're going uh we're going jpj here at 16 jacksonville they have a fascinating free agency period they got to find a contract for josh allen their pass rusher they could lose calvin ridley you've got a franchise tag game right you probably have to you You probably have to. You can't let him leave. You can't let him leave. And Josh Allen truly has all the leverage you could ever have for a defense event. All the leverage.
Starting point is 00:44:52 It's not cheap, but it might be the route they have to go. If not, you're paying this guy like what? 30 mil a year. He's basically coming to the table like, yeah, give me 30 mil a year. And what did the Jags say? No. Right. They can't. They can't they can't
Starting point is 00:45:05 lose actually no thanks go find that somewhere else and he'd be like bet i will man what a time to have a great year right 17 and a half sacks yeah you you're basically your franchise tagging him hoping that he plays well for you but maybe not that i don't know i don't you you obviously want him to continue to play well but shit man 17 and a half sacks i mean he's got like i said all the leverage in the world yeah yeah i think you gotta at least franchise tag him once and i think that's why they could lose calvin ridley in free agency and why i'm looking wide receiver in this spot for jacksonville you got to keep the weapons around trevor lawrence i'm gonna go brian thomas in this spot for Jacksonville. You got to keep the weapons around Trevor Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I'm going to go Brian Thomas in this spot. Trevor, get a real vertical threat. I'm a big fan. Yes, there's other needs. I think their line needs to get better. Obviously, I guess you could look at the secondary, but I think after free agency, there'll be a wide receiver heavy team.
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Starting point is 00:46:59 states. Price is subject to underwriting and health questions. Man, Cincinnati. Interesting spot here because the offensive tackle could certainly be on the table for them. Tight end would be as well, but Brock Bowers, he's not making it to 18. I think they lose Jonah Williams in free agency. I think they also lose Jonah Williams. So you definitely are looking at offensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:47:24 We've got some good ones. We've got JC Latham. I wonder if Tyler Guyton has made the jump already to this title. So you take that guy, kind of develop him as an athlete, and he played really well at the Senior Bowl, even with some hints that he still needs work when it comes to the technique, the hand placement, just locking onto those blocks. I think that he's still in consideration here. And then DT1, whoever it's going to be,
Starting point is 00:47:51 maybe they lose DJ Reader. Maybe they don't. I don't think that's a sure thing that they're going to lose him. But you could draft a Byron Murphy and you could draft a Jerzon Newton. These guys are both here. Ultimately though, it is Joe Burrow and he is the most important part of this franchise. So, I'm still gonna go with JC Latham, the offensive tackle from Alabama. Okay. I think he's better. I do. Um I like this tape better Okay. I think he's better. I do. I like this tape better. I think he's a really, really good,
Starting point is 00:48:28 good player. Move super well for 360 pounds. He's very talented and he deserves to be a top 20 pick. So I'm going to go lay them here to play right tackle for the Bengals. All right. The Rams are on the clock at 19. This is pretty easy for me. I it's actually, I shouldn't say easy because they
Starting point is 00:48:46 really need secondary help they do they do need a corner but i'm gonna take layout to latu in this spot and beef up the pass rush moving costs low moving cost moving cost pick low moving cost latu stays in la he had a great week he had a great week he He had a great week. He just seems, I know you talked to him for a while. Seems like a great dude. Very into, obsessed with the game. Incredible pass rush ability. The rare college pass rusher that has legitimate pro counter ability. He can get himself unblocked in 90 million different ways. Latu to the Rams, who very well could be a top eight player
Starting point is 00:49:23 to come out of this draft when all is said and done. Yeah. When I talked to Latu, I don't think the medicals are going to be an issue for him. A lot of people bring that up, but I don't think the medicals are going to be an issue for him. And when I was talking to him, dude just loves the game, loves being a pass rusher, loves the art of pass rushing, what it takes to be great. And even with some lower athletic tests that we might see from him at the combine, the tape doesn't lie, if you will. And he had reps where, okay, he lost originally with athleticism. And then he had the handwork and the counters and the muscle memory to be able to just whip right by some of these guys anyways. So that's somebody, to me, that you take in the top 20. It's too valuable.
Starting point is 00:50:08 We get the Steelers on the clock at number 20 here. I think corner is probably what we've got to go with here. Cooper Dejean is still here. And I think you and I really like Cooper Dejean. We had him as a CB1 in this class. Do you think Quinion goes above DeGene? I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:50:32 It's not what I would do, but Quinion had a statement week. So it's probably him. That makes a lot of sense. Kool-Aid, they all make sense. I mean, the Steelers need corner help. And these guys are worthy of being mid-first round picks. I think it's...
Starting point is 00:50:48 I think... I think Quinan... I think Quinan is really trending that way. He could be CB1 in this draft. He very well could be. All right, let's do it. We'll go Quinan Mitchell at 20 for the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Dolphins at 21.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I think this is a team that it's a weird one, right? Because you feel good about Armstead and Austin Jackson finally looked like the player they thought they were getting this year. Their entire interior offensive line is free agents for the most part. I'm going to go with Troy Fountain out here. And you take him. He could be a guard as a rookie. But if you eventually move on from Armstead, because he's just going to get old or injured with a contract,
Starting point is 00:51:39 whatever it is, a year or two down the road, Fountain could also be your left tackle. All right. You know they love to run the hell out of the ball. That dude is a game changer in the run game. All right, so we're going foul now at 21. Eagles up at 22. Oh, where did I read that Lane Johnson was talking about Tyler Guyton?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Interesting. That old OU connection? Yeah. Because Lane Johnson... Let's see. What's his contract? He's still under contract for the next couple of years. But man, he's 34 this upcoming year. They're not going to move on from him.
