NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Charity Mock Draft MARATHON Round 4! (with CFB Analysts Max and Dalton)

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Connor, I think it's time we go a little rapid fire here. Yeah, we'll make up some ground. Yeah, I think we got to go. I think we got to go rapid fire. Probably the next, let's get 50 picks in before we get our next guess in, like maybe at like 415, 420, something like that. That sounds good. I feel like we could run through.
Starting point is 00:00:29 We'll rapid fire. I'm going to feed the big girl. And then we're going to take this thing to the finish line. All right, Tennessee Titans, who'd be happy? have who we have them take him. Your my love, Jacob Rodriguez, or mellow height.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Yep. Actually, let's go. Let's look at tight end. Let's do, let's do odds and evens again, because it'll be quicker for us to be able to like plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:53 So you go, you go Titans and then on and then I'll take the Raiders. I'm going to take Casmaric, the Y tight end from Ohio State. Okay. He's just such a good blocker. He's super underrated in this draft. I know he's the last guy.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah, Will Casmaric right there. Yeah, Will Casmeric. He's going earlier than people think. All right. Can I see the Raiders here? Um, Fernando Mendoza, Casey Concepcion, Dominique Orange. Ooh, I think this is a Camari Ramsey spot. I'm going to get Comari Ramsey off the board here.
Starting point is 00:01:20 I'm not as low on Camari Ramsey as other people are. I really like what he was able to do two years ago. It wasn't so good this past year, but I think he's still a really good football player. So the Jets at 103 have taken Arvel Reese, Jordan Tyson, C.J. Allen and Chase Bessantis. they're another team that should be looking at tight end in this situation for to play with of course Mason Taylor although they need a true wide tight end maybe they wait on that yeah this is tricky this spot let's look at corner
Starting point is 00:01:54 Malik Muhammad Chandler Rivers let's go let's go Malik Muhammad for the Jets here and get some corner depth all right so the Arizona Cardinals are up here they took sunny styles Caleb Lomu Kieran Crawford let's see what might they need I don't love safety long term for them
Starting point is 00:02:24 I think they're okay at oh actually okay they took styles so Stiles is right in there could they go defensive tackle like true nose tackle? Maybe I mean Roy Lopez is there so he's starting obviously very obviously let's see
Starting point is 00:02:42 another wide receiver maybe oh i don't hate wide receiver can i see wide receiver ah deion burks let's get him off the board my man yeah let's get dion barks of the board giants went spencer fano christin miller they needed some wide receiver help here deeper into this room i know they added some free agents to play with malik neighbors but let's look at the wide receiver room oh bryce lance could be perfect for them i like as a deep threat type of a wide receiver let's go with brys lance to stretch the
Starting point is 00:03:09 field okay all right houston what do we got for houston they picked caleb banks Cedarian Price, Logan Jones, Anthony Hill. I actually like the outside corner depth here. Let's go with Julianneal. Let's get Julianneal off the board. Really great athlete, somebody who could play behind the two starting corners that we have there in Laster and Stingley, and it gives you some good depth there at that point.
Starting point is 00:03:36 All right, the Browns are on the clock. They have taken Monroe, Freeling, Denzel, Boston, AJ Halsey, and Connor Liu. I want to see a corner. Actually, let's go, this is where I'll take Igbenosin. I know he's got the penalty issues, but he's really physical. He's their type of, yeah. He's a big corner.
Starting point is 00:03:57 He's their type. Let's go Igbenosin. Love moving costs. Okay, so for the Broncos, got corner unlock. Oh, man. They do have Drew Sanders to play linebacker that I'm kind of like speaking out loud here. I like their defense fine depth. I kind of want to go into your offensive line.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Can I see interior offensive line for them? I like Cage Casey or Brian Parker. Two technicians. Actually, Jagger Burton as well. He's like a bigger player. You know, let's go Brian Parker, though. Let's go Brian Parker. He plays center for you.
Starting point is 00:04:42 He can play guard for you. I think that that's a good all-around pick for them. She's at 109. The chef's on it. He knows exactly what we need to see immediately before we get into it. You're killing it, chef. Down Sadiq Pons, Brazil. Is Kilgore still available?
