NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 47. Draft Grades for Every Team in the NFC North & AFC East

Episode Date: May 5, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers break down every pick -- what they loved, what they liked and what they didn't get -- for the Green Bay Packers, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Chicago Bears, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, New York Jets and Miami Dolphins

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. In this episode, we are once again going through two divisions, the AFC East and the NFC North, breaking out all four teams for each, talking about every single selection that they had in the 2022 NFL Draft, giving you what we loved, what we liked, what we didn't exactly agree with,

what we didn't get, and then an overall grade for every single team in that division. We're going to talk about how they made their picks, certain trades. This episode is definitely going to talk a lot about moving up, moving down in the draft, how that goes into these draft grades, and so much more. I am Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is my co-host, Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I am Trevor Sycamore.

That is Connor Rogers, fresh off watching his team come up just short in triple overtime action in playoff hockey. Connor, I'm surprised you even made it to the podcast, buddy. You got to be hurting today. I am hurting. You'll hear it a little bit in my voice. It's just been one of those runs right now. The day started out good.

Mets win the doubleheader, both games. Triple overtime. I'm not going to get on here and complain about NHL officiating, but it's an absolute dumpster fire. Rangers still should have won the game, so it's disappointing. We're moving on, dude. We're sad hockey fans right now, you and I. We're moving on.

We're going to be okay. Hey, listen, Tampa Bay Lightning lost. What was it? What was it? 5-0, 6-0. Not triple overtime. I couldn't keep up. I couldn't keep up.

I don't know how much they lost by, but we're all bouncing back. We're all bouncing back. The end of the week is going to be better than how the week started. I'll just say that. But, okay, we're not here to talk about hockey. We are here to talk about some draft grades. Go through the NFC North and the AFC East, all four teams in each division, break down every single selection that all eight of those teams made,

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Friends over at Jock Market, jockmkt.com backslash PFF. Where are we starting? We starting in the NFC North? You want to do that? We are starting in the North, and we are starting with the team that kicked things off in the North in this draft with the Detroit Lions, my friend. What'd you love?

What didn't I love? Right. It's a good one. The lions out here navigating this draft. Okay. They get Aiden Hutchinson, but he's, he's more of a light than a love. And I'll get to that in a second. I loved the Jameson William pick. This is my wide receiver one in this draft. And they moved up from 32 to 12 to go get this young man and all they gave up for it was 12 46 and then they got back or no they got 12 and 46 and all they had to give up was 32 34 and 66 that's insane what are the vikings doing what are the vikings what

this is an interdivision trade in which I think my home. You got fleeced. I'm sorry, Questy. I love you. I think you're going to be a great GM. I really do. This was not a good first trade,

but it was to the benefit of the lions. Love that they were able to get so aggressive and go get a Jameson Williams to already pair with Amon Ross, St. Brown, who had a fantastic finish to last season. I also loved Pascal, the pass rusher that they got from kentucky who man i think that he is so versatile josh pascal is the

man he he has had such an up and down career at kentucky had an illness that forced him to miss so much time he was able to bounce back from it and become cancer right yes it was it wasn't it's something that he fought through and he got back on the football field it's incredible man for him to have that diagnosis and have that work ethic and get back on the field become the prospect that he did i think he's going to be a fantastic pro he has he has great versatility i believe as an inside out player he can play anywhere from the three tech to the five tech for you as an edge or an interior guy so i love the versatility that he is going to bring the detroit lions defensive line Those are the two picks for those two reasons that I love the most. What about you? Man, I really love touch for that team. Sometimes the fit really does matter so much, right? When you look at the

staying home, in a sense, getting those people in Detroit really excited about their lines. I think it's pretty cool for me. Top three player for me. So I had no problem with him going number two. Love Jameson. You nailed it, Trevor, the trade had no problem with him going number two. Love, Jameson. You nailed it, Trevor, the trade-up. And I'm going to talk more about that when we get to the Vikings. Usually in division trades, you pay a significant tax. For whatever reason, they got the sale of the century. I mean, you're talking about a pretty significant difference in terms of the value.

So it was not even. It was a great trade by Brad terms of the value. So it was not even, it was a great trade by Brad Holmes and the Lions. Here's the one I loved that I can't believe the value. Malcolm Rodriguez, a guy that went in the sixth round pick 188. I had him as my 70th ranked player in this draft. I think he's a starter at inside linebacker. I think he's great downhill. I think he's got excellent instincts. He's one of the rare linebackers in this draft that can take on contact over and over again, stack and shed, make a play.

So there were three picks that I loved in this Lions draft. I liked Josh Paschal. Like you said, I think he's going to be a very boring player for the Detroit Lions in the best way, where he's going to be able to contain. He's going to be able to stop the run. He could play five tech on early downs, three tech like you kind of said on some passing downs so that was a nice safe pick didn't love the kirby joseph value i understand the fit though they needed a cover

safety they need a guy that has range next to tracy walker on the back end i didn't value him they valued him maybe a round earlier than where i had him but the fit made a lot of sense so uh to put a bow on it from my end, I love the Lions draft and a minus. This is one of those turn the corner as a franchise kind of drafts. I know there's all the talk's going to be about Jared Goff and the quarterback situation, whether he's the future or somebody else is the future.

They have a really, really nice ground floor there that didn't exist before Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell got there. You were asking me what I loved about it. And I forgot to even read off the entire Lions draft which we're going to do at the beginning of each team I just forgot it there uh first round I'll just do that now Aiden Hutchinson Jameson Williams that's who they got there Josh Paschal they got in the second round Kirby Joseph in third as as Connor was kind of talking about there no picks in the fourth round fifth round James, the tight end from Virginia Tech. Sixth round, Malcolm Rodriguez, a guy that Connor said he really liked,

the linebacker at Oklahoma State. James Houston, the fourth, former Florida Gator, but Jackson State University edge player there. And then the last pick that they had was Chase Lucas, the cornerback out of Arizona State. So I'll just go to the picks, because we've got it broken up into three categories. If you guys listened to the last episode that we have loved, liked,

and then didn't get. So the loved picks, I said, Jameson Williams, the value they got back for that. And then where they picked Josh Paschal, I really liked. I liked Aiden Hutchinson. The reason why I don't have a love is simply because Kayvon Thibodeau is my edge one. I'm with you there.

That's the only reason why this is not a love pick. But hometown kid gets to stay in Detroit. All of the rest of it is there. I just had to make note of that. And since we have those two categories, loved and liked, they're both positive. That's why I put Hutchinson into the liked category. But I also really like James Mitchell.

Now, he was coming off a season-ending injury, but this athletic, really good pass-catching tight end, who I think we would have been talking about pretty highly in this tight end class if he didn't get hurt. So I thought he had a lot of production previously. Really nice production. So for them to get him in, where was it? What did I say?

The fifth round? What was it? Where did they get to? Yeah, fifth round. It was fifth round, right? Yeah, yeah. Fifth round pick. I really like the value there.

