NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 281. Richardson Done In Indy? + Trade Destinations

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers react and unpack the surprising news of Anthony Richardson being benched. The two dig into what they really believed went into the decision, whether or not it is salvageable and if now some potential team landing spots for Richardson they like.

Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. In this spontaneous episode, Anthony Richardson has been benched by the Indianapolis Colts, and there is so much to unpack. The overall philosophy of when you draft these younger quarterbacks, how much of a leash you give them, was this justified? What was the reason? And potentially, if Anthony Richardson is done with the Indianapolis Colts, where could he be playing next? We give you those destinations as well. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers.

Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sycamore. That is Connor Rogers joining you spontaneously. I know that we said for the Fixing the Jets episode that that was probably the only episode that we were going to be able to do this week. But when the former number four overall pick in Anthony Richkin gets benched and sends ripple effects throughout the entire league, well, this is a draft podcast.

We got to talk about it. Conor, how you doing, my friend? You ready to dive into the most divisive topic in sports right now? I am. It's crazy. It's I mean, it wasn't shocking when it officially came down because Steichen wouldn't even commit to him at the presser to open the week. I think it was more shocking when he wouldn't commit to him. Right.

Considering not only where they drafted this guy it's almost you know you knew the instructions manual when you drafted him kind of told you this could very well be the case but at the same time I understand some of it where you got a locker room that you got to serve I've I've covered a similar situation and I think Richardson was better at times than Zach Wilson but there was times where you know the Jets wanted to continue with Zach Wilson's development and they, Robert Sala knew he had to kind of do right by the rest of the locker room and give them the best chance to win. And it feels like the Colts have run into a situation where, you know,

I did Sims unbuttoned today and Chris made a really good point to me. Like they also see these guys in practice every day. And then the team gets a feel of what they're dealing with with their backup quarterback and Joe Flacco we don't see him in practice but the times we have seen him play this year this Colts offense has performed better through the air so it you're right Trevor it is a very very divisive you know divisive and complicated and convoluted topic and decision overall and And I think it's a topical one here for this draft podcast, not only because we're going to talk about investments

and development and things like that, but there's another quarterback in this draft who I like quite a bit in Jalen Milrow, who now all of a sudden you sort of have these same conversations about, right? I mean, like before you could kind of defend it. You say, well, if Anthony Richardson can go on high in the draft, well, why can't Jalen Milrow? Well, if Anthony Richardson's already getting benched, that's not a good case for how high you take a guy like Jalen Milrow.

We can get into all that stuff. There's a lot of different angles here that I want to get into. We'll talk about sort of where the Colts are, where the Colts could go from here, some short and long-term visions that they might be going through. I also want to talk about, hey, there's a reality. When you bench Anthony Richardson, there's a reality that he does not play for the Colts again. And I think the reason why he is benched, play goes into it. I think one play in particular means the most, and it's the one where he was tapping the top of his helmet, which we'll get to in a second. But if there's a possibility if he's not going to be on this team much longer,

whether it's maybe before the deadline, which would be super fast, or maybe this offseason, I'm going to talk about some landing spots. I want to talk about some landing spots of where I actually think Anthony Richardson should go because I don't think the dude's career is over. I really don't.

But just to kind of like catch people up to speed. I mean, we don't have to spend too much time on this because I think everybody knows it. The Indianapolis Colts lose to the Houston Texans this past weekend they dropped it out four and four on the season it was a close loss it was 20 to 23 it was at Houston so it was a road game Richardson in this one 10 for 32 175 yards one touchdown one interception they have any 55.4 PFF grade, but four big-time throws in this game with two of them being drops and one turnover-worthy play. Now, Richardson's completion percentage,

I think Seth Galena had this stat that he sent me, out of like 747 quarterbacks since 2010, Richardson's like third worst. He's in very rarefied air in a bad way first in average depth of completion he's first so it's just it's crazy you know whichever side of this richardson debate you are on you've got evidence to your side. And that's why I wanted to have this emergency podcast here with you, Connor. What are your thoughts here? Obviously, I want to hear your thoughts on the play. You kind of talked about it a little bit there.

