NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Charity Mock Draft MARATHON Round 5! (with ESPN's Mina Kimes, The Chef, & Max and Dalton)

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

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Houston. Taylor Banks, Jerry and Price, Logan Jones, Anthony Hill Jr., Julianneal. Hey, a solid draft for you. Yeah, pretty good. I probably double up. I might double up on offensive line. I might just keep looking.

Just keep throwing it till it sticks on the O line. Either that or I like what Max brought up with like, hey, depth on the edge because, of course, like they have Danil Hunter and Will Anderson, but that's sort of it. Like, is there an edge rusher that you guys like? Using the edge class, they're still available. I mean, Kane Curry.

like the shortest arms literally ever recorded, but I did love his team. But he is a good player. Yes, yes. I think that like 141, that's fine. You know, like you're talking about. We can't get hung up. Drafting him in that here.

Yeah, top 75. I think that he's, he would be a, he would be a great pick at 141. I like that, actually. You could, you could, I think you go that route or you go with like a Jeremiah right.

Either, either of those two things. I would go, I'd go, I'd go Caden Curry. Let's get Katie. I'd go, yeah.

Who'd be half of the Titans? Yeah. Love Rodriguez, Ramello High, Will Casmeric. Now it'll love Brennan Thompson there. You guys haven't gotten a corner off the board yet. No, we have not. Who's the most Robert Salah Corner? I'm actually kind of mad that I took Hezekiah Masses earlier

because he is quite literally a perfect Robert Salah Corner. I mean, if he wants to get fun with length and tools, it's Demings or it's Damani Jackson. And if you want somebody who's like probably closer to a system fit, it's T.J. Hall there coming from Iowa, it's basically the same defense. I would guess Demings. I think Demings goes higher than Hall. Yeah.

Let's go Deming. Yeah. Yeah, you can take the tool. Take the tool swing. I don't hate that. What about O-line? Because we didn't take O-line at all for them. Oh.

They have no, we have no O-line picks. They're picking next. Okay, yeah. Let's wait until the next thing. Okay, sure, sure. That's fine. Good call, good call, good call, good call. Yeah.

Good read, read the room. Yeah. Arizona Cardinals, Sunny Stiles, Caleb Lomu, Kieran Crawford, Dionne Burks, great draft class, Drake. Hell, do you take a swing on a quarterback here if you're Arizona? God, no. I don't know. Are we taking Cole Payton?

You taking Cole Payton? The Nussbuss bus is gone, right? I missed that one. He is. Nussbus is gone. Yeah. I think I took him to Miami and Brochmo was mad. Sorry, Bruchmo.

Any, any, any, literally any other, any place that I put Ty Simpson. or Garrett and Usmeyer, there's no winning. Every fan base hates both of those players. Yep, you get tweets immediately, absolutely meltdowns. I think I'd go, have you took a linebacker here? Or no, did you take a linebacker? Sunny Styles. Okay, I mean, you could go, you could double up at linebacker and go more offensive line.

I'm not taking Pavia. No, no, no, no, no, no, you go. I love it. No, you don't. I love it. You don't. Pavia won't be picked. Hit it draft, Tyler.

Pavia won't. be picked in this draft. He will not be picked in this draft. I will end this stream. I'll end the stream. Why? Why? We're not picking them.

Not in the whole draft? No, not even. You're not going to make him, not even Mr. Irrelevant, which is the opposite of. A three round CFL drafted to this too or no? You're doing the, we're doing three undrafted free agents for every team afterwards. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow.

Oh, wow. Stick to the mall. No. No. No. No, no. No, we're not. No, we're not.

I would, I would go offensive line. See, now the chat's going crazy about it. You got to do Pavia now. No, you can't do Pavia. If we get another round in, maybe. Sports debate arena said, how's Daltin's reasoning not being listened to here? What was your reasoning?

Offensive line, I think, here. I tend to tune Dahl out a lot. Okay. Yeah, no, that's kind of just. All right, what do we got? Interior officer. I'm so used to not being listened to by Max. Yeah, let's see.

Offensive line. Interior. Oh, Jeremiah Wright. I like him. I think it can work. He's a PEO mover. Yep. Moving Kitton Trost is a really fun player on the interior, too.

We had a great year of Missouri. this past year. Yeah, yeah. I was going to watch him and then my PFF ultimate stuff got shut off. I think he's a seven year. College Club premium. Nice, nice drop, Trev. I'll stop there if you want to talk about that. No, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want to talk about it. I no longer work there. My PFF ultimate is not supposed to work anymore. That's all it was. That's all it was. A carrier pigeon, a carrier pigeon heads up would have been nice. Imagine. We don't work there. A bird is here with a letter for you and it reads your ultimate account is shutting down with like a little and I'm like well oh no no no no no and I like sprint upstairs

just hammer the keyboard and it just nothing works you're downloading PDF some stats is this 13k going on our unemployment funds or what's supposed to happen uh yes yeah yeah yeah yeah you were actually the fourth charity is we we just felt really bad for you yeah we just felt really back's right oh that's that's what that's the chadwick institute that's CI that CI on the bottom there yeah that is all right um all right jeremiah yeah Jeremiah right yeah Jeremiah right Jeremiah right. Go ahead. Yeah. I think I know who I want for Tennessee. If it's not an offensive lineman, they're going to kill you.

It's Cage Casey. Okay, great. Yeah. Technician. I think he could survive at depth tackle at the next level, even though he's built like a guard. I don't know. I think he might die. I don't know. Jesus. Oh, wow. Okay.

You think he'll survive. I don't know. There's always a chance. Round four is the time where Trevor has completely turned. He's talking about his ultimate account shutting down. He's talking about death on the fields. How are you guys feeling right now? agree. I'm okay. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, the Chipotle Bowl that I'm going to have at 734 p.m. is going to be diabolical. I mean, the, the calories in it will well exceed what some humans is supposed to eat. Is it a George Carloftus bowl or Gordon Tyson? Dude, it might be. I don't know what the Jordan Tyson bowl is, but the Carloftus for anybody out there is double rice.

triple steak and cheese. That's it. It might even been triple white rice. I thought it was double rice, triple meat. That wouldn't shock me. Max, what's the, what's the everyday, the Kurtzignetti bowl? What is that?

Oh, it's just rice beans. Right? Rice beans chicken? Yeah, yeah. It's very, it's very basic. It's very basic. It's the same bowl every day, right? Maybe you just get the Kurtzignetti bowl instead.

