NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 28. Off-The-Cuff Mock Draft (With Trades)

Episode Date: March 28, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers get your week started off right with a new predictive mock drafts with two new elements that made this one different. First, the two did some trading mid-mock draft with pick swaps they believe are realistic. Second, this was an off-the-cuff mock draft with no player selections pre-planned — so you get to hear the guys think out loud through all their picks as if you’re live right there with them. 0:00 - Intro, 3:15 - 1. Jaguars, 4:55 - 2. Lions, 6:25 - 3. Texans, 9:00 - 4. Jets, 11:30 - 5. Giants, 13:25 - 6. Panthers, 15:45 - 7. Giants, 17:50 - 8. Falcons, 20:45 - 9. Seahawks, 23:25 - 10. Jets, 27:30 - 11. Commanders, 28:45 - 12. Vikings, 30:25 - 13. Texans, 31:45 - 14. Ravens, 34:15 - 15. Eagles, 35:35 - 16. Eagles, 36:25 - 17. Chargers, 37:30 - 18. Saints, 38:25 - 19. Eagles, 39:15 - 20. Steelers, 43:15 - 21. Patriots, 44:40 - 22. Ravens, 45:35 - 23. Cardinals, 46:20 - 24. Cowboys, 47:05 - 25. Bills, 48:40 - 26. Titans, 49:25 - 27. Buccaneers, 52:45 - 28. Packers, 54:00 - 29. Steelers, 55:30 - 30. Chiefs, 56:50 - 31. Bengals, 58:55 - 32. Lions

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I got it this year. It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast in this episode my co-host Connor and I have a very special mock draft Monday for you but we've got some new stipulations that make this one a brand new mock draft in a lot of different ways

first off we got trades in this mock draft now I'm not gonna tell you what teams we had moving up and moving down although I think you could probably look at the time stamps and figure out exactly what's there but you got to listen to the conversations as well because on top of that this is an off-the-cuff mock draft we didn't do any planning for this one the order wasn't set the players weren't set this is live off the top of the dome if you will it is essentially a live mock draft that we did. And that means that the trades we did, it was active trade value establishment. We were seeing what picks were worth going up for what teams. And we had a lot of really great back and forth.

Some new destinations for some new players with some new pick locations. It was a lot of fun. I'm Trevor Sikma. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's get after it. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I am Trevor Sikma. That is Connor Rogers. This is a mock Draft Monday edition of the podcast.

Connor, we've had so much movement over the last week with free agency, so many big-time players changing, so many first-round picks even changing that you know we had to fire up a brand-new Mock Draft. And this one's going to be a little bit interesting because for the first time, you and I are doing no pre-picking. This is all live, if you will. This is an off-the-cuff mock draft, really just testing our wit,

our knowledge of the class, and how well we know this team. So I'm excited for this one, man. It's a little bit different than what we've been doing in the past. Yeah, it's on the fly. Hopefully no panic picks today. Usually Trevor and I have like a two-hour pre-show

before the show that we are just going through every scenario of every team, at least in the first round. And these Mock Draft Mondays have been especially fun this year because it feels like every Monday we have another team that's out and another team that's in with two first round picks. So they've definitely all been different. And we'll add a new wrinkle to this one.

Like you said, we are doing these literally on the fly and we are not writing off trades just because we are doing these on the fly. We might be able to work out a trade or two or maybe even three, we'll see. But our old good friend, the PFF Mock Draft Simulator comes in handy for shows like this. Yeah, dude. I mean, you just talking about now

teams having multiple first round picks. I mean, post Tyreek Hill trade now, we've got the Giants, the Jets, the Houston Texans, the Philadelphia Eagles, the Green Bay Packers and the Kansas City Chiefs, I believe, unless I'm forgetting to somebody, but I think- You said the Lions? You said the Lions. No, I didn Texans, the Philadelphia Eagles, the Green Bay Packers, and the Kansas City Chiefs, I believe, unless I'm forgetting to somebody, but I think- You said the Lions? You said the Lions. No, I didn't even say the Lions. You said the Lions too. What? There's so many teams with multiple first round picks. Now, unfortunately, that means there's a lot of teams that in this

particular mock draft, we are not getting to your team, but look- They all got superstars though, because of it. That's true,'s true. You don't hear it. Sorry, you got Devante Adams. You're not in Mock Draft Monday. Sorry, you have Tyreek Hill on your team now. Two is saved. Good job. But sorry, we don't have Mock Draft Monday.

Dude, Connor and I talked about this before, too, though. We are at some point in time going to be firing up another two round Mock Draft. And it might even be a three-round mock draft. It's coming to you at some point. Not today, but that is coming down the line. Before we get into this, we're going to kick it off, and I'm also going to switch the order up on us. Normally, Connor's picking for the evens. I'm picking for the odds because the Jets pick the evens.

The Bucs pick the odds. But now we're going to switch it up. We're going to put the pressure, not just the on-the-fly picks, but also picking for each other's favorite teams. So we're going to do that before we get to to put the pressure not just the on the fly picks but also picking for each other's favorite team so we're going to do that before we get to that if you guys don't have a pff subscription we're using the mock draft simulator to make this mock draft happen you guys can do that too along with the draft guide along with all the premium articles if you go to pff.com and get a subscription if you don't have one now is the best time because you get 25 off if you use the promo code nflse check it out

make it happen get a subscription and start doing your own mock draft so you can fire back at us about what your thoughts are for your team or maybe the first round as a whole with that connor my man you are kicking it off for the first time in a long time let's get that number one overall pick who are you taking for the jacksonville jaguars at one? Well, I mean, let's let it rip here. And once again, this is what we think will happen, of course. And, you know, I have no problem with this selection. I'm still going with Aiden Hutchinson, right? I know this has kind of been the week of, can Trayvon Walker really go number one?

And everybody kind of looks at the odds on multiple sportsbooks. And while odds can tell you a lot on sports books with recent news, buzz, rumors, they also can trick you at times. There can also be no rhyme or reason to it besides just to balance out, obviously, where the betting is going. Intrigue people, oh, I can get Trayvon Walker at plus 350 and there's a lot of steam behind this. So I'm not there yet.

I don't think Trayvon Walker is going number one. I do think he's going in the top five in this draft, which is still pretty wild to me. I think this pick will be Aiden Hutchinson. Everything that they've done this offseason has kind of dictated that this would be the selection. They get a high floor player that is going to come in and hopefully help install a winning attitude in Jacksonville

that's been absent a bit, and definitely on the defensive side of the ball as well. So Trevor, number one. We're not really going to get too cute with this Jacksonville takes Aiden Hutchinson yeah the Trayvon Walker odds are definitely rising up but sometimes Vegas can trick you a little bit as Papa Sikama has always told me there's a reason why those buildings in Vegas are so big and so shiny it's because uh they win more than you do so it's something that's always to note the uh the the odds as one of my one of many great life lessons that uh that i learned from my father there about how to not go broke uh doing sports gambling well you brought him up i might as well make it happen here at number two we had chris burke from the athletic on for the beginning

of our guest mock draft series last thursday if you guys missed the first episode you got to check it out. It's a cool series we're doing, and we're going to continue to do on Tuesday and Thursday of this week, where we're having an expert or an insider for every single team help us make a mock draft selection in mock draft order. And Chris took Trayvon Walker at number two overall for the Detroit Lions. I'm also going to do that.

