NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 286. 2025 MOCK DRAFT | QB Options For Browns, Giants, Jets

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers run through a new 2025 mock draft with the updated order post-week 11 in the NFL. They talk through every situation and every pick for each team in the first round.

Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers joining you. Haven't said these words in a while, Connor, for a mock draft episode, baby. Month and a half? Is that the longest we've gone in seasons? I know draft season, we're doing one at least every month sometimes a little quicker with the all-star season and everything like that but bro six weeks the bills are past due yeah family is starving

the power is about to be shut off in both of our buildings right now that's what it feels like and man during draft season i feel like we do one every other week at that point because you got like you said events we're reacting to we have guests on to do mock drafts with us it's just what everybody wants we do a lot of different trades you and i go beyond round one so yeah we're really do there's no denying that especially the way this class is shipping up where it's you know last year tre Trevor when we did mock drafts it was built around the quarterbacks whether it was you know Caleb Williams to Drake May Jaden Daniels at this time of year was skyrocketing Panics and Bo Nix were playing really really well we knew McCarthy was going to go early so you had a lot of crutches to lean on and kind of fill in the gaps where this year i know people

are excited about some of the quarterbacks and the quarterbacks always go but it feels more wide open really than we've had in recent memory it does and this is you know for anybody that might be new to the channel what's up appreciate you appreciate you tuned in why don't you welcome to hell why don't you smash that subscribe button while you're here um we do these drafts this point of the year a little bit more of like what we would do right it's more of an opportunity for us to talk about these prospects and talk about what we like about them what they could bring to the table now obviously projecting some team needs and where teams are that definitely goes into it and we like to be realistic with these things but it is an exercise where we could talk about sort of what we would do as general managers. So that's that time of year, right? When we do fix your

franchise, we get total control of franchise and tell you what we would do. It's the same sort of thing here in mock drafts, which is great timing that we're doing a mock draft here on this episode because I just released the new updated PFF big board, which now has over 280 prospects in it so you guys can see all that beautiful stuff over at pff.com and we'll be using the pff mock draft simulator to go through this exercise all of those prospects are ranked in order i think it's 281 is what i have officially on the list and i got five more guys i'm watching tonight so i'm gonna put those guys on the list uh not too far after you hear this podcast or watch this podcast so make sure you're going over to pff.com and using that updated big board whenever you are doing your mock drafts connor

you ready fired up i said we rock and roll let's do it pulling up the beautiful mock draft simulator there it is the updated mock draft order as of right now trent balky does still have a job with the jacksonville jaguars which means that it would be the third time in five years that he would be picking number one overall for Jacksonville you can't even do that on Madden if you try if you did that on Madden you can't right you'd be toast Trent Baalke's like a cat barbecued chicken what nine lives that what you're saying yeah he's working on quite a few at this point. He's like an Egyptian cat. He's not making this big. He never dies. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man.

I never doubt the Jaguars with anything that their franchise could do, but we're going to help you out here at number one overall. Connor, the question is, as it always is, because we do not do any planning for the show before the show. Odds or evens, what do you want? I can't remember what I did for the first one, which would have been a really smart thing of me to check i think i picked number one but uh jets and bucks are odd numbers here yeah let's give you the odds okay i was actually gonna say can i take the odds

yes i would like you to take because i have a jets conversation perfect that's amazing okay all right greg i was just thinking, too, man, Trent Baalke is just dying to take Mike Hill Williams at number one. He's just looking at Mike Hill Williams like, I got to have him. No. I got to have him. I'm putting my foot down. Damn it.

We're not doing it. We're not doing this again. We're not doing this again. Number one's easy for them right now, isn't it? I think it is. Hold on. Let me officially fire the bad boy up oh by the way if you're looking at right now because there are 280 players on the big board that means that we have all seven rounds unlocked we're not gonna do the seven round marathon telethon charity mock draft you know that you guys have suggested but today it did actually get the wheels turning in

our heads and um connor did text me and he was like actually this would be pretty sick so we are brainstorming a way where we could do something like that like a mega stream right where we could have like multiple people on the show throughout the course of an entire seven round mock draft obviously we wouldn't be doing that anytime soon it would be an off-season thing it would be a draft season thing but that was a really cool idea shout out to the commenter who uh yes who sort of like i think jokingly like a little tongue-in-cheek probably said that but uh we might actually be able to pull that off so that would be fun i think it'd be awesome i think it would be probably something to do you know a couple weeks out from the draft it's weird you do hit a lull because the combine is over the first week of march right and then it's great because we actually get to be

home after being away for what feels like two months and watching more tape and putting together the final boards like that might be like a first week of April kind of exercise. But yeah, the big dream would be for it to be at least six hours. Many people stopping by. We would literally get up and use the bathroom and eat at various points. And put on elevator music for everyone. No, no, no. No bathroom breaks. Full Scott Hansen.

We'd just put our dogs in the chairs while we're gone. That would actually be awesome. I'm telling you, this thing's going to be a be a monster so yeah thank you for helping the wheels get spinning i think that that's gonna be a fun exercise once we finally get there so jacksonville on the clock here at number one overall we're only doing a first rounder for this one i know you guys have kind of like clamored for multiple round stuff one it's sort of we're still in november obviously so we even though we absolutely love you guys for being sickos we're not quite there yet yet to devote, you know, the two hours plus it takes to do, you know, two, three round mock draft, but we promise that is coming. You know, once we get more towards

maybe early parts of January, you get the all-star circuits, you get those two rounders, those three rounders in there. So that stuff is coming. But the fact that all 32 teams in the NFL have first round picks allows us to talk about your team in just a first round format. So it makes it a little bit easier there. So we're sticking with one round here today. Number one, overall Jacksonville, a lot of things that they could address. I mean, the team right now is bad. They just lost 52 to six to the Detroit lions. And look, Detroit is a great team and they've run over a lot of like good teams in the nfl but 52 to 6 this jags defense is actually now like worse than i think people

what's the opposite of give it credit for like give it too much credit for realize yeah yeah i think people look at this jacksonville defense and probably think okay okay like it's it's not the best in the world it's not the worst in the world they are right now 32nd in the NFL and EPA per play allowed and their 30th in PFF grade allowed the only two the only two offenses that are worse than them are the Carolina Panthers and the Dallas Cowboys so this is a bad defense the offense is also a struggle for this team right Bright, explosive plays, really lacking in that area. Brian Thomas Jr. has been a godsend for this team, but can you imagine where they would be if they did not have Brian Thomas Jr.?

Holy cow, they wouldn't be able to move the ball whether Trevor Lawrence had two healthy shoulders or not. They move on from Cam Robinson, so I think the offensive line could be something that you think about here. But Connor, needing offensive playmakers and defensive playmakers. Well, let me tell you, you're in luck, buddy boy. Because we got a historic guy in Travis Hunter that's sitting right here at the very top of the big board. And that's where I'm going with this Jacksonville pick.

To me, I think he's a corner in the NFL. Not that he can't play wide receiver, but I've said this before. My idea with Travis Hunter is you play him full-time at corner and then you have, I don't want to say package plays for him on offense because I think it's a little bit more robust and more volume than that, but you play him a little bit on offense and you play him a lot on defense because you can't really do the opposite. You can't just throw a guy out there for just a couple of snaps of playing corner in the NFL. It doesn't really work like that even for a player as talented as Travis Hunter.

So that's how I would get the best out of everything that he brings to the table. And I think Jacksonville could surely use it. So we're going Travis Hunter at number one. Yeah, I love the pick. I would have made the same pick. I think when it comes down to it, he ironically fills two potential needs for them. And I do like his road at home. Over the summer, I liked him better at wide receiver

but i was very adamant that the growth potential for him at corner was just awesome like the ceiling he has a corner because of the ball skills was so high and i think he's really really sharpened his craft at corner where i'm excited about his long-term at corner knowing that he can help you at wide receiver at times and we'll see what he wants to do it's another combo for another day but this this is the right this is the pick that makes a lot of sense to me it's it's so funny and I don't want to spend a ton of time on this pick because we got to get through all 32 but every single time I watch him make unbelievably acrobatic catches at wide receiver i say to myself he's that same player while playing corner right you know there it's you know one thing to say like oh this corner or this defensive back's got

great ball skills travis hunter might have the best ball skills we've ever seen of the defensive back when he gets into the nfl because of what we're seeing in colorado every single week so jacksonville rejoice tra Travis Hunter is yours. I like it. So number two for me is the Titans. Yep. I think this is tricky because these next, what seven games for Will Levis are going to be huge.

I think Will Levis has played better in recent weeks. I would agree with you. I really do. I'm not taking a quarterback here, but with the full clarifier that one i don't really love a quarterback of two in this draft as we sit here right now two we need to get the clarity on levis and the rest of the season is going to matter a lot and then you know three it just comes down to i don't think there's some obvious guy that's going to be the savior at quarterback in

this spot. And, you know, things could definitely change, but then you go, okay, well, what did the Titans need? And I think their past defenses look pretty dang good this year, to be honest with you, because I know the combo would come up in this spot that you go, do you go, Will Johnson? Do you look at, you know, a DB, a talented DB on the board? I'm not going to go that direction. I think their pass defense has been good. They have Jeffrey Simmons up front in the interior. Tavondre Sweat has played a lot as a rookie. I know he started out the year really hot.

They used first-round capital on offensive line the last two years. Yes, they need a wide receiver where Teteroa McMillan is certainly in play here. I think the two guys in play for me here, Trevor, are Abdul Carter and Teteroa McMillan is certainly in play here. I think the two guys in play for me here, Trevor, are Abdul Carter and Teterow and McMillan. Because pass rush is not perfect. I know Harold Landry was coming off a big injury, but even if they think Harold Landry is going to be there for the long term and productive for them, you obviously need multiple pass rushers.

