NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 41. Final Predictive 2022 Mock Draft

Episode Date: April 25, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers team up to bring you their final mock draft of the 2022 cycle. Rather than go back and forth with picks, the two join forces to talk through every single selection to predict what they believe will happen with every team at every pick in the first round. They also get into the seconds and third rounds for teams that don't have first round selections.

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I got it this year. It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. It is draft week, finally. And in this episode, Connor and I are going to team up to give you our best guess at what we think is going to happen

on Thursday night. It is a predictive mock draft where the two of us are going to sit down in the GM seat for every single team, talk about who's on the board, what positions they could go with, whether trading up or back is going to be an option. We're going to work through all of that to ultimately give you guys the most accurate first round mock draft

that we possibly can. We're also going to dive into the teams that don't have first round picks because we realize we haven't given you guys as much love as we have needed to. So all the teams that have second round picks, third round picks that don't pick until those points in the draft, we got you. We're going to give you what we believe is the targets, the positions, things that they are going to go after, even if it is a little bit later and harder to predict.

We're going to give that our best guesses as we are for every single team in the first round. Give you as much context, knowledge, sources, everything is possible. I am Trevor Sycamore. With me as always is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama.

That is Connor Rogers on Draft Week, baby. Connor, we made it. It's been a long time, my friend. You know, we just started this podcast in January, but obviously you and I and so many listeners out there have been following this 2022 NFL draft process for a long time basically a year in the making probably even more because of these prospects that have been playing for a long time now but buddy it is finally here the final mock drafts the final big boards

the final everything before Thursday night I'm excited for it how you feeling on draft week dude it's awesome there's no better week throughout the entire year all the excitement all the build-up you always get that last string of rumors the last couple days oh yeah yeah it's gonna be mayhem it's gonna be fun especially this year where i think it's safe to say the top five picks are as unpredictable as ever starting with number one overall so this will be a fun final uh nfl stock exchange consensus mock because you and i are going to work together on these picks rather than ping pong back and forth. We're going to try to come to a consensus of what

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Let's start this mock draft, buddy. Let's do it. Jacksonville Jaguars at number one overall. Oh, man. This is the big question, right? And I'll pose it to you, man. Okay. Independent of your rankings,

and we're going to talk a lot about rankings and big boards on tomorrow's episode of the podcast, but it's predictive here. What do we think Trent Baalke and the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to do at number one overall? What do you think? I can't believe I'm here, but I'm starting to lean Trayvon Walker. And you know from talking to me, Trevor, I was not even there last week. I kept saying it's got to be Aiden Hutchinson.

It's got to be Aiden Hutchinson. I am the master of taking away nothing from press conferences. Even that press conference i looked at it and go man why are you underselling aiden hutchinson you have no reason to even if you're not gonna take him yep i just i think they're crazy enough or he is crazy enough to do it if he has the power to do so now i'm very 60 on this, so it can change in the next couple of days. And the good thing is, I would mock this Trayvon Walker, Aiden Hutchinson, or Aiden Hutchinson, Trayvon Walker, either way, where I won't destroy your entire mock. But man, I'm curious to hear

what you have to say. I am leaning Trayvon Walker by a hair here right now. I am also leaning Trayvon Walker, and I'd even go like 65, 35, 70, 30, man. I think they're going to do it. I think they're going to pick Walker. And honestly, if they don't pick Walker, I feel like it'd be like an offensive tackle. I follow some plugged-in people who cover the Jags, and it just seems like it, you know, Trent Balky loves Trayvon Walker.

Doug Peterson loves an offensive tackle option. I think they, again, I think they like Aiden Hutchinson, but I don't think they love Aiden Hutchinson. And I think you saw that at the pre-draft press conference. So I'm gonna go Trayvon Walker here. And that sounds like we're in agreement with him going number one overall, right?

It does. And it makes number two really easy, right? Super easy. We know the lions have loved hush since November. Yes. They didn't have to do, they did everything they had to do throughout the process,

but they were pretty comfortable with him for a long time. So if this happens, Hutchinson will be the pick at number two and the lions draft room will be jumping for joy. Yep. I agree. I think that it's a lock that Hutchinson is going number two. It would be, who else are we even considering here?

I guess you could theoretically consider Kayvon Thibodeau, but I've heard the Lions wouldn't consider him over Aiden Hutchinson. No, I don't even think it's close for them. The only other wild card is maybe Sauce Garner. But again, if Aiden's on the board, are they really about to pick sauce Garner over Aiden Hutchinson? I don't think that's going to be the case. So let's go Aiden at number two,

which puts us at an interesting spot at number three. What do you think happens at number three overall? Okay. So this is one of the harder ones, right? And we've been eye to eye on icky here for a long time. And I will comfortably say I, if I had to pick, I think it's Icky. I think this is one of the most unpredictable picks of the entire draft. I wouldn't be shocked to see them go Evan Neal instead of Icky. I wouldn't be shocked to see

them surprise everyone and take like Derek Stingley or something like that. There's nothing they can do where I'd be like, oh, my God, I can't believe they just did that you you see it in the mock draft simulator on pff needs every position um there's a lot of players at premium positions that they value a lot obviously casario coming from new england would value these press man corners with ball skills he'd value the offensive line he'd value the pass rush he'd value a chess piece like kyle hamilton but to not overthink it too much, Trevor, I think when all is said and done, you take the best player there is on this board, and that is Icky, in my eyes, for them in this spot.

So, I think it's down to two players, personally. Now, I guess there could be, obviously, a lot more that's in the mix, but this is just what I'm hearing. I would guess that it's either Icky Iquanu or Sauce Garner, man. I'm hearing a lot of love for Sauce Garner

to potentially go number three overall to Houston. And so my vote would be Sauce. Is your vote Icky? Man, right now I am more comfortable with Icky, but... It should be. That's the thing. I but it should be that's the thing like yeah i think it should be icky aquanoo but i just look like i've heard that it's it's not i feel like i've heard that they're like in soft garner a lot that it wouldn't shock me but it just i look at them trying to evaluate davis mills this year no matter whatever you think of that like if you think that's insane if you think that's great whatever you think of that whatever the hell they have on paper right now in offense

does nothing in your ability to do that they cannot run the ball they can't play at the line of scrimmage they can't love you smith wants to run the ball man like when he got hired he talked about he like he said the words i'm an old school coach you know you got to score points to win the game but you get that starts with running the ball and having an identity there and icky i think is the best person to be able to do that by far lovey is you know something i thought was interesting was casario at his press conference his pre-draft press conference he said well i'd be he i think he said a fool to not consult my coaches when it came to this pick so with lovey smith being his his head coach a defensive selection could certainly be in the

cards and picking a shutdown corner could make a lot of sense but let's go icky let's go okay i i i think it really is it's a toss-up it's close it's really close learn a lot over the next 48 hours with where the texans might be leaning but we'll stick it kiwano here because they do they do have a conviction towards running the ball a lot better next season. And Icky certainly allows you to do that. So look, your front and center. Now jets at number four.

