NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 297. FIRST 2025 MOCK DRAFT AFTER WEEK 18

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you the first 2025 mock draft with the solidified draft order for the non-playoff teams. With more than half the order set and some new teams needs, they start to formulate draft strategies for each team in round one.

Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama, that's Connor Rogers, here to pay some bills. The bill is steep. It's the first one here of 2025, but oh buddy, we got our Christmas bonuses in, and we are paying it. It is the first mock draft with the solidified draft order for the non-playoff teams. Oh, it's truly a beautiful day, Connor. I can't wait, man. I did a written mock draft for PFF over at pff.com, but it felt like that was the appetizer because going back and forth here with you with the solidified order for these non-playoff teams, this is where the fun of draft season and for the fun of the addicts of NFL LSE really starts.

So how are you doing, my friend? I'm good, man. The draft order being solidified at the top is like comfort food when you're somebody in Trevor and I's shoes. It's just you can copy and paste it onto a doc. You know, every mock draft you write for the rest of the year is going. Starting with that, every mock draft you record, you start to just move puzzle pieces around. But it's a lot of the same names at the top.

It's a good feeling, man. I mean, as you guys saw with our scenario show last week, you're done playing out the 90 different win and loss scenarios. Pretty crazy. Came all the way down to Sunday Night Football. Yeah. The Jets and Panthers had draft stakes on the line between the winner of Lions and Vikings so yeah not only that remember we did that whole show last week about the draft order and we were like oh yeah it's paramount the Patriots get the number one overall pick well

got news for you they're're picking fourth. Insane. The Joe Milner is here. Obviously, we're going to trade Joe Milton here on this show. No, but. For the third overall pick in the draft of the Giants. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because very comparable. Very worth it from what we saw from Joe Milton there with the Patriots.

But there's a ton to get to. And like you said, this is where you really start to get to formulate draft plans. Because we do mock drafts during the season. I to do them the people love them you love to do them as well it's a lot of introducing things right here's what it could kind of look like if this team picks around this spot okay here are some players that are playing well in college football but when you really solidify the order it's January. We know a lot of the guys that are in the class because they've declared or haven't declared. The soft date is like right now, but it's weird because they have to extend it a little bit because of the college football playoff. And there's an insane wild card, by the way, sitting in the college football playoff.

Are you saying Drew Aller? Yeah, dude. Right. Everybody's looking around like, uh, he declares he can go from number one to like you just it's insane well you don't want to i don't want to go on too much of a tangent we won't we obviously like gotta gotta get the mock draft rolling but um the thing with aller is penn state's quarterback drew aller for anybody that doesn't know who we're talking about he has a ton of potential to be like a first round type of a quarterback maybe even even QB one in this draft class,

which if you're QB one, you got a chance to go in the top 10, top five, whatever, even if it's down quarterback class. In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King. As Matthew Berry says to me every day of the year for three years in a row.

What a saying it is. It is gold. I can't get enough of it. It's perfect. It's, it's really apt for this scenario right now. They say that Matthew Barry is the Amik Robertson of fantasy football analysts for Amik Robertson saying they tried to bury me,

but you can't bury what comes from the dirt. That's what I felt like when you just said that right there. I thought you were Shakespeare. No, I had to give credit to my guy, dude. It's an amazing saying. It's great when your elders pass down something special to you. Shout out to Matthew Berry. But yes, so with Drew Aller, the thing that's really interesting about it is I think he's playing well enough to where he could declare in this class and he could be considered a first-round quarterback.

I really do, given his potential. Not that he's playing, like, perfect football football but you guys know what i'm saying the issue is because of how late college football season runs now and because of when the transfer portal opens up penn state has already lost their backup quarterback right he's gone bo pabula i believe is his name he he's already transferred and here's the kicker. He didn't want to. I know. It's so dumb, the rule. He wanted to go to Penn State. He wanted to be a Penn State quarterback.

But he transferred. He's like one of those backup guys that gets in games. But he transferred because the transfer window was open and because James Franklin probably told him, hey, Drew is thinking that he's going to come back. So if you want to go and start somewhere next year, we understand. If Drew Aller now declares, they have nothing. He is screwing over Penn State.

So I actually don't think that he's going to declare. He wins a natty? I guess. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. I hope my jacket isn't making too much noise. It's not.

I don't hear a peep, but I do have a question for you. Yeah, go ahead. So obviously I see you're in the lovely Cincinnati recording space of Pro Football Focus. This is true. How are we doing? As a man that just came in and shoveled all two inches of snow off my driveway.

Dude. Didn't take very long. How are you doing out there? There's like two feet of snow in cincinnati right now it's like a foot and a half two feet it's crazy is that the most snow you've ever seen in your life uh no because uh humble brag my family would sometimes take trips to lake tahoe when i was growing up so you know yeah i know good powder yeah so so we we've done that whole thing uh enjoy uh i enjoy shreddingding the fresh powder as a snowboarder.

Would you snowboarder or skier? I think we've talked about this before. I used to do both when I was a kid. Reluctantly, I have to get back into it. It's been literally years. I have not done either in so long. I actually surf more recently than ski or snowboard. Yes, I'm a man of the water more than the snow.

All right. The snow is just a minor inconvenience. So anyways, if I seem like I'm like cracked out on this episode, I have been in this office since 7.30 a.m. because I had to get here before the second like wave of snowstorms came in. There are no food establishments open in the greater cincinnati area because of all the snow this year so at the pff headquarters let me tell you what i've had to eat today i have had four count them four bags of snack beef jerky okay i have had two protein bars a quest protein bar and an rx protein bar nice i have had two bags of pretzels, of like snack pretzels.

And I have had two bags of baked Lay's original potato chips. Very delicious. That has been my entire palate for meals today. Your macros are just hanging on for dear life. I've been tracking them, dear life i've been tracking them baby i've been tracking them and you know what we're not doing too bad we're not doing too bad please for the love of god don't look at my sodium for the day yeah it's a minor you know hurdle and all of this that's like when i eat chipotle a couple times a week it's one of those

weeks where it's like ah i was working here and I had to run somewhere quick or... We're cranking it up. And I'm like, man, I'm getting all this protein. Double chicken, the car loft is forklift. And you're like, yeah, I've also had eight pounds of salt throughout my body in 24 hours. Good.

Again, we're cranking it up. That's what we need to do. Speaking of cranking it up. Pause. Maybe. A little bit. Let's throw in the mock draft simulator. Here we go.

It is the fully unlocked, reordered, solidified Mock Draft Simulator over at PFF.com as we begin our Mock Draft journey here for the 2025 NFL Draft. As you can see, the Tennessee Titans, Titans fans, hello, welcome. You're picking number one overall. We got the Browns here at number two, the Giants at number three, the Patriots at four, Jags at five, Raidersiders at six you mentioned a little bit of something on the line there until sunday night football jets end up picking seven carolina panthers are at eight saints at nine chicago bears are at 10 and obviously we will go through the rest of the order as well

so we're going to select all the teams here uh jets got an odd number here at number seven. Bucks got an odd number because, well, it's just another year, baby. It's just another year on top of the NFC South. Boy, did Todd Bowles really do his best to make it interesting. Holy cow. At least he got Mike Evans' 1,000 yards. That's all I care about. That's a buzzer. Respect.

Truly all I care about. So here we go. What do you want to pick, odds or evens? Do you want to kick this thing off, or what do you want to do? Oh, man. Sure, I'll take the odds, but I'm going to phone you in during the Bucs. That's fine. That's fine.

By the way, for everybody who uses the PFF Mock Draft Simulator, we recently added the Your Picks tab here on the right, so you don't have to scroll all the way up and down to see your picks now. That is there. I understand it was long overdue. Everybody calm down. We've been working real hard. But I know. here on the right so you don't have to scroll all the way up and down to see your picks now that is there i understand it was long overdue everybody calm down we've been broke real hard but i know it's it's great to have it in there uh and uh that's just something that you can enjoy now as a mock draft simulator user all right let's start this bad boy all right so we got the titans and you're on the clock at number one so So let's just have the combo at the top.

This is a draft that the first three teams picking all need quarterbacks. I think this is a draft that there are a lot of varying opinions on the quarterbacks, but most of the consensus is that traditionally this isn't the class where you'd quarterbacks talent wise go one and two, but the need is just so high. I do think Cam Ward can win games at the NFL level and make plays. And you look at the Callahan's in Tennessee, their ability to develop run games, what Bill's done for a really long time, what head coach Brian Callahan, his son wants to do. It didn't really work with Will Levis this year.

No. I don't see a lot of answers on the pro market, especially since it's hard to find anyone that thinks, nobody thinks Sam Darnold's getting out of Minnesota anymore. My favorite destination for a long time for Darnold, when you look at, hey, he probably doesn't want to go back to New York. Who should kind of open up the checkbook? I thought Tennessee was a great idea. I don't think he that door opens anymore so now if J.J. McCarthy becomes available and it doesn't cost me a first round pick and this is a whole nother deeper combo that

changes and then maybe you could take Travis Hunter here but I'm gonna go Cam Ward here Trevor because he's my top quarterback in this draft. He's got traits. He's obviously won in a lot of places. The playmaking ability, I think he's got a better arm than Shador, and it gives the Titans a mobility element in their offense under center as well. Yeah, it's hard, right? I mean, we're in a quarterback class that I think everybody out there,

as they sort of dive into it a little bit more, would tell you, hey, maybe we don't even have a first-round grade on a quarterback class that I think everybody out there is, as they sort of dive into it a little bit more would tell you, Hey, maybe we don't even have a first round grade on a quarterback. When you and I went through the quarterback episode, we said that we don't, we don't have a first round grade on any of these quarterbacks. But the fact of the matter is that until free agency comes around and until we know that teams have other options than what it looks like right now with week 18, wrapping up, it's, we would feel like it would be disingenuous

to not go through this exercise, even with them going really high in the draft. So when you look at the Tennessee Titans, hey, what is the main reason why they struggled this season? Quarterback play. They had the worst team passing grade of any team in the NFL this year. And I know when we did the Tennessee Titans episode,

there were some people, there were some Titans fans who we went back and forth with a little bit, who were like, hey, we didn't think that in the episode you were giving enough credit to Will Levis, like he's somebody who could still win in this league. And look, I do think that Will Levis has the talent level to start at the NFL level, but I don't think you can run into next year with him. I didn't think that when we went through the fixture franchise episode, and I certainly don't think that now. I think that they've got to make a change one way or another. So I agree with you, Cam Ward, going number one overall. This is what I would have done as well.

