NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Arch Down, Beck Is Back, Dante Moore, Top 100 LSU DBs & One Big As RB

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the opening bell, the NFL Stock Exchange podcast, Trevor Sica, McCona Rogers, back for another Stockwatch episode as we turn back the clock to last Saturday in college football, which was week three in college football. Three, yeah, that's where we're at. And we're going to talk about some stock up, stock down candidates. We're going to talk about some guys who have played well. Certainly, we're going to focus on the quarterbacks of the top. of the show like we have every single Stockwatch episode to this point but we're also at the end of the show if you're new around here
Starting point is 00:00:35 we're going to give you a new name to the scouting circle that we didn't give you guys during summer scouting who might be standing out in one way or the other I'll let you guys know multiple new names here on this show. We only have one that we put into the new name category but throughout the whole Stockwatch episode
Starting point is 00:00:52 you're getting multiple new names here and then like we did last week at the end of the show we'll shout out some of the guys that you guys, the addict are saying should get shoutouts here on the show. Connor, how you doing? I'm good, man. Looking at our rundown sheet after the quarterbacks,
Starting point is 00:01:07 I think you and I are bringing two new names to stock up out of the three and then actually a new name for the new name segment. So it's just that kind of year where, you know, a couple guys I'll recognize from a watch list before the year or senior list or even what we do on Big Ten countdown at NBC. But this show, there's plenty of guys that we just, we didn't get to or they weren't in the rankings before the year. So this is the beauty of it, dude.
Starting point is 00:01:32 It's kind of just adding these names to the she every single week. And when we re-rank groups, it'll be a little easier. We'll have a big leg up. That's a really nice way to say that the class is cheeks. And now we're trying to find literally anybody they can play. No, I'm kidding. I'm not. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It's not, it's not. But I do feel like this year more than other years were sort of broadening our horizons early in the season to try to find some new names. I agree. I was having a call this week with somebody in the industry, and we tried to count. Flex. Yeah, you like that? Somebody in, somebody in the industry. It could be anybody. Could be anybody. It could have been you. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:02:16 It wasn't you, but it could have been you. It could literally be anybody out there. Could be anybody with a Twitter account that tweets about the draft. We were trying to figure out who are the players right now that you can confidently say will be a top 20 pick. and the exercise was way harder than I think it's ever been, or at least for a couple years. I mean, I'm planning on doing an update to the big board, the MDS big board and my own big board for, do I wait till, I guess it'll be week four,
Starting point is 00:02:48 so I guess we'll do it next week. We could do that like for this episode, if we wanted to go over some of the different movement that we have on the big board and just kind of switch up stockwatch if we wanted to do it like that. But I have already noticed more drastic movement on my own Big Board at this point in time that I have most other years that we have done this exercise. You're panicking.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's Caleb Downs and then just punt until next year. Just start trading back as many times as possible. No, again, it's not that bad. But it is when we go through the updated Big Board next week, again, if we want to do that, if you guys want us to do that, let us know in the comment section. it will look very different I can already tell you guys
Starting point is 00:03:34 the guys that are in my top 20 it might look we might have like half of the top 20 might be new might be new players that have moved up into that range so I do agree with you as well as your connection in the industry that you talk to so mysteriously
Starting point is 00:03:49 could be a blogger could be a general manager could be an agent could be a scout could be so many different people it's Dave Gaddelman Yeah, it is. He's got to get these takes off. He's got to get these takes off.
Starting point is 00:04:02 If there's anybody that my personality meshes with, it would be Dave Gettlement. Absolutely. Hey, you know what? Dave Gettlement. Never wrong just early about Daniel Jones. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:04:18 3D goggles. Never wrong just early. He's playing chess, folks. I would love if he had a Twitter account, and that's all he tweeted. Every day was never wrong. early and that's it he just does it again the next day i'd retweet it every day means i actually would every every single day i would retweet it um all right so hey everybody out there we're about to jump into this quarterback conversation but i forgot to do this last episode if you guys
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Starting point is 00:05:25 If you love the draft, it's, no joke, PFF's data has completely revamped my scouting process over the last half decade, just because it gives me basically breadcrumbs or like a trail to follow down for deeper guys. Like, yeah, everybody is watching for sure. But when we're going through day three, me and you really grind day three players for a couple months leading up to the draft, just the data trends you can follow to be like, hey, this guy is not being talked about and probably should be a fifth rounder. and if you're nuts about the draft,
Starting point is 00:05:54 that's probably the best part about that data. And you get the fully unlocked mock draft simulator too. Like you can do all the trades. You could do seven rounds. You can do all of that great stuff if you have the subscription. So again, if you know you're going to use it for draft season anyways, like if you're somebody who might be seasonal when you get a PFF sub,
Starting point is 00:06:09 get 25% off right now. And again, help out the show NFLSC-25. That's the best way to do that. We have to talk about Archmanning. I know that we've talked about Archmanning sort of a little bit throughout the first couple of weeks when he played Ohio State. It was like, not great. not great and then san jose state it's like okay the passing grade's a little bit better but it's still
Starting point is 00:06:27 san jose state it was a little up and down he had three turnover worthy plays to go along with his three big time throws the utep game he graded out at a 47.1 as a passer we i mean we got major problems right now archmanning was my we wait hold on whoa whoa whoa whoa we you and i don't have problems here wait what do you mean what what do you mean he's got to go back to school that's it Oh, sure, sure, sure. I'm not saying you. Like, I didn't rank him where I had him either. You're a friend in the industry whose job is on the line to pick a quarterback next year.
Starting point is 00:07:01 We. We have a problem here with where he's currently ranked on the big board, okay? That is actually the clarification there. Because to be honest with you, and I'm not trying to like overly dunk on him, be unfair, whatever. He is one of if not, well, I guess he is certainly. the most disappointing quarterback in all of college football so far this season. By far. Not even close. And to be honest with you, he's one of the worst quarterbacks in the power four. He's one of the worst
Starting point is 00:07:33 quarterbacks in the SEC. He's one of the worst quarterbacks in the FBS right now. I do not know what happened. And Steve Sarkisian is saying he's not hurt. Even though he's side-arming throws, he's got that wincing face sometimes when he throws the ball like the throwing motion yeah it was a little side-armed last year but i'm telling you guys go watch the games from last year there are plenty of throws that are much more traditional and over the top and the follow-through is exactly the way that it should be and this year like everything is panicked everything is side-armed the footwork is so often not married with where he's pointing to his shoulders to the target and then you throw in the sidearm motion that he has i don't get it man
Starting point is 00:08:20 I said earlier this week to some of the guys that work at PFF, you remember Rick Ankeel, the pitcher? Oh, I'll never forget it. That's genuinely what it feels like. When Rick Ankeel got the yips, I don't know how else to explain this because it'd be one thing if Arch didn't show us any of this and he's still learning and growing and everything.
Starting point is 00:08:41 He's no question about it. Worse in his fundamentals, his decision-making, how he manages the pocket, his throwing on the run, his play under pressure, everything is so much worse than it was last season. And that's hard for me to believe, given the fact that he's played San Jose State and Utep over the last couple of weeks. Ohio State in the shoe to open things up against Matt Patricia and that defense. Yeah, I get it. All right. Most quarterbacks, maybe all of them, would struggle in that environment. But now we got things to worry about. I mean, it's just very strange to me.
Starting point is 00:09:18 he's hard to put on a big board right now because of what you said. Like, he's going back to school. And maybe I'll just remove him from the big board overall. But I feel like that's also not fair because technically he's draft eligible. And I know people are going to want to use him in the mock draft simulator. But, Comner, I'm kind of at a loss of where to put him. Because if I'm judging him off of what he is this year going to the NFL, yes, his last name's Manning. And I think he'd be a top 100 pick no matter what.
Starting point is 00:09:43 He'd probably be a second round pick no matter what. Like Christian Hackenberg was a second round pick, right? And that's sort of, honestly, like... Yeah, it was a great idea. How he's playing right now. Right. But they took Hakenberg because he just had the tools and they said, ah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Manning, I think, is if he's in this draft, a second rounder, no matter what. But to be honest with you, his tape is that of like a fifth, sixth, seventh round quarterback. Yeah. Seriously. So that's where it's at. Yeah. So we had to bring up the Manning conversation. But there's...
