NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 232. NO NOTES: Re-drafting 2023 QBs, McCarthy O/U, Rankings Pancake Toppings
Episode Date: February 16, 2024Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers come up with five questions each (four football related, the other a mystery) and the other has to answer those questions with no notes. The two tackle topics like re-...drafting the QBs from 2023, where JJ McCarthy will get drafted, Combine snubs, food topping rankings and more!
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Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast.
In this episode, we're bringing back the no notes format.
So the way this goes is Connor and I have five questions each,
four football questions,
and one kind of off-the-wall fun question.
And the other one has to answer it, no notes.
It's how the show goes.
It normally has some pretty great moments that it creates because of this format.
I'm Trevor Sycamore.
With me, as always, is Connor Rogers.
Let's ring the bell.
Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sykema. That is
Connor Rogers joining you guys for a very special episode. I know it's the only one that we have
this week, so we're going to make it extra special for you. It's a no-notes episode,
maybe. We're going back to the format that people have been asking for for a little while now.
Connor and I kind of just came up with this out of the blue. If you didn't watch the last one, what Connor and I do is we come up with five questions for the other person.
And obviously, we'll discuss it together.
Four of them, football related, draft related, whatever.
And then one of them can be literally whatever it is.
Connor and I are going to hold up our questions.
We went the extra mile.
We write them out.
We're going to hold them up so you guys can read them as well.
And then we're going to talk about it. And the reason why it's no notes is because we have to answer it
no notes. I don't know what Connor's questions are. He doesn't know what mine are.
This is going to be a good time. We're going to have a lot of fun. Connor, how are you doing, my friend?
Great. I love these shows. It's a lot of fun. It's an open format. It gives us a chance to talk about things
that we might not normally get to cover in our week-to-week draft analysis
and everything like that. So this
is always a lot of fun, man. And I'm excited for the five note cards I have ready written down to
throw at you. We got to do homework for this one. That's how it feels like I actually texted you.
I was like, all right, you ready to do this? And I was like, oh, shoot. I didn't write it down.
So like the same thing. I've had the topics in my head. And then like 10 minutes before we're
about to record, I was like, I would probably help if I actually got found a Sharpie and wrote these down for Trevor to see.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So anybody who's like looking for like position rankings and things like that, that are kind of coming down the schedule for the show as we get to get into the combine, we will talk about at the end of the show.
We will have a ranking show for you in the next episode.
We'll leave that as a teaser to what's coming next.
You got to watch the whole episode to figure out which one it is or you can fast forward through the show don't do that
that's cheating come on help us out families are filming the sharpen so uh connor if you uh i don't
know that was all my housekeeping stuff that was a pretty quick intro but you want to get right into
it i'm ready to rock you want me to throw on your way? Yes. Yeah. I'm mentally ready.
Mentally ready.
Physically ready.
This is what all the training's for.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
This is very relevant in terms of timing.
Ooh, biggest combine snub.
So you mean largest, like fat, like fattest?
Yeah.
Who's the heaviest player that got snubbed from the combine?
Tavondre sweats there, so
it's not him.
I know, so it can't be
sweat.
That can't be an easy
answer.
Oh, so this is a good one,
obviously.
We've got the NFL combine
coming up in about a week
and a half.
Super excited for that
one.
It's one of our favorite
events we've talked about
on the show that we have
during the calendar year.
So I would say there's a
couple that come to mind here.
The first one is actually Grayson Murphy, the edge rusher from UCLA, because his brother got
invited. His brother's going to the combine. Gabriel is. And it's his twin brother. First
of all, how do you do this to him like they played high school
football together they grew up together they they went to ucla together they probably got the same
agent they both went to the shrine bowl these dudes they took their helmets off at the shrine
bowl and i'm like y'all are i i get i know the twin thing i'm stating an obvious here can't tell
you two apart the haircut was exactly the same like the length in between when they needed to
get their next haircut the beard length was the same it's like come on can one of you just
go like go goatee over here help us out recognize you i was talking to uh latu latu on the sidelines
of the senior bowl and he was joking around he's like yeah i i actually like roomed with those guys
and it was extremely difficult and he lives with them to identify who is who and he lives with them. To identify who is who.
And he lives with them.
He lives with them.
So anyways.
Well, the NFL found a way.
They're like, one of you is just not going.
Yeah, and it's sick.
And I hate it.
It's really sicko stuff.
So look, Gabriel Murphy gets invited.
And I've talked about this on this show.
I like Gabriel's game a little bit better.
They're very similar players.
Obviously, very similar just in natural athleticism. Their height, their weight, the measurables, all that. It's extremely similar
with them being twins, but Gabriel's a little bit quicker with his hands. He's a little bit more
pass rush proficient when it comes to those finesse moves and getting off blocks.
Grayson's a little bit more powerful. He builds his pass rush more from a bull rush, but both of them are pretty neck and neck there.
And the reason why I think that Grayson is,
is one of the biggest combine snubs is because it's like,
I kind of think it's,
I kind of think,
like you said,
like this kind of dirty a little bit,
because I wonder if the NFL went,
well,
if we just see what Gabriel runs and jumps,
then we basically know
the other one and like this kind of messed up it's kind of messed up you only get to go through
the combine once in your life like it only has you don't even you don't even get to do it at
any other point in your life this is it and like to not invite grayson and to fight game i don't
know man it's kind of dirty to me so i feel like. So I feel like he's a big combine snub. Christian Boyd, the interior defensive lineman from Northern Iowa, he was
another Shrine standout. He was somebody who I would have loved to see at the combine. He was
pretty relatively unknown before Shrine Bowl week. So I understand why he wasn't invited,
but the caliber of week that he had, I would have liked to see him there at that event.
And then the last one,
a little bit of a sleeper here.
This is another shrine bowl guy.
So I guess they're all shrine bowl guys.
AJ Woods,
the defensive back from Pittsburgh really caught my eye with some of his
movement ability,
flipping the hips,
turning to run,
opening it up.
I thought he was great in special teams for this reason.
When I was watching them go through the special teams portion of practices.
And I would have loved to see what the three cone,
the 10-yard split, the 40-yard dash,
like all the athletic stuff would have been for him.
Because I feel like when I watched those couple of days of trying practices,
it really impressed me.
So I wondered if we had something here with a sleeper.
And I still think we kind of do.
But those are the three that immediately came to my mind.
Who are some players?
Any of those guys on your radar?
Or is it somebody else and I missed?
Boyd definitely jumped out because I was watching all the clips from Shrine.
And I was like, damn, this is a dude that is making the most of it.
And you'd love to see the process continue for him.
I'll also stick with the UCLA theme.
I was shocked Carson Steele wasn't invited to the combine.
I was. I'm kind of surprised he came out well number one absolutely i didn't think he was going to come
out i thought he'd you know go back and have a big year and um you know a guy that transferred
from uh believe it was ball state um you know had a phenomenal year there he had over 1500 yards
yeah he was stud there he was a stud there. He was a stud.
