NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 31. The Mock Draft Challenge!

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers take the Stock Exchange live for the first time for their wildest mock draft yet: "The Mock Draft Challenge." At least 4 trades, at least 3 first-round QBs, and ...picks made by the viewers live on the show are going to make this mock REAL interesting.   Deposit now with code PFF for a 100% deposit match up to $100 on your first deposit, and get a FREE PFF EDGE subscription: https://jockmkt.com/pff 0:00 - Intro 3:45 - 1. Jaguars 5:45 - 2. Lions 8:25 - 3. Texans 10:10 - 4. Jets 11:25 - 5. Saints 16:30 - 6. Panthers 18:50 - 7. Giants (via Bears) 19:25 - 8. Falcons 20:15 - 9. Seahawks (via Broncos) 23:25 - 10. Jets (via Seahawks) 25:35 - 11. Commanders 31:50 - 12. Vikings 33:45 - 13. Chargers (via Texans) 37:20 - 14. Ravens 37:55 - 15. Eagles (via Dolphins) 42:30 - 16. Giants (via Saints) 44:05 - 17. Texans (via Chargers) 44:55 - 18. Eagles (via Saints) 45:25 - 19. Giants (via Saints) 47:10 - 20. Steelers 48:40 - 21. Patriots 50:40 - 22. Packers (via Raiders) 54:25 - 23. Cardinals 55:45 - 24. Cowboys 56:55 - 25. Bills 58:10 - 26. Titans 59:25 - 27. Buccaneers 1: 00:55 - 28. Packers 1:04:55 - 29. Chiefs 1:10:00 - 30. Chiefs 1:10:50 - 31. Falcons (via Bengals) 1:12:35 - 32. Browns (via Lions) 1:15:55 - Teams that didn’t have a first round pick

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Starting point is 00:00:52 On this episode, we had our very first live mock draft on YouTube on Monday night that we have here for you today. This is a blast. It was not only a live mock draft, but it was also a challenge mock draft. And the challenges were, Connor and I each had to do two trades, one of which had to be a team trading back up into the first round. We also had to find homes in the first round for three different quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:01:14 because we know that's realistic. And we also got the chat involved. So we had users come in and make at least two selections. They actually helped us with a lot more than just two. It was a blast having that little back and forth. If you're listening to this on audio and you feel like you're missing a lot, not getting the video portion of it, you can check it out on PFF's YouTube. It'll be up there as well.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I am Trevor Sikkim. With me, as always, is my co-host, Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. I am Trevor Six, but that is my partner in podcasting, Connor Rogers. And we are here with you all on a Monday night for a very special episode of the podcast. Connor, this is our first live episode, and it happens to be a Mock Draft episode. It happens to be a Challenge Mock Draft episode, and the entire order just changed. So what a treat we have for the fans, for the listeners tonight. Buddy, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:18 I know we normally are recording podcasts a little bit earlier in the day, but I hope you slammed an energy drink or something because we got to bring it tonight for the good people. I'm feeling good, man. I had about a pound of shrimp uh for dinner before the show so i'm feeling i'm feeling spry right now but seriously uh we lucked out because obviously trevor and i do our mock drafts every sunday night basically and this one week we're like you know what let's do it live and of course we had maybe one of you know obviously one of the biggest trades i can't say the biggest because there's been 8 million that impact the first round. But this one completely flips around the first round.
Starting point is 00:02:48 It might be the first of another move coming for the Saints. We'll see. But man, this is exciting. And this mock draft is going to, it's going to move fast, but it's going to be a lot more creative than our usual mock drafts. It is. So this is a challenge mock draft. And if you guys are out there like, okay, what the heck is a challenge mock draft?
Starting point is 00:03:03 It is essentially, you know, Connor and I do so many of these things every single monday that you know we might switch who picks odds and evens and different things like that but we really wanted to put our mock drafting ability to the test and have a little bit of fun with it so we have three stipulations here for this mock draft the first one is that there's got to be two trades each from both me and connor so four trades total one of the trades from each of us has to be a team moving back into the first round so we're trying to make this a realistic predictive mock draft and we know that often happens but we don't always do those in mock draft simulations so we're trying to make sure that we like try to make sure that one of those teams gets to come up and we get to have those realistic scenarios as
Starting point is 00:03:49 well. The other stipulation, three quarterbacks, whatever we think of this quarterback class, whatever you guys think of this quarterback class, it's the NFL quarterbacks are going to go high. So we're getting at least three quarterbacks in this mock draft to try to make it realistic. And then the other fun stipulation that we had is that the chat is going to make two picks. One pick for me, one pick for Connor. Think of the old, who wants to be a millionaire, ask the audience kind of thing. That's what we're going to be doing throughout the draft.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And Connor, these are fun, man. I think that these are going to really, not only spice up the mock draft, not only challenge us a little bit, but also I'm glad that we're getting the people involved too. Yeah, man. It's phone the fans is what we're going to call it. Phone the fans! It's good.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Like we said, Trevor and I are past the point of planning mock drafts, so these are off the cuff, on cue. We're just going. We're just making these picks. There's no rundown made for this, so if either of us freeze at any point, we now have a card in our back pocket to say, I don't have to
Starting point is 00:04:43 make this pick here's a couple options the chat gets to vote it's going to be a lot of fun it's a good way to get you guys involved in our mock draft so uh here's the rundown trevor has the odds i have the evens that was our old school way of doing it we did take a break from that and man we're not uh we're not spoiling when the trades are coming some of them actually aren't even official they can pop up at any moment so let's waste no time man i'm excited for also when we get into the saints newly acquired draft capital to show how that's going to change the top 20 in this draft as well dude no doubt about it all right we'll kick this thing off before we do though gotta mention to everybody who's listening if you don't have a pff subscription right now you
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Starting point is 00:05:49 get yourself 25% off. So let's do it. You mentioned it. We, we, we don't have this rundown fully filled out. Um, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:56 we did a mock draft Monday a couple of weeks ago when I had the Packers moving up from 22 to 14. It was a great idea in theory, but then I had them sending two second round picks, which was like way overpaying. So I don't get to do that you didn't make any friends with that one i didn't i don't get to do that tonight shout out the one person who left us an itunes review and then unsubscribe for the podcast appreciate you i did miss that but that's that's incredible anger that's that's rage level uninstall the video game from ps5 or xbox rage and then
Starting point is 00:06:24 don't worry three days later you'll be back we're not mad at you so i'm not gonna do that here because like connor said if i ever get in a bind i'm just gonna ask you guys i'm gonna ask the chat and then you guys can get the bad itunes reviews all right so let's kick this thing off i don't think there's gonna be any debate here at number one i'm controlling the odds so i'm controlling the jacksonville jaguars this is a predictive what we think will happen mock draft. Obviously, we're going to have some fun with the challenges and stipulations. But I think Jacksonville is still going Aiden Hutchinson.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I don't think that changes. There's a lot of swirling around who might be picked after Jacksonville at number one. But I think we know who's going to go number one. And I think it's going to be Aiden. So let's lock that in here. Yeah, I'm with you, Trev. I mean, I don't think we need to overthink that one i know it's been getting a little juicy there's been some rumors around there that it could be trayvon walker we've obviously come full circle that it could be
Starting point is 00:07:13 someone like icky we're not completely ruling that out if you follow uh obviously the odds boards on many sports books that flips around but i think it's going to be aiden hutchinson i'm with you and that puts the lions in a fascinating spot at number two right where we've heard a lot of different names they pretty much all have to do with the defensive line besides the long shot that it could be Malik Willis I'll be honest I'm not going there here I think this is a team that at the number two overall pick they won a premium player that is a foundational building block for this roster. And, man, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Who are you going with? My gut tells me this will be Trayvon Walker, but I'm still not there. It just doesn't make sense to me as a number two overall pick. I'm taking Kayvon Thibodeau, which probably starts this draft on a little bit of a crazy note if Aiden Hutchinson's gone you take Kayvon Thibodeau man you don't take a player with a number two overall pick that is not rushing the passer at even a first round level right now and once again my gut tells me that it will be Trayvon Walker but I just can't get there right now passing Thibodeau in this spot seems like a giant mistake. Kayvon Thibodeau number two overall.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Man, starting it off. Like, that wasn't even – A little spice. I thought the challenge parts of this mock draft was going to spice it up enough. You're out here hitting me with the sickest curve right off the bat. I'm out here like, yeah, yeah, we're going with Aiden Hutchinson. You're like, Kayvon Thibode to so all right now look look i like it i like look i you know i'm totally with you evaluation standpoint both of us have cave on tibido as our number one edge rusher in the class we both think he's supremely talented and for as much as okay he's not going number one overall
Starting point is 00:09:00 anymore at least it doesn't seem like it i don't think so it's not gonna be at least i don't think i don't think it's gonna be this like top 12 outside the top 10 things ridiculous that's crazy ridiculous i think he still finds a home somewhere within i'll give myself a safety net and i'll say the top seven so that's you know right on theoretically with the giants being able to pick twice so i think he's gonna find a home within the top seven. You pick it up. Number two over the although. Okay. All right. So it's true. One thing on cave on before we keep moving the evaluators I talked to and we go back and forth on players. They never ever bring up that. They don't like cave on Thibodeau's character. They don't like the person. They don't, they have a problem of him work ethic
Starting point is 00:09:41 and all those things. They just nitpick the player. Okay. So, and I think that's fair. If you want to nitpick a player, I'll never say, well, you're wrong. You're an idiot. Uh, so the character things with Kayvon Thibodeau have gotten out of control. And quite frankly, in my eyes don't exist. He's just the fact that he's not a Chase Young kind of prospect, like a lot of people wanted him to be. All right. So we're at number three overall. I see the chat. They are telling me to make a specific pick, and that is to put a little bit of heat on you and take Ike Ikuonu off the board because you took – I think that's what you should do.
