NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 70. Dueling Team Drafts Using Every Round From 2020-2022

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers draft against one another to form the best starting 22-man rosters they can using every round of the 2020-2022 NFL Draft. The rules are, you have to pick one pla...yer from each round of each of the last three drafts with an extra wildcard draft pick at the very end.

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Starting point is 00:00:37 It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast in this episode we're getting right back to the mock draft Monday format we got a fun one for you Connor and I are going to go back and forth snake draft style drafting from every round of the 2020, 2021, and 2022 NFL draft. We can only select one player from each round,
Starting point is 00:01:10 but we've got to select at least one player from each round. Now, three times seven, that gets us to 21. So then we have an extra wild card pick at the very end of the draft. That'll get us to our starting 22s. And then you guys have to tell us who did better at drafting whose team would win on the field everything i'm trevor sycamore with me as always is connor rogers let's ring the bell welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers. Joining you guys on a mock draft Monday. Once again, we won't be expansion drafting this Monday, but I promise you guys it will be just as fun. I took last Thursday off, so it's been a week since you guys have heard our voice. Hopefully you guys didn't forget about us, but we have a very fun topic for you here today. We are mock drafting once again, and we are putting our scouting hats back on
Starting point is 00:02:10 because Connor and I are drafting, starting 22-man rosters using only the 2020, 2021, and 2022 drafts. We've got to draft one player from every round of each of those three drafts so seven times three connor gets us to 21 i don't know what we're gonna do with the extra player i don't know where we're gonna pull that from i was wondering when you said that to me i was like what do we do we didn't establish that in the pre-show maybe maybe we could just have a full
Starting point is 00:02:41 like like deuces are wild at the very end of the draft. After you have filled out your entire roster, then you get to once again pick from any of these three drafts, any round, and just make the team a little bit sweeter with the cherry on top. How does that sound? I think that's fair. We'll see how it goes. Somebody's going to end up, or we might both end up with our best players
Starting point is 00:03:01 from that pick or something because there's so much strategy at hand here. But that works for me. Yeah, you've got it. I am very curious because Ben Solak and I did an exercise very similar to this last year, but the strategy behind it, where do you go here? Do you pick the premium players that have already established themselves in the NFL to make your team look better?
Starting point is 00:03:22 Do you go with players in the later rounds? Because you know it's more scarce there, right? on the round we're not sure yet we're not exactly sure what either we have not discussed this at all whatsoever neither of us no we haven't we haven't talked about strategy we haven't we're not sharing a cheat sheet nothing like that so I could throw a curveball you you could throw a curveball at me the possibilities are endless for this format here. Yeah, they really are. I think that, you know, I made a little cheat sheet here.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I didn't get nearly in the weeds as we did for the expansion draft because we built that up as a two-week series. But this one, I have names for every round. And there's a few rounds I circled where I'm like, man, if I open this show, like, I'm not opening this show with a household name people are going to be really excited about. It's more strategy that, man, this, Trevor, the number one thing I always take away when we do these exercises
Starting point is 00:04:10 is that a lot of guys don't make it in the NFL. It's crazy when you go back to 2020, the NFL draft, the COVID NFL draft when everybody was home. That does not feel like it was that long ago. And when you go through the rounds you're like man some rounds have two NFL players that we would consider taking so this is it's sad to say that but it goes to show you as we evaluate over 300 players a year that the hit rate uh is so significantly low and this is a little friendly reminder of that
Starting point is 00:04:42 it is funny because you and I just we just got done with the 2022 nfl draft right and we're very excited about that we talked about halls for every single team in the weeks that followed that draft and we you and i because we scouted all these guys we're sitting here talking about guys like the fifth sixth seventh round and we're like oh i'm really excited about this player uh statistics show that they're probably not going to make it in the NFL. That's just the way that it is. It's the reality, and it goes to show you that even this exercise, it just goes to show you why teams don't value day three picks
Starting point is 00:05:17 the way you would expect anymore, because the hit rate of finding a starting caliber player, I'm not saying all pro, pro bowl, above average, good. I'm saying a starting caliber player is so significantly low. And this is going to be a little bit of a challenge with us. I'm curious, you know, people listening, if you want to follow along, the best way I did it, Trevor, and I'd be curious now, you did it. I had every single draft open on pro football reference,
Starting point is 00:05:43 wrote out a little tab on a note sheet for all three years with every single round and if a player was worth anything i wrote him down and then you go back and look at it and you go man there's certain rounds that like if i don't beat trevor to that pick yep i'm gonna have a player on my team that probably shouldn't be starting that's just the reality yep yep yep you say uh the teams don't value third round picks obviously except for the new england patriots who uh took a uh day three pick at number 29 overall this past year oh god zing i had to i had to get the shot in had to get the shot at the beginning of the show so here's the million dollar question my friend you picking first or you picking second because it's a snake
Starting point is 00:06:23 draft format so you go back to back. So you get two and three. You get to set the tone. You might get to steal a couple of players there. Or do you want that guy number one overall? What do you want? You want the back deck? I'll give you the floor.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I will give you the floor because I do have a strategy for each. And I'm not, you know, chomping at the bit where if I don't get one, I'll quit the show right now or the other. Honestly, neither are particularly exciting, but I would call them rather necessary. So I will give you the floor to choose here. Okay. All right. I'm going to go first here. And I'm more curious. Yeah, I want you to go first because I'm more curious how you're going to kick this thing off there are two players that i had in mind for a potential number one overall
Starting point is 00:07:11 one is very flashy okay the other one is not at all okay and i'm going with the not at all one okay can i guess yes you can guess. Is it from the 2021 draft? No. Okay, then I'm not going to go further because I don't want to give anything away. Okay, okay. Who are you? Hold on. I have my cheat sheet on my phone.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Who are you picking from? I'm not picking from the 2021 draft, but I was trying to get inside your brain and think if that's what you were doing, but I was wrong. No. See, we might have been starting with the same exact thing. I was going to start with 2020 if i had the first pick i'm taking michael and wayne who the the interior offensive lineman in the sixth round of the 2020 pick the 2020 nfl draft and look man i wanted to start this draft off go a little bit more flashy and when we named the player that i was thinking uh i will explain that it was
Starting point is 00:08:05 between these two guys but you look at this sixth round of the 2020 nfl draft i mean michael and wayne who's had some really nice years for the patriots i know last year wasn't as good but he's had some really nice years you know that he is a solidified can't start interior offensive lineman in the n. Who else we got? Yeah. Khalil Davis, who I like, but he hasn't proven anything. I like Jonathan Penasini coming in. I liked Antoine Brooks coming in,
Starting point is 00:08:33 but like neither of those guys have done much. Quez Watkins, I guess. The list just gets, it just gets extremely small after that. And there's just nobody. The scarcity of the sixth round in 2020 was so severe that I had to go with Michael and Wayne. So we're starting this draft off. We're kicking it off. I'm going on Wayne to help out my interior offensive line.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So I will get back there, that pick. Obviously, I'm going to wait a while because you already did it. There are two players that you didn't name that are okay. They're good enough to draft. You're right, though. It's one of the thinner ones. It was one that I considered starting with in this situation, but I would have went this way instead.
