NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 26. Top 3 Realistic Trades for the 2022 NFL Draft (And One Crazy Draft Trade)

Episode Date: March 22, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers each bring three potential draft trades to the table that they believe are realistic. They think about picks and even players moved to help different teams. Plus, at the end, they each throw out one crazy draft trade that they don’t really expect to happen, but would be incredible if it did.

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I got it this year. It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. On today's show, we're talking draft trades, three realistic ones from both myself and Trevor at the top of the show. And then we're going to

get a little crazy. The not very likely to happen draft trades. We're going to throw some players around, obviously some big time picks, and we're not just looking at 2022 assets. We're going to have 2023 as well. So we have a loaded episode for you today. We're going to get creative. We're going to get off the rails,

sit back and enjoy the show. I'm Connor Rogers. Joining me as always is my co-host Trevor Sykema. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange. I'm Connor Rogers. Alongside with me as always is my co-host trevor sycamore and today we are not starting our guest mock draft series you're gonna have to wait till thursday curveball uh rome wasn't built in a day it takes a while but thursday we will be off the ground we will have a lot of different guests and we will get that rolling we actually have a really fun show

today trevor we are doing draft trades we got a couple that we think are very realistic. And then after that, we're going to do some that are totally off the rails that we're going to have a lot of fun with. And if they happen, it would be absolutely insane. So, dude, I'm excited for this one. I know we're making the people wait just a little longer, but today is going to be really good. Yeah, we we started to get the interviews together and we've got we've got a lot of people lined up now for the schedule to release the guest mock draft on time so this doesn't happen again. But as we were kind of getting it together, we were like, all right, we're probably not going to have it done on Tuesday. This takes a long time.

We bit off a little bit more than we could chew on that one. We want to make sure that this project is as good as it could be for you guys because it's been a lot of fun to do over the last couple of years. And it's going to be a blast to do. So we wanted to make sure that we did that right. But this idea, I think has a lot of legs as well. This idea is very, very fun. That's me and you coming together and pitching some realistic draft day trades that we could see coming up at the back of April. And then also, like you said, a couple of crazy ones we might throw in there that we probably don't think has happened but might be fun as hell to see if it does yeah dude so let's kick things off i'm gonna get right into this and and there's gonna be a lot of different teams on this which is a lot of fun if you're um if your team's in the first round

there's a good chance you're gonna be in this combo some way or the other starting with the the lions here now we're gonna have a lot of rebuilding teams no we are not starting at two this is the lions at 32 the lions coming up instead of trading out which might surprise some people but there is sound logic to this uh they are one of the rebuilding teams that i actually think should not move backwards as much because they just have so much draft capital they're fine there I think they need a wide receiver Trevor and I think they at 32 and 34 yes you can get Sky more maybe you're in the George Pickens conversation those are fun those are not the same tier as the other guys

and I think they have so much draft capital that they can afford to do this without giving up 34 which would essentially just be um they're still getting that caliber player that they can afford to do this without giving up 34, which would essentially just be they're still getting that caliber player that they're looking for outside of round one. So 32, 66, and 97. So they're taking their second first-rounder, both their third-round picks, and they are coming up to the Eagles at 16. Don't forget the Eagles have three first-rounders,

so they can afford to get a little creative. They can come up once if they want, and they can go back once if they need to. They're trying to space out those picks, and this is a way for them to balance out that draft capital. So for the Lions, those three picks, 32, 66, 97, 962 points on the old draft trade chart. That Eagles 16th pick is worth about 1,000 points. So what you're keeping in mind here, it's not a perfect science because every draft value is different. I think going up will be a little cheaper than usual this year and the Lions get up to 16 and the goal is simple here, Trevor. They are drafting the top wide receiver that's available before they're all gone at 21 or 22, right? You got

New England, you got Green Bay. 32 is just too late. I would love to see the Lions come up and get a Garrett Wilson, get a Jamison Williams, you know, Traylon Burks, Drake London. That's the kind of tier they're looking in here. So the Lions can walk away with, obviously, one of the best players in the draft at two. A really, really good starter at 34. But being aggressive from 32 and coming back up into the middle of the draft gives them that number one wide receiver,

the future to play across from Amon Ross, St. Brown. Yeah. And they also signed DJ Chark as well. So that would give them three pretty good wide receivers. Josh Reynolds is there. I don't know if you were a Josh Reynolds fan was he was coming,

coming out of Texas. Sam, I was so number four, not right. Not giving up on the lad. So look, I know he's been around the NFL, but I think that he's a good wide receiver.

And I think it'd be a great number four option there. You know, the Lions are at this point where they're not totally sure who is going to lead them into the next step. And when I say that, I don't mean head coach or GM. They hope that they have that there with Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes, but the quarterback situation, right? They've got Jared Goff. This is the last year with him where they, they really have to have him as their starter before they can move on from them and basically be able to turn that page in that next chapter. They were able to get a couple of really great premium picks from the Los Angeles Rams. This would be one of them and being able to package a couple of third round picks to be able to move up to go get a wide receiver that they might exactly want right and that's kind of what it would come down to yes a lot of people might respond to this trade package and say well there's tons of wide receivers to get in this why would you trade up and yeah i do hear you but if if they really love drake london if they

really love treyland burks those are two guys that I look at as different types of wide receivers from what they have now. I think the DJ chart can be a big – Yes, 100%. Chart can be a field stretcher for you. Amon Ross St. Brown can be that quick hit, almost use him anywhere on the field, kind of a player that you use anywhere from like 20 yards underneath

and you let him do some great work after the catch. If you want a big-body contested to catch guy like we were saying before in the red zone and the money downs and you want either a trailing burks or a drake london you think they're going to be available at 16 maybe pull the trigger so i think that this is within the realm of possibility i think you mentioned it the only thing that would really hold this back, I think from actually coming to fruition is do the lions think they're at a point to where not having more throws of the dartboard, if you will, those third round picks,

is that worth more with a young up and coming roster than going to go up and get one guy. But if they think it is, then I can see them checking the box and this may be happening. Yeah. It's a little aggressive maybe for where their timeline is at. Now, when you look at it from the Eagles perspective as well, the reason I did this trade is because you are going to show a different perspective from the Eagles. And it's a way for them to diverse that portfolio on day two.