And, you know, you think you'd go for two years to UCLA.
And also somebody that, you know, this is not a very inspiring running back class.
So to not get invited to the combine in that group, it hurts.
It's a tough one and definitely shocked me.
So UCLA with two big snubs right there for sure. And then this one only surprised me because of the of the nature of like, basically, if you're a senior bowl guy, it feels like you usually go to the combine.
And the fact that this guy was a quarterback and didn't get invited to the combine.
Oh, Bradley.
Carter Bradley.
Yeah.
Carter Bradley.
I know he wasn't really a huge prospect before Senior Bowl, but he still got the Senior Bowl invite.
And when you look at the quarterback list, you just kind of expect him to be there.
I wouldn't call it a snub.
Once again, I guess I wasn't really floored by it in any way.
But I mean, Austin Reed got invited.
Keaton Slovis got invited.
So yeah, a little bit of a surprise there.
I don't think there was anything overly egregious, though.
Like Kobe Turner not being invited last year will forever blow my mind.
That was crazy.
Crazy. That was crazy.
And he still went in the third round.
So usually what they tell you is the combine is a really for everybody that's getting into this business or, you know, just following it.
They usually tell you that the combine is a good indicator of who will be drafted because it's obviously curated by the opinions of the NFL teams.
So when you see a guy that's not invited to the combine, it doesn't mean it's the end all for him, but it just means that maybe he's not ranked where you'd expect.
But Turner was a weird one because still went day two.
He had a great rookie season.
Yeah, and he was good.
And I think some people talk about Talia Tungavailoa to his little brother.
That's a good call out.
He didn't get invited to the combine, but I don't really care about the combine for quarterbacks, right?
I think they don't really go and do anything anymore anyway. Yeah. And I guess
that for quarterbacks, it matters just because you would have a chance to meet with a lot of
NFL teams and that's probably where it comes from. And so I think with quarterback, maybe more than
other positions, if you don't get invited, that's not a good sign. Exactly.
Because that's the ultimate position where you have to get to know the person.
And yeah, I think there are some people that over the last couple of years have liked what Talia has been able to do.
But I think this pretty much solidifies that he's a late day three type of a quarterback.
Yeah, UDFA.
Or a UDFA, yeah.
So I think those are – I would love to hear from people
who they thought was a combine snub as well.
Josh Cephas, another Shrine guy, didn't get a combine invite.
I think that he could have, but it's such a deep receiver class.
There's only so many that you could take.
So I'm not too surprised with that one but we'd love to hear from
people let us know in the comments who you guys uh thought was maybe the biggest combine snub or
just maybe it didn't even have to be the biggest just somebody that you're like man i'm bummed out
i don't get to now get the official nfl combine measurables or athletic testing or things like
that hit us up in the comments let us know um who the combine snubs are that you uh that kind of
stood out for you all right you ready for your first one let's rock and roll it's a doozy someone's starting off hot
started out all right i'm gonna see if i'm gonna see if you can jj mccarthy over under pick 10 and
a half that is an absolute beauty for a lot of reasons one being that that stretch of Minnesota, Denver, and the Raiders,
all quarterback-needy teams, is at 11-13.
But you can't rule out the idea of one of them trading with the Bears or Jets at 9-10
because they're all staring at each other, the old Western duel.
Man, I'll still say over.
OK, but I think it's going to get pretty.
The blocks can get pretty hot on this one leading up to the draft.
I really McCarthy just screams the guy that were by the time the draft comes,
we're going to have legitimate national insiders saying that he's in play to go top three.
And we're going to have other people that saying, hey, he's probably right where you originally had him,
the back end of round one.
So everything kind of falls in the middle.
Although look at Levis last year.
A lot of people were convinced,
well, most people were convinced Levis was going top 12.
The Levis smoke was pretty crazy last year because we were 24 hours from the draft getting kicked off.
And maybe it wasn't 24 hours from the draft getting kicked off.
And maybe it wasn't 24 hours.
Maybe it was 48, 72 hours from draft day or the draft getting kicked off.
And you remember his odds sharply moved to go number one overall?
Yep.
Like sharply moved.
And we're like, well, what?
Well, wasn't there a – was it the Reddit thread?
I might be mixing him up with somebody else.
I'm pretty sure there was a Reddit thread from somebody that knew Will Levis directly
and said he's been told he was going at some point.
And like, obviously we would never believe that, but it gained legitimate steam.
And what you have to remember with the draft betting market is a lot of it is generated
by two things.
One high profile mock drafts and i'm not
kidding when a guy like daniel jeremiah releases a mock draft and a player is eighth overall that
everybody thought was going 40th overall his over under in the betting market could jump from
38 and a half to 16 and a half. The other thing is the public actually dumping funds into certain bets and moving lines.
And I think Levis is one that, yeah, his line absolutely got moved by a good handle from the public, which you're right, Trevor.
It's absolutely crazy.
I'm going to say under 10 and a half for J.J. McCarthy.
Okay.
I wouldn't be shocked.
You said the number perfectly, by the way, Casino Man.
I mean, just.
If only I could hit on my bets like I'm setting them here.
It's going to be Tampa Bay Trey's Palace soon, not Caesars at this point.
I mean, that's what we're looking at.
Wait, did I tell you about my championship parlay that I have?
You did, but not on the show so i while in vegas i
myself and brad spielberger we we we made championship parlay so essentially
we are betting on the winner of the super bowl the nhl the nba and the mlb so i just picked
all four i picked the chiefs so we're one for we're one for four right there
so i picked the chiefs pick the nuggets for the nba championship i picked the abs for the stanley
cup championship did you go with the orioles like i was begging you to for i did go i did go yes
let's go i went with the orioles so that's my four the last time we talked about it you were about to
be on the way to go do it and you you had it all decided besides baseball. And I was like, I might go Orioles.
So I almost went with the Rangers for- I know, which scared the absolute hell out of me.
For NHL, because I think they have a legitimate shot to do it. But when I got to the sports book,
the Avs and the Rangers had the same odds. That's crazy.
I was like, I would love for Connor to be happy, but the Avs are a wagon.
So I agree with you.
I think the 10.5 is a good number.
I think that that might end up being where the number lands for McCarthy,
and I'm going to say under.
I think that there's too many teams that need a quarterback between
obviously the top three that we talk about with the Chicago bears,
the Washington commanders,
new England Patriots,
but then the giants at six,
the Falcons at eight.
And that's not even mentioning those three teams,
Vegas,
Denver,
and Minnesota,
who are sitting right there, who could very easily trade up
to try to go get that guy over the others that are sitting outside of the top 10.
So I just think the market's too hot.
And we're going to talk about quarterbacks
and where we have them ranked very soon on this channel.
Oh, yeah, it's coming.
A little teaser to the teaser.
And I will just say I liked J.J. McCarthy a lot more than I thought I would.