Yeah, listen, it's fascinating when you look at the beginning of this draft because to me it's three regimes that you know it got laid early like rand carthon has to get a quarterback eventually in tennessee the browns after the watson disaster they got to figure that out and that's a little bit more of a unique situation the giants with joe shane and brian dable back in the fold they they got to take a quarterback. There's no world where Joe Shane and Brian Dable bring back Drew Locke and, hey, we'll try to develop Carson Beck in round four. It's not really an option for these people that have legitimate employment implications on the line.

Joe Mildon, obviously an option now. Joe Mildon, conditional one. Conditional one, of course. Conditional one. Right, right, right. Of course, it's. Conditional one, of course. Conditional one. Right, right, right. Of course, it's just a matter of like, all right, well, if he wins two Super Bowls, then you get the one back. Five back handspring touchdown celebrations.

If he wins three Super Bowls, then you only get a second back. It's obviously like those things will be built into the deal. So Cleveland's picking now at number two, which is a very interesting and deep conversation, which we won't have the whole, we won't have enough time to dig into all the layers here with Cleveland. But essentially they're in a situation where if you thought Tennessee's quarterback situation was bad, I think Cleveland's is worse. Certainly Jameis gave them some entertaining games there for a stretch,

but with him being hurt very clearly Dorian Thompson Robinson's not a starting quarterback in this league Bailey Zappi we didn't really think that he was but he sort of showed in week 18 that he is not either recently Andrew Barry came out and said that Deshaun Watson has suffered a setback with his Achilles injury and his recovery for 2025 and so there's no guarantee that he is even going to be fully healthy to start the 2025 season and even if he was fully healthy you gotta think that there's got to be some other options here either they're signing a vet they're you know they're trying to do maybe what indianapolis has done over the last couple of years you just go get a vet i mean you know and aaron rogers

a kirk cousins like somebody like that. Maybe like Joe Flacco. I know he's been there, but, you know, that's what sort of we're talking about here with these veteran quarterbacks. But ultimately, this decision comes down to, do you think that a quarterback is worth number two overall? Because I think that the Cleveland Browns have some issues in particular along their offensive line beyond just quarterback being bad. Now, it doesn't matter until you get the quarterback,

but do you think that that quarterback is in this class? And essentially for this conversation, you're saying, is it Shadur Sanders? Do you believe in Shadur Sanders enough? I think the issue at hand here is just, what does Stefanski want to do with the pro market, right? Does Stefanski look at this as a situation that, hey, we're waiting to clear Des or Cousins, which is a bold choice if you do that way. There's no guarantee.

Kirk Cousins didn't look like himself this year. Flacco is just getting older and wasn't great for the Colts. But then do you bet the house on a guy that, like I'll say it, and we'll have the combo, I i'm sure with more other picks too in different mock drafts i it just depends what you value i should do or is not we had this combo a million times and people don't react great to this like he is not the physical profile you typically see with quarterbacks drafted in the top three to five picks typically right like what did everybody everybody that's complained about tua right people were like well it's not really typically a guy that you like when you look

at the quarterbacks drafted around like herbert being taken after him and there's times where you could be right but there's definitely times where you could be wrong i this is going to be really difficult to figure out in my opinion i i don't know if the it sounds crazy to say and there's miles garrett implications here too, because he's a guy that's been vocal. Like I'm not sticking around for another rebuild. I want to win next year. Right, right.

And if you're drafting a rookie quarterback, like do you consider that a rebuild? I actually like, it's crazy. Now there are some issues which you do right away, like holding the ball, taking the sacks. That's another big issue is that for this team, I said this like the line cleveland is not a plug and play rookie quarterback away now obviously a great rookie

quarterback can change a lot of things but shadur has already really struggled with pocket management and taking a lot of sacks yeah cleveland's offensive line was bad last year yeah they're gonna need new offensive tackles it feels like joel batonio might retire so you've basically got wyatt teller and ethan posick and that's it i mean like dewan jones i mean had some nice flashes but i don't i don't think he's a long-term starting caliber offensive tackle jedrick will's gonna get hit free agent they're gonna let him walk yeah this never really worked in my opinion this is the trade down team Now that the Patriots aren't picking it. Number one, I could see it, but I don't, I don't want to do a trade at number two in the first mock draft that we're

doing with the order, but in future mocks, I think I'm going to have Cleveland typically trade down here because until we get an answer, otherwise I feel like that's the way that they should go. So, you know, I think I'm going to pick offensive line. Okay. Not Travis Hunter. I think, I mean, Hunter is the other choice, right? I mean, like, that's where I go back and forth.

Do you just stay true to the board and you just go with the best player available? Because he's so talented. Because he's just so damn talented. And they could use a corner. He could play corner opposite Denzel Ward. Yeah. And then he could also play wide receiver for you right and you already traded amari cooper and you know judy had a lot of promising signs down the stretch and before cedric tillman had the concussion but like travis hunter can i think he could be a bona fide number one if he wants to be where judy i would like to be more of a high-end number two.

And hey, if you just think he's a great corner, which that's helpful for them as well. This is a tricky one because I just think talent triumphs the needs, which I know is not an easy situation you're in. He's the best player in the draft. Yeah, I'm going to stick to the board. I'll go Travis Hunter too. I'm picking Hunter too.

So you're up at three. So it puts me in a peculiar spot because I kind of just went on this like, listen, I don't love Shador Sanders as a number one or number two overall pick in the draft. But when we do these mocks, a lot of times we're also trying to figure out what's going to happen.

I just can't see the Giants not taking him here. It's just, they are, it goes back to what I said. Like, Trevor, these guys got to get a quarterback, and they don't have the time anymore. They almost ran out of time this year. I think that decision came down to the wire for John Mara. And I don't know, as a Giants fan, if you want a regime operating that way.

And I think Brian Dable can do some really good things with quarterbacks that could play. And Shador, I think there's a floor with him as a prospect. And I obviously think this is not a location. I don't think Dion would have a problem with him going there. It's the New York Giants there. I know it's been really bad for a long time, but there was prestige with this organization.

So I'm going to have them take Shador Sanders here. Get to throw to Malik. You have neighbors there. Hopefully Andrew Thomas can get healthy, but like you got to start worrying about his injuries. I think when healthy, the line was better. Tyrone Tracy, I think is a capable running back in this league. He's shown it's yeah.

The relationship with Malik already. I just can't see them passing on shador here what like what are they gonna do if they don't take a quarterback yeah no the the only other realistic examples that i feel like we have here is you know if you can get sam donald to come to new york which i don't know if he would want to right after everything that he was through i personally don't i don't think so i don't i don't think so um the only other one that i could think of is geno like do you trade for geno smith i have a question for you because this has come up a lot what is seattle's answer if they move on from geno look man i think geno is good like i i'm i i think a lot of Seahawks fans do not like him.

A lot of Seahawks fans want Geno Smith gone. And I think Geno Smith's a damn good quarterback. I do. Well, we've seen it. Do I think he's like tier one? No. But can he win for you in this league? Yes.

If Seattle and, you know, listen, I can't pretend to have watched or read every single um coaching presser that we've seen here on monday but mike mcdaniel was sort of like asked about gino and he's like i'm paraphrasing here but he was essentially like yeah i mean i've got no reason to think that gino wouldn't be here. So, yeah, yeah, I guess, yeah, he's our starting quarterback. And it's like, whoa, what are we doing here? So, Geno is my other answer there. But outside of that, yeah, it's basically just you're hoping for Shadurah Cam.

Or Drew Allen. I'll say this right now. If I'm the Giants and I can get Gino and keep my third overall pick, I'm doing that every time. Yeah, 100%. And then I'll figure out quarterback in another class. That's a no-brainer. But here's the other kicker.

I'm also doing that if I'm the Tennessee Titans. Yes. Yeah. I think there's a lot of teams. No okay i'm not i think if i'm the titans i i would rather take cam and try to develop him okay because i like cam so i get the stance and i also think i like the idea of of callahan and how he runs his offense with cam ward um and with the giants it's we i mean we've set up a really strange reality here because john mara basically said that he's got no patience left he's barely got any patience

presser was a heater today yeah he's basically like yeah these guys stink the defense is bad the roster's worse than it ever has been uh brian dable should probably give up play calling um but i'm keeping them i better be in a better mood this time next year yeah and he's and it's like what why are you why are you keeping them then what are you they didn't want to they didn't want to restart it's as simple as that the reason well I talked about this a little bit earlier today. Here's why I actually think they might have kept both Dable and Shane. Without having the number one overall pick now,

you're in a little bit of an unknown. You don't hold your own destiny when it comes to any quarterback you would possibly want or any maneuvering of the NFL draft that you would possibly want. And if you were to have a head coach opening, you are now going in with not the number one overall pick, the number three overall pick, and you have to go against the Chicago Bears who already have Caleb Williams, the New England Patriots who already have Drake May, and the Jacksonville Jaguars, who already have Trevor Lawrence. And you're competing against all three of those head coach openings with teams that already have franchise caliber talent quarterbacks.

