NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 269. Early Stock Watch for the 2025 NFL Draft

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

0:00 - Intro 4:10 - Tyler Baron, Miami 9:10 - Quinn Ewers, Texas 17:45 - Tommi Hill, Nebraska 21:55 - Miller Moss, USC 28:20 - Jonah Coleman, Washington 30:40 - Ashton Jeanty, Boise State 33:35 - Jay Higgins, Iowa 43:30 - Day 3 players on the rise 51:55 - Names that you don’t know 59:35 - Trending in the wrong direction 1:03:20 - Outro

Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. In this episode, it is the first stock watch of the season, which means we're talking about prospects whose stock is up, stock is down. We're going to give you a couple of names that you have not heard yet, and some players that we think specifically could go from day three picks from preseason, maybe even into the top 50 when it comes to draft weekend. I'm Trevor Sycamore.

With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sycamore. That is Connor Rogers joining you from a beautiful Cincinnati, Ohio hotel. Connor's in the same spot, but we're coming to you a little bit mobile here because we've the season's begun. The season's begun here. I'm in Cincinnati, back doing studio shows or PFF. So we got to make sure a lot of you guys have been tweeting at me since I sent

out like the content schedule, PFF folks, NFL, LSE rolls on. We're here to stay baby. It ain't going anywhere. Connor, how you doing my friend? I'm great, uh fun obviously first nfl sunday in the books as you and i sit here and record and it was funny to watch that reaction everybody was like oh these new shows are awesome but like the pods dead like or when that one time over summer we didn't record for two and a half weeks and when we came back all the comments are oh god they're back we thought we lost you yeah no we just took a break we're better than ever man we can't roll we can't lose you guys because uh well we're sickos too so we're here to talk about it uh one way or the other so like

connor said uh nfl week one we're we're sitting here recording it's sunday evening which means week two of college football is in the book so we wanted to give a little bit of stock watch you know week one can get a little overreaction but week two we got a couple of games under our belt we can at least see a little bit of trends now here on this stock watch episodes we're going to talk about stock up stock down as that is true to the channel and true to the name we're going to talk about a player that was probably a day three guy going into the season that could very well be playing their way into the top 50. A la like a Jaden Daniels. I mean, a Joe Burrow one.

You know, those guys are obviously like the far end of the spectrum to be top three overall picks. But everybody always asks those questions. So we're going to be throwing out some names. It's like, hey, you know, this guy's kind of coming out of nowhere. And who knows? Maybe he'll end up being a top ten pick. Maybe Tyree Wilson is maybe a better example of that because he went what eight so he climbed all the way from being like a day three pick the number eight overall so maybe that's a little bit

yeah even you know devon witherspoon yeah yeah witherspoon i think it's probably the same way you know day three guy climbed all the way in the top 10 so we're gonna try to get ahead of it because we know that people love to ask those questions um and then we're always on these episodes gonna try to give you a name to know a new name that even throughout all of summer scouting we did not mention yet and we already have a handful of guys that uh we're going to be getting to over the next couple of weeks but we'll probably make this a regular installment just so we can keep checking in on uh updating the big board new prospects everything man so you want to start off with some stock up guys i feel like that's probably a good way to do it.

Yeah, I think it's perfect, especially I like the way we structured this because it feels like that, you know, we can we there's guys we have to talk about, right, because they're just so noteworthy in the draft world. And then it's good for us to kind of force ourselves to bring new names into the show because shout out to our audience. Like if you've listened all summer, you already have heard about the 140 names or whatever we've talked about so far so you're here to hear about more players so i guess i could start right there trevor and like you said we're going to get into some unique categories in a little bit but this is a more broad open structure

this guy i haven't talked about this guy on the show but he's not in my like new player category tyler baron the edge pass rusher for miami who is a transfer um from tennessee he's he has four sacks through two games this year he had one against florida three against florida a and m and i know some people sit there and be like okay he absolutely demolished florida a and m but the traits on this guy really really jump out out. He's got long arms. He gets off the ball. I think he has a varied rush approach. This is somebody on a Miami team that looks like they are going to be really in a fight to win the ACC this year, just with the quarterback they have and all the talent they have. They have great situations like this where they go get transfers and transfers that can play right away. And look really really good Tyler Barron is someone to me that I'm really excited to watch

because it felt like his last year at Tennessee he was a solid player right his senior season in 2023 he had a career high five sacks you know he was making tackles he was out there playing he was solid but it feels like him in this Miami defense already four sacks through two games. This is someone that should log double digit sacks in his final college season. And maybe he's just figured it out. Cause when you look at the body type, the long arms, and once again, his ability to be explosive off the football, cross the face of tackles, rush around the corner low, it's all there for him. And maybe he just needed the right opportunity. So I really, really have enjoyed these first two games from him. And he just kind of throws himself in the middle of this edge class real quickly.

Yeah, I was going to say, you know, when we look at the edge class overall, Nick Gordon, I got as the top edge rusher in this class. And then you get into a couple of traits he players, like really traits he players with Michael Williams and Abdul Carter and James Pierce Jr. You can throw Prince Lee, Oman Mielen in there if you want to as well good yeah I think that he has been obviously showcasing just really good speed ability as an edge rusher we've already seen that in the early parts of the season with him in Ole Miss which is great because he's gonna start to Ole Miss is gonna start to play a little bit tougher of competition and I would love to see

if like okay is this gonna maintain for Prince? Because it was able to at Florida. There's just really nobody else along the defensive line who could help him. So I'm interested to see if that looks even better with Ole Miss. But, you know, you get a lot of these guys with a ton of traits. And O'Connor kind of feels like that sort of class, you know? Skorton's a little bit more of sort of like an all-around edge rusher. Not to say that he doesn't have traits, but, you know, he wins in a really all-around way, like a blend of speed and power.

He's around 200 and, what was it, like 270 pounds. Like, he's just a bigger edge rusher, but he's winning with, like, a spin move, you know, a cross chop, like all these kinds of stuff. And so he's much more of a technical rusher. But then you get even a little bit further down and I'm looking at the big board. I think Jack Sawyer, Tweed Maloow,

those are sort of guys that are in the Nick Gordon conversation, but then a Jalen Walker, a Patrick Payton, like Danny Dennis, Danny Dennis Stutton from, from Penn state. Like these are guys who are total traits, the edge rusher.

So if, if Baron is somebody else's in the category, we might just have a edge rush class full of these high traits players. And it really, I think if that's going to be the case, a lot of people are going to say, man, nobody in this edge class really knows what they're doing,

but we have seen the NFL gravitate. Even in recent years, I mentioned Tyree Wilson already I mean Trayvon Walker for goodness sake jumped all the way up to nine number one overall just because those traits mean so much so I think this is a great another name to bring to the table I don't have him on the mock draft simulator right now because I haven't watched him yet but now that you bring him up I gotta watch him but just hearing what you're saying, another player to add to this list, it just feels like a very tracy edge rush group that we've got building in 2025.