Okay.
I really did.
And look, we were on this show,
and I was somebody who said during the summer,
he is far away.
He is really far from what he needs to be to be an NFL quarterback.
And I'm not saying if you plop him down in the NFL right now, he'd be great.
But what he did this year, I liked a lot.
We'll get into that more when we do the quarterback episode.
But yeah, I'll go under on 10.5, and you're going over for J.J. McCarthy.
My next one.
Non-Mahomes Super Bowl.
What's the last?
What's the last?
MVP.
Oh, this is easy.
This is easy for me.
Okay.
It's Trent McDuffie.
Nice.
Dude.
I knew you'd have something non-chalk.
Bro, McDuffie was a monster. And mcduffie a lot when he was
coming out of your head i'm a cornerback too i don't know stingley yeah yeah adam over stingley
wow so okay so you had sauce mcduffie stingley right yep i had stingley sauce mcduffie and those
were like very clear first round caliber can start can start in the NFL type of cornerbacks.
McDuffie was targeted seven times in that game,
gave up two catches for like very minimal yards.
It might have been less than 10 yards total
or maybe just 10 yards of perception.
And he has three passes defended.
Like the dude was just so locked down.
It felt like when San Francisco was in a situation where they had to
convert McDuffie was right there locking down the guy that they thought was the primary read that
they built the play around that they thought was going to be the player who was going to get open
he was right there man he had a couple of I would say two to three plays in that game and people
will talk about it all the time of the 60 65 plays that
happen on the offensive side of the ball there's well shoot actually i guess i should say like
over the the over 100 plays that happen in the game coaches will tell you anywhere from three
to five determine the game oh that's it you have over 100 plays that happen. Three to five of them determine who the winner is in the game.
And for me, McDuffie made two to three of those three to five plays
as a reason why the Chiefs ended up winning that Super Bowl.
So I love the growth from McDuffie.
I got to interview him when he was coming through the draft process.
Awesome dude.
Just the way he approached the position was it was so cerebral it was so genuine you could tell that he just
wanted to be great and i ended i i got off that interview with him and i'm like i just this this
dude's gonna be a star and he was in the super bowl and he got a ring for it so trey mcduffie
would be my answer to that he had one of the best combine podiums i've ever attended in terms of because i remember you told me that after you spoke to him so i wanted to hear
him and i made an appointment to get over there and i mean he's just brilliant i forget what i
asked him too i asked him something and he gave me a very very long response it might have been
about tackling because he's one of the best college corner tacklers i've ever seen and he's not big
no he's not big no i mean just a guy that've ever seen. And he's not big. No, he's not big. No.
I mean, just a guy that, you're right, Trevor.
There's so much thought put into everything.
And it makes you wonder, and the Chiefs deserve a lot of credit.
This is something they don't really get a lot of credit for because they have so much other stuff beaming.
I mean, they moved up that year to go get McDuffie.
And it was a defense-altering move.
When you look at the Bills, ended up getting Kyrie Elam,
which has not worked out for Buffalo at all.
Man, did they snipe the Bills for McDuffie.
It's one of the more under-the-radar massive draft pulls
of the last couple of years.
Yes, I would agree.
It really, really is.
100%.
100%.
Who's yours? Do you have one? of the last couple of years. Yes, I would agree. It really, really is. 100%. 100%.
Who's yours?
Do you have one?
I would maybe still lean on giving it to Chris Jones.
I know that's kind of not crazy,
but Jones had a couple reps where I'm like,
wow, he just literally destroyed the play.
He ended up with two quarterback hits,
four more pressures.
His pass rush win rate was right around 18% for the game.
Jones just, it's just insane what he's able to do.
Dude, how about the interior defensive lineman, Purnell?
Oh, Mike Purnell, Jets legend.
Dude, I was like everybody else watching that game.
I was like, okay, who is this dude?
I did not.
I'm going to keep it a buck with you folks.
I did not even know who Mike Pinnell was.
He's an NFL journeyman.
And I Googled him.
He played for, he was undrafted in 2014.
Bears and Jets for sure.
And maybe Patriots.
He played for the Packers from 2014 to 2016. he played for the jets
from 2017 to 2018. he was solid from 2019 to this past season it was patriots chiefs bears falcons
bears again and then chiefs again this season that dude was an animal in the biggest game of the season. He showed up quite literally huge.
I'm not giving him a Super Bowl MVP.
No, but you're right.
Unsung hero.
Unsung hero.
Absolutely the unsung hero.
All right.
Next question.
Again, doozy.
I'm not making it easy on you.
We'll have a discussion.
That's okay.
That's why we do this show.
Can you read this?
Redraft.
Stroud, Young, Levis, and Anthony Richardson.
Yeah.
So pull up the 2023 NFL draft.
And obviously this is with hindsight.
We understand that.
But people ask for these redrafts all the time. And I thought
it would be fun to at least do it with the first four quarterbacks. Because I think the first one
is very obvious. Right. So the Panthers take Stroud. Correct. I mean, right. That's why they
pay me the big bucks, folks. It is. It is. That's why they tune into the show to hear you say that the Panthers should have drafted C.J. Stroud over Bryce Young.
You can only get that take on this platform.
If you've heard it anywhere else, they're copying us. It's plagiarism.
We will sue.
Our lawyers are at the ready.
So in that scenario, now the texans
oh man okay so the texans take richardson okay and then
i'm still okay with and maybe i'll get roasted for this and that's fine
i'm still okay and ballard would
never do this ever but i'm still okay with the colts taking bryce in that scenario okay roast
me all you want we'll see how he does this year if he just completely falls on his face hey you
we all miss but i mean richardson's uh physical gifts were pretty pretty quickly on display at the NFL level.
Yes.
I thought.
Yes, I would agree.
And then Levis.
This is kind of a fun one.
This is a fun one because Levis was really exactly what we thought this year.
Chaotically.
I mean, he made some big plays.
He also really struggled to play in rhythm.
And he's just a total wild man by the way running the football I love us we don't know what he's going to turn into but he still has those traits
that make him promising I think there's one I think there's one if you're if you're staying
in the top 10 that's the only one I thought in the top 10 was the Raiders so that was that's kind of the
obvious one if you're gonna if you're gonna put him somewhere in the top 10 it would be the Raiders
right um if I don't and uh I would have him go Porter was a good pick by the Steelers but I'm
interested in Levis at 32 to the Steelers. Oh, sure.
If he gets that far, yeah, absolutely.
You think he goes a little higher?
I'm looking at the Steelers
at 14.
As much as they like Broderick Jones,
clearly this is a team that, if you're
redrafting here, Pittsburgh
is the least
talked about team that's also going to be
extremely aggressive to get a goal in the top season.
So I'll just say,
I agree with you on the premise of the first three.
Stroud goes one to Carolina,
and Richardson goes two to the Texans,
and I think Bryce goes four to the Colts.
And again, I'm with you.