Starting point is 00:10:16 You took Kayvon Thibodeau off the board at number two. Oh, I made this a lot more difficult for myself, dude. You made it way more difficult for yourself. That's life in picking's life and I think it really is so so guys in all seriousness with it being a predictive mock draft I think it's going to be tough for the Texans like if it goes like this Aiden goes one cave on Thibodeau goes two for them to pick between Trayvon Walker and Iki Okuanu I think that they're going to be in a bind I think that they're going to sit there for maybe the entire clock
Starting point is 00:10:47 that they have available for them to make this pick and just kind of go back and forth in the room. Of course, this is a scenario that I'm sure that they've talked about multiple times, but when it's live bullets, if you will, when you're really sweating for this pick, I think it's a little bit different. I'm going to go with Ike Ikuonu. I'm going to go with the offensive tackle there. They restructured Laramie Tunsil, and we thought, okay,
Starting point is 00:11:05 if they lose Laramie Tunsil before this, they're talking about trading him, then offensive tackle definitely makes sense. Guys, offensive tackle still definitely makes sense for them to really get two bookend tackles, Laramie Tunsil, Iki Ikuonu, one side and the other. I mean, that is a fantastic offensive tackle duo, no matter who's playing quarterback.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Obviously, they're going to see what they've got in Davis Mills, but I'm going to go offensive tackle. I'll go Ike Ikuonu here at number three. It's what I've zeroed in on them as well. I think it'll be Ikuonu. I think he just fits the kind of player they like. You know, a lot of people will tell you, including myself, he's at least a top two player in this draft,
Starting point is 00:11:40 and for the Texans to get that at three, they need everything. You see it in the PFF mock simulator. It's, you know, it's like kind of insulting, but also kind of serious. They need every position. All right, so number four, the New York Jets are on the clock. This is basically what Jets fans pull
Starting point is 00:11:53 as their worst nightmare on Twitter all the time. They'll say, what if Hutch, KT, and Icky are off the board? One, two, three, what do we do? I actually don't panic here in the same sense that I think a lot of people might. It's Jermaine Johnson here at number four, and some people might not be there yet with him as a player, as a top five pick. I personally am. I think he's a polished pass rusher. I think he's an excellent
Starting point is 00:12:15 run defender. I think his character is phenomenal. He's somebody that'll really set a different attitude up front for you on defense. The testing was tremendous. He's going to fit what Robert Sala wants to do on defense, and that is get upfield, pressure the quarterback, rush from that off the tackles outside shoulder. So there's probably Jets fans that are disappointed. Thibodeau is gone. Aquan is gone. They should not be disappointed with the kind of player
Starting point is 00:12:38 they're getting in Jermaine Johnson for that front four. Dude, this mock draft is fun already. We have done mock drafts for how many weeks in a row now eight different row and this one's never had ktn2 that's this one is definitely different and that's even before we're getting to the challenge portion of it and i'm gonna activate the challenge portion of it here at number five so we've got the new york giants at number five ut is at the top of the show we got a new draft order and that's why it's because and the reason is because
Starting point is 00:13:10 new orleans saints traded with the philadelphia eagles now the full stipulation of this trade the saints from the eagles in case anybody missed the details of it they are getting both picks 16 and 19 of this year's draft plus a a uh I don't know what number that is. I can't remember what number that is. But in return, the Eagles then got pick 18. So the Saints first round pick this year, a third round pick this year, a first round pick next year, and a second round pick next year. So essentially what Philly was doing is they were taking a heavily front-loaded first round in this year's draft with three first round picks and they're splitting it like thinking blackjack right when you get when you get equal numbers you're splitting it a little bit you're
Starting point is 00:13:56 doubling your chances to hit and they're getting two first round picks this year two first round picks next year as well as an extra second round pick next year so smart it's i think it's a great trade i don't know i don't know who you think won the trade off the bat but i personally think the eagles won this right off the bat because okay they want to be investing in jalen hurts for this next year but they're giving themselves a ton of security and flexibility to where if jalen hurts isn't really great they've got ammunition to move wherever they want next year when the first round comes around if they want to go get a franchise quarterback. So I don't really know
Starting point is 00:14:29 if anybody lost the trade is my overall takeaway. I think the Eagles made out the best, but I still like what the Saints did because I think the Saints are in position now where they can be flexible in this draft and really target in on a special kind of talent while not giving up all of their future. Obviously, I do believe that there is belief internally that they are still in win-now mode, that they really like their defense. They think the offense is going to be fine. Obviously, they need to replace a key player in Teron Armstead,
Starting point is 00:14:57 but the Eagles make out the best because, like you said, Trev, you're now splitting your assets. You aren't going to walk out with three first-round picks this year. You give yourself insurance if you really like a quarterback next year if Hertz doesn't have a good year. So a really savvy move by Philadelphia. Yeah, so the chat's correcting me, and they are correct on this. It's not a second-round pick for next year.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It is a second-round pick 2024. Right, so still, the ammunition is there if they want to get flexible in the first round with moving around to get a quarterback. Now, it depends what the Saints end up doing with these first two picks. Now, I think they made this trade for a reason. I think they made it because they want to get aggressive. And the reason why I think that, and the reason why I am making this move right now for them trading both 16 and 19 with the New York Giants
Starting point is 00:15:44 at number five, for the Saints York Giants at number five for the Saints to move up to number five is to select a quarterback or even an offensive tackle and the reason why I'm getting so aggressive in this mock draft here is because we heard this might be the case a week ago we had somebody tell us that this might be the case a week ago, that the Saints were already looking to move into the top 10. I think this is the way they do it. This is how they get the ammunition. If you look at the NFL draft value chart, number five overall is worth about 1,700 points. If you trade 16 and 19, that's about 1,850. So it's a little bit of an overpay, but that's right. I mean, it's never never going to be even and the team that's really aggressive is the team that's going to be overpaying anyway so the value is still within the realm of what you think would be acceptable
Starting point is 00:16:33 i'm going to have new orleans moving up and in this mock draft i'm going to have them moving up from malik willis going to get a quarterback although i will tell you guys offensive tackle could very well be on the board for them here. Whether Icky Aquanu's off the board or whether they're going with Evan Neal, whether it's Charles Cross or shoot, maybe Icky is still there. Who knows? I think New Orleans is also eyeing an offensive tackle, but either way, I think they're going to get aggressive. I'm going to hit a trade. I'm going to Malik Willis going number five overall to the New Orleans Saints. It's fun, man. And I think you're all over it. You know, obviously, like you said, we've heard the Saints, there's been a lot of rumblings of their movement
Starting point is 00:17:08 for a while. This might be a step one of a bigger plan, you know, to go up in this draft. Now I've always heard that, um, they really do believe in Jameis Winston and, you know, obviously they need to replace a true franchise player in Teron Armstead, one of the best tackles in the entire NFL. So I'd be fascinated, one, if they'd make this move for a non-quarterback in Evan Neal, whoever it may be, and two, if the Giants would be willing to do business to allow them into that pick and take an offensive lineman when we know how badly the Giants themselves need another offensive lineman.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But you go Malik Willis there. And I want to say this too because somebody in the chat is saying this why not move to seven like you don't have to pay as high of a price maybe you don't have to give up 19 as well and you just get to seven there right the reason why is because if new orleans is moving up for a quarterback they have to get in front of six that is a divisional team that is targeting a quarterback in carolina picking at number six so that's why they got to get up to five so that's my reason so that brings us to six when I'm on the clock for the Panthers and I know in uh obviously the guest mock draft series you
Starting point is 00:18:14 know when we had on um it was Jonathan Alexander right yes yeah we had yeah so we had on uh our guest took Evan Neal and thinks that they could lean tackle. And I'm not saying that's not, you know, on the table here, but I am sold that Carolina is taking a quarterback with the selection. And Malik Willis is off the board. Nice little snipe job by Trevor. And this is how the draft goes. So this is a good preview of what can happen to you.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And yeah, right, the Anisimov. But really, though, this is what can happen to you, you know, if everybody knows what you're doing. That's how it goes. So for the Panthers here, they're going to take Kenny Pickett. And now, the fascinating part to me here is, I said I believe they're taking a quarterback. I'm not convinced that we know it's for sure Malik Willis. I think there is a lot of conversations going on over there between Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis to be drafted in this spot. So this becomes a little bit easier of a decision for me because Malik Willis is gone.
Starting point is 00:19:10 They get Kenny Pickett to come in. And I'll say this for, you know, me not having a quarterback in my top 25 players in this draft, you know, for the questions of this quarterback class, Kenny Pickett in Carolina, you could do worse, man. Throwing a DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, Christian McCaffrey, you know, you know, hopefully Ter do worse, man. Throw in a DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson, Christian McCaffrey. Hopefully Terrence Marshall's healthy. I look at the Panthers in this spot and go, that's not the worst place to walk into right now in terms of weapons. So we have two quarterbacks going in the top six to get this thing going,
Starting point is 00:19:36 which I don't think is as crazy as everybody else would expect. This could very well happen on draft night. Yeah, no. Look, crazy things are going to happen in the draft, right i mean when we do mock drafts from february they're always going to look way different from the mock drafts that we do in march and now that free agency is kind of settled we have a shake up in the order we're figuring out really what teams are like i know it's smoke screen season guys but there's also some diamonds and some gems and some truth within all that smoke and all that fire and so we're
Starting point is 00:20:05 trying to sift out exactly what's real here and i think we're we're getting to that point we're getting to that point and we're into the month of april now so we're kind of figuring out that journey and so even though this mock draft looks kind of crazy here six picks in man is it right like that's the thing like i think that all of these could happen. I think all these things could happen. So we've got the New York Giants now back up on the clock at number seven. So this is their first selection. Trade it back down. They're also going to be picking at 16 and 19. So that'll make for a fun new mock draft.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Oh, this is easy for you, brother. Evan Neal's still on the board. This is easy for you. Evan Neal's still on the board. And look, Jermaine Johnson is gone. Kayvon Thibodeau's gone. Ooh, but Trayvon Walker is still there. You shouldn't even be sweating this.