I would love to hear a little bit more about when you kind of covered Zach Wilson being in the locker room and kind of that dynamic there. I think that's very important. But also, we've got to talk about him tapping himself out of the game because it was something that when we watched on the broadcast you go that's a little weird that doesn't happen with the quarterback position and then right after the game you got your starting center ryan kelly was like yeah we talked about that and essentially i'm paraphrasing here he was a lot nicer about it to the media but he's basically like that shit doesn't fly we're

playing yeah we're tired as crap we're playing through pain we're playing hurt that shit doesn't fly we don't tap out neither can you and you feel like that was the message that he probably said anthony richardson at the time and maybe why richardson isn't the starter right now but connor love to hear your thoughts my friend right there's always a long road to get here and i think i thought ryan kelly's presser was super interesting because he stood by richardson you know working hard and being a young player but he also stood against that play and by saying that's not a standard you know that we set here like things are there's a higher standard set here and you got to learn from that so this wasn't a situation in any way shape or form that the locker room revolted against the starting quarterback.

Like, let's just make that clear. It feels like one where, you know, and Joe Flacco has been really supportive of Anthony Richardson. This is such a different scenario when Flacco felt like he still had something in the tank and Lamar Jackson was breathing down his neck. And Flacco, I think, didn't really want to let go yet. Then now Flacco with the way he's bounced around. But to be fair, like rebirth this career, he's the guy that doesn't mind being a mentor and playing when needed. And Flacco has been very, very supportive of Richardson getting these reps and saying he needs to get reps. So this was fully Shane Steichen reading the room and saying that like, Hey, we got to do,

you know, what's best to win games. And the Colts are also in a unique situation all the way up top. I mean, Chris Ballard has been there since 2017. There's not a ton of GMs around the league or not an overwhelming amount of GMs around the league that have been running a football team for the better part of a decade right now and he's gotten an insane amount of tries at quarterback yes i know a lot of them have been veterans but like that's correct that is then benching richardson there's i don't think there's any way ballard survives this well that's given the way that it's gone so he he's 58 and 64 and is a lot of, you know,

wide range. It's not like a Ballard has just been this eight and nine GM. I mean, they were four and 12, 10 and six, seven and nine, 11 and five, nine and eight,

four and 12, nine and eight. And then now four and four, it feels like they've had some really low points. And then they've also had just mediocrity where they haven't gone very far in the playoffs too they haven't made it past the divisional round right so that's a long time to build a roster and you point out the most important part Trevor a lot a lot of different chances to get the quarterback position right and this was his swing so I I don't think

number one by the way that the Colts are actually giving up on Anthony Richardson or that he'll be on a different team next year. And my reason being is, one, this is kind of what you signed up for. There's just a circumstance where the team is ready to make the playoffs this year and Flacco gives them the best chance to win. Anthony Richardson is three months younger than Shadur Sanders right now. He is 22. He doesn't turn 23 until May. He needs to play football, but he also is coming off a year where he had season ending shoulder injury last year. He didn't really have a real off season to get things right mechanically and work out and improve. He looked bad in the preseason. He did. He looked like a guy that was just thrown right

back into the fire and wasn't, you know, he did look really bad. You're right. And that injury really set back his development because I think that first off season for any rookie quarterback, any quarterback coming off their rookie season is vital. And he really didn't have that because of the health concerns. So this to me, I don't think they're giving up on him because quite frankly, what are the Colts going to do next year? We talk about all of these teams that need quarterbacks. This quarterback class is not like last year's and And last year's, we knew Caleb was going to play. We knew Jaden was going to play. We knew Drake May was eventually going to play. Penix was a very unique situation. I mean, there's a world where Penix goes to the Raiders or Vikings and he's playing right away. You throw

that one out the door. Obviously, Bo Nix is playing. J.J. McCarthy had such a good summer. Sam Darnold's played well, but McCarthy was going to push Sam. Do we really think six quarterbacks or rookie quarterbacks are starting? And Spencer Rattler has already played this year, by the way. I mean, let's be real. Shadur is probably going to play as a rookie. I think Cam Ward's going to play as a rookie. I don't think Jalen Milrow should play.

I don't think Quinn Ewer should play. Yeah, sure. There are teams that just won't have options this offseason. So I don't, the Colts are going to win a good amount of games. They're not going to be picking to get one of those guys. So all in all, I think Anthony Richardson, they try to get this right with him next year, but it does create an awkward situation.

And I do think it's one that this is a coach that feels like he's got to win right now and he's got a chance to win right now. And he pulled the plug. And I guess that leads us to the combo about the final straw, which was being tired and coming out for a play. Yeah, and look, I think that if they're benching Anthony Richardson because his play wasn't good enough, I think that's asinine. I think that's crazy.