I'm not totally giving up on Bryce,
but clearly the situation in Carolina was bad.
It was really bad.
But I love Bryce getting to work with Shane Steichen,
just like I liked Anthony Richardson getting to work with Shane Steichen.
I think that situation goes a lot better,
and they get a really good quarterback.
Again, I don't know if Bauer does it,
but we're just redrafting the answers.
Yeah, on our own.
For Levis, yeah, the Raiders are intriguing at seven.
It's mostly intriguing because I don't think Tyree Wilson is great,
to put it nicely.
Sure.
Wasn't his biggest advocate during the draft process,
so it's easy for me to sub him out for Will Levis
since they have a quarterback need.
But I think you could also go to the middle of the first round
and say that, again, hindsight, Washington is 16.
They drafted Emmanuel Forbes.
That's probably the one.
Although you could have put Levis there,
and at least you'd have more hope at quarterback.
All right, so let me throw an unplanned question at you.
Who would you take today on your team, Sam Howell or Will Levis?
Will Levis.
Really? Okay.
I think it's pretty tough.
Yeah, and I don't know.
Maybe I said that more quickly than I should have because I like Sam.
I might take Howell.
But yeah, I'd take Levis.
Okay.
I'd take Levis.
That's what makes them tough, though.
I also just love, I don't know.
Levis is, I love like Levis' fiery personality.
You don't need to be a fiery dude to be a great quarterback in the NFL.
It helps him, though.
I think it's because I've also had the opportunity to talk with Levis a couple of times.
And I genuinely think that dude wants to be great
like he wants to work like he has that work ethic that drive and again I'm not saying that Sam
doesn't I've just seen it from Will so the arm strength quarterback in the NFL he is pretty
legitimately the arm strength like you said he's not afraid to be a battering ram of a runner
Howell has a little bit of that, but I think both Howell's
arm strength and Howell's
athletic ability are
below what Levis's are. That's fair.
So that's why I'd take Levis
over Howell if everything's in a vacuum.
Alright, you ready?
Sure, yes.
A little open-ended one for you.
Name a team
that should trade up. Oh up oh brother where do we begin
um i'll throw a massive curveball at you ready for it okay i wanted you to kind of go outside
the box here rather than saying like denver to nine so i'm not gonna yeah right right
the giants at six there we go go. You know, like I,
I was talking with Steve Palazzolo about this on the NFL show and we were
doing an episode on best case scenarios for each team in the top 10.
And when I got to the giants,
my immediate thought is the best case scenario ranking one,
two,
and three for the giants is trading up to one for Caleb Williams,
trading up to two for Drake May or Jaden Daniels,
trading up to three for Jaden Daniels or Drake May.
You're 100% right.
It's one of those three.
That's the best case scenario.
Daniel Jones has not shown you nearly enough
to one, justify the contract,
two, believe in him moving forward
over one of these rookie quarterbacks
so you can go ahead and get one.
We sit here and we go, ah, wide receiver, offensive tackle,
things like that for the Giants.
If the Giants are bad again this year, this regime might be gone.
It could be over for everyone.
And that feels quick.
It does.
But this is where we are because they signed Jones to that contract.
Now they can get out of it, but are you going to sit here and go,
okay, yeah, get out of the Jones deal,
and then we'll keep you at the helm to go through another one.
No, you're probably pissed off that they went through it in the first place.
Daniel Jones is not a top 10, let alone a top five caliber quarterback.
I think he's top 15.
Right, and I'm being generous by saying those things.
And the reason why I use the stoppers at top five and top 10 is because of another conversation that
we were having when I was on that show. If you don't have a top five, at the very least a top
10 quarterback, you better be doing everything you can to get one. That's the reality that we
live in. Look at the 49ers and the chief Superbow Bowl. Now, of course, Mahomes and Andy Reid,
it's a genuine dynasty.
They're an incredible team,
and they had a wonderful defense.
Steve Spagnuolo was in his absolute bag that game.
But look at the 49ers.
It was an extremely close game,
but they didn't come away with the win
because I don't think they had the quarterback
that could close the gap between them and Mahomes. And I'm not saying that Brock Purdy played terrible. No, he was fine. That
49ers team was stacked. In the salary cap era, I don't know how you get a better team out there
holistically than what the 49ers put together. And if you get a better team, it's marginal.
We're talking about an elite group on both sides of the ball.
Great offensive line.
Great skill position players.
Elite offensive weapon to hand the ball off to him.
McCaffrey and using a lot of different ways.
A defensive line that's full of first-round picks.
The best linebacker in the NFL.
What happened to Dre Greenle obviously sucks.
Yeah.
A good secondary.
Playmakers that are out there being hungry I don't know man it's it's it's I and I look at I look at what the 49ers did
and then I look at the Giants and I'm like what are we doing like you can't be convincing yourself
that you don't need to move up here the Giants should absolutely be one of those teams that is
doing everything that they can to get up to pick
number one two or three in my opinion and it's realistically the shot they have is three
commanders are never letting them into that pick it doesn't sound like the bears are moving
right right right do you have do you have a team that you would cape for
as like uh we need to talk about this team as a team trade no oh
that's a good one i mean i made the question
you would think i would actually think about it that's a that's a good question that's a damn
good question that's a good that's a damn good question there i mean
pittsburgh's interesting pittsburgh is now. Yes, I would agree with you.
Because they need a better quarterback.
I think ultimately they're going to go to the pro market
and hold on to Pickett and let Pickett kind of float around
behind pro acquisition.
But you can't rule out that Tomlin 1 can always get you there.
They have a good roster.
They've improved this roster over the last couple of years with good
drafting,
but they're not in the driver's seat to get one of the top quarterbacks,
but man going from 20,
that's uncharted territory.
It's in terms of that kind of jump in,
in a draft like this.
Yup.
Yup.
I got my next question coming up.
It's a head coaching question. So this will be fun. But
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My next question for you, good sir.
Which new head coach has the best chance to win coach of the year?
So new head coach.
So I will remind you of them.
Jim Harbaugh with the Chargers.
Okay.
Mike McDonald with the Seahawks.
You got Dave Canales with the Carolina Panthers.
Raheem Morris with the Falcons.
Antonio Pierce with the Raiders. Brian Callahan with the Titans,
Gerard Mayo with the Patriots, and then Dan Quinn with the Commanders.
Which one of these new head coaches do you think has the best chance to win
Coach of the Year next year?
I'm going to say Harbaugh, and I know it seems
like an easy layup, but I do want to remind people coach of the year is a award voted on
by human beings. So with coach of the year, a lot of times it's not, if it was just who,
who did the best job this year, Kyle Shanahan, who has never won it, by the way, would have won multiple times by now.
Or Andy Reid or I mean, on and on we go.
It's a story driven award where, you know, look at D'Amico Ryans, right?
I thought D'Amico should have won it this year.
Right.
Like that's why he why he was in the running at the top of the running and everything for so long is that the Texans weren't expected to be good at all.
