NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 304. 2-ROUND POST SENIOR BOWL MOCK DRAFT

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

0:00 - Intro 4:45 - Round 1 1:13:00 - Round 2

Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sycamore, that is Connor Rogers. Joining you guys for one of our favorite episodes that we have all year long. Shrine Bowl and Senior Bowl practices are wrapped up. That means it's time to give you guys a mock draft. Encapsulate all of our thoughts that we saw on the ground at shrine bowl practices at senior bowl practices everybody's favorite form but we're giving you extra round of course because we want to talk about more of these guys so it is a two round mock draft here today connor how you doing

my friend good man fresh off getting home from the senior bowl we We got a lot. Yeah. Sorry. Must be nice. I don't mean to rub it. It's tough. If it makes you feel better. It's the whole trade off of, you know, do I want to wake up in my bed? But I'm also getting in the door after 1 a.m. And yes, the trade off is worth it every single time. But we have. Great.

Yeah. Yeah. So you screwed up. I thought you were going to give me a little bit of sympathy. And you you were just like, nope, actually. You've made a horrible mistake. There's no going back now. But man, this is going to be a monster of a show. I feel like we just have takes to unload. Everyone's been asking, like, you guys going to do winners and losers?

And we've been doing shorts on TikTok, Instagram, social media. That's a quicker way to talk about winners. But I think this is really emptying the bag. Shout out to everybody who watched and followed the new Instagram and TikTok pages that we have for the show. We figured it was kind of time. What we would like to do is not only do these long form episodes that we have here on this podcast,

that's not going to change, but give you guys that short form content that it feels like everybody's gravitating a little bit more towards. So we figured what a better time than right before the Shrine Bowl to kind of kick off those accounts. So, if you guys do have Instagrams and TikToks, please subscribe to the show there. It's the same thing, NFLSEShow, at NFLSEShow.

That's what it is, kind of cross-platform. We're trying to unify the brand a little bit here, right? We're trying to actually do what we need to do, not just do the podcasting, but also the business side of things. But I'm very, very excited about this mock draft. There's a lot to get to. We will be a little bit quicker on the first round just because it's a lot of players that we have talked about before we'll talk about obviously the team and player connection but we want to spend a little bit more time on those second round guys because this is the first time that we are giving you a second round mock draft and we can talk about a

lot more players that i think that we saw over the last week here at these all-star events in the second round specifically and talk about some draft strategies that teams can have outside of just those first round picks. So, Conor, let's get it kicked off. It's going to be a long show here. You want odds or evens? Believe it or not, I think we had this somewhat settled.

You're going to take the odds, right? I think it had this somewhat settled. You're going to take the odds, right? I think it makes more sense. You were at Shrine and went straight to Senior Bowl. And I think there are, I won't spoil anything. I just think there's some interesting elements to the odds picks from Shrine into Senior Bowl. Shout out to Muscle Milk, not a sponsor of this podcast, but it feels like the reason why i'm living and was able to survive for that seven days i went to the grocery store right before

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Yeah, and shout out to anabolic steroids. I mean, that's the real thing. Yes. All right, let's kick it off. Thank you for steroids, for biceps. Let's go number one. Let's go number one here. Tennessee Titans. Oh, I i gotta pull the mock draft simulator of course dude it's our first time doing this understandable ready to get i was ready to get right to it right into the rant

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Look, hate mock drafting is like half of our subscribership that we have about that. So we'll take it. Tennessee Titans are up at number one. Titans are one of those teams that you learned a little bit about when you were at shrine bowl and when i was at shrine bowl and what i learned about the tennessee titans is that they the cleveland browns and the new york giants did extensive interview work in person with one quarterback shadur sanders from colorado now that's not to say that I'm 100% saying that Shadur is going to go number one overall in this upcoming draft but to me it showcases that okay

they they really are invested in this quarterback class because we've had the conversation before of like all right well you know do teams really believe that this is a quarterback class where you're going to take a quarterback at the top do they see it more like the 2012 class or the 2022 class excuse me where we didn't have the first quarterback off the board until Kenny Pickett at 19 to the Steelers? It does not feel like that class. And so Cam Ward, not officially at the Shrine Bowl. He actually was on the sidelines for the Shrine Bowl game, which is cool to see him and Shador standing next to each other. They seem to be good friends. They're competing throughout the offseason. And you kind of love to see that. I'm going to stick with Cam Ward here at number one.

I think the Titans are honing in on one of those quarterbacks to make sure if they don't get one in the pro market that they are comfortable taking one of these guys. For us, it's been Cam Ward sort of at the top of our quarterback list for a while now, and I'm going to stick at number one, and I'm going to continue to have Cam Ward because nothing that I heard or saw at Shrine over the last week made me think that NFL teams are so against this quarterback class

at the very top. I think that they are intrigued by it, and I think that they are comfortable at this point in time taking one of these guys if they can't find a better solution in free agency about a month from now so I'm gonna stick with Cam Ward here at the top for the Tennessee Titans just because of the ceiling that he brings it's a really it's really good insight from you and I think that I mean listen the quarterbacks even though there's only view two right now viewed as the first you

know first round guys are top of first round guys until we think they're not going to go for a specific reason. I feel like this is going to be commonplace despite the whole generational player comments and all of those things. So, uh, cam ward goes number one in Tennessee, you know, with technically a new regime or part of a new regime, they get a little bit of a different look now going into it head first so you up with the Browns number two Browns at number two where the conversation technically could be the same right you could sit here and go hey Cam Ward if he was there could he be in play he's not on the board so it would go down to shooter Sanders I think the Browns more so than the Titans and Giants the team in front of them and the team behind them

might be a little bit more open to going a different route than this class and getting a great player instead now that could change they have a lot of process to go through what I always remind people during mock drafts in January and early February like the coaches that I know and the pro scouts that I know, they're barely even sniffing the draft. They're looking towards free agency. So you have the variable of those guys getting involved in the process

after the key decision makers. I think the Browns might explore the veteran quarterback market, see what's out there where I'm comfortable enough going with a player and in Abdul Carter here Trevor which is which is kind of you know an interesting one right because it's making a strength of strength because you could sit there and go man Travis Hunter could do a lot of different things

for this team but how do you block Abdul Carter and miles Garrett? I don't have the answer. And I think if you can rush the quarterback at an elite level, you can win a lot of football games and they'd expect Stefanski with the veteran quarterback to get enough out of the offense that they think they'd potentially have an elite defense with those two edge rushers. So I'll go with Abdul Carter, who the more people you talk to, it feels like he will be the first non-quarterback taken in this draft i think it's still up in the air between him and travis hunter but i i have

felt a little bit of a shift over the last month trevor yeah and it's worth noting that this is also the first mock draft that we've done i think since the college football playoff so very good point players and performances that have happened throughout the college football playoff that we're going to incorporate here in this mock draft and you know how how abdul carter played against the smu and and against uh duboise state like you know notre dame he was he was it felt like he was unblockable he was in those games saying that game with one arm right he hurt his arm and so it's like with one arm this dude's still getting pressure on the quarterback and still making a ton of disruption so i i agree with you i think that we're trending towards him being consensus maybe maybe not between you and I, maybe we might have

Travis Hunter or somebody else at number one overall, but I think consensus overall from the industry is going to land with Abdul Carter as the number one overall player in this class. So I'm not pushing back on you. Number three is, is the New York Giants. And one of my top takeaways that I had from Shrine Bowl weekend, outside of what I got to see from these guys when they were playing on the field, which we'll get into a lot of those notes as we sort of get into round two and even beyond in this show. We'll talk about it a lot more over the next couple of months.

I think Shadur Sanders is going to be a New York Giant. Now, I'm not necessarily saying that like breaking news, like I heard that that's absolutely happening but i'm trying to forward but i'm trying to but i'm trying to connect the dots here um it was reported that shadur where he did not practice with the with um with everybody out there during the triumphal practices he met extensively with those three teams that i mentioned that are at the very top of the draft. You also see his interactions with Brian Dable on the sideline of practices. And it's not like, you know, it's not the interactions of somebody who has gotten to

know, has done the research on, has talked to this player. And if they weren't in on Shador, I think the Giants would be a little bit more reserved than Brian Dable would be a little bit more reserved and Brian D'Abel would be a little bit more reserved. Now, I'm not trying to put his entire draft stock into the incredible dapped-up handshake that they had on the sideline, but that does go into it a tiny little bit because it shows sort of that. Brian D'Abel was like, hey, Shador's right there.

I'm saying what's up to him. I'm going to make sure that I know that I'm recognizing him as I'm kind of passing by and everything. And again, just those little things that go, I think you guys like him. And I think that one way or another, Shadur's going to be a New York Giant. I don't know if it's going to mean that like Deion's going to try to kind of try to push it as we get closer to the draft. Obviously, the Giants are picking at number three.

They're not picking at number one. If the Titans love Shadur, then we're having a big conversation of okay does Shador have any power like like Eli Manning did like like John Elway did where he actually gets to sort of pick and choose where he might go because I do think that that could exist and I'm not trying to say that's that's a big time negative but I think the influence of Dion and who he is could go a long way into this and New York is in a situation where the Sanders family should love the idea of going to New York. The reason why is because John Maher is pissed off right now. He wants to win.

And he knows that whether it's with Joe Shane and Brian Dable that they have right now or somebody else, that ownership, not caring, not putting Shador in a good situation to succeed or maybe the best position they possibly can to succeed, that is going to happen. They want to succeed desperately, and they're pissed off to do so. And so just connecting the dots of sort of the way that I saw the coaching staff and players within the – people within the Giants sort of interact with Shador when he was on the sidelines, knowing that they met for a long time,

hearing that they've done a lot of extensive work on him. I feel like Shador Sanders is going to be a New York Giant when it's all said and done as we're recording this mock draft. So that's my thoughts. Listen, I don't think it's crazy at all. I mean, this is an organization that everybody's kind of looking around and going, they got to take a quarterback, it feels like. And that's never a position you want to be in that you have to,

but they got to make something work here. And if Shadur just falls into their lap at three, rather than having to flip into a different range, like flip with the Browns or flip with Tennessee, then it makes it a little bit easier to digest, I think, for the New York Giants. So, I mean, they know, they're well aware that if they kick the can down the road one more time,

there might not be a can to grab. There might not be a scenario where they get to ever make the pick. There's only so many times you kick it down the road and then you're on the sideline or you're on the streets wishing you made that decision. So I think that's how it's going to play out for the Giants as we sit here today. And Shadur was there.

Four for the Patriots. I'm going to keep this one simple. I'm going to go Travis Hunter. I will drop the caveat that I think he would play more wide receiver in this situation. I think that New England, now maybe they can make a big play play more wide receiver in this situation. I think that New England, now maybe they can make a big play for a wide receiver like a T. Higgins,

but they need a playmaker for Drake May. Travis Hunter is an excellent playmaker. Maybe you give him some looks and packages. Maybe he comes in when you go dime. I mean, there's a lot to figure out longterm with Travis Hunter, what he wants to do, what teams want him to do. I think opinions are very bad mixed right now,

but I just love the idea of him going to new England and being a receiver first. I mean, I think that this makes a ton of sense there. I like the idea of even on the, on the flip side, if he played corner, probably him and Christian Gonzalez,

Christian Gonzalez is sick. Right. And I think that, you know, when you talk about Mike Vrabel being the head coach of that team now you've got two cornerbacks that know how to play really good man coverage and when you have that that is an absolute luxury and you have the ability to get very aggressive with the fronts with the linebackers with the safeties coming down when you have two corners that you can uh that you can count on the outside so I agree they certainly need the playmaker in the passing game as well. I wonder if like a Ted Haroah-McMillan is on their radar as well,

just because of the size, right? Mike Fiebel, I think that he's a, probably leans more towards the power aspect of playing positions. I wonder if that sort of entices him there, if he wants to go on the offensive side of the ball. But certainly Travis Hunter, I don't think you're going wrong with him getting picked at any spot. So the Patriots get Hunter there at number four.

