NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Daniel Jeremiah 2026 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 Reaction

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think you're making the evil or wheel a little bit bigger every time. No, no, no, it's the same size as last week for sure. The evil or wheel has gotten bigger. I think it looks smaller. The evil wheel is almost 50% of the wheel. I think it's because we keep taking off teams. It's just all chance. So.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all chance. You just never know. Oh, what do you know? What do you know? I've never been gaslit more in my entire life than I am right here on this show. I think you're gaslighting me.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Welcome to the opening. Bell, the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Trevor Sicker Sicker-Sik and McConnell Rogers here with you guys once again for a beautiful Monday edition of the show. Congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks, by the way. Connor, it's funny, sometimes I forget that that's the actual goal. Like, we do so, you know what I'm saying? Like, we do so much emphasis on team building and everything.
Starting point is 00:01:02 It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, they won the Super Bowl. But what about these teams and how they could get better? And it's, it is sort of funny that I sometimes forget that that's the to McGregulation to Seattle. Honestly, from a team building perspective, man, what John Schneider has done. Oh, man. Over the last four years specifically,
Starting point is 00:01:20 but throughout his entire GM tenure since 2010, a Hall of Fame general manager, in my opinion. Just hats off to the Seattle Seahawks organization, truly one of the best. And now once again, Super Bowl champions. Totally with you. To win two Super Bowls with two different coaches, in really two different eras of the game.
Starting point is 00:01:43 And the way you look at this year's, I mean, the moves he made, it's not like at the time when they moved on from Gino and got Sam Darnold, anyone was like, well, that's it. They're one of the Super Bowl contenders. You're right. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:56 They have flexibility on the roster. They have cap space. They have their first round pick when a lot of teams traded their first round pick to go all in this year. By the way, I really enjoyed the open. It's just all up to chance. For sure.
Starting point is 00:02:09 for sure brother the chef had you in a pretzel and i liked his wizard of Oz effect i do too i actually think that that enhances what he does on the show i agree i don't i don't want even when i'm not on the show as much as he's got a face for camera and a personality for camera i think it's i think it's better for him to just kind of troll you from behind the curtain uh we've got some people in the chat already saying that i look freshly washed now that could either maybe that I look like I just showered or potentially they're saying that I'm freshly washed meaning no longer talented so I guess it will we'll have to see you look like you look like you just like got off the rink like when they interview hockey players after the game and they're
Starting point is 00:02:55 just hair soaking wet that's the look you have right the Olympic sir the the Olympic sur on we're getting ready for hockey you know so I'm I told you in the addicts like I'm growing the hair out right now so we just reached like the slick back portion of the hair length. Oh, dude. Yeah, it's going to get ugly. In between stuff. It's going to get horrendous over the next two months. But after that, it's going to be smooth sailing. It's going to, I mean, I just am, I'm immediately, once I grow my hair out to a certain point, I think that that just means I immediately become in every way, shape, and form Brad Pitt as Achilles from Troy. I thought you were going to say the Joker, but I like Brad Pitt as Achilles from Troy. The Joker is
Starting point is 00:03:38 probably a better representation of what will actually happen when I grow my hair out. Yes. How long we, what's the goal? Are we going shoulder length? I don't know. Back of the neck? Oh, you're going to ride this out and see what happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:51 How does Alyssa feel about the long hair? Hates it. Yeah, I go, I tap out every summer. It's sad. Yeah, you know what it's like. I usually, I've said this before, I get my final haircut about a week before the draft or whatever it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And then I typically do not get a haircut until I return to work at the end of July, early August. Sometimes I take it to September. It doesn't go well for me. There's a level of, you know, I don't want to say anger, but there's tension in the air. Resentment is the word that you're looking for. Like, oh, especially I'm not really working a lot that time of year and my wife still is. And she's like, oh, you're getting a haircut today? And I'm like, no, I don't think I am.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Every day. And then I tap out. I have a coward. I quit every year. I'm like, I got to get a haircut. I got to go back to work. I mean, if we're really going to be the bad boys of the draft and, you know, advocate for a lot of the position, then then we might need to both rock the long hair. I'm so down.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'll see. I'll see if I can survive, you know, this. And if I can on the other side, maybe I'll extend you the hand afterwards. By the way. Confidence needed. Yes. By the way, I do see odd estimate in the chat. Audestimate.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I don't know if you saw on Twitter. But I made red chimmy churry wings this past weekend. It looks good. And I just, I had to let you know they were fire, my friend. And if you have anything to say about it, you're wrong. I'm glad he's in the chat for that. The rivalry continues. The rivalry absolutely continues.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Also, shout out. I grew up. Also, shout out everybody who's referencing, I think you should leave, saying, wait, is it sling? or is it pushed back? I would say right now it's pushed back. It's not slicked back. But shout out to Tim Robinson and I think you should leave.
Starting point is 00:05:47 One of the dumbest shows I've ever seen in my life. By far. That I have laughed unbelievably hard at so many times. So many times. All right. Today, mock draft format, but it's not our own. Today we're looking elsewhere outside the castle walls of the NFL. NFL Stock Exchange podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And we're going to take a look at one of our favorites in the NFL draft space, truly a titan of the draft industry. Daniel Jeremiah does an unbelievable job covering the draft as well as he does, as indepthly as he does from a great perspective. I love his eye for scouting. He does so many great things for NFL Network, not just on editorial writing these mock drafts, but also you guys see him and hear him during the combine as well.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Him and Rich Eisen are the voices of the combine now going through all those drills and everything. So we love DJ. We want to take a look at his mock draft 1.0, which he put out, I think like a week and a half and ago, which actually lines up Connor pretty well to the last one that we did. We did one post-senior bowl, so things are going to be a little bit different. I believe that DJs was right before the senior ball. But what the chef has cooked up for us here on this show is we're going to take a look at his
Starting point is 00:06:55 mock draft adjacent to the one that we just did. So we'll be able to see which players are a little bit higher for us, a little bit higher for him. and we'll kind of go through all that. DJ always puts explanations and blurbs to his picks, but we want to make sure that you guys go over to NFL.com and that you support DJ and go read his work over there on NFL.com. So as you see on the board right now, this was the current NFLSC mock draft that we did right after the Senior Bowl was over.