And the Giants don't have one, and also don't control their own destiny in that regard without the number one overall pick. So I wonder if the Giants got the number one overall pick if they actually would have moved on from both. Because the job would have been more alluring. It's an interesting point. I don't know the answer.

Just a thought. Yeah, because that means they would have lost the Colts. And they would have went. I was about to say. The opposite of undefeated, obviously, at home. Which is historic. Which is defeated. Defeated.

I really almost said it. What's the opposite of undefeated obviously at home which is historic which is defeated defeated i really almost said it what's the opposite of undefeated defeated defeated the new york giants defeated at home this year oh and nine or whatever it is oh god that's good yeah it's man what a weird spot they're in all right so you're taking shooter yeah i think that's what they would do here. I think that we're setting up a lot of fun future realities with exploring tradebacks with the Browns, different quarterbacks with the Giants. The Patriots are on the clock at No. 4. Man, I think they have a couple of different options here.

The three that stand out to me are trench players, even for as much as I would love for them to get Tetra O. McMillan, and perhaps Tet would be on the board here for them. But Connor, this was the worst offensive line in the NFL by a lot. Well, I shouldn't say a lot. Seattle was giving them a run for their money there for a little bit. But they drafted two guys in Leighton Robinson and Caden Wallace last year. I'm not convinced that those guys are long-term starters for you. I thought they were overdrafted by the Patriots last year. I would love to be proven wrong because it will mean that Drake Mays got a lot more opportunity to play really well and be healthy. Abdul Carter, Will Campbell, Kelvin Banks Jr. So those are the three that I think about with the Patriots here at number four with Travis Hunter off the board.

I, I think that Carter's the better talent, right? Like that'll be, that'll be pretty common sentiment. And I think they have a good chunk of money that they can try to invest a good amount on the offensive line this year they have a unbelievable amount of money the problem with the patriots is real talk they haven't been able to find people to take it lately like that's very true they wanted brandon iuk

for a lot of money true yeah now don't get me wrong i'm not saying the patriots for agency is hopeless I'm just saying like I I do think I've come to I don't it's not that I don't value cap space right but because cap space matters a lot I think we overvalue teams that have this ability to go into free agency and and have a spending bonanza now the Patriots it's better to have it because you need it you have a spending bonanza. Now, the Patriots, it's better to have it because you need it. You have a lot of holes. But free agency signings, just the way they depreciate so quickly after one year,

it's just a proven not sustainable practice, I think. I'm going to go Carter. He's, I think, the higher talent of Will Campbell and Kelvin Mecks Jr. I agree. Both offensive tackles. Carter just, he is. He's phenomenal. To me, he's the best of the best in this class when it comes to edge rushers.

The bend, the flexibility, the first step explosiveness, the physicality that he plays with, the dip and rip move. I mean, it's it's it's all pro caliber at a really impactful level so let's go with Abdul Carter uh let's let's this is a team if I if I'm gonna sit here and say that the Patriots have the least talented roster in the NFL I can't just say oh well they need this so bad they've got a pigeonhole themselves into taking this position take the better player so I'm going to give him abdul carter for yeah you start stacking up bpas and all of a sudden you look and you go oh damn our roster looks a lot better yeah rather than kind of tic-tac-y picks carter's tape he's just gotten so much better trevor since moving to like

you look at what he's done since moving to edge, and it's genuinely impressive. The trajectory he's on is, I think, pretty special. Yep. All right, so Abdul Carter at four. I really like that pick. I don't see enough of it. Jacksonville at five. Get used to it, buddy.

I get to sit in the Trent Baalke chair today. How lucky am I? Oh, brother. Who has more lives, Chris Greer or Trent Baalke chair today. How lucky am I? Oh, brother. Who has more lives, Chris Greer or Trent Baalke? Connor, I don't understand this, man. I mean, how are we doing this? Everyone fixed the Jags, and you were like, so, Connor, you look at this roster.

What's the number one thing? And I was like, we have to move on from Trent bulky. We have to do something different here. Okay. So the bulky stuff is nuts to me. It's insane. Why would you hamstring yourself? For look,

you, you know, the, the two head coaching candidates that you probably want the most, Ben Johnson, Mike Vrabel. They're going to want GM control. They are very picky human beings and good for them. Absolutely.

And not only are you retaining a general manager, so you're not giving them the opportunity to bring in the guy that they want to work alongside as general manager, you're retaining a very particular general manager. One that often zigs when the rest of the league is zagging, right? Yeah. If I'm going to make this, like, the specific Ben Johnson example here is,

okay, last week we heard the report, I'm sorry, I wish I could be citing this better, I don't remember who was on the radio giving this take in this report, that they were talking to Mark Brunel, and Mark Brunel was kind of like saying like, oh, like Ben Johnson like wants the Jags job. Like he wants to work with Trevor Lawrence.

Like he wants the Jags job. And that was like a week ago. Ben Johnson is also, his people, his circle, whatever, has like gotten it out there that he wants to have some sort of input on who the general manager is. Like he is going to be, like you said, very particular in what job that he takes. And that flexibility and that continuity with the general manager goes into it. Trent Baalke is the GM that picked Trayvon Walker over Aiden Hutchinson.

Where does Aiden Hutchinson play? The place that Ben Johnson's coming from. Why would he want to go work for the general manager that way overthought Trayvon Walker, who is a solid player, by the way. I don't want to get into this whole debate. Aiden Hutchinson is better. And Ben Johnson has been a benefactor of it. He has seen it.

So why in the world would he go work for that general manager? I just, it is mind-numbing to me that the Jags would do this. And it is a, you know what? I think the answer to your question is still Trent Baalke. Because since 2012, since Shad Khan bought the team, he's hired two general managers. Connor, since 2012, the Jags have won more than five games four times. It's insane. They've hired two general managers in that span and one of them was promoted

from within because bulky was the director of player personnel before he got the gm job when they fired codwell they've had one double digit winning season since then they've had four seasons where they have won above five games and they won't make a change so it's nuts anyways please fix them here give them something give jacks fans something to smile about yes please please it's just it's an owner that is you know everybody loves him he's a patient nice guy but at some point it's just too much loyalty and i agree with you, Trevor. The Jags would have been one of the most desirable spots in the NFL if they wiped the slate clean.

I think they really could have got whoever they wanted if Balky was gone. You got Trevor Lawrence. You got him under a long contract. You're in the state of Florida. Like, man, it's just crazy to me. Yeah, and it's a place that the pressure is different. The media pressure is different. The owner pressure is different.

It's better. It's a healthier lifestyle. So, but now you have Trent Baalke there who just outlives every coach. So it's not that good. At five though, let's give him something to smile about. And I'll take a page out of your playbook. I read your mock draft,

which everybody should go do at pff.com. I think I like Mason Graham here. I look at Mason Graham. Yeah, I agree with you. Their interior defensive line needs a piece. Trayvon Walker and obviously Josh Allen have. Let me make sure I Josh Hines. Allen don't want to get that wrong have been

really good up front for this team but you put Mason Graham in the middle and I feel like it gives your team an absolute no-nonsense identity up front on the defensive line and it's one of the best players in the draft I mean I could sit here and go yeah Will Johnson might be a big need at corner I know the secondary was brutal it's a little early for a safety for me, but Malachi Starks would really help. They've had really bad play at safety this year. Yeah. But I just value the talent here.

To me, it's just the talent for Mason Graham, and it's not like they don't need a D tackle. And also, I've grown to like the depth of this secondary class, by the way, the more I study it, where, hey, you might be able to get a helpful corner and safety on day two of the draft. Well, that's a great way to sort of like usher in our discussion with the las vegas raiders because when you look at the raiders yeah of course i think they need a quarterback um i think they need a bona fide number one wide receiver so we can talk about

tetsuro mcmillan here for sure but you know they've got tyree wilson they've got max crosby they've got uh christian wilkins they have uh divine diablo they've got Max Crosby, they've got Christian Wilkins, they have Divine Diablo, they've got Malcolm Kuntz. These are players that are impactful for them. I can't remember which ones are free agent. I can't remember if Kuntz... I think Diablo's a free agent, but you can bring him back. The big issue with the Raiders is secondary. Their secondary's been terrible. They were dead last in the NFL in total coverage grade as a team. Their cornerbacks just were straight up not good enough this year. So I look at corner here at number six, specifically Will Johnson from Michigan.

And even though he's been beat up this year, I mean, he has had some really good tape, really going back to his freshman year in 2022, as you can see there by the grades. But Connor, I wonder if this is an Asha Jente spot here at six. Oh, man. I don't think it can be. I know it's a little early. Yeah, a little bit, partner. But the dude's a stud,

and if you actually look at what was probably holding the Raiders offense back the most this year, I'm not saying that they're not going to make any changes to quarterback. But if they had a competent run game, they've got a good offensive line. I think their offense changes pretty quickly. And you just mentioned you like the depth of this cornerback class. I do. I struggle with the sincere McCormick erasure.

I'm thinking about it. You're thinking about it. You're what? The what erasure? Sincere McCormick erasure. I'm thinking about it. You're thinking about it? You're what? The what erasure? Sincere McCormick erasure. Brother, all due respect, of course. All due respect. Hey, this is your pick.

Just sweating. just sweating i kind of want to do it yeah you i could tell if you want to do it this is your mock draft don't let anybody get in your way yeah you're right ashen genti number six overall i'm doing it look at these grades people the kid's nuts. Desmond Ritter hands the ball to Ashton Gentry for the 38th time today. Yeah, and guess what happens? He broke eight tackles for a nine-yard gain, setting up second and short. You're welcome, Raiders fans. Oh, man.

