NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 253. Final Mock Draft for 2024 NFL Draft

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers team up to give you their final predictive mock draft — including everything they’ve heard — for the 2024 NFL draft ...

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Starting point is 00:00:37 It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast in this episode it is the final predictive mock draft for the 2024 NFL draft season here on this channel so many times over the last month Connor and I have given you our what we would do mock draft sometimes we've had some great friends along the way to tell us what they would do.
Starting point is 00:01:06 But this is it. This is the last one. And we're not going, you know, odds and evens, switching off. We're teaming up for this one. This is a full unified NFLSC predictive mock draft right before round one gets kicked off. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock
Starting point is 00:01:35 Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers joining you guys on Draft Week, baby. You already heard it in the early episode that we had this week. The top 200 episode, if you guys missed it, go check it out on the youtube channel it's pretty fun connor and i i'm gonna be honest connor this is fair right we went off the rails i mean there you caught you said what a stupid podcast this is i think like an hour and a half into the show we have yeah that was fresh off of me just finishing my top 301. And it's like, I haven't slept. I haven't ate like a normal human in six weeks. We podcast all the time for hour after hour.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I've completely lost my mind. And it was a blast. It's my favorite open ever. I was going to say, I hope that podcast was a peer behind the curtain or like full. We say it all the time. This podcast, like the full transparency. I enjoy doing this podcast a lot. I hope that you do it as well.
Starting point is 00:02:28 That was truly like a, we're so loopy. We've done so much content for the last like week and a half. Here's just, I'm talking NFL draft, my buddy, anything that comes into my head, I am saying out loud like Ron Burgundy. And it felt like that was the episode that it was. I said to Kristen after recording it, I was like, I'm starting to feel like DiCaprio
Starting point is 00:02:47 in Shutter Island. I'm not sure if you've seen that, but like truly on the brink of like, I have no idea who I even am anymore. Scary time. Yeah, I should have just given you a, so what do we do now, boss? You know, at the end.
Starting point is 00:03:01 It would have been perfect. It would have been perfect. All right, so on this episode yes we gave you the big board episode this episode we promise is going to be just as fun we're going to dig into all the details as we give you our final predictive mock draft for the 2024 NFL draft normally Connor and I go back and forth it's odds or evens it's this or that as we run through a full first round mock draft but today we're teaming up we're teaming up to give you all of the insight, the feelings, the vibes, the sources to what we think these teams are actually going to do. For the Colab Mock Draft Series, it was all about what we would do. Now it's about predicting what the NFL is going to do.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Connor, very excited about this one. Obviously, I know that you've got a lot of good friends from around the league who either cover teams or within the league as well. This is, again, fun for me because I'm the same way and we get to collaborate here with what we're hearing to come out with this first round mock draft. It's that time of year, baby. I'm excited for this one. This is going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Me too. It's the one where we truly get to work together. We did this last year. We had some hits. I think more importantly, we get to explain the process and talk through scenarios. I feel like so much food oriented and i think this is a process of hey we might be wrong about what the titans do at seven but we're gonna talk through different scenarios and how we got there and actually try to inform a little bit of the build-up to that moment yep it's it's it's these mock drafts with a lot more context and a lot more conversation. So excited to get it going. Let's pull out the PFF mock draft simulator and we can do exactly that. So we got a first round picking all the teams here. Look, we can do trades in this mock.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I don't know how many we're going to have happen. I can tell you how many I had in my, my final one. So before we recorded this, I submitted my final mock draft to NBC. I had one, I had one trade and I know there'll be more, but there's definitely going to be more. There's going to be more than one. But when you start just trying to predict five different trades, like you could throw your mock draft completely off the rails. So I tried to, I tried to really land like, okay, this player might not make it here, but he's a good fit with the team. And I even write in the blurbs like, Hey, I think this
Starting point is 00:05:23 team's a candidate to move out, up, all this and that. And we can do as many as you want here, but it's just one of those things where the final one, where you're trying to just be right about predictions, it is tough to just predict more than a handful of trades. Yeah, look, I agree with you completely. If you ask me how many trades I think are going to happen round one, honestly, I'd guess like three or four. Like, I think a lot of these I think are going to happen round one, honestly, I'd guess like three or four.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Like I think a lot of these bad boys are going to happen here in the first round. But for a predictive mock, it's hard to do all those, right? It's hard to actually do all of those trades. Instead, you want to think about what a team might be doing if they are actually on the clock at their pick. So we have the freedom to do trades here. I'm interested to see if you're really compelled, maybe in the one spot that you said
Starting point is 00:06:09 that you had a trade in your written mock if we get to that point. But let's kick it off. I don't think that this has to be overly complicated with number one overall. It feels like it's been wire to wire the same way. You just mentioned it. It's a free space.
Starting point is 00:06:21 It's Caleb Williams going number one overall. And I think the draft really starts at number two here with washington because you know if you're somebody who cares a lot about what las vegas thinks and not the raiders i mean the giant casino is built to the heavens if you care what they think they seem to be really honing in on jayden daniels is the number two overall pick here connor what do you think i think so I think it's pretty clear it felt like there was some mini hurdles here I mean Jaden has even even like Rossini wrote a good piece on the athletic today and that you know a lot of the quotes in the tweet was that you know we know he would love to be back with Antonio Pierce Antonio Pierce recruited him to Arizona State right like there's a relationship there any quarterback would
Starting point is 00:07:04 like to go play under Kevin O'Connell's offense in Minnesota and throw to Justin Jefferson. Like this is the NFL draft. It's not free agency. And I had heard Trevor that even after, you know, like the agent quote tweeted some stuff about the top golf and all the quarterbacks there at once. I heard after that things really smoothed over. The visit was fine.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I think Jaden Daniels is going number two, and I would be pretty stunned by anything else at this point. Yeah. You know, even though Drake May in his interview with Kevin Clark said that he felt like he was swinging it better than anybody with the top golf. That's probably right. With the top golf trip. Apparently that maybe is not the biggest piece of the pie when it
Starting point is 00:07:46 comes to evaluating the quarterbacks here in this clash for Washington and it does you know I I think that we've had this debate for months now of like okay does does Cliff Kingsbury of the off as the offensive coordinator does that mean a lot in this scenario because if it does then maybe Jaden does have that immediate connection or that easier connection, I think, with the commanders. I did some research on some numbers earlier this morning. We talked about the things that Jaden does well versus what he doesn't, and I don't want to necessarily say that he can't throw over the middle. He just was not asked to do it very often.
