NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 62. Summer Scouting: Top 5 OT & IOLs for 2023 NFL Draft

Episode Date: June 30, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers continue their summer scouting journey with the big boys on the offensive line The two give you their preseason Top 5 OTs  AND IOLs for the 2023 NFL Draft with background info, PFF stats and film notes for each. Plus talk plenty of other offensive linemen in the class who are just outside their Top 5s going into the season.

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. In this episode, we are getting to the big boys all in the trenches. It's summer scouting, and it's the offensive line position. Normally, we would probably just give you our top five offensive tackles. You know, talk about some strengths and weaknesses, some guys in that order.

But today, just because we love you guys, we're doubling it up. We're going interior offensive line as well. So it is our top five. Starting at number five, we're going to go in descending order all the way up to who our number one offensive tackle is. And then we're going to do the same thing with interior offensive linemen as well. We are going to wrap up the offensive side of summer scouting the best way we can. It's going to be exciting. It's going to wrap up the offensive side of summer scouting the

best way we can. It's going to be exciting. It's going to be a little bit longer of an episode. I hope you guys are ready for it. I'm Trevor. That's Connor. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That's Connor Rogers. And folks, it is Offensive Line Week. It's time for the big boys. I'm excited about this one. I'm excited about a lot of scumber scouting.

But we have a jam-packed show for you today because we're not just doing offensive tackles. We're doing everybody. We're ranking the offensive tackles and we are ranking the interior offensive linemen five for each. So you got to keep up, all right? We hit you with quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers. We got you guys ready.

The stamina is there. You're in shape. Now we're hitting you with two back-to-backs, five and five. Connor, are you ready for this jam-packed episode, my friend? I'm ready to go. This is obviously now we're officially in the weeds of summer scouting. Quarterbacks, anybody could talk about them. I think every person in the

country that covers football knows about Bryce and CJ by now. And even Tyler Van Dyke's been a big name out there. Running backs, you've got a star in Bijan Robinson. Wide receivers, we see these guys play because they produce as sophomores. Tight end class was actually a lot of fun. I saw a lot of people on both sides of our rankings in the comments on PFF as well.

A lot of people having fun with the Meyer versus Gilbert debate. Now we get into the nitty gritty. Yep, this is where it is. This is where football starts is what they say up front in the trenches. And we're going to kind of give you the same format again going from five to one if you're new to the show we'll start with offensive tackle so we won't we won't like do them at the same time we'll start first half of the show we'll go offensive tackle ranking second half of the show we'll go interior offensive lineman and interior offensive lineman i combine

centers and guards connor you separate them a little bit more i think you keep them a little bit more pure like who you think is gonna be bit more. I think you keep them a little bit more pure, like who you think is going to be a center, who you think is going to be a guard. So we can obviously dive into all of that once we get to the interior offensive line rankings. But offensive tackles, let's just start right off the bat. Your number five offensive tackle in college football right now

for the 2023 NFL draft, who is it? It is Javon Foster from Missouri, a guy that was a starter at Foster this high okay well let's start with a caveat of this one I could there was about five guys I could have put at this spot pretty comfortably because this doesn't look like a very deep tackle class right now maybe that changes after the season. We have been spoiled over the last couple years of good offensive line classes. Very, yes.

I think the tides are turning. That is not to say this is a bad draft. I actually think getting now through all of the offensive positions of summer scouting, this could be a really good draft. The offensive line class, the best way to put it, is not established right now. And that left the number five spot kind of wide open for a guy that has a lot of work to do in his game still. But I think when he finally got the chance, Foster, to star at Missouri last year as a left tackle, because he's already a redshirt senior right now. So he had to wait a couple years.

Been a while for him. Yeah, he had to wait a couple of years. It's been a while for him. Yeah, he had to wait a couple of years. First year starter in 2021, all 13 games at left tackle. Easy mover in the run game with smart angles to his assignments. And then you kind of get right into the things that I'm concerned about. So that's scouting, folks. I mean, somebody needs to be in the fifth spot. Foster, it's a good sign for him that he is. But I really wrote down a couple of good things and then got right into needs to be careful giving

the open doorway to inside move and pass pro can get caught ducking his head in pass pro needs to improve his overall core strength when you start you know playing like that ducking your head a little bit it's the lack of overall confidence in that core strength to stay upright and then needs to limit penalties he had four in 2021 That's a pretty high mark compared to the rest of the guys we're going to talk about today. So Foster, for me, right now, if I was writing a real NFL scouting report, is somebody I would project as potentially a swing tackle

at the next level, a guy that is depth for you. I don't project him as a surefire starter. I was telling Trevor before the show started, outside of the top two or three guys on each list, tackles and interior offensive line, I wouldn't have these guys even in the second round right now. So there's a lot of developing here. But with Foster, I saw things that I really liked.

He's 6'5", 320. He's got a thick frame. I thought he held his own in the SEC last year as a first-year starter. There was never a time where I'm like, man, he's getting his ass kicked right now on a program that doesn't go out there and beat everyone up all the time. I thought he held his own, but there are plenty of things to clean up. So Foster came in as my fifth tackle. On a bit of a debate between guys, like, well, I won't get into it

because I don't want to give away one through four. We'll finish with that. But there was four guys that pretty much had a shot at this ranking. That's how open it was before we jump into a different tier. Okay, see, now I'm looking forward to when we get past our one through five because I want to hear. I think I can actually, everybody listening, we could probably figure out who those four guys are going to be.

Yeah, I don't think it's really that much of a secret. We have an idea. No, I'm talking about the guys that you had tied for fifth, like the guys that did make the list. I'm intrigued on that because I know you're going to name the guys that are in front of them. It sounds like – see, I had Foster much lower. I had – well, much lower.

I didn't have him that much lower. Where did you have him? How much lower can you get? No, I have him eighth. So I have him eighth for me, which I guess going off of what you said where it's kind of you've got four guys that could have all been competing for number five. That's not really that low. And none of them I thought were,

I'm like, this guy's a starter at the NFL level right now. Okay, so you say that and I do agree with you, but it sounds like I'm a little bit higher on the offensive tackle class than you are. And I'm interested to see kind of what you think of how I'm viewing some of these players and whether or not even the guys that i make here the fringe of my top five are in your top five what you believe in them so like i said i had foster at eight and i agree with a lot of what you said it's just a little bit it's a little bit concerning that obviously it

took him this long to be a starter you don't want to hold too much against him because in his lone year as a starter he did play well and play really well yeah i i am much more of the thinking that all right not everybody is destined to be really good at a young age not everybody is is destined to come in at 18 19 and be the best version of themselves as a football player sometimes it does take these guys a little bit longer. And yeah, okay, maybe you're drafting them when they're 23 or 24 as opposed to 20 or 21, but that's okay if you're still getting a good football player. Age metrics certainly go into things, but it's not, to me, a massive piece of the pie, if you will.

It's something to consider, but again, if you're getting yourself a good prospect, whether it's an offense tackle or elsewhere, I'm'm okay with that so i don't want to be too harsh on him you mentioned it there were a lot of things in his tape that i saw where whether it was balance or technique or um learning how to handle different moves if guys crossed in his face or like you said going inside whatever it was that felt like it was you clearly are a first-year starter. And I don't mean that to say. Right, and that's just you're going up against really good pass rushers, and this is your first year.

So the fact that he is back again this year to get another year of tape I think will be really advantageous for him, and we'll see if he continues that really good play and even elevate it past that as a second-year guy. My number five, number five on my list. BYU's Blake Freeland. Okay. Do you have Blake in your top five?

I do. Okay. Blake is in my top. And this is the classic Trevor and Connor transition. Blake is at four for me. Okay. All right. So I guess we can go a little bit back and forth here.