Starting point is 00:07:27 See for Mennozzo at the top, you got David Bailey, R. Velrys, Rubin Bain, Jordan Tyson, still making it there at number five. Francis Maui Noah, Sony, Stiles, Carnell Tate, Caleb Banks. and then Caleb Downs. So Connor, I think the best way to do this is just to reveal what DJ had in his top 10. And then we can have a good conversation kind of bouncing around with some of these picks that really stand out to us. So we'll see it. Let's see it, Tyler.
Starting point is 00:07:51 This is Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft 1.0. And the chef has color coded this for convenience. Very important. Very important. Where obviously the green is an exact match and the orangey, yellow is more in the lines of like in range, but still some distance. And then obviously if you see red at some point, there's a bigger gap. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yes. So what stands out to you here? Where do you want to start? I think number one, how high the two offensive linemen go. Okay. Stands out to me. Yeah. So I released the mock draft today, the day after Super Bowl, if you're listening to this late for NBC.
Starting point is 00:08:34 and I did have Mowingoa go to the Giants. I had Spencer Fano wait a little longer. But obviously, like, having them at 3 and 4 means DJ, the league, or, and he often says mock drafts are with his ears and, you know, his rankings are where his eyes. With his eyes. Yeah, with his eyes. Which I love that saying.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I do too. So these are usually predictive. I mean, Trevor, that would mean the league. is significantly higher on the top of this offensive line class than we've kind of been around. I know me and you really liked Fanow over summer, and it's not that we significantly cooled on him this year. But if he was the third overall pick in the draft,
Starting point is 00:09:18 I'd be like, oh, wow, I'd have a few players over him in a spot where I think you're trying to get the most high-end blue-chip talent possible. Yeah. And Arizona is a roster where they can make that argument at a lot of different positions. Yeah, I mean, offensive line's been such an interesting, topic throughout the entire, I'll say, like early portion of the draft because when we did summer scouting, it's like, okay, there's some guys that we really like. You know, like Fano was coming
Starting point is 00:09:44 off of an elite PFF graded year where he was incredible as a run blocker. Like Maui Noah had started for the last two years for Miami and he was rock solid at that point. He got even better this upcoming year. But like Caleb Lomu has, as they will say, like all the tools, man. It just feels like he's built like an NFL offensive tackle. So there was a lot of. a lot to get excited about in the summer for the potential of a lot of these guys. And then you kind of watch them in the beginning, middle, towards the end of the college of all season, you go, all right, these guys are good, but are they like top five good? You know, how many of them are actually tackles?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Are they guards? So you start sort of bringing them down the mock drafts a little bit more. But now that we're seeing a lot of people in the industry sort of swing more towards draft season, yeah, you get a lot of these teams like Arizona at three, you know, Cleveland at six. Giants at five, right? You get a lot of these teams where you go, yeah, they'd love to upgrade offensive line. And I feel like I have seen more mock drafts be okay with maybe quote unquote overdrafting. I don't even know if I love calling it that, but like overdrafting maybe the
Starting point is 00:10:56 round grade that you have on a player versus where you might take him in the top 10. It just seems like we're seeing a lot of mock drafts that are very okay doing that. And DJs was another one where obviously we have these two top guys going, going three and four here. Right. And because of that, you probably notice right away, no wide receivers in the top 10, which is probably pretty jarring to the average NFL draft fan. I think you and I often have at least two of them in the top 10 or one of them in the top
Starting point is 00:11:27 10 because naturally this isn't a high-end draft. It's not a great draft. We've been very honest about that. It's not loaded with just premium talent across all the first round. And I think you and I like those guys a lot with full transparency here. And maybe the league feels like they can wait at wide receiver and kind of capitalize on the day two class, which a lot of teams often like to do. but man, if the draft started like this and you had Carnell Tate, Jordan Tyson,
Starting point is 00:12:00 and Mackay Lemon all there starting at Pick 11, I think I'd be a little surprised about that personally. I would be somewhat surprised, but I wouldn't be totally... Yeah, I wouldn't be totally surprised. I mean, I was just doing... I feel like I'm on a billion shows. I can't remember which show I was on when I was talking about this, but I was talking about some ideal fits.
Starting point is 00:12:24 for certain teams. And like the Steelers at 21, the example that I gave was, oh, I think that Carnell Tate would be perfect for them. And whatever show was, oh, it was a Leach Report show that I was doing. And a lot of people in the chat were like, well, there's no chance to Carnell Tate makes to 21. And I said on the show, I don't think Carnell Tate makes to 21, but could Carnell tape make it to 15 or 16 or 17 and maybe you have an opportunity to trade up just a little bit to go get this guy yeah i actually do think that's possible um to give uh some full context to sort of how dj at least sees this draft early on because we're talking about no wide receivers here in the top 10 he had 11 wide receivers in his initial top 50 that he released uh about two weeks ago as well
Starting point is 00:13:13 so he likes this wide receiver class and mckeye lemon i believe was his wide receivers He had him at number seven overall, which again, you guys can see his initial big board over at NFL network and NFL.com. So I think he likes the wide receiver class probably just as much as the rest of us do. But again, it's very interesting, given the perspective that you pointed out, he's doing this with his ears a little bit. And that's not to say that wide receivers maybe won't be in his top 10 in the future. but for there to be no wide receivers in the top 10, it's at least like you mentioned, a talking point worth pointing out here with this class.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Well, every team finds themselves, which is kind of ironic to say this after that Super Bowl, but teams in the draft, plenty of them find themselves chasing offense. And this is my opinion, and I wouldn't be shocked if you share it as many shows as we've done together, and this is going back to summer,
Starting point is 00:14:10 if you're comfortable with Jordan Tyson's medicals, and I'm pretty optimistic about them at the Combine. How is he not a top 10 player taken in this draft just based off a tape for a league that chases offense? He is so, so good that you, you know, you'd laugh and this does happen a lot at receiver. Like look where Justin Jefferson went. Look where Jackson Smith and Jigba went. But man, I don't know. And a draft that's not that loaded, especially on the offensive playmaking side of the ball,
Starting point is 00:14:42 I think he's the guy that if everything goes well in indie, it's just hard to not have him in the top 10 of mock drafts. It really is. Yeah, a lot of people in the chat are agreeing. They're saying, hey, you know, if the medicals check out with Tyson, and I agree, man, there are moments. Now, I don't think he's quite the athlete that this player is, but like there are times when I'm watching him
Starting point is 00:15:01 and his playmaking mentality when I go, that's a little O'Dell right there. Now, again, he's not the total athlete that O'Dell is, but just the ability that just absolutely shut. somebody one on one and go up and get it over the middle and these incredible catches where he just looks like he's floating in the air. I mean, such a great athlete. And if those medicals check out, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Mansoor Delane and number five here to the New York Giants, which I think the Giants is interesting because they've got Paulson and Devo. They have Drew Phillips. Drew Phillips has been their nickel. Paulson Debo is on the outside. It's been a struggle for Deonté Banks. So it's no secret that they'd probably like to upgrade that other outside cornerback spot if possible.