Starting point is 00:52:25 They'd like to get the next guy in a year early though. They do. That's their thing. That's how he's thing, which I respect the hell out of. It's very wise with offensive line and it's trench play, right? Like they developed my Lada. They wanted to develop Dickerson and Juergens. It's just what they do.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, Jeff McLean had this. Oklahoma's Tyler Guyton has a potential mentor in Lane Johnson as heir apparent with the Eagles. Oh, I think that Lane said this. He's like, I told Stout, which is Stoutland,
Starting point is 00:53:04 their offensive line coach, if y'all pick somebody, I think Tyler would make sense. Kelsey worked with them to pick Juergens. Wouldn't be the first time they worked with their offensive lineman to draft offensive
Starting point is 00:53:20 lineman. Let's do it. I don't think this is far-fetched at all. Like you mentioned, I tell how he likes to look ahead. I think, I think Guyton is a lock for the first round. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I agree too. His play was too good this past weekend. The Texans. I'm going to take Johnny Newton in this spot. Okay. But you know what? I'll say this with Murphy. That scheme really lets guys pin their
Starting point is 00:53:46 ears back and go. Sheldon Rankin's had a great year rushing the passer. And it's no coincidence. Rankin's goes from Salah's scheme where he was really good to Miko's scheme. Obviously very similar. They came from San Francisco. So there is an intrigue for me here with Murphy, but I'm still really high on Newton. And I think the Texans need that beef and a guy that can constantly get off blocks in the interior. The hand fighting is just so beautiful. He's with your son.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Yes. And I think he's an underrated pass rusher because of the defense he played in. That's fair. I can see that. Cowboys are up at 24. Hmm. Can you draft a head coach?
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yikes. Sorry. Yikes. D-line? O-line? Let's look at the depth chart here for him. Biotis is a free agent. Tyron Smith's a free agent. There's no way he goes free agent.
Starting point is 00:54:47 No. It feels so, I mean, obviously, though, he's not going to play forever. Right. I don't think Terrence Steele really had a great season. I feel like they're a lock to take whatever right tackle falls to them. Yeah. They probably would love Guyton. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:55:03 They probably would love Guyton. That's they probably they probably would love that's their that's their kind of guy built like Tyron Smith will coach him up which makes you think we just described the next guy up in Mims Mims is still here I do agree I feel like you might be able to play Mims at right tackle and then when Tyron Smith retires, maybe you flip him over or maybe you just draft and bring in a different guy anyways. Yep. Yeah, let's go Mims. Let's go Mims here. Did you hear my voice crack there? Jeez. It's okay. Lord, what am I, junior
Starting point is 00:55:36 high? You're growing up. Shout out to everybody in junior high. I have it before our eyes. The young draft analyst watching the podcast. Alright. Packers are 25. Very easy. Cooper Dijon, great fit. Can handle a lot of different responsibilities in the back end.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Oh, yeah. In their new defense. Yeah, no Jumper anymore. So, yeah. Cooper Dijon, I mean, I think he could be a big nickel for you. I think he could survive it outside corner. He could play safety. Ball hawking skills, great tackler.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Love this fit for Green Bay. Bucks are 26. it outside corner you can play safety ball hawking skills great tackler love this fit for green bay bucks of 26 all right wow that's the most disappointing all right i've ever heard in my life you looked at the board and you're like well it's like it was like uh the hangover yeah we fucked up so i think first round you never want to kind of pigeonhole yourself into you know a singular pick or a singular position but it's got to be corner pass archer for this team um and you've got carl davis they have jamel dean i think just that unit as a whole is just so very up and down if there's the right corner there and I think Nate Wiggins would be
Starting point is 00:56:51 the right corner I just wonder if they're gonna take a corner round one I feel like it's got to be a somewhat of a priority for them but are you gonna do that in round one when you have Carlton Davis and Jamel Dean? I don't know. I'm a little hesitant there, even with Wiggins and McKinstry on the board. Right, capitalize on the depth of the corner class. I like Braylon Trice, but... You know, I like Braylon Trice and I like Chris Braswell. But my issue is...
Starting point is 00:57:23 You kind of already have that guy with Yaya Diaby and you have a really good athlete, powerful dude who isn't necessarily a great, doesn't have a lot of pass rush plan, you do. Like maybe it makes sense for them. I think I'm, I'm leaning that direction anyways, but I'm just a little, I'm a little hesitant for those reasons. I get it. I don't, I don't think they go anywhere else though. Like,
Starting point is 00:57:57 I don't know if there's another offensive, like Jackson Powers Johnson being gone. I don't think they're going to be tempted by any offensive lineman anymore. Not in the first round. Is a sneaky one after this week, Darius Robinson from Missouri. He's getting a lot of first round chatter right now.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah, I suppose. We're not that high on him. I'm just not that high. I don't think he's a first round player. I think he had a really nice week and there's a lot to like, but I think maybe that might be a sneak. I wonder if people thought that Braswell was a first-round player
Starting point is 00:58:29 after this week. Yeah, I wanted a little more, but I like the tape. I guess I'm going to go Trice here. Trice is a good player. You just need more of a pass. You just need more pass rushers.
Starting point is 00:58:45 You really do. And he led the country in pressures this year. So no matter how he got it, I think he's a really good football player. Motor runs hot at all times. Not afraid of physicality. Never going to back down. And a young defensive line of Vitavea, Clyde Jekansi. Diaby.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Braylon Trice, Y, Diaby, Braylon, Trice, yeah, Diaby, whatever. Go try and show you. I think it might be for you. I think that's good enough.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Anticipating that Shaq Barrett might be out or he's not going to be what he once was a sack master for you. So I guess I'll go Braylon Trice here. The Cardinals picking again at 27. I'm going to go with Nate Wiggins here. So they get Marvin Harrison jr. with their top 10 pick, and they get a corner that is a good athlete. He could play in zone.
Starting point is 00:59:32 He's got ball skills. He's got great straight line speed. Wiggins to Arizona. That's kind of a BPA approach for me with that one. Yeah, yeah. For a team that can go BPA. I mean, I love that haul for them. I think those are two fantastic football players.
Starting point is 00:59:46 And they get to grow together practicing against each other. People might be, when's Arizona's next pick? Oh, yeah, 35. Yeah, we can do O-line there. We're good to go. People might be kind of like weirded out that, oh, you didn't go O-line. I like it at 35. I think we'll be okay.