So Blake Freeland is my number five guy. Six foot eight, dude. Skyscraper. That's what I write down every time I get a tackle like this. Huge. Six foot eight, 305 pounds, okay? Here's a little bit of background on Blake Freeland. Three-star athlete recruit. Wasn't even labeled an offensive tackle now he figured

he'd probably be playing somewhere on the line in college football but he was labeled as a three-star athlete out of uh uh Utah I can't remember what uh what city he's from I actually didn't write it down but I said he was a recruit from Utah came to be came to byu at 260 pounds so now as i just said he's 305 came in at 260 here here's his high school journey okay two years starting quarterback at his high school his senior season he played quarterback he played tight end he played fullback he played defensive tackle he played defensive end so he didn't even play along the offensive line he just played everywhere else positions he truly truly took to heart that ath athlete position as a recruit because he played so much he was also the 2019 gatorade utah boys track and field athlete of the year because he won as a thrower hat trick of state titles here

shot put discus and javelin which is okay of course you're probably gonna want that guy as your high school quarterback so man it's pretty crazy uh don't stop there what happened state record holder in the javelin oh yeah yeah in his class state record holder in the javelin so the state title wasn't enough he had to hold the record. And I don't know if it still stands, but at the time he set the high school Javelin record in the state of Utah in his class. So it's pretty crazy.

I went back and I watched a little bit of his high school recruiting film because, well, I figured it'd be hilarious. And it absolutely was. They're using him as a six foot seven fullback on wheel routes against linebackers that are like five foot five because it's high school utah football it's so ridiculous it is it's funny it was just funny to see him playing at that level dominating in a variety of different ways so he goes to byu spent two years on the right side of the offensive line before replacing brady christiansensen on the left side back in 2021.

Man, honestly, he flourished. Only had five pressures allowed and 426 pass block snaps that entire first season that he was playing left tackle. And here's my scouting notes on him after watching a handful of games on him. First note, hilariously huge. He is. He's 6'8", man. It's just so funny to watch he looks like a tight end who's just on a good bulking cycle like like like he is eating brownies and peanut butter sandwiches and pizzas and like he looks like a tight end that just is on a serious bulk

cycle right now incredibly impressive athlete for a player who is six foot eight i thought he moved so well a lot of times when you get these guys that are taller they lack flexibility they lack quickness they lack the ability to get out of that stance and really get into their opponents they lack the ability to look comfortable in the open field just because they're so huge they don't really know what to do that doesn't exist with this dude he is a true athlete playing offensive tackle fires off the line of scrimmage he's light on his feet he's fast on the hoof man he is what you would want out of a player of his background and it's so unique i think that he's a really really nice tackle prospect now the weaknesses weaknesses, uh, simply put, he is almost too big. He's got a, he's got a, he's got a hunch over.

He's got a hunch down just to get good, a good contact angle with defensive lineman, natural leverage for this dude. It's pretty non-existent and that's not a knock on him. It just is what it is. He's six foot eight. Um, not that he can't get under certain players, but it's a lot more work for him to do so. Often requires him to, like I said, hunch over, which anytime you do that, anytime you're hunched over as a trench player,

you're giving up core strength, you're giving up balance, things like that. But man, I wanted to highlight those weaknesses just to let people know that they do exist in his game. But I was pleasantly surprised by what I saw. He looks poised. He looks technically sound. He looks technically sound. He looks in control. The hand usage is great. He's not afraid to dictate the point of attack,

even though he's a little bit taller, a little bit skinnier. He doesn't mind getting up in guys' faces, and he does it pretty well. I was really impressed with the kind of athlete that he was and the smooth mover that he was for the player of his size and so i know you got him in number four so you could kind of just take it away with your notes there but i really really liked this prospect and especially the ball of clay that you would think a six foot eight 300 pound offensive lineman would be yeah the last guy i remember evaluating in this mold was Stone Forsythe from Florida. So, and I thought Freeland, because Stone was 6'9", Freeland 6'8", true skyscraper tackles.

They don't come around this often where they're legitimate prospects. And Freeland, to me, is already ahead of where Stone was when he came out as a pass protector. I thought you kind of nailed it, Trevor. I kind of agreed with most of what you said, where he just played very in control. He's very technically sound in pass protection. He does move very well for 6'8". It's not a clunky 6'8".

It's an athletic 6'8". You know, he's kind of built like a power forward out there where he's got the good feet under the glass. And I thought that really shone in pass pro. Now, with guys like this, it's just really hard for them to ever be more than average in the run game. It's just the leverage is very difficult.

He does move very well for his size. So he's not giving up anything in zone. But it's just, and I'm looking at the NFL because who BYU plays plays and it's no slight on byu they play plenty of capable defenses but he's not going out there and you're like oh let me watch you know blake freeland versus will anderson every other week right like you're just never like you're just not going to see that kind of stuff right right and i and i kind of know the answer to that anyway it's it's always going to be a tough battle for him to get leverage in the run game consistently.

But man, he's so good in pass pro that he's got a legitimate shot to develop into a starter at the next level because he is a rare ascending younger talent at BYU. He's not a 26-year-old kind of guy. This is a fourth-year junior that's played a lot of football on both sides of the offensive line. Right tackle because they had Brady Christensen there and now has moved over to left tackle. Once again, that really excellent background, not just the javelin record and the track records and the dad playing for BYU in the 90s on the football team.

I mean, there's a lot of bloodlines there. So, yeah, Freeland came in at four for me. I really liked what I saw from him and was just really impressed with where he is as a pass protector, all things considered. But he's played a lot of ball, and he's shown significant improvement over time where I'm excited to see what he has this year.

It's so funny. You mentioned the power forward thing, and the basketball comparisons are natural. Everyone's going to make them. He played basketball in high school, but an article that i was reading about him said but like basketball was never like he was never really thinking about basketball when you're 6 8 high school you don't have a choice yeah i'm like why

the hell not like but what do you what do you mean what do you mean basketball was never like an option you're six foot eight he was too he was playing he was playing so many different sides of the ball and like i said he was 260 when he got to byu so it's not like he was this like over inflated basketball player he was just probably a really good maybe he didn't have a jump shot dude these six foot eight guys now in college can all shoot in the nba in college maybe he couldn't maybe he can't shoot it happens oh no no hate here all right whenever uh whenever blake freeland comes through in the draft which probably gonna be this year we gotta at least ask him maybe well one of us one of us has got to ask him at the combine just be like all right i have a jump shot and you do you can

you shoot at all whatsoever is that where it all went wrong for you thankfully nfl is very thankful yeah i was gonna say or all went right it is it right. It is funny how good this guy is at his size. I was very pleasantly surprised. That was a very fun watch for me. Number four, since you mentioned your number four, I'll just go to my number four. This is Broderick Jones. This is the Georgia offensive tackle, redshirt sophomore,

former five-star recruit, 6'4", 315 pounds. I i'm gonna guess he's on your list comment yeah good guess we'll get there okay all right so we're so we're getting there five-star offensive tackle but to this point he's only started in four games in his career now georgia good football program not bad got a lot of talent so understandable but uh all of his starts all four of his starts came at left tackle last season he's got 463 snaps i'll start with the scouting report on him massive dude massive dude base is very wide allows him to look imposing out of his stance when you look at him on the left side of that offensive line you just look like you're not gonna have a good time if you're lining up against him like he look he like he looks like

he is about to ufc put some pain on you because it's like a movie character dude he does he does he looks like an offensive tackle casting for a movie he is uh when i say his weight was what was that 315 315 and he's doing he's got the stance where the hands not in the ground the hands are like the elbows are on the knees so it's almost like he's in a fighter's stance like he is about to like lunge at you and uh put you in the walls of jericho or something but he is he is he is he is such a physically imposing guy when you're looking at him across the offensive line i mentioned he's very flexible he's got the wide base he could sink his hips and you see that right before he gets out of his stance shoulders are very broad he can engulf smaller pass rushers the smaller guys get within his