Love the ceiling of what he could be. The don't get for me in this category with the Lions? None. I really don't have one. I thought about the Kirby Joseph one because I saw your list as I was filling mine out. And, you know, this team just needs safeties. They really do. We talked to Jeff Rizdin during the guest mock draft series,

and he was telling us that safety could have very well been in play at 32 had the Lions stayed at 32. With those picks that were both right there, not just 32, but I guess 34 as well, he was really saying safety is something they're going to look very heavily at. So I get it after picking the obvious at number two with Aiden Hutchinson, going up to get Jameson Williams so you don't get that pick at 30-34 because you had traded it away.

For them to go get a safety in the third round, I'm okay with it, knowing what they thought of their safety room and how they needed to upgrade that. So I gave it an A as well. I gave this draft an A. It was one of my favorites, no doubt about it. Really, really good draft for the Lions. Imagine if they traded up in the third round and took malik willis that would have just been and i mean obviously malik's a bit of a wild card as a prospect but that would have been just

crazy for them but was malik still there when they picked kirby joseph no no he went 86 i believe kirby went 97 you're right you're right okay but still that would have been that would have been the one that i could have been like all right right, we could pencil into that category if he was still available. All right, Green Bay Packers, if you listened to our night one recap, you kind of heard me eviscerate them a little bit. They did a really good job after that, which I was happy to see. I didn't love anything in this draft, but I liked a lot of it. And sometimes that's okay.

Sometimes that's what you need to do. So I really liked all the offensive line picks, Trevor. I mean, Zach Tom, Sean Ryan, Rasheed Walker was one of the better value picks in the entire draft in my eyes. I'm surprised they got him. I don't understand him being in the seventh round. I talked to an offensive line coach that would have been pretty comfortable with him in the third or fourth if they needed him, but they didn't need him. Zach Tom, I think, can be a starter at center. I know they have Josh Myers there, but fourth round kind of athlete that they draft.

Once again, Sean Ryan's the kind of guy that is that tackle flex guy they always like. Green Bay drafts these guys every single year, and it seems to work out for them more than not. So I loved their offensive line draft. As you know, and I won't go too far down the road, I did not get Quay Walker as a top 25 pick. I truthfully did not get playing roulette at wide receiver. And let me clarify what I mean by that. I really like Christian Watson and the idea of what Christian Watson can be. I really like Romeo Dubs. I think these guys can be impact players. I don't know if either of them are ready to be impact players this year,

where my biggest argument with the Packers and why I gave them a B, which is a rock solid grade. I think they had a draft where they got a couple starters, a couple of role players. I didn't like the lack of aggression at the top of this draft. I thought they should have moved from either 22 or 28. I know everybody says that's not what they do. That's not what they do.

I would have went up and got Chris Alave. Obviously, they probably wanted somebody that was going to play right away, so you can't kill them too much for not going up for Jamison Williams. But I would have went up for a Chris Alave kind of player. I like Traylon Burks fit on this team a lot. I know some people did not. I don't know. It was just, I saw a lot of teams, contenders,

get really aggressive in this draft. I saw the Chiefs do it. I saw the Saints do it. I saw a lot of different teams go up and go get players. The Bills did it. I don't like Green Bay being so static on day one. And I know they made a lot of nice moves on day two, but they had a good draft.

It was a B for me. Okay. So we'll, i'll recap it quay walker the linebacker out of georgia and then devante oh yeah sorry i always forget to do that no it's okay it's all right we're just we're excited to get to it so i know that people appreciate the passion there we got quay walker and then devante wyatt in the first round. Christian Watson in the second. Sean Ryan, the offensive tackle from UCLA in the third. Romeo Dubs and Zach Tom in the fourth. We've got Kingsley Enigbare in the fifth round.

No picks in the sixth round. Tariq Carpenter, the safety from Georgia Tech in the seventh round. Jonathan Ford, defensive line from Miami. And then Rasheed Walker, the offensive tackle from Penn State. Oh, they had Samori Torre as well, the wide receiver from Nebraska. And that kind of rounded out a lot of seventh round picks for them I loved Sean Ryan Zach Tom Romeo Dubs you mentioned it there I think that them not going after offensive line until those points in the draft was a little bit of a risk but the players

that they got there worked out have a lot of versatility to them like i think that they have seen firsthand how much it matters when you have a player that gives you versatility to fill a lot of different holes in your offensive line like out elton jenkins has been able to do for them over the last couple of years now i'm not going to say that these guys are going to be as good as jenkins has because he's been fantastic but the value is certainly there of having a guy who you get to you you you truly get to say well we like him as a player let's figure out where he's best and we'll play him where he's best and if that might be in a backup role in a certain situation to start or it might be as a starter in a certain role to start like that's that is what the Packers are are allowing themselves to do I think that that's a smart way to go about offensive line play, just letting the talent rise to the top, if you will.

Romeo Dubs, I think is great as a vertical threat for them. That was his bread and butter in Nevada's offense as Carson Strong's main guy deep down the field. And so I wasn't as high on Romeo Dubs as it seems other people might have been pre-draft. Same. But for where they got him was a fifth round pick. And in an offense where Aaron Rodgers likes to chug deep i think that there is some there's some cautious optimism that this

guy could be a big difference maker for you right off the bat i said this on the pff draft show but this is a situation where you're hoping romeo d become, ideally, a Gabriel Davis type. Because Gabriel Davis had that same kind of outlook where he was simply a vertical nine-ball wide receiver coming out of UCF. That offense at UCF was simply, they're going to hike the football, Gabe Davis is going to go down the field, down the sideline, we're going to throw it to him. And that was what he was known as coming into the NFL.

And in Buffalo, he started out as that that but he's become a lot more so maybe that could be the case with romeo dubs as well i liked the davante wyatt pick given you did your you did your research on the off the field stuff because he has had off the field issues that came up during this draft process that i think are a big reason why he was available at 28 they are yep oh as long as they did their due diligence there a lot more than i have the capabilities to do sitting in this chair then i like to pick he's a very talented player was the number 10 overall player on my pff or on my big board and then look carter this feels like a hot take at this point i like christian watson like sure i think that there was reason to believe that if you're taking them at 22 or 28 for the packers this is a little

bit rich but even trading up to get them at the beginning of the second round like i'm okay with this this was always going to be their type of receiver he's a good old vikings again right guy right yeah the vikings just making are you in our you in our division? We're here to help you out. It's unheard of. I like it. Look, you know, Christian Watson needs to improve the ball skills. He does. That's the biggest question mark that goes within his game.