If they, Trevor, if they do what if if they if they trade up is that what you were looking yes is that what you're looking for me to say so my trade that i have for the philadelphia eagles and it was a good little transition there i see you connor uh i have them moving up not them moving back they've got the three picks in the first round. They've got 15, they've got 16, and they've got 19. A trade that I concocted in my head that I do think makes a lot of sense for both parties is Eagles moving 15. I guess you could get creative with which one they might end up moving. Obviously, if you're in these negotiations and I have them doing business with the Atlanta Falcons. So if you call up Atlanta, you know, you don't start this trade off by saying, Hey, we'll give you 15. You start this trade off by saying, we'll give you 19. And if they put their foot down and they

say, no, we're not doing that for one way, for one reason or another, they would, they could be comfortable going all the way up to 15. And I have them given up 15 number 51 which is their second round pick and then a third or fourth pick in 2023 so next year's draft class obviously you just try to make the best deal you can and getting all the way up to where the falcons are at number eight falcons are giving them a fifth round pick back this year so eagles are trading a first a second and then a third or a fourth next year for the falcons' number eight overall pick, essentially for the Eagles to jump up. And their target at this point would be probably wide receiver one in this draft.

So they would have their pick of anybody if they wanted. Or if they want to get themselves a certain pass rusher, say Kayvon Thibodeau is still on the board, say Jermaine Johnson is still on the board say jermaine johnson's still on the board or really any defender that they really deem worthy of that pick and i mean a corner really bad maybe a sauce garner maybe they love derrick singly maybe the medicals checkout right it just allows them to really not pay that big of a price because the eagles have 10 picks right now and a lot of them are premium picks and when you pick the guys that are higher in the draft,

guess what you got to do, Connor, you got to pay them more. Even with the rookie wage scale, you got to pay them more money. So that means that you've got to free up the cap to make sure you get all those guys in. So you got to put them on the roster.

You can't do 10 player classes every year. You're going to camp and you're going to be cutting guys who use the giraffe slot on that. This doesn't work in the NFL year after year, especially for a team that made the playoffs. And I know that it was, yeah, you know, kind of an easier way to make the playoffs. But you're right, they still did. And I think that they have aspirations to continue to do that moving forward.

So why not make one of those first round picks into a higher first round pick? Because from what I just laid out here out here yeah they don't pick in the second round but who gives a damn now you're picking in the top 10 you're picking 16 and you're picking 19 i think that's what that would be a great strategy for the eagles to go get a more premium player in this draft class to go get them and then for the falcons you know the the the objective is simple for them right now they just traded matt ryan we're doing this podcast post matt ryan trade and you don't get a lot from him in draft capital return, but Connor, I don't know if you've taken a look at the updated depth chart with the Atlanta Falcons. It's horrendous, dude.

They have no offensive weapons outside of Kyle Pitts. And I got nobody to throw in the football. I know that Marcus Mariota came in and signed a two-year deal. So, I mean, I guess that makes them interesting, but I don't think Marcus mary is coming in to save the franchise they also need offensive line help they need secondary help they need pass rush help they need linebacker help they need literally everything this roster is absolutely terrible and for terry fontenot the gm there to sort of save what has been a not great start to his tenure something's in his control something's out of his control you gotta get you gotta get more picks man you gotta use number eight move back especially for next year because if we look at next year's quarterback class cj stroud uh tyler van dyke bryce young perhaps

spencer rattler right there's a lot of guys that might be franchise caliber quarterbacks which you now need which you could have picked last year when you could have had the chance to pick justin fields but i'm just saying man you went there i'm just saying i think this would be a good move for both parties eagles don't have to give a lot up in and right in a bigger point of view to move up into the top 10 and atlanta really needs to move back get some extra picks, they would get a, um, a lot of, a lot of picks back in return, I think. So this is, this is one that, uh, that I think makes sense for both parties and that's what the targets are for both. Man, it makes a lot of sense. And when

you put both of ours together, I know we're very birds heavy right now, but to be fair, the Eagles have three first rounders in the draft. So they're going to be a big talking point. It shows a way that you can go up and be aggressive and then go back and really get the picks back, right? Like you gave up that second rounder pick 51. That's a really valuable pick. But in my trade, they got back pick 66. So you can find ways to recoup what you lost if you have that much ammo in the top 50 of the draft and to your falcons point man like you're in the phase and you're gonna hear you know you're gonna hear me say this a lot about certain teams you just need players man you just need players like you you need throws of the dart board in the top 100 to get starting caliber football players for your roster that are on team cost control deals for the next half a decade and