Starting point is 00:04:56 I think he is. I'm going to double up at safety here because him and Caleb can play such different roles. Let's go Jalen Kilgore. I agree. I do agree with that one. The Cincinnati Bengals, wow, Ruben Bain, Jake Golda, Keith Abney. Boy, what a draft here. Can I see guards again?
Starting point is 00:05:12 I'm going to go into your offensive line again. Their type is, is Jacob Burton. Do I think he's going to go this high? Let me think. No, actually, give me. Tray Zune. I'm going to take Tray Zune here. Zun's played offensive tackle, but he can play center, he can play guard for you. I think he's got a ton
Starting point is 00:05:33 of versatility there. Yeah, I think, I think Zune's a good pick for him. All right, Broncos got Stowers and Brian Parker. I'm going to look at interior D-line in this spot. And this is where I'm going to take Daryl Jackson, Jr. get some size.
Starting point is 00:05:49 He's got insane raw ability. You just got to get his pad level down. Right. Yeah. The Dallas Cowboys, I think linebackers probably what we're looking at here for them. We thought about that at 92. We went like Washington. Let's see. Jimmy Rolder, I actually really like. He had a really good year. Really good run defender. Again, he's a smaller linebacker, but a lot of these guys are a little bit smaller. I think Rolder is going to get picked a lot higher than the 205 consensus. I think that's just
Starting point is 00:06:17 because a lot of people don't have have eyes on him. I like him more than Tori in York. I love Tori and York guys. I just, I want to have him higher. He's just small and the stride length's not there and it's just kind of a tough sell for me. But Rolder, I think, has a chance to be picked in this range. So let's go with him from Michigan. The Colts, let's look at wide receiver after they took Gabe Backus and Zaki Wheatley. I'm going to take Jacoby Lane here. They've developed these jump ball, like you think of Al Pierce's development, that jump ball specialist that can, that's the hang time, can really play above the rim, 6,4, 200 pounds. And they're deep enough at wide receiver where he doesn't have to play a ton of snaps right away,
Starting point is 00:06:58 but you're really, really working on this guy's development year one. Yeah. So, okay, let's see. Eagles, Mackay Lemon, Malachi Fields, Keel and Relage, Sam Roush.
Starting point is 00:07:12 The Eagles just pick best available now at this point. That's really how it feels like they're going to be moving. Wait, actually, can I see that one more time? Can I see it? Give you Grayson Hall. Grayson's still on the board.
Starting point is 00:07:26 There you go. That's very them. Yeah, I think that he's interesting in an odd front, but when you want to have more of an attacking style, I think that he could be somebody that you put on the field and that you're just trailed telling him to get after the quarterback. All right, the Ravens took Venga, Yawane, Chris Johnson, and Sam Hect with their three picks in the top 100,
Starting point is 00:07:46 which is a really, really good bit of business. Actually, so Yawane, hecked, who was the middle one as well? And Chris Johnson. Chris Johnson. All right. So let's look at some, there's not a lot, but let's look at some defensive line depth here because once again there's been some injuries there. I'm going to go with Capehart, who plays a very limited role snaps wise, but he makes the most of them with the raw power he has is a true nose tackle. He does, he does feel like a Ravens type of player.
Starting point is 00:08:30 You knew it's coming. You knew it's coming. Tampa Bay, 116. Let's see. Mansour Delane, R. Mason Thomas and Josiah Trotter, obviously winning the draft here because it's rigged. Let's see. Can I see interior offensive linemen?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Like Cage Casey? I like Jeremiah Wright as well. Oh, Markell Bell is still here? Damn. He kind of slipped through the cracks. He's a better player than this spot. Same with Bowery. Huh.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Yeah, I'm going to take your boy J.C. Davis. I'm going to hear your boy J.C. Davis off the board because I think that he can play guard. Yes. And then if you need him to, he could kick out to tackle for you. And I know that that team likes to have that sort of flexibility there. The Raiders. Mendoza Concepcion, big citrus, Camari Ramsey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I'm going to go with Markell Bell. Yeah, I was going to say, like, it's not just because we said his name, but I think it could make sense for them, too. Big, colossal. tackle that provides you depth and some nasty in a phone booth. The Lions, we went with Maxionature and Jason Barnum. This is just the most Lions draft, dude. I love it. Do we go Chandler Rivers here?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, I like that. He's just so sticky. He is, and he's such a smart player. And they're not afraid of this small corner. They paid DJ Reed. They lost, what's his name, to Free Agency, who was a small corner from Louisiana Tech. It's going to drive me nuts.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Oh, Meek Robertson. Yeah, they'll play the small corner. They don't care about that. Yeah. Yeah, let's go with Chandler Rivers there. Yep. Panthers on the clock. They took Germant McCoy, Chris Bell, Chris McClellan.