I was convinced, man. I think it's going to happen I feel like if Aiden Hutchinson's off the board this one's going to come down to Trayvon Walker or Malik Willis those are going to be the two wild cards with this selection here number two overall I'm just I'm not so convinced that they believe in Malik Willis that much to take him at number two overall instead you look at Trayvon Walker and how he has just been ascending so rapidly throughout this draft process and I think he's destined to go shoot man you mentioned top five I'm thinking top three like

if he's not going to the Detroit Lions I feel like he's going to the Houston Texans but I'm gonna take him off the board here I'm gonna go Trayvon Walker number two overall yeah it's funny I've seen some panic on Twitter over the last week of jets fans that don't want trayvon walker at four and i was like don't worry guys they're not gonna be there it's a problem you probably don't have to even sweat over right and so i agree with you trevor i would have made the same pick for them um if i was guessing what they'll do but not what i would do if it was me in the chair and i know you said you feel the same way number three the houston texans speaking of the mock draft the guest mock draft series uh we had the legendary john mclean on he was awesome dude amazing i mean the stories he has you can

sit there for probably days of shows and just listen uh i mean the guy's been in movies so number three he went with kyle hamilton they picked that you know i remember when i did my first mock draft of the year in November, I think that was the direction I had them go, looking at Casario's background in New England and looking at how much they prioritized game-changing defensive backs on the back end, not just at safety, but also at corner. But I'm not going to go in this direction, actually.

I'm going to go with Ike Ikuonu here at three. And I know that they feel like, and John said this, they feel like they have their tackle situation in the short term solidified. But we know the story with Iki. If you are one of those teams with a short-term solution at tackle, and we've gone through this with multiple teams in the top 10 picks of this draft, Ikuonu can be a guard early on. He's played left guard before.

And then down the road, he can kick out to tackle. The Texans need to get better in the trenches. They cannot run the football. They really can't do anything right now with the infrastructure of their offense. Iquanu, in my opinion, is the best player in the draft, and I think in this spot, he goes number three overall to the Texans. All right, man. You know, Icky, I think

this is a pick that to me has always made a lot of sense that I feel like hasn't been talked about a lot. You know, even, even with Laramie Tunsil coming back, you know, I was guilty of this as well, simply because it just you and I are trying to communicate what we believe is going to happen.

And it just doesn't seem like they're still going to be super high on tackle, but they should be. And so you saying that this is on the table for them, the logic follows that. So maybe it's an instance where we haven't heard a lot about Icky going number three to Houston, but that doesn't mean it's completely off the table because it would. It would make a lot of sense to have Laramie Tunst

on one side, Icky, Cuano on the other. Man, that'd be fantastic. That'd be great for however this franchise wants to go post Deshaun Watson era. If there's anything I want our listeners to take away from this show before and after the draft, it's that teams do not draft, for the most part, majority. There's a sample size of a few.

Teams do not draft thinking of the season ahead. They draft thinking the season's two to three years ahead. And the Texans are the pinnacle of that for where they are in the progress of rebuilding um so you know sure they can take kyle hamilton that wouldn't shock us either but when you look at their line and you're going i don't know if a quantum you know there's no room on the left side or anything like that you're thinking long term and you're thinking the blueprint of what casario is gonna do all right that puts jets up in number four i'm uh here you go with the pressure you spend this off for months for months he's like i don't want this here you go and you took ginky

from me you took the you took the yeah but we have been just penciling in here jets for so long you're just taking the number three and my heart's out here sinking when I heard you say that. You got this though. You got this. I do got this. I do got this. You and I have had a lot of conversations off camera about what exactly we

kind of think the Jets would do. And even though we think that they love Ike Ikuonu as a prospect, and if he was there, he would make it happen. I'm going to go with Kayvon Thibodeau. And I think we have a lot of love for Ike Ikuonu because the theory of him is still there. There's not a guarantee that he's going to go number one overall or something like that.

Certainly where there was whispers and chances of that about a month ago. That's a little bit less here. There's reason to believe he's going to be on the board still at number four for the Jets. And so that's why I think that we're seeing a lot of Ikuonu picks for the Jets. And so that's why I think that we're seeing a lot of Iquanu picks for the Jets. But if he is not there, I don't think they're going to pick corner this early. And I don't think they're going to pick

wide receiver this early. I think they're going to go with an edge rusher. I think they're going to go with a pass rusher. It's got to be Kayvon Thibodeau. If you ask me, I think Jermaine Johnson could be tempting here. I think he might be on the board. They might think about it.

But at the end of the day, I think the jets would settle in on Thibodeau going number four, if the board fell the way it is right now. So I'm going Thibodeau at number four. How did I do? How did I do? 10 out of 10. I agree. I think,

and you know, maybe a nine out of 10, because you said it, there's the slice that could be germane because they fall in love with the person and the pro readiness and the run to run defense packaged with everything put together as a rusher i look at robert sala and i go he's gonna watch tibideau and be like i just i can get this guy to be a superstar i'm not a believer in all of this nonsense about him yeah he's a smart guy he cares about his brand he cares

about life outside of football he also cares a lot about football on the field. And Robert Sala, the thing he cares more about than anything in the world is edge pass rush. And that's what Thibodeau brings. And in this spot, I mean, he's the best player on the board. I think you nailed it. And I think that's how it would go in this spot. I think that he and I think Robert Sala is the right coach for Kayvon Thibodeau, right? He's a player's guy. He's developed pass rushers. He's helped pass rushers grow. It's a system that Thibodeau can get off the ball and have a really productive early impact. So number five, the New York Giants here. The first of two picks in the top 10. Situation became kind of easy besides the debate between Charles Cross and Evan Neal.

I'm going to take Neal here. I think they would like his experience at right tackle in 2020. They can keep Andrew Thomas on the left side. Obviously, Thomas did play right tackle in college as well, so you're not too worried if you have to flip him over. I think Charles Cross is a little bit better of a pass protector than Neal. I think Neal is a little bit more of a complete rounded player. They want to run the ball with Saquon barkley evan neil goes fifth overall and if you're a giants fan you're pretty happy with how things fell here yeah i think that i think

that this is definitely going to be some sort of trench pick here for the new york giants on one side of the ball or the other now i don't think that that necessarily means that when we get to seven it's going to be the opposite. Like if they picked an offensive lineman at five, it doesn't mean they're going to go defensive lineman at seven because I think that they have another target that you and I have chatted about a little bit that I'm curious to see if you pull the trigger because you are still picking at number seven for them.

So I don't think it's a guarantee, but I do think this first one's probably, I would say like 80% going to be a trench player unless they really feel like they can't get um i know i know they're targeting corner which is a conversation wink that we're gonna have to right right right so i mean they might think about sauce garner but who's taking who's taking him before seven though right right right is somebody trade mainly you don't have to worry about the car Panthers doing that because if they did that, they'd just move the franchise. But I don't think they are going to do that.