But that man's a, that man's, uh, that man's, a legend so he can he can order whatever bowl he wants yeah okay the new york giants who we pick for the giants phono miller love christie miller 30 come on look at this draft folks look at this draft folks uh they need a depth running back ban yeah can i get somebody who runs faster than a four eight do we have any of those somebody in chat said that's too much so that's too much meat pause dude have you guys really quickly have you seen when

when Aiden Hutchinson says the pause thing have you seen this clip it's like going around where he's talking about his surgery and he says something he's he's in front of like reporters like and they're asking him a question about surgery he's like yeah I just

had you know I went through the surgery they did this you know they put this big metal thing inside of me pause and then you like you could tell that he he thinks he's with his boys or like he thinks he's just with his friends so he's he goes to say pause and laugh. And then he remembers he's in front of journalists doing an interview.

And he, and he like, and he like stops halfway through, like saying pause. And he just is like, oh, you can just tell like he has his brain just like, well,

he's like, I want to get out of here. I got to get out of here. A check button. Eject. Eject. It's incredible. So,

okay, running back here for the Giants. DeMone Claymore. somebody somebody fast i mean taking a kron allen is just adding more another clone basically so i i mean sports debate arena is begging for us to pick dailan everett which i don't hate i don't hate that either i can see sure i don't hate it they love corners that are constantly chasing for cedar wait a second wait a second wait a second but reddy saying dail and ever to the commanders they do too they took a manual forbes

Oh, man. Uh, yeah, put Dailen Everett wherever you want. Nah, no, Dimon Claybourne here, and then we'll have Dailen. All right. We will, we'll get, we'll get Everett to the commanders. Yeah, that's a, uh, deal. I should do them, do them here to the Browns just to. No, I just took Igbenosis.

No, we took Igbenosin. Oh, okay. All right, so we got Monroe Free Link, Denzo Boston, A.J. Halsey, Connor Lou, Igbenosen. Honestly, tight end. Let's look at tight ends. All right, right. Yep.

This is a spot where. Definitely need tight ends. This is a spot where injuries, there's some blockers I like too, but I think this is a good injury spot to just get somebody more traditional with Fanon. Okay, yeah. Dalyan Everett to the commanders. Dealing Everett. It's a lock. The elusive Dailen Everett pick.

Yeah, they kind of need that. Chiefs. The Chiefs. They had a very interesting. Swing tackle. Swing tackle. Yeah. Austin Barber.

I think Austin Booker. Gross. Amiel Wagner. I mean, I would take Austin. Yeah, done. I don't love how he plays against power, but I mean, it's, it, we're talking about pick 140. Once again, we're not doing the like, can you, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, this point of the draft. You can't analyze guys who are picking it at 150 as if they're like second rounders. Um, well, I would, I would take another receiver here on. Yeah, I could do that. Yeah. LT. Overson's still on the board. I'm trying to see where you would land here. I don't love that group of receivers, though, you just showed there.

No, it's not the best. It's not the best. Unless we just go more interior O-line depth. Could. Yeah, because where they at now? Like, do you just take another guard just to have another one in the building? I mean, because they just need everything, man. Right.

I would take O-line. I would get an O-linement off the board here. Because we gave them the center, right? Who do we give them? Yeah. Like, Kahn. Yeah. Yeah, I'd give them

Like Roderoy Adams Didn't Burton play guard Before this year Trose is a guard Yeah, he's a guard at the next level for sure I'd go Keegan Trost Okay, all right, we'll take him I'm glad with that

Saints I like the Saints draft man I think three A&M players to New Orleans Oh yeah, I didn't even notice that Wow I think I would look at centers here I know they signed Fortner, but he's kind of a band-aid. Then I would take Burton here for them.

Yeah, that's, that's reasonable. Yeah. Okay, let's do that. Let's do that. Miami, crapped on a pick. I mean, yeah, there's no point of even going through every, there's like 90 picks. I mean, Nussmeier almost got Connor killed, apparently. No, me, Trevor.

At 1.30, that's a steel. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like, you're a lot of ticket. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Again, we're not taking him at 75. Anybody who's on the overall board standout?

Like, is this just L.Overtin just for the value? Yeah. He's around this range for me. I would have it a little bit higher than this. I would take a second tight end. I kind of want a real pass rusher. Another tight end could work too. Okay.

Who do we got a tight end? Who do we got an edge rusher? Dequan Wright. Love Dayquan, right. Me too. I don't think he should be. He's so good after the catch. Okay.

All right. Let's take Dick Juan Wright. Let's get him off the board. All right, Dick Juan Wright. Dallas? There he is. Dallas. Oh, Jimmy Rolder. Look at that call. Yeah. Corner or swing cap.

Yeah, who we got a corner. Thad Dixon? I think he's talented, man. I think he was hurt this past year. The last year that he had at Washington in 2024 was way better. and I think that's closer to the real version of him. We're running thin on corners. All right, go with that Dixon.

I'm taking him. Yeah, yeah. Philadelphia Eagles. Who we got? Have we taken a corner to Philly yet either? No. I haven't taken an edge player either. No.

The edge class kind of wiped out. Yeah. Yeah. And they need one of the bigger ones and it doesn't really work. I mean, we can. Overton? Lou. We could do Overton here.

This is the Overton, Alabama, big edge player. It's not an outsia. side linebacker edge, but it's a, it's an interior depth. I go over to edge. All right. Let's take over to them. Yeah, they're always good in the trenches. Ravens? They need to replenish their tight end room.

They just lost two in free agency. And you haven't taken a receiver here yet either. No, we have not. Either or. Who's Lamar throwing to in your book, Treve? What's going on here? Oh, Michael Trigg is so. I was so.

How did I get blamed for this? Well, how did it? Why was it in my book? Who was he throwing to in my book? It's your problem. Not mine. Yeah, it is. All right. Michael Trigg is very Isaiah likely coded. Yeah, that's a random. Yeah, he kind of is. Yeah. That is true. It is, man. So is Marlon Klein is very raven coded.

Same concept of taking Charlie Kohler. Michigan Man, too. I don't, I don't like him that much. Mentor one. No? Okay. I think he's a nice blocker. I'm not big on. I think there's better blockers. I think, like, I know he's a little smaller. I think Noakowski could play a combo.

Noah Kowski is actually, him and Carson Ryan are my two highest rated tight ends left. I do. Even for a couple other just pure blockers, like I don't mind Kitzelman from Tennessee. I don't mind Arkin from Illinois, but I think I could wait on. I'm just not, I'm not a huge fan of Klein. I don't think too much of them. And I think Andrews can still feel the traditional stuff. I might lean in on more of a likely replacement with Trigg

and then maybe take a second, another tight-in later. I'll give you guys a take. I think there's a better chance Trig doesn't get drafted. Yeah, yeah, I think that that's true. Yeah. Well, the problem, it's just such the tweener thing. It would have to be a team like this that has just this exact Isaiah likely role for him.