Starting point is 00:08:19 When he was at LSU this past year, he had 30 attempts between 10 and 19 yards down the field in between the numbers that true intermediate middle of the field he had 30 passes out of 400 that were in that area that's extremely low percentage of your throws and when you look at Cliff Kingsbury's offenses well a lot of his offenses were predicated around outside the numbers throws you know I looked from 2019 to 2022 the years that Kingsbury was a head coach with the Arizona Cardinals. They were 23rd in the NFL over that time in throws over that intermediate middle of the field. They just didn't ask their quarterbacks to do it a lot. So
Starting point is 00:08:57 a lot of this stuff is pretty much tailor-made to what Jaden does well. And so I can understand why there is a push in that way for him to be the number two overall pick he had the best year in 2023 the styles comps the rushing ability I agree with you I think we need to go Jaden Daniels here at number two in our predictive mock now do you think that that means that May goes number three here I do the New England Patriots yeah I think it would have been even more clear-cut if they took May and then Jaden was there at three. Like, New England, I think, would have ran that card in. I just think Trevor at three
Starting point is 00:09:30 because it sounds like the Giants really love Drake May, as they should. If you look at what Brian Dable does and what he likes. Vikings, too. Vikings, too. Sure, but at the end of the day, New England has to be thinking, if Brian Dable and Kevin O'Connell like Drake May, who are we to trade out of here and pass on him?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like, you ever wonder that? I'm sure that's the first thing Robert Kraft asked. He's like, well, these guys that are doing a better job than what we've done lately are in on them so i think i think the patriots are taking drake may and i think there was a lot of ownership influence to get take a quarterback and maybe they do get cute and maybe they do flip out a couple spots and try to take one of the next guys but when you just apply logic like it's just that just feels so that feels like taking the no tolls route like you're like you get in the car
Starting point is 00:10:26 with your dad and he's like ah like we're gonna go this way and you're like why did we add 75 minutes onto the trip like this is just really just doesn't make any sense that's that would be trading out it's a scenic route connor you're seeing america you're right 100%. I've been in many of those car rides. So I think the Patriots take Drake May at three. I do too. And I've said it before on this podcast, and I keep going back to it. I don't think that Gerard Mayo says after his introductory press conference,
Starting point is 00:10:58 we're going to take a very important player at a very important position. Sorry, a very talented player at a very important position. And I'll let you fill in the blanks he's talking about a quarterback back in January and the only way that they say that is if they feel confident with all three quarterbacks in this draft knowing that they're picking at number three Jaden Daniels Drake May and Caleb Williams if one of those three is on the board I cannot imagine they trade out of it I know I I really can't I get it you know Elliot Wolf's been kind of mysterious with oh you know they're gonna take calls and and they certainly could trade back
Starting point is 00:11:29 and yeah that's true but in my opinion the only factor here that would have taken me away from drake may from the patriots if he was on the board, is Robert Kraft loved Tom Brady, right? Tom Brady made him a lot of money. Tom Brady played football at the University of Michigan. If Tom Brady were to sit there and really advocate with Robert Kraft for J.J. McCarthy, like if Brady really believed in McCarthy, and I have no idea if this is true or not,
Starting point is 00:12:07 but again, this is the only way that I would have found it to be not Drake May at number three, is if Brady really caved for JJ McCarthy to Robert Kraft and Kraft went, you know what? Last time we got a good Michigan quarterback, it worked out pretty well for us. Let's go JJ McCarthy here. So unless he were to really override that decision because of some sentimental connection I also think that it's going to be
Starting point is 00:12:30 Drake May here so I think we should go with him at number three I'm with you all the way we see eye to eye on the first three picks and I would imagine we do the same for pick number four but I'll kind of leave that in your lap like it, it feels like Monty Austin for would prefer to take the floor here. And who has a better floor in this draft than Marvin Harrison jr. You know, did you read Bruce Feldman's NFL draft confidential from the athletic? It's a lot of, a lot of sources,
Starting point is 00:13:00 you know, whether it's scouts or offensive assistants or i'm pretty sure it was not it came out like not recently right no i think it was like not this week i'm saying within the last week for sure but anyways anyways so he talks about why he actually opens up the piece saying okay i was originally going to talk about quarterbacks to start this off because quarterbacks obviously are the thing that we talk about but then but then he said and then i started to talk about these wide receivers to people within the league and i had to kick off my article by talking about that because he had way more people than he thought he was going to who have malik neighbors as wide receiver one in this draft like we're
Starting point is 00:13:41 talking about wide receiver coaches we're talking about assistant coaches we're talking about wide receiver coaches. We're talking about assistant coaches. We're talking about scouts that he interviewed. So many of these guys have Malik Nabors as wide receiver one in this draft. And because of that, and because of Monti Asenfort's willingness to trade like we saw last year, I don't think the Cardinals are picking it for.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Interesting. saw last year i don't think the cardinals are picking it for now interesting i don't really know what team makes sense here that's the so this is the issue i always run into because daniel jeremiah dane brugler albert brayer y'all listening to this podcast you know those names those are guys who are very plugged into the league. Yeah. Jeremiah tweeted out, I don't really think, actually I think this was a quote from an interview that he did. He said, I don't think the Giants are in on J.J. McCarthy. I don't think that he is.
Starting point is 00:14:37 In New York, I've heard the same thing for whatever it's worth. So you hear the same thing. Yeah, I've heard that before. Bruegler said that he heard the same thing. So we can't just sit here and go, okay okay well the Vikings are going to trade up for McCarthy because McCarthy's left no well sorry the Giants the Giants to be the one to trade up is what I really meant to say because then the Cardinals don't have to move back that far now the bigger question to me then becomes okay well are the Vikings? Because if the Vikings are in on J.J. McCarthy, which
Starting point is 00:15:05 I'm going to be honest, I think the Vikings want May. And if May is not available, I am not convinced that the Vikings trade up to four or five. Same. I heard the Vikings did not. Here's what happened with that.
Starting point is 00:15:21 They acquired pick 23. So every single person in the media said well now they have to trade up and i get i get that logic when they first did it that was my logic and then when i made calls two weeks ago about it like reliable people were like they did that to have the ability to trade up right roger guesstime right of. They were like, they were like. Anybody who didn't listen to the last episode, just like nearly cracked their car. And you're not getting an explanation.
Starting point is 00:15:53 You are not getting an explanation. You have to go back and watch the first 40 seconds. You heard us right, Audra Guestamay. So they don't have to move. What's the worst case? The Vikings come out around one with two good players? Oh, no. Like, how did this happen?
Starting point is 00:16:08 So that is an underrated part of this that I don't think enough people are talking about. The Vikings made that trade. But you got to realize, good organizations don't make deals before deals because they understand that if something falls through, they've absolutely screwed themselves over. The Vikings only make that deal with the Texans to get 23 if they are genuinely comfortable staying at 11 and 23. And I think they are. I think they are too. Because this draft class is good. It's a good class.