So who's going to trade up for the Carolina Panthers for sauce? Do they think that's going to happen? Because if not, then just take the trench player, especially the offensive linemen, because you know that Carolina might pick that. Anyway, so that's kind of my overall thoughts of it. I agree completely with what you're saying there at number five for the Giants going Evan Neal number six Carolina is on the board I'm gonna have him take him to Lake Willis and I yes I think that for a while I was

kind of fighting this thinking look my own personal evaluation of Willis and where I see his game and how far I think he is away from really competing but there's just there is no doubt about it that regardless of what I think about his tape and where he is currently as opposed to what people believe he could be in the NFL I think there's a wide gap there a lot of people just absolutely love him man we watched Malik Willis his pro day last week and you know he hit the 65 yard bomb in the end zone and starts sprinting down holding up the one finger smiling everybody's going crazy around him. And the team see that man. And we also saw that at the senior bowl in a very short period of time,

he was getting so many guys to gravitate around him. And that's also a major intangible X factor part of being a franchise quarterback. And Carolina sees that. I think it's more likely now than I'll say ever in this draft process that Carolina would take a quarterback at six because I think we've had to work ourselves up to this quarterback class being taken at that point.

But I'm going to go Malik Willis here. I'm going to take Malik Willis for the Carolina Panthers. And they got to get a guy that they can believe in. So I think that Malik's going to be the guy. My debate for the Panthers has gone from will they really take a quarterback in the top 10 to which quarterback is it gonna be that's where i'm at with the panthers right now yeah because pick it pick it's on the board too man like i pick i i know that they went to kenny pickett's pro day not ruled out the the tweet was the tweet was that they the report said that they checked out Kenny Pickett's hands. I think it was Scott.

Was it Scott Fitterer? I think it was Scott Fitterer looked at Kenny Pickett's hands. Hold the bottle in your hands. And then somebody in the tweet said that he just like, like he nodded, like he gave it the. Yeah, that'll do. Unbelievable. Like so weird. So weird.

And so great. Is absolutely amazing so oh my god i think pickett's on the board as well but i think clearly if willis is there he's gonna be their guy at six yeah i mean that's where we are with the panthers right now that we think and that changes the entire draft having a quarterback going the top 10 is gonna push another good player um to you know if your team is picking in the teens you've got to be feeling really good about the prospects of that. So I think Malik Willis versus Kenny Pickett's got to be a hot debate in that draft room, and I'm fascinated to see how it plays out. Seven of the Giants are back on the clock.

You hinted at it already, and they got their tackle at five, which I think is the smart plan. It's Sauce Gardner here. Oh, you're making the pick. Making the pick. Okay. Because you look at it, for me, it comes down to, is it Sauce Gardner? Is it Kyle Hamilton?

I don't think it'll be a safety. Is it a pass rusher like a Jermaine Johnson? I think the options are honestly pretty limited of what they do here, where this feels like a pick that has a good chance of happening when you study Wink martindale's history the and and before we started the show uh pat leonard tweeted that james bradbury will be traded will be traded which is huge yeah it's a huge factor in this pick so when you take him out of the equation you don't go into the season with wink and go we don't really have much at corner because that's how the entire defense is essentially built um so sauce is worth this pick without a doubt there's

no worries about that i mean he is my seventh overall player it's the seventh overall pick uh he is a necessary asset for a team like the giants and i think this has a really good chance of happening with them shoring up the offensive line a little bit in free agency. They got some serviceable players in Felice Ugano and Glowinski and Evan Neal at five. I think that's a solid strategy. And to believe that that happens, coming away with a really good trench player and then believing that they're going to come away with a top corner who they absolutely love. I mean, look, I've heard from a source that he is very high on the Giants board, that they very much like Sauce Garner,

and it's a real possibility that he's also maybe even to pick at five. Like, I think that they really like this guy, and I think that if James Bradbury is traded, like Pat reported, and that we think is going to happen, because Pat's obviously graded his job very plugged in, so I think that that's going to happen. When that happens, it all opens up up i think the possibility is there but i think one of five or seven is going to be uh is going to be sauce garner there so it's funny because we have the falcons on the clock now and kyle hamilton is still on the board

i would have told you that this is an awesome spot for kyle hamilton like i'd say like two three weeks ago i'd have said man if k if Kyle Hamilton can make it to number eight, I think the Falcons would love them. Just a difference making kind of a player. And you still got Matt Ryan. You got Russell gauge in the fold, right? Calvin Ridley is going to come back.

You hope, or if he's not going to come back, you're going to get some kind of draft capital for him. You're going to be able to replace them. Things are going to be okay. You got Kyle pits, right? And now they have none of that. have absolutely none of that on the offensive side

of the ball change quick yeah i i just i i don't really know where they go at this point i think they signed marcus mariotta as kind of this stopgap quarterback but i don't think they're picking kenny picky like maybe if malik willis is on the board they they think about it. But if they didn't pick Justin Fields last year, they didn't pick Mac Jones last year. That's a hard sell. How are you picking Malik Willis this year? That's tough, man. That would not be a good look.

The fan base would not be happy about that one. So I think they're kind of rolling with the offense the way it is right now. And they're hoping that they can make a big splash in that edition here at number eight. I'm going Garrett Wilson. I feel like Garrett Wilson is more of the consensus wide receiver one. I think that he seems to be somewhere at least wide receiver one through wide receiver three. He's not really any less than that on teams boards.

And if he's the Falcons top guy, then he's going to be the pick here. But honestly, whoever they have is wide receiver one. That's probably going to be a pick because they simply do not have offensive weapons outside of kyle pitts and cordero patterson and for as fun as those guys are you've got to get somebody else there to make things happen because i don't think people realize just how much matt ryan made

up for that roster underperforming last year they're gonna learn and they're gonna learn this year so i'm gonna go with gary wilson i think that that Garrett Wilson is probably going to be a high target for them. And if he happens to be their wide receiver one, he's going to go off the board here at number eight. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. They're an interesting team because Wilson is probably the best pro-ready player at a spot that they need one. They really can't wait.

They're just drifting out to sea right now. Now that Matt Ryan's gone, they didn't get to Sean Watson. They brought in Marcus Mariota. They did bring back patterson they do have kyle pitts they're just one of these teams that's just floating around you're trying to figure out what they are you know it fascinates me do they argue for a drake london in that room and go we're going to be bigger than everybody our offense we have kyle pitts who's going to mismatch everyone in the slot drake london's going to mismatch everyone on the outside quarter l patterson is six foot two 220 pound running back guy that you can motion and flex he's gonna be bigger than a lot of guys and we're bigger and faster and stronger

that all sounds good and fun but you make the better point like garrett well they need somebody that can get open right away right so they're a tricky team right now because they are the teams that are always just drifting are very hard to figure out so i don't i don't think that's crazy at all number nine seattle seahawks are on the clock speaking of drifting and just having no idea this is back to back the falcons and the seahawks are just moved on from franchise changing quarterbacks yep of their offseason like russ and matt Matt Ryan changed those franchises for this era, and now they're gone. And you look at it and go, what's your identity, right?

Like, with the Seahawks, Pete is still there, so you know they're going to want to run the ball a million times. But Atlanta is a little harder to figure out because the staff's newer top to bottom. The Seahawks, to me, I think, unlike Atlanta, are truly just going to try to keep things going and operate how they always do. And keeping that in mind, to me, this pick is Jermaine Johnson.