Jacksonville Jaguars, no Trent Bulkey, head coach Liam Cohen in there now. I mean, I like the I like the Mason Graham idea for this defensive line. I mean, can you think about this? Josh Hines-Allen, Trayvon Walker,

Arik Armstead, Mason Graham. That has the potential to be one of the best defensive lines in the NFL. It's a good-looking front. They need corner. Will Johnson is here. I think Will Johnson also makes a lot of sense for this team.

The Jags are one of those teams that I think really needs, we really need free agency to happen for this team. To accurately say, okay, what's going to happen for this team to accurately say okay what's going to happen here at number five because I also love Ted McMillan here in this offense knowing that you just hired an offensive head coach knowing that the the foot the the foot is on the pedal and the pedal is to the floor with how they want to operate this offense how much better they want to get ultimately I do think there's a lot of offensive weapons in this class and I don't know

if there's another Mason Graham so I am going to go with mason graham at number five to set up just a sick defensive line there at jacksonville yeah i think it's a very you know easy pick to imagine just because of the floor that graham has that people will love yeah six elite run defender and yes also has just some crazy crossover moves to him with his explosiveness. The Raiders at six. Now, this is not what you love to see, in my opinion. The quarterbacks are both gone. The two best players in the draft and Carter and Hunter are gone. And I would count Graham pretty high up that list as well.

So with the Raiders, you have a situation where. Do you want to just weapon this thing up and go Tet McMillan and Brock Bowers and kind of play basketball out there, which I don't think is out of the realm of possibility? Or do you want to help the back end and grab Will Johnson, who I think Will Johnson was better in 2023. I think there's more context needed that he played through a lot of injury this year when he did play. And it really slowed him down to being the great player we know he could be. I'm going to go with the corner here, Trevor, in Will Johnson. I just think they need that number one shutdown kind of guy.

And I think that is there a world where I have no problem with them taking tat, but I'm curious what they're ultimately going to do in the pro market at this position. And I just feel like them, they've needed that number one corner to really be a matchup player on the backend. Biggest weakness on the team. I think no doubt about it.

Well, outside of quarterback, you know, quarterback, you can't create what's not there. Yeah. And we, it seems like there's mixed reviews on will johnson you know dj who we

respect a ton uh in his evaluation you know he put out his top 50 i think will johnson was lower wasn't he like in like around 15 something like that and he was just like okay i think that opinions are maybe not as unanimous with will johnson yeah being that top 10 prospect but i mean the tape what he was able to showcase last year I thought was really good stuff so uh talent wise certainly makes sense for the Raiders to be able to add here Jets at number seven no Will Johnson no Mason Graham not great um I will ask you this question now that Aaron Glenn's in the building now that it seems like woody johnson says hey you know what you guys make the decision on aaron rogers and davante adams uh when i asked you this question a month ago so what's the odds that aaron rogers back at quarterback i think you said like one

percent do you think it's still one percent or do you think it's higher here for them to keep aaron rogers and davante ad Adams? I would lean 5%. Okay. All right. I'm just not sure. We're trending? We're trending up? We're going upwards. I'm just not convinced he wants to play right now,

and that's the variable no one's discussing. Okay. And I think that it's a situation that you would, Glenn is going to have to come to him and Muji with a really good plan for him to be like, you know what? Let me put my body through that one more year. Cause he had a lot of injuries this year.

So, um, I, I would lean 5%. I think they're open to it. There's a lot of financial things they have to figure out with the contract. There's so many layers they have to go through. So it's, but the good thing is you can figure out with the contract. There's so many layers they have to go through. So it's,

but the good thing is you can still operate with this pick in the same light, you know, with or without them almost. Yeah. Oh man. So I think it's comes, it comes down to Tetra O McMillan and Malachi starts for me here at number seven.

Is there somebody that I'm not thinking of that I should be thinking of? No. Um, I mean, I wouldn't take Starks at seven personally. Okay. But it's, it's interesting because they really need a safety.

So that's, what's frustrating with it. I just, it's a little early for me. Ted, I think is just, you know, obviously he's probably the,

maybe the best player at a need for them here. I think he's so good, man. Actually is just, you know, obviously, he's probably maybe the best player at a need for them here. I think he's so good, man. Actually, it's, you know, then all the other guys come with different kind of, you know, circumstances. You have to talk, if you think Will Campbell's the best player here, well, the Jets, their interior is really good. So Will Campbell would have to play right tackle, not the position he played this year in college,

because Olu plays left tackle. Morgan Moses is a pending free agent, but they have John Simpson, Joe Tippin, a ABT across the board, their interior. That's like one of the rare strengths of their team. I wonder if,

I wonder if members on the board at this point, I was going to say, if you're talking to O-line, it's members who you're talking about. Yeah. But I think, I think it's very understated how badly wide receiver becomes a need. It does become different, obviously, if Rodgers is back as Devontae is back.

But assuming Rodgers is not, it's Garrett Wilson and no one else. They're going to cut Alan Lazard. Devontae would be cut in that circumstance. Malachi Cordley did nothing last year. They have nothing after Garrett Wilson. Nothing. Yeah, I'll go Ted. Although I did give a good thought to Armand Membu here.

I think this is where his range starts. This is high for him. But if you believe he's his top tackle in the class, which in the offensive tackle rankings, I think you did have him OT1. Yeah. So this is where the conversation starts with him. But I am going to go Ted Terrell and McMillan

for what you mentioned. Worst case scenario, put that in quotations. You have Devante Adams, Tetra on McMillan and Garrett West. Oh no. Oh no. Don't make us. Oh boy. Anyways. Okay. Carolina Panthers here at number eight. Who are you going with?

So this is where it becomes really interesting because now it kind of opens up, it feels like. We got a lot of the heavy hitters off the board. A lot of the heavy hitters that are constantly in the top seven are off the board. Yep. This may or may surprise you. I think this is really fun because it's our first, like,

okay, now we're coming off the Senior Bowl talk. I'm going to take Mike Green here. I did the same thing last night. Let's go. I'm going to take Mike Green here. He was my edge two in our rankings. He had a great week in two practices down there. The Panthers need a pure pass rusher on this front.

I think Green is really now, you're looking at the 8 to 16 range. It's a tight window for him. And I would say something you and I talked about, the many hours we have spent together this week, it feels like the floor for him is the Bucs at 19. I was going to say, Mike Green, in my opinion, is destined for the NFC South.

It's a good thing. He is either getting picked by the Panthers at 8, the Saints at 9, the Falcons at 15, or the Bucs at 19. He's not getting past Tampa Bay Buccaneers at number 19. And he's the hat. He's like the hat. What's the company man hat? What was it, the Rob Lowe hat that just had the nfl logo that's mike green wearing that hat but it's just all

four nfc south logos that's what that's the situation that mike green feels like he's in right now after the senior bowl he needs the nascar jacket but it's just patches of the nfc south teams and logos and he wears it to the draft and he's gonna go off the board to one of them just absolutely calling his shot what if he's drafted what if he gets drafted somewhere else who else who else needs an edge rusher dallas i guess chicago man you gotta be you gotta be sitting there living good if you're mike green and you look at the board and this isn't just a Mike Green combo it's all the pass rushers look at all the teams that need an edge rusher from 8 to 19 it's crazy if you can't get after a passer guess what it's priority for you you better fix it no doubt yeah Mike Green had a had a big week down there, and the grades coming in on him are very high right now.

That puts me on the clock with the Saints at number nine. I mean, this is definitely an edge rush spot for them, defensive line in general, like really whoever your best defensive lineman is here at this point. So this is just, we probably should have said this at the very top. I'm doing this a little bit more as a what I think would happen type of a mock draft we're doing this is more what we think would happen uh because we're reacting to sort of not only what we saw over the

last week at Shrine and Senior but also what we heard and this is this is the part where we have a lot of our own evaluation that we do during the college football season and certainly in December and January as we put out these early rankings but now we get to hear okay well what does the league believe on this so we'll try to be more transparent about like okay we're doing this exercise is what we think versus what we would do i'm doing this as a more what i think would happen here we don't know who the head coach is in the New Orleans Saints as we are recording this podcast. It's pretty unbelievable. That goes into it. I'm going to take Shamar Stewart, the edge rusher from Texas A&M. Another guy who had a really good week at the Senior Bowl.

He had the highest practice grade of any player at the Senior Bowl, a 93.8 because we do grade the practice footage at PFF as well, a 94.1 pass rush grade uh and his run defense grade was lower but like he already had great tape as a run defender this year when he was playing for texas a&m we wanted to see what he was like as a pass rusher he still predominantly wins as an athlete but oh man just so much to bet on with this guy i think the nfl is going to love him um and i think that there is absolutely a shot for him to go in the top 10 so i'm going to take him at number nine here for the new orleans saints him and mike green after the second practice were like the meme of jack harlow

and drewski in the car with the music on and they're like life like this sure is sweet, huh? As they pulled out of Mobile, Alabama. They said, fuck this. That is perfect. That is so perfect for what it was. Life sure is sweet, huh? I don't know. Oh, man. All right, Chicago at 10. You're up.

All right, so the Bears at 10. Fun. Two pass rushers just went after I said I'd love to see the Bears get a pass rusher. Listen. Get ready to learn O-line, buddy. Get ready to learn O-line, buddy. And it's a pretty good scenario. Take Will Campbell.

Take Will Campbell and find a spot for him to settle into on your offensive line. And why I say that, and it's a little bit of a cop-out, is I want to see what the Bears do in free agency because they are a team that can kind of play around with guys moving around and figuring out what spots are going to be open going into the draft and the whole question that's always constantly a conversation is you know Braxton Jones the locked in left tackle or do you want to upgrade and make him more of a swing guy what's the interior

going to look like I think the interior needs help I think Will Campbell just gives you a foundational piece on this offensive line I I am in the camp that he's a guard but I think he's the best offensive lineman in the draft I you you know I've gone on this rant before I I'd love if he could play center for you I think I mean he would be an unbelievable center. I think if Will Campbell's playing center for you, if you tell me he's got the flexibility to really be able to sit down and get that wide base because he plays with a narrow, very upright base right now, but it might just be what he's taught at LSU because Emory Jones on the other side does the same thing.

So if the flexibility is not an issue for him, he could really get down and snap the football and stay low and get that pad level down a little bit more. I i mean this is a guy who can make all sorts of protection calls for you um if you guys don't already uh go check out uh brandon thornton's it is great um over at his his his stub his sub stack he had will campbell on and they were breaking down his film and just will is just so smart man i mean just he's again he's the kind of guy that you want in the middle of your offensive line,

recognizing where the defense is aligned, making some adjustment calls. I mean, you talk about, we talk about tight ends or a running game or a top wide receiver being a quarterback's best friend. Sometimes it's the dude in front of him

that he's taking snaps from. Yeah. Sometimes the center. And so I love this Will Campbell pick here, number 10. San Francisco 49ers. I'm going to go with a pick that I think we're sort of trending

in this direction again I think this is the top of where this guy could go in terms of range but love the fit phenomenal fit one of my favorite fits that will probably do in this entire mock draft and that is Jaday Barron the corner slash just overall defensive back from Texas going into San Francisco 49ers here at number 11 Robert Sala playing more of a zone cover three heavy type of a defense whether Barron is playing in a slot whether he's playing on the outside whether he's playing some safety reps for you like him as a zone corner we saw all the forced incompletions that he was able to get over the last couple of years and the interceptions that he was able to get this past year I I believe he led the SEC in interceptions.

And it's his first year playing full-time on the outside. So you see there's zone coverage grade of 91.8 on the screen. I mean, this dude is fantastic. So I think he's a perfect fit for what Robert Sala wants to do and how he wants to deploy his coverages. So now back as the DC for San Francisco, I'm going Jaday Barron here at number 11. All right, Barron at 11. That's definitely the earliest we've had him so far 12 the cowboys i'm not going to take ashton genti um as much as you know genti is just clearly one of the best

players in the draft i think dallas can maybe double up on running back later in this draft and kind of rebuild this thing. Now, I look at this group and go, man, maybe you should just take the best offensive lineman available. And for me, in this spot, that is going to be Membu. Okay. So I just think it upgrades if you just slot him into right tackle. It's an upgrade right away. You could see it unless you want to start to flip guys around.