What do you think happens here? I think it's pretty easy. I think it's cave on Thibodeau. I've heard that they are really comfortable with the person. He got to go visit them at their facility in Florham park. I think that they see a ceiling on a player for a team that just doesn't have a lot of big-time ceiling players. They have a lot of low-floor player,

high-floor, low-ceiling kind of players they brought in. So when you look at it with Thibodeau, you're looking for a game-changer. I think they'd be pretty happy with this scenario falling the way it was, because Icky's off the board. That would be the only other guy that makes this a debate in this situation. So I'm pretty comfortable that Kayvon the board. That would be the only other guy that makes this a debate in this situation. So I'm pretty comfortable that Kayvon Thibodeau would be the pick here.

Okay. All right. I'm good with that as well because I think that Thibodeau is certainly a top five player in this class. I think he deserves to go in the top five. And you said it right there. If the Jets are cool with his character, as stupid as it says. We have to say it every time yeah it's just dumb but like as long as that all checks out you're gonna love the player and him on one side carl

austin on the other that's uh that's a fun edge rush duo for there for the jets yeah especially if icky is on the board if icky is on the board i'm gonna put the pressure on you do you still think they take cave on i have a weird feeling they would take Icky and try to get Jermaine at 10. Ooh. Yeah. Okay. I have a weird feeling about that. Okay.

But that might be like, that's a debate that could be going on this week. I think Joe Douglas would want, Joe Douglas, let's not do the I think thing. Joe Douglas would want Icky. The defensive coaching staff, which includes the head coach, Robert Sala, would want Thibodeau. Okay. All right. It'd be a fly on the wall, man.

All right. Yeah, no. Many situations in this draft, I would love to be a fly. You know how teams every year, they'll release that behind-the-scenes draft video? Those will be must-watch this year more than any other year any other year because you're gonna get those little nuggets where they're gonna be sitting there in the war room saying like okay uh we're on the clock here it's between these three guys which

one do you want and you're gonna and people are gonna be like wait it's between those three guys and like those are the i i'm always so fascinated not just with with the the picks that happen i'm always fascinated by the picks that don't happen that almost happened that okay what if this team actually went this way instead and this guy was on their board and they almost did it i think this year is going to be a thing i always think of one scene in those and it was the bills behind the scenes footage years ago when the panthers traded ahead of them in the second round and everybody in the bills war room was so defeated because they thought the bills were getting jumped for someone they really liked and the bills took greg little i mean the panthers

took greg little and the' war room exploded in celebration. And I was laughing so hard. And then sure enough, we saw Greg Little's career went in Carolina. That's what I always think of with those. I don't know why. Those moments, man. Those moments are so crazy to think about

what almost happened with these teams. What was on the board for them. So I hope we get a lot of really good footage there from those teams. Number five, overall, we've got the New York giants here. It feels easy. Ah,

I say that. I know there's a lot of Charles cross steam right now. I still think it's Evan Neal. You think it's Evan Neal? I do. I, I just think the comfort of him at right tackle across the manager. Thomas is kind of the man.

This makes too much sense to not do it in my eyes. I think it makes, it makes a lot of sense because Neil's background and versatility, like he's already played right tackle. He's already showed that. So, you know, I think that if you are somebody who watches a lot of sec football and

you're telling yourself that one team in the nfl is going to have andrew thomas and evan neal like you've been watching for the last two three years you're basically like okay those are two of the best offensive tackles from the best conference in america that's pretty great so i do think there is a lot of steam for charles cross but i also could see the charles cross love coming from a place of believing that ev Evan Neal might have already been off the board. I think that's exactly it, Trevor. It's almost like you're trying to sell yourself on the next thing because you're preparing for the worst. So let's go Evan Neal.

Let's go Evan Neal, number five. That puts the Carolina Panthers up at number six. It is a what we think will happen mock draft. Oh, man. This is brutal, right? I am sure like obviously they would love to get out of this pick so they can eventually sell a quarterback selection elsewhere rather than six i don't know who the hell is coming into this pick and what the only thing i can think of is somebody really likes Charles Cross that much. Or somebody really feels the need to get past Atlanta for a Garrett Wilson kind of player. Or Jamison Williams.

But that would really shock me because he's hurt. Yeah, I mean, there's no guarantee that Atlanta's even picking a wide receiver. No. I'm telling you, that's why I'm saying, like, who the hell's coming into this pick and why? The Saints? I mean, the Saints, but that's why I'm saying, like, who the hell's coming into this pick and why? The Saints? I mean, the Saints, but that's an interdivision trade. Oh, yeah, ruled out. Yeah.

That would be silly for... Like, is Howie just going to go full crazy and the Eagles come up? I mean, it almost helps both teams, right? Yeah. Because Pickett should be there at 15. And Howie's not going to have to trade 15 and 18 to go up to six in a bad top 10. I don't think Philadelphia wants to trade up, though. I don't think so either. I'm just trying to find a right. No, I'm with you. We're working through it right now. We're in the trenches. We're in the thick of it right now.

Like I know everybody keeps saying there's no way Carolina takes Kenny Pickett at six, but I'm like, okay. So you're telling me they're going to risk just going into next year with Sam Darnold. They quite literally cannot. You're just killing your own career. I don't understand. Carolina's in a horrible spot. There's no other way to say it. No, no, no. They're in an absolutely terrible spot. Dude, I think we should just pick Kenny Pickett. I'm fine with that because I think that's what it comes down to in a way that they have to just deal with the outside noise and hope Kenny comes in and riles people up and kicks ass. Like, I know people don't like this, and I get it.

He's not even a top 30 player for me i understand but no when you just look at the process so far even if they take malik malik isn't going to play this year probably and then they're fired that was that was my that's my biggest worry with carolina with the trade back thing and that way i wrote an article saying this is a trade that i would absolutely hate and it's a trade back for carolina because what if carolina even goes back to nine okay who's to say the steelers aren't moving up to to eight with atlanta right or something like that and and it just it's it's it's so difficult to find a method in which Carolina comes out of this draft and you're happy about where they are. It's so difficult.

It's hard. And what is the plan really? Like take Charles Cross, which I'd love, good pick, and then try to get Baker Mayfield into a Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold competition that's $40 million. I've never heard of something like that in my life. I think we just got know can he pick it up robbie anderson on instagram saying hell no right like i know people laugh at it but like are you kidding did he say hell no twice didn't he say

like he commented on multiple times like you you only respond to something twice if you're really passionate about it. That's the rule. You never respond more than once. That'd be tough. All right, I guess we're picking Kenny Pickett at six. I hope Carolina proves us wrong and manipulates this draft and everyone's like, wow, they did it. But it's just so hard.

The percentage of Carolina coming out of this draft with me having more faith in their franchise is so low. It's not zero. You never know what's going to happen in the draft, but it is so low. Here's one on the spot for you. After six,

is their next pick over under 78? Who, Carolinas? Yeah. Well, they don't have to pick until like 114, don't they? 137. Yeah. Which is again, which is terrible.

And that would make you think, hey, we've got to trade back to get at least something back in day two, which is cool and great. Where are you trading back? How much are you risking here? I just, who is moving up? That the thing who's moving up i shoot maybe somebody like falls in love with derrick stingley if sauce is gone or my only my only real plan here for carolina is if the Seahawks want to move from nine to six. Okay. And give you number 41 because they have number 40 and 41. So you get 41 if you're Carolina and you're cool with that.