Hey, really quick, can we redo the last pick? Yeah, the chat is the only at us that Green Bay actually has this. selection so let's trade the pick and give it to the packers because i just checked on tankathon and they do indeed have this pick good catch oh because is that this is the wicks trade it's probably just not updated yet oh that's good catch because it was two day three picks so yes yeah you could just you could just force the you could force the trade i think or unless we got a for a 20 yeah give up a 27 first rounder for it it makes sense it makes sense wait did we just what did we just do Do we just

What'd just happen? The chef is slow cooking It's okay No, it's all right A simmer That's all right Yeah We're simmering

What's just Oh Is it the other way around maybe Oh boy you're gonna get to Oh yeah There we go Okay All right okay

All right Packers All right so we're We're taking LTA Anyway Well done Well done I don't actually I don't hit LT either

at this defense I don't know Louis ticker writing What do you have already? Let's see. I don't think we've done a package. But Ben, we drafted Beni for them.

Oh, you got to Rayshan Benny. Okay. Oh, your guy, Max. I do love Rashon. Yeah, Rayshan Benny is awesome.

Rayshan Benny is awesome. Any corners? We got Avianne Torel already. We do have Terell, but I mean, if you want like a longer corner, I think that there's guys who are there. Linebacker.

Jackson. Who we got to, oh yeah, Damani Jackson. DeMani Jackson is definitely a bigger corner. that would be in play. Size of speed. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. Tide end. Are we in on Luke Musgrave? No. Tide end is, tight end's an option. Joe Royer? Hmm.

Royer. Um, honestly another team where I think, no, Akowski. Makes sense. Oh, really? Yeah. Didn't Noakowski test like pretty well? Yeah. Yeah, he's just kind of weird because he's only 6-1.

A little fullback for Indiana. 6-2-250 466. Yeah, he's got a combo. It's going to be a combo like H-back full-back type thing with him. Definitely. Somebody made the pick. Yeah. Royer or Noakowski?

Royer. Royer. Done. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Ravens. Noakowski. No, O'Kowski. I'm serious. Actually, no, no, no, wait. Well, that might be, that might be real because Ricardo is gone.

Yeah, no, it's true. Did they sign another fullback? You could do this. Fullbacks, Tyler. Either, either him or the other guy, just Michigan connection. Oh, wait. That's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. I'm in on that. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. All right. But I get it. I get it. Um, you're right. I'm on it. That's terrible. Can we see, can I see the, who the bucks. Riley, no, Akowski. Bucks need a fullback. Bucks need a fullback. Really? What do the bucks need at this point?

What tight ends do we have available? Ryland O'Kowskine? I don't, Connor, I don't hate your Carson-Ryan call-out, man. Ryan, I don't know why I didn't get a combine invite. It's perplexing. He was so good at be why he did. He's better than most of the tight ends that got the combine invite after the top, you know, what, five to eight. Yeah.

I'm going to take. Oh, don't. Your guys here, Colesial. Oh, Cozio. He still here. But he just, I mean, can't block he tries he just can't yeah is there a linebacker left who can cover because trotter doesn't solve that at all oh el ars i think would be a steal here there you go yeah i guess we can

yeah yeah let's take him i mean yeah let's take him i mean yeah let's take the alarm's orb um indy who'd they take they need a linebacker think they need a linebacker don't they yeah they need a linebacker in the oh red murdock the forced fumble king Owen Heineke? I like both those guys. I'll be honest, if they wait this long in the actual draft to take a linebacker. They're in trouble? I feel really good about that first round pick the Jets Hold.

Yeah. All right, let's take Red Murdoch. Do you guys have Justin Jefferson thoughts? Because I think, I thought he was the best of this group. No, I disagree. I'm not in. Really? I thought he was better than Lawson.

I think he's too. No, I don't at all. I don't think he can see. But that's like the whole class after the first. five. They're all 225 pounds, all of them. Right. I think Lawson's a lot better. I don't think Jefferson can see. Really? I just thought Lawson was a smaller linebacker that played slow. He does play a little slow. Like he's got a more limited range, but Jefferson, you're just taking physical tools. I don't like, I don't like his vision. I just don't, I don't think he can see.

Like I wouldn't even, maybe the very end of the draft, like obviously you're drafting athleticism and traits here, but I'm not a fan. Yeah, I think you're going to be surprised when he goes. you're not going to be happy. As long as it's not to us. All right. Lions, what do we got? What do we got for the lions? Oh, you're not at 17.

Yeah, yeah. Trevor's words were, uh, well, they're better than who? Proctor. Yeah, better than Proctor. It's better than Proctor was your quote when you took them. What's the running back classical? I don't hate like a K-Tron as like a Montgomery replacement. That's perfect, Max.

Oh, yeah, that works. Perfect. They have Pacheco, but. He has looked bad for two years. That's true. He has not looked great. I don't mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like Tachron here. Fat man. Yeah. Let's get the fat man. Double Carolina. Double McPounding. Yeah. Pounders, back to back founders.

Pause. No pause. Pause. No pause. Okay. Okay. Wait, did this team, wait, did we already, we didn't already get a center for them, right? Oh, no.

No, we did not. I think a long-term center. Goldman's underrated. Oh, Goldsford, too. Golden is underrated, good call. Golden or Coopin had a great year of Michigan State this year. Yeah. I just don't think they would take someone as small as Brailsford.

No, no, no, no. They had like the biggest center in the league last year. Which is hilarious considering everyone else in Alabama's O-Line is like 380 pounds. Mio, you have Brailsford in the middle of it. Yeah, that was a, you know, Washington Transfer Special. Right? Yeah. Yep, yes.

I had to think about that for a second, but yeah. I'll let you guys pick the center that we want here. Well, we got back to back picks. I like Goldman. Golebone. Done. Take Goldman. Okay.

Okay. Oh, yeah. Let's take, okay. That would be great. Who's the other one? Just take competition. Just back-to-back center picks and see who wins. I love it.

I'm in on that. Not bad. Did they pick corner? Did we give them corner yet or no? I can't remember. No, we did not. Oh, yeah, we did. We go,

McCoy, I forgot. I forgot. No, they need a running back badly. Brooks has always been hurt. Oh, Emma Jones. How out on we are in Emmett Johnson? I don't want out on Emma Johnson. No, I mean, not at 159.

So I'm saying, like, I would take him here. I'm in on Johnson in the right fit, and I think this is one of the right fits. They'll throw him the ball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I go Emma Johnson.

I like Emma Johnson to them. Yeah, that's a good call. And then L.T. Overton still gets to end up on Philadelphia. Perfect. Look at that. The regular. Yeah, but is this actually their pick?

What? What is the chef doing? Uh-oh. We're looking. Oh, this is Green Bay's pick. Oh, oh, oh, oh. This is the trade that we had going over there that we messed up the first time. Okay, okay.

So now Overton's going to the Packers? Sure. I could. I don't hate it. Do we take any D-Liron for? Wait, they are also a team. Don't they need a running back? That needs a running back.