Exactly right, Trevor. And I wanted to get the right height and weight before I said that. So I didn't lead with that because I know he's listed for Tennessee at 6'5", 260. The official I have on him, he's about 6'4 1⁄2", 255. So he's probably playing at 260. He's big. I mean, 6'4", 250, can host the pod. Can host the podcast.

If you ever need to go on vacation, like. Tyler Barron. Tyler Barron, call him up. He's got the seat, for sure. Yeah. Big dude, really well built, really good athlete. And someone that, you know, if you're asking, hey, where was he projected, you know, before transferring to Miami? If he had declared last year, he's probably a late fifth rounder. And now, you know, I'm just looking at some potential grades that he has coming into the season.

And if I mean, if he goes 10 sacks and looks this good and goes to an all star circuit circuit and wins some one-on-ones, like you're probably looking at a third round guy or a second round guy. Yeah. No, love it. Love it. Love the shout out there. So for my first stock up, this'll be an interesting conversation here that I think we get to have. And it's one that you mentioned at the top of the show, we were going to have a couple

of these that we just needed to bring up because it's national notoriety and it means a lot to the 2025 NFL draft class. But Quinn Ewers, man man quarterback out of Texas uh we talked about Quinn Ewers when we went through our quarterback summer scouting and yep some of Quinn's film last year is tough like he is still from in 2023 that was 2023 season he is still a ways away from really being that nfl type of quarterback now you can see the flashes of the arm town and everything like that but the consistency just was not there for him especially when it came to throwing intermediate and throwing deep he just was not able to put the ball exactly where he needed to at the timing that he needed to put it there. This year, through two games already, I understand it's Colorado State, but then he went in the

big house and was able to do this a little bit. To me, Connor, he looks much more calm and confident in the pocket. His pocket management last year, I thought, was far from what it needed to be for him to be considered this top half of the first round potential top 10 overall draft pick and I think some people who listen to the show the addicts were like whoa whoa you know we've heard that Quinn's gonna be this first round guy you guys don't even have him in like the first round category and it was because of that just not being able to navigate pressure the right way the footwork being a mess when pressure was there. And more specifically, when he had the opportunities to sort of navigate that pressure, yet keep

his eyes down the field, he didn't really do that last year. He's doing that this year. And Michigan was a huge test for him because even though they ended up sort of running away with that game, Michigan's got a good D-line. We're talking about Mason Graham. We're talking about two great edge rushers as well. Some speed at the linebacker spots, two good safeties, right? And so you've got to be able to navigate pressure within the pocket, but also be able to keep your eyes downfield to make some of those throws and

figure out where the safeties are mid-play. Connor Quinn did that really well last week. There's some accuracy issues still with him. He likes to play a little backyard ball, maybe a little bit too much still, but I was very impressed with his confidence and how there was no hesitation with how he moved up about the pocket and was able to keep his eyes downfield so pocket management was a big issue I had with him the year before that it looks like he is remedying now and now that I've seen that we get to start to talk about some first round traits and talents that he might have as a pure thrower so now I think the conversation really starts to begin with Quinn Ayers and how high he could go in this draft it's a great call out by you. Quinn is, I liked him a lot more during the summer than I thought.

I will say that, but I agree with you. There was some massive red flags on tape, especially throwing the ball down the field, the lack of accuracy, because how unorthodox he would kind of have, kind of find himself in these situations where it's like, man, you're just not going to consistently throw the ball accurately. By the way, your lower half is crazy. Your upper body mechanics are not always the same and consistent.

And this year there was flashes. I thought there were flashes last year of him understanding, though, what the offense wanted to do. And I feel like a full offseason coming into this year now, it's just it's all there. He understands exactly what the offense wants to do. He understands what coverages are being thrown at him and how to throw against them and how to play point guard

and the unique ways he can distribute the ball, how quickly the ball gets out, just to let his guys get catch-and-run opportunities. The play that was called back that was a touchdown throw, that was a really nice throw out of structure a little while right a little bit of a wild man throw but i mean that's sort of the quinnier's experience and he gave you a better version of that there it is and you know you're right that this class we weren't really waving the flag for round one quarterbacks this summer i think we were kind of looking at cars Beck and saying, hey, he's got a shot.

I know you were higher on the potential of Wegman, and I was higher on the potential of him too, and he looks further away. But I had Quinn and then Shadur in this bucket at QB2 and QB3 where I was going to watch them neck and neck this year and go, are both of these guys going to play themselves into the first round? And I don't think either has done that yet, but I think Quinn has taken the proper steps of how confidently he's operating the offense. I don't want to give Quinn Ewers credit

for something that people aren't talking about enough. Can you imagine being the guy playing in front of Arch Manning? Yeah, I think, I think the composure to sit there and not get rattled, knowing that every time you throw an interception, people are going to be chanting for the next Manning to take your job. I honestly thought there was a world where Quinn Ewers, after he didn't enter the draft last year, I'm like, is he going to transfer and be one of the best transfer quarterbacks on the market? This seems kind of unprecedented, but instead he kept kind of his feet

on the ground and said, listen, I know this offense. I'm ready to lead this team. And the results have been really, really good early in the season. I think that it's a really good point by you is that not only does he seem to be playing better under pressure, there is more pressure on him this year than even there was last year because of some of the outside circumstances that you mentioned. So, you know, those things go into it. I really do believe that.

And when NFL teams look at Quinn Ewers, I wonder if there was maybe just a, you know, I don't mean for this to come off as harsh, but he's a young quarterback. He was a young, and I think that this word also sounds a little bit harsh, but hot shot quarterback, five star coming out of high school. I mean, the long blonde hair. I mean, he was, I mean, like this dude was just, he was the crown jewel as the quarterback of that recruiting class. And I wonder if the NFL kind of looked at him and some of the immaturity that he still had in his game last year and wondered like, hey, this guy just didn't there yet.

Is this guy just coasting off of a top recruiting rating? And this year, I think his play shows the demeanor and the mentality of somebody who is approaching it at a more mature level. And I want to give him credit for that. I really do. And key point, you talked about him playing against a good Michigan team. I thought Kelvin Banks was really good this week, by the way. I thought he had a good performance against a team that like, hey, I want to see him against the best.

And I thought he was good. I think that's a really good shout out. You know, a specific example I'll get to with Quinn is, you remember that slant pass that he threw to 80 Mitchell right at the beginning of the Oklahoma game last year, where he kind of like double clutched it. And it was a horrendous throw and it got picked because the corner was reading it the whole way.