And they made the playoffs.
He completely turned things around.
So you have to keep in mind, look at the Browns with Stefanski.
The Browns had so much injury and turmoil at quarterback.
It's almost kind of about what did you do compared to expectations and what did you
do in the face of adversity so Harbaugh why he he's still the best option but there's a there's
a couple reasons why he might not win even if the Chargers are good one everybody already thinks
Justin Herbert's good two everybody already expects Jim Harbaugh to be really good so what
does he have to do to actually win coach of the
year? Is it win the division, which is really hard in that division. I just wonder what is
the barometer for him compared to the guys taking over, for instance, Brian Callahan with the
Titans, right? The Titans weren't any good this year. He's walking into a roster that needs a lot
of work. So I'd go with Harbaugh. I would say my dark horse though would be Mike McDonald just because
I think he's going to be an incredible coach. Yeah. I think Seattle still has a good roster.
I think that they have a lot of players that are on the right trajectory, whether they were year
one players last year or year two players last year, that they're getting much better.
So, and I think he's hiring a really good coaching staff. So I would say the dark horse answer to that is Mike McDonald. And one
that I really liked because he might have the best story compared to expectations, but it is a little
tough to pick against Harbaugh, who is also a character with the media that does help you with
this award. Yeah. I think that Harbaugh, I was wondering if you were going to go a different direction. I also think that Harbaugh is the choice at one. I would say
McDonald is two for me. Although I do think Raheem Morris has a shot. Yep. The NFC is pretty open.
It's a good roster. Depending on what happens with them at quarterback. Like let's say they,
let's say they signed Kirk, right?
Okay, you signed Kirk Cousins.
Let's say you draft Malik Neighbors at eight.
Now all of a sudden that offense is sick.
It's Malik Neighbors, it's Drake London, it's Kyle Pitts,
it's a good offensive line, it's Bijan Robinson,
and it's Kirk Cousins facilitating the ball to those playmakers.
Atlanta's offense alone feels like it'd be good enough
to potentially win that
division host a playoff game get into the playoffs and then you look at the defensive side of the
ball i think raheem morris is going to continue to elevate that group which played better than i
actually thought that they were going to last year and they got to get better up front and
i think they're still a work in progress but like Jesse Bates was fantastic for them last year and
I think that the defense just overall
is going to get a bump from Raheem Morris
being there so the Falcons
are a sneaky team
who could really play some
good ball next year and I think put
themselves in that conversation and we've been talking
about Raheem Morris for a while and he also has
a story right was a head coach
when he was 31 with the Buccaneers.
It's been 10 years since then,
over 10 years since he's gotten another chance
to be a head coach.
So he has that story to him as well.
So I would say that those three guys
are definitely the favorites in my opinion.
All right, you want the fun one
or you want the last football one?
No, let's do the last football one
and then we'll do the fun one.
That's what I thought.
All right, have your rapid fire thinking hat on for this one. No, let's do the last football one and then we'll do and then we'll do that's what I thought. All right.
Have your rapid fire
thinking hat on for this
one.
Oh, no.
Oh, boy.
OK.
Dream fits for
Jonathan Brooks,
Xavier Worthy,
Chop Robinson
and Tyler Guyton.
So best fit for the
player in terms of
development. And we can go through this slowly because I did throw a lot at you here. OK. So best fit for the player in terms of development.
And we can go through this slowly because I did throw a lot at you here.
Okay.
So we'll start with Jonathan Brooks.
I think the best landing spot for Jonathan Brooks,
and I did this in a mock draft recently.
Perfect.
I think it's the Packers.
I like that one a lot.
Because the Packers sort of have a running back need.
Oh, they definitely do.
A.J. Dillon has kind of proven that he's a short yardage specialist.
When Aaron Jones has been down,
it's not the same rushing production that he has.
The efficiency does not stay there.
So I think they need an upgrade there no matter what.
And then Jones is back, but his contract is really flexible, I think,
starting next year.
Obviously, he's getting a little bit older.
So I think Brooks, coming into that situation where Aaron Jones is still on the team, Brooks gets to continue to recover from that ACL injury.
And then in 2025, gets to come in as the RB1 for the Packers.
To me, I think that's a, that's a great spot for him.
I like that call out a lot.
So another Texas guy and Xavier worthy,
absolute speed demon.
Um,
probably Buffalo.
Okay.
Right.
Like Gabe Davis leaving him free agency.
Yeah.
Gabe Davis leaving him free agency.
Like let's say that Buffalo wants to go edge rusher trenches
with that number 28 pick in the first round.
I don't think Worthy is going to be a first-round wide receiver,
but when I think of landing spots that would be great for his deep speed,
I think Buffalo could be great, obviously, in an offense with Josh Allen,
and they're looking to continue to unlock that vertical thread.
They're trying to improve from what they had last year.
I think Indianapolis is also a good spot for Xavier Worthy.
They have the ex-receiver in Michael Pittman.
I think they'll bring him back.
They've got the slot guy in Josh Downs.
They have Alec Pierce, but I think they'd like a little bit more there.
And I think that that could be a good landing spot for them as well.
Obviously, a quarterback with an absolute howitzer
of an arm in Anthony Richardson as well.
So I think those are the two that come to mind
immediately for good spots for Xavier Worthy.
Okay.
And then we move to Chop Robinson.
Oh, man.
What's a good spot for chop Robinson? Maybe Philly? Cuz their edge rushers are getting a little bit older.
I don't. They pay Redick. Yeah. What about Detroit? Get a
little speed across from Hutchinson?
Yeah, I obviously don't.
If he pans out, I don't mind Chop because if he pans out,
he's going to be a monster.
So him and Hutchinson as a 1-2 is nasty.
But it's almost kind of like a, okay, best-case scenario. Obviously I think that would work out for maybe any team.
Worst case scenario though,
he's almost just a speed rusher.
Like what you have with James Houston.
Right.
And that's a good point.
Houston didn't have as good of a year this year.
Last year.
And it was,
you know,
it was never going to be,
I don't think he was going to be able to replicate that,
but I'd be a little bit worried about that with chop going to detroit i still like philly more
because i think they're just aging at edge but they got no one smith so if they're gonna put
no one smith at edge they maybe don't need me another undersized guy yeah maybe atlanta
maybe atlanta we'll see what the,
how they view D'Angelo Malone and yeah,
they got Malone too.
Maybe though they still need to edge pass rushers.
That's why they might take one in the top 10.
Who knows?
Houston might be a decent spot to Gernard walks.
Cause if,
cause Gernard,
Gernard to miss some time over the last couple of years,
I was talking with, with Lance airline recently and he was reminding me that, yeah, walks because if because granard granard's missed some time over the last couple of years i was
talking with with lance zirline recently and he was reminding me that yeah granard played well but
he's missed some time due to injury so i don't know if this organization is going to be the one
that's like okay yeah you missed a lot of time due to injury well let's sign you do another deal
because that's the thing that coaches and front office members fear the most is, is, you know,
they say the best ability is availability. So you're not,
you're not making the club in the tub. You cannot make the club in the tub.