Starting point is 00:10:16 I went back and I watched the Utep game. There's not. really one thing to point to he's just really leaning into this sidearm throwing motion his footwork is not at all lined up with where he is releasing the ball and because of that his on target percentage is bad his adjusted completion percentage is bad he's throwing all sorts of turnover where he plays i mean that interception that he threw in the end zone buddy you can't even you can't even possibly think to throw that football and he's doing it in a game it's very very strange to me for a player who is so, so, so talented and one that I understand.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Like, I'm not, he didn't have to look like the, he didn't have to look like Peyton this year. No. He just had to look kind of like he did last year. And that would have been good. And it's just a, yeah, it, wild. I don't know if you have thoughts on Arch, but those are my thoughts that I had to get off my chest because he is absolutely not going to be ranked third overall. update the big board. And to be honest with you, I don't even know where I'm going to have him in my
Starting point is 00:11:21 top 100 if I'm going to have him in my top 100 at this point. I think you put it perfectly, especially the Rick Ankeel comp, which got the Mets of the 2000 World Series that year, because he pitched in two of those games, just throwing the ball to the backstop. It's, right. I don't know if it's psychological, but I guess it could be a scenario where he's just lacking confidence and it is trickling into the physical. We've seen that before with guys. but it's weird to me for this guy that I thought when he had to come in last year, didn't look out of place or like, oh, this moment's too big for me. And you would think he'd be way more ready this year after being the guy
Starting point is 00:12:02 throughout all a spring ball and all a camp. And who cares he lost week one to the best team in the country? Nobody's killing you for that. The U-TEP game was very alarming. It's very alarming. And the random sidearm throws, the mechanics from top to bottom, everything is just messy right now. And that's how I view it, Trevor, where it's good that he's not in his final year
Starting point is 00:12:26 of eligibility, where it's like, what do we do with this guy? It's just officially moved to, he's not an NFL quarterback prospect for this year, barring some kind of shock, barring some kind of drastic change, the second half of the college season into a playoff run. And he decides to declare, which all of those things would be extremely surprising right now. And I think that unless something drastically changes, like I said, this could be the last time for this year's draft that Arch Manning is in this quarterback carousel combo. We do every single week in the middle of the week. All right. So who do you want to bring to the table to talk about
Starting point is 00:13:03 here, start the day? Sam Levitt on Arizona State because rightfully so, I get a lot of questions or comments about Sam Levitt because he was QB12 for me this summer. And people were, you know, a little confused by that, especially some of the moments he had last year. And, And I decided to really focus in on Sam Levitt this week against Texas State, a game in which they won. Texas State was hanging around for a bit here, but just to grind the tape a bit and kind of see where he is at compared to what I liked and didn't like over the summer. And, you know, to me, the Sam Levitt problem I wrote down that was the number one issue from summer that to me still looks like the number one problem. He's just the guy that puts his offensive lineman in a tough spot by how often he bounces around or bales. drifts from clean pockets and there are times where the rush is on him and he can make a marvelous
Starting point is 00:13:54 play like he could spin out and roll to the sideline or make they or dip his shoulder and make somebody miss uh in this game specifically he did have three big time throws zero turnover worthy plays he did take three sacks against texas state he had a 77.9 passing grade i just Trevor i just don't love his arm and pocket presence and i think the things he's good at are totally fine and work in college where he's a good playmaker in a chaotic environment he can get out of trouble he can kind of pick have these scrambles where you're like how did he even do that i don't think he's fast enough where in the NFL he'll just be running away from NFL edge defenders all the time i think that he is his most confident
Starting point is 00:14:39 and comfortable when they go to the quick game whether it's quick throws to the flats the screen game play action hit the quick pass like that's the stuff that he's a good distributor that way but i think when he has to push the ball down the field in a very muddy environment he just he has to kill this habit of constantly drifting and throwing because he's putting a lot of air under the ball at times and for the most part it hasn't cost him too much yet but i think a really good team will take away some of those throws so just more highs and lows from sam levitt somebody i'm going to be tracking all year everybody knows i since summer i've thought jordan tyson is not only the best receiver in this draft i think he's one of the best players in this draft yeah that's a
Starting point is 00:15:21 big help for him he's not carried by tyson but i think he is the guy in this offense and i think levit still has a little bit of a ways to go before i move him up from where i had him yeah you want to talk about a guy who's going to be a lot higher on my rankings and i think i had tyson like 12 right 11 and he could very well be in my top five when I update that big board just because of how good this dude is. I think he's a legit NFL prospect. I agree with you. He is the guy in that offense. I have always been higher on Sam Leibbitt than you have been when we went back to the summer scouting quarterback episode. I think it just comes down to I believe in his arm more than you do because you're kind of, you're a little bit more cautious on what his overall arm talent is
Starting point is 00:16:07 in the pros at the NFL level. I think that he has a good arm despite being a little bit smaller in his measurables. But there's no doubt about it. Like he's kind of going through the same thing that Bo Nix is going through right now with the Broncos where... That's a good call.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Think about Bo Nix the last two years. Well, I should say the last three years, the two years he was at Oregon and then last year were the Broncos. Very risk averse. Low turnover with he play percentage. Always sort of was like taking what the defense was given him. And on Oregon's team, he didn't really have to try to win the game with his arms.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Now, he could, because I think, I think Knicks has got a hell of an arm. I really do. But he didn't have to win it with his arm a lot. As a rookie, you could tell that he really just, he didn't want to blow it for his team. Right. He was somebody who wanted to take what the defense gave him. Again, I think the Denver Broncos had a good year that won 10 games, right? I think they went 10 and 7 last year.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And that was good. But this year, I've said this to Dalton on the PFF show, I think that Bo Nix and Sean Peyton got together this offseason and they came to the conclusion that if the Broncos are going to get to where they want to go, the ceiling of this team, Knicks has to throw the ball. They definitely did. It's so obvious. Right. He has to throw the ball more. And it's the first time since Auburn that he's really been doing that. And he's struggling to do that. When you look at Sam Levitt, Levitt had one of the lowest turnover worthy play rates in the country last year. I think it was like 1.2, 1.3, something like that. And he just really wasn't asked to win games with his
Starting point is 00:17:35 arms lot. They had Camp Scataboo. And so they could totally lean on the running game last year. This year they don't have Scataboo. This year they have, it's Tyson again. They've got to win games through Jordan Tyson. So they're asking Sam Levitt to be more of a gunslinger. And to your point exactly, naturally for him, that's pretty reckless. Like it's a lot of bailing from clean pockets and it's trying to use your athleticism. And like even that one big time throw he had where it was like the jump throw, like the shortstop, like the Derek Jeter kind of throw thing. It's like you maybe don't even have to do that.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You know, I know John Mateer did one like that the other week as well. But it's just like he's pushing it for the first time, really. And so he's going through those growing pains. Again, I am always going to be a little bit more lenient and willing to work with some of the mistakes that Sam Levitt has because I believe in his overall arm talent. if you don't i can understand like on your side of things being more like i don't i mean he's because like you said if you don't if you don't believe in the ceiling of his arm talent all you have
Starting point is 00:18:45 to work with really right now is he's reckless he doesn't know how to manage the pocket he's not great under pressure the mechanics fail when he gets out of the pocket and that those are the things that weigh more to you to me it still weighs more that i like the arm a little bit more than you do but i can understand the concerns there for him it was nice to see him bounce back after a poor game versus Mississippi State. He was definitely better, yeah. But, but I mean, even the first big time throw that he had. The Tyson catch?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Yeah, I mean, it counts as a big time throw, but I mean, let's be honest. That's a, that's a sports center. Dunna da-na, da-na, da-da-da-da. Like, that's what that play is. That's not a big-time throw. That's a, that's Jordan Tyson just being a potential top 10-tank. I mean, the safety over there, the safety, the boy, there was so much air under the ball. The safety had the choice of, do I knock his head off or go for the interception?
Starting point is 00:19:32 and he didn't either, and Tyson just hangs in the air for what feels like eight minutes. And you know what? Like, I'm not going to criticize Levitt. When you have a talent like that, like if you had Justin Jefferson, you should do that. You should put more air under the ball and give the guy with some of the best ball skills in a 8 billion mile radius, a chance to make a play. But you're right. That's like that's an exaggerated big time throw. I was more impressed with a sideline throw to the opposite sideline that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 was dropped but he hit him in stride right and and then he had i think the jump throw was actually the other one which was nuts but it you know it's it's a little yeah it's like kind of NFL street style so let's talk about uh let's talk about dante more next yeah i know a lot of oregon fans have wanted us to talk about dante more i've i've been reluctant to talk about him before this point just because he's a red shirt sophomore he's a former five star so people have known about him for a long, long time. He was one of the top prospects overall in his draft class. I believe he was only behind Archmanning and Nico I Amaliava in that recruiting class. But I think that even just even behind those two quarterbacks, he was still number four on
Starting point is 00:20:43 247s like national list. So this is a highly touted quarterback who started his career at UCLA. He played in nine games the first season. He started five of them. But it was kind of this in and out of the lineup thing with Chip Kellogg when Chip Kelly was still the head coach there. And after he got benched, sort of in the middle or end of the season, he entered the transfer portal, ends up transferring to Oregon, doesn't play last year because he was sitting behind Dylan Gabriel. Right. And like a lot of people were talking about him when we were doing summer scouting. And I watched his stuff, because there's nothing really to watch from 2024. No. And I watched his stuff from 2023 when he started with UCLA.
Starting point is 00:21:27 and I'm not going to lie, like, it was bad. Like, I genuinely thought it was bad. I did not think that he was playing the quarterback position at a high level at all whatsoever, even for college, let alone the NFL. He was late to reads, he was late on throws, turnow-worthy plays, bad decisions, not managed in the pocket, not feeling pressure. Like, it just, it was not good from him in 2023.
Starting point is 00:21:49 This year, 2025, is certainly his best season yet. But we are young and into it. at three games and they haven't really played anybody. I think they played Montana State in the first week. They played Oklahoma State,
Starting point is 00:22:06 which I'll do respect to Oklahoma State, their defense is very bad this year. And then Northwestern, right? And the Northwestern, which is an opponent that you should absolutely handle if you're a team like Oregon currently the way that their program
Starting point is 00:22:16 is constructed with all that talent there. But I wanted to watch him because you guys have asked us to watch him and so I did. So he's listed at 6'4.3, 210 pounds, 55th percentile in height, only 14th percentile for weight. You could see he's a little bit smaller.