And it's almost like Quinn with Quinn, like watch the corner, read it. And he goes, well, I'm still supposed to throw this. So I'm going to throw, so I'm going to throw this ball.

And you know, I don't want to jinx him. This is going to suck.x him he does this next week but i don't think he's he's gonna do that anymore like i think those throws are kind of out of his now every quarterback will take a chance on a slant because it's such a timing thing and you're going to take a chance on it and it could a pbu and interception that could always be the result but the way that throw was a failure for him where the feet stopped moving he double clutched he hesitated and then he tried to make up for it because he's like nah i got a big arm i'm going for it i don't think that runs through his mind anymore and i think that is a visible maturity in his game that we've already seen through two games and i hope

that it continues i really do because i think he can be a fun quarterback prospect totally with you we'll keep our eye on quinn ewers and see how you know if he can keep on this trajectory that he's found himself on it's it's certainly a wide open quarterback class oh man it really feels like the nfl is just begging somebody to take the reins. Yeah. And honestly, folks, there's a world where, you know, you and I were texting about this a little bit. Sometimes it doesn't happen. It's, you know, there is a world.

Like, we talk about how Kenny Pickett was taken in the first round that year. But everybody kind of looked at each other that year and like, I don't, there's just not a guy. You know, some people believed in Malik Willis' traits. Some people like things about Desmond Ritter. Some people like things about Pickett and his potential floor. And at the end of the day, it didn't look like there was a guy in that group, that specific group.

I think there's more high-end talent in this class than there was in 2022. Like the traits, maybe. Yes, I think there are more traits. But will they be as developed as they need to be come draft time? We'll see. Who's next on your list for a stock up? Who are we doing next?

And far and away, Brock Purdy is the best quarterback in that class. It's amazing. Like far and away, the best quarterback in that class. Incredible. Next up on my list is Tommy Hill, the corner from Nebraska that had

maybe the biggest moment of the weekend or one of the biggest moments of the weekend with the picks. When you get a pick six. Speaking of double clutching a throw to the sideline. And I have to throw this. Oh, man. So Tommy Hill will get the attention for the pick six off of Shadur. But I thought the rest of this game deserves just as much attention and why I say that is they went after him I don't know if it was I mean he drew a

lot of Travis Hunter so naturally you're gonna see the ball come your way right yeah Tommy Hill just to recap real quickly he was a summer scouting guy. I had him as, I want to say corner nine. I'll just double check this real quick. Yeah. Corner nine. He's a former wide receiver. He's six feet tall.

He's big explosive corner for Nebraska, but definitely raw coming into the year. He gets the pick six off a Shadur. That's the first time he's targeted in this game. Trevor, he was targeted seven more times in this game after that. And he did give up six catches. But when you go watch them, two were screens. Another one was where he peeled off his man and crashed back down to the flat to make a really nice tackle.

I don't really. He's the nearest offender, but he's not covering the open guy to the flat to make a really nice tackle. I don't really, he's the nearest offender, but he's not covering the open guy in the flat. So I don't really count that as surrendering a catch or not a catch that I personally care about. Right. So that's three of the seven. And the other one, it's like some hitches.

He didn't give up any big plays, is the point. He didn't give up any big plays. He tackles, he's explosive. I really, Nebraska man, let's call it what it is they built that team in the trenches that was on a totally different universe than colorado where they no doubt they demolished that transfer portal colorado offensive line but one way, and Colorado did realize this, Shadur and Pat Shermer and their offense, they realized, okay, we are not going to survive by these deep drops and dropping back and extending plays.

And that's a problem that Shadur has. He does hold the ball a long time. We are going to have to get the quick game going to Travis Hunter. And I thought Tommy Hill did a really, really good job neutralizing their quick game as a tackling corner and a cover corner. And I think that there's, man, 83.7 coverage grade this past week is fantastic. Obviously, it gets boosted a lot because he had to pick six.

But I think that to your point, like not yielding more than what you need to, right? We talk about it, the cornerback position all the time. It's sort of, it's baseball. It's a batting average. You're going to fail most of the time. You know, you're going to give up catches. It's just about those opportunities where you have a chance to make the play. You know, can you get on base, if you will?

And I think that that's something that Tommy Hill is showing that he could do really well. And I think he's got an opportunity to really rise in this cornerback class, right? I think that, you know, somebody who's been a little bit disappointing so far, the two Virginia Tech corners that we like, Mansour Delane's kind of taking his lumps a little bit this season. But overall, I went back and I watched his film because I wondered if he was going to be like a stock down, kind of a candidate for me.

But I watched it and yeah, could he play better? Yes. But I think there's other opportunities where he still played well as a whole. Corner is another one of those positions, sort of like offensive line, where you could play 50 snaps in a game. You end up giving up three big catches. You lock them down for the other 47. It's just people are going to remember the three catches,

and sometimes that's sort of how it is, and I felt like that's how it was a little bit with Mansour Delane. So not super low on him. But I think that Tommy Hill's got a chance to rise. I mean, I had him in the 90s to start the year on the PFF big board. But he has played very well already this season to where I kind of thought that he would be maybe a late day two player. He seems to be rising a little bit and showing that he's got more nfl potential than i

was even giving him credit for at the beginning of the season my next stock up guy i want to talk about usc's quarterback miller moss who we did not go over when we did the quarterback episode uh so he was not on the pff big board for the mock draft simulator when the season began well he's been waiting to play it's to be fair he's he has to evaluate a guy that doesn't play right right we we really had no way that we were going to evaluate this player but you know i didn't go to the usc spring game probably should make that a business i was i was gonna say from new york yeah just go to the go to the usc spring game beach it's a tax write-off i will be doing this next year Yeah. Go to the USC spring game. Go to Hermosa Beach. It's a tax write-off.

I will be doing this next year. I don't know who's... Yeah, it's just tax write-off. That's all it is. No one's expensing me to go to this. Look, I did... USC wouldn't even let me in. I did like him, though.

I really did. I went back... Sorry, I jacked this. And I watched the LSU game, the game that was a really big back and forth between him and Garrett Nussmeier. And I thought that that was a good NFL showing for both of those quarterbacks. But very clearly, when you look at it, yes, they both passed for over 300 yards. Yes, the game was kind of down to the wire.

Very clearly, Miller Moss had the better individual performance, had an elite PFF passing grade that that night uh he had five big time throws compared to Garrett Nussmeier's one big time throw uh so obviously that's going to go much much more in his favor now Moss he's what recruit was he he was a four-star recruit so he's from California he was a four-star recruit redshirted that 2021 year and then he just backed up Caleb Williams uh the other two seasons he ended up graduating college i i found this in in two years so he's already like in a master's program that's how he's a doctor by now yeah yeah they're called doctors uh he graduated college in two years yeah that's what it says

graduated in two years wildly impressive now i think it was usc's player bio that says it so maybe they're you know maybe they're you're over-exaggerating a little bit. It's like, what's his face? The old Dominion linebackers tackles. Oh, Jason. Or is it Henderson? Is that his name? Henderson.

