NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 300. RE-DRAFTING THE 2024 NFL DRAFT

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Now that most of their rookie seasons are in the books, Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers went through the 2024 NFL Draft and re-drafted the players selected with some knowledge of how their careers began and where NFL teams are now in hindsight

Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Trevor Sikma, Connor Rogers here with you guys to do a little fun exercise. Today, we are redrafting the 2024 NFL Draft. Now, I understand, you know, some people are looking to this and saying, hey, this is a little premature. But you know what? Being a little bit premature, totally normal every now and then. You know, you got nothing to worry about.

It's totally normal. It's not a big deal. Don't worry about it. Connor, with that being said, how you doing, my friend? I'm good. It's time to get reactionary is what it's time for. And also at times to tell everybody to calm down and be patient with certain players yeah this is a cool one because the impact from this class especially offensively i don't want to say historic because that's maybe too far but it was just a big talking point of the nfl season

whether it was across fantasy obviously for the commanders it was real football right um and the and the broncos um it's been there's so many takes now that and i think some are really valid after one year where you're like hey this was a huge concern of mine and this guy at the next level just it just proved it wrong and then there's other guys where you know you want to see more from and maybe they they aren't in the first round if it was reheld today so it's you're right it's soon but it doesn't mean it's not fun yeah so i i think that this is going to be a a fun exercise to do and i understand you know there's going to be some people that freak out about it but we thought that this would be an actual fun exercise to do in as a way to sort of give recognition to a lot of these guys as well, you know, recognize their rookie seasons.

And instead of sort of doing an award show that, I don't know, I feel like we can spice it up a little bit more than just a regular award show. Doing it in this fashion is fun because we go, okay, let's recognize how great of a rookie season this player had. And then also maybe envision, okay, what would it be like if they actually went a little bit high on the draft? So this also gives you a sneak peek. Normally you do redrafts. The standard is three years, right? Wait three years to see how these guys have played throughout their NFL career.

And I think when we get to the summer, we'll do that. We've done that before here on this channel, but we thought that this would be a fun way to sort of recognize how these guys have played in their rookie seasons. And it's cool to see like all right well this is how they came out of the gate this is what they could be moving forward and then even more so than that I think the exercise is fun beyond just the rookies themselves but also the team building part of it right there's going to be a couple of teams in here they're like all right well we went into this season with a quarterback we had the option to take one and we didn't and so in this exercise with as good as the quarterbacks have played we'll probably switch it up a little bit there you know how high do the wide receivers go do

they go in a different order how high does Brock Bowers go you know all this kinds of stuff I think that it's going to be a fun exercise to get into so the way that we'll do it is normal mock draft format obviously we don't have the mock draft simulator that we're going to pull up so we'll try to just keep track as best we can is we're going to go with the draft order the way that it was at the end of night one so we're not going with the original draft order i know the minnesota vikings moved up a little bit uh to go get dallas turner we're keeping them at 17 instead of moving them down to 23 because I don't know it would have been kind of confusing to talk about well they took this player here but then they weren't played take this spot so we're just trying to keep it as straightforward as possible

with this exercise you have the Jets and the uh who was the Jets and the Vikings switched spots like 10 and 11 so that's kind of a minor one but we're keeping the order as it came out to be at the end of day one so that's the order that we are working with here um and i think that that means who didn't who didn't pick in round one wasn't there a team didn't pick in round one because of that at the very end you know what that seems like a problem for future trev and connor to figure out because we didn't uh because i forgot about that there's a little bit of movement wait we are prepared no way okay so actually it's the buffalo bills right because it's the buffalo bills they had right? Because it's the Buffalo Bills.

They had moved back with the Kansas City Chiefs. There were all those jokes about how to be 11-year-old. So we'll give a shout-out to the Buffalo Bills at the end. We'll make sure that we get them into this exercise. So glad that I thought of that right there. Good job, FutureTrap. Connor, odds or evens here. I'll start if you want.

I could go one. I don't really care either way. I want you to pick for the bucks. So I think you take the evens. Okay. All right. All right. Although I'll tell you what it makes your, uh, no, actually go ahead.

I'm curious. I'm curious. I'm very curious. Does it make my job more difficult? I was about to say easier. And then I was like, maybe not. I don't know which way you're going at number one, because that's the telltale sign of how much maybe you might lean into this exercise versus obviously making sure that, you know, like I said.

You're fair. The evaluation time period is normally three years that you wait for these things to do these redrafts. But it's, you know, we're throwing a little bit of a stick of dynamite here in this one that's what's fun about this yeah all right buddy you you're taking it you're taking number one chicago bears on the clock you sticking with caleb williams are you making a change here at number one overall after this season i don't know how you don't take jaden Daniels. There it is. And I know it's one year and Caleb can have a phenomenal career. I get it.

And listen, this has come from me. Like I liked Jaden Daniels, but I still didn't have them as I like. I had the quarterbacks ordered Caleb Williams, Drake main. I thought that gap was a lot closer than people wanted to admit. And my final rankings showed that.

But then Michael Penix and Jaden Daniels next to each other as the next two quarterbacks. And I thought they were all like top 20 prospects, franchise quarterbacks. But with Jaden Daniels, my concerns were, you know, continuing to grow against pressure. Staying healthy was a big one. And I thought he did a pretty good job protecting himself this year. Daniels, my concerns were, you know, continuing to grow against pressure. Staying healthy was a big one, and I thought he did a pretty good job protecting himself this year. He had the one injury in the middle of the year that his play went down for like a couple weeks, and then he was just, he's just marvelous.

And I think Cliff Kingsbury and him have worked perfectly together where there's a lot of quick throws. They've found ways to use his legs without completely, you know, putting him up as a liability in terms of how many shots he's taking to the body. I think he's played behind an offensive line that there's a lot of room for improvement. And outside of Terry McLaurin, you know, his weapons are Zaccheaus, Diami Brown, Zach Ertz. So Jaden Daniels has elevated this offense in ways that I didn't see coming as a rookie

and I think would have been unfair to expect, but he's done it. And that's why he'll be Offensive Rookie of the Year. He's been tremendous. He's just grown as a player over these last three. When you look at Jaden Daniels in a three-year sample size, the growth is so wildly impressive and unique it's not common at all to grow the way he has in a three-year sample size especially when it's you know transferring which there's adversity that comes with that and then being an nfl

franchise quarterback instantly there's adversity that comes with that so i think he's proved anyone wrong that had questions and And I had some questions. Let's be real here. I didn't like, right. I think, I think everybody really did at some point. That's why he went number two, not number one. And he's played like the guy that should have went number one. And it's, you just got to tip your cap.

This, this guy is phenomenal. And he is, he was a top eight quarterback in the NFL this year. And that that's probably calling it too low. I mean, you could legitimately say he's top six, top five quarterback in the NFL this year. Yeah that's probably calling it too low I mean you could legitimately say he's top six top five quarterback in the NFL this year yeah no look I agree with you completely and how you set up this conversation I don't know how you don't take Jaden after the year that he had you know even if it's just a sneak peek even if it's just one year even if I believe that Caleb Williams can still be phenomenal in this league you've got to take the player who's already proven

it and I think some people might bring up the okay well what about CJ Stroud we anointed CJ Stroud last year and then he had a bad year this year Bryce is now playing a little bit better and so that's sort of to say like I understand that there's a real conversation back and forth but again last year you look at a situation where CJ stroud comes out of the gate hot and even if bryce is now closer to cj stroud than he was his rookie season stroud's still fantastic i mean let's not sit here and just say that like strash or like stroud is trash now that's right that's not the way that it is he's losing his wide receivers the interior offensive line for houston was absolutely terrible did stroud play as good as he did the year before?

No. But, like, it's, again, I think that some people look at this exercise, and I've already seen some people talk about it in this manner, as if, like, whoa, we got to calm down because Stroud was good last year, and now he's bad. I don't really think Stroud was that bad. He's still one of the best quarterbacks. So, again, the fact that you already have sort of the guarantee that Jaden

came out of the gate and he was hot and he was ready for the NFL, he was confident, and we're seeing all this versatile ability from him. I don't know how you don't take him at number one. It makes it easy for me because I am sticking with Caleb Williams as the next guy off the board. sort of to continue that conversation that just because you got to have more faith in Jaden at this point than Caleb doesn't mean you don't have any faith in Caleb. Caleb still did some really nice things this season. The offensive line clearly was not what it needed to be. The team, the culture, the coaching staff, the voices in his ear, very clearly not what they needed him to be. So I don't want people to act like wow okay like Jaden's just run away and we're throwing Caleb Williams to the wayside I'm not at all whatsoever but the gap before was I had Caleb Williams at QB1 before the draft and I had Jaden you know I had Drake May right below him and then I had Jaden QB3 a little bit lower Jaden is now right there

if you were out there and you're a Bears fan I first of all i'd love to hear from you would you trade jayden daniels from caleb for caleb williams right now or would you keep it you still have to say that caleb is going to be the guy because i think it's a good conversation commanders fans would say hell to the no that's we know that well sure of course maybe that even leans into more of this switch is probably warranted because like the bears maybe could go one way or the other washington fans absolutely wouldn't trade in any way shape or form from what they've seen from jayden daniels so just something to think about bears fans let us know would you keep caleb williams at number one or if you had the chance for a do-over would you switch it like we did here in this redraft so i'm going caleb williams obviously at number two which puts you on the clock at number three all right so this one this one becomes a little bit

more interesting because obviously bo nicks had a really really good year um malik neighbors and brian thomas jr yeah had pretty nuclear years brock bowers i mean just pound for pound might be the like if you were let me put it this way trevor if you were picking someone in this draft after one year that you think will be in the nfl hall of fame i think the answer is brock bowers and ink ink i mean he i it's it's hall of Fame's obviously high bar. But I'm just saying you're picking one guy from this draft that you think is the best shot to make the NFL Hall of Fame. Yeah, yeah.