Starting point is 00:20:52 You shouldn't even be sweating it. He's just yucking it up for the camera right now, folks. Okay, it's Evan Neal. Okay, it's Evan Neal. Yeah, we got there. Okay, it's Evan Neal. You're right, you're right, you're right. But you made my life easy now for the Falcons today because because it is trayvon walker right 100 100 percent yeah there's just no way that you know
Starting point is 00:21:11 they're a team that needs defensive line help um this is actually where i become a little bit more okay with trayvon walker right as a back end you know top 10 kind of selection for me he's about the 21st ranked player in this class this is still a little rich but I get the process here you're shooting for the stars with a traits based player with the eighth overall pick at a position of need for your franchise and the Falcons admittedly are not trying to win a Super Bowl this year or the next year they are trying to go play the long game here you can take a Trayvon Walker when that's your strategy so now the draft is starting to fall back into a little bit of normalcy here with Evan Neal to the Giants Trayvon Walker when that's your strategy. So now the draft is starting to fall back into a little bit of normalcy here. We'd have a deal
Starting point is 00:21:47 to the Giants, Trayvon Walker, the Falcons, and that puts you on the clock for the Seattle Seahawks at night. Yes, the ever confusing Seattle Seahawks. The team that constantly keeps us on our toes, if you will, the Seattle Seahawks. So if you guys have been listening to the guest mock draft series, or if you haven't
Starting point is 00:22:04 been listening to the guest mock draft series, one, you haven't been listening to the guest mock draft series, one, you should. Two, we had Mina Kimes on at number nine to pick for the Seattle Seahawks. And she highlighted a lot of the needs that the Seahawks have and, you know, debating like what happened between Russell Wilson and the team and what might happen with DK Metcalf and what the identity is going to be moving forward. You know, she ended up picking Derek Stingley Jr., who I love.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I have my, as my CB1 in this class. I don't know if they'd pick him over Sauce. Oh, man. And Sauce is still on the board. I think Ahmad Garner is a lock to go in the top 10 somewhere. They need a QB, but I don't think they're – I mean, with Willis and pick it off the board we're not i'm not doing that i'm not going we didn't we said sappy number nine
Starting point is 00:22:52 we said three qbs in the in the first round that was our challenge and uh wouldn't that be funny if we got three qbs into the into the top 10 i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that they need an offensive line. They need tackle. But something that you and I have heard recently is maybe the league is not as high on Charles Cross as we are. I think he's a damn good player. And could he go number nine overall? Would he be worthy of that?
Starting point is 00:23:15 I would agree. But is the league going to be as high on him? Edge rusher, you know, there's just not a good edge that I think is going to be left. Felt poorly for them. Real poorly. Right, right, right. Especially with Walker off the board. I'm going sauce garner i'm gonna go on my garner okay you know i i understand that the seattle type of corner what it used to be playing a lot more
Starting point is 00:23:33 zone some cover three stuff i i get it sauce garner is not exactly that he's much more of a man coverage prototype player but the dude's just damn good and so i think that you really you shift the secondary around what your strengths can be. And I think that they just, they're so desperate at corner. Sauce feels like a lot of people CB1 and in the league. And so I'm going to say that he stays CB1 and he goes nine to the Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. Sauce is an interesting player because when you look at the homes for him, that makes so much sense, you know, obviously starting with the Jets at four, there's a lot of belief that the Jets won't use that kind of an asset on a corner.
Starting point is 00:24:08 The Giants make a lot of sense, but we have talked about this for a long time, and obviously you made it happen tonight. The Giants very well could trade one of those picks. You know, they're a rebuilding team. They're a franchise that has hired a regime that believes in lotto tickets, the more draft picks, you draft picks you can have. It's a draft that you're not starving to pick at five and seven, right? You're okay with getting out of there because you feel like you can get enough talent later on.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They need the offensive tackle, and then everything else falls into place after that. So, you know, Sauce, the home for him seems like the Giants in the top ten, but if they don't pick twice, that's obviously going to be a little... Right, it gets tricky. It gets really, really tricky. So good to see him go off the board there at 9 to Seattle. I would not have had the Jets take him at 10, and I love Sauce, the player.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I just think they have made it so obvious. Oh, man, I thought I was going to get to do my snipe demote again. No, no sniper. No, the Jets get their pick of wide receivers here, which is what... They do? If they can't land, you know, their dream scenario of one of these guys that's due for an extension right now before the draft you know dk metcalf obviously being the one the buzzy one right now
Starting point is 00:25:14 i think this would be a wide receiver at 10 and i'll go with drake london in this spot i think they evaluate that offense and look at it and and go we need a playmaker for Zach Wilson that makes life a little easier for him. We like what we have in Elijah Moore. We believe Corey Davis will come back strong. We're going to be, you know, obviously a pretty 12 personnel heavy team paying two tight ends, but they need a jump ball threat, somebody that can just bully and dominate cornerbacks,
Starting point is 00:25:39 especially in the red zone. And that's what Drake London is. And I've heard some, you know, I know he had to push the pro day. It's going to be April 15th, his workout now. If he does everything, we'll see. He had a little bit of a hamstring issue, it sounded like, while rehabbing from that serious ankle injury. But I've heard a lot of good things in terms of what he'll run.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And I'm not saying 4-4 or 4-5, but for people that think he's going to be in the 4-6s, I've heard he'll be sub-4-6, even if it's 4-5-7. That's a great number at that time. So Drake London at 10 here, our first wide receiver off the board in this draft. And I think 8 or 10 is where you'll see the first wide receiver come off the board in this draft.
Starting point is 00:26:13 All right, so recapping the top 10 picks just here for everybody who might have joined the live stream late. And we'll give you a little recap here. How dare you? Yeah, right. One, don't let it happen again. You will be
Starting point is 00:26:25 in detention uh we had a not just going number one overall no shock there but then a little bit of a shock came on tibido going it's not so wrong me saying that that's so stupid i take that back you know what take that part yes it is that's stupid that's stupid that i have to say that it's stupid smack your head it's dumb it's dumb shame on me shame on me shame on you guys for being late shame on me for saying cave shame on you guys for being late shame on me for saying cave on tibidote number two feels like a stretch but that's what happened here in this mock job houston texas at number three took icky ikuano uh jets at four took jermaine johnson i had the new orleans saints trading all the way up to number five with the new york giants
Starting point is 00:26:57 uh so the saints took malik willis quarterback there carolina panthers right after that took quarterback kenny pickett giants at seven picking for the first time took Evan Neal, Atlanta Falcons, Trayvon Walker, Seattle Seahawks, Ahmad Garner, and the New York Jets, Drake London. Before we get to the rest of the mock drafts, we're going to get down to that as well as give you guys some non-first round picks. We're getting to the teams that don't have first round picks as well. Got to talk to you about our new presenting sponsor on this podcast, Jock Market. This is such a cool concept. I know you guys are going to love it. Their motto, stop betting, start trading.
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Starting point is 00:28:39 That is jockmarket.com backslash PFF. I am up now with the washington commanders i'm really curious what you do here by the way i'm i have two players in mind but i'm not going to say either of them because i'm very curious to see what you do should i should i pull the audience on this one i you know what i don't hate it i would if i were you that's how torn i am between the two maybe maybe three players, but two of them played the same position. Who are the three players? Who are the three players?
Starting point is 00:29:09 Kyle Hamilton. Okay. Garrett Wilson. Okay. Yeah. And Traylon Burks. Oh, man. I think it's a little early for Traylon because, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:21 obviously the testing disappoints people. Jameson was healthy. No-brainer. No-brainer. No-brainer. But I think they care about getting a guy in there now that can play. And then Hamilton's talent, they could use him. But I... Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:29:36 You know, when you look at how Terry McCorn is... I think I'm leaning... I think I'm leaning... I'm leaning Wilson. But I don't hate Hamilton. Those are the two that I'm thinking about. Those are the two that I'm leaning Wilson, but I don't hate Hamilton. Those are the two that I'm thinking about. Those are the two that I'm thinking about because I don't,
Starting point is 00:29:50 Traylon Burks, I like, but Antonio Gibson is already a player who I feel like you can use as a wide receiver out of the backfield, right? And for as much as it's fun, like the Madden kid in all of us loves like the, ooh, just positionless players everywhere. How many of those touches do you get? You really maxing on that. Right, right, right, right. fun like the madden kid in all of us loves like the oh just positionless players everywhere how
Starting point is 00:30:05 many of those touches do you get he really maxing like that right right right right and all right okay all right all right let's let's let's put a poll in the chat let's put a poll in the chat oh all right fun we can talk about something else garrett wilson kyle hamilton there we go the chat is up there this is my phone a fan is that what you is that what you call it phone a fan instead of phone a friend so vote it's in the chat right now Garrett Wilson or Kyle Hamilton those are the two people that we're deciding between here for Washington you know interior offensive line is also a need for them but I don't think the Tyler Linderbaum is going to go this high I think the league really likes Zion Johnson but I'm not so sure that he also goes this high the only
Starting point is 00:30:44 other player that I was really thinking about is a realistic opportunity here is devin lloyd because i think devin lloyd is good enough to go this high however they just picked jaymond davis in the first round last year are they really about to pull an arizona cardinals and be a bad team that drafts linebacker in back-to-back seasons. I don't see it. I don't see it. So we're going, all right, I guess I get to vote in this poll too, right? I get to vote in this poll.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I guess you get to vote in this poll too. I just opened it right now. That's why I've just been staring downward this whole time. And I don't know. You know, it's like trying to, I am listening to you, and I'm staring at the poll, and I'm staring at the comments. There are a lot of Kyle Hamilton fans for them. Oh, man. I'm going to give this 30 more seconds.
Starting point is 00:31:35 All right, I voted. Oh, wow. Those results aren't even close. Do you think that it was going to be way more than that? I thought it was going to be pretty even. I voted Kyle Hamilton, and he's blowing it out of the water. What's he at? What is he?
Starting point is 00:31:47 62%. 62%. Oh, man. All right, we got about 15 seconds left. If anybody wants to stuff the ballots, if anybody wants to call Garrett Wilson's extended family and get him to just hammer the ballots here, man, Kyle Hamilton is only going up the longer we're waiting here.
