NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - 74. Reacting To Feldman's Freak List for 2022 (And 2023 NFL Draft)

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

Hosts Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers go through Bruce Feldman's "College Football Freaks List" and pick out some of their favorite draftable players from the list.

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It's awesome. Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS, device and content restrictions apply. Local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital-only games. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. In this episode, we are breaking down Bruce Feldman's 2022 edition of the College Football Freaks list. It's a great way to recognize some of the best athletes, the craziest athletes in all of college football. From a draft perspective, we're going to be taking a look at some of the draft-eligible

players who could be on your NFL team next year. These guys are going to put up some crazy numbers this upcoming season. It's a great way to get a head start on what you think these guys could bring to the table for not only their college football teams, but of course, in the NFL in the near future. I'm Trevor Sycamore. With me, as always, is Connor Rogers. Let's ring the bell. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast.

I'm Trevor Sycamore. That's Connor Rogers. This is a Monday morning podcast, which means we're mock drafting, sort of mock drafting. A really fun topic here for you that I know that you guys are going to love and follow. If you know anything about college football, you know Bruce Feldman's freak list that comes out at The Athletic every single year. He's been doing this for years. It is truly, and I've said this to Bruce before, I believe it it was at the combine when I first said this to him, this is one of the must read pieces of college football and even just football journalism.

Every single year, Bruce does such a great job talking to a lot of these schools from around the country, basically saying like, Hey, who are some crazy athletes that you guys have in your program? So he's expanded it. He's got a hundred guys this year that he put out for this year's freak

list. And Connor and I are going to to go through pick out some of our favorite ones highlight them to you guys and uh a lot of it will be draft eligible people so we'll give it a draft focus as well but connor man this is going to be a fun fun exercise man we get to expose a lot of these guys to the people and i'm very excited about it yeah man it's going to be cool obviously the work bruce puts into this it's kind of one of those exercises at this point where I would imagine people are so invested in this in the college football world that Bruce probably has to filter so many people

that want to be a part of the schools and players and obviously an incredible amount of players already on this, but I know he's been doing it for a long time where it's grown into, you know, it's like how people want to be on like the Pat McAfee show. It's that kind of thing at this point. It has that kind of power. So I think that the fact knowing probably what doesn't make the list makes the guys on it that much more special. And you and I in our very own way are going to talk about the players that are the most intriguing to us. And that might not

mean the guys that are going to be first round prospects all the time but guys that could right now be projected as UDFAs and because of this athletic profile or something that stands out might turn themselves into an early day three day two player so I love this list and you nailed it Trevor it is required reading yes for anybody invested in the nfl draft scouting world i don't want to say this is like easy for him now because i know how much work bruce puts into this thing to now it's videos embedded in it that's when you know it's legit you remember when this thing first started i feel like it had to be i i don't even want to sell him short here but i remember it i feel like it was 2017 2018 ish when this like kind of started like around that time

and i think he had maybe like 40 guys that he added to this list and it was a really cool article to read right off the bat dude like you just said he's got a hundred now so schools are probably just sending him all of they're almost like doing all of that investigative work for him they're just like please promo our guys and then bruce just gets to kind of pick his own and rank him into a top 100 which is uh really cool and it it's it's so great for any college football fan out there because it teaches him about some guys that are around the country who their favorite teams might go up against give a primer against those guys and then of course the nfl draft as well it's a really great nugget something that uh is is on

the early portion of the nfl draft radar that's really cool buddy before we get into this list please walk me through the zach wilson roller coaster this week this weekend i'm not laughing that the guy got hurt obviously i i love zach wilson i hope that he gets back to the field as soon as possible but it was wild to hear all the training camp hype all of the oh this could be a great incredible year for the jets incredibly zach willis is going to take this next step and then the play happens in preseason and it's just every so many people are just like yep the acl that's it it's done the season's done what are we are we trading for jimmy g well i mean did you did you buy no time wasted jimmy G was immediately on the Jets.

What was your favorite part of the Jimmy G New York Jets? Dude, let me tell you right now, and I saw some people that were like, oh my God, the panic from Jets fans. I'm like, do you realize most of these people were alive when Chad Pennington's shoulder exploded in the preseason when that Jets team was supposed to be amazing. The mini-test of Verde injury the years before that.