shoulders I mean it's over he's not really letting up on those guys hands are strong upper body seems very strong just in general built very well I think the feet can get a little bit lighter and quicker and if they do he has a chance to be really really good because that was my big weakness for him he's a little bit heavy with his feet it's not terrible but you could tell he's just he is just a little bit heavy with the feet he's more power than he is finesse right now because of i think that if he gets lighter i think it's going to help everything that he struggles with when it comes to mirroring, adjusting to leverage, all that, because that was my biggest, I would say, gripe about him right now,

other than just clear lack of reps, lack of starting, which I'd love to see him in a full year of starting, especially in the SEC. There are just times when he'll engage with somebody, he'll get the hands in the right spot, he'll get them between the shoulders. And then all of a sudden, either they might be able to swipe the hand, or they might be able to kind of like dip one way or the other. And he's like, whoa, okay. And he, you, you watch him in some reps, and he's so strong in his core in his upper body that you go, you should still be able to handle that guy. You should still be able to redirect your way,

re-anchor, get the feet where they need to be. And there are times when guys just get off of the block easier than they should. And I think that comes from the ground up. I think that's because his feet get a little bit heavy on him. And when somebody switches up the leverage, he's not as quick, not as light on the toes to be able to, okay, okay reset now i'm going to

anchor i'm gonna sink a little bit i've still got you so i think that that's the big area that i think that i need to see him improve on but overall imposing is the word i continue to come back to and he's built perfectly for an offensive tackle he's an athletic dude a strong dude he's got the weight distributed exactly the way that you want it it's not sloppy at all whatsoever he's strong and i do think he's a smart offensive tackle for as little as he has played so far so excited to see a lot of uh a lot of his tape moving forward this year hope is a fully healthy year because again this guy feels like he was uh built in a lab if you will you can see why people gave him that five star label uh we just gotta see more of it on the field so that's my thoughts on him he came in at number four for me i like it nice we will um

we will get there on broderick so okay number three for me here as we get into the tackles this might surprise people when i say it i kind of really like the tier of my top three but this is peter skaransky here from northwestern who it's pretty simple as this this was kind of something i used for sauce gardner versus stingley at the end of last year but there is football left for these guys skaransky has the best film library of any eligible tackle in the draft right now. Easily. It's not, if you're not projecting, which we are on Summer Scouting, there's no argument to be had that Skowronski isn't the best tackle prospect in the draft.

Film-wise today, he is the best. He has put out the best film. He has played the best football. Where it's going to be interesting for skaransky is he might go through a little bit of the classic does he have the length does he have the typical measurables to be a left tackle um probably going to be a similar conversation around him compared to what we saw with not his teammate rashaun slater i know it's in a lot of people's heads right now maybe jonah williams i in a lot of people's heads right now.

Maybe Jonah Williams. I know a lot of teams did not evaluate Jonah Williams as a tackle. The Bengals took him as a tackle. I really liked Jonah Williams as a tackle, but that was something that a lot of teams looked at with him that year. So Jonah is 6'4", 305. Skowronski right now is 6'4", 294. That is not a weight that offensive tackles in the NFL play at,

but this is a young guy. He's got time to gain more weight. Let's get right into it. Stepped in and started as a freshman in 2019 after Rashawn Slater opted out. Generates power from a thick lower half and can drive defenders off the ball consistently. Eager to find work and block through the play.

Something I really, really liked on the coach's film with him. Plays with good pad level consistently and leverage, but needs to improve his overall balance. When they have him pull, he gets to his spots and eats up linebackers. That's something to keep in mind when we do go through the conversation of if teams like him as a guard, this guy can be an absolute weapon as a puller. When he gets the chance to do that at the tackle spot, he looks great doing it. He devours linebackers.

Even experience in both zone and gap blocking schemes. Northwestern pretty balanced in terms of their rushing attack. 16.4% impact run blocking in 2021. That's a good number. That means on his run blocking attempts about, you know, almost one out of five or a little less than one out of five are big time blocks. He's making a difference in the play, finishing some of those blocks. Hutchinson and Ajabo really couldn't get much going against him in 2021.

That means something to me because those are NFL players. Right. Obviously, Hutchinson was a top three pick. Obviously, a Jabba without the injury would have been a top 15 or top 20 pick. So that really meant something as well. Bottom line was there will be question about his length in pass pro to stick at tackle. So Skowronski, to me, if the draft was today, is the best offensive lineman. I think he would play guard if he was drafted today to

play in the NFL. I think he has time to silence the doubters of him being a long-term tackle, much like Slater did, much like Jonah Williams did. I am not the arm length police when it comes to scouting. I don't say, I don't cry, move guys to guard every year. I don't really do it very often at all. So I hope Skowronski, when I'm all done with his evaluation at the end of the season, ends up a tackle if that's where he wants to play. Keep in mind, though, he coming out of high school was a, I'm pretty sure just played everywhere,

and it was an emergency that he played tackle at Northwestern because Slater opted out. So this is a guy that was thrown into the tackle spot. I didn't know that. Excelled at tackle and now is playing tackle. So I don't know if he's going to be one of those guys that's like, I'll only play tackle. Some guys are like that.

I don't get that vibe from this dude. I think he just wants to start and make an impact on the offensive line. Where NFL teams dictate that will be will be interesting. But Trevor, I love this player. He has first round film. He's a really, really good player. And he would, fingers crossed this doesn't happen, he would have to get hurt this year

to not go in the first round. Like he's the only guy that we're gonna talk about today that I will say that with. He's the only closest thing to a sure thing that will be on the show for me today. So his recruiting profile has him listed as a center. Yes. Oh, okay.

This dude was not supposed to be a tackle. Okay, so he was recruited as an interior offensive lineman, and then he was playing offensive tackle, and he just happens to be really good at it, which actually goes along with my scouting report on him. I'm not going to give it all away because he is um a lot further of the list for me but you know it's my list is very funny because i'll tell you i guess i'll just say this now I watched Peter Skowronski first. Me too. Out of everyone. I was like, this dude's so clean.

I love what this dude is as an offensive lineman. I think he could play all five spots in the offensive line. I didn't even know he played center before. And I had written down, I was like, I bet this guy could play all five spots on the offensive line. I really think that. And I noticed the same deficiencies that you did so i said to myself okay there's no way i'm gonna have this dude as my top offensive tackle and i do but we'll get to that we will get we will get to that in i don't know 15 20 minutes

whatever it is i have he's the best one out of all of them. But once again, there's a little projecting here. I have very interesting, probably conflicting methods with how I ranked my offensive tackles. But, you know, I am who I am. And that's all I can be. So who's number three? My number three guy is Paris Johnson Jr., the Ohio State offensive lineman.

Okay, played on the interior this past year. Six foot six six 315 pounds look you watch a handful of games on this guy and you go okay this is this is an offensive tackle who it just happens to be playing interior offensive line like they clearly needed him to play at the guard spot and that's what the situation was he's a five-star offensive tackle prospect from c, Ohio. Freshman season, he was backing up at right tackle for Ohio State. Sophomore season, he's starting at right guard.

And now he is the starting left tackle. So he's officially the starting left tackle. Another thing that I loved about him, he has already launched a foundation called the Paris Johnson Jr. Foundation, which is helping military veterans and student athletes across the country to areas of life that he's very passionate about. He's already very veterans and student athletes across the country to areas of life that he's very passionate about. He's already very heavily involved in that and wanted to get that off the ground when a lot of the NIL stuff started. And he just seems like an awesome dude, man. He seems like he's got a great head on his shoulders.