And Seattle is moving to jump the Giants to get Sauce Garner. Because I think Sauce is going seven at this point. I would agree. If Sauce doesn't go three at Houston, I think he's going either five or seven to the New York Giants. Man. So that's the only way I think this makes, that it would make sense for a trade back.

Because like, I keep going back to this. I keep trying to find answers. And without, not picking to 137, you can't even do the whole, hey, we'll take Sam Howell in round two. No, no. There's none of that. They're screwed.

All right. Can he pick it at six? Can he pick it at six? Stock exchange stamp. And I think, God, don't do that to us. Do not put the stamp. Don't take the stamp off. Do it again.

Use the time stone. Take the stamp off. We're not notar the stamp. Don't don't take the stamp off. Do it again. Use the time stone. Take the stamp off. We're not, we're not notarizing that. Number seven, number seven, number seven, the New York giants.

I think it's soft corner. Yeah, me too. It makes so much sense. I think Joe Shane, absolutely without a doubt wants to move back from seven. I think he wants to do what the Philadelphiaagles did and take his extra first round capital this year especially with them picking so close together you don't need to pick this close together

you really don't no take seven trade with somebody who's going to give you a first next year and then just pick at some point a little bit later in the first round i would say connor that this is a great spot for the new Orleans Saints to come up and get Charles Cross. I agree. But the Saints just traded two first-round picks for this year. I think the Giants would have rather them have not do that. I think the Giants would have rather said, okay, we'll move back from 7 to 18 where they originally were,

and you give us your first next year, and you give us, so you're going to have to throw something else into it. But don't forget, and this is insane, but this is very real. The giants have such little cap space that they would have to make like a significant move to be able to take on a third first rounder this year. That's how little cap space they have.

That if they went out of seven and got 16 and 19 they'd have to do something on their roster to fit that first rounders cap in you know what i think would be extremely sneaky is the los angeles chargers moving from 17 up to seven to go pick whoever the hell they want between derrick stingley ahmad gardner Charles Cross, or any wide receiver they want. That'd be nuts. You're already all in. You went and you traded for Khalil Mack. You signed JC Jackson.

You brought back Mike Williams. You need to fill one spot on your offensive line, and it's a pivotal one at right tackle. You can maybe turn your wide receiver room into just an unbelievably elite room, or you can max out your secondary with another fantastic secondary pick. Yeah, and that trade would be highlighted by 2023 capital

because they don't pick until 79 after 17. Right. Which the Giants like. The Giants like that. So it makes a lot of sense. Do we want to do that? Oh, man. Are we going to do trades?

Should we do trades? It's realistic. It's what we think is going to happen. Or do you want to sit? I say we put them in there hypothetically, but we'll sit on the board. I really like that idea a lot. So the Giants take sauce, right? Yep, yep, yep, yep. I mean, that idea a lot. So the Giants take Sauce, right? Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

I mean, that's a great fit. He's such a good person to have when you're trying to relaunch a franchise. You walk out of the draft with Evan Neal and Sauce Gardner and you're still picking again in the top 40. These are the kind of drafts the Giants have missed for a really long time. Land of Falcons date?

Yeah, so fascinating team, because they're just really in this full rebuild kind of phase in my eyes and you can argue Kyle Hamilton here you can argue multiple wide receivers here you can definitely argue Jamison Williams here because they are the one team that can kind of do the drafting stash and not be hurt by it in terms of the seat getting hot. I still think Garrett Wilson is going to go before Jamison Williams. I know Jamison has had this massive amount of steam lately. Is there somebody you like that's not a receiver here, Trevor, for them?

The way our board broke. Malik Willis oh man i haven't i haven't heard a peep about that but i haven't i haven't really either but i've heard quarterback a little bit as of late and here's the thing man like i've talked about it on this podcast they had the chance to pick both justin fields or mac jones last year now they got a really damn good player in kyle pitts so i mean i know that they're happy with that they also had matt ryan in a much different franchise scenario last year that they could lean on and say we don't need one of these quarterbacks we have matt ryan now they don't have matt ryan now they don't have anybody they have marcus mariotta but he's not gonna be the franchise guy then picking them

picking malik willis allows them to actually accept their fate, which is that they are in a massive rebuild at this point, and allows them to play Marcus Mariota next year, allows you to play Malik Willis the year after that. I mean, I like the idea a lot. I don't think it's insane. I, for some reason, have never played this one out in my head, to be honest with you,

because they just keep kicking this quarterback can. I think there's only so much there's only so long that you could do it right. And I feel like Matt Ryan leaving was this massive like, oh, boy, like now now we might actually be in trouble here. And they missed the Sean Watson. And that was so bold that it was like it felt like kind of now what do we do right right which is scary i i would say malik willis man okay let's do it malik willis i think there is a real real chance that this happens and it makes it does make sense for atlanta which i don't think is really going anywhere with it they could go with so many different positions but i think they feel like the quarterback pressure

is on here with them yeah and they're probably a team that they're in such a bad spot if somebody wanted to come up for their wide receiver of choice with the jets and commanders lurking they can get out of this pick probably but in this sake we're not going to do the trade so we'll go with malik willis seahawks at nine we got charles cross here we got derrick stingley here we got kyle hamilton here jameson williams george karloff this i mean like everybody's still here what do you think stingley i kind of think stingley um i yeah i think they're a team that needs a corner i don't think they value i know they need a tackle and everybody's like cross on corner. I don't think they value cross. I know they need a tackle, and everybody's like cross on the board. I don't think they value cross at nine.

Okay. So, yeah. All right. I know people are going to be like, what the hell? They haven't brought back Dwayne Brown. How do you not take Charles Cross? I don't see them taking cross at nine. We'll see.

I go with Stingley here. Okay. Jets at 10. So, you had them taking Kayvon Thibodeau at nine. We'll see. I think I go with Stingley here. Okay. Jets at 10. So you had them taking Cave Antibido at four. Who are they taking to 10? Wow. This is pretty tricky, right?

I've done the Drake London thing so many freaking times. But do you think it happens? Because if you think it happens, we'll do it again. I do because that's you. I usually don't have Garrett Wilson here. I don't think it's Jamison Williams, just to rule that out.

I know that's been really hot lately for the Jets at 10. Okay. All right. I think it's between Drake London and Garrett Wilson. Why don't you think it's Jamison? Because if they start out 1-6 and he's not even on the field, they're going to get fired, and they barely got to see their first-round pick play.

I'm not saying that's right or wrong. I'm just saying that's politics of the NFL. You know, look at what Jamison Williams does best, right? Jamison Williams is a vertical threat. Right. The number one thing that you need to build timing and chemistry with vertical threats. You do that throughout an entire summer and usually the first month of a season. Preaching.

He's preaching. Jameson Williams comes back, what, Halloween at best? Is he just firing on all cylinders with Zach Wilson? Scary hours. As a spammerist calls me. Not now. It's the most important week of the year. Are you kidding?

All right. So, look, you have been pounding the table saying that it's Drake London. Yeah, and I will stay with that. But I just wanted to open the door that we usually don't have this scenario that Garrett Wilson's there. I don't know if Garrett Wilson's going that high, man. I'm fascinated.