Starting point is 00:09:21 I'm going to kick things off in the same year the same draft year in round five one one round before i'm gonna take darnell mooney here oh all right okay okay okay so mooney brings some rare value being a fifth round wide receiver uh that already has a thousand yard season under his belt and i feel like that gives my offense a bit of a vertical threat here. And honestly, I'm going to be honest with you as much as I love Mooney, the player and all those things I said, they're nice.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You're going to be put to the challenge in that round after that. And there's options, but I just didn't see a player of Mooney's caliber even close in that area. There is one other player in that round that I, that I thought about, but Mooney that round that i that i thought about but mooney was one of those that definitely stands out there's definitely a scarcity within that round he wasn't who i was going to pick like within i think my first i will say three or four picks but he was
Starting point is 00:10:16 somebody who you can definitely get a steal this is a really fantastic player that you're getting on day three and that's kind of what this name of the game is all about here hopefully people aren't thinking that we're starting too boring here going with Michael and Wayne who in Darnell Moody to start, uh, how it goes, man. But look,
Starting point is 00:10:32 I'm trying to get the best of you. I gotta, I gotta think about what you're doing and we gotta go after some scarcity here. So you go Darnell movie to start here. Uh, who's, who's the next person you're.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That's right. I get the snake. Yeah. I forgot about that. So you get another one here. That's kind of nice, man. it gets really tricky it gets really really tricky just comes down to like where you uh where you want to make your strategy here right yeah so i am gonna go back it's really tough i'm gonna go back to wide receiver again because once again i'm trying
Starting point is 00:11:06 to get value i'm gonna look at the 2021 nfl draft and there's some good players in this round but this guy stood out to me i'm gonna take him on ross saint brown oh yeah yeah there it is that so those were positions where listen there's a ton of good wide receivers in the last three drafts i get that and plenty of them are honestly better than these two guys. As much as Mooney and Brown are two of the younger, more exciting value picks there. Once again, to remind the audience listening, this is about knocking out these rounds where you're trying to get the best possible player that are significantly better than other players. So I have two of my three wide receivers, and Darnell Mooney and Monros St. Brown,
Starting point is 00:11:47 both day three picks from their drafts. I think with my next two picks, I'm going to go two guys to cover you. I know at least my next pick here from the 2021 NFL draft, fifth round, we're going cornerback Nate Hobbs. Okay. This is a slot corner from Las Vegas Raiders played really, really well last year in his rookie season. It's funny because I'm taking the same exact position in the same exact
Starting point is 00:12:16 round in the same exact draft. Are you really? Yes, I am. Okay. So like now I can guess, I mean, I could spoil it because I'm not going to,
Starting point is 00:12:23 I'm going to take them for a while, but you can guess. He played really well last year as well and was a rookie starter from the fifth round in the slot all year. Is it Lenore from the Niners? No, it is Michael Carter from the Jets. Did I totally miss Michael Carter? Oh, yeah, there he is.
Starting point is 00:12:43 He might have because they took a Michael Carter the round before that. No no no he's right there he's right there i'm okay i'm good with my house pick yeah i wouldn't do that one early hobbs is a hobbs is a really good player um i had a backup plan though in that round damn so you would have been you would have been okay with that that's good uh oh this is where it's kind of tricky for me nate hobbs i feel like i feel like i didn't say too much about him played over 700 snaps as a rookie in the slot which i mean dude if people say i've had former players say this when i've talked to them y'all have heard me say it on the show before if you're starting at corner as a rookie it's like drinking it's like trying to drink water
Starting point is 00:13:23 through a fire hose you were just taking so much on at one time it's it's hard not to drown if you will there's so much information so much experience so many different wide receivers so many different offenses that you have to go up against as a rookie corner so not only is the speed of the game the strength of the game the size of the game all of that is above a level that where you were playing at in college there's so many other things that you're trying to take into account now put that in the slot when you don't even have the battle you don't even have the this sideline to like help you as an added defender it's two-way goes every single receiver you play and we've seen in the modern NFL sometimes wide receiver ones on the other team we've seen guys like Mike Evans Julio Jones those kinds of players play from the slot you're gonna tell me a
Starting point is 00:14:03 rookie slot cornerback is gonna have to guard those guys and play well well i think nate hobbs really did he had a really nice pff grade last year playing so many snaps so i had to make the nate hobbs pick their next uh selection i'm going with and going back to the 2020 nfl draft seventh round we're going safety cam curl here i feel like cam curl was the biggest standout of that uh of that group so gotta check the boxes with some of these later round guys i've got a sixth rounder i've got a fifth rounder and i've got a seventh rounder i feel like that's how you gotta attack these so i'm very happy getting those three here to start this draft no doubt about that i had cam curl obviously written down as the
Starting point is 00:14:38 highlight of that round get right um i think that's a really good pick i knew it was one you would be on top of because you pulled an excellent move in our expansion draft of swapping him in that allowed us to get Makai Becton as our swing tackle and get a young, ascending, very cheap player in curl at safety. So I knew in the back of my head, when you
Starting point is 00:14:58 do a podcast with someone two to three times a week, you start to learn their tendencies, their strategies, and players they're all over. So, okay, you're going to laugh at where I'm going with this, but this is part of the game. I am going in 2021 round seven. Well, okay, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me pull it up because I kind of want to follow along
Starting point is 00:15:17 and maybe want to guess. It's a deep cut. You're going 2021 seventh round? Seventh round. Think about how hard the seventh rounds are going to be on this show. Dude, seventh round seventh round think about how hard the seventh rounds are going to be on this show dude seventh round there is one guy that did play a lot last year and was kind of decent and fans of this team i think are gonna love him getting a shout out from this seventh round was it why hubert did he play a lot for the Bengals? I did not have him written down.
Starting point is 00:15:45 But you're on it. You're on the right track. Okay, who is it? Just tell me. It's Jonathan Cooper on the Broncos. Oh, Jonathan Cooper did play a decent amount last year. Cooper was a little bit of one of my sleepers that year. I never call a guy coming out of Ohio State a sleeper, but nobody really seemed to care about him,
Starting point is 00:16:07 which was weird to me because he played at Ohio State. He was a solid player. He had some tools off the edge, and he played about almost 500 snaps last year. He graded out very well against the run for a seventh-round rookie, and he was not a problem. When you have to start a seventh round or play a seventh round or about 500 snaps i think you expected to be much worse than what he showed i thought he was rock solid so that was a guy that i'm gonna be honest with you trevor i don't know who else i
Starting point is 00:16:38 would have taken in that round i generally there are some names to like. Yes, but there's there's not many solidified starters. Yeah. So that was kind of that was kind of a funny one where I was like, OK, this isn't really going to excite anybody. But I got to get somebody from that round. I got to do it. Got to make it happen. OK, so. Man, there's a couple of different directions I want to go here right now and i'm going with the very
Starting point is 00:17:05 not fun picks right now so i'm gonna go 2021 again okay and i am gonna go early earlier than i would like to at this point but i think this guy what round round two i think this guy will be the best player in his position, if not this year. There are people that will probably argue that he's pretty dang close already, which is unbelievable. Okay. I think you'll know this one. I mean, are you going with Javon Holland?