Starting point is 00:16:49 You don't know if next year's class is going to be good. In fact, early reports say it's not as good as this class. It's not this one. Yeah. So why would you not want two first-round picks in this class? That's where I'm coming from. So that is where I go. My gut says Arizona's not picking it for but the reports are that the Giants aren't interested aren't that interested in JJ McCarthy and the Vikings really wanted May and are comfortable enough if they don't get them to
Starting point is 00:17:19 still pick at 11 and 22 so who's trading up to four i don't know this is the issue trevor i i don't have the and if you're arizona can you go back to 12 i don't you can go i wouldn't you can you can go back to 12 because i think you have the flexibility to okay we just traded from 4 to 12 now we've got way more extra ammunition to trade back up from 12 that even if they wanted to get to five right you could trade you could trade back up to five and do that in theory you could that is the monte thing right right that's interesting it's like having a sandwich name it's like having a sandwich named after you having that draft maneuver named after you it's the monte yeah i'll take a monte no mayo, this phone, phone's crossed.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It's like, yeah, this is a big DiCaprio pod today. It's like Wolf of Wall Street when he's just selling penny stocks over and over again. Like Monty's just making moves, making moves. All right, you have inspired me. I need to clip that tonight because if he makes a move tomorrow night, I'm clipping that. And it's just him on the phone selling that bullshit stock to that guy for like $40,000.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Absolute garbage. That's going to be Monty Austin Ford. I'll take 10,000 shares of this penny stock. He's like convincing him. This is a surefire quarterback that has both all pro and playoff potential. Like he says, it's got both civilian and government and military potential. You and I like that movie way too much. I think about that movie all the time.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And I feel like a lot of people are like, that movie is stupid. I like that movie way too much. And I feel like a lot of people are like, that movie is stupid. I like that movie way too much. And clearly you share the appreciation as I do. All right. So I just want to be on record that I feel like my gut tells me Arizona doesn't make this pick. But after talking it out with you, you should probably just pick Marvin Harrison here. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I mean, it's safe money. You're not going to push the Malik agenda. It's weird because I get it. There's a lot of people I really respect that have talked about this. I know because I co-hosted with Sims this time of year plenty of times. I believe on his pod he's talked about it. I know he had neighbors as his number one. I know Lance lance zerline has
Starting point is 00:19:45 tweeted before anyone like hey a lot of people like malik too like this isn't cut and dried far away marv and you brought up you know feldman's piece i just i think there's also like a little bit of a perception thing with arizona where they're like are we going to be the team to pass on marvin harrison jr like do we want to be that team? Like, that's real. People laugh at that stuff, but that's, it's not as real with football people. It's very real with owners. Because then if you're wrong, they go down and they go, well, you're fired because you thought you were smarter than everyone else and didn't do this.
Starting point is 00:20:17 So I still think it's Marv. I understand, though, why this, like, why Malik is a sleeping giant in this scenario. Let's do, let's do Marvin Harrison Jr. then as our prediction here. I still, you know, because here's another thing. I go back to how Marvin Harrison Jr. handled this draft season. And part of me really does think that some team representative picking very high, whether it was Arizona or not, was like, hey, buddy, you don't need to do anything. That's interesting. Like, we're going to pick you.
Starting point is 00:20:57 We don't care what you run. We don't care all of this stuff. You don't have to do all of this stuff. We're going to pick you. That's really interesting. I wonder if that happened. We'll go MHA here at number four for the Arizona Cardinals, but trade could be obviously very interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Trade conversation is still right here with the Los Angeles Chargers at number five. Right. You know, who's trading up for what? I know, because the Chargers, I'm still locked in on O-line for them. I'm going to be honest, man. I think it's O-line. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I think it's O-line. I'm not... Yeah, you think it's all... Go ahead, go ahead. Well, I mean, if they take neighbors, like, good for them. I think neighbors is worth this pick. Let me just be clear about that.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I don't see any indication that they'll just take Malik neighbors here. Now, who the O-line is, I think, is where this conversation becomes extremely convoluted. Mm-hmm. I kind of think it's Latham. Me too. He was who I put in my written mock draft. I think he's who I am also going to have in my written mock draft. I think it's going to be Latham.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Mauling right tackle that plugs in. Here's why. And I think, look, Charger fans are going to be mad at us. And obviously, we're just kind of trying to predict here. So don't necessarily shoot. Yeah, I wouldn't do this. I don't know what you want me to say. This isn't what I would do.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Yeah, yeah. Shoot Connor, obviously. Don't shoot me. Look, Jim Harbaugh wants to run the football, right? Jim Harbaugh also wants to run like a smash mouth style of football. Wants to run a lot of counter, a lot of man, a lot of gap scheme stuff. Yes. I understand that Chargers fans for a long time have been like trey pipkins is fine like you can leave him at right tackle he
Starting point is 00:22:51 is fine trey pipkins pff run blocking grade on man gap blocking concepts last year was 35.7 it's just not his game he is not that mauler at right tackle that you have to really set the tone and set the edge as an offensive tackle running the football north to south he's just not that smash mouth type of an offensive lineman jc latham is he absolutely is that's that is what he is all about and the the it started a couple of weeks ago, the whispers of Latham. You talked about it on this show a couple of weeks ago, the whispers of JC Latham.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And I don't know whether it's at number five or if it's them trading down, but I think we should put Latham to the Chargers. Easy agree for me. Easy agree for me. It's just, I was sitting there smiling during your rant, and i get it like pipkins is better than the general public realizes but it's funny picturing jim harbaugh standing in the room like the the solo man meme just above everyone going we can't take jc latham
Starting point is 00:23:59 we have trey pipkins and the room just applauds and goes crazy and says, yeah, we have Trey Pipkins and everybody like the happy music and credits roll down on the draft. All right, let's do it. We're locking it in. Latham's at five giants now at six. So McCarthy is still on the board, obviously,
Starting point is 00:24:21 but you and I talked about, we don't think McCarthy is going to be the guy for them at six. No, I think this would be Malik neighbors, in my opinion. What do you think? Malik or Rome, I truly – Good point. I don't know who they're going to like better. We've talked about it on the show.
Starting point is 00:24:38 If you want the guy who's got more, like, standout elite traits, you're going to pick neighbors. But if you like the wide receivers in your room Rome gives you a prototype that you don't have so you view him as more of a compliment and I think that they would probably see an all-pro ceiling in both of these players so if that's being the case I'm gonna I would say Malik here all that to say like I would still say Malik here. All that to say, I would still say Malik because I genuinely think a lot of people in the league are split with neighbors or Marvin Harrison Jr.'s wide receiver one,
Starting point is 00:25:12 and I don't think we're having those same conversations with Romo Dunze. So if the Giants were to pick Rome at six, they would be, it seems like, one of just a few teams that would have him above Malik neighbors. Whereas the other way around, I'm a lot more confident. Yeah. For me,
Starting point is 00:25:31 it's, it's Malik neighbors. I understand like there's something about Rome. That's very presidential the way he carries himself and ever like that. And the giants definitely gravitate at times towards guys like that. But when you look at what Dable wants to do on offense and the ability of neighbors to line up everywhere and use them in motion and be this explosive player
Starting point is 00:25:51 with them without the ball, I just can't see. Don't get me wrong. I can see a world where they talk themselves into a dunesay, but I will definitely gravitate towards neighbors in this spot at six. I would agree. Ten years after they drafted another LSU wide receiver who worked out pretty well for them.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Ten years ago. A decade later. God. Malik neighbors to the Giants at six. Titans at seven. Easy peasy, right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Outside of a trade down, I think so. so yeah and they will answer the phone here i've heard that but it's a weird spot i guess you could argue with both atlanta and them interesting and answering the phone like is there a better bargain here for one of the big three from 11 to 13 to come into this spot so and here is he this is this is my um big brain i i guess i should say like outside shot for a trade up i do look at seven and eight similarly to you and i think that both of these teams want to trade down um i look at seven and eight similarly to you. And I think that both of these teams want to trade down. I look at the Colts at 15. And I understand that Ballard has not often traded up. I read an article from Zach Hicks on Sports Illustrated that looked over the Bauer trades that he's made as general manager since 2017.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And it was as I expected because i wanted to actually look up the numbers to this and it was what i thought ballard doesn't really trade up he's kind of like jason light in that regard he's only traded up four times over the last what is this now seven years and none of them have been in the first round and instead he's got 11 trade down so like ballard always likes to trade down like ballard's even ballard's even said himself like i i just like to trade down but you have shane steichen said himself, like, I just like to trade down. But you have Shane Steichen as your offensive head coach now. You drafted Anthony Richardson at four last year.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You re-signed Michael Pittman. You drafted Josh Downs. You brought back Jonathan Taylor. The offensive line's getting better. Like, you are clearly on an offensive emphasis here. You've got the chance to trade with Tennessee, who doesn't have a third-round pick right now at number seven, you could give them a third-round pick and move up and go get Brock Bowers. Like a guy that truly reshapes your offense in an incredible way for Anthony Richardson.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And I wonder if they do it. I don't want to predict that here on this show. Right. But I just want to throw that out, that I think the Colts could be a sneaky team that never really trades up to just because of where they are in their winning window and where they're at right now and watching what the Texans did last year and obviously with the Jags still having Trevor Lawrence and being able to turn it around at any moment with him, you look at those teams and you go, we've got to stay paced with them.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And we drafted a quarterback of four overall to be able to do that. Let's give him another elite talent in Brock Bauer. So I wonder if that ends up happening. Ultimately, it's kind of hard to predict trades, like you said, just for accuracy standpoint in the integrity of the mock. So if not, then I think it's got to be Joe Alt, right? Yep. Easy enough.