Because to me, you're stepping over $100 bills to pick up pennies. Yeah, that's fair. What's Joe Flacco going to give you? The wild card and a wild card loss? Come on, let's be real about it. You're not winning the Super Bowl. What's the best case scenario with Joe? The best case scenario with Joe Flacco is maybe you win in the wild card round

and maybe that's enough for you because people are talking about, okay, well, you're coaching for people's jobs and you're coaching for Chris Ballard's job or something. And dude, there's so many layers to this, right? But from Richardson's point of view, if you're benching him because he's not playing well enough, like if you want to say to yourself, well, you know, you got other guys in the locker room to think about, and I'm not talking about him tapping himself out. We'll talk about that more in a second.

I'm just focusing on his play. Because I think people go, well, he's not playing well. He's not completing the ball well enough. All this kinds of stuff. I'm not saying it's perfect. But for you to draft Anthony Richardson, where you did it, number four overall, knowing that he had one year as a starter at UF, with a coach that had

just come in too by the way he was going through a coaching change of when he was there committing under dan mullen and then it goes to billy napier so you're going through a coaching change and it's your first year as a starter your rookie season you played four games before missing the rest due to injury by the way you also went through a concussion you don't have the full off season to be able to practice probably the way that you want to and now you're gonna pull the plug on him because you're four and four get out of here yeah you're right yeah that's what are you talking about and so anybody anybody that looks at this like objectively like richardson's not playing well enough to have the job that's malpractice of you drafting, you not understanding

the player that you were drafting. Now, I had to say all of that because I don't actually think that's why he got benched. Because Shane Steichen himself said, you know, a lot of really good reporters who report on that team and follow that team daily, they have tweeted like, Shane Steichen was the guy who pushed for Anthony Richardson. Shane Steichen wanted Anthony Richardson in the draft. Like, after they drafted Anthony Richardson, Shane Steichen said the best way to get better is through reps. So there's no way that he's totally going back on that right now,

10 games into Richardson's career as a 22-year-old. The reason why he got benched is because he tapped out of that game, in my opinion. I think so, too. And I also don't think that the locker room, I sort of agree with you. I'm not in the locker room. This is all speculation. But it sure doesn't sound like the locker room was ready to mutiny

against the guy. I think it might have just been the offensive line was that pissed off. I think they were too and that is the strength of this football team because you listen to some of the clips of josh downs when they're asking him about it josh downs is it it's not like he sounds thrilled that anthony richardson's not the starter anymore and he's been way better with flacco specifically right and he's not really thrilled about richardson at least he didn't sound like it maybe he's just like maybe he's just a stonewall

dude with his emotions but like michael pitman jr also you know so i i saw this pitman now obviously like hasn't played well over the last couple of weeks with richardson they haven't had a great connection but i saw a tweet that was like uh pitman found out that richardson got benched on social media because there wasn't this big team meeting or something like that. So to me, it makes me feel like the offensive line, and I'm not blaming the offensive line, I get their frustrations. I want to be very clear about that. I understand.

As the quarterback of the team, even for Richardson throwing a 300-pounder off of you and then scrambling or whatever, buddy, that's not an option. It's not an option for you to tap out. You're the quarterback and you're the leader of the team. Everybody looks to you. You can't be doing that. But to me, the reason why I'm bringing that up as a response to sort of like what you said of you think that he could certainly be on the team. You don't think they're getting rid of him. It gets very tricky now because let's say Flacco doesn't get hurt. Let's say Flacco plays most of the rest of the season. Even maybe like two games left or something,

Richardson might come in. But let's just say that Richardson, or let's say that flacco plays the whole rest of the season richardson comes back next year and you go all right anthony's learned he's matured he's our guy he's great now you're in year three of him as a quarterback you think he's gonna look that different you think he's gonna look that different coming into next year sitting there without any experience i don't so instead now start of year three guess what he's still gonna look green he's still gonna look inexperienced and now you're

gonna have every question come up of whether or not he's the guy and i don't even know if you go into next year with just him as the guy you're probably gonna bring him a backup at that well you have to because of his injury history it's just so ugly to me if you do keep him. And it makes me think that whether it's before the trade deadline, which we'll get to in a little bit, or not, I don't think he's the long-term answer for this team anymore because of how this was sort of handled. What do you think?