So, okay. I'll, I'll, I'll go with,
I'll go with Houston or maybe Philly there for a job.
Tyler Guyton's your last one.
Dallas. I always think Dallas too. I also like the Bengals. Dallas?
I always think Dallas too.
I also like the Bengals.
Jonah Williams is a walk-in free agency. I don't mind the Bengals, but throwing Guyton out there right away,
no matter what, might be tough.
Yeah, I guess it's dream fit for the players.
So you would think of like...
Dallas would be the dream fit.
Somewhere that has a stopgap option. Right right that makes a lot of sense right that makes a lot of sense i like that
one or i also kind of like san francisco that's a great call out yeah uses athleticism in that scheme
right right so yeah i would go dallas or san francisco for teleguide that would be my
well done you ripped through that a lot faster than most would
i'm sweating profusely underneath this hoodie that's what people can't see right now uh we'll
keep it we'll keep it draft centric and i'll give you one here uh shout out to jordan reed who
tweeted this out and i thought it was a really good conversation starter.
So obviously, if you guys aren't following Jordan Reed, you absolutely should be.
And he asked this question on Twitter, which I am now asking you right now.
Who is RB1 and LB1?
I'll start with the latter half.
My linebacker one is Junior Coulson.
Okay.
Who I probably won't shock people.
He was linebacker two
for me coming out of summer.
I expected a really big jump
from him this year.
Who'd you have LB1?
The Clemson linebacker
that went back to school.
Oh, Bear Carter.
Bear Carter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, Bear Carter.
He went back to school.
Coulson,
I mean, he could fly.
You don't even remember
his name anymore.
He's out of the class.
Isn't it amazing?
Out of sight, out of mind.
The guy goes back to school and I'm just like, you in summer it's insane yeah there's only so much room
in this uh not so big brain there's only so much room under that hat folks and a lot of it's got
to be reserved for the hair that's right no three percent brain 97 hair we'll roll with that uh so rb1 is a much more interesting topic because i haven't landed
on rb1 yet the we haven't done the running backs episode yet and it's just a big mess of players
i think ultimately brooks is going to be my rb1 i've liked his tape the best from this year
trivion henderson who i was really high on went back to school. Donovan Edwards went back to school.
I think that there's things to like about Benson and Corum and Braylon Allen,
but I still think at the end of the day, Brooks has the best tape from this year.
He is hurt, but how much can you really hold that against him right now
in terms of draft stock?
The crazy thing about Brooks is he might be my top running back.
And I know you had this in the mock draft, Trevor.
I mean, he might go the end around two.
I don't I don't I don't expect a running back to go in the top 50 picks of this draft.
I know I don't either.
So that'll be a really interesting combo, a really interesting episode, because how we stack, maybe not one, but two through 10.
I mean, talk about the field being wide open.
Yeah, I wonder if Brooks would have made it into the top 50
had he not gotten hurt.
Test well and well enough.
Oh, man.
We're losing them, folks.
No, excuse me.
Sorry, yawned.
I got like three hours of sleep last night.
That's lovely.
Yeah, you love that we're running
we're running it's really spinning with my next question vibes in a dream brother um
no i i i agree with you i think that jonathan brooks is rb1 to me he's clearly rb1
the injury clouds this a little bit but we've seen backs come back from,
you know,
ACL tears.
So it's not,
I don't think it's like a career end or anything,
especially if he goes to a situation where he doesn't have to start right
away.
He doesn't have to think about,
you know,
providing for his family while also trying to learn,
you know,
the,
the,
to have faith in his knee again,
honestly.
So when he was out there and he was healthy,
he's only had one year as a starter.
The injury is tough,
but he doesn't have a lot of mileage on him.
So he's still young and he's a really talented player.
So I think that he's RB1.
Have you watched Jalen Wright yet from Tennessee?
I watched him very early in the year.
And then I was excited for him at the senior bowl
and that didn't happen.
So he's RB2 for me.
I'm running through the draft guide right now. Ta year was tremendous he's rb2 he's got that home run speed man and he
is one hell of a pass protector every team in the nfl is gonna be like yep give me this dude
he's the best pass protector in the class from from the running back perspective in that sense
it's so much of a plus for him like it was so much of a plus for Kyron
Williams when he was coming out two years ago but Wright's a little bit bigger he's a little
bit more explosive you don't have that worry about him LB1 for me I'm gonna be honest
it's very clearly Peyton Wilson off of just I had a feeling you'd go there what a
just a cloudy eval he's gonna be huh because huh? Because he had a knee injury his senior year of high school
where he missed, I think, most of his senior year.
He tore his ACL his true freshman year at NC State.
So he had back-to-back knee injuries.
He had a dislocated shoulder and a torn labrum in 2021.
So it's like, you play a position where you have to be physical
basically every single play.
And so injuries are really tough for linebackers. And he's a little bit older because of it, because he missed time. like you play a position where you have to be physical basically every single play and so
injuries are really tough for linebackers and he's a little bit older because of it because he missed
time he redshirted he had he had to get healthy but when he's out there man he is six foot four
he's got the length he's 240 pounds he's a little bit more 240 642 40 yeah you love to see that for
actually i think you know technically he's 238 is what he weighed in at the senior bowl so yeah maybe you know just a little bit more you're almost there you can
almost host the pod payton wilson but as as a blitzer the long arms the length of the arm like
that he has makes him a very good pass rusher from up the middle or off the edge i thought he had
really good instincts in zone uh i thought he had the explosive movement skills to get sideline
sideline to sideline
and beat ball carriers to the angles when it came to like quarterbacks,
keeping the ball or giving us the running back out of the backfield.
To me, he gave you a lot of what you want to see in linebackers.
And I ended up giving Peyton Wilson a late first,
early second round grade off of film.
Now you have to then factor in injury history so
i don't think he's going to end up being a first round pick but now film alone if somebody picked
him at the back end of the first round as lb1 i go yeah all right i get it i get it because that's
the grade that i gave him so um those are that's my rb1 lb1 situation a lot of discussion there
i'd like for people in the comments to let me know who they
have is their rb1 and their lb1 and we'll uh we'll be able to read those and respond to some of those
too so all right the fun one very simple for you here but very relevant with your lack of sleep
schedule and where we just came back from oh great rate las vegas one out of ten no like no details no nothing just that's it thoughts Las
Vegas okay all right I just I I have a I have a follow-up question am I rating
the city of Las Vegas right in all its everything or am I rating it as a Super Bowl media week city?
Do both. Okay. Just plain Vegas? You don't want to stay there too long, but I like Vegas, man.
I give it an eight or a nine out of 10. Whoa, that's a high grade.
