NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Collab Mock Draft (With Nate Tice & Charles McDonald)

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers are joined by Nate Tice and Charles McDonald of Yahoo! Sports' Football 301. The four draft minds engage in a Fatal Four-way free-for-all mock draft

Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikama. That is Connor Rogers. And as you see two more people here with us, we are continuing the Colab mock draft series. Our good friends, Nate Tyson, Charles McDonald from Football 301 at Yahoo Sports are joining us here for this new collab mock. The four of us are going to run through a brand new first round mock draft.

And this time, it's going to be a little twist. Normally, we go 2 v 2 here. But today, we're going to free for all. It's 1 v 1 v 1 v 1 v 1. Is that too many, or is that four? I don't know. I'm just excited to have you guys on the show. Nate, Charles, how you guys doing today?

Very good a little fatal four-way. Yes. There we go. Four-way dance. There it is Mexican standoff. However, you want to put it Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a good one. It's supposed to suppose the hats versus no hats, which is I thought what we're getting into That's what I thought we were about to do but no so no, this would be great. Happy to be here Happy to see you guys. Congratulations, by the way to do, but no, so those would be great. Happy to be here, happy to see you guys. Congratulations, by the way. Thank you, thank you. Congratulations, I was worried you fried your brain in the Bahamas sun when you were doing the one plus one

plus one there a little bit, but you made it back in one piece and we're here ready to do the mock draft. I had enough drinks for that to maybe be the case, but hopefully we're good now, or maybe not. Maybe this could get very off the rails. Connor, how you doing, my friend? I'm good, dude, excited for another one of these. I'm intrigued by how the one after one after one

after one goes. We had a lot of good discussions last time with Bret and EJ, but in this one we kind of have full control of our picks here, which would be cool as well. Yeah, and that way you can get as far away as possible from me when I draft Tyler Warren to the Raiders again, like I did last time. You're wanted for murder right now.

Yeah. Do not go near Raiders country. Okay, all right, I'm only gonna do this for, I swear, 60 seconds and then I'm gonna drop it, but I have to state my case to Nate and Charles, and if they call me an idiot, then I'll take it on the chin and we'll move on. Okay, guys, for number six overall

I don't even remember what the board was But it was it was like we had the normal suspects off the board genti was gone genti was gone Mason Graham was still there, but I ended up taking Tyler Warren for the Raiders and my thought process there was I think Tetro McMillan was also off the board. I think, did he go too? What the hell did this top five look like? It was really, it was a little wacky. Let's be real here.

What was the top five? I'm trying to remember. Cause this is what we would do. So we did have some, definitely had some landmine kind of picks. No, so it would have been Cam Ward was off the board. Travis Hunter was off the board. Abdul Carter was off the board.

Did Tech go to New England at four? Did who? Is that what happened? Did Tech go at four to New England? I think I did pick Tech. That might have been it. Yeah. So there you go.

And then you- Non-zero chance. You talked me into Warren, but I really wanted Graham. I didn't really talk you into it. It's okay. You can stay very far away from me. What's the case? Once he's on the team, what's the case?

So the case was Brock Bowers did a lot of his damage in the slot anyways. You could still play him in the slot, but you could play heavy tight end sets with both him and Tyler Warren on the field at the same time. Warren, you feel better about him being attached to the line of scrimmage so he can always sort of be there as that additional blocker because he's a little bit stronger. And then if Brock Bowers is like your second tight end, and he's sort of the guy that you like pound for pound as your tight end too, is like a wing back or somebody who plays in a slot,

you play a lot of like condensed sets and heavy sets and you can base a lot of your offense around 12 personnel stuff. And with Ted off the board, I think he was off the board at that point, my thought process was you can more easily find a complimentary wide receiver later than you can more easily find a complimentary wide receiver later than you can a Tyler Warren who would compliment things the way that you

would be able to with Brock Bowers there. And I made the case that it sounds like they're not hanging on to Michael Mayer. Like I already expect Michael Mayer to not be on the roster because it feels like they're moving on. So that was my case. Am I an idiot? A little bit. Okay. All right, there we go. That's good, that's all I need to know. That's a good argument. That's a good argument.

That's a good argument. I like it. You know, you're kind of like Matt Millen when he kept drafting receivers, except the Raiders are just gonna keep drafting highly drafted tight ends. All right, now I've read that. That's the coffee you want, Matt Millen.

Now I read that. Yeah, you go with Matt Millen. I understand the argument once you spell it out, because there has been a team that I keep pairing with tight ends, or we do, with the Seahawks and the tight end, where I'm just like, Hey, just hear me out here. Hear me out. So I yeah, it's a little rich and they can find maybe splash somewhere else. But I understand the argument. All right. You know, hey, you know what? Maybe Raiders

fans are right. Or maybe I'll do it again. We'll have to see if I'm picking number six overall. So let's decide. Let's decide the order here. My favorite non-sports podcast that I listen to is the All Fantasy Everything podcast. And the way that they determine the order of all of their fantasy drafts is through, as they say, a rocking game of rock, paper, scissors. Between the three of you, I would love to play rock, paper, scissors. And the way that it goes is, whoever the odd person out is, that's the person who wins. Can we do this? And then whoever that is, they get to determine the order of the four and how we're picking. Does this make sense? Does everybody follow? Sure. All right. You ready? You guys ready? All right. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. What do we got? Scissors, paper, paper.

That means Chuck wins, because he's the odd man out, and he just took the two papers down. So, Charles. North rock. It is up to you. You get to determine the order. Who's picking first, who's picking second,

who's picking third, who's picking fourth, and then it'll obviously just repeat after that. We're not going to snake draft or anything like that uh Nate you go first okay all right Nate's first sweet thanks okay I'll go third grab your last all right all right all right as Ian the host of that show would say hot corner but we're not doing a snake draft so I guess that doesn't really apply let's blow out the PFF mock draft simulator though and let's get it rocking. This will be fun. All right. So Nate, it is now up to you, my friend.

We're going to go to the simulator. We're going to select all these teams. It is just a first round. We're going to enter the draft. I assume that you're not going to trade the pick, but... I am not. I was even looking at picks that I'm also going to hold and I was like, yeah, Jaguars aren't going to do it.

It's, you know, I don't know if they have the assets to do so. All right, but I'll just say, and honestly, what's the over under that they'll enter the pick at the end of the month? You know, when the countdown starts and we all know what the number one pick's going to be, you know, is it going to be at like six minutes,

15 seconds, you know, four? They always marinate on it, let's milk it too long. Yeah, I feel like the NFL likes them to run the clock. They almost tell them. They do, they kinda say like, hey, do you like to see how we, you know, Roger's gotta get warmed up.

I'm gonna go Cam Ward for the Tennessee Titans. And not because I think his high end comparison is Steve McNair or Diet Coke Steve McNair. But just because I do think he is worthy of a number one pick. Not a perfect prospect by any means, but a very good prospect, a good prospect worthy of being picked first.

I've started liking this draft to the Kyler Murray 2019 draft. Good number one overall pick. Maybe not a perfect elite one with some other quarterbacks getting propped up maybe unfairly, unjustly. With this being the Kyler sort of conversation, I think that gives a little bit more weight toward going number one overall. But I'm curious, Nate, because this is what we would do mock draft the whole way through.

Do you wish the Titans would have done more like for something in free agency? Like do you love, basically what I'm saying is, do you love Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter so much that you wish the Titans would have done something else at quarterback so that they could have had the chance to pick one of those two guys? No, I think getting the quarterback right is enough, especially when you have a chance to get a guy. What I think is a good tier quarterback, like maybe not a guy that's going to hit that elite threshold, but a guy that I think would be a good starter. And I mean, obviously contract reasons too,

all that fun stuff that comes with it. And yeah, I think it's just a good prospect. All right, Connor, you're up number two, Cleveland Browns. I'm gonna go with Travis Hunter here. I mean, obviously he's still my number one player. I get the argument for Abdul Carter, him and Miles Garrett screaming off the edge would just be absolutely insane. But I like what Hunter could do on both sides of the ball for this team.

I still think, you know, we saw some flashes from Tillman last year before he got hurt. Obviously, Judy really picked it up in the second half of the season, but he'd play a little bit of wide receiver for them. He'd obviously be a lockdown corner. I wouldn't be shocked if the Browns do take him, if they just played him at wide receiver, honestly. But in this scenario, I'm going to take Hunter because he's my top player and a fit for this team.

All right. So, Cam Moore, Travis Hunter. Chuck, you're up at number three for the New York Giants, who it feels like have all sorts of quarterbacks that they don't actually want to play there on the roster. So what are we doing here? Yeah, I was tempted to draft up dual card here and just go full on monster front seven.

But I think we're gonna be a little bit responsible. We're gonna take Armand Mimbeau, the Missouri offensive tackle. I love this. Only because you start looking at the Giants offense and it's not the worst collection of skilled players you've ever seen, right? Malik Nabors, Theo Johnson, Tyler Tracy,

all solid football players. They got Darius Slayton back this year because he just loves being a New York giant, doesn't want to do anything else, wants to come back every single year for a three year, $30 million contract. But the offensive line is the poison pill here. You have like one quality offensive tackle, Andrew

Thomas, who is hurt all the time. And when he's gone, they just have nothing. Even when he's in, they don't really have much. So I think just it's not a sexy pick. It might not be a pick that Giants fans love. I was going to say it's not a pick that will save Dable's job, but I don't think there is a pick here that could save his job. I mean, look at what we're kind of dealing with here. So, you kind of start from scratch from the offensive line, take them out, hopefully Thomas can get help and you got your book in tackles for the next few years. Oh man, Connor, what do you-

I love that pick. And it's one we have not discussed, but it's one, number one, I think he's just good enough to warrant being a top three pick. He's an elite athlete. He put it all together this year in a breakout season. He plays right tackle already. So obviously he's plugging right in there.