Starting point is 00:15:42 But even outside of the Giants fit specifically, Mansour Delane here in the top five, I think that that train is also picking up some steam as I, as I see more and more people mock Delane into the top 10 as that cornerback won in this draft. Yeah, I don't love this. And I think it's not about the player because I think Delane's tape at LSU this year was tremendous after what I thought was a down year, the previous year. And then he transferred to LSU. and he was just amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's the fact that if I'm Joe Shane, it's got to be all about making things right around Jackson Dart. You have a pass rush. We know you have that up front. You've spent a lot of money on the secondary, and yet you missed on Tay Banks, but can you find a number two corner on day two of this draft? Can you go do that?
Starting point is 00:16:37 Like, get Orrin free agency. It just feels like to me, I would do everything I can to reinforce the offensive line. Or if you're not going to re-sign Wondale Robinson, then I have no problem, as you see in our mock draft, taking Jordan Tyson at 5. And name your flavor. Do you like Carnell Tate a little better?
Starting point is 00:16:56 You're going to have Malik neighbors coming back from injury. Hopefully they could find a deal with Wondale, although we don't know. But I don't know. It's just to me, I like something I realized even more when I was writing my mock draft this weekend, I kind of like tier two of this corner class. Like Keith Abney, I would consider Colton Hood in that tier as well.
Starting point is 00:17:19 There's a lot of different corners in tier two after McCoy and Delane. I just don't know if I would take one at five if I was the Giants. I admittedly don't love that pick. As much as I like the player. Yeah. And look, I think I agree with you. I would go a couple of different directions. Like I would, because at this point in his draft, like I'd pick Caleb Nouns here over Mansour Delane.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I would take an offensive lineman. I'd take a wide receiver. We very clearly agree. We like Mansour Delane the prospect. The fit at five, I question a little bit, but shouting this out was more so like, okay, I guess we really do need to start thinking about Mansour Delane is maybe not getting out of the top 10 when the end of April rolls. Who are the stars of the Super Bowl? Christian Gonzalez and Kevin Witherspoon.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yes. And beyond those two, but man, like every time you looked up at the biggest plays in the game on defense, it was from those two guys. Yep, I agree. I agree. I want to talk about Sonny Stiles in a second. Before we get to that, though, I see everybody in the chat, by the way, sending off some super chats like we do on every single show, just if you're new around
Starting point is 00:18:29 here. We will save the super chats for the end. We'll do an after the episode part of the live show, which if you don't catch it live, you can see it every Friday. We post all of those super chats. that we answer. So just making sure that everybody knows we will get to the super chats, but it'll be in the after the episode portion of the show. And then I think a lot of new people are going to be watching this show because of honestly the poll that DJ's name probably has around
Starting point is 00:18:50 the industry. And this is your first NFLSE show and you're not subscribed to the channel. We would love for you to be. Hopefully you've enjoyed the first 10 minutes of this episode so far. But we have a lot of fun here on this show talking NFL draft prospects, doing our own rankings, our own mock drafts. We got you covered all the way to the end of April. So we would love for to subscribe and be a part of the addicts on this NFL draft journey. I am, obviously we're lockstep right here with Sony Styles. We had Sony Styles going to the Washington Commanders in Armaq. DJ has him going at number seven to Washington as well.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And especially since we have done our full linebacker evals, I only feel better about Sunny Styles being a top eight pick in this class. And obviously Washington needs them a lot. with Bobby Wagner getting up there at age. Yeah, this is one that I just don't really want to get away from making this pick. When you look at the commander's defense, you look at the speed, he plays with, I mean, there's a world sunny styles ends up being a top three player from this draft. It's just the fact that he's a true offball linebacker and salary slot picking early in the draft.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like, man, this would be such a win for the commanders. The commanders are in a great spot in this draft. They're picking seventh. They have a superstar quarterback. They need an impact defender. and it feels like one of David Bailey, Sunny Stiles, or Caleb Downs will be there for them. And it feels like any of those guys significantly upgrade their problems on the defensive side of the ball. Jeremiah, I love.
Starting point is 00:20:18 We've talked about him with the Saints before. Ruben Bain, if he gets to nine for the Chiefs, I think DJ talks about this in the blurb of his mock. I understand that Spagnolo normally goes for guys who have a little bit more length, but just the player that Ruben Bain is, if he gets to nine, if Ruben Bain's on the board at nine and Jeremiah loves there, Ruben Bain's a chief. I would agree. Right? Right.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah. I think that if Ruben Bain gets there, the chiefs aren't going to pass up a talent like him. He really shouldn't get there, but you're right. I agree with you. The last thing, and I'll shout out, do you see he gave the Browns Day. David Bailey.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah, so another one. It's one of my favorite players in the entire draft. David Bailey on one side, Miles Garrett on the other. But man, like the Browns have so many problems on offense. This just, I get making a strength of strength, but no. I don't think this happens. I do not think this happens. Todd Munkin has got to get some bodies on his offense.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I think so, too. receiver and off. Now, we opened this up saying this is, this is a little surprising to see Fanon, Maui and Goa go three and four back to back. I think either of those guys would be in play for the Browns. I've put Carnell Tate there a lot because they need number one wide receiver. It's just, man, it's yeah, that's, you know, and I will say something interesting happened over the last week after you and I made this mock draft. Because when, when we made the Bailey pick at two, which I'm assuming was me. The, and this doesn't mean everything, but it could mean something.
Starting point is 00:22:07 The Jets brought back Carl Dunbar as their defensive line coach. He's coached there before, but just a while ago, well traveled around the league, basically a legendary defensive line coach. He's been coaching on the Steelers, the Steelers defensive line for the last seven or eight years. He's coached a three, four base as long as I can remember. And this guy's been in the league forever. and I wonder if things are starting to align where Glenn is going to shift to more of a three four look
Starting point is 00:22:37 and that would significantly enhance the chances of Bailey being the pick to me at two. Just to be that stand-up outside guy. If you're playing a four-man front, I think it's more likely... But McDonald's got to be that too, right? Sure. Like Germain will play four-eye.