I think the odds would be Brock Bauer's minus 400. Yeah, I mean, record breaker, man, record breaker. He could have longevity. He's obviously already got elite stats after one year. Anyway, with the Patriots, I don't want to make this too long because I do think it's pretty simple. I'm still picking Drake May. I think Drake May is every bit of things you want to see

from a potential franchise quarterback in an awful situation. The line was abysmal. He didn't have a lot of weapons. I thought Alex Van Pelt, you know, that't have a lot of weapons I thought Alex Van Pelt you know that staff took a lot of heat and Mayo had a brutal year as a you know as his first year as a head coach but Van Pelt it was up and down for Van Pelt but you truly got to look at that situation what is this guy working with right yeah and and the answer was really nothing Drake May was somebody that made plays out of nothing he made plays with his legs he made throws on the run he showed flashes of playing really well in structure yes there was

rookie turnovers that's gonna happen and we knew that was gonna happen with drake may because of his he didn't have any help his last year at unc uh but the patriots if they were doing this again i think they would gladly say okay drake may we love him right now we're excited about him and he would be the third overall pick he would for me that's for sure yeah i don't disagree with you there yeah if i was gonna get the odds i would have done the same exact thing that you done here i would have taken jayden at one and i would have stuck with drake may at number three patriots need a lot of things but the only reason why we're able to look past quarterback is because of drake may right if they didn't have him

out there it would be a laundry list of things that had to get better starting at the very top of quarterback and i think drake's going to be fantastic in this league so i agree with you at number three the cardinals are extremely interesting because oh yeah they take mar Harrison Jr., who I think was fine. Anybody out there who is panicking about Marvin Harrison Jr., don't. You said this guy would be great. And I think he will be, and I think he will be. It's just that they've had to watch Brian Thomas Jr. and Ladd McConkie

and Malik Nabors just have these nuclear seasons, and Marvin Harrison Jr. has been totally fine for a rookie. I think that he is going to be a star in this. He had almost 900 yards and eight touchdowns, and everybody treats him like he's Josh Palmer. They're like, oh, man. This reeks. You know, coming off the conversation that you just brought up my mind immediately goes to

brock bowers as the guy who should probably come off the board next right the cardinals have a top three tight end in the league there you go in trey mcbride so in my head do I think that Bowers and McBride form this crazy tight end duo where yeah it's not technically a wide receiver but these guys can play x these guys can play in the slot the more that I'm thinking about it this was this was the selection that going into this exercise i was like man i just i don't know what i'm gonna do here you can't go wrong though that's a nice thing or can i only go wrong yeah there's people that will say you only went wrong i'm taking brock bowers at four whoa okay that was not on my bingo card i'm taking brock bowers at four i'm taking brock bow at four. Whoa, that was not on my bingo card. I'm taking Brock Bowers at

four. I'm taking Brock Bowers at four. You just said yourself, if there's a guy in this class who you think after one year has the best chance of being a Hall of Famer, it's Brock Bowers. I'm taking it. And especially because the flexibility for you to do so many things with Brock Bowers and Trey McBride on the field at the same time as a heavy tight end duo. Like I mentioned, you could play one of these guys, the X, which both of them do. You could play them out of the slot, which both of them do. It doesn't take it away. I would look at this pick as saying we are making our offense and our football team objectively better here by taking this player over almost anybody else. I thought about Joe Alt. I really did because

Alt had a phenomenal year and we're obviously going to bring his name up very soon. But I thought about him to potentially be the other offensive tackle there for Arizona, but it just Bowers year was unbelievable. And kind of like you said with Jaden Daniels, with Brock Bowers, it's not a one-year thing. Bowers was one of the best tight ends that we've ever seen in college football for three straight seasons, including his true freshman year. Then you go into the NFL and he has one of the best, and in some ways the best, season for a rookie tight end ever in the NFL. So for the past four years, this guy has been nothing but one of the best players on the field, whatever he is laced it up.

So I'm gonna take Brock Bowers at four. Yeah. It's, it's hard to argue when you take a great player, right? Like that's what it comes down to. He's a no doubter. Great player.

Why the combo with Arizona was so interesting. Like you highlighted, is because Trey McBride's there. But now you look at it and go, let's watch Bauer's usage and the things you could do in this offense. And quite frankly, the one thing I will say about the Marvin Harrison Jr. pick, I didn't think Kyler Murray played great this year, honestly. And even that held back Marvin Harrison Jr. at times where you go,

I think it's going to be fine. But maybe Brock would just be a better fit in the offense. So, yep. It's a totally fair, fair combo. Okay. So for the chargers, I'm going to keep this really simple. I'm going to still just take Joe alt. Yeah.

That's that's, that's the pick. Right. And it's what makes it even easier is they got lad mcconkey later on so you don't even want to sit here and go all right let's take malik neighbors because lad mcconkey where they got him and what he's been able to do and project him going forward looks incredible so you got a franchise tackle and then you got a guy that you could funnel number one targets through in the offense already so yeah the chargers hit this one out of the park to no one's surprise alt was a elite player in this draft and he still deserves to be a top five pick and he stays home with the chargers giants at six you really did give me the most difficult teams i did i did and this one i didn't i didn't even see when i handed this to you

this is this is actually like the walls of jericho this spot so i know what you're gonna do though so the way that we're obviously doing this exercise is like some people might look at it and say well you can't pick it in hindsight well that's actually the entire point that's what we're doing that's the exercise why do it if not right so we you can't pick it in hindsight. Well, that's actually the entire point. That's what we're doing. That's the exercise. Why do it if not? Right. So we have to take hindsight into account. The Giants so desperately need a quarterback now.

And so as we are redrafting it, we're going to give them one of the quarterbacks that's remaining. Three of them off the board. Michael Penix Jr. and Bo Nix have looked fantastic throughout this season. In the little bit that Michael Penix Jr. played, he looked awesome. Yeah, it made you wonder why you didn't see that Michael Penix Jr. played, he looked awesome. Yeah, it made you wonder why you didn't see more of him earlier. I mean, you are correct.

J.J. McCarthy obviously hasn't played because of the knee injury. I'm not holding that against him. I'm not going into this exercise with that sort of hindsight. I feel like that would be weird if we're like, well, are you going to take JJ McCarthy on a bum knee? I, I don't know that,

that, that part of hindsight feels a little weird to me. So I still think that he is fully in the conversation here. I'm gonna go with Bo. I thought that was actually easier for you. I didn't really think that, and no one who's going to sit here and push back on you. Bo had a great rookie season.

You know, obviously, this would be a big help for Dable, who just got nothing out of this position this year. Yeah. And I guess the combo comes down to Trevor is now that the Giants are picking at three. Would you rather have Bo Nix and, you know, a player at three in this draft? Or would you rather have Malik neighbors and maybe a chance at one of Shadur Sanders or Cam Ward, but far from guaranteed? That's, no, I, no. Yeah, no, I would take Bo in number three overall

to do whatever I want with it. Right. I mean, you could honestly narrow it down to, okay, we're going to have Bo Nix, and then at number three, we're getting one of Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter. Or Mason Graham, or whatever the combo is. And I know the Giants actually have a decent front four, although... And they wouldn't have Malik.

So in that situation... Yeah, but I wouldn't take Ted at three. Yeah, you'd probably take Ted at three. I don't know. I don't know if I'm there yet. We'll see. Oh, okay. Hey, you could trade out and still get Ted.

Either way. The point is this scenario is better for the giants. Yes. Yes. Anytime you have a quarterback in hand, that's the better scenario. Bonex this year, 79.2 overall grade,

81.2 Russian grade to show a little dual threat ability, 73.1 passing grade. And most importantly, he showed the ability to win and play well outside of Oregon structure, which I think was a big sort of talking point for him that he wasn't going to be able to do that. And I understand he landed in a really good spot with Sean Payton, but I also like Brian Dayball. So I feel like Dayball could have gotten a good amount out of Bo Nix.