And this is something that's failed the Giants for years. Their line, even when it looks better on paper going into the year, they deal with injuries. I have no pro, I would, if Giants fans have a problem with this pick, I would just ask why. Cause there's been a root of one of their many problems. Yeah, again, I, when you said was going to do the responsible thing, I thought you were about to say should do her like just to take like a

quarterback that you had on a rookie contract or something. But this actually is way better in my opinion for where these guys are on my board. So and just think of Russell Wilson starts this year. What's a good way to get him manageable? You, 100%. Be a starter is have an offensive line so he doesn't fall into his worst weaknesses. Absolutely.

I think both of those guys that they have, like Jameis and Russ, they hold onto the ball a lot. And if you don't have the offensive line to make it work, neither of those quarterbacks are going to succeed behind the Giants offensive line as it's currently constructed, I don't think. Way to represent, Chuck. This would be, the way I feel about the Giants offensive line as it's currently constructed, I don't think. Way to represent, Chuck. This would be, the way I feel about the Giants off season,

and I would include this fake pick and this mock draft here, is if this was, if you took this off season that they just had and said it was the start of a, it was like year one of a new regime, instead of year four of where they're at now, you'd probably be feeling a lot better, but you're going in trying to save your job with this. So let's just take a tackle and pray.

All right. There we go. That's a good one to take. Our mom and boo is awesome. Haven't seen that before. Wonder what the addicts think of that one. Pick number four. It's knowing the Patriots any time that Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter gets to the Patriots at number four, it's pretty much a sprint it into the podium for me. I'm not letting Caleb on Chase on or Anthony Jennings or Harold Landry stop me from drafting Abdul Carter. I like Keon White, but I really think that Abdul Carter now is the best pass rusher on that team almost immediately.

I think the world of this dude, I think that what we saw last year from him first year of playing full time on the edge, I think that he showed saw last year from him, first year of playing full time on the edge, I think that he showed us more than enough to have a lot of faith in him to be a top pass rusher in the NFL. So I think four is his floor, sort of no matter what happens in front of him. So I'm going to go with Carter to the Patriots there. And unless you guys have any Patriots non-Carter takes, then Nate's back up with the Jags at number five.

I think Patriots, you can make any argument for any player. It's like, yep. Like, that's why I've kind of resigned myself. So whatever they do on draft, I'll be interested in what they decide. So trade back. But I do. Yeah. But I do think this is a, you kind of have to take this pick

at any point in time if you guys are either on the board or you're controlling a team and you're thinking that you'd like for them to trade up feel free to shout it out and we try to make okay so I'm up with the Jags do I think I'd be in this it's funny do nothing I'd be in this? It's funny. Do not think I'd be in this position. Picking for the Jags or the board? The board being. Yeah, I wish. No, I I'm just looking at the guys available.

God, I actually think I'm going to go with Will Campbell here, which is not what I thought. You know, I thought he would maybe go pick before. So this is good. Why I'm going with Will Campbell and this is kind of the irony for Robert Hainsey, is I do think that he has the ability to play across the offensive line, even if it's not tackle. He is the guy that's the best five enabler. And I think the Jaguars are a team that desperately needs players like this.

You can make any argument here. The Twin Towers with McMillan would be really cool with Brian Thomas Jr. as well. Trade back would be fun. Mason Graham would make a ton of sense on the interior there. But I just think just looking at maybe even the guys that are now in charge there, I think they're no dummies of what an offensive line can solidify to your entire team, entire offense. So I think either he's center or sweater or guard for them to start out. And I think no matter what, he's on that offensive line, starting for them

at some point at somewhere across there throughout his entire career. And it's just going to lift the floor for the entire team. So Will Campbell, Jaguars, the booster for the Jags. That's how I'll put them. Connor, before we before we get to your pick next, I mean, it felt like there was a while where we kept mocking Will Campbell to the Jags at number five and then all of a sudden it kind of stopped, like whether it was for Mason Graham or like whoever it was. But I do still think that this is well on the table.

I think the two most realistic picks for them are either Mason Graham or Will Campbell. So I like that we're getting sort of a little bit of a throwback back to a reminder that he would be great for them. Yeah, and I think Nate said it best by like raising the floor of the entire unit because of his position versatility. I think it probably got away from this trend in mock drafts

just because they spent a lot of money on the offensive line, but that never means it's a complete unit. And this board broke a little differently, right? I mean, we've had Travis Hunter fall to them before, had a couple of money on the offensive line, but that never means it's a complete unit. And this board broke a little differently, right? I mean, we've had Travis Hunter fall to them before, had a couple of different scenarios. So the board breaks and you try to get one of the best players in the draft.

So Connor, just reminding you, cause you're up now with the Raiders in number six, Tyler Warden is still on the board for us. Yes. Just to, I just wanted to make sure that you were well aware of that. Yeah, I could run it back and have the comment section hate me just as much as they hated you, which is kind of nice that even if we were picking as a team, all the blame got deflected to you.

It is always really good when it can happen that way. I'm gonna take Mason Graham in this spot, and I've used this argument before, but the idea to me of a front four for the Raiders of Max Crosby, Christian Wilkins, Mason Graham and Malcolm Coons is, you know, an identity. It's something that in this division, they can really have a lot of pride in that front four and not only how they get after the quarterback, but how they can hold up against the run, which Graham does really, really well taking on double teams. He's got alignment versatility.

I mean, I would imagine he plays a lot of three tech in this situation, but I do think he could play up and down the line of scrimmage for them. And I just think he's another guy that I think is one of the best players in the draft. I know opinions are a wide range on that. And I think he's got more upside as a pass rusher, despite people being kind of low on him as a pass rusher. So Graham, to me, the Raiders, I think this is a need, a really good fit. And I like the value. Love it. Be fun with Wilkins.

Yeah, I think he'd be a great pair with Wilkins. Yeah. I think he'd be a great pair with Wilkins. Um, Chuck, I didn't realize that you, you're now picking once again for, uh, lucky New York, New York, where the football has been so good. Hopefully you got your finger on the pulse in there. Uh, I wanted, I wanted Mesa Graham here, honestly. Cause I think when you start looking at where their defensive line is outside of Quinn and Williams

last year, got a little thin pretty quick. I think you can talk about all the coaching changes that you want with the Jazz defense, but I also think it's also true that they just weren't good enough. But don't really love my options here. I think I'm gonna do a pick here that I don't think that I have seen anywhere.

I know it's someone that we haven't done. I'm gonna take Ted McMillan here for the Jets. We're gonna stick him across from Garrett Wilson. When you look at where the Jets wide receiver room is outside of Garrett Wilson, you still got some of the remnants of Aaron Rodgers best friends that are left over with Alan Lazard on the roster, not much outside of him. They had to pick on Malachi Coy last year. I don't know how much they really see him being a big factor this year with the new

coaching staff. But this would give you a legitimate starting X-Wide Receiver that you could do whatever you want with Gary Wilson within your offense. And hopefully this could be enough to get Justin Fields, maybe that breakout season we've been waiting for. I would have loved to take a tackle here. Didn't quite see one that I was in love with at seven.

So gonna take Tet and keep it rolling with the BPA. Yeah, with Membu and Campbell already off the board. Josh Simmons knee injury it kind of clouds a lot of this. I don't know how you guys feel about Josh Simmons you know before he got hurt. I loved him like I think he could have potentially been considered here but I would have really liked to see him because last year was his best season by far and he only got four games out of it so he didn't get you know a lot of the rivalry games of the big ten didn't get the college full playoff run and so I think that clouds

a little bit and I agree with you obviously I've got Ted number three over all my boards so I love I do love this one I love the idea of him getting to pair with Garrett Wilson so I'm now up with Panthers Warren spot too would you say yeah that could be a Warren I love I do love this one. I love the idea of him getting to pair with Garrett Wilson, so I'm now up with you. There's Warren spot to would you say? Yeah, that could be a war and oh totally yeah That I wouldn't get yelled at for Number eight I have the Carolina Panthers Um, I thought this was gonna be me and I panicked for a split second I thought this was going to be me and I panicked for a split second. I guess you just default to defense and be a lot. I mean, it's definitely, I think it's going to be defense.

I don't know if you guys. Can else is practically saying it out loud. Dude, that was fun. Did you, I don't know if you guys, Nate and Charles, I don't know if you saw this. I saw some quote. Yeah. He was, he was on with Kay on the Up and Atom show from the owners meetings. And Kay basically asked him like, you know, what are you doing at number eight? Like, what are you guys going to do at number eight? And he gave the very typical coach answer he gave you. Well, you know, we just want to, you know, we want a guy

who's going to be a future Carolina Panther. You know, he's like somebody who's you know, like really coachable. Somebody's going to really fit with him what we want to do in our organization. And Kay goes, you didn't give me anything there. Like she literally says that to him and she, she just like tries to set them up a little bit more. She talks about like wide receivers. She tries to sort of like lean him one way or the other. And he talked about wide receivers a little bit, but then at the end of the

quote, I don't know if I would call it panic, but he kind of goes like, we got to fix the defense first. That's basically like what he says. So I don't as much as I think they're going to love Tyler Warren as a football player, and I think that he is tempting. I don't think they're going to take him if Tetra McMillan is on the board. I think again, like those two guys are very tempting. But I think it's going to be defense here for Carolina let me see what do they do I don't think they did

anything at linebacker have Josie Jewel they have Trevin Wallace and they have Christian Rose boom after that still need a lot of work on defense yeah yeah I mean edge rusher for sure who's left with edge who I think like I think, I think they're gonna love Shamar Stewart. I don't love Shamar Stewart that much to pick him at number eight. Obviously on my board, like I take Mike Green or Donovan Zeraku before I take Shamar Stewart for them. I do love Jahad Campbell though. He I think is a major difference maker for them in the middle of that defense. They signed Trayvon Marig. I guess they could, I mean they could use Malachi Starks. They could use another corner. I'm actually gonna go with Jihad Campbell here. I think the Campbell is somebody who can, I know that they've got faith in

Trevin Wallace, but even when I watched him at Kentucky, man, I felt like he was closer to like a project type of a great athlete than he was a complete linebacker type of a player. They have Josie Jewell, but I know they'd like to get faster at the linebacker level, um, with his position. I'm going to go with Campbell because I think that he could do a lot of things for you. I think he could be an inside linebacker.