Oh, badly. They need a Josh Jacobs backup, like smash in between the A-Gap kind of. Kalam Black. Man, I wish Levion Moss was healthy, because he is that kind of guy. Again, but at 160. Moss is the most...

He's easily, to me, the most talented guy of that group. I think, yeah. Yeah. All right, Kaelin Black, Kaelin Black then. Let's take him. The chat likes him. There we go. Guys, we've taken up so much of your time.

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So you guys are keep killing it. Trav, miss you, man. Yeah, miss you guys too. This is good. It's good to get back in front of the camera in front of the mic with you guys. So appreciate it, fellas. We'll definitely talk soon. All right, Triv.

Yes. Scott Barrett had to address the situation. Oh, did he really? The mentions were just too much. We're just too much. Okay. What did he say? What did he say?

He said, if someone sends out an offer that's massively lopsied in their favor, should you, A, take this as a personal insult, B, assume this is a proxy way of saying, hey, I'm into this guy. Can you counter and help me make this offer more fair, carbon copy Matthew Berry and his army? And the army is not stopped. I'm setting the link out to our next guest who's going to join us here in a second. All right, let's keep it rolling. All right, go ahead. We are a really good thing going.

Steelers at 161. Let's see what they got. I know we've been all over the place of this class. Blake Miller, Ty, Simpson, and Tony Williams, Caleb Proctor, Billy Shrouth, Jaden Kennedy. It was a very underrated corner. Is there a safety, a depth safety available in this? Yeah, that actually made it to this point of the draft. It is. Yeah.

Michael Taff. Yeah. Lewis Moore. Let's go Michael Taff. Okay. All right. Baltimore Ravens. Let's see.

Who did they pick? Who didn't they pick? That's a great problem. It's very true. Very true. Oh, we need wide receiver, right? I mean, we were complaining about wired receiver here. Who we got on the board at wired receiver?

I like CJ Daniel. CJ Daniel, I think he's underrated. He makes a lot of tough plays. I know. Because he doesn't run away from a ton of people. Yeah. But there's time where he makes some insane catches. He's got, he's got phenomenal hands, man.

Yeah, go with that. He does. He's got phenomenal. little hands. All right. Minnesota. Vikings, we still haven't taken

a running back for them. We have to here. Let's see what that. Ah, yes. Yeah, got to take a running back. Seth McGowan. Seth McGowan's my guy. Let's go with Seth McGowan.

Honestly, Seth, McGowan, Jade, not, Levy on Moss. Either of those three. No, McGowan. I also like that McGowan, they had him run that angle route a lot. I wonder if they can kind of incorporate

that into Minnesota's offense, too. Okay, all right. Let's go McGowan. Jags. We got a couple of pictures of the Jags here coming up. Really, I feel like, It's the best player available stuff for them.

I like potentially interior offensive line. Can I see interior offensive line? The chat is the only is to let the chef pick. We are going to let the chef pick. The chef is going to pick after our next guess. We will let the chef get in on a lot of the fun. And I know that you guys are only saying that because you wanted to pick Pavia and he's going to pick Pavia. But we will.

And then I end the stream and I take all the money and run away. You all made me do this. I think I think Alex Harky is an interesting choice for Jacksonville. because he played offensive tackle for Oregon, but I think probably because of lack of length, he's probably more of an interior player, but he's really an ass kicker. Like, this is somebody who I think plays with a ton of power.

He can play guard for you. He has that versatility. Man, and Connor just, Connor's camera now got booted again. All right. Well, I'm going to text him really quickly here. You got booted. Again, let's take Alex Harky here.

I think that he's a good choice for Oregon. Buffalo. Okay, let's see. Buffalo. Who'd we take for them? Okay, we take Albert Regis, Kishon, Elliot, Malachi, Lawrence. I like all of those picks. Let's see.

What's next for them, though? actually let me make sure that my internet or that my camera isn't going to go anywhere there we go hmm could use guard honestly let's go bow stevens let's go bo stevens there the guard from iowa i like that that's a good pick i think jacksonville uh what's best player available for jackson bill i mean l t overton is there. I mean, this is, this is just easy to get LT. Overton off the board. I mean, we, we, I feel like we, we have to do that at this point.

That, that to me makes too much sense. So let's get Overton there. Houston, we got the backup for corner. We got the backup for edge rusher. It's potentially linebacker. Man, I like this draft for Houston. So she, I mean, Caleb Banks works out. It's, it's phenomenal for them. Let's see. Houston's depth chart. I don't think they need tight end. Hmm.

Just another offensive lineman, maybe? Or take it. Wait, can I see who we picked for them again? Because I might just take Isaiah World. Yeah, I'm just going to take Isaiah World. Just take the chance on it. I mean, he is gifted and he is athletic. I didn't love him as a top 100 pick when we were talking about him like that,

but certainly sitting here at 167. Like, I could totally see him being the pick there. Buffalo, up again. We just took guard for them. Let's go wide receiver. Let's see wide receiver. Ooh, Kevin Coleman's interesting. Kendrick Law also interesting for Buffalo.

Because they have Kalo Shakir, they have DJ Moore, they got Josh Palmer now, have Keon Coleman. Oh, Eric Rivers. Could be nice as well. No, give me Kendrick Law. Give me Kendrick Law. He's a really nice athlete,

somebody who's a little bit smaller of a wide receiver, but could be a dynamic weapon for them. So I'm just going to get them another wide receiver talent there. Kansas City. I think Kansas City, hmm. This could be, let me see. They went with Chris Brazzell. Oh, well, okay, hold on.

Our guest is here, so we're going to bring them on here in a second because Conner's down, Internet is down for the county, he's having to reset it. So with that being the case, Mina, I just wanted to ask you. So you've, what, so some of your favorite prospects that you have watched in the class, right? Like some of the guys who, you know, like, and it could be anybody. It could be somebody who is just like a top 20 player that you feel like in the top 10 player, a top 50 player that you feel like is a top 20 player. Like just guys that you have really enjoyed watching throughout the class for whatever reason.

I would love to talk through some of those players with you and just hear some of the players that you love in this class. Hey, audio listeners. I know you guys are more audio than YouTube, but we're making a big push right now and a big campaign to reach 75K subs on YouTube by the time the draft rolls around. If you have a YouTube account

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Miancom Show, Future Lenny, go check it out. There you go, there you go, love the plug. a defense pod, because we come out twice a week. On Mondays, I've been doing, I do this war room concept. Trevor's been a guest, by the day, great guest on the show. And the other second part of the week last week, we did offense. Before that, we did the quarterbacks, we did defense. And a player that I was late to, but that I watched just in time,

because we really focus on first rounders and maybe some that will fall into the second, was Chris Johnson, the corner out of San Diego State. I feel like everybody, the second, they actually, watch him falls in love with him but um you know you just don't happen to watch san david state naturally especially like this draft you end up watching a lot of the same games same teams against each other um and and this is really the knock on him is he didn't face a lot of like high level competition and that would be the one concern i do have i don't think they played many great teams um but boy the tape is really really nice and i think i i'm a seattle ceox fan and i would not

I would be thrilled if they grabbed him, frankly, with pick 32, because I do think he has what it takes to play in the NFL to the start in the NFL. Just super clean is the kind of the word I would use to describe his day. It's just so clean. I mean, I was kind of shocked by how technically refined he was. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You're right?