Starting point is 00:22:32 He's a little bit more slender. He's got pretty good fundamentals. I didn't think that the fundamentals were always there in 2023, two years later. You could tell that he's much more conscious of his fundamentals. He's got that clean, quick throwing motion, which is good. Again, I talked about with Arch Manning, a lot of these guys, I'm not trying to, like, you go after any quarterback coaches out there. But like a lot of quarterback coaches, I feel like we'll sort of like teach more of a sidearm
Starting point is 00:22:55 because it's very quick. Like it's a quick way to get the ball out of your hand. But I also think that could be a little bit reckless with accuracy and what should I say? Like repeatability,
Starting point is 00:23:06 repetitive throwing motion. That's actually the word that I was looking for there. So more has that, which I like. He's a little bit smaller than you would want for the position at the NFL level,
Starting point is 00:23:16 but through three games, 82.0 passing grade, which is good. Seven touchdowns, one interception, great. 5.9 big time throw percentage. so he's got four, and then 1.4 turnover-worthy play percentage, so he has one. Time to throw is 7.23. Great number. That's what you want.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Adjusted completion percentage, 79.1. That's a great score. Anything near 80% adjusted completion percentage, fantastic. And Conner, he has yet to take a sack this season. His pressure of sack ratio in 2023 was 26%. So the fact that he has yet to take a sack, despite having 14 pressures against him, I think that's pretty good. Now, a little bit of deficiencies for him. I said that physically he had some deficiencies because he wasn't really built like an NFL quarterback. He had some smaller measurables. I think that his arm talent's okay right now.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I think he's decent with his legs. He's not a Justin Fields or a Jalen Milrow type with his legs, but he can escape. He can keep defense as honest with his legs. I think he's got a good arm, adequate arm, is probably the word that I would use. I don't think it's a special arm. Something I also noticed about him,
Starting point is 00:24:15 sometimes his passes will wobble in their path more often than I thought I was going to see, which makes me wonder, does you have a little bit smaller of hand size, less control over the football, which is a little bit worrisome because when you get to the NFL level and you got to ramp up your throwing power,
Starting point is 00:24:32 if you don't have that control over the football, that's when you start to get some lack of ball placement, lack of accuracy, things like that. But overall, through three games, he looks a lot better than what he looked like in 2023. He looks a lot closer to being an NFL type of quarterback, but we've got to see it against good competition. Are you still managing the pocket correctly?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Are the fundamental still there when you're under pressure against better teams is the pressure to sack ratio still relatively low when you get to better competition. I know they play Penn State. They play Indiana coming up here soon. So those will be big test for them. Penn State's at Penn State and then they host Indiana. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, so that'll be a fun game for him and some good tests there. But overall, I wasn't blown away by the overall arm talent. Like even if he continues his consistent path right now, I don't know if this is a guy who I would say is, oh yeah, he like if he fixes the consistency is if he gives us the consistency he's a number one overall pick type of a guy but could he start in the NFL yeah i could i could see a world where he starts in the NFL let's just see it against some better competition so that those are my initial thoughts on dante more who i know a lot of you wanted us to watch no i'm glad you watched him because we i have
Starting point is 00:25:41 seen a lot of responses about him he is obviously eligible before the year i looked at and said like hey unless he has this monster year probably makes sense for him to be a two year starter there but Things can change quickly. I did a breakdown on Kenyan Sadiq for NBC this week, so I've indirectly watched a lot of more while break clipping out and cutting plays of Sadiq, but I'll definitely be prepping for him a lot. Week 5, which is unbelievably a week from this weekend already, our game for Big Ten College Countdown is the whiteout.
Starting point is 00:26:15 So next week I'll be watching a lot of more, but it's good to hear your foundation to him. And from the little I have watched, I have thought similar, like, top level stuff to you, Trevor, where I'm never wowed physically, but this is an offense that, I mean, it's just efficiently run right now, right? Like, it's hard to, there's not a lot of bad to critique because, which is really good. Which is what you want to see against lesser competition. Yes. Let's have it carry over, you know, obviously to the better teams. But yeah, Dante Moore is absolutely on the radar because everybody.
Starting point is 00:26:51 is starving for quarterbacks right now in this draft quest honestly yes they are which uh made me turn back the clock guess who i watched this week that i didn't watch for summer scouting this year i watched for summer scouting two years ago who is this noah fafeita oh wow that's a name i haven't heard in a long long time noah fafeita is playing really good football right now man and listen we had this combo on summer scouting two years ago at his size, because Noah Fafita is listed at 5'10, okay? That's never good. Like, you understand the limitations going in right away.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Because, like, Noah Fafita at this size, could probably throw 100 touchdowns and no interceptions this year, and I don't think he'd be a first-round pick. I just think the NFL is just going to be very afraid of an outlier that's listed 510-186, which means... Yeah, especially with Bryce playing the way that he is. If Bryce was light in the world on fire, I think the teams maybe give small quarterbacks a little bit more benefit of the doubt.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But for Bryce Young to go number one overall, it's almost like, I feel like the league's going to say, well, if any small quarterback was going to make it, it was going to be this dude. Right. And he's smaller than Bryce. You think he's smaller than Bryce? Let's see what was Bryce officially at the Combine? Bryce officially at the combine And I know he had the like very clearly not real weight on at the time
Starting point is 00:28:25 Bryce was 510 and an eighth 204 Fafita is listed 510 186 So I don't Unless they're just actually being honest which would be nice And he really is 510 And he can get he could put on the fake weight to 200 But he's And Bryce had 9 and 3 quarter inch hands
Starting point is 00:28:45 Which is way above the threshold Right right So I was just checking my sheet to see if I had spring measurements on Fafita, and the first sheet I checked did not. So we should. Was he a redshirt senior? That's what's weird to me is that, that, you know, typically you should have it. Yeah, let me know if you come up with anything. Did Dane have it?
Starting point is 00:29:12 He might. Oh, okay. There's one other sheet I have that could have. it. But the best one I have that had pretty much everybody that's eligible did not. So, okay, I found it. This is something that folks
Starting point is 00:29:28 when you're in the business, do this before the show. Okay. Why would we do that? I don't have them on either sheet which is bizarre, but here we are. Dane doesn't have him either. Isn't that odd? His height and weight is like clearly unless a team... He's 5.5.155.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Stop. why would how would we not have we have deep databases I know the two that you're talking about because I have access to them as well if you work in scouting you probably have them Dane's out here right in the beast
Starting point is 00:30:01 that's got 80,000 guys in it and you're telling me he doesn't have Noah Fafita's official measurements it's peculiar at best anyway nobody fools Dane Bruegler no he clearly has AI bots going into school facilities and measuring all
Starting point is 00:30:16 these things. Good work. Anything for the Beast, to be honest. Anything for the Beast. It's not going to write itself. I say all of this to say, credit to Noah Favita who's playing really good football this year. He really is. He, number one, and they beat Kansas State in their most recent game, 80.4 passing grade. He had two big time throws. He didn't have any turnover worthy plays. Three of his passes and some of them were good ones were dropped. But this is the difference Trevor two rushing touchdowns they are using the designed run game for him and it is opening up everything like rPO or like qb power like qb draw everything so like a little zone reed okay yeah they are they are utilizing him at his side they don't care that he's slender
Starting point is 00:31:05 they're like hey man you're going to get the designed run game going uh let me pull i'll tell you how many carries he already has this season and i you know sure some of them are he had 15 rush attempts against Kansas State, and a lot of them weren't just scrambles. Like, he is genuinely using the design run game to open up the field a little bit. He's not a great runner, but he's an adequate one. He can make somebody miss. He's got enough juice. The thing to me as a passer, he is very good at when he has moved off his spot from
Starting point is 00:31:34 the rush at making a consistent effort to reset the pocket. A lot of young quarterbacks get moved off their spot from the rush, and all of a sudden they just start running for their life backwards or to the sideline until they're out of space, and have to throw the ball in the air. Right. Fetha, and this is something clear that he worked on a lot this offseason, that good pro quarter,
Starting point is 00:31:53 I think Baker Mayfield has gotten a lot better at this at the next level. He, like, he evades the rush, and then he has enough spatial awareness to reset his base and put himself in throwing position back into the pocket again. And he's making really good throws from doing that,
Starting point is 00:32:11 and he's throwing with anticipation as well, down the field, in the middle of the field, for such a small guy, he's made some middle of the field throws where I'm like, man, he's just seeing it. Like he knows the exact depth of the linebacker, the exact depth of the safety, and he could put the ball on a rope in the middle of the field. So once again, man, I don't know what Noah Fafita ultimately is going to be as an NFL prospect, but I tip my cap to him because he has made so many strides after a bad year last year that he is playing at a much better level that at least he is back on the map. And if Dylan Gabriel could be a third round pick, if Noah Fafita can at least play like this all year, he will be drafted.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And that's a credit to him. Like him competing for a backup job or a roster at the next level, it would be absolutely maximizing his tools. I liked Fafita when I watched Tett McMillan originally. I remember I didn't remember where I had Fafita in summer scouting for 2024. No, that would have been. Yeah, yeah, it would have been Summer of 2024.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah, summer of two Because last year was the year I was like, yeah, man, it wasn't a great year for him. So I would have been watching obviously the 2023 tape for Summer Scouting at 24 and I remember watching it and going, okay, like Ted's legit, but like Fafita can also play. Like if you believe, again,
Starting point is 00:33:34 if you believed in Bryce Young, you could talk yourself into Fafita. And I remember, I gave him a draftable grade when I watched him in summer scouting. I liked him. And then last year, obviously, just wasn't great for it felt like anybody with Arizona outside of Tet who is still fantastic. But it's great to hear that he is back in balling and I'll have to go back and make sure I watch his games and make sure I watch more of his games moving forward because I did like his game.