Starting point is 01:00:00 We'll be all right. Buffalo Bills at 28. Basically, pick your wide receiver here that you want. Yeah. I think Troy Franklin's probably the obvious pick. I'm trying to see if I missed anybody, if there was a big senior bowl standout. Like, I think Ladd had a good – here's the thing about Ladd. I think Ladd had a good week in Mobile.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Day one, he was basically uncoverable. And day two and three, he was fine. But it's not like he was just absolutely pantsing people the entire week i thought day one was by far his best day still still a good receiver but i don't think i'd take him over troy frank that'd be a good youtube video lad mcconkey pantses people on the field we're gonna go troy franklin because buffalo desperately needs another receiver here. The Lions, I'm going corner all the way. And I actually think. Rake straw might be more their type.
Starting point is 01:00:55 A guy that comes down, tackles like a bat out of hell. He's you're kind of right. His play speed. I know we all want to see him in Mobile. He was dealing with the injury. I think he played through some this year. I think Ray Strow is going to test really well. I can see the staff falling in love with that kind of player.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And for the Lions, I'm all corner all the way at this selection every time we do these mock drafts. I do actually really like that fit. I think that makes a lot of sense. Ravens at 30. Oh, Byron Murphy's still here. What are we doing? If they don't pay Matt Buke.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Byron Murphy could have gone to the Buffalo. He could have. I think you got it right. Could have gone to Arizona. I think you got it right. Could have gone to the Cowboys. I'm just surprised he's still here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Because Baltimore's interior, they have Justin Matabuke, but I think they're going to bring him back. But even so. I think so. He was phenomenal. And Michael Pierce is there. Travis Jones, Michael Pierce. Yeah, no, you're right.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I mean, they definitely need another guy who can play up and down. Calvin is a free agent. Irving can play up and down, and they need another guy like that. I don't think you're crazy at all. Yeah, but what if I left him for you to pick for the Chiefs? I still want a wide receiver. God, I was trying to do collusion, but you weren't cool with it. All right, Byron Murphy is second to the Ravens at 30.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Whether Matty Buke is there or not. So the Chiefs at 31, the guys that I really like for them, went off the board, of course. Oh, this got really tough. Who did you want? Either Franklin or Thomas. So I played myself. Sure.
Starting point is 01:02:45 Classic. Yeah, I don't think Tez is in this played myself. Sure. Classic. Yeah, I don't think Tez is in this conversation anymore. No. He could not catch the ball this week. So do they go down? Really bummed me out. Me too. It was tough.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Oh, man. Do they go down that well of looking for wide receiver later on? This is tricky. You know, I'm going to, I know we've talked about his struggles. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 01:03:15 I know we've talked about his struggle. The man's going to cave, but I think they can, I think they can take the flyer on Keon Coleman. I know, I know. Throw tomatoes at me off the stage. But I think they can take the flyer on Keon Coleman. Boo! I know, I know. Throw tomatoes at me off the stage. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 01:03:31 No, I deserve it. No, Coleman's a good player. He is. Well, not yet, honestly. He's not refined yet. But I don't think that he's still athletic as hell. You know what I'm saying? It's not like he doesn't have the ability to separate.
Starting point is 01:03:49 It's almost that he just doesn't.'t right so you can kind of teach i'm hoping this is a very easy landing spot to talk yourself into it's very chalky keon coleman to the chiefs okay fine oh my home's ran around for 20 seconds and now you throw it up to keon coleman yeah you can create separation in 20 seconds you know yes all right so now you're putting me in a bind here. Because you said that J.J. McCarthy was going around one, and here we are. J.J. McCarthy's not off the board. No, it's okay. And the Niners are picking the 32.
Starting point is 01:04:14 He can very well go around two in this month. And we've got a Brock Purdy stinks agenda on this podcast. We need to- No, we don't. No, we don't. He's going to win the Super Bowl. Actually, I don't know about that. I haven't thought about it yet.
Starting point is 01:04:25 We've been so into the Senior Bowl, I forgot about the big game. The big game. Yeah, thank you for calling it what it needs to be called because we can't have copyright here on the show. Please. When we talk about it which shall not be named for this show, that's the word. Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Yep. Just so you all know now. You got to call it the big game. And have it. You got to call it the big game. Somebody's going to report us for that. All right. So Niners are 32.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I think the cornerback is certainly on the board. Kool-Aid McKinstry is still here. Truly, and I mean truly, love this fit for them. I don't know if there's a better fit that we've had in the first round than if Kool-Aid McKinstry makes it to the Niners. He is such a smart cornerback that I feel like they could put a ton on his plate. Getting this caliber of a corner, cover corner at 32, I think this would be a I'm running for him.
Starting point is 01:05:25 So I'm going Cooley McKinstry. Panthers. Wait. We got to keep the lights on. Oh, thank God. Hold on. The channel's gone. You know why?
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Starting point is 01:06:25 Just you against the numbers. You pick more, you pick less. Folks, it's that easy. We have a full six stack from our guy Eli for the big game. Listen to this. The Patrick Mahomes one's in there. You know what it is. Patrick Mahomes, more than.5 passing yards. Brandon Iyuk, more
Starting point is 01:06:41 than 62.5 receiving yards. Isaiah Pacheco, more than 0.5 rush or receiving TDs. So he's just got a score. I like that one too. We got Brock Purdy plus Mahomes, 38.5 rushing yards combined. More than that. Oh, Chris Jones, more than 2.5 sacks. So if he even gets a half sack, you win this one. And then Christian McCaffrey, this is the toughest one. This is without question the toughest one. 90.5 rushing yards.
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Starting point is 01:07:36 You pick more, you pick less. It's that easy. All right, now you're up. Panthers are 33. You ready for this one? Oh, no. Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready?
Starting point is 01:07:47 What is it? Ricky Pearsall. This dude. Let me raise my hand. Overlad? I am completely the, you know, what I sleep on, what you sleep on. I've been sleeping. Sleeping. I was embarrassed. Watching Ricky Pearsall at practice senior bowl week, what you sleep on. I've been sleeping. Sleeping.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I was embarrassed. Watching Eric and Pearsall at practice senior bowl week, I was actually embarrassed. So were the corners. They tried to cover. They really were. When they saw him not walk on the field Thursday, they were like, thank God my prayers have been answered.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Put some good footage out. Pearsall catches everything. He knows how to separate he's a good athlete he can make the spectacular catch he's got excellent footwork this is the kind of pro the panthers need so badly for bryce i do i love this player he'd catch so many passes in 2024 potentially 90 as a rookie yeah which is insane so ricky pierce all we're getting some extra senior Bowl love here to start round two.