Yes. Man, zone. You know, the ability to, you're so. sticky and man-covered when they did play man all three levels he's pesky in a great way without getting too grabby he's not like the historical seahawk size prototype but they have you know moved away from that to some degree and i don't think it's a it mike bickdonald cares as much um considering his avatar on the field is devon witherspoon so right yeah i i love him and he by the end i think i had him at three behind um mccoy who i also love by the way right uh but i do

think he should be a first rounder. I think that he, for a team that runs a lot of like off coverage zone stuff, he, I could absolutely see the case for him being the third best corner in this class. Like he is so smart. He's so instinctual. He has great ball skills. And what I love about him too is he will defend the run. And like that is a paramount importance when you're talking about, especially a game where

teams are trying to get speed to the outside all the time. they're trying to say like if your corners cannot tackle we're going to run at you all the time. There's so many teams that have the athletic offensive linemen to be able to do that now. And Chris Johnson, there are plays. I can't remember what game this was specifically. But there was a play where a wide receiver came out to meet him and he was in off coverage. And the running back was coming towards him. And he like stacks the wide receiver and peaks around him as if he's like a defensive tackle.

And the second the ball came to him, he just threw into the side and tackled somebody. So I love that call out. Chris Johnson's great. We had him going second round in this mock draft to the Giants, which I think that he's probably competing for a starting spot immediately with him and probably Deonté Banks on the outside. But big fan of Chris Johnson. So seal of approval there.

That's great. Who, like anybody else in the class? You were saying you were mentioned you were going to the defensive players, but who else we got? Yeah. I mean, I love McCoy. The second I got to the total. 24 tape. It was kind of curtains for me.

So that's another one that I really, really like. I think him versus Delane is a really fascinating conversation. I think Delane will go earlier. And I like Delane too, but I have both really good players. I do like the corners generally. I find, you know, as I watched more and more of them in the second round and beyond. So defensively, those are a few guys I liked. Offensively, I'm a Concepcion guy.

I've been out since. I I think I ended up with him a wide receiver three which you know we'll see but I just I know you're not alone there

that separation I know you're not alone there there's a lot of people It's funny because you know how like when it feels like all of a sudden you just see it's like I don't know if you saw the article about the band geese today but there was an article about how they got like astro turf

by a marketing firm and everybody was like why am I seeing all this geese praise? This is the first time I'm sure you'll hear that discussed on this podcast. But I felt like that way of Casey Concepcion, where I suddenly just saw like, not that I felt everyone was copying each other. I didn't. But I was wondering if like the algorithm saw that I like Casey Concepcion. He probably. They started showing the other people who like Casey Concepcion.

Yeah. I just, like I said, the juice, the Twitch, the explosive playmaking ability. The catch stuff's weird because weird bad drops, but then also amazing catches on tape. So it's not like he can't do it. So I do really like him. I did a, yeah, do you like him? What's your your thoughts? So I do like Casey.

I think that he is wide receiver four or five for me, I think. So like he's right there back into the first round. I think he would be worthwhile for a lot of those teams. and something that I like a lot about Casey is that I did not like him going into the year. Like the way that NC State used him the previous two seasons, he was such a gadget player. He was playing all sorts of alignments. It's like, this doesn't work in the NFL. Very clearly, they're just getting the ball in this guy's hands because he's way more athletic.

And I'm just like, this is not translatable to the NFL. But at Texas A&M, they actually had him run routes. And he got better as the year went off. They'd use him as a Z. They'd use him as a slot. Sure, he's great after the catch, but he developed so much more as a deep threat wide receiver as well. So, Connor, we were just talking about Casey Concepcion.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, there he is. How's it going? Good. I got zapped from our never-ending stream for a couple of minutes, but we're back and better than ever. And I come back to Trev on a deep, deep run on Casey Concepcion. Yeah, yeah.

We were getting the thesis statement out. I was just asking Mina about some of her, like, favorite players in class. She mentioned Chris Johnson from the corner, San Diego State, as one of them. And then Concepcion was another one. Question for Mina, because this is something I've struggled with. Chris Johnson

passes the eye test, the tape test. Feels like he's barely ever challenged. The testing test. How do you go through that it feels like he didn't see a lot of great competition at Widers? That's what you're talking about. Yeah. But he's

really, really good. And it's not like he looked loss at the senior bowl or anything where that you know what i mean it's it's such a tricky one of this guy was not challenged a lot this year yeah i know the the things that i find i find the hardest to assess in the draft one is injury stuff right i mean i mentioned a lot of it unfortunately like a lot of the players i like the best do have injuries in this draft which is a good reflection of the draft class right i the second i posted um the uh i posted a picture of de col Kidman the movie theater meme when I watched Caleb Banks versus LSU in 2024. I literally I had to take a walk after watching that. Like I like got up and I went for a walk around

my house and I sat back down and immediately everyone was like his foot is so much. Like what are you doing? Like I got really texts about it. Like you can't. I'm like I get it. I understand. But yo. The best 10. The best 10 Kayla Banks plays over the last two years are like the chiefs are He looks like Chris Jones. Yeah, I mean, the chiefs are drafting him at nine. If his foot is fully healthy. Like even with all the positive and negative. But it's just, it's so, it's going to be interesting to see where he goes.

Connor had him going to the Texans at the back end of the first round in this mock that we did. Oh. Which I think would be a great spot with him and D'Amico Ryans. It's just does a man who weighs 330 pounds and have foot injuries like does that get? It was early. Yeah, it was on the early side for sure. but the fits great. Texas are such a weird one though, right?

Like I've had trouble picking for them every year. That might be the one team because they don't have a lot of needs. And then the need they do have interior reference of line doesn't align with the draft. So, you know, and I don't love that the linebackers after styles. So, you know, if like I really like the linebacker, that would be a good spot. But I don't know them. So it's a tough, it's a tough spot. To actually answer your question about,

So I was saying the first thing I don't like is injuries. The second one is like trying to weigh competition. And I think there's some positions where traits are so much easier. Like I actually think I don't need to see a wide receiver go against elite corners to know how I feel about a receiver. But I do need to see a corner to go against elite wide receivers. And that's the only thing I really have on Johnson. Because I was just saying to travel like the tape is so clean.