I loved reading about that. Definitely wanted to give him a shout out there because I thought that that was a really, really cool part of his story as I was looking up some background information to him so like I said he's playing at right guard in the film that you're watching if you're watching him this summer but we all know what's coming the most important film for him is upcoming this season it's going to be him playing at left tackle so some traits that I wrote down good combination of athleticism and size for the position. When I say that, I even mean offensive tackle, not just as an interior player. He's always looking for work on the inside, which I loved. I love that awareness that I saw from good awareness of where pressure's coming from. Clearly one of the better moving players along the interior skill set is best suited for offensive tackle. So excited to see

him there at that spot this year with the weakness for his scouting reporter skills are kind of tough to judge because he is straight up built more like an offensive tackle he plays more like an offensive tackle true but all of his snaps were a guard and so it's like you're kind of watching this guy fight this inner battle between doing what he is supposed to be doing in a in a style in which he's supposed to be playing interior offensive line, knowing damn well that some of his best assets, you know, his movement skills, his longer arms, everything like that's not being utilized nearly as much as it could have been at offensive tackle.

So I've got him at number three. I think there's going to be a lot of people who have him maybe even as their top guy, number two guy, whatever. And I'm not going to be a lot of people who have him maybe even as their top guy number two guy whatever and I'm not going to push back too hard on that I was just I don't know if I want to call myself a coward for it but I've just got to see it at left tackle I'm just waiting I'm just waiting to see it at left tackle he's got all the tools you like I like just what he was as an offensive lineman last year but you know i okay i'll just ask you do you have him in number one i've met number two okay so you got him in number two like i said i think

there's a lot of people that are gonna have him in number two number one and those people i i don't have a problem with it they're just more comfortable with the projection than i am and i was just like you know what i already put a reek Gilbert as my number one tight end so let me let me back off on the full full send the full on projections for the rankings maybe this is me hedging my bets but this is a really good offensive line prospect and uh he's playing his real position he's home this year so that's where we're really going to see the tape of him so I had him at number two and i almost had him at number one to piggyback off of what you said who do you have number one we'll get there oh you go okay you got you got all right we'll get there we'll get there

so paris johnson jr was awesome let me just call it like i see it man like he he easily could have been number one for me like i said i have skaransky and him and my number one guy in the same tier right now uh with a little bit more meat on the bone i think for paris and my number one guy then skaransky listed six foot six 315 recruited as a tackle this is what he's supposed to be like you said trevor he's just so damn talented they threw him on the line and like yeah we're gonna get we're gonna use you right now and you're gonna play right guard uh and he did a really good job considering he is not a guard so former five-star and top-ranked player in the state of ohio uh great build with length and raw power i did think in pass pro he has the little bit of the aquanu habit of stopping his feet when

he throws his hands which is something that is very coachable and something that a quanu got significantly better at from sophomore year to junior year where i'm hoping for paris that's something that happens with him and maybe that's something that in his kick slides and his you know getting into his pass sets he's just more natural a tackle he's not a guard it's different past protecting a guard is different than pass protecting a tackle. So I wrote that like in pencil where I'm like, I don't know if this is going to be a real issue. It is right now in the few times he gets beat inside,

which wasn't a ton. So I think that he's going to be okay. He's a killer in the run game. Grip strength, power, demeanor, leg drive. He's got it all. He kills people in the run game grip strength power demeanor leg drive he's got it all he kills people in the run game and that's to me what stood out with him on film 19.7 impact run blocking in 2021 that's an ass-kicking number uh climbs to the second level and with acceleration and just erases linebackers consistently ohio state when you watch Travion Henderson,

some of these big-time runs, Paris Johnson was right in the middle of all of them. I thought he was better than both their offensive linemen that got drafted last year. Honestly, he really was. It's the classic case of, and I respect Ohio State for doing this, they're obviously a great program. This is the dude, and they could have taken one of the veterans out

and said, hey, the five-star that's awesome is going to play tackle. And they didn't go that route out of respect, but I think he was ready to start a tackle for them last year. They played him at guard. So I can't wait to see him at tackle this year. I think he's going to be fine. I think he has a very good chance of accelerating into being a top 15 pick with his kind of talent but like you said trevor we just have not gotten the opportunity to see that yet so he was number two for me my number two guy is a guy that is not on your top five so we are continuing the trend of me having some guys in my top five that is not i guess who do you think it is? Is it Zion? No. Okay, good.

No, no. We're going to talk about Zion because I want to shout him out because you know what? I'm proud of Zion. I'm proud of Zion Nelson. He's gotten a lot better. We'll break him down when we get outside the top five.

Number two for me is Anton Harrison from Oklahoma. He was one of the guys that the door was open for him to be at five um we'll get there why he wasn't six foot six 310 pounds and yeah feel free to piggyback after you hear my thoughts on him six foot six 310 pounds so again massive dude okay four-star offensive tackle prospect from washington dc area he's a true junior who already has 1000 snaps at left tackle to his name. So he's got a ton of experience. And I'm telling you guys that shows up in his film. When you watch him play, he looks very in control at all times, that big body, it, it not only engulfs people the way that you think that it would,

but he's able to mirror people, man. He's able to take stunts and games and twists and just like play off of it perfectly, perfectly. I saw him. I was watching that Texas game specifically, and they were throwing a lot at him at the beginning of that game, and he was so calm, so poised, and I just rarely see players that big with that big of frame

be able to adjust to contact that they're not looking at head on. You know, you look at some of these guys and if you get bumped one way or the other, they're so big. It's like, you know, like it's just like a building fall. Like it's almost like there's nothing you could do about it. It's going one way or tree or whatever you want to use as an analogy. He's not like that. nothing you can do about it. It's going one way or a tree or whatever you want to use as an analogy. He's not like that. He takes contact very well.

I think he's soft, and when he absorbs different contact, he knows how to control it. Man, I think that all of that stuff, it just does not face him at all. And I think you can tell by the reps, the experience, he's using that all to his advantage. You want him to be a bit stronger with his size, but I'll say reportedly he's hit the gym really hard over this off season. He knew that that's exactly what he needed to work on to get better. I watched a couple interviews of his where one of the questions that was asked

of him was if you could go back now that you've got all this time starting at Oklahoma, if you could go back and that you've got all this time starting at Oklahoma if you could go back and tell your freshman self something what would it be and he kind of laughed and he said I'd be a lot more serious about getting in the weight room and getting stronger a lot sooner because he said he's like if I had my mentality that I have now back when I was a freshman he's like my tape would even look even better like I'd be a lot further along so I think that that's the big weakness um for him is that there's not as much of a strength profile to his game as you would want for a guy who's six foot six i'll also say though he is six foot six i feel like he doesn't typically have like the arm length of a player who's six foot six which i again like i i

never exactly know how to judge that because i'm watching game film i'm not like seeing his measurable numbers yeah it's a bit of a guessing game right maybe it would come out that his arms are perfectly fine he's just got to use them a little bit better but i feel like he lost the arm length battle way more than i thought for a player with his overall height um for a bigger player obviously like he's not as smooth of a mover as some of these other players uh when it comes to just just covering a ton of ground. But really, that's almost kind of nitpicking for him because I do think that he's a really good athlete for his size.