Starting point is 01:08:46 New England Patriots at 34. We'll probably pick up the pace here for the second half. Right, we need to. It'll be nine hours. We should have promoted this as a marathon. We're ignoring our families. Literally, my dog's going to kill me. Mock draft ultra race.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Jaden Daniels at number three, which means they got a receiver need oh no do we dare do we dare oh no i mean you got to i think we have to you have to do it lean in don't be afraid to lean in please give me another wide receiver who else we got is there anyone out there they're not gonna pick uh i mean they could pick ad mitchell but i don't know if they're gonna do that over lad it's so great says pick up the pace spends 95 minutes on lad mcconkie to new england i'm tough all right right, Lavaconkey to New England.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Screw it. Unbelievable. You know, he really, he really reminds me of Julian Edelman. You know, you might be onto something.
Starting point is 01:09:52 You know, I think he reminds me of a young Wes Welker. Very Wes Welker-y. You know, I think he, he's got a little bit of Danny Amendola to him.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yep. Even maybe some Danny Woodhead in there somewhere. A little bit of Chris Hogan. Actually, that one kind of might fit. I don't know. Because Chris Hogan. Actually, that one kind of might fit. I don't know. Because Chris Hogan actually could get vertical.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah. He was a really good athlete. And Chris Hogan was also the one who was semi-pro in lacrosse, wasn't he? Yeah, he was a very good lacrosse player. And Ladd McConkie's got the lacrosse background, if you couldn't tell from the name Ladd McConkie. I think you found the comp. No, I'm still going with Eddie Royal.
Starting point is 01:10:26 That was my comp in the draft guide. Well done. Now you're just flexing. Virginia Tech, great. Alright, Ladd-McConkie to the Patriots. You're up. Arizona, we talked about with them, their fans might not be happy. I took a corner in Nate Wiggins instead of offensive line help, but good news.
Starting point is 01:10:42 The offensive line help is still here. You want me to do offensive line help is still here. You want me to you want me to do offense tackle? What do you want? Yeah, let's look at the tackles first. OK, now Morgan Morgan didn't have a great week. Morgan did not have a great week, which really breaks my heart because I am a Morgan Stan. Yeah, I like Graham Barton's position versatility for this team. OK, the fact you get a guy that could play pretty much anywhere on the offensive line.
Starting point is 01:11:06 I would go with Barton in this spot. Okay. And just see where you need to play him. All right. So we're going, we're going Graham Barton here to add to the arsenal of, of picks that we're now accumulating for the Arizona Cardinals. So we go with Drake May,
Starting point is 01:11:20 number two for the Washington commanders. Man, they got basically any spot. O-line, like interior offensive line, I think they... Ooh. Ooh. That little Christian
Starting point is 01:11:37 Haynes action. I think they need interior offensive line. I would call him the most consistent player at the Senior Bowl. Oh, dude, he was awesome. Unbelievable. I mean, they've got Sadiq Charles and Tyler Larson, who are unrestricted free agents coming up.
Starting point is 01:11:57 He could play either spot. I think he could play guard or center for you. I agree. But they don't have anybody at pass rusher. They got nobody. Braswell's kind of staring you in the face there he is we're having to we're having a game of chicken who's gonna blink first me or chris you are chris because i'm picking the o-line but no i'm kidding um we'll go braswell we'll go braswell here i think that like early round, I feel more comfortable for him.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Late first round, I just don't think he had that caliber of a week, but I do think he's a good football player, a really explosive football player. You can't teach the type of athleticism this guy has. When he was going through the warm-up drills, he's getting off the line of scrimmage, especially from a three- and a four-point stance, faster than anybody else that was in his group.
Starting point is 01:12:41 A team that desperately needs some edge rushers, let's go get an Alabama edge rusher for him. Braswell here at 36. Chargers at 37. I'm going to take TJ Tampa in this spot. They need a corner really badly. Really, basically, whatever corner they had against Asante Samuel, and I know it rotated a bit, but a lot of it was Michael Davis. They had a lot of problems this year. They need another outside corner for this defense. Tampa's got length. He can open up and run down the field with vertical threats.
Starting point is 01:13:09 He's going to test really, really well. I think this is the sweet spot of the draft for him right here. Okay. All right. So here with the Titans at 38, we went with, who did he get, Joel first? Yeah. Then we had Joel at seven.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I could double dip at offensive line. I really could. Easily. If you want to. Christian Haynes, again, is calling my name here if they wanted to double dip. I also think about defensive line. I look at this team on the defensive line.
Starting point is 01:13:41 They got Harold Landry and Jeffery Simmons, which is great. They're stars, but yeah. Kyle Pecco's a free agent. Danico Autry's a free agent. I mean, if you want to go a little further, like Joe Johnson's also a free agent. They've kind of got edge, but... Interior defensive line. I don't know if they picked Devondre Sweat here.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I feel like it's a little early for him. As much as he had some super dominant reps as a here. I feel like it's a little early for him. As much as he had some super dominant reps as a senior, but I think it's a little early for him. It's a little early. All right, let's double dip O-line. Let's do it. You had Peter Skoronski last year. If you get Joe Walt, Christian Haynes, and Peter Skoronski
Starting point is 01:14:17 on that offensive line, this is now, in the span of two drafts, you have completely revamped that unit. 100%. And you've got some really great building blocks to move on moving forward. Haynes was awesome at the senior bowl. So there we go. Giants, similar strategy here. The interior run continues.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I'm going to take Zach Frazier here, and I'm going to play John Michael Schmitz at guard in this spot. The Giants, there's a world where they take a tackle at six and kick Evan Neal inside in this draft they don't instead they really need to show up their guard spots Frazier's a phenomenal player this makes the Giants line significantly better so moving on to Washington at 40 I just kind of went through it there, taking Chris Braswell over an offensive lineman. I do think this spot now could make sense for Jordan Morgan. Yeah, let's not write off Morgan.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Now he does get to play guard, and I still think he would be a guard. And let's face it, he does have that tackle versatility to him. So I think that this is a spot kind of, unless I'm really missing somebody, I think this is the direction I'm going to go. I like Kamari Lassiter. Cause I think, I think they need corner as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:38 I'm not really picking, not really picking anybody else. Some of these guys, I definitely got to bring up from, from senior bowl performances. They played really, really well. But yeah, let's go Jordan Morgan here. Morgan at 40 to Washington.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Okay, Packers are back on the clock here. This is from the Jets pick. This is the Jets pick from the Aaron Rodgers trade. What are... So Cooper Dijon, great versatility for their secondary. I still think they even they could still use more corner more secondary help here i think the gene's gonna play a more true corner role whether that's as the nickel or outside i'm kind of interested in newben or kitchens here it's a little early for them yeah right that the problem. I would take new been here,
Starting point is 01:16:25 but I just don't want to double up at DB. They do have another pick at 57, by the way. Okay. That makes this a lot easier. That's their own pick. Yeah. What are my interior offensive line options?