But this is best offensive lineman available, you know, tier for me. And I think Membu is worth a top 15 pick. I think he played himself into that this year, as we've talked about. Yeah, didn't get to practice at the Senior Bowl due to a stomach flu. So he wasn't able to be out there because he was sick. Obviously, if you're sick and you're not playing well, there are some dogs on the other side of the line of scrimmage that don't give a damn that you're not feeling well

and that you're under the weather. So you don't want to go out there if you're not 100%. Obviously, would have respected if he tried to tough it out. But I understand him not wanting to get out there if he was not 100%. So it was a bummer that we didn't get to see him this week. Was really excited about that. But he is still, I agree with you, a really good offensive tackle and a first round offensive tackle.

Miami Dolphins, I think that we do this selection a lot. I just don't know if I can really go away from it unless we learn something in free agency. Kelvin Banks Jr., if he is here, this is somebody who, he could play offensive tackle for you but he's also a little bit shorter in height so he's got that natural pad level if you want to play him at guard and specifically for Miami having the speed that Kelvin Banks Jr. does the offensive tackle from from Texas by the way having that speed to be a puller and for zone blocking for

zone blocking plays and all that like that it's, I think that is ideal for what Miami wants to do. You can see his zone grade here is 81.5 this past season. Pass blocking grade was all the way up to an 89.8 this past year. He's a really good offensive lineman wherever you're going to play him. Got a really bright future in the NFL, and Miami, I think, has tried to ignore their offensive line or not prioritize it too much over the last few years.

And it's time to pay the bills. It's time to eat your vegetables. If you will, let's invest in the old line at 13 here. Yeah. The dolphins, they, they could really use that advice.

I mean, you're a team that wants to establish the run and wants to protect to, you know, go get the premium ingredients for this offensive line. However, the board falls 14, the Colts. I know maybe people are sick of it, but I'm taking Tyler Warren. I just, I just think it's a great fit for him.

I think it's a need. He's going to help you play heavy. Good luck stopping a run game where you have Anthony Richardson as a threat as a runner, Jonathan Taylor, a threat as a runner, and then Tyler Warren with the ability to play on the line of scrimmage, block in the run game, but to play on the line of scrimmage block in the run game but also release off the line of scrimmage and run the seam for you this would be I think this has a chance to be one of the best red zone offenses in the NFL if you have Richardson's running Jonathan Taylor's running and then the red zone threat of Warren Pittman downs as a, Pierce. We'll see what they can get from Mitchell. I like this fit.

I'm not going to go away from it. It basically puts all of the pressure on Anthony Richardson. If not, if the pressure was not already all on Anthony Richardson because there's just no excuses then at that point. I mean, if Richardson can't give you the consistency that you want in the offense, they'll find somebody else who can. I think it's tempting with Malachi Starks here. Even if you didn't love him, sort of in the top 10, around

the top 5. Him at number 15, I think is a high-impact player for them at a position that they really need. So I think Malachi's also in that conversation. But you're right, Warren, just after the year that he's had and how he's going to be viewed by the NFL, it's hard to think that he's going to get past the Colts here at number 14.

15 is the Atlanta Falcons. They need edge rush help. They need that go-to edge rusher. We got a good one here on the board in James Pierce Jr., and I'm very comfortable taking him here. I'm just sort of looking at my other options because, you know, they could use a corner. Benjamin Morrison's here.

Trey Amos and savon revel these guys could be options for them yeah it feels a smidge early doesn't it i can hear in your i can hear it in your voice well it is just because it's like i love revel but you're coming off an acl tear and and the whole the position is just based off of you being a great athlete and his entire explosive his entire uh profile is based off of him being a great athlete so if you tell me like all right well we're 100 getting that back then yeah we talk about him in the top 20 but little hesitant there i dude i i would honestly think about going walton on because of how good he was this week at the Senior Bowl. Right. But they did just draft a bunch of guys like Oro Oro last year. Oh, the Oregon dude.

Dude, come on. You got to help me. Brandon Dorlis, thank you. Oh, sorry. I didn't help at all. Braylon Trice as well, who I think might be, you know, more of that like interior rusher or, you know, he might be just- They've tried. Three, four.

They kind of did, right? They tried to have their cake. tried to try for years they tried to have their cake and eat it too last year by drafting pennix at eight when they could have drafted jared verse they could have drafted layout to law too they drafted pennix and obviously it turned out to be a smart decision there for them but then they went okay d-line d-line d-line d-line immediately they still need that premier guy, though. Yeah. I think James Pierce Jr. is that dude. I don't know.

I don't think he's that dude. He'd be the one I'd take here. Yeah. There's not anybody else that I would get away from here. He's the one-on-one winner. He's the explosive guy. He gives them a pass. We're sure they don't have on that team yet.

So I'm going to go James Pierce Jr. at 15. You're up, Cardinals, 16. Cardinals at 16. You know, a lot of different directions they can go. Dude, this could be a Walter Nolan spot. This actually very well could be a Walter Nolan spot. Yeah, this is tricky, this one. This is the first one.

He was great. I mean, he showed this week at the Senior Bowl, he showed that he is just a better athlete than everybody else is. That's always been the case with him, right? It's just as a recruit, as a college player. Yep. And I remember you were with me on this. Over summer, I think we were both very underwhelmed by Nolan.

The 2023 tape is very unpolished. And to his credit i saw significant jumps this year where at 16 i i think that yeah i think that's actually this is the route i'm gonna go because it gives them explosiveness at interiority line it's not like they're just taking this hulking and they could also use a two gapping run stuffer as well it just kind of needs a makeover this interior unit and we'll see what they get on the edge from ojalary getting healthy next year i could see them adding another edge pass rusher as well um you know to kind of round out that group

but yeah i'm with you it's a good call on nolan i think he's he's another guy that's just trending upwards it ended up being a really good decision, him going to the senior bowl, just because like you said, Trevor at his size, you see the athleticism that he has. Yep. So no one to 16. All right. Halfway through the mock,

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Limited time offer. See terms of DraftKings. Pick6.DraftKings.com slash promos. All right, Bengals at 17. Sneaky. Sneaky. I like Tyler Warren here if he makes it 17. Sorry, partner.

That could be sick. Yeah, you know. Could have had it. Maybe we'll switch it up. Bengals fans, go after Con. Don't go after me. I was trying to... Yeah, I screwed you.

Yeah, you did. You did. You did. Make sure you never forget that. No matter how bad this knock-out pick is. So, Malachi Starks, I think, is an easy one for me.

I'm sort of scrolling to see if there's anybody else that really... I mean, Hashigenti? I mean, like, I love i love chase brown i do i think bangles fans will find a way to kill you i think he's i think he's a good back but like genti being here at 17 it's just it's something that i think that you would think about depending on what happens with t higgins luther burn the third still on the board here at number 17 a A really good football player. I think that could be an excellent

pick for them. I would have thought about Walter Nolan if he was here. You think about Michael Williams, sure. I think it gives you a better edge presence, but he's not really the pass rusher that you want. Maybe Jack Sawyer is. Maybe Nick Skorton could be. I think Texas A&M had Skorton playing a little bit

heavier than what he was when he was at Purdue. I think he loses a little bit of weight. He gets a little bit faster. He might trend back up if he has the right combine. I think so too, man. Again, the more I sit on it, I'm like, man, if he just gets down to 265 and gets closer to the Purdue version, I don't want to forget how much we loved that guy this summer.

I am 100% with you, man. I don't know if it was maybe a him thing, like he wanted to carry a little bit more weight, like he thought he needed to play with a little bit more strength at Texas A&M. Maybe it was a Texas A&M thing, but he looked like he was playing bigger this past year, and he just, he was not that same

disruptive type of a player. But the year before, yeah, I mean, he was excellent. I talked, he was excellent. I don't know, Jim. I'm going to go with Malachi Starks. I think Starks is too good of a football player. I think you can change things for your coverage. I think you can change things on the back end for you. And I just think it is still an area of safety.

It's got to be a major upgrade for the Bengals, and let's not forget how good Malachi was in his freshman and sophomore years when he was at Georgia. So I'll go Malachi starts here at 17. All right, Seattle is on the clock at 18. No, we got another ad read. No, I'm just kidding. That would have been amazing if you just back-pocketed one.

I tricked all of you, and you fell for it. We do have another ad. I couldn't have done it. I couldn't have done it. I couldn't have done it. That would have been just so diabolical. Love you Seahawks fans. Seattle here is a little bit of a weird one, right? Because typically we really like to,

they had interior offensive line problems this year that are well documented. I do think as much as I always take one here for them i do think they can also fix this on day two of the draft i think there's like very helpful guards on day two of this draft assuming that in this scenario calvin banks will campbell membu they're all gone and my other top offensive lineman i look at conor lee and simmons as real tackles i'm not moving abe lucas or charles cross no right now no i mean you may be worried about the long-term health with abe lucas that's a big one but he but he said after the season, he's like, I feel great. He's like, I feel as good as I have in a while, which is great,

which obviously is very good for them. Right. I want to look at what kind of edge they could possibly need. I know they've gotten more production. They're like, boy, I feel like Boye Mafe has been trending the right way. He's been better. Absolutely. Yeah, he's been better for them.

I mean, Skorton would. That's who I'm looking at. Great for them, I think. Yeah, that's kind of where I've landed is that. Dude, that could be a nasty for as well as Leonard Williams played this past year. He was great. Byron Murphy will be even better. Yep.

Yeah, I'm going to go Skorton. And in my ideal world, I'd like him to play at more 265 on this front and even get some wider chances. And he obviously can set the edge for you. There's just a lot he could do in this front and Seattle fans. It's

a two rounder, so don't worry. We're going to get that into your offensive line, right? We'll get there, but that's the beauty of this one today. Like you have two chances to fix things. I know we got to speed things up and we're going to be here. Yeah, we do. We're going to get that into your offensive line, right? We'll get there. That's the beauty of this one today. Like you have two chances to fix things. I know we got to speed things up or we're going to be here. Yeah, we do. We're doing the thing we always do. Oh yeah.

We're going to do, we're going to be really quick. We're going to be really quick with the first round. You've already heard the first rounders. Like here's idiots. Absolute idiots run this show. It's what happens when you get two narcissists do a podcast and just love to hear each other talk. It's true i got a great idea for the cowboys at 12 that no one's thought of the buccaneers up at number 19 uh all the heavy hitters i think are gone great for me

thanks you really love to see this uh they need edge rusher and cornerback pretty badly uh could have settled for Malachi Starks, but even he is gone. Let me think here. That makes the most sense for the Bucs. H.A. almost would be a really good pick for them. At least Devon Revell would be a good pick.

I think Devon Donovan as a rocket would also be a good pick, but not a 19. Maybe Jihad Campbell, but there's, there's good linebacker. We got some, we got some linebackers that are coming, coming out of the woodwork here in this class that I, that I think you don't, you don't have to take one in round one. Cedar Watson would also be sick. Man. I think it's got to come down to one of these edge rushers that's here i think you either got to see what i mean it's just it's like every time you look a team needs a pass rusher i think i

think you got to either take a chance on michael williams think he's going to become a better pass rusher um like love the run defense that you get from him pass rush grade was just low again this past year yep they also didn't really do what they said they were going to do by playing them as a stand-up outside linebacker i feel like i didn't see that nearly as much no sawyer's been good i think that that's definitely an option for them hmm oh man um i'm to go with Savon Revell. Okay. From East Carolina.

I'm hoping the knee's back to 100%. Guy who's got really good ball skills, really good athleticism. I mean, if you have Revell, I keep saying his name all different ways. It's Savon Revell. You got this. You had it right the first time. Did I really? Did I really?

Yeah, Savon Revell. Okay. As far as I know, hopefully I'm not the idiot. I think that might be wrong, but I don't know. I know it's Savon. All right, Savon Ravel. Maybe. Going to the Bucs here at number 19.

Him and Zion McCollum on the outside. It'd be a sick athletic quarterback duo, and they really need it, whether or not they move on from Juventus or not. You're up with the Broncos at number 20. You wanted out of that so fast. Yeah, yeah, get me out. All right, Broncos.