He's got like 75 tackles a game at home. Shout out to him. Miller Moss has got three degrees in two years. All right. Unbelievable. On the homepage. So he's listed at 6 foot two 205 pounds which smaller for the quarterback position 32nd percentile in height seventh percentile weight

something that you watch even in a great game like the lsu game he does not have like a physically imposing arm you know like this is not somebody that's striking fear into secondaries like anthony richardson or uh josh allen or you know it's just it's not that caliber and it's even not to the caliber of some of the better armed talents that we have in this class right like Quinn Ewers is somebody who's who comes to mind it's like wow okay like all the armed talent in the world you know I think that this is somebody that you um that you're obviously seeing in an NFL future with because of how he could spin it but what miller moss does is he analyzed the game at a really high level but there's so much pinpoint accuracy from him already which is you could say like oh man all that time

like waiting has paid off sometimes it's really hard to look that good when you don't have a lot of regular snaps right yeah and i was really impressed with him because I think the things that he could control while being a backup for three years, throwing motion, footwork, release. Every time you are releasing the football when you are in practice, is it repeatable? Is it going to the same spot? Is the follow through the exact same? Are you putting a tight spiral on it? Is it not wobbling on

you so you're missing the accuracy or you're missing the throwing window are the feet exactly where they should be are you married married all the way up from your footwork through your shoulders and your throwing motion and he is this guy's got a pretty release man he does he makes it look really easy and because of that that's how you saw some sick accuracy and true ball placement throws from him against lsu there were two there were two passes up the seam i don't think they were quite like slot phase but they were sort of slot slot reps where you're going up the middle you're going up the seam and he just layers it in between the defender that is trailing and the safety that's over the top and it's like oh chef kiss that is beauty and he did it multiple

times in that game fearless i love the way that he approached the game i i just i cannot wait to watch him throughout this season because usc is going to continue to have some tough tests and i want to make sure that the qualities of true ball placement are something that remain for him throughout this season because if they do then we might be talking about a guy who has one year of college starting experience who might actually declare for the nfl draft but if it's a little bit spotty well then it's hard to look at miller moss who i already mentioned will not win the off the bus test with the eye test of just looking him on the on the sideline he's not going to win it in how he wows you with his arm but if he can be this assassin with his accuracy we can talk about

somebody for 2025 so i know a lot of people wanted to bring him up i know a lot of people shouted him out in the comments and tweeted at us and all that kinds of stuff so i wanted to bring him up those are my first initial thoughts of him when i watched that first game that he played i liked what i saw i cannot wait to watch more but i do think that he is naturally a stock up candidate because of the potential that I saw in him. Yeah, man, he it's been awesome to watch him get his chance this year because that's kind of a lost art in the sport right now is the guy that was a good recruit and red shirts and then is waiting beyond the red shirt to play and it's just it brings up a fascinating conversation of the benefits of watching learning waiting in the same offense

but you brought up a great point trevor not playing it's it's hard when you're not getting enough reps but he's taking advantage of all of the mental you know benefits he's gotten while waiting and clearly mechanically and just how smooth things look and how mentally prepared it looks is kind of translated to help the physical aspect it's it's been benefiting him big time this year so he's been one of the standout quarterbacks in the country so far there's no way around oh for sure absolutely absolutely who's your uh who's your third stock up guy third stock up guy for me is jonah coleman the running back now at washington he was at arizona he was what'd you say he's been eaten yeah i mean he is a five foot nine 230 pound running back so he was at Arizona.

He was very good for Arizona last year in a more limited role. When Jed Fish took the Washington job from Arizona, he brought Jonah Coleman with him. And that's one of the smartest things so far that Jed Fish did because Coleman looks awesome. I mean, you just look at, number one, the body type. It's not a sloppy 230. He is a rocked up 230 pounds. He now has over 100 rushing yards in both games,

13 missed tackles, force combined in both those games. The thick build, he's a power runner, especially with the stiff arm at the third level of the field. But he has really good feet. There's so many plays. I did a tape breakdown of him after week one for NBC, where the defensive line started to kind of overcommit to one side to break through against him. And he could stop after the handoff and change directions and cut back the other way and make people miss in a phone booth. But then it's, you know, I'm at the third level now.

OK, I'm going to stiff arm the safety or I'm going to let two guys try to jump on my back and I can rumble forward for another five or six yards. It's, it's kind of a complete looking running back to me is what it looks like. Coleman's been as advertised and, uh, he's, he's a big time player that I know it's a loaded running back class, but if he has the kind of year that he's on pace for already, he's going class, but if he has the kind of year that he's on pace for already, he's going to, he's going to shake things up in that group. Yeah. I mean, he has definitely been fun to watch. We talked about him a little bit during summer scouting. He was outside of my top 10 when it came to running backs, but this is somebody who

I just looked it up. We do track how often there's sort of a change in direction for running backs, you know, change of the point of attack and 7.1 percent he's he's able to get on the on that change of direction which is not too bad for a guy who likes to go north to south a lot you know some of these backs they they really they're just like singular focused on exactly where they're supposed to go in their landmarks but um 7.1 percent that's not too bad especially when guys are kind of diving his feet he's able to be a little bit nimble and for a bigger back. I think that that's good. So Coleman, definitely a good shout out there.

Dude, the two guys who are leading the country right now, two summer scouting darlings, Connor Menungi from Rutgers, and then obviously Ashton Jeanty from Boise State. Brother, Jeanty's averaging 229 yards a game. It's insane. He's got over 400 rushing yards. They gave Oregon a scare when everybody was asleep.

Yeah, they did. They gave Oregon a really, really big scare. And it's, I mean, a lot of it is on the back of GNT, right? Dude, he, unbelievable. He, so through two games, he's already got 22 missed tackles forced. And per carry average, that's 0.49, which if you've been listening to this podcast for the last couple of years, you've heard us bring this up before. Trey Benson, his junior, sophomore year, the year before his draft eligible year, going into that that season he had a 0.51 which was like

insane and we were like yo this dude's incredible obviously it was a little bit lower his final draft eligible year but some of the best numbers that we have seen like bijan robinson um trevor etn giovante williams they had 0.42 was their missed tackles forced per attempt. And G&T right now is 0.49. So this would be a historic pace for the young man. I think something that is worth noting is he, I just, I'm sorry. I just saw a 6.1 yards after contact. He's like almost getting a first down after he gets hit.