that pick 51 is so valuable to them in this spot uh where the player that they might go back from 8 to 15 to get might not be that substantial difference where it was worth taking on that risk for them right for other teams they you know a team might really want drake london and he might really need speed and he's jameson williams so the falcons i'm sure there are going to be wide receivers they fall in love with they need wide receivers but once again you need a you need a football team right now so so i like it trevor i think that makes sense this would also give them three second round picks then because they already have two because the julio jones trade so right that would give them a pick that's not too far down the line you know it's going from 8 to 15 that's really not that far back and it's an extra pick at the beginning of day two so it

would be a middle of the middle of the first round pick and then three second round picks that's big for them like you said to because they just got to get players they got to get new players in there all right dude uh let's take this a different direction here this we've obviously gone very pick heavy trades let's take a look at a player trade that has to do with the draft right now you said it as we sit here today matt ryan uh was traded early in the day and that is great for the Colts it's great for Matt Ryan like I love the fit I think it's going to be really good in Indy I think that makes so much sense for both sides Atlanta does right by Matt Ryan gives him a chance to go win somewhere in an organization that he'll fit into seamlessly but Trevor the variable in all of this is now, where the hell is Baker Mayfield playing football next year, dude?

And on top of that, the Browns have no leverage, so nobody wants to give up anything to trade for this dude when they have to pay him about $19 million this year. I have two spots for Baker Mayfield that, as I sit here and stare at the little black dot camera, I don't even believe it, to be honest with you. But let's just propose them. I'm going to throw these at you,

and you tell me which one makes more sense. And people might be shocked at the value, but I'm telling you, don't be, because this is where the value's at. Carolina trades pick 137. Carolina does not have a day two pick, as a reminder in this draft, because of the Sam Darnold trade and a couple other things.

Or a day three pick. This is a day three pick. three pick oh you're right you don't have a lot of it they have no day two ammo though at all because you said day two and i thought you meant round two because it's round two because of the sam darnold trade and it's round three because of the cj henderson trade so that you're right they don't have any pick a day. They don't have a day to pick. Not great. Carolina trades 137 for Baker Mayfield or Seattle trades 109 for Baker Mayfield. I was born both fourth round picks. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, dude.

The Bruins is where we are. Bruins messed up so bad, man. Yeah, they didn't really hold their cards uh quite well oh man that'd be brutal i mean baker has nowhere to play right now like dc would have been a great fit but this is too late and so this is this is all i could think of in terms of places he goes and plays also what wouldn't it be wild if Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield were in a camp together after being the number one and number three overall pick in the same draft four years ago?

Truly incredible. QB1 and QB2 in that draft. That also had Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen in it, by the way, just to make those franchises, to stick the knife in it a little bit further. Dude, that's, I mean... Atlanta signed Mariota, so that's not a spot here anymore i want to make that clear if you're listening right mariota's in atlanta that's

not happening so cross that off colts wanted to go after well so baker mayfield wanted to go to the colts and smart should i think the colts were interested from everything that we heard but it obviously makes sense for them to get Matt Ryan instead of Bickfield. So I work in that connection, especially for a third round pick. It's great. They can be run heavy.

Oh my goodness. I teams have done teams showed their whole ass for this to Sean Watson situation, man. They pants themselves. Dude, literally so many teams involved by so many they mean like five but there were so many teams involved that just like sold out for this they risked they

risked it all like completely gave up everything man and we're mostly left with nothing i don't even think the browns are in a great situation let me make that clear i understand they got him but the lengths they went to to get him that's all i'll say i'm not picking the browns to be in the afc title game this year let me make that very clear yeah uh was it worth it anyways pretty gross actually uh so well mayfield you know that report came out i don't remember if it was florio it was pro football talk but they were like oh the browns might think that the best course of action for baker mayfield is to humble him a little bit and to cut like cut him i was like i don't know if you i don't know if you saw this but

i i posted i posted the clip from uh from the dark knight where it's the joker burning all the money and he's just like it's not about the money oh my about sending a message. What if your boss sat you down and said, we're going to let you go, and you're going to have places to choose from, but you're also going to get $19 million to leave? Right, sick, I'm out. See you.

I'm out before lunch. And you hate it there. He doesn't like it there. No. He hates it. He said goodbye before lunch. And you hate it there. He doesn't like it there. No. He hates it. He said goodbye before they even got to Sean Watson. Dude, if I'm Baker Mayfield, I am raising as much of a stink as possible on Twitter. So they're forced to cut me and give me the 19 mil. If they don't move him in time when OTAs start, I would go to OTAs,

but not in my Browns practice uniform. I would go in my Oklahoma practice uniform and demand a practice. I would, I mean, he should, I know he can't, he really doesn't have room to do that because I don't know if you're going to have another employer if you just go full scorched earth. But for comedy.

Yeah, right. In our own vacuumed reality in which we want to get the most content on the twitter timeline that is our thoughts are like xfl like when vince mcmahon owned it not what it was like the wrestling version of the xfl that's half of our football ideas it really it really is we need we need to just have a full episode about all those one day but okay getting back on track a fourthround pick from either of these teams. I mean, Seattle and Carolina are the landing spots for Baker Mayfield, right? I mean, you look at a lot of situations around the NFL.

Shoot, Jimmy Garoppolo is still up for trade, right? And would either of these teams rather have Jimmy Garoppolo? I don't know. It probably depends on the price tag, but it certainly seems like he is held in higher regard than Baker Mayfield is. Because people like him. I know people listen to this and think it's insane. And I do get it. But when when you talk to coaches, you kind of get it like they don't want to deal with people that cause friction with them sometimes. And Baker Mayfield, in my opinion, is a better player than Jimmy G. But yes, yeah, it's a real thought process in all of this.