That was my elimination chamber. Broncos at 20. I'm going to take Colston Loveland here. Obviously, you could go a couple different directions at wide receiver with Burden on the board, Ibuka on the board, but this is a fit that we've really liked. Loveland is just such a difference-making pass-catching tight end

that can play on the line of scrimmage. I think it fits the concepts that Sean Payton loves to run with tight ends on the field. Good matchup with Bo Nix. They're going to be looking to get Bo more help through the air in this draft. Obviously, the connection makes a lot of sense with how much sean payton has emphasized the tight end uh passing game since his tie back with new orleans pittsburgh sealers up at number 21 they need cornerback badly they also need wide

receiver badly this one basically comes down to matthew golden yep and mecca buka benjamin morrison oh wait a second. Luther Burden III. Yeah, I was going to say, don't skip that. Yeah, I'm dumb. Dumb. Luther Burden III. Couldn't have been easier.

I'm sprinting the card in. I'm handing the card to Usain Bolt, and he's going to break his own record to get this card to Roger Goodell to read off the name Luther Burden III. Burden would, in my opinion, lead the Steelers in receiving, receiving like every receiving category next year, even with George Pickens on the team who I like. Remember I've been, I've been day one, George Pickens, good wide receiver at the NFL level.

If they had Luther burden, doesn't even matter what quarterbacks on this team, he would lead the Steelers in basically every receiving category next year as a rookie. I use a stud and a yak king. And I think that'll continue with the NFL level. Type of receiver they really, really need. 22, the Chargers. Take a national genti.

Yeah, you better. You better. We would have fist fought. Yeah, I mean, listen, Harbaugh developing a heavy run game, get the best running back in this draft. Just unbelievable picturing him in this offense, the balance, the physical edge he plays with. He fits the identity of what they want this team to be. The Packers are on the clock at number 23. I think the obvious one for them is either Trey Amos or Benjamin Morrison at the cornerback spot

because they need to be a lot better at corner. So until we see them do that in the pro market, I mean, even Jair Alexander, I feel like is up in the air for this team moving forward. Oh, very much so. There's a lot of issues going on there. But for as much as this team sort of boasted in the offseason oh we don't have a number one wide receiver we've got like you know four number one wide receivers and all this kind of stuff nobody's really a number one receiver for them it's kind of just it's a group and you

want them to be great collectively and sometimes they are but i think through stretches even through a successful season in the win-loss column there were plenty of times when it was like all right backs against the wall who we throw in the ball to and i like jayden reed the most out of these guys right but like christian watson's gone through injuries romeo dobbs has gone through injuries. Romeo Dobbs has gone through injuries. Dontavian Wicks has stretches where he looks great, but then he can't catch. Luke Musgrave didn't really develop into the tight end that you wanted him to at a level where you have a great two tight end passing game

because Tucker Kraft is great. And I think he's clearly the tight end one of that team. But what's Luke Musgrave is going to be for you? All of a sudden, I think a year, well, seven months from when we were talking about this team during the summer, it was like, oh, yeah, this offense is absolutely stacked everywhere. And it's like, oh, they've got names. Do they have a player that they could go to?

It makes me want to pick a Mechik Buka for this team. Or Matthew Gould, at least, right? I mean, because Matthew might give you a little bit more juice if you want that fine but i think the packers need a guy who could be a go-to passing weapon for them in all situations and that's a megabooka to me and i'm going to take him at 23 for for the green bay very curious as to what packers fans think of that rant that i just went on and this pick of a book at 23 he's a perfect wide receiver for them i mean he's he's got the athleticism. He's been asked to do so much as a blocker for them. He's a good route runner, a polished route runner. He's reliable. And I don't know if their receivers have been reliable, honestly. So I think that's a home run

24, the Vikings on the clock here. Don't do it do this is where you'd like corner help okay all right what were you thinking no you can do that no you can do that no i want to know what you're thinking no you're you're a really smart analyst i really respect your work uh i love where you were going you should keep going that way but where were you going i'll tell you in about 60 seconds oh oh man that's good that's the good stuff that's showbiz baby and that is why i don't no no no no no no no i don't think you're wrong about corner by the way i just didn't want you to snipe the player that i'm gonna take a 25 yeah no i'm i'm probably gonna take kenneth grant here um oh i was hoping that that was who you were taking i was trying to be a smart ass no no no the more i look at this though as much as i know they need a corner there's still time because we

didn't even do corners for this show again yet we did them over summer and a lot has changed. I don't know how comfortable I am with Amos in this spot. And I say that being serious. I don't know. I think it'll be close. The frustrating one that we'll just keep hammering home. Like we just don't know anything about Benjamin Morrison's hip. If we had the green light on his hip, this is he's not even probably here. Right, right.

But we don't know i guess the point is though you do reach a you know you gotta have the guy come off the board eventually kind of situation he declared yeah he did so you would hope that means he feels confident before the combine he's going to get the green light i i would certainly hope so because if that hip is really going to go into the combine and pro days and into his rookie year of his career but in the nfl i i don't know man i feel like i would have gone back and be like okay let's make sure we get this thing right yep because the it's it's not like you're gonna hide it right it's not like you're gonna hide it from not a hit for a corner a corner. You're going to do all the medical rechecks of the combine.

Teams are going to ask you all about it. Obviously, that's the number one thing in bold at the very top of there. What do we need to know about Benjamin Morrison? Every team in the NFL is going to figure this out. So I certainly hope that he got the right advice. And it's like, all right, yeah, no, you'll be good to go. You'll be all good. You'll be able to run.

You'll be able to showcase your movement abilities, all that. Because if it's going to linger and if it's going to be way beyond the the draft season if you will um yeah i'd get worried about where he's going to get drafted so i'm going to take kenneth grant here i just i don't i there's a lot of variables with the corners on the board and i don't feel that way with grant who has such good a feat for his size he could play heavy for you in that front i think they need defensive tackle help yeah i i would agree with you as well um i think that that makes sense you know they the vikings could have gone to direction at number 24 for the direction that i'm going to go here at number 25 i'm taking gray's able okay so i'm from north dakota I mean, one of the biggest winners of the week, this dude was an absolute beast at the senior bowl.

And we went into this whole exercise saying like, all right, we're going to pay a lot of attention to gray's able because not only does North Dakota state have a good pipeline of offensive linemen that they have sent to the NFL over the last five, six years, it's championship winning program. He played tackle,

played right and left tackle over the last two, six years, his championship winning program. He played tackle, played right and left tackle over the last two years here for this team. And we knew that he was going to kick inside. We're like, all right, well, he's going to be a guard. He's going to be a center. Like some people like him as center, all that. He played center. He played guard.

He played right guard. He played left guard on day one of senior bowl practices. And I did not see him lose a rep, not one. Now, obviously, he lost some reps as the week went on but he looked phenomenal he looked so good in person so so fantastic so pro ready on the interior even for not really playing it a lot over the last couple of years that my takeaway from his performance in the senior bowl is we need to be talking about this dude the same way we talked about graham bart last year guess where Graham Barton went last year's draft 26 guess right Texans pick 25 this is the range people we're talking late first round early second round got no problem with one of

these teams specifically the Houston Texans whose interior offensive line was not only not good enough a literal kryptonite for this team when it came down to them making the playoffs and them getting into the playoffs and then playing against the Kansas City Chiefs. They were no match. They were no match because Kansas City knew exactly how to attack them because that was such a weakness for them.

So until they address those things in free agency, which I do think that they will, I'm taking Graze Abel here at number 25 for the Houston Texans. I mean, listen, it's hard to argue anybody made themselves more money on a scale of where they were going into the week versus where they are now. The Rams at 26, both top tight ends off the board. Another team that could probably use some help in the secondary. Kind of curious the long term of this offensive line.

I know they've spent a lot of money on the interior going forward, despite the Jonah Jackson signing not really working out. I wonder how they view left tackle right now. Yeah. Is my big question. Yeah, I think that's a question mark for them for sure i i think long long term that there's that's definitely a question alaric jackson is a free agent yeah so that's a big variable and i'm not saying you won't be able to bring him back but

i think i'm gonna take josh simmons here this is one where if you just go by the sample of what you got before he got hurt, you could argue that he was the best pure tackle going into this draft, but he got hurt. Yeah. And it just, that's just how it is. And really good tape.

He has some really, really good tape and he's a smooth mover and he's got the build for tackle that not a lot of guys have in this class. So I'm going to go with Simmons here. And maybe they bring back an Aleric Jackson, and maybe they kind of give Simmons the time that he might need. Well, I think that they could certainly bring back Jackson. Maybe Rams fans know differently.

But, you know, Havenstein is also, like, what, 32, 33 years old? So, I mean, you're pretty much setting up a situation where Simmons can recover from that knee injury into his rookie season. You don't have to throw him out there right away. also like what 32 33 years old so i mean you're pretty much setting up a situation where simmons can recover from that knee injury into his rookie season you don't have to throw him out there right you're getting a discount then yeah i mean it's it's it's a long-term play for them and um and i do like it do like it ravens at 27 edge rusher on the table for them maybe tackle on the table for them depending on what happens with Ronnie Stanley. That is certainly true.

Man, it felt like their offense was so good this year. Like wide receiver, I'd like to get, like Matthew Golden. I love the idea of Matthew Golden with the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, I thought of that too. I think it's a really good pick for them in terms of just overall talent need. Certainly.

I mean like Lamar, you know, like back-to-back MVP type of a player, even without a Matthew golden. So, you know, he's one Mark Andrews catch. I don't mean to say that's like call out Mark Andrews,

but he's one Mark Andrews catching a two point conversion. I'm tying that up and maybe they're still playing right now. Jack Sawyer could make sense for this team. Josh Connerly could make sense for this team. Right. Connerly might be the guy. I'm checking something really quick with the Ravens. Yeah, you got Rosengarten at right.

You got Stanley, who's a free agent oldest stanley too and it's kind of it's kind of a bad scenario for the ravens because stanley's missed a bunch of time on that huge deal and now it's like oh last year the deal i played all the games you know and it's never fails perfect timing for it obviously Obviously great for Ronnie Stanley. I'm not, I'm not trying to say anything negative there, but it puts the Ravens in obviously an interesting situation of what you're going to do here. You know what? I am going to draft Josh Connerly and I'm going to draft Connerly and say,

Hey, you might be an interior offensive line upgrade for us before we need to kick you out to left tackle, depending on if they could bring Ronnie Stanley back. And if they do bring Ronnie Stanleyley back it's probably only on what like a two three year deal yeah i mean maybe i mean i think the ravens will probably only give him a two three year deal maybe elsewhere he might be able to get a four depending on what teams believe in him but connerly i thought i had a really good week of practice outside of one

very bad rep against mike green but i think that right. It's amazing how that like defines him now. You gotta, you gotta remember too. He was playing right tackle for yes. Great call. That's a great call. And, and Max Chadwick pointed this out when we,

when we were doing the mock draft over at, at PFS channel, Josh Connelly's only ever played left tackle. So they put them over at right tackle because that's what you do at the senior bowl. You put guys in these different situations and the footwork's a little bit different. The timing,

the balance is a little different. And Mike Green knew that and Mike Green just ran straight through his chest. So good for Mike Green, but it's definitely much more of a praise of Mike Green than a negative on Connerly. He's still a really good offense attack. I'll take it him at 27. I'm really glad you said that because I think people overreact to one play in a negative light towards the player that the players in a you know a green

who i love as much as anyone was in an advantageous situation and he took advantage of it which is what you want to see right that doesn't mean connerly falls around i saw people that were like oh it doesn't seem like connerly is having a good week it's like well they're putting him in uncomfortable positions to kind of bring the most out of them and i i i try what i like the biggest takeaway of connerly is the jump that i saw from him from 2023 2024 the senior bowl yeah there's some good some bad but that to me is the big takeaway from connerly and how much you should like him moving forward the lions at 28 this is a team that i think they need more help on the edge across from Aiden Hutchinson.

