NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 43. Biggest Winners From Day 1 of the 2022 NFL Draft
Episode Date: April 29, 2022Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers brig you their favorite picks, maneuvers, hauls ad moments from day one of the 2022 NFL draft. ...
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podcast in this episode we are recapping day one of the 2022 NFL draft we are coming to you
with our favorite hauls and our biggest winners of the night, whether it's singular picks, couple of picks,
what GMs were able to do, a lot of wheeling and dealing up and down the draft. We're going to
talk about the major storylines as well. We're going to get into some of the things that we
liked and didn't like. It was a major shakeup for a lot of teams throughout the NFL. We're going to
try to go through as many as possible, give you our thoughts on what happened after day one of the
NFL Draft. I am Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell.
Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast, a bonus episode this week.
Well, because it was a freaking NFL draft this week.
We are here to recap everything after round one of the 2022 NFL draft.
I am Trevor Sycamore. That is Connor Rogers.
We are both fresh off, sitting at a desk, talking about the NFL draft for, what was it, Connor?
Five hours straight? six hours straight.
It is way into the night at this point.
We're a little bit loopy, but look, that makes for the best podcast,
the best reactions.
We're not going to hold anything back talking about the winners, losers,
our favorite picks, our least favorite picks, who got better, who didn't.
Connor, what a wild ride that was.
I feel like a lot of the players we thought were going to go round one went round one,
but maybe not in the spots we thought that they were going to go.
Yeah, I think that's right, right?
I think it was, you know, you were prepared for almost everyone, even even Quay Walker.
We kind of knew he was going around one.
It was just a matter of like, can he really be the first linebacker taken?
Right. But Cole Strange was the surprise.
Geez.
I know.
If it was anybody but Bill, I'd kill the pick.
Yeah.
Because he's the GOAT.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's funny.
My cop friend before the draft was like a Joe Tooney light, like the light version.
Not like Joe Tooney, but like, you know, kind of stylistically.
So I was like, oh, of course.
So.
Oh, of course.
Yeah. You know, no Malik in the first round i you know he's probably pretty disappointed um yeah that was it was a little surprising
considering his talent and how much we've heard about him for a long time and then outside of
that you're right trevor everything kind of went maybe not according to plan order and team wise
but the players you expected to be the first round players went Linderbaum even got in there.
And then you have guys like Nicoby Dean that are still waiting for their
name to be called,
but it was,
it was the most fun I've ever had doing a draft.
I thought the wide receiver trades and the teams moving around to,
you know,
and I have some winners here,
obviously really.
And no coincidence,
two of my three winners did make big moves up and it was a lot of fun to watch it all go down.
It's hard to not have the teams that made multiple selections being in the winners.
Yeah.
Because they're picking up a lot of good players.
And I felt like a lot of teams really did a lot of great stuff.
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we've been here way too long you guys know who was picked where so instead we're just going to
cherry pick a little bit talk about some of our favorite picks our favorite fits some storylines
some big things to happen because we had some player for pick trades as well connor i'll start with you a big winner give me a big winner that you had from night one of the nfl draft
the new york giants and i thought you were gonna go with the jets i mean i really i really wanted
you to because i didn't purposely on our bleacher report show thank god felder did um so i'm going
with both new york teams and so i'll just pair them here together. And I have another team
that's not a New York team to keep my bias away
so everybody that is not a Jets
fan listening to this pod doesn't hate me. I'm sorry.
I really... Do you have bias toward the New York Giants?
No. Like, is the greater
good for New York just good in general?
No, no, no, no. I don't hate the
Giants. Like, that's not... Like, growing up a Mets fan,
you traditionally do not like the Yankees. Sorry, Yankee
fans. It's not like that with the Gi you're just kind of like oh whatever we like see
you once every four years um and you have the snoopy bowl in the preseason which is just a
colossal disaster all the time wait it's called the snoopy bowl yeah well wait why i actually like
don't even know where that originated from what yeah it's it's like i said this is not a right this is not exactly
the subway series now i have to look this up while please do it except that i don't know that
it'll show you where my mush brain is so the jets and the giants to me man they did well they did
really well i mean when you look at it the giants needed to lay a ground floor uh i said on the show
that they they just kept trying to put a roof over nothing
with Dave Gettleman, and in this era,
they start things off by getting a trench player on each side of the ball
that's a difference maker.
For Evan Neal, he's going to come in and be a really good right tackle,
a reliable pass protector, and a strong drive blocker.
On the defensive side, I think there's more risk with KT,
but you know how much I like him.
I know you like him a lot.
I think it was worth a gamble at five.
You didn't take him at one. You took him at five. So for the Giants, I love the building
blocks in the trenches. I'll wait a little bit. I'll let you go before I get to the Jets as well.