Starting point is 00:34:02 In a year where 80% of the quarterbacks have not taken a step forward from where we watched over summer, Noah Fafita has made improvements. So credit to him. Last quarterback that I want to talk about, last week we joked. Or actually, what was it, two weeks ago, we joked. Is Carson Beck actually Carson back? Carson back. Folks, he's Carson back. I don't know what to tell you.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Obviously, he's got a big game against the University of Florida this weekend. And Florida, for as much as they are, tight-end you at the quarterback transitioning to tight-end position. He's leading into it. And what else am I going to do, brother? The comments just ring up. What else am I going to do? The comments have made so many lagway tight-ed jokes. Oh, it's a cruel world.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Seven turnover-worthy plays, one game? Seven. Seven. Yeah, that's... That's tight-end material. Zach Wilson couldn't even do that. I give him enough time. You give him time he can, but he's not giving the time anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:04 I believe it. That's not the bar you want, by the way. But anyways, it's obviously a good test against the Florida defense, which the Florida defense is good. It really made Nussmeyer struggle when they were at LSU this past weekend. And so it'll be a good test for Carson Beck. But what I wanted to look at was his numbers this year versus his numbers in 23 when we were kind of talking about him as potentially QB1 of last year's class
Starting point is 00:35:31 before he ended up transferring and staying in college. So this year, so far, he has a 79.4 passing grade compared to a 90.8 that he had in 2023 but i want you guys to realize that good grades for a whole season compound right like if you have if you played 12 games and you got to remember how pff grades work right like 60 is kind of like you doing your job so let's say you had a season full of like 70 grade like high 70 maybe low 80 passing grades but you didn't have any duds like you were consistently at that level your overall season grade is probably going to be in the low 90s because we give you credit in that formula for being consistently really good. You don't have to like grade a 90 every time. It's not,
Starting point is 00:36:19 it's not necessarily an average. It's really about consistency, how well you're playing, all that kinds of stuff. So Carson Beck may have a 79.4 passing grade right now, but if he continued to play this well throughout the whole season, he could be close to where that 90.8 passing grade is at the end of the year, because then that consistency factor goes into the formula. He has a 4.8 big time throw percentage this year compared to a 3.9 in 2023. He has a 1.1 turnover-worthy play percentage this year compared to a 2.3 in 2020. And when you look at adjusted completion percentage, it's close to the same. It's 80.7 versus a 79.0 that he had in 2023.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And then the time to throw very similar, 2.42 this year, 2.41 in 2020. So the differences with 2024 is the big time throw rate was very close to what it is this year, but the turnover worthy play rate was a career high. So the turnover worthy play rate is down. The time to throw was higher last year. He wasn't getting rid of the ball. He was second guessing himself. Now he is playing more competently.
Starting point is 00:37:20 So now we're watching Carson Beck and it's it's we're watching him play at a level in which we potentially considered him QB1 in the 2024 class. Like that is the level in which we are playing him. Now, is that going to spell out QB1 in 2026? I have no idea. Probably not. But when you talk about a quarterback class that has yet to really take this full step forward as a group, Carson Beck knows how to play the position.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Who he is middle of the field is NFL caliber. He has a 90.5 passing grade over the intermediate middle of the field, which is exactly what he was good at in 2023 when we talked about him being potentially QB1 back then. He is playing with so much more confidence than he was last season as well. And it's not like he hasn't had some stinkers so far this year. He's had some throws that he regrets and that he wishes he could have back. But when it comes to operating an offense and completing the throws that you need to
Starting point is 00:38:20 complete at the NFL level, Carson Beck is showing us that maybe he's a spot starter at the NFL level, but he's at least that and he might be more than that for you. I just don't know. It kind of depends on the landing spot for him. So where his ceiling, I think, is lower in the Carson Beck conversation than the way that we talked about him in 2023 going into 2024, the floor is still that same level of a guy who can absolutely play at the NFL level. It's just a matter of, is that a franchise caliber quarterback?
Starting point is 00:38:58 Do we think that's just sort of like a starter who might be a bridge starter? maybe a preferred backup his whole career. That's the big question with him. He's an NFL player. It's just a matter of where he ends up falling in that spectrum. Which is a massive win for him after how last year ended. Being at a program this year where the team, this Miami team is really freaking good. And just getting back to who he was two years ago where he was viewed as a top 100 guy going into that season before the wheels fell off the bus.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. That's quarterback conversation. Well, not entirely. I got one more quarterback that I'm going to bring up for my new name. So we are still going to talk quarterbacks. And it is a quarterback that you guys have asked for for the last couple of weeks. So get ready for that one. But before we get to our stock watch portion of the show, this BFF betting segment is brought to you by our friends over at Draft Kings. Connor, I'm looking at the NFL this week. I'm looking at that Cowboys Bears game. Oh, man. 50 and a half point total. it's a 50 and a half point total I kind of like the over I was going to say this is no trap I think it's going that way DAC is on fire
Starting point is 00:40:08 right now I think that you know what I think the sneaky line is whenever they release the receiving props CD Lamb going over 100 who's going to stop CD Lamb Dennis Allen plays so much man coverage who I mean who's stopping CD Lamb in this offense nobody has
Starting point is 00:40:24 through the first two weeks yeah Malik neighbors put on a show and Juan Dale Robinson put on a show. Wondell Robinson absolutely put on a show. So, yeah, I like that. That's a good line to watch. Because it's going to be set really high and everybody's like,
Starting point is 00:40:38 oh, well, it's set too high, like stay away. And it's like, well, there might not be a limit. Things like that happen, Trevor, I like the latter bet. So say CD, and I have no idea what this market's going to be for him with a point total that's the second highest of the week. It's 50 and a half. It's just off the top of my head, maybe it'll be like, 89 and a half what i i try to do in that scenario if i love the player i'll bet 80 yards 90
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Starting point is 00:43:05 which we're still going stock up guys, but I am going to read off some replies from you guys that are talking about some stock down candidates and now that we are like four, five, six weeks into the season, obviously we can start, I think, comfortably getting into that conversation of some guys
Starting point is 00:43:23 who are going to be, who are a little bit disappointed to start the season. We talked about that with Arch, but, I mean, Arch is sort of a different category with him. So I know we're talking about a lot of stock up guys to start the season. We will start to talk about the overall stock market of what's up, what's down with some of these prospects. But this week, once again, we're talking a lot about stock up guys. Yeah, for me right now, I'm just looking for more players in this class. I think when we get to October and beyond, there'll be a couple guys that were on my top 50 in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Now you've got to discuss why they're going to fall. I'm going to start with a throwback. This is somebody when he transferred to Michigan to play offball linebacker. I was really excited about him. Once again, going back to 2024 summer scouting, J. Sean Barham from Michigan, who now mostly plays on the edge. Good. And boy, was that the right decision? Because it's just all about explosiveness and speed with this guy.
Starting point is 00:44:16 This is coming off a week against Central Michigan, where he had two sacks. He had three run stops. One of those run stops was a tackle for loss. sometimes the sack production is really just a poor protection and he's so fast that he breaks through and finishes the play but if you go back to week one against New Mexico he had a rep where he absolutely smoked the left the right tackle and they called targeting on him it was a terrible terrible call it wasn't targeting in my opinion but besides that because targeting doesn't exist in the NFL it showed me Trevor that first step off the
Starting point is 00:44:53 ball and the speed around the outside shoulder to close in on the pocket is lethal this guy's burst is totally insane and playing him more on the edge rather than off ball linebacker right now and he's kind of a hybrid player but mostly playing edge is him being more seaball get ball get downhill utilize your burst upfield rather than i'm playing with more depth i'm reading and reacting i have to see it and then i use my speed and it has accelerated this guy's development I think Michigan made a great call. He looks like a legitimate speed rushing threat on the edge. He was somebody who, when we watched his off-ball linebacker tape,
Starting point is 00:45:34 the negatives were basically just retreating in coverage, playing that off-ball linebacker stuff. But what you loved is any time that he was going towards the line of scrimmage, he was like a bad out of hell. Yep. And you could tell he had a lot of speed to power to him, really nice explosiveness. And now that he is in a little bit more of that sort of pass-rusher role,
Starting point is 00:45:51 I think you're just compounding his strengths and I think you're mitigating the opportunities that teams could have to take away his weaknesses, or expose his weaknesses, I should say. So I like here in the fact that he, he, I mean, he'd be undersized for an edge rusher, right? Or what's he listed? By 245.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Okay, all right, that's fine. He's not. It's fine. For his play style, he, he's not that small. He's really not. He's like 6.3.245. So, I mean, dude, we just saw Jalen Walker go in the top 20. Not calling him Jalen Walker, but like, when you are, I called, there you go.
Starting point is 00:46:27 There you go, fine, I said it. He didn't even, fine, I said it. I said it, Jayshan Barham, top 20 pick, he's Jelan Walker. Done. There's no need to talk more about him, honestly. I said it to the industry source too. When they said, who's going in the top 20? I said, I got one for you.
Starting point is 00:46:45 What Gettelman think? Yeah, Gettlement was like, who the hell's that? You kids in your key. Boards. Gettleman's like, if he ain't 265, I'm not drafting him. Don't even talking. Don't even put him in my database. Yeah. Non-ball knower.
Starting point is 00:47:01 The first guy that I want to bring up, Chris Razzled the second, the wide receiver from Tennessee. Probably Tennessee, man. Ooh, buddy. Probably the most requested player that we had to watch this week. And I can understand why, because
Starting point is 00:47:17 he was a monster versus Georgia. I think he had three touchdowns versus Georgia. really just the whole season. He has been fantastic, at least from a, from a production standpoint. 84.4 receiving grade this season, 364 yards already through just three games, 20 receptions, five touchdowns in three games. He's got 10 explosive plays already, which is passes of 15 yards or more. 95.2 catchable passes caught percentage.
Starting point is 00:47:48 98.2 receiving grade on passes. of more than 20 yards. So he's listed at 6 foot 5, 200 pounds. So you guys, you were talking about him so much. You were shouting him out as somebody to watch. I decided to give him like the full evaluation. Like get him on the mock draft simulator, make sure that I've got the early scouting report written on him.