Starting point is 00:10:24 This is where I'm going to take Genesis Smith. I know he has the tackling issues, but he's got so much range in coverage. And he doesn't have to be a starter on this team right away. Okay. All right. Green Bay, 120. They've been on Terell with Jalen Farmer. Good draft.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Good draft, in my opinion. I think they're all in on Matthew Golden. wide receiver. Good at tight end, obviously. He signed Javan Hargrave. I think they're good at linebacker, to be honest with you. Interior defense. Oh, Rayshon Benny.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh, yeah. Rayshon Benny would be excellent for them because he could play in multiple alignments on their defensive front. I think Rayshon Benny, one of the strongest defensive linemen in this draft, I think he's got a lot of versatility there for them in that front specifically.
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Starting point is 00:11:44 Big Bill. I am going to go a little off the board here, Trev. Okay. I'm going to take Jaden Kennedy. That's not off the board for me. He actually... That's not off the board for me. That's right on the board for me.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Made my top 10 corners. I know he's small, but he's like a gnat. He's the corner from Oregon. He is just like Chandler Rivers, where he's always in the hip pocket. Always in the hip pockets. This would be a backup to Brandon, for their nickel.
Starting point is 00:12:16 All right, so Atlanta, we got Brandon C-Saysay, and we got Zachariah Branch. Might need to bring the beef here. Oh, wait a second, hold on. Because Caleb McGarry just retired. Yes, he did. Might need a little awesome barber in this spot? How do you feel about it?
Starting point is 00:12:38 Because right now they have Joanne Taylor, but I mean, what's he on a one year? Probably. He got to be on a one-year deal. I like Bowery better, but Barber is not like... Oh, no, I like Bowery better as well. I didn't know Bauri was still here. Yeah, he's still there.
Starting point is 00:12:52 I know you like crown over too. I do like crown over. Ah, you know what? Give me crown over, actually. Give me crown over. I like the potential of him a little bit better. I think Drew Bowry's got a higher floor. I think that I think crown over has got a higher ceiling.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Chargers took Zion Young, Jennings, Dunker, Max Clare. You know what? You know, this could be your boy here. This could be Tim Keenan. I love that call. You know, this could be your guy. Keenan come on down. I know they got Dalvin Tomlinson on a short deal just to be a bridge this year at Nose Tackle. Tim Keenan behind them. Perfect. Big time, Timmy Jam. By the way, I just, I just want to shout
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Starting point is 00:14:20 All right. Corner. What did you say? Corner depth? Could go corner depth. Yeah, what do we got here? What do we got here? A little corner depth.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Outside corner. Oh, a little David Moore. Ah, you know what? Ephesians Prysock is actually my guy. I think he's better than this even. I'd take him top 100, but I know he's much lower on, on other, on specific boards, but I take Ephesians Prysock here. Give me him.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I like him. It's funny. I'm going to take his teammate back to back. in Ticario Davis. Oh, okay. A big corner to be the backup for Carlton Davis for the Patriots. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Ticario Davis was really good in man coverage in Arizona, and then he really was more of a zone corner for Washington when watching all of his tape. So for New England, I think he could do a little bit of both, and those are just two mammoth corners that go back to back picks.
Starting point is 00:15:14 The bills, we have Malachi Lawrence and Kishon Elliott. Let me say, ooh, I think this might be. and Albert Regis spot for me here. Just get tougher in the trenches against the run. I think he's the guy that I like next. And I think that he's good enough to be picked here at 126.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Let's go Albert Regis here. All right, Niners are on the clock. What have they done so far? Caden Proctor and Jeremy Bernard. It's pretty solid. I'm going to take Justin Jolie. Hold on. Samuel in the chat was saying, please give Bryce Lance to the bills.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Bryce Lance, he's gone for. Yeah, we picked for the Giants. 20 picks ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to take Justin Jolie to the Niners. I think he's building towards being an adequate blocker, but you're taking him to be that receiving tight end to make plays in contested situations. Oh, there it is.