And my other team, Adam, I am very excited to talk about. I've been excited for the direction
of this team after they've been in the basement for a long time. So that's the one I'm excited.
But the Giants here laid a ground floor. they didn't have to move they've just done a
really really good job and i think that's going to be the joe shane era i think it's going to be
slow and steady and i think at the end of the day it's going to eventually help them win the race
when you think about the potential outcomes for the new york giants coming away with k von tibideau
and evan neal was very high in the power rankings of possibilities i think like
the the only higher possibilities would have been maybe cave on at five and either derrick stingley
or charles cross just because i had them rated on my big board higher than evan neal but the evan
neal pick also makes so much sense because he played right tackle right right? That that's the part that makes a ton of sense.
He's already got the background of right tackle.
You don't have to risk an unknown of movie,
either Iki Ikuonu or Charles Cross or whoever it was going to be over to the,
to the right side of the line.
I know Ikuonu wasn't there when the Jets were picking at seven,
but just for any of those guys,
Evan Neal was always the easier projection to right tackle because you've seen
it. So outside of them also getting Stingley, maybe right there with one of those two picks at five and
seven, this was one of the best case scenarios for Joe Shane and the New York Giants. He did a
fantastic job making the most out of five and seven. I know they wanted to trade back. We
talked about that plenty in the pre-draft uh process but i think that they looked at this
situation and said to themselves of course we would like to spread out our impact on the draft
in the next year too but these are two really damn good football players that we have a chance to get
on our team and that connor for as much as there is the game of it navigating in the right way and
everything that is what it is all about. Getting damn good football players.
And I think Joe Shane did an amazing job in his first job,
or in his first draft in the GM seat for the New York Giants.
The team that I wanted to point out first is my big winner,
is the Philadelphia Eagles.
Yeah, that's the one.
The Philadelphia Eagles went into tonight with picks 15 and 18, and they walked out with Jordan Davis and A.J. Brown.
Now, of course, there are other little picks later in the draft football team massively better with what they were able to do with their picks because
sometimes it's not just about the players that are in the draft pool when you are on the board
at the time sometimes it is about maximizing the value of that draft pick which could go
elsewhere in the league to some already established players the eagles had the cap space they went out
they got themselves aj brown and how many times connor did we have the eagles had the cap space they went out they got
themselves aj brown and how many times connor did we have the eagles drafting a wide receiver with
one of these first round picks all the time all the time almost every time i tell you every time
would you rather have aj brown or one of these wide receivers in the draft i think the proven
commodity of aj brown's probably at the top or at least there's certainly an argument against
any wide receiver in this class even thinking about them on a rookie contract versus
A.J. Brown and an extension so for the Eagles to be able to do this thought it was fantastic by
Howie Roseman very aggressive with the Philadelphia Eagles going up and get a unicorn of a defensive
lineman in Jordan Davis having faith in how good of a football player he is kind of pushing position
of value to the side,
which is hilarious for a team that won't pick a linebacker when they need
one, but go get Jordan Davis, go get AJ Brown.
I love this hall for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Yeah. The, um, the tired theory was take a linebacker, you goons.
And then the wired theory was we told you to grow up.
We told you to take Jordanordan davis so nobody ever
breathes near your bad linebackers and it's gonna work um no it was cool i mean we had jason kelsey
on with us and he was just screaming i saw it i saw it he's an unbelievable human uh great tape
grinder but even better entertainer so it was cool man i mean it was the eagles killed it eagles would
be my number one team like you had
here i think it was they were aggressive getting aj brown i mean how about the titans by the way i
don't want to get too deep into that well right now or do we do this yeah i think we do we gotta
stick we're doing it we gotta keep it's topical that we're doing it uh brutal it's bad it's bad
and it's you know you're looking at somebody over here that I really like, Traylon Burks.
But I like Traylon Burks as a player that is going to be a piece for somebody
in maybe year number two.
I think you're the number one seed in the AFC.
You're the number one seed in the AFC.
And to me, it's bad business, Trevor.
And I understand every team's
playing though we weren't prepared for the wide receiver market to look like this and guys get
25 mil man it's you read the Vrabel quotes I know coaches lie I know GMs lie I'm not killing them
for that I get it I don't think he was lying it's a yeah good point I don't think he was lying man
he said they they asked him and whator's talking about is they asked him,
what do you think about the A.J. Brown trades?
Do you think that there's a possibility of A.J. Brown getting traded?
And he said, not as long as I'm head coach.
And I don't know if you saw – did you see the clip afterwards, Conor,
when you got off?
So they had the camera on the war room.
I'm serious.
It's a solid choice.
I wish I did.
They had the camera on the war room for mike
vrabel and when they officially traded aj brown he didn't like cause a scene but he got up out
of his seat vrabel's a body language guy and he walked to the end of the room and he's he was he
was effing pissed man he's pissed he know he knows his football team got objectively worse this weekend.