I think it's tricky. I think it feels that way, but I just don't know what the pathway to an answer is. Right. Are you going to give up on Richardson's talent before a year three to go out there? And I mean, God only knows what bring in Jacoby Brissett,

like for real, what the hell are they going to do? This is why this is so crazy to me it's it seems very short-sighted to me and i i know this league has really changed right we had this conversation a little bit on fantasy football happy hour today where if you look back and you know sometimes you know and sometimes you don't like back 20 years ago or even shorter than that quarterbacks had such a longer rope man they really really did I mean you look at David Carr David Carr started five years for the Texans and was never good he was never going to be wrong they got him absolutely demolished to be fair to

David Carr but they really get like they really waited it out to see what he had Eli Manning is one of the most interesting cases to me I know Richardson is a very different prospect profile but Eli was not really it felt like Eli really didn't figure it out I thought until year four or five I would say And he was still throwing a lot of interceptions up until about that fifth year. So the window, look at Bryce Young. Now, Bryce Young is a different scenario because I didn't think Bryce Young ever really showed anything.

I think I can find plays of Anthony Richardson where I go, man, there's about six guys in the NFL that can do that, sometimes three. Look, was his tape against the Texans perfect? No. I think there were a lot of really good moments in that game. Anthony Richardson gave them a chance to win that game. If A.D. Mitchell gets two feet inbounds instead of one,

they win that football game. If Goodson catches that front pylon bomb beauty that Richardson threw him, they win that football game. Maybe we're not even having this conversation. He had so many good throws in the game. He had four big-time throws. Yeah, and they were, like you said, I mean, the one drop that was Pittman, right? Or, no, it was a couple.

I'm literally re-watching them right now. There was a couple drops that you just can't drop. Right. They're perfect throws throws they're absolutely perfect throws the the goods in one was egregious in my opinion i just yeah you're right this this feels like there's something larger here that i know it was a really rough start to this game i think he was 215 at one point and maybe he does need a real refresher because mechanically, when he's not throwing the ball down the field, it looks like he is just aiming that aiming a shot put almost. It's just it's awkward.

It's weird. It's it's never, you know, in rhythm and comfort. Everything just looks like he has no idea where it's going to go from that five to 15 yard range. And maybe they feel like they need to actually reset that here in terms of the player as a whole. Like, I don't think Anthony Richardson, yes, the tired thing was an immature moment. He's a really, you know, grounded guy, hardworking guy. Like you're not worried about that side of things with him. I think he's just really far away right now and I think when they drafted him he was really far away with a lot of

upside but that's the nature of the position right now you're right Trevor this all kind of comes back to how is this gonna impact how teams evaluate some quarterbacks going forward as well and I think it will I want to talk about maybe some potential landing spots because I think it's worth the conversation. Yeah, it is. As we sort of talk about the 2025 NFL draft as well. But I'll sort of wrap up my thoughts and say this. I wonder if they don't think...

Like you said, from what I had heard about Richardson, hardworking kid, obviously all the talent in the world, everything like that. Everyone loves the person. I mean, I wonder if they actually think that. Because to me, certainly tapping out of the game is one thing, but I even look at how crazy that tap-out play was and think, you don't give up on your franchise quarterback even

just for that play are there other moments throughout practice like you said that we don't see in the game work ethic wise whatever we're like there were little doubt i i don't know i do not know this please don't like quote me on this i don't know i think he's broken fundamentally that's what i think that's just I am not saying that you're wrong. If that's why they're benching him, it's crazy. It's crazy to me, especially given what you knew you signed up for when you drafted him for overall. He's 22. He started like eight games in college. He started 10 games now. He started 23 since high school. 23.

I cannot get on board with the play. I can't. If you tell me that he's got some maturity things that he's got to work through, that's a different story that I cannot speak to. But if you tell me it's because of the play, I just, I cannot agree with it. I think that's just, that is such a bad process.

If that's why they're moving on from it is a bad process, though. Like, I truly think it's a bad process. It's it's a little easier for people like us to sit here and say that, though. I do think it's got to be hard being in the head coach's shoes. Once again, I've been close to it. I don't think Robert S sala wanted to bench zach wilson and when zach wilson after they lost to the patriots at new england a couple years ago on a walk-off punt return but and he didn't take accountability sala re-evaluated things and they got back when i remember that yeah it was the year

before they got rogers um they got back Wednesday, and Salah had to bench him because he had to look the other 52 individuals in the eyes. And I think that's what I'm saying. That's what I think the situation is here. And when a player loses, even a young player, when he loses that forward, because you remember, it felt like Zach Wilson was saying all the right things after that. It did change him a lot.