The Jets and quarterbacks have such a trend of it being ruined, going into a promising season before it even starts, that it felt like that all over again. Let me, for a second, unfortunately, make this a little bit personal. So, Trevor, this week in fantasy baseball i am in a very long-standing keeper league um that is takes up way too much time of all of our lives and there are people in like across the country in this league and it stays together for like 10 years fantasy baseball is a full-time job grind grind full-time job yeah this is a

pretty serious league so i traded uh a second-round pick, a future second-round pick for Fernando Tatis. Two days later, he gets suspended for 80 games. He's done for the year. And I can't keep him. He's not keeper eligible. I'm in the first place, so I was like, let me go for it now. Try to win this year. I'll trade a future pick for him.

I lose him. So, Friday night, I think, thanks to the Twitter doctors, I swear to God, I have text message proof. I did not think it was an ACL at my doctor expert opinion. I was like, man, the way he got up, like a lot going around about that. All Twitter, though, every guy with PhD, MD, PT in their username said it was an ACL. And I'm just the guy on the couch with no medical degree.

So I was like, oh, wow, this stinks. And Jimmy G's now on the Jets and everybody's laughing at us again. Then the Mets, who have just been the savior of my life this year, losing extra innings when they should have walked it off in the bottom of the ninth. Which, like, the Mets are going to lose games. That was fine. But it was like the cherry on top of, like, what else can happen? Like, what else can possibly happen in the sports world?

Like, is Igor Shostakhin going to retire? Like, I need something right now. So, thank God, everything bounced back a little bit. Zach, so it sounds like Zach's okay. It sounds like he could even be ready for week one. I wouldn't push that, but that was my personal roller coaster just to say one of the millions of Jets fans out there how I felt. Good Lord, and I will never, ever, ever trust a Twitter doctor ever again in my life.

No. I mean, look, there are some people out there who would like, that's their shit on Twitter. It's a brand thing. Everybody's got one. Everybody's got one. And I get it. But what bothers – and you know what?

Like, you got to do your job. Like, I get it. Like, a lot – some people are employed for that. some people um we have one at pff somebody who kind of like looks at injuries as they happen evaluates injury injuries we try to kind of get ahead of it but even our guy mario he never says the words confirmed that's the part that bothered me and annoys me so much is that obviously whoever gets first on this Zach Wilson injury news, it was like the Tom Brady retirement news, right? Every time the season ends, it's like, okay, which insider is going to be able to break this first.

Cause it's going to be huge news. But the fact that you had people out here, not even saying like, Ooh, knee knee went a little bit of a weird direction. Could be an ACL here. This is kind of something that they should be monitoring. This is something you should be ready for for anybody to say that an injury was confirmed when you're not in the room when you didn't evaluate the player like that's the stuff that really really bothers me uh that was the biggest crock of shit i will say of us when when we were watching that night we were all watching we were all waiting for the

next update on zach wilson and you've got people who weren't even in the room aren't even on the team saying these words like yep confirmed this is it and it's just like calm down well and here i mean this this is what bothered me too like and i of course posted a meme about it um just that we had to go from this kid he's 23 spraining his knee on the field and nobody knew what the injury was and within 30 minutes people were drawing up jimmy g trade proposals i'm just like dude and we do this on the show all the time like we are the madden franchise like podcast that over summer we're gonna not do that a ton during the season. We milk that a ton.

But when it happens in real time, it was just like, oh my God, can we breathe? It's preseason. All I did for a month was talk about how much I can't wait for preseason football because that's better than no football. It's true. And within an hour, I realized how much I hate most of it. I love evaluating the rookies and all that, but the timeline, man, it's nuts.

I was going to say, look, George Pickens is going off, so I love the preseason. I mean, you nailed that one. The preseason's great for me. Look, I tweeted this, I think on Friday, just to make sure that everybody was reminded of this. Preseason reps only matter if they confirm their priors. That's it.

That's it. If the guy is good or if the guy is bad. If you happen to say that before the ball was snapped in the preseason, you are right. Close the page. Don't watch that player anymore. Count it as a scouting win. That's how we survive, baby.