And here's the problem, Trevor. When I propose these trades, I don't know what Seattle is trying to do. And to be fair, I'll give them time to figure that out. Right. Like they have good receivers. They, you know, obviously have pieces on defense. They paid Jamal Adams. They paid Quandre Diggs.

Like, I don't, you know, they have Shelby Harris there after the trade. Like, they're not a complete blow this up yet. So, do you go get Baker and give this thing a shot? Or do you wave the white flag and you trade, you know, DK Metcalf and everything you have and you just start over with the oldest head coach in the NFL?

I don't know. Yeah, it's like dumb and dumber i i don't know man i don't know it's a lot of the major moves around the nfl have been very perplexing baker mayfield going for a fourth would would dude if you told anybody that even a even a year ago it's shoot even like six months ago for as bad as baker was playing if you told if you told people that in six months baker's getting dealt for a fourth round pick one fourth round pick they'd tell you to get out of town they tell you to get out of their face so quick and here we are the quarterback shuffle has just broken the brains of the nfl who would you where would, I would rather him go to Carolina. Me too.

I think that's a much better, I mean, I think that makes more sense for Carolina as well, instead of say, like, trading for Jimmy G. Like, it makes more sense for them to take a flyer on Mayfield. If they didn't fire Joe Brady, I would actually really love it.

Like, I think Baker with Joe Brady, you have DJ Moore, McCaffrey, Robbie Anderson there. I mean, you actually have an offense that you're like, eh, this isn't too bad, to be honest with you. And you can use the sixth overall pick then to get better. You can get a franchise tackle. You could do different things.

Even if you moved out of the pick, then you could double dip. Rather than, I mean, I don't know, dude. It just feels like carolina really might take kenny pickett or malik willis at six that that means that means that uh if if carolina were to do that that means that they'd be spending 36 million dollars on the cap in baker mayfield and sam darnold on their forgot about that that is uh that's not good that's not good that's not ideal no i can look i but those are two destinations that i guess i could see it so that that's not good. That's not good. That's not ideal. No, look, but those are two destinations

that I guess I could see it, so that fits the bill for what we're talking about here. I have another player-centric one. You actually just brought up his name. DK Metcalf, the wide receiver from Seattle Seahawks. Green Bay Packers. Do it. It's perfect.

Trade. All right, here's what we do. If Green Bay, Brian Goodenkoons, okay? Call him up. Be like, we'll give you 28. We'll give you pick number 28. And then Seahawks are going to say, absolutely not. We want 22.

And then Brian Goodenkoons is going to say, no. He's going to hang up the phone. And then he's going to let him sweat it out. And then a week later, he's going to call him up. He's going to be like, I'll give you 28. Pete Carroll's going to hesitate a little bit, but then he's going to say no. And then Gooden him up he's gonna be like i'll give you 28 p carol's gonna hesitate a little bit but then he's gonna say no and then good and good it's gonna be like okay well i'm not giving you 22 and then he hangs up the phone and then draft day rolls around and if they say all right dk metcalf or 22 when the green bay packers are on the clock at number 22 just trade it depending on who's on the board of course like if somebody is some

major steal falls to 22, okay, maybe you could do that, but go get, go get DK Metcalf. He's one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, especially at being a vertical threat receiver, which is the deep ball, which is what Aaron Rogers loves to do, which is a major part of now what he does not have with Devante Adams. This feels such a major need for them. He's big, he's strong, he's fast. He could be a deep threat player. I mean, Randall Cobb, I think he's still going to be there unless I don't know Green Bay plans. Like he's kind of an afterthought at this point.

Alan Lazard is more of like a big body wide receiver. Yeah, he could be a deep threat guy as well, but he's not athletic as DK Metcalf. But you have got to replace Devontae Adams somehow. And you're probably not going to be able to do it in one single blow with one single addition. You've got to make multiple additions here. If you are going to draft a wide receiver in the first round, whether it is 22 or 28, if Seattle will trade you one of those picks for DK, make it happen. Go do it. That's way better than whatever the wide receiver options

you're going to have at 22 or 28 are. And he's still on a rookie deal. And you can still make it work for the window that Aaron Rodgers is going to be playing really good football. That's the deal that I want to see happen the most is I want to get DK Metcalf out of that situation in Seattle. And I want to get him to Green Bay. So that's a trade that Connor is a realistic one.

And I think that it's got some legs. I hope that it does. Yeah. We're just waiting to see if they're, they're willing to move DK. And from everything I've heard recently, they, they haven't been,

but that can change when you get closer to the draft, you have desperate teams. Um, I'm surprised there hasn't been more buzz around DK being moved in the, they are a classic one foot in one foot out. I just don't know what Seattle wants to be. And Trevor, they have to make the decision soon because you've got to pay them

eventually. Right. That's right. You know? So that's the tricky part. That's the thing. Yeah. You've got to pay him.

You got to pay. And like people are going to, I know people are going to bring up in the comments. They're going to say DK was picked 64. Why would you give up 22 for him? Okay. Well, he was picked 64 and that was obviously way lower than it should have been.

He was wide receiver one in that class. He always was. He should have gone way sooner than he did. Now we have realized that. So back into the first round pick, and like I said, if you are planning on using this on a wide receiver, you should do everything you can to use that as the pick to try to go get DK Metcalf.