They need a pass rusher. His 10-yard split is in the premium elite territory, and that's the kind of guys they want rushing up front, guys that are so quick off the ball and can win with that instant speed. But he's got a lot of polish as well. He can stop the run. So I think at nine, if they didn't move,

this could be a tradable pick. I think they stay put and take Jermaine Johnson. Yeah, I think it could be tradable. The only thing that gave me hesitation with the trade back from them is like, did you trade Russ just to trade back on your highest pick and that's that's the part that kind of because i'm totally with you there then you're rebuilding completely then you're you're a team that needs a lot and trading back would make sense especially for the right price

and like especially if one of these quarterbacks are on the board and a team's moving up for them then it obviously makes sense but it's harder harder for me to think that they would pull the trigger on that just because it's like, okay, you gave away your best player. And of the picks you got back, this is the best one that you got. And you're going to move out of it. So who knows? There's a lot of factors that go into what Seattle could do here. It's very dangerous to get into the mind of a Pete Carroll right now

because we don't know what's going to happen. They're built very odd though, where they're paying two safeties, damn good money that are, when you're paying two safeties like that, you're assuming that that's a team that's trying to, you know, they're over the hump and they're squeezing the money in and trying to win,

but that's not who they are. So, and they're gonna have to pay DK, right? Which when you think of it like that, it makes you really think that not who they are. And they're going to have to pay DK, right? When you think of it like that, it makes you really think that DK could be moved, and I know they like him, but are they going to pay DK all that money? Are they going to try to get cheap at quarterback, right? Maybe they'd shock everyone and take Kenny Pickett.

Who knows? I don't know. I don't know, man. I think there's so many things that are on the board for Seattle. But Jermaine Johnson's not a bad pick. I think it's a really good pick. No, I like it. This is a guy who is destined for the top 10.

We got the New York Jets up again at number 10. Okay. I got the, well, at first I got the 10 out of 10 from Connor at pick number four. And then they changed it to a nine out of 10. Just a really dang good. We're shooting for perfection here. You know, the obvious selection is drake london and he's

still on the board i mean i'm looking at anybody else i mean what what else would they consider here i think corner is something that they would consider but you and i have had this conversation where you you kind of feel like unless they're really compelled by a corner you think it's more likely they wait till top of the second round for corner, right? Yeah, I would be floored if they, with sauce gone, if they took a corner at 10. And I'd be also floored if they came out of the first round without a wide receiver. Trevor, they have struck out.

And let's be fair, struck out's a little harsh in this sense, but they checked in on Calvin Ridley. And then the Falcons were like, hey, sorry, guys, this trade's not happening, we can't tell you why. So they checked in on Calvin Ridley, right? So when you hear that, you're like, okay, sorry, guys. This trade's not happening. We can't tell you why. So they checked in on Calvin Ridley, right? So when you hear that, you're like, okay, maybe they like Garrett Wilson. They have checked in on Amari Cooper. That one was a little loose, obviously.

They were all in on getting Tyree Kill. Do they want speed? Do they want Jamison Williams? They're just this team that they keep telling you publicly over and over again we need a top flight wide receiver along with Corey Davis and Elijah Moore and we brought back Braxton Barrios but we paid him like a number four and special teams guy so they're kind of they've showed their hand I mean they've literally taken their cards and flipped them and this is our cards right here this is what we're gonna do my only who wants to be a millionaire phone a friend

calling up connor rogers to help me out with this pick here is what about kyle hamilton still being on the board great point and i almost forgot he's there obviously they signed they signed jordan whitehead but yeah i know i know jordan whitehead very well he's more of a downhill safety they have ashton davis do they like ashton davis a lot he's been bad He's more of a downhill safety. They have Ashton Davis. Do they like Ashton Davis a lot? He's been bad. There's not really a lot of other depth on the roster. And this would feel like a perfect Kyle Hamilton fit.

So what I'd say is the only way they take Hamilton in that spot, and this is realistic, by the way. This isn't like a Hail Mary. If they believe they have a lot of picks, right? They have 35 and 38 and they have 69. Nice. If you, yeah, very nice.

If you could package 35 and 69, whatever you want the package to be, to go back into round one and get a wide receiver. And I think that's realistic because they did, they went up and got ABT last year. They moved way up to get ABT. So did they see it and go, damn, we're going to kill it with value at 10.

We got our pass rusher at four. We're going to kill the value at 10. We can't believe Hamilton's here. And now we have a trade worked out to go get one of the big five wide receivers. We don't need these 10 rookie classes over and over again. We're going to go get players. Then I think you can take Hamilton here

if you have that trade worked out to come back up into the top 20. All right, I'm going to pick Hamilton then. I'm going to pick Hamilton. I think they're going to look at somewhat of the, I don't want to call it like scarcity, because you could also get a safety. Ah, you get a safety effect.

God, no. Yeah, this is tough, man. This is really tough. I'm going to go. You're playing with fire. Louis Scene's not going to be there. At 35? If Louis Scene was going to be there,

I think I'd pull the trigger. Because essentially, what the Jets are going to... We've spent way too much time on the Jets here at number 10. But essentially, the blueprint for the Jets is either going to be Hamilton and a wide receiver at the top of the second round, or a wide receiver here, and you're trading back up in the first round to go get Louis seen but you got Brisker you got

Dax Hill shoot man all right fine I'm picking Drake London sorry I'm doing it fine I'm picking Drake London I'm just saving your mentions it's all I'm doing I'm whatever i'm picking drake the good draft wide receiver one big tall goaded you're up at 11 goaded he said goaded all right 11 we're moving on from the jets all of that to repeat came on and drake all of that 11 the washington commanders are on the clock and my goodness man you know what we're at the kyle hamilton conversation all over again i we really are but i look at this spot and i still think they need a wide receiver in this draft and we've only had two go it's not like the floor has completely fallen out from under us i don't love their safeties where i'm feeling great about passing kyle hamilton in the

spot you know after saying all that, I'm going to take. Okay. All right. There we go. He's just, he's too good. And they need a safety. They know they need a safety. And I think they can pair scary Terry with a later wide receiver.

They don't have to floor it here. Would Drake and Garrett Wilson gone, right? Drake and Garrett Wilson are gone. That kind of hurts this spot. I'm going toyle hamilton at 11 see the fun thing about doing it this way trevor is we really you hear us talking in our own heads through the entire process right yeah this player is gone i didn't know that player would be gone this team needs this i didn't know you know that this would fall into their lap that's the perfect example to break down 11 the people like to watch us panic on camera.

And so I think this is great for them. Okay. Minnesota Vikings are up at number 12. By the way, the PFF mock draft simulator still has quarterback as the number one need for the Washington Commanders. And oh boy, that is a shot. Minnesota Vikings also have quarterback. Speaking of that.

Also have quarterback as a need. My goodness. not gonna go i'm not gonna go quarterback here though of course with kirk's recent extension fully guaranteed he's gonna be around for two more years so who would they pick at 12 are they a sleeper cell for jameson williams because of theelin's age because of theelin i'm not saying that's going to happen. I'm just saying they're the biggest sleeper for Jameson that nobody talks about ever. They got anybody in the wings behind them? I didn't think so. They got BC Johnson.

They got Amir Smith-Marset. It's not a bad group. Yeah, it's not a bad group. They got KJ Osborne as well. That's very intriguing. It's intriguing that you threw that out there. I don't think it's going gonna be super high for them uh man stingley's there if they want to really get risky think stingley i think they've got to go stingley here it makes the most sense for them i'm gonna go stingley i'm gonna

pick stingley stingley's too good he's too good look healthy derrick stingley top five player in this class. Don't want to hear it. Wipe my hands of it. Don't want to hear it. Now, if the foot checks out, that's the player that we're talking about. And the reason why he's going so late in mock drafts is because, as of this moment, we still aren't exactly sure, right?