I think that he's also pretty green at route running just because he was not asked to do it a lot at North Dakota State. But who he is right now doesn't mean that he's always going to be like that and instead he's got a lot of traits that you want to normally bet on so heck playing with one of the best passers who's ever played the game before over the next couple years certainly is going to be as good of a teacher for his ball skills as he is ever going to get so i i still like that pick even though people didn't seem to like it quay walker uh 22

it's a little sketchy on and then i totally echo and agree with your point the lack of aggression to go get a different wide receiver i i wish was a little bit different from green bay and maybe it was right we talked about this pre-draft it's the picks that don't happen that kind of intrigued me the most maybe green bay was on the phone maybe they were just short of getting here or there you know pick 11 pick 12 to go get one of these wider series and they just came up a little bit short but if they weren't and it didn't seem like the price to move up was that high got to do it then i kind of wonder why were you sitting back why were you that comfortable letting the board fall to you when you know you needed to go out

and get an impact guy so that's that those are my total thoughts for the packers i think you gave it a b or b plus one of those two things i gave it a b yeah it was a good draft it was a really solid draft um okay so the Minnesota Vikings here. They took Louis Scene, and they traded a lot, but they took Louis Scene in the first round, the safety from Georgia. Andrew Booth in the second round, corner from Clemson. Ed Ingram in the second round, guard from LSU. Brian Asamoah, the linebacker from Oklahoma in the third round.

Caleb Evans, the corner from Missouri in the fourth round. Two fifth-round picks. Asezi Otomewu, the corner from Missouri in the fourth round, two fifth round picks, Asezi Otomewu, the Minnesota defensive lineman, Ty Chandler, the running back from UNC. That was both their fifth round picks, two sixth round picks, a lot of picks in this draft. They really wanted to go volume route in Adolfo Mensah's first draft. Vidarian Lowe, Illinois offensive tackle, and Jalen Naylor, the wide receiver from Michigan State, later in the sixth round. And then the seventh round, Nick Muse, a tight end from South Carolina.

So when you look at this one, for me, Trevor, I really want to explain myself here. Because, and I'm not going to give away the grade, but I really want to be thorough in my explanation. Because I looked at it and factored in trade values, right? Trading with division opponents a couple of times and not taxing them that you traditionally would. Um, and obviously overall impact and, and value. And I think this is the most important. I would be a fraud if I got on here and said this draft was even average in my eyes. Because if somebody went back and looked at my big board and looked at the value, they got significant negative value on almost every pick they made for me besides Louis Seen. Louis Seen was my 21st overall player.

They got him 32nd. I really liked that pick a lot. Andrew Booth was pretty close. He was 42nd. I had him 50th. After that, they were just in a different stratosphere for me than everybody else. And I'm not, we're just a show where we're going to talk about the New England Patriots. And this team was the team that was in a different stratosphere.

Ed Ingram. Wait, do you have a lower grade on the Vikings than you did the Patriots? Like significantly. Oh my gosh, you do. You animal. I know Minnesota fans are not going to like me after this, and I just want them to give me a chance here. Ed Ingram, I had 124.

They took him 59th. Asim Mo is a fine player. He's a money backer. They took him 66. They had him 105. Caleb Evans, developmental corner in my eyes. They took him 118th. They had him 195.

Autumn Ewo, 212. they took him 165th. Ty Chandler 253 they took him 169th. Vardarian Lowe developmental offensive lineman at 240 they took him 184 that one I don't mind because your developmental offensive lineman can be a big difference on the board it's just a matter of what you think of them in your scheme and then Jalen Naylor once again I don't really mind this one they took him 191 I had him 230 so I think my problem here Trevor is you moved out of significant picks a couple times and you did not really get adequate value back from your division rivals and I don't really think this team got much better in a division that you can run away from the Bears. You can run away from the Lions.

The goal should be coming out in round one and throwing your best haymaker at Green Bay, which I know is tough, but with Kirk Cousins at quarterback and the roster that you've inherited, you can do that. And I don't think this draft did that for them. I loved Louisine. I liked nothing else. I didn't get the trades at all the trade with the lions in my eyes was horrible horrible trade um and I didn't

get the value on the picks that I already explained it was a negative 404 value rankings I don't I don't know like maybe and maybe I'll look like a fool and you know I think scene's going to be a long-time starter and can be a high-end player I think Booth can get there he's got to get healthy and fix some aggressive issues but that pick was oh it was okay I don't I wasn't the biggest Andrew Booth guy in this class but I see the upside as a starting number two cornerback I I'm not convinced they got anything else from this draft or they had a million picks and I gave it a d-plus which I I know is just scald. It's a tough grade. But I gave this a D+. I don't... I understand GM's playing quantity on their first draft.

And I saw it recently here in New York. Joe Douglas did it in 2020. And he had a terrible draft. It didn't work. It doesn't... You really got to nail your picks, nail a couple of picks if you're going to go the quantity route, moving out of value spots.

And I think the Vikings got a little too cute in this draft. Yeah. I'm looking up some of the, man. Okay. So I was initially, what'd you say? I said, you feel me? Yeah. I was initially higher on this draft when I was doing the What'd you say? I said, you feel me? Yeah, I was initially higher on this draft

when I was doing the PFF recap. I think I did the same thing on the BR show, like coming in real time. I was like, oh, okay, I kind of see this. And then when we put it all together, I was like, these trades did not make a lot of sense to me. Right. I gave him a B minus, I think, on the show.

I'd give him a C minus now. I love Lewis Seaman. Oh, so you're right there with me. I gave him a D plus, you gave him a C minus. Yeah, I'd give him like a C or a C minus i think on the on the show i'd give him a c minus now i love lewis so you're right there with me i am a d plus you give him a c minus yeah i give him like a c or a c minus and i think when you look at it maybe just for the players themselves you think that lewis seems going to be a really good football player i like andrew booth a lot when he's healthy but the trade from 12 to 32 i think we have talked about, is bad. Even in a year where you were not getting as much value as you wanted, I think every team was kind of in that boat,

I still thought the deal was bad, objectively. And then I'm looking at how the draft went, and they took Andrew Booth, who I like i like andrew booth right but there are concerns about him long term with his health especially after two surgeries two core surgeries now right not good that's the only surgery i've had and coming back from it and i know andrew booth is a different athlete than me but i could not fathom getting that surgery twice so so they picked andrew booth at 42 yeah they had 34 where they traded away that pick to the green bay packers the corners that go after that pick are roger mccreary and kyler gordon so you look at andrew booth and you go okay they took Andrew Booth at number 42 that was basically the last corner that they possibly could have taken because it is a

drop after that it was a severe drop off so you had the opportunity to and look maybe they liked Andrew Booth more than the other guys sure but the long-term injury worries me. And the fact that they had the chance to basically pick Roger McCreary or Kyler Gordon as well at that top selection traded out of it. And then we're basically forced into only being able to pick Andrew Booth at 42. I, that, that I don't like either.

So I don't really, I get it. You know, PFF talks about how trading back is often better anyways because you get more darts of the dartboard and just the percentages that players are going to turn out like it just helps you when you trade back when you acquire more picks when you navigate things that way i hear it i i mean i i don't disagree with that logic but at the same time trading back and trading up also has to account for the exact players that you are moving for and that you are selected because at the end of the

day those are the guys who are going to be on the field like you are making the moves for those players so for them to trade a couple of times in the division i really didn't like that i said i now that i'm looking at it i really didn't like how they navigated going that cornerback selection at the top of the second round. I hated the value that they got moving from 12 to 32. Yeah. There's a lot that I don't like here. I didn't love this draft.