I think he could rush an inside linebacker. I think he could rush off the edge as well. He's got that body type. He's got that athleticism. I just think he's a damn good prospect. So sort of came down to him or Mike Green in my opinion, but I'll go Campbell here at number eight for the Panthers. Fun player.

Like I said, you can go defense here and it's just like, yep. Yep, basically, yeah. Any spot, basically. Any spot makes sense. Yeah. All right, Nate. I Any spot basically. Any spot makes sense. Yeah. All right, Nate. I think we're. Oh. The Saints.

The Saints. I am tempted to go quarterback here. Tempted. Speaking to me like the green goblin mask. But I am going to go with a corner back. And this is a player that's, everybody seems to be all over the place, including me and Charles. We just talked about this week, plug on football 301. And that was Will Johnson. Corner. Michigan. Just because if you look after they traded Marshawn Latimore, they have guys out there, but they really only have one starting corner real starting corner, and that's a cool in McKinstry

Alante Taylor plays inside and out for him depending on their makeup But now you get a guy that I was super high on early in the year Middle of the year is kind of tapered off. I think I'm at nine on my big board right now Charles is a little higher as well, but we talked about it's that like he has outside corner ability. He does not have elite long speed or I wouldn't even say very good long speed. But I think his body positioning is really good. And he has some length and size that you know, that's his deciding factor. That is how he wins as a position player. But you also injury stuff as

well. But I just like him. I think he they go for more high upside types, the saints, I mean, but I, I just do think Johnson is just a good player at a spot they need some good players at. And also just kind of how the board is. Broken. Like I kind of have just now kind of maybe this is where I defer to position wise. It's it, it feels as though Will Johnson has just been creeping down the consensus board as the draft process has gone on.

But Chuck, Nate was saying that you are also pretty high on Will Johnson, so you like him? Yeah, I just can't get that 2023 out of my head. Yeah. It was just insane. Because I started a few days ago on our show, but when I thought about Will Jatza coming to the season, I was like, am I even, do I even need to watch this?

I saw it last year and that's about as good as a quarterback prospect gets. Then obviously this year was up and down. And you know, I think it's funny now that we just kind of accept that, hey, that guy just kind of stopped playing in the middle of the season because they weren't really playing for much. And we're just all kind of good with that.

I still think that, you know, there's still some questions to ask, like Nate said about his long speed, about the ankle injury, about like, you know, what really happened there. Because Michigan, you know, they beat Ohio State and you weren't really a part of that at all. Uh, it's a thing. It'd be interesting just to talk to him about that, but still the talent, man, I,

I can't get over what he did in 2023. And, uh, even, you know, some clips earlier this year before, uh, before he got hurt and things got south and he was kind of done with it. I'm still just a big believer in the talent way that I think even at nine, this feels like a big steal. I think that we don't, we've talked about this a little bit on our show, but I don't think we give corners enough grace like for the position in general, right? We sort of talk about it like baseball where you know you're going to fail, like you're

just going to fail at the position. It's basically inevitable. But I don't, it's hard for people to accept that corner is just kind of up and down every year, like even for the best guys, like you can have great years of corner, you'll be a lockdown dude. And then it can fall off immediately for you. And sometimes you can go back like, sauce, I'm not saying like sauce. Right. I was all pros and then down here. And we all still look at him as if he is a good corner. I think that we should do the same with Will Johnson It's just gonna be very curious to see where he has a J Terrell year in your yeah, man

He's a good player I know he's a good player but it's like his results have not they go so up and down especially in an Environment he's in I end up comparing Will Johnson the Sean Livingston on our pod Did you defensively say, you know, post surgery, post surgery, Sean Livingston, because he knows how to use his body. But he's always knows how to use the high IQ, so where in the high IQ? Yeah, I'm not making him sound like this guy can't run. Like he's probably just a low four or five guy, but, you know, four or five, two.

But I just think that he wins in other ways and I think he's can win that way in the NFL All right, Connor. You're over the Bears number ten. What do we got? I'm not gonna take Gentie here, which we do a lot and listen Ash and Gentie would be awesome in this offense There's no problem taking him I do think they can get a starting running back at I think thirty nine and forty one are both their second round picks, which is good living, especially in this class. I have no problem with going gente here. We're gonna go a little different route and take Mike Green and just get him a pure pass rusher in this defense. I mean, obviously this front has talent. Montez sweat playing across from him is nice.

He got Grady Jarrett as a veteran interior guy. Gervan Dexter is a bulkier kind of guy, but Green just a pure pass rusher, both standing up and with his hand in the dirt here, obviously insane agilities, which you could see it on tape. It's not a lot of guys move like him at 250 pounds. So for the Bears, I mean, it wouldn't shock me. Obviously Carter's insane, but like if Green ends up, I mean, it wouldn't shock me. Obviously, Carter's insane. But like if Green ends up, you know, matching his pass rush production

the first couple of years, would it be the craziest thing in the world? We never talk about that, but I don't think it would be. I think he's that good in that role. Yeah, I agree. I mean, he's he's a hell of a football player. And I think that we saw that when we were at the Senior Bowl as well. So yeah Yeah, I don't they obviously have Austin Booker there, but I don't write that

I'm like there that's the bonus at this point, you know, like awesome booker awesome Booker does not preclude you from Right exactly. Yeah, I like awesome Booker and he actually did okay as a rookie too But like yeah, he doesn't and you, they sign, he might not be a perfect fit for what he likes. Dennis Allen. That's a good point. The big size guy. But the thing is they already have that. So maybe it's the, okay, then you get the guy that's a different style fit and then you move on from Montez, you know, as maybe a year or two goes along. They have choices more than you would think. It's kind of, well, they've done a really good job I think polls has done a good job over the last two off seasons now of like building one hell of a roster, right? Oh now it's just about making sure they're keeping their heart

No, I mean seriously they're keep walking down that yellow brick road Truly truly they just got to execute now at this point Chuck's up at number 11 with the San Francisco 49ers before we get to that though God asked the good people out there and to all the parents specifically what your child's future success looked like for you guys Maybe it's a job that they're very passionate about. Maybe it's them travel in the world Maybe it's them just you know live in life with a good family and just very very Comfortable and confident whatever they're doing in life Maybe it's them just, you know, living life with a good family and just very, very comfortable and confident, whatever they're doing in life.

Whatever that is, you can help them achieve that with a kids investment account from Fabric by Gerber Life. Fabric by Gerber Life, it was designed by parents for parents to make it easy to plan for and manage your family's financial path. With a kids investment account from Fabric, you can start investing in your child's future today. Your kids can't invest while they're minors, but you can invest on their behalf with this kid's investment account.

Whole thing is online. Starts at just $20, no contribution limits to it, it's got tax advantages, funds are SIPC and share up to $500,000. There's no commission fees to it, just a low flat monthly maintenance fee. Those funds can be used for basically anything. When they're kids, it's music classes, sporting events,

tutors, it's tuition, things like that. And then when they're a little bit older, maybe it is you helping them buy that first house, start a business, buy that first car, whatever that is. Join the thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family. Start investing today in your child's future at meetfabric.com slash stock exchange. It's meetfabric.com slash stock exchange. M-E-E-T, fabric.com slash stock exchange. EET fabric.com slash stock exchange. The portfolios are managed by Fort Washington

Investment Advisors Incorporated. Additional services provided by apex clearing corporation all investing is subject to risk and you learn more at meet fabric.com 49ers. Wow, you're really good at reading. That was good. I know. That was good. Charles walked in comes into the green room. We're talking weddings and now we got a Gerber ad read,

and he's like, what did I just sign up for? It's a family podcast. I've read that ad so many times, I could probably say it without the script, to be honest with you. The ad was pretty good. You know, you trick shot at the end. You were no looking at the end, so I believe that.

Hey, Fabric cannot doubt my commitment and my consistency. That's one thing that we cannot question here with this ad and we appreciate him. All right, number 11, what are we doing here? Niners. We're gonna go Shadoura Sanders. No, I'm joking. I'm joking.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I wish you did. Oh, man. I'm actually gonna, I'm gonna steal one from Big Mike Tice and take Josh Connelly, the Oregon offensive tackle here. Okay. I just feel like at some point they gotta get serious about this tackle situation.