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Starting point is 00:17:18 table is getting bigger and bigger it's amazing people are saying flag football MVP bangle that's you see that highlight real i didn't really i didn't watch it yet. I need to, I need to put it on. Sneaky elusive. Is it really? Sneaky elusive. I feel like Bengals more of like a contested catch guy. He's bigger. He's tall. I know. I know. But you're saying he's got some. No, after the catch, I was like, I expected him to just kind of like fall or get the flag pulled. No, he's a problem after the catch. No. The Mike Evans at flag football players. That's, I've heard that. That's what many people are saying. That's what many people are saying. Okay. Detroit Lions.
Starting point is 00:17:55 with Maxianichor, Jachsham Barnum, Chandler Rivers, I like this draft for Detroit. Is there a wide receiver? I'm going to be honest. I kind of like Brandon Thompson here. Just insane wheels. Yeah, man. The new Caliph, Raymond.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Just get dynamic. Do it. Because I'm looking at their wide receiver room. You have Jameson Williams. You have him on Ross St. Brown. You drafted Isaac Tesla. obviously those are the main guys that you're playing there. You sign Greg Dorch, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:31 it's Malik Cunningham, Dominic Lovett, Tom Kennedy, Jackson Meeks. What about DT though? Who do we have at DT? Can they take the risk on Zavian Harris? Ooh, Zavian Harris would be good for them as well. And I mean like,
Starting point is 00:18:57 yeah, give me Zaving Harris. Yeah, he's somebody who, I think it's talent, we've said this on the show, I think his talent level is much better than 128 in the draft, but he's got the domestic violence incident and then the DUI incident that happened, I think,
Starting point is 00:19:13 two and three years ago, if I remember correctly. So obviously that's 23 and 24. That is a paramount part of his scouting report. You have to obviously get to the bottom of those two things because there's situations that went pretty underreported. So I think he's a very, very talented player, but you've got to make sure you do what your due diligence there. But I think that he could be a really, really good fit
Starting point is 00:19:32 for the Lions front and what they're doing. Let's see what the Bears tackle options are after they took Emmanuel McNeill, Warren, Kianthe Scott, Skyler Bell. I'm going to take Jude Bowery off the board here. It's funny for them to go back to the Boston College well, a tackle. But Bowery is the best one available on the board here and gives them much needed depth for a position they've had some injuries at. Miami, back on the clock again.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Draft maxing. They really are. Not even third ground maxing anymore. Yeah. I mean, we're just picking best player available at this point. I mean, this is Garen Usmire's spot? Oh, we lost him. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Or did we lose me? No, we didn't lose me. We lost Connor. Well, salute the soldier. We'll get it back. Miami. Let's see. Can I see who they picked again?