How are Vikings fans going to feel of Jameson Williams or Christian Watson run by the secondary for the next eight years? Yeah, probably not good. And your GM was like, yeah, come, come right in,

come grab them. Yeah. It felt almost, I really respect Kwesi for being above the like old NFL minds of we don't trade with division rivals. But you also need to make sure you are winning the deal when you do that. And I don't even think it was even. Right. They're calling you, you know. You're not calling them. No, it's it was even right they're calling you you know you're not calling

them no it's not even even they're calling you uh interesting i think it's an interesting draft for questy we'll see how it pans out vikings fans if we're not looking at this the right way let us know but um yeah i i don't see it here i just i just i do not see it chicago bears all right let's move on to chicago bears pulling up the bears fire away there big shooter second round because they didn't have a first round pick they go kyler gordon the cornerback out of washington they also go to kwan brisker the safety out of penn state third round valis jones jr the wide receiver from tennessee braxton jones the offensive tackle in the fifth round dominique robinson as well as in in the fifth round sixth round they got zachary thomas the offensive tackle from san diego state tristan ebner the halfback from baylor uh doug kramer the center from illinois jeteri carter

the offensive tackle from southern university elijah hicks the safety from california then trenton gill the punter at 255 at a north carolina state that's where you take a punter baby how many seven drum picks they have uh three one two three oh yeah they had three three six rounders three seven the bears had a good old party at late day three in the draft yeah that's what you want yeah all all uh all all darts are equal right all darts at the dartboard are equal okay maybe not left-handed throws what dartboard are equal. Okay, maybe not. Left-handed throws. What did you think of the Bears draft here? You know what, dude? All things considered, I didn't mind it. I didn't love it. I didn't mind it. Here's the catch 22 with the

Bears draft. It was pretty cool. It's a disaster for Justin Fields. So when you could separate those two things, you end up somewhere in the middle like I did. I love Jaquan Brisker. This is one of my favorite players in the draft. Jaquan Brisker was a really nice pick at 48. There was some value there for that spot. I loved Dominique Robinson. He was a player I valued as a top 120 player in this draft.

They got him at 174. Converted wide receiver to pass rusher. That's something you don't really hear very often. So this dude's pretty awesome, and he's a good athlete, and I really like that pick. I liked Kyler Gordon. So I love Brisker, love Robinson, liked Kyler Gordon. I really liked Vietlas Jones Jr.,

but I didn't get the pick for them at that spot. Like, it's crazy, and I've said this before. When you find a day three player, you're like, man, I really like this guy. I'm rooting for him to find the right spot on day three and go show some value. They took Valus Jones Jr. in the top 75 of the draft. I had him at 150, and he's 25 years old this month.

He's 25 years old this month. Happy birthday, Valus Jones. Yeah, happy birthday, Valus Jones Jr. This is nothing against you, because I really, really like you as a player and think you have more upside at receiver when you've been a co-SEC Special Teams Player of the Year guy with Jameson Williams this year.

And then I didn't really get the developmental offensive line strategy for an offensive line that's not really good right now. It was like, oh, let's take a million developmental offensive linemen and see how this goes. Braxton Jones developed big time developmental guy Zachary Thomas um kind of the opposite I don't really see the upside there Doug Kramer Jatire Carter they just they just like you said all these left-handed darts Trevor on the offensive line this offensive line needs to be better in mandatory minicamp in June not three years from

now so did not like this draft for Justin Fields. I think it set up Justin Fields to fail this year, and I hope he can, you know, overcome the lack of talent around him overall. But I loved what it did for Ibraflu's defense. It was a B minus. I really, it's funny to like so many of the picks, but when you look at the big picture,

you just have some concerns. You know, I liked the braxton jones pick i really do he had a 93.3 overall grade for us pff obviously going up against lesser competition at southern but obviously dominated it looks like he moves really well super long wingspan very high ceiling for this guy needs to get a little bit stronger for sure but i so i i gotta say that like i love that pick i think it's a great pick for the chicago bears it's a really good investment there i also like dominic robinson those two guys that that i love that i love their selection there it gets a little bit tricky as we as we kind of get into what i didn't like i liked kyler gordon and jaquan briskier for the reasons

that you named as individual football players they're going to be good players they're going to make this defense awesome they're going to be they're going to be good players? They are going to make this defense awesome. They are going to increase the coverage potential of this team and what they're able to do in the secondary a lot. Pairing Eddie Jackson with a guy like Jaquan Brisker is going to be money. Pairing Jalen Johnson with a guy like Kyler Gordon is going to be money. All of a sudden, you've got a really nice secondary there in Chicago, and I'm a big fan of those players individually.

But you get to the don't get part of my analysis here. Lack of urgency for Justin Fields, man. I would have loved the Braxton Jones pick just as much if they would have invested offensive line a little bit earlier, right, with one of those first two picks. Same thing at wide receiver, man. Valus Jones Jr. I don't have to look at Valus Jones Jr.

and think that's supposed to be the star wide receiver that you gotice jones jr i don't have to look at valis jones jr and think that's supposed to be the star wide receiver that you got out of this draft class they lose alan robinson and you replace him with valis jones jr in the third round that's what i have as the takeaway now for the chicago bears offseason you know what the tough one was don't love it i think the tough one for me is taking valis jones who i really think would have made it outside the top 100 at 71 and passing on Bernard Raymond in that spot. Well, the Bernard Raymond is going to be, I think, when people, as we all love to do, play the game where you just look back on draft classes

and self-deprecate yourself and think what could have been for your team, especially recently over the next couple of months this summer. The Bernard Raymond pick being so late is going to be in a lot of people's, well, they could have had Bernard Raymond. You're right. You're right. But I do believe that the Chicago Bears could have had Bernard Raymond. The Bears really needed Bernard Raymond.

And once again, I will go down on the hill that Vilas Jones was not going to be a top 100 pick. But if you love the guy, it's not a bad draft. Not a bad draft. Like, they've got good players. I think the play, it's just, it's such an interesting draft because I think the players are good. But I have to look at

Valus Jones Jr. I mean, you look at what the Chicago Bears did in free agency. They signed Echomenes St. Brown to a one-year deal and Byron Pringle to a one-year deal. I mean, come on, dude.

That's like player 47 on your roster. And now I have to look at valish jones jr as if he is the guy that is 100 the wide receiver that they're bringing in to really help justin fields and i don't like him for that role i wish they would have just picked another receiver a little bit higher and you could appropriately play and emphasize and get the most out of um valis but again i i don't i don't mean to crap on the players they're good players I just don't I didn't get the overall emphasis for fields unless you are truly looking down the road 2023 free agency period 2023 NFL draft and saying to yourself we are going so far all in we already

know that our salary cap is going to be right for it our draft picks are going to be right for it and at that point we're going to surround justin fields from what he needs for those last two years in his contract to show us is he our franchise quarterback but even then man you're playing with fire on the timeline you're written i'm just you're wasting precious time on the rookie deal but maybe they don't love fields. I don't know. I don't know.