That's why this podcast is here. The best is the people that just tweet the stats and it's like you got the earlier players not looking as statistically great as the later drafted players and it's like well maybe they played against the ones or barely played at all oh there's always an excuse always excuse the person it's a beautiful time like the lack of it really is you can you can get any narrative going that you want yeah it's create your own adventure on twitter you can i mean how many players are the steals of your fantasy draft right now slash thread 100 9 million 9 million there's no way i lose a league this year no i won't lose a bet i won't lose anything me and you me and you are batting lifetime we're

batting a thousand on never missed on a player evaluation. Never missed. There's a preseason clip or stat that somehow validates my opinion of a player, either good or bad. So that's why we absolutely love this season. All right, right before we get into this list, because we're going over Bruce Feldman's freak list. We're not going through all 100 guys, but we're going to point out some guys that really stood out to us.

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got all 100 to choose from now on this list we have some guys that we've already brought up in summer scouting that I think that we should probably mention again, because some of them are quite literally incredible athletic freaks that we've got some new information and athletic testing on here. But where do you want to start here with this one? I got to start with an international player, because these guys, to me, are the most fascinating, more often than not, in the scouting world,

because of their, could be because of their limited football background or limited resources and development before they get to a program like Michigan. Julius Welshoff. Trevor, I have to be honest. The Michigan edge rusher, right? Michigan edge rusher. All 6'7", 266 pounds of him. Man, I did not know much about him. and that's the beauty of the Freaks List. I often tell people that my most important aspect of the Freaks List

is finding small school guys that I'm not going to get to or my area connections are not going to go through that area. But this is a guy from a big school who hasn't played a lot of, you know, actual, a lot of more special teams, it sounds like, than defensive reps or production. Sure. Julius Welshoff, before coming to Michigan,

his background is mind-blowing. Bruce, in this article, said that he was a 6'6", 220-pound former champion skier from Germany doing backflips on his skis and walking 50 yards on his hands. This guy needs to be in SSX 3. This guy needs to be in video games. This is like, you're right, it's a video game character in a sense. The kind of testing that he puts up is just fascinating to me. Obviously, it's all there.

They're saying that his three cone is 6'7", 6", which at that size is out of this world. They do this flexibility test, ankle mobility test that one of his teammates said guys usually get about 12 inches. He got 23 inches. Everything about him, considering his size, doesn't make any sense. Where I'm like, man, he's been with the program for a little bit now. I believe he's a fifth-year player. But if they get that green light to turn on, he might be a pretty freaky rotational pass rusher.

Even getting away from that, just the skiing background. Trevor, I was mind was mind blown by this guy's background and and now i do have him obviously written down um i'm excited to see what he can do because that's just that freakish tester dude that is that's some insane stuff the the michigan strength and conditioning program i would just say like overall athletic program is pretty wild what they've been able to do over the, uh, them in the last couple of years.

It's insane. It's truly insane. And like the skiing background, I love that. I love, I love multi-sport athleticism with these guys, you know, like that's,

that's something that, that really intrigues me. And he's a fifth year senior. So he is a draft eligible guy, but doesn't have a ton of football production yet. So we'll see if he gets it this year. Obviously, he wasn't going to play over David Ojabo and Eden Hutchinson last year, but might be a lot of opportunity for him this year.

So I think that that's a really good shout-out to start us off. I've got to start off with a player who we have mentioned before, somebody who is very high on our edge rusher list and that is andre carter from from army because he checks in at number 13 on bruce feldman's freak list six foot seven 260 pounds all right so like another unique build you mentioned a guy who was about six foot six six foot seven andre carter is another guy but in this little blurb Feldman said Carter's length is only more amazing when you factor in the also had a blazing 4.2 in his pro agility test that's the short shuttle this offseason that's crazy for a guy who's that big wild I think that's

we're gonna do that for a couple of guys that we've loved in summer scouting, give you guys some extra context. But remember, this is a player who had 15 and a half sacks last year, 18 and a half tackles for loss. You look at him, and at least I certainly did when I turned on the tape and I was like, all right, this guy's probably just, I'll say a gimmick player. Like I figure you're just putting this giant pterodactyl on the edge because he got so much length and he's not man.

He's a way better athlete than you would give credit for a player who stands as tall as he does. And, and it just, the things that we do, we've talked about this over summer scouting. So I won't talk too much about him. You guys can go listen to this episode, what he is able to do from a functional athletic standpoint flexibility standpoint burst speed twitch for a player who just has that big of a frame i wanted to give context to you guys again more evidence to the

fact that andre carter is the real deal he is somebody that you've got to watch this upcoming football season he's got to be on your edge rush rankings. You've got to get some eyes on him because he's truly a unique player. And that's why he checked in at number 13 here for Felden's freak list. Man, yeah. It was cool to see guys like that that are a big focus of this draft cycle.