Starting point is 01:16:39 All right. We get Christian Mahogany. Yeah. I've got a bow limber who had a really nice week. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's definitely going.
Starting point is 01:16:46 I don't love this for green Bay in that spot. You want to see tackles? Yeah. I like, I like Kieran. I think, I think, I think Sua Matia is going to go high.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Probably. And I could see them taking him here. I was just going to say this makes so much sense for Green Bay because they love to develop tackles over time. They don't just throw guys into the fire all the time. So Sumo Mattia would be the
Starting point is 01:17:16 pick here. Okay. It was a little bit of a surprise that he declared, but he just has physical ability. So we went with Dallas Turner at 11 for the Vikings. You know who this could be? Okay, I know who I'm going to say, but go ahead. Who are you going to say?
Starting point is 01:17:38 It could be McCarthy. That's what I was going to bring up. Go, run, run, run, run, run with it. Because I don't hate this. Let me just make that clear. Yeah, but my thing is, even if they have a quarterback option going into the draft,
Starting point is 01:17:53 is it going to be a long-term one? Probably not. No, it absolutely will not be. Because even Kirk wouldn't be, even if you brought Kirk back, it wouldn't be a long-term option. He's not. So unless you're trading for Justin Fields,
Starting point is 01:18:03 and even with that being the case, it's not necessarily a long-term option. Essentially, unless you're trading for justin fields and even with that being the case it's not necessarily a long-term option and essentially the only long-term option that you have is if you sign baker mayfield like a four-year deal and baker is probably going to be more in line with the geno structure where it's not going to be guaranteed forever so it's not another all right national champion jj mccarthy 42 to the v. Falcons at 43. We had Jared Vers go to them. We didn't need the first round. Version the first. They need another wide receiver.
Starting point is 01:18:32 To help out Drake London. In this offense. Good offensive line. Great running back that they need to use more. I know. Oh man, you know who I'm kind of intrigued by here. Xavier Worthy, just because he can really stretch the field for them and create more space for all the talent that they have. I'm going to go with Xavier Worthy in this spot.
Starting point is 01:19:01 OK, all right. Drafts. Not a lot of buzz lately for Worthy, but it will pick up. Dude's going to blow up the combine. It'll pick up. He's better than people think. Michael Penn, maybe. Like, but longer.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I said that wrong. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think because he's so skinny, people think he's 5'7". No, I don't think he's 5'7",
Starting point is 01:19:21 but he is definitely skinny. We always joke, Augusta Wynn could blow him out of the stadium. Okay, so. That's what he said on the pod. He said that on the pod. He said it on the pod. On the pod. Michael Penix Jr. went to the Raiders in the first round.
Starting point is 01:19:37 I think corner is now a big need for them in the second round. Kamari Laster is still here. He's a really easy pick for them. If we didn't have Laster on the board. He's a really easy pick for them. If we didn't have Laster on the board, maybe it's a different type of discussion. Maybe they aren't able to go corner if you don't feel good about one at 44, but I definitely feel good about Laster at 44. So that kind of eases those worries. Marcus Peters out, you know, you just, you need more cornerback talent on the team. DB talent, I think overall, but yeah, Laster at 44 to the Raiders.
Starting point is 01:20:09 All right. For the Saints at 45, I'm going to go with davantez walker here i know he had an up and down week he can cover a lot of ground i thought his hands at the senior bowl did not match what he showed on tape which was disappointing the saints michael thomas is a free agent you got chris alave there you need another wide receiver as you're sticking with Derek Carr. Walker to me. I still like him even after the tough week. Indy up next. You went Terry and Arnold with your first selection with them. Could go O-line? Could.
Starting point is 01:20:41 You mentioned the O-line. It was a lot better last year. It was all right. Yeah, it definitely got better. You run into the assumption that they bring back Michael Pittman Jr. Have to. I feel like they would as well. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Man, I'm kind of stumped here. They're a really tough team. So let's just do, all right, what's BPA? What do we got BPA? Could take Jonah Ellis. Could take Chris Jenkins. Yeah, oh, Chris Jenkins. That's a very Ballard player.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Because they might lose Grover Stewart. And he was the cog to their run defense. The splits when he was out versus when he was healthy are jarring. Yeah, Chris Jenkins Jr. I think makes a ton of sense. That's a great fit. Yep, yep. We're going Chris Jenkins Jr. here. So you're up with the Giants.
Starting point is 01:21:33 All right, up with the Giants in this spot. I'm going to go with Darius Robinson here. A guy that could play up and down the line of scrimmage. They have, of course, Kayvon Thibodeau and Dexter Lawrence, but they still need more help up front. And they need that flex guy that I think can kick from being a wide rusher to five tech to three tech. He's a very unique player in that mold.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Very power profile. So Darius Robinson, good fit for that Giants front. Man, the rise of Darius Robinson, what a week for him in Mobile. I think he's almost near locked to go top 50, so I didn't want to get too far away from that. Yeah, yeah. Love it or hate it. I don't know if he'll be in my top 50.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Oh, really? I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to say it's for sure, but he's going. Yeah, it feels like the NFL is extremely high on him. So I think that with this being a predictive mock, that those make sense. So Jags, you went Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 01:22:32 Hell yeah, I did. I'm in the first round. He wasn't ready. I think they need... Man, I think they could use another corner. I think they could use another corner. I think they could use another safety. But... I know, it's kind of fun to think about.