Right. It's either that, or, you know, you have to worry about him. His development being ruined by the end of next year. Right. By the offensive line. Yeah. A guy that's been hurt a lot. Let's call it what it is.

He got hurt in college. He got hurt in his rookie season. It's, it's fascinating to me. And I guess this regime is not really in a hurry. You know, they're not in a hurry is what it is. They'd rather just get good players right now. And it's tricky. I can applaud that because if I put myself in the chair,

I don't think it's as easy as people think sometimes where you're working with the guy that you didn't draft. Are you going to tie your entire career to that, whether that's right or wrong? You might just rather take good players your first year and then worry about all the rest later. And we've seen the Lions kind of operate that way. And we really like what the Lions did this year.

I think that they definitely believe that they're multi-year rebuild. I mean, it's just you're, I don't want to say backing yourself into a corner, but you've got to nail it next offseason. That's all I'm saying. You've really got to nail the offensive side of the the next offseason that's all i'm saying you really got to nail the offensive side of the ball next offseason for sure uh we're gonna pop over to the afc east we're gonna get to hunter's beloved new york jets and uh the rest of that division but before we do that introducing our newest sponsor sunday does your lawn have weeds bear patches pet spots well sunday

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We might as well start with the New York Jets. At number four overall, they took a mod garner the quarterback from cincinnati garrett wilson the wide shooter from ohio state at number 10 jermaine johnson at 26 the edge rusher from florida state second round breeze hall halfback from iowa state wonder if we're gonna talk about that a lot uh jeremy rucker in the third round the tight end from ohio state not max mitchell the offensive tackle from louisiana in the third round, the tight end from Ohio State. Probably not. Max Mitchell, the offensive tackle from Louisiana in the fourth round. Also, Michael Clemens, the addresser from Texas A&M. Fifth round, sixth round, seventh round, bunch of squat.

Nada. Nothing. Done. Got out early. Headed to the bars to celebrate what was an incredible draft. Connor, what did you love about it? A lot. I loved the first round and the aggressive nature of it.

I thought that, you know, you obviously get a player that was one of the best in this class in sauce. You got a guy that I thought was the best wide receiver in Garrett Wilson. And then you saw a player that they loved, a top 10 guy in Jermaine Johnson, falling, falling, falling. And you got back in the round and you didn't get completely robbed to get back in the round and you got them. So you solved three mammoth needs, corner wide receiver and pass rusher in the first round. And I liked how aggressive they were, not just in the first round. Maybe I'm crazy. I liked Brees Hall a lot. I liked Brees Hall a real lot. And as the 30th player in this draft. They took him 36th.

I'll say this as somebody who has done way too much Jets content for way too long. The Jets running back room outside of Michael Carter kind of sucked. I'm sorry, but Tevin Coleman's a nice player. He's hurt every year. He's hurt every year. And it's not a matter of if, it's when all the time. Ty Johnson dropped every single outlet that Zach Wilson threw him last year, and it drove everybody insane. And then it got into the – and plug your ears here, Trevor. It got to the point where they had to play LaMichael Piran sometimes, and it just didn't work very well.

Good. And that wasn't to say Trevor loved LaMichael Piran. Just a little it didn't work very well good um and and that that wasn't say Trevor loved LaMichael Piran just a little shout out that he's a gator um so don't don't come at Trevor's throat thinking he's LaMichael Piran's number one fan so I own it I own his signed rookie card I'm invested oh man I got some bad ones um so it was a big need because when Michael Carter got the chance to be the lead back last year for a team that wants to run the heck out of the football, they have a first round guard and a $13 million guard. He got hurt. He got hurt. He wasn't the lead back in college and he's not

going to be the lead back with the Jets. He's a really nice player. That's going to be better as the number two. And they got a dude that I thought was far and away the best running back in this draft. I think he catches the ball. He's got breakaway speed. He could break tackles. He could do everything. He could really do everything. And he plays hard, underclassman, team captain. So I don't know when we got to this point. The war on running backs has gone way, way, way, way, way too far. And I like Brees Hall and think he's going to be a really, really good player for a run-heavy football team. The only thing I didn't get what the Jets was, and it's why it's not an A+, it was just an A for me, I didn't like the Michael Clemens pick. I don't traditionally value guys in the fourth round that are older and have bad character, and hopefully he proves

this all wrong and matures and takes care of all those things. The film's pretty good, honestly. He knows how to use his length. He's a tough guy on the edge. He can play the run. He's got some pass rush juice, but I didn't think the Jets needed another rusher. I didn't think they needed to take, this was a reach in my eyes. It was the anti-Jeremy Rucker pick. The Rucker pick was like a 50 plus value to me. That was awesome. Yeah, baby. Yeah. But this one to me, this was a, I'll say it. I thought it was a really bad pick. So, so it was a the jets had an awesome draft it feels good to say that and if zach wilson can take any kind of step forward it can it can be a turning point for them to be finally maybe competitive again dude i i there's no way i could give this draft anything

other than an a uh the things i loved about it all of it the things i liked about it all of it i mean the the only way this draft could have possibly gotten better for me um in my player evaluation is if at four they picked derrick stingley which they didn't have the chance to stingley was off the board and if they picked drake london at 10 which they didn't have the chance to because they liked both of those guys a lot right and so like the only way this draft gets better for me is if they're able uh to do those things i i guess i should also throw in the fact that if they would have picked george karloff this instead of jermaine johnson because i had george karloff just ranked higher but like it's we're splitting hairs at that point you and i talked about it in our favorite drafts episode on monday that the thing that i like the most about what the Jets did is I think they took a look at how the first

three picks went did a really great job of evaluating the intel that they had on the rest of the league and picked accordingly because right on at number four overall Kevon Thibodeau was still on the board right you could have gone with a player like that you could have gone with that pass rusher where they picked the pass rusher at the back end of the first round instead. But I think that they looked at this situation and they said, hmm, Derek Stingley just went off at three. We don't pick again until 10. The Giants are probably going to take Sauce at either five or seven.

Spot on. We all knew that they all going to they all really like sauce garner especially if the jets would have taken let's say cave on tibeto then i think the giants are for sure then at that point taking sauce garner so if they do that then there's not really a corner that they would reach on at number 10 that That one's probably going to be a wide receiver anyways, and they're going to like where they were sitting at wide receiver to take a wide receiver at number 10. So if you would have taken a pass rusher at 4 and a wide receiver at 10,

then all of a sudden you would have been sitting there at number 32 or 34. No, where were they picking? They were picking 35 and they moved to 26 35 35 the the corners that you would have had the chance to take it 35 would have just right would have just been kyler gordon and andrew booth at that point so to me they did a great job looking at how deep this edge rush class was thinking george carloftis david ojabo jermaine johnson are probably all going to fall. Arnold DeBacchetti, Brian Moffay, you're 100% right. They were in the perfect

situation because they drafted sauce at four to get the wide receiver they wanted at 10 and then to get flexible with how aggressive they were going to be to go up and get an edge rusher somewhere at the back end of the first round or even beginning of the second round if they stand if they stood at number 35. So that's why I love this draft, beyond just the players. And a lot of people go, oh, it's easy to love a draft because they had three first-round picks.