So that doesn't rule out Abdul Carter, who would give them an explosive threat off the edge where they got a big interior. Like Sweat and Simmons are big, where you can play a lighter-ish guy on the outside. And Carter's not small. Do you think the playmaker is more important in this spot than the pass rusher?

I love Tet, but I'd probably take Carter. That's where I was leaning. The only reason I hit a hurdle with it is, if Levis plays well enough the rest of the season where you believe in him, you obviously want to set him up for success to show that it wasn't a blip on the radar. But I'm going to take Carter in this spot because of the talent. I think I'll have Carter higher on my board than McMillan.

McMillan's nasty, man. He's very good. I don't mean to say this lightly, but you can pick good wide receivers every year. That's another thing, too. Round one, round two, round three, you can pick a good wide receiver. Free agency. Right. It's not going to be a Tessarone McMillan.

I think that he's a pretty rare player. But again, yeah, I would I would go with Abdul Carter the only thing that I would I would push back on is does the Brian uh does the Brian Callahan at head coach thing kind of go into it obviously the magic that he helped make with T Higgins and Jamar Chase and that offense with the Cincinnati Bengals like does he really want to lean into that? Does he want a two headed, you know, monster these studs in Calvin Ridley and Tetsuro McMillan?

Does he feel like he can get that out of Will Levis if he's got those two wide receivers? So that it's, that's sort of my little argument there. Yeah. I would love to hear from Titans fans on this pick because I would call it about 60, 40, me going with Carter over Tet. And of course, and I think when we do another mock draft, I would say two months from now when we really have the answer on quarterback, that could change things too.

But you can't really go wrong with Carter or McMillan in this spot for Tennessee. I think they need both. And if we were doing a two-rounder today, I would love to get the Titans a legitimate wide receiver in the second round in a class that I like. So you're going to – are you – I took Carter. So you're going to Abdul Carter?

Yeah. All right, we're going to Abdul Carter who, uh, as you can see on the screen, like the PFF grades, he didn't play very well against West Virginia. Now remember he's moving over from off ball linebacker to edge for the first time this season, full-time I should say. And, uh, that West Virginia game was the first game that he played. He's been in the seventies or eighties, every single game. So yeah, very good. He's extremely explosive player.

So Abdul Carter going number two overall to the tennessee titans cleveland browns are now on the on the clock here number three we've talked about quarterback obviously being an option for this team um do you force a quarterback here at this spot i i don't know if they do maybe maybe it's to the point where okay you know deshaun watson's been hurt multiple times perhaps we get to a point where they've just got no choice and they're taking a quarterback when it's all said and done. I sort of wanted to explore a reality where we didn't have a quarterback go within the top three.

And Cleveland's offensive line has also not been good. J.D. Quill is a free agent this upcoming offseason. I don't think they're going to bring him back. They've got DeJuan Jones, but I think DeJuan Jones has struggled as well. Man, he looks like the size of a shed. When I was watching the Browns the other day, I think he got banged up or something.

I saw him just sitting down. And when you see a guy like that size sitting down, he always has been huge. I mean, obviously, we were like five feet away from him the two days of the senior bowl practice he had. But I thought he looked even larger this year. I was like, is he like 405 pounds this year? I would bet he's 400 pounds.

Yeah. And that was a season-ending injury for him, unfortunately, for DeJuan Jones, and that lost to the Saints. It just came out as we were sitting here recording. What did he hurt? They're just calling it a season-ending leg injury as it stands he got rolled up on by Wyatt Teller uh which is always a you know just awful for offensive linemen so am I crazy for wanting to go all-line here like am I not at all I mean if you Browns fans will be the first to tell you probably what they've dealt with on the line this year and

it obviously stinks and like Jack Conklin's missed some time and Wyatt Teller's missed some time. And, and I, I just, I look at this offensive line. It's been such an issue for this team. It's been one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. And I think dealing with the injuries have definitely gone into it, but if they get a Will Campbell or a, or a Kelvin Banks Jr. Would they do that since they still obviously owe Deshaun Watson so much money? We're talking about, oh, they have no choice. They have

to cut him. They have to move on from him. No, they don't. It's the same reason why you don't fire coaches because you're going to pay this guy all this money no matter what, so you'd know try to luck into it maybe i i wonder if kevin stefanski is just gonna put his foot down though and be like look i can't win with the guy

you know you could if you're gonna if you're gonna fire me after next year and i have a bad year and you're gonna tell me i have to have the sean then uh you just fire me now dude if they i know there's a lot of a lot of smoke out there and a lot of combos. If this team fires Stefanski. No way. I mean, they're not playing well. Don't get me wrong. I think he's a great coach.

I don't think they're going to, but I'm just saying. Now I've kind of talked myself into it. The quarterback? Picking a quarterback. Yeah. You need to sit here as a general manager and act like Deshaun Watson doesn't exist. Or else you aren't going to have the option to think about that much longer.

Like, the fan base needs Deshaun Watson out of the picture of even wearing this uniform. And I think a big part that helps that is having a young quarterback. Man. But I also, listen, I was the guy that just said, hey, I think it's early to said, Hey, I think it's early to take one or two. So it's, I know the Browns are a unique example. Like the Titans

can try to keep developing. We'll Levis what the brat, what are the Browns going to do? Hope to Sean Watson comes back to a form we haven't seen in years. That's nonsense. So Milrow is my QB one still. Um, I kind of talked about that about a month and a half ago when we were going through our first in-season mock. And I still like Milrow. I really do. We can talk about him a little bit more whenever he gets picked. I'm not going to pick him here.

But I think I'm going to pick Cam Ward. Oh, hello. Welcome. Because to me, Ward, for as much as he is worrisome with some of the crazy, you know, it's almost like fearless to a fault, right? It's like, okay, healthy amount of fear is important here when playing the game of football. You can't just, you know, put the balls in harm's way at all times. You know, you're not playing Madden out there. It's not like you can just turn the console off like when you make boneheaded plays you're you know putting your whole team and your

organization and your fan base sort of at risk there of losing Ward though I think I'm gonna say this and try to not say that like it's a Jalen Milrow negative Ward has been on a journey throughout college football where I think he just plays confident no matter what I think his belief in himself is just unbelievably unwavering and I don't think that that's not the case

with Jalen Milrow but when I think of quarterbacks of this class that I would like to see go into Cleveland's situation and actually make the most of it Cam Ward's the one who I think can do that the best. So it's very close for me. I got Jalen Monroe 12th in the big board. I got Cam Ward 14th. So it's not like there's this massive gap or anything. For this situation specifically, I'm going to go with Cam Ward for the Cleveland Browns because I think they got to

do it. So I like something you brought up there that I think is really important in this class. The franchise is picking at the top that you can write with ink that need a quarterback right now so the Titans don't count here the we're in we're in the run of it now the Browns the Raiders the Giants all in a row yep New England obviously doesn't love what I've seen from Drake May by the way another combo for another day yeah Drake's been awesome. Then the Jets and Panthers at 7-8. Those teams were thinking, you know, and it depends on what they think of Bryce, of course,

and even if Rodgers comes back, which he shouldn't, the Jets will still need one for the future because he'll be 41. But we'll keep it to the three teams. Like, they need to ask themselves, and it's crazy the Giants are in this combo, but we'll keep it to the three teams. Like they need to ask themselves. And it's crazy. The giants are in this combo, but they are, are, are you a guy that can, it's just unflappable, right? Like you can lift us above. Look at what Jared Goff did to Detroit, by the way, I feel like he almost doesn't get enough credit for this. That place did not know how to win.

And yes, the infrastructure gets a lot of credit. Dan Campbell, his coaching staff, the other players on the team. But golf is just as big of a pie of that. You need guys that are unfazed by adversity rather than get swallowed up in hopeless situations. When you get in the right spot, it gets easier to do that, right? It's absolutely. I mean, like you look right now the bears unfortunately are a really tough place for quarterbacks and caleb has kind of hit that rut with it right now where on the other side i mean jane daniels has uplifted washington but like sean

payton is a guy that uplifts quarterbacks and bo nicks is playing really well all of a sudden he's playing within all of a sudden he had had a little bit of a tough start to the season. Wait a second. Not a Bo Lever? No, I'm just kidding. No, he's looking good now for what? Five games? Dalton said while we were watching that game

that the only chance the Falcons actually have to win this football game, he said this before the game got kicked off. He said the only chance they have is to start Michael Penix in this game because Penix is Bo Nix's kryptonite. Pen and washington had his number in the pack for two years that's the only the he's like the only one that will allow the the falcons to win this game is that bonix has to stare at michael pennix on the other sideline it's a good take by don i mean but legitimately he's on he's on a really nice four game yeah I know three three three of the last four I'll clarify either way I'm just saying situations right so I agree

with you that was a long-winded say like I really agree with you Cleveland unfortunately is one of those places that it's it's been a tough place for quarterbacks I think Cam Ward is mentally equipped to go to a place that is not easy to play and that's why he's he's my number one quarterback right now even with the faults that he has in his game i agree now number four i hope raiders fans aren't bored of this pick i just really think it's gonna happen like i think this is the shadur sanders landing spot i think it's a place that dion is probably comfortable with which does matter in this. Or just the organization. Oh, coaching at the Raiders? No.

Maybe some kind of role. You're right. He's going to be in Dallas. Yeah. Dion. Oh, man. It's crazy that this combo has already started. I hope Dion stays in Colorado and keeps cleaning up in the portal and, you know, doing what he's best at.

But we'll see what happens with all that. Yeah, I think this is Shadur Sanders. Okay. I think they obviously like the player. They've liked the player for a while. I think it's a spot that he'd be comfortable with going to Vegas. And this is a team that wanted a quarterback in last year's draft. They just weren't in position to get one.

It happens. And they really need one this year. It's weird. Like you go into this and you know, teams that need a quarterback, but there's a world where the Browns, there's a world where the giants, there's a world where the jets and Panthers don't take one.