I think Garrett Wilson's going to be on the board at 10. Okay. I think he is. I still will stick with Drake London because of the fit with Zach Wilson, and they don't have a player like Drake London. All right. So we've got the Washington commanders now up at 11. Uh,

wide receiver is still certainly in play for all of them. Jameson Williams is there. Um, you mentioned Garrett Wilson is there. Kyle Hamilton's there. I I'm kind of leaning Hamilton on me too. I think that's the guy that they would want. I think so too. When you think of

Ron Rivera, that's the player you would think he's going to fall in love with him. I think Kyle Hamilton in that spot and then Washington will look later in the draft to still get a wide receiver across from Terry McLaurin because they pick at 47.

Alright, so that's their next pick there. Minnesota Vikings at 12. Good Lord. One of the tougher ones, right? Probably Jermaine Johnson, but I wouldn't rule out Trent McDuffie. Tricky, right? Is there somebody you like in this spot

that we haven't really thought of in this scenario? No, and I mean, I like Jermaine Johnson here, but they've got Zedarius and they still have Danil Hunter, right? Mm-hmm. And they have no corners outside of Pat Peet. I think Trent. And Zimmer's gone. Like, Zimmer would never take Trent McDuffie.

They already spent the money in pass rush. Yep. And they didn't trade the no-hunter. I think corner's the way they want to go. I'm always torn. Do I think that Quessie is going to draft a non-uber athlete smaller corner? Yeah, like with one percentile arm length. Yeah.

Pretty rare, but I do think he's going to be this weird exception. No, don't get me wrong. I love Trent McDuffie. I think he's going to be a great football player. But when you look at it, does the NFL love Trent McDuffie? That's what we always say on this show. Right. And Quincy obviously talked about how much he has, has grown his background in like the true,

like scouting side of things. And, you know, everybody loves a harp on his analytics background, but how much that he's like, look, yes, we use analytics and we're going to be analytics driven,

but there's also going to be a lot of scouting side, a lot of quote unquote football guys, you know, way to look at these things. Let's go to McDuffie. I think let's go McDuffie. I think I do think the league is higher on him than the media okay all right uh houston texas at 13 i think this is also a big time trade back spot we're not doing trades here but i think this is a big time trade back spot if i learned anything from nick casario's press conference pre-draft press conference it's that

it's i don't think he likes this draft man i don't think he likes you like anything though i mean it right he comes from this philosophy that's so that's so funny he's like yeah the draft's a crap shoot yeah like like nobody like yeah yo nobody really knows what they're doing can i just say that's total BS? Like, yes. From him or just from everybody? Everybody that drives me. I think it's become my biggest pet peeve.

Yes, there's volatility to the draft. It's not a crapshoot. If you had somebody draft that has never followed football in their life, their hit rate would be significantly lower than somebody that is good at this. Like that's what crapshoot to me. It just, it, you're talking down to your own profession, Nick Casario. He talked about how having more darts to throw at the dartboard is just always better. He talked about that. Darts isn't a crapshoot. I play darts all the time. There's good people and there's really crappy people. we're just calling them out straight on the podcast uh

13 they went with dickie aquani with three two players in this spot that i think are in play let's hear it carloftis and garrett wilson and the garrett wilson thing I heard pretty recently. You think they'd really like Garrett Wilson? When we talked to John McClain, I was like, no shot this team takes a wide receiver in the first round, especially where Nick Casario comes from. Yeah.

I don't think they would do it at three. Now that they're picking at 13, the way this draft that he clearly hates is falling apart. I think they would consider that because it's just there's no lock that he's here because he's such a nice high floor skill talent but car loftus i think would be in play and then after that i don't really feel very confident about the rest of the group on the board i'm pretty confident with with car loftus here at 13 they need a lot of help on defense. Yeah, I'm pretty confident.

All right, let's go Carl Loftus. Okay, Ravens at 14. Pretty easy, right? Which Georgia player do you want? Oh, you want Jermaine. I think that's what they would look for as much as I put Jordan Davis here every single time. Yeah.

Okay. You know, we obviously had on Jeff Zarebik, who went with Jermaine and made some really nice points. No, he said that if Jermaine makes it to him, that they'd probably, good chance they'd absolutely love him. I don't know if in that scenario that Jordan Davis or Trumpet, though, because we had Jordan Davis go off the board at eight.

That's true. You know? That is true. Jordan Davis just looks like he was meant to be a baltimore raven yeah which is kind of why i want to i want to pick him for ball let's do it let's do it all right let's go jordan davis here baltimore again we've talked about this multiple times i find it so hard to believe that the nfl is going to pick 13 people over jordan davis but every time we go through this logical exercise i I struggled to find like where exactly that I'm placing him above this. But I think at 14,

I think it obviously makes a lot of sense for them. Yeah. There's our football argument for Jordan Davis at 14. Not me saying he looks like he should wear purple and black. The Ravens more than any other team. It's like you, if you mock draft any defender to them, any.

Oh, it's beautiful. You go to them, any. Oh, it's beautiful. You go to your, you say to yourself, oh man. Yeah. That guy looks like that guy. That guy would look good in purple and black. You know what I'm saying? So like, I don't know why. I don't know why it is just such a thing for the Baltimore Ravens.

You just, any first round defender at all that makes sense whatsoever, you just go, damn. Yeah. It's brutal. That's a Baltimore Raven. 15, I think we both see eye to eye on this one, right? Are you thinking Jamison Williams? It has to be Jamison Williams. Yeah, it has to be.

I mean, I actually think Howie will explore coming up for him. I don't know if they'll be able to do it but i don't see i don't know how much they would want to give up because okay that's what i mean eagles future picks i'm looking at what they have they're sitting real nice no i know they're sitting i know they're sitting pretty but they have two first round picks this year. Obviously they've got two thirds, a second, a fourth, three fifths. So next year they have two ones. I guess if they're moving up, they're probably going to be like, okay, we're either going to give you two of our third round picks,

depending on how far they're going up. They're probably looking to move their third round picks and their fifth round picks. They're probably not looking to move much of next year. It's not like they're going to move one of their ones next year. I don't think that's going to happen. I think Howie likes having multiple pick control on day one of the NFL draft, and he's not going to lose that if he doesn't have to.

I think they have 11 picks this year. They're not coming in with 11 rookie picks. No, you've got to trade some of those. But he'll trade some of them to next year. Where they also are going to have a ton of picks again. So yeah, that's why I look at them. I mean, they got Jamison anyway in this scenario, so we're just trying to get the players right.

16 Saints, I mean, the way this fell, Charles Cross, easy. They would trade up for an offensive tackle. Yes, yes. I don't know if they would take this risk, but it worked out for them anyway the chargers become very interesting here because mcduffie stingley sauce are gone cross just went i think it's a lave or garrett wilson it's one of those two i think i don't think garrett Garrett Wilson will be here, so I would think Olave,

but that's not how we're doing this mock draft. Right. I don't know, man. You never know. I said that about C.D. Lamb, and he fell to 17. Right, like, I don't think Garrett Wilson's going super high. Like, not that I think he's a bad football player,

I don't at all whatsoever, but I just don't think he's going that high. I'll say this, Trevor, and I haven't said this on the show. Teams are really blown away by him when they sit down and talk to him compared to a lot of the other receivers in this class. Yeah.