I don't understand that. What are the teams that have had first-round picks over the last couple of years and they sucked? They've made terrible choices. Shout out Dave Gettleman. But okay, so... The Raiders went through it too. Wow.

The Dolphins went through it, too. Austin Jackson and Noah Igbenogany. These are really good points. Noah's team does a good job with it. These are really good points. These are really good points. I still think they navigated the right way, even with having the three first-round picks.

I really do. So, that was something that I really enjoyed about their draft. The Brees Hall pick. Brees Hall's a good football player, man. They want to run the ball more. They don't have an RB1. They were eventually, to complete this offense, going to pick a running back decently high

or sign a running back for a decent amount of chunk of change on a second contract. You would rather pick a running back at the top of the second round probably than sign him. If you were trying to get RB1 value out of him, and I don't know, maybe that's me talking off the top of my head. Maybe I don't know the numbers correctly, but they needed a good football player to be RB1 for them.

I think Breece Hall is fantastic in a one-cut, zone-blocking scheme, but I also think that he's plenty patient enough for you to have any kind of blocking scheme in front of him, and he's going to perform well. He's got soft hands. He can play on all three downs if you want. I think it was a good pick for him love the jeremy rucker pick as well um he was almost my tight end one at some point i was going through it and i was like man i love what this dude could be i love the fact that he's jersey dude staying in jersey so uh max mitchell's another player that you and i talked about a lot during the swing tackle and i got one that i liked that I really liked borderline first round pick around the senior bowl.

Now the senior bowl kind of changed my mind about it. It was like, okay, this guy's not as dominant or as advanced as I thought he would have been, but love the football player, getting him in the fourth round. You mentioned his swing tackle there. I give this draft and a for sure. Yeah. We were both really high on this draft and it's going to be fun to see how it shakes out because all these guys are going to play. Honestly, Garrett Wilson is going to be their number two receiver. Probably we'll see how, you know, Corey Davis comes back

healthy, but I have a minimum number three. Jermaine Johnson's going to probably get about 60% of the snaps because they rotate a lot on the D line. It's also going to be their number one corner. Brees Hall is going to be their number one running back. Jeremy Ruckert's behind Uzama and Tyler Conklin, but he's going to get on the field a lot. And Max Mitchell is one more, you know, fan or backed

an injury away from being on the field. So, yeah, this was a draft that you're going to get hopefully some early results. The Buffalo Bills were the next team on the list for us.

And they traded up for Kyrie Elman in the first round pick 23 they got james cook in the second round pick 63 throw bernard the linebacker from baylor in the third round no fourth rounder here in the fifth round khalil shakur a player that trevor and i definitely liked in that spot in the fifth round wide receiver from boise state matt orisa the god god in the sixth round shockingly not one of the first couple of special teams players taken. Christian Benford, defensive back from Villanova in the sixth round.

Another sixth round pick, Luke Tenetta, offensive lineman from Virginia Tech. And then their seventh round pick was Balan Specter, linebacker from Clemson. All right. Brandon Bean, traditionally a very, very good team builder and drafter. I'll go through mine pretty quickly here, Trevor, and then I'll throw to you. Didn't love anything, and that's okay because I liked a lot. I really liked Kier Elam on this team. I think he's going to develop there. And I really, really like the fit of James Cook and Khalil Shakur in their offense. I think they have defined roles.

Devin Singletary's a year away from free agency. I think James Cook's going to be their pass-catching kind of back and change of pace kind of back. I think Khalil Shakur can fit into that gadget player role for them where you find ways to get the ball in his hands. And I thought Ariza was a huge need. They had huge punting problems last year, and he was my highest rated specialist

by a big, big margin. I don't know why he wasn't one of the top specialists taken. Great for the Bills. They got great value here, getting him in the sixth round. I thought he was going to be a fourth round pick in this draft. The only thing I didn't get was Bernard that early. I just didn't value him that way. I had him

as player 204. He's a money backer. He's a sub package player, probably a special teams player. They took him in the top 100, so didn't really get that way. I had him as player 204. He's a money backer. He's a sub package player, probably a special teams player. They took him in the top 100. So didn't really get that one B plus for the Bills. Big fan of Brandon Bean. Big fan of what the Bills got going this year. And there is a reason why they are the current Super Bowl favorite, Trevor. Yeah, look, a lot of our points are very the same here.

I have him as a B plus grade as well. The only pick that I didn't get was maybe Bernard that early, as as you mentioned it was i thought it was a little bit of a reach for what they were going for there i felt like they could have waited even for that kind of that position that they were trying to build and strengthen in their roster as more of a rotational or backup guy maybe they see him as a lot more but just for where he was picked that one was one that i kind of didn't get i'll i'll one up you a little bit. I loved them getting Kier Elam in the first round, and not just because he's a University of Florida guy, but I love the fact that they finally really went out

and invested in a CB2. That is what I love the most about it. Not only do I think that Kier Elam is a damn good football player, I think he can play that highest level, most aggressive cornerback coverage that you're looking for, that press man coverage ability. I think he could be a good off-zone coverage corner as well. And just the fact that he gets to be a CB2 next to Tredavious White

when he's fully healthy tells you that you've got those two guys, you've got decent backups now at the cornerback position, and you've got two of the best safeties in the game when they're playing back there. And so all of a sudden, this Buffalo B is awesome so i absolutely look at them playing the jets and the dolphins i know people will laugh when that comes out of their mouth but oh it's gonna matter man tyree kill jaylen waddle garrett wilson elijah moore like it you're gonna need to be a little deep at corner and the bills who are classic always playing a little bit of chess while a lot of theirs are playing checkers.

And, of course, the Bills are seeing the Chiefs, Bengals, in the playoffs and things like that. So, yeah, I'm with you, Trev. And then, liked James Cook and Kolo Shakir. I think they're great players. I think Shakir gets to step in right where Cole Beasley, his spot is open now, and I think that he's going to be able to step in right away

and play really well. I think he's got a natural feel for when he's got those two-way goes in the slot uses space to his advantage i think he can manipulate coverage and manipulate the guys that are covering him he's very smart in his route running in that regard i think it's going to be huge for the bills he's gonna be a great player for him and the james cook the soft hands the great route running the explosiveness that comes with them uh just for for those reasons echoing a lot of what you already said for those guys. It's the reason why I definitely like the Bills a lot.