Starting point is 01:22:50 I still like the way that these guys play. Yeah. I think Joan Ellis could be on the table as another pass rusher for them. But man, I mean, like... You got Trayvon, you're bringing back Josh Allen. I guess you can never have too many pass rushers that's what they say interior offensive line I think they need that as well let's see you know what you had fun with the uh with the wide receiver pick last time now you gotta eat vegetables I'm gonna go with another yeah it's time to eat their vegetables I'm going to go with another. Yeah. It's time
Starting point is 01:23:25 to eat their vegetables. I'm going to go with another senior bowl guy here. Somebody I think who is, was awesome. I'm going to go with Dominic Poonie from Kansas. He doesn't, he didn't get the love he deserved. And I feel partially guilty as that as well. I didn't, I didn't talk about him on our show, dude. He got reps at tackle. He got reps at guard. And just 6'4", 323 pounds, man. I felt like he was winning with power consistently. I feel like he would be a power presence within that Jags interior offensive line that would give them some attitude. And I think they got to get meaner up front,
Starting point is 01:23:56 and they got to get better up front. And I think Poonie actually really does that from what I saw from him this week. So I'll go with him at 48. 49 with the Bengals. You took Amarius Mims. I know you took a tackle. JC Latham. JC Latham. Yeah. Yep. So you took the right tackle. I'm going to take Jatavion Sanders, the tight end from Texas here. Good athlete. I was really impressed with what he could do is blocking at the second level. There's a couple of times where he climbs the DBs and
Starting point is 01:24:23 his ability to hit the strike zone and plant them. Uh, I was impressed. Let me just say that I think with his athleticism in this offense, work in the middle of the field, this is where you want him to go. Eagles. We had them going with the pick of the future in Tyler Guyton. First round. I think this pick now probably got to be a DB. Yeah. It's, it's,
Starting point is 01:24:49 it's got to be, I can hear the birds fans shouting it. Um, I really liked the way that Renato green played at the shrine bowl. I liked what I saw from Chris Abrams drain. Um, Kyrie Jackson, though,
Starting point is 01:25:02 I wonder if he's going to end up being the highest pick of these guys who are left I've got him a little bit lower just on the big board but I did feel like he played well this week where do they go safety they just picked Sidney Brown I don't know if that's totally I mean that doesn't that doesn't take both these guys off the table, does it? I'm going to look at the depth chart. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:25:29 They got Reid. They traded for Kevin Bayard. So I guess, if anything, they're probably going to go with... Oh! No, they're going to take Mike Sammer still. I was surprised you didn't say his name when you were going through the DBs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to take Mike Sammerstow. I was surprised you didn't say his name when you were going through the DBs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to take Mike Sammerstow, 100%.
Starting point is 01:25:48 If they're in this situation, they'd take Mike Sammerstow. He's one of the best nickel slash safety players that we got. Rams at 51. I'm thinking secondary as well, Trevor. And I'm going to go with Tyler Newbin on the back end. Ball hawk range, can play up front if you need him to in a pinch. I just love his range and instincts pre-snap first safety to come off the board steelers at 52 what db did i pick for them oh coin yawn yay yeah yeah that's that's a good
Starting point is 01:26:17 pick very steelers personality solid pick do we got another center that i like here oh maybe this is a bow Limer spot. Could be. I think it's still a little early for him. Oh, no, wait. Okay, you picked Newman for the Rams. Sorry, you picked Newman for the Rams. I'm all confused here.
Starting point is 01:26:38 That means I could pick safety for Steve. Oh, yeah, you could take Kinchins or whoever of your choosing Oh I kind of like that. Are you going to do it to him?
Starting point is 01:26:54 I don't know It's unknown whether or not he's going to do it to them I like Kieran as well though, and he's getting far down here Let me make sure I'm not overlooking anything on the depth chart I like Kieran as well, though. And he's getting far down here. Let me make sure I'm not overlooking anything on the depth chart. I feel like they could use wide receiver as well.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Who we got at wide receiver? A.D. Mitchell's here. My guy. I'm so torn. Yeah, you are. I'm surprised he just didn't take kitchens. I didn't. I haven't watched the all 22 safeties, but like, I just, I thought he was fine.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Right. He didn't really pop for me at all. I think that's, I think that's, which it's tough for safety to do. I don't want to like. They can't hit it. They can't, yeah. Alright, I'm going
Starting point is 01:27:52 Adrian Cooper. I'm going Adrian Cooper. I'm giving him the most athletic linebacker that we've gotten in class. Yeah, that was a total plot twist, but when I scrolled down and I saw him there, I think the NFL is going to pick this guy somewhere in the second round, and I think that the Steelers do need to get more athletic at the linebacker level so cooper cooper there i think that they're gonna lean that all right the dolphins
Starting point is 01:28:11 are back on the clock i got them offensive line help in fountain now in round one i am gonna look here for pass rush help and i'll go with chop robinson in spot. I think that we know Jalen Phillips' injury, Bradley Chubb injury. They are going to need another pass rusher on this roster. Not a guy that needs to play 90% of the snaps, 80% of the snaps, but Chop's got to be their third down. It's a team that they play with a lot of leads with that offense. They need somebody that can pin their ears back and go in pass heavy situations. So chop to Miami.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Okay. All right. Chop getting picked here at number 53. A little bit of a fall for him from where we've seen him previously. Eagles. I might go Roman Wilson here. Anyone's going to think you're nuts. Over 80 Mitchell, over Jalen Polk,
Starting point is 01:29:05 he's just a different type of dude. No, I'm going to go Jalen Polk. Yeah, I like Polk better. Yeah, I do too. I don't know how high the NFL is going to be on Roman Wilson. I know it's going to be pretty high after this week of the Senior Bowl, but I don't know if it's going to be still over some of these top guys that we have on the board here.
Starting point is 01:29:29 So I'm going to stick with the board a little bit, and I'm going to go Jalen Polk to the Eagles. Browns at 55. I'll go Jonah Ellis in this spot. Get them another pass rusher. Z'Darrius Smith is a pending free agent. I'm sure they can go sign one in free agency. But as we do this before free agency, I see getting another guy that could rush the passer a big deal.