What an animal. It's unbelievable. It's really's unbelievable that's absolutely crazy holy shit okay um so the receiving part of his game right because when you talk about having true value and i think he's number 12 on the pff big board right now for running back to be able to go in the first round and we are to be able to justify it you've got to bring something to the passing game as well because the passing game it's just worth more when it comes to scoring points than running i'm not saying that running the ball doesn't matter and it's not important and i think that it absolutely matters but for a back to be that valuable and hold that kind of value above his peers you really got to be able to bring elite level ability as both a receiver and a runner running very obvious GD's got it down this year

receiving he's only got 12 receiving yards this year and that's on five receptions over the last two games combined so some people might be looking at this and like all right well he's just you know a really special runner well he had an elite 91.6 receiving grade last year and almost had 600 receiving yards so we've seen it from him before we're just not seeing it this second so i want people to remember that if they've got you know pff premium subscription and looking at his receiving numbers and like no he's not bringing anything to the passing game he can bring something to the passing game he just hasn't yet this season just wait on it last guy that i want to bring up as a stock-up player guy that i'll admit you liked him a lot more than i did during summer scouting and i gotta give him i gotta give him his props right

now jay haggins linebacker for my i love him you were a big fan jay haggins and you know when i looked at him i i sort of looked at his measurables which hold on i had it up here oh none of it makes sense he's about six feet tall what 225 pounds six feet tall 228 pounds of what they have him listed at okay if he were to measure in it exactly what they have him listed at that's 12th percentile and 10th percentile for an off-ball linebacker. I just have a hard time really buying into those guys that don't have the length, the size to be able to take up a lot of room, force more incompletions and coverage, all that kinds of stuff. I appreciated Higgins' IQ when I watched him during summer scouting, but it really feels like the

veteran who's now a fifth year player is just has just taken that to the next level I mean he had an interception I believe it was this past week maybe it was the week before maybe I was watching the games in reverse but he's already got an interception this season um I think he's got an elite coverage grade on the season and I I watched some of his stuff back. The movements of him, he knows where the ball is going. He knows where the ball is going before it's snapped. And you can see it this year even more so than last year. And last year I noted that.

I gave him a pretty high overall processing score. This year it is at an even higher level. So Higgins I think is going to be somebody who's a fan favorite because sort of like Jeremiah Trotter Jr. last year he just sees the game very very well there will be physical deficiencies for him but in an area of his scouting report that I thought really couldn't get higher he was already seeing the game well he He is seeing it higher. He has ascended even further in these first two games, and he is just a total centerpiece for that defense. He is constantly communicating with his teammates,

and again, his movement skills, his flow to the ball, it is one step quite literally ahead of everybody else. So Jay Higgins for Iowa's defense, somebody that might not be physically imposing enough to be a top 50, maybe even top 75 pick, but a damn good football player. And one, I think that people are going to like in the mid to depth pieces of this draft. That's what it comes down to. I mean, once again, somebody I really, really didn't enjoy talking to at big 10 media, just he's the glue in the middle of the defense.

He is so hyper aware that he is physically limited in comparison, so he has to go above and beyond all those intangibles that he has in terms of just seeing every play. It's really a sixth sense how he can see plays develop and get his teammates in the right places and have everybody ready pre-snap and be such a perfect tackler. I mean, perfect, perfect tackler. He doesn't have the greatest, like the, you know, the best play speed. Like you said, Trevor, he doesn't have the greatest raw measurables and skills, but when you are fundamentally perfect, and more often than not, the smartest guy on the football field, you're going to be able to play. And he'll be he'll continue to be

overlooked. I mean, he told me, because I was like, man, like, you've been at this program, you've stuck by this program, on and on and on. He's like, this is the program that gave a barely six feet tall linebacker a chance no one else would. And I was like, well, that's like really hyper aware of who you are. So and honestly, those guys are the ones that make it because yeah, when you when everything's gone perfect for so long, the older you get, it's harder to get punched in the mouth and readjust. But when nothing has gone perfect, and you've always had to kind of scratch and claw, you just know it's the big adversity checkbox and scouting that's what they call it yep i love it i i have two more quick stock up shout outs before we kind of move on here one of

them is the name that this podcast knows from i think the very first year we started doing this show oh baby that's hard to do jalen catalan baby let's go he's back he's back so he's so back so we are back so he's not in arkansas anymore he's not in texas anymore he is at unlb and connor two games into the season two games into the season elite 90.1 pff grade he's already got an interception this season 89.8 coverage grade jalen catalan is so back brother he's so back we're in we're back in we have to be and then the other the other player that i wanted to shout out dylan stewart from south carolina have you watched him at all um he's a freshman he's a freshman and i know people are probably listening you can't miss him brother you can't miss him

i i i would draft dylan stewart no hyperbole i would draft dylan stewart in the top 10 this year it's it doesn't even make sense the way he moves on the field at his size that doesn't even make sense that first game that they played against Old Dominion I was like this you could be you could be showing me a pro bowl reps of an NFL player right now so when I saw him the reason I do know he is in full transparency i always i don't know a lot of freshmen in the country right like i do the draft i mostly do nfl throughout the week i know a lot of it's for you so my college depth is the guys that are eligible and the freaks but he's a guy where the first time i ever saw him take a rep off the edge, I right away looked him up.

I'm like, there's just no way. There's no way this guy could be eligible because how do you miss someone like this? And I'm like, he's not even going to be eligible next summer. He's not even eligible to drink a beer. He's 18. He's barely eligible to vote. Right. He can barely get cigarettes or chewing tobacco.

He's hardly eligible to lay his life on the line for this country. Like that point. At that point. But yeah, good call. I mean, unreal. Dude, he's insane. Over 20% passers-win percentage, over nine pressures already through two games. He's already got three sacks. Kentucky literally triple-teamed him on one rep this past week, and he's still got a pressure. He was going up against the on one rep this past week, and he still got a pressure.

He was going up against the right tackle, the tight end, and the running back on the right side, and he still recorded a pressure. This kid's stupid good. He was a top 20 player in the country. He was a five-star. Shane Beamer got a good one. So I just wanted to shout out Dylan Stewart. We're two years away from talking about him in a draft perspective,

but the plays are so nuts, and if you guys have not seen them yet, go watch them i mean they are stupid yeah and it's it's it's it's a six foot five 250 pound 18 year old pass rusher who once again i would draft in the top 10 this weekend uh anyways touchdowns tutties taking them to the house in for six whatever you want to call a touchdown one thing is for sure touchdowns matter more at DraftKings Sportsbook an official sports betting partner of the NFL on the ground in the air special teams defense we don't care how they score them we just want to bet on touchdowns and DraftKings Sportsbook is the number one place to bet on touchdowns if you're ready to place your first touchdown bet it's very easy try betting on something simple I have something coming up this weekend I don't know uh off the top of my head let me just think oh mike evan scored two of those bad boys they're

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guy and say, hey, that's a good candidate for this. I'm gonna go watch a show. I'm gonna comment on the show. I'm gonna get another show. That's what we really want to do here but let me know who your player is who you think could go from being a day three guy to the top 50 about eight months from now before i do that i've just been while you were doing the ads i was thinking how we just glossed over that after years of things not going right jalen catal Catalan chose to take his talent to Las Vegas to get his career back on track. You ever think about that? Bet on himself. Literally, quite literally. Bet on himself. You got to be an absolute madman to go, man, things haven't gone right

for me the last couple of stops, injuries. I'm going to go to Las Vegas and figure it out. Let's go to Las Vegas! Oh, man. But hey, it's working. Hey, it's a numbers game. He's playing the odds. It's just like roulette, baby.