But then when you see it in there, especially when everybody's going, why is this guy an army, right? He's going to get questions of where he plays and all those things. So when you see them on the freaks list and what they could do, it's pretty freaking cool, man. That's the ones that do impact the draft so significantly.

Another guy for me that we didn't have in our top fives when we did edge players, but I am circling back to and really intrigued by what he can do this year is Will McDonald, the Iowa State defensive end. He was high on this list, wasn't he? Yeah, he was the fifth player that they listed. And, you know, they say that he's an elite athlete who can do backflips standing still and has videos jumping over cars. That's what Matt Campbell said about him. They think his vert is going to be around 42 or 43 inches and that he's going to hit 11 feet in the broad so to be that explosive as an edge player that's probably going to play around 240 pounds this year that's pretty freakish stuff and it helps that there's a lot of guys on

this list Trevor and it might be because like you said well shop they're at a big program they're playing behind guys they have crazy athleticism scores in a lot of different areas, but they just haven't played any football or they haven't been very productive on the football field. Will McDonald is a double digit sack guy already. So the fact that you know that going in that he's going to put up those kind of explosive scores makes him that much more intriguing to me. And Iowa State under Matt Campbell, they've produced, you know, significant NFL players, significant NFL prospects at this point where there's no hesitation at all about what this guy could be.

I'm looking. I got to look up his PFF grade, what he had last year. Computer's running. Because I definitely have to watch McDonald a lot more this year. What was his overall grade? I mean, yeah, first team All-American, 14 tackles for a loss, five forced fumbles had him that high he probably had a pretty pretty fat grade okay so his pass rush grade yes 5.3

and that's his game i mean he's a lighter he's a lighter edge he's got yeah his run defense grade was 47.3 and that's not that is you're right he's a rotational guy right now the nfl level obviously at iowa state this guy's gonna play all the time but right now he projects is that true nascar package rusher out wide but man yeah run defense grade this was last year was his worst grade but he's never been above 63 but he's also he's also never been below a 76 in the pass rush category he's even as a freshman right he dude he had 84.1 pass rush grade as a freshman yeah any redshirt freshman but still all right that's impressive that's impressive i'm cool with it uh no i want to bring a new guy to the table i'm going back to michigan going back to the michigan well athletic strength and

conditioning staff of michigan they're getting some crazy guys in there they're doing some crazy things with them dj turner the senior cornerback for michigan i don't know exactly how tall he is because there are some places that say that he's like five nine michigan listens to six lists him at six foot a couple recruiting databases i've found out of him at like 5 11 now so i think he's probably somewhere between 5 10 5 11 especially after watching his tape after looking him up on the on this list i think he's probably around 5 10 5 11 started at 177 now he's about 185 feldman has him at 187 but i'm sure that's a little bit on the higher side so i'm gonna go down a little bit from that this dude's speed and agility is next level and if there's a position where speed and athletic

and agility can really shine it is at playing corner okay this is what feldman says about him he is the fastest guy on the wolverines having hit 23.07 miles per hour on the GPS. Just to give you guys some context, the fastest player all of last year in the NFL using GPS technology was Jonathan Taylor, who had a 22.13 miles per hour rush. So this guy's fastest time is faster than the fastest NFL player was last last year i don't even know

um when's the last time somebody recorded a 23 raheem moser recorded 23 the year before 23.09 and raheem is special athlete do we have a tyree kill in there i'm wondering if we get tired no i mean like well he was pro day only the rest of the no no i'm talking about like this is in season stuff this is yeah yeah recorded times yeah so okay i mean raheem mostar i got you 2020 was the only one who recorded that's crazy when you think about it like a run that was that fast uh what we call it teleporting right that's what we said the combine record is jordan thomas from oklahoma he had a 6.28 which was just one of the most nuts out of nowhere i was gonna say i didn't even know the three got that low at the combine no unbelievable but so

i mean like this guy's threatening the fastest three cone time in combine history they've also got him clocked at a 428 40 yard dash and when you watch his film i think he's a little undersized to play as an outside corner but what impressed me the most about him is he flips his hips and changes direction and accelerates so fast. I feel like this guy could be a true slot shutdown option as a nickel defender in the NFL. At least he has that athleticism to have that ceiling. Whether or not he's got kind of the rest of the game for it, we'll see.