I'm taking Ashton Gentry at number six. Gentry at six, one of the best players in the draft. The New York Jets on the clock at seven. Stay true to the talent. Jets on the clock at seven stay true to the talent Jets on the clock at seven man this was one where I really was just going to follow how the best players come off the board I thought there was a chance Abdul Carter would make it here he didn't Mason Graham I really didn't think would make it here I'm going to go with Ted McMillan in this spot. With the thought that the Jets era of Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams is over. Okay.

All right. Obviously, this is a very fluid one. If there was a world where Rodgers... Go ahead. I was just going to say, you said... I didn't mean to cut you off, but you said... Last time I asked you this question was, I think, a week ago. you said there was a one percent chance that aaron rogers was back yeah do we think it's still one or do we think it's like five six yeah like seven like four all right

all right we got all right we get an extra three percent little three percent his tone the last week of the season started to sound like a man retiring, which is very interesting. He did. He did. But the only thing I'll say is why it is at 4% is this is the lowest supply of a quarterback offseason I've ever seen, where it's, you know, with the draft, if Allard's not in it, you talk about Cam Ward and Shadur at the top, that's it. With free agency, you don't even have Darnold to hang on anymore, which everybody thought for a while.

We can't sit here and tell you Geno's going to be traded. So you're looking at what's left of Kirk Cousins, if the Titans traded Will Levis, Justin Fields. So if a coach comes in and is like, man, I don't want to be a loser while trying to get this thing right. I want to try to be competitive while building it my way. Maybe you talk Rodgers into, hey, give us one more year. We'll see what we could do if you still have it in you.

That's why I put it at 4%, which would change this pick. If Rodgers is back, Devontae is back. There's a very, very small chance if Rodgers is gone that Devontae's back. I mean, very small. I think Devontae would want to test free agency and go to a contender in that situation, which if Rodgers is gone, he wouldn't see the Jets as that, and they'd have to figure out all the contract stuff. So say the slate's a little clean with Rodgers and Devontae,

I'd go Tett McMillan, and now you have Garrett Wilson and Tett McMillan that complement each other perfectly. You have a six foot five jump ball red zone beast across from incredible route runner, silky smooth. This is the modern day way you build a wide receiver group. Like you look at T. Higgins and Jamar Chase, Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson. You look at all these great wide receiver duos because of the way the air attack is. And the good news for the Jets is, because a lot of people will be like,

what about offensive line? The Jets, when Olu started over Tyron Smith, when Tyron got hurt, their offensive line looked really good, where it's going to be Olu, John Simpson, Joe Tippman, Elijah Vera Tucker. You got to bring back Morgan Moses for right tackle and you have to draft somebody on day two to develop behind him.

But this is the first year in a long time, Trevor, that I sit here and go, God, the Jets offensive line's a disaster. They have to draft the best player available. They're not in that spot right here. That combo opens up on day two. So, yeah, this is a BPA approach for me, and I think Tett McMillan is the best player on the board. And I did have a thought of Malachi Starks or like a Jalen Walker,

but I like Tett better in this spot. Yeah, Jalen Walker, who recently, officially declared for the 2025 NFL Draft, as did his teammate Michael Walker, or Michael Williams, excuse me. That puts the Panthers up at number eight. Sort of a worst case scenario here for the Panthers. Yeah, it's kind of stinks for them. Sorry, Panthers fans.

I mean, Abdul Carter's off the board. Mason Graham's off the board. Tetrell McMillan is off the board. Obviously, Travis Hunter is off the board. I think they, I mean, they need pass rush. Which edge rushers we got here? Who's next? It's Jalen Walker.

Nick Skortner, Jalen Walkerer um oh yeah technically he's his list is an off-ball linebacker because georgia um wanted to frustrate the crap out of me all season long yeah nick squarton or jalen walker i think they probably go jalen walker even with him being a little bit undersized he's he's just such an explosive powerful edge rusher um really disruptive this year as you can see passers grade 83.4 that was his highest of uh of his career he played off ball linebacker it's why he's listed as a linebacker here but is his bread and butter is going to be as a pass rusher i think i'll probably go jaylen walker here i think that makes the most sense for the panthers who just really need to get better up front no matter what.

I don't think there's a defense tackle I'm forgetting that would tempt me here. No, I mean, I like Kenneth Grant, but I'm taking Jalen Walker over Kenneth Grant. So, yeah, let's go Walker here for the Panthers today. I'm a big Walker fan. His tape, when you watch the pass or snaps, there's a lot there that screams top 10 pick to me. Yeah. Nine, the Saints.

Man, this is a team that it's going to be nice to have clarity on them when we're mock drafting for them in April. You know, what's the future for Derek Carr? It was good to see Chris Alave practicing the last week of the season that he'll be ready to roll next year after such a brutal injury year. They need offensive line help. I would take Will Campbell here, Trevor. Okay.

I wondered if you were going to do it. I was sitting here thinking that Will Campbell could have been the option for me at 10. Yeah. I'm going to take Will Campbell here. What I like about, I think Campbell's best home in the NFL, the more I study him, is on the inside. Because when you look at his losses playing tackle,

it's a lot of length related issues but he is competitive as hell plays with good leverage i like the way he plays with his base i mean if if i had a left side of the offensive line that's talisa fuanga and will and Will Campbell, I feel phenomenal about that for the future. Yep. I think it's hard to argue that. Have you heard him speak yet? Will Campbell? Yeah.

Yeah, I saw the clip that was going around the other day. And yeah, he just sounds incredibly well put together, really understands just what it takes to be a good offensive lineman at the NFL level, just the mentality. And it makes sense with how steady his play is, how he approaches the game. So I like this. Going Will Campbell here. I honestly, I would have picked Will Campbell for the Bears here at No. 10,

but instead I will give them Kelvin Banks Jr. from Texas, who a little bit of a different conversation than it is with Will Campbell. Sometimes you worry about, it is the length that you were talking about with Will Campbell, but sometimes it's the foot speed and the athleticism paired with the length that makes it tough for him to really protect that outside shoulder. Kelvon Maggs Jr., I think he's even smaller than Will Campbell, but he's got a little bit longer arms. His arms are longer. He's more athletic. But I do think that he could still be seen as a guard by some teams in the NFL.

And with Matt Pryor and with Coleman Shelton for the bears, both upcoming free agents and with Tevin Jenkins, a free agent as well. And just going through a ton of injury history. I like the offensive tackle options that they have with Darnell, right? Certainly at the right tackle spot. And then,

all right, what are you doing with Braxton Jones? Maybe you're rolling with him for another year. You're playing Kelvin Banks in one of those guard spots. And if Braxton Jones does not play well, now you have an option where you can maybe flip-flop that, put Braxton Jones inside,

put Kelvin Banks on the outside. So to me, this gives them a lot of versatility along the offensive line to really help an area of need for them. So I'll go Kelvin Banks Jr., the Texas offensive tackle

for the Bears at 10. All right, Banks, a favorite of mine. He goes to the Bears at 10. I like it. The Niners at 11. This is going to be the Will Johnson spot for me. Oh, good.

Yeah, nice. Yep. Actually, while we were recording, a little bit of a report dropped that Charverius Ward has said he might not return to the 49ers. It's not anything to do with his experience with the team. He just has personal trauma in the state of California. He lost his daughter this year. I send my best out to Traverius Ward. It's been a really trying year for him and his family.

I'm hoping for the best for them going forward. That's an awful thing to have to go through. Like all things in this industry, there is a football side of this that we have to discuss and um that football side of it is that the 49ers you know will be looking for cornerback help too and charverius has been a great player for this organization and not an easy guy to replace if if that's the end of his tenure with the niners and it would take in my opinion a more of a premium selection like this to hopefully get that kind of impact yeah uh i mean if if the niners were able to get will johnson number 11 i mean that's a steal

of a player you're gonna discount an injury discount because he was hurt a lot of this yes yeah yeah because i think if he plays a full year i mean we're talking about this guy and we should be talking about him higher i mean he's ranked higher on my big board for a reason but um you know we're just looking at some quarterback options and pass rush options things like that and the board falls as it meant as it does and you know sometimes teams get to capitalize on that cowboys here at number 12 so their team needs we got linebacker we got defensive tackle. We got running back. I'm just looking something up real quick with the Cowboys. I think defensive line is probably where I'm going to go here. That's where my mind

continues to go. I look at offensive tackle as well. Wide receiver. I think those are some needs for them. Defensive tackle, I guess they have been needs for them. Sure. You know, defensive tackle, I guess they have been playing a little bit better. I wonder if a Luther Burden probably makes the most sense for them. Big time playmaker. If one of the other tackles were here, I think I might've thought about that as well.

You know what I'd ask you with Burden? And maybe this is a stupid question because if you have a good offensive play caller, they should be able to figure this thing out but all the ways they've used cd and maximize cd over the years don't you think that's how burden should be used at the next level totally i mean burden's sort of at his best when he's allowed to be a yards after catch guy but you know imagine having players where those roles are sort of intertwined a little bit and you know cd lamb and luther burton on the same offense gives you the ability to have two just top tier playmakers you don't know which guys you know staying short you don't know which

guy is going to go further down the field i kind of like this the more that i'm thinking about it i know when i first brought it up i was like i don't know and then when i thought about it. I know when I first brought it up, I was like, ah, I don't know. And then when I thought about it, I was like, hey, you can kind of go, you know, how Miami does things with Tyreek and Waddle a little bit. And there is a benefit to it. Number two wide receiver has been very, not problematic,

but frustrating at times in Dallas, I think. Yeah, I'm realizing just like looking at these team needs, we have some updated team needs that actually have to push on the MDS. So hopefully when you guys are using the MDS, these team needs are actually updated a little bit more because these are a little outdated.