Starting point is 00:22:56 They'll probably draft. I don't, I don't, Jermaine is very hard to figure out his future with the Jets. Oh, okay. I know teams called at the deadline. I don't know. He didn't have a good year to be fair coming off the Achilles, so that's expected. It's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:12 But that was, it was nice to get maybe a breadcrumb there for now mocking for the Jets. It's far from a lock, but at least David Bailey is in a conversation legitimately. That's good. No, that's good context. Joseph in the chat, doesn't Miles Garrett won't out of Cleveland? Yes. I mean, I just, you know. He has for the last four years.
Starting point is 00:23:31 But then they paid him a lot of money for him to not want out of Cleveland. Or actually, what the Browns did is they paid Miles Garrett a lot of money to not publicly say that he wants out of Cleveland. That's right. And then he got the sack record. And then he got the sack record. So what a player. Let's move on. Let's move on to the, I think it's the next 10. Where do we go in 11 through 20?
Starting point is 00:23:55 If I know our show well. Hey, you want to see something? Why, I got you here? Sure. You see what's back, dude? Whoa! What? Yeah, canned Gatorade is so back, and I'm telling you, it's better than drinking it out of plastic.
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's lemon lime, right? Oh, you betcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. Hold on. Super Bowl Champions flavor. Yeah, of course. Real quick, lemon lime, goat, Gatorade flavor? Undisputed.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Thank you. Thank you. I think it's in a league of its own. I think it's in a league of its own. I think so, too. I will settle. in a pinch with the blue
Starting point is 00:24:32 but which one dark blue or light blue? No the light. Yeah, Glacier Freeze is Glacier Freeze. There we go. You bailed me out. I forgot the name. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Cool blue is good. But glacier free, I think the power ranking of common Gatorade flavors, right? Don't give me the, don't give me the New Age fusion flavors. No, no, no. We haven't tried that.
Starting point is 00:24:57 It's like the second generation of Pokemon. That's right. Just one 50s as far as it goes. I can't go beyond. Did you see, so I got really excited when I saw a TikTok video start and it was Leonard Williams. And it was a Super Bowl media week, obviously. And they were like, all right, we've heard you're a big Pokemon guy. Give us your six ideal Pokemon for taking down the Elite 4.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So they said the Elite 4. So I said to myself, okay, he's about to give us. some OG 150 knowledge. The first three Pokemon he names, I've never heard or seen in my life. Oh, no. Why? Because he's a little,
Starting point is 00:25:41 yeah, he's a couple years younger than us. Not much, but that difference means he was the second generation. It's tough. We were the, we were at the birth of the OG generation. The greatest generation, they call it. They didn't, they just didn't, oh, they didn't need to
Starting point is 00:25:59 keep going because it made them a lot of money and a lot more games and cards. But in my eyes, they didn't need to keep going. They didn't need to keep going. Yeah, that's incredible, by the way, the Gatorade. Are they just, hold on, are they just selling that to the public? Or is that from your industry sources? Do you get that from, you came back from Super Bowl week. Now all of a sudden you got Gatorade and a kid.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Now I'm a partner with everybody. I was going to say, there's some, I'm trying to, I'm connecting to some dots here. I'm not an official partner of Gatorade, but I'm working on something. Yeah, definitely working on some things. By the way, I saw in the chat, someone was laughing saying cans are lined with plastic. I just think it tastes better in the cold can. I'm not protecting my long term here as I'm drinking a 30 grams of sugar sports drink. Guys, he's talking about nostalgia.
Starting point is 00:26:47 We don't have to get scientific about this. I mean, God, can people just have fun for one day? We're just trying to have a good time. Please enjoy your life. We were born in the 1990s. Indies. Yep. Oh, man. Yeah, they picked the right Gatorade flavor, by the way. All right, anyway. 11 for us was Tremont McCoy, and we had Mansour to lane right after that, so we had the lane at number 12.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I had picked Ty Simpson. We were doing this. I took Ty Simpson for the Rams at number 13. Matthew Stafford had since confirmed in his MVP speech that he is coming back for another year. So that makes things very interesting. I don't think that that means they're going to take a quarterback at 13. since, you know, kind of thinking about it a little bit more, but I still wonder if it might be on the table if the only quarterback off the board is Mendoza by the time they come back on the clock at number 29. We had Spencer Fano go to the rambon to the ravens,
Starting point is 00:27:42 catch shout to the bucks, Mikai Lemon to the Jets, Caden Proctor, to the Lions, Jeremiah Love, to the Vikings, Peter Woods, to the Panthers, and then T.J. Parker to the Dallas Cowboys. What did DJ have in his 11 through 20? So I know that DJ likes Colton Hood
Starting point is 00:27:59 a lot. I think you are higher on Colton Hood than I am. I like Colton Hood. I think that he is sort of an early day two corner, like a second round corner type of player. Back and around one at the earliest. Yep. 12 is, 12 is high.
Starting point is 00:28:13 12 is the highest that I've seen Colton Hood in any mock draft. Actually. Very, very high. I think with Hood, ironically like McCoy, he's physical, he's tough, he stays in phase. I think the long speed is, average, which a lot of... He plays a lot of off coverage of Tennessee, I felt like.
Starting point is 00:28:34 He did, but I think that when you really watch him have to carry vertical, like, we're just so used to, it feels like corners that going to the top 15 can really, really run. So it'll be interesting to see how he times. And like you said, we like him, but clearly, if you're taking him at 12, you absolutely love him. Mackay Lemon to the Jets at 13 from DJ. Rams. Or what did I say?
Starting point is 00:29:02 Jets. We had him go to the Jets 16. DJ had him go in front of the Jets pick to the Rams. But interestingly enough, he still had the Jets getting one of the big three receivers with Carnell Tate at 16, which I have never anticipated. That Carnal Tate would be available at 16? Yeah, I just have never had a mock draft where that scenario happened. And to be fair, to Dere's a chance. In the blurb, he addressed it.
Starting point is 00:29:28 He wasn't like, he said, you know, somebody's got to fall and. Yeah. And I think, same thing happened in ours. You can convince yourself that receiver is the position that falls. Because we talk about this on this show all the time. I don't want to say that Connor 100% believes this. I 100% believe that you have the ability to acquire a wide receiver one in the the NFL every other year.