Starting point is 00:20:34 Really quick. Yeah, somebody, somebody. to Safeway called and gotta get him out of here. So the corners we have, we have Colton Hood, VJ Payne. Yeah, I guess,
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm gonna take Gary of Nussmeyer. I'm gonna take Gare of Nussmeier. Because I think that he's in an actual, I think that he's in an actual competition then with Malik Willis. And Malik Willis is obviously going to start before him, but I think it could get interesting. Not that that's Malik Willis Lander.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I think Malik Willis is good, but I'm gonna go to Gara Nussmeyer here at 1.30 from all the other picks that they have made. Brookes Smoke said Nuss and I, riot well see on the riot line brother um the patriots here who are they now they're not they wouldn't be an overton team can I see who they picked again I could they go Deontay Lawson I mean could they go linebacker I really wanted to like Caleb Alarmzor from TCU more by the way
Starting point is 00:21:51 but I just there are too many times where the instincts aren't what they need to be I wonder if the Patriots would like take Tori and York at this point I have no idea. I just don't know where he's going to go. I think he's a hell of a football player. He's just small. Yeah, let's get Deontel Lawson. Let's see. Yeah, let's do Deontalosson. What did Peter say? Great. With Trevor picking, only picking in this trap, it's going to be a 24-hour stream. Get those donations ready. We're going for, you thought it was a marathon for seven hours. We're multiplying that by three. The New Orleans Saints 132, Carnal, T, Cash Sal, Kyle Lewis. Man, I love that. Let's.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Let's go defensive line. Let's look at the defensive line for them. Ah, okay, I think over to, oh, no. Let's go Tyler O'Yend him. The Texas A&M defensive lineman. I think he is definitely their type. He play a couple of different positions for them. He's got good athleticism to him.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Pound for pound, a really strong player, even though he's sub-300 pounds. I do think that he could be a good fit for the Saints. The Niners at 133. Hmm. Justin Jolie. Caden Proctor, Jeremy Bernard Let's see
Starting point is 00:23:10 Okay So they went wide receiver They went with the tight end They went Can I see center? They didn't pick a center We didn't have to pick a center, right? No, no, no, no, no, they didn't pick a center.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I think they could pick a center if one's available. I don't mind, Jake or Burton. I really don't. I think he could be good in a zone blocking scheme as well. Ah, they might need outside corner, though. Can I see outside corner? Let's see corner. Like Will Lee, Devin Moore, I think both of those guys kind of make sense for them.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Dalen Everett as well. Kind of depends. Are they running? Dude, I'm going to go with Hezekiah Massis, actually. I think he's good in those off-zone coverage type of formats. And I think Rahim Morris is going to run quite a bit of that. So he's somebody who I think is really, really smart. And I think that he could play.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I think you could play in that spot there for the Niners. Let's see. I'm actually going to. take the link and send it to our next guests here. All right, chef, we can bring him in. Oh, the chef does need to make a pick at this point. Folks, you know him from what was previously the PFF College Show, which is now preferred walk-on,
Starting point is 00:24:46 those hot and up-and-coming independent college football YouTube show that there is. It's Max Chadwick and Dalton Washington, my two very good pals. Fellas, how are we doing, guys? I'm just glad that, sorry, I'm glad that Connor got back just in time to give each of us one of his six jobs, because we could use it right now.
Starting point is 00:25:06 If you want to host the Mets pod, it's yours. Oh, you know, I might actually take you up on that. He's wearing the Mets hat. We got to snap this losing streak, though, man. This is atrocious. It is hard to watch. I'm just glad last night they got it done in like two hours flat, but boy, oh boy. Please talk about something else.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Max, go ahead, please. I was just going to say, you know we're unemployed. because of how embarrassingly fast I clicked on the link that Trevor said. Like I was watching the screen I saw the link. I was like, oh, boom, let's go. Boom.
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Starting point is 00:25:42 That's represent. We're supporting the brand and everything. So, guys, we're at pick 134. So I don't know how many of these guys that you have seen from a scouting perspective. They know a lot. For everybody out there, I was just going to sing their praises. These guys cover college football from a national
Starting point is 00:25:58 perspective deeper than anybody else. I can say that with my entire chest. These guys preview the biggest games. They preview the matchups that legit matter. And it's such a great show to watch specifically in the fall when college football is going on because they do a great job of telling you who's playing well for what reasons. They'll give you a little bit of a draft perspective there as well. So you guys do a phenomenal job. I just want to give you your kudos there because I'm always floored with how deep you know all of these teams with all the movement that happens and all that fantastic stuff there you can see it on the screen preferred walk on a college football show Tyler smash subscribe i don't know if you're i don't know if you're i don't know if you're i don't
Starting point is 00:26:39 know if you're i don't know if you're i don't know if you're oh it's an incognito tab it's an incognito tab smash subscribe from the incognito tab no i'm just kidding couldn't even couldn't even get a sub from the chef what are we doing i don't even think that they can win it with an incognito but there you go. You guys can see it. Make sure you guys go subscribe to everything that they're doing there. Fellas, I would love to just ask you guys overall. Some players that you're, uh, that you love in this class. I mean, guys that you watch that you just stand on the table for, like players who might be in your top 30, top 25, who maybe the consensus has them more like 40s, 50s, something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I love to hear from you guys because, you know, we'll run through picks in the hundreds here. But the guys who you really like in this class would love to hear from you. The two that jump out to me, one of them's going to go first round, and one of them, I think, his talent is at least worthy of it, if not the size. The two for me are Dylan Thineman that, I mean, we've been watching for three years on our show ever since the true freshman days at Purdue. He's just ridiculously talented. I mean, I think even with Caleb Downs in this class, you could argue he's the best single high safety,
Starting point is 00:27:44 and he's just diversified his game over the last two years. And then there might not be a bigger fan of DeAngelo Ponce than me, dude. I mean, I've said it to a few people this in the past week. if he was Mansour Delane or Jamad McCoy's size, I think he'd be CB1. I think he plays a position better than anybody. Those are the two guys that stick out the most for me. This is a heavy defensive draft, but in the secondary especially, those two are just monsters.