Not that they're totally wrong, but we do need to update those. Nick Skorton or Luther Burden, those are the two that I'm debating between. I actually think I'm going to go Skorton. I thought that one made a lot of sense. Big end. Right. Demarcus Lawrence is the same player. And what an amazing longevity career he's had.

For sure. Absolutely. But you're right. It's got to end at some point, right? He played four games this year. Yeah. I'm going to go with Nick Sc Gordon to give them another edge rusher opposite Michael Parsons.

So, Gordon there, number 12. That puts you up with Miami at 13. I'm getting to play all the hits today. All the cats with nine lives. Trent Baalke at five. Now I'm Chris Greer at 13. I am unstoppable and unfireable here. So the Dolphins at 13, Tyreek Hill had an interesting postgame presser

after losing to the Jets and taking himself out of the game where he basically said, I'm available for business. I'm out of here. This is going to be a very interesting offseason for the Dolphins. They are keeping both Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer. I have thought for a long time, this team just has to be better on the offensive line. I think it's where it all starts for them. You want to keep Tua healthy. You want to be able to run the ball. I don't know how much

Teron Armstead's going to have in the tank. Yes, they drafted Patrick Paul to be the potential heir apparent, but they need more on this offensive line and they need better on this offensive line. Now the issue here, Trevor is the top two guys and we'll Campbell and Kelvin banks. That would be in play. They're off the board. I'll kind of phone you in here for a second.

Do you think Josh Simmons is a fit for them? Because the tape he did get to put out this year when playing. Yeah. Looked like a first round kind of guy yeah so i think that he is a fit for them especially because they just want to be athletic everywhere and i feel like josh simmons moves really well um i was talking with uh friend of the show kyle krabs about this and um he likes Malachi Starks as well if that uh is interesting to you because it doesn't feel like they're gonna bring back Javon Holland I've done that before

actually I think it was either the last mock we did or the only one I wrote for NBC this year I had them take Starks yeah so he is he like he has targeted Starks as a as a potential player here for the Dolphins in the middle of the first round. But I agree with you, man. The issues with the Dolphins completely stems around the fact that they have tried to get as close to the line as possible of how much can I, in a sense, deprioritize the offensive line

and just make up for it by getting the ball out to his hands very quickly to very athletic players who can make things happen when they get the ball in their hands. And they flirted with that line too much this year, in my opinion, and found themselves on the wrong end of it. So I won't hate an offensive line pick because I think Simmons can play for you at guard. I think he'd play for you at tackle. I think he'd play for you at tackle.

I'd certainly play him at tackle, especially with all the injuries that Teron Armstead has had. Yeah, I thought the, I know he had a season-ending knee injury. It's college, so we don't get official injury news on these things all the time. When we get to go to the combine and talk to people and stuff, you always find out. But I thought that- Are you talking about Simmons' injury? Yeah. And he tore his ACL. You think he tore his ACL?

That's what people have said, not to your point. I mean, when you hear season-ending knee injury in college, it's often that. Unfortunately. But the tape he got to put out through, I think it was seven games. Yeah, he got hurt in the sixth game, I believe. Sixth, yeah. Yeah, he got hurt.

He only played 23 snaps in that Oregon game. It was really good. It was really high end. So if he checks out medically, he warrants the top 15 selection here. So I'm going to take him. All right. Colts at 14. Chris Ballard.ris ballard alive and alive and well speaking of cats yeah chris ballard though i mean he's a

man that hits irontown like when you see chris ballard sometimes he does what hits irontown like that's a dude that that's a gm that lifts one of the rare gms that it's i didn't know if that was i didn't know if that was another folksy wisdom saying that you got from barry no no this is absolutely for me chris ballard is a proud member of irontown so him surviving yet again you kind of shrug and go like yeah he's built for this he's watched painting game i clearly clearly just an elite movie it's one of the best bad movies and i'm glad that i'm really glad that you and i align on this because i like if i bring this up to most people out in public they'd look at you and be like i've never seen that i have the clip ready to use at any point in time of Mark Wahlberg sitting in the office

and the guy like applying for the job. And the guy's like, how much do you bench? It's like 400. How much do you squat? More like five. And he's like, and then he just like stands up and like holds the handout for him to get the job. I love that.

I have that clip just ready for like any like coach gm something like that like it's like when when vrabel gets hired somewhere as head coach and then they inevitably hire the gm probably after that i'm going to tweet that clip and be like this is vrabel talking to the general manager about what they bring to the table vrabel he is the that dude that's still lifting at 4 a.m. at the facility. Yeah, 100%. He never went home. No.

We have two options here for the Indianapolis Colts. Well, I think we have one, but go on. Malachi Starks is one of them. That's fair. Although Julian Blackman has played well since being out on the field and being healthy, it's what gives me reservation about having to invest a topic into safety.

And the other pick is the one that, you know, we're fighting against. It's Tyler Warren. I'm not fighting against it at all from Penn state. Well, I'm fighting against it for, you know,

discussion sake, but sure. You know, the six foot six, 260 pound tight end, who is just a do it all player can succeed in line for you as a blocker attached to the line of scrimmage. He can also win big time as a detached wide tight end or slot tight end. 93.3 receiving grade this season.

An insane 2.76 yards per route run. Contested catch percentage was over 60%. I mean, this guy is just an absolute monster and everything that he could bring to the table the colts don't have to go tight end because the rest of their offense is i think good enough right but it basically comes down to in my opinion how do you view the rest of the corners outside of will johnson and i would tell you that you can get a starting caliber corner in this class in rounds two and potentially three but you can't get a tyler warren anywhere other than the middle of the first round no you

cannot so we're gonna go tyler warren here i love it the tight end for penn state i am a big fan of seeing that and i think colts fans love this pick well they should it's not what's not to love you just watch brock bowers break the rookie record apparently the tight ends are doing something right in college you got a lot of good ones who are coming through the tight end is back and better than ever the falcons at 15 michael pennix out here throwing missiles missiles pennix is now he's at the point where it's not shocking if you watch him in college but he is he is must watch tv because you might like fall asleep when he misses two in a row and then you're not going to fall asleep because you know the third one is going to be one of the best throws of the week.

He had seven big-time throws, Connor. That's what he was at Washington. Guy was an absolute flamethrower against the Panthers. Drake London woke up this morning and he's like, wow, I'm going to have 1,000 yards the rest of my life. Oh, yeah. No, he already took out a small loan for the money that he's going to make next year.

Cause it's guaranteed. Guaranteed. It's just guaranteed. He, he, he played, he played that game against the Panthers with Michael Penix and went, all right,

I'm buying the mansion. I'm good for the next contract. I'm good to go. Yep. 30 million. We're good. Wherever you want to live. We're good here.

Yeah. He, he,. Wherever you want to live. We're good here. Yeah. He moved next to Arthur Blank. He just moved right next to him. Hey, neighbor, how you doing? Built a house on top of his house. On stilts? Yeah, on stilts. Bought the land upwards.

So the good news is the Falcons quarterback selection looks awesome. The bad news is they needed more than 40 points to beat the Panthers because their defense has no answers right now jeez which Raheem Morris needs to find them that's part of his job but obviously Terry Fontenot needs to get some talent for this team as well now here's the funny thing here Trevor Malachi Starks is clearly the best defensive player on the board in this spot. But this team needs a pass rush, man. So badly.

We also say this literally every year at this point. Yeah. This is frustrating. I mean, I'm not even the biggest fan of this guy, but this is where Mikel Williams starts to come into play. I think so.

But, but I don't, he's not a pure pass rusher to me. You know who I take here? James Pierce. I'd take James Pierce. Yeah, I get it.

He's a pure pass rusher. He's a pure pass rusher. And he's the standup outside linebacker pass rusher, which Raheem Morris likes in the three, four scheme. Yep. I completely agree. James Pierce.

Now, I'd be jumping for joy if I could get a Jalen Walker, but I just don't think it's happening. So James Pierce, who, you know, classic case of a guy that as a freshman, oh man, two years from now, James Pierce, like that's going to be a number one overall pick. And then this summer, like, okay, James Pierce, pretty solid then this season all james pierce slow start and then you watch the tape you're like yeah james pierce pretty good prospect no he is he's a really good player it's all the time no all the time everybody's like oh two years i tell

you look out for this guy i like a dual carter better one pick i like a dual carter a lot better i think we did over the summer, honestly. It's not really like a, it's not really us, you know, waffling. Alright, you're going Pierce? I am going Pierce. Alright. James Pierce Jr. to the Atlanta Falcons. Give them some pass

rush there. Atlanta Falcons at 16, or sorry, the Arizona Cardinals at 16. Um, hmm. sorry uh the arizona cardinals at 16 um hmm well go on no i it's weird right that was some really bad podcasting by me i was like all right go on you gave me the floor because i kind of indicated i needed it yeah right yeah and then i really i really had nothing good to say i was gonna say buda baker is now extended but you could still take malachi starks it's not like you play one safety and buda no but play very differently i'm i'm a i'm a daydream taylor demerson believer

there there you go like i am this is not the most i'm a dtg believer and Taylor Demerson believer. There you go. I am a believer. This is not the most important position. I'm a DTD believer. It's not the most important position on the roster on defense of a defense that needs a lot right now. I know. I don't want to force them just taking Kenneth Grant, even though I think Kenneth Grant's a good football player.

How did they use Darius Robinson this year? Well, he was out for such a long time. I know, but where did they align him? I'll pull it up right now. That's the, that's, that's my big question here with,

uh, with does, how much does edge versus interior defensive line become like matter to them? Yeah. Okay. Darius Robinson.'s see uh snap positions okay he played most of his snaps at right end and left end he played some right defensive tackle yeah left defensive tackle. Decent amount. I mean, you know, 60, 53 snaps at D tackle.