On a other note, Connor and I were looking up different trade options that we were talking about before the show. And one of them that I thought about was Tyler Lockett to the Buffalo bill. So the other Seattle Seahawks wide receiver, which we were told that they were shopping around a little bit. I was like, Ooh, Tylerler lockett maybe going to the bills right like even if the bills gave up uh you probably you're not you're probably not giving up

25 for tyler lockett but i don't know something like day two pick or something or even if it was an early day to pick you are the bills you were competing for a super bowl this year go and get a really talented player especially with cole beasley being gone and i'm only having now step on digs and gabriel davis like they need another wide receiver in there i don't love tyler lockett with josh allen and then i looked at tyler lockett's contract and it is stupid it's just dumb no one no wonder why the dude can't get traded seattle signed into a deal that no team is ever going to trade for it's unbelievably backloaded i mean i think he goes up to god what was the number i have it right here tyler lockett

he's a 31 million dollar dead cap hit this year he's a 21 million dollar dead cap hit next year, 16.7 mil on the cap. And then in 2024 and 2025, the last two years of his deal, he is on the cap for $23.9 million. And his dead cap hit then goes to $14.7. They are getting a loss on Tyler Lockett no matter what they do with him. This contract is so bad. And the Bills aren't going to take this contract. No way in hell.

No one should. No one's going to take this contract. Number one, he turns 30 this year. Yes. That's a bad start. Let me make that very clear. And we like Tyler Lockett a lot. Oh, I do. Yes.

I mean, you're talking about a 18 pound receiver that is 30 this year that has all this money due at age 31 and 32. That is he's going to be banged up a lot. That's Seattle is in a bad spot, in my opinion, where I truly don't have the answer of. I mean, I'm always in like if you don't know the answer blow it up that's always my thought process it's not the opposite side if you don't have the answer go for it um which you know that's that's not the idea blow it up but like you said they have some situations like this that are on you can't move them you can't do anything with it so okay so you brought up the bills uh potentially being in on that, and then you realized that couldn't work. My next trade is for the Bills. And the Bills, to me, are a Super Bowl-ready team.

They don't need these big player classes. They need legit pieces. I say your offense was awesome with Josh Allen, and you obviously have ascending talent, whether it's Dawson Knox and Gabe Davis. You have a bona fide stud, obviously, in Diggs. In this situation, I'm saying just build onto it. The Bills trade 25, which is their first-round pick,

57, their second-round pick, and 130, that's their fourth pick. That comes in at about 1,100 points. They go up to 13 overall, which Houston now has from Cleveland. And the Bills draft Traylon Burks assuming Drake London's gone all right like Drake London went to Atlanta at eight the Jets 10 commanders not there don't think he'll be there okay so I want to be fair and actually really like this Traylon Burks fit because when you look at the Bills the structure of their offense they do need a player that can handle some gadget roll situations

from their backfield and they don't really have that guy with burks he can handle your jet sweeps you can motion him around you can use them on shallow crossers to get the ball in his hands tight end screens and then obviously also play him as a true wide receiver and get him vertical so if you have digs dav Davis, and Burks, and you can play him as a big slot, which is really fun in this offense, with Davis and Diggs, Burks and Knox in the middle of the field, and he blocks.

And we'll get to the Houston thing in a second, though. Trevor, I really like Trayvon Burks in the Bills offense, and this would give them basically a juggernaut at this point on offense. We've talked about it so many times before on this podcast. It is an arms race in the NFL, not just in the AFC, not just where the Bills currently are. You've got to get better playmakers than the team that's lining up against you.

Josh Allen is playing the quarterback position as well as any player on the planet right now. Go make sure that he also has the best weapons to potentially throw to this. I love this idea. I don't know how aggressive Brandon Bean would be to go up and move from 25 to go get a wide receiver, but obviously they've done it before, right? They traded their first round pick straight up for Stefan digs. And so they've done things like this in the past.

So I think the mindset maybe would be there. And if this was in any way on the table, I think they'd think about it. I think the thing with it is, why it makes sense for the Bills is, you can give up pick 57 because the chances of that player contributing in your championship run is very low in this draft. Other drafts, maybe not.

In this draft, not great. Whereas Houston going back, Houston already had a top 10 pick, so they got a premium player already. Now they move 13 and they go back to 25, which is a big jump. But getting 57 and 130, one of those two players very well could be a factor for you two or three years from now. It's a developmental player that's going to go into your rebuild, that is going to be a part of your process long-term, because you're not a championship window. It's really the Atlanta argument you did with the Eagles all over again. And Houston, they got to load up and get as much talent as they can in the top 100 of this draft.

The Bills instead zone in on one premium player that, once again, can make their offense just a total powerhouse more so than it already was all right i got one more trade that i want to talk about that's a realistic trade and then we're going to get into at least one of them from us which are just these these crazy wild trades that would be that would that would shake the league in certain ways but okay the probabilities are a little low, but we do want you guys to hear it. Before I read off my last thing,

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whether it was maybe the chargers going super all in and trading up. I don't know if I could see that as their player that they would really trade up that much for same thing for the Baltimore Ravens. I already used the Eagles a little bit there. And I just kept coming back to the Atlanta Falcons as a team that has to move back in the draft. And I think the Eagles were potentially an option for them, but if they want to go a little bit further down, say pick number 20 with the Pittsburgh Steelers, Malik Willis does not go number two overall. And if he does not go number six overall to the Carolina Panthers, I think the Steelers are going to be on the phone to get into the top 10 and go get this dude. I think a first round pick this year. So Steelers given up number 20, a fourth round pick this year. So one 38 and then a 2023

first round pick. So Atlanta getting two first round picks here, swapping for number eight. Obviously the Steelers go up to eight and draft Malik Willis in the top 10. Falcons, basically best player available, right? We're talking, if they're looking wide receiver, maybe Chris Olave or Traylon Burks is still there at number 20.