If it's been black six spins in a row, you bet your ass I'm betting on red. Yep. Keep it rolling, Jalen Catalan. All right, so my player that, from summer scouting, kind of a day three guy, but with my little overreaction here after a

couple games could play his way into day two right now ty felton the wide receiver from maryland okay he has 324 receiving yards in two games what three three touchdowns 14 first downs what have i been drunk at the wheel well i didn't i didn't know any of this he's so they kicked the crap out of yukon the first week but against michigan state he had another big day i mean he has 178 yards against yukon 146 against michigan state he's caught three touchdowns he He had eight first downs against Michigan State. Through the two games, he's got over a 92 grade in the PFF grading system. He's caught 18 of his 24 targets. Felton can fly.

He was wide receiver 19 for me at a summer scouting because he can run. There's no denying that. And his big plays are awesome. The biggest thing for Felton is finding consistency six, one, 181 pounds. I wrote the play strength needs to improve. He had a couple of fumbles in 2023. He wasn't winning in contested catch situations at all. He was four 16 last year. He gets bullied around, but he's quick off the line of scrimmage. He shifted through his routes.

He understands how to eat up zone. Felton looks really, really good right now. And listen, he's not making plays in contested situations. He's not even getting those opportunities, but he's just open. He's got nine explosive plays already. So at the end of the day in the NFL, if you can run, you already got a headstart at this position. And Felton just looks really good tracking the ball in. He has really good spatial awareness. I've been really impressed with him and just think that, you know, listen, there's some talent in this wide receiver class, but when you can get over the top of the defense, the way he does and find the football, the way he is right now, the tracking has just been tracking the Michigan state game was a plus. I, you know, I don't want to say slept on Felton, but I'm really happy to

see so much improvement so quickly in his game, knowing the guys that they lost at this position. And another guy I got to talk to a big 10 media days. And I talked to his coach, Mike Loxley, like there was an awareness, not only that they were ready for him to step up as a leader, but ready to step up in a big way in terms of that target share and he's just running away with this right now that's look if you can win deep the nfl is going to give you a shot like if you are somebody who can bring in explosive deep down the field i think deep tracking like you mentioned is an underrated part of these guys who have speed you know it's not just being able to get down the field it's've got to find the ball. Right, you've got to find the football, 100%. So, love the shout-out, man.

I mean, shoot, for a player like that, day three to top 50 would be a big jump. But again, like, if you can win deep, that's a massive part of the game that every single offensive coordinator is trying to unlock. So, we've seen wide receivers get drafted really high on that potential before. We could definitely see it again. So, I in college station in texas this past weekend hell yeah

and i got to watch texas a&m in person and the guys that i was kind of going to see obviously wanted to see connor wigman in person uh wanted to see nick squorton wanted to see shamar turner guys like that but there was another guy that really caught my eye. And as I was sort of talking to people around the Texas A&M program, it was a name that continued to come up. Shamar Stewart. So not Shamar Turner, Shamar Stewart, another defensive lineman for Texas A&M who I did not really know much about. I had heard about him from recruiting because I remember that he was a top recruit.

He was a top 10 recruit in the 2022 class so he's just a true junior this year they have him listed at six foot six 290 pounds and buddy he looks it this dude's this dude's huge just standing next to texas a&m's defensive line on the field, I mean, all these guys are big. But Shamar Stewart in particular, he looks like a future NFLer. He's built kind of the right way, the way that you would want a player who's 6'6", 290 pounds, but an edge rusher to be built. He's got a really thick lower half, big legs, big glutes,

and he is somebody who can explode off the line of scrimmage. Now I will say this. He doesn't quite know what he's doing yet with a pass rush plan or his hands, but that natural strength for him is really showing up consistently this year. He's got a run defense grade of above 70 in each of the last two games, which is great to see. Notre Dame was the first one. McNeese State was his past game.

So he's already sort of raised his floor in that regard. But then there are a couple of reps where once I started to know who he was and heard people talk about him, I went back and I watched him play last year. 15% pass or swing percentage. Now, not a ton of production, but 15% pass or swing percentage. And I watched some of those reps. And, dude, they are violent. I mean, the reps where he really decides what he wants to do before the snap, I watched him hit a couple of club rips on offensive tackles where he is just knocking them to the side,

knocking their hands all the way around, cleanly getting around the outside shoulder and then cornering pretty damn well for a player who's 290 pounds. And so again, he's still figuring out the pass rush profile type of thing. You don't really know what he's doing yet in that area, but I've already seen so much of a baseline of what he could be as a run defender. And then the flashes of what he could be as a run defender and then the flashes of what he could be as a pass rusher we're talking about a player who he's not as dominant in the run game as a Trayvon Walker was yet but he reminds me of Tyree Wilson and how the league saw Tyree

Wilson and just said length length, strength, speed. I got to draft him in the first round. And I don't know where Shamar Stewart is going to end up getting drafted. But again, after seeing him in person, I can absolutely tell you that the NFL is going to try to do everything they can to draft him in the top 60. And if he even keeps playing the same way that he played to start this season, I think he's a team, he's a player that the NFL is going to pick somewhere in the second round because they've just got to take a chance on a guy who is built like this and can move

like this. So Shamar Stewart from Texas A&M is my guy to jump from a day three player to a top 50 player this year. Those are the best part about scouting trips when you get down there on the field and you just find players that you didn't have any idea of coming into or you get a totally different perspective of them. It's really cool to hear that, especially a group, Trevor, where it's hard for a guy like that to stand out

because there's so much damn talent in that freaking group on their defensive line. It's insane. And he's on the field all the time now all the time now so now let's let's give the people a name that they don't know right now a name that you were able to kind of watch a name that you kind of discovered right now that we haven't talked about through uh summer scouting or any time yet uh throughout this process. Yeah, so someone we haven't mentioned on the show, Elijah Roberts, he's edge D-line SMU. I know SMU has him listed at 295. I think I saw Jim Nagy tweet that he's 275. So that's a big difference.