This is kind of the, like, how do I think it'll go versus how I would prefer it to go. It's hard to just see Mike Cal Williams falling further than this as much as I'm lower on him because of the lack of impact. I mean, Dan Campbell could look at this guy, Brad Holmes and Ray Agnew could look at this guy brad holmes and ray agnew could look at this guy

and go man we know we're getting a high floor run defender from day one and we're going to tap into the pass rush traits across from aiden yep let's take him at 28 yep i'm with you i did this would be my pick for them as much as i think the jack sawyer, Aiden Hutchinson storyline, you know, enemies to best friends, Hollywood, Disney movie. Yeah. It's hard to deny. I think that Mike L. Williams is going to be pretty high on their board because of what he can do. Like you said, it's certainly against the run.

And he's built like an alien, it feels like. The commanders here at number 29 edge tackle wide receiver Sawyer I think makes a lot of sense for this team got no problem taking him if you take Amos you can actually kick Mike Samuels still back inside like Donovan as a rock who could potentially be an option for this team if they like that savviness more of a stand-up pass rusher and yeah Matthew Golden's here and he's he's a stud right I don't know if I like any of the tackle options that we have left. I feel like we had a good run on the tackles. No, because I think Ozzie Trapillo had a good week at the Senior Bowl, but I don't think I'm taking him at 29.

I'll go Jack Sawyer. Let's go Jack Sawyer here. Need a little bit more juice on the defensive line. I guess I could have been Ben Morrison too. Yeah. We're still kind of, you know, figuring that out. Yeah, I'll go Jack Sawyer. We'll go Jack Sawyer here at number 29 for the Washington

Commanders who need to continue to make sure the defensive line is what it is. And he can be go-to passers for him. So Bills at 30. You're up. Alright, the Bills at 30. You know, they've really built up this offensive line. They got to go ahead. Go ahead.

No, go ahead. I was just going to say, I feel like we're, we're getting so much closer to like D line being the, the target for them. Interior. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I know you could almost go both ways with Vaughn getting up there. Right. In age. It's just a matter of you know what you think is left here that you would take for that spot like is this too early for TJ Sanders probably a smidge probably a smidge good senior bowl though good day one I should say with all

the injuries they had do you think they go back to the willett corner because they just don't want to play kairi elam whenever somebody gets hurt i mean he's bad yeah it just hasn't worked what what really sucks about kairi elam is i think that he's a really talented corner who is mentally broken right now yep Yep, it's a confidence issue. And I watched that firsthand with Vernon Hargraves when he was with the Buccaneers. Oh, yeah. They couldn't get Hargraves to play closer than seven yards to the line of scrimmage.

And trust his legs. Because he did not have any confidence. And when he was, well, they could get him to play press, like true press, but he just, he was not able to adjust against NFL level explosiveness and strength off the line of scrimmage. And then when it came to, okay, well, we'll put you more in zone.

He didn't feel comfortable when he couldn't get hands on guys. He didn't feel comfortable with his recovery speed and how he could match those players. So it just feels like he is a in no man's land type of a situation right now. And I feel when I watched Kyrie Elam come in the game against the Chiefs, I was like, damn, I've heard in Hargrave's flashbacks, which unfortunately, I'm contractually obligated to say,

he had a great contractually obligated. Yeah, I think it's something to think about. I really do. If I was going that road. Oh, you know what? I actually take this back. OK, you know who we have not taken yet? We haven't taken Jalen Walker yet.

Oh, it's true. It's true. We have not taken Jalen Walker yet. Let me be fair like it's everything's a little all over the place with jaylen walker right now because the pure idea of like what he could be is really fun but there's also the question of sometimes people really like him as a pass rusher but he's not really built like a traditional pass rusher obviously played a lot of linebacker for Georgia this is the type of athlete that I think Sean McDermott would like in the middle of his defense Milano came back this year he is getting a little older

and very banged up I wonder if this is a fit for Walker if he fell because maybe he gives you a little juice off the edge on passing downs or it's like a blitzer but they do play him off the ball on early downs and they feel like the type of athlete he is allows them to have a three down player here could could yeah so I'll go I'll go Jalen Walker which is a little bit different for the Bills because they're just not used to having him available here um and I think it's it's not out of the range of outcomes that they look to get a little younger in the middle of outcomes that they look to get a little younger in the middle of the field in this spot with a guy that plays can do different roles for

you eagles at 31 i mean you know what do you do with the eagles um it's good living they're yeah they're they're a team that's basically stacked in in every single spot. Well, let me throw something at you. All right. Makai Becton on a one-year deal. Yep. I think that it's worked out for the Eagles as much as you could on a one-year deal. I think he's had jaw-dropping moments as a run blocker. I think he is still a problem in pass bro, in my opinion. Like when you really watch him,

is that just a spot where they go hey let's just you know beckon's gonna go get paid somewhere a little more than what we're comfortable with we got what we needed to out of this deal do we look to bring in somebody to that spot uh so are you saying this is where tyler booker comes off the board that would be the guy that you would think of right away. Probably. Especially the Eagles. It's their type. And I don't hate it. Certainly because I think we've been a little bit lower

just as a collective here on NFL SE on Tyler Booker. And I don't think that we think that he's a bad football player. But some people talk about Tyler um tyler booker is like one of the top players in the class i know dj again bringing up his his top 50 in his mock draft his recent mock draft he had tyler booker going 10 to the chicago bears and wow and if this is a what we would do mock um dj said in his little blurb is like hey you know they talk about this guy as if he's you know and i think this was dj who said this i might be getting this mixed up but i had heard this somewhere like the alabama talks about tyler booker like he's, and I think this was TJ who said this, I might be getting this mixed up, but I had heard this somewhere.

Like Alabama talks about Tyler Booker, like he's the Will Anderson Jr. of their offensive line in terms of like, this is an NFL player from how he approaches the game, how smart he is, how talented he is, all that kinds of stuff. So I don't hate that idea for the Philadelphia Eagles to get a player like this in there especially because you know Lane Johnson's not getting any younger either not that I think that he's imminently getting out of there because he was one of the best tackles if not the best tackle in the game this

past season but you just think about always wanting to make sure that you're where you need to be along the offensive line so I'll go Tyler Booker here I don't have a problem with that Tyler Booker 31 I think it's a great fit I only did one big board this year so far for nbc and it was back in the first week of september i had booker 23rd we didn't redo guards yet um so i'm curious to see where he lands if i when i do another big board which will be soon because we're going to be getting closer to reevaluating all position rankings yeah but that that is pretty eye-opening dj had him at 10th yeah that's a that's a range of outcomes that i didn't have written down yeah because i can't remember where he had him on his top 50 but like dj's whole thing

uh and it's really it's a really great reminder he says i do rankings with my eyes yep i do mock drafts in my ears and i don't remember exactly where he had Booker independently, like from his own studies, but having him 10 means that he's heard from probably multiple places that Tyler Booker is very highly regarded around NFL circles. Right. The grades are just really high on him. Yeah.

Chiefs at 32. You're up. Chiefs at 32, you're up. Chiefs at 32. Oh, man, it's a little tricky, this one, right? Because we had a pretty good run on offensive linemen. Yeah, yeah, nobody really made it to them. I wonder if... I wonder, because I feel like Ursary had a pretty good...

I was just going to say, we say nobody made it to them, but it feels like we were starting to get a little full feel like Ursary had a pretty good I was just gonna say no we say nobody made it to them but it feels like we were starting to get a little full circle with Ursary where like if you talk to people coming out of summer Ursary was a guy that people thought could sneak into the end of round one and now after senior well it feels like Ursary's back to being a guy that could sniff round one and if you're the chiefs he has all the size that you could want as a tackle he's played a lot of football for minnesota he moves well at his size it's i mean this would be the guy i would take out of the guys that are left for sure yeah because i think i think a lot of the other guys are guards yeah if you want

offensive line definitely yeah i'm gonna go with ursery here and uh because you know this is an interesting one because are the chiefs gonna stick toony at tackle long term now and just try to take the best player i think they'd like to need to slide back to guard yes and they'll fit and they'll figure out this tackle situation in the offseason yeah i would agree with you all right that's round one down obviously we don't need to list off all the round one picks we'll talk about them as we get in around two here but before we get to that i got a question for you guys what does your child's future success look like to you maybe it's a job they're very passionate about maybe it's traveling the world maybe it's just them being comfortable and happy whatever that looks like uh you can help them make that easier to achieve with the Kids Investment Account from Fabric by Gerber Life.

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Simulator and the Cleveland Browns here start things out at number 33. I went with Abdul Carter for them at number, or you went with Abdul Carter for them at number 2 or you went with Abdul Carter for them at number two overall. Quarterback obviously still an issue-ish for this team. I think I'm going to go Omari and Hampton here. This is a team that needs to be so much better on the ground.

Yeah, it's their identity. Obviously, we're hoping that Nick Chubb, it's a great story that Nick Chubb's even made it back, right? I mean, that in and of itself is worth the clap, the standing ovation, all of that. But moving forward, I think they need that go-to running back to be able to win. Worth the clap.

What did I say? Nothing. Just a funny phrase. It's worth the standing ovation. You know? He wasn't the Nick Chubb of old, but he got back out there. It's worth the clap. Go on. Go on. I wasn't even trying for that one.

Look, Omarion Hampton, I think, is one of the best backs in this class. And if we didn't have Ashton Gent to here, I think we'd be talking about this football player as a special one and somebody that you would consider in the first round. We probably should be anyway. So Hampton's unbelievable. He's built like an NFL back. He's great in pass protection as well.

You can see the rushing grades, the overall grades there on the screen, 88.7 in 2023, 88.2 in 2024. So that's with and without Drakeke may this guy was a monster so i'm gonna go with hampton for the uh for the browns 33 yeah no argument there i mean that's worth the clap that's worth the clap that's uh walking out of the draft with abdul carter and amari and hampton is like we just became the coolest team getting off the bus in the world yeah I mean you better you better you better throw some more caddies in the uh in the workout facility because I mean you're gonna run out you're gonna if these if these two are in the building same time as Miles Garrett I mean you're gonna run out of 45 so you better print some more

totally insane all right the Giants here at 34 you know this to me is actually where let's take the risk for benjamin morrison right oh nice yeah it's appropriate yeah yeah this is if the hip checks out we think he's gonna get back to normal i think deontay banks has been a little disappointing there i think true phillips as we've talked about on this show, played way above expectations. I still think the Giants need another corner for the long term, and Morrison just is a different identity player than what they've had in this defense in terms of his physicality and mindset and attitude. So I like swinging big for upside at 34 here.

The Titans went with Cam Ward at number one overall. I'm going to give them Matthew Golden, the wide receiver from Texas here at number 35. You know, trading DeAndre Hopkins away in the middle of the season sort of showed, hey, I mean, this team's really got to be totally retooled in the offensive weapons that they have. They obviously have Calvin Ridley, but Nick Westbrook-Kakine, shout out. He was a touchdown monster, it felt like,

for a good stretch of the second half of the season. But I think Matthew Golden becomes the immediate wide receiver two on this team, perhaps even the wide receiver one. Maybe he even becomes Cam Ward's go-to option as a rookie. I think that Golden has all the talent in the world, man. And on a very talented Texas team, he was the guy that continued to impress me every single time. getting off the line of scrimmage really good route runner great and contested catch situations despite not being the biggest guy in the world i think he

brings the total package to the wide receiver spot so uh golden going to the titans here at number 35 with cam ward at number one all right we'll keep moving jacksonville at 36 let's get corner help after getting mason gra Graham in the top 10. I'm gonna go with Trey Amos here, Trevor, get somebody that is sticky and coverage. I want a sick one, two for the Jags. Yeah, that's that's how you really beef up a defense that that looks lost a lot last year. Amos was pretty solid this week. He just he understands how to match movements. He, you know, just shows off the short area athleticism. You want to kind of stick with guys and one-on-ones and tough situations and

feels like Jacksonville. They just really need that number two corner that could do that for them. Yeah. And he plays really great in main coverage with the longer arms and the forced incompletion production like him and him on one side, Tyson came on the other and Jerry and Jones now in the slot. I mean, I think you've got three really good cornerback options moving forward, so I like that combination for Jacksonville there.

The Raiders at 37. Who'd you go with at six? Will Johnson. Will Johnson. So you took Will Johnson, number six, for this team. I certainly could go wide receiver for them. Let's see. Who do we got at wide receiver? I look at I.O. Maynard, Xavier Estrepo, Jaden Higgins, Jack Besch,

who we are getting off the board at some point. Might be getting off the board here. Running backs, their running game was, now this is a team that, this is a team that I think they got a good offensive line. I do. The offensive line's getting there. I think it's getting better.