So Nix is going number six here to New York Giants. You're up with the Titans at seven. So once again, the point of this exercise is to use hindsight. It's one of the only times in this show that we are happy to do that. The Titans at seven. I'm taking Michael Penix. Yeah, your boy.

I mean, would you here? Yeah, it would be him or JJ. Him or JJ. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, JJ looked awesome in the preseason. It's the preseason for a reason. He's had some knee procedure since. I'm hoping that he's going to be fine and be a really nice player in the preseason. It's the preseason for a reason. He's had some knee procedure since. I'm hoping that he's going to be fine and be a really nice player

for the Minnesota organization. But I got to see Michael Penix throw the ball around the yard this year already. And you had Penix above him. I had Penix significantly above him. So, and let's just be real. Like, this is an organization that is not betting the house on Will Levis. If anything, it could be one of the many reasons Rand Carthen's already fired, which is, you know, one of the wild storylines of the offseason.

I feel like there's a lot that goes into that. That doesn't feel like a healthy decision-making process. No. So here's the, it's the Giants combo all over again. If you're the Titans, would you rather have J.C. Latham and your pick of the quarterbacks this year? Or would you rather have J.C. Latham and your pick of the quarterbacks this year, or would you rather have Michael Penix and Travis Hunter? Yeah, or trading down from one and just getting an army of picks.

Great point. That is a very real other option in this, which is just as good as Travis Hunter. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I know my answer. Right. So that puts the Falcons up at number eight. We only have one other quarterback of the big six that's still left here,

and six out of the first eight. For good reason. No, for good. It's a quarterback class of guys that you want to believe in, and McCarthy's the last guy that's available here. Man. leave in and McCarthy's the last guy that's available here man Falcons fans might be screaming at me that this isn't obvious because you just said a few minutes ago that Michael Panik should have been starting earlier from Kirk Cousins and even if let's say if you didn't like how he played that game where we're taking the injury hindsight away from JJ McCarthy even if, let's say if you didn't like how he played that game where we're taking the injury hindsight away from JJ McCarthy,

even if he gets hurt again and you miss this whole season from JJ McCarthy, the Falcons would still rather wish that they had a quarterback in hand right now than not, given how Kirk Cousins played. Could you imagine if they didn't going into this offseason? Yeah, I mean, they'd be convincing themselves that Kirk is going to be better further away removed from the Achilles that's what they would have to do and that's a terrible place to live in we'd be having the Deshaun Watson muddy conversations when can you get out of them how can you do this just cap gymnastics with Kirk Cousins here this year to try to make something happen especially with them

picking um oh where are the Falcons where the Falcons are deep they're deeper yeah what are they uh 15 15 15 yeah it's got to be J.J. McCarthy it has to be as much as I would as much as I would have loved to like give them a top edge rusher you know Jared Versus had a phenomenal season and Jared Versus would be just what the doctor ordered for this Falcons defensive line. They need cornerback help. And there are some stud corners that played well this year that I could have taken here at number eight.

This is the conversation that we basically had with them when they selected Michael Penix. And well, they're pretty happy that they did. So I can't not give them JJ McCarthy. So in this redraft format here, we thought that six quarterbacks going in the first 12 was a lot in the real draft. We just had six go in the first eight picks here

in this redraft for 2024. So McCarthy to the Falcons at eight. That puts a bow on the quarterbacks. Number nine, the Bears. Rat Pack's still out there. Spencer raller oh this is true don't discount him don't discount him joe milton joe milton joe million is out there still out there week 18 joe milton goes top five some are calling him a week 18 merchant some are saying that you remember remember, what was it? Actually, now that I'm saying it out loud,

wasn't it Tennessee versus Iowa in the bowl game that he went off? I'm pretty sure that's a good recall by you. So he goes like last, because I remember that was one of his best games in college football. And everybody was like, look at this guy. He's 6'5", 250. Everybody was saying that Joe Milton was like the next great quarterback. Yeah, he had a—

He might be a last game of the year merchant. It does make you wonder, I'll at least say. Is something going on here? Does there need to be an investigation? What does he know that the people don't in the final game of the season? All right. The Bears at nine. They took Roma, Dunzay.

I kind of have a spicier one here. Well, there's two ways I can go. And I'm curious if, one, you agree with me. Because I think it is a little bit of a different approach. Because a lot of people are sitting there and going, oh, just take Malik Neighbors, which is fine. But I'm actually not offering you that chance. Well, I didn't want it anyway.

Yeah. Olu Fashinu? Yep. Or Jared Verse? Yeah, yeah. I think that's the combo. If you didn't bring up Verse, I was going to be like, I think we got to bring up verse here at nine um i would tell you that you gotta go verse

i think so too with how without how productive jared verse was this year it was all the disruption was insane and john lighter just pointed this out when we were doing some of the rookie review shows over on the PFF channel. I'll look it up in a second when I let you analyze this pick. If Jared Verse didn't have like an insane amount of missed tackles in the backfield this year, when he had the opportunity for tackles for loss or sacks, his numbers would have been bonkers.

Yeah. Because of how well he was getting into the backfield i'll look that up in a second so all right you talk about this fit and making this pick here i mean verse just the heavy hands the ability to rush with knockback power to use that against the run to have instincts against the run he's he gets off the ball he's been awesome and you know there's still a lot of like there's a lot of things of course after one year of a draft where you're like man I just I should have been higher on that guy or I was too high on that guy and like like Jaden Daniels as I talked about in the beginning uh with verse he was my top defensive player and it was one that really

tripped me up for a while because we had layout to lot to Dallas Turner, Quinn on Mitchell Cooper to Jean, but it's one that I'm glad I stuck with because when he went to the Rams, they just utilized his skillset to the fullest, like allow him to be that heavy handed, get off the ball, make explosive plays, hard charging attack front.

And he's just been a game wrecker for them. And one, they really, really needed up front. And if the draft was redone today, as you see here, there's clear argument for Jared Burst to be a top 10 pick in a class that, you know, the defensive talent really didn't get a lot of hype. And now looking back at it,

he could be an elite edge rusher in the NFL, which elite edge rushers in the NFL should always go, obviously, in the top 10 picks. He had a 33% missed tackle percentage when pass rushing. I mean, that's insane. Gotta clean that up. I mean, you gotta clean it up, obviously. He had a 23% missed tackle percentage overall, which is also incredibly high.

And I'm not even necessarily saying that is a big knock on Jared verse. You're correct. Definitely needs to clean it up, but it's almost more astounding than the other way around. He is an easy double digit sack player. If he brings that percentage down to 20%, you bring it down just to 20%. He's a double digit sack guy along with all the pressures that he created.

So yeah, I think that bears fans would tell you, even at number 10 here in this draft, like you maybe got to think about pass rusher a little bit if an offensive lineman isn't really a good fit here for you. You can think about pass rusher if it makes sense. And so to take the best one from last year, who is elite at getting pressure, makes sense to me.

So we do have the Vikings here at number 10. Remember, this is the draft order that we're doing after day one because we didn't want to go through flipping them all the way around. The Vikings ended up taking J.J. McCarthy here. They traded up to make sure that they were going to be able to do that because you had the Denver Broncos right there. You had the Las Vegas Raiders right there. So they were worried sort of that somebody was going to get up

and go get J.J. McCarthy from them. I'm going to have them taking Quinion Mitchell here. Quinion's been incredibly impressive for a rookie cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles. And in hindsight, you look at the year that Sam Darnold has had, I understand the last two weeks of the season really sour that. But I think that Vikings fans are very comfortable saying, okay, yeah, like, let's let Sam walk. We've got JJ McCarthy. We're good to go here. If they didn't have JJ McCarthy, I think that you could look at Sam's season with a little bit more rose colored glasses and you

could think to yourself, all right, well now we'll re-sign Sam to a little bit closer to what was that Baker Mayfield deal. Cause before the way he was playing in the regular season, you thought it was going to be a lot higher than that. Now you can get it for more of that type Mayfield deal? Because before, the way he was playing in the regular season, you thought it was going to be a lot higher than that. Now you can get it for more of that type of a deal. And then in your mind, you can think to yourself, all right, well, this is only year one with Kevin O'Connell. You know, like, yeah, he was still a little bit skittish in these last two weeks against the Lions and the Rams,

and those are the two teams that he lost against. But he played really well, and he improved a lot throughout the year. So he reverted a little bit. Yeah, there's no question about it. But I think that you could give yourself hope that, all let's re-sign Sam we got a bunch of other guys that we love on the team and having Quinion Mitchell as a lockdown young cornerback in a cornerback room that I think is going to get really depleted once free agency comes around to me that's sort of getting ahead of the curve there and uh I'll take uh yeah I'll take I'll

take Quinion Mitchell here at number 10 for the Vikings. All right, so now we arrive at one of the most interesting scenarios, and that's the Jets at 11. Oh, yeah, thank God. Because their first rounder in Olu Fashinu looked like a home run when he played. He was phenomenal, especially in pass pro. And they don't have an answer at left tackle without him. Like Tyron Smith just fell off a cliff this year. And he went on IR, and that's why Olu stepped in.