Either way. It's quite the cut. It is quite the, let me see if I have him on a sheet here where. Yeah, and that's what 275 is the sheet I have for his verified weight. So either way, you get the point. He's somebody that kind of is that weird mold of is he an edge player? Isn't the interior player? Can he do both for SMU? But and he's somebody that's not gonna necessarily stand

down he did have a good pass rushing year last year he hasn't really gotten the pass rush going too much this year but he had three massive plays stopping the run against BYU one of them he for one of them he forced to fumble but the strength you could see this guy play with, which is the benefit of these tweener guys on your interior. Because when you have bigger edge players, they could set the edge. They can kind of plow tight ends into the backfield. They can hold the point of attack against tackles. And then on the goal is,

you know, Hey, say it's there long. We can kick them inside because we don't need them to gap and be too unresponsible. Pin his ears back and go. So Roberts is a really, really interesting player because he was at Miami for, he was a former four-star. He was at Miami for three years. He never became a starter. He played in games,

but he didn't, he wasn't starting games. He wasn't overly productive. He transfers to SMU for his regular senior season in 2023 starts all 14 games he has 10 sacks he has a good season right like he's a very productive player and now in 2024 his fifth year you know he's kind of one of the guys for this team and like I said it's just one of the fellas one of the fellas one of the one of the lads one of the main lads. And his dirty work run defense is, you know, something that I think can be NFL caliber. So wasn't on my radar at all this summer. Clearly going to be a part of the all-star circuit, I think.

And somebody that definitely deserves a shout on the show. Hell yeah. Love it. Love it. That's somebody that I got to watch for the NBA. One of the lads, Elijah Roberts. Just one of the lads. I mean, it's just, he's one of the lads. I got another one of the lads that I'm bringing up here in my name that I didn't know. I did not know this player before watching the USC versus LSU game, but you couldn't get one quarter through

that game without hearing Kamari Ramsey's name, their safety, as if we didn't, as if we needed more good safeties in this class. Connor, I'm not just talking about, oh, yeah, hey, here's a fun name. I watched Kamari Ramsey's tape. I watched the LSU game. I watched, I can't remember who they just played, whoever they just played, and then I watched a game from him last year. This is a top 50 player for me now. Whoa.

Dude, I really like Kamari Ramsey. He's a redshirt sophomore. He's at USC this year. He was at UCLA the last two years. Redshirted his first year, started all 11 games the year before. And you watch him. He's got tackling reliability. He closes downhill fast.

He plays from single high, and I think he's got good range, and he's got good coverage instincts. I think he's sort of still working in that area. He's more confident when he's coming downhill. But I think he can develop into a really good free safety as well, because the anticipation for him being a redshirt sophomore already there for him. And I just feel like his game is so all around. He's not afraid to be physical. He's, he's sort of, to me, when I watch him, he is a really great blend of having that athleticism to be able to match against a

matchup against all different types of receivers and also coming down and being physical. Normally, when you look at safety, sometimes they will fill one box or the other. Ramsey truly is sort of a do-it-all guy in that regard, and I was really impressed with the slot coverage reps that he had, whether it was at the goal line, whether it was against tight ends, whatever. he was really covering guys very very well and super confidently he reminded me of a little bit of like how i love javon bullard last year just a tenacity competitive player will shut you down from the slot will come down from depth and really help out in run defense and he's a true slot defender because we talked about this last

year when we talked about some of the guys that could be like corner slot hybrids, safety slot hybrids. You can't just say, oh, this safety is a little bit smaller. Let's play him in a slot. Or, oh, this corner is a little bit smaller. Let's play him in a slot. When you are playing in the slot, you are physically playing closer to the line of scrimmage. You have to defend the run. You have to fit.

Hard hat. And Kamari Ramsey is somebody who can do that, similar to like Bullard, who is somebody who I really liked in last year's class. So I just, again, as a redshirt sophomore, I'm so impressed with how Ramsey approaches the game in the couple of games I've seen from him already. I think that him and his safety partner,

Akili Arnold, are two really good players in this class. But Ramsey's ceiling, I think that him and his safety partner, Akeely Arnold, are two really good players in this class. But Ramsey's ceiling, I think, is even higher than Arnold's, who I also liked going into the year. So it's one of the better safety tandems, especially draft-eligible tandems, that we have in college football so far early on in this season. I'm excited to watch Ramsey throughout because, dude, this safety class, Malachi Starks, Kevin Winston Jr., Billy Bowman Jr., Sebastian Castro, Xavier Watts, Kamari Ramsey, Lathan Ransom, Xavier Wongpa, Keon Saab, Akili Arnold, Dante Trader, Hunter Waller, Rod Moore, Nicky Wanmari. Like, this is, if you need a safety, this is the year, folks.

This is the year. Last year, it felt like almost a, I don't want to say a barren wasteland, but like the pickings were slim after you got past like Tyler Newbitt and maybe if you were in on Kalen Bullock and what he could do as a coverage defender, which Kalen Bullock already an interception here in the NFL in week one, which you love to see it. But like this safety class is so different. So I know people like to talk about that, like to ask us about like that, like, oh,

where's the strengths and weaknesses of this up and coming draft class? It almost could not be better at safety. You've got stars, you got players right behind him, you got deaf players, and you've got traits, you guys that maybe you're taking a chance on somewhere in day three, you have all of these types of safeties in this class. So I love it. Dude, it's, it's crazy to add another talent like that. And I know he's an underclassman. He transferred from UCLA, which that's gotta,

that's gotta hit different for USC when they get a great player from UCLA. Yeah. Yeah. Coaching change. So I get it. I get it. Right. It's just natural.

It happens. And it's kind of a way for you to stay, not go too far, but maybe we'll, he'll declare, maybe he won't at that young age. But it just goes to show you the depth of this group. It is always funny to me doing this as long as we have now, how classes come in waves. It's really weird. Yeah.

It's really weird. I know wide receiver has been pretty steady, but we've had some, you know, steal your phrase, barren wasteland years at tackle yeah and then last year it felt like we had so many gifted tackles and like you said last year really for a while we've been kind of picking through trying to find safeties but this year you don't have to pick too far that's right there's so many talented safeties that can play a lot of different uh play a lot of different roles so it is it's just funny to me uh for before we round out when we get out of here i wanted to mention a couple of like sort of like stocked down candidates although it's a

i don't know if i fully want to say that they're totally stocked down guys because it's only two weeks into college football i think as the year goes on there will be more of like trends like okay yeah this player is not trending in the right direction here this season. But early on, I feel like it's worth mentioning. We talked about Connor Wegman. We were going through the mock draft episode. Wegman, really bad Notre Dame game, really bad pocket management, just looked like he was just way too wound up, was not calm, was not trusting what he was seeing, was not trusting his own ability. It was just all over the place.