How can you not?
Man, it's one of those situations where I don't really,
if you're in that locker room, you're looking around,
and I know a lot of NFL guys are not built,
they're built way better than this,
but me personally, I look around and I just go,
you know, where are we right now?
What are we doing?
We've been close.
We've been dang close
for a couple years now and that's a dude entering his prime he's a great dude he's a special player
i don't know man you need special players to elevate middle tier middle of the pack quarterbacks
and that's what ryan tannahill is and it's a tough sell for me it's a really tough sell for me i
don't i didn't like that I didn't like that at all.
I think the Titans are in for a major regression this year coming up.
I'd imagine the sportsbooks are going to skew you that way.
All right, so I'll get into my winner number two of three.
And it is the Jets, and I hate to do this
because I'm a pretty pragmatic Jets observer.
Should I say that?
I think, you know, I'm pretty honest with this team.
Trevor, I joke with you all the time.
I was shocked they took Sauce in the top five, and I love Sauce.
He was a top seven player for me, so it was like, whatever.
I don't mind the player.
I was definitely shocked they took a corner.
You guys know I've been saying Icky for a long time.
Obviously, they believe in Becton.
But I never thought Garrett Wilson would be there at 10. I've been saying Garrettcky for a long time obviously they believe in Becton but I never thought Garrett Wilson would be there at 10 I've been saying Garrett Wilson's going a
lot earlier than people think he makes it to 10 they take him I think they would have taken Drake
London if he was there but he went to the Falcons and Garrett Wilson and Sauce is a good draft
right I like those guys a lot they're good players the reason they're a winner though is because they
went back in and got Jermaine Johnson and i heard that they were trying to get back in basically from pick 15 for jermaine johnson and
they just couldn't get in they just could not get in nobody wanted to get out uh for the price they
were willing to pay and they they got in at 26 do you remember off the top of your head what they ended up getting? Or what did they trade? So they sent 35, 69, and 163.
I think they got back 101 along with 26.
It was a pretty even trade on the points chart,
which is not always the case with trading up.
And they got Jermaine.
And I know some people are lower on Jermaine. I don't think anybody looked at Jermaine and you know I know I know people some people are
lower on Jermaine I don't think anybody looked at Jermaine Johnson at pick 26 and I was gonna say
I don't know how you could watch Jermaine Johnson and think that 26 is bad range for him man I mean
high floor run defender good pass rush plan a good tester this guy man it was he waited a long
time waited longer than I thought he should have went,
and the Jets are a very, they've been abysmal as a pass-rushing team.
And if Carl Lawson is back healthy and they got Jermaine Johnson,
they're finally on to something.
I'm not preaching that the Jets are ready for the playoffs
or a contender in the NFC.
They're just trying to be competent.
And you tell any draft fan, hey, you got Sauce Gardner,
Garrett Wilson, and Jermaine Johnson.
You got to feel really good about that.
Hey, they're picking up a crap ton of talent, man.
I love to see it.
I absolutely love that they were without a doubt a winner for me as well.
You love when you navigate the draft in that regard because, you know, you're sitting there and you're the jets and even if you and i had a lot of conversations
about whether or not that they would take a corner at four and i think the conversation
shifts a little bit especially over the last week when you realize that there's going to be a lot of
corners that are going to go in the first round. And really the only projected corners
that we didn't get in this first round
are Andrew Booth and Kyler Gordon.
Well, Kyler Gordon, I think,
didn't test as well as people wanted him to.
So there's kind of maybe limitations with the athleticism.
That's why he's going to be a second round guy.
And for Andrew Booth,
there's some health concerns with him.
He's now had surgery on his sports hernia twice.
He's had core surgery twice so that's not good so you're all of a sudden really worried about that as well so
of the corners that you would pick in the first round or let's just say if you're the jets of the
corners that you would think okay like maybe they'll be available for the for us at the top
of the second round that you would feel great about you probably
don't have as much faith that that's going to happen from the conversations that we have heard
over the last couple of days the corners were going to go pretty high in the first round so
at that point stingley goes three you think to yourself all right well the, the Falcons, and the Seahawks could all take a corner before us at 10,
I think it was a change of the draft strategy
where they went, we're going to go get a lockdown corner at four,
we're going to get a damn good wide receiver at 10,
and then we're going to see what we can do about edge rusher
potentially getting aggressive at the back end of the first round.
And whether it was Jermaine Johnson or not,
or it could have been Arlo Libicati, it could have been David Ojabo or it could have been arla libicata it could have been david ojabo could have been boy a mafe could
have been drake jackson whoever i felt like the jets did a really great job pivoting what was
going to be the most beneficial for them from a draft plan perspective and that's why they're
big winners to me even beyond just the players they
got so i like them a lot for that for that reason yeah no i think you're right with the corner
strategy i think it really was something that typically they would not do but they love sauce
and who didn't love i couldn't find anybody i do love ranch i i i couldn't find anybody that
didn't like sauce gardner um so i think it was the matter of maybe this isn't typically the direction we go,
but we love the player.