I think he's going to get a lot of action this year. He was an honorable mention all Big Ten last year, but he's going to get a lot more playing time this year as well this dude's got rare athleticism and when you're a corner you've got to gravitate towards those kinds of players because it is such an important piece of not becoming a mismatch as nfl passing offenses get more diverse you've got to have guys that have the athleticism to be able to counter it and dj turner from michigan unbelievable athleticism the hips flip about as fast as you possibly can the change directions lead i can't wait to watch more of this guy this year dude me too that's

the agility numbers alone stupid for that position are insane and so important so important so that i'm with you that was another one that stood out to me on the list that I know we didn't get to on our corner show. And I have another one that we did not get to on our corner show. Riley Moss, the Iowa cornerback that these numbers, I don't want to say really surprised me, but they should surprise anyone in the sense that they're out of this world a first team all big 10 big time ball production in his career uh 6-1-193 high school hurdler but you know so the the vertical being around 42 inches that's an amazing number but i think when you look at what he's done on the field it's you're not blown away what is just absolutely jaw-dropping is bruce has been told uh he's clocked the fastest short shuttle time for dbs and kirk ference's two decades plus at iowa blazing through it in 3.85 seconds for context here damn zion mccullum who we thought was one of the craziest athletes in the entire draft last year did it in 394 this this dude did three five so you want to talk

about agility acceleration explosiveness riley moss man i insane insane you ready for uh you ready for 9 000 jason seahorn comps for this dude by the way it always it always goes back to jason seahorn doesn't it but But really though, this is pretty, pretty wild stuff on the testing times for Riley Moss. So some corners in this class, obviously with some crazy tools, crazy tools. Moss has backed it up on the field though,

to be fair, a lot. When I read this, a lot of the corners, I was like, Oh, I didn't really, that guy's a popped or I,

you know, he hasn't had a ball production with Moss. He's played a lot and he's played at a high level in a tough conference. Yeah, and Iowa's defense. He could have declared last year. He could have, and Iowa's defense was really good towards the end of last year. Dude, how good is that defense going to be this year?

After we did the linebacker show? Yeah, yeah. With a healthy Riley Moss back, that's going to be huge for him. I'm going to stay with the DB train, and I want to bring this guy up. have one more uh summer scouting session left and it is for safeties and i was definitely going to get this guy on my radar uh now certainly after kind of reading everything about him here in this group it's brian branch the d the defensive back from alabama and i do have to call him a defense back i'm not even going to call him a safety because

he's played all five positions for Alabama. And the reason is because this dude is unbelievably strong. He is one of the best tacklers in the entire country. Nick Saban knows that no matter where he puts Brian Branch, he is going to get steady play when it comes to run defense and tackling and giving his all in that area. So he's not a liability in any way, shape, or form at that spot. He's played, let me look it up. I have the numbers right here.

So last year, he played mainly as a slot defender. He played over 400 snaps as a slot defender, 427 snaps there. 128 as a box defender, so more as a strong safety type that's coming down into the box. 23 at wide corner, so he didn't play a ton ton of wide corner snaps and then 50 snaps free safety so they had him more towards uh towards the box towards the line of scrimmage either playing in the slot or uh playing as a strong safety but that makes a lot of sense when you look at the fact that he had an 88.1 run defense grade last year and he had an elite 90.2 i think, which, you know, defensive back pass rushing.

It's not like there's a ton of snaps there. It's not like he's racking up all sorts of snaps as a pass rusher. But coming off the blitz, either from a safety spot, more toward between the tackles or off the edge, or as a nickel defender kind of screaming in around the edge in that way, this dude's been fantastic. He's been awesome. Reading his little blurb here that we have from Feldman,

6'194", strong as an ox, dude. Okay, 194 pounds. Please remember this. Get this in your head. This dude is 194 pounds. 565 squat nuts way more than double his weight almost triple his weight power cleans 335 this guy is just a an absolute unit and he was also clocked at having a 22.3 miles per hour uh speed on the gps system that alabama wears during uh practicing games so he's got the speed he's got the strength he's got the reliability as a tackler

i can't wait to watch his film for this thursday as we we get to talk about safeties but i wanted to make sure i brought him up as a little uh little preview for that i love those weight room numbers at that that pound for pound nuts pound for pound that is a strong strong it's a good way to say it pound for pound might be the strongest defensive back in the country. Yeah. But those numbers and that weight. All right. Another one for me.