Trevor, there's just, there's no way with an honest face. I could sit here and say that the Raiders are like, ah, we'll see. They did the, they did that the Raiders are like, ah, we'll see. They did the, they did that already. No.

Yeah. They are going to take a quarterback. And in this spot for me, it's ironically my, my QB too, right now, like after Cam Ward, it is Shadur. I don't really think he's a prototypical top five pick. I want to be very clear on that. I really don't, but I think they'll really like this player. And I think that he will be obviously an upgrade

for them and they'll they'll try to build the franchise around him all right so we'll go Shador here number four to the Raiders that puts the Giants on the clock at number five so there's two quarterbacks off the board that have just gone boom boom right there with Cam Ward and Shador off the board you mentioned that it You mentioned that it's three teams that need a quarterback here, and Jalen Milrow, who I do like, and when I think of quarterbacks that I would want to take a bet on in this draft class, Jalen Milrow is my number one quarterback for that reason.

I'm not going to take him for the Giants. I'm actually going to go a different direction here with the Giants because Giants fans, I going to go a different direction here with the Giants because and I Giants fans I'd be very curious to hear kind of like what your thoughts are on my overall thoughts with this on one side Daniel Jones just got benched they are starting Tommy DeVito for the foreseeable future perhaps the rest of the season so essentially they're quietly tanking right uh and and I think that, I mean, they just are. What was the point of Drew Locke for $5 million?

Right, exactly. If you're not going to play Drew Locke, you are quietly tanking. Maybe you're like whisper tanking. I don't know. I think they're screaming it. Okay, okay. No. There's no feasible explanation for Tommy DeVito to be playing over Drew Locke.

Maybe they are screaming it. I don't know. Besides, lose games, which they should. But here we go. I look at this situation. Here we go. And shout out to producer Ryan. Ryan's the best man. With the Cowboys fixture franchise, in case you guys missed that.

When I look at the Giants situation, Joe Shane, when we did the fixing the Giants episode, I already kind of talked about, like, I'm okay with both these guys staying. I'm very okay with Brian D'Abel staying. I want him to stay. I think he's a really good head coach. I think he just needs his chance to pick a quarterback.

They've picked a bad year to be bad and make that decision with Daniel Jones, right? Especially if they're not going to pick number one overall or number two overall and have their choice after Travis Hunter goes off the board at number one, which quarterback they're going to take in this class, especially if there's only one left in Jalen Milrow. Maybe they love Jalen Milrow. And if they do, okay, fine. He might be a pick here. I'm not going to take a quarterback though, because I wonder if we look at this situation, do Joe Shane and Brian Dable really want to hitch their wagon to a developmental rookie quarterback? This is not Drake May. I want to be very clear quarterback. This is not Drake May. Like, I want to be very clear here. Any quarterback that you draft in the first round

is still a developmental quarterback, right? There's no sure things in the NFL, but like you introed this mock draft, last year's class was easier to project or at least easier to feel good about than this year's quarterback class. If Joe Shane and Brian Dable are still around they're gonna kind of be on the hot seat going into next season they really want Milrow to be the guy that they have all those chips on because I think Milrow can be really

good in the NFL is he gonna be good next year that's a good point I don't I don't know so I almost feel like this is a team that's much more confident and more comfortable selling out for Sam Darnold or selling out for even like Justin Fields, like getting Justin Fields. And you could say to yourself, oh, here we go, a bridge quarterback. Like, are we really going to do that as Giants fans? But again, would you rather take a quarterback

who's going to take a little bit of time to develop and not give him the time to develop? Because I think that's the worst answer. So I'm actually going to say that the Giants go after a free agent quarterback. And I know that contradicts a little bit of what we talked about in Fix Your Franchise. We talked, we opened that door though. Folks, it's also the joy of the podcast. It's the joy of the podcast. It's the joy of the show.

We're Dr. Strange out here. We're looking at multiple different universes. How many of the Giants win a championship? One. We're trying to thread the needle here. Nobody plays 4-D chess like us. I'm going to say that they get one of the preferred veteran quarterbacks, a Justin Fields, a Sam Darnold, something like that. I'm going to go a different direction here with them.

I'm actually going to go with Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan. Will is having a little bit more of a down year than we would like. He's still a phenomenal football player. And I still think he has CB1 material in the NFL. The numbers aren't great, but I think that he is talent-wise. Deontay Banks has really struggled this year. Drew Phillips has been good. I think Tyler Newben's been good.

But, man, just the secondary overall, they've got to get better in the secondary. So we're going veteran quarterback route in this mock draft, and I'm going Will Johnson here at number five. Listen, it's not crazy. The Giants, I've been thinking about this one a lot lately. The Giants are in the most fascinating spot of any organization in the NFL because it feels like there's a world where they lose the game of musical chairs at the top top for quarterbacks.

And there's also a world that this is just full conspiracy theory, but we're all about that here. I mean, if they are having combos with the Mannings and they want to try to scheme for Arch two years from now, this scenario you planted leaves that door open. It's well known.

This quarterback class is not coveted the same way as last year's was. And Giants, to be fair to Joe Shane, He really wanted Drake may last year for good reason. Yeah. He tried. He wanted a quarterback. I know that they also, obviously they didn't like him enough to take them in the top 10, but they liked Pennix a lot too.

They liked the quarterbacks last year. It's just the quarterback stock got carried away where Pennix went from this fun top 40 guy to the top 10 pick and Bo flew up the board and McCarthy flew up the board. And you know, they, they were more comfortable in the top 10 with a premium wide receiver, like Malik neighbors, once Drake may was gone. So that's the, that's the tough part of the game is you can't always predict when you're going to be bad aligning with a good quarterback class. And I don't think you're crazy for this pick and I do think there is a feeling there with ownership of they are dying to just stop being an embarrassment like they want to win

games as soon as they can and maybe that does kind of lead to the let's get a guy for this year that's a pro and we're going to make a longer plan in a better quarterback class of the future maybe maybe and this what you're outlining is that. So I think it's fair. So you're up with the Patriots at six. I mean, I'm going to take Ted McMillan. Oh, over an offensive lineman? Yeah, because this team, man, listen, number one,

I think they're going to have a lot of money. And can you go, can you go pay a couple offensive linemen and make this unit serviceable and then maybe draft another one on day two i just the talent for me is too important in this spot okay i'm i can't watch drake may out there throwing to kashon booty and um you know they just cut taekwon thornton which is one of the most inexplicable second round picks in a while it's just it's gotta stop man it's gotta stop you have a gunslinger in may may looks good he's playing his ass off get him a number one that funnels the offense through this is mcmillan

all the way okay all right we talked about offensive line because i think offensive line is also a major issue for them they could go out they could go offensive line here and maybe wide receiver elsewhere but that's okay if they do like we talked about it tats pretty rare i think is as a player. So I'd be okay with him at number six here. The Giants, sorry, the Jets now on the board at number seven. This is where, you know, my Jets theory is quarterback. And I think that you hinted at that a little bit when you were talking about the Jets a couple of minutes ago.

But whether Rodgers comes back or not, I'm, I'm getting much more on the train of this should be a quarterback picks for the jets. I don't want to say no matter what, but if you, if you draft Jalen Milrow here at seven and you give him, like if Rogers comes back next next year, that's best case scenario, actually. You give Milrow a year to sit. It's going to be an offensive head coach, we got to think, that's going to come into New England, or sorry, with the Jets. So is Milrow's offense going to look anything like Rodgers' offense?

No, it's not going to. So I think there's a little bit of trickiness there, but I love the idea of drafting milrow and actually allowing him to sit and learn and get things down and watch one of the best quarterbacks of all time even though he's not in his prime sit in meeting rooms with him learn little things from him and then you're taking off running next year being able to run much more of a dynamic dual threat offense which is why i like jaylen milrow a lot so unless you veto me here i'm not going to i'm not i'm going to take milroy to the jets okay so i i like about 75 of this and the the other 25 is so you don't even have to do

anything that's the beautiful part like you're you're doing great okay Okay. I mean, obviously, you're walking me through it. I like this. This is good. You're guiding me here. There's a world where I do love Mason Graham next to Quinton Williams. Yeah, sure. But listen, yes, you need a quarterback. So let's just put that aside.

I did this caveat all last year. I was like, I'd love Brock Bowers on the Jets. I really would, but they need a tackle so let's put that aside that if i could just take anyone on talent but that's not how football works graham is a lot of fun now let's get to the milro of it all which your setup is really good what i will offer you as an alternate scenario and why i said you don't have to do anything if rogers presence in the building is and i'm not in that building not not this time of year if his presence in the building is a problem for just at night when i break in yes right exactly just sitting in the draft room pondering. The problem with keeping Rodgers, besides the $35 million bonus

that I think would be owed to him. Are you going to cut him? Would we cut him? You obviously hope he retires if you're the Jets. But if he's on this roster, I think it doesn't create the same attraction from a hiring standpoint as it would without him because he is a very

stern figure who is aging rapidly. Yeah, but I think... Wait, you're saying that's alluring or it's not alluring? I don't think it is, and I have a built-in plan that's the same one as yours without the baggage of Aaron Rodgers.

Tyrod Taylor is on this roster next year for $6.8 million. There's no cap saving. Okay, you save a million dollars if you cut him. Why would you? He's one of the better backups in football. The offense with Tyrod Taylor is the same as it is with Jalen Milrow. Kind of. I know Tyrod would be 36.

Yeah, Tyrod's older. He's older. In theory, it's the same player. You could do some of the same as it is with Jalen Milrow. Kind of. I know Tyrod would be 36. Yeah, Tyrod's older. He's older, but in theory, it's the same player. You could do some of the same things. Rodgers cannot move right now. He cannot move. Like, if you put him in a go-kart, I don't know if he can move right now. Man, I'm so smart for thinking of this. I'm glad you didn't tell me any of it. You were pretty much there.