Vegas is fun. I've never really had... Now like now here's the thing i've never been in vegas too long ah both of the previous trip
because this was this was the third time i'd ever been in las vegas and this was draining obviously
because it was a work trip as well so you're trying to blend like work and then going out
with people and all that stuff right right after senior ball when we the the other two times i've been in vegas
we weren't there too long we kind of did everything we wanted to do and by the time we got to that
last day we were all like oh yeah we're ready to go home and it was kind of wake up and feel it
right it was it was like some of the text in your head you're like oh god i got it was that perfect
it was that perfect feeling so um your shine bowl was hosted in Vegas a year ago as well.
So we got to see things outside of just the Las Vegas Strip.
But it's so unique, man.
It's such a unique city.
I'd give it an 8 out of 10.
I would.
And then for hosting the Super Bowl Media Week, I don't know.
I thought, I mean, if you weren't staying at the hotel that was adjacent to where the
event was going on, it'd probably be a bitch.
Right.
So like if you were staying in a different hotel, it's probably like a five or six out
of 10 experience, but I'd say it was like a seven.
I'd say it was a seven or an eight.
I liked it.
Okay.
We're not that wildly different.
I'm higher on it as a Superbowl city.
Oh, okay.
I would almost give it a not and
bias like you i was staying in the hotel that radio row was at so i just walked down every day
i couldn't imagine having to uber over every day but because i did the last super bowl i covered
was miami in 2020 and that that was just you couldn't get anywhere. No, Miami's tough.
Miami's rough.
I love Miami.
I really do.
But as a Super Bowl city, it's the opposite of this.
I really liked Vegas as a Super Bowl city.
I don't really love Vegas as a city as a whole.
And it's probably because the two out of three times I've been there,
or maybe three out of three times, I've been there too long.
Did you go for like bachelor parties? No no i've gone for work every time oh the first time i went i was there for 10 days
oh my goodness oh yeah and you lived yeah i did somehow barely barely and then the last two times it was about five to six, which is still long. Your company allowed you to expense a 10 day trip in Las Vegas.
That wasn't when I worked for NBC.
That's when I worked for Bleacher Report.
We had the studio in Caesars and we shot college football stuff out of it like in August to preview the season.
Dude, Brad Spielberger and I, we went to the same breakfast spot every morning as we were
like walking to the event.
And I would get every morning.
So, I mean, it was just three mornings.
I would get four egg white bites.
You know, like it's kind of like the ones you get at Starbucks, but they're a little
bit bigger.
They're a little bit better.
So, four egg white bites and a thing of overnight oats, which, you know, came with like raspberries and
like all that, whatever. It was a great way to start the day. Okay. How much do you think it was
for four egg white bites and overnight oats? At least $27.
Yeah, it was at least $27. 33 yeah 33 it's it's okay so
i would give it maybe an eight and a half super bowl city out of this first super bowl city because
i thought logistically it was it was really well done there was something to do every night like
literally that was the cool part there was something to do every night like literally that was the cool
part there was something to do every night like went from a golden knights game to the sphere
to great dinner like very enjoyable even just man but like a couple of a couple of the nights like
we pff people were just like hey you want to just like go down to the tables for a little oh
obviously your hotels in the casino it's just very easy you know awesome and this is nothing
against a like the city for people that live there,
because I can't relate to that at all.
I can't rate that.
But just as a city for any trip, non-Super Bowl,
to the point you just made,
it is very difficult as a functioning city.
Like finding water and finding normal food.
It's just, it is, it's Vegas.
It's a big circus.
So everything, everyone there is there for tourism.
So like you said, yes, like $33 breakfast.
That wasn't even an extravagant breakfast.
I'm not, I'm not the biggest Vegas guy, but it serves its purpose, right?
Like that's the thing you need to realize with Vegas.
It is, I think you nailed it. It's a three-day town yes if you're not living there if you're
living there you have the comforts of home that's different correct but if you're visiting
it is a bit chaotic um to function as a normal human and i can go without functioning like a
normal human for about three days five i'm like yeah that's i'm gonna i'm gonna crumble
that's very that's very much pushing it we'll have to we'll have to get nate tice on the show
because nate lives he's a local now yeah and we'll uh we'll ask him what it's like to actually live
in las vegas okay this was this is a totally off the wall one um this is a throwback to fan friday
days from the lockdown nfo draft somebody asked us this and i remembered it out of nowhere as i was thinking of random questions and it was funny because it's a food
one and i feel like it would uh bring up some some good food debate so wait are you a pancake
or a waffle guy right do you waffles first but i do enjoy it's fine that's fine that's fine we're
good we're good we're good we're good okay um the first word is top top five toppings for pancakes and waffles wow yeah all right
top five so they they count for both okay do i have to rank them in order yeah you gotta rank
them in order we can we we can talk it out we can talk it out number one is butter okay just a classic butter. Two is syrup. Okay. All right.
All right.
Three is chocolate chips.
Nice.
Obviously infused in the waffle or the pancake.
Yeah, sure.
We'll count it as a topping.
Four is a tough one between banana and strawberry.
Oh, see, yeah.
Yeah, this is where I start to break.
I think I'll go wow we've got when i was younger it was waffles but i've grown to really enjoy strawberries as
i've gotten older yeah i think i'll go strawberries for bananas five now i have to recircle and make
sure i didn't snub anyone like Carson Steele.
Who's the Carson Steele?
Who got Kobe Turner out of this?
Man.
Who's the Kobe Turner of pancake toppings?
To me, once whipped cream comes into the equation, you're eating dessert.
I'm still counting this as breakfast.
I could do chocolate chips for breakfast because I like a little bit of sugar to get me kick-started.
Okay.
But whipped cream, now we're just eating i'm eating dessert i had dinner
it's 11 o'clock it's dessert like that's yeah yeah so i'm out on that i don't like uh pecans
okay walnuts i i don't i don't like i don't like nuts on pancakes no no they don't enhance it for
me no the consistency is off all right can i ask
you a question here please that's why we do no notes how do you feel about fried chicken and
waffles it's one of my favorite breakfast dishes of all time is it so the problem is people can
really fuck it up let me tell you that so i have gotten away from ordering it as much as i used to
uh-huh because of fear
there's there's a couple times where i look at it on the menu i look around the place and i go
it's just not the place for this if it's not really done right
it's it can it can go the wrong way you live in the south so i feel like i do and it's a common dish there are a lot of places
that have it i just think it's one of those foods that's better in theory okay then actual execution
here's the problem with it obviously fried chicken at its highest form is fried chicken like you're
holding on to the drumstick fried chicken yeah that is fried chicken at its highest form is fried chicken. Like you're holding onto the drumstick fried chicken. That
is fried chicken at its highest form. The problem is that does not mesh well with waffles. The
chicken almost needs, it needs to be boneless fried chicken, like battered chicken tenders
almost because that's, that's what, yes. The point is you cut it all together and you do the syrup and sriracha
and all this stuff that's the best way to have chicken and waffles but the problem is a lot of
people get screwed up in the head because you think the best form of fried chicken is real
fried chicken but it doesn't work with waffles because the point is the syrup the waffle and
everything you have on it is supposed to mix with the chicken you don't eat your fried chicken and
then eat your waffles that doesn't make any sense that's not the point of the dish right so this
is the crossroads a lot of eateries are are dealing with and why it can get a little screwy
and i think that's why ultimately i think it's better in theory because sometimes you'll get
you'll get served like a like a fried chicken um sometimes it's a drum but other times it's just like a thigh.