Barely played this past year. Had the foot injury this past summer. Had the surgery. Still wasn't able to run at the combine. Like, what Derek St Singler are we getting here help us out so we don't exactly know that's why he's falling here but the talent is too good I'm having hey he's going number 12 in this job Vikings all right it's fair all right the Texans are on the clock at 13 uh picking in the brown slot because of the Deshaun Watson trade you know Iquanu went third overall for them so as much as Charles Cross is on the board and that's all good

and fun and amazing it will not be Charles Cross uh a little bit of a shocker here we have not had this pick yet trevor i'm gonna go jordan davis for them i look at the texans mentality yes they want to be with casario bigger faster stronger than everyone else you walk out around one with ikea quanu and jordan dav Davis you've done that on both sides of the ball I just think it's a simplified process I did find it interesting when we were talking to John McClain here he emphasized a couple of times it will not be wide receiver and when he kept saying that I'm like okay they like Brandon Cooks I think they can get some later round guys that is a big domino at 13 when you take that off the board and then things can change.

But I look at the old school mindset of that front office and just think that they will go gigantic athletic humans in the trenches. Aquano and Jordan Davis fits that bill. Yep, I do. That is that's the most accurate Texas mock draft I've ever heard. What you just what you just put together there. I think that that is I think they've been hard to figure out. Spot on. heard. What you just put together there. I think that that is absolutely spot on. That is spot on right there. Okay.

Baltimore Ravens. Okay, I think I might do a trade here. I like it. I think I'm doing a trade. I think I'm going to trade i think i'm gonna trade with the green bay packers i think i'm gonna have the packers come up from 22 yeah hold on i'm just checking to make sure just double checking to make sure i'm gonna have the the packers coming up from 22 getting jameson williams here at number 14

because they got to jump up. If the Packers want Jameson Williams because they're picking 22, they've got to wait for Philly to pick three times. They got to look at the Chargers. Probably aren't going to pick them, but the Saints, that's another team that's right there. You can't do it.

The New England Patriots. There's not even a guarantee that you're going to get Olave. Everybody keeps going, oh yeah, let's just pencil in Olave for the Packers. I don't think he's not even a guarantee that you're going to get Olave. Like everybody keeps going, oh yeah, let's just pencil in Olave for the Packers. I don't think he's there. He going to be there? I don't think he'll be there. You realize the gauntlet of teams that need a wide receiver

before he gets there. So I'm going to have the Packers trading up. Let's hit trade here. Let's see what we can get. All right. Baltimore Ravens, Green Bay Packers. We're doing this live on the fly. Okay.

22, 14. All right. What do we got to give up? What do we got to give up what do we got to give up if we give up uh not interested in the trade why not i'm just out here just like selecting random picks all right to move back eight spots let's give them it's like a late second round pick i believe is the overall value yeah i saw a three and a four i think we're going tricky we're giving them 53 and 59 i'll make it happen man we'll go 53 and 59. I've got them popping up, making it happen. They got to get a wide receiver.

You're right. You have to go get one. And is that a little overpaying? Yes, I think that probably when there's less sweat on the line, you think about it here. I think that you can actually make this one happen, maybe for a little bit cheaper. But I think the Packers are going to move up here,

and I'm going to go with Jameson Williams. I think it's the right move for them. I think that need to be aggressive you're in it to win it with aaron rogers right now you got to find a way to be it doesn't matter the cost you got to do it you can't sit there on your hands and be like let's pray uh it's not how the draft works all right the eagles are on the clock for the first of three times on today's show in the first round at 15 they are an interesting team you can argue we always argue they need linebacker they need some dbs i still think they need some help for the long-term future on the interior of their defensive line charles cross is there but i don't think they're ready to you know add a tackle spot as much as lane is

then you're moving cross over there's a lot to unpack there uh so with the eagles here at 15 and we know they still need a wide receiver to pair long term with davante smith this board did not break great for them no really they were a team that i would have taken jameson i would have taken stingley um there's a lot of guys that are gone. Jordan Davis? Yeah, you can make that argument for sure. 100%. Devontae Wyatt's still there. He still makes sense for him. That is the guy I had my eyes on the most.

I think they can look at Devontae Wyatt to be life after Fletcher Cox, and nobody will be the great Fletcher Cox in Philadelphia, but we're going to go with Wyatt at 15 here because he's, you know, is it a smidge early? I don't know. But the point is, it's a need. It's a player that can play three downs for them. And it allows him to come in and develop at the right pace, not be a superhero right away.

Although I think he could be a very productive rookie. OK. All right. So you're going to you're going to Vontae Wyatt at 15 at 16. I'm going to go with Vontae Wyatt's teammate. I i'm gonna go with davante white's teammate i'm gonna go with lewis scene i told you that he's not gonna be there to pick late in the back end of the first round he's soaring i think that his stock is just hitting the ceiling man and i think that the eagles need that speed they need that speed in the secondary i know they got harris as well but they're gonna need a free starting free safety next to him that's what lewis scene can do for

you man he's got the speed to give you the range he could be a versatile defender for you i think he's going to get picked in the i think it's gonna be back half of the first round but this is where it starts for him it truly does all three picks for philadelphia are well within range of where lewis scene could go and so this is probably his earliest i would say right here in this little group of picks but i really do think that he's going to be high on Philadelphia's radar. They're going to try to get faster on the defensive side of the ball. So I'll go Lewis in here at 16 for the Eagles. All right, so the Eagles load up on defense back-to-back.

Wyatt and Seen from the championship Georgia defense. The Chargers are on the clock at 17 here. Charles Cross is on. We're going to flip him to right tackle, or maybe they ask Slater too. I know it's a lot to ask after the season Slater had. Charles Cross is a top 10 player. The Chargers have a needed tackle still across from Slater, wherever that is.

This is a gamble you take. You figure out the sides when you get into OTAs. He's too good, Trevor. He's too good. If Charles Cross is here at 17, I don't know how they would pass a player of that. And then you have two bookend tackles for the next eight years that can be top seven tackles in football.

That's insane. Yep. No, I agree with you. I think that that's a... I don't have other needs. That's another absolute home run for them. No, no, no, no. They had the free agency period to be able to make a selection like this. Right? Yeah.

I mean, that's exactly what you went out and you spent the money over the last two years to be able to do is have this kind of flexibility get yourself to offensive tackles it makes a lot of sense the team that i think is really hurting from that pick is the new orleans saints teams to pick right after him because after losing on armstead yeah i mean they've got ryan ramchick at right tackle but then uh james hearst i'm seeing here caleb beninock jordan mills they're free agents anyways. You're not really kicking any interior guys out the left tackle. Man, 18 changed a lot for them. I kind of overlooked Armstead just not.

I just, for the longest time, felt like they were going to figure it out with Armstead. Yep, yep, and they did not. I'm going to pick Trevor Penning. I was going to say. I'm going to go with Trevor Penning here. Look, I get it. Chris Olave's still on the board.