Starting point is 00:28:08 There we go. I'll probably, Trev, to make you happy, I'm probably going to go with a Gator Great in Jake Slaughter, man. Oh. I am, I love that dude, man. You and Nate Tice. Nate Tice, I think it has him center one. Dude, and I get like there's some play strength concerns there with Jake
Starting point is 00:28:23 Slaughter, but like this guy's got three years of elite tape at Florida, going against like first round defensive tackles, no less, and dominating those first round defensive tackles too. So tested out great at the combine as well. I mean, I've seen him being mocked in the fourth round. Hopefully you guys got him off the border already here at number 134 overall. But man, I think Jake Slaughter is a borderline like second third round talent, in my opinion. Yeah, where did we have Slaughter actually? Tyler, if you want to scroll up or if you can scroll up there, where do we have Jake Slaughter go?
Starting point is 00:28:53 he was much higher than this i think we got did we get him top 100 i was there it is 97 97 that's a good that's a good fit for it for him he could start right away honestly on that i know i know yeah i was a big i was a big fan of that uh of that fit there all right you want to run through some uh let's run through some picks let's see let's see what we got here san francisco 49ers are on the board at one no or no actually i just i pick for i pick for the niders just pick for the niders the raiders 134 so we got Fernando Mendoza. They got Casey Concepcion at the top of the second round.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Big Citrus, Camari, Ramsey, and Markell Bell. Guys, honestly, a lot of what this draft is at this point is just players that are best available that you like because we filled a lot of the needs for them. And so anybody who's left on that draft there, I'm curious that you like for the Raiders in one way or the other. I might go back-to-back Florida guys here, man. I love Devin Moore. I mean, if you want to like, I know he and Darien Porter are kind of similar builds,
Starting point is 00:29:52 There's no massive corners out there. But I think Devin Moore, like an oppressed scheme, is a really good player. And I mean, I had him, I think, top 75 right now on my board currently. So I'm a big Devin Moore fan. And I know Las Vegas could still use some help in that secondary too. Okay. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Let's take David Moore. Yeah, let's get Devin Moore off the board here. Pittsburgh. We got Blake Miller, Ty Simpson. This is where we had Ty Simpson going off the board, fellas. At 53. At 53, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Okay. Antonio Williams, Caleb Proctor, Billy Shrouth. Jaden Cain. All right, what are we thinking here for Pittsburgh here? I think either, I mean, you could go with more depth on the offensive line. I don't hate the idea of another tackle. Somebody we know can play left tackle. Or maybe, maybe a linebacker.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Have we gotten anyone off at linebacker for Pittsburgh? Ooh. No, not a true linebacker. No. I wouldn't hate some younger depth there. They've got Malik Harrison, Cole Holcomb, Carson Bruner from the seventh round last year. But I wonder if another just depth player, with some speed.