So he is, all right. So, so for them, they run a, they run a three, four. So he is a hand in the dirt defensive end for them. So he's an interior defensive lineman for this team. So then they have Zayven Collins. They have Barron Browning. They have Julian Okwara. They have Xavier Thomas.

They got Roy Lopez, the legend. And they lost Ogilari for the year, which really stunk. Yeah, okay, so they still have Ogilari. Alright, so it's either to me it's probably is Kenneth Grant. Actually, it's either Kenneth Grant

or Cameron Williams. Yeah, the tackle from Texas for those that we haven't talked about Cam williams too much yet yeah so he so the conversation that i just had about kelvin banks jr where he's a little bit undersized he's probably a shade under six foot four um probably 320 pounds maybe you worry about the length and the height a little bit with uh kelvin banks even though i think he's got decently long arms for somebody who's like six'4 and just a shade under.

You don't worry about that at all with Cameron Williams. No. I mean, Cameron Williams is built like an NFL offensive tackle. 6'5, 335 pounds, really long arms, pretty good athleticism, good power to him. I think he's a first-round caliber offensive tackle, and he plays right tackle for Texas, which is where he would play for the Cardinals

because Paris Johnson Jr. plays left tackle. But they really need defense. And they really need pass rush on the defensive side. Right. Man. I think I'm going to go Cam Williams. I think that's the, I don't want to force it.

I don't want to force it. I don't want to force this. I think you can go heavy defense for them in rounds two and three. I think they should go Cam Williams. Cam Williams at 16. The Bengals at 17. Yeah 17 yeah all right we'll do it bengals 17 interesting offseason ahead let's find a way to assume that they can keep t higgins it's gonna be tough by the way do you agree with me now that he's getting 30 plus million dollars a

year no that is a man that is proudly stubborn i appreciate at this point i'm pot. I might as well keep the stance. Yeah, yeah, I get it. And then if somehow, some way, he signs for like 29.5, I'm going to tell you to suck it the very next episode. He takes the hometown discount with the Bengals for 29.5. And Schefter and Rappaport are like, whoa, the Patriots were out there. They were offering 34, but he wanted to stay with Joe Burrow.

And I'll respond to them and say, must credit NFL SE. Yes, yes. Please credit PLS. All right, the Bengals at 17. I'm going to take Malachi Starks. Smart. This team had a big drop off in safety play this year. I know they need help up front.

I'm not going to manufacture a pick that doesn't exist here. It's a BPA pick. This is a team that likes to take BPA. Let's go Starks. Yep, there we go. I'm not going to manufacture a pick that doesn't exist here. It's a BPA pick. This is a team that likes to take BPA. Let's go Starks. Yep, there we go. I like it. Seahawks up next. Before we get to that, have you guys played pick six by DraftKings? If you haven't yet, what are you guys waiting for? You better get on it. The playoffs are

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So the Seattle Seahawks now on the clock. Number 18. They'll have a new offensive coordinator. Ryan Grubb no longer there. One and done. Not going to lie. A little shocked. Yeah.

A little shocked about that. I like Ryan Grubb. I think he had his shortcomings in terms of flow of calling games. But I've liked Ryan Grubb since he was at Washington. I think he has the right ideas. To me, it's a little bit. Unless something behind the scenes was going on where, he just wasn't chilling with with Mike McDonald and that just sort of is what it is at that point uh it feels a little harsh to look at this year and say nope

you really did not do well enough for us I mean he's a guy jumping from college to the NFL I mean he's figuring it out I thought there were some good moments, albeit some struggles that he had, but anyways. Geno Smith, we had the Geno Smith conversation a couple of picks ago, but like McDonald said, he's the quarterback of this team, so we're going to assume that he's still going to be the quarterback of this team. They need edge rusher. They definitely need edge rusher. Leonard Williams had a phenomenal year, one of the best of his career, which is great to see. Boy, Amafis taking a little bit of an extra step, but they need extra edge rush help. However, the interior offensive line for the Seattle Seahawks was horrendous this year.

And I just think that's where you have to look. Now, I think Tyler Booker is probably the best interior offensive lineman in the class, but I think there's other guys that you could take that may be a kick inside. Like I look at Ariante Ursary, super explosive, massive dude. He's 6'6", 330 pounds. I absolutely think that he could play guard for you. And the pluses there is Abe Lucas, who's dealt with chronic knee problems. If he continues to miss games, now you have a legit option to kick out to right tackle

in Ariante Ursary for him to be able to play there. He played left tackle for Minnesota. But this is going to be the pick for me because at the very least, he's going to upgrade the interior offensive line. And if Abe Lucas ends up missing some more games down in the future, they've got somebody who games down in the future. They've got somebody who could fill in for him. So Ursary from Minnesota for the Seahawks at 18.

All right. I like it. I mean, this is a team that needs more offensive line help. They dealt with some injuries this year. It's got some position flexibility. The Texans at 19. Speaking of a team that had some offensive line problems this year, notably on the interior, I thought, which is huge for cj stroud yes i'm probably going to take the same approach that you just had with wyatt milam with milam yeah yeah i mean why not this is

someone that has been really clean and past pro for years at tackle for West Virginia. I don't see why he can't play inside if that's where they think they need help with him. I think he's somebody that most importantly keeps Stroud upright as a passer, but has such great athleticism in the zone running game, assuming slow stays and they still want to have variance in their run game. People might be a little surprised to see Milam at 19, but this is a big-time need, and he's had great tape for years. He's a little upright in his stance,

which worries me a little bit with playing guard. I agree. Perhaps that's something that you can, you know, a little hot yoga over the summer, three days a week. Maybe you can, you know, get the yoga over the summer three days a week maybe you can you know get the hip flexors yeah a little bit more flexible there haven't been down a little bit further in the stance get a little bit lower to be able to play guard consistently but no i'm uh obviously having fun a little bit here i do think the wyatt milam is a great offensive line prospect so

this one does make sense to me denver broncos at number 20. Wide receiver, tight end. I don't think tackle's as much of a need anymore for them. Linebacker, safety, that could be a need. You know, I'm going to go Colson. That was my first thought. Colson Loveland? Sean Payton just getting a tight end like him that you can move all around. Yeah.

I think it's a great pick. I think it's a good connection for Bo Nix, your favorite player of all time. I know. He's like a brother to me. Elevate Bo Nix. Help him. Well, it's either him or I'm also looking at Luther Berger. It's not a bad option.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to go Loveland. I think the tight end need is more dire. And I also think that Loveland, you know, pseudo wide receiver all the time, detached from the line of scrimmage. So big time mismatch type of a player. Again, like when we were talking about Tyler Warren,

it feels like a big time tight end era right now. We got two really good ones here in this class. So it makes sense that Sean Payton would prioritize one here, get one at number 20 with Colson Levin, which puts the Bucs up at number 21. All right, let's phone you in here. The good news for the Bucs, even after losing Chris Godwin, Jalen McMillan has been really good this year. So they have some depth in the pipeline at wide receiver.

I watch this team, Trevor, and it's just the classic case of they don't have the pass rush up front to help the coverage, and the coverage isn't good enough on its own on the back end. Yeah. Corner or pass rusher really are the two options here for Tampa. I think pass rusher, the more dire need. I agree, but also the lower supply. For pure pass rushers right now, I wonder if you're formulating a plan for Tampa,

do you wait or do you not wait at all? The best pure pass rusher on the board for me in this spot is mike green i was i was just about to say i'm probably if we're going edge rusher i'm probably picking your boy yeah i that's that's my number one player here at the need it was either mike green or i start to look at jadee baron and savon revel i don't have any clarity on revel's medical i don't expect him to be able to run before the before uh the draft yeah i don't either baron obviously has been a huge riser this year he was phenomenal and i like mike green as a pure passer i sure a ton in this class i've said he's a first-rounder for months.

Yeah, he'll be higher on my rankings when we redo him here. I'm going to take Mike Green. I just wanted your blessing, Mr. Pope. I know. Mike Green absolutely has the blessing because you look at the other guys like, maybe Princely, but I can understand liking Mike Green

over Princely Mondial. I like him better. Landon Jackson, I like, you know maybe princely but i can understand liking mike green over princely monty allen landon jackson i like but he's not like this pure pass rusher like tampa really needs jamar stewart has a lot of potential but he might not be the pure pass rusher you need we've talked about michael williams already certainly in that light as well so i am fine with the mike green pick here for tampa all right you're on the clock with the Steelers at 22. Oh, man. Okay, Pittsburgh. I think they need a quarterback.

I think they need wide receiver. I think they need a corner badly. And I think they could also use a safety with Minka. Yeah. You feel like you have to take Burden almost, right? Burden's the first guy that comes to mind,

and I'm trying to think, is there somebody else that would sort of make more sense here? I don't think so. I think Benjamin Morrison could be good for them. I think Trey Amos could be good for them. Jadae Barron plays more zone, so unless they wanted to do more zone... Man, I'll tell you what.

Morrison has become one of the most fascinating like prospect stock guys in this draft i have no idea if he's going top 20 or on day three yeah when a corner has a hip injury i just don't know until i talk to people about it i think we gotta go luther burden i just they're just not dynamic i would have sprinted there's they don't scare you no and they need something underneath like even if russ isn't the quarterback which it kind of feels like he might not be next year uh even with them making the playoffs they're way too much just run the ball and shot play right now. They don't have the underneath player to be consistent. Burden and Ibuka, honestly, these two guys. Right.