It makes sense for him, but you got to be able to keep that offensive line as strong as possible especially with not Drew Brees back there right especially with not that offensive juggernaut um with nine back there I think that they found that out the hard way and it only gets more difficult without Teron Armstead so you got to make sure that that guy's in there as well I'll go Trevor Penning to continue to hopefully allow that offensive line in New Orleans to be one of the better ones in the NFL. What's you up with the Eagles 19? Eagles are back on the clock again. Remember they got teammates, Louis seen and Devante Wyatt with their back-to-back picks. I'm going to look on the offensive side of the ball. Finally, he talked about the wide receiver pairing with Smith smart. Get to go with Traylon

Burks in this spot. I think it would be more of a size and you know build up speed kind of pick with Burks uh to pair with Devante Smith the lobby is intriguing here but I just think they're just not the type of team show with the way they run the ball that they're gonna have 285 ish pound guys out there and they're good players Devante Smith's great Chris Lave is great they need a a certain kind of counterpart to Smith. And Burks is that kind of player. Just because the testing was underwhelming. He's still easily a top 20 player in this draft.

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get very aggressive, go up and get a quarterback. I think they really want Malik Willis. I really do. I think they'd be okay with Kenny Pickett, but I have not heard this burning love for Kenny Pickett. So instead, maybe that's not the case. Maybe they're all in on Malik Willis. And if not, they're kind of okay with the situation that they have now a quarterback,

at least getting Mitchell Trubisky in there, and maybe he's the guy that they want to make it happen, or maybe they just don't love Pickett enough to for sure pick him. I think the Kansas City Chiefs have to get aggressive of going to get a wide receiver, and watching Jameson Williams and Traylon Burke come off the board, if the Pittsburgh Steelers are sitting there with no Malik Willis to pick,

maybe Kansas City calls him up and goes, we're going to give you, I don't know what the picks are going to be, to move from, what's the first pick? Say 29 and 50. 29 and 50 to move up to get Chris Olave. That's what I think that they're going to do. And you pick for the odds. So I'm picking for the evens and you're picking for the odds.

So is that what you think that's enough to make a deal? Because I don't want to just jack your pick here. No, I think it absolutely is. I think that you might have to pay up a little bit because they know how badly you're in the AFC together. You view each other as key cogs against each other pay up a little bit because they know how badly you're in the AFC together. You're, you view each other as, you know,

key cogs against each other to get to the title game. I think it wouldn't be cheap. It's on the track. You know, you look at the draft trade chart, that 50th pick is worth 429 is worth six 40. So you're looking at a thousand 40 to go up to a pick worth eight 50. So you are paying a tax.

Yep. But you're paying a tax because there's no receivers left after this. And I get it. People constantly bring up Christian Watson, Sky Moore, Jahan Dotson. I get it, and I like those players a lot. I'm just saying there is a different tier for where Chris Alave is, assuming Alave is the last of the big five. And I think you're spot on.

And that's a pick that I can get behind easily because Olave would have went 21 to New England. Which is why I made the deal. Which is why I think Pittsburgh calls him up. That's how the draft works. Yeah. Hey, do you want this guy? Because we got him right now. You can have him. And I think that Kansas City would want to make sure

that they can make something like that happen, especially after losing Tyree Kill and the deep threat that he was. Chris Olave doesn't get to step in and beat Tyree Kill, right? I don't want to make that seem like that's the case, but you get a lot better. The field gets a lot deeper when you put Chris Olave on that Kansas City Chiefs depth chart. So that puts you up now at number 21 with the New England Patriots. Tough spot for them to lose out on the wide receivers, but I think they have to brace for that. I think that they are in a spot in the draft that does not tailor to what they want,

and that's a top-flight wide receiver when, in this mock, this could easily happen. The Falcons, the Jets, the Packers traded up with the Ravens, the Eagles, and the Chiefs moved up, took receivers. If you sit back and wait, it's not always going to go your way. So we're going to look at corner.

And I'm going to go a player that at first glance doesn't really fit them in Trent McDuffie because they are so man heavy and they like longer corners. But I think he's so, so smart that they will look at him and go, we know you're in a premium zone corner, but we know you can also play man. You tackle. You say you like to be moved around. We can play you outside.

We can play you in the slot. We can play you at safety. I think McDuffie is the kind of brain of a player that they would fall in love with where they might be able to break the molds of what their number one corners traditionally look like. Also has a safety versatility too, you know, which I think the Patriots do like in a lot of their players. He can, you know, he, like you said, he's,

he's not experienced enough because he doesn't, he doesn't necessarily have that experience, but he, he has the football IQ to be able to play a lot of different positions, which is really important for a new, a new England defense as well. So at 22 now it's a Baltimore Ravens on the clock, because remember we had the green Bay Packers trading up to number 14 to go get Jameson Williams with the Raiders or sorry, the Ravens back on the clock here at 22.

I'm going to have them going corner. I'm going to have them going Kyrie. I think this is a group that definitely needs cornerback help. And you mentioned how much the Patriots like to go man coverage. I think the Baltimore Ravens are a similar team that likes to get very, very aggressive. Now there's going to be changes. Maybe there's some schematic changes in what's going on there, but perhaps not.

Perhaps they're sticking with what has been the Ravens bread and butter, which has been a lot of pressure up front on a man coverage in the back, just getting extremely aggressive with single high coverages. If they want to keep that, they can add Kier Elam here, which would be a really nice haul for them, moving back a couple of spots and still getting a corner that really fits what they want to do well. So Ravens here at 22, I'll have them going Kier Elam.

All right, the Cardinals are on the clock. We know how badly they need interior offensive line. I could sit here and go through Tyler Linderbaum. I could sit here and go through Kenyon Green. But at the end of the day, we're going to walk away with Zion Johnson in this one. Probably, you know, just a great pro ready option at guard for them. Good player. They need a they need a plug and play guard. They need one. And if you know, some people don't like to draft those kinds of guys at 23, they'd rather take them on day two of the draft. I think Arizona has put themselves in a spot where the board is going to break right for them and this is such a dire need you have your quarterback

basically barking about this right it's he's saying it without saying it directly this one you didn't need to put much you know too much brain power into this is the same wavelength here for the cowboys i mean you lose lyle Collins. You've got holes on the right side of your offensive line. Kenyon Green's sitting there. If he fits your team at this moment better at guard, great. If he fits it better at tackle, great. He can do both of those things. And I hope he gets to hone in on one position a little bit more

than he did in college because, I mean, there was one game where he played three different positions. So that's the kind of versatility we're talking about with this guy but i think they could really use him as a plug and play kind of a right tackle a guy who's able to step in right away and hopefully hold his own along that cowboys offensive line that at one point in time look they still got tyron smith they still have zach martin it's still a good unit with talent but it's not that fearsome no question about it one of the best offensive lines in football like it was in years past so you got to see you got to keep investing the resources especially with collins

gone i'll have kenyan green going 24 to the cowboys all right the bills are on the clock at 25 i don't think this has happened in any mock draft we've done yet the bills were prepared last year in my mind to take a first-round running back. And obviously, Najee Harris and Travis Etienne were not there. I am not the biggest fan of the first-round running back, but if there's going to be one this year, it's going to be Brees Hall. And we're going to have Brees Hall go here at 25.