You don't even have to do anything. I like it. I like it. I like it. And you know what? You know what? I'll push back a little bit on you. I actually think that this job remains, well, depending on how you look at the organizational situation. We talked about hiring a president of football operations and how much is Woody Johnson involved and all that kind of stuff.

There's other layers to this but as a coach specifically i actually think this is a great landing spot because you get to come in and you don't have to take fit from aaron rogers because he's there for what one more year maximum right he's got no leverage in the situation right so you're basically like you because because here's the beauty of it you would be hired of course to try to win as many football games as you can with aaron rogers if you're bringing him back but you're also hired for the long haul if you're only hired for an aaron rogers season then the hiring process is screwed the hiring process is terrible right off the bat so we're trying not to operate off of terrible process here we're

trying to operate after good process which sometimes it's not great with the jets not taking shots at the jets it's kind of how it's been for other franchises as well it is but the head coach could basically come in because that's where i think they were screwed that's where i think the rod the whole rogers situation got screwed because you brought aaron rogers in and all of a sudden he was the most powerful man in the organization I know he kind of like chuckles and rolls his eyes and says he's not that maybe it's true but I certainly think it is true he immediately became more powerful than Joe Douglas he immediately became more powerful than Robert Sala and he became more powerful than basically anybody other than the owner and you're 100% right and whoever gets

hired to be the president of football operations to to be the general manager, and to be the head coach of this team, they don't have to listen to Aaron Rodgers. No, they don't. They can tell him to pound sand if he's going crazy. Which they should. So, yeah, Jalen Monroe at number seven. All right. We're in.

We got there. Something I love about Jalen Monroe, just real quick, because we didn't spend a lot of time on Jalen Monroe, why I have him QB1, there's a couple of reasons why. One, every quarterback in this class sort of has drawbacks, has flaws. And I think that that's an important way to start conversations whenever you're talking about who you might have quarterback one in this class. All these quarterbacks have drawbacks and flaws.

So if you're looking to nitpick, I don't even say nitpick, if you're looking to point out weaknesses, everybody's got weaknesses in this class. So that's not really a, oh, yeah, I didn't really think about that because he's got weaknesses and this guy doesn't. That doesn't exist. Certainly not. I don't think it exists ever, but it certainly doesn't exist in this class. Two, Jalen Milrow, to me, has the talent ceiling to be a starter at the NFL level. He also has the mobility of where the game is going.

Mobile quarterbacks, being a dual threat, keeping defenses on us in all ways. We're seeing that with quarterbacks, obviously like Lam jackson and justin herbert and and and um and josh allen like at the very top level it's these guys who could be constant threats at all times no matter what even patrick mahomes you know he's not the fastest guy in the world but he's a mobile dude you got to keep track of him if you play true man coverage and everybody's got their back turn guess what he's going to pick up a first down on you you love quarterbacks that give you that option that have that type of playmaker mentality and jalen milrow absolutely does the next thing i want to point out is he's only been a starter for two years. Last year, it was kind of a struggle for him. He gave you those high big-time throws,

but the accuracy, the consistency, it wasn't there. This year, is it perfect? No. It's a lot better than what it was last year, and you're telling me this is only his second year as a starter? That gives me faith that he is still growing he is still learning he can still improve and the last thing is that i have yet to hear anything other than rave reviews about his character it's a player that i'll bet on that's massive and that's what i'm betting on with number one overall or sorry with the number one overall quarterback spot so um jets going jail mill row here at number seven all right so number eight the pan, all three of the quarterbacks that I think are going to go in the first round or off the board. That's not in play here.

I'm taking Mason Graham. They get a premier interior defensive lineman. They've been Derek Brown there. Yeah. They're obviously Derek Brown out for the season. The run defense has been awful this year. Now you got two beefy game records on the interior Mason Graham all day. I love a good, I love a good beefy game record. Beefy game wreckers on the interior mason graham all day i love a good i love a good beefy game record beefy game wrecker uh mason graham got off to a little bit of a slow start uh earlier

this season but now he's you know he's on fire he's one of the best players in college football and i think he continues to deserve that recognition dallas cowboys here at number nine uh action gent is here so i think this is kind of an obvious but you know defensive tackle i think would definitely still be on the board you know mason graham you're definitely talking about that um i don't really think a linebacker is really going to threaten any sort of pick in the top 10 so i wouldn't say that but defensive line's a big deal if abdul carter makes it uh even nick squarton from texas a&m i think are certainly options there for them but i i hate to pick a super easy pick but it really is i mean ashton Gentry is about to rush for a damn near FBS record,

especially when it comes to efficiency stuff. You know, I was thinking about this. Before I put Ashton Gentry comfortably in my top five, because now he's in my top five. He's my number four overall player. Before I put him in the top five, because positional value does go into my big boards a little bit and it should you know for some people it weighs a lot more than others but

to me it matters and I think that I think that I should go into a big award a little bit so running backs obviously there's sort of a conversation talk about value the other day I was looking at bashing jenty stats and I'm somebody who has bet on travis hunter to win heisman so i have you know some skin in the game for travis hunter to win heisman so i basically every single week obviously i'm checking travis hunter stats and i'm watching his games i'm checking ashen chanti stats i'm watching his game the other day i couldn't catch the other week i couldn't catch the boise state game connor and i go to Ash and JT stats that was a fun game and he had I think 180 yards and three touchdowns and I went okay that's not that good

because of what he's done I know I know it feels that way already this season I said 180 yards three touchdowns and I went thank, it's not that many. That's what we're talking about and how talented this dude is. Dallas Cowboys, number nine overall. They got to pick him. I think the Cowboys fans are probably going to be mad at me. I don't care. I can't wait for him in the NFL.

It's going to be so much fun. He is just so awesome. So awesome. Number 10, the New Orleans Saints. I mean, you can go offensive line here. I'm not. Offensive line's playing a lot better, though. They are playing a lot better.

Yeah. I know Penning has looked better in the run game. I know pass pro is still not perfect exercise for him. I'm going to look on the defensive side of the ball here. I would too. Trenches. Yeah. I think I like Nick Skeratin in this spot.

He's a bigger edge that you can move up and down the line of scrimmage. I think he he feels like he was another one of those guys that had a little bit of a slow start. But he the tape doesn't lie with him. I mean, you could see the ability to be sound against the run, obviously rush the passer with strength, which is what you're going to have to do at the NFL level. I like this fit. The Saints need to just be better on both sides of the ball in the trenches, and this feels like a safe pick to me.

No, I like this pick as well. He feels like a saints type of a dude um heavy hands yeah i mean it's a sturdy game up front cam jordan replacement type of a player it's actually not that's not that far off at all right we did the fixing the saints exercise word like they got to find ways to free up money and the thing is like i i feel like squarton's not winning as much of a finesse pass rusher as he did last year but i still think that's in his toolbox we saw it at produce absolutely you know that's all there for him so yeah i like i like him as the pick there at number 10 cincinnati bangles at number 11 cincinnati bangles are kind of

in a lot of ways um offensive line defensive line mason graham's the dream pick for them but obviously didn't make it to them here at number 11 i think they'd love like an abdul carter um they'd love a nick squarton um you know jaylen walker from georgia i think could be an option for them as an edge rusher if you're playing him as a full-time edge i'm gonna go offensive line though okay again yeah i i think their go offensive line though. Okay. Again. Yeah. I think their interior offensive line is, is, is not good.

Um, just watching this past game against the chargers and the chargers got good defensive line. I understand, but, um, Alex Kappa, uh,

Ted Karras, um, Cordell Volson, like guys, those guys had a rough night and those guys are struggling. I feel like they've struggled all year. They have Orlando Brown jr. At the left tackle spot. year. They have Orlando Brown Jr. at the left tackle spot. They've got a Marius Mims at the right tackle spot.

I'm going to draft Will Campbell and I'm going to pull a Philadelphia Eagles here. Yeah, I know where you're going. And I'm going to play Will Campbell at one of the guard spots. And whenever an offensive tackle spot opens up, whether it be by injury or contract expiring or whatever it is, you're very comfortable sliding Campbell out there, so you're really getting ahead of it. I'm going to go Will Campbell, who I still think is offensive tackle one in this class just because of how solid he is. He's somebody who I've heard in the NFL, they like him more as an interior offensive lineman,

but I feel like he can still play tackle. I still think he can still play tackle, though. I'm drafting him to be a guard. If you need him to cook out the tackle, I think that he certainly can for the Bengals. Bengals get Will Campbell there at 11. A really nice plan. Obviously, that

defensive line needs to get a lot better next year, but you can't just invent an answer in this spot. I didn't see an answer for you at 11. Right. Maybe if they win a few more games, which I think they are going to, and they pick closer to 20 or, you know, 17, whatever. Maybe it's a Kenneth Grant conversation, but not at not at 11.

So the Dolphins at 12. Speaking of another team that I think is going to win more games and find themselves out of the spot. Yeah. I mean, the Dolphins always need offensive line help across the board you know candleland played well right tackle uh austin jackson obviously they have a right tackle aaron broomer's been playing well they i guess they i mean they drafted patrick paul to replace toronto armstead whenever he retires so right i i i don't love their offensive line,

but at least it's playing well enough to where you don't have to take offensive line. Yeah. My thought is kind of what you just did with the Bengals. I'm going to take Kelvin Banks here. I'm going to play him at guard, and I'm going to have potentially a long-term answer at one of the tackle spots.

Okay. All right. And it'll be interesting to see you know they obviously like smaller more athletic offensive linemen at times so it'll see if banks is their type but in this scenario i the talent matches up with a need and the guy that i think could play inside and outside yeah i i don't hate it for him being still on the board too so right you're getting kelvin banks at 12 in a draft that quite frankly I don't love the first round of this draft, and I think that's a big win for the Dolphins.