We feel good about the player, and we feel good about how the draft,
like you said, Trevor, starts to turn at other positions
rather than quarterback that we still need.
Another draft that I really love was the Kansas City Chiefs.
They started the night sitting at 29 and 30.
You knew they weren't going to pick back to back in the first round.
We heard that they were going to be a team that was going to be aggressive.
We thought about Jameson Williams.
Okay, are they going to move up for him?
Probably would have taken too much to move up.
Now, the Detroit Lions moved up from 32 to 12 to go get Jameson Williams.
And so I didn't think that was going to happen but now that ends
up being the case gmc chiefs though they trade up from 29 they go to 21 you damn good cornerback
damn good secondary player i'm not even just gonna limit him to be in a corner i think it's just
gonna be a damn good secondary player for them we were talking on the pff live draft show and i can't
remember if it was if it was chris collinsworth or who who brought this up
and said this but they think that trent mcduffie could play that tyron matthew freelance role in
the secondary where you just trust this guy's football iq and instinct so much you let him do
what he needs to do i think that that could be the case with trent mcduffie and so i love that
pick and then one of the best value picks the entire first round, probably the best value pick. If
you ask me, according to my board, George Karloftis going 30th to the Kansas state chiefs
that hits two major needs, a corner need and edge rusher need, but they do them with fantastic
talent players. I had George Karloftis as a top 15 player. I believe it was 12th on my board.
I think he's a damn good edge rusher, man.
I understand that he wasn't for everybody,
certainly in the pre-jab process.
Some people didn't like the inflexibility that he had,
that he wasn't as bendy as other pass rushers,
but he is strong.
The hands are violent.
He's going to be able to step in right away
and be a workhorse edge rusher
for that Kansas City Chiefs defense,
something that they desperately need,
along with just the new blood in general so two fantastic defensive players going to the Kansas City
Chiefs I think that Brett Beach did a really nice job navigating this first round all right my last
winner is the Detroit Lions you talked about them going up and getting JMO I just think that
the Lions are a team traditionally when I think of them, and I know this feeling well, Lions fans,
because I've thought about it for the Jets for a long time.
I've thought about it with the Giants recently.
I've thought about it with a lot of teams that pick high in the draft.
You think of the team, and it's very hard for you to think of an identity player
or a blue-chip talent or somebody that scares you
or somebody that you're excited when you turn the TV on to watch them.
And with the Lions walking out of this draft
with Aiden Hutchinson and Jameson Williams,
now I think they got guys on both sides of the ball.
That when I think of the Detroit Lions,
I think of Aiden Hutchinson.
I think of him sacking the quarterback
and closing out games.
I think of Jameson Williams catching 50-yard touchdowns.
I think that the Lions knew last year
that they just needed football players.
They need to load up on average starting talent, and that's okay.
And Pene Sewell's different, but obviously a cornerstone tackle,
but I'm talking outside of that pick.
And they hit on a nice pick on Amon Ross St. Brown as well.
But now I just look at the Lions and I go, okay,
I'm starting to see where the blue chip talent is going to fall.
It's at positions that I put a high priority on.
They put a high priority on.
And I think the Lions have the right thing going.
I think, of course, the story with them when it's crunch time
is eventually going to be, is Jared Goff enough to get you over?
And I know a lot of people instantly say no to that.
We'll see what this year brings.
And if not, then let's see what next year's quarterback class can bring for you.
So I like the Lions' aggressive nature to not be one of those rebuilding teams that that's like we'll just take 12 players every year and we hope we have a good
roster instead they actually decide to be aggressive and go get a dynamic game-changing
offensive threat to pair with their defensive game-changing threat so i think people will notice
that neither of us had the baltimore ravens on. And I wanted to talk about the Ravens for two different reasons.
One, they ship off Marquise Brown to the Arizona Cardinals, which...
Lamar Jackson, not happy.
Lamar Jackson's not...
Look, I get that Lamar Jackson's not happy that Marquise Brown is gone.
How did the Ravens get 23 overall from Marquise Brown?
Well, because... Do I have to say it?
What's...
It's a Ponzi scheme!
I mean, what are we doing?
It's a Ponzi scheme.
What are the Cardinals doing?
They paid 20.
Marquise Brown, in his own draft, went 25th overall.
He is in the final year of his rookie deal.
So you were about to have to pay him.
The Ravens are about to have to pay him.