Give them the ability to do that. But I'm going to pick Luther Burden for them. I like that pick the most. All right, the Rams on the clock. I think they need help at corner. I'm going to take Savan Ravel here. Okay. I think they like these

guys that are explosive athletes that can kind of flip the field we saw them take verse and fisk last year and they really prioritize those guys because they could make you know drive ending plays and i think that's what revel does at corner so this would to me would be a less need kind of prospect that honestly you might be getting a discount because the injury i think revel had a chance to play his way into the top 15 this season and unfortunately his season was lost snipe me the packers because i i like revel for the packers a lot especially gyre alexander era probably over there yeah yeah and i mean that well i mean even if he is not what i wonder if baron makes the most sense for them then jday baron size at corner typically they need pass rusher but again like am i gonna sort of force a prince lehman miel i don't think

they're that he's he's their type. No. 6'4", 255. Maybe it's a little bit different now that they're running Halfley's defense, but I feel like if they go anybody, they go Sawyer. But I just feel as though they sort of have those bets on the roster right now. I don't think they're going to force anything, even for as poor as the pass rush looks. Kenneth Grant, I suppose he would play on the interior

next to Devontae Wyatt, who's having a really nice year. He gets to be a full-time three-tech instead of this tweener, nose-tackle, 3-4 defensive end type like he was the year before. They do have Carl Brooks. Van Ness just hasn't done enough I agree Michael Williams I think is their type

but he's oh Shamar Stewart yeah I think they'd really like Shamar Stewart but are they really gonna man that's just a lot of I know right

it's a lot of draft capital but Rashawn Gary hasn't played great either as a 4-3 defensive end Van Ness hasn't developed but they're so desperate at corner it feels like especially if they don't have jai here i think i might go jd baron here he's just the secondary playmaker i feel like they need yeah i could see it once, a corner with some size and length. I'm going to go Barron. I'll go Barron here.

Just an inside-out type of a dude. He's played slot before. He's played safety before. He's played outside corner. He played outside corner this year and had five interceptions and like 12 forced incompletions. So he was a monster. He was all over the place for the Packers at 24.

So you're up with the Chargers now at 25. Chargers at 25. Both Koston Loveland and Tyler Warren off the board. It's disappointing. How about Jim Harbaugh calling up an old friend and Kenneth Grant in this spot? Ooh, he knows a thing or two about Kenneth Grant, athleticism and size for a defensive line that needs it on their interior

right now. That's, that's an easy pick for me. All right. Okay. All right. So we're going Kenneth Grant. I think they need edge as well.

Like those guys got old and injured. Yeah. Yeah. But I just, I just don't like what's there. I mean, sure. I could have taken Stewart,

I guess. Yeah. Do you already read Grant? Yeah. I like Grant. Okay. All right. All right. We'll go great here for the chargers at 25 um 26 is the commanders they need pass rush they definitely need pass rush what else they need tackle yeah their offensive line needs more talent they've

really overachieved this year. It's a very impressive coaching job when you watch this offense. Oh, the first half. Well, you know, people have been listening to NFL. You know, that's no shock to us. Dan Quinn, good head coach. Crazy. Yeah, we've only been on every fix your franchise. We've only been talking about him for three years. So they they do need corner. I think this is going to come down to Benjamin Morrison or Shamar Stewart for me Stewart gives you some crazy athletic upside

at 6'6 290 playing as an edge rusher really good run defender this year plays like Clowney he's just got this massive frame, super explosive. Can play him up and down a little bit. Better run defender than he is a pass rusher, but he'll still give you some stuff as a pass rusher.

I think Stewart, to get a player of Stewart's athletic caliber at 26, it's hard for me to pass on this. I'm going to go with Shamar Stewart here for the Commander's D-line. It feels like a guy that would be surprising if he doesn't go around one with that physical ability. I would definitely be shocked if he didn't go around one. Yeah. The Ravens at 27, they've had a weird year on defense.

They just— Way better as of late because of moving uh kyle hamilton to free safety that and you know the quarterbacks they've played has helped a little bit too sure not to take away anything from them i'm fascinated to watch this team in the playoffs lamar's had legitimately a historic season at quarterback like there's you can't undersell it it's been a historic season for lamar jackson at quarterback the defense needs some more help they need another pass rusher i like the future of nate undersell it. It's been a historic season for Lamar Jackson, a quarterback. The defense needs some more help. They need another pass rusher. I like the future of Nate Wiggins at corner for them, but the back end is like, that's a good call out by you with Hamilton playing free safety. And our Darius Washington's now played better because of that. Right. It's

been like one fix that's led to a positive trickle effect yep oh man this is a little tricky because i kind of would like somebody with some pass rush juice which in my opinion here trevor would be princely i don't know if he's their type of player in this spot, but I don't really see another player like him left in this group. I think he'd fit. And they need that guy. Yeah, because they have... I'm assuming Kyle Van Nooy has been leading them in sacks.

Actually, I don't have the sacks up right now, but they have... Yeah, he had 12.5 this year, which is remarkable, by the way, for Kyle Vannoy. They have Odafe Owe. They have. Oh, they drafted Adiza Isaac last year. Right. But I think he's he's more of like a solid high floor type of an edge rusher. Yeah.

Juiced up pass rusher. They have David Ojabo as well. They have Tavarius Robinson. Very quietly, they still need help on the offensive line, too. Isn't Ronnie Stanley up after this year? We talk about this all the time. He is, and this is the first year in his career he's played 17 games

in a regular season. Don't you love how that goes? They signed him to this massive five-year deal. I feel like he never played. Yeah. And then it's, hey, Contra, and I'm not blaming Ronnie. It's just this is more of a luck situation. Right, right, right. And it's hey contra and i'm not blaming ronnie it's just this is more of a luck situation right right right and it's like oh thanks good luck for him though amazing luck for him when things are going right for you so offensive line would be in play but i just i don't like the board we've we cleaned up on the offensive line yeah we did in this class we did

yeah it's hard to find another really quickly i. I feel like Donovan is a rock who would be their type. It's just a matter of do you think he's going first round or not? I don't. Yeah, I don't either. Those measurables typically do not. As much as he's put out some, you know, he's been an absolute hell raiser on tape. I guess the Ohio State guys are in there too. Shoot, Landon Jackson would be too.

I think any edge rusher could be good for them. But if you want the most juiced up one, it's Princeley. Yeah, I'm going to go with Princeley. Okay, all right. Ton of production, as you guys can see there. 91.1 pass rush grade, 90.3 on true pass sets, 22.3 pass-through win percentage. I mean, he's got some really nice batting numbers to him. Really good speed combination.

Vikings at 28. This is a team that, in my opinion, is like locking in on corner. I mean, they could have some wholesale changes in their secondary, especially at the cornerback spot. So it really is just a matter of who they like better. Do they trust Benjamin Morrison coming back from that hip injury? If they do, I think he'll be their choice i think i'm going to pick him here 28 but i'd also think about trey amos who uh led uh the sec in forcing completions six foot one 190 pounds i think he's getting i think he's really underrated i really do um oh yeah you see right there forcing

completions 14 actually tied for seventh in the fbs, but that led the SEC 84.4 coverage grade. I think he's a really good football player. I'm going to go Morrison, though. I just got him ranked higher. I think he's somebody who, before he got hurt, he's proven he's got some good coverage ability. So I like Morrison a good deal, and getting him at 28 could be a bargain. Could be a bargain.

That'd be a huge injury discount for what he was coming into the year the bills at 29 yep this is a defense that that needs more um they've had some trouble getting off the field on third downs this year as much as they've been just had a fantastic season matt milano was hurt to start the year it's i think it's been you know you get dropped into a season where super bowl is on the line. It's kind of play. It's tough. It's a tough adjustment. And I think they need, you know, while linebacker could be a thought at some point for them in this draft to get more depth in that room to protect from injury. I think this is a little early here.

Yep. For the linebackers of this class, there's not really that guy yet that I've seen now. We didn't do linebackers yet in terms of the rewatch for rankings maybe that changes uh von miller's not getting any younger although he's still he's been fine this year another team that could use pass rush help i think d line is is where you look for the bills i was kind of thinking a player that could play up and down like Mike Hill Williams in this spot. I looked at Walter Nolan, too, from Mississippi. Another guy. Big run defender. Really good run defender this year. And I mean, just a freak athlete at 6'3", 305.

They use Greg Rousseau all over the place. I mean, then you could use Walter Nolan all over the place. That's a good thought process. And then you have your guy that's just a pure run stuffer in Tyleek Williams, who does not get moved off the line of scrimmage at all. His pass rush production is just nothing, though. And typically when you're like that, you don't go in the first round. I know. I know a lot of people really like Tyleek. And maybe, I don't know know maybe this stretch of playoff runs

and late games in december that i haven't watched yet or studied of him yet when we get to interior defensive line and maybe i'll like him a lot more but i just i feel like i've been lower on ty league the whole process and it's just he's a really stout run defender but he he just doesn't give you a lot if he doesn't win with this first step as a pass rusher and that sort of worries me going into the league of how valuable that is to me as somebody that really likes him i think some of it is a product of a weaker class and i can talk myself into him in the first round where other years i typically wouldn't because i know what i'm getting with ty league like he's not going to get moved off the ball against the run. He can hold double teams. And anything you get as a bonus of him growing as a pass rusher

is a nice layer in a draft that at this point in the draft, there's not a lot of players to me that are better than him on the board at 29 is my take. So I'm going to take Ty Leak Williams to the Bills. I think it gives them a different presence than what they already have. You brought up Rousseau, which is a really good point with walter nolan so i'm gonna kind of get somebody that compliments what they have up front uh shout out to joe marino friend of the pod who i was talking with uh earlier today and i've struggled on exactly who to give the buffalo

bills uh at times i've given them you know a jihad campbell um sometimes i'll give them a corner if if one of them falls but uh joe is like nope it's gonna be d-line it's got to be a d-line at least at this point in time he's like you gotta uh you gotta hone in on d-line for the buffalo bills and so we did here on this show so appreciate it joe giving us the insight knowing the buffalo bill is as good as anybody out there does philadelphia now at number 30 i'm up. Philly is a damn near impossible team to mock draft for because, well, they basically run two teams deep of NFL caliber teams because of how well Howie Roseman has built this team.