I mean, before I click Kelvin Banks, Jalen Walker maybe for this team? Maybe. Jalen Phillips obviously is coming off his second season ending major injury. Bradley Chubb still coming back from that injury. Chop Robinson is playing well. He's playing a lot better lately. I agree. I agree.

But, you know, it's Anthony Walker Jr. It's Jordan Brooke. You know, it's just an idea. You still like Banks, though? I do. My argument against that is I can find a hybrid front seven guy on day two. I'm not finding a Kelvin Banks on day two. That's just my my stance

in this scenario all right well you know one man's trash another man's treasure buccaneers up on the clock at number three is the trash in this scenario are you called jalen walker trash you didn't want it yeah you said you said he stunk he couldn't play undraftable undraftable even seventh rounder wouldn't even take a flyer on him I do like him a lot better at edge than off ball. And I'd pick him at edge here for the Buccaneers. I mean, he is just, his reps at edge rusher are, they're nasty, man. And they play him at off ball linebacker still,

because that was sort of their plan this year, because he's so athletic, he's so powerful. They want him to be able to rush the pocket in a lot of different ways. But the Buccaneers need need a big-time edge rusher opposite yaya diaby and uh even diaby's kind of he wins with this athleticism and his power i know that walker kind of does the same but those would be two dogs on the edges for them and then obviously you got vita vea and collide jacanthi in the middle i think that that would be a powerful athletic tough offensive line to stay

in front of more often than you don't throughout the course of a football game. So Buccaneers, they're really going to need edge this year. And I think that they're going to have their eyes set on one of these guys here picking somewhere between 10 and 20 is what I'm guessing. So Jalen Walker, Shamar Stewart, also from Texas A&M, I think is in that conversation. I like Mikel Williams, but is he enough of a pass rusher for them that they would take him at that spot? I'm not so sure, but Jalen Walker is somebody who can win consistently off the edge with really good athleticism,

so I'll pick him at 13 for the Bucs. All right, the offensive line run is going to keep going here. I mean, the Bears really need interior help in my opinion in the spot so it's kind of the same playbook of getting you know and it's going to be a story with this class guys that play tackle can they play guard i'm really torn on this spot though because ariante ursery built like a real tackle built like a brick shith. He is just a mammoth of a human. Built like a runaway train. When that dude gets moving.

Yeah, he's dense. The wild card of it all is probably Cam Williams on Texas. Because he's got all the traits in the world. Yeah. But a little bit more raw. I think for the Bears, I'm going to go with Ursary in this spot. It kind of depends just what they want to run. Like they want to be more right own team and who knows actually with their offensive situation we don't know what their identity desires are yeah right now so i'm gonna

take the guy that i like the talent i like the makeup i like the traits the size moves well at that size and i think the bears might find themselves playing a little bit of, you know, O-line Tetris shuffling guys around. But at the end of the day, this is a unit that needs a better five across the board and they have to take the best offensive lineman on the board, in my opinion. All right. So Ariante Ursary going off the board here at number 14,

just got invited to the senior bowl, by the way. So we are going to get to see him in Mobile. Accepted invite, huh? Yes, yes, yeah. That's a big one. Yeah, you said invited. That's a big one. Accepted invite, yeah.

No, quite literally, quite literally a big one. All right. Colts on the board. Chandler Jones has been up and down this year. Sam walmack's been a little up and down this year but at least they've had moments where they have played well so i want to certainly give them their credit for that they draft layout to law to in the first round of last year who i obviously like uh jaylen carlisle is playing well for them as a safety plane at the linebacker level now yeah i'm actually gonna take malachi Starks here. I had a feeling.

Yeah, I mean, too good to kind of get past this point, number 15. And even though, like, Julian Blackman, Nick Cross, it's not the worst safety duo in the NFL. I want to make sure that I say that. Like, those guys are fine. But Malachi Starks, I think, is special. Like, I think that he can change how you play back-end defense because of how good he is as a safety.

He can play single high. He can play in the box. He can play in the slot. He's got great ball skills to him. So this is just a true upgrade, a true playmaker on the back end that I think would make a big difference for their defense. So I'm going Starks, the safety from Georgia. Probably the only safety that we're going to even get in the conversation

of being in the first round this year uh is malachi starks and so let's see who is my next graded safety actually i want to figure this out it's got to be pretty far it's got to be notre dame's um no so i have i have kamari ramsey and then it's a big it's sort of like a log jam like if you want to take sebastian castro out and say that he is a uh that he's kind of like more of a slot corner than a safety. I've got Kamari Ramsey from USC ranked at 51. I've got Kevin Winston Jr. at 54. Then I got Latham Ransom at 74. And then I got Xavier Watts at 81.

Xavier Watts is like a true playmaker type of a dude. Yeah, I like Watts a lot. Watts is a lot of fun. He was in my top five safeties before the season started. And he's still like right there. Like he's that i think could absolutely be a a second round type of a pick i don't think he's going to be a first round pick i think malachi is going to be the only one that's that but anyways colts 15 malachi starts so seattle on the board here and their needs are pretty known on the interior of the offensive line i mean i would imagine they're

going to be looking for an upgrade from lakin Tomlinson at least at left guard. Yeah, and then what their tackle situation's like long-term with Abe Lucas, missing all those games. He's missed a lot of time at right tackle. I think in this spot, this is where I'm going to take a Cam Williams. And I know he's a little raw, but it's all there for him to be a big-time player. And when you look at Cam Williams right now, you can kind of go into the season and say, okay, well, he's played the whole year at right tackle. If we have injury problems with Abe Lucas again, this guy could play right tackle for us.

But also with his density and profile, can he be an upgrade right away at one of the guard spots for us at 335 pounds? He's this year's Amarius Mims, right? He is. Like, traits-y. Yes. Wow reps. Super long arms. Yep.

Got all the tools that you would want to play offensive tackle. If he declares, which is not a lock, he's going to go. And look at the exercise we keep doing. We're like, oh, this team needs O-line. like oh this team needs a line oh this team needs a line yeah seattle that's why i like troy fatano for them a lot and a lot of mock drafts last year i thought they needed kind of that swing guy that can start a guard for them and if he doesn't think he's going around one you're right i think he goes back yeah because there's just you know the the world is his in that scenario maybe he goes over to the left side when Kelvin leaves.

Right. And Arch is there. Sark's still going to be there. A good program. Right. Yeah. But honestly, dude, I mean, when you're built like he is and you have the flashes he has.

Right. If you have an opportunity to go first round, you go first round. It happens to offensive linemen. So, yeah. All right. So, Cam Williams going to the Seattle Seahawks there at number 16. Before we get to the next pick, I've got to tell you that this show is sponsored by our friends over at BetterHelp.

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I mean, how good is Jared Verse? Jared Verse, Byron Young, Braden Fisk, Kobe Turner. Powerful and explosive looking group. Those dudes are playing very very well and they do they deserve their kudos their cornerback you know cam kinshaw's also having a couple of really nice games here so shout out to cam kinshaw yes he is we had as a top three safety going into last year and then it just was not the same season for him in Miami. And you know what? You know what's funny? I'll shout out Josh Newton as well,

who is playing for the Cincinnati Bengals now at corner. He had a really nice game this past week, albeit in a loss against the Los Angeles Chargers. His name came up a lot. I love Josh Newton. I think I had him CB5 last year of summer scouting. And I was a big fan. And then he just, they opened the season against Colorado. Travis Hunter kind of got the better of him.

And then it was just downhill from there with Josh Nunez. And I was like, man, I really like this player. I thought he had some juice. And cornerback is so hard to predict projections from college to the NFL because it's almost impossible to correctly understand just the cyclical nature of corner right is it right when you're starting at the college level you're you're normally only starting for what two three years max so you're going through these seasons and you say to yourself like all right well what's what's the difference between him just not being very good and him just going through a down season as a corner?

It's tough to tell. It is a tough position to evaluate. Safety is kind of the same way as we saw with Cam Kinchens, but just wanted to shout out those two guys who are playing well after some down years in their last year of college football. So shout out to them. Rams could use a corner here. I like Benjamin Morrison.

I feel like he's not getting enough love. Well, it's what happens when you get hurt. I mean, I like Trey Amos, too, from Ole Miss. I don't think I'd take him. I'm not going to take him here at 17, but he is a to me. He is like a fringe first round talent. He reminds me so much of Terry on Arnold with interesting, with like the size, the speed, the man-to-man coverage ability, the stickiness. He's got a ton of plays on the ball. He, I,

I do like Trey Amos. I can't wait to get his full scouting report out to you guys. Cause over the last, I would say six weeks, five, six weeks, he's been playing some really, really good football. I will take Benjamin Morrison though. I just think he's the better corner. Obviously I haven't ranked higher.

I haven't been in the top 20. I think this is an appropriate spot for him and the Rams need to get better at cornerback. All right. Morrison at 17, a summer scouting darling that has lost his season to a hip injury. So his medic, his medicals, his medicals will be a a really

really big deal but if everything goes well for him i mean the dude can play like he's he's an excellent gritty scrappy sticky corner san francisco 49ers at 18 man are they interesting what is this team going to look like in 2025? Are they going to move on from Debo? You got IU coming off a season-ending injury. Ricky Pearsall and Jawan Jennings have stepped up. This offensive line, I think, just needs more talent, honestly, is what it feels like to me.

McKibbitz has played better since we did the team needs here for the MDX. He has. Pooney seems like a good find. Oh, Pooney's been great. Yeah. Yeah. I know he really started off the season well. Obviously, they paid Trent.

This is a weird one, right? D-line, all of a sudden, I think is a pretty big need for this team. They need a number two and an interior player. Yeah. He's got like 85 injuries. Dude, I mean, they couldn't defend they can't defend the run this year i know this team's bottom 20 in the nfl in terms of run defense i know it's that's why i kind of am looking at kenneth grant in this spot yeah kenneth grants

graded out he's graded out really well against the run this year he's a large human being at about 340 pounds he moves much better than his weight would indicate. This is going to be Kenneth Grant. This is the kind of player that this front is missing right now. I would agree. I think this is a really good pick for them. A guy that could two gap, but also be athletic enough to do the,

a lot of the things in San Francisco likes firing off the ball. Surprisingly quick. Yeah. So Kenneth Grant for the Niners. All right. Kenneth Grant, Niners at 18. Denver Broncos. No, Kenneth Grant to the 49ers at 18.