Starting point is 00:30:53 You know who I'm going to say. You see Tori and York still up there, man. Tori and York's got great instincts. Is it him or do we just go the full, like, more of a speedier athletic route with Harold Perkins or Elam Zor? I love York's instincts. If he was just big... Oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Elon's still there, too, yeah. If York was just a bit bigger, I'd be like, he would go a lot higher than this, because his instincts are, I could argue, top five among this position in class. We go with York, though. I don't hate that. Okay. All right. Let's do,
Starting point is 00:31:22 let's do Tori in New Orleans Saints. What was the draft here for the Saints? What do we have for them already? Yeah, it was Carnell Tate. I know we drafted in the first round. Cassius Howl. Look at the speed. Speed, folks.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Roster's getting a lot faster there. Anything jump out at you with those picks? Tight end, maybe. All right. I don't say tight end. Maybe one of the blocking type of tight ends. I think there's actually a lot of. of those guys that could go on day three.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Actually, yeah, that's actually a good shot. We had a little run on them already. Yeah, but there's like, injuries is still there. Oh, I like, see, I like injuries a lot. I think, I think there's, he's, you don't get the high end A plus athlete, but I think he can do a little everything.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I think a high end outcome, this would be, like, his best outcome could be something like Adult Schultz, but I think Schultz went around in this range in the draft maybe a little earlier also. I like, of all those guys, I like injuries there the best. Somebody's saying that they need D-Bs. I was going to say corner, too. Corner to, I don't know if it came to mine.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah. All right, which, do we have, I guess, like, Will Lee is still there. Dailen Everett is still there. I think. Yeah. Yeah, one of those two guys, I think could make sense. Two straight, two straight A&M guys. I'd go with either Lee or injuries.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I could be in on that. Let's go Lee. Let's go Lee. Okay. All right, we'll take Lee here. The, he'll look at the Eagles. we take for the Eagles This is an interesting draft for Philly
Starting point is 00:32:54 No safeties yet No, we did not have a safety yet for them Safety's kind of been a tough position He's got picked apart fast Trevor is this where you look at your boy from Tech Wisniewski? Oh, Winsniewski could
Starting point is 00:33:10 I could be in on that Oh, my Taff too I think I don't know if they would like I mean they could pair him back with Makuba and just get the teammates back together. You could do that. I don't know if they would take him just for the lack of size. I don't know if they're the team that would do it. But I think with Sneskis or even Jacoby Thomas, who is kind of that down. Right, right. Kind of quarters. Like, like, Fangio would be the right
Starting point is 00:33:33 player. He would be the right coach for Jacobi Thomas too. I actually think Jacoby Thomas could, could, could, would be the pick here. If I'm, if I'm guessing. He's just got so much power to him. Good size. And like you said, like a good Fangio fit. Let's go with, um, with Jacoby Thomas, the safety from Miami. Yeah. San Francisco, we got back to back here. Oh, Proctor, love that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Oh, I don't know that I love that for them. Proctor? I don't think, I don't know if Proctor is their guy. Does he have the feet for Chanahan? Are you moving him inside or what are you doing? I'm moving him inside. Yeah, yeah. I think he starts at guard and then you kind of just go, all right, well, do you,
Starting point is 00:34:14 does he, do you think he's good enough? Is he going to lose weight to be able to play at Tassah? But if not, then I think you're drafting a tackle a little bit after. All right. Do we have, can I see edge rushers? I know we have two picks here for Sam Fran. Right, right, right, right. Oh, and Dave Tucker.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to bounce from a name Tucker here. We watched the Macs Championship game. We were like, who the heck is this guy rushing off the edge like this? I mean, we'll turn on the tape for him. They need the Glet of the nation and pass off win rate this year, right, Dahl? He did. Yeah. So I think, I think Tucker as a situational, because I mean, they've got obviously Bosa getting
Starting point is 00:34:46 healthy, Mikel Williams to me. is an early down guy who can move inside on passing downs. And, you know, they've got the interior pass rush better with OSA. But like a situational edge rusher like Tucker in this range, or even one earlier in the draft, like in R Mason Thomas. I think they need somebody like that because I'm just, I'm not the biggest Mikel Williams fan. I don't know that he's ever going to rush the passer like that.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So I think a rotational pass rusher like a Tucker would really make sense, especially with more of a stand-up guy if Rahim Morris is going to go with more of that style. So I mean, the chats in these guys, these dudes know their stuff. They absolutely do. why you subscribe to show because it's just, I don't, I don't even know how, how long you guys are going to go. Are you, are you still going to do like the three hour shows? Because it's basically just this, like heavy ball knowledge for three hours of these guys. So we actually just, just like a few hours ago, we did it all eligible mock draft,