I was just so pleased with how poised this player was, how good he was at getting his hands on guys. Like I mentioned, how great he was at redirecting contact if it was coming in from his outside shoulder, his inside shoulder, whatever he was able to kind of center it, throw it one way or the other. I just felt like he never panicked at all. The strength profile in his game, I think is something that he definitely needs to work on,

but I've read that it is getting better. So him being number two on my list is me buying into him being stronger overall because if we get that this is a really damn good offensive tackle prospect and and that's kind of where i am and that's me planting my flag on him right there it's gonna be interesting to see how he does with the transitioning of that program right now obviously in a in a spot where you know there's a lot of change going on there and how he handles that I'm not saying he will handle it poorly or anything like that it's just interesting for a player that you kind of outlined it Trevor there's very key things there for him to work on and he deserves the proper coaching and development

by that staff my concerns with him I just thought he was far away physically. And you kind of said that, that he just needs to get stronger. I didn't think there was a lot of forcefulness in his hands when he threw his hands. And I think that he just didn't play a very violent brand of football at the position. But I also think that when he gets beat in pass pro, he wasn't an elite mover, in my opinion, where he can make up for that lack of forcefulness in his hands. So he's interesting because he's somebody that can make a big jump this year. He's already started a full season. He started a lot of games. I just thought he was a little bit far away. I thought he was getting

beat a lot in that conference, and I thought his anchor was a bit of an issue with that so i i think that i really want to see him dominate in that conference before i'm super high on him fair that's fair that's fair this is this is definitely my projection projection pick kind of kind of fell in love with the good parts of the tape yeah um well that was yeah that's what that's why I kind of had him as high as I did. So who's your number one? I mean, you want to talk about projection. My number one is Broderick Jones. Okay, yeah.

Process of elimination, I figured. Yeah, I mean, you want to talk about projection, a guy that didn't even play, I think, 500 snaps last year. So now whether that's right or wrong is another conversation they won the national title so i guess they can't be wrong it's impossibly wrong when you win the championship yeah but they didn't win the sec title you know damn i'm kind of a little wrong this dude should be a stud if he comes out if he's ready to come out after this year then so be it if not give him two years he's a redshirt sophomore you kind of highlighted it when you had him at four he looks incredible honestly 6'4 315

muscled up incredible perfect tackle build former five star he made multiple starts at left tackle for their championship team when jamari salyer got hurt so this dude is playing in big time games against big time competition and he's played at a high level there's a play that and i feel bad for the audience i i would love to tell you to go back and watch it but you ironically can't it's on the coach's film but for some reason the broadcast of the game was missed it because it's because i wanted to go back and make it a gif on the broadcast obviously if you guys haven't noticed trevor and i don't post coach's film uh for a lot of reasons we're not going to get into yeah so uh it doesn't exist they're going back to show like highlights

of another game and they come back and the play is ending there's a play against vanderbilt it's vanderbilt i didn't watch the vandy game he blocks a defender into the kicking net on the sideline he takes the defender and he takes him all the way to the sideline and just when you think he's gonna stop he takes him into the kicking net of the whistle yes through the kicking net baby needless to say he's got a lot of nasty in him he's got what i would call cannonball power um he's the best run blocker at tackle in this class he's doing it as a sophomore in the sec and i mean it's incredible to watch now another thing i really liked when you look at the pass pro, his reset strength is

excellent. There are so many times where a guy throws his first move and he's young. He's a sophomore. He didn't come into the season as a starter, so he's kind of thrown out there under the fire. The first move might kind of work, and his reset strength is my feet are in the ground and you are not moving me another inch. Where there's so many times where so many tackles would be beaten and the quarterback would get demolished. But with him, his ability to reset, which was something I loved about, I think Charles Cross last year was the guy I'm thinking of.

It really matters a lot. So Broderick... Cross was excellent at that. He was excellent at that. That's who I thought of with this. This dude is just a different animal. He had us a run blocker. Once again, there's a limited sample size.

You got to watch his starts to really get the full picture. But I'm projecting this guy to be a star. And once again, maybe it's not to the point where he's like, okay, I'm going to declare after one year at Georgia and go be whatever they're projecting me as. Maybe it's two years away because he is so young. This is a little bit Arik Gilbert-ish of me. Like, you had him as the number one tight end,

and you're like, I think he's going to be a star. I think Broderick, we haven't seen a ton, but I think he's going to be a star. I think he has all the makings to be a powerhouse tackle that goes in the top 10 of the draft and is a franchise cornerstone for a team on the offensive line for a very long time if he plays a full healthy year this year i have a very hard time thinking that he's not gonna go pro i have a very i have a very hard time believing

that it's just all there i mean and it's been there since high school but when you got to see it on the field last year for a championship team it's like i love the way this dude plays like there's there's times where he comes he doesn't come in the game he's already in the game they're winning 55 nothing and he's blocking like they're down a touchdown and this drive is deciding if the game goes into overtime or not and that to me says so much about a player where it's like man you could just take your foot off the gas and but he he loved the gas. But he loved being on the field. He loved being on the field, and it was like, I'm more talented than anybody else in the trenches right now.

So I'm expecting a huge year for him, and I'd be lying. Like, to watch him in Paris actually get to play at their real spots this year from the get-go, I think is what can make this tackle class be like, it's not like the previous years. If both those guys hit their potential with Skowronski, then you have another big three again. Yeah, if you're talking about Skowronski as the worst, and I've got Skowronski at number one. You mentioned just how if the draft were tomorrow, you're...

He's the guy. I mean, well, I mean, look, some teams like to project off traits anyways. If Jacksonville's picking a number one they're probably picking roger jones anyways but uh yeah i mean like trayvon walker dig at the end of june he's he is so peter skronsky is there's just so much to like about his tape we already talked about how kind of came in as interior offensive lineman only played left tackle because he had to and oh look at that he's fantastic at it because he's just a damn good

offensive lineman there are a bunch of prospects that'll come through well i don't want to say a bunch but there are a handful of guys i would say over the last three or four years where you just go that dude was born to play o-line and he just gets it like those players just get it along the offensive line peter skoronski is one of those players so four slash five star give a little bit more background on 4-5 star offensive tackle from Park Ridge, Illinois. Picked the Wildcats over Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State. He was the first 5-star, depending on which recruiting site you used,

in Northwestern's history that they were able to get, which is pretty cool. How about this, Connor? His grandfather, Bob Skowronskiky was a starting lineman and captain for all five of vince lombardi's nfl championships with the green bay packers that's insane his dad bob jr played uh defensive line at yale so he's got the football background uh with his dad too made it to the 2020 freshman all-american team and the all big 10 team when he was starting at left tackle following ray sean slater opting out only give up two sacks and over 600 snaps as a true freshman pretty crazy strengths and weaknesses a lot of the same things you said

already smart and steady left tackle who comes with plenty of experience feels in control once he gets his hands engaged knows how to angle his leverage and his aiming points really well to control defensive linemen once they get between his shoulders kick slide is fast and the feet are nimble which is what you want to see for a player who's sub 300 you got to see it but you do see it love how wide and comfortable the base is shows a good flexibility there will absolutely finish through the whistle uh from his coaches his best qualities are this is from his that was reading about from his coaches best qualities work ethic passion high iq for the position they can put him at any spot on the offensive line he's gonna thrive now the weaknesses you mentioned these as well lighter weight proves to be an issue when he's dealing with strength he can get bull rushed right into

the quarterback's lap on occasion on the flip side at his lighter weight he does move well but the um but his size and his strides aren't long enough to be super reliable against the fastest kind of speed rushers that you're going to see the outside shoulder arm length can also get him in trouble against some of the more physically gifted pass rushers that you're going up against i am number one because his tape's the best yeah as of right now i will not i will not argue against you but this is a for me you know i know anton harrison isn't as high for you for me this was a really intriguing top five players because i don't think any of them are really near their ceiling yet maybe skaronski

is that's why he's at the top by default because he got the highest floor but that floor as an offensive tackle is going to be top five in this class. So it's going to be somewhere along the order, whether it's number one, whether it's number three or four or whatever it is, he's going to be in that top five. Those are the guys, Freeland, Paris Johnson Jr., and Broderick Jones. All of these guys, to me, have crazy potential of what could be this upcoming year.