But I mean, the clock was ticking that Olu was just going to take that job anyway. That's how bad it was at left tackle. The flip side of this, Trevor, is Malik Neighbors is on the board. And I think Malik Neighbors could be an elite wide receiver at the NFL level. So you're kind of stuck with the, do I want the elite wide receiver to pair it with Garrett Wilson? Assuming,

you know, that that wipes away trading a third rounder for Devante Adams, which is probably a good thing or, but then you have no left tackle literally because Tyron was bad this year. And the depth that Joe Douglas drafted before that and Max Mitchell and Carter Warren, when they played this year, they were abysmal.

Like they couldn't play. So I don't really think you can go wrong in this scenario, but I think I'm just going to repeat the Olu pick because having a franchise left tackle is monumental in the NFL.'s if the Jets had no receivers you'd go okay we gotta get Malik neighbors in here because he's he's a game changer but you do have Garrett Wilson so I guess what it comes down to is would you rather go into this draft with no left tackle and Morgan Moses is a free agent so you technically don't have a right

tackle no tackles, but you have a sick wide receiver tandem and Garrett Wilson and Malik neighbors. It's the, it's the Joe Burrow meme. It is. We're back. We're back.

This is the jets version of it or Olu and Garrett Wilson. And you're picking seventh. Uh, yeah, look, it, and this draft, I think i'd rather have ola we just did the tackle show and then you're like ah anytime all things are equal you take the offensive tackle right and we have i've talked about this on social media i've talked about this here on this channel

before i'm not saying that wide receiver isn't a premium position. When you have a great wide receiver, they can make a big difference in your offense. However, the scarcity of getting a starting caliber and impact offensive tackle versus the scarcity of being able to get a difference-making impact wide receiver, even a tier two wide receiver, sometimes even tier one wide receiver you you

have way more opportunities to be able to get a wide receiver than you do an offensive right so anytime you present to me an argument where quote unquote all things are equal i'm i'm going to take the offensive tackle that's that's that's the way that i'm going to do it perfect way to kind of encapsulate my thought process here yeah all right so that's the second repeat pick actually the teams that took their offensive tackles the los angeles chargers that was the uh the first repeat pick there with joe walt and then new york jets sticking with uh olu fashion new if pedics made it there by the way i was taking him well yeah duh yeah anybody who hadn't clicked on the video yet would have just gone in the comment section and been like, I was really hoping,

I was really hoping, but obviously no, we had all the quarterbacks go in a blink. That was never going to happen. I was, I was going to make sure of it. Well, this one's,

this one's a layup for you. I think Denver Broncos, they took bone X bone X is not on the board. Is the layup Malik Nabors? Yeah, I think so. Because that's what I'm going with. Yeah. This was a spot where I think Corlin Sutton

had a really good year. But you rewind to the year prior, and Jerry, Judy, and Corlin Sutton were both kind of like on the trading block. And I know things are a little bit different. Obviously, it's a little bit more stable now that they have their quarterback. They maybe don't feel like they have to shuffle things around as much.

And I'm in Corlin's play really well, but imagine Corlin Sutton is your wide receiver too. You get Malik neighbors, your wide receiver one. Now, now we're cooking. So the quarterback situation, not great,

but I'm not taking Joe Milton here at number 12, not taking Spencer Rowland here at number 12. Instead, you just got to take a player that had an unbelievable season Malik neighbors. One of my favorite prospects in last year's class. Absolutely lived up to the hype, even through some of the injuries and the things that had him miss a little bit of time this year. So Malik Neighbors, first wide receiver off the board here at number 12. And I'm going to follow that up with the Raiders at 13.

So they got Brock Bowers in the real draft. That obviously was a home run. He's long, long gone, but we're still going to go pass catcher here. I'm going to go Brian Thomas jr. I was wondering if you were going to do it. I still think Marv is going to be phenomenal. I just,

this was my whole thought of why I was so high on BTJ in last year's draft. You just, there's just not a lot of guys that come through the NFL that are as big, fast, explosive, and have the length that he does where he can literally win in all three areas of the field off talent not even nuance just off talent he could high point the ball in the red zone he could take a screen for a big big gain I thought he played through contact really really well which was you know something

you want to see more of coming out of that LSU offense. Yeah. Brian Thomas jr. At 13 to the Raiders. So the saints are up at 14. They took my boy to Lisa Fulanga at number 14 last year. And even though he didn't have, you know, as good of a year as, you know, Joel did, I think Fulanga is going to be good. You know, he's rotating over the left side so he played right tackle for oregon state for um two years or three years i can't remember

but that was his that was his primary position when he was at with oregon state and then he flips over to the left side in new orleans so it was a little bit of a learning curve there for him going up against nfl speed there were already some questions of whether or not he was going to be able to handle things at tackle at the nfl level So a lot of questions that he was having to answer this year. And I think, I thought he did a fine job with it. I do, especially for a rookie season. I'm, I'm, I'm really curious to see if he takes a big step forward next year, or if it's a little bit more of the same, and this is kind of the floor and the ceiling for him. What we saw his rookie year. I don't think that's going to be the case. I think he's going to get a little bit better. I'm trying to picture, okay, well, because the Saints have major needs along the defensive line,

right? I mean, defensive tackle, pass rusher, both of those areas are major areas that they're going to prioritize and try to hit in the top 10 of this upcoming draft. And so we've got some ideal guys for that position, at least one that's really sticking out to me who could make sense here at number 14. But if I take Fong off of this team, it looks like Ryan Ramchick's going to retire. Trevor Penning was still really up and down. The interior offensive line outside of Aaron McCoy

really struggled him. When McCoy wasn't in there, man, it looked ugly. Hmm. Outside of Eric McCoy, really struggled him. When McCoy wasn't in there, man, it looked ugly. I had, man, I had these players pretty close in rank as well. I think I'm going to stick with Fuanga. I don't love it because Laatu, Latu's right there. And Latu goes to the very next pick in this draft. He goes to the Indianapolis Colts at 15.

So it's not like it would be this crazy flip, but it's hard for me for as much as defensive line is a need, offensive line would be just as dire if they didn't have fuaga so going off the conversation i just had a couple of minutes ago all things considered all things equal i would tell you that impact offensive tackle is the second hardest position to acquire onto your team outside of quarterback.

So I'll stick with Fulanga here. I'll go with Talisa Fulanga for the New Orleans Saints. All right, so the Colts, they took Leatu Latu. This is kind of an interesting scenario because Marvin Harrison Jr. is still on the board. And he could be a Colt, like his dad. Right. And it's weird because Alec Pierce actually had a good big play year. Like on 37 catches, he had over 800 yards.

And you have Michael Pittman, you have Josh Downs. But I think I'm still, and they took Adonai Mitchell, who I really wasn't very high on. I guess anything they get out of him going forward is kind of house money but I I would have done that pick differently in the second round which I said at the time I would take Marv here and by the way I would too for those wondering if I was going to repeat pass rusher I would not take layout to lot to, I would take chop Robinson with this. Ooh. Yeah.

I thought shop Robinson was physically more impressive than both lots to and Dallas Turner this year by a decent margin, but I will take Marvin Harrison jr. I would have, I am still clearly and confidently taking a lot to, right. There's a projection side of it too. Yeah. All right.

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lineman you were going to take and i thought it was between graham barton and zach frazier yeah i think frazier frazier has had the better year than barton was good though wasn't barton was good no no i'm not i'm not necessarily trying to take anything away from barton eight tampa bay bucks i don't i do i do yeah i regret the pick uh jason light obviously has no idea how to draft offensive linemen he definitely didn't form one of the best offensive lines in the nfl just a couple of years after losing uh some of his best offensive linemen that definitely didn't happen no but frazier's been unbelievable this year in the middle of the uh of the pittsburgh steelers offensive line i think that there are some guys along that unit that struggled overall,

but Frazier's been just phenomenal. And when you look at the Seattle Seahawks, they were number two in the NFL for most pressures allowed behind just the New England Patriots, and their interior offensive line is a big reason why. So Zach Frazier, the center from Western Virginia, who ended up going the second round of this draft, I got him going to Seattle here at number 16 okay I like it the Vikings they took Byron Murphy the

second I forgot to say that right off the bat they took by who flashed went through some injuries this year which which sucked but man him next to Leonard Williams Leonard Williams having maybe one of the best years of his career this past year that's gonna be a fun interior duo but you got to fortify that interior offensive line so I'm going frazier so the vikings are back on the clock um which they took dallas turner in this spot they traded up for dallas turner in this spot yep there's two ways i could really go with this pick here in my opinion i think one you could go past rusher again and I would take chop Robinson or I would help the backend of their defense, which I think needs help for the longterm future.