Like you have Trent Williams and obviously he's great. He's obviously getting to the end of his career. Colton McKivitz has started so many games for the 49ers and I don't really understand why that's been the case. And I just think you have this scheme and as long as Shani has been doing it, he's been able to make running games out of offensive lines that don't have great pedigree, running backs that don't have great pedigree, running backs that don't have great pedigree,

but I think they just kind of got to the end of the rope there a little bit, so why not just shoot the O-line with some youth, with some talent. Connelly's got big ceiling, and obviously he'd be an upgrade over what they have now. I think he'd be a good fit with what Shannon had run. So just some of the gym ceiling offensive line,

I think is something that the 49ers really need, And this is a place where they can start at least. I love the thought process here with going offensive line. We normally don't take Connerly here. Normally, it's a hey, it's just Will Campbell get to this point. But with as much zone stuff as they like to run, it was really more of like, Memboo makes sense for them. Josh Simmons makes sense for them. Kelvin Banks could make sense for them. But I haven't known Connerly and Chuck, you said that you're taking a page out of Nate's playbook here with this one. So his dad's playbook. My dad. I'm high on my dad was this my dad's O Lyman one period. Okay. Yeah, we need to get pops on the show. So I was about to ask like, all right, we got Connerly going at 11. So you guys really like him a lot that yeah, I like him in the 20s. But I know I was even higher on that. Yeah, but no, I get this fit too. If there's this is a great landing spot for him because he I think he's athletic enough that he can transition to the right side and then you hope in the future he goes to the left and takes over for Trent Williams, You want a guy that can maybe do that and maybe even a pinch play guard. I think actually his movement ability is perfect in this. But yeah, I just,

I think offensive line is like really a truly dire need for this team at this point. Trenches period. And I just thought at this point, this is one of the guys that just fit the best with what they're going. And he's got the potential actually live up to this dress that so Yeah, go. Yeah. All right, Trevor put you had the grade by game for Connerly Yeah, I thought that was perfect kind of descriptor of the UCLA game is eye test for me was when he turned it when he

Clicked for him and it was kind of cool when you pulled that up and I was like, yeah Yeah, look at the great but It was kind of hey. Hey, yeah, but that's when it clicked for him. It really did. You know, play strength is something he's still developing. But I mean, there's not many big guys that move like this. And his hands got better. And he's young. It's just, it's an upside pick. But I'm with Chuck. And I'm with my dad on it. I

remember running back man, like, it's crazy, crazy. I remember when we were doing summer scouting on the show. Um, I didn't love Connor Lee as much. I think Connor, I think Connor, you had him higher than I did when we did summer scouting and I was just, I was worried about the play strength. Like in 2023, I thought the play strength issues were pretty glaring. And especially when we talk about guys who are about to get drafted to the league, like if you're talking about him as, you know, true freshmen or whatever, and I know Connerly's

younger so this does this part of it does make sense, but I think that some people go like, Oh, well, you know, like, when he gets stronger, when he eventually gets stronger, and I don't think it's as much of a guarantee as we make it out to be. So unless I really see you flip the switch and play with strength a little bit more, I'm very hesitant to buy into you. But Connerly definitely showed more strength this year while continuing to play with pretty high athleticism

like Conner was talking about, multi-position background there for him in high school. Anytime you have a former running back who's now playing as an offensive tackle, that's pretty good. You're pretty happy with that and how well those guys move. Okay. Cowboys. Dallas Cowboys at 12. Instant social clip. What'd you say? Instant social clip. That's a running joke on Yahoo. joke on Yahoo. That's true. The easy one is Gentie, which I don't hate here for them.

I think they need a wide receiver badly next to CD-LAM. If Tet was still on the board, I'd love that one. Yeah, that's the one I'm kind of sprinting in. Dude, ah. You weren't put in the best spot with this pick. No, this is tough. I mean, no. It doesn't look like McMillan's a no-brainer if he's there. Right. I think McMillan is a no-brainer. I

kind of want to go O-line. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Because you know, you've got Guyton, you've got Tyler Smith and like Guyton even still has to solidify himself as like, okay, we feel great about him at offensive tackle. But like Terrence Steele has been super up and down over the last three or four years. I feel like BB was able to step in, but you're losing Zack Martin and that's not going to be an easy thing to do. I'm going to take Calvin Banks Jr. I'm going to take a page out of my co-host Dalton Washman

on the PFF NFL show. He's higher on Banks than I am, but I love the idea of Calvin Banks going to this team because I think he starts at right guard for them right away in Zach Martin's absence. And then if Tyler Guyton or Terrence Steele, aren't playing up to par, you can kick Calvin Banks out to tackle and you can feel great about it. It's a little bit like the Will Campbell pick when Nate was talking about him for the Jags, you basically play him in a couple of different spots and feel pretty great about it.

So as much as I do think Gentie is an option for them, and I think that he would be a good pick, I think he helps out this team. I think the O-line is a couple pieces away actually from really maximizing a high running back pick. So I'm actually gonna take Kelvin Banks Jr. here for the Cowboys at 12. Do I understand that? I thought you were gonna say Simmons,

and I was like, yeah, just keep throwing broken offense alignment at the problem. And I was like, yeah, just keep throwing broken offense alignment at the problem. And then some of them got to stay healthy and work it out over doing him and Guyton. And that's honestly why I don't want to do that. I love Simmons a lot. But going through the knee injury that he did,

it's hard for me to take that at 12 when you really need to nail an offensive line pick. Nate, Dolphins 13. I will just say the name right away and I'll explain it. Malachi-Starks. Okay. And look at their safeties. Right.

And that's, I think that's really it. But I think that's, it's the Dolphins that have guard or safety here would make a ton of sense. The offensive line, but Simmons one would be a guy that I would be interested here. But you know, are you going to throw another injured player at your offense and your team? I think Starks is, I mean, I think this is his range. This is where it starts. It's a team fit for them.

I mean, if you look at their safety situation, they have more stopgap types and Malafon Wu and Davis. And I think, I think just honestly, Starks is, this is what, he's a good solidifier on the backend. He allows for versatility. I also think it's just, he'll fit and really sounds weird with the guy. That's usually when a guy's versatile, you're kind of like, Oh, you kind of want them with this defense or you kind of want them with this defense. Starks, I kind of see fitting in a lot of different defenses, even if he's not maybe exceptional. I think he's just

good in a lot of areas. Charles and I talked about him the other day, it was that it's weird because his low lights are bad tackling wise, but I do think he's a good tackler. I don't know how else to describe it. It's like, it's just that his bad his missed tackles are really he gets dumped on a lot. Yeah. And then but it's like when the overarching theme it's like actually he's a pretty solid tackler. He fills it up. He'll he's got some range you know so I just think also because they

have no real long term commitments and safety spots other spots on the roster are all about upside for them. Hey if this guy's healthy Hey if this guy's healthy Hey if this guy's healthy. So kind of getting into their headspace I think stars kind of fits the bill for them. Hey, if this guy's healthy, hey, if this guy's healthy, hey, if this guy's healthy. So kind of getting into their head space, I think Starix kind of fits the bill for them. I also think he's a great building block. I agree with this pick in a lot of ways because something that we're doing at PFF

that we're hoping to roll out over the next week or so is having team specific top 100 big boards. And the way that we're doing that is sort of modifying my big board with a lot of information on like, how we have seen teams use their scheme over the last year. And when you look at the Miami Dolphins, their safety alignment, they played a single high alignment 49% of the time, they played a two high alignment 51% of the time, they also

basically based everything that they did out of nickel. So they have a lot of safety versatility in the different types of plays that they want. And they also want five defensive backs on the field. I think Malachi Starks gives you the ability to play him in the slot. You could play him at free, you could play him at strong, depending on what you want to do there. So I think he's also a scheme fit for how versatile the Dolphins want to be. And they will need to add more like defensive back help

over the next couple of years. And I think as they do that, they can sort of move Starks around as a little bit like almost like a sort of like a best five out there. When we talk about that with offensive line, you can talk about that with a defensive back nickel alignment as well. And I think that Starks is a pretty good fit for that.

So Starks off the board. Go ahead, go ahead. They don't have a long-term commitment to Kahu, who's their nickel. Right. So that's, yeah, so there's not, it's not like they have an investment there too. So that's part of it too.

Connor, Indianapolis Colts at number 14. I will remind you, the Tyler Warren is actually still on the board here. It's a layup. Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, this is a layup for me with Warren. I mean, they need a tight end. I think they need a presence in the middle of the field like him. Obviously, Downs is going to play the slot, but Warren can play on the line of scrimmage, off the line of scrimmage. Big middle of the field target for a while to say this, Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones, we'll see how this shakes out. Warren helps both of them, whoever that goes.

He's shook. I mean, he's on his own. He didn't even smirk at all, he just, it was just, Mike and I. Just a clown show, man, whatever. I don't love it either, at all, but I do love Warren on this team the way he makes them But I mean the let's say logic prevails and Anthony Richardson wins the starting job

The idea of the run looks you can give with Warren on the line of scrimmage Jonathan Taylor and Richardson is pretty insane and then the play action with Warren running the seam you can develop off that I don't know if he makes it to them, but man, I love this fit if it happens. That is so easy. Right? It's like the easiest pick of this craft. It's a clean fit.

Yeah. And also just some of the, even though other tight ends, I know there was like, oh, they need a tight end. They have nice complementary tight ends. Right, they need the guy. All the coolish flash and all those kind of things. But it's nice to have like a ace in the room. I saw this. I was reading this article on Colts calm earlier.

And classic Colts calm. Yay. And they're, they're, they're talking about like the team needs here. And they're, they're so desperate for a tight end that in all due respect, like, Ballard was praising how much they missed Jack Doyle. Like that how much they were like, like, we miss Jack Doyle so much. Like he's a, you know, he could do everything for us. He could block, he could catch him. Like if you're singing Jack Doyle's praises again, all due respect, that much.

Yeah. You're looking for a tight end in this draft. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, a hundred percent. How do you're singing Jack Doyle's praises again, I'll do respect that much Yeah, you're looking for a tight end in this draft. Yeah, absolutely Jack Doyle Sign Yeah, we I was with the Raiders and we thought we were gonna get him and then he signs a three-year 18 million dollar contract 18.9 at that time was actually decent money. It's already shot through the roof since then. That was in 2017. I was like, oh, we're gonna get this guy. And then also these splashes, big contract with the Colts. I was like, yeah, I didn't think so.

This tape was like, yeah, this guy's like decent. There's no way this guy has the streets. All right, Charles, you're up 15. How the hell did I end up with the Falcons? Wait, is it right? You're at 15? Yeah, what the hell? That's perfect.

You set the order. The two New York teams and then the Falcons? What the hell? I'm like, Christ, you made the sandwich. I know, yeah, I literally can't escape from it. Shoot. Okay, first of all, why is wide receiver, don't give Terry any ideas,

wide receiver being listed as a new here. If they take a wide receiver, don't give Terry any ideas. Wide receiver being listed as a new here. If they take a wide receiver round one, I'm walking to Atlanta and we're gonna have some harsh words for what the operation they got going on. But here, I don't think you can go wrong picking literally any defensive lineman. You let Grady Jarrett go. David Aliaman is still here.