You know, if there's a certain O-lineman who's sliding a little bit down the board, maybe a pass rusher. Like we said, this team has so many needs they could fill with best player available. But the important part, Connor, here is that they would be getting a first round pick next year, which you figure Atlanta is probably not drafting a quarterback in this year's draft. They might want to load up on the ammunition to get themselves in a position to draft a Bryce Young, a C.J. Stroud, a Tyler Van Dyke, a Spencer Rattler, somebody. So this gives them ammo for next year to continue to get those premium players, maybe the premium player with their eyes on the quarterback class next year. So I thought of it. I thought this one might have some legs as well for both parties involved.

I love it. And I think you could go back to the trade I did before with Houston and make that similar argument. You nailed it. The 2023 draft capital is going to be really important to a couple teams, right? And I have one for our next segment where I'll show that you have one here where it's very important for the Falcons. Teams like that, that they might be in on that quarterback class. They might like that draft better if they

don't win this year they're not going to be fired they have a little bit of insurance uh so you and for the Steelers it's you know it's not the opposite necessarily but they know they need to get one this year they know they need to get things back on track obviously they they legged through it with Big Ben last year and that was a tough situation for everyone they have a they have a great defense they have a run game. They made some tweaks to the offensive line and free agency. Get a young quarterback in there that can make some plays with those wide receivers

and start looking towards your long-term future now. I agree. I think this makes sense for these. Are we getting into the craziness now? Yeah, it's time for the madness. Okay. So full transparency here. Trevor and I made the rundown for today's show.

Yep. And when we make the rundown, we could see each other's notes. We each have a column. But what we did was, for this part, we wrote ours in at separate times when we were not in there and blacked it out. We filled it with just our crazy traits. So we have no idea what we're about to throw at each other right now i have two one of them i needed to i really needed you to not see but i need to all be not shown for you know continuity okay who's who's running who's

starting this who's starting this you should you should You should start it. You were the one who initially came up with the, my trade is so good, I've got to black this out so he doesn't see it until we do it live. So I have to hear yours. I've got to hear it. I think you're going to really like it. And I actually, the more I think about it, I don't think it's as insane as impossible.

Oh, here we go. Now he's talking himself into it, folks. This is where it gets good. I'm not looking. I'm not looking. I'm not looking. I just took the highlighter off. The Bucks trade 27 and 59

and a 2023 first rounder. Tom Brady's back. They're going for the Super Bowl. 27, 59. That's 990 points. And a 2023 first rounder. Tom Brady's back. They're going for the Super Bowl. 27-59. That's 990 points. And a 2023 first rounder, which against Felipe Franks

and Sam Darnold in that division, they are going to be making very late in the first round, so it's not a great future first round pick. To Seattle for number 9 overall. The Bucs go all the way from 27 to number nine and draft a tumbling Kayvon Thibodeau. It's not nuts.

It's a little crazy, but it's not like no chance. You know the thing that might actually hold this back the most is simply them already having joe try and show yinka on the roster it's not even the thought process because funny enough i also wrote one down that has to do with the bucks moving up and going all in it just wasn't that bold it wasn't it wasn't all the way to number nine i think i had them hold on let me uh i've got it here what were the exact stipulations that i had i have the bucks trading okay so i have the bucks trading a first round pick next year and their

first round pick this year so two first round picks to go up to minnesota number 12 and the bucks draft either j Davis or Javante Wyatt. Cause I think that they might lose in Dominican Sioux and might not have William Golsan. So then I'm just going interior defensive line. And then Minnesota moving back to 27 gets in Florida. I absolutely floored it.

Yeah, you did. You did. You did. You did. And then Minnesota can either get a Kyrie Elam, Andrew Booth, David Ojabo,

boy, a mafia. That's a great situation. Everybody wins. And then 2023, they can draft their quarterback of the future. They have the extra first rounder. I did the same thing for Seattle here. They have the extra first rounder.

So we were basically the same exact thought process. I just looked at it and I was like, yeah, you got Shaq Barrett rushing from one side. Let's put KT across from him. And, you know, JPP, it's obviously kind of over there. Yeah, right. I don't think he's coming back i'm so i'm just thinking of of of todd bulls on a third and long getting shack barrett vita vea cave on tibido joe try on show yinka all on the field just like at the same time devin white probably flying up the a gap right then it's just like it's madness what are

you gonna do at that point who what offensivegap, right? And it's just like, what are you going to do at that point? What offensive line is stopping that? So listen. It's the fastest front in the NFL with those guys on the field. You're an absolute madman, and I love you for it. All right. Are you looking at the sheet, or do you not want to look at the sheet for mine? I don't want to.

I'm going to scroll the way. Okay. All right. He scrolled away. All right. All right. I'm taking it away. Okay. All right. He scrolled away. All right. All right. I'm taking it away. Okay.

All right. Oh, boy. Jesus Christ. What is it? The New York Giants. Okay. Trade number five overall. Number 81, which is a third round pick,

and they have three third round picks this year. Okay. So it's one of their third round picks. A 2023 first round pick and quarterback Daniel Jones to the Arizona Cardinals for Kyler Murray and a 2023 second round pick.

So let me break down for you. Okay. Essentially the Cardinals are trading a third round pick or sorry, the Cardinals, the giants are trading a first round pick next year and the Cardinals are trading a second round pick next year. So they are swapping. They're essentially just swapping the difference there.