Starting point is 00:32:01 So I guess we got a minute to go on this, but this is what it's going to be. It's going to be Kyle Hamilton. I don't think that Garrett Wilson is going to pass him. We're going to hit over 200 votes. And think of the athletes on that defense, man, dude,
Starting point is 00:32:11 wild, why, why? And I know Jamie Davis didn't have a good rookie season, but just think of the athleticism on that defense. People, people in the, in the comments are saying that they've already got Terry McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And I think that people think that Terry McLaurin and Garrett Wilson are similar skill sets. But still, I mean, they just have to get better at receiver. You know what I always say, though, about that? Because I've run into that problem, too. And I totally get what everyone's saying. I run into it when, you know, picking a wide receiver for any team. You know how awesome it is to have two Terry McLaurins? Like, on an offense.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Two guys that can just separate they're slippery they're great at tracking body control um but i get it i get what they mean they would have liked drake london but he went to 10 there was a surge at the end whoa for garrett wilson stands but ultimately the chat chose 59% to 41%. That made up a pretty good amount of ground from when I voted. I know. I know. We were all the way up to, I think, like 64% for Kyle Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:33:12 So late push by Wilson, but we're going with Kyle Hamilton here as my phone-a-fan at number 11 for the Washington Commanders. Oh, man. That was fun. That was good. I can't wait for you to have yours. That was good. That was really fun. I'm looking right now because I'm on the clock for Minnesota. I'm loving this live mock draft, man. That was fun. That was good. I can't wait for you to have yours. That was good. That was really fun.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm looking right now because I'm on the clock for Minnesota. I'm loving this live mock draft, man. We're going to have to do this more. I am too. I really like the phone a fan option. The poll was a cool idea. All right, so we got the Vikings. And, man, this is tricky, right?
Starting point is 00:33:40 You know what? I wanted to do a trade after this pick, but with logic, I can't sell it. My thought was to present to you at 13, New England at 21, to come up to 13. Obviously, there's a relationship there with Houston. Swap 21 for 13 and trade their second rounder. I think the trade value is pretty money with that as well.
Starting point is 00:34:06 That would have been pick 54 to come up for Derek Stingley. New England's defense needs a man-to-man corner in the worst way. But Trevor, I can't pass him here for the Vikings. It's just, there's a lot of risk. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of risk with Stingley. He's not a top 15 player for me because of that risk.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I don't bet on risk with corners. I stopped doing that. It just burned me so many times, and maybe I'll be dead wrong. But for the Vikings, this is a risk that I think they would consider taking because the talent is tremendous, and it's such a premium need for them. So Derek Stingley, 12th overall to the Vikings. I love the chat. I love reading you guys's live reactions to these picks because back to back in classic social media fashion
Starting point is 00:34:50 we have Cam and then Brendan Cam said Stingley the fuck and then Brendan said Stingley the vikes 100% so there you go that's mock drafting that is drafting. That's it right there. So, all right. And I agree with both of them. I agree. Derek Stingley has no business. You can't agree with both of them. He has no business going 12th overall, but I think he would. Already said Zimmer will not pass on Stingley. Well.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I got news for you, brother. On his Madden dynasty, maybe. Zimmer doesn't have to. Zimmer ain't making the pick anymore. Okay. Houston at 13. All right. So Houston had.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Oh, this is. Ikuonu at three. This should be trade central, this pick. You think? Because. I made a trade already. You want to make a trade? I might propose a trade to you.
Starting point is 00:35:41 We had John McClain on, and he was very anti the chance of them taking a wide receiver in this spot and I'll say this actually I'm not even I'm going to change my mind on the fly Trevor somebody should come up and get Charles Cross in this spot and the Texans already took a Kwanu so it's not them the question is who's who's looking to do business to get Cross the Chargers Chargers is 17 I think the chargers let's let's dive into a little draft value here okay all right get on the live block you get the brain moving not as fast as it should but these are these are these are two odd numbered picks and so i ultimately have control
Starting point is 00:36:19 but i'm listening i'm listening to the proposal i'm gonna lean back i'm gonna lean kind of backseat driving your selection which is rude of me. But I just, here we go. All right. So a swap of 17 for 13. Okay. I receive. You receive.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Great meme. 79. I'll throw in there. That's their third round pick. It's right in the heart of the third round. It's actually kind of early in the third round. It's not a bad third rounder. So that bumps up your value chart
Starting point is 00:36:49 where you're pretty damn close, honestly. But I'll throw in a sweetener for you. I'll throw in pick 160, their fifth rounder. So the Chargers are trading their third and their fifth to get up to 13 and take Charles Cross. Do the Chargers have a second round pick next year because i'll oh let's see next year next year okay i would i would do that because i would i would do that i would i would swap first round picks this year and a second round pick next year
Starting point is 00:37:18 because the texans already have two third round picks so they don't need they don't class would be too big for them they need future picks you're right good good thinking good thinking right if they have a second round pick i got you then all right so they do they have they have all of their picks next year besides their sixth rounder because the khalil mac trade yes do you see the poll no no i'm going i'm opening it i'm opening it right now the poll? No, no, I'm opening it. I'm opening it right now. The poll is literally Stingley to the Vikes or Stingley TF. That's really good. We're having way too much fun with this.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I would vote for both if I could, just to remind you. Okay, right. Yeah, yeah. You would cop out and vote for both. Yes, it's like the Alave jahan dots in 5a 5b that i opened our podcast relationship so so okay so we'll do this trade and i will give you the ability to pick for the los angeles chargers they're swapping first round picks 13 to 17 but houston also gets an additional second round pick next year yeah it's money for them who you
Starting point is 00:38:24 so you who you take charles cross okay all right all right if you're a chargers fan and i would love that poll to be up there uh for the four of you watching chargers fans i would love for you to vote how jacked up you are right now i really uh i think that would be such a slam dunk for them. Getting across at right tackle, man. And that cost, who cares? You're in it to win it right now. 100%. I totally agree with you.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I totally agree with you. I like that. I like that, man. Okay, so then you're back on the clock because you got Baltimore at 14. So then you're back on the clock there. Yeah, all right. So Baltimore here. Oof, man.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Let's catch up on the old simulator. This one actually is not that hard for me in this spot it's going to be jordan davis now yeah you know there's some good players on the board i've argued that they still need another wide receiver but i look at that defense and what they've lost and we're going to go jordan davis here not overthink it get a kind of a rare dude in the middle of it that can you know do a lot of things for your run defense and get blockers off of those edge defenders as well eagles at 15 so the eagles now have 15 and 18 so they don't have they don't have 15 16 and 19 anymore they just have 15 and 18 when i say just have i mean yeah you got two first round picks. So yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Bears out here fighting for their life. Rams out here. Couldn't even sniff the first. Dolphins and Rams. Not with top 100 picks. Um, Eagle. Hold on. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Incredible. And I, the, some of the comments section. And so you missed it. I said that for the four chargers fans in the, watching the show, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:04 to vote how jacked up they were and a comment from adam ashbrook says ouch there's at least seven of us so good that's how you take a joke that's like there yeah this is this is okay so the this board is falling kind of incredibly for philadelphia right they've got george carloft is still on the board yep well well okay i like carla do you not like who left us at all he's okay i wouldn't walk out of the draft and be like man we just got a dude up front i'd be like cool we gotta start i like george but they also have garrett wilson jameson williams oh yeah monte wyatt nikobi dean devin lloyd like there are all these dudes if i was smart about this which i am i was gonna say are
Starting point is 00:40:53 you not i you know what i'm gonna take the challenge even further i want to pull the chat i want to pull the chat let's go let's go garrett wilson let's go jameson Let's go Jamison Williams. And then do you want to go Devin Lloyd and George Karloftis? Do we think those are probably the best bets? Do you have Jamo in there? Yes. Yeah, you got to have Jamo in there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Garrett Wilson, Jamison Williams, George Karloftis, Devin Lloyd. And I want the people to tell me who they want. I might not listen to you because I don't have to anymore because I already got that out of the way. But I do want to know what the chat thinks. So let's pull up the chat there. Let's see if we can get the four-person poll. I'm already just reading the comments.
Starting point is 00:41:36 They're so funny. They're so funny. You guys are on one tonight. This is a lot of fun. I feel- Oh, I had first vote. Just want to make that clear. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:44 First, I do sort of feel bad for the people that are listening to this the day after on audio only format um terrible experience sorry but that just means you gotta you gotta watch the the next youtube one or watch it that way because this is uh this has been a lot of fun for us so i think those are a lot of mcduffie love in the comments wasn't expecting that. I didn't think the Eagles would want another small corner. I love McDuffie. I think McDuffie's a phenomenal prospect. He's just, you know, the arm length is short. The overall height is short.
Starting point is 00:42:14 He wasn't the fastest guy out there, which if you're going to be small, you've got to be fast. And so he didn't, like, blow you away with the speed. But the tape is fantastic. He's one of the smartest dudes in the draft. I mean, like, I'd bet on this dude to be a multi-year pro in the nfl for a long long time but i i'm just surprised that the eagles would want another small corner because that's been their mo the whole time and they still have a corner need so all right i don't think you have
Starting point is 00:42:36 to take him here i think you can you roll the dice and hope that he's there at 18 if you love him that much and i think he will be we got one minute to go we got over 200 votes already and the wide receivers okay the wide receivers are absolutely pulling away with this so if you have not voted yet in the chat vote between the two wide receivers vote between jameson williams or garrett wilson because those are the only two that are going to win karloftis and devin lloyd aren't to win this one. Man, there's a lot of love for McDuffie. I'm really pleasantly surprised by this. But yeah, I mean, Jamison, oh man, that's a great investment for them if they can get Jamison. It rounds out that offense so much. 99 Gang Green
Starting point is 00:43:20 reminds us that the Eagles haven't drafted a linebacker in the first round since the Titanic hit the iceberg. That is a great historical reference iceberg that is a great historic that is a fact you actually you actually oh man this is getting close this is getting close who'd you vote for i voted for jameson williams who's losing right now by i also voted for jameson williams garrett wilson the garrett wilson family members stuck around after they lost yeah they were they were revenge they were absolutely pissed. I didn't even think about that. Okay, so we got to keep things moving here.
Starting point is 00:43:49 I know we got two minutes to go on the poll, but I think I'm going to give it to Garrett Wilson. Garrett Wilson's pulling ahead here, 40%, 37%. He's leading by three. If we have a miraculous Jamison Williams comeback, then that's on me. But I'm going to go with Garrett Wilson. We'll go Garrett Wilson here at, what is this, 15?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah, 15 for the Philadelphia Eagles. And I believe the Giants are on the clock, correct? They are on the clock, yes. You are up with the Giants. Wow. That is, I didn't think I'd get to pick for them, but thanks to the trade. All right, so Garrett Wilson goes 15th.