Now, maybe the Bills can work out where they get back a few spots and still end up with him. The top five wide receivers are gone. We've had a run on interior offensive linemen go here. We've had a run on a lot of really good players go here, Trevor. I don't think they fear the perception of making this pick if they feel like it can make them a little run heavier, protect Josh Allen's body a little bit more, which they've been vocal about,

and honestly become a team that is so loaded at the skill spots, including quarterback, tight end, wide receiver, and now running back. They think Hall is that piece to take them over the top on offense to be the most balanced, deadly point scoring threat in the NFL. So Hall at 25. A little bit of a stutter there. Look, I agree with you i think that bruce hall is definitely rb1 in this class he's going to be the first rb1 off the board at least that's certainly what we have heard lately unless it's catching up to where kenneth walker's stock might have been then maybe that's the case we find that a little bit closer to what we get to the draft

but as of right now surface level it certainly seems like bryce hall is going to be that rb1 type tennessee titans on the board you know they got needs on the interior offensive line could I mean a tackle as well they have edge rush needs but they've already got a lot of money tied up in edge rush I believe like Autry's still there but Dupree is still there here Landry signed the big deal Landry yeah I don't think I don't think they're going to be going edge rusher at 26. Tyler Smith is on the board, and I think they're going to love him, man. I think so, too. I really do.

I think they're going to love Tulsa offensive tackle Tyler Smith. And I've had this as a pick for them for a while. I know it's a little early on most people's radars, but I think they're going to love this dude. And so I'm going to stick with it. so i'm gonna stick with it i'm gonna stick with tyler smith uh there for the tennessee titans at number 26 we're getting towards the back end of the first round i don't know if you're thinking about having anybody trade up uh i'm still looking at it still thinking about it but we're at 27 now with the bucks i think with the bucks here they are one of the hardest teams to figure out because you know we've talked about it

good luck they just have they have everything they have everything i thought for the longest time they would grab a wide receiver um and then they you know tom brady calls russell gage and he's like good down i'm in and they got godwin done they got evans like they could be thinking we just go stupid on everyone and take the wide receiver anyway but i'm not there. Not after the gauge signing. I really liked your thought process with Linderbaum. I don't think that was insane. You're thinking for the future and maybe you could find a place to play him now. I am all over the place on this Bucks team, especially the way the board is broken where, let's be real, this is a draft that, you know know a lot of the great players or potentially great players are gone after the 20th pick and it becomes more of can I find serviceable starters

or and you know why I don't look at a job over the bucks in the spot is the Brady window they're gonna want guys that maybe can contribute in some kind of way not you know the job was really looked at as a redshirt player at this point right now. So, after saying all of that with the Bucs, and I just tied myself in a complete knot, I'm going to go with Travis Jones.

My thought process there is knowing Todd Bowles, we want the biggest, nastiest front that you cannot run on. We don't need to load the box. We can help out our secondary because the beef we have up front is so stout on its own without adding. We don't need all of these players in the box.

You obviously are loaded with talent there. But when you look at the Bucs, the one thing you kind of think is, okay, the Sioux era might be over here. Right, right, right. So Travis Jones and Big Vita Veya, Trevor, talk to me. Look, I certainly, I love the idea of it. I think that's so much strength, so much beef in the middle that you are just owning the interior part of the trenches.

So important to him. So I think that that strength is really big. What I've heard is that if Sue doesn't come back, they're going to try to prioritize a faster, one penetrating pass from three tech. So that is what I have heard if they don't get Sue back. But like, you can say that. And if Devontae Wyatt's not on the board...

You're not taking Perrion Winfrey here. Right, you're not taking Winfrey back to the first round. So essentially, if you want to beef up your defensive line, Travis Jones is a selection. And I really like the idea of it. I'm not so sure it happens, but I do. Again, like you said, I love the idea of the strength of that interior with Jones and vea both being there so

don't know if the bucks end up doing it but i don't think it would be a bad strategy by any means so um yeah look it's nightmare fuel for any interior office oh my god that's for sure that's forces you to throw at a team that brought back carlton davis camp battles between shack mason ryan jensen tra Travis Jones, and Vita Vea would just be like must-watch television. That'd be pay-per-view right there. Okay, we have the Green Bay Packers now up at number 28. I had them trading up from 22, going to get Jameson Williams.

Now they're up at 28, and I'm going defense. And it's a pick that the more I think about it, the more I like. I'm going to go Boye Mafe. I think the NFL is really going to love Boye Mafe. Oh, yeah. I continue to go back to this pick. I think that it's a really good selection for them.

You know, Carlothis is still on the board here. Ojabo is still on the board here. But Mafe's smaller size, but plus explosiveness is something that I think the packers will really gravitates towards and even with those guys on the board you know fully healthy ojabo this is a different question and this is a different situation but i think that they're really going to like mafe and how high his explosive scores are going to be for them so that means that their takeaways are two very very explosive athletes in jameson williams of 14 and then boy mafia here at number 28 yeah i mean z walked you know they obviously were able to bring preston back yep and you have rishon gary there and then you add boy a to the mix that

kind of allows him to have a more one-dimensional role on that defensive line this year and can explode into the type of superstar talent in year two and three. All right, 29 was the Chiefs. They moved up with the Steelers. Yes. And so we have the Steelers on the clock. And Kenny Pickett's still on the board. Now, I liked your thought process.

Maybe they love Malik Willis. And they're not in love with Kenny Pickett at 20. With them sitting there at 29, you get the fifth-year option still. You take a quarterback at 20. With them sitting there at 29, you get the fifth year option still. You take a quarterback at 29. The perception is totally different than when you take one in the top 20, the top 10, the top five. It allows you to, in a sense, even fail with the guy and take another swing a couple of years later without getting fired. So in this spot, and it takes pressure off Kenny Pickett. He's taking 29th. Throw Mitch out there for as long as you want. When the ceiling caves in, if it does, then Kenny gets his shot.

So I am very comfortable with Kenny Pickett in the 29th overall selection for the Steelers. And I think that's a win for every side involved. I know Kenny loses a couple million that he'd like as an earlier pick. But I really think it takes some of the heat off as a savior right away. Yeah. No, I would agree. pick but i really think it takes some of the heat off as a savior right away yeah no i i would i would agree i think that this is a really great situation with kenny pickett going to pittsburgh and having mitch trubisky there and not having to play right away and and kind of getting that time

like all the quarterbacks in this this class that i think kind of need it that time to get acclimated and really figure it out before you're thrown to the wolves if you will and look for as much as people kind of roll their eyes about mitchell trubisky giving him this second chance while you have kenny picker right behind him i think that's pretty ideal for the pittsburgh stealer so i think it's good there um you we've got the kansas city chiefs now back on the clock at number 30 because remember now they have those back-to-back picks moved up with with pittsburgh to go eat something up your sleeve what'd you what'd you say it sounds like in your voice you got something up your sleeve one more time.

No, I don't. Not for this pick. Not for this pick, at least. I don't know if your Jets people are getting on the phone with anybody. He's just wheeling and dealing. He can't stop himself. That's true.

That is true. So maybe this pick does move in all actuality. But with two really great edge rushers still on the board in George Karloftis and David Ojabo, I'm going to go with David Ojabo. I'm going to, I'm going to go with David Ojabo because I feel like obviously that the Achilles injury sucks, man. I mean, like this dude was going to go in the top 20 of this draft.