Yeah.
Like it's very odd.
It's very odd.
Yeah.
And it's like,
now I got to cut around the bone a bunch.
Now it doesn't work.
You know,
now I'm working too hard.
And so,
and it's not the way to really eat real fried chicken.
So it should in theory,
and this would not,
the problem is people wouldn't order it as much as I can't do this.
It should be called chicken tenders and waffles. It should. Sorry do this. It should be called chicken tenders and waffles.
It should.
Sorry.
Yes.
It should be called chicken tenders and waffles.
It was chicken strips.
Yes.
So when I lived in Hoboken, this place used to that I used to go to, they would make it
that way.
So it would be chicken strips with like it was like sriracha style chicken said like
a very good flavor that mixed well with the
sweetness of syrup and i loved it but then yeah you go to a couple places that do it you know
and you like you said you get a chicken thigh and you're like i like the standalone chicken thigh
but i don't like it with chicken and waffles because this isn't really what i was thinking of
chicken waffles very uh very delicate dish when done right 10 out of 10 i think my power ranking for waffles slash pancake
toppings would be butters one okay good i didn't know if we'd align on that yeah you have that
butter banana is two wow big banana guy dude i love sometimes i'll sometimes i'll make two eggos and i'll cut up banana and i'll put banana in between
and i'll get like an egg sandwich go move dude it is elite so yeah bananas two flavor profiles
elite i think strawberry is two chocolate chip or sorry butter is one banana is two strawberries three chocolate chip is four
syrup is five for me i have gotten away from syrup as i've gotten older yeah i have to have it on
like french toast and if i could if i could swap out whipped cream with syrup i would okay you
wouldn't even make my top five wow wouldn't even't even make the top five. I'm glad because I align with you on this.
I'll never age out of Eggos.
Like, obviously, you love like a real Belgian waffle.
Yeah.
But that's just not possible all the time.
We have things to do and places to be.
I could crush Eggo.
I will crush Eggos until the end of time.
Yeah.
Alyssa got mad at me, understandably so, because I ate the last Eggos like two and i didn't i didn't have time to go to the store within the next it's a
big issue six hours and she woke up the next morning she's like did you eat my eggos because
she had bought them i was in the wrong oh you were like you're wrong i was totally in the wrong
but my you know my carb count for the day was low i had to get the carbs up saw the eggos there
made the eggos so your boy messed up opening the freezer now we try to now we try to now we try to
go to costco for it because costco's they give you like 85 eggos so before i lived with kristin
and i i lived with one of my best friends friends from my childhood and I went to college with him.
We would always try to mastermind.
Gabriel Murphy situation.
100%.
Which one of you?
Which one of you?
Who didn't make it to the combine?
Good question.
We always when we would go to Costco or BJ's, we would always try to mastermind.
Like, do we have enough freezer room on this trip to fit the 80 pack of Eggos?
And we'd sit there and look at each other forever and be like,
I think if we take them out of the box and we align them a certain way,
like Tetris,
we play Tetris with the freezer.
Yes.
Yeah.
That was it.
Now I'm,
I will admit like there are a lot of things I draw a hard line in the sand
on or I fight for like really fight for.
I don't fight kristen on
on the 72 pack of eggos i mean it's just not it's not feasible it's not feasible anymore
like it's you gotta understand i will leave them all that's the thing i cannot per ego is lower i
cannot wait to have a house strictly to have a second freezer like the like the garage freezer oh my god when i get that i'll just i'll
be on cloud nine the meats it's just the amount of it's gonna be it's gonna be straight red meat
yep and it goes that's it that's it maybe a couple pints of like real good ice cream that
you keep away from the main main freezer but mostly just mostly just red meat and egg dude speaking of
speaking of ice cream and this is for this is for another episode we're not going to get into this
alice and i just got a ninja creamy you know the thing where you can like make have you ever seen
this no i know the brand ninja yeah so they have this they have this device oh they've upped their
game this contraption called the creamy where you can make your own ice cream at home and you can make like protein ice cream so it is my it is my goal somebody
asked me this in the comments in like two weeks okay it is my goal in life to make a protein
healthy mcflurry recipe if you crack the code to that,
I think you deserve the Pulitzer Prize of whatever food is.
I'll drop the recipe in the comments
whenever that happens.
We need to have it.
I think you just right away
get a patent on it.
Yeah.
And distribute.
And immediately just put a
$1.5 million yacht on the chase card, on the credit card.
100%.
Don't even wait for the funds to come in.
I'll be good for it.
Yeah, the second I get this recipe.
Buy and name it.
What would you name a boat if you got it?
No, that's got to be another no notes.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe that'll be my next one.
We got to keep the people.
Yeah, we got to keep the people coming back.
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The teaser that we had at the beginning of the show that we kind of not so teased or gave it away is quarterbacks.
Quarterback ranking episode is coming early next week.
And then just to, you know, give you guys a peer behind the curtain.
I'm doing a little I'm doing a little getaway before the combine.
So I won't be around.
So I'm actually recording a car. Yeah. Well, yeah well yeah i'm getting the yacht i'm going out on the
yacht um so i'm recording two episodes with pff's very own brad spielberger and we're going to go
through every team in the nfl over the span of two episodes we're going to break it up into afc and
nfc and we're going to go through every single team and tell you whether they they are going to break it up into AFC and NFC. And we're going to go through every single team and tell you whether they are going to be more in on free agency or the NFL draft for their specific needs.
So we'll kind of update the team needs pre-combined, pre-free agency. And we'll talk about,
okay, does this team have a lot of cap space? Are they going to be keen on free agency or
are they going to be looking more towards youth, the NFL draft to fill those needs?
So those two shows are going to be a good time.
But Connor and I obviously have one more show for you before we get to that point.
And it's going to be the quarterback episode.
Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here?
Nope.
Can't wait.
Been watching them all week.
A lot of it's kind of, you know, reevaluating.
But some of it's not.
Some back-end guys really diving into, you know, deep dive for the first time.
So I'm excited for the show, man.
It'll be great to really talk about a quarterback class
that is kind of stealing the spotlight of this draft.
I know, man.
We even talked about it in this episode.
There's going to be so many teams that are looking to potentially move up
for quarterbacks, and we'll tell you early next week.
I think it's going to be a Monday release.
We'll tell you which quarterbacks we think could be worth it
for some of those teams.
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