Like, and I know it's something that we don't really get to experience a lot, but obviously there's so many schemes where you have to be so smart as a wide receiver. Cause there's so much going on in the offense and he's the guy i always get the feedback oh he's he's the guy like we can ask anything of him he's ready he absorbs it right now he's still polished coming out of there and he's ready to take on more where i don't i don't get that with the other guys which is interesting okay all right we'll go garrett wilson here then let's go gary wilson because i'm saying to myself oh i like olave as the potential deep threat

for this offense but i mean gary wilson can do it too he's got the speed yeah he allows you to do it now i think that olave is more natural at it i think he's done it longer i think he's clearly been that consistent deep threat whether he was a sophomore sophomore, a junior, a senior at Ohio state. So he has a lot of reps doing that, but I think Garrett Wilson showed that he's got the speed to be able to do it too. And Brandon Staley will certainly love an extremely smart and instinctual football player. So we'll go Garrett Wilson at 17 for the chargers,

but I think attacking that other wide receiver position, just giving Justin Herbert another incredible wide receiver to throw to a, that can't hurt, which puts the Eagles back up on the clock at 18. Then with Jamison Williams at 15. Devontae Wyatt? I don't think Wyatt's going in the top 20. But I don't know what the hell else they'll do because the corners are... You know what?

I do have a sneaky one here. I think Dax Hill is in play here. Do you think that yes or would you like that no no i think that because we will talk about this on tomorrow's episode when we go through our big boards oh i would love it but i love dax hill yeah i think i think he's in play here with the three corners and hamilton gone okay because logic tells you that like devin lloyd seems like a no-brainer here but they'll just they never do they will not they will not do it no davante wyatt i just get a sense that he's been mocked a little higher than where he's

going okay the age the breakout we'll see yeah the age is an interesting part of it for sure for sure it's tough to get a read on how high Andrew Booth and Kyrie Elam can go. I'm trying to remember far back Eagles draft pick history. Like, do they prioritize corners? I think they usually take them in the second round. DB fourth round. DB fourth round. They did trade a lot for slay db fourth round see uh they had sydney jones rasul douglas go second round third round in 2017 but other than

that they haven't picked one before the fourth round that's kind of crazy it is but and they traded a third and fifth for slay that's's not too bad. They had to pay him. That's why it was cheap. It's interesting. I don't know if they're going to pick a defensive back then. Who the hell are they going to... I mean, who the hell are they going to take, though, on the defensive line in this spot?

I guess Wyatt, but I just... Once again, I don't think he's going as high as he's been mocked. He can still go in the first round. Top 20 is... It's pretty rich, but we'll see. I would like the Dax Hill fit. I just don't know if that's going to happen. You know? Yeah.

Oh, he could do anything for them. Who? I mean, yeah, he'd be fantastic for them, man. He's your Swiss Army knife of coverage. Okay, we had the discussion here. I talked you intoiss army knife of cover okay we we had the discussion here i talked you into it no i mean like we had we had the discussion so you know we're we're throwing it all out for people to kind of analyze that i think that we would love to give them a corner here i would love mcduffie here i mean your offensive line is fine i don't think they're

taking they're taking an offensive lineman that high. Brandon Graham, Derek Barnett, Josh Sweat. Hassan Reddick. Hassan Reddick. They just signed him to a lot of money. God, they got Kizer White and TJ Edwards at linebacker. Can you please for the love of God

take Devin Lloyd? Pick a linebacker. Take the Kobe Dean. I don't care. Just take one geez man grow up howie grow up uh all right uh we should dax hill fine i don't know i hate it here uh saints at the saints 19. I think this is an Olave spot, right? I think this is such an easy pick. Okay.

Yeah, after that disaster previously, it's good to have something that makes a lot of sense. We went pretty easy there. Okay, so offensive tackle on the board for the Pittsburgh Steelers at 20. This is probably Penning, right? This is probably Penning. Yeah, I would think that this would go. Penning. Yeah. I would think that this would go. Penning's floor.

Hell of a floor to have for a FCS tackle that was not very good. But good for him, man. Good if you can get it. Listen, we'll talk about that tomorrow when we do the big board and we go over the rankings. But Patriots at 21. Devin Lloyd. I agree with what Evan Lazar said on the

guest mock. I don't think there's anybody else who's glaringly still there. No. If they are that jacked up about corner Kyrie Illams in play, it gets thin. I agree with Evan also that they just, I don't think they're going to

take Zion Johnson this early. What is their corner? Isn't their corner group butt? Oh, dude, they lost JC Jackson. It's awful. Malcolm Butler, Jalen Mills, John Jones, who they like, Jonathan Jones. It's pretty bad. You know, it's not good.

Hey, they have Shawn Wade, though. They also, obviously, they've got Javerell Peppers. We've been extra, you know, annoying today. Bill makes it work. Belichick just makes it work. I have to sit here and look at this depth chart and be like, how is this team going to win football games? And Bill Belichick just does.

I mean, he's the gopher reason. He knows. He's forgotten more about football than I could ever possibly know. So linebacker, I think, is something that they need. When did they trade for Mack Wilson? Or did Mack get cut? I think they traded for him. They always have weird players on their roster that you forget exist.

He was traded in exchange for Chase Winovich. That's a recent trade, yes. Yeah, that happened on March 16th. That's why I totally forgot that. I love player-for-player trades that are not headliners. Just straight up. You just forgot that it happened. We really don't want this guy anymore.

Is there someone else he'll give us? It's the best part about the NFL. All right, we'll go. We'll go Devin Lloyd here. I think that makes the most sense, especially for them trading a player to acquire a linebacker, like unless they really like Mack Wilson, like unless they traded for him and were like, wow,

we got to steal from this guy. To me, that says that they're in search for this kind of a linebacker that they hope is going to be in the middle of their defense. Yeah. They care so much about the linebacker position, too. Right, right. We've said this before. Normally, they go a lot heavier with their linebackers,

but Devin Lloyd's not nearly as physical as they normally like to have their linebackers be, but it's kind of a different age at this point. Yeah, he's still 6'3", 240, which the way the league's going, all these guys are playing like 230. He doesn't play as aggressive as some of these other linebackers do. A lot of guys in his class, though. It's just a lot of sideline-to-sideline kind of guys. Our Green Bay is at 22.

Or if you're Leo Chenault, you're just out here looking to eat. Downhill smashing whatever's in front of you. Okay, so Green Bay at 22. So to me, this is where Devontante white starts to become into play obviously they need a wide receiver every time we do this it never breaks right for them unless they like trailing burks pete bakowski on the guest mock had trailing burks going there justice muscata at 28 uh did not like that fit at all so packers uh cheesehead nation is torn on wide receiver right now what if they want oh what if they went jermaine johnson jermaine oh my god he's still there yeah

yeah yes yep that would be it if he fell if he fell once upon a time this was uh where jermaine johnson's draft place started. Right. We have lost that. But I don't feel bad about this because I don't really think New England or... I don't think the Steelers or Saints necessarily take him. Saints might. Might. I do think he goes earlier than this in the draft, obviously.