And I would take Cooper to Jean. I think it's tricky. I, yeah, I mean, I, I just, jean i think it's tricky i yeah i mean i i just that would be hilarious if queen on mitchell and cooper de jean went to the vikings in a reason i forgot you picked for them a corner yeah yeah my bad i think we're thinking of like them now right they are they are the first team uh besides the bears but the Bears weren't very interesting because they just redid what they took Caleb Williams when I was up on the clock for them. The Vikings did do something different to Quinion Mitchell,

so that would take Dajin out for me, and I would take Chop Robinson. Okay. Yeah. Good call out. I missed that. No, I mean, the team did it, and it's awesome. I was going to say that.

It might be in the say that this year so it's not a dumb strategy uh quiniana and quiniana cooper listening to the show obviously addicts themselves and they just be like yeah we're back again roommates again stepbrothers they're just you know joy karate in the basement could ever could ever separate those two the brothers for life um all right so that puts the mates again stepbrothers they're just you know joy karate in the basement can never can ever separate those two the brothers for life um all right so that puts the that puts the um the bangles cincinnati bangles yeah up here at number 18 they took a marius mims who yeah i mean they they needed offensive line yeah he's good back then, they needed offensive line. Yeah, he's good. Back then, they need offensive line now. I mean, they have, their interior offensive line has been bad.

Yeah. It tempts me to take, to take like Graham Barton or Dominic Poonie because those guys were really good in their rookie seasons. I have such a wild take for this one. All right, let me think for 10 more seconds and then i and then i want to hear it okay so i i mean troy faltano obviously got hurt but like he could be great as well yeah mim's outlook is so high still i think he could be really good. Okay, what's your crazy take?

I would think I would take Devontre Sweat. Oh, wow. So in this draft, they took Chris Jenkins Jr. in the second round. So they addressed their interior defensive line need in the second round. Sweat has had a fantastic season, but where would that leave the Bengals? I'm pulling up their depth chart. Like if they did not have any offensive tackle option, that's,

this is the jets issue all over again. Yeah. Oh, cool. Our offensive line stinks. Why we it's the patching up one hole on the boat. And then you look on the other side of the boat and the holes are coming through that side but man they they could not stop the run dude that front needs no the defense is the reason why they're they did not make the playoffs

right the defense is a hole i shouldn't just say they couldn't stop the run they had multi-layered issues The defense as a whole. I shouldn't just say they couldn't stop the run. They had multi-layered issues. Hmm. I still think I'm going offensive. Yeah, it's you're right. It's the issue I ran into with the Jets where I wanted Malik neighbors, but I still had to take Olu. Man, you know who else has played really well this season is Rosengarten. Really well. For the Raven the ravens yes extremely well man

i'm tempted by rosengarden what about i mean jc latham is still on the board yeah no it's not like latham was a bum no no no no i i don't think that at all but i think rosengarten had the better season yeah right no i think that's i think that's a very fair take i'm looking i'm just looking up some of rosengarten's numbers right now let's see where baltimore ravens it's kind of quietly been a hero for the ravens yeah i mean the pass blocking has been really nice i mean he's got a good offensive line around him Baltimore Ravens. He's kind of quietly been a hero for the Ravens. Yeah, I mean, the pass blocking's been really nice. I mean, he's got a good offensive line around him, so who's to say, you know,

if he's playing with a bad interior offensive line that the Bengals were this past season, this is where he's starting. I think... The interior offensive line? Of the Ravens? Oh, no. I mean, Linderbaum's elite. Like, the guards are okay.

I think the Ravens are a really good system for lamar obviously can really cover up some deficiencies and the king running behind them i think roser garden roser garden's been impressive individually i guess is where i was trying to go or should i say it would be translatable other places now i'm going to going to Mary's Mims. I'm sticking to Mary's Mims. Yeah, Mims was awesome. I mean, he just needs to be healthy. I'm sticking to the same spot. Even if it's a little bit more of like, okay,

well, Rose Garden was better as a rookie. You know, we don't want to totally just be like, oh, all right, well, rookie year, that means they're going to be better overall. I have faith that Mims, as long as he can stay healthy, which I think is the other part of this that we need to talk about. Yes. If he can stay healthy, then we're talking about a uh a high impact player who i think could be a starting caliber offensive tackle for them for

a long long time so i think that was the right pick at the time and i still like it now so you're up with the rams that's a good job by you bringing us back down to earth for a second like i would take marius mims over we love change people love yeah we started we started to fall in love with the change and marius mims He's such an exciting player. The Rams at 19, where this is the portion of the show and where it's like, damn, like it's the reaping sowing meme.

Like everybody else up front is like sick. Now we got Jared verse Rams who got Jared verse, the best defensive player in this draft at 19 are like, wait, this fucking sucks. So Rams, you don't get Jared Verst anymore. You're at 19, and a lot of the great players are gone. But there are still some really good talents available.

For this spot, for me, I'm going to take Cooper Dijon. Okay. This is the back end. They still need help on the back end. Once again, it stinks. You don't get Verst. I could go Latu lot to here who is solid and i still like going forward dallas turner had a really slow start but there's still promise with him but it's just verse was in a different category and i don't think you could replicate that by just taking the next best edge available

but i do think cooper dejean is a phenomenal piece for any for the back end of any defense yeah nope i i don't disagree with that pick i think that he is a great choice there i probably well i guess i could say that i would disagree with it just because i i think i would have gone with layout to lot to um but byron young's been great for them the entire young core has been great for them it It's weird to say, like, it's weird to play the hindsight game with the Rams because they have so many young players to step up for them. Like, you could also, you could have looked at the Rams situation during the draft last year, and you could say to yourself, all right, well, they're obviously, like, they'll take Edger and Cooper then

because Edger and Cooper are still here, and Cooper's been unbelievable. But Omar Spates was an undrafted free agent for them and is legitimately playing at starting level so it's it's really weird to play that game with the rams because it was so many young players that they drafted in this class that have been playing so well down the stretch but hard to argue with the gene who is who is a fantastic football player so the Steelers are up at number 20. They took Troy Faltano. And even though, so he,

so he doesn't really play this year at all. A little bit, not much. It's the injuries. Yeah. They wouldn't have Zach Frazier in this scenario because he was picked in the second round. Their offensive line wasn't great this year,

especially if you take Zach Frazier off of it. Right, who was just phenomenal. Their corners are very bad. Yeah, outside of Porter. Drew Phillips had a phenomenal year. I think Drew Phillips could be great. No, even Porter was bad this year. You think he was flat out bad?

Yes. Interesting. Yes, I think Joey Porter Jr. was flat out bad this year. I just wouldn't consider him somebody I'm replacing. You know what I mean? That's how I kind of look at this product. They have holes at corner, but he's not the guy I'm replacing i think i don't think you're replacing him next year because it doesn't really behoove you to do so but like if he has another season

like he did this year then he will not be a starter then right at that point moving forward so i think you're at least like starting to have the conversation about it so drew phillips i think would make a lot of sense here. Over Nate Wiggins. Yeah, I mean, no, Nate's a great call out. Like Nate has played really well, especially down the stretch since the Ravens sort of switched up their defense and have Marlon Humphrey playing a little bit more in the slot. They moved our Darius Washington

and Kyle Hamilton more towards free safety spots and that's freed up one of the outside spots. And so Nate Wiggins has played there and he's been great. Romo Dunze is also still on the board here for Pittsburgh. That's a good point. And they desperately need a receiver. Let me ask you this. Would you take Romo Dunze over Ladd McConkie for the Steelers?

I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. Which I know is nuts. But for the Steelers, I would take where the slot would be. And McConkie could play inside and outside, but still. Where the slot could be open, because you have Pickens outside, I would take McConkie for this team. You son of a gun.

You son of a gun. We're doing it. Yes. I'm McConkie. The Pittsburgh Steelers here at number 20. The Miami Dolphins. You gotta pick the good football players. That's the name of the game.

The Dolphins at 21. They got Chop Robinson at this pick. He's already gone. They took Patrick Paul on day two. This is an offensive line that needs help. They are in an interesting spot here because now you're subtracting chop

so you still need pass rush so lots who would be in play yeah sure yep but i'm i'm not gonna lie i'm you know it's funny when you go full circle with a pick like i always loved mock drafting graham barton to this team last year oh they need interior offensive line something fierce right so i'm gonna take barton here which is what i wanted or pooney because pooney pooney was pooney was excellent this year yeah i think and i'm not taking away from Poonie, I think playing in Kyle's offense brings out the best in offensive linemen. I think Barton is even more translatable league-wide. I'm not saying Poonie's not the better player, but if I had to go back to my draft eval and project long-term

and situation by situation, I always loved Barton's athleticism in this offense, loved it. And I don't think the Dolphins made a mistake because chops been really good in a short sample size, but I would take Barton here with chop off the board. This one's pretty easy for me. Philadelphia Eagles took Queen on Mitchell and absolutely hit a home run

with them with him at 22. They also took Cooper to Jean later in this draft, not having either of those guys here in hindsight, like I'm taking true Phillips. Andrew Phillips has been fantastic for the New York giants and he's played as a, as a, as a slot corner for them and looked really good certainly to start the season and look good throughout, honestly.