Starting point is 00:29:57 That's what I think. Whether the trade market or whether you are drafting, I think that you have the ability more often than not. It's not in exact science. No, I don't you mean? It's to say you will have the ability to get good wide receivers, whether that is drafting one of them or acquiring one in the trade market. And so if the supply and demand part of the equation kind of,
Starting point is 00:30:24 kind of comes into evaluating the wide receiver position. Yeah, if you're on the fence at all whatsoever and you're thinking about some other players at other positions, you can convince yourself that we don't need a wide receiver right here. We might be able to get one in the second round. We might be able to get a guy that we were like in the third round. I just think that it's a worthwhile point making here with DJ saying, like, hey, somebody's got to fall.
Starting point is 00:30:47 There's only 15 guys that can go in the first 15 picks. Here's the 15 names I had. And Cardinal Tate just happened to me, not one of them. I think there's a world where that could happen. I like your point about supply, because if somebody was like, I don't just think about it, the inverse of it.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Or like what are the positions, positions that the supply is not often available, offensive tackle? You better draft your tackles, man. Yeah. It is really freaking hard to just say, I'm going to go out with all this cap space I got and get a franchise tackle
Starting point is 00:31:18 that's going to be here for a long time. I mean, you look at the Seattle, They're homegrown. I know Will Campbell had a really, really tough playoff, but like New England went in with, okay, we need to draft a tackle, guard, but they played him a tackle.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Morgan Moses, they went and signed and Morgan Moses was a solid veteran addition, but that's a hard position. That's a really hard position to just find the supply of out in the open every year. Edge pass rusher, you're going to pay, man. Like if you want them. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And they usually come with some risk or age. That's so I get I get what road you're going down with that take I really do and I and check out number 15 there man speaking to edge pass rusher easy I mean we just and I did it again in my mock draft today it's the easiest pick to make he's in every single mock he's worth the 15th pick yeah he's exactly what they need after Hassan Reddick was a dud last year I just you're right it's either one of two things for me trev either one they're one of the teams that finds a way to trade for max Crosby or Cassius Howell is squarely in play at 15. That's it. And the thing about Howell is the reason why you're going to see him a lot at that 15 spot, a little bit of kind of just what you talked about there. The arm length keeps him from getting drafted higher. The production keeps him from getting drafted lower. It's basically like just the middle of the draft. Right. And there is a team that happens to very desperately need a pass rusher in the in the middle of the draft there.
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Starting point is 00:34:40 I don't care. I've talked about that for, um, there's a couple of teams. Now, Messador doesn't make sense for every single team. if you're in a team that's not in a winning window, if you were a team that's truly rebuilding, right? You're trying to get your roster younger. You're probably not going to take them.
Starting point is 00:34:57 But if you are the Lions, if you're the Bears, right? I think about those are the first two teams that really pop into my head. Maybe the bills as well, potentially, if they feel like they need more juice at pass rusher. But like, if you are a team in a winning window, this is a ready made pass rusher.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I hate the term plug and play because it is just so rarely as much of a reality as we think it is, even with some really, really good players. Plug and play from college to the NFL. It does not exist as much as we think that it does. Or at least for as much as I think a lot of people use the phrase. Not that, like, I've used the phrase before. I'm not trying to go after anybody or anything. But the more I think about it, the more it's like, man,
Starting point is 00:35:45 there are just not a lot of players that actually embody that phrase. I actually think that a key Mestador does because he wins not just athletically, but he wins technically the ways that he needs to. So yeah, is he going to be exactly as good as he was in Miami right out of the gate for whatever team drafts him? Maybe not. It's going to take a little bit of time because the NFL game is still stronger. It's still faster. There's still a learning curve there.
Starting point is 00:36:07 But I could absolutely see a world where second half of his rookie season into the playoff push for one of these winning window teams, you got a pretty good player and a pretty impact player there to be able to get in the middle or the late part of the first round, maybe even the second round depending on his age. But yeah, I love that fit with him going to the Lions at 17. So one that we didn't do, but I've come around on in my own mock draft, was Oliva Venga, Yawane, the guard from Penn State to Baltimore. He's, you know, that's an interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Now, what does Baltimore's offense look like this year? Do they go through a little bit of a run scheme change, all those questions. But, you know, if you want, if you want a true guard put into that spot, he fits that bill where you'd be asking Spencer Fano to, he's played both tackle spots to kick inside. Now, ironically, in the same mock draft, Trevor, I put Spencer Fano, I believe, to the Chargers, where he would play guard. Wait, hold on, hold on. It is Fano, right? Fano, Fano. Yeah, because I think we got, I think we got, I think we got corrected on that. Right, we did.
Starting point is 00:37:19 We were saying Fano, it's Fano. Now it's in my head because somebody already gave us the slap on the wrist for it. So I just want to make sure that they're not, you know, punching us in the face. No, I'm already dead. Yep. Spencer Fano, which is absolutely how it's supposed to be said. But yeah, I mean, and that's the way that we've said it all along. And if there's any tape out there that suggests otherwise, it was obviously doctored in its AI.
Starting point is 00:37:43 It's not actually us. We've only ever said. We have to stand up for ourselves at some point. Yeah, come on. You'll see Guard or some version of offensive line to the Ravens at 14, 80% of the time, I think in mock drafts. Yeah. And he's any surprise. Emmanuel McNeill Warren, I thought I loved him.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Clearly, you don't. Clearly, I think he's a UDFA. I was like, wait until you hear about this safety that I think is awesome in the third round. He's in the top 20. It's February. DJ's out here saying, wow, he doesn't even think he's draftable. Crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:22 And he was a guy that ended up not doing the Senior Bowl, which you would think he's getting some big feedback. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't think he's going here, but he's a hell of a player. And it just goes to show you that he ain't, he ain't anybody's sleeper anymore. No, not anymore. No, Toledo's out here producing these DPs.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Oh, my, they are out here. obviously the position fit makes sense with the Vikings because they've got a pretty big safety need at least as it stands right now heading into the off season so I definitely get wanting to put an impact safety there we haven't done the full evals on safeties yet
Starting point is 00:38:59 that's coming I still like AJ Halsey man but it doesn't feel like he's getting any sort of first round buzz but maybe if we get through full evals for safety and I still love them I'll stand on the table able for him as a potential first rounder. But outside of that, pretty standard.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Keldrick Falk to the Cowboys is a pick. You'll see a ton of. Cowboys fans hate that one. They really do. And I go ahead. I don't know. I think it's just because Cowboys fans look at the lack of Pasters production.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And that's what they're really worried about. I think the idea with Keldrick Falk is you're not really, obviously you're not drafting Keldrick Fall to be, you know, David Bailey. Like, he's not that type of a player. Right. But I think the idea is you're drafting him to be what the Marcus Lawrence was for you. Exactly. Which was an elite run defender.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And now obviously we see him with the Seahawks. And yeah, he's still not the most prolific passer. But on that defensive line, man, it feels like anybody can eat. So I think the Cowboys might be in a situation where they're thinking, all right, well, if we get a player like that and a presence like that again, we feel pretty good about having him and Kenny Clefell. Clark and Quinn and Williams and Donovan Azaraku. And then you're kind of building a defensive line arsenal.