Starting point is 00:29:15 No objections from you. Now, what do you think about the Falcons at eight? I think, obviously, it goes back to the combo we just had where they're going to make calls probably from 11 to 13. But at the end of the day, if I'm picking a player here, I just lean to Dallas Turner. Every time I look at the way Raheem Morris wants to use that kind of player,
Starting point is 00:29:41 the athleticism, what they need, the fact that they're most likely going to be the first team to take a defensive player in this draft. I'm sure they can potentially get Turner at 11 to 13, maybe, but I don't know if they'll find the capital they want to move out of this spot. I just connect to those two all the time. So I just looked this up.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's now even on FanDuel between Dallas Turner and Laatu Laatu to go number eight. They are even odds. Wow. That's a big rise for Laatu. They are both plus 250 now. Yeah. It's huge. That's huge. Wow. Even. Crazy. for lots who they are both plus two 50 now. Yeah. It's huge. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Wow. Even crazy. Yes. Uh, I have to, um, I have to plug in my computer. So is that crazy to hear that with lots of you? And I'm going to go plug in my computer and,
Starting point is 00:30:39 we're just going to make it movie magic and we're just going to keep the podcast rolling. So goodbye, Trevor. Goodbye. I think it's not crazy because here's the thing with Latu. Like Latu isn't universally in the top 15 of mock drafts and has nothing to do with talent. Everything with Latu is there's just varying comfort of his medicals. Latu is the guy and I won't get too far into that road.
Starting point is 00:31:06 That's not really something I'm comfortable with broadcasting. But the easiest way to put it is there's different comfort levels team by team with his medical situation. There's not really a lot of variance in how people evaluate the player. The evaluation of the player is that he's a really good pass rusher. That is the very rare close to pro ready pass rusher that's very uncommon for a prospect it's a it's a position that takes a while for guys to get going and if a team is more comfortable with his medical than others well the talent level justifies a top 12 to 15 selection so i i still think it's going to be dallas turner though and I have okay confidence in that spot,
Starting point is 00:31:47 unless somebody really jumped ahead of them because they knew that. Yeah, I think that Jimmy Lake, the defense coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons, also has a connection with Laatu Laatu, both in high school, I believe, and also while they were both at Washington. So I think that connection there if he really loves law too makes a lot of sense so obviously i missed most of that rant plugging in my computer but do you still you you want to go with dallas turner here i'm really torn i really don't know i think both of these guys would be fantastic and it's a coin flip but i think it's's going to be one of those two guys. Right. Yeah, I lean more Turner, but I have no problem if you want your guy here.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Once again, I'm very, you know, flexible in this spot. I do think it'll be defense. Let's go Latu, man. I think the connection, I think the Jimmy Lake connection, obviously Raheem brought Jimmy Lake in to be the defense coordinator he's gonna trust him there if Lake has anything good to say with Latu at all which I think he's going to we'll know right like we'll know right I'm gonna go a lot to at eight I I think the money it being even money with those guys really tells you
Starting point is 00:33:01 that some stuff's happening behind the scenes I'm going lot to an eight uh bears at nine easy right too well do you believe the byron murphy hype at number nine overall i don't think it's nuts i don't think it's crazy at all um it's just weird to picture them here's the problem with this trevor here's the problem with this if they pass on roma dunze doesn't it just throw everything into complete hell i mean not really because of the jets the jets have to take him the jets have to take him yeah i for as much as i really do believe that ibra flus is still looking for that like dominant three technique defensive tackle to really be the centerpiece of his defense i just don't know if they could pass on roma dude say
Starting point is 00:33:57 i think i i still lean rome I still lean. I do too. This is the, this is the late entry one where you're like, Oh, this is really late. Like it could happen, but I'm still going to go with my original gut. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Me too. Roma dunes, a nine to the Chicago bears jets at 10. You tell me, man, what do you think? Boy, if I had a dollar for this question,
Starting point is 00:34:20 every time the jets are, the jets are difficult this year. And I put this in my mock draft because they are one of the true teams that is open to going up in the right situation like this one where dunes a falls to nine uh or for neighbors or for Marv probably gonna be hard to do that they're open to going down because they don't have a second round pick and they want that pick back everybody in the world thinks they're taking Brock Bowers at 10. I lean more if they're at 10 in this exact scenario that it would be Talisa Fulanga, that they would go offensive line.
Starting point is 00:34:51 They would be thinking long-term. The plan for Fulanga, I would be curious to hear from them on that. Is he going to start at guard? Are you going to move AVT back to left guard? Fulanga plays right guard and Simpson goes to the bench. We've had that conversation when we mocked Fatano here as well. Uh, I think a lot of people see Flango as a long-term tackle,
Starting point is 00:35:10 which the jets don't have a tackle under contract after this year. Uh, I mean, listen, would I be shocked if they took Bowers? No, there's not really a lot of picks that would shock me in this scenario, but if I have to make the pick,
Starting point is 00:35:23 the guy I'm the most confident in right now is talisa fuanga i'm all for it i'm not gonna push back against you that's my boy going top 10 i'd absolutely love to see it i would love to see it so there we go i'm just i'm trusting you on this and we're going to lisa fuanga at number 10 vikings don't trade up in our mock draft so they're sitting here at 11 now J.J. McCarthy is still here so this could obviously be an easy J.J. McCarthy spot because they don't have to trade up to go get him you also don't have to have the conversations of like oh is he worth all this draft capital like no it's just it's one pick it's number 11 it's outside the top 10 even but there's been some talk of them liking May a lot.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Now, does that mean that they don't like McCarthy? Not sure, because we don't really hear the other end of the coin. We just hear that they like May. We've also heard that they like Knicks, right? And they could like Knicks a lot. So are they more comfortable saying, hey, let's take a major difference-making player at a different position here at 11 and see if we can get Knicks at 23.