And but it's not like with Jermon McCoy, I can say I watched him versus Ryan Williams in 2024 and I know what it looks like. Shut his ass down completely. Such a great game. It is one of my favorite tapes of the entire stress season. So anyways, I don't know, but I think there's the, it's good enough. So like for me, if that's why it's too rich to take him top 20, but once you get out of there and then when you consider this drafts, I'm like, you know what, it's probably good enough

for you to start to feel good about his range. I think I think that's a good, that's sort of a good segue to a question that, that I kind of love asking everybody when it comes to this draft. And that is the positions that are less premium are the ones that it feels like a lot of people have in their top tens, right? So like Sony Styles, which you kind of talked about and mentioned a little bit there.

Jeremiah, I love, obviously a running back. God, I say running back is if he's like, like someone who's to be shunned. But like a running back. and then like Caleb Downs, right? There's a lot of people who have Caleb Downs as top three or like their number one overall player in the class. Where are you kind of on this conversation of those three players?

Like if you were to be doing a board, do you think they'd be in your top 10 overall as players? Would you consider them as top 10 players in this class? Like, what do you think on those players who are just of non-premium positions in this draft class? Yeah, I mean, they would all be in my top 10. I think Downs is the one that I'm a little over on from the consensus. I remember not consensus, but like, I said this to Dominique. I think I had a, the hype was so intense before I watched him.

And then when I watched him, I did, it was like a bad. If I had maybe watched him before hearing anything, I might have had a reverse process. But I do this, the size and athleticism just isn't there for me to really put him, even though he's obviously like a football IQ insane and will be great in the NFL. But as far as position value, I think, oh, no, I'm back. Yeah, you're good. You're good. Big running back was about to get to me.

I think there's, I am done battling with Titans fans about to turn my life. I don't know if you guys saw. I got into it. Oh, really? As in, as in they want love and you don't or the other way around. They want love. Yeah. I clearly want.

And I don't think that team is in shape in the right place to do that. Yes. We just talked about this recently where Connor and I were kind of like, hey, we don't know if this is going to happen, but why is no one talking about O-line for the Titans? Like, I've said this on this show.

The only player on their O-line, who I could tell you is playing the same position a year or two years from now is Peter Skoronski at Left Guard. That's it. Dan Moore's Jr.'s contract is going to be done. J.C. Latham might be an interior player, and their center and their guard are new starters this year. I just, I do love Jeremiah Love, but I think the point that you're bringing up about the

Titans is a worthy point to bring up. Are they at the place where they could take a running back? The dream for the Titans is to trade down and then get alignment and a receiver, or maybe there's an edge that's still there. I just, but you know, that's easier. It's easy to say pre-down. And it's not always an option particularly when you're picking a four. You'd have to have a team who wants to jump the Giants for Lover Stiles. So I don't know. But to actually go to answer a question, I just think it means you have to consider more things.

You have to consider because with those positions and non-preming positions, you're not getting the opportunity cost of potentially not reaping the benefits of the rookie contract. So that's the place you have to start from. And then the second question is, what places our roster in where we can do this, right? Like part of the reason why I like styles to the Giants is because they don't, need pass rush. They need run defense. They have too much pass rush, arguably, but the run defense sucks. I look at that defense and I actually think they are in position to do it and he would be a

transformational player there. Or even like love to the commanders, you can sell me on that, right? Because the offensive line is in decent shape. So I guess I feel like I've been kind of like seen as like I hate, right? It's more just like I feel like you have to actually look at the team and the state of things. And particularly with the running back position, you got to look at the offensive line. or we get Gentie 2.0. I agree. It's not crazy. Yeah.

It's the product of a weird draft, right, Mina? Where like we'd love to just sit here and not even to use Jamar Chase because it feels too easy. Sam Malik Neighbors was in this draft. You'd be like Malik Neighbors should be Cam Ward's number one wide receiver for the next eight years. But we don't even have that. And there's things to light.

I like Jordan Tyson a lot, but it goes back to our health conversation at the top. You know, there's questions. is Carnell Tate wasn't the number one on his own college team. He's going to be a good player. He's going to be a really good player. Is he going to be the guy you funnel your entire past game through? So that's what's made the Titans at 4 such a polarizing conversation in a draft where the best offensive player plays running back. Yeah, it's a tricky one.

There's not an obvious receiver. There's not an obvious. I would say if R.Val Reaches was somehow there, though, call it in. That's what I would do. And I've seen a lot of moks shaking out that way. I still don't think the Jets are going to pass on it. We did that in this exercise. I don't know, man.

I don't know. I just don't think the Jets should have. Show me your graphs. Okay. All right. Yeah. So this is what we had here. Mendoza obviously goes number one.

Surprise, surprise. It's definitely a weirder one that we've done though. It was. It was. It was. Had Stiles go to the-stiles. Wow. For full transparency, I would love to trade down if I was the Cardinals.

Like that is priority number one. but it's just are you going to get what you want to trade down from number three? Because it just, it feels like the teams that would trade up to number three are probably outside of the top 10, right? It's probably like Dallas sitting there at number 12. You know, is Los Angeles looking to aggressive again to hit the gas pedal for a Super Bowl, right? And then if you're the Cardinals, do you want to go all the way out of the top 10?

I don't know. So I love Stiles. He's a top five player for me. And I think the Cardinals have a major need at linebacker. I just went with Stiles there at number three. But yeah, this is the top 10. Shout out any of the pairings and things that catch your eye here. I wonder if the Chiefs would be a potential trade-up team.

Everyone's looking at the Cowboys because they got the two first, but the Chiefs do as well. You're not dropping down as, I don't know if the Chiefs should do that, but I'm just throwing them out there. Team, that probably feels a little bit of pressure to get an impact player from the jump. You got Maui No dropping. Wow, third offensive line. And that's interesting.

That actually happened in my last mock, too. It was kind of surprising. He started dropping. Woo, Thene a minute at 12th, Rich. Wait, hold on. You're killing me. Hold on. You're killing me, you're killing me, you're dealing.

Delane is the weirdest one. Wow. Yeah, yeah. They. Kansas City, I would not take, I would take Delane. Okay. For Kansas City, you would. Yeah.

A million chief fans of screaming, we can get it, Gordon, Court, American, if this way he's going to be a problem. Um, is, is you, you want to Baltimore the most mocked? Yeah. Most, yeah, chalky. I think it's a sneaky side, though, Baltimore.

I think, I won't be surprised if they take Sadiq at 14, which would be his early range. All right. Lemon to the Eagles. That's interesting. Boston to the Brown. Is this some spicy, spicy picks. Alachi Lawrence, Proctor.

and you did banks, right? And then, okay, so you had Sadiq dropping all the way to, yeah, that would be shocking. Yeah, I think he's not going to make it down there. I'm so torn on Sadiq. I don't know how you feel about him just overall as a player. It feels like he's going in the top 20 in this draft. I just, I have my reservations on it.