And it's not the strongest offensive tackle class right now, or upcoming year and it's not the strongest offensive tackle class right now or should i say it's not the most proven but there is a lot of talent there to like you said before if these guys hit we're talking about a really nice offensive tackle class within the top 50 picks i agree i i think it's I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of last year. Like we knew Evan Neal was probably going to be a top 10 pick, right? We did not know Ikea Kwanu would have that kind of rise. No,

it's true. It's true. Fair to him. So Charles Cross as well. Charles Cross was viewed as like good. Yeah. But then he really turned out to be phenomenal at pass pro. Yeah.

Like end around one. And he obviously went a lot higher because he had a great year. So I think there's context needed where it's like, man, feel good about Skowronski already. I don't think he's Evan Neal's caliber this time last year, but I think he's really good. Now, if one of Paris or Broderick pans out the way we think they will,

then you have a good top two in the tackle class. Right, right. And like you said, there's guys that have room to grow. Like Antoine, Anton Harrison has room to grow right there. And it's, it goes back to the number five for me with Javon Foster. Like he's, yes, he's an older player as a redshirt senior who didn't start till last year, but there's things technically that if he improves on, he could be a rock solid player and maybe have a chance, you know,

to start down the road in the NFL. Like I said, right now, I don't see that but yeah solid tackle group and one that we're going to be watching very closely because it is it safe to say they have the most to gain out of all the guys we've done so far not counting quarterback that doesn't count you know i would i would 100 agree because we know that the league is going to covet offensive tackles they always do and if these guys even prove that they have potential like that they could be there the n league is going to covet offensive tackles. They always do. And if these guys even prove that they have potential, like that they could be there, the NFL is going to want to get these guys on their team.

So no, I think that that's absolutely fair. Two guys I wanted to shout out outside of the top five. We'll hear a couple from you as well. If you want to highlight those guys before we flip over to interior offensive lineman, Zion Nelson, I mentioned it from Miami. I wanted to shout this guy out. Okay. Three-star offensive tackle from Sumner South Carolina recruiting profile said he was six foot

five 240 pounds when he when he signed on to Miami if you've heard the name Zion Nelson before it's probably in a bad way Nelson started all 13 of Miami's games as a true freshman and allowed the most sacks of any starting tackle from a Power 5 team that year. Nelson infamously graded a 0.0 in his first game against Florida, and the Miami's offensive line allowed it nine total sacks. The good news, though, since that time, he has seen his pass-blocking grade take a leap from 46.8 in the first season to 78.7 in 2020 and then 85.3 last year.

He has played some really good football, especially as of late. Within the last, what was it, final five games, he only allowed two total pressures. So now I mentioned he's six foot he was six foot five 240 pounds when he got to miami now he is uh he's six foot five 315 pounds so he's carrying a lot more weight to him i really like the pass protection man me too he was really good in pass protection now he's got to be stronger he's got to be way stronger both in pass protection and especially in the run game he's got to get more beef He's got to be way stronger, both in pass protection and especially in the run game.

He's got to get more beef to him. But when you take all that into context, that he was starting just absolutely thrown to the flames. He was 6'5", 240 pounds, and they started this guy six months later against the Florida Gators in week one. Okay, like that's just crazy. Nobody was going to succeed in those kinds of environments. And you see the steady increase in production over the last couple of years. I really do believe that he's developed into a very nice offensive tackle

prospect. Want to see more strength from him, but that was good there. And then another guy, Trevor Reed, the offensive tackle from Louisville. What's the measurements here? Six foot five,

305 pounds. He's another athlete guy, very athletic. There's even videos of him doing backflips at 300 pounds that's what that's uh how athletic we're talking about here and he moves out of his stance very very well he's just too much finesse it's kind of the same thing as i and nelson right now better in pass protection than he is in uh in um in run blocking he's just got to get more power to his profile whether it's gain in weight because the only 305 pounds are

just hitting the weight room whatever it is i don't know uh but he's just he's got to get stronger so those are two guys that wanted to shout out for sure for sure yeah there was it you know a couple guys that I got to see some of but I just wasn't comfortable you know along with Harrison having them in the top five but they easily could be if you try to project them um you know like a jalen duncan on maryland uh we've seen a lot of connor galvin play for baylor he's somebody that is probably going to get a good run uh at the shrine or senior bowl kind of circuit and then darnell wright from tennessee is a really interesting player as well he was a former big time recruit five-star recruit that kind of settled in last year so all right let's get into

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your platinum package that's right all right let's get into the interior offensive lineman out of the camera and the lights are not going to shut off on me. Connor, I guess we got to go a little bit faster on these interior offensive linemen. I'll do five through three, and then two and one. I think that's probably appropriate for the class. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so five, Jarrett Patterson, the center for Notre Dame. Four, Andrew Voorhees.

I'm projecting him as a guard, but he plays tackle as well for USC. Patterson, the center for Notre Dame. Four, Andrew Voorhees, the... I'm projecting him as a guard, but he plays tackle as well for USC, so he's on the interior list. And then three is John Michael Schmitz, the center for Minnesota. Wait, who was fired for you? Jarrett Patterson.

Okay, okay, okay, sorry. Center for Notre Dame. Okay, okay, okay. Is everything okay? No, yeah, I was just... I was reading something, and then all of a sudden you got to number four and I was like, Oh no, that happens. It happens. Um, you know, it's, it's hard sometimes we're doing a lot of things. Sometimes, uh, you lose track of what you're reading and listening. It really is. Okay. So Patterson is a

long time starter at center for Notre Dame. Um Dame and somebody that, you know, realistically could have been in the draft last year and I wouldn't have been like, oh my God, this is nuts. There's a handful of these interior offensive linemen. Yeah, it's kind of strange. I don't really know what happened. I think they're just enjoying college. He's a grad student, okay, and he's played good football for a long time. 6'4.5", 307, that's pretty big for a center.

Team captain already has started since 2019. So we're talking about somebody that has started since before the pandemic and was a team captain in 2021. Very intelligent, fundamentally center. Can execute multiple blocks, cutting off defenders, reach blocking, drive blocking. Never the weak link on a play,

which I really like to see from him. And that's a program where you get excellent coaching, excellent development. He is somebody that is an NFL caliber center that has done everything the right way. Is he the strongest guy, the most athletic guy? You know, is he like a Tyler Linderbaum, Cam Juergens? You know, he's not that kind of guy,

but he's done a lot of things the right way for a long time at that program. So I liked him. And Andrew Voorhees was somebody that, you know, I'm glad you and I both, without even talking to each other, evaluated him in the guard class because 6'3", 20. I don't know if he's actually 6'6", probably more 6'5", but that's what he's listed as.

Redshirt senior at USC. I mean, dating apps, you could use that, I guess. Just taking a shot at the Bumble profile. Started at both left tackle and left guard in 2021. Thick downhill drive blocker. I thought his anchor gets tested against better teams. When you're a taller guy like that, that leverage is going to happen sometimes. I didn't think he was on the level of Elijah Vera Tucker

that came out of there a couple years ago, but has given them that nice versatility of the left tackle, left guard spot. So Voorhees is another player that he would have been drafted if he declared last year the third guy I'm really excited to talk about that's John Michael Schmitz who honestly could end up being the top interior offensive lineman when all is said and done in this draft wow he's built and plays like Frank Ragno from Arkansas a couple years ago. That's been excellent for the Lions for a while. Burley center with guard type power. I love watching this dude play. He's an ass kicker in the middle of the offensive line.

And I'm a little confused why he didn't declare last year. I don't know how much his stock is really going to raise at Minnesota this year. But he's somebody that I think will be a day two center pick in the draft. So those three, you know, it's not the best interior class, but I thought John Michael Schmitz has a pretty clearly defined role as one of the big center teams that are big gap blocking teams, drive blocking teams that like bigger centers, which is less and less of the NFL as time goes on, will like John Michael Schmitz. Man, I had him just outside.