Starting point is 00:17:39 No, but he's one of three names I've written down, and you could make him an argument. All three can get to the top of their position really quickly. I was going to say, he's got to be up there. Yeah, it's one reason i wasn't gonna go to this round this early but i i didn't have a player at this position this oh creed's in this yep round yep okay yeah yeah creed humphries in this room yeah i needed a center um creed's just if people listening if you haven't really gotten a you know if you have a coach's tape and you want to see just a guy play so far above what his weight class of what a rookie center should do creed was you know i'm playing next to toonie does help but i don't care he was so so so good uh that i was i was gonna go one of the earlier rounds finally i've done a fourth
Starting point is 00:18:22 fifth and seventh round pick i finally dove into at least day two of the draft well we are uh i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna dive into day one of the draft with let's go with one of my next two picks here but it's not gonna be this first one for this first one i'm gonna go 2021 okay sixth round i feel like you know where i'm going 2021 sixth round pick yep yeah i did this is what i was guessing for you to open the show with it's trey smith the interior offensive lineman from the kansas city chiefs trey smith it i mean again same thing as michael and wayne you for you to get not just starter value but damn good playoff caliber type of piece starting starting offensive line value from a guy in the sixth round is wild uh that's one of the the first things that i look
Starting point is 00:19:13 at when i do kind of these exercises that are a lot of fun you look at the later rounds you go all right are there premium positions here that have been left that were diamonds in the rough that we know can already play in the n. There's a couple of offensive linemen. I'll say in the 2022 draft, the one that we just had that were later picks that I have my eye on because I like those guys, but they haven't played a snap in the NFL. So you're still projecting that even if you like those guys, not really a projection to Trey Smith,
Starting point is 00:19:38 who has already shown that he could be a fantastic interior offensive lineman in the NFL. So that's my uh sixth round pick in 2021 blanking that out really quick i hope you know i'm a little nervous about where you're gonna go in round one right now because there there is i'm gonna go around around one back to back with you i'm nervous i'm gonna get sniped right now actually hold on let me let me see let me let me not screw myself here let me not let me let me let me see let me let me not screw myself here let me not let me let me let me do myself a favor and not screw myself okay i can get by with this i can get by with this in the 2021 nfl draft oh boy
Starting point is 00:20:15 in the first round yep it's happening happening at number four overall the atlanta falcons selected kyle pitts they did and i'm and i'm going wow okay i'm going that was that was a scary call the uh okay was there i mean look the first round in that round yeah you can't go wrong with that i mean when you when you're comparing where you're scraping the bottom of the barrel in the six seven yeah rounds of these drafts when you look at the first round you go oh i don't even i don't even need to strategize here but i wanted to prioritize kyle pitts because when you look at the rest of the tight end group and i'm curious to see how you're going to attack this because there's a lot of different options that you can go with after kyle pitts but kyle pitts is very clearly in that tier one now I burn a first round pick here with him so there's a lot of good
Starting point is 00:21:05 players in that draft that I can't take but the rarity of that player at that position means a ton to me here you can't get it anywhere else you can't get in any other round whether it was first round or not so I'm going Kyle Pitts I'm gonna I'm gonna get him on the team is as my tight end here no it's a good you're making the positional argue value uh you know a value argument that makes a ton of sense right and i already freed from that draft so i can't even take fryer mooth tight end was one of those things that i knew oh yeah you can't take fryer move can't take fire mooth but tight ends one of those things where i'm just willing to new jersey say not you care about it's jeremy rucker come on down
Starting point is 00:21:46 hometown kid we're looking at serious serious value for tight end uh i still have there's actually like there is one option out there make sure i didn't burn from that yeah i want to write that in before i forget as i tend to do. I'm happy. Dude, I was sweating to start this draft. I'm actually pretty happy with my first five picks here. So I was going to go from that round. Now I'm going to wait because you already took from it. It wouldn't make sense. There is another position besides tight end that I was very afraid of value.
Starting point is 00:22:18 But we'll cross that bridge when we get there. All right. Let's get back into – so you did end up taking trey smith correct yep i took uh trey smith and then kyle pitts is my next pick okay i wanted to make sure i x him out this gets really tough it's gonna be so funny how we end this draft because you know how we're ending the draft right what by what do you mean how are we gonna end okay i hate to be the spoilers guy but i just think this is so funny i'm assuming that we're ending the draft by just picking between herbert
Starting point is 00:22:50 and burrow i mean because it's so like i don't care i don't care i was wondering if it was going to come down to that that was my that was my big thing that i was that i was double checking i already knew this in my mind but i was like triple quadruple checking in my mind that if i didn't that if i took kyle pitts i was still going to be able to take one of no i get it i totally get it justin herbert because i was nervous there because there's so many quarterbacks right because there was no way either of us were taking any quarterback from 2022 like we weren't going to leave ourselves in that position. So if I was taking Kyle Pitts, that means that every quarterback in 2021 now becomes unavailable to me.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So now, yes, I'm either going to have Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert. Yeah, the thing we were, you know, because even 2021, like you look at it and go, yeah, we love that class, but we still can't sit here and stare at everybody with a straight face and say, you know, this guy's going to be great they they all had really bad moments and they all flashes but you can look at burrow and herber and you're like they've all had great moments consistently incredible moments yeah incredible moments okay i'm gonna go back to um a very not fun hell yeah baby very not fun 2020 nfl draft pick in round three i want to make sure i cross that out so i do not forget there's a lot of things you need to keep up with during this
Starting point is 00:24:15 there are i'm gonna take jonah jackson at guard from the lions he's definitely on my list yeah pretty good round all could all together i mean there know, 2020, there's a handful of players that are starting caliber players, but the way he's graded out as a run blocker and what he's been able to provide for the Lions as a value pick and a starter, I felt pretty good about that and just liked him better than
Starting point is 00:24:38 pretty much every player in that round in terms of value of what you're getting. There's a couple other guys. I'm excited to see what you do when you get to that draft, but guard is definitely one where you're trying to you're trying to bargain shop a little bit yeah yeah you definitely are all right so jonah jackson and for those that want a little more info on him he's played uh a thousand snaps each of his first two nfl seasons so a really impressive start for a third rounder i think he
Starting point is 00:25:00 was okay as a rookie but i thought he took pretty significant strides his second year. For the Lions, that offensive line is an ascending unit and a really, really exciting unit. I think that's what Lions fans are looking forward to being the identity of their team. All right, now I'm going to do something that I didn't expect to do, but just looking at my roster right now, it's just sometimes you get, you know, urges when drafting that right now I'm lacking star talent, man. I don't know what else to say. It's a good team.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Good early roster considering I've used not a single first round pick, only one second round pick. Right. And that was on a center. You're stashing it. I'm going into 2020 okay i'm going into round two which was a pretty good round overall okay round two round two star power yeah star power okay who you going star power i'm taking jonathan taylor ah he's the best running
Starting point is 00:26:00 back in football uh you know obviously him in in a healthy derrick henry looking forward to seeing that this year but i just look at taylor and think you know i didn't even intend to do this because i i want to see how the board would fall i'm starting to build the classic smash mouth football team right now when you look at where some of my picks have been on the offensive line and i just need the guy behind it there's plenty of running backs that you could take on today's show, but there's nobody in the class, nobody even sniffing the same air as Jonathan Taylor that's available for
Starting point is 00:26:31 today's show. So I'm going to use the second rounder on him. Dude, now you can't even take Cole Komet. No, I do not care about tight end. I do not care. I know who I'm taking, but I definitely do not care. This player will not be on the field. I know I said I'll be a smash mouth football team, but i definitely do not care this player will not be on the field i know i said i'll be a smash mouth football team but still i do not care about tight end uh okay i'm gonna i'm gonna go back to being boring i gave i gave us the flash with uh with kyle pitts
Starting point is 00:26:55 there at the tight end spot i'm gonna round out the i'm gonna round out the bottom three picks of the 2021 nfl draft i going to go to the seventh round. I'm going to make sure that I had this name in the correct spot. Yeah, I think we're good here. Yeah. Kairis Tonga, the defensive tackle from BYU, plays for the Chicago Bears now. I'm going to pick him to play in the center of our defense.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Eddie Goldman retires, so Tonga's now got an opportunity to really secure his spot big beefy strong interior defensive lineman I think another year for him is going to show that he's got the strength he's got the body frame he's got the uh the ability and everything to be one of those kind of run stuffing big gap clogging to gapping players so we'll get the beef in there again we're looking it's a late round draft pick so you got to pick names that you're okay with that you're comfortable with and uh Kairis Tonga is somebody who I like pre-draft who that was that definitely stood out to me
Starting point is 00:27:58 right there so I'll go with him so we got five six and seven up in the 2021 draft man is there a seventh rounder in 2021 that i like i like that close out that ring too what about 2022 oh we haven't even touched 2022 yet oh no we haven't neither as a show no we as a. Because we are holding hope for all of those players. So it's so easy to draft and sell it. The other two drafts, you've seen them play, or they have not played at all. So it's a little bit more pressing. Man, I don't need to take this player here.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You already picked from that round. I was going to go fifth round of the 2020 draft, but you already picked Arnold Mooney, so I already know who my guy's going to be there. Maybe I should pick from 2022. Maybe I should go to the seventh rounder here. Kick it off. Let's make it.