This just played out differently than what we're accustomed to. I would go go germaine here you think yes i'm looking at the depth chart now because i know they're looking for pass rush help even after what they got but they yeah they they definitely need some extra pass rush help as well and i think germaine's strong enough to where you can get versatile with absolutely a little bit inside he's got some of the best hands in the draft okay let's go germaine johnson here i think this would be a this would be a good pick for him. Is this our old Zion Johnson and move on? Cardinals fans definitely don't like this show

anymore. Alex Clancy said, you gotta eat your vegetables, baby. Yep, Alex did. That actually made me feel better that we always do this. I mean... I think that's the way you have to go. If they go off the rails with this pick and Zion's on the board, I can't help Arizona.

What's he going to take? You never know. What do they want? I mean, we said this last year. Steve Kine's draft history is unbelievable, by the way. I'm not going to go on a rant. I just want you guys to Google it. Yeah, that's it.

Just Google it. Just Google it. Drafthistory.com. Just Google it. Arizona Cardinals. Yep. Cowboys, Traylon Burks would go here. Just have some fun.

Yeah. Jerry can't help himself. Yeah, he would. Jerry can't help himself. Traylon Burks. I was like, oh, but they need offensive line. No, no, no. No, no, no.

You're right. Traylon Burks would go there. Do we dare? I think we do. I think we're going to do it. Do we dare? Yeah, I think we're going to it do we dare yeah i think we're gonna do it um oh bill's fans are gonna hate us dude yeah i know unless you want to go

with davante wyatt here i think ed oliver's coming up in free agency i know they signed some guys they don't have yeah they don't have a lot of interior defensive linemen i think that are there there for the next two years. Really just this one year. They have Daquan Jones. No, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, they signed tim settle they've got aj at panasa they have greg rousseau signed von miller have boogie basham signed shack lawson again i don't this is not a defensive line pick

i don't think man none of that moved the needle for me right i i know it doesn't move the needle but that's so much capital invested into that yeah a lot of it's short term but i get it but you're already like okay so davante wyatt i think he's good enough to where you could certainly play him anywhere from a nose to a three-tech. But he does his best work as a three-tech, right? Yep, absolutely. You can't play Ed Oliver anywhere else. He's too small.

So I don't think we could pick Devontae Wyatt. It almost makes you think they would actually go Travis Jones instead of Devontae Wyatt. If they were going think they would actually go Travis Jones instead of Devontae Wyatt. If they were going defensive line, it would make a lot more sense there. Which we are probably not doing here. No. No, no, no, no, no.

I think it's Brees, man. They were going to take ETN last year. Bro, would you go get a corner, please? Yeah, you're right. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. They were. You're right they were they were they were they were they were they were you're right sorry bills fans i know you don't like it all right brie saw

brie saw 25 um 26 tennessee titans i really think tyler smith yep yeah i really do and i like it i like it a lot never been a great wait uh kenyan Green is still there. Oh, OK. Kenyon Green did fall a little bit here because we usually have to Dallas and trail and fell. Right. OK. Tyler Smith is your guy. I know. I know.

Teron had Kenyon Green in the guest mock. He did. He did. Tyler Smith did visit there as well. I think Tyler Smith's the guy that Grable's going to look at. You think he ate the Nashville hot chicken? Or no? You think he was scared?

Oh, no. He could handle it. Look at the size of that lad, dude. He could handle it. Yeah, size don't mean anything about handling spice. Let me tell you, brother. That is a very, very good point. I'll pick whoever could eat more Nashvilleashville hot chicken i'll go tyler smith okay let's sit let's stick let's stick with tyler smith here he he has a chance to play tackle at

the next level kenyan green in my opinion does not no i think the kenyan green is more of a yeah he's more of an interior offensive lineman yeah and i've been trying to drive the train tyler smith is going earlier than people think bucks 27 trevor please take the floor this is like the worst pick to make in every draft uh so john ledger we had him on for the guest mock draft series and he did a really good job outlining what he thinks their potential options are going to be if all of these guys are on the board which not all of them are dax hill Hill, Devontae Wyatt, Lewis Seen. He mentioned Trey McBride in the tight end position as well.

Yep, he did. And then some interior offensive linemen. You don't think Kenyon Green goes here, right? I don't know if he's... Let's see if he visited the Bucs, because I haven't even looked this up. If I know Todd Bowles, he just loves collecting safeties.

He does. He just loves collecting safeties, and does a great job developing them, so no hate to Todd. I think that... I don't think he visited the Bucs. I don't know. I don't have a good list in front of me right now.

I don't think that should be a bad pick, but if we're doing a predictive mock, I think that it's much more likely for it to be like a Lewis scene. I do too. Let's go Lewis scene. I think scene could just be a box monster. Lewis scene is also the exact kind of safety secondary player that I think Todd Bowles would

freaking love. Oh, absolutely. So let's go Louisine at 27. Yeah. 28 for the Packers. Jermaine Johnson with a pick at 22. Pickens? I don't think Pickens goes in the first round, man. Okay. I think it's

a sin. I think people are doing it wrong. I think he should, but wrong. I think he should. But I don't think he does. Well, I don't think Sky Moore does. I'll say that. I don't think so. I feel like Sky Moore could.

Okay. They're not going to take a small wide receiver. Yeah, there's no way they're going to take, to quote Ben Solak, a small, as he likes to reference guys picking players of lower size davante why is still here but we already picked the defensive lineman bernard raymond is still here i'm also not of the belief that they 100 come out around one with a wide receiver no matter what everybody says. Just getting absolutely nuclear with it.

Is there a nuclear Kenyon green? I think this would be Kenyon green. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, or I wouldn't entirely rule out Bernard Raymond. Let's go Kenyon green. I think Kenyon greens.

I think Kenyon greens are going to be higher on teams. He's the more plug and play guy for this offensive for sure and he does he gives you that same kind of versatility that elkin jenkins does and then the packers have seen firsthand how valuable that is and you can get another player who has that kind of versatility for you i think that's right in the packers wheelhouse so no wide receiver sorry um don't know what to tell you you got better you got better in both trenches you can you draft a wide receiver on day two. Yep. 29, Kansas City Chiefs.

Well, you already said Pickens isn't going to round one. I just don't think he's going to round one. I don't think it's a crazy take. Andrew Booth, I think, probably could be one of these picks. Yep. And do we want David Ojabo? We could consistently do that. I think we want it just like David Ojabo? We consistently do that. I think we love it.

Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. Ojabo or Ibikedi, whatever one. Do you want the guy that could play now or do you want the guy that could be better in the future? I think they'd rather pick the guy who could be better in the future. So I think it's Ojabo. But Ibikedi is on the board. I like that you gave that a shout out.

That's good. That's good there. Bengals at 31. So did we, what was our back-to-back of Kansas City? We did Booth, right? Yeah. So we went Booth. Ojabo.

And then Ojabo, which is, that's a good boost for that Kansas City defense. That's nice. It's nice. Okay. So the Bengals, Joe Goodberry went kair elam on the pot i liked that a lot i do think they need to be thinking corner long term i think that that's also i think that's probably the pick for me i think so too the only other one i could see now that's the one that makes the linder bombs there but i i think they pick a corner i i still don't think linder

bombs going in the first round okay all right so we got here with that Kyrie Allen let's close this thing out dude recent rumblings have been Sam Howell at 32 or 34 for the Lions we are going to do teams that did not pick in the first round do not turn off the podcast do yeah I was a terrible host the podcast

at the top so yes do not turn off the podcast okay the Lions at 32 so Jeff Riz risen telling us that they like their linebackers like flipped my lions draft world upside down uh because i don't like their linebackers but i believe jeff yeah i know i think that they do like their linebackers uh if there was a corner here i feel like they might be tempted um brisker makes a lot of sense brisker does make sense for them however sky more could make a year do you hear what i said the steam lately is 32 34 sam

howe at one of those picks well if you pick him at 32 you get the fifth year option yeah and he's not playing this year because they like Jared Goff. Right. So you keep the fifth-year option. Right. Wow. Sammy Howell, back in the first round. He appeared there May of 2021, and he ends there in April of 2022.