Starting point is 00:40:17 So I understand why Cowboys fans aren't as jazzed about this one. But certainly the way that the mock fell for DJ, again, you're not asking him to be David Bailey. You're asking him to try to be Demarcus Lawrence again. And if that's the goal, then I do understand it. He's 20 years old. He's gigantic human. and loaded up with traits. The tape is better than the numbers.
Starting point is 00:40:44 He's going to go in the first round, man. Like, it's just, there's upside there. And this type of player always goes in the first round. So, sports debate arena said nobody wants Keldrick Fogg. It's true. I tried to give him to the Patriots at like 31 last mock draft. People hated it.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And people yelled at me for it. We don't want this bum. It's like really gone too far. I think it has gone too far. I do you think Michael Williams was that much better than him? I don't. Whoa, no. I would have, I'm pretty sure I'd have Keldrick Falk ahead of Mike.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I would too. And Mike Lilliams just went 11th overall in a better draft. Okay. Yeah. So. And Niners fans do defend that one pretty heavily. They do. And I didn't love that pick, but neither of us did.
Starting point is 00:41:34 But the point being is look at the prospect profile. So we might have Keltrick Falk all. all of us might have them too late. Oh boy. Luigi in the chat said, Keldrick Falk at 33 is the steal of the draft. Keldrick Falk at 31's a reach. Is it not, though, feel that way?
Starting point is 00:41:53 If the Jets got Keldrick Falk at 33, everyone's like, you know, Aaron Glenn's really building something here. But if somebody takes him in the first round, oh, this guy can't rush the passer? It's so true, man. The perception is unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Anything else in this batch before we move on? No, let's go to the next, the next tier. There's going to be some fun surprises in here, I think. All right, before we do that one, we got an ad read. Hold on. Oh, God. Hold on, I'm finding it. What are you talking about?
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Starting point is 00:44:13 I think I heard that as well. Somebody in the chat said, Drake, Keldrick, Falk, May. God. Gone too far. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Oh, somebody said they skipped over Tyson.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah, really quick on Tyson. Tyson, he had, DJ had Tyson going to the Panthers at 19, which is a luxury pick. ish, but I mean, if Jordan Tyson is sitting there at 19 and you get to move on from Xavier Leggett to form a wide receiver room of T-Mac Jordan Tyson, Jalen Coker. Oh, that's nice. That's pretty sick. That's the good.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So do I think this happens? No, but the idea of it, don't hate it. I think DJ, not to speak for him, but it's all we can do on this. show. He's not here. I mean, what else am I going to do? Yeah, what's he going to do about it? I think it's easier to move Tyson up than go through the combine
Starting point is 00:45:18 and move him down and then it creates a hysteria of what did the medical say and, you know? Sure. So you kind of set the bar low here. Yeah. I think Tyson once again will have a good process. Yeah. Yeah, Brock in the chat, Tyson and Ted, insane. I think
Starting point is 00:45:34 that's a crazy duo. I mean, that's the whole reason why we've mocked him at five. Him and Malik neighbors. Right. Him and Malik neighbors and that offense with Jackson Darden, Cam Scadaboo, and, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:49 I'll tell you one more I like. Oh, yeah, go ahead. Him and Chris Alabe with Tyler Shuck. Mm. It's kind of sick. They're such good separators. And Kellan Moore has already already shown you what he could do.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Chuck is for real that, and obviously, DJ had Jeremiah love going there. That's exciting, too. The Saints are set up real. Like, they won a lot of games at the end of the year that pushed them back in the draft, and I'd rather take those wins,
Starting point is 00:46:19 build some optimism, and their pick slot is fine. Damn, J47 said Tyler Shunk. That's pretty good, actually. That is pretty good. I think we've got to give it to him. Yeah, and then Aloha said the Bucks will probably take Tyson, honestly, Treb.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I agree. Four wide. The whole game. Screw it. Four game. Four wide. Doesn't matter. Who's got four DBS that can keep up with Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Jordan Tyson, and Meccaabuka?
Starting point is 00:46:48 You tell me. Only Seattle. And they're two of them are free, three of them are free agents. Yeah, it's basically it. And the Bucks beat Seattle already this year. Oh, it's a nice little flex in your pocket. They'll forget about that one. Only team to score 38 against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:47:03 That's really crazy. That game was Banana Land. Guess where the game was? in Seattle. Yeah, it was like the last of Donald's demons. Yeah, that was the first of Baker Mayfields. Okay, moving on to 21 through 32 here. Oh, we did get Colton Hood in here.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I thought that we left him up, but we gave him the Seahawks because they need another good DB. But did you know, I found this out while writing mine? Tariq Wollin, I know you knew he's a free agent. Josh Joe. Correct. And Kobe Bryant. Correct.
Starting point is 00:47:43 So, now they have all the money to keep whoever they want, but they're not going to keep all of them. They can upgrade. Colton Hood's probably better than three-qualled. Wow. Wow. Wow. Seattle repeat. Easy.
Starting point is 00:47:59 They got to be, they have to be the obvious favorites. They're tied as the favorites with... Kansas City, of course. No, the Rams. No, I'm just, I'm kidding. Obviously, it's not going to be Kansas City. but it would have been fun. I mean, it's not bad money in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:48:12 They're like seventh or eighth. Could get in on that. Could get in on it. Buy the dip on Patrick Mahomes. Okay. By the dip. Yeah, our next episode is just going to be how Patrick Mahomes is the Bitcoin of the NFL and how you should go about investing.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Okay, so we had Denzo, Boston going to the Steelers at 21. We had Vega Juanae to the Chargers at 22. Caleb Lomu to the Eagles at number 23, Casey Concepcion, to the Cleveland Browns at 24. Akeem Messador to the Bears, 25. I already talked about how much I like that one. C.J. Allen, go to the bills at 26. Emmanuel McNeill Warren.