So it's not like a major difference in the trade there the big meat and cheese of the trade is number five overall a third round pick this year and daniel jones for kyler murray and the new york giants do kyler murray kyler murray gets the hell out of arizona which he's pissed about he gets to go to the giants he gets to work with brian dable which is awesome yeah it's a good fit that's my crazy trade it's not so it's so insane and it that's definitely the most insane one we'll go through um what does arizona do be bad ride daniel jones this year and see what they can make out of daniel jones but then they have number five overall this year so like if they wanted to because arizona's got i think some needs obviously along the defensive line and then the offensive line as well if they wanted to

pick a quarterback this year they could but then arizona goes all the way up to number five and then you also have the luxury of them maybe going up to number five and also trading back a little bit if they want so like all of a sudden arizona has all of this draft flexibility because if they were to do this trade they get number five and they still have number 22 right they're not wait is 22 what is it 23 23 23 that was yeah 23 green bay 22 so they would have number five and number 23 maybe they move back from five a little bit into the teens. Maybe somebody wants to jump up to five. I don't know.

But they could draft a quarterback this year if they wanted. Or they could, again, punt it a little bit until next year. And next year, they also have two first-round picks. So all of a sudden, Arizona now has a first-round pick in two first-round picks this year, two first-round picks next year, and they kind of get to have the customization to do a lot of whatever they want there in a roster that, if you ask me, is not as close to competing at a high level

as the early parts of their record last year. I agree. So this is Arizona taking a hard look in the mirror and realizing that they're not exactly where they need to be. And look, if Kyler Murray was happy where he was, I don't even think that I would propose this. But the problem is that he's not. He's pissed and he wants to get paid. And you don't want this situation to become like what russell wilson was in seattle now obviously russell wilson got a major haulback from the seahawks but russell wilson has also been one of the best quarterbacks over the last 10 years and is a super

bowl winner and played on an mvp level last year and so it's there's there's a difference i think so arizona takes a good hard look at the mirror they move on from kyler murray if kyler murley is disgruntled with them they get a good package back they get daniel jones like maybe they like daniel jones i don't know and then the new york giants actually get a really good quarterback that they could fully believe in and brian dable gets a fun quarterback weapon that he gets to work with again so there's so if i was arizona in that situation and i think kyler murray would actually love that because he goes to new york and gets paid a ton of money and works with dable if i was arizona in that situation i would try to sell off like five or 23 and get first rounders for next year now i know you got the first rounder already

for 2023 from the giants and the pick swap and they'd have their own first rounder i would try to get a third first rounder and then use all three of those picks to go back up for CJ Stroud. Like, or like at that point or Bryce young, like at that point, if you are Arizona and you trade up the five or you have number five, you call the Pittsburgh Steelers and be like, give me stuff from,

give me stuff from next year. So then all of a sudden, then all of a sudden Arizona has got three first round picks next year, two first round picks this year and a second and two second round picks next year too, as well. So that's like a major rebuilding opportunity for them. And I kind of like it,

man. It's a little, it's a little mad scientist. I mean, people that if anyone gets actually mad about this, like we're not actually trading Kyler Murray to the giants, but we're presenting a scenario, how you can maximize a disgruntled player uh for an insane amount of draft capital rather than just

chasing just sean watson and i know baker mayfield's not even close to kyler murray's level but basically nuking your own asset in baker mayfield who we had traded for pick number 137 on today's show so So there we go. That was my, that was my mad. We should probably stop talking about this because the more that we talk about it, the more I actually wanted to, the more I'm actually convincing myself that it could happen. So we've got to move on. All right. So the last one for me is really not that crazy. I just didn't fit it into the first segment. It's a, it's a little off the walls here talking about the giants. This is the opposite direction for them. I have the Raiders. Let's just call it what it is. The Raiders signed Chandler

Jones. Really good player, but an older player. They traded for Devontae Adams. Amazing player, but definitely getting older, but still amazing. Say what you want about the Raiders. They're trying to win right now. They don't care about the Broncos. They don't care about the Chiefs. They don't care about the Chargers. Say whatever you want about the Raiders, but hats off to them. They are trying to win right now. To me, they have a glaring hole on the offensive line that in that division against Khalil Mack and Bosa,

obviously the Chiefs front, obviously the Broncos, it's going to be tough for them to keep Carr upright with Brandon Parker on the right side, or whoever they have to play on the right side. I know Parker's actually a free agent. Alright, I follow you. I think the Raiders should trade their 2023 first rounder,

come back to the top of round two, which would be to a team that's willing to move, because the Giants have so much time. The Giants have picked 36, and take the top tackle on the board, which hopefully would be Tyler Smith in this scenario. And Tyler Smith's your starting right tackle. Yes.

That means you didn't pick in the first round this year. That means you didn't pick in the first round next year. But if you want to be all in, be all in, don't do one foot in one foot out. You've got a glaring hole in the offensive line. This is a good tackle draft. It might not be a good tackle draft next year,

and it might not matter next year because it might be too late because this year didn't work out for you uh so when i look at teams mortgaging some of the future i and i would have made that you know a trade for the raiders you know to go get lyle collins or whatever it may be before he was cut there's not a lot of right tackles on teams that get moved or looking to get moved the patriots brought back trent brown the right tackle market's just, you know, Teron Armstead's a left tackle, and it looks like he's talking to Miami. The Raiders got to get a little creative now

without picking in the first and second round, and this is the only way I think they could do it. I don't hate this idea. Tyler Smith would be tough for them because you're throwing him in right away, and you and I have talked about this before, how we like Tyler Smith a lot. There's work to be done. Him starting right away and you and i have i've talked about this before how we like tyler smith a lot but there's work to be done him starting right away might just be like a lot of a lot of lumps

early on and so i mean i'd still like the tyler smith pick but yeah if you could get somebody if you could get somebody that you could guarantee to step in right away i mean i don't hate it i like i don't think they do it obviously but I don't think anybody does these trades that we've talked about over the last 10 minutes. This is very far-fetched. It's an interesting idea, though. I do like it. If a certain offensive lineman's on the board,

hell yeah, man. Go get aggressive. Go do it. They're putting all the chips in the middle. When we do a show like this, it makes me wish that NFL GMs were a little bit more creative or less afraid. I think we've started to see it like the Rams, obviously what they've done, you know, obviously what the Broncos just did going to get Russ.