Josh Swett's a free agent. Brandon Graham's retiring after this year. I look to edge rusher. They drafted my boy Jalix after this year. I look to edge rusher. Yeah. They drafted my boy J Alex hunt last year. They have, well, Nolan Smith jr. Who's,

who's taking a step up this year, but I wonder if, if we're going towards another edge rusher, am I forgetting somebody for Philly that would take me away from that? Cause you just, this, this team is so deep, man.

It is. Hopefully they get a better year, too, from Bryce Huff, who had, I believe, a wrist injury this year. Yeah, I mean, they got Bryce Huff as well. Oh, it's ridiculous. They have Milt Williams, got Jalex Hunt. Yeah, and we knew Hunt would be a kind of redshirt player with how raw he was but how

special the traits were they drafted jeremiah trotter jr last year linebacker so i'm not gonna go linebacker i don't know how much longer uh dairy slay is gonna do it they have keely ringo eli ricks is, Isaiah Rogers, though. Isaiah Rogers played well this past week, of course. Is this just true, like, whatever BPA is for the... Probably. Like, are they just drafting Emeka Igbuka? I was just going to say it. Watch them just take Emeka Igbuka and be like, yeah, good luck.

Because they drafted Johnny Wilson and Aniyah Smith last year, but... Yeah, but that was so late. And they traded for Jahan Dotson. I know, who actually played well when he was the wide receiver one type of a player this past weekend as they were arresting everybody. I don't hate taking Ibuka. I don't hate taking Ibuka. I don't hate taking Ibuka either. No, you know what?

I'm going to take Walter Nolan for them. Okay. Why not? Because then you have a 3D line rotation of Jordan Davis, Walter Nolan, Jalen Carter. Stupid. That's ridiculous athleticism on the interior defensive

line. Well, and very importantly, Milton Williams is a free agent. So there you go. I talked myself into it even more. So that was like a one-for-one replacement. Yep. Five sacks for Milton Williams in his fourth year in the NFL.

He'll get he'll get paid by somebody and the Eagles will probably be like, hey, man, thanks, but we can replace you now. We replace you with Walter Nolan at pick 30. Might even upgrade you. I don't even know. I honestly don't know if they're going to be able to do that because Walter Nolan's really talented, but we'll see. You're up with the Chiefs at 31.

Chiefs at 31 chiefs at 31 so next year year two of course of xavier worthy travis kelsey no idea if he's gonna play or not getting older rashid rice i'm assuming will serve a suspension next year coming off the injury even if he doesn't he's coming off the injury wait because of what rishi rice yeah well the whole car oh okay yeah yeah that i i was thinking in my head i was like did he do something else i was like i thought would they not have already suspended him or no no it's just this thing has gone on oh okay so we're still going on with that okay all right all right i i almost wonder and this isn't really the podcast for it but yeah he's yeah he's way he's waiting it out okay so all right well he's that yeah the nfl

they're still investigating it right going through process. What we thought would be this year could be next year. Could be nothing. We don't know. I still with the Chiefs, who I think need offensive line help as well. But if it's not there, it's not there. Badly. I mean, you watch this team and it's just like. They need offensive tackle badly.

But what do we really think is there? If I was the Chiefs, I'm at the point where i'm i'm looking to get up for a big tackle i mean connerly is the one who i haven't moved up yet in rankings who a lot of people have a lot higher than this i really liked him over the summer he was my tackle for so then that's i need it we're for transparency for everybody trevor and i are watching tackles right now for our next show um i have not re-watched him but i i loved him over summer so like that's an easy sell for me and hopefully i still love him from this year if everybody's like ranking him highly now that means they loved him this year which means like i already thought the guy was good then you're probably justified in taking him at 31 easily Easily. Especially, this is what the Chiefs need.

Oh, absolutely. I'm trying to get you there. I'm there. I'm trying to get you there, brother. I'm there. Connerly at 31. The fun part of me wanted to take Emeka Ibuka, but they need an offensive line.

No, they're not going to take Ibuka. As fun as that is, they're not going to take Ibuka. No, they're going to trade back for Tyreek Hill and let the Dolphins pay the tab. Jeez. Don't do that to us. You heard it from the man? He said, I'm out of here, bro.

The Detroit Lions up at number 32. Oh, Jack Sawyer. Right? Landon Jackson. Yeah, I mean, Landon Jackson I think would definitely be their type as well. Sawyer is more productive, comes from the Blue Blood program. Him and Aiden Hutchinson could could be that like that movie script where it's like, oh, like this is my rival who I like hated my whole life. And then like by the end of the movie, like there's some sort of conflict and common goal where we actually have to like band together and become brothers and then like in the end we achieve the final goal

only because we once hated each other but now we're best friends like that is jack sawyer and nate hudgenson and look i'm not going to be the one to get in the way of that kind of hollywood script so i'm going to take jack sawyer here because they desperately need an edge rusher opposite aid hudgeson it is it's perfect i really wanted to talk you into them running the full house or the t formation and you take either scataboo or omari and hampton but dan campbell's crazy i don't know if he's that crazy. They can do that with, hold on here. They can do that with Quinn Sean Juggins in round three. Don't challenge them.

They will do it, and it'll work. Just be absolute pain. That'd be the worst trio of running backs to try to tackle. Jameer Gibbs, David Montgomery, and Quinn Sean Juggins. Just an endless ice bath. That's what that would be. You're sitting there just like, this sucks. You would. Yeah.

Be out of here. All right. So there we go. The first mock draft with the solidified draft order for the non-playoff teams. A little recap for the audio-only listeners. Don't say we never did anything for you. We love you. And number one overall, Tennessee Titans took quarterback Cam Ward from Miami.

Number two, the Cleveland Browns took Travis Hunter, the corner slash wide receiver from Colorado. Number three, the New York Giants took Shadur Sanders, the quarterback from Colorado. Number four, New England Patriots took Penn State edge rusher Abdul Carter. Five, Jacksonville Jaguars took Michigan defensive tackle Mason Graham. Six, the Las Vegas Raiders took running back Ashton Gentry from Boise State. The Jets took Tetra O. McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona, number seven. Number eight, Jalen Walker, the edge rusher from Georgia to the Carolina Panthers. Number nine, the New Orleans Saints took Will Campbell, the offensive tackle from LSU. Number 10, the Chicago Bears took

Kelvin Banks Jr., the tackle from Texas. 11, San Francisco 49ers took the cornerback from Michigan, Will Johnson. Number 12, Nick Skorton, the edge rusher from Texas A&M going to the Dallas Cowboys. Number 13, the Miami Dolphins taking Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from Ohio State. Number 14, Tyler Warren, destined to be a Indianapolis Colt, is an Indianapolis Colt

here at number 14. Number 15, James Pierce Jr., the edge rusher from Tennessee going to the Falcons. Number 16, Cam Williams, the offensive tackle from Texas, going to the Arizona Cardinals. 17, the Bengals took Malachi Starks to safety from Georgia. 18, the Seahawks took Ariante Ursari, the offensive tackle from Minnesota. 19, Houston Texans took the West Virginia offensive tackle Wyatt Milam. 20, Denver Broncos took the Michigan tight end Colson Loveland. 21, the Buccaneers took the

Marshall edge rusher Mike Green. 22. Pittsburgh Steelers, Luther Burden III, the wide receiver from Missouri. 23. Siobhan Ravel, corner from ECU to the Los Angeles Rams. I don't know why I had difficulty reading that off, but Los Angeles Rams, 23. 24, the Green Bay Packers took Texas cornerback Jadae Barron. 25, Los Angeles Chargers took Michigan defense tackle Kenneth Grant. 26, the Washington Commanders took Texas A&M edge rusher Shamar Stewart. 27, the Baltimore Ravens took Prince Leumon Miel and the edge rusher from Ole Miss. 28, the Minnesota Vikings took Benjamin Morrison, the cornerback from Notre Dame, 29. The Bills took Tyleek Williams, the defensive tackle from Ohio State, 30.

The Eagles took Walter Nolan, the defensive tackle from Ole Miss, 31. The Kansas City Chiefs took Josh Connerly Jr., the offensive tackle from Oregon, and then 32. The Detroit Lions set the movie script of all time. Jack Sawyer, edge rusher from Ohio State. We would love to hear from you the good people and what you thought of this year mock draft what you think of where your team is selecting what the team needs are what your ideal picks would be for your team best way to do that youtube.com backslash at nfl stock exchange you don't say this up on instagram and twitter at

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And it's just it's the best, man. I'm so ready to roll. Yeah. Coming up next for us. I believe it'll be Friday. We will have the offensive tackle episode for you. I might need an extra day to watch offensive tackle film and grind out the offensive tackle film to bring you the offensive tackle ranking episode.

I think it's going to come out for you guys on a Friday, but then we're going to try to churn out as many of these as we possibly can before we get to the Shrine Bowl and Senior Bowl at the end of this month. And then, man, time is going to fly. The Combine is going to be here. Free Agency is going to be here. We're going to have all sorts of exercises, some team mock drafts some some more mock drafts some updates from all these all-star events and uh so much great stuff like connor said appreciate you guys rocking with us for um

really a couple of years now honestly but you the last couple of months have been a ton of fun as well as we really geared up towards draft season best part about it for us is is this community like he said getting to interact with you guys and talk with you guys about what your favorite team could potentially do to make them better and make them more enjoyable to watch as the seasons go on. So we will see you guys on Friday. I'm Trevor Sikama. That's Connor Rogers.

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