They're probably going to pick up the fifth year option on him because they
have to now at this point,
but they're now going to cash out on this guy and they traded the number 23
overall pick for him to give some chemistry with Kyler murray i get x kyler murray
played with marquise brown so you think you're you're oh it's a good fit doing justice by kyler
murray you get the speed the deep deep threat element so you know you've got the all-around
wide receiver in deandre hopkins you got the deep threat of marquise brown but i just thought the
value was crazy man especially because you're about to have threat in Marquise Brown, but I just thought the value was crazy, man,
especially because you're about to have to pay Marquise Brown.
So I thought the Ravens did an excellent job.
If they were going to move Marquise Brown,
moving him to the team that was going to pay the most for him
because they needed to,
getting a really great draft pick back for him,
and then the picks that they had, that they selected.
Kyle Hamilton, which I really really liked gnarly pick which was it was i love the player i also love the fit and they're really emphasizing safety play after going and giving marcus williams the money
they did in free agency the tyler linderbaum one is interesting because on the surface level,
what did he go?
25.
Didn't they pick 25,
24.
No,
they picked 25th because they traded back to 23. And then they moved back to spots when the bills wanted to trade up to
go get Kyrie.
They picked Tyler Linderbaum at 25 objectively versus the big board.
Fantastic selection.
Tyler Linderbaum.
Fantastic football.
Yep.
The problem is Connor. Tyler Linderbaum, fantastic football player. The problem is, Connor,
Tyler Linderbaum,
the worry about him going into this draft was size,
overall size,
and the strength that he would have with it.
Barely over 6'2",
296 pounds.
That was the 6th and the 5th percentile
for interior offensive lineman in the
nfl the wingspan first percentile the arm length first percentile so this is a very much very much
a smaller interior offensive lineman who predicated off of movement skills zone blocking concepts
that is not what the ravens do the The Ravens' offensive line is beef.
Every single player along their offensive line is 315 pounds or bigger.
And when you look at Tyler Linderbaum, you've got some PFF stats here.
Anthony Tresh tweeted these out after the pick was made.
Tyler Linderbaum's career at Iowa.
169 gap scheme snaps. 765 zone guy zone gaps or zone snaps Baltimore's run game is
predicated on gap scheme plays almost 70 percent of their run plays are power and gap scheme plays
so this is a player who I understand why the Ravens did this their philosophy is to pick
the best player available but Linderbaum is not what they do he's just he's just straight up not
what they do and so he's just gonna have to be a different blocker which I think there were already
concerns with him going into the NFL.
And I don't know, man, I just, I like what the Ravens did.
The Garrett to cost.
He did a great job navigating the draft, making some trade backs,
getting two really great football players.
But I really wonder about how Linder bombs going to end up with the Ravens.
So that's kind of why he just, they,
they weren't on my list because I have a question about that and how well that's going to end up with the Ravens. So that's kind of why he just, they weren't on my list
because I have a question about that and how well that's going to fit.
They're one of the teams that you almost cross off.
Right, them and the Titans.
Yeah, you're right, them and the Titans, you know, where you look at it.
You look at it and you're just like, wow, you know.
I mean, he's a great player, and I would imagine that he's going to be okay.
But it's definitely a little bit of a surprise.
And you go back to the Arizona thing.
You've got to be careful because Hollywood Brown is ascending
according to the stats.
He had his first 1,000-yard season.
Man, it was on almost 150 targets.
The yards per reception were down.
So he was a target monster there
because they didn't have anyone rashad bateman came back late for injury right it's a good fit
in arizona i just you're right paying the 23rd overall pick for that guy that you're gonna have
to pay i like the player going to arizona yeah i don't like the process of how they went about
doing it now i guess they technically were in a spot where they seven and
oh last year so i'm sure they think they're close i'm sure they think that the division is theirs
for the taking no russell wilson right uh maybe they can they believe that they can hang with the
los angeles rams and flip at the coin things end up differently they win the division they win in
the playoffs.
I'm sure they think they're there,
so this is the move that they're trying to make,
but I don't know.
I'm just not believing it. I think there's also a lot.
I think there's a lot of turmoil there with Kyler Murray, honestly.
For sure.
For sure, yes.
There's a lot of turmoil there with Kyler.
You obviously are, you extended Cliff,
so you bought into Cliff for the short term at least.
I think they just have a lot of issues
and they're trying to address them with these moves.
And I don't know if it's enough, Trevor.
I don't know.
I hate to be, you know,
just on a hopefully optimistic night for Cardinals fans.
I just don't know if it's enough in this era
and I just wonder where it goes from here.
Do you have any other storylines you want to hit other picks anything like that no I mean I think
we're we're gonna have our hands full recapping night number two um there was obviously a lot
going on and we'll put a bow on this thing by really going deep into it throughout the week but
that was the big thing for me just the teams that stuck out and really won this thing um and you
know obviously the games have to be played,
but you can judge a draft right away because you understand teams or team.