It felt like it really did change Wilsonson after that but it was too late it was too late and i wonder and i wonder if it's too late with richard and i wanted to get into potential landing spots if we do think that he could potentially move on but before we get into that best part about football season checking out the postgame stats right which wide receivers have more than two touchdowns quarterbacks have more than 300 yards which running backs have more than 75 yards all this kinds of stuff. You think you know what's going to happen before kickoff? Play Pick 6 from DraftKings, an official daily fantasy partner of the NFL. Download the DraftKings Pick 6 app now.

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your first month it's better help help.com slash nflse all right connor i do want to talk about some landing spots here because i think there is a legitimate chance that anthony richardson i don't want to say like has played his last down for the Colts, because if the season doesn't go well and they're out of it by two games, Richardson could come back in at the end of the season. Maybe he does stay, and maybe they can't figure it out. But I think the margin for error for that is pretty low. I kind of think he's going to get traded.

And I'm going to be honest with you, where my mind goes first, he's getting traded at the deadline. Oh, wow. Jeez. All I'm saying is, if the Colts would be open to it, which I don't think they would be, if I'm the Giants,

I'm on the phone. I'm calling them. Look at what these other quarterbacks have gone for. Zach Wilson went for a seventh round pick. Actually, what was it? Wasn't it like a pick swap? It was like a sixth and a seventh, basically. So Zach Wilson goes for a pick swap.

Trey Lance goes for a fourth round pick. Justin Fields goes for a sixth. Mack Jones goes for a sixth. Kenny Pickett goes for like a fourth and a pick swap after that. Malik Willis went for a seventh. These quarterbacks, once teams give up on them, you can get them pretty cheap. Again, I don't know if the Colts are in fire sale mode with Richardson, but if I'm the Giants, I'm going to figure out whatever the price is. I love the thought of Richardson getting to go to Brian Dable and play in Dable's offense

because you know that Daniel Jones ain't the answer. So if you have the opportunity to get Richardson on a tryout for like a mid-round pick, like a fourth round pick, and you get eight games to evaluate him before you go into this off season and maybe go draft the quarterback. Connor, I like that, man. I like that scenario. So if there's any, any, any chance at all, like I, like if I'm the Giants, I like that, man. I like that scenario. So if there's any chance at all, like if I'm the Giants, I've already picked up the phone. I've already called the Colts today to figure out what the price is. And if it's too high, hey, it's too high.

It's fine. But if there's any chance that he gets dealt before the deadline, if I'm the Giants, I got to figure out what that price is. That's the landing spot that I like the most if he's going to go anywhere. I do too. From a schematic, you know, hands-on approach table working with a guy that's got all, you know,

obviously no one is Josh Allen, but there are some similarities in terms of Josh needing to learn how to throw a couple off speed pitches. When he got into the league from Wyoming, how to use his running ability, making him just a smarter player. I'll say this. If the Colts trade Anthony Richardson for a third or a fourth round pick, they're out of their fucking minds.

I agree. I agree. This isn't Trey Lance status yet, Zach Wilson status yet, Justin Fields status yet. Maybe I'm just holding on to traits, but I think they have totally fumbled this entire process. If that's the road they go down, I would need some kind of draft asset that I can package with my first rounder to go up and get a different quarterback. Like that, that just has to happen for me if I'm the Colts. And I'm not saying you're going to get a first-round pick for him.

I was going to say, I don't think the Giants would give you anything close to that. All I'm saying is, I'd pick up the phone. I don't hate the marriage of Brian Dable with Anthony Richardson, but I'm with you. I think that'd be crazy if the Colts did it. If you're giving up on him because of

maturity reasons, if you don't think that he's going to get better, if you think this isn't salvageable maybe you are looking to move before the deadline but you're nuts would be nuts it'd be crazy but if you're moving them maybe in the offseason a couple of teams i might like rams potentially depending on what happens with matthew stafford that'd be a really interesting fit we've never seen McVay with a quarterback right like that but McVay has been running power running concepts more over the last two years I I don't think that's not within McVay's wheelhouse to incorporate that in a quarterback that might be able to do with Richardson although of course he's been banged up when he's been a runner but the other two that I like Seattle is one of them

the Seattle Seahawks, I think are a team with depending on what they do with Gino Smith. Cause it feels like they haven't necessarily been as committal as I thought that they would be with Gino. Felt like the Seahawks were kind of interested in Anthony Richardson during that 2023 NFL draft. And so I feel like the Seahawks are definitely a spot that could make sense. And then the other spot,

I'm not going to lie, I totally forgot. Now I blanked in my head. I can't remember. So you had the Giants, you had the Rams in Seattle. Those are the teams that I like the most.