Starting point is 00:48:09 So 6 foot 5, 200 pounds. So that's 96th percentile in height because he's huge. And 200 pounds is 46 percentile. So right around the middle of wide receivers. But percentile is kind of tough for wide receivers because they're built in all different ways. So it's a little bit tough there. But he is certainly on the bigger side in a good way.
Starting point is 00:48:26 He's a former three-star wide receiver from the 2022 class. So he's a red shirt junior this year. He also played basketball when he was to high school, which you would expect just looking at the dude. He committed to Tulane, played at Tulane for two seasons. He redshirted his first year, and then the next year he started eight games. Last year, he actually started nine games with Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:48:48 But Connor, he had just like a 59.4, I believe. believe is what his receiving grade was last season. He had like an 80% catchable passes, caught percentage. The contested catch percentage was down. I mean, he was not effective at all whatsoever as a wide receiver last year. So that's why I,
Starting point is 00:49:06 when this guy started going off, I was like, how's Tennessee doing this? Where'd they get him from? And then I, after research, saw, oh, he's been on the roster.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Which is shocking in this era. Why didn't I hear more about him? Now, when I watch him play, I initially said, okay, well, they had Deonté Thornton, and that was basically Deontay Thornton's role, and he did it better. So I was like, okay, I guess I understand that. But then I looked more into his numbers last year, and he was just not very effective.
Starting point is 00:49:32 He wasn't comfortable. He wasn't confident when he was attacking the football last season for Tennessee. This year, he certainly looks better. Now, I'm not about to sit here and say that, like, I think he's a first-round pick type of a wide receiver despite the production. there is still, in my opinion, some good and some bad with him. The Georgia game, it's phenomenal. Like, obviously, if you watch the Georgia game, he was fantastic,
Starting point is 00:49:57 but there's even some strength and weaknesses that we saw from within the Georgia game. So the strengths for him. I'll list those off first. Long frame, somewhat slender for his build, but a massive catch radius. When the ball is in the air, he has the ability to pluck it, whether it is over his head, whether he is extending his hands in front of the defensive back, whatever he has got a massive catch radius and he is using those full extended arms to catch the football this year so much more than he has in the past so i love that he's using that tool even
Starting point is 00:50:28 more this year he has those very long strides to him and he is more build-up speed now that was also a little bit of a negative that i saw with him is man you watch that first game god i can't remember who they're playing in that first game i mean he is lumbering to get to full speed i mean he's getting off the line and you could see like the arms are chugging but he's he's like having to take a step and then a step and then a step and then a step and it's like he's got to get to step five or six before he's actually at his top speed where you watch so many other wide receivers I mean they can get open in two steps and they get open in three steps he's something like that so for him he is much more of just that vertical stretching wide receiver because of his his buildup speed
Starting point is 00:51:12 and sort of how he is built there. He's not super flexible. I don't think he's got great short area quickness and flexibility to him. He's not going to be a guy that's going to make you miss after the catch. Because of that, I also think that his route tree is a little bit limited.
Starting point is 00:51:28 He's running a go. He's running a skinny post. He's running a comeback or he's running a screen. They love these guys, though. They always have one. And that's what Tennessee is, but I'll get to that. I'll get to that in a second.
Starting point is 00:51:39 the deep catches are fantastic this year but they were bad last year and so it's a little bit of like okay like even the like even a couple of the Georgia catches the one in the second half is the one that comes to mind where it's just a bomb and the DB is right there and he kind of like gets his body and hand on it but Brasel sort of just like puts his arms out and the body
Starting point is 00:52:03 and the ball just kind of like goes to him and it's like I give him credit for that, but it's not like he showed this alpha coordination to go high point the ball and go get it up in the air. And even some good catches that he has deep down the field, I don't necessarily see that from him. So all of that to say with him, I think I like Deontay Thornton better. And Deonti Thornton got drafted, what was he, fifth round? I remember that correctly? I think earlier. Was he earlier than that? Yeah, they liked him a lot. I know, but I thought he was a...
Starting point is 00:52:42 He was in the fourth round. Fourth round, okay. Yeah, but pick 108, so I mean... Oh, that's pretty close to the third round then. So they got him as a... Drivet over Al-Gaiol Manor. Hey, I like Deonti Thorne. He has a skill set...
Starting point is 00:52:57 No, Thorne has a skill set that, like, it's not easy to find a guy that tall and that fast all the time. For sure, for sure. I also noticed a couple of times when I was watching Chris Brasel that, like, whether it was mainly, it was with blocking. He'd sometimes be one of the first people to let up on a play which I'd love to see him play through the whistle
Starting point is 00:53:15 in opportunities where he's not getting the ball certainly as a blocker because I think he's got the frame and the strength to be able to do it. But I felt like even that was a little inconsistent in the couple of games that I watched from him in 2025. Ultimately it's kind of another situation of well Tennessee's got another one he's just going to be their deep deep pass receiver and we've seen guy like
Starting point is 00:53:35 Jalen Hyatt, Deonti Thornton. Obviously now we have Brazle who's sort of in that similar role. And I think that he can be an NFL player, but I think he's playing at an NFL level for the first time this season. So it's a little bit tricky, given how much he struggled last year
Starting point is 00:53:54 versus what he is doing this year in Tennessee's offense as the vertical guy. I think it's going to come down to beauty as in the eye of the beholder. There are going to be people out there that see this year of Brazle, and obviously we're three games in, so he could go nuclear the rest of the year and maybe it's not a debate at all.
Starting point is 00:54:11 But as right now, the way that I see him is, you're going to have people that go, yeah, give me that guy, I'm all in. And you're going to have other people that go, I don't know, I think the inconsistencies are still there for him. And it's just going to be different from scout to scout depending on who you're talking to. He's a really interesting name because this did come out of nowhere. There's no way around it. And how many times have we seen Tennessee have explosive threats at Y, receiver in their offense that enter the giraffe radar right we saw it with jalen hyatt in a much
Starting point is 00:54:43 different mold cedric tillman obviously dante thornton so i'm really glad you brought this name to the show because he's one that you could be a casual college football watcher and you've seen him pop up on your tv already this season yeah okay who you got next illinois offensive tackle j c davis this is one i was you know we haven't talked a lot of linemen throughout stock up yet because you like to have a a couple weeks of a sample size to work with. But J.C. Davis, he's a veteran on this line. This line returned a lot of their starters. He's their left tackle.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's funny because you brought up Vincent Anthony, the edge rusher on Duke recently. And Anthony gave J.C. Davis a really tough day in past protection. And that said a lot about Anthony. But it also is a important point to note. I don't think the NFL is going to look at J.C. Davis and evaluate him as a left tackle. he is an interesting player because he doesn't have short arms i think his arms are 34 and 3 eighths which definitely passes the threshold but you watch what he's best that and how he's built he's 6 3 and 7 8s
Starting point is 00:55:50 333 pounds this dude is a mauling you know core strength anchor strength kind of guard and i think that he's playing tackle because he's illinois best option at left tackle and that That line is pretty good, but I think it's easier to like him when you watch him and project him on the inside at the next level. And Davis is somebody that, you know, after he had a little bit of a tough day in pass pro against a guy like Minson Anthony that's going to give him problems with some length and some speed on the outside, I thought he bounced back really well against Western Michigan this week. He had a shutout and pass protection. But what stands out to me more importantly is the traits. and when you're trying to transition them to guard, dude, Trevor, this guy is just,
Starting point is 00:56:38 he's nasty in a phone booth. Like when they run inside zone or they get him dry blocking downhill, there's times where he'll like combo or they'll have him working a double and he could just dump somebody with one arm. He generates so much strength from his hamstrings and his base, like all the girth in his base,
Starting point is 00:56:58 that it's so easy for him to just get working downhill and drive through, defenders to the ground. So J.C. Davis against Western Michigan, obviously the numbers are going to pop. 84.9 pass blocking grade. He didn't allow pressure. 81.2 run blocking grade. But as a player with traits, I think this guy could be a really good left guard prospect for us. Yeah, I see him as more of a guard, but I do think that he has the skill set to be at NFL caliber guard. So I do agree with you there. Yeah. So that Illinois team, they have a lot of veterans, and he's one of the key guys. And they play Indiana at Indiana this weekend. So you'll, with all the crazy stuff Indiana does with their
Starting point is 00:57:36 defensive line, like you'll get more really important tape for Davis. Let's go. Excited for that. It's going to be a great game. Mansour Delane, the corner from LSU. He is one of two LSU players that I'm talking about here as a stock up candidate. Delane has always been somebody who I've been intrigued with because I've always felt like he's got great movement skills. Like even going back to last year when he was draft eligible and he was with Virginia Tech, I thought the hips were oily. I thought that he could flip. I thought he could run. I think he's got good top speed. He can come downhill and trigger downhill for run defense reps. All of that was there for him. I love the movement skills from Mansour to Lane. The issue is he's listed at 187 and unfortunately I've seen him play
Starting point is 00:58:14 like that too much when it comes to tackling or being physical with defenders or getting off of blocks, whatever that is. So I've always been, I've always felt like the athleticism was good, but I didn't know how much I was going to let that outweigh, full pun intended, the lack of of weight that he had. And when that shows up in his games, man, he is putting his best foot forward now at LSU to say, yeah, I'm a little bit more slender when it comes to the scale, but you're going to draft me because I can cover wide receivers based on any round. I'm with you. And that, that has been him so far this season. 89.5 coverage grade, 83.8 coverage grade on passes of 20 or more yards.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I mean, he is locking dudes down. I've watched this guy locked dudes out, whether it was the Clemson game or the Florida game. He's covering mesh concepts. He's covering slants. He's covering dig routes. He'll cover nines. He's covering posts. I mean, it's just that flexibility,
Starting point is 00:59:14 the fluidity of his hips that is so alluring with him as a defender. And I mentioned he's playing a little bit better this year. He's playing a little bit stronger this year. Now, I still see him get overpowered a little bit, but 71.2 run defense grade this year. That's better than it was in years past. 18 targets to him, Connor, just four catches and 36 yards allowed.