Starting point is 00:44:19 The Giants are on the clock for the Saints. Wow, so the Giants are going to walk out of here with three first-rounders. That is an incredible new beginning for Joe Shane's regime. And the board is kind of pretty for them right now. I'm going to be honest with you. This is
Starting point is 00:44:33 pretty awesome for the New York Giants here. And I'm torn. But I'm not going to overthink it, Trevor. Okay. I'm going to take Tylerthink it, Trevor. Okay. I'm going to take Tyler Linderbaum here. And I know they signed Feliciano to be a center for a year. I know they got Glowinski.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I know they have Andrew Thomas and now Evan Neal. But Feliciano can play guard. And I would feel really good about this Giants offensive line. You add Evan Neal and Linderbaum to it, and you still have a first-round pick, man. Giants fans are going to... I think they're going to like this. I could be very wrong, but... There is a possibility that you could be very wrong.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I could be both. Wow, what a diabolical poll. They're pitting us against each other. What was the poll? Best hair. Best hair? And it's almost 9 at night. We're not equipped us against each other. What was the poll? Best hair. Best hair? And it's almost 9 at night. We're not equipped for this right now.
Starting point is 00:45:29 But I see Edge for New York Giants in the end Lloyd. They could still get Devin Lloyd. That's my thinking for those that are upset. I passed Devin Lloyd. I think you're still going to get him. Anyway, Edge, not great right now. I got the Houston Texans now up at number 17 because we had the Chargers trading up to 13
Starting point is 00:45:47 where Houston was to go to Charles Cross. Houston's now back on the board at 17. They picked Icky Ikuonu. We got Trent McDuffie on the board. George Karloftis on the board. Man, George Karloftis seems like their type for sure. I think they're going to need a wide receiver. There's talk about Brandon Cooks maybe not
Starting point is 00:46:06 being there for much longer, whether he's traded immediately or not. They can be patient with Jamison. They can be patient with Jamison. I'm going to go with Jamison. Yep. Houston's coming away in this draft with Iki Ikuanyu and
Starting point is 00:46:21 Jamison Williams. It's a dub. It's bonkers. It's an absolute dub. And an extra second It's bonkers. It's an absolute dub. And an extra second round pick next year. It's an absolute dub. I'm in awe at the size of this dub for Houston. Alright, so the Eagles are on the clock. This couldn't be easier for me. It's going to be Trent McDuffie. And, you know, like I said, I think you can
Starting point is 00:46:37 get the wide receiver at 15. There's less risk on waiting on McDuffie. So the Eagles walk out. For all of you that really wanted him at 15, you got the best of both worlds here. McDuffie added the Eagles secondary with all the extra capital they got for the future to still walk out of this draft with Garrett Wilson and Trent McDuffie.
Starting point is 00:46:53 That's really great long-term sustainability for Philadelphia. Okay, so the Giants takeaways right now we've got Evan Neal, Tyler Linderbaum. Karloftis is still there. But they're going to need corner, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:47:18 They just did something weird. Look at the corner board. They just did something weird with, who was it, Dory Jackson's contract? Yeah, he got a void year tacked on, and a lot of his money pushed out of this year into next year. Is that because they're trying to keep Bradbury? That had to be, right? Dude, they need so much money for their draft class right now.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Like, so much money. Maybe. What are they at? Hold on, let me look. Like the red line last time I looked? That might have helped a lot, that move today. Okay, cap space. The Giants are...
Starting point is 00:47:50 I am loving the split opinions on the Linderbaum pick. Some people love it. Some people despise it. Their effective cap space is negative 5.7 million. Yeah, the red line. But that probably didn't factor in the Adore move yet because it probably didn't process yet. Well,
Starting point is 00:48:09 effective cap space is projecting the rookie class as well. There you go. So, they're still 5.7 down, but they might be trying to keep Bradbury out here. They should. I mean, Wink needs corners. Okay, so I'm going to go linebacker then for the giants devin
Starting point is 00:48:26 lloyd's right there i think i'm gonna go devin lloyd i think i'm gonna go devin lloyd here this is a sick draft for the giants yeah so they got a stupid draft damn good players evan neal tyler linderbaum devin lloyd not it's not who people think would go to the giants after trade back but those are three damn good football players and i I'm going to stand by it. I'm going to stand by it. All right, so the Steelers are on the clock at 20. Both quarterbacks I think they would go after are gone, so we're just going to go into this year riding with Mitch Trubisky. They're going to kick the quarterback can down the road and hope to get involved in a better class and hope Mitch works out, and rather than just using the 20th pick on a quarterback for the sake of taking a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:49:06 which I just don't agree with at all. So for the Steelers here, it's going to be tackle for me. I'm going to look at that offensive line, try to add to that offensive line. Oh, we're not going QB. We're not going to go QB. We're not. That could have rounded out the challenge.
Starting point is 00:49:22 We could have checked it off. No. I know. Which is going to make it a lot harder later. I just can't do that to Steelers fans. And I would like to see them in the comments. Like, who are you taking here? That you're like, this is our franchise.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Ritter. You're taking a pink slip. You're getting fired is what you're doing. I agree. Did a Greece reference raise it for pinks? No. Who's this guy? All right, we're taking Trevor Penning.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah, who are you taking? Trevor Penning. You know, obviously, I think he's somebody that could be overdrafted. If he goes before cross, that's insane to me. There's a lot of, you know, obviously out there that could happen. But this feels like a nice soft landing spot for Trevor Penning in this draft of the Steelers. And he'll be a starter for them right away.
Starting point is 00:50:14 New England Patriots at 21. I understand they just traded for Devontae Parker. But, you know, I understand that Adam Schefter tried to put out the hype tweet after that. Like, ooh, look at all the wide receivers on the Patriots roster now. And it's mid. I don't know how else to tell it to you. It's just a list full of mid.
Starting point is 00:50:34 So I feel like the move at wide receiver makes me think that they're going to go corner here instead. I agree. Problem is. I would love to pick Chris Olave for this team, but it's a predictive mock, and I don't think they're going to do it. I think they're going to pick a corner. But if they did take a wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:50:58 I think it would be him. I agree. I agree. I think this is a toss-up, I think, here between Olave and whoever their preferred corner is going to be, which I believe that at this point in time, it would be Kair Elam. So I'd probably be taking Kair Elam.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Pressman corner fits what they do. It makes too much sense for them. And for as much as I, again, like I'm saying this to you guys, I don't think the Devontae Parker move for them is like, oh, cool, wide receiver's fixed now. Don't have to worry about it. Does not change your draft. I think it probably means
Starting point is 00:51:28 they're going to lean corner in the first round and then go wide receiver later in the draft. So that's why Kyriel, I'm going 21 to the New England Patriots. Alright, so Kyriel, like I said, I was going to try to have him come up for Stingley, but he went too early. You won the better hair pull? Did I?
Starting point is 00:51:45 Wow, this is going to cause some friction. Thanks, guys. He's not going to be thrilled. I'm taking PTO the rest of the week. I'm taking PTO. Come back with a new style. You got like a Tennessee waterfall coming up. I'm out here leaning on the chat to make my first selection,
Starting point is 00:52:02 and they're just betraying me. Which I haven't phoned i haven't phoned a friend yet um phone a fan phone a fan they're also friends they can go both ways all right so the packers clearly they're your friends they said you have better hair than me i love the chat um all right the packers are on the clog at 22. I'm thinking wide receiver across the board here. Alabe's there. Traylon Burks is there. Christian Watson is there.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Man, dude. You know what? You can phone a fan on this one. You know what? I will. Let's throw up the three wide receivers between, you know what? And to make it, to to just throw this we can make the fourth player davante wyatt um because i don't think it's out of the realm to suggest they can take a deal yeah yeah davante wyatt chris alabe trailing burks and christian watson i know christian watson's become
Starting point is 00:52:58 a hot name amongst their fan base he has some big time fans in the sea packers take davante white in all oh man a lot of love for a lot no no now now we're smashing olave yeah yeah we gotta all right put the pole up put the pole up i want to see how fat yeah there it is there it is there it is there it is oh that's great i was first i voted for trailing burks just to keep it balanced. Traylon Burks is not going to win the poll! Yeah, but I like to be balanced. Olave's simple. Okay, so Olave is off the way. See, I like this comment
Starting point is 00:53:33 from Dylan Terriman. It says, Olave is easy, but not what Goody covets. I agree. That's why it wasn't a slam dunk. Goody? That is the Packers GM for those I agree. That's why it wasn't a slam dunk. Goody. Goody. That is the Packers GM for those at home that think,
Starting point is 00:53:48 who the hell are they talking about? Brian Goon Coons, folks. Keep up. Come on, keep up. Why it is too old in the comments? Old? There's a lot of age police consuming draft content. Okay, so the best is always like in like november
Starting point is 00:54:05 and october when people are trying to like search people's age for the very first time and if you looked up jordan davis's age i know back in back in like november or october a it would it would google it would come up and it would say jordan davis is 26 years old yeah and it would have all the information wrong and say that it would say jordan davis is 26 years old yeah and it would have all the information wrong and say that it was the jordan davis that you were thinking of plays defensive line at georgia but it was google was pulling the wrong data from a former tight end at georgia yeah named jordan davis who is now 26 i think 27 years old now so it would so jordan davis's picture the one that we're thinking of would show up and then it would say 26 years old
Starting point is 00:54:51 but in reality people ran with it right and they just ran with it and i remember like talking with people online and they're like no you can't draft jordan davis he's a grown-ass man already no wonder why he's beating up on little kids he's 26 years old i'm like what are you talking about he was in the he was in the 2019 recruiting class. What was he? 22 when he was graduating high school? Brandon Whedon of Defensive Linemen. 27-year-old rookie. So, Joel Martinez has a comment
Starting point is 00:55:13 in here. Traylen Burke's big body receivers have been the M.O. for the Packers. I agree with you, Joel. I am going to, though, defer to the phone a fan because it's only fair that their poll wins. And Alave ran away with it, by the way. He did. Totally ran only fair that their poll wins and a lot of they ran away with it by the way he did totally ran away with that i i don't i think they would take uh burks or watson but a lot of these here no problem with it good value in this spot yeah i really do