Can I guess this? If you could guess it, it would probably trigger it in my mind. So yes, please do. This is actually pretty tough. Would it be Miami? No, although that's

interesting. God, do they need a backup right now? I hate that. Yeah, for me it would be... Oh, I know the other one. Okay, fire away. Depending on what happens this offseason with the Steelers quarterback situation, if there's going to be a team

out there that would take a flyer on a quarterback like Anthony Richardson, we have seen that the Steelers are situation. Yes, yes, yes. If there's going to be a team out there that would take a flyer on a quarterback like Anthony Richardson, we have seen that the Steelers are a team to do that. So I have the Steelers. What do you think of, though, the concept that like, and he's got, he's going to be owed money, so it's a little bit more complicated. Fields feels like a further along version.

Fields runs. Fields is a better thrower. What you're saying, like trade him straight up? No, no, no. If you're the Steelers, wouldn't you want to just bring back Fields? And I know they benched Fields. Oh, yeah. I think they liked the progress he was making.

They just saw a higher ceiling for the offense. They wanted to run with Russ there on a one year. So, but I could be wrong. It's interesting. Very interesting. There's a lot of teams that make sense i think he if he gets traded and once again i don't think he will i think he needs to go somewhere to be a backup where he is developing to eventually have a chance to start that could be there's a lot of different places the The Giants, he'd play right away, I feel like, in that situation.

The Rams, though, Stafford could come back next year. Maybe. Any place behind Stafford. That one, it's so interesting from a schematic approach. I'm trying to think who else would be. Yeah, Miami. Miami I'm fascinated with because McDaniel is such a creative run game designer. And it's so funny. he'd go from having one

of the most physically limited quarterbacks in the league although to a play obviously to is very smart the way he plays and accurate and right taking away from to a going to a guy that has the most physical traits in the world yeah but is not playing you know in rhythm and with timing and it would be just a total juxtaposition yo here's one well no it's just too early to put him in that scenario but if i was them i would do this okay if i was the commanders i would want him just as a backup well jane daniels has a pretty significant injury history and thank god he's been, you know, largely healthy so far, but you could, you could do the same things.

But the more I thought about that too, I got to give Jane Daniels more credit than I have. He's been very comfortable just taking five to eight yard throws over and over again with accuracy and timing. And that's been Richardson's biggest problem. So I kind of walk that one back. The running side exists, but they're,

they're so different. And Jaden has adjusted to an NFL offense way quicker than I ever thought he would, while Richardson has not. I want to say Matt LaFleur just because of what he's done with Malik Willis. If Malik Willis isn't on the team, I think that that's fantastic. But hey, we could be getting way ahead of ourselves. We would love to hear from you guys. It's a crazy situation with what's going on. You tell us, why do you think Anthony Richardson was benched? Do you think it's the play? Do you think it was him tapping out? And is this situation salvageable? Do you think he's going to be on the Indianapolis Colts in a couple of weeks, in a couple of years? And if you

don't, let us know what teams you think could be interested in Anthony Richardson, where you would want to see him play. Best way to do that, youtube.com backslash at NFL Stock Exchange. If you'd like to subscribe, we'd really appreciate it. We'd love you for it. If you're listening to audio only at Tampa Bay Trey at Connor J. Rogers, it's a good way to get in on the show and make sure that your opinions can be heard here. Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here?

No, glad we were able to get this one in. It's very topical. It relates to a situation we see over and over again in this league. We evaluate and follow and project quarterbacks into this league, and this one happened just a little quicker than we thought. I was glad we got a topical episode in to cap off our week. It's wild, man. We're going to continue to have this

conversation about you know just the overall how you view these young quarterbacks we all love to say oh he'll be 20 on draft night but then sometimes we don't love the fact that they're 20 year old human beings and still have a little bit to grow not just in the game but as human beings i think that a lot of that gets lost on this as well we'll keep having that conversation with richardson and a lot of these other young quarterbacks that man have so much pressure when they get drafted high. And we know that that's going to be the case every single year, 2025,

obviously included. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers. Thank you guys so much for watching and listening to the NFL stock exchange podcast. We'll see you guys next week