This goes back to the smaller program guys that, you know, you find from this freaks list. Andre, and I want to make sure I pronounce his last name right. I think it's Yoshivas. Yoshivas. Yoshivas. That's how Bruce wrote it in the little blurb but princeton wide receiver andre yoshivas all you need to know is 63205 from honolulu

sprinter sprinter this dude has done some crazy stuff on the track that they are estimating his 40 can translate into something in the four twos. And that plays. I mean, that plays. And his position coach, Brian Flynn, said he trains year-round on how to start and sprint. He bought a jugs machine when he was quarantined during COVID. So this is a guy that— Wait, wait, he bought a jugs machine?

Yeah. How much are jugs machines? Great question. You Google that while I talk about Yoshibas. So... All right. How much do you think a Juggs machine is? 10 grand?

All right. We're going to play Price is Right. All right. I forgot. I need to get back on that bit. You do. You do. I'll get back.

You can't go over. I said 10 grand. Yeah. It's not 10 grand. That's way go over. I said $10,000. Yeah, it's not $10,000. That's way too high. But you tell me. Let's see if you can get within $400 of it. $1,750.

Wow, I like the unique guess. No, it's more than that. It is $3,995. So it's four grand for a jugs machine. You could buy one on Amazon.com right now. Oh, they're running a sale. $200 off. Wow.

$3,795. Wait, is this on Amazon Prime? Isn't on Prime? Do we got a prime deal we got no nfl team buying a jugs machine on amazon mf and prime my guess of 10 grand was probably now for andre yoshibas who's just chilling at home during covid yeah i got the prime one i feel you bro i would do the same thing i feel you oh no you can't you can't order it through prime but you're shipping on a jugs machine yeah imagine it's probably a tough assembly it's just one of those things that comes in you're like really excited when you order it and then it comes in a flat box that's like 10 feet

long and you're like oh my god i'm gonna be assembling this thing for nine weeks today all right so today's august 14th because we're recording this on a Sunday. It says that I can get it. Whoa, okay, hold on here. It's a 350 delivery charge. I didn't think they'd do that on Amazon Prime. $350. I'm going to see how quick I can get it, because being near New York City, I get everything in like three hours.

It's too dangerous. It's like shipping. Proceed to checkout. Okay, now we're fully buying a Juggs machine. They're telling me I can have one in three days. Damn. Yeah. The reviews aren't great okay all right okay now i gotta i got myself a 4.5 star jugs machine right here in the car okay there's some other one uh i think this is from a high school because they they want 350 for the ship okay this is like posted. It's got to be heavy as shit.

Yeah. All right. Anyways. All right. Good for Yoshivas with the investment of the jugs machine. Man, these small school guys that can run though. They always get a shot. They always get a shot.

So yeah, somebody I want to throw on the show because I have not watched much Princeton for the draft. But I will be this year. We will, we're, we're, we're going to get to Princeton, Princeton. Another dude who we have not talked about, who we didn't get to talk about when we went over interior defensive lineman, but a guy that I wanted to give a shout out to, and I'm glad that he's on this list. Number 65 on the Feldman freaking list, Elijah Chapman,

the SMU defensive tackle, smaller guy. All right. He's about 6'1". Feldman's got him listed at 295. I feel like he's a lot closer to 280, okay? I don't know where 295 is. I don't know what that summer weight. You know, we try to kind of do that thing with Jalen Twyman, right, when he was at Pittsburgh where we were like, oh, okay, like he plays at 270.

Oh, yeah, but he, like, bulked up, and now he's. Yeah, but he bulked up, and now he's like 290. Okay, but it wasn't a great 290. I'm pretty sure Chapman's playing his best when he's around 275. I'm going to be honest. I think he's about six feet tall, and he's about 275. He's a bowling ball kind of a frame. But the man, you would think that small, you'll go, okay, speed, right? Speed dude, twitched up, one gap penetrator.

He's actually not. I don't think he's super twitched up, which is why I don't think he's going to get drafted super high. It's probably why he went back to school after this past year. But the man is as strong as an ox. Like the dude is just rocked up with strength. He uses that natural leverage so well. And I feel like his upper body and his lower body make him an absolute force.

He had an 80, 88.2 overall grade last year, 92.0 run defense grade. I know he's playing at SMU. It's not like he's playing in the SEC every single week. He doesn't control that right now. But this guy's six feet tall, 275 pounds, and he's just anchoring people out here.