Starting point is 00:35:33 meaning like every next year's class and 2028 included in it. Damn. That got fun. Wow. So yeah. Okay. I got to check that out. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It's, uh, seven of the first 10 picks were next year's class, by the way. Yeah, I bet they were showing how. I bet they were. Yeah. Okay, so who'd we land on? Tucker. Not aimed Tucker? Let's do not aim Tucker.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And then he got back to back. I'll let Max take the lead on this one. Hell yeah. Is there they call them? Can I see the safety board, Treve? Or are you running back to us to look at that? Oh, you're taking your guy at the top. Friend of the show, Matt.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I do. Is it, is it Hydenreich time? Oh. Oh. I do love Eli Hydenreich. Dude. Shanahan.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Come on, man. If there's a play caller that would, do it, it's probably Kyle Shanham. Would you do it this early though? Yeah, what? How many? How many? Yeah, actually, that's a, that's unfortunately a terrible question to ask because
Starting point is 00:36:29 we're beyond the third round of the third round picks that they just absolutely incinerate every year with a running back for no reason at all. Oh, true. Oh, yeah, we could take the annual basic 49ers running back like a Roman Hemby or somebody like that. Oh, no. Like, actually, I mean, John Allen. there.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I kind of like you like. Oh, actually, you know what? Nick Singleton, if we were taking it back, I think Nick Singleton would actually make sense. You don't need to take a back. Please don't, actually. No, we would love for you to not take one. No, we got to get one Penn State guy for Max. We got to do it.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Done. I think Singleton, because this sometimes the Niners just go, give me the athlete like they did with Isaac Arendo. I think Singleton would be the idea there. Yeah, I mean, if it didn't work once, I mean, you might as well do it again. Don't do just don't work again, you know. Yeah, right, right. Sure, sure. Just keep throwing, just keep throwing darts till the wall falls over. I feel like Heinrich is a better, is a better pick than Singleton.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Next round. We'll get him the next round. We'll get him next round. Okay, all right. Okay. Heinrich and Singleton. All right, who are you picking? You guys pick. You're the guess. We'll just Singleton. Let's just Singleton. Okay. Let's go to next Singleton. I'm in. Trave, I think you and I think you and I think you and I think you and I'm going to eat my protein bar. Here it is so far, Dalton. Arvel Reese, Jordan Tyson, C.J. Allen, Chase Vassantis, Malik Muhammad. We've covered a lot of different areas.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I have a couple different ideas here. I think you could go, you could go O-line-Dep, like tackle, like a swing tackle. You could go Michael Taff. I would not be against Michael Taff at safety. Or would it shock you that much if they went with just another running back to keep throwing darts? No. Braylon Allen being hurt. Isaiah Davis is what he is. I think eventually they're going to take like a Kalin Black.
Starting point is 00:38:20 They've had him on a 30. Okay, all right. Like that level of running back. I was even thinking you could double that receiver here and I would take like a Cyrus Allen. That's like where also if this is the Jets, honestly, if they were at 140 and Carson Beck is still on the board with Frank Reich, I bet that's who they would take.
Starting point is 00:38:38 But we don't have to do that. You could do Drew Allen and redo the Christian Hackenberg thing too. Why wouldn't you do that? It was so much fun the first time. If it didn't work the first time, just keep throwing darts at the wall until it falls over. Not a cool. Please don't do a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I just don't want to. That's not too quarterback, I'm waiting on Julian Sand. I see the receiver bit. I do like Cyrus Allen. I wonder if they just go more just absolute burner and take a Brennan Thompson. I think he's, oh, no, he is there.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Well, they took Aaron Smith last year, which is brilliant. Yeah, yeah. Can we see the list of receivers again? Because if I don't, if there's not a receiver I like, I would vouch. Oh, I don't mind to Eric Rivers either. Yeah, I could do Eric Rivers in this spot. All right, heads or tails, Rivers or Thompson. Take your pick.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Let's go with Thompson. All right. Burner, I'll take it. Fastest player in the draft. We'll go with it. I think that's a good pick. Genuinely, like, I think that's a really bad guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yes, I would agree with that. Yeah. Set in a low bar. around here for sure

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