Maybe this comes from the Tampa fan in me that had to watch the bucks draft OJ Howard in the first round and then him become absolutely nothing for them. But Howard was never, He was never the dominant blocker they needed him to be. And when I look at Sadiq, I go, okay, I think he's a good blocker. Is he a guy who you could play in line all the time? No, I actually don't think that he is.

And then when I look at him as a receiver, obviously he's an unreal athlete, but that wasn't exactly realized at Oregon. Now, there's plenty of reasons why that might not be the case. It's outside of his control. But I have a hard time just accepting that, hey, you didn't produce a lot in college. you're going to produce a lot in the NFL. And there are some cases where that happens, but I just don't think that it happens as much as people want it to,

or want to believe that it normally happens. So that's really where I'm at with Sadiq is. I think his range really is mid to late first round, because I think there are going to be some teams that go, hey, he's a good player. I don't know if he's an elite player. I think that might be more common than we believe. I would be surprised if he gets past Philadelphia,

Yeah, personally, just reading the tea leaves. It could be wrong, just things I've heard. Yeah, I do share some of those concerns. We got Ben and I got into it in the pod last week, the lack of production, the size. I think he's a good enough blocker for me. I think there's just good enough as a threshold for blockers. If you guys who meet that, there are not that many dominant blockers outside of the Stanford guy. So the right offense is.

kind of going to be the key. But yeah, if I was Philadelphia, it would make sense. But you have to also weigh into whether or not they're doing the AJ Brown thing and they're going to have to plan for the future at that position. Right, right, right, right, right, right. People are mad that you guys haven't drafted. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm slowing you up. You're not. You're not because we're going to, we're going to sprint through the rest of it. And I would much rather hear your thoughts on the high level prospects. It's okay. The people know that we will get through all of the picks. Like that stuff. happening. I was going to ask you about like are there specific player team fits? Like you talked about Sadiq, you know, going to the Philadelphia Eagles or like you mentioned like, oh man,

Yawane. He feels like he's like in every single Ravens mock draft. Are there like player team fits that when you watch this guy, you just go like you mentioned this with the lane as well, like the lane potentially to the chiefs in Spagnolo's defense. Like are there players that you've sort of thought about that you would love them in certain spots? Yeah, definitely. I mean, I want to tell you in Washington, but I don't, I've heard very little smoke in that regard. But I just thought that was a perfect fit pairing with Terry, the skill set. It is. It's perfect. But that doesn't seem like that's going to happen.

Well, we had, to be fair, we had Matthew Barry on back in the wee hours of like noon 30 when we started this. And Barry is a commander's guy. And he said, like, I think they might be leaning receiver more than people believe. So if Carnel Tate's still on the board at seven, it sounds like you could happen. Yeah. I saw you had Lomu going to the Cardinals. I liked him as a Niner potentially. Oh, okay.

I liked his upside. I like the way he moves at his size. Me too. He needs to young, but just like a zone blocking tackle. I feel like you would be a good fit there developmentally too. You don't make sense for their timeline. You wanted to Baltimore as the east. easy one.

I don't know if it's too rich, or actually you might think how to I'm going earlier, but Caden McDonald's for the Bears would be one that I like. I know that's a pretty popular pick, but such a desperate area of need for them and such an immediate, obvious solution. So that would be one that I

like. I mentioned I like styles on the Giants. I really do. And Chris Johnson on the Seahawks, that would be a fun pick as well. So those are a few guys off the top of my head where I'd be happy. if it shook out that way. But, and then Guterion Price, actually, I don't think that the Texans should take him in the

first round. Yeah, I'm with you. But it would be a really nice addition to that running back room. I am a difference maker at running back. They just have a bunch of guys right now. And Price in his own running game would be, he'd give them a big play threat for sure. And I could give you one of the best kick returners the day he steps into the NFL, too. Nobody talks about that.

It really matters a lot. A lot. Yeah. With some of these guys. Yeah. So those would be ones that I'd be interested in seeing. Which might have T.J. Parker going, by the way. Patriots back into the first round.

Yeah. So we feel like, yeah, he's a, we feel like that he's part of that Patriots defense that would make a ton of sense. I've mentioned this. It's not going to happen, but I really wish that Raiders would find a way to get Denzel Boston. They'd have to trade up to do it. And every Raiders fan's like, we're not going to do it.

And maybe they won't. I do think they know they need that type of receiver, though. And I just think he's such a perfect fit for Mendoza's skill set. I really like your fan voices. Like they were a little different. Like the Raiders fan was a little different whiny than the other fan base that was whining as well. I like that it slightly changes each time. Right now, I think Titans fans are the angriest at me.

So maybe I'm giving them the meat. You guys do fan voices for a bit when you are like this fan base is mad. Yeah, sometimes. make fun of each other. We do, we do. We have a lot of fun at our own expense here on this show for sure. Sometimes we make fun of each other in like voices like that as well. I'm tightness fans. When y'all pass on, not when, but if, because you might, you obviously might take love.

But if they all pass, if they do pass on him, don't come crawling back. You know, when you want to be like, oh, this would have been a terrible pick. I'm glad we traded down. Just, you know, please come crawling back. I desperately, desperately miss. you, right? I need your validation. But yeah, we're not, we need some healing. Mina, this is the last, this is the last question that we'll ask you.

Two of the charities that we are partnering with here on the stream today are animal rescue charities. And so somebody in the chat said, an animal charity content tie in, which prospect reminds Mina the most of Lenny here in this draft class? For anybody that doesn't know, it is, of course, the Mina Kynes show featuring Lenny. your dog and so i've got to know just what is the prospect that i mean we we got it we got whether it's measurables whether it's tenacity whether it's personality big standards to live up to who reminds you the most of lenny in this class somebody keeps asking about pavia oh that's not

that's not the answer um they might be the same size uh so lenny is gritty and um feisty and plays bigger than his size and maybe a little too feisty to the point of annoying. It's Mackay Lemon. I'm going to, I'm going to Kianti Scott. Nice. Love it. Nice.

Nice. I want to put together an all dog team of the prospects who have the most dog in them. Like who's this year's Kamari Lasseter. Yes. And he would be on that list for sure. Everybody's saying Pons. Yeah. I mean, Pons is another one.

Mackay Lemon, DeAngelo Pons, Pons, Kiante, Scott. Like those are absolutely part of the all-d-d-a-d-d-a team. Maybe I should do that. All right. I don't think about that. Some good content. Meena, thank you the absolute best.

Thank you so much for joining us. Great to see you guys. $14,000. That's so cool. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. No.