But I think he can play outside as well. Like I think he's got inside out versatility for you. So he is the next best corner, in my opinion, from this class off the board from how he has played this year. So I'm gonna go with Drew Phillips, who was a third round pick, I think.

Yeah. One of Joe Shane's rare wins so far. It's been all seriousness deal. I'm retaking him here. 22 for, for Philly. Okay. So that puts the Jags on the clock in a total reaping sowing situation because they got brian thomas jr and now you don't get a player nearly

that caliber in the redraft i think this is a team that had a lot of issues on the back end where i might go nate wiggins here to get another corner now what you have to take any corner what you yeah they do and i understand a little bit of this was that tyson campbell missed time this year but even if you add tyson campbell back into the equation full time they still need corner so and they need safety but there's not a safety on the board that i i love this early um so i yeah i'm gonna take nate wiggins here who nate was always a guy because i think he was a 20 year old draft pick he was always somebody that you had to he was he didn't turn 21 until the end of training camp you knew there was physical maturity and

he wouldn't be a day one star but when he's now played and down the stretch like you highlighted trevor you see the promise with wiggins like he's got length uh in terms of he's got he's legit he's got elite athleticism i think he's playing a little more physical which when you go to baltimore like that's the culture you're not going to survive there if you don't notch it turn up your physicality a notch uh so wiggins i think is yeah you nailed it like he's very very legit and somebody that you give a really good trajectory going forward i would take him here for jacksonville detroit's up at 24 and um this is a absolute blast of a scenario for the Detroit Lions because there's two players on the board here

who would be unbelievable for them, in my opinion. They take Terryon Arnold and also took Ennis Drake-Shard Jr. in these classes. Not that I would totally shy away from the cornerback position. I wouldn't redraft Terryon Arnold over the two players that I'm going to mention here for them who have been unbelievable. The first one's Laatu Latu, who lot to opposite Aiden Hutchinson, even if Aiden gets hurt, I think really helps out your pass rush.

But can you think moving forward? Can you think about layout to lot to on one side and Aiden Hutchinson on the other? Like it's, that would be an absolute nightmare for any team and pair of offensive tackles to go up against. So I'm thinking about that. And then the other one is, given the deficiencies and injuries that they've had along the linebacker level, I think about Edger and Cooper. I think about how big of an impact player he could be in the middle of that defense for them

and how big of an issue linebacker has been. And just straight up how incredible Cooper has been this season. I think I go to, I think I'm going to go through here. Yeah. This is my boy was a top 10 player for me last year. I think he's going to be fantastic in this league. So it is a little strange that I think that lot to had a perfectly fine rookie season and he's still going to be an awesome player in this league. And we had him going 24 instead of 15 where he actually went. But I think that just goes to show you how good this draft class was and how easy it is to buy into the players that have already shown us something so far this season.

I agree. It's two things. It's one, guys that achieved well above expectation in this draft class and two teams that have emergencies on the offensive line I think that's what got us here the Packers at 25 they took Jordan Morgan with this pick this is actually very easy for me I'm gonna go Roma Dunzey in this spot I think Green Bay needs a receiver in this offense that they funnel number one targets through. And I think they tried to do the committee approach. Jaden Reed, Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Dontavian Wicks, obviously Tucker Craft at tight end.

I still think this offense needs a number one guy that commands number one attention, can win at all three levels, can make a play above the rim. Christian Watson always had that potential. He just doesn't stay healthy. It's a number one guy that commands number one attention, can win at all three levels, can make a play above the rim. Christian Watson always had that potential. He just doesn't stay healthy. It's a shame. He just does not stay healthy, and he's not consistent. He's kind of a deep ball merchant. A Doonze could be a complete player,

and he'd have the opportunity needed in this offense. I'm with Doonze at 25. Just highlighted your point, by the way. Yes, 100%. Yeah, I just how good this class is. So the Buccaneers are up at number 26. Graham Barton's not even on the board still. Nope, he gone.

Chasey Latham is Byron Murphy. The second is Dallas Turner is man. I if you believe in Dallas Turner, which I do is very tempting to take him here let's see I don't know if there's anybody I mean they need corner bad they need linebacker bad so and they need they would have needed interior offensive lines like Jackson Powers Johnson uh who ended the year really strong. You liked Poonie a lot.

Yes. I like getting more of a center. Okay. Unless they thought Mock could play center for them. I always thought he would. And it feels like he's settled in fine at guard. Yeah, I know he has. I thought he was too small to play anywhere but center, and he's settled in fine at guard yeah i know he has no i thought he was

i thought he was too small to play anywhere but center and he's been totally fine i don't think i'm like forgetting anybody that had like an unbelievable seat would you would you take latham and play him at guard um not over how pooney played this year. Okay. I would just take Dominic Pooney. It's Dominic Pooney or Dallas Turner, essentially. I'm a little bit worried. Vikings fans might yell at me for this.

I'm a little bit worried that Dallas Turner couldn't get on the field a little bit more this year. I know they didn't like desperately need him. Like Jonathan Grenard played well. Andrew Van Eagle played well. Like I totally understand that, but I would have liked to see Dallas Turner get on the field a little bit more.

The Bucs did take Chris Braswell. So they took the other Alabama hedge rusher. He was quiet this year, right? Braswell. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And they, they really could have used him if he would have been that, but I'm going to rusher. He was quiet this year, right? Braswell, yes. Yeah. Yeah, and they really could have used him if he would have been that play. I'm going to go Dallas Turner. I'm taking Dallas Turner here.

I just got their pass rushes so bad on the edges. They so desperately need some sort of pressure on the edge. I think just in hindsight, again, like I would in this situation, I'd trust Jason Light to find interior offensive linemen more often than I would find the high potential that we have with Dallas Turner. So I'm going to go with Dallas Turner here for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All right, 27, the Arizona Cardinals. They took Darius Robinson with this pick.

Yep. And I gave them at the top, I gave them Brock Bowers at the top, the number four four which doesn't change much pass catcher for pass catcher i'm gonna take to vandre sweat here add the beefy the beefy fella in the middle of this defense yeah you can't you can't run at him it just changes how you could play your fronts um arizona they could use a presence like this at nose tackle so i i was a big fan of this fit they need more talent across all three levels of the defense but notably the big guy in the middle i think just makes everyone better man this this redraft for the cardinals getting brock bowers and devandre sweat

is really strong in my opinion like you are a physical nasty football team because they need help on the interior defensive line yeah that was an easy pick for me i thought yeah it was he was great this year every you know there was concerns about hey could you you have the conditioning level at the nfl and he was really good for tennessee so the chiefs are now up at 28 so they traded up with the buffalo bills to get xavier worthy they need offensive tackle something terrible yes well you got latham on the board yeah latham and faltano are still on the board i think i'm going with one of those guys i'm just scrolling to see if there's anybody no i mean why wide receiver is obviously like something that they would have liked here ricky pierce all's been good obviously xavier worthy has has been good for them he's played a lot and

he's been a good return on investment for them i mean they've needed him yeah but tackle is like just glaring tackle is such a glaring need like you you think they could scheme without x Xavier worthy more so than they can you know having well it's funny you say that because I agree with you 100 wholeheartedly they're the one seed without it played out you're right but they had to move Joe Tooney to tackle no you're right like that's like that's utterly ridiculous they did did have to do that. That was a good move. They did have to do that. Would I pick Jalen McMillan over Xavier Worthy? What?

Oh, so you're not even taking alignment. No, no, no. I'm taking alignment. I'm taking alignment. I'm just thinking. I'm just throwing stuff out there. I'm just having fun. You're just out of control.

It's podcast. Would I take Jalen McMillan? He says. Go Bucs, baby. Yeah, I'll go JC Latham. Latham was higher on my big board than faltano was they're very close both of them top 15 players but actually i think i want to stay true to the big board where am i here uh let's go i don't fit the tackles oh no i had faltano at 15 i had lathe them at 18 okay all right all right i'm gonna take sure i follow time then

no argument for me all right i love futonu okay i'm taking him to the chiefs the cowboys of 29 where they took tyler guy in i am gonna take jc latham here smart yeah it's just you know yet a big physical tackle that was ahead of Guyton in terms of where he was as a prospect. This is kind of an easy one, and Dallas can get back to being a smash-mouth, downhill-running team behind Latham. So now we have the Ravens up at 30. They obviously hit with Rosengarten in the third round.