New England Patriots, it's time. It's time to get to it. Well, shoot, you didn't even. I was going to say this. I feel like Teflon for this one because this was way better than the Vikings. And I know people are going to think I'm literally a lunatic, but I don't care.

I sometimes think you're literally a lunatic, but I love you. That's why you're my podcast partner. At 29 in the first round, we've got Cole Strange. And as Les Snead would say, Tennessee Chattanooga in the first round. He was jacked up. He was jacked up about it. Second round, Tyquan Thornton, the wide receiver out of Baylor, the speedster.

Third round, Marcus Jones, the cornerback out of Houston. Round four, we've got Jack Jones, the cornerback at Arizona State. We also had Pierre Strong, the halfback from South Dakota State, and Bailey Zappi, the quarterback from Western Kentucky. Nobody in the fifth round, but sixth round, we got Kevin Harris, the halfback from South Carolina. Sam Edwards, the edge rusher from Northwest Missouri State. Jason Hines, the offensive guard from LSU.

And then we got Andrew Stubert in the seventh round to round things out, the offensive guard from LSU. Then we got Andrew Stubert in the seventh round to round things out. The offensive tackle from Michigan. How do we feel about it, Connor? You might be the highest in America on the Patriots draft, so let's hear it. I did not like this draft. The value situation was actually pretty similar to the Vikings. The reason why they got a higher grade or the lack of value, I should say, is because of the trade situation with Minnesota that I did not like. So here's the deal, Trevor. They probably took a third-round player in the first round in Cole Strange. They took a day-three guy in Tyquan Thornton in the top 50.

I really like Marcus Jones a lot. He's one of the best return men I've ever scouted, and I think he's going to be a good slot that could take away the football. The Jack Jones pick I don't get at all in the top of the fourth round. I really like Pierre Strong for them. I was high on Pierre Strong. I had him as player 129. They took him 127.

So that, to me, checked out for a team that wants to run the football a lot. I mean, when you look at Billy Zappi, it's their kind of guy, right? Sam Howell is not the kind of fit they were looking for. Zappi is the kind of player that they want to function behind Mac Jones in that offense. Kevin Harris has some ability as a power back. I did think it was a little early to go running back again. One of my favorite pick, I guess, for them was actually Andrew Stuber. They got him 245 in the seventh round. I had him as a top 200 player. I really liked him. He's a big bodied pass protector at tackle,

at right tackle that was really reliable on the right side of Michigan's offensive line. And they like these hulking right tackles. Them and the Ravens, New England really likes that kind of right tackle. They're not worried about you having the lightest feet, but they just want to make sure you're a big monster that it's hard for pass rushers to get around to keep the quarterback upright and move people a little bit in the run game. So while they really got no value on any

picks besides Stuber and Strong, I kind of see them actually gathering pieces. I wish they were a little bit more aggressive. The Taekwon Thor in over that run of wide receivers is something that for good or bad reasons we're going to talk about for a long time and i'm talking about sky more george pickens that kind of situation uh i think once again there's so many players that would have taken over jack jones in that spot it was not a great draft it wasn't a good draft it wasn't a catastrophic draft it's's a classic bill. I got a piece at center. You know, what's going to make or break this draft Trevor, if Taekwon Thornton is much better than they think he is compared to everyone else. And I don't know if I fully believe in that. So for me, uh, it was a C plus it's not a dud. They're going to probably walk out of this draft

and they got two or three players, just a matter of how good can they really be. And I kind of am a little luke warmer down on the upside and the value kind of hurt, but I know you have much stronger feelings on this draft than me. So please have the floor. Yeah. You said that this draft wasn't a dud for you. Well, I gave it a D for done.

Yeah. It's the lowest grade we've had on the show. No question. No question about it. I just, I hated how this was prioritized. And again again you know you you mentioned the fact that they've got some players who could be good for them marcus jones

i'd like i think he'd be a great slot defender in the nfl again he's a guy who's got good ball skills he's small he is a small dude comes in a compact size but i think he's bigger than what his size is we say fun sized uh sure yeah yeah no we can yeah we can do that we are very appropriate on the stock exchange yeah fun for the sex addicts fun style yeah we can do that we are very appropriate on the stock exchange yeah fun for the sex addicts fun start yeah but you know that word that works for me no yeah so we'll give you good special teams value as well i think the patriots definitely value that a good amount coles range is is going to be good like i think he's going to be a good football i think he's going to be okay i think i think i have some concerns about that face mask. Have you seen that face mask?

Yeah. Isn't it like an old school one? He looks like he's an extra in the movie The Blind Side. Okay. No. I mean, I'm serious. Now I have to look at it. Like he's one of the teammates.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of Michael Orr. Right. This is the old school face mask. Yes. With the bar down the middle. Yeah. Why is is he doing that it's his sixth year in college didn't somebody by now be nice enough to tell you not to do that dude he's a throwback player my bill loves bro he looks like a long snapper no i'm actually i'm up in the grade i'm up in the grade to a d plus all right

all right i'm up in the grade hold on can we backtrack here you talked about less need what the hell was that laugh from sean mcveigh it looked like they brain chipped him did you see this i clipped it out i was clipped it so i was so i was so excited for this i'm gonna use it 45 times in the next calendar year it's like literally like they made a wax figure of sean mcveigh and then put a robot brain in it. They were like, all right, laugh, initiation, laugh button. He kept going and going. He was looking around and laughing like a Westworld robot. Holy shoot,

man, that was crazy. There's a little bit of nightmare fuel for him there. I think he was trying to laugh to hide what he actually thought about Colestrange going 29 overall. He's like, this could go viral don't do it don't do it i think i think cole strange is gonna be a good football player especially for the patriots i think he's gonna develop well he's gonna play well the thing is you didn't have to pick him at 29 i really no no nobody was doing that the problem with this

whole draft is the intel the intel was shit if you ask me me i'm so happy you curse before me on a pod for like it was dude it was bad what are you doing picking coltrane to 29 for what are you doing picking tyquan thornton 54 what are we doing just making picks again i go back to i've said it a million times already people probably sick of hearing me say it no the patriots board was to 18 players long 18 i think it was 18 players long and they said to themselves as everybody gets picked we're gonna cross them off the list and then whoever is the highest we're gonna pick them there that corn thorn would have been available in like the third or fourth round man you took a bit 50 close range probably would have been available in the third round for you to

take third round he took a 29 why are you doing doing that? And even if it wasn't that bad. Even if it was like. Okay. Some team might have taken him at like the late second. Trade down. Bill. Trade down. Who's in the war room and goes.

Oh my God. We got sniped for Cole Strange. Right. Right. I think so many more war rooms are having the reaction that the Los Angeles Rams did. Oh yeah. They watched this film thinking he was going to be available at 104. So maybe he might not have been available at 104,

but if he would have been available at 74, trade down. Bill, come on my guy. Yeah. It's like their phone lines went out. In the quarantine draft, bring him back into the war room.