19 now is the Denver Broncos. Offensive lines playing like one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Run games. Got a good stable of backs with Javante Williams and the podcast's own Audra Gastame. Luther Burden, I think, is going to be my pick here. My eyes lit up when I saw him there for the Broncos. Because the defensive line's playing really good.

I think the secondary's playing good. At all three levels, it's just stupid good. Yeah, they're playing really, really well. They are collective as a group, playing very, very well. Yeah, I'm taking a burden. I was having this conversation with somebody the other day because Bo Nix is playing so well. I mean, he's genuinely been one of the top 10 quarterbacks

in the NFL over the last four or five weeks. I know people might scoff at that. Honestly, he's thrown one turnover-worthy play in the last eight weeks. He has a top five quarterback grade over the last four weeks and his adjusted completion percentage is i think third amongst quarterbacks and that is while pushing the ball down the field people are going to be like oh you screen especially at atlanta please i'm begging you if that's your criticism of bo nicks get new material

please watch the tape i'm begging you he's good lol bo nicks memes i understand he's good yeah he had a tough first month of that is why people said that like against seattle it was 3.3 yards per attempt right then and a tough game against the steelers which will happen even against the bucks do six yards i hate it's changed it's changed when we don't give especially young quarterbacks the opportunity i agree friend oh yeah oh you weren't jayden daniels right off the bat you must be a bum yes thank you thank you we really appreciate it can you imagine where this team wouldn't be without corlin sutton i mean in all seriousness like i know i just kind of like gave bonick some some credit and everything but like they don't really have the way remember they traded jerry judy and remember

last year both of those guys were on the trade block? They cut Tim Patrick for no reason. It was basically like Corlin Sutton, Jerry Judy. And it was like, all right, well, who are we going to get the better deal for? Can you imagine if they would have kept Jerry Judy? This offense would probably stink. Yeah, although he went nuclear last weekend with Jameis. Well, you know, Jameis. I know, I know.

He was just going flame on. I didn't even want this to be a roast of Jerry Judy. But how well Corlin Sutton is playing. Where would this team be without him? He's one of the more underappreciated players in the NFL. He's certified good. I know he's been hurt at times. Yeah, Luther Burden, not as good of a year as we would have hoped that he would have had.

That's why you're getting him at 19. He was Luther Burden. You're getting. Yeah, he's not getting out of the top 10. He is a really talented football player, though. So top 10 or sorry, top 20. I think this is appropriate for him. Still getting him here at 19.

So Broncos going Luther Burden. Falcons at 20 who were just dreadful against the Broncos this weekend. And they cannot rush the passer, man. They now it's bleeding into the coverage. Yes. And coverage is also not great. You know what's interesting with them? Not to be this guy, because if things are different, they'd be different.

It sounds like you're that guy. If you take out Cousins two games against your Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Thank you. It looks a lot different. He's thrown eight touchdowns of his 17 against the Bucs. Eight. I think over 900 yards passing. Yep, you'd be correct.

He had 509 and... Love that! Love that! Love that! So, I'm obviously saying I'm thinking quarterback here. No, I'm just kidding. It's never funny and it never gets old. I'm really excited for the Pennix era, obviously, because I'm just a Pennix stan. Are we getting it this year? Are we getting it this year? getting it this year i don't think so no i don't think i think i think raheem will ride it out with

cousins but yeah you're probably right pass rush man they need it in the worst way they do you said it they really really do i this might be shamar stewart i mean don't hate it. He's in play. I think Shamar Stewart's very talented. He, and ran rounded out too, is what you like about Shamar. He's he's he, it's not like he's totally, it's not like he's void of bad plays,

but man, this is a former five-star recruit. One of the top recruiting recruits in the 2022 class. I mean, he is trajectory going upward yes trick made definitely going up six foot six 290 pounds i mean this dude can play he could play a 3-4 interior defensive lineman spot he could play it or sorry well one of those defensive end spots for you or he could play a 4-3 defensive end spot for you he gives you a ton of versatility i i think

the i i think this is a very talented edge rusher, Shemar Stewart from Texas A&M. Here's my other conflicting problem. When you look at the structure of the Falcons defense, there is part of me here that says, screw it on getting a rounded player. Just take James Pierce and let him play stand up. Because I get it shamar is probably the better football player like in terms of all three downs of the game but pierce is the more gifted

athletic pass rusher like get off the ball and go standing up i know people get mad at me for this because uh pierce is actually having a better year as a run defender um yeah i think it's a bit different though but his pass rushing is uh i think it's just still too speed specialized and i also i also don't think he's winning one on one a ton i think he's really talented like i wouldn't not i know i'm really conflicted here i am there are some people who think that James Pierce Jr. is still just like a top 10 player. I'm not there.

I'm just not there. I'm not. No, he's not. Neither are you here. Gracie shouting. Absolutely not. And you're not. Grace is getting into it.

Oh, man. Fired up. Yeah, I think I'm going to go Stewart here as much as there is. I just want to be clear. There's a real argument for Pierce, depending on how they view things schematically, because they are so different in these spots. Okay. All right.

We're going Shamar Stewart here for the Falcons at 26. Then they would have Brandon Dorlis, Shamar Stewart, Ruka Rororo, and Braylon Trice over the last two drafts. Somebody's got to hit. Yeah. And also, by the way, if i'm taking stewart who's a heavier player i'm gonna go to the free agent market and sign a pass rush specialist in that scenario as a stand-up guy that's my thought where like rather than drafting one in the first round you know what i mean yeah who's a free agent for them upcoming like is ebiketti a free agent or anything like that

it doesn't matter at this point for them like they they don't need to retain any anyone that hasn't gotten it done in that front uh no they're still around all right so it'll just be you know a lot of bodies you're figuring it out in camp you know let the best man win competition you know iron sharpens iron i'd go i'd go get aziz ojalari if i was them he's been a really nice player for the giants 63240 play standing up for you yeah that's that would be if i took stewart i would hope to sign someone like aziz so you take a sewer to 20 uh houston texans up the clock at number 21 oh Houston Texans up the clock at number 21. Oh!

Wyatt Milam, I'm playing McGard. I think that's what I'm doing. That makes the most sense to me. Wyatt Milam's having an unbelievable year. Plays an offensive tackle for the West Virginia Mountaineers. 90.9 overall grade. Now, as you can see, if you're watching this on YouTube, you see two basically just phenomenal grades all around 89.6 run blocking grade 89.8 zone blocking grade 79.5 gap grade true pass sets as a pass blocker at 91.3 grade now he's a little bit taller like he's six foot six so he'd definitely be a taller guard but

i love the idea of drafting him basically the same strategy that we've talked about for some of these other teams and just playing him at guard and then if you need him to swing out to tackle at any point in time boom there you go you got the guy you got the guy to be able to do it if you need him or and play right tackle i don't remember what titus howard's contract situation is or anything like that but i mean i know you drafted blake fisher as well like maybe blake Fisher could also be an interior offensive lineman, like depending on how much longer Shaq Mason's going to be with you. I'm going my own.

I'm going offensive line. I thought about, I thought about maybe trying to make a strength to strength somewhere else on the team, but nah, you gotta go offensive line. You gotta, you gotta protect CJ Stroud.

So if you watch the Texans, if you watch the Texans, man, but nah, you gotta go offensively. You gotta protect C.J. Stroud. If you watch the Texans, man, like they, yeah, this offensive line has been a really big disappointment. We're also recording this before Monday Night Football, so you know, if he gets absolutely destroyed by, well, he's not gonna get destroyed. Micah Parsons? Micah Parsons, maybe.

If they line him up over the Higa. Which they do. Alright, Milam at 21. Summer scouting darling of mine. Arizona at 22. What a fun season it's been for Arizona. They just need more talent on the defensive side of the ball. I think they're punching above their weight class with what they have,

but they just need more players up front, is how I would kind of look at this unit. There's a lot of talent on this board. I kind of want to take Treek williams in this spot and just totally line help totally beef up this front is how i would look at it here this is a definitely like i eat your vegetables kind of pick it's not sexy oh he's not he's not filling your stat sheet but man is he going to make you a better football team well instead of clicking his name to look at his stats i uh drafted him so now you have no choice i am taking him anyway i don't care okay all right there we go the only other guy i considered is uh savon revel who's another corner that's out for the year but i i like the way their

corners have been competing so and i like the depth of this corner class so i'm going to take ty leak baltimore ravens now on the clock at uh or no no sorry you got the baltimore ravens next i skipped over one washington commanders i got the commanders here at number 23 what a season it's been for washington This team has really turned things around pretty quickly. Man, their defensive line's playing better. Obviously, he just drafted Johnny Newton. He could go edge. Like a James Pierce Jr., I feel like, could maybe make sense for this team.

I don't hate that idea. Ah, corner, though. Mike Samuelsson's been playing great, but I'd like for them to have another outside corner that they traded for Lattimore. Oh yeah. You're right. They did trade for Lattimore. Yeah.

I'm glad you reminded me of that. Cause I, I, that totally went over my head that he was still there on the roster. Actually, let me pull it. Well, he hasn't,

he hasn't played yet. So that's probably why you went over your head. Right. Right. In the play line, the get Andrew Wiley, Sam Cosme, Tyler Biotta, Nick Allegretti, Brandon Coleman, obviously.