Starting point is 01:29:50 I don't love the interior board in this spot. I think they can address that later. So although I was intrigued by Tavondre sweat here, I still think he's going in the third round unless he comes into the combine with the weight issues under control. So it just felt like a smidge early. Love the player though. Well, I think I'm going to take him here. I mean,
Starting point is 01:30:14 I'm not going to stop you. I am going to be, I'm going to be very high on to Von Dre sweat. Cause I just think he's a really good football player that you just deal with the fact is snap counts going to be kind of low. I feel like, I feel like Jerry's going to want just like this unique, massive man in the middle.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Yes. So we had a Mary's memes going the first round for them. So we did all offensive line. They have the biggest draft of all time. And I'm going to Andre sweat for them at 56. It's like 790 pounds. It's unreal. All right.
Starting point is 01:30:44 All right. You're a Packers. God, I feel feel like a packers i'm just always picking for the packers yeah all right let's pull up their no boy didn't i make this easier for you didn't i tell you that they could take a safety at this point oh that's right so this is where yeah pull actually i want to see all the safeties not just kitchens oh man i like Bullard. I really do. I think I'm going to take... I'm going to take Kitchens because I think they can play him at free if they want to. Yes. That's why I'm doing that.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Okay. All right. I said that the Bucks had big corner needs, so if they didn't go with a cornerback in round one, they probably should do so in round two. I had them going Braylon Trice in the first round of 26. So I feel as though, I mean, it could be safety. But I genuinely think that it's going to be corner.
Starting point is 01:31:37 Which one, though? That's the question. I think Renardo Green is really good. I think he's in consideration here. Honestly, hand up, I don't have Jarvis Brownlee Jr. in the mock draft simulator yet. But it's coming.
Starting point is 01:31:54 I think I'd pick him here at 58. Good for him, man. It's coming really soon. And he was just locked down this past week. Now, I got to go over his film before I put him in the mock draft simulator because I got to be able to put him somewhere and I can't just go off
Starting point is 01:32:06 a couple of days of senior bowl practices. But man, he was... You can do it for anyone. I mean, this is a very impressive player. Do I think Green's going to be a back-end second rounder? I don't know if I do. I wouldn't pick a tight end.
Starting point is 01:32:25 I could pick Keerney and he could play on one of the guard spots. Maybe that's the direction I go. I'm having an internal battle here. You really are. Offensive tackle. Let's see who we got. I like some of these guys, but I think here you could play guard. I think you'd be a starter at guard.
Starting point is 01:32:45 So I think that one definitely makes sense. I could go mahogany. Mahogany does play that left guard spot. So it'd pretty, there'd be a pretty easy transition for him. Cody mock play right guard. And then I just don't love any of the corners that are left. That's kind of what happened. So you don't want to force that.
Starting point is 01:33:03 I like hearing a good amount. I'm gonna go care in here. 58. I just absolutely played myself so hard i was like oh the bucks gotta get corner and then guess what they don't so it didn't happen yeah i think mock drafts just i saw people with bucks mocks that was going around um and i i didn't really love any of them but now that i'm doing the exercise myself it is a little bit trickier so for whatever it's worth you're up with the Texans. Can you filter the wide receivers in this spot? Of course.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Okay, so we know they have Nico Collins. Great. Tank Dell. Great. I would still like to get one more wide receiver here. Man, Roman Wilson. I would go Corley, but I think Tank gets the touches Corley gets. That's why I don't want to go that route.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Scroll up a little bit. I'm going to go A.D. Mitchell here. Dude, I consider A.D. Mitchell in the first round for them. Yeah, A.D. Mitchell. 59 is money. I think of the red zone offense with him and Nico Collins. That's crazy. Really, really. Tank will get healthy.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Yeah. Texans run serious. Tank will get healthy. Yeah. Texans run serious 11 personnel. Bills. Wide receiver is the obvious one. I feel like interior defensive line is probably the next spot. Yeah, you took Troy Franklin for them. That's right. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Right, right. Doorless. Yeah, I just... I like Doorless as a football player, but he showed up at 272 at the senior bowl. So I always felt like he was versatile, but I like him most as an interior presence. And if he's going to be an interior presence, he's got to gain weight.
Starting point is 01:34:40 He's kind of going the wrong direction right now. He's kind of more of like, you know no what probably wants to test pretty sick numbers and he's probably steadily leaning out right don't you think that yeah but again you know if you test really well and you're 270 and i want to play you on the interior, I just think 270 is a really tricky weight for him. I agree. You're basically only a 3-4 defensive end at that point. He doesn't have the finesse game to be a true 5-tech 4-3 defensive end. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:17 And he doesn't have the size to be a 4-3 defensive tackle. I think he's kind of like pigeonholed. Life of a tweener. I think he's kind of like going the wrong direction here. Anyways,ener. I think he's kind of like going the wrong direction here. Anyways, I'm actually going to take Adiza Isaac for the Buffalo Bills. I thought Isaac had a really nice week in Mobile. Another Senior Bowl shout-out player. I don't think he gets nearly the love he deserves
Starting point is 01:35:35 because he's playing on the opposite side of Chop Robinson, who was a projected top 15 pick right at the beginning of the season. Isaac's a good run defender. I thought he showed some nice pass rush ability this past week as well. Really nice long arm move. I think he's somebody who would really elevate the floor of the Bills defensive line. So we're going to Isaac at 60.
Starting point is 01:35:53 He would have been in consideration for the Lions here at 61 for me. Instead, I will take Austin Booker from Kansas. He snatched some souls down there. There are a couple of sick reps he's got a long arm he's got outside speed i know he didn't play a lot of college football but i understand why he's going to go early with his traits and his skill set to simply beat tackles on an island so the ravens are up now at 62 i had them them taking Byron Murphy the second in the first round. Could use a wide receiver here.
Starting point is 01:36:30 But of the guys that are left, the only one who's really imposing with size is John Wilson. I'm not going to pick him at 62. Or Brennan Rice. No, I could pick Brennan Rice. But I am worried about the lack of separation from him. That's fair. I went into the week thinking that I was going to see Brandon Rice be very technically sound, be able to separate with how nuanced he was as a route runner.