Starting point is 00:28:55 There's a guy I really like. It was one of the most excited I've been for any round. This is round seven, 2022. Nobody's super standing out to me well caitlin mega fast yep but i already have nate hobbs in there so i'm not gonna play him on the outside all right it's down to two players for me it's down to britain brown who i like as a running back from ucla i really like him okay or bow melton the wide receiver from ruckers i had written him down that's a good one i think bow melton's who i have to go with here i think that that's the name that stands out to me the most
Starting point is 00:29:42 from this seventh round so we'll black out the seventh round, and let's get Bo Melton on the squad. Okay. Rutgers stand up, baby. Rutgers stand up, man. We got a Rutgers draft pick before we got a first-round draft pick in this exercise. Who would have thought? Actually, that's not true because he took Kyle Pitts, but still. That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I'm an idiot still for entertainment purposes yeah we're gonna keep we're gonna keep the quote in there all right we haven't gone to round three of 2021 so i'm gonna do that as you can tell everyone we're kind of just picking rounds to get in front of each other this one is part of the strategy so yeah it's absolutely part of the strategy this is someone who played a lot last year. I think had his ups and downs, but I have a need at corner right now. I have all three corner spots to fill.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Trevor, I think you've filled two already. No, you filled one. One, I got Hobbs. So I'm going to take Paulson Adebo. Ooh, he was definitely on my list. Yeah, it was somebody that I look at. Corner is very tricky in this exercise because it has become a position
Starting point is 00:30:47 that a lot of the guys, besides slot corners, I'm talking about starters on the outside, besides slots, the guys that get drafted early are the guys that end up pretty decent in the NFL level. And it's hard to get these value guys later on. So Adebo from round three, that is a round we had not touched yet. It was round three, 2021. round we had not touched yet it was round three 2021
Starting point is 00:31:05 also known as the davis mills round ah the davis of course the world renowned davis mills round how could we forget how could we forget all right so god we're complete idiots uh that's too good too good i'm trying to look at my roster and also make this decision at the same time. I'm looking at running back right now because you took Taylor and that was the obvious one. There are a couple of other running backs that you choose from that are even within that round. There are a lot of running backs that went into that draft there.
Starting point is 00:31:40 But I'm like, okay, is there another running back that really stands out? And there's not. No, there's not. It's why I never thought I would do that pick, but I looked around. I was like, ugh, is there another running back that really stands out? And there's not. No, there's not. It's why I never thought I would do that pick, but I looked around. I was like, ugh. No, you're right. Like, I forgot A.J. Dillon went in the second round. So I was like, in my head, I was like, A.J. Dillon's a fun pick.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I'll use him at one point. Then I'm like, wait a minute. No. Couldn't even take him. No, you couldn't. No, he's in the second round. So, all right. I believe, am I up again? We got so off yes yeah you're okay okay i'm up again um i am going to i want to check something real quick you're allowed to do that thank you sir what a guy what a guy i'm out here i'm out here sir i'm out here scouring the sixth round of the 2022 nfl
Starting point is 00:32:26 draft so i am i am going in here i'm gonna put punt god at linebacker so i also have a punter i i am going in the fifth round of the 2022 nfl draft oh so you're all right okay so you were close to where i was i'm taking darian Kennard for my last interior offensive line spot. Yeah. There was one other player I liked in that round, but not a lot, to be honest with you. Not a lot. He's the big one that stands out.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I definitely had him on my list. He is certainly the one. Who else do I have on here? Yeah, I mean, Kahlil Shakir is in this round. John Ridgway? Tariq Woolen is in this round. ridgeway tariq woolens in this round yeah i mean like john ridgeway is good if you know if i hope i don't have to pick john that's the thing you don't like that's what i said in my head i'm like wait a minute why am i excited about john ridgeway all respect all respect to the vanilla yes no he'll be fine but like these are starters
Starting point is 00:33:23 on our tabs right now and i was going to take him like originally i'm like wait a second what am i doing i know there was a time where we thought canard would go in the second round so yeah i mean i mean that time was up until draft day basically god do i need to just burn a running back spot on one of these later i mean let's i already made my pick so let's talk through this one together i'm trying to think who you're considering right now the fifth round are you saying the fifth round no i'm not i have no idea where you're looking you just said you want to talk about her oh you're saying from that fifth round well i'm just saying I'm just saying I'm looking at 2022 right now.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Okay. I'm trying to give myself the most flexibility here. Yeah, the problem is, like, it wasn't a great running back year, and Brees went in the second round. Spiller went in the third. There was somebody you really liked. Why is it slipping my mind? I feel like you liked more than most people
Starting point is 00:34:25 am i making this up i might be making this at running back yeah why am i thinking that you like kyron oh yeah who went who went the fifth round it's a good point kyron went really late i thought he yeah interesting i could take kyron you could take kyron and that saves you from a not so great round uh yes that was the round i just picked from what canard You could take Kyron, and that saves you from a not-so-great round. Yes, that was the round I just picked from with Kennard. I'm looking in the sixth right now. You're in the sixth, okay. There are two players in the sixth round that I love.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Like, I am always letting you take that round first because I do not care which one I get. Okay, is one of them Jamari Sawyer? Of course. Ofyer? Of course. Of course. Keep in mind that I would now have to play him at tackle, which he did a good job of at Georgia, but he's going to be a guard. So would I, because I already have my two interior offensive linemen.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Wow, we really screwed that one up. Yeah. And I know who I'm taking in that round. I like Darian Beavers. He's in this round. There's actually, I lie, there's not just two. There's quite a few players that... I like Amari Barno in this round.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Yep. Barno had the nuts combine, right? Yeah, just absolute bananas. I have to look this up. This might just make it for me. One, yeah. i have to i have to look this up this might this might just make it for me one gap no one gap defensive end versus one gap defensive ends six four two forty six four didn't he run like a four four brother he ran four three six so stupid it's so stupid because his tape was kind of like whatever, but then you look at the testing and you're like, what?