Starting point is 00:48:46 We did get in the first round, but he went number 27 to the Niners. Monroe Freeling, Georgia offensive tackle to the Texans. Avian Torell, the corner from Clemson to the Rams. Kenyon Sadeek, tightened in from Oregon to the Broncos, Keldrick Falk, which everyone hated at 31 to the Patriots. And then Colton Hood, like we said, at 32, to this yawks. So what did DJ have, 21 through 32? Hey, three matches.
Starting point is 00:49:11 All right. So we've got three matches here. We got Denzel Boston, the Steelers, C.J. Allen to the Bills, and then Monroe Freeling to the Texans. Obviously, like all of them. I know it goes without saying because we did the mock, but I do like all of these. Is there one of these three that we agreed on with him that you like the most here? Yes, C.J. Allen of the Bills is dynamite. so much so that the bears should take him before he gets there.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Okay. The bears should take him before he gets there. Yeah. So I really like that. We need to update our offensive line rankings. I am very curious where I end up at with both Monroe Freeling and Blake Miller. Because we have not talked in depth about those guys lately. I'm about halfway through full e-vails on the offensive.
Starting point is 00:50:08 line as a whole. I started with tackles, though. Blake Miller is going to be a fringe first round offensive. You've liked him for a couple of years. I've liked him for three years, man. And I felt like I felt like a crazy person talking about him. And everybody, I haven't heard of peep. I haven't heard a peep about Blake Miller. Two years ago, I was like, hey, this guy could be something. And then nobody said anything about him, went back to Clemson. It's like, all right, well, you obviously didn't get a lot of draft type, went back to Clemson. Last year, I thought he was okay again. And I was like, yeah, but I think this guy's got NFL potential.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I think he could be even better. If he continues to get stronger. And when I watched him three years ago, strength was a big issue for him. Remember talking about him. Yeah, he needed to get a lot stronger. And he's still not the strongest offensive tackle. But he's got long arms. He's built like a tackle.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Super patient playing style. I love the balance. I love just like how you can tell he's in control at all times. he's got a really high football IQ, I think, of just how he prepares for rushers and neutralizes rushers. He's gotten stronger. He's put on more weight. I genuinely think he is a back end of the first round caliber offensive tackle. I like Blake Miller a good bit. I really do. Yeah, if his eval comes in as high for me, or maybe it just doesn't matter. Like if this is the view of him, he kind of changes the dynamic of the offensive line class because when we get to this
Starting point is 00:51:34 point of the draft, as you see with the Browns, And you could argue this with the Chargers at 22, more for guard. And you have the Texans there. And the Patriots at 31, which was a, I had that pick in mind as well, Caleb Lomu. Like, there's a lot of needs for offensive line in the, in the back third of this mock draft. But usually you get there and you're like, okay, Spencer Fano is gone. Mowingo is gone. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Vega Oana is gone. Mm-hmm. Like, it starts to thin out real quick. if there's more depth in this group than we initially expected because of Blake Miller getting stronger, because of Monroe Freeling, there being enough there to buy into him after starting this year, it'll change the dynamics of mock draft. So you'll see a lot of offensive linemen as a whole on the top 32. So we didn't get Lee Hunter or Dylan Thieneman in our last mock draft that we did. Lee Hunter is getting a lot of, I think people are looking to put him in the back end of first
Starting point is 00:52:37 rounds. It feels like he's trending up in that regard. He's kind of my Keldrick Falk, where when I see him this early, I'm like, but then on day two, I love him. Yeah. It's weird. It's very weird how that happens to you. Again, everybody starts to go a little too far. Yeah, pick 32's a reach, but to the Jets at 33, I mean, he's the steel of the draft. So, DJ did not have Caden McDonald's in the first round of his mock draft. Is that right? No, no, he did not. That's pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I felt like Caden MacDonald was trending to the point of like, hey, he might sneak into the top 15-ish. And then it's like, I, Kayne McDonald, nice top 20 pick. To not see him in the first round here is surprising to me. Me too. I do like, I do like Cade McDonald. I think he's a better prospect than who the Lions took last year in the 20s. Wait, though. Did we have him?
Starting point is 00:53:32 Did we have Cade McDonald and ours? I don't think we did. Oh, because this was our two-rounder. the Jets at 33. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I agree. It was when he got to 33.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Well, the chat said it was rigged. Right. That's yes, yes, yes, yes. So the chat also then would have believed that he wouldn't be here. Right. But Ty Leak Williams is who I'm like, Cade McDonald's probably better than Thai Leak. I agree.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And Ty Leak went in the end of the first round. So a lot of time to change. But is there anything here where you're like, I don't know about that one? I don't know, Jeff. The only one that really stands out to me is Peter Woods lasting all the way to 30. I just think that we're being, if he gets to 30,
Starting point is 00:54:22 now we haven't done interior defensive tackles. Maybe I'll feel different after we do the full evils of interior defense tackles. But even from what I watched of him in the middle of the season, it's not like the talent wasn't still there. I think if he lasts till the end of the first round in mock drafts, it's being a little overly harsh on what was a down year for Clemson just overall, like everybody.