He's not the player he used to be. Ruka Rororo, who they drafted last year, was not great when he got on the field either. And outside of him, they don't really have too many bodies. So I'm gonna take Derek Harmon from Oregon. There is no one quick fix here for the Falcons defensive line, but I think just getting a big, credible plugger

in the middle that has some pass rush juice is a good place for them to start if they ever wanna have a prayer of rebuilding this thing again, which they probably won't. So Derek Harmon, you were sealed to the same fate as Grady Jarrett, and you will be playing by yourself for the next seven years before they let you go when it's too late.

See, this is why I'm glad that somehow... That's a lifetime of understanding. That's why, that's why I'm so glad, I'm so glad this was rigged so you had this pick. Just for that alone. Just for that alone. Do you, Derek Harman versus Walter Nolan? Like any thoughts on there with like those two interior defense or like I guess I'll throw Kenneth Grant in there as well because all three of those guys are available. You obviously take Derek Harmon who a lot of people love in this class for good reasons certainly for the pass rush chop.

He was able to develop this year but any thoughts on like him versus those other three? I kind of think if you're split on Grant or Nolan, like if those are your two, I think harm's kind of a fair, you know, meets you in the middle. Cause I think they're kind of on the extremes of one another to a degree. Cause I think with Nolan,

I think a lot of his best stuff comes when he can like get off a lot quick and get in space and start chasing down. Especially from the backside, Kenneth Grant, obviously, if you've watched him play five plays, you get the deal is there. He's gonna sit on the line of scrimmage, he's gonna beat up your interior offensive line and hopefully try to make some plays in the backfield. But I think with Harmon, you actually get someone who can make plays in both ranges,

in the run and pass. So you just get a little bit more, maybe well rounded playmaking, I think for me than the other two. So I'm gonna take him here and I hope that can be the start for them starting to rebuild that defensive line. All right, Cardinals at 16, this is me. I think they certainly need defensive line still. The two guys that we just talked about, Walter Nolan and Kenneth Grant, I think

make a ton of sense, even with them signing Dalvin Tomlinson, they signed, um, Josh Swett as well. They have Baron Browning, they have Darius Robinson, but I think he's more of that like interior defensive end spot than like a true pass rusher. I don't know how much he's going to develop into that. We've taken Will Johnson here for the Cardinals before. I don't know if they would take Jadé Barron, but I would take Jadé Barron. I love Jadé Barron a lot. I think he could play on the outside. I think he'd play on the inside. I think he

really fits with a lot of the versatility that they already have with Sean Murphy, Bunting, Garrett Williams, guys like that where they can play inside or out and they have throughout their careers. Barron has done the same and this is a defense that played zone coverage on more than 65% of their snaps last year. So they were a heavy zone coverage team and I like Jaday Barron as a zone corner type of a player.

So I think he's a scheme fit. I think he showed this past season that he could play really well on the outside. I think he's a really smart player. And going back a little bit to what Nate was saying about Will Johnson, I think Jaday Barron does the same thing with like positioning. I know he ran a fast 40,

but there are some times when you watch him play and you go, okay, well, your four yard dash is good, but the 10-foot yard split really being able to put your foot in the ground and change direction pretty quickly. Sometimes I questioned that a little bit for you to be an outside corner and one-on-one situations, but when he's allowed to play off coverage, I think he positions himself in zone well enough to where like he can make up for it. And I think that's why you saw a lot of ball production there from him this year.

So I'll stick with corner and a common pick that we have for the Cardinals at 16. And I'll go with a player who I have in my top 10, and Jadah Baron, who makes it here. Kind of been defaulting Walker to him, Jalen Walker to him, because I just think it's a fun fit. But also, I haven't really thought about, yeah, let's get a versatile DB in that defense,

because that's kind of a fun, wacky defense. So it's kind of fun. I haven't really marinated on that kind of player team fit, but I like it. It's fun. I'm not the biggest Jalen Walker fan. I have too many concerns with him to mock him where I think a lot of other people mock him

in mock trials. Chase the dragon. Very true. What did you say? Chase the dragon. him to mock him where I think a lot of other people mock him in my dragon very what'd you say chase the dragon yeah I'm just I'm very curious I'm very curious like where you guys what you guys think of him or where he ends up going in this mock draft here but Nate you're back on the clock with the Bengals number 17 This is one. Oh, we got to do it. So now, now I'm adding, now, now I'm going to go full mad. He said, do it for bed and go full mad. Oh man. No, I'm going to, I'm going to do a smart thing.

This is, this is one I'm going to probably have in my next rankings. It might be a little rich, but the guy doesn't have to travel far. I'm going to shore up the offense here. Continue to shore up the offense. Put a hat on a hat, if you will. Going Donovan Jackson, Ohio State. And a guy that I think maybe my dad kind of like unshackled me with my takes on him

is that kind of like, yeah, I really like this guy. And I think this should be his range. And I think he's a guard at the NFL level, which the Bengals need to shore up. I think he has the strength to be a really good pass protector, and he has the big build to be a good pass protector as well, to really shore it up for Burrow, which I think they need.

And I know they need defense. I almost went Kenneth Grant here. Like that was my other guy I'm looking at. You know, the corner stuff I'm kind of looking at as well. Anywhere on defense for them kind of makes sense too. But man, screw it. Let's just go supernova on the offense. Let's just make that pocket nice and nice and big for Joe Burrow to operate out of.

And I just really like Jackson. Again, I see him as a guard, but the tackle versatility is also nice because that's what the Bengals go through every year, it seems like. So yeah, I just think nice, sturdy, long player as well, moves well. I think his best football is in front of him. I just really like him. He's going to move up my big board, but I already saw him as a top 30 player. It's so funny, Nate, that that was your pick because when I knew you had the Bengals and

I had Seattle, I was like, man, I need a backup plan if he takes Gray Zabel. And I was like, oh, my backup plan is Donovan Jackson, which if you ask anyone watching this before the draft started, I don't think anybody would think he'd be in the mock draft. But we are we had two people that were willing to take him top 20 easily. Easily. Yeah. So I mean, so obviously you know what I'm doing here,

but yeah, that's. I don't know if Bengals are gonna go North Coast state, you know, they're one of those, they like the big school kind of guys too. So yeah, I always, they might not have scouts sent out to North Coast state. Yeah, they outsource that kind of. Literally. Let's go. And like Nate said, we here on the show like to point out,

Columbus, Ohio, only a little over an hour away from Cincinnati, low moving costs. The lowest. All you got to do is rent a big truck for a day. You don't have to go cross country with all of his stuff, to move stuff out of his apartment. It's, it's just right, it's right down the road, it's low moving costs. A house date was on a lot of, you know, a lot of TV games, you didn't have to use streaming

services to watch them. 100%. You're okay, you know, you don't have to worry about paying for those. Bengals, they got to save money to pay the wide receivers in Hendrickson when they get the deal done, so this is how you do it. It helps the budget, it helps the O-line, you know, I love this pick, this is a good one. All right, Connor, you're taking Gray Zabel for the ECOXIDA team.

Yeah, it was always interior here. I think Zabel, it's gonna be interesting how their day two shakes out where they have multiple picks because there's a world where they take Zabel here and they give them a look at center in this spot, but there's also a world where they get a center on day two and Zabel plays guard and fun fact, they could, they need both those things.

Like they could be drafting both those spots in the first three rounds of the draft and with legit day one starters. So, and I think that's what Zabel is. He's obviously logged over a thousand snaps at each tackle spot. He's played on the interior, senior bully played everywhere.

So this is, you kind of feel really good about this pick of your Seattle. They, these are two teams that desperately need interior offensive line in the Bengals and the Seahawks, so I would not be shocked to see two offensive linemen go off the board back to back there like you did here. Chuck, you're up. Buccaneers number 19.

I'm gonna go with Shemar Stewart here. I think this is a fair range to take a dice roll like that. And I think a lot of the concerns that I have with him are, I just don't think he sees the game all that well. For someone who's played as much football as he has, some of the things that he lets slip by are fairly alarming, but maybe you can simplify that by putting him next to Vita Vea and Kalaja Kansi and a bunch of linebackers that are going to blitz and topple

his defense. Because even someone like Yahya Diaby, who has gotten off to a nice start with Tampa Bay, his whole thing is, well, I'm fast and I play hard. And in that defense, that kind of works. So, you know, I think Stuart, like I said, there's still a ways to go as far as him recognizing just what's going on out there, but you can't teach 270 running to four or five, jumping out the gym. And even with the production concerns that I have, recognition concerns, this makes a lot of sense here to me. They still need help on the edge as far as you know building out another like young

pass rush group goes. They signed Hassan Reddick this offseason which you know that was an whole ordeal speaking of the Jets last year so I don't know how much of this you can really count on so we're gonna take a dice roll with Smart Stewart with the 19th pick here. It, I think that they do need more. Um, I, I would, I would say pastor's juice. I think it's just straight up pastor's production, like however they can get it. You know, cause like, I think as Rock who's probably on the board for them as well. And you know, he obviously wins with a little bit of juice.

He's an athlete enough for the NFL, but he's a lot more of a technician and how he wins, but they just need backfield production. I do think that it would be hilarious because you brought up Yaya Diaby. Diaby at the combine just over six foot three, 263 pounds, four five one forty yard dash, 96 percentile, one five six ten yard split, 93rd percentile, 37 inch vertical jump, 86th percentile. Shamar Stewart, just under six foot five, 267 pounds, 459, 40 yard dash, 158, five yard split, 40 inch vertical jump. I mean, just that's, that's just stupid edge rush athleticism that you would have on both

sides demanding tackles to be able to block that. So I do think that's the way it is. And this is because Jihad Campbell's gone. Yes. That's also the easiest team player fit. I think they would sprint in the podium if Jihad Campbell was sprinting the card to the podium. I should say if Jihad Campbell was here. I wonder if they would do the same with Jaylen Walker.