Starting point is 01:36:52 He's a former track guy, so he has like sprinter speed. But then you see him on the field and he really didn't separate much at all. Now, I was very pleasantly surprised with how strong he was. The catch point was crazy. So he definitely fits what the Ravens, I think, need. But I don't know if I'm taking that player 62. Maybe, I think, we're obviously having a conversation about it, but
Starting point is 01:37:13 instead I do look at corner. I go back to corner. And I do like Renardo Green here. Okay. Just lives in press coverage. Loves press coverage, loves press coverage, had a really great shrine bowl. I'm going to go Renardo Green.
Starting point is 01:37:32 I'm going to go with the corner here above Brendan Rice. The Chiefs at 63. Filter the wide receivers again. They took Keon Coleman in round one. They took Keonman in round one man call me an absolute lunatic but i think i'm gonna take roman wilson here basically it's like the alamo all right if the chiefs are the alamo never again
Starting point is 01:38:01 we're not trotting out we are not trotting out Kadarius Tony and MBS is gonna leave after this year and we love her she rice but we need two receivers and we're gonna really double down okay maybe I'm an absolute lunatic look I don't know how much longer Travis Kellis is gonna be there so you might as well start stacking receiving talent one more Lombardi and it might not be next year. Right, right. Now, I don't think Travis is going to retire this year because I'm not sure he's going to retire
Starting point is 01:38:34 the same year as his brother. That's a good point. But somebody else said to me this week when I brought that up, what if they retire at the same time and get to go in the Hall of Fame together? That's pretty sick. And they are media superstars together now here's the thing is jason a first ballot hall of famer i don't know because travis is travis is you can make the argument question the goat tight end right the second he gets on the ballot he's in the hall of fame is jason great
Starting point is 01:39:03 player you know i'm an old player i i think he but i don't know i think he might be because of the personality on top of being an all-time player i actually think he gets the votes i think which is awesome by the way into it count me in like i'm all it's not it's not yeah it's not like he's not deserving the hall of fame i just wondered if he's me it's an interesting one that'd be really unique and cool all right you're going roman wilson i'm going roman going Roman Wilson. I've completely lost my mind. Final pick of the draft here. I had the Niners going Kool-Aid McKinstry at 32. Is there anything else?
Starting point is 01:39:35 Is there like a dire need for the 49ers? Like they're basically. Wait. Do they not have. Oh, okay. So I'm looking at our lads and they must not have their unrestricted free agents. Not for the two teams left.
Starting point is 01:39:50 I just had this with the Chiefs. Yeah. I'm looking at their roster. I'm like, damn, that's pretty nice. You're in the Super Bowl and you're not losing anyone? No free agents? All right, hold on. Isn't Shavarius Ward or no?
Starting point is 01:40:01 No, maybe not. Free agents 2024. All right, let's take a look at this. All right, Randy Gregory, Chase Young, Javon Kinlaw, Sean Gibson, Cleo and Farrell. Ward is not. Man, not. Not much.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Yeah, not really. Oh, Javon Jennings is a free agent. They need another pass rusher, right? They will need another pass rusher because I don't think you're signing Chase Young. Probably not. That was some mercenary rental. It was kind of a mercenary rental, which is sick. What about
Starting point is 01:40:32 offensive tackle, though? Some good ones left back in the second round, though. I like Christian Jones and how he played at the Senior Bowl. Yeah, he's played like 8 million college football games. Did you know that? 61, but yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot of college football I mean that is a lot you like it you like it if you're the Niners
Starting point is 01:40:49 oh I wonder if they go for like a Marshawn Nealon that makes a lot of sense that makes a lot of sense maybe down here we miss I don't think so like he had a good senior bowl he's got those long arms arms. Javon Solomon, I like the tape, man. He's a bursty. Yeah, super. But he used to be an off-ball linebacker. Now he's an edge player, but he's six feet tall. That's zeroth percentile for edge rushers.
Starting point is 01:41:14 Now the arm length is 50th percentile. I think it's 47th percentile arm length and maybe 57th wingspan, or maybe it's the other way around. So, dude, he does have the length to play edge. He's just small. Now, maybe you say like, oh oh that's actually a good thing because he's smaller in height he's got the natural leverage and then he's got the long arms maybe it's double positive for you i just don't know if he's gonna end up going 64 and neil is probably more realistic at that point if i'm gonna go edge and wide receiver, do they go Bren Rice? The legacy pick?
Starting point is 01:41:48 Wow, the legacy pick in round two. Because they got Ayuk and Jennings. I mean, actually, Bren Rice would fit if Juwan Jennings does not re-sign with them. I think you might be able to get him in round three. Yeah, I think so too. I think we're going Neyland here. I like Neyland. Neyland was a really good call.
Starting point is 01:42:04 I wasn't even thinking that. It's just very fitting. Yeah, I think we're going neil and here i like neil neil was a really good call i wasn't even thinking that it's just very fitting yeah i think we're going i think we're going edge here because it yeah i i like neil and more than i like the offensive tackles that are left on the board i'm excited for us to redo the edge rankings because tui malo out and sawyer went back to school and they were in my top 10 yeah right so like neil and darius robinson austin booker i've caught up on the next group of edge rushers and i'm like damn i'm excited to get them high in the rankings because they've really played well all right there we go that was fun i'm not gonna read all of them no no just just watch the video on youtube watch the video audio only we love you guys so much. I'm not naming all these people. Stop asking it.
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Starting point is 01:43:08 We at an hour 15 now? No, no, no. I'm sorry, hour 45. Hour 45, yeah. But that's expected with a two-rounder. Look at Ricky going 33. You're either about that life or you're not, all right? So, we're done.
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Starting point is 01:44:52 Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here? Summed it up great. Fun exercise. Can't wait to read everybody's comments of what they want their team to do in round two because we haven't done that yet. And I'm ready for Vegas. Dude, we we're going to be back together again. The next time that you hear our voices here on this channel will probably be Tuesday or Wednesday of next week,
Starting point is 01:45:14 just depending on the day that we have more open. It's going to need to be a little bit more fluid. Our topic is kind of up in the air. So if you guys want to comment maybe what you're going to want to see obviously we have the the big game the big game left here in this season but a lot of people have turned the page over to the offseason i know some of you have mentioned hey looking back at our draft grades that we gave initially so for some of the teams maybe we end up doing that exercise while we are in vegas together but we'd love to hear from you guys on what you want the topic of next week
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