Starting point is 00:59:34 He's got six forced incompletions. That is a 33.3% forced incompletion percentage so far this year, which is incredible. I love the active hands that he is playing with. He is disrupting the catch point at all times. He is in hip pockets at all times, no matter who he's been going up against. And there's been some good competition that LSU's played. so far to start the season. And he is just playing so confidently.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Confidence is such an important part of playing the cornerback position. I know it's important for everything, but playing corner specifically. And Mansour Delane is playing it at a very high level. He's got the adequate athleticism. And now he's playing with that bonus confidence as well. He is a shutdown corner. And he is somebody that will be in my top 50. I don't know exactly where he's going to be next week when we end up updating that big board.
Starting point is 01:00:23 and we end up going through it, but he is going to be a top 50 player for me with how he is playing this season. Dude, he looks awesome. Every game, every LSU game, they're one team that I've gotten to actually watch most of their games on broadcast the day of. It's just been fortunate enough that they weren't playing
Starting point is 01:00:41 like when we're on the air or whatever it may be. And they played a lot of big games like you said, so you want to watch them. He pops on broadcast tape, not just all 22 at corner because he's constantly playing the ball. So Delane, and I love that you brought up the confidence because he was somebody that was credited with giving up those seven touchdowns last year. And you looked at it and it always felt like he would give too much cushion when he wasn't confident and somebody would catch the ball and beat him for the touchdown. And then when he was trying to not let people do that, they'd get over the top of him.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And he just didn't have the answers. And it's like, this is a good player in 2023. This is a player that started almost 30 games for Virginia Tech. He just had a down year at a bad time. And boy, did he find the right home at LSU? Because forget that down year. He is playing at such a high level right now for LSU. And that'll flow into the last guy that I'm going to talk about here for this.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I don't want to get to him right away. I want to get to your guy first. But how they play defense specifically. I mean, Delane, they are letting him play press man corner. They are letting him play cat coverage. Cover that cat. Don't let him catch the football. And that is where he absolutely thrives.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And the aggressiveness of that LSU defense is really showing up in a lot of ways. But before I get to my last guy, who do you have for yours? This is one that jumped out to me in the Florida LSU game. Yeah, I don't even know who this is. You wrote this on the sheet. I don't even know who this is. George Gumbs Jr. The edge player for Florida, I did not know a ton about him.
Starting point is 01:02:20 What a story. I mean, this is a former wide receiver recruit. He was 210 pounds. He starts his career as a wide receiver at Northern Illinois. He plays some special teams. He plays some tight end the first two years. He switches the defense event. The green lights kind of come on for him.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Now he's just that he's an edge-setting beast at Florida. He really is. You turn on the tape of him playing against the run against LSU. And it's like, what the hell? This guy is just constantly crashing into tackles and pullers and all kinds of blockers and taking on contact at 6-4, 250 pounds. He's a stand-up edge. He's just got zero fear against the run.
Starting point is 01:03:07 He really does. I mean, you go into our database, Trevor. He had 11 snaps playing the run. He had a positive run-defense-grade impact, which means he, He had like a game changing play against the run on 54.5% of them. So a lot. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:03:27 For context, everybody, if you had like a 20%, it would be like, hey, that's a pretty good day. Stopping the run. He makes the most of his snaps. And I'll say this because I kind of looked at him like, oh, he's just kind of this power and gritty, tough run edge, like set the edge, hold the point of attack, get off the block and make the tackle. He had a rush in this game. against LSU's right tackle that he had a sick ghost move on. And the tackle, he beat the tackle so fast with the ghost move that the tackle tackled him by the neck to the ground.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And he got the flag. The ref pulled the flag right away. It was one of the most ridiculous holds I've ever seen. And he actually might have got banged up on it because he got up really slowly after. I mean, he got wrapped around the helmet and kind of brought down like WWE style. but the move was, I was like, damn, this guy has just found it as a stand-up edge.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And the fact that he was playing tight end and wide receiver a couple years ago at freaking Northern Illinois, I'm kind of excited right now about George Gumbs, Jr., man. This is, this is your, got to be your guy, Trevor. Respect him. I see that he is the highest graded defender that we have. He's got a 16.2% passers win percentage. It's like I'm just, I'm looking at his numbers right now. He is.
Starting point is 01:04:48 He's the highest, he is the highest graded run defender or just overall pass rusher that we have on the team, which is, I mean, hey, we need it because I don't know if we're going to score points this season. The pain in your voice right now. You're just disgusted that Florida is making the airwaves at the moment. It's okay. I'm tired to this. Shout to George Gomez, Jr. Shout at the Gumby. Gumpy.
Starting point is 01:05:11 There it is. I don't know if we can call him that anymore because he looks stacked at two things. I don't think we can call him. It sounds like the Hulk, but yeah, stacked. All right, so the last guy that I want to talk about here on the stock watch is A.J. Halsey, who is the safety for LSU. And I was talking, I was mentioning how this guy that we're going to bring up is perfect for the way that we talked about the lane. So what LSU does, not always, but what they do a lot, they will play their corners in true. coverage. They will play true cover one and they will let
Starting point is 01:05:52 AJ Halsey essentially do whatever he wants. Cover this however you want. If you think that you've got to play over the top on a safety, do that. If you think you want to play as a robber, if you think you want to lean towards the tight end side to the slot receiver's side to the trip side, like whatever it is, they let him read the quarterback and it is a big time advantage for them with how this guy has played. I want to make sure
Starting point is 01:06:21 that I get his background information right. But so far this season, he has a 77.8 overall grade. He has an 81.0 coverage grade. He has an interception. He's got a forced in completion. He's got eight career interception. So he's got five picks last year.
Starting point is 01:06:36 At Houston. Yeah. Three out of the four years that he has played college football, he has a coverage grade above 80. This dude knows how to get after the football. so he is a senior this year he is six feet tall 22 pounds six feet tall for his safety is right around 35 35th percentile 20 22 pounds the safety is 95 percentile like he is he is a big
Starting point is 01:07:01 dude so it's a it's a smaller frame but it's a thicker stout frame that you know that he can he can take some punishment with which is kind of ironic given his scouting report but i'll get to that in a second so he was a three-star recruit in the 22 class he can admitted to New Mexico State. He started nine games to true freshman in 2022. Transfer to Houston, started all 12 games in 2023, started all 12 games in 2024. You mentioned how well he played last season with those five interceptions. Then he transfers over to LSU.
Starting point is 01:07:30 He has, I mean, this is, I won't pretend to have watched every single safety in college football. I would be surprised if there is anybody in the country who is better at robber roles than A.J. Hawsey. the way that he reads quarterback's eyes and anticipates where they're going is so, so good. I mean, he had, he had Kade Klubnick in hell in that first week. I mean, he had D.G. Lagway in hell on the third week. They're looking over the middle of the field, and all of a sudden, like, Halsey's running exactly to where they're going to throw the ball.
Starting point is 01:08:11 And a couple of times, Lagway through it. And a couple of times, you could tell Kay Klubnik goes, why is he there already? And it's almost like he's staring at the quarterback going, hey, yeah, here I am. This is where you're throwing the ball. Go ahead. The anticipation that he has is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:08:28 He's got such a great feel for where the ball is going. He's got great ball skills. And when I mean that, I mean not just when the ball is near him coming down with it for an interception, but also the path that he takes to the ball and the anticipation and the timing that he's, he has is that defender. Now, I don't have elite speed, so he's not this, like, when you put him in single high
Starting point is 01:08:48 situations, that's why I say, like, LSU's kind of got the perfect coverage group right now, because it's corners that can all play press man, and they can all cover deep if they need to in press man and stay in phase with wide receivers. And it truly allows Halsey to just roam the middle of the field and be an absolute menace. any time one of these quarterbacks thought they had an easy completion to a deep over route or a dig route or something
Starting point is 01:09:19 like a quick slam from the slot, whatever it is. I mean, he's there. He's reading this almost the second that the play begins. So I think that he knows what he's looking at from a film perspective. He can anticipate things really well. Now, the negatives for him is that even though that he has a little
Starting point is 01:09:35 bit more pounds on him, he just doesn't love tackling as much as he loves coverage stuff. Like whether it's run, whether it's pass rush he's just not he he's not as passionate about running into guys at full speed uh the way that he is running into where the ball is going to be to go make a play in coverage so if he was a little bit more tenacious violent full speed at those responsibilities i mean we would be talking about in my opinion a top 50 safety now i think he's a top 100 safety but how well he rounds out his game as a run defender will sort of
Starting point is 01:10:11 of, he's not built like Kaelin Bullock, but the conversations sort of like Caleb Bullock, where he was like, hey, this is an elite coverage defender for you, but he's not super reliable in run defense. I think Halsey can be a better run defender just because he's got more weight on him. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Shoot, what did Bullock come in at? Like 185, 190, something like that. I mean, he's skinny. Halsey's different. But I was so impressed with how he played against Florida. I went back and I watched and I was so impressed with how he played against Clemson. This is, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:10:41 a very instinctual and difference-making safety at the NFL level. If you could put him in the right role where you could just let him roam the middle of the field to be a menace. How pissed do you think DJ Lagway is going to be after Halsey picked him off in college when one day in the NFL, Halsey is covering him out of the slot or off the line of scrimmage when the lagway's at the tight end? He's like, oh, this guy again, I can't get away from this guy. I'm going to read an ad now.