I had him at six. I mean. I don't know if I just watched the wrong games or what, but I did not think that he was as strong as you are saying he is. Yeah, I thought he was pretty nasty. I think he moves really well. I think he fires off when he snaps the football. He could fire it off.

He loves to get his hands up first. He loves to dictate the point of contact. And so that would make sense, what you're talking about, of him having that strength profile to his game. I just didn't see the strength as as much of a strength, if you will, as you did. Maybe that's why he went back to school, to shut you up. I hope he went back for more than that, because he could have done that by just,

you know, doing something else, making millions of dollars at the same time. But no, I thought he was a good player. I really did. He was one of those players who I was, was confused about of why he went back because I thought that he kind of proved a lot of what he needed to. Yeah. How centers, how high can your stock climb? I don't know. I don't know. i don't know i really don't like that was he's i don't see a chance of him working his way into round one but no

it's so i mean hey if you like college football then stay i don't care do whatever you like to do sure hey look college best time of your life right yeah uh i'm my number five i also had jerry patterson i kind of had him in. I didn't know if that would be a surprise one. I'm like, nobody talks about this guy. No, dude. Started for like eight years. Right, and he's just steady, man.

Never the weak link. You could pop on the tape and you'd go, okay, athletically limited. That's why he's a center, right? I mean, he's not playing offensive tackle. Don't judge him as if he is. He's got help on both sides. He's a phone booth player. Yes. That's it. That's what it is. But he's not, he's not playing offensive tackle. Don't judge him as if he is. He's got help on both sides. He's a phone booth player. Yes.

That's it. That's what it is. But he's steady and he's, he's not this guy who's going to be an absolute grizzly bear against you and absolutely bury you into the ground, but he's going to stay in front of you. He's going to get his hands in the right spot. He's going to sink his hips. Well, he's got a wide base.

He lets you, he just knows the position really, really well. So that's why I had him at number five there. Caleb Chandler player from Louisville, red shirt senior uh you said that you did not watch him right no i did not watch him i have him at number four six foot four 300 pounds i i i liked him i mean he is he is a ringing endorsement no but he's so like i'm trying to find a way to say this because all louisville tackles or like all lou Louisville offensive linemen feel this way. They're just these like long athletic offensive linemen, whether you're playing tackle,

whether you're playing on the interior. I mean, I know Mackay Beckton was the size of a planet. So it's a little bit different, but like, that's, that's what I had for him. He is an interior offensive lineman.

That's that's Chandler who does his best work when he is moving. When he's like trying to block in space, he's really great at lining people up. He's excited to block in space zone, blocking capabilities. He likes to play through the whistle. He really does weaknesses because I just said that his strengths are, he's long and athletic.

I mean, he doesn't have a ton of sand in the pants when he's anchoring. None of these totally exposed to it, but it's definitely something that takes him a couple more steps to stop guys in their tracks uh won't dominate the point of attack he's just he is more of a finesse interior offensive lineman that you're gonna find he's gonna give you that plus length if that's something that you're into and he likes blocking in space for the uh give you plus length if that's something you're into if that's something you're into i mean you could also put that in the bumble

profile i guess that's what we're uh that's what we're going with that's the theme of the interior offensive lineman but he's just a different brand right and i think that that's why i was a little hesitant of like how i was going to intro him because when you turn on into your offensive lineman you want to see i mean you want to see cooper bb right we haven't talked about there we go we haven't talked about him yet because he's in our top two, understandably so. But you want to see this burly, giant-chested, sort of short arms, but stocky dudes you're getting in your face, all but power.

Yeah, and it's just sweat pouring off them like borderline spit coming out of their mouth after every block. And that's just not Caleb Chandler. He's not built that way. So it's a little bit different. It's a a little bit different to explain you got to look at him in a little bit different way number three for me layton robinson the uh the texas a&m redshirt junior there i saw you post a clip on twitter of him absolutely burying someone i think it was in the missouri game six foot four 320 pounds dude dude's a true power blocker. I mean, you put it right in the tweet, man.

I mean, like, this dude will absolutely bury your ass if you give him the opportunity to. Wants to erase every single defensive player who gets in his way. Great mentality for the position, right? I talked about those players that you want to see when you turn on interior offensive linemen. That's this guy. I think he's got good eyes for extra work.'s got a good strong base to him weakness i don't think

he's the most nimble offensive lineman he's clearly a more power guy than a finesse guy hands can be a little bit low and slow i think that for whatever reason he just keeps the hands a little bit lower hand placement's a little bit stylistic with some of these guys and so i don't like to harp on it too much unless i see it kind of getting in the way of really getting your hands where they need to when the defensive lineman's trying to extend their arms and i feel like i saw that a little bit with robinson so that's why i kind of noted it there so i thought the hands were a little bit low and slow with him um where was i a little reckless at times when it comes to run blocking because he absolutely just wants to erase people off the planet,

so he gets a little bit reckless. But big, powerful interior offensive lineman. I think he brings a lot to the table, and I do like his skill set, so that's why I had him at number three. Okay, so two and one for me. I'll group together here because I think that they're not that far apart, and you already talked about one of them. two for me is Cooper Beebe I mean he's another guy that has been playing tackle you could easily see the build to play guard the

projection to play guard and he's played a lot of good football I would say this is the Skowronski of the interior class where it's like man if the draft was today i've kind of seen it all from this guy uh he started all of 2021 at left tackle he's also played guard and right tackle very disciplined player that does not lose a lot of reps thought he was very athletic for that build he does have that burly build but i thought he was very very athletic doesn't really get beat very often nope um he has very really get beat very often. Nope. He has very clean film. Honestly, very, very clean film.

I think with him, I wish I just... It's just such a stupid, annoying thing to say, but I just kind of wish he played in the SEC or the Big Ten because I would like to see him be challenged more. It was kind of boring watching his film. It was definitely boring watching his film. He just hasn't had a lot of challenges. Maybe that's a great sign of the player to be fair to him it's good that he has not really had those moments to be challenged i know he has uh consistently graded out very highly at pff and justifiably so after watching the film because he does not really get beat

once again in pass pro very often he moves very well and he does everything asked of him as a run blocker so my number one guy you already talked about in laden robinson oh you got laden at one yeah it's yeah i mean you're right there are things that he needs to work on he's a little reckless he's a little out of control there is projecting here but if you want to find a guy that can be an all pro yeah i'll say pro bowl caliber and that's all the fame he's all the fame the greatest ever place if i mean if you're looking for a guy to be the greatest to ever play the position he brings you the profile he he kind of was like watching peak Trey Turner on times at film where you're right. Like his best is he's killing people from the interior of it.

Like he's an eraser and it's pretty wild. He had a 21.4% impact run blocking rate. That means more than one out of every five run black blocking reps he has he's killing people like he's making a difference on the play he's not just a part of the play you know he's well beyond the whistle he wears guys out in the sec like wears them out where they're just like i'm sick of this dude get away from me legit climbing speed uh considering his girthy tree trunk build i was impressed how quick he can get to the second level, latch onto a linebacker, and take them out of the play

where Spiller is just like, cool, free 10 yards. Now I got to beat the safety. Yeah, right. Over and over again. There were a lot of instances like that. You were right. He's often the first one off the ball. Very good quickness off the ball.

Obviously plays close to the ball, playing right guard. But still, I thought he looked very quick for that weight he's carrying spatial awareness and pass pro is is a work in progress it's he does not pick up stunts and twist he sometimes it's just not aware like if the rusher is not directly in front of him and he's like you're my he. He struggles a little bit. He's just not quick twitch peripheral vision. He looks like he, like his eyes are moving. He just doesn't anticipate it as well as he could. That's all it is. He's reacting.