I think it's going to be even better this year. They did not have the playmakers at running back to be able to make a difference. No, it was an awful revolving door. Right, right, right. So, Cam Scadabo is here. We know that he can basically do everything for you. So is Caleb Johnson.

Caleb Johnson is still here. And Caleb Johnson, I think, well within the realm of possibility for him to be a second-round pick here as we start things on day two. I like Dylan Sampson as well. But then there's the wide receiver. Do they have another pick? No, they don't. They're picking a 37, so they don't have another pick here.

They got the Jets' third rounder for Devontae, not second. So then they got two third-round picks? round picks that makes me feel good about them getting a back that they like in the third round right guy who mainers here it's basically jack besh or caleb johnson for I'm going to be honest with you. Bash is unbelievable. If you ask me who is the biggest, well, big, I was going to say like biggest winner of the Senior Bowl kind of implies some different things.

If you tell me who had the best Senior Bowl week, it's Jack Bash. Every single day, this dude was a monster. Every single day. And it's hard to not watch him and just not think Chris Godwin. He's got the bigger size. He's got the size of Chris Godwin. You know, he can block.

He can block close to the line of scrimmage. He's got that tight end background, so he can block close to the line of scrimmage. He can block for you in the slot. He's got good releases. He's got good handwork throughout the route, smooth movements, not afraid to catch over the middle, really good in contest to catch situations now he's he's he's not really a different type of receiver than what like brock bowers is

but he's another one i think i'm gonna go jack bash here i think i talked myself into it early second round chris gobblin got to the third round. NFL's not going to make that mistake with Jack Bash. They're not. So I'm going Bash here at 37. 38, the Patriots, they need offensive line help after getting Travis Hunter in the first round.

Yep. I'm going to go with Jonas Savanaia. Okay. All right. I think he's a better guard at the next level, even though he got a lot of tackle looks at the senior bowl because he's got long arms. But I would like him to be a longtime guard.

And I understand the Patriots need tackle help, but there's just no tackle. You're taking projects across the board if you take a real tackle here. Cam Williams is a project. I like Ozzy Trapillo, just a little early for me. Wyatt Milam's probably going to kick inside with his lack of arm length. Just get who you think could be

the best offensive lineman available. I'll go Savanaia here. Okay. Maybe he gets a shot to try to develop a tackle there. I was going to say, this is going to be a long-term play for them, by the way, for offensive tackle. So it's not like a – or sorry, for just the offensive line.

Yeah, they need help across the board. This is a multi-year thing for them. So you just take the best offensive lineman that you possibly can, I think. So Chicago, they've got two picks here, 39, and then they got 41. So I'm making both these selections for them after you took Will Campbell for them at number 10. I think they'll do some work along the interior offensive line, so I don't think that we have to force that one here.

I think I'm going to go running back and edge rusher. Those are the positions, if we're building a little draft plan here for them, those are the two positions that I'm going to go for. It's just which one am I going to pick first? Which dude am I going to pick first? I think I'm going to go with Donovan Ziraku here at number 39. Okay, get a little juice off the edge.

Yeah, I think he's a little further along. To me, Ziraku is kind of what you wanted Austin Booker to be and what Austin Booker still could be, but now you have sort of a more finished version of that product that you're okay with. You play him right away. Austin Booker can kind of be that utility rotational edge rusher now with Montez Sweat and Donovan Azaraku.

A little bit smaller of his size, but really good run defender. Somebody who wins between the ears. Has a great pass rush plan. Some good juice, good inside move. Not the most powerful edge in the world, but somebody who really knows how to get in the backfield with 16 sacks this past season for boston college so as a rock who one of my guys somebody i highlighted that i really like a lot in the edge rusher episode i'll go with him at 39 all right so who we'd have who did we have the saints end up with in

shamar turner shamar turner or shamari shamar stewart shamar stewart classic i'm gonna mess that up the entire draft season the classic so maybe So maybe I take Shamar Turner here and just complete the best friends. You know, yeah. You keep it confusing. Kind of low moving costs for both of them. Not the worst idea. Close enough.

The saints at 40 here. Get them a little budget truck, you know, just load up one. Maybe it's just one moving truck for two. Yeah. Just saying. So they're in cap hell.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, it's good. It's fine. I'm not mad. Do not put in the newspaper. I got mad. I know.

So we've had hell. I'm looking at the stats right now. Just the best one ever. I've looked at the stats. Hell, I'm looking at the stats right now. Oh, man. I'm going to go wide receiver here for the Saints to help out Chris Alave,

and obviously, hopefully, Rashid Shahid gets healthy, but I still think they need another pass catcher in this group. I'm going to get them some size in Jaden Higgins, who I thought had a really nice bounce back day two. Day one of the Senior Bowl, it was like, he's kind of, you know, and there's a lot two. Like day one of the senior bowl was like, ah, he's kind of, you know, and there's a lot of rust on day one of the senior bowl for all these guys.

They haven't played so many besides Riley Leonard. Everybody hadn't played in felt like months. Riley Leonard gets dropped onto the field and was like, I've been doing this forever. I did this last week. I did this last week on the highest stage. It's nothing. Jaden Higgins day two.

You saw the tracking. You saw the ability to get open even at his size, where he's 6'4", 2'12", length. I think that's a really good compliment for a lobby in the Saints offense. So it bears back on the clock here at number 41. I'm going to go to running back here. Hell yeah. I'll go Cam Scadabo.

Whoa. I'm going to go with Scadabo here at number 41 just an absolute monster not just this year but in years prior as well this has been somebody who no matter what you put on his plate um he's been able to uh be exactly what they need and he is, I mean, as a tackle breaker, just somebody who will give you absolutely everything he's got on every single carry. 93.2 overall grade this past season. 94.6 rushing grade. Missed tackle scores to 102. That was second in all of the FBS.

This dude was just an animal. And I think he's a good receiver out of the backfield as well. He's somebody that I'm really impressed with. He's my third-ranked running back that I have in this class, and I think the Bears are going to look to upgrade their running back room at some point in this draft here. So I'm going to go with Skadabo at 41. Okay, Skadabo at 41, the Jets at 42.

This one's pretty easy for me. I'm going to go with Tyleek Williams. After they got Tet McMillan in the top 10 to help out their offense nice let's bring some beef next to quinn and williams this run defense especially on the interior was terrible last year you get one of the best two gapping run stoppers in the draft and tyreek um niners up at 43 dominic pooney was great for them at guard and erin banks guard Aaron Banks got hurt but he's a free agent upcoming and Trent Williams ain't gonna be around forever

Colton McKivitt's playing out an offensive tackle for them there's thought to the offensive line but I think TJ Sanders is the better pick here as the pass rushing three tech for Salah's front now coming back on the defensive side of

things so it just felt as though this team was not as good as they needed to be in run defense like i would thought about tyreek williams here for them because in run defense they just they just were not what they needed to be here but man tj looks so good day one a lot of power practice a lot of power. Senior bowl practices. A lot of power. A lot more power than I thought he was going to play with. Me too. Really good.

The one gap penetrating three technique type of style to him, that showcased itself as well. Really quick off the line of scrimmage. Sanders is somebody who I think absolutely deserves to be talked about in the top 50, and we're going with another senior bowl guy here at 43 for the Niners. Pairing two defensive players, going to Jaday Barron in the first round, and then TJ Sanders in the top 50, and we're going with another senior bowl guy here at 43 for the Niners. Pairing two defensive players, going to Jaday Barron in the first round,

and then TJ Sanders in the second. All right. All right, so bringing the beef for Salah returning to the Niners. 44, the Cowboys. This may be the easiest pick I've made in the mock draft. I'm going with Caleb Johnson. See, it all worked out. It all worked out

perfectly. It all worked out. Dallas got James Pierce. Not James Pierce Jr. They took a tackle. We had them... Can you go back to round one? I'm all mixed up right now. I know we had offensive line for them.

Armand Membu, your boy. They got Membu. That's right, and that was me, so I should have known that pick. Full transparency, you want to hear I screwed this up. I was wondering why you were asking me to do it. Listen to this. Yeah, I'm always honest on the pod. I did the mock on my laptop underneath my recording monitor with you. You're doing the mock for our screen, but I do it too,

so I don't lose track of the picks i only clicked round one good so when we were done with round one while you were talking i had to emergency fire up a two rounder again click through all the players i knew we took but didn't have time to put them to their spots and i actually muscleied most of them. Yeah, right, right. But not that one. Okay. So Dallas gets Armand Membu and then Caleb Johnson, and their run game is now restored. Yeah, God, that is a really good scenario for the Dallas Cowboys. Unreal.

Maybe my favorite one, too, in this draft so far. Oh, man, see, it all worked out for the Colts, too. It all worked out. You didn't have them taking Malachi Starks you had them taking Tyler Warren here at number 14 and we got Xavier Watts still here it is here oh man any corners any corners tempting me away from this one I don't think they're going to nope nope Xavier Watts just player here. 89.5 coverage grade, five forced incompletions, just somebody who was always around the football,

was always looking to make the biggest play. He has made some serious money over the last two years. So Xavier Watts from Notre Dame, really good one-two pairing here with Tyler Warren and Xavier Watts here for the Indianapolis Colts. All right, the Falcons up 46. They got some pass rush help in round one. Yeah, James Spears Jr.

James Spears Jr., which I know we had some debate over because they've taken a lot of pass rushers over the years, but this guy just has more pure pass rush ability than what they're typically accustomed to getting. It feels like with this one now, you kind of want to get some more help long-term on the back end. I'm intrigued by Darian Porter in this spot. Yeah.

Just because he's got size and speed. Yeah. Right. Miles per hour. What was he? 22 point something. Almost 23 miles an hour. Yeah.

Yeah. Crazy. He's got size, length. and when you can run like that, it just brings so much athleticism to the back end of your defense. And now they've done that on the edge, and they've done that at corner. I like the pick. I like the pick. I'm a big fan of Darian Porter.

I think he's underrated right now in this draft class. I think that his best football was even ahead of him i mean you see the the elite coverage grade yeah the run defense grade's a little bit lower because he's a little bit more slender but i think he's got a willingness to be a great run defender so i like the attitude too i think it's a mindset thing yep yep i'm with you i just think he's a good player cardinals up at 47 now he took walter Walter Nolan for them in the first round. I think they could still use D-line because, like, you know, Roy Lopez, legend of the show, he's an upcoming free agent. He's obviously going to break the record for the highest-paid

interior defensive lineman of all time. LJ Collier is also a free agent coming up. Dennis Gardick's a free agent. Baron Browning's a free agent. Kyrie Wright's a free agent. Kyrus Tonga's a free agent. So, like, you know, they'll bring probably some of these guys back.

They do have a BJ. It was your Laurie who we didn't get to see this year due to injury. So I don't think they need edge. If Darius Robinson, they picked obviously. So I think they're good there. I think we're alright there maybe look at an interior offensive line

that could certainly be a need for him maybe offensive tackle if somebody's standing out you know what I think we might need to start to talk about here in round 2 I don't know if I'm going to take him maybe I will just Just talking it through. How good of a week did Anthony Belton have for Men's State?

I was blown away. He was awesome, man. They put him in tackle, but they put him at guard as well. He looked good at both. He stonewalled Donovan Ezeraku on his inside spin move. Yep. Beautifully this past week. So Wyatt Milam's on the board. He was aalled Donovan Ezeraku on his inside spin move. Yep. Beautifully this past week. So Wyatt Milam's on the board.

He was a senior bowl guy as well. People were probably like, whoa, hold on. Like, why aren't you just taking Milam here? I think Milam can still be good. I think it's going to be a little bit of an adjustment period for him to be a guard at the NFL level if you're going to have him be a guard. But I do think, you know, vers I could be good for Milam still. Maybe I should go with Milam.