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Starting point is 01:12:44 I was like, oh, man, this guy's got ball skills. I love the way they use them. And then I, instead of giving, like, a good response, I had to get a joke off. Hey, you know what? Get them off now. Get them off now. Because DJ's coming for the Heisman in two years. Get your last laughs in, folks.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I don't know if it'll probably won't be a Florida, but when he goes to when he transfers to A&M, you know. Oh, God. New name? Okay. Yeah, new name to the table. Who you got? How about Miami running back Mark Fletcher Jr.? right now oh i watched him for summer so he didn't make my we didn't i don't think we talked about i don't
Starting point is 01:13:17 think we did no no no because he wasn't in my what do we do like top 12 or top 10 or whatever yeah but okay all right so you watched him mark fletcher junior is off to a really really strong start as the guy on this team right now he had uh 15 carries for 66 yards against notre dame and then in week two against Bethune Cook, he had 86 yards. But then he really, he took the stage this week against USF, because that was a big game, obviously, against USF, where he had 16 carries, 121 yards. But more importantly, Trevor, nine mistackles forced.
Starting point is 01:13:56 When you look at Fletcher, Jr., he is listed at 6-2, I think 225 pounds, or, yeah, 225, he looks it. Like, you look at him in the backfield. They actually, they had some kind of pony package at a shotgun. I think it was their other running back or like a gadget player. Either way, they had another skill player in the backfield. And he looked twice the size of the other skill player in the pony package. His build looks exactly like Naji Harris at Alabama,
Starting point is 01:14:27 where you're like, that dude is bigger than everybody else. But then he gets the ball and he's so big that tacklers are hesitating on what to do against him and he can cut and he can make them miss. and then he knows how to run through people against USF. He had four explosive runs, runs of 10 plus yards. He had 5.6 yards after contact per attempt. So he was getting hit and generating about six yards after that per attempt. So this is somebody that, and he caught a couple passes.
Starting point is 01:14:58 One was a really nice catch and run to the sideline for a first down. Fletcher Jr. is a power runner that can do a little bit of the ballet dancing in the open field because he utilizes his power so well at the line of scrimmage that second and third level defenders are kind of overthinking what to do with him in the open field because he's always bigger than them. I am really, really impressed with his ability to get upfield and make something happen.
Starting point is 01:15:22 And this Miami team that has so much talent, him breaking out. And I know he played enough last year, but they have really leaned into him being a cog of their run game now. I mean, he, so when I watched him over the summer, there were times that I thought that he could play even more. more consistently powerful at his size. And from the little that I have seen him this year, it looks like he is doing that
Starting point is 01:15:43 at a much more consistent basis. I also am curious, did you watch his pass-protecting reps? Because I have noted here already one of the best pass-protecting backs in the class just from his underclassman tape. No, I know. So he graded out really high in this game.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I watched the snaps where he ran a route, but it looks like he had six pass blocks and graded out really highly. and that doesn't surprise me because he is so big and his movement skills are impressive enough so the fact that he's clearly carrying that over to pass pro
Starting point is 01:16:16 is another awesome. I'm telling you like he I know people look at Najee differently now because he has definitely slowed down over the years. But like Najee Harris when he was a prospect was a really exciting player. This guy reminds me of Alabama
Starting point is 01:16:32 Najee Harris. He does. All right. Yeah. I mean that's high pre. I mean, Naji was drafted. First round. by the Steelers. Yeah, like 26 or something, whatever it was. I can't remember exactly where it was, but I mean, he was the first round pick.
Starting point is 01:16:43 I don't know if Flesh is going to be a first round pick, but like the skill set's absolutely there for him. Yeah, I think teams are a little bit more cautious about taking that kind of guy in the first round these days, although Marion Hampton was different, but Hampton still went in the first round. But yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, when I say that the skill sets there for him, I mean for him to have a similar, like, Naji Harris field to him, I didn't, I didn't mean like skills.
Starting point is 01:17:03 No, I know. If he was a top 75 pick, though, when it's all said done and be like, yeah, I'm not shocked. I mean, when you're that big and strong and you're pretty good at all three phases of the game, then you should probably go that early. Big people beat up little people. That is one of the mantras of the NFL. I'm going to talk about Josh Hoover,
Starting point is 01:17:18 the quarterback from TCU. This is somebody who got a lot of shoutouts last week from the addicts of players that we should watch. And I didn't have time to get to Hoover, but this week I did. So I want to make sure that I get to his breakdown in full. So he's a redshirt junior at TCU. He is 6'2, 200 pounds, so a little bit smaller, 32nd percentile in height, third percentile
Starting point is 01:17:43 in weight. So, yeah, not, not, he doesn't have great measurables, and we'll get into that sort of, as we sort to talk about him here, but he was a three-star quarterback from Rockwall, Texas, also played baseball when he was in high school. He redshirted his first year, started six games in 2023, started all 13 games last year, and he is once again a starter this year. His dad, Alex Hoover, was a linebacker at Colorado State, also played in the end. NFL. He is grading very well so far this season. Through two games, because they had the
Starting point is 01:18:10 week off in week two. They started with UNC, had the week off, and then I think they played Abilene Christian. Through two games, 85.1 passing grade, and he also had an 84.3 passing grade last season, so two consistent years of him being a pretty good passer. He's got three big time throw. He's got two turnover worthy plays. He has a 78, 5.8 adjusted completion percentage. He's got six touchdowns and won an interception on the year. Has a 10.0 average step to target, which is up a full two yards from what it was last year. So when I watch Hoover, it's just a easy on the eyes type of a watch, I should say.
Starting point is 01:18:48 When it hikes the football, the ball is where it should be. He's holding the ball up near his shoulders. It's tight. The throwing motion is quick, concise. It's powerful. It's compact. He's nimble on his feet, but he doesn't let him being quick on his feet
Starting point is 01:19:01 mean that he's leaving the pocket early. He still has a good pocket presence to him. he'll still hang in the pocket when he needs to. He's just got such smooth touch passes. I mean, that's really the calling card of his game, if you ask me. When he's got to put some extra air under it, let the wide receiver run under it, he had a handful, especially in 2024, because I watched some 2024 tape as well since 2025 is so new this year. There were some passes last year where it was just gorgeous, the touch passes.
Starting point is 01:19:26 So you know that he's got that in the arsenal to be able to go to whenever he wants. Now in 2024, what I watched of him is I watched somebody that had well below average arm strength for the NFL level, well below. And when you talk about the fact that he's six foot two, 200 pounds, well below the measurable percentile, unfortunately, that checks out. And it's hard to really love a guy for the NFL level if his measurables are small and you don't believe in his arm. So that is something that I consistently saw on tape from him last year. when he was cranking up the RPMs, that's when you really started to see him miss, when he had to really put some extra gas and some juice on the fastball.
Starting point is 01:20:10 That's when you would see the accuracy dip. That's when he would, if he saw a throw late and he tried to put more of his body into it, it's not going exactly where it needed to. So when he was in structure, it could look good from him. But when he had to make those split-second decisions, he didn't necessarily have the arm to be able to get it there. Anything past 30, 35 yards,
Starting point is 01:20:28 and it was also a little squirrely for him to get the ball where he needed to, at the pace in which he needed to get the ball there to make sure defenders weren't closing and his wide receivers were able to maximize any of the separation that they were able to get vertically. Now, I will say this. Two games into 2025,
Starting point is 01:20:46 he looks like he's got more juice in his arm. And I think it's because he is getting more power from his lower half. He's getting more power from his hips and the torque that he has as he kind of comes through because that throwing motion is still compact. he is just I mean he is whipping it faster than what he was the previous season so when we talk about arm talent there's not a lot of room for guys to get better with arm talent a lot of times like
Starting point is 01:21:13 that kind of is what it is but Hoover is a nice reminder of hey this kid's still well a kid he's still 20 years old he's still getting stronger he's still growing he's still improving and maximizing his throwing motion and his mechanics and this year he has more juice and velocity on his passes. So I am a lot more encouraged about him. Now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that he's, you know, a day two or day one pick. But I watched his 2024 stuff and I was like, I don't think this guy is a draftable NFL quarterback. I'm watching him this year and I go, okay, I can see it. Let's watch the, let's see the year play out. But I could see him being a draftable quarterback when it's all said and done even with some of those smaller measurables to him.
Starting point is 01:21:59 He reminds me a little bit of Stetson Bennett, a little bit like Stetson Bennett in that regard where he's just like, man, physically you look at him and I think he's bigger than Stetson Bennett, but it's just one of those quarterbacks where you look at him and you just want to write him off. But then you watch him and, okay, the arm's got a little bit more juice than you thought. He's not going to wow you with it, but it's capable enough. And to be honest with you, man, Stetson Bennett's played some preseason games where he's been nails. Like, he's show, like, there's a reason why the Rams keep him on. the roster yeah it's because i think that he is capable of playing at the nfl level despite being
Starting point is 01:22:35 uh much smaller on the measurable perspective so i'm not saying it's it's a it's a for sure one for one comp but it was kind of the the feel that i got when i was watching hoover and uh the fact that he was able to increase his arm strength and just his overall arm talent or at least the execution of it this season has been uh good to watch so i'm excited to watch him as the year goes on it is funny to go back to stetson bennett on this show because he was taking it with a fourth round pick 128th overall, which is pretty high in the moment. Right. As we were talking about Noah Fafita and you're now talking about Hoover, I mean, Stets and
Starting point is 01:23:09 Benet was 511-192. So once again, the conversations around Hoover and Fafita, they aren't, you know, can you be that size and go in the first two rounds? But can you be a day three pick and develop as a backup that can get your team by with these injuries that are week to week? because you play fast, you know the system, you have enough arm talent, and really what's in between the ears
Starting point is 01:23:35 kind of gives your arm town a little bit of a boost. Like, do you need to have this absolute rocket launcher when you're seeing things earlier than a lot of other people? No, it's the same concept of linebackers with instincts and linebackers that are elite athletes and the split of the two.