Yeah. Yeah. He's reacting. Not, you know, pre-snap aware. It's like when it happens, he's like, oh shit. But like, it's not like when you watch bb for instance who is not as physically imposing as him but is cleaner in pass protection is just and once again some of these guys have played more than others or are playing a different level of

competition there are things here to take into account but i liked what i saw from bb and robinson a lot where I'm like, okay, these guys are starting NFL caliber guards where I didn't see a lot of guys like that in this class. I was a little disappointed and maybe, maybe more develop along the way. One name I'll throw out here before you get to your top two. That's a really intriguing guy is Osiris Torrance, who's transferring from Louisiana to Florida.

But overall it wasn't a guard class where I walked away and I was like, oh, man, there's a lot of guys to get through here. So I'm hoping that a lot of surprise players have a big-time season. I don't know about a lot. You're right. I think the top three, my top three guys, Leighton Robinson, I have Cooper Beebe as my number two guy. Who's number one? Dude, I have Andrew Voorhees as my number one guy.

Okay. I mean, I know. Bro bro he was awesome he was you talk about getting bored watching tape i don't know if i got bored watching tape i think i got excited watching this guy's tape because i felt like he showed me everything that i wanted to see at the at the guard spot i didn't watch any of his tackle tape because okay i think he's going to be a guard so i only watched his guard tape and I thought he was fantastic, man. I'll just go down the strengths and weaknesses. I wrote it in here. This is one of the easiest evals I'll do all summer. I think just wow.

Good football player. That's that's it. He's just, he's, he has his assignment. He's an offensive guard and I think he's damn good at it. He's the only returning offensive lineman in the country to earn a run blocking and pass blocking grade above 90 each are above 90 so he graded out as an elite pass blocker and run blocker last year no idea why he returned no idea the guy would have been in clearly the advisory was like i think sorry dude i think he would have i think he should have been a second-round pick if he left last year. And times haven't been great at USC.

He talks about how much he loves USC, how much he's loved being there. Perhaps he wants one year of Caleb Williams and Lincoln Riley and to really see what happens with the USC program to see if they can win a Pac-12 title and make some noise in the college football playoff. Maybe that's really what he wants, but I truly thought he would have been an automatic day two pick last year. Vori's build, athletic ability, technique, and clear experience

make him a really clean prospect to me. I think he would have been a day two pick last year. There's no reason to think that he would be anything less after another year of stellar play. And he's got a great wide base, good footwork when climbing and mirroring, always looking for extra work, finishing through the whistle, reliable hand placement, constantly keeps defenders in between his shoulders for maximum grip, leverage, and power.

I just think he understood how to play the position so, so well. I hope they keep him there for the entire year. I hope he gets as much reps as possible at that guard spot, if they do we're gonna see some really damn good tape and i i agree with all the stuff that you said about um goober bb he's fantastic as well former defensive tackle i did want to make sure everybody knew he played defensive tackle in high school flips over to the offensive side of the ball when he came over to kansas state he's played on the interior he's played offensive tackle. And just another guy who I think understands it really, really well.

So, yeah, there we go. I'll say for Voorhees, I know I said maybe he didn't get the advisory. Lincoln Riley did get that job in November. So there was plenty of time to convince guys to stay. I'll do some digging on that. I'll try to find out if he if he stayed if we could find out i don't think we'll find out his round grade unless it was a really good one i know i mean clearly i mean like if he if he got like a first round grade he's leaving it doesn't matter so clearly he didn't get that but i was really i was really impressed with his film i i really was and And so he was, he was,

I don't want to say pretty easily because BB's film was also very good. Very good. Those three offensive interior offensive linemen. I have faith in, they can be top 75 picks. Like those dudes can be anywhere from round one, two, and three. Like, I think that those guys have that kind of talent level. Maybe even get them all as, I don't want to say top 50. Cause then you're sneaking

two of them in the first round and I'm not so sure that that's going to happen. But I'm excited. I like these three guys. I like those three guys. I like Robinson. I like BB and I liked Voorhees.

So those are my, those are my top three guys when it comes to this class. So that closes the book on the offense for the summer. It's kind of wild to think we, in our brains and for the listeners of the show, have like. It's kind of wild to think we, in our brains, and for the listeners of the show,

have like a full painted picture without the breakouts because we can't predict the future on this spot as much as we tell you we can. Well, we can, but we just don't like to. We just don't like to do that. We don't want to get the government involved. If you guys start betting on it, then you're going to... Good point.

We want to keep that to ourselves as we sit here on our gold hills and coins. We bet strategically. So, yeah, that's the offensive picture for this draft. And you can kind of see we might have a big bounce back quarterback year. We have a star running back. Wide receiver is pretty good at the top again. And tight end is very, very good for tight end.

Yep. And then you saw offensive line today where it's, you know, we're waiting to see what a couple, some strides a couple top guys can make. But it can be a decent tackle class at the top with an offensive line class in the interior that, you know, leaves a little to be desired. But there are a few guys that we got through. I agree. And you look at last year, you look at, okay, well,

there wasn't anybody earth shattering last year either. You know, you had Zion Johnson, you had Kenyon Green, right? Who's to say that this class can't be, maybe not, we're talking about, maybe we're not talking about like two top 20 picks, but guys that are picked in the top 50, right? I think they'll be considered there. And then the offense attack class we mentioned

has so much potential. The quarterbacks are definitely going to, once again, own the offensive side of the ball with all the players that we mentioned how they might be able to pan out you got guys like tyler van dyke guys like will levis guys like anthony richardson who have still so much that they can prove and they can get even better and improve their stock and that's outside of two guys who have already had really good tape and bryce young and cj stroud so fun year on the offensive side of the ball i'm excited to flip the page to get over to defense.

Before we get to that, of course, we've got a Mock Draft Monday episode for you. Are we doing the NFL Street idea? Yeah, let's fire away. Okay, all right. So one idea that we had at the beginning of the summer was we wanted to have a dueling draft against each other. Essentially, drafting NFL street style, meaning we're drafting 11 players and those 11 players have to play both sides of the football.

So that's how it's going to go. It's, I cannot wait for this one. There's so much strategy. There's going to be so much heat involved with every single pick because you got to be picking guys that you think can play on the offensive side on the defensive side like where are you drafting a quarterback where are you then playing them on defense what are you going to do here and there so we're gonna do the same thing we're gonna go back and forth drafts gonna be a lot of fun and then of course you guys

have to uh decide who wins for us on fourth of july nonetheless we we uh no we're not taking off we're not leaving you we got our vacations done on 4th of July. That episode will drop. It's going to be a really fun one. It's something you and I have actually discussed for months. You've been waiting to get to this one. Yeah, I really have. And I've done zero preparation for it, which is great.

You got time. Plenty of time. I'm sure somebody will make the teams in NFL Street, and they'll simulate it, and I'll lose for the third time in a row. I actually have NFL Street here at the at the house but it's only seven on seven so maybe we'll have to choose but uh we've had people who have been simulating the our drafts in madden which by the way somebody put our position groups into teams in madden. No, it's rigged. You got absolutely smoked, my guy. It was like 48 to 27.

Yeah, Josh Allen threw like seven picks. It was Madden 2019 or something like that. It's very interesting how there's never screenshots of box scores. Like when I lost and Jamar Chase wasn't in the box score on the under 25 teams. Very interesting. Yeah, okay, sure. We'll have to do that somehow to do that somehow some funky business is going on with these things so if i lose the nfl street simulation uh i'm out i quit so all right this is a wwe connor rogers i

quit match uh yeah oh there we go oh man wow good callback right there with the microphone that's oh i have one right here you gotta see you gotta see that you gotta you gotta sell like that Oh, there we go. Oh, man. Wow. Good callback right there. With the microphone. That's, oh. I have one right here. You got to sell it like that. All right. We will see you guys on Monday. It'll be a fun Mock Draft Monday episode.

Get ready for it. I'm Trevor. That's Connor. We'll see you guys then. Thank you.