Starting point is 00:36:27 What did you end up doing for your written mock here at 11? I mean, a lot of people are going to groan. And to be fair, in this scenario, I had, in my written mock, I had the Broncos trade up to eight with Atlanta to take McCarthy. And then I had the Vikings take Penn take penix over nix and i know like i get it like i'm probably at this point the penix guy with him is qb3 um i think a lot of people i think he's going around one though yeah he's he's going around one he's going around one i think he's going top 16 going top 16 i'd i'd buy it yeah i'd buy it so now this scenario is a little
Starting point is 00:37:09 funky because i didn't have mccarthy on the board in my situation i'm not but like you nailed this in the open it feels like everybody's just sinking their teeth into mccarthy and the vikings and i'd never got there i think there's less clarity for me on that i was with you like i think like drake may with a talent makes a lot of sense and his strengths it's just no entry point and we think there's not an entry point right now so the batch it feels like the vikings are working with are potentially mccarthy pennix and nix schematically i think pennix is the best fit amongst those guys i just don't i don't know if panics goes above mccarthy yeah this worked out a little bit different than my written one right i think we should go mccarthy here at 11 i'm fine with it
Starting point is 00:37:53 i still am not really buying that they are in to mccarthy like the general media has made it seem to be where i see people like the vikings are probably gonna trade to five for jj mccarthy if i'm wrong i'm wrong i just i'm not really like buying that like it feels like everybody has got gotten it yeah because I'm like I'm trying to think of what would happen in this scenario and you know I think interior defensive tackles a big need for the Vikings as well so you've got Byron Murphy here and I think Byron Murphy's going to be a top 15 pick. So the Vikings could certainly be a landing spot for him there. But would the Vikings really, with McCarthy still on the board at 11, and even I'll throw in Michael Penix and Bo Nix into that conversation as well, even with pick 23, are they really going to sit there at 11 and say,
Starting point is 00:38:39 yeah, let's get cute with the quarterback position? You can't. Not pick one at 11 and then wait to 23. No. You can't do that. You at 11 and then wait to 23. No. You can't do that. You have two teams sitting behind you that are probably taking quarterbacks. How could you do that? Right.
Starting point is 00:38:50 You can't do that. I think we should pick McCarthy here for the Vikings. If it falls like this, I think they'd take him at 11. So how do the next two go? Do you think it's chalk and it's quarterback, quarterback? No. quarterback quarterback um no no i feel like the broncos are gonna move back i really feel like the broncos move back and still end up with bow yes that's kind of how that's kind of that's kind of what i think that's gained steam and it makes sense and i think somebody's like somebody's going to trade up for an offensive tackle i feel like at
Starting point is 00:39:31 this spot right we just we have not had we've had three go off the board but like there's so many other good offensive tackles that are still there troy faltan who's still here ola fashanu is fashion who is still here amarius mimims. These guys are good, man. I feel like they're all going top 20. Mm-hmm. Yep. Our first trade. Saints desperately need one.
Starting point is 00:39:55 It doesn't really change anything. Bengals could. I guess the Dolphins could. Eagles could. I guess the Dolphins could. Eagles could. I still like this like Eagles Broncos trade. So Quinion Mitchell to the Eagles, right? Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:40:15 it could be. Or would they just wait for corner? No, if somebody's going to move up, I think it's going to be for an offensive lineman. And if nobody's moving for an offensive lineman, then I don't think there's really a move to be made. It's tricky. Trading down is not as easy as everybody cracks it up to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 You think Bowers goes here? I hear Bowers to the Broncos a lot. It seems pretty low impact, though. So they're really going to go into the season with Jarrett Stidham and Zach Wilson and Ben DiNucci? I mean, when you put it like that. They don't have a second round pick. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I know. Which is what makes trading up difficult, too. You know? Yeah. No, you're right. You're absolutely right. That part's also difficult. Unless they just nuke it
Starting point is 00:41:05 and trade certain which i find to be insane no no they're not going to do that they're not i would never say not going to do that about sean payton i think he's a hard brain to figure out but i don't think it's going to happen that's true All right, Knicks and then Pennix. Yeah. All right. I think we're on the right path. I want to say we're on the right path here. Knicks at 12, Pennix at 13.
Starting point is 00:41:34 There. Yeah. I think we're on the right path. I don't, like, there'll be movement, but I think the position groups and the quarterbacks going isn't insane. Saints at 14 tackle has to be offensive tackle in my opinion olu or mims or mims not easy to figure out and mims is like very new orleans type i thought the same thing. I did put Olu in mine, but when I was done with it, I was like,
Starting point is 00:42:06 I could easily see themselves talking them into Amarius Mims. Has Mims taken a visit with them? He's probably been a busy man. Let's take a look. Let's see. I don't know. Packers hosted him. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Visit tracker. Live on the show, reading off visit trackers. Wait, did Bo Nix meet with the Denver Broncos? I'm almost sure he did. No, but Michael Panix did. I know Panix did. Interesting. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Okay, where is the New Orleans Saints? God, they brought in nobody according to this. Christian Boyd, Dylan Lobb. Some of these teams really hide it. Keon Coleman. Besides the Jets. I know 25 of the Jets' 30 visits. Well, it's just because you're a man in the know.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I think we should go Mary Smims here. I'm with you. Okay. Either that or Fulton. No, I'm fine with Mims. What they view as a true tackle. And then it makes 15, in my opinion, very easy. Because you already read that one off.