Rosengarten's still on the board. They could certainly use now the offensive line. That's offensive line is running like a well-oiled machine they took Nate Wiggins here at number 30 Nate Wiggins is not on the board anymore the only corner who's left is Terry Arnold who I still think would be a good pick for this team Kamari Laster's here Kamari's had a great season oh Mikey Sam Mikey Samersill is here, who showed that he can play as an outside corner. Right. He's always had the size.

That's the funny thing with Samersill. It's like he's the small sly. He's light, not small. Well, no, he's smaller. No, he's not. Yeah, he is. You're acting like he's 5' eight he's hold on what hold on wait oh he's okay wow he's below he's below 5 11 okay i stand corrected i could have swore and i know

nine and a half i know uh this means nothing but i could have have swore Michigan had him listed at six feet tall as a prospect. No way. Did they? You can look it up. Okay. They had him at 5'10". I stand corrected. You're just.

That's just a miss for me. You're just looking at the dog in the fight. You're just looking at the dog in the fight. You know, it's the phrase. It's not about the size of the car. Like a hair under 5'10". Isn't like you could never play outside. DJ Reed's about to get $30 million from someone.

He's like a 5'9 barely outside corner. Yeah, I think I'm taking Sanderstow here. Because one, he was one of my favorite prospects in the class. Yeah, he was awesome. He is somebody who, when I evaluated him, it's so hard for me to give like slot only corners, anything close to like a top 50 grade. Yeah.

But I gave that to Sainer still because he was that good. And all jokes aside, like the dog in him was huge. And I believe that he was going to make the jump to the NFL level and, and, and just be fantastic at whatever his assignment was going to be. I didn't think he could play outside. And Dan Quinn's like, nope, you're doing it.

Play outside this year. He was good. Right, and they didn't have a lot of options. And he really held his own. So I think I go saying we're still here. I guess they could use one of those wide receivers that are here, but no. Guyton is still here, and I think Guyton could still be good, so maybe

you could take him on offense and tackle. Jordan Morgan's here as well. We haven't brought his name up a ton. Byron Murphy II on the interior defensive line, but they have Nnamdi Matabuike. The edge rushers are fine. I don't think it's as much of a need to not take Saner still here. Man, Tykee Smith's been really good too. Dominic Poonie's still here. You mentioned how their interior offensive line hasn't been as strong.

Actually, let me look at that depth chart. Let me see what that depth chart looks like for the Baltimore Ravens real quick. So Macari was playing a tackle. And then they moved him inside, but Poonie could have been playing a guard, and Macari could have stayed at left tackle. Man, I didn't think I'd have this. I didn't think I'd have this big of an existential debate here. Ooh, Tarheib Stills

also had a great year. Yes, he has. Great year for the Chargers. Yeah, he's been a find. Would I take him over Sainer still? Probably not. Probably not.

You're in hell right now. I'm in the walls of Jericho, dude! Absolute hell. All right, let me look up one more thing. Let me look up one more thing. All right. Because I got to see the numbers right there. I got to see these numbers. Let me look up one more thing. Let me look up one more thing. All right. Because I got to see the numbers right there. I got to see these numbers.

Rookies, position. I'm pulling up ultimate. I'm doing it. Pulling up ultimate. Rookies, corner, coverage grade. Let's see it. All season, give me the guys that are left because I know that I mean there have been times when all of these guys have played really well and I've already sort of made my case

for Saner still I think that he could be a really good pick here but now that I've thrown Tarheib still's name in there as well dude 74.8 grade coverage grade from Tarheib still he played really well what's the six forced incompletions? Kamari Laster's got seven. Samer Still's got 14. What a dog! He's got two picks. Tarheib Still's got four picks.

A couple more gifts. That's okay. I won't hold that against him. We're taking Samer Still. I did the research. You truly went around the world to land right where you took off from he just feels like a phenomenal raven phenomenal performance absolute cinema absolute cinema should have cast me for the new season severance oh my goodness

oh man well while you were doing that i did try to get some research in on what the hell i'm going to do for the Niners at 31 because I've been terrified. All right. What do we land on? I mean, this is a team that was just completely decimated by injury this year where there's a lot of different avenues you could go. I didn't land on anything, by the way. You know, I'm still going. I'm still going. That's why I've been so into this. It's not easy.

I hate it, to be honest with you. Well, thank God you took all that time, because I'm nowhere closer. Okay, I have two thoughts here. Okay, hit me. I'll give you, I got one, so you go ahead. The first one is corner. Yeah. So the guys that I mentioned, like Kamari Laster,

I think would be great for them. They ended up taking Renardo Green, who I think is great. I think he was a really great pick by them. I think they got a steal in this draft by getting Renardo Green where they did. But, like, Tarheep still is still on the board there. You can take him, Tara, and Arnold i think could be great for them as well so the the corner route i think is plentiful still at this point in the draft for how these guys have played in their rookie seasons what about bucky irving oh god you're you're just so wild dude no we're not doing this again like Bucky Irving has been awesome you're right on

you nailed it I'm not taking a running back to the Niners when they have Isaac Garendo Jordan Mason Patrick Taylor whoever they're right all right hold on hold on Isaac Garendo's not on the team in this scenario I know what i'm just just christian does christian mcafree is is he alive at this point is it's not looking good it's not looking good that's all i'm saying brother no it's listen it's not insane bucky's been unbelievable elite 90.7 you really deserve more flowers for that eval um because mean, in all seriousness, he's better than I even said that he is. It's insane how good he is. I felt like I was Biggie.

You were Biggie Smalls. I'm Bucky Irving. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. So he's been great. I just want to shout him out. I just want to shout him out.

I had to make sure I shouted him out in the exercise because he was the highest graded rookie that we had this season. Just shout him out. So let me say this. Bucky Irving deserves a shout on this show because he's been one of the best rookies in the entire NFL. I'm going to take a player here that didn't exactly pop the whole season but was solid. And I like going forward. And's byron murphy for their interior their oh man i was taking i was taking him next to carolina if you did oh so that's why you didn't pitch him to me absolutely i i need i would hope that after three years you're realizing

i'm trying to sabotage you and i know um yeah they need interior, any kind of defensive line help here. And Murphy's going to be a good player. And he was fine as a rookie. It's just these guys went nuclear in front of him. So the Niners, they get a really good value for a guy that went much higher than this, went top 20 in the actual draft. So Carolina's up at 32.

This won't be the last pick. We'll also do the Buffalo Bills at 33. So just be thinking of that. We can handle that together. Or if you get a pick pretty quickly here uh we could do that carolina it is a little bit for me to think about they drafted xavier laguette here they needed a wide receiver badly they also have jalen coker who is an undrafted free agent who they got in this draft but again in this scenario they don't have jalen coker i guess you could say to yourself well like okay well they're gonna sign him after this draft anyways, maybe.

But again, if we're doing the whole exercise in hindsight, you better believe Jalen Coker's not going undrafted. So they take Ligette here at 32. I think Ligette has been fine. The conversation's absolutely wide open for them to have gone with somebody else. Yeah, there's better wide receivers receivers available Braden Fisk had a good year you know him next to Derek Brown I think would be a really nice one-two combo

you know if they wanted to get another corner you know Kamari Laster, Tariq Stowe we mentioned those guys Taron Arnold those guys are still there the offensive line became a strength for them so I don't I don't feel the need to pick offensive line. Edger and Cooper. Ooh, that's a fun pick. I think is actually probably the best fit for the weaknesses that they would have had in hindsight, because they draft Tevin Wallace here in this draft in the third round. But Cooper's been incredible for the Green Bay Packers

and what he's been able to do for that team. You know who else was? It was Evan Williams. Evan Williams, also good. No doubt. No doubt. I think I'd take – I would take Cooper here for the – Me too.

Me too. Panthers. But it's like, all right, well, they need pass rush. I mean, is there anybody left? Normally we take the good pass rushes already. And you just took Byron Murphy, so I would have taken him there. Michael Hollis had a good year, but I wouldn't take him over Fisk even. Right.

Let alone Cooper. Pooney's still on the board. We haven't gotten Pooney off of the board. I don't know if we're going to. It's kind of a damn shame, but. It happens. It does. Did you and Taylor Demerson, who's been really good in the limited amount of time

that we've been able to see him play this year for the Arizona Cardinals? You brought up Evan Williams. I think that he's in that conversation for one of the best safeties that we saw this past season. Malik Mustafa, I think he's had a good year as well at safety. Yeah, he has. Again, I'm just sort of shouting people out now as I'm sort of going down the list.