I've heard they kind of like him. I can see that. I could definitely see that. But I don't know how much. Any wonky defenses. I don't know how much they feel like they got burned by Devin White. You know what I'm saying?

And if they see him as sort of the same. Because obviously they loved the Devin White archetype enough to draft him at five. So clearly they were all in at one point. White's not on the team anymore. So I wonder if sort of like how those things ended and how he had an unbelievable, maybe they just leaned into, hey,

the Super Bowl run that he had, the type of player he was. If we get Jalen Walker, he's more of like, he's got like the coaches kid background, like they love who he is that facility is still there. Yeah. So I wonder if they would be in on him as well. 20th pick couldn't be easier for me. This is action gente. The fact that action gente made it here to number 20 would be the gift of all gifts to the Denver Broncos. I understand that

Colson Loveland still on the board and you know, they could do that. But you know, they signed Evan Ingram, which I think gives them the board and you know they could do that, but you know they signed Evan Ingram which I think gives them the freedom and flexibility to be able to take a guy like Ash and Gentie if he falls or Omarion Hampton if he is still here also gives them the chance to Upgrade on the interior defensive line which we have done before in mock joust, but with Gentie here No-brainer just absolutely no-brainer in my opinion so he immediately becomes rb1 for them at number 20 So Nate you were back on the clock with the Steelers at 21. Yeah, that was an easy one. I'm gonna go Because this is what I'm doing and I'm saying oh, what was that? Oh, oh Aaron Rogers

Just signed a two-year deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, don't take quarterbacks. So we are gonna go Savone Ravel Junior for me line his name is Savon. Look that up. That was a mind popper for me. We know because we've been we've been saying it wrong for too long. We had a full episode saying how to come to Jesus moment about it.

Even as we're praising him just saying his name wrong 100 times. But nature's a killer, man. Oh, yeah. That was OK. Yeah, OK. I wasn't expecting that one. Honestly, because, god, that could be a really fun pairing.

And also, there's not an absolute need for him to play right away, or at least work back from the rust from his injury, because they signed Darius Slay. But I just love, this is a team that has needed two corners for ever. And then Joey Porter Jr. is really ascending into a very high quality starting corner.

So now let's get him a running mate, something that could be really fun. And if they do sign Aaron Rodgers, that's a team built for trying to ramp up this year. So I think just for fit, I really like the player. I'm very high on him personally. I know you're scrolling down with his injury, but we actually also on our show compared him.

It was kind of funny. We compared him each to a Cromartie, but different Cromarties. I went Antonio Cromartie and Charles's comparison was Dominique Rogers Cromartie. Oh, I like that actually. And yeah, Antonio Cromartardi came back from an ACL injury before he was drafted at 19, I think, by the Chargers.

And yeah, I just think he's got outside cornerability, starter quality, because he's got some twitch. He's long. I think his ball skills and play skills are good. And also when you watch him, it's when, yes, you're playing lower level talent, but you want to see that guy dominate and that's what he was doing.

He was looked like the best player on the field. So yeah, I really like him pretty high on him. It's funny here in the Kermade brought up, Trevor, when we did our corner episode, this was, can't remember if it was before the combine or right after. I think it was before. Yeah. Like guys, he does have some of those plays where you look

at the athlete, he gets, he has no idea what he was doing at the line of scrimmage, and he's just so freakish He gets to the ball and takes the ball away, and it's like yeah there's not a lot of guys on planet Earth that could do that at the corner position and Revel is this one that can he's he's gifted Probably where he ran down a crosser, and he almost overruns the yes Because he had up to he caught up too fast, which is like, that's what I want to see, though. Yeah, it's some unchanneled aggression and ability.

But it's like, hey, these are the traits that you want to see from a corner. If he was healthy, a lot of people think he could have broke 4'4 at that size, which is very believable. Oh, I think so, too. If he had a senior bowl week, he'd be blown up. Yep.

Like, just because teams would just look at those trades and go, oh my God. Right, right, right. I think he's floor of a second round pick. And then if you are totally confident with what he's gonna be coming off the ACL, this is not far fetched at all for him to be picked in the 20s of the first round.

So, Connor, you're up at the charges of 22. I just want to give Chuck a huge thank you. This is the easiest mock draft I've ever had. Like every pick is just, I've used no brain power. I'm taking Colson Loveland here at 22. And this has been like half of my picks where I'm like, how do I not make that pick? Listen, in this spot, I know they brought Conklin

in on a one year deal as a little bit of a bridge player there. You get Loveland as such a dynamic threat in this offense. Helps that the coach knows the player pretty well. I mean, he's a great route runner for his size. You could argue he might have the best hands in the draft, the concentration climbing the ladder when plays break down. And I think he's just going to play a lot heavier than people expected. Like once that shoulder heals up and he starts lifting again,

I really think he's gonna be more of a 255, 257 kind of player and that inline stuff will, it'll take a jump. Like he'll give you more than, this isn't Dalton Kincaid is how I look at it. He's got more to him I think playing on and off the line of scrimmage. So Loveland's just a no brainer for the Char if if he can make it to 22 that remains to be seen

I've been See Oxford my sneaky team for him I I was thinking tight end there if if there was just nothing for interior line But I was happy with say well, but yeah, it's a good call fans on the last year of his deal They don't got much make that all Michigan a tight end room him and AJ Barner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The hardball stares at it wistfully. Going, Oh,

I think that I think that the tight end group has been impressive as we've gotten like official measurements, whether it's been at the senior bowl or at the combine. Like, when I watched, for example, like when I watched Elijah Royal from Miami, I was like, okay, are you like, you know, 63 to 35? Because you move like you're like, you shouldn't be 65 to 50. And then he measures in he's 65 to 50. He's like, okay, now we're talking about something. And then for Loveland, I

wondered, are you closer to 63 than you are 65? Because you move so well, because you run routes so well. And then he shows up at like over 6'5 and like 250 pounds and I agree with Connor like he could even put some more weight on and so now that you see like how well these guys move it actually verified NFL type of weights. I think it's it's not hard to fall in love with a lot of the tight ends that we have in this class for sure Charles you have the distinct honor Of trying to make Packers fans happy here in a mock job for good luck 23 Yeah, Jalen Walker's on the board, right? He is still on the board. Yeah, let's take that Going him and coop and that's your Cooper. Yeah? Yeah, we're just gonna draft him, figure it out later. I'm surprised he's still on the board here.

I don't think I view him as like a full-time Edgerusher, but I think he's closer to that than playing like full-time off the ball linebacker. The Packers, they could definitely use some more juice out of their edge rush. I think you look at where they were last year, Lucas Van Ness has been kind of a disappointment. Man, what's the, why am I blanking on his name right now?

Rashawn Gary, he was up and down last year and outside of that, they didn't have too much. So I think, I understand why people say Jalen Walker's a risk. I don't know if there's just like a rational belief, but I just kind of think he's gonna figure it out wherever you stick him. I like him best if you can just keep him coming forward,

whether that's a blitzer, where it's off the edge and kind of limit what the true off ball stuff that you're going to see in the NFL. Because I don't know if he's someone that you want, you know, maybe match it up against like a tight end or running back all that often, but still, you know, moving forward is where I think he's at his best and the Packers, they certainly need that. I think a lot of people would tell you that at the very least 23 is huge value for Jaylen Walker. So I think that that's a that's that's I we I haven't thought about him with the Packers but him and Edger and Cooper at the end the same at the same linebacker level is just a hell of a lot of speed whether they're blitzin whether

they're running and chasing whatever that is. Okay I have another ad read that I'm about to do to pay the bills. But I think the Vikings are the most likely team to trade out of the first round with them only having four picks, they pick a 24 here. And then they don't pick again until nine. I laugh every time I see that. Why? Because you don't think they're going to? No, no, because no, I remind myself every time. No picks. That's right. That's all. That's it. Right. That's right. Oh, okay. Like I just remind myself. Oh, yeah. Is it because the Dallas Turner trade? Yeah. Yeah.

Then they also have the, they also trade out for McCarthy though. They traded one spot from McCarthy. So it's like they had that. And then the Dallas Turner one was the big one. Right. They've given up. They just keep, you know, middle round picks. So. Pezzas. I say that to say, I would love the trade out of the first round here. As I am reading this ad, if you guys can find a team sort of beginning of second round and

look at the board and be like, okay, like this team could trade up for, I know it's sort of like whoever they could trade up for, but like Sanders is still on the board here. Could a team trade up and get a quarterback? You know, Kenneth Grant is still here, Matthew Golden's still here. We get a lot of decent players who are on the big board, but I would love to trade back from this spot if you guys find any team that is compelling enough to do it. But, while they do that, NFLSC's draft coverage is brought to you in part by our friends over at Jack Link's Duos. Jack Link's knows that there is nothing like a great duo. So they created the new Jack Link's Duos.

This new product by them brings two great flavors into one bag. That means you get two of their legendary flavors at the same time. Now it's not you know one piece of beef jerky has two different flavors on it. No, no, it's all it's two different types of beef jerky that are in one bag. Just like Jack Link's the NFL gives us great duos every single year. Jamar Chase reunited with Joe Burrow and the Bengals obviously Pukinakua teaming up with Cooper Cup in LA and we saw how great that that worked out. One of the duos that I absolutely love that I see all the time is like Abdul Carter for example getting to team up with Cooper Cup in LA and we saw how great that that worked out. One of the duos that I absolutely love that I see all the time is like Abdul Carter for example getting to team up with Miles Garrett I mean that would be

absolutely terrifying if you had to stare at a defensive line with both those guys coming out off the edge so that's a duo that we love but you can find a lot of duos Jax links that you love as well they got mango and jalapeno obviously for the fruity flavor and the spicy flavor they got original and teriyaki in the same bag they got buffalo style and ranch which you already know is a phenomenal compliment there. So find Jack Link's duo's wherever you buy Jack Link's beef jerky today, your local convenience store, or even at select Walmart's as well. So you guys should check that out. Do we have

any ideas of who could potentially trade up here? Cleveland's sitting there at 33. That's it. Yeah. And you reunite him and Hunter. And Jimmy Hazlitt will totally do that too. Yeah. They get to just own the headlines of the entire draft.