Starting point is 00:55:36 i think they do value the i guess yeah you're right you're right i'll tell you this right now too they care so much about blocking up there that, like, Alave's a great player. Gets open, good tracking, fast. He's a slender guy. And they care about that body type where it'd be interesting. But, phone to fans. They went with Alave.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Alave at 22 to the Packers. Trevor, you're on the clock with Arizona. Somebody in the comments just said, Connor, can you talk Mets so really quick? Connor, what is the record can you talk Mets? So really quick, Connor, what is the record projection for the Mets? Just give it. I don't want any explanation.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I don't want any context. You just tell me the record. What are they finishing with? 90 wins. All right, there it is. There you go, folks. Somebody asked, look, don't say we don't ever do anything for the chat.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah. Because we do. I read the comments. We're always here for the chat. Arizona Cardinals are up at number 23. I think this one's kind of a slam dunk with zion johnson uh i think that he's just too good of a prospect for them they need too much help on the interior offensive line unless i'm totally forgetting an offensive line addition that they had in free agency am i i don't think no it's still a big need for them okay Okay. I don't, I'm hitting the depth chart just to make sure that I'm not. Always a good idea.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Here's the, shoot. They added Will Hernandez. That's not changing your draft plan. No, no, no. Okay, that's definitely not changing. All right, Rodney Hudson, Will Hernandez. Hey, they could go defensive line. Like, if they wanted to go defensive line, they could.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Karloff, this is there. Watt is there, but, or Wyatt why it is there sorry not what watt is already there uh in arizona but i'm keeping it i'm keeping it we're going zion johnson i like that pick man i think that'd be huge it's huge for them yeah it's just rock solid which they need after picking linebacker in back-to-back years so dallas is on the clock and before we went on the air i uttered the phrase to trevor i see a lot of people talking about the cowboys taking trailing burks no chance he makes it to 24 i said you did verbatim say no chance he makes it 24 which i did i disagreed with you when we were talking to the pre-show,
Starting point is 00:57:46 I think it's realistic to think that Traylon Burks is going to go somewhere in the 20s. I think that's realistic. So the Cowboys are on the clock at 24. I do not like the offensive linemen on the board for them right now. I'm going to take Traylon Burks. I don't care. And it's also like i kind of have to after you know getting pantsed by saying that so so trailing burks the dallas man that would be sick
Starting point is 00:58:14 honestly that would be really sick him cd and gallop that's that's what dak needs it'd be a lot of fun okay so we're to the portion of the show where remember guys there's also another trade stipulation that we are doing here where we have to have one trade for a team jumping back into the first round to select somebody so we're sitting here uh at number 25 for the buffalo bill so this is the territory where we start to really get into this so keep that in mind as we kind of go through the draft and as you're thinking future picks picks that we see throughout this first round, Buffalo Bills are on the clock at 25. I think this is a boring pick because it happens with them all the time, but Andrew Booth is perfect for them. I think, I think he just rounds out what they have there.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Tredavious White on one side, Andrew Booth on the other, that incredible secondary safety pair behind them. This defense is all of a sudden ready to hang with a lot of these top offenses that they're going to go up against. We know the offense is great as well. They could use a wide receiver, but they can get one later in the draft. Go get the corner here. Go get Andrew Booth. Address that CB2 need because you're going to be in a lot of shootouts this year.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Get your secondary some help. I think Andrew Booth is one of the more underrated or under the radar top talents in this class. I like him a lot. So I'm going to have him go in here to Buffalo at 25. All right, the Bills, that makes a lot of sense, dude. Corner for them. I mean, they probably pray McDuffie makes it to them.
Starting point is 00:59:34 It might not happen. Yeah, I don't think that'll happen. But, you know, back to the Cowboys pick because I kind of breezed through it. I think they can get some of that offensive line help later on if they just felt Burks was too good to pass up. And we've seen them do that before at wide receiver. So 26, the Titans, they that offensive line help later on if they if they just felt Berks was too good to pass up and we've seen them do that before at wide receiver so 26 the Titans they need offensive line help as well uh the two players for me in this spot were either Kenyon Green or Bernard Raymond who I think both of them as rookies might play guard in this scenario but I'll go with Kenyon
Starting point is 00:59:59 Green because the film at guard already is so good. He has that powerhouse ability, that grip strength to move people out of the way in that Tennessee run game. So for the Titans here, Kenyon Green, they'd be very fortunate if he makes it to this spot. I think he's a really nice fit for Dallas, but Burke's falling changed that. Zion went to Arizona. So for Tennessee, Kenyon Green is,
Starting point is 01:00:20 that's a big time pick for that rush attack. And he can play four spots in the offensive line, but he plays at a really high level at guard he can and i'm i'm really looking forward to seeing what canyon green can be in the nfl when he gets to devote himself to one position now i think there's there's a chance that he could have a bit of an elton jenkins path that we've seen with the packers where everywhere he's basically got to play everywhere because offensive line unfortunately you're just taking so much abuse every single game in the trenches that it's bound to happen right somebody's going to get hurt and if your best move is to move Kenyon Green to somewhere
Starting point is 01:00:53 that that might end up being the case but I hope he finds a home somewhere and really gets to hone in on one spot because I think that he can be a really talented offensive lineman and I think the best could be yet to come for him if that's the case buccaneers are on the clock at 27 i couldn't sprint this car in fast enough if the board fell like this dominican sue has not been re-signed yet davante wyatt is on the board not even thinking twice about it this absolutely has to be the pick i think there's obviously still a chance that Sue comes back. I think Sue wants to come back. He'll have to be a little bit flexible with the Bucs
Starting point is 01:01:28 because they're in a situation where they're bringing a ton of talented guys back. But if they're not able to bring him back, I know that the Bucs are looking for more of a speed, one gap, penetrating, three-tech defensive tackle to play next to Vitavia. That's exactly what Devontae Wyatt is. If he makes it to 27, I really feel like the Bucs,
Starting point is 01:01:48 I mean, top two spots for them are still interior offensive line, even with the additions that they had there, or interior defensive line. So here Wyatt's on the board. You got to go with Devontae Wyatt at 27. Yeah, I had a feeling that's where you were going to go. That one feels a little too easy for them. And the Bucs are in a situation where if one of wyatt or travis jones or someone like that
Starting point is 01:02:08 falls into their lap it's kind of feels like the right and i know you're more on the they need somebody that can penetrate shoot gaps maybe they don't view jones that way but um all right so i don't think they view jones that way okay i like travis jones and travis jones would be fun as hell next to vita vea because it's like okay good luck getting up the A gap and the B gap. Yeah. You're not going to be able to. Yeah. I don't think they're going to be as high on him. Okay. So the Packers are on the clock. They took a lobby. That was the phone a fan. Um, so here's the question, Trevor, do we only have one phone a fan each or can we just use them as we please no you can look i think we're seeing that there are a lot of passionate packers okay in the chat so if you want to give
Starting point is 01:02:51 them a poll go ahead okay i mean you have free reign to do that if you want to do that all right so i'll tell the packers fans what i'm thinking here but then i'm going to propose the poll okay all right with their offensive lineman especially aging a little bit on the left side i'm thinking bernard raymond i was going to, say the players first so they can get the poll up, and then we can break it down a little bit. Okay, so Bernard Raymond is going to be on this poll. Okay. David Ajabo will be on this poll.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I think that's a really interesting spot for them. Mm-hmm. Man, that kind of starts to fall off the cliff. We'll put Karl Loftus on there as well. Okay, he's still on the board. To still be fair because that's a value spot and we'll put nicobe dean as the last one oh what about lewis c and no i guess probably nicobe dean over lewis yeah they've invested in safety yeah using them out um and i don't want them doubling up a wide receiver here so i kept the wide receivers off the board you know and, and I probably should have put Travis Jones on in that spot,
Starting point is 01:03:45 but we got the poll here. You idiot. I'm an idiot. The poll is already live. All right. And dead even. Poll is live. Dead even at 0%.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Somebody asked about Kenyon Green. He's gone. He got drafted to the Titans. Kenyon Green is gone. Sorry about that. It would have been really fun for Green Bay. Can't happen. So, yeah. Okay. These are the two that Green Bay. Can't happen. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Okay, these are the two that I figured it would be between. Me too. The value of Karloftis is nice for Green Bay in this spot. And Green Bay fans want to win now, so they're probably not thinking about stashing a Jabo, which is why he's not doing so hot. Right. But, but, but, but
Starting point is 01:04:21 the NFC East is easy as hell. And the NFC the NFC East is easy as hell. And the NFC North is going to be easy as hell. So it's not like they need Ojabo immediately. That's fair. Not that we've got to pick him. Oh, I like how you're thinking. I'm just saying, they don't need him immediately. This is so tight.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Raymond, 33%. Whoa. This is 32. Whoa. 167 votes in. People are saying, why not grab watson they picked just don't think they would and don't forget this this is a mock that we are trying to think what teams are going to do still they took a lave um i think i think it's fun what you're saying take two wide receivers i'm not against it i don't think they will people are not not happy that Raymond will be 25 this year.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Once again, once again, I am telling you or trying to explain what could very well happen. Bernard Raymond is going in the first round. He's not a first round player for me. You don't have to evaluate him as a first rounder. You could say he's 25, all of these things. He's going in the first round. And we are always on this show going to be honest where players are going. You don't remember.
Starting point is 01:05:30 You don't have to take the fans' advice here. Not on this one because I already used the poll where I did. Right, correct, correct, correct. You can tell them to shove it if you want. Respectfully. I wouldn't do that to our listeners. Respectfully. Respectfully. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Tyler Smith, Matthew Gilroy put in the comments. Good call, Matt Gilroy. Tyler Smith should have been on that poll as well and somebody that I think could go in the first round. So I like you throwing that in there. Definitely possible. I see some people suggesting a second-round wide receiver. Not a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I bet they really like the edge from Penn State, says Ty. That guy, that would be Arnold Ibikati. So yeah, this is... All right, so Karloftis wins. And I'm going to go with the fans in that spot. Okay. He won by a good margin. He pulled away at 37% versus 31%.