All right, we'll go Milam here. I'll go Milam here at 47. This is still a really good football player. I don't mean to make it sound like he, like he's not, I mean, he's got the fantastic PFF grades this past season. He was, he was an elite overall blocker. He struggled a little bit at the senior bowl because they were putting him in that new situation to be able to play guard and because he's a little bit more upright a little more of a lean body type that's

going to be more of an adjustment but he is still a good offensive lineman so i think second round certainly well within the realm of possibility not maybe not the first round like we thought potentially with milan but uh 47 here for the Cardinals still going to be a good football player and upgrade their offensive line. So I'll go Milo. All right. The Dolphins are back on the clock. They took Kelvin Banks to help out their offensive line in round one.

I'm going to go now on the interior of the defensive line here and go Derek Harmon, get them some pass rush ability. All right. In this spot, not a guy that we got to see, obviously, this week. Bummer. Was really looking forward to seeing him. Yeah. Somebody that had a monster breakout year on the interior defensive line

was a highly productive pass rusher. With Javon Holland approaching free agency and them getting a little older on the back end, I did do a deep dive into secondary options here. The board just didn't break right for Miami in this spot. So the Bengals now on the clock at number 49 we had i i had them taking malachi starks at 17 and this is where i will take anthony belton and i'm gonna play him at guard the bagel i love it guy bangles got to be way better on the interior offensive line than they were this past season um there's

going to be potential for upgrades to have been made there um it was it's it's ted karras in the middle it's alex kappa uh at one of the offensive guard spots and then who's the other guard i can't i'm man now i know i gotta now i gotta make sure that i say it before i pick a guy who might be replacing him out of respect no erasure oh cordo volson cody ford but cody ford's an upcoming free agent. They could use the spot. Yeah, we're going with Anthony Belton, who, again, I was just floored with how good of a week he had

at the Senior Bowl. So somebody who was regarded highly before the season, and I just didn't love his tape. But somebody who really surprised me in a great way in mobile so Anthony Belton off the board here number 49 all right back on the clock here for the Seattle and I did say when I gave them Nick Skorton edge rusher that I I would come through with my promise to help their interior offensive line and I am a man of my word. I like to think.

Sometimes? I think so. Yeah. Right? No, no, I'll give it to you. That's actually, no, that's scary. You said sometimes. Have I done you wrong?

No, I'll give it to you. No, no, no, you are. Have I wronged you? I'm trolling you. No, I'm trolling you. No, sometimes in the mock drafts, I could definitely lose sight of my promises. I'm kind of intrigued here, Trevor, by Marcus Bowe from Purdue.

He's just so funny, man. Right? Did you see the rep where... I think Brandon Thorne tweeted this out. Where he fakes a jump set. So he almost does this... I don't even know how to explain it he just explodes out of his stance and like fakes that he's going to like quick set or jump set him to immediately get

hands on him but he's so he his footwork is so nimble and he's so light on his feet oh it's crazy that he jumped all the way out there and then like backed up like retreated almost like backpedaled like a corner and the defensive lineman was like what just just happened so i am very intrigued by marcus bow whether it's uh tackle or maybe even guard so something like that so i'm really intrigued by him on the interior of this offensive line and it's nice that he played tackle because if abe lucas gets hurt again now you have an insurance policy but I think for Seattle they would give him a look at all three interior spots so you're right he's just a fun player to watch because he's a little unorthodox at the position and it works so Marcus and Bo to the Seattle Seahawks number 50 uh the Buccaneers now on the

board at number 51 I had them take in uh uh savon revel at number 19 the cornerback from east carolina edge rusher i certainly could still use edge rusher see i feel like the guy who's trending in the in the direction to be man i i feel like i might have to just go with Prince Lee no matter what. I was a little disappointed for Prince Lee. Now, one, he showed up at 265 pounds, which Ole Miss had him listed at 255. And he's got really nice burst in bend that we've seen over the last couple of years, both at Florida and at Ole Miss.

And I thought, because of how much burst in bend he had, I thought he was more like 245, like closer to 245 than 255. And he shows up at the senior bowl and he's 265 265 now he was too big at 265 in my opinion he he needs to lose weight he needs to be a lot closer to like 250 but if he can he can give you some juice and pass rush and his numbers were crazy this past year 22.8 pass rush win rate 94 91.4 pass rush grade 90.9 in against true pass set so i'll go with Prince Lee Umami Ellen here just because he's got the numbers but we got to get the weight figured out because he played too big at the senior bowl and I think that's why we didn't see a lot more flashes from him so I'll

go with Prince Lee here 51 for the bucks though all right 52 the Broncos I had them take Colston Loveland in round one yep I don't think you need to stop with taking pass catchers here go back to the well wide receiver you have courtland sutton you have marvin mims who's had some really big flashes uh devon vele they have players here but i still would like to add to this room now this is interesting because you could argue this guy plays a little like Sutton. But how about Alec Io Manor here? Like, listen, Sean Payton wants to be a physical football team. And you got to block your ass off at wide receiver.

You got to play above the rim. And now you have a guy that is maybe going to help even more at life after Sutton, but going to help also as a rookie and allow you to play the brand of football you're trying to yeah I mean Sutton Io Maynard and Colson Loveland on that offense is a really good pass pass catching group for um for Bo Nix you'd probably need that separation guy at some point but I think Mims can be it if they really lean that's true that's true I might be I know what you're saying like a nuanced separator yes yes I know what you're saying all right we'll go out i almost went i almost went jalen royals there but i lean back to the player that's a little higher you know he could have gone guy who cooked all week long at the senior bowl tez i mean there's the relationship with beau i know it's right there i i think tez will be the classic, oh, he's 155 pounds.

He's going to go in the third round, and then he just runs by people anyway. So I wonder what's going to happen there, because I don't think Tez Johnson had as good of a senior bowl week as Tank Dell did. I don't think so either. And Tank Dell went in the third round. That's what I'm saying. So I do wonder where Tez Johnson ultimately goes because a lot of people looked at him this past week at the Senior Bowl

and went, he was open every play, every single play. Every single play that Tez Johnson was out there, he was basically open. And why don't you draft the guy who just gets open? And there's, you know, some thought to that. But I don't think it's going to be in this range. I didn't think that we were going to get Tez Johnson here in the second round. But it is an intriguing player for the mid-rounds, third and fourth rounds, stuff like that.

So the Steelers, I gave them Luther Bird in the third because he fell to them in the first round. Now I feel like I really want to go to cornerback. We got anybody that – Maxwell Harrison. Oh, Azaria Thomas. Yeah, I'm going to go with – You are this. Azaria Thomas.

This one makes a lot of sense for what the Pittsburgh Steelers want to do. He's a bigger type of a corner. You know, 6'1", 6'2", 200 pounds. He plays that man coverage style. What I love the most about him during the Senior Bowl is day three, you're playing a lot of close coverage stuff. You're playing a lot of red zone. It's a lot of man coverage situations

and and i thought that he shined in those situations and that's exactly where you want him to shine and i felt like you know some of his teammates jerry and jones renardo green at florida state like those guys were drafted lower than they probably should have been for what we saw from them as rookies and i don't think the nfl will make that same mistake if they believe the same about um azari a thomas So I'll have him going in the second round 53 to the Pittsburgh Steelers, who I think is very much their type. Chargers at 54. I'm going to have them take JT Tuimiloa.

They got Ashton Gentry in the first round to help that run game. Tuimiloa was good value at 54. Smart player, good hands. I tried to get him off the board previously, but I just didn't really find a spot for him. I mean, hardball player through and through, and he knows a thing or two about this guy coached against him plenty of times to me. Low. I was just a plug and play starter on the chargers that need to get a little younger edge in a couple of places. So I think I went to make it Buka for the, you did. I did

and make it Buka for the green Bay Packers. And now they're back on the clock here, man, cornerback. Well, I think I'm going back to to it there's a lot of really good linebackers who are on the board right now I feel like we're not getting them off the board and we probably should be for their talent level uh second round is really where we start to have that conversation with them but certainly here with the Packers having Quay Walker and and Edger and Cooper how Edger and Cooper played last year we're nothing's gonna you know we're not we're not gonna be picking a linebacker here for Green Bay harrison's probably their type he's probably the kind of guy that they want he's twitchy he's got the long arms about six foot six foot one he did not have a good year

this past year but the year before the the tape was pretty standout um and he has some good he has a good plays at the Senior Bowl this past week. I watched Zia Alexander, and right now I have Zia Alexander ranked ahead of him. I got eyes on him at the Shrine Bowl because he was there. I didn't necessarily see him get burnt.

He just didn't stand out as much as I thought he was going to at that event. I thought he was going to be able to really separate himself as one of those man coverage defenders. But Maxwell Harrison is going to be the pick here for the Packers to 55. All right, Packers get wide receiver and corner help, two of their biggest needs.

Maybe you nailed it for the Packers here, Trevor. Not easy to do with two consecutive picks. The comments will tell us. 56 for the bills i had them take jalen walker in the first round uh to help the middle of their defense and also you know give you maybe a little pass rush juice on passing downs now it feels a little bit more wide open i think in this spot i kind of like there's two ideas i like here one omar norman lot to give them a little you know rotational juice on the interior

big fan big fan the other idea i like i want to know which one you like better is i know they took Cole Bishop last year but they still need help better I think they need upgrades at safety but beyond just him taking over do you take the swing on Kevin Winston Jr. coming off the injury but was phenomenal in 2023 yeah that's it that's two good football players two right really good football players. Keep in mind the Bills also pick at 62. So I feel like... I'd go D-line then here. That's what I'm thinking.

I'd rather just make sure I get the D-line before that well kind of dries up. Yeah. Yeah, so I'll take Omar Norman-Lott for their interior. Okay, all right. Omar Norman-Lott, somebody who I think had a great year at Tennessee this past year. Really high pass-through-to-win percentage in their deep defensive line rotation. Didn't get to see a ton from him this week, unfortunately, at the Senior Bowl

because he was walking out with an injury on day one. I don't believe he was out there at any other time throughout the week. So Omar Norman-Lott to the Bills there at 56. Texans at 57. And then they got Nico Collins at wide receiver But I hate to say it I mean they need another wide receiver Right?

Yeah We don't know if Tank's gonna play next year I mean you don't know if Tank's gonna play next year You don't know what he's like when he's back out there And even with him being as slender as he is I mean you just worry about long term How long how long he's gonna play in the nfl and i hate saying that oh you're being realistic 15 years right but um that's a really tough knee injury to come back from and i i really hope that he can but you got to think about next year for

this team restrepo feels like the obvious one for me. Just you're getting a player who's instantly impactful for your team, somebody who could be a reliable weapon for CJ Stroud. You have the Nico Collins, and then you have the underneath reliability with Restrepo, who's been so good over the last couple of years. So, you know, you're bringing Stefan Diggs back as well, but he's coming off of, I can't remember, was it ACL tear or Achilles? One of the two. I think it was an ACL tear.

But another major injury from Stefanon Diggs as well. So I'm going to go with Reshrepo. I'll take Reshrepo here. We got to make sure that that offense is where it needs to be. The defense was on fire, it felt like, this past year with D'Amico Ryans. And they'll make some defensive upgrades. But we'll go with Reshrepo, who, again, was one of the top senior bowl players that we had this week, really stood out this week.

All right, the Panthers at 58, had them take Mike Green in the top 10 to help their pass rush. Now going to look at wide receiver here for me. And I'm going to go with Jalen Royals from Utah State. Okay. We've seen Bryce have such a good rapport with Adam Thielen. And obviously, you know, they're, they're hoping to get more from the get next year who had the wrist injury

this year, but I still think they need another youthful piece at wide receiver in this room. And we're starting to get to the point of the wide receiver cutoff where I don't, I don't know if I'd want to wait till round three in this scenario. And I think Royals is just very skillful at getting open and has sticky hands to make plays with a timing quarterback like Bryce.

I like the match here. Royals had a couple of really good seasons, so I like the shout out there. He didn't stand out as much as I would have liked for him to at the Senior Bowl. He had a couple moments, though, where I was i was like yeah that's the guy that i expected so i took josh connerly jr for the baltimore ravens at number 59 or sorry at number um 27 i believe in the first round now they're back at number 59 looking at potential wide receiver i mean savion williams would just be absolutely hilarious for them imagine running a backfield of lamar henry and savion

yeah it's terrifying it's that's like actually an insane thought. It's tempting. I might go with it. I might go with it, dear. Because we got what Nelson Aguilar is a free agent. I'm looking at it now. Tyler Wallace is a free agent. You got Tez Walker, who you're hoping can turn into that deep vertical threat for you. But depending on how you feel about him, maybe you feel like Savion Williams can be that type of player.