Look at that. We're building the Jack Links. They walk out of this thing with Travis Hunter and Shudder. We're building the Jack Links ad right now. Don't stop it right now. Let them know that the ad is still going. We're still giving them airtime on the show here. We're reuniting this duo.

They start off one and four and Dion's being rumored to the Browns. It's perfect. Stepanski is like, first you put Watson on me and now this. And I hate all of you. You won't let me leave. Here's another coach of the year. Yeah, take your coach of the year and shut up. Shut up.

You're too good to fire. I don't even know what the all right draft chart value. Let's see. Let's pull it up. Let's pull this bad boy up to get get from 24 to 33 that would cost about 200, about 200 draft points. What is 67? I mean 67 is 255 so that's pretty close actually for them to get the second round pick. How bad do you want Shador? Come get it.

Yeah, nah, it's a good point too. It's a good point too. There it is. I figured it was a future second. You think it's a future second? I think that's what I was thinking. I think it's, yeah, because they want cheap years this year. So they want to give up a pick this year, you know what I mean? I'm just talking about. Yeah, no, no, no I think so 33 and

next year's too. Does that do it? That might do it. I think I'll pass the points and you're paying the inflation. Yeah that definitely does it what am I saying? You probably have to give them something else. No I think you give them juice. Cuz then you go hey the Rams are calling. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So like if you get like set 179 as well then at least they could say they have five picks in this draft All right, I'm doing that. I don't care whatever. Yeah the point stands It's my mom. Yeah, okay. I can do whatever. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. Mm-hmm. All right, take a shooter. Oh Proud to cut Travis on our insured or Sanders incredible. All right

Nate you're up at the Texas 25. So that's the screen grab for this for YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely Got a pan bill right now. Actually the faces all of us looking at the draft chart Those are the frozen faces trying to do math just on the spot. Yeah, That's what we're trying to do. No flip six. They get conditional. Um, idea how often that happens to me where I just let the smallest draft details hang up like a monster trade, like a blockbuster trade. I know that's exactly how it works in the end. Just, just, let's just get it done. Um, so I'm going to go, God, cause you know,

spine of defense is something I always look at the Texans, but you know that they are gonna, the marching orders are offensive line. You know, another sneaky tight end team, by the way, you know, as a secondary pass catcher and everything. But I think the timeline for this actually makes a lot more sense than maybe I first thought about.

That's Josh Simmons going to the Houston Texans. Yes, they brought on Cam Robinson and his terrible pressure rates allowed. But that at least lets them survive Simmons's rehab. And again, same line I think that I just said with the Steelers. You're building that timeline for the first half of season. Hey, you good to go?

And then you can figure out your best five as you get them out there and figure out the experience. Not really interesting offensive line of like a lot of guys playing spots. They, you know, like Titus Howard, like all, you know, as a tackle. Now they're moving them to guard like they did last year. Ju Shrugs, I thought was a center only coming out Penn State. Now he's a guard. You know, it's kind of funny.

I'm like, but whatever. Let's get these. Let's get talent out there. And I think Simmons is very talented. You know, we talked about my dad's I'm like, but whatever, let's get these, let's get talent out there. And I think Simmons is very talented. You know, we talked about my dad's rankings. Simmons was his number two guy. If you don't include, just off tape, not including the injury and the player profile of everything. So, but yeah, I'm high on Simmons as well.

This is where I think I have him on my big board. I think I have him at 18. So, or same as you, Trevor. So let's take him here, 25, Texans. Yeah, it's a very common pick now, given all the changes that have happened to the Houston Texans offensive lines. A very common pick to see Simmons get there.

Connor, Rams 26. Does this continue the trend of the easiest picks ever? No, if Jaylen Walker made it, that would have been. That would have been very, that would have been, yeah. That would have been my, like, just on a platter. And then my galaxy brain here is like do I take? Nicky man worry and play my linebacker in this defense and just don't care not gonna do that So I'm gonna make a pretty boring selection here and go corner with his aria Thomas and get someone that's just played a

Shit ton of man coverage. He's got good length I think he's got enough speed. He's obviously a true outside corner. Very, very disruptive at the catch point. I want the Rams to get a young, big man cover corner in this spot and the board didn't really break perfect for them. The tight ends are gone.

Walker and Campbell are gone. You could go with one of the next tier of tackle for the future, but I'd rather, and Rebels gone who I would have loved in this spot, but I like Thomas a lot. I think he's just a really impressive man cover corner. What Howie Roseman is to Georgia Bulldog defenders, less need as the Florida State defenders.

That's right. Yeah. Vers and Fisk package last year. It's true. Bill Ollis Seminoles, hey fist package last year. It's true. Bill all our Seminoles. Hey, could be worse. It's your Ramsey there for a minute to Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. They did. They'll take Josh farmer somewhere later in this draft for Yeah, that's the Rams moneyball. Yeah, we draft for

everybody. Hears have to be teammates. They have to have a boost effect. And if they're apart from each other, it doesn't work. But that's their money ball. What are the Morris twins? In the NBA, what's their name? Mark Keith and Marcus, I think. So when I used to play NBA 2K with my friend, and we used to like fantasy draft teams,

if any of us drafted one of the Morris twins, you had to draft the other one because you'd get a, you know, they'd play better if they were on the same team. We like convinced ourselves of that. You were like, oh no, you bumped the overall up five for both of those guys because you know, they're brothers so they'll feel comfortable. They're gonna be confident.

We got the chemistry. So that's how it works. Yeah, exactly. I think they actually legit had their draft stock hurt because of that Like they thought teams were worried about them not playing together I actually think that's like a legitimate thing about their like player or career arcs was like people were worried about them not playing together Didn't um, they got the same tattoo man, you know, wait, do they really that's the other

Conspiracy theory is that they play for each other? That's the other conspiracy theory is that they play for each other The NFL might the NBA might have been right on that one and they're on something tattoos. Yeah, they might have been onto something I didn't know they had the same tattoos All right, when do you think is possible twin? Baltimore Ravens Chuck you're up Ravens. I haven't This was an easy one for me. I went Tyler Booker, guard from Alabama. I mean, just you take an offense that loves to just lean on people and run those gap plays and get big behind, you know, they're off of the vine and Patrick Card and let Derek Henry, you know, trample defenses.

I think they still need some help at guard. Even though they had that monster rushing season last year, they're still a spot of the offense that could use some investment. I think this is just a really clean fit for player talent versus what they'll be asked to do versus, you know, the players that they'll get to play with. Because even if you have pass protection concerns about Tyler do versus, you know, the players that they'll get to play with. Cause even if you have a pass protection concerns about Tyler Booker, maybe some of the faster deep in the flatman he'll play against.

I mean, you got Lamar Jackson back there who just did a tremendous job dodging sacks all year basically. So I think it's a pretty clean fit. It's what they need. It's what he needs. It's what Derek Henry needs. So let's get it going. There aren't a lot of teams where I would love Tyler Booker in the first round

This is one that I would at least understand right because he is like you just said jug like the exact scheme fit that The Ravens would want so I understand that part of it lions up at number 28. I'm trying to find somebody to not convince me to pick Donovan as a rock you here. Because I think that he'd be phenomenal for them on the opposite side of Aidan Hutchinson. I think who else?

Man, I even think of Golden with the Texans. I was just so happy Simmons was there. I was sprinting to the podium. Right. I was like, oh, yeah, that is what happens in mock drafts. You get sort of like in a groove and you go like, oh, yeah, this player for this. And then you look and you go, oh, no, this player. Yeah. I didn't even think about the receivers.

I was like, oh, Simmons, sweet dog. I know. I'm not. That's why this exercise useful because you can see how easy it is for someone to just fall out the first round. You know? Yes. Well, that was like someone's life because I was talking, I'm with I'm with you, Trevor. I have McMillan really high.

I think I have three on my big board. And I was like, oh, he's easily a top 10 player to somebody. And some some one of our friends text me was just like, well, who does he go to in the top 10? And I was like, I kind of was just like, Yeah, okay. That's the point. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's a I think there's a couple of spots like New England's obviously one of them. But is New England gonna take him over? Right? A blue chip him over a blue chip guy, quote unquote blue chip guy,

at least if you think that there are some in this class, like the top guys who are gonna still be on the board. Jets are one of them, but the Jets will have great options in the trenches. Carolina, but Carolina basically has to go defense. Maybe the Saints, depending on what they think of Chris Olave long-term. You know, with the concussion issues and obviously where she's

coming off of the knee injury as well. But then Saints. But then obviously you have to think about Saints. So yeah. All right. I didn't, I didn't find anybody here that I could convince myself is a better pick than Donovan as a rock who I think he's just, I use a phenomenal football player.

He just I love how he approaches the game. He's so smart about pass rushing already. He understands the why of what works. It just in the game of football, whether that's been at the college level, which he's been very productive, or at the NFL, which I think he's going to continue to be productive. I think he's up to the challenge. He's not a freak athletically. He's not the biggest dude in the world. But I think he's going to continue to be productive. I think he's up to the challenge. He's not a freak. Athletically, he's not the biggest dude in the world, but I think he's big enough.

I think he's athletic enough to be plenty productive, especially on a defensive line that has, you know, DJ Reader and Ali McNeil and Aiden Hutchinson already on it. So I'll go as a rock who here for the Detroit Lions at number 28. No call. Yeah. Nate, it just seems like a lion because he plays hard. Yeah. Yeah.