You see how teams understand the board, how it's going to go, the value.
Bucks didn't make a pick, right?
Bucks did not make a pick.
They start things off beginning of day two.
I do want to hit on quarterbacks.
Kenny Pickett goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Yep.
And no other quarterback goes in the first round.
Well, I thought that that was absolutely wild,
but it's kind of crazy, right?
Because we all had our evaluations of this quarterback class.
And we said to ourselves, this is not a great quarterback class.
But then we said, we know the league is going to pick more than,
more than one or two.
Like that's just the way that things are. And it turns out nobody wanted to. But then we said, we know the league is going to pick more than one or two.
Like, that's just the way that things are.
And it turns out, nobody wanted to.
Nobody traded back up for these guys.
Nobody wanted to get the fifth-year option.
Nobody's that desperate.
And in fact, the Pittsburgh Steelers, they didn't move anywhere in the draft.
They stayed at number 20, and they picked QB1. In this day and age of football,
the Steelers needed a QB badly above anything else.
And they stayed at 20 and picked QB one off the board.
That is almost unfathomable.
It was Kenny Pickett.
And I'm not going to lie to you, Connor.
I don't even know if Kennyny pickett beats out mitch
trubisky for the starting job yeah you know i'm worried about yeah i'm worried about it man at
that pick it's fine um i think kenny will be fine there it's it doesn't really you know get you
jacked up um i'm glad they didn't move for him i think they were smart to be patient I do agree with the idea that with Mitch there why not take Malik
and let Malik sit that to me and you're talking to somebody with me that I had Kenny over Malik
by a spot I mean whatever it's one's upside one's floor the point was to stay away from this
quarterback draft but I yeah it didn't really make sense
right it's you know i think and i keep as someone that keeps saying kenny's gonna be fine there
i just think you you draft kenny if you didn't sign trubisky but you signed trubisky and you
think you can get the production out of him that you're gonna get out of kenny why not take the
swing from a leak so it's an interesting one i'm not really i don't really feel strongly about it either way and i hate to say that about anything because i know we're in
the entertainment business where we always have to huff and puff either way but the steelers draft
i just kind of shrugged and was like it doesn't really make them that much better it doesn't
really like make them a scary threat in the afc but it also wasn't outright stupid yeah so look i
i understood the logic of the pick, all the things around it.
It's not the pick that I would have made, but at the end of the day,
I don't think any of us would have.
They didn't trade any extra draft capital to move up to get him.
And the pick that they picked him with was number 20.
Right.
So like, even if it doesn't work out, you are right.
It's not like they burned so many things.
It's not like they're sitting here like the San Francisco 49ers
who won't play Trey Lance for some reason
or, like, won't commit to Trey Lance, and you're over here like,
buddy, you are three first-round picks into this guy.
Yeah, we need you.
I don't care how bad he looks.
You better throw him out there and figure out what you got.
So they're not in that situation.
As I'm kind of scrolling here,
kind of just doing a quick little recap of some other teams.
Icky Aquanoo, man.
Love the fact the Panthers were able to sit at six.
Killer draft.
Sorry, Panthers fans, that we put you through mock draft hell for months
and you got my favorite player in the entire draft.
I will fill out the apology form next week, as promised.
I might hold you to that.
I might even make you read that out on the show.
Green Bay.
What about Green Bay?
Stinker.
Stinker.
Draft sucked.
Now we're getting some emotion.
Devontae Wyatt.
Yeah, I'm back now.
I got my second winder in the show.
I was yawning before.
And it's not Trevor's fault.
It's just it's been a day, folks.
We're getting into the 3 a.m. window soon davante why it's a fine player i don't i actually we've
mocked him there to green bay all the time and i'm not even one of those people that's like oh
they didn't get aaron rogers a wide receiver everything's ruined i mean i just don't get the
man in quay walker i just you have campbell he's what you want Quay Walker to be Quay Walker to be right
right I I don't understand I don't understand like you why didn't why didn't you move up and
everybody's like oh that's not what they do where has this gotten them the last couple of years? Where's it gotten them? Asking Aaron Rodgers to play hero ball.
I just, are we in for a reality check with Green Bay this year?
Like there's no Devontae Adams.
I thought we were in for a reality check last year.
I thought we were in for a reality check last year with Green Bay.
Yeah, but they didn't make it to the Super Bowl.
It was the last dance.
And guess where it got them? I mean what what are we celebrating here at green bay that they make it
to the playoffs i just with my expectations for green bay and aaron rogers who i think is
incredible like truly this is disappointing and my expectations for them are,
cool, you'll win a dog crap division.
Dog crap.
And then you get to the playoffs where the big dogs are,
and you go, oh, maybe we should actually be a little aggressive in the draft.