Starting point is 00:36:07 That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I'd move him to tight end. I'm not joking. You're going to pick him and play him at tight end? Not in this exercise, but in real life. He's 6'6", 245, and he runs in the 4-3s.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Do I just draft him? He's like what people wanted lebron to be if he played football that's true too four three six insane man i want to pick darian beavers i just like him then take him i just love them as a prospect nobody's gonna pull this up a year later and be like, hey, idiots, this is your draft of July. But Tyler Beatty's also in this. And I like Tyler Beatty. Yep. All right, I'll go Darian Beavers. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Leadership, baby. Experience. Snaps. Winning culture. Lunch pail guy. Brings his hard hat to class. I have no idea if that's true, but I gonna go to beavers all right i think you have another pick don't you uh yeah i'm back to back right absolutely okay let me block this out hold on hold on hold on hold on
Starting point is 00:37:17 i don't really have the draft for the fifth all right let's go oh I don't really have the draft for the fifth. All right, let's go. Ooh. AJ Terrell. Nice. From the first round of the 2020 NFL draft. Because you reminded me that I'm guaranteed to get one of Joe Burrow or Justin Herbert as my last wildcard pick of this draft I'm gonna I'm gonna take I'm gonna take that uh to pick one of the best corners in football in aging good point
Starting point is 00:37:51 so we so we can dive into that draft correct correct because for our last pick where it's just gonna be a wildcard one and you're gonna be able to pick any player any round but it has to be your last pick it has to be your last pick interesting yeah so i mean like essentially for me now i'm not gonna pick quarterback until the end because i also don't care who i get between burrow and justin herbert this got really interesting okay yeah it did so i'm gonna take I'm going to go into that round as well. Okay. And I think it's, yeah, we gave it away.
Starting point is 00:38:28 What the wild cards are going to be. There's so many good players in this. Yeah. I'm going to take Justin Jefferson. That's my last wide receiver. I mean, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I'm a sucker for star skill talent. I mean, you got Kyle Pitts, so I got to have some kind of area of attack here. All right, so that was round one, 2020. We went back to back. Let's get back into
Starting point is 00:38:53 2020 round four. Neither of us have touched, which is interesting to me. I want to look into that round. Not great, to be honest. Not the best.'re the worst not the best you have not the best actually there is one player that might solve a huge issue for me right now which is very funny i mean not i wouldn't really know darian can, you son of a gun. I can't believe that's the pick you're mad about.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Well, it's just because I'm scrolling, and it's like, what other offensive tackle am I picking? You know? Yeah. I know. I know. It's annoying. Especially since I just picked AJ Terrell,
Starting point is 00:39:39 so I can't pick... You're not picking... I can't pick... You know what? I'm not going to say the name. I'm not going to say it. I think I know where I'm going. Just realize you're in a different draft. I know where I'm going for my round four 2020.
Starting point is 00:40:00 That does solve... Are you going to pick Jalen Mayfield, the only guy to score a 0.0 in PFF history in one game? No. I already have the interior offensive line set up and i'm not yeah i could i could if we could draft the worst possible teams uh no he did he did figure it out down the stretch after that going viral for that i remember a little funny side story was I remember when he had that then the Jets were supposed to we're playing the Falcons in London and the Jets D line had been a little bit of a funk and I was like oh man this is gonna get Quinn and Williams and like everybody going Jalen Mayfield's just gonna be like dog food for all these guys and the Jets lost the Falcons in
Starting point is 00:40:39 London did nothing pass rush did nothing so that's what I always think of when I think of the classic 0.0. Good times. Anyways. Okay, so round four, 2020, I'm finally solving tight end. I am taking Albert Okuwebunum. Okay, close enough. From the Denver Broncos. Give it to you.
Starting point is 00:40:58 It was not terrible, right? No, it was not bad. Pro Football Reference just has him as Albert O. Wow, cowards. Well, yeah, they do write out the name, but then they put in parentheses for, you know, for podcasters, Albert O. Albert O caught two touchdowns last year.
Starting point is 00:41:13 He did catch 33 passes for 330 yards. That's a funny stat line. He is a pretty big dude that I think is developing as a blocker. So as bad as tightan was looking for me this wasn't the worst way to go especially when i looked at that round 2020 round four trevor uh good luck out there although i do know one player i know what you're gonna do i couldn't do it i already had the position full wait you you know i'm gonna going to do with what? That I... Round 4, 2020,
Starting point is 00:41:46 I was kind of just taking a crap on it, but there's a good player in there that makes sense for your roster right now. Round 4, 2020. Yeah. I still have to make a second pick in a row, but when you get there, I think you'll find him.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I think, unless I wrote down... Mmm. Right... Mmm. Right? Mmm. Yeah. You're welcome. Old Gabe Davis? Yep. Gabe Davis just sitting there. Old Gabe Davis. I have him written
Starting point is 00:42:18 down, so you didn't tell. No, I figured. We talk about him a lot on this show. He's a good football player. He is good i gave davis offense is fun decently high going into that draft um yeah was good in college for ucf yeah all right okay 2022 we have both not touched rounds one through four so i will dive into there. I am going to take... Offensive tackle gets so rough. Oh, brutal.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I have that thankfully figured out. That was the only thing that I planned for. You have it figured out? Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. Well, what happens if I steal Iki Ikuonu right from under your nose, Connor? What am I going to do then? Then I'll take Evan Neal.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Wow. Trust me. It's fail-proof. The plan I have. What if I ban the rules and then I just take both? What are you going to do then? What are you going to do? Then I lose. Fight me from New York? I lose the podcast. Oh, man. Alright. Round
Starting point is 00:43:21 three. 2022. I am taking a fella named N'Kobe Dean God it's a good pick God it's a good pick you love to see that one we haven't taken a linebacker on today's show right oh you took Beavers
Starting point is 00:43:39 yeah I took Darian yeah I did yeah it's a fun one i did do that all right you're up don't tell me i'd live my life i'm gonna go charles cross from the first round of the 2022 nfl draft i'm gonna go with charles cross over icky and neil yeah I mean I didn't take either of them after threatening to take both of them right I mean I had look I've got to stay true
Starting point is 00:44:09 to my rankings I had Charles Cross's OT1 so like it's if if I had my pick of all those guys I I've got to pick Charles Cross love the ability he has in pass protection I thought he just looked so calm so in control so poised so technically sound for an offense that just passed the ball so much that coming in the nfl it just it makes so much sense to to pick and prioritize the guy who already has a really good understanding of pass blocking so i'll go charles cross right there okay i have my eyes on another player to round out the offensive line looking up a pff grade hold on stick with me okay i'm gonna go i'm gonna go sam cosme
Starting point is 00:45:00 okay the second round of 2021 i didn't pick either of those yet right no no i don't think so second round okay i'm blacked out over there and then the first round of the 2022 draft so bookend tackles i've got charles cross sam cosme i can live with this I was panicking for a second there you were it sounded like it where I was gonna go I was looking at I was looking at Brady Christensen and Matt Rule was sitting here in the back of my head like he's got short arms and so I just didn't know what I was gonna do for a second and uh I'm okay with this we we managed Sam Cosme Charles Cross to go along with Michael and Waynew and Trey Smith. You got through it. And that's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:45:46 We made it through. We made it through. All right. So we have not gone into round four of 2022. I will gladly do that because you drafted Kyrus Tonga at D-Tackle. I don't have a D-Tackle. So I'm going to get some beef here and take Neil Farrell Jr. Ooh, that is beef the yeah that that round
Starting point is 00:46:07 was actually we say this now because these guys haven't played and things will not go as we hope because that's life um and you know obviously the paragon winfrey was in that round i'm going with more of a space eater instead and neil farrell jr who went to the Raiders, which I think is a really nice fit. So that is round four, 2022. I think the only round, Trevor, that neither of us have touched is round two in 2022. This is true. Yep.
Starting point is 00:46:36 This is true. Yeah, we've done a good job. Because this is where all bets are off, if you will. Once both of us have touched all of the rounds one way or the other, it's free reign. We're basically picking whoever we want at that point. Exactly. So are you doing it?