Starting point is 01:06:16 So Karloftis finally comes off the board to Green Bay at 28%. We know how much they value defensive line. You know, Zedarius... Well, they let Zedarius go. They cut him. I know they re-signed Preston. They have Rashawn Gary, but it's a defensive line that they're loading up. So Karloft is off the board at 28.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You are on the clock for the Chiefs here. Are you staying in this pick? Because I need to remind you of something. Yes. What are you reminding me of? We need a third quarterback to go off the board. We do need a third quarterback to go off the board. And one of these Chiefs picks, I think,
Starting point is 01:06:46 is where somebody should trade into for that quarterback. Fifth-year option. Chiefs picking back-to-back. They'll probably trade one. Let me look at Chiefs' future picks. Let me see what they got here. Yeah, but the thing is that the Chiefs already have two first-round picks. It's got to be for next year.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Next year draft. Man, and they have two third-round picks. Oh, they're loaded up. And they have two fourth-round picks. What? Yeah, they're loaded up because of the Tyreek trade. Okay, so they're going a second-rounder next year. Okay, hold on one sec.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Because there is a team that i'm thinking about moving back to the first round there's a specific team and if they have oh they do have the capital next year oh they got the capital next year okay but are the chiefs gonna want to move back out of the first round just for a second round pick next year knowing that they don't pick until when's the chief's next pick that's the biggest issue for me 50 it's 50 yeah because that's so that they got in the tyreek trade 50 so late it's not great you know what no no no no you know what i see now we got a better idea no you're right you're right you said this is why we do these exercises you sold me that it
Starting point is 01:08:12 makes no sense for the chiefs to keep moving back it doesn't it doesn't take the good players i mean well done trevor i you walked that one back for me i'm like nah don't do it uh i'm gonna go wide receiver here for them need a wide wide receiver. Oh, without a doubt. Board could be worse. I'll say that right now. Board could be worse. Christian Watson still on the board. George Pickens still on the board.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Jahan Dotson still on the board. Sky Moore is still on the board. That might be where I'm going here. Let me check this depth chart here. Hold on. You won't run a wide receiver poll, coward. Why? Okay, look, you can run the poll if you want.
Starting point is 01:08:49 George Pickens, Christian Watson, Sky Moore, John Dotson. You can run the poll if you want. Moderators, it's up to you. Good people, it's up to you. Right now, their wide receivers without Tyreek Hill are marquez valdez scantling miko hardman juju smith schuster josh gordon cornell powell gary deeter gary's fountain justin watson it doesn't get any prettier folks yeah they could use a guy and you know especially the way the juju deal and mbs deals are structured you know they need they need a guy that's a long-term block there.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Oh, our poll left off Christian Watson. Oh, somebody said trading for Metcalf. Well, yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat. If it's Seattle? Right, that's the thing. It's a late pick, man. Maybe. I'm not ruling it out completely.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Wait, what's the Seahawks' other picks, though? Because I just realized how loaded the Chiefs were later in the draft. Okay, so Seattle has 9, 40, 41, and 72 in the first two days. Okay. So they do have two second-round picks, a third-round pick. Hmm. They quietly need a lot. Who are the Seahawks yeah brother it ain't quiet I don't know I don't know I don't know
Starting point is 01:10:14 quiet you're talking about you definitely ain't quiet Chiefs fans loving the thought of a Jabba with one I just I just don't think i think okay let me like can i make it can i make it a piece packed with you ojabo has to be one of these picks if i don't pick him here i'm taking him at 30 if you don't take okay okay okay like that makes me i'm hoping you don't take him just so i don't even have to think about the pick and we can move on to some craziness at the end of this draft okay i'm going to christian i'm going
Starting point is 01:10:42 christian watson then at 29. I'm going Christian Watson. Christian Watson in that offense is awesome. Size, speed, play breaks down, he's got the juice to get upfield. I'm going with a Jabo. The tape is rough sometimes. He's got to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I'm glad you said that. I'm a little tired of the everybody just overlooking.'ve turned Christian Watson into this perfect prospect. No, he's a super athlete, but like the ball skills are not nearly, I think a lot of people, right, right. Whether it's with strength or even like deep downfield, like there are some,
Starting point is 01:11:18 there are some deep downfield shots where he, he struggles to track, man. He struggles with like the hand-eye coordination stuff like just hauling deep passes not a lot of targets and not right right he's just very green so you're gonna get plenty of targets at the chiefs maybe they just take a chance on an uber athlete try to figure it out there so yeah uh christian i'm going christian watson at 29 you going david ojabo at 30 yeah i'm going david ojabo this is a team that is you know obviously showing their hand that they're looking for edge help they they were able to figure it out with Frank Clark, but for a while there, it looked like they were going to move on.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I don't think he has a super long-term future with the Chiefs, maybe two years at best. So, Ajabo's your draft stash and be your edge of the future there. I think this is a home run for the Chiefs to get him. And David Ajabo coming back for the AFC playoffs, man, that would be dynamite for Kansas City. Everybody hates the Christian Watson pick. Surprises me.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Everybody hates it. Well, I understand the hesitation from somebody, but they'd rather have John Dotson, they said. John Dotson's a guy there. Okay, that's fine. You know what's been a hot ticket item in this chat all night? I'm saying it because you're on the clock for them right now. The Bengals trading out.
Starting point is 01:12:31 The comments from the Bengals fans have just been begging for a trade out of 31. They do not want to make a pick here. Well, I'm doing it. I'm making it happen. All right. This is the team that I was targeting. The Bengals are the team that I was targeting for another team moving up. For my move-up trade, I've got the Atlanta Falcons moving up to number 31,
Starting point is 01:12:54 trading a second-rounder, which is number 43, and a third-rounder. So that means that Cincinnati's got two second-rounders, two third-rounders moving back from the first round. Atlanta's moving up for – that's right, Connor right Connor the stipulation we're checking it off Desmond Ritter baby making Desmond Ritter happen you get the fifth year option on a quarterback it's extremely important yeah I understand that they just signed Marcus Mariota but this makes sense I think for Atlanta I think it also makes sense for the Cincinnati Bengals. So Desmond Ritter to the Atlanta Falcons, trading up the number 31.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Take that chat. Take that. And I, you know, I like for the Bengals here to get, you know, you only go back to 43 and you, you still get another pick in the top 100 with that third rounder.
Starting point is 01:13:39 So for the Bengals, not a bad move. They could have taken Raymond. Somebody said, somebody said the Bengals never trade and and you're damn right they don't. Yeah. They never trade. So that part of the predictive mock may be a little bit of a stretch,
Starting point is 01:13:52 but again, it's a challenge mock. We're trying to make some things happen. I think it obviously is more realistic for Atlanta to move up for a quarterback than it is for Cincinnati to be their trade partner. They always do the Dave Gettleman unplug the phone challenge every year. Yes, yes they do like when he would he wouldn't answer the phone when they were taking saquon barkley no matter what unbelievable human all right 32 the detroit lions let's not forget we have not met one stipulation we've done everything the three quarterbacks
Starting point is 01:14:21 phone a fan multiple phone hands been a lot of fun. We've done almost all the trades. I need to do a trade back into the draft. So for the Lions fans in the comments, I feel you right now. A lot of you want N'Kobe Dean. I've been putting N'Kobe Dean to the Lions at 32 to an exhausting point. I think it's great. For the sake of this mock, we got to do a trade.
Starting point is 01:14:43 So I'm going to have the Browns come up here, Trevor. The Browns are a team to me with probably two defined needs right now that really stick out. I think they need a rusher across from Miles Garrett, Davion Clowney. They could still bring back. Hasn't happened yet. I think they need another wide receiver. I know they got Amari Cooper, but I think they could use another wide receiver. So let's get the move up here. The Browns are going to come up to 32. Detroit Lions pick. They're going to send three picks from this
Starting point is 01:15:09 draft. 44, 78, and 118. Which is a tax of the value. It's over the value. So it's a second, a third, and a fourth. That's right. All from this draft. Okay. For the Lions, you're only going back to 44. Now this is where it gets really interesting. Okay. All right. For the Lions, you're only going back to 44. Now,
Starting point is 01:15:25 this is where it gets really interesting. Who do you want to? You got Sky Moore on the board. You got George Pickens on the board. I
Starting point is 01:15:37 am going with Boye Mafe from Minnesota. Oh. Yes. Taking an edge rusher for the Browns. You have to have somebody
Starting point is 01:15:46 across from Miles Garrett that can get after the quarterback. It's a, it's non-negotiable. Boye Mafe, Browns come up for him and he wouldn't have made it to 44. Let me make that clear.
Starting point is 01:15:56 No. Actually, Trevor, I'm a little surprised he made it to 32. I think he could easily go. I am too. That's probably an oversight
Starting point is 01:16:03 on our part, honestly. Well, one man's, you know's oversight is another man's reward. That's a damn good move. Boy, I'm not mad at the Browns. I love it. He'd be a lot of fun to watch across from Miles Garrett. I mean, again, I think there was a little bit of an overpay,
Starting point is 01:16:21 but there is. It was an overpay. That pick is so valuable, man. Right. there was a little bit of an overpay but there is it wasn't overpay you know we think it's so valuable man right getting so valuable getting that fifth year option on a player at a premium position i know people are looking at it and they're like okay the numbers don't add up but for the browns this is a situation where the roster is already really good you think you're in a winning window right especially making the trade for deshaun watson you go go get the good players right let the let the next two to three seasons be the seasons that you are absolutely going all in.
Starting point is 01:16:49 And I think that that's really important. Getting a guy like Mafe makes a lot of sense. An uber-athlete kind of a player. A guy who can attack the outside shoulder. Gives you a speed element to where you really can't shift the offensive line too much because he's going to be able to burst off the snap, get into the backfield. So, look, I know a lot of people are looking at it like, damn, the Lions made out in that trade. i guess they they truly did but the browns still
Starting point is 01:17:08 got better in that scenario and i think those are the kinds of trades that do happen all the time we do see a lot of trades where it's like oh wow this team shoot we saw one today the philly trades with new on saints and my immediate thought is like damn philly got away with a good one everybody tweets fleeced right howie w saints l i mean i you know that was that was actually me so let's real quick run through some of the teams that did not pick in the first round bangles fans i bangles fans i see you in the chat let me know when we get to your pick because now you're picking at 43 what positions you want to target i want to hear you i heard so much of don't pick a linebacker because we picked linebacker to the bangles before let us know who you want to target. I want to hear you. I heard so much of don't pick a linebacker because we've picked linebacker to the Bengals before. Let us know who you want. Chicago Bears at 39.