I just, man, I don't know.
There's not a lot of wide receivers left either.
What are they going to do? I don't know. What am I? There's not a lot of wide receivers left either. What are they going to do?
I don't know.
Like, I mean, what are we?
What do they?
What is their plan?
Sammy Watkins, right?
Alan Lazard, Randall Cobb.
Oh my God, I forgot they lost Valdez Scaling.
Nope.
Yeah, don't have him anymore.
And you know what?
You almost look at it and go, Rodgers will make it work somehow of course you will because he's incredible but making it work is the
thing during the regular season guys don't make things work during the playoffs that's when the
talent wins football games i just man they've got a good defense. They've got a really good player in, obviously, Devontae Wyatt.
They've got somebody that can be a good player,
and he's not one right now in Quay Walker.
He's fine. He's not a good player right now.
He's not instinctive. He gets stuck in traffic.
He's a big athlete.
And he was one of the least impressive players on that amazing defense.
Sorry.
N'Kobe Dean was better.
Jordan Davis was better.
Jalen Carter was better.
Devontae Wyatt was better.
Louis Seen was better.
There was a lot of games where Darion Kendrick was better,
who's not even like a sixth-round player in this draft
because he ran a 4-7-5-40.
I know I'm being like really ridiculous right now,
but I just don't understand that pick first linebacker off the
board too first linebacker off the board it's pretty crazy pretty man there was there's so
many things they could have done to become a a more scary playoff team and that i don't know man
it's just frustrating i I love the Charles.
On another note, I love the Charles Cross pick.
Smart pick.
Seattle Seahawks.
I thought that that was great.
They didn't go off the wall, which I absolutely love.
It was funny.
I feel like the most common pick combination for the New Orleans Saints
was some order combination of Chris Olave and Trevor Penning.
And Trevor Penning.
Over and over again.
And it happened.
That's what you really love to see.
You do.
Obviously, we were lower on Penning, but it was like,
that happened. Yep. Cool.
Sure. And you move on.
Let me throw one last one at you.
What did you think of Kenyon Green going to the Texans
in the top 15?
It was so funny because Chris Collinsworth was on the desk
with us for night one, and he loves Kenyon Green going to the Texans in the top 15. Dude, it's so funny because Chris Collinsworth was on the desk with us for night one,
and he loves Kenyon Green.
He loves Kenyon Green.
I mean, he's a likable player.
Yeah, no, I know, but he absolutely loves Kenyon Green,
and when Kenyon Green went 15, he was like,
that's it, that's the pick, they killed it, what a draft.
And I'm like, all right, okay.
Like, I wasn't expecting Kenyon Green to go until the 20s,
but he ends up going 15 to the Houston Texans.
Look, good offensive lineman.
Houston needs offensive lineman.
That's about as deep as it is.
It ain't that deep.
It's pretty simple.
Yeah, you're right.
Especially with the top three offensive tackles already off the board.
Is Zion Johnson maybe better at his job as an interior offensive
lineman than kenny green might be as an offensive tackle or an offense or an interior offensive
lineman maybe but at that point it's not like it's egregious to me no i had 125 and zion 27
so it was like whatever but it was i just looked and I was like, is this a pick you can make as the Texans right now?
Dude, yeah, of course.
Like, it felt like a pick that, like, Cowboys could make.
There's also a Super Patriots pick, you know?
Yeah, but they're so far away.
They're so far away.
It was fine.
I didn't completely kill the pick.
I like Kenyon Green at guard.
I really do.
I think he moves people out of the way in the wrong game.
They couldn't run the football at all last year it wasn't like a bad bad pick it was just
like oh okay i did not have kenyon green in the top 15 but it's you like the player so you're
just kind of shrug like uh uh tyler smith going to the cowboys really like that one i was a big
fan of that i think he's gonna play i saw people killing it and i was like man no they invest in the offensive line and if you're gonna invest in the offensive
line in that range take a young guy with a ton of upside hell no no no that's a good development
guy put him next to tyrant smith let him uh not every first round pick needs to be like
slam dunk blue chip impact guy i like the jacksonville jaguars who probably wanted quay
walker at 33 i had seen that over the last couple of days they got the better player saw quay walker
go off the board at 22 and you know nicole b dean for as good as he was in college and for as great
as his film can sometimes seem like it is his measurables not
every team was going to be in on him that was just a fact perhaps the jaguars were one of those teams
that weren't super in on the kobe dean so if you see quay walker go off the board
they they probably were saying to themselves okay we we really wanted a linebacker at 33
we got to get aggressive go make sure we get one and they went up a couple of spots got
out of 33 move up with tampa 27 and go get devon lloyd i actually really like that move for them
they kind of really transform their linebacker room from what it was last year so i thought
that that was good on them i also thought it was good on the buffalo bills to get aggressive and
go get cb2 you know we both thought that they were going to go with a running back if they were going to stick at 25 but turns out this was in fact the year right we we had talked about this a lot during
the pre-gaff process it's like they've had a cornerback need before and they haven't addressed
it will they do it this year turns out they did and for them to get a starting caliber man coverage corner in the 20s i think is a big win for buffalo i really do a team
that's got super bowl aspirations doesn't have a ton of holes and they fill it with a damn good
player here at 23 i love this move yeah ilm's a nice player i'm really intrigued to see how he
adjusts in that zone scheme like how he looks and i it might help him is what i'm saying so
that was an interesting one i like
devin lloyd to jacksonville's big fan of that i obviously like loved dax hill the bengals my god
that might be my favorite pick of the first round dude i'm worried about that pick really why i'm
worried about that pick because i i think it feels like they're not going to pay Jesse Bates.