Starting point is 00:43:31 All right, 15 is who? Brock Bowers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super easy. Super easy. If he makes it to 15, obviously I'm talking about them trading up for Brock Bowers. So if he makes it to 15, then it's easy. I mean, 16 is also incredibly easy now fatanu
Starting point is 00:43:45 right yes yes yeah i think so too i think if he's he if he if he's on the board for the seahawks i think that's a that's a slam dunk yeah his offensive coordinator is there low moving costs low moving costs see that's what it's all about people jags is 17 i corner quinion right yep i think it's got to be i think it's got to be Quinion. I don't even know who else we're having this conversation about. Terry on Arnold, but I wouldn't. Oh, yeah. Arnold.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Yeah, Arnold, I guess so. All right. Because I don't think they're going to. I don't think. It just doesn't feel. The league likes this wide receiver class, but I don't know if they love it outside of the top three, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:30 the depth of it. Yeah. But I hear, I just hear so many, like, even when we get to Brian Thomas jr. And 80 Mitchell and lab McConkie, like there's just,
Starting point is 00:44:39 it's just a pros and cons list outside of the top three. I could see a lot of these teams just letting these guys slide down the board and be like we'll get a wide receiver later and i think because of that you're gonna see wide receiver four get picked later i'm on corner for the jacks okay and you think quinnian over tarion yes all right this one has to be byron murphy right if If Murphy makes to 18, it feels like that. Which, yeah, it's a lot. Like, no guarantee that he does. But in this scenario, it has to be him.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Yeah, I feel like that's true. I've heard he'll go over Newton. That's what gives me the confidence. Yes, yes, yes. Man, according to this list the bengals have brought in a lot of defensive tackles but none of like the early guys mason smith davandre sweat justin rogers jackson mckinley juwan briggs none of the early guys met with all about the combine yeah probably
Starting point is 00:45:43 rams at 19 They met with him at the Combine. Yeah, probably. Rams at 19. Rams at 19. I think I had a surprise pick here in my mock. Oh, who was it? Brian Thomas Jr. No, I think I hate it. I i mean i'm sure you do all right so dream about you got so many all right sell me this pen i mean i love what cooper cup and puka nakua could do in the intermediate of the field and this is a team that wants to run the ball of course but they don't have somebody
Starting point is 00:46:24 like and there's not many of humans on planet earth like this in brian thomas jr that can stretch the field the way he does and the long term of this offense while it will be pukinakua there's no guarantee the long term of this offense is cooper cup right so when you're thinking of being as explosive as you can at the end of Matthew Stafford's career and at the end of Cooper Cup's peak, I look at it and go, well, this is the answer to that. I could see him being on their board. I don't know if they'd pick him.
Starting point is 00:47:03 What do you like here, though, is what I actually want to know. They are very difficult to figure out. Yeah, defense for them, honestly. So Turner and Latu are gone. Actually. I'm looking at their depth chart right now. I guess they brought in Darius Williams. Turner's not gone in this scenario.
Starting point is 00:47:27 You had lots who go. Oh, yeah, right. So this has to be Dallas Turner. Yeah, it's got to be Dallas Turner. Yes. Don't think he makes it there. All right, we're going to put Dallas Turner to the Los Angeles Rams because I think that if he makes it there, he's, well.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Or Olu. Or Olu. I think I like Olu more. Okay. Where's Turner going if he's not going to the Falcons? You tell me. The Broncos would be in play. The Seahawks would be in play.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah. And then a trade up. I agree with you. It's almost crazy to have the conversation about one of these guys going in the top 10 and then we're sitting here at 19 and he's still on the board. And you go, okay, how did this happen? That's why the Falcons want to trade. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I don't know where. That's why it does make a lot of sense for the Falcons to trade down in this mock. Right. All right. Rams going Dallas Turner. He's too good. Okay. Too athletic.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Too much potential. They need a pass rush too badly. Steelers at 20. Arnold? Right, that or tackle. There's a shot they take tackle here, too. Are they going to draft a tackle though? I feel like they should, but they're not going to.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I think they might. Really? Okay. Yeah. I do. Well, who though? Cause Olu has only played left and they've got Broderick Jones. Can't Broderick play right?
Starting point is 00:49:24 No, Broderick would play right. I didn't Broderick played right, did he? Yeah, I thought he did. Am I losing? Are we losing our minds? Let me check this. I want to make sure. I did not think he played.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Oh, no, he did play right. All right, I'm an idiot. All right, yeah, you're right. It's not a crazy thing to mix up. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. I feel like they're too confident on Dan Moore Jr., though. I don't think they're going offensive tackle. I think they're going corner.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Okay, I definitely disagree, but I will go the other way. Is that because you think that's what they should do? Or you feel like, because I don't really have like a, I've heard that they would do this kind of thing. I don't have a good feel for the Steelers. I just go by historical trends. And I look at their needs at wide receiver and center. And yes, they have a need at corner.
Starting point is 00:50:21 But it's more likely they can get those things. They cannot get a tackle after this pick more likely they can get those things they cannot get a tackle after this pick like they can't there's no way and i think people are really drinking the kool-aid way too much on some of these day two tackles like this the shit i read about kingsley sue and matia makes my jaw hit the floor i mean don't get me wrong guy's a lot of talent he is not nfl ready next year oh i agree i agree with that i just i i don't i don't i don't know if they think that offensive tackle is that big of a problem man i haven't really heard they have you you better be right now i'll say this trevor in all my scenarios i don't just have terry on and Arnold sitting here staring them in the face.
Starting point is 00:51:05 So that kind of changes some things. I think it's Arnold or Brian Thomas Jr. Man, the day they take a first-round wide receiver. So then it's Terry and Arnold. Yeah, it's Terry and Arnold. Okay. Arnold to the Steelers at 20. Miami at 21.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I wish this was Johnny Newton. I think it's verse. Yeah. That would make sense. I mean, you had season-ending, late season-ending injuries to Bradley Chubb and Jalen Phillips last year. Yep.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And Ben Ginkle left in free agency. Yep. last year and uh ben ginkle left in free agency yep i don't really make this connection very often but i think that it makes a lot of sense now is that enough with olu on the board would they say no man getting a read on on who likes ollu is the hardest thing in this entire draft. Yeah. But he's hella athletic. Oh, I love Olu. We know that Miami would be in on that.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah, I think Olu would be a great pick here. I think we should pick Olu because they don't know how much longer Teron Armstead's going to do it. And I think Fashinu is really good to learn behind Armstead and maybe play one of the other interior positions while he can. Okay. Let's go Fashanou here. 21.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Eagles at 22. I don't think they pick i don't think they picked a gene i don't either be kind of awesome if they did i i feel like they'd pick wiggins i i think i had them take wiggins let me check now i think they're definitely a trade candidate um yes i had them take wiggins yeah i think this is a wiggins spot i don't think it's a guarantee like i'm not locked into it but he just seems like their type and if they're going to take corner it's going to be at that spot yeah they don't need newton they don't need another edge rusher maybe offensive line but that would be they need a corner badly they do need a corner badly all right nate wiggins 22 the eagles 23 minnesota vikings got mccarthy at 11
Starting point is 00:53:35 newton please this is where it's this is where it starts for Newton. Right? Yes. Absolutely. This is where it starts for Newton. I'm just annoyed that Newton, we're talking about him like this. If you're Brian Flores and you throw Johnny Newton into that front, it's insane compared to what they had last year. I would agree. You know I agree. It's new and let's do it let's manifest it i'm manifesting it jerzy newton 23 to minnesota vikings 24 to the dallas cowboys
Starting point is 00:54:16 tricky one. Yeah. So I'll tell you what would happen here. Mm. Yeah, actually, I would have told you this. I would have told you this for 23 as well, maybe even 22. Tampa trade's up at this point. point okay and they're going to get yeah jason light doesn't do it very often like he's like chris ballard he just he just does not
Starting point is 00:54:54 trade very often uh up because he likes his draft picks but this team needs a pass rusher so bad and let's do it i i think tampa would have traded to and like we don't we don't have to do this like we can live in a world where the cowboys can pick whoever like the cowboys can pick graham barton the packers can pick cooper dejean and then we can have jared verse go to the bucks at 26 but in all reality if jared verse or i'm going to be honest, if Jared Verse or Leatu Latu are there and it's pick 21, 22, 23, whatever, I think Tampa's calling. I think Tampa's trying to get up. They're going to go get one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:55:35 You know I'll lean on you for this one. And in my final mock, I had them get Latu. Okay. So let's just, for the sake of just keeping the mock uniform, do you think the Cowboys would take Graham Barton here? I feel like they should. I am puzzled on this one. I think it would be between Barton or Guyton.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Guyton? I know, it's kind of like what you get now versus what you could get later Barton they are a win now team and Barton upgrades them the most now another another 2014 draft anniversary story 10 years ago Jerry Jones passed on the temptation of drafting Johnny Manziel for Zach Martin, and it kind of worked out for him. So I wonder if maybe in a sentimental spirit they remind him that, hey, 10 years ago you took a guard and it wasn't very flashy and he's going to be in the Hall of Fame one day.