He's bull rushing interior offensive linemen who have like 60 pounds on him, anywhere from 40 to 60 pounds on him. It's pretty crazy. he's not a super twitched up dude but numbers that Feldman has for some uh for some freak numbers for him bench pressed over 495 pounds this offseason so I wonder if he was really just like hitting that 500 mark he's done 42 reps of 225 so whenever Elijah chapman comes out and you are in that draft pool with your buddies of who is going to bench the most on defensive line day elijah chapman you heard it

here first 42 reps of 225 that's pretty nuts back squats over 600 pounds power cleans 335 uh also did a muscle up while he was at uh they say 290 pounds he makes the muscle up look pretty damn easy so one of the strongest dudes in the country again pound for pound along the along the defensive line so shout out to elijah chapman speaking of the weight room i can't believe it we're getting a punter on here what where's the number 80 wisconsin's andy vunovic trevor this dude is out of his mind out of his mind 63 230 pounds of pure way isolate protein muscle and he's a good punter average 46.4 yards per punt on 49 punts 2021 um which set the he reset the single season record for punting average at the school by nearly two yards but who cares about any of that vunovic vertical 35 inches uh his agility time at four seconds is bruce highlights

in here quicker than most top d, benched around 400 pounds, and he does the Aiden Hutchinson Turkish getup. I mean, I'm watching the video right now. If anybody's watching on YouTube and sees my face. There's two kinds of specialists. What? There's the guys, because you got to realize, their practice time, like they have more time than a lot of other

guys on the team there's the guys that go this is more the nfl than college go play cards and then there's the guys that just lift weights like steve weatherford 900 hours a week this guy bunavich is a weight room machine and he's a good athlete he's not just a block of muscle he's not out there like like when i was his age like i was a block of muscle just couldn't move he this dude can he can move he can move he's gonna be run down on the field making tackles so vunovic weight room machine okay so vunovic is a uh future candidate for me to draft in madden every year and just put the Brian Dawkins dark visor and the Justin Tuck like full face mask on so he's gonna be wearing a shooter sleeve on the left arm and

then he's just gonna have like the full Justin Tuck predator helmet while he's oh yeah that's gonna be that's gonna be my pun Dude, I'm all in on this. It's, it's awesome. He's awesome. Two guys, no, no question about it. Two guys that I wanted to shout out that we've already talked about

through summer scouting, but I wanted to share that. Uh, I want to just give him a shout out again. Andrew Borey is the interior offensive lineman who I said was one of the easiest scouting evals that, uh, that I had as an interior offensive lineman.

If you think of them as a tackle as potentially a swing tackle okay maybe there's some uh athletic limitations for him where you'd be a little bit worried but honestly for him to play the left guard spot of the right guard spot probably the left guard spot i i don't think there's a lot to worry about with him i think that he's pretty steady and it's because of how much strength he has how much reliability he has he's on the freaks list here because he's bench pressed 225 more than 40 times. Like this guy's got more than 40 in the repertoire, which is great. And the other guy was Quentin Johnston, the TCU wide receiver. Jump out of the ceiling.

Which one is, where does he have Quentin? 19, I believe. Quentin is 23. Okay, close. 6'4", 210 pounds is what he hasn't listed vertical jump is 42 inches broad jump is over 11 feet clocked at four four flat in the 40 yard dash back squats over 575 pounds stupid just just insane insanely athletic dude and i i honestly i think that this pops out on tape man i really i really think it does it's why i am wide receiver two for me yeah why are you signing you on your list uh dude your guy owen papo who you had a five that's who i'm going to

next holy okay talk about my last one okay i didn't know i didn't know if we were we were gonna get out of here without you mentioning oh no my my last one i'm so glad you brought that up so i remember when we did the linebacker show i said at number five i'm gonna go with the guy that i think is a projection guy because he was hurt last year was good before that but you know he's big time recruit dude owen papo the six foot one 225 i think he's 230. Forget the 435-pound bench press. He's a linebacker. I'm not surprised. They're saying he's been clocked in the 40 at 4'3", too.

This dude is like an elite running back profile playing linebacker. I mean, he's a faster, what, Najee Harris playing linebacker. That's what he is. Dumb. Dumb. Wild. I can't wait to... Dude, he's...