The edicts are awesome. But we appreciate to take the time. Shout out to your fans. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out to the Pia guy and the guy who said he was my simp. Appreciate you. Thank you.

Meena. Never forget my simps. Thanks. That's a great. That's actually a great line to leave on. Never forget my sims. You know what I'm... That's like the trailer.

I'm gonna say that to Alyssa later. Oh God, good luck. If she says anything about somebody who comments on a fan, I'm just gonna, yeah, you can never forget your sims. You know, you just... You know what I really like about Mina is that this is the second time we've had her on the show. Yeah. And she is such a different person.

off of tell because television is just like there's not a lot of time and you're dressed up and it's like do this this this and this and this and then you get in this format where it's laid back and we're just b sing and she's genuinely hilarious and fearless in saying things like that no she is she's awesome and people people also forget like doing both podcasting and tv like you know not that i want to pump up your ego a lot more but it's it's so different it's such a different art like with tv there's not like yeah i mean we'll get to a break in, I don't know, three, four minutes. Someone's in your ear like, screaming. Yes.

Get off the air. You're like, ah! You got to go! You know, that's your fire. Yeah, that's fired. That's how it is sometimes in TV. And the people that are the best out of, you know, me is one of them. You are also one of them. You handle it with a lot of great grace. So let's get back to the mock. We got a,

we got a power through, baby. Where are we at? Oh, what have we got like, uh, 80? more picks, I think? Where are we at? We're 60. Yeah, so I think there's two. We got 90 more picks. 90 more picks to go.

That's nothing. That's, that's, that's absolutely nothing. And when I say that that's absolutely nothing, I'm terrified. We better hurry because I have to pick my dog up before seven. So. All right. Let's go.

We've got to. Unless, unless we get to the point where, because the place where I go, pick up my dog is literally like five minutes down the road. We have one more guess that we could get on that I might be able to just like have you and him tag team it because this is also somebody who, um, I'll just say, watches a lot of prospects.

So, well, let's see the damage you and I could do. Yeah, yeah, I could do serious work in the next 45 minutes. All right, all right.

Let's do it. Do it, folks. The Kansas City Chiefs, where are we at here? Awesome barber. Good pick. Good pick, actually. Um, okay.

So for, oh, no, he took Sadd. I'm gonna eat they did take did it take Cedique um they need a running back everybody always needs a running back yeah they probably need a running back okay let's go to running back really quick wait oh uh levi on moss let's go levy on moss there i like that pick there yep all right the broncos they have a small class stowers parker darrell jackson junior linebacker here let's see what we got okay i like jefferson i like he like he me most he he he too senior bowl guy yeah he

Yeah. Can cover a little bit. All right, we'll go with Heineke. Okay. Let's see. Safety for New England right now. Okay. Let's go safety.

They lost someone in free agency. This might be Bishop Fitzgerald. Could be your boy, Cole Wisniewski. Oh, yeah. Let's get Wichniewski off the board. Love that. Love that. Absolutely.

Saints, this would be back to tight end. I think for me, a more wide tight end, right? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that. What are our options here? Marlon Klein's a good option. Your boy,

No Kowski. No Kowski. Let's go Klein because he's developmental and can... I agree. Yeah, I agree. Who'd we take for Baltimore? Back to back Ravens. Let's see.

Okay, we did go. We didn't have them take tight end. Like, could this be a cozy little spot? Oh, actually, Trigg is still on the board, isn't he? Yeah, you mentioned, though, the trig. He's going to get... He'll go in this draft, but it's going to be interesting. Um, yeah, they actually do really need tight end.

Yeah, let's go Michael Treg here. Let's take Treg as one of these picks. And then edge rusher. Do we do edge rusher for them? Yeah, let's go edge rusher. I like edge. Okay. Let's go on edge.

Uh, ooh, George Gumbs. Yeah, Gumbie. I like that. He's a fascinating developmental guy because he switched to edge rusher late in his career. Yes, yes. Okay, we have the Las Vegas Raiders. up here at 175. The chat is yelling at us because we said that the chef would make a pick after Mina.

And Mina is, in fact, gone. And this is after Mina. So the chef, you get to make a pick here at 175. Is there a player that you want to pick here for us? Yes. Look, I'm a man of the people at the end of the day. Oh, no. And you can never double down hard enough on the quarterback position.

It's the most important position in sports. And if you're going to get a good backup, you might as well get the second best quarterback in the draft who is available by the way at this so so we are going to give the people what they want i am the people and we're going to get diego pavia off the board there it is there it is there it is 170 there it is 175 there it is one 5075 you wanted this you got what you asked for this you got what you asked for i hope you're all happy kansas city up again here um um uh uh crazy idea to take a quarterback here. It's Mahomes and Fields.

Oh, no. No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't take a quarterback. I would take an edge rush here, though. I would take a quarterback, but. All right, no, no, no, no, no, no, quick. No, good. I watched Justin Fields throw the, I watch Justin Fields throw the ball last year. So, you tell me. Well, let me see the board. I can't just, you got Drew Aller, you got Carson Beck. All right, fine. We'll go, we'll go quarterback later. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Now you got to pick one.

Okay. Yeah. They're the team that takes Drew Aller. Yeah, you don't bully me. I bully you from you bully me and a bully the cheeps. All right, Drew Allen. So what? He said, so what?

Dallas. They got a running back. They probably need some depth at wide receiver, right? After the big dogs. Illinois was good as a three last year. Mingo stinks. I mean, they have Mingo. technically.

No, I mean, Lord. Trayshon Holden. Ooh, what about, no. Can I see the list of players they picked? No. What about? No.

Harold Perkins Jr. Cool. Yeah. Let's see. Good little speed there. Eagles. Corner. Yeah.

Got to have it. Demani Jackson. They've done this exact playbook before. They have, indeed. The Jets. You tell me. This would be Carson Beck. Okay.

Wow. Yeah, it would be. In New York, the bright lights, baby. The bright lights. Cowboys again. Broadway Beck, they're calling him. Unbelievable. Cowboys up again here.

I think we need a defensive lineman. And offensive line. Oh, no, Cowboys. No. Yeah, Cowboys, Cowboys. I was looking already ahead of something else. Oh, Vanderberg. the super athletic dude from George's

I was saying, Hamer Zane Durant, right? Like that's Yeah, gap shooting Let's go Van derberg. Yeah, let's go Vanderberg.

Yeah, let's go Vanderberg. Yeah, let's take it. Lions, depth at DB, because they have 80 injuries there all the time. I know they got rivers, but that's a different kind of player. Let's go.

Safety. Safety. Yeah, because who's there? Lewis Moore? Very smart. I do. I actually think that he's a great Detroit fit.

Very smart. Very, very smart. They have Chuck Clark and Christian Ision, but those two guys are brand new. Yeah, let's go, let's go with Lewis Moore here.