Let's do it. Good for Sam Howell. Let's go Sam Howell. As Connor mentioned, we are going to get to the teams that do not have first-round picks because we love you all, and we have not done a good enough job of highlighting you guys over the last month and a half. But we'll be better. We'll try to be better.

Starting this week, starting with the final mock draft, Chicago Bears at 39. You're going to have an offensive line need, corner need, wide receiver need. I like Bernard Raymond here consistently. Yeah, sure. If he makes it there, I like Bernard Raymond. I like Bernard Raymond in that spot.

I think it's the right value for him. Sure. I like that. I don't really see a lot of their needs just staring them in the face here. No. I would love a Roger McCreary pick if they want a corner because I'm a lot higher on Roger McCreary, so I think those are options.

Big board show tomorrow is going to be fun. Yes, it is. It's going to be a little teaser. But, I mean, here's the thing, Trevor. Are they going to give Justin Fields a shot this year? If you are lads, their roster... Let's do it right now. The offense is unbelievably bad.

I mean, okay, maybe that's a stretch. Maybe not unbelievably bad, especially if Fields has a good year in his own right, that he makes plays on his own. Dude, I was watching Jeremy Ruckert for my final big board and going back to last year, and I was watching some Justin Fields throws, and his kid's so talented.

Yeah. This kid, Justin Fields is so good, man. There's just not much around him. He is so good. They have Equiminia St. Brown, so watch your mouth. I do like me some Darnell Mooney. They have Darnell Mooney. Their starting slot right now is Byron Pringle.

Not ideal. Pringle? Daz Newsom's also on the team. Yes, he is. Their offensive line, Tevin Jenkins, Cody Whitehair, Patrick Lucas, Dakota Dozier, Larry Borum. That's not good at all in any spot. Even if Tevin Jenkins needs to make a massive second year leap

for this thing to have a shot. Yeah. Yikes. Raymond would be my pick. Yeah, let's go away. Something along the offensive line. Let's help Justin Fields out somehow, some way. Browns at 44, I think is the next one.

I'm going to make sure. Colts at 42. Oh, Colts at 42. Okay, who you got for Colts at 42? Yes, Colts at 42. Colts at 42 would have been great for Raymond. They need to tackle really badly. I think they trade up or explore trading up when all is said and done.

They don't get to here. Man, it's ugly for them, honestly. They don't get to here. Man. It's ugly for them, honestly. It's really ugly for them. They need a corner, right? They need a corner. They need another wide receiver. I don't think they'd take wide receiver this early. Sky Moore, dude.

You think he's there at 42? No, probably not. Yeah, you're right. George Pickens might be there. That'd be diabolical. That'd be fun. Matty Ice to George Pickens. I don't think they're going to pick George Pickens, right?

I don't think so either. Because they've already got their ex. They already have Michael Pittman. Yeah. So I just don't. Maybe, I mean, maybe they would. That's why Sky Moore would be perfect for me. But you're right.

I don't think he's going I mean, maybe they would. That's why Sky Moore would be perfect for me. But you're right. I don't, I don't think he's going to make it. So corners. It's not very pretty. Like is Kyler Gordon going to make it to 42? Cause I would like that for them. I think Kyler Gordon could make it to 42. That would be my pick. I think one of him or McCreary will be there.

Yeah. So whatever one you like better in that spot. All right. Okay. One of those two guys, one of those two corners. Who do you want to pick? You want to pick Kyler? You brought up Kyler. Yeah, I'll take Gordon, but they're very close, as people will see

on the much-hyped Big Board show tomorrow. The Cleveland Browns, this is, I would draft George Pickens here. 100%. I'd draft George Pickens a lot earlier, but I think this is realistic for him to potentially go here. And a little bit different than what they have, right? Yeah.

In that wide receiver corpse. They've got Amari Cooper. They have Donovan Peoples-Jones. They have Anthony Schwartz. But that's it. Isn't it kind of weird that Jarvis Landry is just a free agent out there? Yeah. 29 years old.

There's a couple really weird free agents, but I believe Monday. So today, no, no, no, no, no. It's the Monday after the draft. The Monday after the draft is when you no longer go into the compact formula. So you're going to see a lot of people get signed after that. So 61, the San Francisco 49ers. That's the next pick here.

Okay. 60. Okay. 61. Safety. Ooh. There are a lot of... Petrie's going to be gone. Brisker's going to be gone. Ooh.

They need a... Somebody that can play a nickel safety role. Now, obviously, the Niners draft is going to be flipped upside down. If they get picks... If they trade Debo and get picks for him. That this week we'll address it on the show that'll be a hot topic um right right right right right Brian Cook I know it seems a little early for him he fits what they need he's played a ton in the slot he's played in the box he's played free I would circle him and then if you get away from safety, what are you thinking for them?

Offensive line, maybe? Dylan Parham? Yeah. Dylan Parham. Or, um... What's... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm looking up their depth chart to make sure that I have this correct.

Okay, they still do have Alex Mack, but Alex Mack's old. Yeah, yeah. They lost Lakin. Like, I would like Cam Juergens here. Do you think he'd make it here? God, Alex Mack is 36 years old? Yeah. That is wild.

Do you think Cam Juergens would make it here? It's going to be close, but I wouldn't do, like, the whole he won't be here thing on the show right now. The biggest issue with him is that I feel like he is center specific. Very. biggest issue with him is that i feel like he is center specific very and i don't think dylan parham is nearly as center he can play guard so let's go dylan parham at 61 that makes sense that makes sense to me yeah that does make uh that's a good fit okay 64 denver broncos for the first time 64 happy they need a right tackle so many teams that don't pick.

Oh, what is their aim? Yeah, it's nuts. Alright, so for the Broncos here. Corner need? I'm thinking right tackle. I mean, it's not pretty.

Billy Turner is their slated right tackle starter. Not ideal. It's not pretty billy turner is their slated right tackle starter not ideal it's not the best set at wide receiver set in the back at running back early defense looks pretty great on paper right now i don't worry about them at corner right now okay you think right tackle i think i think you need to get a right tackle in there i would say daniel filele oh huge that's the one i know the rankings are all over the place on him you will hear tomorrow trev and i see eye to eye on big old godzilla looking daniel filele don't make many of them that big okay We'll go Daniel Folele there. 86 to the Raiders is the next one. We're just soaring down

this draft. 86. Yeah, 86. A long way, man. Speaking of needing a tackle, Abraham Lucas is in this territory. I guess, yeah. It doesn't jack you up. I know. I understand. understand if you're gonna take a chance on one him i like max mitchell but i don't i don't know if the nfl is gonna take him nearly

this high yep might be a smidge early for max um gotta keys a guard at the next level not a tackle right which they might still need. They need help on the offensive line. That's it's big right now for me. So unless leather. Okay. So if Leatherwood plays right tackle and Colton Miller plays left, I would take got a key here to play guard.