I think he is so good and it's just a matter of him being healthy or not and i mean that they say in the auburn program his nickname is the freak the freak like this dude man i can't wait we have we have to talk about the number one guy on this list it's mazzy smith this is defensive tackle from michigan he's a senior he is draft eligible and he's number one on feldman's freak list so i'll read a little bit of a blurb of him here because there's a lot and you guys need to go read this article from feldman go get an athletic uh athletic scholarship sure go get an athletic scholarship if you're if we're giving one away on stock exchange she's our

athletic scholar of the year we'll give it to a kid that graduates college hey we're not paying for your school but we'll give you an athletic subscription we're out here recruiting recruiting the uh so okay six foot three 337 pounds all right so large individual smith does 22 reps on the bench press but that's not with 225 it's with 325 close grip benches 550 pounds get a vertical inch of 33 broad jump of uh of nine four and a half well uh and if i come in and give a second three cone this is what this is what i want to see sorry i was skimming a little bit because he writes a lot about him 695 three cone would have been the fastest among any defensive tackle in indianapolis fast was seven, three, three. And this guy's running sub seven, three cone. Are you serious? At six, three, three, three, seven.

That is truly, truly wild. This guy, he's a senior and there look, there was a lot of defensive line talent at Michigan last year. Aiden Hutchinson took up a lot of the, a lot of notoriety a lot of the hype David Ojabo came in halfway through the season and was like okay hold on they got another guy over here and so like those two guys are mainly what we talked about last year but Mazzy Smith number one on this list for a reason man that's just this is these are bonkers numbers I cannot wait to I gotta pop on the tape of this dude we did a little bit he it's weird he's

i mean obviously the total package as an athlete he he's not totally figured it out on the field yet but i mean we've seen michigan pull this act before where they have these guys that play a little bit and their athletic profile is like as 99 percentile and then they figured out their last year i mean quitty pay took off aiden took off ajabo took off you know we're gonna see our skier welshoff maybe take off like who knows but so i i didn't really overreact to it um but man this i mean like you said trevor there's so much on massey in this article that you really got to go read it. He got like six paragraphs. Right. And everything about him from the weight room to the mobility

to the agility is just out of this planet. You can't teach that kind of athleticism. Not to bring up a stupid cliche, but that's some pretty nuts stuff. He could not improve on the field, and I think he'd go in the third round still. That's the kind of profile he has. He's not ready to play. Yeah,. That's the kind of profile he has. He's not ready to play. That's the ball of clay he is. That feels like the floor with how athletic this dude is.

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because we brought a lot of new players to the show. We talked about being on the roller coaster of doom and gloom, back to normal. Being a Jets fan. What do we got? Oh, we got to finish the draft class this week. Safety is on Thursday. And then we were joking about it on the phone

a couple of days ago how excited we are to actually finish the prospect previews because making the big board is now, it's been in sight for a couple of weeks and we can't wait to get there. So hopefully everybody's been enjoying those. Making the big board,

we're gonna do a top 50 together. It's gonna be the Stock Exchange top 50. It's gonna be one hell of an exercise. And then man, you blink and you got real football games to do some actual stock watching for the giraffe next year. Yeah, we're going to build for you guys the NFL Stock Exchange big board on this, like on the podcast.

Like we obviously have our big boards. I'm going to finish my big board that I'm going to bring into it. Connor's going to have his board that he's going to bring into it. But then we are going to collaborate with the two of us having a unified NFL SC preseason, 2023 big board. And we're scouting. Yeah,

no, it is. I don't think you and I are going to have any conversation. The conversation is going to be on air, right? Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Solidate the rankings.

And I think that I've actually never done that in my life. I've always been a lone wolf in this brick room so i'm really pumped to to work together on this board and have those conversations we doing that on monday we're not saving it till thursday right we're doing it next monday i'll be ready to rock and roll okay all right well we're gonna do it next monday before then of course we got the safety list i'm excited for that one though i'm excited we got we got we got a we got to wrap it all up with a real fancy bow nice looking bow that'll be summer scouting and then we'll hit the big board and then after that we got the mock draft coming up too it's gonna be exciting guys we're gonna lead you right into college football season right into the nfl season it's gonna be a

good time stick with us i'm trevor sycamore that is connor rogers thanks so much for listening to the nfl stock exchange podcast Sikama. That is Connor Rogers. Thanks so much for listening to the NFL Stock Exchange Podcast. Bye.