Yeah, bring back the dog. Bring back the dog, Bill. So that was my thing like i think that marcus jones can work out i think cole strange can work out i think taekwon thornton can have a role on this team but i just felt like every player they drafted outside of marcus jones who i think was kind of close to value they overdrafted almost all of these guys by a round that's being

cole strange taekwon thornton jack jones for sure i mean taking two running backs when you already had damian harrison remandre stevenson like my guy didn't it kind of feel like the taekwon thornton pick they had like their three they printed out like the cowboys did their big board and somebody somebody mixed up the pages where like page four was in the spot of page two so when john mechi went they're like oh crap that was the last wide receiver on page one they turned the page and it was like oh taekwon thornton's next and it's like what no this is page four don't send in the pick don't send in the pick and they did so somebody somebody tried to clear up and enhance the Cowboys board.

Did you see that? I read the Athletic article on it. They did it. Okay. Kayvon Thibodeau, number one player. Kayvon at one, Evan Neal at two, Hutchinson three. Garrett Wilson. No Trevor Penning.

Garrett Wilson at four. Yeah. I mean, come on. They love CD. Garrett's not that different. It's very Cowboys. I guess. You got Gardner at five, Stingley at six, Walker at seven,

Kyle Hamilton eight, Icky at nine, Drake London at ten, Jordan Davis at 11, Charles Cross at 12, Louis Scene at 13, Jameson Williams at 14. They passed on Louis Scene. So it goes to show you they thought he was an awesome player and they do not care about safeties in the first round. I did the same thing. I was like, oh, crap, loved lewis scene and then i went back to the draft and like no they didn't care right right okay i'll close this i'll close the patriots out on this

because i think it's not being talked about enough although i just said it again like jack jones for me was a top 300 player 293 they took him at 121 like you took 170 you said top 300 like it was a compliment exactly listen man look technically Aiden Hutchinson was also a top three yeah exactly bro they took a 170 pound corner yeah man at 121 I just it was a lot of weird it was very weird draft Peyton very weird Bill does his own thing and he does and it's worked but will it work without Tom Brady he's great head coach of all worked, but will it work without Tom Brady? He's Gray's head coach of all time. Yes, but will it work without Tom Brady?

Listen. TBD. Last words that are going to come out of my mouth is that Bill Belichick's the Gray's head coach of all time. TBD. To be determined. Tom Brady. Nothing.

All right, Bill. Dolphins. Hibiculosis. Dolphins. Rest in peace, Arthur Morgan. All right, Dolphins. Not a lot of picks Morgan. All right, Dolphins. Not a lot of picks, right? Not a lot of picks.

Not a lot of picks, but they got Tyreek Hill, so the fans don't care probably that much. Interesting draft for me that they did not pick until 102. Not very common in this era to not be picking until the outside of the top 100. Them and the Rams both did that in this era to not be picking until the outs the outside the top 100 them and the rams both did that in this draft they did really well with their with their only day two pick and their uh top of day three pick they got channing tindall who i valued at 82 they got him at 102 and they got eric ezu khanma who i valued at 101 and they got him at 125 a jump ball receiver he was like really the the poor man's Drake London.

If you loved that kind of player and you knew you weren't going to take one in the first two rounds, you'd move on to Eric Izukanma, who had awful quarterback play at Texas Tech. He went through a million different quarterbacks. He made a lot of plays on the ball. I was really, really impressed with his tape. Really, really liked it. As the sirens go by in Hoboken, they never stop.

Eric, he's beautiful Hoboken. Yeah, yeah liked it. As the sirens go by in Hoboken, they never stop. Eric, beautiful Hoboken. Yeah, yeah. We're just firing on all cylinders here. So yeah, Dolphins, not a lot of picks, but I think Tindall. It's funny. I compared Tindall to Jerome Baker, who they have. So they like that kind of player, the defensive staff. Izu Kanma, I compared to Devante Parker, who they traded.

So it was kind of a funny. It was actually like a really funny draft for me with the Dolphins, but not a lot of picks. Didn't care about the two seventh rounders. Did not have them on my top 300. I gave it a B. So the Dolphins, they made the most of what they had.

And I was actually pretty impressed. But I'll tell you, Trevor, now that they could have fixed it with those two picks, I am very, very concerned about this offensive line in front of Tua once again. Yeah.

Even after adding Teron Armstead. Right. And I kind of looked at it and I was like, damn, I want to give this a lower grade because they didn't really address the offensive line in front of Tua once again. Yeah. Even after adding Teron Armstead. Right, and I kind of looked at it and I was like, damn, I want to give this a lower grade because they didn't really address the offensive line, but... How could they? Right, I mean, like, they signed Teron Armstead. They signed...

I mean, really, these are the teams that were thinking they were getting Cole Strange. I'm serious. Like, hey, we kind of like this guy. We'll get him at 102. Psych, night one they signed thron armstead they have connor williams now from dallas they got michael deter they have robert hunt they've got liam eikenberg and then they've got they've got austin jackson as well

who not good right i mean they have solomon kinley i'm gonna give him a shout out you're gonna say not good again no he's fine okay there we go all right he's not even projected to start well so i think they've got the thing with with miami is mcdaniel's a rocket scientist you have to you certainly have to to some degree do what the philadelphia eagles are doing like with wide receiver and just saying like uh hey we drafted guys they were bad we're drafting more guys or we're getting more wide receivers in but the dolphins are kind of in this spot where they invested all this money into ron armstead the guys they drafted kind of just have to pan out like like these guys just have to develop and if they're chris

career's picks you are right certainly you you got to hit the reset button for sure next year but i can understand why they didn't necessarily go offensive line or force it at 103 with their first selection of the draft linebackers really a big need for them as well they needed to get some speed there i like the fact that they got chaney tindall who brings them just that yes i like cameron good as well i think he's a high upside guy seventh round pick but um i think i gotta really dive into him i think he's got good athleticism to him you know he's i think he's an outside linebacker type of guy but you know he'll be he'll be good in their in their multiple front defense so i i i gave it a b b b plus something like that i really

draft all things considered you're right i really can't hate on it no all things considered they were fine um once again they're just not really working with much draft capital because they made a huge trade for one of the best offensive players in the NFL. To be fair to them, they knew that when you have all that lack of capital, that you have to go patron Armstead because you could not go in that offensive line without that kind of building block. The Dolphins have had a nice offseason. It's the old classic. I'm so sick of this because I hear it when I do all the Jets

content, and I agree. It's like, oh, well, it's all, it depends what Zach Wilson does. It all depends what Tua does. It's the league. It depends what the quarterbacks do, but at least give them a shot, and the Dolphins have absolutely, with McDaniel, who in my opinion is a top four offensive mind in the NFL,

and we'll see, you know, if that defense can continue on without Flores, but a lot of his the NFL. And we'll see, you know, if that defense can continue on without Flores, but a lot of his staff leftover, we'll see what they could do. They're going to be a tough out. I'll say that. All right,

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