Even if he's not going to be a nuanced route runner, he can be just an overall offensive weapon for you. Defensive line. Are you happy with how Odafeo and David Ojabo are kind of progressing there? They did draft the D's to Isaac the year before, so they're all right there. Corner. Brandon Stevens is a free agent coming up. TJ Tampa, you do still have, so he might be able to step in. I think he might need more corner depth, though, but I don't love the corners we had left.

Let me bring up the cornerback board. I mean, maybe this is a Kobe Bryant spot, depending on how high. Two of the lightest corners in the league starting for them. Oh, but they're just feisty as hell. I know. I love Nate Wiggins.

You don't have to sell me on that. I don't know if Kobe would go top 60. I don't think he will. No, I don't think so either, but I think he's like third round lock after how he played at the, at the shrine bowl. Even at,

even at a buck 71, man, that dude was so much fun watching him lock down every receiver. lock after how he played at the Shrine Bowl. Even at $1.71, man. That dude was so much fun watching him lock down every receiver he basically went up against. I think I might go Savion. What about running back, though? They got Justice Hill. They have Keaton Mitchell, but he's coming off the ACL. Derek Henry, I think he only signed a two-year deal.

So what, he's only there for one more year? Shoot, maybe you believe that savings are running back anyways. I mean, sometimes I really do. Quinn Sean Judkins. I don't know if this is short-sighted. Ravens fans, let me know. I don't love how the board fell in a lot of other ways i'm gonna go with dylan samson okay i like i like dylan samson's tape more than i like

travion henderson certainly before the college football playoff began but travion henderson it was a big time back and forth with me for how well he played in the college football playoff you can see these russian grades here 85.6 74.1 69.8 72.6 i felt like he was the version of the travion henderson that we've always wanted him to be we saw that in the college football playoff and i loved it but i do still have dylan samson ranked a little bit higher he's got so much juice to him he had a great year this past year so i'll go dylan samson at 59 to give them maybe the heir apparent to Derrick Henry and instead just an incredible backfield until then. The Lions at 60.

This one's a little tricky, right? Because obviously this team is pretty loaded. They just got hit with injury on defense. You want Mike? You want Mike? Mike Williams, the edge rusher from Georgia in the first round. I wonder if they'd go linebacker. I was kind of thinking that, too.

Like, give yourself some depth in the middle of the field. Right. Because that's actually how the board broke for them here. I know. Where you look at it and you go, like, Jihad Campbell's still on the board. Right. I mean, like, Campbell and Demetrius Knight,

I feel like, are absolutely Lions-type players. Yeah. I'm going to take Campbell. Improve their linebacker depth. They just had so many front seven injuries, so many defensive injuries this year. Campbell, at a minimum, can play packages for you out of the gate and eventually be our long-term answer in the middle of the field.

Jack Sawyer went to the Commanders in the middle of the field jack sawyer uh went to the commanders in the first round any wide receivers i love no what about corners i think we took a lot of the good corners again like could go zai no i just don't love any of the corners here. Odena Fortune, shout out. Had a pick six in the Shrine Bowl. Love that. Noel Williams, I thought had a really good week in the Shrine Bowl as well.

I think he's going to be a riser for me, and we're going to talk about him more as probably a late day two pick type of a player. Quincy Riley had a really nice Senior Bowl week. I thought he played very, very well. Upton Stout is somebody who I also think that i'm going to uh raise up the board i thought that he played very very well this past week at the senior bowl too but not players that you're thinking about here at number 61 instead uh let's go to the offensive line i think i might go i see your here, but that's only if you feel good about moving Wiley inside. I think that.

Oh, man. Oh, no. Donovan Jackson. No, Donovan Jackson after. Oh, yeah. Jackson's a really good player. Yeah. Donovan Jackson after the college football playoff that he had,

especially with Sam Cosme tearing his ACL. I mean, you need a good interior offensive lineman that you can lean on. So Donovan Jackson, somebody that was a riser throughout the college football playoff, being able to play a left tackle and survive very well there. This is a perfect pick for them if they can get him in the second round. They probably, I don't know if they can after the performance

and the run that Jackson had in the college football playoff. But shoot, getting Jack Sawyer and Donovan Jackson, that's two of Ohio State's best players on their national championship run. Yeah, that's a good call. That was somebody that should not get lost through the shuffle. All right, so Donovan Jackson goes to the commanders who needed offensive line help. The Bills, I kind of get the best of both worlds here.

I got Omar Norman-Lott with my previous pick. That was between him and Kevin Winston Jr. I'm going to take Winston Jr. here. I thought over the summer he was the best safety in the draft. He had a season-ending injury, so you're getting a significant injury discount here. I think the Bills need to be better on the back end, and they had a lot of health question marks as well, too, but I think Winston Jr. is an incredible tackler, good instincts. I think he fits all the very high-end mental responsibilities that are required of you in McDermott's defense.

And I love the landing spot for him where they have some guys that can play right away if he needs to still get right health-wise. He goes at 63. We went with Tyler Booker here at 31. Not really a wide receiver that I love in this spot. I think Landon Jackson could make a ton of sense for them as like their type of edge rusher.

Kyle Kinnar, Jordan Burch. Man, Jordan Burch actually might make the most sense for them. Right. And we didn't get to see jordan birch this this past no senior bowl um i also like the idea of them ticking taking uh nick emin warry and just having him like hey you raise hell safety linebacker raise hell right you know that's it's really like his position it's like hey just go cause destruction i know man i i would i would love so if they don't address defense flying here if we were doing a three

round mock i would love for them to get ahmed hasanin who was a big time standout at the shrine bowl one of my favorite guys that i watched that week he is somebody who i think was great as well we've got a uh oh actually never mind never mind yeah i totally change it up i know who they're going with somebody who's way too low on my board right now and he is i mean he is going to shoot up derrys alexander what a week holy smokes this dude showed up six three 300 pounds 34 inch arms just looks the the part of an n NFL player he had one of the best weeks of anybody at the senior bowl he was a monster as an edge rusher and they played him on the interior as well he was one of the highest graded players that we had in the country this past year at Toledo

90.2 overall grade the I'm glad I thought of this I'm glad we got him in here because he is absolutely I think in the running for being a second round pick especially to a team like Philadelphia Tyler Booker and Darius Alexander perfect for Philly as a one-two combo. Well done by you. Would have been a miss on the show if we didn't talk about the week he had down there. You know, you just get, if you've seen some of the practice tape floating around online, if you weren't down in Mobile, it's, buddy, it's impressive.

Undeniably. All right. The Chiefs here at 64 had them go Ariante Ursary. Yep. At the end of the first round. Oh man. This is actually a tricky one to end on here. I'm going to, I don't know if shock you, but I think you're going to be like, oh, I'm going

to have them take Travion Henderson here. Oh, because I don't know if shock you, but I think you're going to be like, oh. I'm going to have them take Travion Henderson here. Oh, because they don't have that kind of running back. Right now, Pacheco came back from the injury. Oh, and just never really got going. And to be fair, it was a significant injury. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Kareem hunt just it's amazing how he does this but you're not like kareem hunts the future of our backfield

and even if you had kareem hunt come back and pacheco healthy the way you use trevion is totally different than those guys this is the home run hitter this is the guy that absolutely this is the guy that runs the wheel route, motion him out wide in the slot, outside zone, pitch plays. Andy Reid cooking with gas with Travion Henderson in the backfield. The way it stresses the edges of the defense and the fact you don't need to use him 35 times a game in this offense. I just had to have this fit.

All right, Travion Henderson, last pick of the draft here. I will take a deep breath and I will read all of these. You are a, you are a good man because I love the audio only listeners. And number one of this mock draft, we had the Tennessee Titans taking quarterback Cam Ward, Cleveland Browns at number two, Abdul Carter, the edge rusher for Penn State. Number three, New York Giants took Shadur Sanders. Number four, the New England Patriots took Travis Hunter. Number five, the Jags took Mason Grant. Number six, the Raiders took Will Johnson.

Number seven, the Jets took Teterow and McMillan. Number eight, the Panthers, Mike Green. Number nine, the Saints, Jamar Stewart. Number 10, Will Campbell to the Chicago Bears. Number 11, San Francisco 49ers took Jadae Barron. Number 12, Armand Membou to the Dallas Cowboys. 13, Miami Dolphins, Kevin Max Jr. 14, Tyler Warren to the Indianapolis Colts.

You are an Indianapolis Colt. 15, Atlanta Falcons, James Pierce Jr. 16, Walter Nolan to the Arizona Cardinals. 17, Malachi Starks to the Cincinnati Bengals. 18, Nick Skorton to the Seattle Seahawks. 19, Siobhan Revell to the Cincinnati Bengals, 18. Nick Skorton to the Seattle Seahawks, 19. Siobhan Revell to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Colson Loveland at number 20 to the Denver Broncos, 21.

Luther Burden to the Pittsburgh Steelers, 22. Ashton Gentry to the Los Angeles Chargers, 23. Green Bay Packers to Mecca Igbuka, 24. Minnesota Vikings, Kenneth Grant, 25. Greg Zabel to the Houston, Texas, 26. Josh Simmons to the Los Angeles Rams, 27. Josh Connerly to the Ravens, 28. Mikel Williams to the Lions, 25. Greg Zabel to the Houston, Texas, 26. Josh Simmons to the Los Angeles Rams, 27. Josh Connolly to the Ravens, 28. Mikel Williams to the Lions, 29.

Jack Sawyer to the Commanders, 30. Jalen Walker to the Buffalo Bills, 31. Tyler Booker to the Eagles, 32. Ariante Ursary to the Kansas City Chiefs. That was round one. And then round two to kick us off, we had the Cleveland Browns taking to Marion Hampton at 33. Benjamin Morrison to the Giants at 34.

Matthew Golden to the Titans at 35. Trey Amos to the Jags at 36. Jack Besch to the Raiders at 37. Jonas Avanaya to the Patriots at 38. Donovan Azaraku to the Bears at 39. Jaden Higgins to the Saints at 40. Cam Scadabo to the Bears at 41. Tyleek Williams to the Jets at 42.

TJ Sanders to the Niners at 43. Caleb Johnson to the Cowboys at 41. Tyleek Williams to the Jets at 42. TJ Sanders to the Niners at 43. Caleb Johnson to the Cowboys at 44. Xavier Watts to the Colts at 45. Darian Porter to the Falcons at 46. Wyatt Milam to the Cardinals at 47. Derek Harmon to the Dolphins at 48. Anthony Belton. I almost said Anthony Beck.

That would have been impressive if he was getting drafted again. Anthony Belton to the Cincinnati Bengals. Could use a tight end. At number 49, Marcus Bowe to the Seattle Seahawks at 50. Prince Lee Monmiel into the Bucks at 51. Alec Onyemaynor to the Broncos at 52.

Azariah Thomas to the Steelers at 53. JT Tuomaloa to the Chargers at 54. Maxwell Harrison to the Packers at 55. Omar Norman-Lott to the Bills at 56. Xavier Rocheveau to the Texans at 57. Jalen Royals to the Panthers at 58. Dylan Sampson to the Packers, 55. Omar Norman-Lott to the Bills, 56. Xavier Rocheveau to the Texans, 57. Jalen Royals to the Panthers, 58. Dylan Sampson to the Ravens at 59.

Jihad Campbell to the Lions at 60. Donovan Jackson to the Commanders at 61. Kevin Winston Jr. to the Buffalo Bills at 62. Darius Alexander to the Eagles at 63. And then Travion Henderson to the Kansas City Chief chiefs at 64 there it is we would love to hear from you guys we had so many senior bowl thoughts that we tried to get here in this show um but so many more thoughts that we could have on the senior bowl that we would love to hear from you guys let us know what you thought of the mock draft picks but also if you have senior bowl or

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