Fun thing. Nate, 29. Commanders. Oh, yeah. This is, I was thinking this was pretty hard and I was scouring over here. I'm looking at my big board. I'm kind of just going up and down. Frickin' Amarion Hampton.

What are we doing? There you go. Just running up there. Yeah. Let's juice that offense to the max, even though I think they could go edge here or safety. I was looking at a man of worry as possible as a possibility for them from South Carolina. But didn't you know, a defense tackle like Kenneth Grant, I was also looking at.

But then it's also like, all right, they have a little too much too many resources spent there. They just signed Kinlaw to a contract. They got Johnny Newton in the wings, some of his foot stuff they got figured out, and they got Payne. So let's go with the, let's juice up the offense. Let's just go.

So I'm going with Hampton. He sneaks into the first round. I think there's a non-zero chance that he goes in the first round. I think I'm not the only one that thinks that, but yeah, that's what I'm going with. Fun offense. And this offense always thrives with a hammer.

And I'm not saying Hampton is an overall bruiser. I think my pro comparison for him is Joe Mixon. But I think that kind of spread it out offense. You run zone stuff. He can work in between the tackles as they run so much zone stuff. I think he could thrive in that type of offense mm-hmm all right ham to the commanders 29 Connor those are 30 yeah kind of a nice array of

interior d-line options I like here between my damn yeah this is easy for you Canada I'm gonna take Kenneth Grant but I got a crank up the difficulty for I know I'm sleep walking in this mock draft it's great it's like every pay I'm going to take Kenneth Grant, but I got to crank up the difficulty for I know. I'm sleepwalking in this mock draft. It's great. It's like every day. I'm like, oh, yeah, this that one's on on a platter. I do like Tyler Williams a lot, especially in this defense, that they need that to gapping run stuffing like big beefy player. But with Grant, you there, it feels like there's upside

as a pass rusher there that Ty Leake doesn't necessarily have because Grant's just got quicker feet. There's reps with him where you're like, how does a man that size do that? We talk about the Ohio State game a lot that he kind of took over side by side with Mason Graham. Yeah, it's absurd.

I guess the grades agree, 89.9. The tape was insane. So yeah, for the bills to get granite 30 it's just it's and you know, Ogden Jobi is a totally different player But with him being suspended the six games like they're gonna need another body up front and grant grant could play right away Yeah, you just thought he's a stud. Yeah, this is this is really good value And we talked about this guys like people are gonna fall just happens in every draft and yeah It's a numbers especially especially as you even started at the top of the show guys talking about but it's like this draft from what? 15 to 45 is a lot of guys same tier

So it's gonna be like guys ranges are crazy like it's like oh that guy goes a first rounder And he could easily go 45. Yeah I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's his tier. Totally get it. But I'm glad he brought up Tyleek as well, because like Grant Tyleek are fun players to like compare. Yeah. Based on like what their strengths are, literal strengths and everything and what grants upside could be possibly to. So hey, Grant, I think Grant gives you more potential as a pastor. So I agree taking him over Tyleek. But like, again, for what the bills would maybe want out of the player, Connor,

I'm totally with you. That like tightly could also be thrilled with either one. Yeah. If the bills walk away with one of those two guys on draft night, like giant win and set up so nicely for them. It is like it could unfold like unfold just like this. All right, Chuck. Chiefs 31.

This one's tough, but I think I'm just gonna stick with my big board and take the player who's by far the best player still available, Michael Williams here. And I actually, I don't really hate the fit here either. Cause even when you just think about some of the defensive ends that the Chiefs have brought in over the past few years, Carl Optus is a big dude,

Charles Ameniou is a big dude. I think Michael Williams will kind of fit within that same physical profile that they've kind of lend themselves to in the draft and in free agency at times. So, you know, not the, maybe not the sexiest pass rusher out there, but I think he just works well in the phone booth

and he's just gonna wear teams down. And I think that that kind of plays well next to Chris Jones. Because Chris Jones can be a pocket pusher. He can also win with speed. And I think having someone like Michael, who can collapse and play the run tough. It just like a nice little complimentary piece

to what they already have going on. I have him at 11th on my big board. So to get him at 31, I think that's pretty good value. I just think he's kind of like a, and I also like this fit, he just comes to me like a classic four, three defensive end, which is what the Chiefs like to run with Spagg, like some run. I think it's a pretty clean fit for him Yeah, that's I love that. I mean we usually have him going earlier

So I haven't thought about love this range for him when I see Mike L in the top 10 I'm like a god. There's just a lot of risk there, but when you get outside the top 25 It's like okay. This is like freakish guys like this. This is when you draft and develop someone in the spot. Yeah, his run ability. I mean, him and Carl off this could be a lot of fun. Would you like to mention it, Chuck? Do the synergy with Jones could be cool

because Mike L can play inside at times on snaps to write. Right. This is a fun pairing. I just haven't had it happen on any of our box. So I haven't even thought about it. Yeah. I, you know, Mike, he'll such a really good football player. And especially when it comes to defending the run. I wonder, I wonder why he didn't play more as like a stand up outside linebacker type, because we've said this on the show before last game of the 2023 season, that bowl game against Florida State, they played him in like a stand up

outside linebacker like three four outside linebacker edge roll. And he had his best day as a pass rusher. And then we kind of like went into the offseason I think it was Kirby smart who was like, Yeah, that's his more natural position. That's where we're going to play him more. And then they really didn't even with the injury, they sort of just kept him at that four i five technique defensive end type of alignment. And Scott, so many rants about this.

And I like that's the thing is like, I don't know why they did that. It did they do that? Because they didn't have somebody else who could defend the run as well as he could. Did they do it because in summer practices, they tried to use him as an outside linebacker and he wasn't as good of a pass rusher as they wanted him to be. I don't really know. So that's he is he's kind of an enigma to me because it's hard to get away from like what the tape is from him. But there are also moments where I watch him and like, the hands move so fast and strong and violent that I'm like, okay, there's clearly pass rush potential here for you. Why didn't Georgia put you in more opportunities to show it? I don't know.

I don't really know. I think it's kind of like they have to get like, they get their best four or five out there because they had another dude who just transferred from Missouri, Damon Wilson, who's projected who was projected to be like, you know, maybe a potential like top 50 pick in the future. So you got him, Jalen Walker, CJ Allen, who's gonna be like a top 50 pick at middle linebacker. You kind of run out of spots and then, you know, the interior play was not good this year for Georgia,

I don't think. Like someone like Nazir Stackhouse had a chance to make a lot of money and did not. So, you know, I think Michael's better on the edge, but I kind of think the four I five stuff is just, well, we got to get our best five on the field no matter how we can cut it. And this is how we're going to do it.

Yeah, that makes sense. That's what I keep going back to is like, was he just one of their best guys out there that they had to play in one of those spots to actually defend the run the way they wanted to? So maybe it was. I'm going to pick one of two Ole Miss players here for the Eagles at 32. I'm either taking Trey Amos to play on the outside and keep Cooper Dejean in the nickel or I'm drafting

Walter Nolan simply for the value to use as a three-man rotation with him and Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter new Milton Williams and Walter Nolan essentially step right down yes yes which I think is like athletically potential wise decent they both go to the senior bowl Amos did they both did yeah, they both did right? Okay, so yeah, we narrowed it there. I Think I'm gonna go yeah, no one feels like just so I think he's just too damn do it my guy Moro Jomo, but You know, I don't mind him. I don't mind him but no no, but this just keep the keep the factory going Yeah, right. I don't mind him, but no, no, but this is just keep the keep the factory going. Yeah, right I think I

As much as I'm not a hundred percent trying to emulate what Howie Roseman would do Howie Roseman is a smart guy. So I'm going Walter Nolan's it's too good of value here with with him at 32 audio only listeners I Love you. I'm not gonna read all these names out Again, like we have said before maybe that'll push you to subscribe to the podcast and actually get over on YouTube Listeners, I love you. I'm not gonna read all of these names out. Again, like we have said before, maybe that'll push you to subscribe to the podcast and actually get over on YouTube and do that.

Fellas, this is so much fun. I really enjoyed this. This is a great time. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it. 90 minutes, like all time efficiency. Oh, incredible efficiency. Just got right to it. Just got right to it.

You love to see that that anybody who is not following Uh what chuck and nate are doing over at football 301, please do so Obviously as you heard from this episode They've got tons of insight and their own analysis on the draft and the nfl and how they see these teams It's fantastic stuff. It's one of my favorite podcasts. These dudes are absolutely great You can go follow them on social media as well nate. I know that you're on twitter I don't know if you're on blue sky chuck Chuck, I know you're not on Twitter, really. You're on Blue Sky. So wherever you are for those two types of platforms, you can follow these guys one way or the other. So make sure that you guys are doing that. But appreciate you joining us, fellas. They wrapped up.

That was fun. That was a blast. That was a blast. We would love to hear what you guys think as well. Let us know in the comments section. Fire off there. That's the best way to get in on it. youtube.com backslash NFL Stock Exchange. UPS tells me that we should have new visuals

on merch for the show in the next episode that we have later in the week. So if we don't, it's not my fault. It's the tracking information's fault. Just letting everybody know. But that's something that you guys can look forward to. We will have another episode for you guys here on the program on Thursday. Like we said, we're trying to be a little bit more consistent Tuesdays at 10 p.m., Thursdays at 10 p.m. every single week. So we got one more episode for you. Follow these fellas. Follow Connor as well.

At ConnorJRogers on Instagram, Twitter, all that great stuff. I'm at Tampa Bay Tray. Twitter, Instagram, all that great stuff. I'm at Tampa Bay tray Twitter, Instagram, all the good stuff. But until next time, thank you guys so much for watching. Listen to the NFS Stock Exchange podcast. We'll see you next time. Thanks for watching!