Starting point is 00:46:53 Are you taking somebody from second? I'm going to go there. Yeah, it makes sense, right? Go there. Yeah, we're going there. All right, round two, 2022 draft. You all should be very familiar with if you listen to this podcast. Man, I was torn between two guys, but I'm going arnold eva katie here yeah okay all right i mean i need
Starting point is 00:47:11 pass rush out because i i went super value on that with jonathan cooper around seven player so i'm gonna go with arnold eva katie who went to the falcons now i have both my edge players and he's somebody that i think is gonna do a lot of damage in the nfl i'm excited to watch him falcons need pass rush help badly i'm excited to see what him and d'angelo malone could do together all right so now that we're just kind of checking boxes yeah third round of the 2022 nfl draft i'll go with a fan favorite of mine i'm gonna pick dylan par, the interior offensive lineman from Memphis, who, what pick did he go officially? Dylan Parham was, he's a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Went to the Raiders, picked 90. 90 is where he went. They have him listed as a guard, but he has played, I get to talk with him a little bit at the Senior Bowl. He has played every single position on the offensive line. He's played guard. He's played center.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And something I love about him is he told me he was a tight end coming into college, going to Memphis. I love when former tight ends throw on some weight, get on the little Caesars hot and ready diet and just play on the, on the offensive line. You've got natural athleticism. You've got a good understanding of spacing. You've already played a position. That kind of asked you to be further down the field away from the trenches you just you have a much better holistic understanding i think
Starting point is 00:48:32 of what you're supposed to do in relation to what's going on around you and i think the dylan params are really smart great offensive linemen so a little bit of a risk here picking a player who has not played a snap yet but i've've got faith in him. I think that he'll hold up pretty well. So I'll go Dylan Parham on the interior offensive line. And the other player that I was thinking of was Quinn Miners. That would have been round three of 2021. I still have that open.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I could have gone with that, but yeah. I'm okay with this. I like Barham there. All right. What else do I want to go with here? Let's see my team. Right now, we've got no running back, one wide receiver, and it's Bo Melton.
Starting point is 00:49:20 We got the offensive line figured out there. That's pretty funny. We're getting value there. Building the passing attacker on bow melton offensive line is very solid pass rushers all right second round of 2020 we got any pass rushers we got anybody standing out who we got here i'm looking at 2020 second round and there's two guys that are really standing out to me.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Trayvon Diggs and Antoine Winfield Jr. Yep. I have the ability to fill both of those spots there. Is there another safety? Where was Javon Holland drafted second round of 2021 I've already taken a place that spot yeah so I think I've got to go with Antoine Winfield Jr. unless there's a safety second round of 2022 that I like yeah Jaquan Bris, but he's not Antoine Winfield Jr., man. It's tough. I got to go with Antoine Winfield Jr.
Starting point is 00:50:34 He's, yeah, I'm going with Antoine Winfield Jr. Buccaneer, great. Him next to Cam Curl. I just think the value is too good there for him. There's not another real heavy impact safety that i think i would rather go with so we'll go with antoine all right 2022 round six we talked about jamari sellier being a guy we really liked in that round earlier but we both addressed interior offensive line i'm gonna take malcolm rodriguez in this
Starting point is 00:51:01 spot okay so that was yeah that was the guy that you were thinking of. Yep. So I have two rookie linebackers, N'Kobe Dean, Malcolm Rodriguez. I thought Dean was a first-round player. I thought Rodriguez was a fringe second-round player. So I value these guys, obviously, a lot differently than the league, and I'm happy to get both of them for the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I'll keep this next one real simple. 2021, round one. Okay. Who are we going with? Who are we going with? simple. 2021 round one. Okay. Who are we going with? Who are we going with? Who are we going with? What a round it was. Truly.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah. This is pretty special stuff here. You took Kyle Pitts. Obviously, this is a round filled with the likes of Jamar Chase, Micah Parsons, players like that. I'm going to take Rashawn Slater. This was part of my tackle strategy solid yeah i think it's hard to get a player like him at that spot yeah so i was pretty your offensive line's
Starting point is 00:51:52 good that's that's how i built this one uh so rashaun slater 2021 round one pick we yeah the guy doesn't really need much analysis everybody knows and you're gonna get yeah and you're gonna get icky right that would be correct my friend, so that offensive line, Slater, Icky, Jonah Jackson, Creed Humphrey, Darian Kennard. That's a really good offensive line. Yeah, you might have me beat on offensive line, which I did not. Well, I invested all my priority. Well, I had my guys filled out before you did.
Starting point is 00:52:22 That's true. I mean, yours is really good. You have on Waynew. You have Trey Smith was the best sixth sixth round value we've seen in a while i i'm with you i think parham is going to be a real nice player oh you have charles cross yeah all right so the fifth round you went with darnell mooney the other player in the fifth round of um oh shoot i forgot to say what year it was bad podcasting 2020 so you went with darnell mooney the other player in the fifth round of um whoa shoot i forgot to say what year it was bad podcasting 2020 so you went with darnell mooney and when you picked mooney that meant that there was really only one other player that i was going to go with here and that was trevis gibson the pass rusher from place for the chicago bears london dynasty member lond a a member of the
Starting point is 00:53:00 london dynasty least we forget which we could never so i'll go trevis gibson it'll put there and then that is the fifth round of 2021 that i have crossed out um might as well go with gabe davis right there's nobody else we know it's coming right i'm picking out in this round this is good as to gabe davis you got alberto nah gabe davis is the man so go gabe davis that's the fourth round of the 2020 draft for me so i'm blocking that off as well bo melton and gabe davis just go deep baby that's all it is I better somehow get Justin Herbert or Burrow's gonna have to basically stretch his arm strength every throw to get the ball yeah Gabe Davis and Bo Melton vertical only four verts what was Bo Melton's 40 was it good
Starting point is 00:54:01 yeah I think he ran 439 he ran 434 yeah baby yeah he could fly just get him the ball burrow Bo's good player Rutgers had their problems on offense as we know Bo's a really good player he was definitely a shining star in that group for sure was that both your picks yep yeah all right Gibson and Gabe Davis I gotta get a safety here uh this is good value. 2020. Any safety would help. 2020 NFL Draft round six. This is where you took Michael Onwenu.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I am taking Super Bowl champion Jordan Fuller to play a safety spot. That's a really good pick. Yeah, he's been, you know, a guy that quietly... I'm not going to lie. I missed him.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I missed on him. Yeah, but you took a great player in that round. I did. I did. But I missed on Jordan Fullerordan for he was not on my list he should have been on my list yeah over a thousand snaps last year uh really effective run defender and tackler uh super bowl champion and still only 24 years old so jordan fuller i finally get a safety that second spot's not gonna be easy to fill. So that was round six from 2020. We are hammering away at 2020.
Starting point is 00:55:08 2020 is almost done. I want to see what my options were at round seven. I'm going to revisit that. I think I have an idea, but it's not really overly exciting. Okay. I might as well get the Icky pick out of the way here.