Starting point is 01:23:52 If you have instincts, you actually might be just get to the ball as fast as the guy that's really, fast because he doesn't have the instincts to see it. It's the guys that blend both that are special. But there's just not enough humans in this world that have both. So if a guy can play the position like you're saying with Hoover and like I'm saying with Favita, then the NFL is at least going to give them a look.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Who the hell thought Jake Browning would not only still be around in the NFL right now? Right. But actually viewed for a team as they're like, he's developed in that system as the backup that they want every year behind a guy in Joe Burrow that we love, but it's heard a lot. So it does happen. I agree, man. I think that there's, again, watching him in 2024, I would have told you, no, he's not getting drafted.
Starting point is 01:24:36 But watching him this year, there's a chance. It's a chance. Let's watch play out. But I was very impressed by the improvement. I felt like he showed in an area where a lot of guys just don't improve, and he was able to do so going into this year. So excited to continue to watch him.
Starting point is 01:24:53 All right, let's get you some shoutouts from the addicts here. draft geek saying okay Chris Brasel huge showing against Georgia and again like going back to it now that I'm kind of like thinking of it I feel like I was
Starting point is 01:25:06 a little bit too much of a hater on Brazle I just when I was watching him it's like man like he I do think that he has a lot of potential I just didn't think the ad that rare movement skills but I will say this I watched the Syracuse game first
Starting point is 01:25:18 and that was my first impression and a lot of sort of what I said there was the baseline of what I saw versus Syracuse against George's Georgia, he looked more amped up. Like, he looked, the releases were faster. Some of the brakes were faster. And so which one of him am I going to get as the year goes on?
Starting point is 01:25:34 Is it the Syracuse one? Is it the Georgia one? Because if it's much more of the Georgia one, then yeah, I think that we're talking about a guy that could be a top 100 pick in the 2026 NFL draft. But a lot of you are shouting out, Brazel, and that was a big reason why I wanted to watch him for the show. J.T. Sam, Mark Fletcher, your guy, shouted him out.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Grace and Barnes, the tight-exam. for West Virginia. I haven't watched him. Darryl Gill Jr., the wide receiver from Syracuse. T.J. Winger wanted us to shout out Casey Concepcion. You liked him in SummerSculpt. I did like him a lot. And man, the A&M dudes, so that was our game this weekend. One of our games. We also had Ohio, Ohio State. But obviously Notre Dame A&M was primetime NBC.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Those A&M receivers can freaking fly. It is the Notre Dame corners. Christian Gray. I mean, who was like a dude. These Notre Dame corners could not run with these guys. They could not. They were actually missed on a couple throws. Leonard Moore could.
Starting point is 01:26:34 Leonard Moore could. But they could. Leonard Moore might be a first round pick next year. But I mean, there was a lot of throws left on the field. And I am still won. There are other receiver who is small but can freaking fly. He's a sophomore. He's not eligible.
Starting point is 01:26:49 What's his name? I'm pulling it up right now. He was Mario Craver. Oh, my goodness. Oh, Craver. Mario Craver blink and look out. And yeah, they have Bussie as well. Is Craver the one who's a junior?
Starting point is 01:27:03 He's a sophomore. So is Bussie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I mean, if Reed keeps developing and he missed some throws in this game, look out for that offense. Yeah, Casey in this game, four catches, 82 yards, 20.5 yards per. I mean, he probably had the one that won them, the game. game it got them down on the other side of the field with not a lot of time left right away yeah he
Starting point is 01:27:30 has been really impressive uh at least from a statistical output and he was um oh man where he's where was he before he was um nc state yes he was at nc state before which by the way hollywood smothers the guy who they like took over for him in the backfield who was a little better than offensive weapon did you see the game that he had no i got to look this up hold on i because somebody else shouted him out. Whoops. Hollywood Smothers stats. Yeah, here we go.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Because his numbers were crazy this past week. Let me see. He had 24 carries, 164 rushing yards. I mean, he was just an absolute, the last two weeks, actually. The week before, he had 17 carries 140 yards. And against Wake Forest, he had 24 carries, 164 yards.
Starting point is 01:28:24 I mean, he has been a monster so far this season. He has been fantastic. Gray Hubbard, the safety from Alabama, 92.1 defensive grade at a 91.8 coverage grade this past week, so great to see that. Jay Wack was giving us that shout out. Brian said, I want to stock watch on Trevor's golf game. Oh.
Starting point is 01:28:46 I'm going to get a swing analysis slash fitted for clubs on Friday. New clubs time? You know, I have never I've never not had hand me down clubs from my dad. All the clubs, all the clubs I've ever owned in my life are just my dad's clubs.
Starting point is 01:29:10 And the driver specifically, it's funny. I have a little bit of lean back like in my driver like naturally. And so my dad's driver was tuned to him to get more air under it, loft under it. And I naturally have too much. So I'm just skying the crap out of my drives every single time. That's, and you hit the ball far.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I've seen you post your data. So like, if you have a driver that you have less loft, you can hit the ball even further than you already are. I think I would, I would consistently hit it over 300 pretty easily if I I had, uh, if I had a driver that was actually tuned to what I needed. Dude, that's, that's exciting, man. I remember as an adult the first time I bought clubs and I didn't use them for a while, but like, it was a big moment.
Starting point is 01:30:04 It was like, I'm doing, I'm doing this. Like, I'm actually going to lean into it. So, and yeah, right, like, there are your clubs. Like, they've never been hit before you. It's a different feeling. And the best part about having no more excuses is I just get to hate myself more. Yeah, no, that's the best part. Like, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to,
Starting point is 01:30:22 pay a dumb amount of money just to hate myself more. They are fit to me. They are precisely supposed to help me not smack the club 10 feet into the mud and here we are.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Oh God, or top the ball. Great sport. Love it. Anthony is giving us more context here. Hollywood Smothers. 380 rushing yards on the season, 286 of them coming after contact. 20 missed tackles forced.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Love that. He also is saying, curious how you guys view Peter Woods, if he's maybe a stock down player, been really strong against the run, but only one pressure in three games so far. So that's somebody that we're probably going to watch next week as a potential like stock down guy to talk about there.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Charlie's shouting out Jeremy Bernard, the wide receiver from Alabama, who's looked good so far this season. Boy, Ty Simpson looked good as well. Bernard, yeah, that's a good call out. I got to revisit him because he had some big grades, but who Jeremy Simpson or no Bernard
Starting point is 01:31:24 yeah yeah we got somebody who's shouting out Gunner Stockton who is draft eligible and he is playing pretty well to start the season here he might be somebody that we've got to watch we got a couple for
Starting point is 01:31:38 Bishop Fitzgerald he's the safety from USC I don't know anything about him at all there's also so I he was going to be stock up I think after two weeks or one week for me because his grades are insane. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:31:54 But I think they hadn't played anyone. I watched him. I've watched him, and I was going to use him. Yeah, this is why. So he played against Purdue now, which is better. But I'd watched him after two weeks. They played against Missouri State. And then I think they played against Georgia State.
Starting point is 01:32:15 So I held off. But he's, he has huge grades in the, system and has made he's got three picks already like it's okay he's coming he's all right okay i'll watch him i'll watch him also the safety earl little junior i i need to watch him he has been on my watch list for like three weeks that just haven't had time to get the safeties so i will watch those two guys and i'll make sure that uh that that that i get uh my thoughts on those guys out to y'all um cow cornerback hezekiah masses have not heard of him either but he got a couple of shoutouts here from the addicts.
Starting point is 01:32:54 CJ Daniels from Miami, got to get to his tape. Sean saying Washington left tackle, Carver Willis. Yeah, we got to. Oh, yeah, I think we shouted him out. We might have. I think we shout out. Oh, Mikhail Eastine is the other guy that we got to watch from Kansas State. Our guy, friend of the show and very good draft analysts in our industry,
Starting point is 01:33:16 James Foster, he DM me for this episode and said, Quincy Rhodes Jr. He is the defensive tackle. He's kind of like a higher. He's 6-6-276, but he plays up front for Arkansas. He's off to a good start this season. I got to get into the tape, but I know he's popped off a bit. And James is someone that he's very early on guys.
Starting point is 01:33:39 All right. Yeah. Okay. I will watch him immediately after this. Got to get to him. Dane Key, got a couple of shout out for Dane Key. the wide receiver from Nebraska who was at Kentucky and of course
Starting point is 01:33:52 Cleve Lubbin getting another shout out there he is again you can't miss him I've known up to check up he's real this time Cleve Lubbin aka the lobotomizer I thought he's the heartbreaker no no no that's not no I got a new one
Starting point is 01:34:12 God the human lobotomy no no that one doesn't work that one doesn't work That'd be terrifying to take the field And right before the field Somebody goes You know it's on the other side line And you're like, who?
Starting point is 01:34:25 The lobotomizer I'd be like, yeah I think I'm a healthy scratch today, coach Thanks All of a sudden my ankle is twisted in half We would love to hear from you guys Our thoughts here on these prospects As well as anything else
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