Oh, well, yeah.
I mean, I'm not looking at that.
If you're drafting Dax Hill just to replace Jesse Bates,
what are you gaining?
Pay Jesse Bates.
You drafted the good football player.
Go pay him.
You're in a winning window.
That's the part that they – look, you know I love Dax Hill. No, I know what you're in a winning window that's the part that look you know i love dax hell
and oh i know what you're saying they can't play the thing is they can't they can't play
dax dax hill can do two things really well right that's what his versatility was going into this
draft he could be a rangy free safety for you because he's got really nice athletic ability
and ball skills he's got a high football iq as well so you can play him in space and you can be
very happy with it or you could play him as a slot corner okay well the bangles have jesse
bates playing free safety who had an unbelievable postseason last year was the true back end of
their defense who they put put on the franchise tag and jesse bates was not happy about it
and they're in their their slot corner is mike hilton Connor, Mike Hilton can't play anywhere else.
No, I know. I know.
Unless they are putting Dax Hill at outside
corner instead of Eli
Apple, what are you doing with this pick
other than
trying to save money in your pocket
for a good player you should be paying?
Man,
you're right in Cincinnati, dude.
You should march down and be like
what the hell is this that's that's my you know i love dax no you're no you're no you made a good
point you made a really good point that would be concerning to me i would not like that aspect of
it last one i want to touch on before we close on and finally sleep um how about johan dotson going
16 i figured johan dotson would go in the first round,
but Ron Rivera marches to the beat of his own drum.
That's all I'm going to say.
Whatever you think Washington's going to do every year.
Yeah, it's different.
Probably not.
Well, I found it fascinating that they traded at 11, right?
So you had their choice of,
this is how you know they really like Drake London
and maybe even Garrett Wilson. They had their choice of this how you know they really like drake london and maybe even garrett wilson they had their choice of chris alave or jameson williams or trailing berks and
they traded out of 11 and knew the saints were coming up for a wide receiver and they went back
to 16 and took johan dotson so it was like they were clearly very hot yeah they were clearly very
high on dotson to the point where they were willing to pass on Chris Alave and Jamison Williams that was just it was fascinating to me and it was
tricky because I really like Jahan Dotson the player and I know you do too but it was just one
of those scenarios where I was like man he's not a first round wide receiver in my eyes and there
was first round wide receivers there and and they passed and you know I mean if they might be right
and might get the last laugh in this but i was definitely the most one of the more intriguing picks of the draft i was like
that's a great point that's a good point trading out of a wide receiver prime spot
just to draft another wide receiver that was probably lower on the list
a little strange little sauce not sure i'm down that draft strategy but hey like i said washington
kind of does their own thing ron or vera kind of likes his guys and he goes after him well there we go that is uh that's
a wrap our our little recap there of round one of the 2022 nfl draft look if we didn't spend a ton
of time talking about your team i promise you we're gonna get to it over the next couple of
days especially after day two there's a lot of really great players on the board.
We're doubling up on the picks.
It's two rounds coming up tomorrow.
Connor, I'm very excited for it.
Buddy, you need to get some sleep because we need to be ready for our shows that we got tomorrow and, of course, the podcast afterwards.
But, man, this is a lot of fun.
I'm excited.
We are right in the thick of it.
I'm excited for day two, man.
A lot of good players left.
Yeah, day two is the best.
Day two is my favorite day by far.
The way it moves, the amount of players left on the board,
the strategies, the trades.
It's by far the best.
So we're going to have even more fun recapping tomorrow.
It'll be a little faster.
Like Trev said, we'll get to your team.
Have no fear.
And we're going to keep this thing rolling.
We get to evaluate some draft strategies
total draft hauls over the next couple of episodes here very excited to see what teams get to do with
that momentum that they had from round one how they are going to bring it into round two we are
going to be back with you late in the wee hours after day two of the 2022 nfl draft so that means
we will see you guys tomorrow. Bye.