Starting point is 00:55:24 It's between Icky and Evan Neal. I wrote Hutch down as well as an option there, but I went a different route with Edge. So 2022 round one, my pick is going to be Icky, Aquanu to play an offensive tackle across from Rashawn Slater. Pretty good tackle group.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Indeed. I'm looking at the third round of, man, you taking Paulson adibo from me that was a strategy pick i don't love adibo the player but it was a strategy pick that was definitely it i mean it was a strong strategy pick oh ali mcneil is here there you go yeah i could go i could go with a little i still need another d tackle slim mcneil nico coll Collins ain't bad But man I want my wide receiver room to be better than that
Starting point is 00:56:08 We'll go Alright so 2021 Third round I'll go Aleem McNeil 2021 third round We'll black this out Aleem McNeil Playing next to Kyrie St tonga we just got beef baby like it's just
Starting point is 00:56:28 there's no other way around it it's just straight beef oh there's some nice pass rushers that we have in round three of 2020 yes i'm basically sitting here deciding between john grunard and alex highsmith not bad not i forgot about highsmith yeah he's your guy what do you mean i know i know who did i take that was round three 2020 yeah who'd you take instead let's take a gander probably somebody awesome i'm looking at the psts if you do say so yourself i think you gotta go with john grenard i think i took jonah jackson you did you did yeah i wanted i liked his value accord i'm gonna go i'm gonna go john grenard here over over alex highsmith eight sacks last year almost an elite pass rush pff grade and of course least you forget
Starting point is 00:57:28 gator great so cannot forget that yeah so john grenard travis gibson kairi stonga ali mcneil young young guys i think on the ascension i'm i'm okay with this i'm okay with this i like getting i like getting gibson and grenard iard. I'm pretty happy with that as some non-top 50 pass rushers, which we don't see a lot of those guys really get to stand out in the NFL. I'm pretty happy with that. So I'm good with it. This is going to get real messy here. Is it?
Starting point is 00:57:58 I mean. We are to the point where you've've gotta start square peg in a round hole right with just positions that you have left and then round yeah i've left so this is definitely going to be very interesting i've known one pick for a long time uh round seven 2022 i am taking monteric, the corner from Arkansas. Okay. I really liked him a lot. I graded him much higher than a seventh round pick.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And he has ball skills. He can play on the outside. So he was somebody I knew I was going to start a corner. Him and Adibo were strategy picks. I really like those players in those rounds. This is where it gets really tricky, Trevor. Besides the obvious quarterback situation, I need another D tackle.
Starting point is 00:58:47 It's going to be bad. Let's just call it what it is. I need another corner, which is fine. And I need a safety, which is going to be not so good. I have the seventh round from 2020 available, which I could take Dane Jackson from the Bills, which would be fine. Yeah.son from the bills which would be fine yeah that's that's fine if that's if that's one of the if that's one of the routes i have to go a corner i have no problem with that um because think about where we are i also have round five
Starting point is 00:59:18 from 2021 which i have currently just been looking up, up and down, over and over. Waiting for a player to appear. Somebody to stand out. Well, I really like Michael Carter on the Jets, but I'm not going to play him at safety if I take Dane Jackson. I think I like Michael Carter better than Dane Jackson. So that's a problem. Somebody speak to me.
Starting point is 00:59:44 And then I have, oh, i just did round seven from 2022 so i've round six from 2021 as well oh man i'm literally just looking for a player i'm looking for a player to appear and there are fine players in this trap but not where i need them is what i would say right right is the overall point is where there's a huge problem right here so i'm gonna take the player that i like the best and that's michael carter fifth round pick 2021 and then i'm gonna pass the torch to you before my final two picks uh so michael carter is my slot corner.
Starting point is 01:00:26 With the way things are going, he did play safety in college. He might be going back there if I can't find someone real soon. Okay, second round of 2022. I'm going to finish out my cornerback group with Kyler Gordon. So that means my corners are AJ Terrell, Kyler Gordon, Nate Hobbs,
Starting point is 01:00:42 and my safeties are Cam Curl and Antoine Winfield Jr. I have a way better secondary than I thought I was going to get out with this group. And then from the fourth round of that draft, my guy, you know him, you love him, Damian Pierce, Florida Gator. Yep. I decided to go with him over,
Starting point is 01:01:01 well, actually, is there somebody in the fourth round that i need to pick here is there like a linebacker a steal is there oh brandon smith this year but i didn't love brandon smith uh kobe bryan but i don't need him don't need defensive line the only other pick that i would need is a linebacker at that point now i'm good with it i'm good with it give me damian pierce give me damian pierce in the fourth round fifth and fourth okay we're good we are good to go so damian pierce was my pick there and then the one before him was kyler gordon so i got my second rounder and my fourth rounder whoa we're bottom of the barrel
Starting point is 01:01:40 now boys yeah this is this is not good. There's no way around it. Not good. Was that both your picks? Yeah, it was. I think I messed up here because I have three. Yeah, but I've been staring at the sheet and I'm like, why do you have so many picks available? I think you forgot to slot something at some point.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I did. Which is problematic. Whom? You're going to have to figure that out at some point. Oh, no. 2021 round six. All right, fifth round of 2020. Did I pick anybody from here?
Starting point is 01:02:17 Travis Gibson. Okay, there we go. There we go. I just didn't black that one out. There we go. That's it. Now we're good. That was absolutely it.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Right? Now we're good. Yep. Because I have linebacker left left and i have one wide receiver spot left uh and then we're obviously gonna pick quarterbacks at the end man give me a diamond in the rough wide receiver baby show them to me that's possible though yeah i know we i mean you've you've done that man it's funny the players you start looking out to see how much they played. I'm like, how much did Jacoby Stevens play last year? 44 snaps.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Okay, great. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for that, guys. I really appreciate it. It's a big help. Thank you so much. Oh, my God. I don't even have, I don't even, I did it.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I did it, fellas. I did it. We did it. We did it. We're out here. Ladies and gentlemen, we did it. I did it, fellas. I did it. We did it. We did it. We're out here. Ladies and gentlemen, we did it. You found it. I found a singular good player.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yes. Okay. From one of the rounds that I need. Can I get a wide? Okay. And now I got a wide receiver. We're good. Well, I'm going to do what I threatened to do.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I am moving. I am moving Michael Carter. Michael Carter is going back to safety. what i threatened to do i am moving i am moving michael carter michael carter's michael carter's going back to safety and dane jackson is playing corner for me because i need a round seven pick from 2020. trying to build a good team um trying to loophole the exercises we always do on the show and now i need a player from this is hilarious this is hilarious i need a player from the 2021 nfl draft from round six that has to play defensive tackle wait well okay what round is this round six oh There was a lot of D tackles drafted in that round. I know Bohanna was not very good for the Cowboys last year.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Marlon took below two? All right. That's who I was going to say. You have him, Jalen Twyman. Jalen Twyman, baby. Who could forget him? Couldn't be me. This is very funny right now it's also an elite elite name buffalo bills cornerback rashad wild goose yep who's just
Starting point is 01:04:34 been on the jets practice squad i think for a year oh nice now you have a you have long snapper from alabama thomas fletcher you can throw some beef tackle with him at d tackle dude i might be playing quincey roche long snapper named cameron cheeseman this is a fake name somebody edited there's a lot of fake there's a lot of fake names on here this is a fake name yeah i think you're kind of screwed here no i think i think i found oh my god i did it i found my defensive tackle who who'd you get you played a lot last year who what tell me what you know about sixth round 2021 pick roy lopez on the houston texans who played 502 snaps last year wow what do you know about roy lopez what do you know about what's the pff grade
Starting point is 01:05:26 a 55.7 look that's not it's not bad it's not unplayably bad dude think about how bad that team was so he was on a horrible team which is probably why he played a lot, but I don't care. Roy Lopez, I cannot believe, I'm so happy. Roy Lopez, come on down. Okay, I did it. I found the sixth round pick from 2021. That is not a traffic cone. Congratulations. I'm getting a Roy Lopez.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I'm getting a Roy Lopez Texans jersey. If Roy Lopez finishes with a PFF grade above 60. Okay, I was going to say 60. You guys are hard graders. All right, if he finishes with a PFF grade above 60. He's not verified on Twitter. Of sex. It's actually.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Oh, my God. Verify Roy Lopez. This guy rocks. Hashtag, please. I need the sex addicts to get in on this. Mobilize. Okay? Yes, mobilize.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Hashtag, get Roy Lopez verified on Twitter. If he finishes with a PFF grade above 60, Connor might have to buy a Roy Lopez shirt. If the sex addicts get Roy Lopez verified, I will get a Roy Lopez tattoo across your entire back. Dude. It's just him holding the point of attack
Starting point is 01:06:49 with two offensive linemen right in front of him and he's just peering into the backfield. Dude, great player aesthetic. He's got every finger double taped. No way.