So much hesitation in his game there. McNeese State, he only played the first half, and I thought he was fine. But there were still parts where he could have been a little bit more pinpoint, but there really wasn't a ton of opportunity for him to bounce back. They play Florida this week, and speaking of Florida, Graham Mertz, also probably somebody that I have to say, eh, not great. Now, he played most of the Miami game. He got hurt with a concussion.

But like, and so again. Is he going to lose his job? Huh? Is he going to lose his job? I think the answer to that is probably. And that's not all on him. although if he was playing the best version of himself that i thought we might see this year it would be more difficult but i feel like napier might be coaching for his job very very soon if he's not already and i think the only way he really

does that with a lot of weight is if they're five star true freshman dj lagway actually plays because we saw it this past weekend but getting back to mert, the reason why I had Mertz's cue before going into the season is because I love the way that he was able to protect the ball last year. And this year I was like, I'm kind of betting on him now being better throwing deep down the field. That was Jaden Daniels thing, right? Think about Jaden Daniels first year when he was at LSU. He really mitigated the turnover of the plays. You could tell that is what he worked so hard on.

And then he took that as a baseline, that new improved ability to take care of the football. And he then started to push it deep down the field. And we saw a Heisman Trophy from him last year because of it. Graham, even before he got hurt, had opportunities to push the ball deep down the field at a consistent and accurate rate. And he looked very poor doing that in their first game against Miami. So those were the big question marks I had with him going into

the year anyways. And he did not really answer those at all whatsoever, even before getting hurt. So we'll see him again this season. But that was disappointing to see from both of those guys. Some of the high hopes that I had for them to hit the ground running this year, they really didn't do that. Then the only, the only other one that I wanted to shout out is Oscar Delp really liked him from the tight end class going into the season, had him as tight end too. He hasn't played poorly, but they're not giving him the football as a receiver remember we went over the tight end episode and i was like hey brock bowers is gone and i actually liked oscar delp as a receiver when they went to him last year but he's now getting out snapped in the receiving game by lost and lucky already their other tight end so delp was mainly their blocking tight end last

year i thought that was going to blossom into more of a full-time all-around tight end role this year, and it's just not. He's still their main blocking tight end, and I don't know how much work he's now going to get as a receiver this year either, which I'm kind of disappointed about. So I'm not really stocked down on him as a player, but the opportunity to sort of thrive and rise up the board as a tight end in

this class. I don't know if it's going to exist for him this year. Ah, it makes sense. It's a good call out too. It's just, you kind of look at roles on teams and I know people have a lot of questions in the comments.

We're going to do a lot of stock watch all year. Like you want to hear more about cam ward. We get it. You want to hear about the Colorado guys, especially after a tough loss where things weren't going their way at all against Nebraska. Like we're going to we tried to use this show, I think, today to talk about guys that we simply think could have got overlooked or we haven't talked about much yet. But we'll get into the front facing names, especially as more NFL teams, their season starts to go sideways and you want to start attaching potential top talents to players and to teams. Yeah. And we'll do this. We'll do this episode most weeks.

I think we'll do a stock watch episode most weeks. And the way that this episode is going to be, it's achieve its full potential is if you guys help us out, you be our eyes and ears as well throughout college ball season. Let us know in the comment section, who you think is a player who could jump from a day three pick to a top 50 pick. Whose stock is up?

Whose stock is down? A name we have not heard of before. You guys are watching all sorts of college football like we are. So the more names that we have to really be able to dig into, even beyond what we could possibly see on a single college football Saturday

from a single pair of eyes, that's going to help out the show and it's going to make the show everything you guys want it to be. So let us know the best way to do that. YouTube comment section, youtube.com backslash NFL stock exchange. Hit us up in the comments. If you are audio only, you could hit us up on Twitter and Instagram at Tampa Bay Trey

at Connor J. Rogers. But yeah, we'll keep we'll keep rocking with these episodes. We'll keep coming up with new like categories to be able to introduce guys and really be able to shape out the big board throughout the year and get you guys ready for for whatever the end of the season. Big board is whenever we get there. Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here? I'm excited for another episode this week. It's if you guys aren't aware, we're back to two week.

It's going to be awesome. And, you know, a lot to react to from the NFL season kicking off, dude. It's it's going to be great. We're just there's so much football right now. It's overwhelming. I'm trying to like sort through how we attack each single thing, but this is a great story. I think, I think for most weeks,

we'll probably let the first episode be like a college football reaction type of like, yeah, like the stock watch type of thing. And as the NFL season goes on, maybe we'll bleed the stock watch type of thing and as the nfl season goes on maybe we'll bleed the stock watch episode into some nfl stuff but the wednesday episode this week i want to focus a little bit more on the nfl we could talk about some rookie performances highlight some rookies um and then as the year goes on obviously we will check in on team's team needs and the draft order as it starts to shape itself. You know, teams that could be picking within the top five who they might be targeting all the good stuff.

So we think that that would be the best way to do things for you guys is sort of a college prospect stock market on a Monday and then really digging into what's going on in the NFL in terms of a draft perspective on Wednesdays. If you guys like that, let us know. Make sure to do that in the comments section. But other than that, yeah, full steam ahead. NFL got kicked off. College got kicked off. I mean, it's all business now. No fun.

Football? No. No. Fun's over. Oh, well, football is fun. No, it's not. Wait, what'd you say? I said the yacht is docked. The yacht is docked. No, it's not. Wait, what'd you say? I said the yacht is docked.

The yacht is docked. It's never been more over. It's actually raised out of the water. It's in dry storage. We are stapled to our office chairs, just grinding film and watching as many games as you could possibly watch. You know, you say that, but that's actually kind of what is happening. It's it's truly in the best way. It's disgusting.

Last 48 hours in my household. Like because you got to realize usually I'm not home on Sundays because I do jets. Yeah. Pre and post game. It's really counting the commute and doing the show before the game and then sitting through the game and then after the game, it's a full day. Right. And some and some.

So my wife had to realize like the Jets are on Monday night. I'm home Sunday. Wow. I got multi view going from one o'clock sharp to watch all these games. And I'm going to sit here straight through Sunday night football after we really just did this Saturday for college. Oh, and guess what?

It was an NFL game in Brazil on Friday and the NFL was on Thursday. And guess what? I'm working and I'm gone all day tomorrow. So it is awesome. But man, is it a totally different lifestyle to quote joe buck that is a disgusting act we don't think you guys are right there with us though that's why we love you listening to this show we appreciate you i'm not leaving couch edition yeah i'm not the couch edition

i'm trevor sycamore that is connor rogers thank you guys so much for watching and listening to the nfl stock exchange podcast Rogers. Thank you guys so much for watching and listening to the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. We'll see you guys on Wednesday. Bye.