Starting point is 00:56:38 You could do that with Grant Barton. Tyler Money Manziel Guyton. I'm with you though. I'll roll a Barton here. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. Graham Barton to the Cowboys of 24.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Dajeen to the Packers of 25. Gotta have it. Gotta have it. Bucks get verse. And again, like they're, they're, they're getting him at 26.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I, you know, that we hear on this podcast, like verse more than that. I think that verse, and again, they're getting him at 26. You know that we here on this podcast like verse more than that. I think that verse, if he's still on the board early 20s, the Bucs are calling up. The Bucs are calling up for him. Who do we have left at offensive tackle? Because I'm going to give you something that I think happens. Okay. Washington's got two that I think happens. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Washington's got two second round picks. Correct. I think they use one of them to get up for an offensive tackle. I think they trade back up. Jordan Morgan or Tyler Guyton? Sua Mattia, Morgan, Guyton, whoever. I think they like the most between those three guys. I think it might be Jordan Morgan, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:57:48 That's what makes sense to me. I don't know who the team is to do it, but I know they have to get in front of the Ravens because I think the Ravens really want an offensive tackle, and I think the Chiefs also want an offensive tackle. So if Washington's going to do it, it's going to be these next two picks. It's going to be the Cardinals, or it's going to be
Starting point is 00:58:09 the Bills. I don't know if the Bills are in a spot to be able to trade down. Bills would sit and take a wide receiver. I think so, too. So then, where's Washington? What pick is it going to be for? Probably 36.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And... This trade is lopsided. Yeah, I'm getting crushed by the simulator right now. I just think that i i i think that shoot me i mean maybe it's the lions lions could trade out ravens could trade out i think the ravens want to tackle. So if one's on the board for Washington to trade up, I don't think they're going to... I don't think they'll move from that spot. Well, we know the Cardinals will move if they feel it's helpful. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:59:20 They don't care. And you could really jump up and down the board when your roster is very, you know, work in progress-esque. What's the trade, though? Yeah. Well, let's see. Let's pull up the old Rich Hill chart. So Arizona's pick, 216.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Washington's 36 is, all right, 166 and 216. So we need to make up the difference of 60 points. 60 points, that's it. So you can just argue it's 67. I think they'd probably rather do it in next year's draft, right? Because the Cardinals have so many picks this year. Oh, yeah. Unless the Cardinals send back like 186.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Sure. Yeah. That makes sense. 36, a fourth rounder, 27, 186. Yep. No, I don't know if they do that. 162 or 138? 138.
Starting point is 01:00:30 So 36 and 67 from Washington for 27 and 138 from Arizona. That makes a lot of sense to me. All right, read that off again. All right, so Washington sends pick 36 and 67. Okay. Arizona is sending 27 and 136. 138. 138.
Starting point is 01:00:52 That's my bad. No, no, no. I had it wrong because I'm an idiot. Oh, okay. So then they have 36, 35, 66, 67. Dang. That's kind of nice. Yeah, when you have a blank roster,
Starting point is 01:01:05 you could actually just start filling in spots. Okay. Ooh, trade is a 66% chance to be accepted. All right, so it's pretty much a... That's a passing score in high school. Trade accepted. Washington's on the board. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I want to see it. Offense to tackle. accepted Washington's on the board all right um offensive tackle the classic us we made the trade now what I just I just think they're gonna move up for an offensive tackle it's just a matter of which one I feel like Kingsley soon with Tia's getting a lot of buzz or is it just Jordan and we're overthinking it right I feel like weley Suemati is getting a lot of buzz. Or is it just Jordan Morgan and we're overthinking it? Right, I feel like we're overthinking this. Also, yeah, Jordan Morgan, he's been good for many years.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Imagine that. All right, Jordan Morgan, 27. There you go. So the Bills are sitting here at 28. Brian Thomas Jr.? Yeah. I don't think he makes it here, but yes, in this scenario, he has to be the pick. I think this pick will come down to Adonai Mitchell, Xavier Leggett, and Xavier Worthy.
Starting point is 01:02:16 But how would we pass on Brian Thomas Jr. in this spot? I think Xavier Worthy is going in the first round. He's a lock. I just don't know where to put him. It's just the Bills can't pass on Brian Thomas Jr. unless something's really wrong there. Yeah. All right, Brian Thomas Jr. to the Bills, 28.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Lions, 29. I honestly think this is darius robinson it's that's been hot for a while why yeah i really do think that this is darius robinson he just again from bruce feldman's nfl draft confidential and obviously it's not the bible like it it's it's he's just polling sources, but like, they're raving about this dude, man. Raving about him. Was it the Lions specifically or just the NFL? No, the NFL. Yeah, the NFL loves him. Just like anonymous NFL sources, man.
Starting point is 01:03:14 The NFL loves him. They love this dude. Love him. I think it's going to be Darius Robinson. I'll roll with you on that. It seems kind of nuts, but not nuts. Baltimore at 30. Offensive tackle.
Starting point is 01:03:30 I think it's offensive tackle. I think it has to be. Ronnie Stanley's in the last year of his deal. He's suffered ankle injuries two out of the last three years. Daniel Folele is their right tackle. I mean, they have to draft an offensive tackle. The question is, like, what fits their DNA? Do you think this is a Sua Matia pick?
Starting point is 01:03:51 Him or Guyton? He plays guard this year? Yeah, him or Guyton. Him or Guyton. What did I have them do? Graham Barton fell to them in my mock draft, so that was kind of easy. Yeah, that is easy. I'm going to go Guyton.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I think Guyton's higher consensus. Sure. You should be. Yeah, I think they're going offensive tackle, though. Everything I feel like I have read and heard has them going offensive tackle. Niners at 31. I had a big surprise in this spot. Okay, talk to me. I had Mikey
Starting point is 01:04:27 Sanders still. Oh, boy! Yeah. I think corner is very in play for them, and I just think his playmaking ability is something that would attract the 49ers. Now, to be
Starting point is 01:04:44 fair, I also had Kool-Aid off the board in my mock draft there. We do not have Kool-Aid off the board in this mock draft. I want to be fair to that. I do think Kool-Aid makes a ton of sense. Oh, excuse me. Lack of sleep, folks. I think that Kool-Aid does make a ton of sense for them.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Right. He's the next guy. Man, I think Worthy's getting in the first round, though. So we have him and Mitchell battling it out for the next pick. No, we don't. I'm going to be honest, because I think the Chiefs are going offensive tackle. So where the hell did either of them go? It's a great question, brother.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And who are the Chiefs taking? You just think they're just going to take Suamatea and be like, whatever, we don't care? I think they're going offensive tackle. All right. So what are we doing here first? Kool-Aid? Probably.