Starting point is 01:17:48 They're the first team that kind of comes up. I'm looking at guys like Sky Moore, George Pickens, and Kyler Gordon. I think that those two, Sky Moore and George Pickens, the wide receiver, they're going to still be on the border. They're probably going to be within range. And you got Kyler Gordon, the cornerback from Washington. Those are the guys that I was taking a look at. What do you think? Man, I thought you were all over it. I didn't even make an addition to that section of this rundown for this pick specifically, because I think, you know, the only other thing I could say is, do you think a Tyler Smith or Bernard Raymond can make it here, Trevor, for their offensive line? That would be my only other that I would look at and go,
Starting point is 01:18:25 okay, I could sell that. I don't think Tyler Smith does everything I've heard. I think Tyler Smith's going to go. I know he didn't go in our round one mock, but I think he does go in the actual first round. But for the Bears, you look at the lack of weapons for Justin Fields, and you got to get one of these guys. So I would lean Sky more in this spot.
Starting point is 01:18:42 And now if they want more size, then you look at George Pickens. And you have a Colts of 42. That's the next pick here. Bernard Raymond still on the board. I know we kind of like to tackle badly. Yeah. I think that Bernard Raymond is going to be pretty high on their board. Tyler Smith,
Starting point is 01:18:57 that they want to kind of take the risk, but I think that for as much as I like what Tyler Smith can be, I don't know if they're going to pick him. At the top of the second round to start right away. I don't know if you can really ask that of him. Maybe you could do that of Bernard Raymond, but those are the guys. And then if they wanted to go wide receiver,
Starting point is 01:19:15 Sky Moore is still there. If Jahan Dotson's there, I think that those are really nice additions as well. I saw Andrew Power said, Logan Hall to the Bengals called in. That's a, I like that. I'm a big Logan Hall guy, especially in round two. So you had, yeah, Hall to the Bengals. Call it in. That's a – I like that. I'm a big Logan Hall guy, especially in round two. So you had – Ooh.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Yeah, that's a good one. I like that. Let's do the Bengals 43. There it is right there. I didn't realize we were on the clock for the Bengals. Somebody said receiver for Indy, so why don't we go – Okay, what do you want to pick for the Bears? Bears, I'll go Sky Moore.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Okay, we'll go Sky Moore for the Bears at 39. We will go Jahan Dotson for the Colts at 42. Okay. Let's go Logan Hall for the Cincinnati Bengals at 43. Listen to the chat there. San Francisco 49ers, this is the next team that's up here. I threw one name in here. I saw you put Jalen Petrie in there.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Is he going to be there at 61? I think so, just because of the depth of the safety class. Obviously, after Kyle Hamilton. Okay. Seen, Dax Hill, Brisker are probably all going to go in the top 50. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:17 Top 40. I think Petrie or Brian Cook are the two guys that make it here. One of the two. Well, then I'd be comfortable with either one. I think they'd be taking Jalen Petrie then. Oh, me too. But if Petrie's gone, then Brian Cook's next up. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Jalen Petrie there. Vegas Raiders, I think they need offensive lines. So I've got two guys up there. The two names that I put, Cole Strange and Max Mitchell. Now, you could be in the chat saying like, ah, I mean, like neither of these guys are moving the needle for me. You're picking 86th. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Well, you're picking 86th, right? You got Devontae Adams. I think I would go with Cole Strange here for the Vegas Rams. Me too. If that's okay. So we'll go Cole Strange here. I do worry about them at right tackle this year, but... Well, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:20:57 Like you said, they got Devontae Adams. Miami Dolphins at 102 now. Now we're up to the Dolphins and the Rams picking in the far parts of the third round. So I had a little bit of an idea here for the dolphins. Yes, they were at one Oh two, right?
Starting point is 01:21:13 Which, you know, on paper sounds bad and it is bad. It's not great, but can they take one Oh two and one 25 and get back into the top 100 and try to get cam jergens they need an athletic center you know this is that the offensive mike mcdaniel you need your offensive lineman that can move i think he's gonna go earlier than people think but i wanted to propose the idea sure i mean like i don't hate it we can roll with that if we want to
Starting point is 01:21:41 um dylan parham from memphis i don't think he's going to make it to 103 or whatever 102 whatever this is 60 right he's very he's really good i like him uh luke fortner is the other one who i threw out here but he's more of a i think more of like a man gap kind of that's how i evaluate him like straight in your face not really his own guy so sure we can go cam jurgens that that makes sense for for miami as at least a target for them. And then finally, Los Angeles Rams. I mean, I got a couple of names up here. If they want to go offensive line, Thayer Munford maybe from Ohio State, Cade Mays, the talented former five-star guy from Tennessee. Or if they want to go corner because they might have a corner need,
Starting point is 01:22:17 look at Mario Goodrich makes it to them. Maybe a Joshua Williams from Fayetteville State. I like that. I like both of those options for them. So, it could be any of those guys, honestly. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, listen, when you're at 104 or whatever it is, truly making a projection is not easy to do. I'll pull up the big board and look in that range and see some players around there that might fit. And that's a team that quietly is going to need some help on the offensive line. Obviously not quietly,
Starting point is 01:22:43 Whitworth retires and you're not going to replace Andrew Whitworth, but you know, are they going to need some help on the offensive line. Obviously not quietly Whitworth retires and you're not going to replace Andrew Whitworth, but you know, are they going to look at, or do they just go full offense? They don't care. And they draft like Danny gray there. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:22:54 ah, two, two didn't work last year. We're going to take speed again and go Danny gray. The Rams can go in a lot of different directions, man. And we'll see if Odell goes back there too. That's kind of a,
Starting point is 01:23:02 you know, wait and see with them in that wide receiver room. All right. So I'll recap the entire draft. I don't always do this. I don't always do this because it normally like takes two minutes for me to do it. But there was a question in the chat by our moderators and it was,
Starting point is 01:23:15 what was the best pick or what was your favorite pick in this mock draft? So I will go down and I'll read them off. And while I'm reading them off, you guys can, you can just, okay, cool. The Jacksonville Jaguars took Aiden Hutchinson, number one overall Detroit Lions when it came on Thibodeau. Houston Texans at three took Iggy Ikuonu. New York Jets at number four took Jermaine Johnson. The New Orleans Saints at number five,
Starting point is 01:23:36 they traded 16 and 19 to get up to number five to take Malik Willis. Carolina Panthers then took Kenny Pickett. New York Giants took Evan Neal at number seven. Atlanta Falcons took Trayvon Walker. Seattle Seahawks at nine took Ahmad Garner. Jets at 10 took Drake London. Washington Commanders at 11 took Kyle Hamilton. There was a big debate between Kyle Hamilton and Garrett Wilson there.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Minnesota Vikings at 12 took Derek Stingley. The Chargers traded up to number 13 to take Charles Cross, right where the Texans were. Baltimore Ravens at 14 took Jordan Davis. Philadelphia Eagles, they took Garrett Wilson at number 15. The Giants then at 16 took Tyler Linderbaum. The Texans then at 17 took Jameson Williams. So they had a haul of Jameson Williams and Nicky Aquanu, not bad at all.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Eagles at 18, Trent McDuffie. Giants again at 19, Devin Lloyd. Pittsburgh Steelers at 20, Trevor Penning. New England Patriots at 21 Kyrie Elam Green Bay Packers at 22 Chris Olave Arizona Cardinals at 23 Zion Johnson Dallas Cowboys Traylon Burks at 24 uh funny enough because Connor said he wasn't going to make their 24 at 24 Buffalo Bills took Andrew Booth at 25 Tennessee Titans at 26 to 10 Kenyon Green Bucks at 27 got their dream pick of Dev Devante Wyatt right there at the back of the first
Starting point is 01:24:47 round. Green Bay Packers at 28 George car loft. This Kansas city chiefs back to back. They went Christian Watson, which everybody effing hated. And then David Ojabo at number 30, the Cincinnati Bengals traded out of 31 Atlanta Falcons moved up for quarterback Desmond Ritter.
Starting point is 01:25:03 And then Detroit lions moved out of 32 Cleveland Browns whocons moved up for quarterback desmond ritter and then detroit lions moved out of 32 cleveland browns who took boy a mafe connor that was a blast thank you everybody who was in the chat who was interacting with us the entire night i mean we just this was so much fun for us hopefully this is a lot of fun for you it's an it's an off-the-cuff mock draft it's a it's a live mock draft we had the stipulations and so hopefully it gave you guys a lot of fun for you. It's an, it's an off the cuff mock draft. It's a, it's a live mock draft. We had the stipulations. And so hopefully it gave you guys a lot of entertainment, a lot of craze with it. I had a lot of fun. Hopefully you guys did too. Thank you so much for getting in on the show, but Connor, man, that was a blast, man. Oh dude, it was awesome. We'll definitely,
Starting point is 01:25:37 uh, try to do something like this again soon. I thought it moved pretty well. It was great to get the phone a fan. And that was absolutely my favorite part. The polls were wild and it was exciting. And man, we'll be, if you watch this, you get more of us tomorrow because we will be doing the guest mock draft series. We'll bring it back. We're live, obviously, it's a Tuesday. If you are listening to this as a recap,
Starting point is 01:26:00 you have another pod to listen to today or Wednesday before Thursday's show to keep up with the guest mock draft. So the NFL Stock Exchange, busy, busy week. Appreciate you guys listening live, getting in on the show, being in on the chat. We hope to do a lot more of these as we get closer to the draft. This is a lot of fun, and we're just going to keep doing it. As long as you guys keep enjoying them, we're going to keep doing them.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I'm Trevor Sykema. That is Connor Rogers. Thanks so much for listening to the NFL Stock Exchange. We'll see you guys next time.

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