That group struggled. They played well, I think. Oh, you think that they struggled? I think they are well coached. I think they are outmatched when they go up against a Philadelphia that just has more talent than them. Oh, well, it didn't go well

for them in Philly. I think they need more talent, is my take. I well for them in Philly. I think they need more talent is my take. I think they are well coached. I think they are playing fine for who they are. But if I have Jaden Daniels as my franchise, I am beefing this unit up. Head dresser, Cleveland Farrell, Dante Fowler, Dorrance Armstrong, Frankie Lou Vu, Bobby Wagner,

Benjamin St. Juiced, Marshawn Lattimore, Mike Sane. They've got a lot of guys in the secondary I think they'd be okay with. They drafted very creatively in the secondary last year, which I did enjoy. Wide receiver. I mean, this is a team that we thought was maybe going to make a move for a wide receiver. It felt like they were in conversations for Brandon Ayuk. Oh, man.

Isaiah Bond would be fun for this team. Emeka Ibuka also would be good, but Bond gives them a different speed element. Yep. I kind of like that the most. Terry McLaurin and Isaiah Bond. I mean, Terry McLaurin and Emeka Ibuka would also be good, and I have Ibuka ranked higher than Isaiah Bond. Man, I'm torn on this one.

Do you have any leaning between these two wide receivers specifically? So here's my take. I like Ibuka better as a player. I like Bond better for the commanders, and I think it's close enough where I'd go Bond. I think so. Because they need someone to stretch the field, lighten the so the downhill run game with brian robinson is flowing jayden's run game mclaurin can win at all three levels i like bond's ability to kind of lengthen

the field for them i'm gonna i'm gonna veto you and myself here okay sure yeah fuck yeah fuck it go ahead take a brian hampton. Go ahead, Howard. See how tough you are now. Would you want to take a Marian Hampton? No. No, I'm actually going to take Colson Loveland. No, they just took Sinnott. Yeah, but that does not stop me from taking Colson Loveland.

That's fair. Because look at what the Buffalo Bills do with two tight end sets. You know, like, look at what the Buffalo Bills do with two tight end sets. Look at what the Philadelphia Eagles can do with two tight end sets. That's kind of the dream, right? Sure. The dream is to be able to go in that multiple personnel like that. So you got Loveland, then you can play Sennett, because Sennett can also play, dude, Sennett

can play fullback. H-back, yeah. He can play as a wingback on the same situations where you can have Colson Loveland playing as like an X-wide receiver for you. Sure. I'm going to take Colson Loveland here. I'm going to bet that you can get some speed at wide receiver elsewhere and that you can't get the fluid type of receiver at the tight end spot

with the size that Colson Loveland has. I know they drafted Luke McCaffrey as well, but again, I'm not letting Luke McCaffrey get in the way of me drafted Colson Loveland here at 23. So Loveland to the commanders at 23. So I have the Ravens at 24 and this, I don't know if this will surprise people, but the Ravens have one of the biggest pass funnel defenses I've ever seen. And what I mean by that is like, they're great against the run.

They get thrown at, at will most of the time. But I don't look at this group and go, they just have to have a first round corner no matter what. Like they took Nate Wiggins last year. They have Marlon Humphrey. They have Marcus Williams and Kyle Hamilton in their defensive backfield. This isn't some awful no-name bunch. I think they need more pass rush off the edge

to help these guys. That's the issue. Now, if you want to take a corner on day two, sure, I get that. But this team needs a legitimate pass rusher off the edge that wreaks havoc consistently. Go on. I am going to take Mike Green in this spot. Oh, you're doing it. He's been awesome. Your boy. You did get him in the first round. A lot of Ravens fans are like,

why wouldn't you just take Pierce in this spot? Watch Green against the run. And I know it's Marshall. I get it. People are like, well, yeah, let's see him do that in the SEC. Yes, Green has 15 sacks. He's being drafted in the first round in this spot because he knows how to get after the quarterback

with his athleticism and a lot of different ways to win. But I think he plays a tougher brand on three downs than he gets credit for. Watch him take on a pulling guard. Watch him set the edge. This, to me, is a Baltimore kind of player. I get it. People are going to think this is early.

Hey, this is your dude, though. And you said when we were talking about him on the last Stock Watch, you said, I think I might get Mike Green in the first round of the next mock draft that we have. So you like him at this spot. You got to stay under the convictions, man. You like your player. I like it.

I thought it was like maybe Lions at the end of the draft to get a partner for Aiden Hutchinson. but the the ravens have to have an edge and i i obviously i am higher on this guy than most i like this guy a lot and i'm very comfortable taking him here uh you know for a lot of people who might be watching and listening to this draft and thinking wow colson loving went 23 to the washington commanders that really stinks for jim harbaugh and the uh the los Los Angeles Chargers here picking at number 25. Really got sniped here.

Tyler Warren, baby. Let me reintroduce you. Yes. To the guy that Jim Harbaugh probably wants the most. Right. Exactly. Warren brings you more size at 6'6", 261. He gives you better blocking ability.

He can play in line. He's got an 89.9 overall grade, and that's from a 91.8 receiving grade. The run blocking grade, obviously, as you can see on the screen, if you're watching this, it is lower this year, but this guy can block, man. This guy can block. And I really think that Jim Harbaugh is going to lean into the top of this tight end class, especially if they're picking here in the mid-20s so Tyler Warren is exactly the type of player that they're going to want so Warren to the Chargers here at 25 yeah Warren's awesome man he was my breakdown for NBC this week I the tape is insane 6-6 tight end that runs catches and throws touchdowns while also you know putting the

hard hat on in the run game i saw that run blocking great and i'm like let me watch this for myself and he still has some wow moments wow moments where he embarrasses dudes that's a fun one i love the fit probably my favorite fit we've done in this entire mock i get to see harbaugh just like punching him in the chest before the game oh 100 like okay justin herbert okay tyler warren let's get let's get going him and will disley and then and then tyler's gonna punch him in the face yes and actually knock out his coach although harbaugh would wake up at halftime yeah but then somebody somebody's just gonna you know like smack him or throw some cold water smelling salt harbaugh is gonna be like good hit good hit yep good hit smelling salt for coach harbaugh is packers at 26 oh this is why you wanted the odds interesting yeah yeah you my friend have team never team never pick for the

packers you have put on a master class of out thinking me and i respect that you're like oh the jets and bucks are odds i kind of want the jets and bucks and i'm like yeah you know what you should take the jets and bucks no actually i did want to talk about the jets and i'm sitting here for the stupid ass very good green bay packers if you're new to listening the show which i know we get a lot of new listeners on the mock draft the running theme of the show is picking for the packers is like being in the figure four lock um but with that being said, we tap every time. Every time.

Every time. I don't even go for the rope break anymore. I just instantly go out. Yeah, just tap. Just get me out of here. Take the belt. So the Packers, man. Really interesting roster

because it's a good one. I like their two rookies at safety and nickel and Evan Williams and Javon bullard i think they've played really well this year yep as it often goes to green bay i don't always really love their first round picks and i don't think they've gotten enough out of lucas van ness this year but you know he's a guy that's still a work in progress they are a team that they just have a wide cast of characters at wide receiver and it works like the between dobbs

christian watson jayden reed don tavius wicks it does work but would you like the surefire guy is that kind of what you're alluding to correct abuka's abuka's fascinating here i like a boob here yeah he's he's and this just screams like that pick that Packers fans are like, you're insane. Like, whatever. It's early. We could be insane for now. I agree with you.

Yeah. This is a good roster where you can go a little. And also, by the way, I mean, they're going to be approaching free agency with some, like Christian Watson. Is he on an expiring next year? I guess he is. For you?

Yes, he is. All right. Obviously, Jaden Reed was drafted very recently. I like Ibuka, too. I feel like he gives you a constant. And the only thing you have to wonder is, for the Packers, they go, do we have to play Ibuka in the slot? And what does that do for Jaden Reed?

No. You think he can play outside? Yes. Then you take him. If you're going to sit here and say, oh, Jaden Reed and Emeka Ibuka can't be on the field together, I think you're totally wrong. I think you're totally wrong.

No, I agree. That's very dumb. Yeah, I'm going to take Ibuka here, and I'm very curious the reaction. I know their offensive line has had some problems this year. A lot of it's healthy. They haven't gotten anything out of Jordan Morgan because he's been hurt. I was going to say, yeah, but the tackles are good.

Elton Jenkins is good. Jordan Morgan's a rookie. I think they're good. You're not investing another first rounder in the offensive line in this spot. So, yeah, let's take a Buka. This is the fun pick, and I it gives jordan love a number one kind of like him and reed and once again i don't think they're gonna pay christian watson so i'm thinking of that too um peter brick stealer's up at number 27

i could use a wide receiver i mean i think this could definitely be in oh man what was that they draft the shit out of Elkayo Maynard. But they never take a first-round wide receiver. Man, they would draft the crap out of him. Yeah, he's definitely their type. Traded for Mike Williams. Have George Pickens. Like, they have a type.

And Mike Williams, obviously, on an expiring deal. El Guyamator could block his butt off. Oh, man. I was all ready to take Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from Ohio State, because Dan Moore Jr. is a free agent that's pending after this season, and Broderick Jones has really struggled. He's been in hell this year. I just think they just are anti-round one wide receiver.

It's like a tale as old as time. It's like the Eagles or linebackers. I mean, they have Fatanu. They have Mason McCormick. They have Zach Frazier. James Daniels is playing well, but he's a free agent. So I guess they don't need, because they have Faltani, so they're not going to take an offensive lineman.

Yeah, I'm going to El Gami Manor. All right, go off, Ken. That's their dude. They're going to balls. They will love him, yes. Contested catch guy, can play on the line of scrimmage. Has that kind of strength. Has the track background to still be able to stretch the field.

Can block his butt off for you. He is a Steelers type of player. Io Maynard to the Steelers at 27. All right. The Vikings are on the clock here. Obviously a very interesting team for a lot of reasons. They could look a little different next year. Assuming the McCarthy era starts. I still think this team needs a corner.