Starting point is 01:05:37 It's kind of hard to not have Kool-Aid come off the board. Yeah. Kool-Aid McKintry makes a lot of sense for this team. Final pick. Kingsley Suamatea or Xavier Worthy? Pick one. I mean, Adonai Mitchell? I mean, it could be A.D. Mitchell in the spirit of...
Starting point is 01:05:58 I would pick... If you're asking me to truly pick between those two, it's Worthy. I think Worthy is the most likely guy to go in the first round of those guys that are left yeah i'm trying to i'm scrolling the board like where is worthy also good like where is he going to come off the board the bills is the only one i have and we had brian thomas jr fall the billsills are really like, is it like, not to, you know, cold weather, Northeast team, like they're going to draft.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I wouldn't do it. I made the Christmas story joke about this. Like, I don't, like, this is not, no. They should take a big wide receiver. But I'm just saying he's in play there. I just don't think it's going to happen. I think it's going to be Leggett or Mitchell. I think if anything, it might be the Cowboys at 24.
Starting point is 01:06:48 That would be very like, oh, okay, yeah. You know? But we're far gone. We are far gone. Too far gone, even. I think it's offensive tackle. Wow. This is a big reach.
Starting point is 01:07:07 No matter how you slice it, it is a massive reach. I feel like the league's higher on these guys than... than we are at this point. I think the league's higher on Suamatea and Rosengarten. For sure, yeah. I don't get that feel about Amagaji. Nope. I like Amagaji, but I think he's a day two guy, firmly.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah. I think Brandon Coleman and Blake Fisher are the same. I think those are day two guys. Yep. But I do think Rosengarten's going to be a surprise. I think he's going really guys. Yep. But I do think Rose Garden's going to be a surprise. I think he's going really early. Oh, man. Do we do it?
Starting point is 01:07:53 No way, do we? I don't agree with this at all. I'm taking the right receiver. You don't want to put me here a tackle. I'm in a pit of shit right now. Like, I don't like any of this. Do we? They can't pick
Starting point is 01:08:10 Xavier Worthy. Adnai Mitchell's right there! Fine! It's our worst, well, my worst nightmare. This is great for you. You like Mitchell. He's gonna be a star there. I know, but it's a predictive mock draft. I don't know
Starting point is 01:08:25 if it happens I guess I guess I guess I could see it there it is look at the freaking screen oh god final first round predictive mock draft every pick's right run to fan duel please don't do that influence in gambling great idea could never be us let us know what you thought that was a lot more taxing mentally than i thought i really we really worked through that oh we did that was that was like that was that was smoke coming out of the out of the ears there to try to make that happen but it's just man the the closer we have gotten to draft weekend, the more nerve-wracking this has become because we have waited for a trade to drop. Right? Are the Vikings moving up?
Starting point is 01:09:13 Are the Chargers moving back? And the fact of the matter is, the longer time moved on from the month of March, the more it became a reality that nobody's going to move until Thursday night. Nobody's going to move until Thursday night. Nobody's going to move. And here we are. It's a beautiful time of year. We would love to hear what you thought of our mock draft. The best way to do that, in the YouTube comment section,
Starting point is 01:09:34 youtube.com backslash at NFL Stock Exchange. If you're audio only, you can hit us up on Twitter and also Instagram at ConnorJRogers at Tampa Bay Trey. Yeah, we would love to hear y'all's first-round predictions as well. For either your favorite team, what you think your favorite team is going to do, or just like a feeling of, shoot, maybe y'all got sources. Look, Reddit bullied Vegas a year ago into making Will Levis the highest odds to go number two overall. We know you guys got sources.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Those are great sources. Look how it turned out. Hold on. I'm trying to influence bets via our comment section. I'm trying to have articles written of people who are in our comment section saying, no, no, no, no, no. I, like my mailman, grew up in his best friends with Raheem Morris. Raheem Morris told him in confidence. And then he obviously told me cause he's my mail guy and we have a
Starting point is 01:10:34 good relationship. So we're cool. He gives me all the, the, the mail and also the, uh, the NFL source news that I'm looking for. We know you guys are out there doing that. So hit us in the comment section. Let us know. Let us know all the good stuff. But yeah, that's our first round mock draft. Man, I'm so excited for Thursday night, man. I'm just, I really am.
Starting point is 01:10:55 As much as I love these exercises, as much as I love these shows, Connor, I'm even more excited to just see it play out. We've done so many of these now. Tell us what's going to happen. That's what I'm here for. Watching it play out. We've done so many of these now. Tell us what's going to happen. That's what I'm here for. Watching it play out is going to be incredible. And then a reminder for everybody that we will be live on the channel after the draft.
Starting point is 01:11:17 I cannot emphasize that enough. I need to get home. Trevor needs to get off the PFF desk. But when we are done with our draft work during the actual draft, we will be live on the NFL Stock stock exchange channel that night after round one i just dude the instant reaction shows are so are just absolute gold i can't wait for it so yeah like connor said live show right after night night one um but for night one of the draft come hang out on the pff nfl show over at the uh at the pff youtube channel obviously hang out with
Starting point is 01:11:51 connor as well y'all got multiple screens look it's 2022 i know y'all listen to this you got laptops you got computers you got tablets you got phones pull both of them up pull both of them up and and somehow get in the lobby for the live draft show afterwards while you do pull up three screens are you true addict or not i don't know you guys say you are in the comments prove yourself i'm just i'm just kidding you know i love you guys no matter how you watch but yeah check out the nbc uh nfl draft content that they have over there with connor doing that uh also come hang out with the the pff nfl folks as we are on the desk covering night one of the n Draft.
Starting point is 01:12:25 But, buddy, I am. I'm just excited to see how it all plays out. Excited to talk about this with you guys afterwards. Again, the post-draft show is one of my favorites that we do every single year because the emotions, the craziness, the sleep deprivation, the hunger levels. I mean, it's just at an all-time high, and you're going to get as high of entertainment as you possibly can. Anything else before we get out of here? everything you said i can't wait it's hard to
Starting point is 01:12:48 believe this is the last time you and i are talking on air before 32 of these guys are on nfl teams it is going to be an awesome night thank you everyone for sticking with us thank you in advance to everybody that's going to stay up late and party with us at like 12 30 1 a.m whenever the hell we're on in the middle of the night Thursday. I promise you it will be worth it. We'll be alive. We will be ready. We will be excited.
Starting point is 01:13:10 So we will catch all you guys then. 28K followers, subscribers on the YouTube channel. We love you all so much for hitting another milestone in draft week. Just means so much to us, but we're not even close to done yet. Got an exciting weekend coming up. I'm Trevor. That's Connor. Thank you guys so much for watching and listening to the nfl stock exchange podcast we will see you after night one of the 2024 nfl draft see you guys Thank you.

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