Starting point is 00:54:46 And I also sit here and think about how people looked at T.J. Parker's year, and they were like, all right, second rounder. And maybe he is a second rounder. But like, when we saw him in the Senior Bowl, looked like one of the better players there, but it looked like one of the best players there. I think that he had such a great week in Mobile that almost by proxy,
Starting point is 00:55:13 I'm almost like, okay, so then Peter Woods is also then good. Like I just feel as though the whole year by Clemson was just a down year from everybody. Yeah, it does feel like maybe teams will be comfortable leaning on the 24 tape for Aviontorel, Peter Woods, T.J. Parker.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Not Cade Clubnik, sorry, but that one, they're not going to be comfortable. No, they're not. No, they are not. But the defensive guys, for sure. Yeah, that's sort of, that's a little bit of a surprise with him last 30. I think for the Broncos, it could potentially make sense,
Starting point is 00:55:49 depending on if they want to switch some things up on their interior defensive line with free agency and who they bring back and how they prioritize that. that. Dylan Thienem and getting in the first round, I'm not super shocked by. I think he's a hell of a football player.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I think late first is, I feel like the chances are low for late first, but like, man, I think he's a surefire second round pick type of a playmaker on the back end. So I'm not totally shocked that we're talking about him in the first round there. And this continues the trend. Ken and Sadiq kind of just ping pongs around the Eagles, Niners, and Broncos.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah, basically. It's like you got to have a need, you got to know how to use them. But wow, you got one of the freakyest tight end prospects we've seen in a while. I love Denzel Boston of the Steelers. We obviously agreed on that with DJ, but I think that that's a great combination there. I don't think there's any redundancy at all with like, oh, him and Metcalf, they're both big. Like that doesn't matter to me. I think that both of those guys could play really well in my company system.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah, he's more versatile than Metcalf. I agree. Yeah. Like you watch the Washington. offense and they sneak them at like an hback in motion and the slot and out wide and try to get the ball in his hands on kind of like shallow plays to just let him run he's he's definitely more versatile than metcab obviously metcalf is just physically as gifted as you'll ever see yeah and then the last thing that i'll point out is just with freeling going to the texans at 28 um do you have a feeling
Starting point is 00:57:21 one way or the other with the texans where you you would say i would much rather get a guy who i know is going to be a guard, because Freeling's not a guard. Like, if you're drafting Freeling, he's going to play tackle. So you're in a spot where he's going to play right, or maybe he'll play left, an area on terrestrial, he'll play right. But those two guys are going to play right and left tackle for you. Who am I thinking of? Tice Howard is going to play, is going to play guard for them.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And then I think they need another starting center and a starting guard. I think so, too. Because they're going to stick with ursery at tackle. Right. You can play Titus Howard at tackle. Right. Which is sort of, it's sort of what I'm asking is like, do you like the idea of prioritizing tackle there for the, for the Texas? I didn't in mine.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I had them take a manual pregnon from Oregon. Okay. Because and Freeling was available. It's one of those situations where I just felt with the offensive line. I went with the offensive line. I was most comfortable with. And with Pregnon, he's a four-year starter across three different programs.
Starting point is 00:58:32 He was so much better at Oregon this year than his previous stops. So he's getting better. His zone blocking is so impressive. So I went with just the thought process of like, we just need to get as better as possible across the offensive line. But if the thought is Freeling can be a starting tackle
Starting point is 00:58:52 for you in the long term, then teams will always gravitate towards the tackle if they have needs at guard and tackle. So somebody was saying that, hey, the Texans kind of want to be a little bit more of a power running team, which I also saw them trend towards more towards the last month and a half of the season. They started to run a lot more of those man and gap scheme run blocking concepts. And Woody Marks was running really well.
Starting point is 00:59:12 I think Monroe is a little bit better in those zone blocking schemes. I think his athleticism is shining a little bit more when he can get out into space. And I do think that he needs to get stronger just overall. to be consistent at the NFL level. So I think the scheme fit conversation is an interesting one with Freeling, who again, I think is a little bit more finesse than he is just a bully up front. I wonder if maybe they would gravitate more towards like a Maxionature, right? If he is on the board here at 28, which I think that he would be in this conversation
Starting point is 00:59:49 because he is a, he's just a bigger dude. He's just a bigger offensive tackle. And I think that he is better as his zone blocker as well, but he's just got more mass on him. And you might prioritize that over. Yeah, yeah. I think the Texans revolving debate around which offensive linemen they take will be a constant conversation. Oh, somebody was mentioning that Chargers resigned to your tart.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Would that change for round one? I think it would. And I think there was an editor's note on DJ's mock where he said that he had the Lee Hunter pick, I think just a couple of days before they were signed Tierra Tart. So that pick is probably different there for them. They probably go offensive line at that point. You know, maybe it's in Emmanuel Pregnan. Maybe you're drafting Caden Proctor to play guard for you.
Starting point is 01:00:35 But yeah, I think that you're probably switching the priority there to interior offensive line. All right. There we go. There it is. Daniel Jeremiah's mock 1.0 against the latest combined NFLSC mock. Shout out to DJ. Just. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:51 one of the good guys in the business man somebody that we've been reading his work for years and years i know that that anybody out there who's an addict who follows the draft has been doing the same shout it to him go support all of his work follow him all the face of the draft man he is man go follow all of his stuff on social media uh give him your support go read the full mock draft over at nfl dot com we love dj and uh hey maybe we'll have him uh on the show maybe we'll try to get him on the show for the co-lab mock draft series here in a couple of months. That would be, that would be a really good thing to do that would be like a big dog moment for us. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I know. Like we're pushing away if we, if we get the Jeremiah, Kyper, McShay. You got to send him an accrucible. That's how we got to get him on the show. You think that that'll do it. That might do it. You know, it might do it. This is quite the gift.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I owe these guys now. Hey, DJ, I'll send you one box of uncrustables and you give us an hour and a half of your time. It's a trade man. During your busiest time of the year. Where you never get to see the light of day. Appreciate everybody for watching this one live. Again, we will read all the super chats here in a second of the after the episode portion of the show.
Starting point is 01:02:06 If you guys want to follow us on social media, you can follow the show at NFLSC show on all the regular platforms. You can follow him at Connor J. Rogers, myself at Tampa Bay Trey. I mentioned this early in the show, but we would love for you guys to get in the NFL of C. Discord. We've almost got over 3,500 people in the Discord talking about everything, whether it's the NFL or team building. There's specific team channels as well. So maybe you're not a fan of the entire draft, but you are a fan of the draft for your team. There's fans of
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Starting point is 01:03:16 kidding. That's not the case. I'm going to wait a week though. Wait for my I'm going to wait to get back from my PTO and then I will have them go live. You guys can buy them. We bought a lot of them this time. So I hope, again, I say this all the time. Hopefully they don't sell out immediately because I want you guys to get as many as possible. But also as a business, we hope that they sell out immediately. So maybe it would be a little bit of a win-win.
Starting point is 01:03:36 But can't wait for you guys to see those. We appreciate all the support that you guys have given in the merch that we've had already. So I will make sure that I let you know when the hats drop. Connor, anything else before we get out of here. No, man. Like you said, we got some stuff cooking up behind the scenes, but we will be on like a mini, not hiatus, just a little. I think we missed like one episode.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Maybe one episode and then we make up for it because we'll leave our families for the combine. Joe just said is Trevor the Drake May of hat providers? Wow, it's in like in the biggest moment you fell apart. I don't think so. You'd have my MVP vote. for hat providers. You guys are towing the line.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah, they really... You guys are to... Bork in the chat said, Are the hats going on vacation with you? Maybe they are! You just bring your luggage of hats everywhere. Just four giant boxes of hats. That would be so great.
Starting point is 01:04:39 They put it on the scale at the airport, and they're like, serious. This giant suitcase weighs four pounds. What is in there? It's going to weigh 400 pounds because we've got that many hats. Okay. That's true. After the episode, portion of the show starts in a couple of seconds.
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