We've seen a little bit of it this year, but these are outside the box ideas. And I'm not talking about the crazy segment. I'm even talking about the first one that I just think, you know, a little I'm curious when we get a mad scientist GM somewhere, you know a little i'm curious when we get a a mad scientist gm somewhere you know kind of who's who's like a coach comparison right now that i'm looking for like even what brandon staley did going for fourth down all the time you know before the 50 yard line who's going to be the gm that does something and all the old talking heads go we've never seen this before this guy's an idiot it's like, it makes you think a little bit.

Right. I don't know if we're ever going to get there, but it'd be interesting. Yeah. And that was the whole point of this podcast episode is to just get people to think a little bit. You know, there's obviously trades that we threw out there. They're a lot more realistic than the other ones, but I think it was fun all around, man. Especially, you know, know for me i grew up

playing madden and doing fantasy drafts and doing all that and just trying to create my own team in any way shape or form i know you were the same way so yeah i knew this was going to be a very fun segment we didn't get to i don't know if there's any other players that you want to shout out like we talked about potential trades with daniel hunter but his contract especially with that roster bonus kind of makes that hard we also talked about michael thomas the worst contract in the nfl so so i brought that up connor and i were talking before the show and i brought up tyra lockett and then i and then i said to him i was like oh what about michael thomas like it seems like he doesn't want to be in new orleans and that could be an interesting one and connor's like low-key that's probably the worst

contract in the nfl and i'm like there's that i mean that can't be true that's got to be an interesting one and connor's like low-key that's probably the worst contract in the nfl and i'm like there's that i mean that can't be true that's got to be an over-exaggeration and uh sure enough holy smokes michael thomas's contract is bad dude michael thomas is 38.3 dead cap hit this year he's only a 13.3 on the cap but he's 38.3 on dead if they move on from him. He goes up to 28 and 27 million against the cap over the next two years. And his dead money never gets below 13.6 in the final year in two years. Holy, that is not the guy

that you want not happy to be on your team. Oh boy, that's bad. Yikes. I mean, dude, this contract is like, whoever did this contract was just like, it's like an old person making the joke, like, oh, I'll be dead by the time that's a problem. Seriously?

That's literally the contract. Like, whoever did this contract's like, that won't be my problem by the time in 2024. It's a total nightmare. Bro, it's got two void years on it, too. Oh, yeah, it just i mean michael thomas is not an unrestricted free agent until 2027 dude there's a chance that one of us has like an actual child by the time this contract is off the saints like a real living human being

one of us has 2026 this thing is still on the books oh my gosh that's insane so michael thomas didn't get traded i don't know was there you're waiting for that one we couldn't even put that in the crazy section that's how we couldn't even put it in the crazy section i honestly wanted to i wanted to imagine he gets traded tomorrow dude i talked about like him maybe going to the Bills or him going to the Packers or something, man. This dude can't move. No, no. Did I miss anybody? Or before we get out of here,

I can't remember if there was anybody else that we talked about. No, man, we are on to the guest mock drafts, which is going to be two-thirds of the week on the NFL Stock Exchange, which is awesome, man. We've already booked a ton of awesome people. Like you and I say, you and I cover the draft league-wide. on the NFL Stock Exchange, which is awesome, man. We've already booked a ton of awesome people that, like you and I say, you and I cover the draft league-wide. We cover college football.

We cover the NFL. But we are not traveling with a team. We're not in that game anymore. So bringing some of these people on that are just so day-to-day, boots on the ground with a specific team, I think we'll get some differing opinions on the show than what you and I bring in. And that's, that's always the goal. Dude, it's going to be so much fun because we're going to talk about, we're going to talk to a lot of these people who follow these

teams very, very closely. And we're going to have a lot of conversations about who they think the team is going to pick. But then ultimately at the end of every interview, they themselves will be making each pick as the board falls to them. It's going to be a live continuous mock draft. And so it's a lot of fun to get to look back on this when it's all done and look back on it a year or two years down the road and see where everybody kind of finished

with where the guest mock draft was, where people, what they would have picked and what GMs actually went with. So it's such a fun exercise. I'm so excited to get it kicked off on Thursday. Don't worry, Connor and I, at the beginning of every podcast, it's not just gonna go straight to the interviews,

even on Tuesdays and Thursdays. We'll have about the first 10, 15 minutes to chit chat between us and catch up on any major news that dropped or prospects that we've seen more recently that we've maybe got more film on that we wanna talk about and give a shout maybe got more film on that we want to talk about and give a shout out to. So it'll be interview stuff, but Connor and I'll make sure

that we give our opinions and our analysis and everything. I think throughout that, uh, throughout that journey as well, but very excited to get it kicked off on Thursday. Tune in then we'll see you guys then. Outro Music