Starting point is 01:06:59 He's got a sleeve. I think it's tribal. No way. He's got long hair. And he wears number 91, which is pretty good for a sixth round ready tackle number this guy's awesome what a fine i just i can't believe it what a fine well i'm gonna anticlimactically end this one i have the 2021 fourth round available
Starting point is 01:07:19 in a linebacker spot um derrick barnesbacker from Purdue who now plays at uh with the Detroit Lions who I absolutely loved in the pre-draft process so getting him on the squad very happy with that and then the last spot's a wide receiver spot the 2022 NFL draft the fifth round we've got Kholoshek here so I'm gonna put uh Kholoshek here one of my favorite guys in that I was gonna say that was one of your guys yeah as well This is quite the cast of characters here. It's incredible. I just went back-to-back, so technically you now have the first wild card selection,
Starting point is 01:07:54 so you can basically pick any quarterback because neither of us have picked a quarterback. Essentially, actually, I don't want to rule it out. If you want to pick a 2021 quarterback, you can go ahead and do that. Sure, I could. Who are you taking? Who are you taking here?
Starting point is 01:08:07 Well, I'm looking at my roster. Any round available. Any round available. I'm going to take Justin Herbert. Okay. And I know I've said before that I would put Burrow ahead of him right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Obviously, I think it's... I'm looking at my roster, though. I do want... I like Herbert's vertical talent for Mooney. That's what it came down to. Sure. And I really like Herbert's mobility as well. Just for this roster, yeah, I'm going with Herbert.
Starting point is 01:08:34 This is hilarious because you read it and it's like, superstar, functional player. Who the hell is that? Superstar, functional player. I cannot wait for Roy Lopez to be verified. Dude, I can't. I can't as well. My team, I got Joe Burrow at quarterback,
Starting point is 01:08:51 Damian Pierce at running back, Kelo Shakir, Gabe Davis, Bo Melton at wide receiver. I got Kyle Pitts at tight end. Please, when you guys judge these teams, all I'm asking is that you don't gloss over the fact that I have Kyle Pitts and Connor has Albert freaking Obe Guignam, okay? Like, do not just go, oh, yeah, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:16 So you're an Albert O. hater. I'm not an Albert O. hater. I'm just trying to defend myself because I prioritized the Kyle Pitts selection, and I did so smartly. Offensive tackles, I've got Charles Cross. I've got Sam Cosme interior offensive line we got proven Mike and we've got proven Trey Smith and we've got the versatile former tight end playing center Dylan Parham on defense we got the youngsters that are coming up John Grenard Travis Gibson played edge Kyrie Stonga and Aline McNeil on the interior. Derek Barnes, Darian Beavers, the absolute leadership
Starting point is 01:09:45 in the middle of that defense. You'll love to see it. Secondary, this is where our bread and butter is. AJ Terrell, Kyler Gordon, Nate Hobbs, Cam Curl, and Antoine Winfield Jr. That's the squad. I just want to make it clear on this podcast. This is a pro football-focused podcast,
Starting point is 01:09:59 so what matters most is the grades. And Albert O's rookie season grade was an 83.2. Kyle Pitts was an 80.3. I just want to make that clear before I read my roster. All right, quarterback Justin Herbert, running back Jonathan Taylor. Those guys are pretty good players. Wide receivers Darnell Mooney, Amon Ross St. Brown, and a fellow named Justin Jefferson.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Tight end, the illustrious Albert O. Offensive tackles, Rashaun Slater and Icky Iquanu. Interior offensive line, Jonah Jackson and Darren Canard at guard. Creed Humphrey at center. Defensive line, we are looking like an expansion team on defense at times.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Jonathan Cooper and Arnold Ibiketti screaming off the edge Screaming off the edge The beef in the middle Neil Farrell Jr. and Roy Lopez Linebackers N'Kobe Dean and Malcolm Rodriguez Corners Paulson Adibo, Monteric Brown, Dane Jackson
Starting point is 01:11:00 Safeties Jordan Fuller and Michael Carter We're going to score a lot of points what an exercise baby all right you guys know what to do you gotta tell us who's whose squad would win uh who whose team that you would you would rather have that was a lot of fun buddy i know that we were sweating i probably got pit stains underneath where the camera i was doing here yeah we're just we just absolutely i've got the fan on behind me but I'm still just sweating my ass off in this exercise, trying to not look like an idiot. But we did it.
Starting point is 01:11:28 We made it through. That was a lot of fun. It was not easy. And I prepared for this. Like, if everything, the walls cave in, what am I going to do? And I still didn't have solutions for multiple things. But Roy Lopez saved the day.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yep. You know, I feel good about the offense. This is fun. This is really fun. It got so fun at the end. Of course. At the beginning, I was like, okay, I feel good about this. But the last three picks, I was like, oh, my God, what did I do?
Starting point is 01:11:57 What did I do? Hey, but you know what? Without this exercise, we would have never found Roy Lopez. Hashtag get Roy Lopez verified. Get him verified. That is the creed of this podcast from this point on. Yeah, he's at Roy Lopez underscore. He's not verified.
Starting point is 01:12:16 We got to get the underscore off of that for our guys. Yeah, he's just got to. Somebody at Twitter, contact us. Help out Roy Lopez. Get the underscore off there. He posted a picture, and he has a cutoff on uh and it just says badass mexican he's he's jacked really jacked so yeah that was never in question of all the things that we were questioning that part was never going to be in question yeah
Starting point is 01:12:40 he's awesome so what an extra this is fun man i mean it goes to show you you really do deep dive and find a player from every single round no matter what that you didn't realize i'll be the first to say you don't realize they're starting in the nfl for somebody so at all seriousness it is this is why we do this we like we do it to have fun laughs uh see whose roster would square up against whose but at the the end of the day, like the informational aspect of this is truly fascinating. It was honestly, that's why these exercises are a lot of fun. Hopefully you guys had fun listening to us sweat through the microphones, selecting these two teams.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Again, let us know whose team you think was better, who did a better job drafting, whose team would win on the field. Those, those questions or those answers could be different. So let us know. Appreciate you guys listening.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Next time you hear our voices, it's going to be Thursday edition of the podcast, which means summer scouting is back. We're going over the edge, rushing position, only a handful more positions that we have until shoot at the end of this exercise. We're going to release our shows. Top 50 preseason, top 50 is into the season, which is going to be a lot of fun. We're going to give you the very first 2023 mock draft from this show,
Starting point is 01:13:45 which I'm looking forward to as well. But we've got a lot of positions that we've got to get to through summer scouting before now and then. I am Trevor. That's Connor. Thank you guys so much for listening. And this has been the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. Thank you.

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