And I still think that the first round is right there for him. But it's just, it's, it's late in the process, which means his recovery is no doubt about it. Going to eat into the, into his first season, but the chiefs are hopefully a team that is competing later in the season late into december into january all that and i think that ojabo is going to be able to give them a pass rush spark once they get into the postseason then of course beyond that as well you're hoping that he's giving you a lot of juice as a pass rusher that you can build around for a while because they definitely need that they

need some new blood with that pass rush. So it's a pick that I've made before, but I really do like it. Ojabo going 30 to the Kansas City Chiefs, which means their haul is Chris Alave and David Ojabo. You are very welcome, Kansas City Chiefs fans. All right, the Bengals are on the clock. They've done such a good job rebuilding this offensive line with veterans,

which is what we felt they should do. Rather than taking the chance of that rookie development, they went out and got three big-time bets for that offensive line. And we are approaching a scenario that I have been bracing for for about a full week now that I've heard more traction on. Tyler Linderbaum could very well fall to the second round. It would not floor me. I've said it in the best like this.

If you asked me three months ago, I would have said, never ask me that again. You're crazy, 0%. You ask me now, I put it... Don't talk to me again. Don't speak to me, lose my number. Now I put it at like 10 to 15% that it could happen. He's not going to be the pick here for the Bengals.

Obviously, with the additions they've made. I'm going to go with Devin Lloyd here. I know you've been on the linebacker train for them for a while. I agree with you. They want to get a little bit faster in the middle of the defense. Lloyd plays faster than his testing times. His instincts are phenomenal. He's a three down backer. When you look at what he'd be able to do there, come into that middle of that defense. You feel good enough about their front. They obviously have money sunk into the back end you play lloyd with logan wilson you have a really young duo in the middle of the field that can handle three downs of your defense and i think it's low-key something

with the bangles that they have to have in mind early on in this draft you know it's a pick that i like a lot and it's also a pick that bangles fans don't like a lot so now you get the hate on twitter now pass the baton you yeah shit on me all week it's fine it's not me this time i do like the pick i do like to pick look i get it they've spent damn good player they need to get better at linebacker. I'm sorry. That's just the reality. I don't know if they're going to do it, but they need to get better at it. They have fixed the offensive line, like Connery said,

enough for them to have this flexibility if they want it. I think they should take it. It's also what we think they would do. That's got to be what you're saying. It's got to be on the board. It's got to be on the board for them. Detroit Lions back end here at number 32. They don't need a center center. This yeah i'm not i'm not having to

race for like you run into the spot is the worst mock draft i've ever seen if tyler doesn't get the first round but i'm not gonna have him going in the first round so title on youtube garbage mock draft this is the worst mock draft you've ever seen actually that would uh that would do numbers the views people would just jump into the dumpster comment section lions we had them going trayvon walker at the top and number two i'd like to get them a wide receiver i thought about george pickens i thought about christian watson here but they also need a linebacker really badly and i think the detroit lions still believe this is a multi-year rebuild kind of a thing and they're gonna have time to get a wide receiver they went out and they got chart they already know they have

a great slot guy and I'm on our st. Brown so they've got TJ Hawkinson like I think they still believe they have time and they want to make that big splash at wide receiver I still believe that that's the case so um 32 Lions trading 32 overall for DK Metcalf. No, I'm kidding. Although, now that I say it out loud. What? Now that I say it out loud. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, I don't think it's going to happen. Send it in.

It would be great. The Lions should absolutely. Oh, man. Send it. I don't think the Seattle Seahawks should accept it. No, no, no. That was me just spitballing there. I am going linebacker though i'm going

i'm going with the kobe dean i think the lions would love nicole b dean i get it his stocks kind of falling in the i'll say in the media sphere because this dude's not testing and i think he's not testing because of what connor and i have brought up on this podcast before he's got small limbs he's a smaller linebacker. He's just got shorter arms, shorter legs. And so like the zero to 60 kind of like tests or agilities, they might not be the best for him, but you see from his,

you never see that show up in his play. And that means that he is so good at anticipating. He has such a high football IQ and that he is a, he is still an explosive athlete he just doesn't have long limbs he's just not as tall as other guys so he's not covering as much ground with that that doesn't make him a bad football player in any way shape or form he was in fact the opposite he was one of the best football players in the country this past year he's still going to be a damn good pro in the nfl um i just think it's going to be more of a back end of the

first round maybe early second round kind of a selection but detroit would love them they got a big linebacker need i think they would love them boom there's the first round there's the mock worst mock draft you've ever seen folks yeah yeah tell us in the comments this is the trashiest mock draft ever i didn't think it was that bad i think it's solid you know it's interesting that we had uh both linderbaum and carloftis fall out of the first round and i don't think that's out of the realm of possibilities in four or five weeks wherever we are close to the nfl draft yeah i agree it's uh it's baseball all the time crazy to say because i think that i don't know where you

have carloftis but like both those guys think would be top 20 on my board and to have both of them fall out of the first round it it's just... Have them 19th. Okay, so you got a top 22. So consensus top 20 players on the NFL Stock Exchange board. But we have said this before. The most difficult part of a mock draft is not predicting picks that make sense. It's predicting the inevitable picks that don't... Yes. I don't want to even say don't make sense it's predicting the inevitable that don't yes that don't i don't

even say like don't make sense that just you didn't think they'd go in this direction and so we're kind of our lord have mercy uh so we're trying to put our feet in the shoes of some of these teams and see if we can uh tell you exactly what we think is going to happen what we've been doing with our ears, if you will, listening to a lot of things around the NFL. So, buddy, that was fun. That was good. That was a great first off-the-cuff mock draft for us there.

Let me say this. There was a lot less panic than I expected. Yeah. Not a lot of panic. There was a couple times where we had to keep talking while I was trying to think of making the pick, which is definitely an old trick from mock drafters. Just keep talking and the pick will come to your mind eventually.

No dead air. But overall, I mean, it feels pretty good considering we called it the dumpster mock draft. Yes. And I think, you know, it's interesting. It's like a sweet science. There's a couple teams that you go for months, thexans uh that you're just like i just can't i can't figure it out and then one day when you're do 80th mock draft monday in a row it's like that it's just you're like oh that's it yeah that's what they want to be that's what they're going

to build that's something that makes a lot of sense and i feel like we're starting to get there in areas where we we were not there for a long time So, I mean, it's cool when you start to see those results. Hopefully you guys enjoyed hearing us kind of think out loud, if you will, some of appearing behind the curtain of how we've done mock drafts in the past. So that's it. You got to hear us kind of spitball all of our ideas

as they're coming to our minds and then eventually making the picks that we did. The mock draft, Mattis, is not over for the week. We've got two more episodes this week, both of them mock draft focused. On tomorrow's episode, we are continuing the guest mock draft series with picks number four, five, and six. That is the New York Jets, the New York Giants, and the Carolina Panthers. So we are going to have guests, and we already know who they are.

They are fantastic guests on to cover these teams, give you the inside scoop how the season went how the offseason went what these teams are thinking when it comes to the draft and we get some great nuggets from these guys and then eventually we will have them get to make a mock draft pick eventually giving us a full mock draft in about a month right before the right before the actual draft starts is when we're going to finish this one but it's always really cool to listen and then look back and see where we came. That's tomorrow and the rest of the week.

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