You know, Gilmore is older. They do need some help in the secondary. I'm going to take Savon Revell, who I really like a lot. I know he's hurt. He's going to be back for next year. He's explosive. He's a playmaker. I think now it's going to be really fascinating

to see if they lose some of the staff to coaching hirings, but that's a combo for deeper into mock drafts. But in this scheme, I like Revell. I like his aggressiveness is what I'm trying to say. Like Flores bringing a lot of pressure looks and allowing the corners to make some big plays off of those pressure looks. I would be excited about this landing spot. Yeah, I mean, he is an extremely high ceiling corner.

Yes. The size, the athletic ability, it's all there for him. I still think he plays a little out of control still. Sure, he's kind of street balling out there at times. He is. He's going to have to get his technique down at the nfl level but man this is the type of corner that you love that excites me though like seeing a guy that is a legitimate 6-2 explosive with ball skills and you're telling me he just needs to tighten up some things, but he's as gifted. That's the kind of guy I'd rather bet on in this spot.

You're telling me I'm fried this rice. Eagles are up at number 29. Isaiah Bond. I'm going to take Isaiah Bond. Wow, you are a madman. Where else do I go with this team? Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts. They have the tight end.

They have two tight ends in Grant Calcaterra and Dallas Goddard. They have Lane Johnson and Jordan Mailata, who if Lane Johnson leaves, they have Fred Johnson, who they played tackle before. They have Makai Beckton. Now they have Tyler Steen behind him. They've got Trevor Keegan, who they drafted last year from Michigan. You're right.

They've got Jurgens and Landon Dickerson. They've got their three interior defensive linemen. The two linebackers, Zach Bond and Kobeen, are playing like studs right now. They have Bryce Huff. They have Josh Swett. They have Nolan Smith Jr. And then in the corner room, they've got Darius Slade. They've got Cooper DeGene.

They've got Quinion Mitchell. They've got Reed Blankenship. And they've got C.J. Gardner-Johnson. Plus, they just drafted Sidney Brown right behind them. So he's sort of the guy in waiting there. And they have Keely Ringo and Eli Rex behind the two corners on the outside. Take Isaiah Bond.

I feel you. Make Isaiah Bond your wide receiver three with A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith and prosper. I mean, this roster is sick. It is so unbelievably impressive what Howie Roseman has done for the Philadelphia Eagles over the last, what, almost 10 years now? I can't remember when he took over at GM.

But this shit's a master class, man. Every area where you would not only want a stud, but also somebody in waiting, they have it. Isaiah Bond, wide receiver three. It's a fun one. I'm all about fun here. I'm all about fun here. I'm all about fun. They are.

You enlightened me to just how stupid their roster is. I opened the phone. The only thing I will raise a point is, and I'm clicking on Bond on my screen, is Sweat's a free agent after this year. So maybe they add another pass rusher. So they'll draft Michael Williams. Yeah, so kind of saying.

Well, in this position, I think they'd probably take James Fierce Jr. Right. He's definitely their type. All right, the Bills on the clock. Huge win against the Chiefs for Buffalo. Man, the Bills, another good roster, well-coached team. Part of me likes TJ Sanders in this spot I love TJ Sanders yeah I mean you don't get to tell me about TJ Sanders I think they need I think the underrated player I think

they need another body up front I know and their linebackers since Matt Milano has got hurt I played well to their credit you could argue you could upgrade at safety if you want to mar hamlin and more of a depth role uh i don't love the safeties on the board right here yeah i'm gonna take man michael williams would be a lot of fun too james pierce jr is still here yeah yeah i know i was thinking a little beefier for them honestly yeah that's fair fine. Yeah, that's fair. That's why I brought up Sanders. I know they have Rousseau. Epinesa's still there. Yeah, and next to Ed Oliver, I'm going with TJ Sanders.

Let's bring the beef a little bit here. Okay. All right. TJ Sanders, South Carolina, somebody who I'm a big fan of. I think he's got great explosiveness, really fast, violent hands, somebody that can win from the three technique spot. So TJ. Check out the 86.6 grade against true pass sets.

That's like, that's one of those underlying numbers where it's like, oh, he's when he gets real rush opportunities, he's winning them. He's getting after it. He's getting after it. I like TJ Sanders. Kansas City Chiefs on the clock at number 31. I don't hate Josh Simmons in this spot. The offensive tackle from Ohio State.

I think that makes a ton of sense. I understand that they drafted Kingsley Suamataia, but he has struggled. Wanya Morris, obviously, has been going back and forth. If Suamataia, they would actually like Kingsley to be the player who plays that spot, but he hasn't been good enough. So that's why Wanya's been out there.

The interior offensive line's obviously great, but there's a chance that they lose Trey Smith this offseason. I don't know if they're going to let him out. Big Bell's going to get paid. He's going to get paid, and if it's not going to be in Kansas City, it's going to be somewhere else. Wide receiver, we could talk about it, but they've got DeAndre Hopkins now. They have Xavier Worthy.

Rasheed Rice will obviously come back from injury. Quinshawn Juggins is hilarious but i i don't think i'll go that way now pacheco would be fine right but i know but quinch on and pacheco in the same backfield is just like who do you want to get punched in the face by it is it is a lot of fun to like think about man they could i i would not mind Jaday Barron for this team. I was just going to say Jaday Barron because, you know, they get hit with a couple injuries at corner and it's like, oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, let's go Jaday Barron. Jaday Barron deserves to go in the first round of this mock draft.

Cornerback from Texas. Played a lot of slot safety stuff over the last couple of years. Now he's playing on the outside. I think he's tied in the SEC with interceptions for this season so uh today's just playing really good ball and and you mentioned it wow an elite overall grade this year um and an elite 91.9 coverage grade so today's obviously doing a really good job somebody who i was a big fan of going into last year's draft class i thought he was going to declare he did not and obviously it's uh proven out to be a good decision for him so today baron 31 to the Chiefs.

All right, the Lions at 32. We're going James Pierce Jr. Yeah, yeah. I knew it was coming. Knew it was coming. I'm not going to lie. I thought about Walter Nolan and LT Overton and Landon Jackson. I did.

But, man, Prince Lee, Umami Allen also as well. Right. Just a twitched up edge. Jack Sawyer will be, you know, a Dan Campbell guy really responsible on all three downs. But let's go with the ceiling of the pass rush here. And that's what James Pierce Jr. Him and Aiden Hutchinson wreaking havoc off the edge.

Ooh, this football team's awesome. And it just feels like when things are going right, they're really going right. They have a great player fall into their lap at 32. All right. To recap it for the people who are audio only and those who are watching, obviously you can see this on the screen here at Jacksonville at number one, they took Travis Hunter. Number two, the Tennessee Titans took Abdul Carter, the edge rusher from Penn State.

Number three, the Cleveland Browns took quarterback Cam Ward from Miami. Four, Raiders took Shadur Sanders, the quarterback from Colorado. Five, the Giants did not take a quarterback, took Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan. Tetra O. McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona, goes six to the Patriots. Jalen Milrow, the quarterback from Alabama, goes to the New York Jets at number seven. Mason Graham, defensive tackle from Michigan,

going to the Panthers. Setting up a hell of an interior duo there for them. Ashton Gentry, the halfback from Boise State, going to the Dallas Cowboys at nine. Right in the stars, baby. Nick Scowerton, Nick Scorton, I should say. That's how you say his last name. Got to get good at that.

Texas A&M, edge rusher going to the Saints at number 10. Will Campbell, the tackle, slash guard from LSU, going to the Bengals at number 11. Kelvin Banks Jr., the tackle from Texas, going to the Miami Dolphins at 12. Jalen Walker, the edge rusher, linebacker, edge rusher from Georgia, going to the Buccaneers at 13. Ariante Ursary, the offensive tackle from Minnesota,

going to the Bears at number 14. Malachi Stark, safety from Georgia, going to the Colts at 15. Cameronary, the offensive tackle from Minnesota, going to the Bears at number 14, Malachi Stark, safety from Georgia, going to the Colts at 15, Cameron Williams, the offensive tackle from Texas, going to the Seahawks at 16, Benjamin Morris in the corner from Notre Dame, going to the Rams at 17, Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle from Michigan, going to the Niners at 18, Luther Burden III, wide receiver from Missouri, going to the Broncos at 19, Shamar Stewart, edge rusher A&M, going to the Atlanta Falcons at 20, Wyatt Milam playing tackle

or guard for the Houston Texans there at number 21, Tylee Williams the defensive tackle from Ohio State to the Cardinals at 22, Colson Loveland the tight end from Michigan going to Washington at number 23 Mike Green, the edge rusher from Marshall getting in on the first round to the Baltimore Ravens at 24, Tyler Warren

tight end, Penn State. Chargers at 25. The Mechig Buka wide receiver. Ohio State Packers 26. Elkayo Maynard wide receiver. Stanford going to the Steelers at 27. Siobhan Ravel going to the Minnesota Vikings at 28. Isaiah Bond wide receiver.

Texas Eagles at 29. TJ Sanders defensive tackle. South Carolina going to the Bills at 30. Jadae Barron, the cornerback from Texas going to the Kansas City Chiefs at 31, and then James Pierce Jr., the edge rusher from Tennessee going to the Lions at 32. We would love to hear from you guys as well. Any of the players that we talked about here, either going to your favorite team or any of the other landing spots

or some of the players that maybe did not get drafted in the first round here, we would love to hear your thoughts on them as well. If you think that somebody would have been worthy of a first round selection, we would love to hear any thoughts on them as well if you think that somebody would have been worthy of a first round selection we would love to hear any and all of your thoughts here on this first first round mock draft here for the 2025 nfl draft best way to do that youtube.com backslash nfl stock exchange while you're there if you could like the video and subscribe to the channel we would absolutely love you for that really helps us out and helps us make a better content for you guys honestly because we say it all the time it's podcast to

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