All right. I like him. Cool. Me. Cool. That works. That works. I mean,

we're talking about complete hypotheticals at 86. So yeah, I think that's a decent target for them. Okay. And then the other two that we have, 102 is the first Dolphins pick, and then 104 is the first Rams pick. I would go Cole Strange or Zach Tom for the Dolphins here. I mean, if Cole Strange is there. I don't think he will be, actually.

I think he's going to be an early third-round pick after his RAS was, like, almost a 10. Insane. Yeah, right, right. I don't think he's going to be. I think he's going to be an early third-round pick after his RAS was like almost a 10. Insane. Right, right. I don't think he's going to be there, but he's a great target. You think Tom is here? Yeah, I mean, this is the area for him. Okay, my vote would be Zach Tom, but I would like to hear some Trevor fins-up thoughts in this spot.

Let me look at their depth chart. I never really do a lot of. Okay, they got the wide receiver figured out. Obviously, they got Preston Williams, Jalen Waddell, Tyree Kale, Cedric Wilson. Yeah, they traded Devontae Parker. So they weren't like, they weren't starving for receivers. They certainly need offensive line here.

Oh, it's not good. I mean, like again, like I'd pick Max Mitchell if he's there. This is probably much more around the range that you can take a risk on him. Now, he gives you more athleticism than like a Liam Eikenberg does. And you maybe get to do what you want to do with Eikenberg and probably put him at guard. So my only counter is and I hate to be like the fucking I can't believe I just did that. The numbers guy.

Oops. We'll have to beep that out for people driving with kids yeah sorry guys uh max mitchell's ras might deter them they are such a like we need the best athletes in our scheme what was his rms was it 497 that's not good it doesn't look like that on tape i agree with what you said no it doesn't i agree with what you said that That 8-0-9-3 cone is... Yikes. It's not a zone offensive lineman. I know some people listening to this that might not love analytics as much as everyone else.

They're like, well, who cares? It's what teams do with thresholds. I like the idea, Trevor. I really do. That's my one thing I wonder. I think he's more athletic than that, but I think that's a good note. So we'll pick him.

We'll go Max Mitchell there, but maybe they'll eliminate him off their board. I don't know. Los Angeles Rams at 1-0. Final one, right? Yep. Yep. 1-0-4. Last one.

I hope the Rams just take whoever the most exciting player on the board here is. And what I mean by that is just do something like the fastest wide receiver on the board here is and what i mean by that is just do something like like the fastest wide receiver on the board which would probably be sm use danny gray or something i know that people are laughing probably thinking of the uh two two atwell pick it's different than that no it didn't really work out did it what are the rams like true needs right now like where you're like uh they probably need another pass rusher right when they didn't get vonughn back. Yeah, I mean, they have Terrell Lewis from last year. I think Odell's going to go back there. I don't worry about wide receiver with this team.

Okay, all right. The offensive line, they lost Whitworth to retirement. You're not getting a plug-and-play lineman at pick 104. You're absolutely not. I think they could use linebacker. I know they obviously have bobby wagner but you can get a starter at that position here what linebacker are you picking though who's left let me look at the rankings let's see

let's look at the rankings all the georgia guys are going to be gone in the top 100 i think it's safe to say probably yeah i think troy anderson would still be here I think it's safe to say. Probably, yeah. You think Troy Anderson would still be here, or you think he's going to retire? No, he'll be gone. I do not love Troy Anderson. Hot and cold film. You're betting on the athlete, which I get at the position. A lot. You're betting on the

athlete a lot. You are really betting. Here's who I like in this spot for them. Go ahead. Malcolm Rodriguez from Oklahoma State. I did not watch him. If you could sneak one more player in before the draft. Okay. This dude, he's like 5'11", and he just bangs in the middle of the field.

Takes on contact, never gets lost in the traffic, great tackler, great instincts, good enough athlete in the middle malcolm rodriguez is going to be one of these like third round picks that just starts for 10 years honestly look it's pick 104 you could be you could basically convince me on i've just been badgering trevor for it's random players it's pick 104 for the reigning super bowl champs the rams fans out there will be passionate about this pick, which I respect. Okay, well, now they're going to go look up a tape on your boy, which now I also have to do in the next 72 hours

before we get to night one of the NFL draft. He is awesome. There it is, the final predictive mock draft. We included you guys who don't have first-round picks. Give you a little love. Give you a little shout-out there for some for some suggestions obviously we talked through a lot we talked through a lot of what could be with player selections players who are prioritized positions that are prioritized potential trades even though we weren't doing any here um i think there's just a lot to go over man connor you said this so many

times before and i agree with you it it might just turn into the wild, wild west on Thursday, man. Oh, forget it. Even if you get one or two picks that are like, whoa, in the top 10, whole first round's off the rails. Whole first round's off the rails. And I think that we're going to have a good time, my guy, reacting to what is going to be revealed, what these teams have on their big boards. It's going to have a good time, my guy, reacting to what is going to be revealed, what these teams have on their big boards.

It's going to be unbelievable. I always, you run on adrenaline this week, unlike any other. Like, obviously, Trevor and I will be doing live shows for the draft. But after that, in the wee hours of the night, we'll be doing the recap. So when you guys go to sleep, what is it like the Homer Simpson meme of him smiling with the hat on? Like, you can wake up and you'll have stock exchange on your phone ready to go for the morning to carry you all the way to day two of the NFL draft. Dude, it's going to be amazing. It's so much to unpack.

We're going to sit down and be like, where do we start? That's the best part, man. That's always the best part. I mean, probably the Panthers. I usually like to start on a really positive, like this team killed it. They're going to be awesome in two years. But I mean, I am excited to see

how the Panthers navigate this crazy road. A million teams picking twice. This is unlike any draft we've done. Dude, can't wait. It's going to be a blast. And everybody who knows the schedule of this show, we have shows that come out on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday. Well, it's going to be a blast. And everybody who knows the schedule of this show, we have shows that come out on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday. Well, it's draft week, which means you're getting shows on Monday,

which is this one, Tuesday, which is the big board show, which tomorrow Connor and I are going to talk about our top 100 big boards. And we're going to go, well, Connor's got a lot more than I have that he was able to get narrowed down to what is it? Top 300. You got 300 guys. 315 is where I stopped.

Yeah, really happy, dude. We're going to go over a lot of the big board stuff tomorrow, talk about our player rankings, who we prioritize, who we think is going to be good in the league. Thursday is, we're kind of leaving it up in the air. It might be, honestly, we might open it up for it to be a Q&A,

like have you guys ask us draft questions the morning of the draft, and we might just fire off some takes that way. Maybe Debo will get traded. Who knows? Maybe DK will get traded. Maybe AJ Brown will get traded. Maybe Tom Brady will own the Dolphins finally.

And then after that, you'll have a pot on Friday morning recapping night one, Saturday morning recapping night two, and Sunday morning recapping day three of the NFL drafts. So it is a jam packed week. We are almost going daily podcast, but it's because it's the most wonderful time of the year. It is draft week. Appreciate you guys rocking with us.

We've got so much more great content for you throughout the week. We'll see you on Tuesday. Thank you.