I'm not thinking about them over. I got to go Adrian Cooper. We got to get Adrian Cooper into the first round. He's played too damn well this season. I would have taken him for the Bills if you didn't. Yeah, actually, that's that's that's a snipe i actually feel kind of bad for that because they're terrible human yeah yeah you know what and i embrace it actually i mean i'm actually gonna embrace it i'll be the villain

on this podcast and then for bonus for the uh buffalo bills here at number 33 they ended up taking keon coleman keon coleman is still on the board you know they got some defensive line defensive end needs sort of moving forward if you wanted to go in that direction but curious where you're going here with buffalo yeah keon coleman's been fine by the way so this is this is kind of one of those like let's shake it up for the sake of content i don't mind adding you know you took cooper so that takes out lie backer which they've dealt with a lot of injuries at that position. This is a hindsight show. I don't mind adding a DB here. Honestly, I thought Evan Williams is in play.

I had a couple of people in play. Now my brain just froze as I had them all written up. Lasseter has been so solid at corner that even though the bills have corners, it's, you could still take him. Yeah. When I do mock drafts, bills, it feels like bills fans. solid at corner that even though the bills have corners it's it's you could still take him yeah when i do mock drafts bills it feels like bills fans the feedback is like corners and safety is like they're good interesting i i would look to upgrade from damar hamlin as a starter but i guess

they like the future colt bishop they drafted colt bishop in this draft so in this scenario that's why this is difficult you're right in this scenario they didn't that's very fair you know um but there's a safety oh and tyler newman was good this year by the way i want to make that very clear also got a crap so if they if they hate taking corner and safety kind of changes things man fisk would look pretty good in this front wouldn't he him and Ed Oliver just like cut from the same cloth right just like these smaller sawed off interior defensive linemen just getting after it but they score so many points that they can they can attack like that they probably pin their ears back a little bit luxury the reason why like once again I'm shaking it up because I'm shaking up for content Keon Coleman's been fine

but also if like if you look at this offense running through Khalil Shakur they traded for Amari Cooper. I know in this instance they haven't yet. The tight ends, James Cook. Coleman's been a fine addition, and he'll have a really nice future going forward. But you can go a different position and have fun with this. That's the key.

Yeah. Maybe. Well, the problem is the pass rushers went, so there's not even like a luxury pass rusher that I'm taking in this spot. Fisk is that from the interior. What was there? Hold on. Let me pull up the past depth chart.

Like before the draft, what was it? Oh, they still had digs. That's funny. Yeah. Digs. Curtis Samuel.

Kalusha here, Mack Hollins. So yeah, I mean, it was definitely, I mean, Mack Hollins. So yeah, I mean, it was definitely, I mean, why receivers definitely on the, but there's a reason why they went out and got a Murray Cooper even after

drafting Keon Coleman. So if you wanted to go with the wide receiver, even if you wanted to go with Keon Coleman, I don't hate you for it, but that's kind of my point. I don't, I don't really feel the need to disrupt this pick without things stand. I was just trying to give Bill bills fans something different just to chew

on something all right do it go ahead throw it out there we already threw the caveat we can't be blamed it's just it's just boring if i just go ahead you know we've lawyered up we have we are absolutely prepared for this um okay how about this i'm gonna take terry on arnold all right because he didn't make it into our first round, and I still think Teron Arnold has a really strong future, and I think he has some versatility as well. Okay. All right. There we go. So, I'll recap it a little bit for everybody.

People that are watching on YouTube and the people who are listening on audio. So, the order was the same. Chicago Bears pick a number one overall. They went with Caleb Williams originally. We gave them Jaden Daniels, Washington Commanders. I gave them Caleb Williams, then a little flip-flop there. Doing a Patriots, staying the same with Drake May. Oh, I missed that before when I was saying that, oh, we had Joe Walt was the only one who was the same.

Drake May was also the same. Arizona Cardinals, I took Brock Bowers instead of Marvin Harris Jr. Los Angeles Chargers, Joe Walt stayed the same. New York Giants, Bo Nix instead of Malik Neighbors. Tennessee Titans, Michael Penix Jr. instead of J.C. Latham. Atlanta Falcons, J.J. McCarthy instead of Michael Penix because Michael Penix was already off the board. Chicago Bears, with their second pick, they went Jared Versa instead of Romo Dunze.

Minnesota Vikings, Queen of Mitchell instead of J.J. McCarthy because McCarthy was off the board. New York Jets staying the same with Olufashnu. Denver Broncos, Malik Neighbors instead of Bo Nix. No more Bo Nix on the board. Las Vegas Raiders, Brian Thomas Jr. instead of Brock Bowers because he was long gone. Saints, Talisa Fuanga staying the same.

Offensive line staying the same. We're just betting on this offensive line. It's hard to take a promising offensive lineman away from a team. Right. Because then you're like, well, this sucks. I think that's what we've learned from this exercise. That is really, it's tough to do. Our theme.

Even in hindsight. Indianapolis Colts at 15. They went with Marvin Harrison Jr. Set up the legacy pick. Set a layout to a lot to. Seattle Seahawks. Zach Frazier instead of Brian Murphy. The second Minnesota Vikings with their second pick.

Went with Chop Robinson instead of Dallas Turner. Cincinnati Bengals. Amarius Mims stayed the same. Well, lucky there. Los Angeles Rams. Cooper Dijon instead of Jerry Verst. Jerry Verst is long gone. Pittsburgh Steelers.

Lab McConkie instead of Troy Faltano. Miami Dolphins. Graham Barton instead of Jerry Verst. Jerry Verst is long gone. Pittsburgh Steelers. Lab McConkie instead of Troy Faltano. Miami Dolphins. Graham Barton instead of Chop Robinson. Philadelphia Eagles. Andrew Phillips instead of Quinion Mitchell. Jacksonville Jaguars. Nate Wiggins instead of Brian Thomas Jr. Detroit Lions.

Laatu Latu instead of Terry Arnold. Green Bay Packers. Romo Dudze instead of Jordan Morgan. That'd be fun. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Dallas Turner instead of Graham Barton. Arizona Cardinals. Savandre Sweat instead of Darius Robinson.

Kansas City Chiefs. Troy Faltano instead of Xavier Worthy, the Cowboys, J.C. Latham instead of Tyler Guyton, the Ravens, Mike Samuels still instead of Nate Wiggins, San Francisco 49ers, Byron Murphy instead of Ricky Pearsall. Shout out, Bucky Irving. And then the Carolina Panthers, Adrian Cooper instead of Xavier Leggett, finally, at number 33, beginning of the second round,

Buffalo bills, just cause we love you. Terry and Arnold, instead of Keon Coleman, we would love to hear from the good people. These exercises are always a lot of fun to do. Obviously there's a lot of fun conversation. As you guys heard throughout this hour and a half long podcast.

Look, we understand the stipulations to do redrafts. Normally you go with three years out, but we wanted to have a bigger conversation about how well so many players in this class have played versus expectations that were already really high for a lot of other players so how we're valuing expectations versus a little bit of a sneak peek of what we have already seen from their career we would love to hear from you guys on this exercise and how it played out best way to do that youtube.com backslash at nfl stock

exchange uh you can hit us up on Instagram and Twitter at Tim Baytray, at Connor J. Rogers as well. We have one more episode for you guys this week. Scheduling has been a little bit different, and it's going to be a little bit different now that the seasons, the regular season is over. I don't know if we're going to be doing as many Monday and Tuesday episodes, although like Shrine and Senior plans might sort of adjust to that

because we never are really sure when we're going to be able to record there because we just want to give you guys the best content possible. But obviously a Wednesday episode today. Friday, we have the early Edge Rusher rankings. So we're going to do the Edge Rusher rankings for Friday's episode.

So be on the lookout for that. Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here, my friend? I mean, basically when you were rounding up why we did this show, you could have just said we are we're chaos merchants we have 100 we are profiting off of absolute chaotic scenarios and takes and that's okay we don't get to do that often so there's a lot of fun doing that rankings continue you and i have locked the doors not spoken to anybody eating chicken and rice watching edge rushers i'm a double digits already

baby i'm ahead of where i was last week still cooking cooking we set a really nice baseline with that group over summer i found this group the the baseline for this group is better than the other groups we've done where so much has changed things change but i don't know it's just we'll explain it on the show you'll just have to tune in. And like you said, we're going to be in catch me if you can mode with all the traveling coming up for, you know, all-star games, Super Bowl week, two weeks of break, and then combine. There's a lot going on. It's going to be a lot of fun.

So you're going to see our faces in a lot of different places. Yeah, including the pilots of your plane, because that's what Connor means when he says to catch me if you can. We're going to be pilots. That's what we're going to do. Him walking in with all the different women flight attendants is one of my favorite, like memes I use of all time.

It's just, it's a 10 out of 10. Yeah. And by actually, actually what I should have said is, and by catch me if you can, it means that Connor and I are going to commit bank fraud is actually what we're doing.

And hide in another country and get arrested right before Christmas. So honestly, we would love to hear from you guys about this whole exercise. It's so much fun to look back on it. Whoever your favorite team is, let us know in the comment sections. I'd love to have a lot of different fun discussions going back and forth, not just between us, but between the addicts as well. This draft community that we have built. Appreciate you. Love you guys.

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